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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>Current Cup
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Summer_Cup

>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Gens%C5%8D_Cup_2
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9:_Faggots_at_the_Bar

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru/

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017

>Round of 16
/b/ - /cm/
/his/ - /pol/
/biz/ - /wsg/
/pw/ - /r9k/
/fit/ - /tg/
/vt/ - /vm/
/sp/ - /tv/
/trv/ - /v/

>Previously
Shitposting
PES 21 losing BIGLY again, confirmed worse than 16
Making your poll public and results visible like a retard
Konata to replace Git Gud on /vg/ for Autumn
source? I made it up
/co/ is absolutely dimeless, who is to blame?
/c/ demoted Yui, no longer fuwa fuwa time

First for /qa/

I love my zoer wife so much.

JollyMA on his way to collect that 50 euro gift card PERSONALLY

SYOU, THE WYRESTLING CYARD

>>534345183
Blame Hololive then, the team logo is based off of the unit logo.

We NEED patches for every PES

>>534345461
Down patch PES16 to 1.03 to remove the goal fest.

>>534345413
>>534343983

>>534345710
I don't get it.

>>534345386
Syou died on the way byack to his hyome plyanet.

>>534345858
I can't believe sou got abducted by glorpshits

>>534345813
>>534343983
same reason why /vg/ have the GitGud hat in their crest.
Speaking of it, better change it with Konata's hair now buddy.

>>534346334
I don't get it.

cloud

>>534346618
>called /4ccg/ short

>>534346334
git gud got that hat because of the logo, the logo came first.
The hat was added when the green generals kit was made for the team, it came with the model.
So, if anything, we should give konata the hat next.

>>534343983
>>534343762
The funny part is it's a stock template from a logo making site online that I used once 10 years ago for logos for something in high school.

>>534348723
proof?

total git gud death

>>534346618
>retarded fags better longball

>>534346334
>>534347480
i would love a konata rep
heavy : cunny, is nice

>>534348723
>stock template
don't look at /v/

>>534346618
>best years botted lmao

>>534346618
>/zzz/bro suck

>>534349956
21 rape victims even botted the best years of the cup artificially, holy shit is there nothing they won't stop at?!!!

This cloud is out of control

>>534346618
>raped since zoer post

>>534349401
I don't have a 10 year old PC anymore but you'll find it on some google football logo maker if you give more of a shit than I do.

>>534352780
This party's getting crazy!

sex with horsegirls

>>534354872
I'll give more of a shit all right! *unzips ass* *plops out git gud*

The new PSG has been pretty good, ngl

>>534356681
39th place is pretty good to you?

>>534356884
the anime I mean!

>>534356681
yeah they just won the champions league

I know we aren't overwriting real teams but can /s4s/ get Messi's spot to give to Bateman again?

fill in the blanks:
>when I'm in a worst _______ export competition and my opponent is /___/
attach an image as well, if you want

>>534358945
aesthetics
u

>>534354872
So you have zero proof.
Got it

>>534358945
music
vt

>>534360656
What if Gogeta was trapped and betrayed in a /vt/ goalhorn?

>>534360991
that horn is honestly the least offending part of their export

>>534358945
democracy
4ccg

>>534349850
What is the saddest/lazy 4cc crest?

Card for tonight in about three hours:
Rigglemania Night 1: RO16 Predict-a-card

Taft vs Alex Jones
Chinese Tour Group vs Senator Armstrong
Ogey Rrat & Nenechi vs Phoon & Amogus
Pajeet vs LTG Smell in a Cell match
Main Event - Messi, Ronaldo, and Joao Neves vs For You, Sheev, and Darth Jar Jar Elimination Match. (Sponsored by Taco Bell)

>>534358945
commissioner
tma

>>534363984
decide the next PES vgl uses by elimination match because vgl '''democracy''' is clearly a sham

>>534363984
Sou, when are you gonna do a /cm/ phil vs >H>R>E match?

>>534364168
Get VGLCW on it.

>>534364243
When I remake >H>R>E in '23. A lot of CAW slots are still being eaten by some of the VGLCW cast I haven't sent back to their territory yet. Soon™

>this jabroni is still using 23
KWAB

>>534364534
I think we need to get you a second PC just for a second full set of wrasslers

>>534364630
Which one is the PES 21 of wwe games?

>>534364630
Fuck you nigga I ain't remaking the whole roster again.

>>534364751
good question
2k20 is generally considered the most fun to watch

>>534364775
You don't have a choice, Weedman.
Do it, or your peepee will be slapped by the Bailiff!

>>534364775
But we NEED the island!

>>534364775
>This mexican jabroni is being a lazy nigga
BOOT TO THE HEAD

>>534365145
NO BOBBO, NO MOVE

>>534365402
THE ISLAND IS ONLY ON THE CONSOLE VERSION

>>534364854
but we're looking for the opposite of that

>>534363569
Among active teams? /f/, /int/, /pol/, /sci/, /v/, /v/alkans, /xs/
Ded teams? /gif/, /ic/, /s/, /soc/, /w/
Might've been too harsh on some but personal votes are /int/ for active and /s/ historically

>>534366090
>/f/
are you dumb?

>>534367047
They play tomorrow

>>534367047
Can you read? He didn't ask for least fitting logos he asked for laziest. They literally just used the flash logo.

Officially speaking /f/ is active until they don't sign up for Autumn. Even if everyone knows they can't and won't.

>>534365804
unironically?
fucking 2k23 LMAO

>>534365531
I WANT THE FUCKING APPLE AND THE HANDEGG

>>534360578
Yeah I'm not trying to prove anything I just think it's funny from personal experience.

>>534364854
2k20 is like pes16, it's broken and chaotic but fun

>>534346618
>poll votes autism

>>534368076
At least they brought magic back in 24.

Can someone upload the pes15 next gen editor? As I mentioned in the last thread, the link on the wiki is broken.

>>534369356
https://files.catbox.moe/1hp2u2.7z

21kwabs need to just stop it and stop coping. Accept the L or there will be consequences. You aren’t doing shit with 21 if the torrent link gets taken down and all the DLC on 21 gets copyright striked. You’ve been warned, give up and stop being coping raped bitches

>>534370274
You sound pretty raped yourself complaining about 21SCHOLARS in these halls.

>>534369945
Thanks Liz

>>534370415
idgaf 21 SEAniggers are getting their shit copyright flagged if they don’t stop trying to bot the poll and coping in here

>>534363984
and night 2 before/after garbage has cmphil trolled2death, hogan vs tfwno gf and arnold vs tg then?

>>534370274
>>534370689
Who raped you?

>>534370274
You should be grateful that JollyMA is waiting 6 months to completely BTFO your ass

>>534373541
>muh vtl
cry more 21kwab, you cant do shit outside your dying league you can not and false flag all you like but you can’t stop vgl staying in 17 so eat shit tma and cipher your not getting 21

>>534370274
kekypoooooo

>>534376170
ESLKing....

Kissing my wife Kiyose-dan

>>534371109
Mostly right except /r9k/ have Wagecuck as their rep.

>>534373541
see who your averaeg 21shitree is and why they want pes 21? vgl is above shitters like taba and tma who want 21 again so badly because theyre shit on any other pes, have you are cope league on 21, vgl is better and keeping 17 and theres nothing you can do about it

>>534378486
trip on alex

>>534378486
ESLking...

>>534378486
eslGAWD

Why are /u/ trying to get the cup back on 19? Are they testing 15 this early just to try and shill that it's broken and get 19 again? I don't get it

>>534378486
21 was fun though
its big problem wasnt tactics but the hyberloob like that amebee clip

>>534379371
>only happened during WEED and Garbage Day
We need to run all cups on 21 until it affects the result of a real match.

>>534379371
this is strategic dealying

>>534379371
This is probably triggered by something and the tactical autist that figures it has the perfect bus parking strategy. 21 is a fun game, you're just being anti-fun voting for 17.

>>534379940
fuck off 21kwab have your neoplumber shit in a invitational no one cares about, im going to make another five accounts vote 17 on a new sim card and you cant stop me

>>534378486
Don't forget Reso and BoB.

>>534370274
>>534380239
anyone notice that /akg/ won a star on 21 but has been yo-yoing ever since? makes one wonder

>>534380239
>>534380321
Push 21 even further down and KWABoB and KWABeso will probably ragequit, not having another /akg/ star again

>>534380239
the real trvke is BoB and Reso are neo-plumbers

>>534378486
My lord, you are correct.

>>534380717
BoB is the neo-pumber, Reso is just a regular plumber.

>>534378486
JollyMA got you shakin in your boots ESLKing

>21 shills are VTLbabs
Yet another reason to keep it out of the rotation for good.

>>534378486
My ESLiege... I kneel...

>>534379371
hyperloop stuff is a patch thing.
If you use stock PES21, that shouldn't happen

>>534380717
can someone explain the "plumber" term to me beyond the obvious definition? When someone uses it, I have no idea what they're talking about

>>534381162
whatever you say horsefucker

>>534379371
21 was dogshit. Useless refs, braindead strikers, and the passing was wet ass

>>534381232
In early NBA, it didn't actually pay jackshit so it was more of a hobby than actual job, lots of players were trade workers (like a plumber). Therefore, because it wasn't serious and nobody was actually good, any achievements from back then don't actually matter. It's plumber era. People are saying early divegrass wasn't nearly as skillful.

>>534381386
2 of those things are fixable without patches

>>534381493
kekypow

>>534381538
kekaroo

>>534380239
They both want 16

WRASSLING SOON

>>534381493
how?

>>534381724
Stats Autism.

>Plumber era
>Neo Plumber era
>Micky Maüs Wünderhaus era
Predict the new era of divegrass.

>>534381984
Post Plumber Era

Keep in mind that TMA and his associates are bad actors, so it's fairly straightforward to simply do the opposite of what they want

>>534382178
Sure thing horsefucker

AW FUCK I MISSED THE WRASSLIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>534382178
t.TMA

>>534382763
huh?

>>534381162
>horsefuckers trying to cheat another poll for their precious prefox

>>534382582
it just started nigger
get in cytube

>>534382178
weakest false flag ever

>>534382827
I know it's you, stop talking about yourself TMA, just can't help yourself can you?

>>534381984
Judging from this current elite probably the Everyone Sucks era

Summer 11 - Winter 18: Plumber Era
Summer 18 - Summer 22: Neo-Plumber Era
Winter 23 - Winter 25: Mickey Mouse Wonderhouse Era
Summer 25 onwards: Current Era

>>534383052
>no bro you dont get it yeah my team lost 3 games but theyre good team they won a star before so theyre good team, and the team that won 3 games is bad team, and just got lucky 3 times in a row, cause theyre bad team, cause i say so source:it came to me in a dream

GARBAGE BIN CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING: RIGGLEMANIA 2025 (Night 1 of 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPn0vmGPp28

>>534383648
what?

>>534383813
if a team got into the elite ro16 they must be doing something right. Sure /cm/ is shit but this constant "oh mlp u and co arent in elite ro16 so everyone in r016 must have just got lucky and are all shit" shit, fuck off

>>534383051
Take your meds horsefucker

>>534384104
/mlp/ was unlucky and good, /co/ was unlucky in that they drew a group full of the one thing that beat them in spring after not needing to deal with it at all in their bracket, /u/ was shit and deserved to die

Make a horsefucker cry RIGHT NOW put 17 in last place - https://rankpoll.me/RmeCSswjgn0

>>534381776
They tried stat nerfs with PES 2018 and it was still bad. And 18's gameplay mogs 21's. 21babs just need to admit they support a broken-ass game

>>534384104
if I say "everyone sucks" that does not mean "the teams who lost are unlucky" that means "the teams who lost suck even more". what is this complex you have dude? who the fuck even cares about /co/?
i have been watching summer and it just feels like a lower skill tier than previous elites i've seen. it feels like a babby. maybe that turns around in knockouts! wouldn't be the first time!

so all this PES talk is just the new console wars

I'm starting to think the poll spam has been a battle between horsefuckers and a couple schizos that heard/saw their activation phrase and can't stop which has then lead to this endless time loop about "muh pes version good, ur pes version BYAD"

the only asshurt schizos are the 17 defenders coming out the woodwork the second their precious plumber wankfest is threatened

>>534385020
No it’s coping and seething 21kwabs because they coped for weeks about ranked voting and lost again

If 21 happens anyway I’m just not doing poi until it’s gone, VGLco won’t get the message until teams start refusing to take part and stay on a pes THAT ALREADY WON TWICE

>>534385478
>If 21 happens anyway I’m just not doing poi until it’s gone,
wtf now I'm voting for 21

>>534384713
You have to buff and nerf stats.
Just nerfing isn't enough to fix shit.

>>534385478
KWABoTY contender if true

>>534386006
No, this all happened because some guy decided to do his own poll which people didn't like the results of, so then other people started doing their own which caused schizos to then join in which finally resulted with where we are now. With constant pes and poll shitflinging and accusing people of being from /mlp/, /vt/, etc.

>>534386262
Denko should cancel this poll then and run it again with the results hidden until published and then it wouldn't happen again

and /vm/ takes another KWAB to vtGODS

SUPER NENENENENENENENENENENENENE

>>534386396
Or just ask managers in private like he has done before. Or just use 17 next VGL and switch to 21 after. That's what the impression I got from final ASS at least.

>>534386262
That first poll was probably someone in VGLco testing it before doing the actual poll, and whoever they are fucked up not making it private so the schizos shitting themselves over 21 can keep bombing 21’s votes everything time it goes ahead of 17, they’ve done it every single time and it’s so obvious now it’s rigged and that’s VGLco at fault for not making it private, unless VGLco are the ones rigging the vote

>>534386759
Most people don't want 17 though, look at the combined first and second choice votes, 17 loses massively to 21 and 16. VGLco should run 25 on 16 because it'd be easier then go to 21 after that.

>>534385478
No one will miss you or your team. KWAB

Anti-21 schizos aren’t even voting for 17 either, they’re just tactically voting to tank 21 so it can’t move up even if it has as many first votes as 17

>>534384659
Votef 17 first is that alright

also if anyone wanted 16 or 19, it has so few last place votes it can easily beat 17 and 21 now ;^) 17 and anti-21 schizos have spent two whole days playing themselves so the algorithmn is now fucekd and the lightest push for 16 or 19 will nuke 17 now 21 can't win

Pretty sure last time there was a private vote managers voted to stay on 19, but got 19 with a dogshit formation ban instead.

>>534387360
Denko will do it again with 17, best reason to vote for 16, 19 or 21. He ignored managers once he'll do it again

>>534387475
>best reason to vote for
>16
no
>19
yes
>21
no

>use ranked voting
>NO NOT LIKE THAT

for me it’s unpatched 19 and that can easily win now so few people voted against it

>>534387643
>t. 17bab that just realised they got out fucking skilled wasting all their votes on tanking 21 not 19 or 16

>>534387716
As long as it isn't 21 kek

>>534387653
trvke
even asshurt anti-21fags can't now magic 30 6th prefrence votes against 19 out of thin air, they've used their burner accounts up bombing 21 LMAO

STOP THE COUNT!

19 is better than 21.

>>534387827
kekypow! this so much this!
t. anti-21 aryan

The people with the strongest opinions for or against a PES version are all the people who shouldn't have a say in anything. Curious!

>>534387972
Yeah 21 SEA fags shouldn't even be allowed on the internet

17 won
twice

>>534385020
Now that snoy and microsoft are both going third party, kids need a new way to entertain themselves.

>>534387915
OHNONONO 17keks on suicide watch

anti-21 shitters in full panic stations now 17 is dumping hard

I am playing the game
The one that will take me to my end
I am waiting for the rain
To wash who I am
I am playing the game

the chart that keeps 17keks up at night and scrambling for more votes

it's just one guy making all these spam posts about the poll, right?

>>534388735
17 getting raped live on the ‘ccg

>>534388830
no, 17fags are live in full damage control mode pumping the vote now it looks set they're going to lose it to 19

>>534388873
maybe on planet retard

>>534389031
why did 10 votes just appear out of nowhere in the last 15 minutes then? 17keks are in full panic mode cause it slipped behind 19 for a minute

Verdict: Clear winner
Strong consensus
PES17 is the Condorcet winner, preferred over every other option in one-on-one comparisons.

>>534389305
NOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT AAAHHH I WILL GO TO SUICIDE VILLAGE NOW. BYEE

>>534389305
lolno, 17 is like two votes away from losing to 19 bigly

17CHADs be like
>I like 17 and the gameplay. I might vote for it to support it.
21keks be like
>I fucking love 21 and bugs so much! I'm gonna chop my penis off and pretend to be a woman until my axe wound gets infected and I die! Get dunked on horsefucker!!!

>>534389441
two more weeks

>>534389471
KEKYPOW

All this fighting over PES versions when each one will be used again eventually

>>534389471
21 rape victims be like
>my team is doing shit in 17 and I don’t even like 17 but I’m going to downvoooote 21 because I got raped so hard in the autumn of ‘22
21GODS be like
>I like good aesthetics, I want to use the most recent viable PES, new tech might be available now, I’m bored of plumber prefox wank, but they’re so asshurt and raped they can’t stop trying to rig the vote

>>534389752
You weren't supposed to point that OUT THOUGH.

>>534389752
No they won't, 17 is fucking trash and will never be used again after Summer is over

>>534389896
One more VGL after it won overwhelmingly

>>534389850
>wanting aes wank so you vote for the spin in a circle for 30 minutes version
hilarious

>>534390004
>won bigly by *checks notes* 3 votes
KEKYPOW

>>534389850
>I like good aesthetics
even though everything you can do on 21 you can do on 18 and 19, just without the countless bugs getting in the way

17keks are going to get raped by 19 and a bunch of vote stuffing /u/ testers so he’s it’s not even funny

>>534390159
Exactly why you should vote for unpatched 19 now the 17keks have shit themselves hard enough 17 is clear second most voted against PES

what is it about "kek" that attracts severe schizophrenics to start spamming it when they're having a meltdown? every general I'm in, when a schizo is freaking out, they start saying "kek"
is it just learned behavior?

the numbers that will rape 17 in the sweltering summer of '25

>>534389752
Pretty sure all this shit flinging about pes versions come from the same like, 4 schizos while everyone else is either watching or doing something else because they realize they should just let them tire themselves out until the next dangling keys topic for them to autistically screech and drag out for longer than necessary comes by.

>>534390432
looks like people REALLY don't like that shitty stinky dogshit cattle pes 21!

>>534390506
It came from people so raped by 21 they rigged a vote to try and stop it

>>534390257
no thanks, I will be voting for 18

>>534390645
You are only proving my point, Schizo-kun.

>>534390645
rigged (voted a way I dislike)

>>534390506
Or it's horsefuckers brigading yet another poll
>do it in Autumn for logo poll
>do *pic related* to the Summer logo poll
>suuuurely they wouldn't do it again because someone said PES 21 out loud?

>>534390828
wait wtf, A was the horsefucker shitpost logo wasn’t it?

>>534390670
>I want the biggest loser in the poll in every single system
K W A B

>>534389752
And, you've had two whole seasons of 4CC on 17, you've had two whole seasons of 17 on VGL. 17 can fuck off now already, something else in VGL 25

>>534391023
but I don't want 21?

>>534391405
vote for 19 then

>>534391543
no thanks, I will be voting for 18

>>534391314
But I like 17 and would like to see another VGL on it, so I voted for it.

>>534391645
enjoy never getting what you voted for then

>>534390828
Where did you even get this image from? this is something only Potato would have, but he wouldn't give a fuck about what pes vgl is running. So you must be some comfynigger that snagged that pic from the comfycord where Potato shared the image in.

>>534391886
Don't people deserve to know the truth about how hard the horsefuckers rigged the last logo poll?

>>534390828
>>534391886
>someone on the inside exposing their knowledge
Oh nonononono

>>534391886
This should have been public knowledge and the vote should have been voided because they were trying to make A the logo with over 150 votes, exact same is happening to the vgl poll

I wonder what would happen if you run the Autumn logo poll during the Autumn Fetus.

Probably nothing because there's no horsefuckery involved.

the absolute state of 17keks

>>534390828
this smells like zilyana's post

>>534398626
It's typed like how he talks but he types very poorly so it can't be him

Rig Deez

>>534398626
its not, they know who it is but they cant give proof because it means outing themselves as a /vg/ mod or janny, someone who wants to protect or control the narrative the vgl and very possibly a member of vglco is one but if they show proof it means they get sacked as a mod/janny or ran out of town like amph was cause jannies arent welcome in any part of the cup, even on vglco

checkmate faggot

>>534401917
why would vglco have a 4cc logo poll

>>534401917
what the fuck is it about version polls that causes genuinely mentally unwell people that need to seek treatment to start posting?

>>534402529
What else do you expect from people who got mentally raped by PES 21

will 21schizo remain after this or will he go back to his zoer wife when 17chads win?

i like both 17 and 21

>>534402980
i honestly prefer the consolewarring schizo posts over over the zoerposting

>>534402980
The funniest thing is no one will even care that much when 17 gets raped by 19chads. 21 will make people actually ragequit the vgl and probably kill a team or two

anyone that wants change for 25 now only needs to put in 5 votes for 19 and 17keks will need 10 votes to retake its lead now 17 has been bombed hard, 17 is closer than you think to getting raped by how many last place votes it has, 17keks will need numbers that make it look absurd or will unironically be them paying money to jeets to brigade it to recover a lead

>>534404250
>outright pleading to rig the poll
That desperate

>>534404362
i can smell fear 17kek, you over committed to stopping 21 and did nothing about 19

>>534403348
Nobody will quit over PES versions.

>>534386396
>then it wouldn't happen again
Delusional.

>>534342132
I would've been down. 4 medal /vrg/ with HA. Guaranteed top 4 finish

>>534390927
Yeah, looks like more than half of the horsefuckers put it as their first choice.
So much for "we wanted to vote for the shitpost choice but didn't!". It looks like the non-shitpost logo only won because the horsefuckers who put it as first choice also put the shitpost one among their last choices.

Death to Git Gud

^ anon who is unable to git gud

>>534422519
Let's dismantle it quickly

GO TO THE HELL MOTHERFUCKER GID GUD AND /VG/

>>534423665
Gid Gud and Git Rud in shambles after being denounced by the original ESL Emperor

>Challonge generates the bracket
>/c/ vs /k/ salty runback rolled

Do I leave it as is /4ccg/?
https://challonge.com/InsertWittyURLHere

git gud haters are the kind of people who start crying when they can't win in a video game by paying more money but can only win by actually being goid

>>534425015
>/d/ /sci/ runback too

>>534425015
what are you cooking

>>534425015
Of course. You shall not prevent destiny from happening.

Nobody likes Git Gud though

>>534425108
lel I didn't spot that

>>534425171
Memes

>>534425343
In that case unless there's any objections I'm locking the bracket at the top of the hour so people can get their bracket predictions in.

>>>/sp/150126280
>version wars even on /sp/

F

Searching for Scylla

>>534425015
If they still have the fuck /admin/ kits, please use them for /lit/

saar, do the needful and upload to the booru

>>534427348
i do wish theyd bring back the master league
i didnt give a shit about football when i was younger but still got like 1000 hours into like pes 6 up to 2012 as second hand, playing them like rpgs bringing some 3rd world shitter club to winning the premiership and leveling your players.
Playing pes like that made it fun.
If now with the fifa licence they bring back master league i might unironically buy pes

>>534436813
No.

imouto breastfeeding handjob!

What's the cup equivalent?

Redesign your logo.

>>534440093
/u/

Is it possible to port the aesthetics system to 13?

>>534440093
final moments before 21

Making good money doesn't seem to make me any happier. I still don't have a star or gf.

>>534440969
B > C >D > A

Can any vtlbab explain the purpose of "GarbageFes"? It's like TMA went "I want something like Garbage Day but I have no fucking clue what Garbage Day is about". He doesn't even run that forced memevitational according to Golden Spoon rules.

GD is simply "here are the teams that were shit this cup, so let's see which team is the most shit"

>>534441954
free yourself of desire

>>534425015
Yes, keep it along with the /d/-/sci/ rematch

>>534440969
sailing sucks dick so D

>>534441954
making money doesn't make you happy, spending it does

>>534345024 (OP)
Hey wtf that's my exact birthday.

>>534442669
https://youtu.be/Msxsu448JmE?t=12

Weak men chase pleasure.
Strong men chase pain.

>>534442669
Is that your exact height as well?

>>534442058
TMA wants to run 4chan cup but he's KWABOTC material, so he made his own cup with booze and hookers.

He's more pathetic than Nomo, which is funny.

Should I drink beer or wine for Garbage Day?

>tipping results
Wiki: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Summer_Cup_Tipping_Competition#Tips

>>534445348
piss

>>534444370
/vt/ choking that 3-0 lead to /out/ in Summer 22 and getting relegated under TMA's management seriously broke him

RIP Grass Wonder

>>534446830
Reddit in Peace

>>534446948
/zzz/bro btw

>>534446830
Reddit in Pieces

>>534447063
zzz is 9gag
I play the 4chan gacha (fgo)

>>534442058
>Can any vtlbab explain the purpose of "GarbageFes"?
It's just a fun invitational run for the teams that were eliminated at high gamespeed and half length halfs. It's meant to be a fun thing. It's not meant to degrade the eliminated teams.

Picture with Korean

>>534445475
IPA it is then

>>534447637
>It's not meant to degrade the eliminated teams
Nobody's degrading the shit teams, you clueless zoomer. Teams used to submit literally-throwing exports for garbage day to try and win the golden spoon. That got so prevalent that Sou changed the rules and started using the teams' Day 3 nightlies instead

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Golden_Spoon_Cup
First golden spoon cup was in 2017. /h/ were very poor in Summer so submitted their summer tactics and scored 20 odd goals.

new stack just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwh1QFpQrLA

>>534449337
Trying to find who the worst is is degrading to the teams. You already have the spoon for that, you don't need to make it a spectacle.

>>534450691
twying to find out who the wowst is degwading to the teams :(

>>534450658
I FUCKING LOVE STACK

>>534449785
>/h/ 23-2 /lgbt/
What in the fuck? I guess /h/ were on a semi normal setup and /lgbt/ were 2-3-5 dline 10 perma plus 2?

>>534450968
Counter Target CB's being legal meta.

>kenassclown
https://youtu.be/-V5nPpdBbfU?si=S30GeTCxDcybDIpL

Life is the hardest teacher because you need to take the test before the lesson....

>>534450968
/h/ ran their summer 17 setup for bants and /lgbt/ deliberately lost

>>534450691
>post some braindead opinion
>gets a reply blowing your opinion out of the water and provides evidence supporting the rebuttal
>repeat your braindead opinion again
zoomer detected

>>534450691
4cc garbage is for banter and to have some dumb fun hoping your team loses to remind you not to take things so seriously. If anything, I'd find vtl garbage patronizing if I was involved with that league. "Yeah your team shit the bed, but come down to garbagefes where the other shitters are and you can get maybe score a win that doesn't mean anything. You'd like to know what it feels like to win, right?"

>>534450691
>You don't need to make it a spectacle
ooooh I'm just a shitty witty team pwease don't make a spectacle out of me for getting 37th place :((((
The cup has always been about spectacle and nobody bitches about garbage day, and the spoon is for statistically the worst team but there can be FAR worse teams that somehow dodged the spoon that just don't look like they are the worst statistically.

>>534442058
You don't watch the /vt/ league and you don't care about getting an answer to your question. You're a pathetic mean girl scrambling for even the flimsiest justification to post more grievances against a namefag.

>>534452330
uh oh, crybitch alert!

>>534452132
VTL viewers don't care and actively despise Golden Spoon rules.

>>534452330
holy FUARKING raped

>>534451940
The fans like seeing their team play and their models on the field. It's that simple.

>>534451474
>Makes a dogshit song about vtumors
>Leaves for three years
>Comes back to make another dogshit song about vtumors
Grim

>>534453932
It's actually a cover.

I just fapped to the green M&M

>>534454726
2025 summer cup Ro16 match for this feel?

>>534454607
TMA R. Khan likes to talk about how the 4cc and vglel are too much srs bzns but then proceeds to be a stuck up bitch over literally rule or change he implements

>>534454901
ruleset impacts the viewing experience.

There's one Gensou cup spot left, should I take it if I've never played Touhou, never read/watched any Touhou media besides bkub's Chen series, and have never touched 19?

viewers be like: wow the gameplay is so much better now that the strikers have 95 in ball handling than 99, I can totally tell the difference without even looking at the rules page

>>534455249
>I've never played Touhou
You're a perfect fit. Go on ahead and sign up

>>534455360
GPM is noticeable tho

>>534454607
>people I don't like take the league I don't watch too seriously

>>534455815
>If you say I take my meme divegrass too seriously that means you've never watched it!
I've been watching vtl since vtl3 but nice try.

>>534447637
>It's not meant to degrade the eliminated teams.
>cup is still called "garbage [teams] festival"
You might want to try again, there.

>>534456398
okay taba

>>534457814
>okay Taba
Don't you dear accuse me of being that argie zoomer.

New Ladies Night when?

>>534450691
You sound raped

>>534460001
nah that's you

>>534459962
You already had the Ladies Night finals rematch in the finals of this VGL.

It's about the time of the day for the poll schizo to start spamming again.

Garbage day isn't for the fans. It's for the comfyfags and permanently online cytube dwellers that watch anything. They are just there to make fun of teams. That's why it has only like 100 viewers.

I have no idea about Garbage fes but like most TMA shit it is probably trying too hard to have a reason to exist.

>>534460706
>I have no idea about Garbage fes but like most TMA shit it is probably trying too hard to have a reason to exist.
it was created by one of the backup streamers to provide some entertainment for /vt/ anons that stayed up all night for holofes

>>534460694
He already did in the random PES thread on /sp/

>>534459962
Well then, this year we will have Luigi Circuit and after VGL24, the summer invitationals will be RTTC4 and NTC4. There will be no LN3.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_Captain_The_Decision
holy shit!

>>534461864
>Git Gud the WASHED finally sacked

>>534461864
I'm going to reinstate Git Gud if I win.

>>534461864
>Only council pet teams allowed
Grim, may as well keep Git Gud then.

>>534461864
>/akg/, /alg/, /e7g/, /pcrg/ and /nikg/ as the participants
>no /dsg/
I don't get it.

2025 4chan Summer Cup GARBAGE DAY IS LIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2O0oYhXFBo

>>534462630
>53 minutes late

while I'm preparing auties are there any categories you'd like seeing added, removed or modified? I saw the worst player award from vgl being brought up several times in the thread so I thought I'd ask
also if you have nominations for match of the tournament/goal of the tournament/biggest spaghetti/biggest upset please do let me know, so I can avoid write-in's as much as possible

>>534462717
biggest spaghetti is the cup starting 15-30 minutes late every day

Me and who

>>534461864
VGLCW tournament to decide who to face Git Gud at the end for the new Captain spot.

>>534461864
>page does not exist

/b/ ro16 hyp leaked

>>534463001
Another candidate is /mlp/ dying on 5 points despite being the hosts

damn the average 4cc watcher looks like THAT?

>>534464145
achievable natty?

>>534464145
'd 'o

>>534464145
"PES 21 won BTW"

>>534464145
"PES17 is better than PES21 btw"

>534464304
I see the pollschizo has woken up.

>>534464145
"I hope they accept my application to VGLCO"

>>534464145
"I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH FANG"

>>534464145
"this is solvable with stat autism"

>>534464910
horsefucker btw

>>534464145
"horsefucker btw"

>>534465039
damn horsefuckers look like that?

>>534460913
>21schizo is a bong
oh nonono

>Replace Git Gud as Captain with Previous >>>123456789 for a cup
>The model is wearing a piece of clothing or accessory from every /vg/ winner
>If people like it it can stay
>If people don't like it, you have two options:
>If they were especially good, you can have hyp of them dramatically peeling off their outer adornments to reveal they were Git Gud all along
>If they were especially bad, you can have hyp of them exploding and naked Git Gud being left in a crater

this /jp/ might actually be the worst team of all time

>I just vote for the PES my team did best at
>...
>my team sucks on any PES

>>534464145
Johnny PES21fucker here

When JFK was assassinated, his wife Jackie wore her blood-stained dress the whole day just to show the world what America had done to her husband.

When PES21 lost the poll today, I vomited all over myself and I wore that the whole day just to show the world what /4ccg/ had done to me.

>>534464145
wazzat from

>>534465461
horsefucker btw

>>534465521
Some canadian guy that consistently does a panel about the 4CC at anime conventions

>>534465713
then who was phone?

>>534464145
He's doing another 4cc panel this year

>>534464145
>>534465713
Damn, Lear looks like this?

>>534465760
so you don't know?

When does /news/ play?

>>534465219
Wait is the 21schizo actually the merc? Kekypow!

the worst babby team is absolutely raping /jp/
is the babby to elite power level really that diferent
its night and day

>>534466001
they don't exist, so BEE

>>534466032
Yes

>>534465461
Kek

>>534466043
>>534465321
>deciding this over garbage day rules
However that /jp/ export is so fundamentally bad I think it would have lost all the games in a baby

>>534348723
I drew the old vtl logos. It's not a stock template, you're not gonna find the shape or patterns anywhere because I came up with them, for better or for worse.

>>534463147
You and me

>>534466043
/jp/ is the rare team that is so bad that they would get 0 points in every single group that has been played this year. However, the majority of exports are not designed to run for 90 minutes on +2 so garbage day isn't really a judge of how good/bad a team is.

>>534466032
'fraid so

>>534467208
These aren't everyone on +2 tourney setups yet, it's -2 gamespeed and keepers taking setpieces but otherwise this is like two autos going at it

>>534465219
Paki vibes

>>534467208
>However, the majority of exports are not designed to run for 90 minutes on +2 so garbage day isn't really a judge of how good/bad a team is.
Meanwhile they're losing 5-2 to [s4s]'s fetus export on neutral mentality and doubled half lengths.

>>534467650
Oh is Sou using the fetus export and not the one from Autumn 24? That’s disappointing.

>>534467803
sou said this is the autumn 2024 version though...

>>534467518
>>534467650
Oh in that case it's a better judgement. Now ignore me while I seethe that /myteam/ couldn't statpad a 5-0 win against this team.

>>534466032
Mercbrush should be banned over this

>>534467907
so rigged on 4/4 footing

IT WAS 4-0

yes this is definately a match with two generationally bad teams

-2 speed with 30 minute halves is the thinking man's setup

>>534465321
>>534466043
hmm?

>>534465060
>the swipe is better than the official one

>>534465257
Never forget.

>>534471257
>>534465060
It's pretty obvious Potato hates the logo and I don't blame him

>>534466930
This first match is a regular match, just with the match length extended to hell and back.

>>534450691
Stop deleting your posts Joshu.

After a 90 IRL minute match /jp/ wins 12-6

congratulations Autumn 24 [s4s], after 90 minutes of irl time, slipping a 4-0 lead and losing by a margin of MINUS SIX GOALS you are officially the worst team of all time

Mowtendoo should have stuck to YTPMV
Starting
/fit/ GK Could Lifting Have Saved Them?
/tv/ LB Watch It Chrissy
/wsg/ CB Dr. Ivo Robotnik
/pw/ CB Coconut Community Theatre
/sp/ RB Universal Choking Sign
/pol/ DMF Laineyball
/cm/ CMF Are Halfings Shota?
/v/ AMF Todd Howard
/vt/ AMF ogey rrat
/pw/ SS Last Match John (C)
/b/ CF ▲ ▲ ▲ (V)
Bench
/sp/ GK She's A Disgrace
/wsg/ CB Lamp Oil, Rope, Bombs?
/pw/ RB El Grande Americano
/pol/ DMF Mechahitler
/v/ LMF The Raped
/wsg/ CF Ricardo Milos

string: 53641,53386,c53580,53764,v53224,53709,53867,53552,53566,53304,53835,b,53859,53755,53631,53561,53550,53880

>>534460706
>That's why it has only like 100 viewers.
Think twice.

wait so sou ran that -2 showmatch just to piss off the retard in the thread who claimed that gamespeed makes no difference?
based if true

>>534475104
he also put halves at 30 minutes though

>>534441360
It's very likely the aes system can be ported to 14 since it's the first game with the pre-fox engine, but 13 has a completely different engine (which ironically looks better than pre-fox).
cagdas' made a couple tools to mod models on 13, and we might be able to work with them or use them as a reference to make tools of our own, but that's a fuckton of effort so don't count on it even though I wouldn't say "never".
https://evoweb.uk/threads/new-face-hair-3d-model-viewer-tool-v1-4-released-fixed-critical-bugs.71381/
https://evoweb.uk/threads/new-face-hair-3d-model-viewer-tool-v1-4-released-fixed-critical-bugs.71381/
There's even a stadium exporter.
https://evoweb.uk/threads/new-blender-2-5-stadium-exporter-project-released-new-bse-all-in-one-pack-page-76.63622/

CUM CUM CUM CUM

>>534476753
Just noticed I've pasted the same link twice. The second one was supposed to be this.
https://evoweb.uk/threads/new-face-hair-modifier-tool-for-blender-2-67-released-v1-4-first-post.71201/

>>534475104
The difference is there but isn't huge.
A while ago I've tested it by setting 5 mins as match length on the game menu, and checking the time needed for 5 ingame minutes to pass:
On -2: 19 irl seconds (which means about 5m42s irl for all of the 90 minutes ingame)
On +2: 15 irl seconds (which means about 4m30s irl for all of the 90 minutes ingame)

>>534478210
PES17 is ASS

>>534475104
no the first match of garbage day is always feature length ie slowrest possible settings

Weekly Reminder that if GermanBro was in charge when /trash/ was trying to join, they would have been allowed in.

>>534478704
i was not aware

>>534451645
Damn, good one.

What does RapeApe have against the 4cc?
Like why does he hate it?

>>534479551
He never forgave GermanBro for rigging /b/

Delicious Flat Chests FC
Starting
/v/ GK No Way Fag
/his/ LB Bomes
/tv/ CB K I N O
/pw/ CB Krispen Wah
/fit/ RB Water Buddeh
/vm/ DMF I'M ACCELERATING!
/b/ CMF Delicous Loli (V)
/vm/ AMF Rigged Polls
/wsg/ SS You Should Kill Yourself... Now! (C)
/sp/ CF TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
/his/ CF Charles II
Bench
/b/ GK Fuckin' Saved
/sp/ LB We Didn't Even Care
/pw/ CB You Tell Me
/trv/ CMF [Place], Japan
/b/ CMF Waifu Thread
/tg/ CF Doomrider

string: v53229,c53878,53809,53650,53418,53797,53743,53700,53562,53403,53379,b,53214,53567,53691,53644,53651,53225
All the teams I like died.

>>534463147
Fuck you

/co/ literally didn't show up

>>534480675
at least my wife pomni showed up

crazy to think in just 50 hours, /sp/ will have a third star :')

What if all the emotes were just anime smugfaces?

Potential /vg/ captains
>currently
Git Gud
>former gold
New Thread
>former VGL players
Greg
Orteil
Mike Schmidt
Doctor Jewgle
Grigori
Wiiiiiinds
Sex King
Sheploo
Artorias
Thok
Clown
Sakurai
nigger lol
High Impact Sexual Violence
>never been a player
Rabi
/4ccg/
Page 9
>alternatives
No perma captain
Change Git Gud to giantdad

>>534482304
Where is Konata

>>534482304
Would love Greg

>>534482371
/tf2g/ would need to sign a contract permitting her loan to /vg/

>>534482304
Mike Schmidt is still owed a cup as /vg/ gold

>>534482495
>>534482304
Many are saying this.

>>534482304
Greg will finally get his shot as a gold and the chance to be blamed for not qualifying for winter.

>>534482540
Imagine if that happened in 2025, /vg/ management just don’t let Monzo be gold because they don’t like /lcg/. Would be hilarious.

>>534481995
Maybe on planet retard

>>534479991
That's it?
His entire vendetta against 4CC stems from an event that happened 14 years ago?

Is there a page for garbage day?

>>534476753
>It's very likely the aes system can be ported to 14 since it's the first game with the pre-fox engine
OH AOBA, if you do this we'll go back to 21 for a cup cycle.

>>534483975
No I made that up

>>534482304
>Greg
Why is he so highly rated?

>>534483975
Rapeape doesn't specially hate the cup compared to the other mods, Sou hates him because his incompetence led to /f/'s deletion

>>534484183
I have a theory

>>534484042
Nope, but there's a challonge bracket below the stream.

>>534484052
>go back to 14 when 15 is already starting to look scuffed, ugly, dated and like a can of problems waiting to be opened
Shoot this man

>>534482304
We need page 9.

>>534484468
14 is actually a lot worse than 15 but few people that were around for it remember.

>>534484468
We can edit the UI.

>>534484183
He's the symbol of the lovable retard.

>>534484468
>wah it looks old
back to instagram reels zoomie

>>534484183
Funny meme.

>>534482304
Replace git gud with anything else and I'll be content

>>534482304
I would rather Grandma than Orteil if we end up going with /igg/ at some point, much better meme material.

>>534485074
who the fuck is grandma

>>534484468
>look scuffed, ugly, dated
Once the aesthetics systems are ported it won't matter because there will be 10000 FBM on the pitch

>>534485074
100% should be Grandma over Orteil. Is there a way to rip 2k models? Because having the 2k Grandma sounds fucking hysterical

>>534485172
The main character of the most iconic game on /igg/, made by Orteil
https://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

>>534484682
But you can't edit the gameplay, the in game look beyond just menu screens and UIs that look dated and visually ugly. You can't change the gameplay either and right now a lot of the vibe I get from 15 is 'it's good because we don't know it very well - or what was wrong with it'. In all honesty this succession of plumber promoted prefox PESes has been bad and enough to make me consider even trusting that guy that is eyeing up my copper wiring with PES 18 over more 'but trust me bro, it was good back in the day - you'll love 16/17/15'.

>>534484802
I'm not anti-old, I'm anti-shit and 15 doesn't look like the kind of old but in a retro good old way. It looks old in the visually dated, half-baked version of a later PES way.

gimi

call me retarded but i genuinely cant tell if the prefox vs fox autism is because aesthetics or if people think they did better on one vs the other

>>534482304
/4ccg/ should be the captain

>>534485424
I agree, especially because all I remember of 14 is that it sucks dick. 15 is better than it and that's also a pes i think people will get bored of quickly.

>>534485759
aesthetics side arguing:
Fox PES preferred for those who want better tech, Pre Fox PES preferred for those who are lazy and don't want to convert their shit at the moment
Tactical side arguing:
95% of managers/fans are voting for the PES their team did well at

>>534485759
I wouldn't put it like it is just fox vs prefox arguments, people that like 19 doesn't like 21 for example.

>>534485303
>2k Grandma
Do you have a link for that?

Any PES without portraits should not be considered except for 13.

>>534485424
Can't UI be modded?

>>534486075
Ask TDC

>>534486075
I mean the one that they use for wrasslin.

We should do the next elite on 15, then the one after that on 14, and then implement the Wheel of PES from then on

>>534485980
“Better tech” is 99% of the time obnoxious useless shit we are better off without

>>534486449
>keeper on corners
based plumbers not giving a fuck

>>534486705
it was a 3rd place babby game you’d have to be retarded to tryhard that

>>534486980
Fair enough.

Give the second gold slot to the VGL spoon, this will create more dynamic games since some of the participants will try to throw the hardest.

>>534486434
Go watch actual e-sports then if you want to see 22 normal looking players and not what we do uniquely

>>534487875
Are you retarded or did you make this post to try and fool someone?

15's tactical menu is just straight up not as good as more recent PES's. Everything takes so much longer to do.

>>534487875
I love the models and such! I just hate games like /vg/-/pol/ where I can’t tell what is going on, and the moving shit on 21 makes that even worse.

>>534488057
Well who are you trying to fool 90% of people that watch this do it for the unique aesthetics and presentation and that's the biggest unique selling point the cup has, we should do more of it and push that as far as possible. If you don't care about aesthetics why are you even taking part in this? Go do icup or actual competitive e-sports or something if you only care about gameplay.

>>534488189
Aesthetics issue, I can tell who is on who's team cause /vg/ have kit colours done properly. that's not a model issue it's a make the aestheticsfags stop being lazy and do proper uniformed team appearances. Uvscroll works the same on 19 and should work on 18 it's not a 21 thing at all. It's only bad when they do it badly, like the /biz/ mech that ruined replays or the exploding /pol/ model that was visual cancer and for every one of those there's a Isle of Manlet or Cell Ballin that is done properly and looks good.

>>534474723
i posted this in the wrong fucking thread .jpg
Kannas ridicoulous thick thighs
Starting
/b/ GK Fuckin' Saved
/v/ CB Hideo Kojima
/v/ CB Mr. Bones
/r9k/ CB Chad Thundercock
/vt/ CMF Your Honor, League of Legends
/r9k/ CMF Maidcore
/sp/ CMF Cam On Ingerland Score Sam Fakin Goals
/b/ AMF Tacgnol
/vt/ AMF ogey rrat (V)
/v/ AMF Todd Howard
/b/ SS #REKT (C)
Bench
/pol/ GK Nothing Ever Happens
/r9k/ CB Piss Bottle
/sp/ CB Ngubu
/pol/ DMF Laineyball
/sp/ DMF Prison FC
/vt/ CF Super Hyper Ultra Deluxe Perfect Nenechi

I love my zoer wife so much!

>>534488741
>If you don't care about aesthetics
Oh, so you are retarded. When a guy says he doesn't like the stuff only fox pes has, he doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't care about aesthetics at all.

Souhou Feet Pics
Starting
/b/ GK Fuckin' Saved
/his/ CB Finno-Korean Hyper War
/fit/ CB Activated Almonds
/trv/ CB Couchsurfer Rapist
/sp/ DMF >he does it for free
/tg/ CMF Old Man Henderson
/tv/ AMF Oscar Winner Brendan Fraser
/v/ AMF Todd Howard
/sp/ SS Perro Caca (V)
/b/ SS #REKT (C)
/trv/ SS American """Tourist"""
Bench
/v/ GK Never Ever
/biz/ CB Boomer Rocks
/v/ CB Mr. Bones
/biz/ CMF Bobo
/vm/ CMF Overloading Magma Worm
/tg/ CF Doomrider

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>>534488741
/vg/-/pol/ wasn’t bad because I couldn’t tell who was on what team. It was bad because it was a visual clusterfuck.
>absolute eye rape pitch texture
>multiple large static models defending for each team (Grigori, blobs, killdozer)
>/pol/ goalkeeper has no hands
And you’re telling me you want to add constantly moving models and glowing shit to this? And that I have to watch worse gameplay because of that? Nah fuck off.

>>534489297
>'better tech'
what are you even on about other than aesthetics tech then? fox pes is mostly the same game apart from a few different cards and advanced instructions

>>534489471
>/v/ GK Never Ever
Nevermind, traded for Shotabot

god i wish that was me

>>534489801
>eye rape pitch texture
/biz/ and /pg/ stadium ones probably won't be allowed again in that state or will have to be non-moving or heavily toned down when the cup goes back to fox pes again.
>multiple large static models
/aesco/ were already starting to crack down last time the cup was on fox pes, same as on prefox making /biz/ and /u/ tone down offensively large models in this cup on now
>/pol/ goalkeeper with no hands
you're just screeching about minutiae or it can be fixed with a rule change to require visible hands on GKs or ghosts for static models

The constantly moving models were getting more subtle and better last time the cup was on fox, I don't get why you're even mad about it, the most offensive things were being dealt with even back then towards the end of that era and probably wouldn't be allowed again. But what it did do going back to prefox was kill innovation and put it on ice where new things were being discovered like functional gifs, animated kit textures and long sheet music uvscroll models that slowly change over a whole match.

Git guds last match

>>534489807
I'm just having fun at this point explaining things.
First of all, I'm not >>534486434
Second, we're talking the "aesthetic tech" only fox has, which amounts to pitch-static models and uvscroll models.
Third, he said this stuff is 99% of the time just obnoxious and we're better off without it. This is certainly an exaggeration, but he's right about it being abused most of the time.
I've only replied to you because of the sheer absurdity of implying that not liking the above means not caring about aesthetics at all.

>>534490429
It's garbage day, /vg/ going to have a deep run

Hey sou can you tell me you're proud of me

how the fuck is anyone supposed to beat THIS /vg/

>>534490946
so he doesn't know?

>>534490425
>I don't get why you're even mad about it
because I don't care about anything uvscroll has to offer, and because you want to make me watch a worse game from the perspective of actually watching an enjoyable football match (pes 21) in order to put it in

>>534491052
kekypow

>>534491052
I said allegedly

>>534491158
'Fraid so. I come to /4ccg/ for all my /vg/ news after all

>>534491206
I'm not on about 21, I'm on about fox pes in general, I don't care if it's on 21, 19 or even 18, I'd rather see new tech and innovation on fox pes than stagnation and boredom with prefox aes.

>>534490429
>>534490946
A massive weight has lifted off my shoulders

>>534491683
>new tech and innovation
>it's all gifs

Justified "You deserve it" chants at the Synthwave Sunset Stadium after Git Gud's final match!

YOUR NEW /vg/ CAPTAIN

>>534491849
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD

>>534486705
Keeper Grigori scored a goal in that game

It's in

>>534491683
From the makers of potential team comes: potential new tech and innovation!

>I want to watch an enjoyable football match
>He says talking about Langball spam or HAspam, 16's lack of variety and repetitive goal fests, whatever the fuck 15 is going to give us besides the endless backpassing to yourself and implying 14.
I don't think you know what enjoyable football is... I agree with anon in that good aesthetics are half the reason people like this though.

>>534492456
Exactly why I voted for 18.

>>534490274
giwtm2

>>534492852
I believe it

>>534492456
21 is worse though. 343 slop one team allowed to play coin flip. You will never win a gameplay argument with 21, at least 19 can be fun despite massive momentum shifts.

>>534492852
I too have started noooticing

>>534492852
The schizo types like a goofy retard so I believe it.

>>534493363
>>>/sp/150142303 check the flag

When I'm in a raped competition but my bracket has Kevin Nash, pes 21 defenders and git gud defenders

>>534493503
why is he such a deranged retard faggot little cocksucker?

>>534493193
and eventually you'll just come to accept every PES is broken but the least broken is 19

Guys, jack frost just took git gud to the back and there was a bang sound.

>>534493708
19 would be so fucking perfect if it didn't have the worst momentum

17 feels like the only pes that works without stat autism, patching or formation bans

>>534493843
After two cup cycles and two vgl seasons of seeing how arbitrary and out of control 17 mementum can get? Go watch the /pw/ - /d/ match again and say that's really not worse than 19 mementum. 19 is at least predictable and might be possible to manipulate it with different rulesets like all orange conditions or AI difficulty settings

>>534493843
Is this momentum scripted or are people being retards trying to find patterns that aren't there

>>534494280
you tell me probably the latter

Make the logo smol.
Make the logo smoller.

>>534494280
19's momentum is completely scripted

Mercbitch the raped got assaulted 4 times in a row by Kizzy and mars in the hot sweltering summer of ‘25

>>534494280
It consistently triggers when a team has a 2-0 lead or a similar gap opens up with shots from one team that is leading. All orange conditions makes it do weird shit that could do with testing more when it ends up in a feedback loop of triggering on itself until you get a PES 16 scoreline.

>>534494215
What makes you think 17 isn't fixable with random shit like orange conditions(?) or AI difficulty settings(lol)? Why is 19 so fixable in your eyes? Maybe you should test that theory instead of making us jump head first into a pes with the POTENTIAL of fixing it's biggest flaw.

[Sad News] Sou dies at 47 taking a shit after his femhorroids exploded bigly.

>>534494280
Its pretty strongly noticeable compared to most PESes. If a team is on fire and scores 2 goals pretty quickly in the first 25 minutes or so, you'll notice they become horrendous passing-wise or shot-wise in the 2nd half, even if the other team makes no changes.

who will replace git gud?

>>534494696
me

>>534494462
The rumors were true?

>>534494772
‘fraid so

>>534494696
Let the hat choose

>>534494696
This anon >>534494724

>>534494856
kekaroo

>>534494856
jej

>>534482304
where is shiddy?

>>534494826
That’s me, he should be sacked.

>>534494856
kek idblt tho

>>534494856
cogbrush looks like THAT?

>>534492420
I actually have a bunch of new tech and innovation for prefox

>>534482304
ENTER

>>534493193
Then don't use the "good football match" argument if you don't want to be on a Fox PES. Every PES has something wrong with it that can make it abysmal.

>>534494856
>rapedbrush

>>534495746
Leomon doesn't need to be /vg/'s captain because he'll be /vg/'s other Gold when /digi/ revives for Time Stranger's release.

Bring back /digi/ desu

>>534494560
Because it does nothing about the other things that are broken in 17, the playstyles and cards that don't function as they're actually intended. The way 17 mementum works chaining combos of 2-4 goals in quick succession is also far more scuffed than 19 and every change to 17 so far on rules has made it even worse like playing around with footing. The CPU speed issue and wild variances with it is also really scuffed and not an issue on 19 which is causing absolute dogshit individual days on 17 Also the formation variety meme has been well and truely buried now, the last two cups, probably this one will be and the last VGL have all been won by longball narrow 433 exports.

I'm not saying 19 because it's perfect but it's the closest to being fixable of the fox PESes, 21 has all kinds of issues and haters that go out their way to stop it coming back, 18 has serious technical issues with nvida graphics cards and poor optimisation, it might be fixable but both 18 and 21 still require a lot of work to fix. 18 is very biased towards 442 wide and 21 is lmao all your cups are the same 343 with tiny variations. 19 is the closest to being fixable and still has formation variety better than 21 or 18 or even 17 now, even if it's just 433 v 442. Unpatched does also make 451 as viable.

>>534495378
TRAPPED and BETRATED on the /smbg/'s bench

>>534496687
>CPU speed issue
what?

>>534494856
This post was made in West Coast hours though?

>/digi/ reviving
The brazilian's hate for VGLco is greater than his desire to see /digi/ alive.

Long ball GODS raped 21BRUSH not one, but three times during the sweltering summer VGL

>>534496687
>18 has serious technical issue
like?
>nvida graphics cards
what the fuck is that?
>poor optimisation
proofs?
>18 is very biased towards 442 wide
every pes is more or less biased towards some formation

>>534497124
all KWABbrush has to do for 25 if it stays on 17 is just run a narrow longball 433, and I'm sure no-one will complain or insult PES 17 when VGL 25 final 16 is 16 narrow long ball 433 teams

>>534497365
trip on gio, at least be honest when youre selling snake oil at us

>>534478781
>/trash/fags have resorted to GermanBro originalism to defend their team

>>534497371
nah, hate all his merced teams, also hate that he's the kind of faggot who jumps ship just because he got raped (put on the /kfg/ flair for the final)

Garbage day 9

>>534498285
he got the 9 from 4 goals and 3 assists

>>534496687
I wouldn't call /vrg/ a hyper narrow 4-3-3. I would also argue that 4-4-2 can contend well with 4-3-3 on 17, but formations I don't really care about formations because there is always going to be an agreed top tier on any pes and the others are going to less consistent. One of my main problems with 17, rather than broken play styles because I don't know what you're talking about, is that this is the first iteration of advanced instructions and they are not implemented well. The stuff where one team randomly looks like trash and 1 striker formations don't work half the time is going to happen on any pes.

>>534498812
I'm not saying 24 had pes 21 levels of everyone running the exact same 343 export with barely any variety between them, but look at how Summer has gone and do you really think 25 won't just be Summer 22 levels of everyone copying the same 433 narrow long exports if it's still on 17? Sure they won't be the exact same, but it'll still end up being overwhelmingly 433 narrow long exports that can maybe back up to being a short 433 or even a backup 442. This is the most obvious reason three cycles on the same PES doesn't work now, put aside all the differences how it runs, the third cycle either needs formation bans (already ruled out) or everyone runs the same thing that worked in previous ones so they don't get raped again trying to be different or are just too lazy to even try anything but obvious meta. Even if you allowed HA, you still get the same, everyone will run 433 narrow long but with HA.

>>534499332
/jp/ will defend the honor of the elite teams that relegated.

>>534498461
and a shutout, and drawing a red card. So that's the formula for 9.0

>>534497946
kwab

>>534499449
Every attempted shot resulted in a goal, and was involved in every goal.

>Garbage Day has a re-run of the Spring 25 final
KEKYPOW

GSBBBB

>>534497242
Brazilian here
nah, if anyone wants to revive it, i won't be in the way

>>534499707
PGSSBBTTCC

>>534500096
>tin above copper

>>534499707
LGBTABCDFWTFKKKNIGG+

>>534499335
>the third cycle either needs formation bans (already ruled out)
slider bans

>>534493503
the accidental fantasy posting was a different person t.me

>>534499335
you keep saying 21 had all 3-4-3 when 4-4-2 did just fine in the ro16s of 21 cups

>>534501193
>just fine in the ro16s

>>534501607
yes , of multiple cups plural, round of 16s? you want to call me out so desperately but youre the esl nigger

>>534501193
>ro16
STOP THE CUP

>>534501193
World's top 4 was 3-4-3, 4-4-2, 3-6-1, 4-4-2
Autumn's was 4-4-2, 3-6-1, 4-5-1, 3-6-1
Winter's was 3-4-3, 4-4-2, 2-6-2, 3-4-3
Spring's was 4-3-3, 3-4-3, 3-5-2, 4-3-3
Summer's was 3-4-3, 3-4-3, 3-4-3, 3-4-3
Now you can make the argument that summer's patch broke 21 beyond repair to get there. However, VGL18's top 4 was also all 3-4-3. So the 3-4-3 armageddon was going to happen eventually regardless of the patch used. Yes there were other formations that were "fine" on 21, and it even had a good variety before summer, but 3-4-3's floor and ceiling were both so much higher than everything else that it wasn't worth running anything else.

>>534502923
ah so summer is the one people call 3-4-3 god on , yeah you got me there, and thats what people will use if we go back to it unpatched

>>534502923
VGlel is not even worth discussing when it comes to these things. It’s a dentist league

Starting to understand why /mu/ management hates gusic so much

>>534505475
why

>>534496687
>18 has serious technical issues with nvida graphics cards and poor optimisation
had no problems with 1070 back then

>>534505475
Gusic dindu nuffin wrong even in the garbage day rules

>>534505543
He won't tell you so I will: popular thing bad

>>534505475
Comfy shitter meme

>>534494856
kekypow

>>534508416
Meme retard

I don't has horse on the race but some stadiums look better in fox pes like /u/ stadium

>>534506314
So this is what /co/ is like. Interesting.

>>534508542
Same thing with /tv/ and Sneed

>>534508542
all me

>>534508608
look, we know it's funny to laugh at Alex for being an ESL and being a very vocal one at that too, but you can at least pretend to be one any other time than now.

>>534508710
gusic is a widely popular and beloved meme that's trapped and betrayed in the 77 chambers instead of being a deserved medal player?

>>534508943
'fraid so

>>534508943
I like Sneed's current role as the consistent reliable late-game sub. Maybe one day he'll even score. Maybe even this weekend.

Small announcement for everyone interested in the Gensō Cup 2:
The cup has been postponed by one week, after a quick vote between the organizers and participants which was approved by unanimity.
The new dates are August 23-24 and 30-31, hope to see you there.

>>534509514
Oh my god, who the hell cares?

>>534510719
that one tripfag who keeps on posting his schizo team in here, the fuck is it even about if it's not really touhou?

>>534510836
not once has my boyfriend used a trip while posting here

vgl managers for this feel?

giwtm 3

>>534511335
roonsoup

>>534511335
Zoer

>>534511897
what is going on here

>>534465713
Is that the same guy who used to manage /jp/ and /gig/?

>>534464145
I own the same laptop

>>534464145
this is troonsoup before transition

Sou the wrasslin
THE WRASSLIN SOU

>>534510719
At least a dozen or so people who signed up lmao

>>534464145
"so you just type '/zzz/bro btw' and you win the argument"

>>534514563
/zzz/bro btw

>>534512332
ain't anyone who used to manage /jp/, unless it's half, in which case use homemade nerve gas on that panel

>>534514706
But half was right though?

Tomorrow...

WRASSLIN WHEN??

>>534515918
It's over, ICE got to him

>>534514706
What was that jp-gig manager's name? Tensai, I think. He was a leaf, a Quebecker leaf

>>534514563
Ok I laughed

>>534516096
I can't believe Sou is fucking dead

>>534516096
Just wait for it to melt?

Honest question /4ccg/ would you care for PES 18 more if the biggest shills weren't the Copper Stealing Gypsy and The Small Market Manager That Pisses His Pants at Any Mention of 16 and 17?

>>534518769
who's the second one?

>>534518769
I"m interested in 18, and that has no regard for the people that talk about it. I'm sure it's fixable with stats autism and it feels like an interesting puzzle to make it not boring as hell.

>>534518769
I already love 18

>>534518852
Discordant

>>534518769
No because it runs badly and the three cups on it were bad to watch. If /cm/ and /pol/ are the best teams on that PES it's not a good PES, especially in /cm/'s case.

>>534518769
Not really because no one has told me what it offers differently from all the other PESes.

>>534519606
>it runs badly
Have we tried setting Aoba on it?

>>534519719
It doesn't run badly for for aesthetic reasons so it's probably something he can't fix

But seriously
Where the fuck is wrasslin

>>534524732
The booker broke his leg in the stable and the trainers are debating euthanasia

>>534524732
Sit tight and in an hour or eight Sou will wake up and apologize.

Is there any downside to Sou stepping down as commissioner?

>>534525489
The cup dies

>>534525529
We've had non-Sou commissioners before you know. Unless the cup was dead from minute 1 with Germanbro until Sou revived it.

>>534525489
It's taken over by one of the jaded dickheads who only still involves themself with it out of either a feeling of obligation or a feeling of not having much else.

>>534525489
The alternative is Crimson so weigh the positives and negatives of that

Sou is the best comissioner because he's the only one who consistently seems like he's having any fun

>>534525489
Not really, he doesn't seem to have any say at all when it comes to rules or decisions. The only time he did, he turned 16 into more of a joke. He is a cool guy and all, and I like him more than Crimson but I don't think he makes any difference.

So is the vod for day 2 permanently fucked or will it be fixed? No chat until the 39 minute mark, just wondering if the archivefag is here to confirm one way or another

/ag/ league soon

>>534529149
>he turned 16 into more of a joke
Summer '24 was the best cup we've had in a long while, all the non-medal strikers and goals really injected some freshness and variety into the viewing experience, since teams haven't been barely changing their medals over the years.

>>534534814
From that perspective, I can understand the value of having six different players scoring goals that are not usually medals

Kissing my cute wife zoer day and night!

>>534532926
Fixed

Rabi the change and vote Rabi for /vg/ captain

>>534537492
I vote :doroshit:

>>534534225
>tfw you didn't make the cut

>>534540959
my wife

>>534540959
Sora>Suguri

was there wrestling?

>>534544524
No, I ate dinner and died. I'll figure it out in the next week.

>>534525779
is he really the only alternative?

>>534537392
sweet, much appreciated

>>534514785
He was right about his grievances, but he went against almost every single one of them himself. He's the perfect example of a broken clock.

>>534546216
>he's got internet access in hell
Cool

>>534548892
you get internet in hell but only 2 bars

>>534541978
Maybe on planet retard

>>534494856
I voted for 15 though?

Also that guy has far too much hair to be me

>>534443869
I'm not gay

How hard is porting 17 AES to 15?

>>534557624
If you have a basic export without fbms which use kit-dependent textures, it should require no work in theory, but 15 is still a work in progress for the next month so things might get easier or harder.

>>534557902
good to know, thanks

>>534557624
keep the desuposting up desufag, it is cute

Casual reminder that there's one week to the /ag/ league deadline. If you're going to pull out, pull out now so the backups bother to submit anything. /pedalem/ and /hoenn/ are already confirmed in and need to submit things.

Is this possible in Rigdio?
it's not a big deal but the less streamer has to think about which buttons to press the better