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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
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I had a mocha at 7:30PM and now it's almost 4AM and I'm still wide awake this is ALL CHARA'S FAULT

>>534373551
that's way too late for coffee

kris is chara is NOT the player is NOT frisk

hewwo fwiends <3

I love Battat!!!

good evening, i love them

Current whiteboard: https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86334166-7615-3117
Magma: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh
WorldOfText: https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg

>>534373694

>>534373551
don't have caffeine past 6 unless you're planning on staying up late, dummy

>>534373773
UUUOOOOOHHHHHHH TENNA MILK SEXOOOOOOOOOO

>>534373812
The guy with no friends who's always whining about how he has no friends because nobody understands him gets angry when he gets called a friend

>>534373946
can't expect much more from a fifth grader

TV DAISUKI!!!!! SPAMTENNA DAISUKI!!!

>>534373773
What does Tenna milk taste like?

>>534373946
yes, as a matter of a fact i still have standards for my associations even if i am the lonliest person in the world.

because no matter how fucking bad it gets, i will still hate people like you.
be normal.

I LOVE TV!

>>534373946
I’m kraut’s friend, and I’m also doomin’

>>534373773
good job erasing the niggers

>>534374163
When's the wedding?

>>534373551
At least you're not like me who can take an energy drink and than just fall asleep. Feel blessed you can stay awake.

>>534374163
i don't have dooming friends, i only have doomed friends.
keep up with the krautrivia.

so, do we think there's only one roaring knight, or is the roaring knight more of a title/mantle than an individual? i'm still split on that idea.
>>534373946
>>534374025
hard to make friends when losers like you decide to grossly misinterpret anything kraut posts or says. you can't actually comprehend any of their humour, so you just take it as a direct insult.. even though you're anonymous???
sounds like you're just a bitch. maybe it's more fun to make friends with people like kraut, who have a bit of bite to them, unlike you vanilla bastards.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6eCuCve1Bp4&t=1470s
>Dark worlds = The black lodge
Meaning, it’s a space between lightners and the afterlife. So if Dess dies, she can be brought back to life in this space or some use of it.

This also means, Castletown is the angel’s heaven, and it should be a a really bad sign to see Kris and Susie have those rooms there. Because it’s fully intended for this space to brought to the afterlife and never return.

>>534374316
aren't you the fag complaining about your bpd ex girlfriend

HERE YA GO PRESENT FOR YA, request delivered

>>534373421 (OP)
>lightners live
>look inside
>all darkners

>>534374316
>you can't actually comprehend any of their humour
i thought the point of germany was that they don't have humor?

>>534374559
thank you
she loafin

>>534374559
my 300 pound life

>>534374559
Woah mama

>>534374541
never complained, just threw in my two cents on the types of women kriselle enjoyers fetishize. it's not all roses, kinky sex and drugs. life's a little more complicated than your sub-15 year old, critically undeveloped perspective.
>>534374675
eh, it's more dry, or subversive humour if anything. it's either very blunt and easy to get, or it's so dry and almost openly hostile, that it takes a moment to separate reality from jape.
>>534374559
her face so cuuteee.

>>534374316
heh, yeah... we're not like those LAME losers! Yesterday when Miss Paulson did roll call I said "not here" instead of "here". like everyone laughed, it was epic. heh... offended, liberal? It's called dark humor. *walks away with grin on my face*

>>534373696

Seizing Kris while they sleep and forcing them down and biting them on the neck, turning them into my next child

After seeing a fresh batch of annoying posts on tumblr I've decided that I don't think Toby simply keeping Ralsei a normal male is enough, I think he needs to be a transman. Someone who actively choose manhood specifically as a hostile rejection of all the transwoman Ralsei truthers on there.

It's sad today that Toby Fox just announced Deltarune is cancelled forever.

>>534374559
Didn’t request but thank you thank you thank you

>>534375228
how about just ralsei being a guy with cock and balls

Hell frozen rain falls down.

>>534374883
forgive us if we don't take relationship advice from someone like you lol

>>534375240
yay

>>534374080
BEST COUPLE!

>>534375334
source?

>>534375194
Carol…

Tragically I must sleep
But I will dream of noelle holiday

>>534375478
Anon from /doe/.

I think if I made a game everytime I saw fat fanart of my characters I'd have the canon ones become ten pounds skinnier.

>>534374883
>>534375361
>us
you're the only one still dragging with weird spontaneous argument of yours. i didn't give advice, i just stated a reality. i confided in a community i interact with on the daily, and honestly if you're just gonna continue to be a twit for no reason, maybe i should just hide the posts, right? keep it simple.
maybe you're my ex. scary though, you're insistently incorrect like her too.
>>534375481
milf...

are Krautsie and Doomie the only circus performers left from the pre-Chapter 3+4 days

>>534374083
it tastes like how the back of a tv smells

so is the ralsei is kris fursona theory still alive?

mfw kris is asleep and his feet are defenseless

>>534375726
Krismas Holiday…

>>534375791
Honestly, after Ramb, it’s utterly dead.
Queen would know Ralsei if that was the case.

>>534374316
its okay, anon.
even if it's not.

your ambivalent display of kindness is noble, but ultimately worthless, not because of who you stand up for, but who you stand up against.

in my head fujo!jongler sounds like beyonce, fujo pippin sounds like pinkie pie and shadow gal sounds like https://youtu.be/uioYpJIeA0Y?si=H8bCVJe6Y5GODRAf

>>534375726
it's milf hours

>>534375734
the second bird faggot is still here if he counts

>>534375481
Never associate me with ugly beings such as that!

>>534376075
I'd chat with shadow gal

>>534374423
What about a nice lodge that does charity and wears funny hats and drives little cars and casually dominates your local government and police/fire departments?

So far there are five families in Deltarune: The Dreemurrs, The Holidays, The Cattenheimers, The Booms, and Dad Gang. This raises so many questions like, do Susie, Berdly, Jockington, Undyne, Napstablook, Alphys and others have families? Sans and Papyrus are known to be brothers but their family name is unknown (it's assumed 'Gaster' as their family name).

>>534375334
Damn they turned Noelle into an LGBTQIcicle.
She a damn Popsicelle.

>>534375154
The ugly is what makes him so cute <3

>>534376024
I keep thinking this is a forretress from the thumbnail

>>534376338
I assume napstablook lives with mettaton

>>534375228
They're not ready for the Kris = The Girl possibility. I mean it's more straightforward than that

>>534376338
They just aren’t important, but likely exist. Like the blocked off part of hometown implies there is a greater world we will never see.

>>534375726
>>534376063
yeah, it's a reality that's become apparent to me recently. doesn't matter how i try to maintain some semblance of sanity or kindness, everyone around me just doesn't want to hear it.
i'm not saying i'm the crown standard of mental wellness, but every single human interaction i've been having has just been negative- i barely speak a fucking word, and somebody's got an issue nobody reciprocates any of the respect i give them, all humans are fixated on are your flaws, they never highlight any of the good stuff you got going on.
maybe you've got a good thing going here, kraut. just treat these people like the piles of shit on the sidewalk they are.

>>534376049
>Oh Kris. It seems that fat drunkard goat you have the misfortune to call a Mother has forgotten about you... again. Don't worry, I'm here for you. I may not be the coddling type like her, but I'll give you more genuine affection than she could ever muster. After all, you were always like the little brother Dess never had. That practically makes you MY son

>>534376338
Blooky is family with the other ghost cousins
There's no reason to assume that Berdly and Jockboy don't have families
Alphys moved into Hometown from elsewhere so if she has family they're out of town
Undyne's family status is unknown
Susie's family status is especially unknown, I'm leaning towards her being a foster kid

>>534375636
Every time you'd make the canon ones skinnier, artists would only be fueled to draw them fatter, creating a vicious cycle that would end in your characters having negative weights.
Eventually, the number would get so low you'd have an overflow error and your characters would now weigh 999,999 pounds.

>>534374790
Try 800, that bed is in agony.

>>534376143
MORE...

M O R E

>>534376647
sure, we can go back to being nasty if that's what you're into.

>>534376546
>Susie is the Girl
>Noelle is the Girl
>Actually Ralsei is trans and the Girl
>actchually Kris is AFAB and technically the real Girl
>what if Dess was the Girl all along
Deltarune more like WOMENrune amiright?

>>534376647
You treat others the way you want to be treated. Kraut is the one who enters a video game discussion general and continuously insults people's art/writing and larps as a nazi.

>>534376862
indeed

>>534376075
>Fujogal pick
Kek
To me, Fujo pippins's voice is a similar pitch to Japanese Tomoko Kuroki's except her voice isn't nearly as soft sounding unless she really tries lol

>>534376847
that cheeto under her tit turned into carbon in that anaerobic high pressure enviroment and once she laid on her stomache and exerted perssure on that area where the cheeto is, it actually started forming diamonds.

>>534377238
don't bother responding to that dude, he has bpd

>>534376338
Berdly and Jockington likely have families.
Undyne is unknown but she's an adult, in UT Gerson and Asgore seemed like stand-in father figures for her.
Alphys relatively recently moved to Hometown to teach so her family would be out of town.
The Ghosts are cousins though Ghosts are weird so their situation might be unique.
Susie's family situation is unknown and that one at least seems relevant, in UT we at least know she does have one parent.

>>534377337
Should I research his behavior for writing Tenna?

>>534377267
i want pre-sad carol.
i hate to see her so ruined by grief.

>>534377305
>Tomoko Kuroki
how that's a perfect fit actually!

>>534376546
I tried to bring it up a few times with people over there and was mostly politely ignored. It feels weird to say but I honestly feel like tumblr aligned internet is gonna crash out harder than 4chan aligned internet when second hero Kris theory is confirmed.

The funny part about kraut is that literally any sort of social skill, wealth, knowledge, or simply being American makes your life at least ten times more valuable than his.

>>534377483
i have a pre-sad carol, unfortunately it's right next to VERY sad carol

>>534377449
do you aim to write tenna in the discard phase, when he is at his most vindictive, bitter, and delusional?
then yes

>>534376901
it's a weird route i've never treaded down before, but what's the harm? every other road i've walked down has just been a dead end.
>>534377238
i can see why, you're all incredibly obnoxious when you're not making content. half-digested, schizoid theories, arguments that go nuclear over the genitals of a fictional character. all i've done is try to do something fun with you guys, like art and cyoa's. seems like it's a waste of time.
>>534377337
>>534377449
like, this. why do i even humour this? just blatant disrespect, and all i've done is describe an event in my life that's left me with a different perspective, and you guys just decide to anonymously dogpile on me. why wouldn't i be sick of that?

>>534376862
Why are Susellefags like this? Susie doesn’t even see her that way.

>>534377563
>her hopes and optimism gone
>what remains is a cynical husk
me too, popiscle-lady.
me too...

>>534376546
>>534377514
I think you’re both nuts.

>>534377563
toby will redeem carol. i can feel it

>>534377773
I think both anons are enlightened

>>534377514
There are more people here who would get mad if Kris was confirmed as biologically female, but the people over there would be disproportionately madder about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIO7i_LBBos

>>534377312
What a monster~

>>534377639
faggots are not held by restrictiions such as reality or healthy boundaries or "red flags"
when you say stuff like "romantic chemistry" it seems to them you are gargling an arcane enchantment in a long forgotten language that they do not understand.

mind you: susellefags do not like susie or noelle individually, but they are just fagshippers.
krusie-shippers are shippers that like shit that will never be canon and kriselle shippers come in two flavors:
"non-canon and happy" and canon and "if a children's game could have rape in it, it would be that."

back from work after 8 eating cold leftovers and drinking milk
only my love for kris keeps me going

>>534378079
>the power of lactose persistance shines within you

Behold fags, the truth of the second hero

Does anyone else think it’s weird that we’ve barely gotten any info/teasers on ch5 and literally nothing on 6/7. Tony what are you hiding… this balloon is ominous as fuck

>>534375228
People can have whatever headcanons they want, but it's annoying when they expect you to take it seriously as a theory based on extremely flimsy evidence like "Ralsei says the mannequin dress is cute." I've seen people get absolutely reamed for not taking trans Ralsei into account in their theory posts, it's retarded.

one of my friends played through all of deltarune for the first time and now it's getting me and another friend to talk about it with them and I keep having to explain random lore or tidbits and then drop some shit they've never heard of or don't know about and they genuinely want to hear more
I fucking love Deltarune

>>534378321
it's probably mostly just that 3 and 4 have always been more complete asset wise just stuck in dev hell
but i could see some bigger twists like "yeah the festival doesn't really happen for kris, susie and noelle" or "yeah this actually does take place in the shelter"

>>534378883
>Has friends
Anon, please leave.

>>534377996
What do they think about the fact that Susie was a colossal bitch to Kris before the game, all while Noelle watched like a coward and got horny over her childhood best friend got threatened with death?

>>534377942
just put some iridium under her tit and hope she compresses it so hard that the density of the material violates the valence bonds of their atoms and lends its neighbor the charged particles it needs to become the next element
you would turn from iridium to platinum and if that ass fat enough, from platinum to gold.

mind you platinum is 80 bucks per gram.

>>534378321
Dess sex scene

I like how people here attack trans and gays when deltarune is currently made by troons and fags.
Says a lot

https://poipiku.com/61459/12052909.html
https://files.catbox.moe/206ll5.png
Spamtenna.

>>534378976
Kris also got horny

>>534378976
Noelle is a flawed character, obviously.
>>534379140
It's called being self-destructive, anon.

>>534374559
too fat
artists never can get that goldilocks zone of fat with her they either give her a "curvy" bod or something excessively fat that would immobilize her

>>534379140
4chuds incapable of dealing with the fact that rightoids are culturally impotent

>>534378994
Ah yes, the old alchemist’s disappearing a more expensive element into a lesser one.

>>534378321
I've always believed the reason for that is that six and seven are where everything gets weird and meta and probably post roaring. Chapter 3 and 4 coming out has made me believe that even harder. I'm 96% certain five is a whole town festival darkworld and ends in the roaring. Having both the knight and Titan happen sooner than even I thought basically proves it.

>>534379262
That isn't an alchemy special, idiot. That's just called entropy, and it happens to every chemical reaction.

>>534379140
There aren't even any anti-trans posts in this thread so far. Save your bait for when we get locked in another pronoun loop.

>>534379352
It’s an esoteric joke about stealing from kings, because they never could make gold from lead.

>>534379436
my baits are ready, always

>>534379454
Egg on my face, I'll accept it. Pretty funny in hindsight. Nice.

>>534379165
keriage always delivers

>>534379140
There's a litmus of how much the average person can enjoy a piece of media with LGBT or autistic coded content. The harder you press those themes the less it appeals to a general audience and the more niche and the fewest people it appeals to.
Within Deltarune and its fandon, that litmus is very high, but it still exist, even here in this general where people tolerate woke content far more than the avere 4chud. Turning major character story arcs into full trans and gay core material at its crux will inevitably push people into zones they're not comfortable with and generate negative reactions

fellas, is it gay to think kris is an absolutely handsome mad lad? noelle is so lucky.

>Fighting the Roaring Knight with a Vessel that isn't straight-up throwing the game

>>534379665
I hope you'll be happy when we get our vessel back.

>>534378976
I think it’s funny that it’s always okay when Susie does it because yumyum tomboy dino puss (Susie could behead an innocent person in chapter 5 and the audience would cheer)

>>534378976
its actually quite hard to make noelle look like a good person.
>teachers pet watches from the bushes touching herself while kris gets beat, threatened and insulted.
>after noelle ditched kris and constantly claims that their friendship is in the past tries to rizz that one friend he's made because she's horny, actively piggybacking off of kris' tomboy resocialization course because she is horny and because she reminds her of her punk sister.
>she wastes an entire chapter telling you how fucking horny she is for her "haha remember when we were friends, kris? fahahaha that was long ago wasn't it, fahahah!"
if you played the better route, she immediately thinks about killing you the moment you break her faggot-bubble just for that sweet moment of nostalgia to ride the ferris wheel, which she immediately uses as an excuse to gush about susie again.
by the end of the chapter queen takes all of her friends hostage and threatens to kill them all, but noelle being noelle just demands susie being freed from her graps (fuck kris and ralsei, i guess)

susie starts to get wise on her shit in ch4 how noelle throws him under the bus just to flirt with her.

the bunker is a makeshift prison. for the roar/tail of hell. for gaster.

>the shelter...? right... undyne had been in charge of something about that
>an important code or some thing... it was the only thing that ever made her nervous
>... i never saw it though. i don't think it's even in the station.
>personally, that place gives me the creeps... i would never go there
>there are things that even ghosts are afraid of...

>>534379618
I do think toby figured out how to have trans and gay themes without it going to cringe territory

guys
6 and 7 haven't even started development
they haven't been shown because there's nothing TO show beyond concept stuff

>>534379792
Kris was also touching themself when Susie bullied them

>weird route ending VS Noelle
>defeat Noelle but Kris accidentally beats her to death
>I thought you were stronger

>>534379639
Kris is an absolute cutie.

>>534379859
Yes. 6 and 7 in 2029, 0 in 2030. Screenshot this post.

do people actually play this game multiple times over?
because I played
Undertale exactly once, getting to the True Pacifist ending and never again
Deltarune Chapter 1 twice (in preparation for chapters 3+4)
Deltarune Chapter 2 twice (in preparation for chapters 3+4)
Deltarune Chapters 3+4 once
never played genocide or snowgrave
i do talk about it endlessly though

>>534373946
I do not care about Kraut lore, please just ignore the schizos

>>534379859
They have started development on them.
You must be the same tard who said chapter 5 would be delayed, because of some made up excuse. I don't know if it's just reaction bait or a delusion that's turned into an internal fact, but unless you post a screenshot next to your "fact", you're a fucking liar, and your post will be labelled as off-topic.

>>534380030
yeah, I've replayed it a handful of times. Not really different than rewatching a favorite show a bunch of times

>>534380030
I’ve beaten both, repeatedly, bad routes first.

>>534380119
>They have started development on them.
source: your headmates

>>534374790
My 600 pound wife

>>534380030
I plan on replaying chapter 3 and 4 solely because I didn't get those crystal things the first time.

>>534379262
>>534379352
somehow even my jokes make people fight.
the joke was: she fat as fucc, boi.

things can only be compressed to a certain degree until things fuse, if you fuse things the atomic structure must change in so far that some atoms gain charge and become a different material alltogether, but atoms naturally repell one another and it takes massive force to move them close enough for them to be able to have valence bonds touching and once they touch, they can exchange charges which can change the make-up of the material at an atomic level.

essentially you could micro-dot the surface of platinum with gold without adding any, but the energy investment is worse more than it is to buy gold.

>>534380013
:(

>>534379618
Who cares about the genders of every characters if the story is good? Kris being non-binary is interesting because it makes Kris's identity is mysterious. People hate bad writing, not faggot characters. Take a look at Sailor Moon for example.

>>534378976
Susie seriously needs to apologize for that shit.

>>534380119
chapter 5 did get delayed tho
we were supposed to get it with 3 and 4

Why tf is this so popular in Brazil of all places.

https://youtu.be/0enC-A8w-Og

>>534380219
>make people fight
Again anon, just a joke. A laugh between friends.

>>534380030
I'm doing one playthrough as the chapters release and once it's complete I'll go through it again and do all of the optional stuff.

>>534378976
Kris not slashing her throat is an indicator that he was either fine or indifferent to it. She’s still a cunt though.

>>534380049
Stop necroing posts, nobody's talking about Kraut anymore. If you're still digging this conversation up, it's probably because somebody's hurt your brittle feelings, and you're just chasing an excuse to continue the argument again. Genuinely pathetic, consider slitting your wrist the longest way possible until the blood gets dark.

>>534380159
>source
Toby Fox's Bluesky, you uninformed spaz. Every chapter has had their outlines established, they're just filling in the details as more developers join in with Toby.

>>534380219
Don't jerk yourself off, the argument was loosely related to your post. Incredible how anons get an ego over the smallest bouts. You really need to improve your sense of self worth.

>>534380303
Not what I meant. I'm talking about the tinfoil faggots that started saying Chapter 5 would be delayed until 2027. If you're not in that camp, then I apologize.

>>534380159
>headmates
Just call them schizo visions

Man you guys have bad PTSD from your former friends gradually abandoning you

>>534379792
You all underestimate Toby. Name one time he ever failed when it came to writing characters in Undertale. Toby knows he wrote Noelle as a piece of shit and he's doing it for a reason. Trust the dog.

>>534379914
word.
>>534380030
undertale five times or so?
first playthrough i remember killing froggits, but i realized i fucked up when i killed toriel.
i felt so bad that i went back, fixed my mistake and made it a failed neutral run.
fixed my mistake and made it a pacifist run
followed flowey's advice and made it a ture pacifist run.

NEVER WENT GENOCIDE.
>deltarune
played ch1 like 10 or so times or so, i liked it a lot.
then ch2 dropped. played pacifist once, had a stone in my gut until i played genocide.
wiated four years for ch3 and ch4 to drop and continued playing genocide from there.

I WANT MY VESSEL
I WANT MY VESSEL
I WANT MY VESSEL
I WANT MY VESSEL

>>534380627
Gerson talking to Spamton and Jevil

>>534380630
>Name one time he ever failed when it came to writing characters in Undertale.
Alphyne

>>534379859
I wonder if the only chapter 3 but not with the chapter 4 were released today, what the theories would the fandom come out with?

Overfeeding my Pippins so he'll be fat enough to survive the winter.

>>534380557
>Toby Fox's Bluesky, you uninformed spaz. Every chapter has had their outlines established, they're just filling in the details as more developers join in with Toby.
so, concept shit, exactly as i fucking posted
hello, dunning-kreuger

>>534380729
What's OOC about Hitler and Mengele hooking up?

534380557
>multireplying
>reddit spacing

>>534380667
You are NEVER getting your Vessel back. That's the point of the game.

>>534380348
It runs on their bargain bin computers

>>534379960
i love him and i hope he gets all the pussy he wants.

>>534380729
right for the crit on the jugular.

The number one thing bogging this game down is the shitty love triangle that adds literally nothing to the narrative and only incites people jerking themselves off to who becomes the self-insert MC’s fuckmeat in the end

i like pg-13 deltarune

KRIS MUST RAPE NOELLE

>>534380508
Susie is too fucking stupid to realize that Kris could have stabbed her in the throat. She barely remembers bullying Kris, she's like a goldfish.

>>534380627
I do it’s true

>>534380729
if it were straight you wouldnt say you have problem with it

>>534380774
Considering how chapter 3 ends, people would assume that chapter 4 takes place in the shelter and you would be called a retard if you thought otherwise, just like Kris knight theory after the chapter 2 ending.

IK nobody probably cares but the deltarune pullover hoodie is apparently on sale on fangamer eu

has there been ANY information from toby after ch3/4 dropped?
it's been what? two months?

>>534380627
tis true

<3

>>534381017
If Alphys was a dude Alphyne would be NTR

>>534381062
noelles gonna twerk in chapter 6

>>534380285
We'll have a scene where they both apologize, Susie for the bullying and Kris for the betrayal.
It'll be touching, they'll finally hug like people have been waiting for.
And then they'll cry comically like Lanino and Elnina and Ralsei will do his "Okay" he always does when he thinks something strange and stupid has happened.

>>534381096
Cute Papyrus

>>534380627
one of my friends made my other friends abandon me and years later I discovered he grew up to become a benzos addict so good riddance

>>534380862
You don't understand the point of the game at all

>>534380627
to be fair, feeling lost and abandoned is a terrible feeling.

>>534380974
Don’t worry, she’ll get it eventually.

>>534380905
Its called building stakes. If Krusie happens too early it would be a boring story.

>>534380667
not until chapter 6 or something
>>534380627
not me!!!

>>534381062
He's just been dropping patches. He's working on 1.05 right now which is apparently changing up a lot of code drastically. Wait until the next newsletter which'll probably be in a couple months.

>>534381149
What if Undyne was the dude instead

>>534380789
What is conceptshit, anyway? Nice buzz word that backs up nothing of what you said. What, we're just going to piggy back off slang until the other person is lost? You can't present any logic, so you just try to derail until you can beat me down with your 'tarded, experience. Right. Anything useful to say? Or are you going to throw out middle-school grade psychology terminology you barely understand, until your heart gets sore? Aww, poor baby.

>>534380807
AHHH, HE'S SO REDDIT11!!1 REDDIT!111! Stupid fucking newfag. If you weren't just a sparse lurker, you'd know this meme only works in /v/, where the population immigrates on the daily. Half of it's twitter troons, and the other half MAGA-heads soaking their own red caps with semen over homosexual prejudice in video games. You're a literal nothing, just start digging into your wrist, twin.

kriselle will happen

>>534381159
soul correction therapy made noelle's perfect pink pussy and rotund ass act unwisely and outside of the jurisdiction of her own free will!

>>534380508
that's a look of "holy shit he's been LETTING me do that" if i've ever seen it

>people think fleshed-out direct romance is worse than “will they or won’t they” circlejerking
mmf

>>534381053
I wish I were still unemployed
I’d be able to wear a hoodies anymore more than once or twice a month

> > 534381397
oh, so you're trying to troll me
well, no proper (You) for you, have a nice day

>>534381320
I'm quite surprised Susie still had the ego to keep going after Kris after he 2-0'd her in Noelle's journal entry

Just finished painting Tenna over my apartment in wplace and someone has started putting up a Spamton

>>534380508
>Weirdly fast
>Sustained on a diet of sugar and moss
>Carries knife 24/7 and could kill school bully but takes it instead
>Throws juice at teacher during church
>Steals objects from every building, family friend, and acquaintance
>Aura farms for the audience
Kris is the funniest fuck in Hometown I don’t care what anyone says. I can’t get a read on them at all

My HERO Susie is ALWAYS right, and because she thinks Sans is a prick that means Susie > Sans.

>>534381563
>no rebuttal

Your submission is better than any amount of (you)s, any day. I hope you'll be able to enjoy the rest of the day, knowing you couldn't hold a single candle to my banter. A cuck, and a bitch.

Embarrassing!

Susie was right. Nobody cares about Kris, and everyone would be happier with him gone.

>>534381910
>Kaard’s juice thigh and arched back
Gay

>>534381729
love story in the making

>>534381910

>>534381563
>>534381980
you two should kiss

>>534381196
Cute is his default state.
I'mma slip back into lurk mode, shhh, have a good day/night.

>>534382094
annoying orange soul is the funniest shit ive seen

>>534382094
Because you were thinking it. I’m just helping you be more honest.

>>534382150
We'll kiss, and you can stuff your face in my asshole. It'll keep you from posting non-constructive bullshit like this response.

Total Togore death

>>534382313
that sequence...
that's the fucking freedom motif, isn't it?

>>534382259
yay!

>>534382036
ITS NOT GAYETH, I CHANGEDE THE RULES!!!

>>534382313

>>534382313
those stink lines should be on spamton

>>534382503
YOU’RE A FAGGOT
AND YOU
LIKE
MEEEEEEEEEEN

>>534382313
Now kill Chester too.

>>534382464
correct, enjoy your new cognitohazard

If noelle is trans and likes kris (male) is it gay?

>>534376075
pinkie pie works really well for her, I was already imagining her voice really similar but I couldn't place exactly what voice I was thinking of.

>>534382575

>>534382803
Its not a cognitohazard id you are the right type of autist.

>>534382873
Gonna go beat the shit out of that yellow punk for not listening to me. I played good money to play the game.

>>534383154
>played

Saw that. How about you play house, and start writing yourself up a job application like your daddy did.

I don't think Spamton was unaware that Tenna genuinely misses him.
I think part of why Spamton is so pissed off at Tenna, BECAUSE Tenna was so clingy and inconsiderate of Spamton's desire for freedom. Tenna asserting his control and trying to get Spamton's secret through a contract is exactly what led Spamton to loosing his benefactor and his [Freedom].
His whole [Broken home] speech in the weird route feels like he knew about Tenna's declining mental health. He'a venting about how Tenna never had his issues sorted out and will end up alone like he deeply feared BECAUSE of it. Because Spamton knows the prophecy too, he's definitely aware that Tenna does get worse leading to all the TV world darkners abandoning him.
Spamton in dealmaker/puppetscarf form likely knew that Tenna was being the fakest IDGAFer throughout ch3. He was probably pissed the whole time that Tenna says all these emotionally charged things while pretending they're logical business decision.
When he pops out during the Pipis scene he isn't 100% sincerely happy, it felt more like he was going "I told you so!" and about to rub it in his face, except that Tenna literally didn't recognize him.
Don't get me wrong, Spamton likely IS happy that Tenna does care afterall, but he's still mad the whole time Tenna constantly tried to push him under the rug and pretend he didn't care, publicly. Imagine this happened to you in real life you, would be pissed too.
I think what Spamton wanted in the past was for Tenna to actually open up to him and trust him. He might've been convinced by the "sweet talk" that Tenna was being sincere for once and showing a side of vulnerability, but that wasn't the case. Their relationship ended bitterly with both of them manipulating eachother and repressing their true feelings.

>>534378321
Roaring soon.
>>534379319
This
I think Toby is about to do a massive rug pull on the plot and he doesn't want anyone guessing that it's coming

Documenting the Pippinses strategize then collaborate to take down prey 2 times their size and strength and then watching as each of them eats a well deserved chunk from the hunt in animalistic fashion. No prep, just slicing bits out with their claws and then biting the chunks eagerly

>>534382808
noelle isn't trans, she's trains, she has autism

>>534381563
Tenna
>>534381980
Spamton
>>534382150
Rouxls

>>534373946
me

>>534380778
fat TV World Darkners huddling around Tenna in the studio den to survive the unplugged TV winter...

>finally acquire the last egg in the game
>it's a beherit
how would /omog/ react

>>534383950
>I think Toby is about to do a massive rug pull on the plot
chapter 1-2: what if objects had feelings in a fantasy world?
chapter 3: what if objects had feelings in a fantasy world and knew they were really just objects?
chapter 4: what if objects did all that and had cosmic knowledge?
chapter 5: ???
chapter 6-7: what if YOU were one of those objects?

>>534382575
they invented yaoi

crucified pippins...

Is (((Jackenstein))) supposed to be based on flash games or the Atari Haunted House game?

>>534384829
what's with the groomer-tricolor?

>>534384829
He died for your sin (gambling)

>>534384753
what character relationship dynamic trope is this?

>>534384753
God I wanna smooch that gyot

>>534384939
People can draw anything they want anywhere they want

>>534381396
/utg/ would be be spammed with plapjack edits

>>534385028
i am sorry to hear your dice is now associated with [[Cut Content]]

>>534384829
>they killed battat for being a tranny

>>534381563
Based

>>534385148
He's transmichael.

>>534384179
The whole conversation about pippins being predator animals did some weird shit to my brain. I don't know what exactly, but it did something.
I want to watch nature documentary esque footage of them hunting and tearing apart their prey and falling asleep with full bellies in a big pile afterwards.

Asgore and Toriel divorced over Togores abortion. Toby Fox waited until everyone paid $25 before revealing he's a pro life christcuck.

>>534385061
you gave me an idea for something really stupid

>>534385506
that is a sexy tv. artist?

"Gyaa Haa Ha" reminds me of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music somehow.

>>534385425
reminder that ralsei has canonically kissed more girls than you

>>534385506
Are you thinking what I'm thinking

>>534385630
he deserves it though.

>>534382094
this is the funniest shit I seen on this thread

>>534385471
>Of course not. I terminated yours. Don't you remember, you *poor* fuck? You poverty-stricken fuck?

>>534385630
cute girly guys always get more bitches then any other type of guy

>>534379319
>>534383950
Maybe the Knight, Papyrus, and Ralsei is supposed to meet Kris, Susie, and Asriel while in the roaring. And we wouldn’t recognize Papyrus and Asriel because of how different their dark world forms are from the light world. With Asriel wearing a cloak and Papyrus flat out just being a knight or a completely unexpected form.

There is a shot that Gaster, Sans, and Papyrus as a whole would have their bodies transform in the dark world because their bodies are objects, reanimated corpses, or something else. Like Gaster becomes a human or a cat. So it can apply for Sans and Papyrus, since Papyrus is wearing gloves (hiding the holes in his hands potentially).

Maybe Skeletons are made with the main purpose of controlling dark worlds to manipulate reality. And are puppet vessels much like the goners and our vessel.

>go to my hometown on wplace
>barely any deltarunes
>attempt to rectify the situation
>website crashes
what did i do to deserve this

>>534385471
pro-life is based until we bring eugenics into the mix

>>534385869
mmm thats right especially when they come out as transgirls us transgirls get the most bitches

>>534385260
It just sounds like hella fun to watch those little shits act like total freaks, so I get it. I would've watched the fuck out of every Pippinses documentary if they were real.
My mind is flooded with SO many questions about them and their behavior, like what are the most animal-like things they do?? What is their courting like? Their body language cues? What is their favorite type of prey? Are they able to also mobilize on all fours as well as they do on two feet? Aaaaa my head is overwhelmed from all the questions!

For any charafags of the dork persuasion, I made a green to try and excuse a scene of you two being cuddled by many cute catballs, hope you enjoy.
>Link
https://rentry.org/CharaScampussBlanket

The girl with hope crossed on her heart isn't Susie. Hope crossed means that there is a promise in our hearts. The only promise is the one between Dess and Kris. Dess or Kris is The Girl.

>>534385260

>>534386049
lesbians hate transgirls tf u talkin about

>>534385556
here you go
https://xcancel.com/dementialmaiden/status/1953307121690276295
>>534385672
...I think I am thinking what you're thinking, I will report back later.

>>534385953
DRAW THE GARMENT

I have a disturbing idea.
What if the sacrifices are arranged for multiple souls in mind. A one-to-one. So Dess isn’t the only thing they’re interested in reviving.

>>534386132
Thats like saying sans hates ketchup

Need homeless Susie to be confirmed real

/utg/, I have to go pee. :(

The Shelter has a Meat Grinder-Wish Granter situation methinks.

>>534385953
How does this work? I'm in Firefox and just see a white screen and some HUD things like "Paint", but nothing I interact with gets me to a map, and I'm already logged in. web.gl_disabled is already false in settings.

>>534386318
We can't pause anon km sorry.

>>534386149
IM FFUCING TRYING THE WEBSITE KEEPS BREAKING

>>534386294
She’s way more latchkey neglect coded than full homeless.

can we play jack box or gartic phone?

>>534386103
The heart is given to Susie by Kris at numerous occasions. It’s basically something like this.

>>534386294
sorry, bucko but we saw her room in ch3.

>>534386049
Good. T4F is the only normal porn I enjoy

kris dad

>>534386056
Pippin courting hell yeah! Their courting is kinda funny, they say a number (1 to 6) and spin their heads around, if they land on the number they said it's a success and their partner gets interested. They have to get it right 3 times (damn rng) to score a partner. Also since they're predators they would have some muscles? Not extremely beefy obviously but defined enough they can flex it a bit. (This is just an excuse so i can imagine battat flexing his arms or exposing his forearms to fujo lol) so having some meat on those dice bones helps courting!

>>534386470
But how else will we bribe her with sandwiches

Why did Toby remove this?
https://voca.ro/1UHqfJmkhH62

>>534386381
But I have to peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>534386378
the websites down right now, normally your supposed to get a map to place pixels on

THEY'RE FUCKING DICE
STOP BEING MIND BROKEN BY DICE

>>534386661
she is still des(s)titute, but not homeless.

>>534386667
because the berdly mating pressing queen cutscene wasnt appropriate for a switch release

>>534386667
>Queen after browsing too many feminist blogs

>>534385904
"all skeletons just become dark beings like the Knight" is a really cool theory

the knight can still be Dess and not literally Papyrus himself too... it's Dess's Skeleton.

heck maybe the machine in Sans's basement, originally made by Gaster is some sort of revival determination machine that skeletonizes humans and all the skeletons were formerly human

>>534386724
Pippinsfags have already admitted to shaking dice in their hand makes them horny.

>>534386724
the women here are not exactly mentally sound.

>>534386861
>it's Dess's Skeleton
monsters still turn into dust in deltarune, any skeleton she had would have disintegrated

>>534386318
>>534386676
Pics or it didn’t happen.

>>534386884
I shoved a king of spades card up my ass imagining it was King.

>>534386884
bitches be like
>"let's play dungeons and dragons"

Chapter 5 theory: Asriel doesn't come back because he would rather stay outside town getting human pussy, Kris kills themselves and stays dead for the rest of the game

Fave has rotting fingertips from that accident in the Himalayas.

>>534387084 nta
Simple solution for that....DESS WAS HUMAN

>>534380557
>necroing
holy reddit

>>534377773
>>534377894
It's a pure crack theory but a few things that make me feel like its possible is the whole MANCOUNTRY thing, and given that the prophecy is pretty terrible, Kris likely doesn't want that fate to happen to them or will take the fall which will backfire hard...

>>534387229
You could have just said the bus broke down

>>534385471
I wouldn’t mind because I’m like the only trans girl who opposes abortion. I feel rather alone and completely disillusioned with feminism.

>>534386056
Same!! I also like wondering about their anatomy, what their organs and skeleton look like (Would they have bones ..? Presumably yes? What's their skin even made of? Plastic?), how they would reproduce, if they'd be considered mammals or not.
I remember some anon saying they were making a Pippins anatomy chart at some point, but I don't know if they ever posted it. I'd consider making my own if I ever had the time, that shit's right up my alley.
>>534386131
Holy fucking shit. Nature truly IS beautiful.

>>534386131
NOOOOOOO

Surviving Dess

>>534387584
Dess will be deltarune's Flowey. She won't be savable

Digesting inside giantess Dess's 4-chambered cervine stomach

>>534386861
>>534387084
>>534387289
So what’s the connection between Dess and Papyrus? And why does he give you EGGs at every chapter? Did he abduct her or something? Or was Papyrus was an accident.

>>534387408
You’re just schizophrenic, and possibly want to fuck FemKris. Try jerking off before you post next time, and rid the thread of your inane babble.

https://files.catbox.moe/vv5y2u.mp4 https://x.com/eepykeepy/status/1953533581558485412
ralsei music video

>organs are rng based
>courting is rng based
>reproduction is rng based
being a pippin is suffering

>>534387786
That's what makes her perfect.

>We see Papyrus in the dark world.
>Instead of a grown and handsome stud, we get a boy around Ralsei’s age.
Would this be weirder than Cat Gaster?

>>534387863
*transfem Ralsei music video

>>534386534
>they say a number and spin their heads around, if they land on the number they said it's a success and their partner gets interested
Haha I love this!
>since they're predators they would have some muscles? Not extremely beefy obviously but defined enough they can flex it a bit
Oh I agree, gotta have some level of muscle from all those hunts and running around, gotta have a way to show your potential partner you're healthy, after all!
I would also like to add the idea of another courting tactic to kinda tie in with this last idea being that they may also spin their head around for as long as they possibly can. The idea being that the more strength in their arms, the better the roll and the longer it will last.
>>534386131
Holy shit, the conservationists really gotta step up their game considering how much the pippinses like to hunt that particular species of prey, which is endangered.
>>534387450
Yeah I don't think that anon ever posted their take on pippins anatomy.
>I'd consider making my own if I ever had the time
You really should if you get the time! I'd love to see an anatomy chart.

>>534387819
real Kris sissies (krissies) want to BE fucked by they/them Kris

>>534386131
incredible

>>534388072
papyrus is still a grown man in deltarune

>>534388072
He's probably about Asriel's age, especially if he really was just at college with him.

>>534388138
>Yeah I don't think that anon ever posted their take on pippins anatomy.
i'm working on it. breaking my head if i should make it more surface level or go in deep with which organs they have and shit

>>534388189
The way Papyrus acts and how Gaster actually is (cat and puppet) makes me doubt it. If Tenna can become smaller and bigger in the dark world by how he views himself, then Papyrus could probably end up that way too by how he views himself.

Undertale 10th anniversary concert merch https://twitter.com/FangamerJP/status/1953652394853904816/

>>534388443
Oh my bad, I had no idea you were still working on it. My post was by no means any way to try and rush you.
>breaking my head if i should make it more surface level or go in deep
Why not start simple first and then expand upon it later to not overwhelm yourself? Choose whatever you like best though.

>>534387786
my sooz
i love this tomboy idiot

>>534388683
>papyrus next to not one but TWO trees
WELL. THERE IS A MAN HERE.

>>534388683
oh so its fucking nothing
great

>>534388679
tenna's a darkner
lightners are consistent in not having any physical changes beyond color, not even their hairstyles change

>>534388683
I want the tote bag and the stickers

Imagine if you could bring the strange sword to CH1 and outright kill Lancer, making it that Susie never gets her true first friend and stays an angry loser the whole game

>>534388865
Dude, the Knight is Dess the skeleton. And she warps herself far more constantly.

>>534382808
uoooh impregnate kris.

>>534388683
Note that Papyrus is the only character in the picture playing an instrument with strings

>>534388683
>Official pamphlet for the “UNDERTALE 10th Anniversary Concert.” It includes a Q&A with developer Toby Fox and director Kota Kawai, as well as the concert set list, original manga, and much more.
Hmm.

>>534388138
>I would also like to add the idea of another courting tactic to kinda tie in with this last idea being that they may also spin their head around for as long as they possibly can. The idea being that the more strength in their arms, the better the roll and the longer it will last.
Like an endurance test, nice.

>>534388764
Do Japanese artists like Pippins because they're little chibi dudes obsessed with gambling

>>534386525
The darkworld design kind of rules actually

>>534387819
The hell? I feel like it COULD be possible but its unlikely, hinging mostly on the gloves.

>>534389290
he pulls the strings and makes them ring lmao how didnt noticed this

>>534389290
Oh Papyrus, the son of the Roaring Knight. Only a cool mother can make a cool dude like you.

When will this man freak us out in Deltarune?

These pippins are PISSing me off.
I gotta post viro ASS to cool off

>>534389537
No. You’re just a schizophrenic. Toby is never, I repeat NEVER, going to give the protagonist humans official genders. Get that through your thick skull, and quit spamming your dumb theory.

>>534389694
Imagine those cheeks completely smothering your cock...

>>534389660
Why does this funny skull boy have so many connections with the missing Christmas girl?

>>534389851
Then she rips a massive fart right on your dick. My balls would empty immediately.

>>534386525
This dude is actually blind, walking stick and all.

>>534389897
don't look at Dess's closet door

>>534389847
Personally didn't come up with it but I don't see why it'd be so bad if it were used to explain a lot of Kris's identity struggles and that the best thing for them would be rejecting that prophecy role.

>>534389897
EVEN NAMES SOUND SIMILAR
PAPYRUS
DESS
PAPYDESS

>>534389306
>original manga
THE KICKSTARTER COMICS

I will KILL Kris when I get my Vessel.

>>534390106
Quit lying. And you’re genuinely braindead if you don’t know why that’s a bad idea. You’re begging for more needle cookies.

>>534333739
i watched catalogue and even reloaded it a couple of times it was empty ToT

>>534389998
>>534390165
Looks like Asriel had an accident. And Sans picked him up and said “you’re my little brother” as a cover story.

>>534390326
Bad idea because... I can't self insert as Kris as a boy or...? I mean if its done correctly it could be really good.

>>534390165
>>534390390
honestly I think Papyrus was in their band (probably as the drummer), and he got turned into a goner when he sacrificed himself to save Kris during the incident where Dess went missing

>>534389851
Im a pro at imagining viro plaps

>>534390173
No, it's likely related to the concert.

>>534386056
>What is their favorite type of prey?
I think TV World pippinses would be more "domesticated" due to the setting they're in, they'd probably live mostly off of TV dinners and would do a lot less hunting live prey. There's really not a whole lot of things that seem very huntable there anyway, and I doubt Tenna would be too happy if they started eating all his other employees. Maybe Ribbick, but those really don't seem too appetizing.
I think they'd still definitely get the urge though, and they seem like the type to hunt just for the thrill of it.
Card Kingdom pippinses are much more feral and would probably eat most of the other types of darkners in that dark world, given they're hunting in a group or the prey is small enough for them to take on their own. I don't think they'd have a universal favorite thing to hunt, it'd depend on the individual. Like everything else about them it's probably rng lol.

>>534390493
i want viro to sit on noelles face

>>534387903
it's kind of like that in real life too if you think about it.

>>534390493
>m.jpg
curse you!

Why are you guys talking about Pippins like it's a wild animal

>>534374123
>be normal.
Quite ironic considering who this is

>>534390639
She got infected and became something more

>>534390730
I guess anons saw them all raiding the Bonus Room and thought they'd also do that to prey animals? Thought experiment I guess.

>>534390473
>Don’t forget, I’m with you in the dark.

>>534390470
Because his fans are fucking insane, dumbass. Are you actually retarded? Do you not see how they numb down everyone’s throat for misgendering Kris, and forcing everybody to acknowledge Kris as nonbinary? Were you living under a rock when an actual Spamton tranny got Save a Fox to kill herself? Are you pretending to be this stupid, and not see the forest for the trees, or did your dad drop you on your head as a baby? Toby giving Kris any gender at this point would create a massive backlash he could never recover from, and some of his fans might even try to kill or ruin him over it. Do you understand yet?

>>534390725
I dont get it.
Before they added the m.jpg png etc, phone downloads worked just like desktop saves.
I dont know why they changed it.
zero sense.
its not like im saving the thumbnail

>>534378976
She's a girl. They aren't expected to do shit about bullying.

Besides, Kris can clearly take it.

>>534389979
How many fucking fartfags are in these threads? I know there's at least like 3 of us.

papyrus wont be important

>>534391048
I'm into the other two bathroom things too, it's just that farting is the most acceptable one.

>When the light is running low and the shadows start to grow
>And the places that you know seem like fantasy
>There's a light inside your soul
>That's still shining in the cold with the truth
>The promise in our hearts
>Don't forget, I'm with you in the dark
Just imagine.

>>534381894
Autism + being coddled by parents and friends.

Seriously, Asriel and Noelle had the patience of a saint.

all the pippins have a scottish accent just like my favorite hobbitses

>>534391228
the green one is matpat though

I still do not understand this form of shitposting

I hope Papyrus appears just to immediately get killed.

>>534391225
>>534381894
If kris existed in real life, they would have become a school shooter

>>534391130
>Not too important, not too unimportant
Papyrus… what are you?

>>534390935
anon pretty sure they're saying they embraced being they/them over the prophecy and kris was just AFAB
kinda retarded though

>>534391185

>>534391272
which form of shitposting in particular are you referring to

>>534391414
Nah. He's too pathetic to actually shoot up a school. Best he can do is off himself.

Noelle on the other hand...

>>534391569
the guy acting as obnoxious as possible while spamming braindead Papyrus posts, same as last night

>>534391553
Only inside clothing or in a toilet, dw. I'm not one of those piss drinkers or shit eaters, relax.

>>534391621
>Noelle on the other hand...
......oh no

>>534391673
What makes them braindead? Sans has a weird pal named Gaster that is the basis for the majority of theories. Including him being Mike the cat.

>>534374559
Kind of have the urge to write a green based off of this.
Goddamn.

>>534391525
The point is that Toby will never confirm anything. Saying that Kris is the girl when that’s clearly not the case is even more stupid, since it would be confirmation of Kris being a girl, and Toby is too chickenshit to do anything of the sort.

How plump can we get Noelle?
Would it mostly gather on her tits and ass haha?

>>534391713
for now

https://youtu.be/V6z2X8JMX0A
is that the fucking freedom motif

>>534391927
With Toby, he probably wants a gender neutral character for the fanon material.

>>534391997
Even the thought of eating my gf's pussy grosses me out, I think I'm far, far off from advancing to coprophagia.

>>534392024
When does it happen?
>>534392090
You are a based man.

Kris was pretty passionate about piano, so why didn't Toriel and Asgore at least ever get him a keyboard piano? A cheap one is only like 50 bucks.

>>534392024
No anon, you're just schizophrenic again.

>>534392090
you're a terrible bf
and the huge asshole to fart to scat pipeline is inevitable

>>534392047
I think it’s because he’s a coward who can’t make up his mind.

>>534381271
No it's not, I grew up completely fine.

>>534392182
The holiday’s piano bro

>>534392278
I know he would get over there to play for hours, but why not get him something of his own? That's what I would do if I was Kris's mom.

>>534392368
The dreemurs and holidays seemed to be operating as one big family unit before dess imploded

Calling Kris by he/him pronouns is like calling Aaron by she/her pronouns.

You know the Holidays are fucking stinking rich because they have an actual piano
No one even plays the damn thing anymore

>>534392461
OMORI

>>534392090
if she sucks your dick then that's kind of unfair

>>534392461
Maybe it’s because of… babies.

>>534391909
do it

>>534392182
Asgore couldn't afford it, because Toriel divorced him, took the house, the car, all his money, and now he is living on fucking freep pickles.

Toriel just doesn't give a shit about Kris as a person. She only cares about having a "human chld".

>>534392489
Hey, that's the guy with the thicc daughter who killed warlords!

Is it me or did the Tenna brain toxins hit hard today in specific?
Really wanted to color these but I'm freaking exhausted, damn it

https://litter.catbox.moe/eaodc08n0vqfr5nj.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/sfijkysxriwoirjv.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/ywxot478ueggwdcf.png

>>534392601
Do you think they are ever going to explain how kris ended up adopted?

>>534392090
but her shit particles dont?

>>534392541
HOMOri.

>>534392618
Yummers

>>534392690
No. I don't think so.

>>534392249
Do you want people to play as a lesbian?

>>534392618
UOOOOHGHGGHGHHHHHHHHH
ITS ALL OVER THE SCREEN

>explore my area on Wplace
>Undertale and Deltarune sprites (obviously)
>Alien Hominid
>Hotline Miami
>Hylics
>Petz
>fucking Dynamite Headdy
what the fuck my area rules

>>534392867
if the lesbian is fem kris?

Yes.

if the lesbian is Noelle?

No.

Chapter 5 egg room area will have a hint that combined with the Chapter 2 "room between" hint tells you how to enter the egg rooms because otherwise figuring it out requires either an internet connection or whatever amount of mental illness leads someone to try the back and forth between rooms over and over solution

>>534390730
something wrong with us

>>534392182
They prefer a real piano. Kris autistic about that.

>>534392489
Higher power, my ass.

Just found a DR-characters-as-UT-roles AU where Spamton is in Mettaton's place and Tenna is in Burgerpants's.

>>534392921
WHAT'S ALL OVER THE SCREEN?

>>534379140
Just because I like the game, does not mean I have to agree with their lifestyle. Nor does it mean I have to live their lifestyle.

Devious Doe

do any of you niggas live near garden grove

They should update Undertale to allow you to murder Noelle, Dess, and Suzy during a genocide run.

>>534393208
Anon don't dox yourself...

I want Pippins ass in my face..

Did player angel theory survive the new chapters?

>>534393208
i live near olive garden

>>534393275
They should update Undertale to allow you to get laid for once in your life, anon.

>>534393153
It's his punishment for being a problem customer to waiter Pizzapants in another life.

>>534393208
you live in a place called garden grove? are you a fucking gnome????

>>534393370
Yes.

>>534393365
how are the olives

>>534393194
She up to no good!

>>534393362
Well, people still have 100+ post arguments about it. It's in the running or it has a group of particularly mentally ill adherents

Who should I do next? Kris fits the tower because of its association with great change and upheaval.
Was thinking about making one for Noelle the Raped. Give me suggestions

>>534390730
Because it's fun, and there isn't a better type of character to imagine like that

>>534393457
He is indeed Keemstar.

>>534379756
Vessel is the true hero, and he was robbed of an adventure.

>>534393457
aw I wish I was a cute little gnome living in a garden with my ladybug and frog friends, I'd sunbathe on lilypads and make tea out of morning dew drops

>>534393539
When did the Dess /ss/ theories start?

>>534393319
dont worry, I just chose a random location in the state I live in

>>534392182
They had a perfectly good grand piano to play at Noelle's house

>>534393549
Anyone from the Holiday family would make good candidates for The Hanged Man

>>534393636
They aren't theories. People just started back in 2021 i think just doing that

>>534393326
kansai-ben speaking pippins my beloveds

>>534393208
is your house shaped like a whimsical toadstool

>>534393496
I'm not sure, I don't talk with them much

>>534393868
>>534393457
Yes Im a gnome. How did you know. I often go to his >>534393365 place so to steal his olives

>>534380030
Undertale,Yes. It creates a new file for when the first neutral ending is reached that the game checks to see if True Pacifist Content can be done. Definitely designed for multiple playthroughs.
I'm just wondering when that idea will come back for Deltarune. Because I really don't want to find out that I get screwed for not recruiting everything.

Notice this. After you get the key, you have to walk back to the bishop and the knight to reach the exit.

>>534381396
I might actually have liked it.

>>534393546
If that whole "the angel prophecy is black to reflect the player" shit actually ends up being intentional, i'll never doubt theorists again.

>>534380030
I've played it multiple times because I like re-experiencing it or looking for things I didn't find myself yet.
I just recently finished two Chapter 1-4 pacifist saves (normal and snowgrave) with all the crystals and eggs to get ready for when Chapter 5 comes out, so I probably won't replay it again for a while at this point.

>>534394150
I've seen a few variations of the Jackenstein map theory, but this one looks the most concise.

>>534381245
What even is the point of the game anymore? That you should just accept being treated like shit by the game? That you should turn off your eyes when something dangerous happens right in front of you and not tell anyone?

>>534394201
15 year old Toby definitely thinks that trick is cool

>>534393539
Why did BPDess try to sacrifice Kris to Friend? What was her plan?

>>534394150
Why is a flower there? We never encountered anything resembling a flower before.

>>534380862
That would be incredibly stupid. Why does every other character deserve their freedom but me?

bruh

>>534393827
Ultimate surrender and sacrifice. Dess and Noelle fit, But what about Rudy and Carol

Torturing fave with mundane design choices, such as electrical outlets that are too far from their bedside so they can’t use their phone from bed

what if it was all a dream

>>534392690
Yes. Absolutely.

>>534394521
flower king.
its asgore you cutie pie.
The blade however....

>>534394521
Asgore / Flower King / Flower Man

>>534394547
Because you're not of this world. You've invaded them and brought chaos to their peaceful lives. You're a parasite. You don't deserve freedom. You're evil for literally just playing the game.

>>534394521
That's chapter 5, the next dark world is Asgore's flower shop. There are already leaks about Asgore being a boss in chapter 5, too.

[[OCEAN MAN]]
Take me by the [Hand]

>>534394502
Power? Wealth? Enlightenment? The glory of Moloch? What would YOU sacrifice a child to the abyss for if you could get away with it?

>>534394670
i used to read word up magazine

>>534394857
>Stop playing
>world gets covered in darkness.

would dess have liked flowey?

>>534394150
Oh. The knife is Kris
We make Noelle kill Kris.

>>534394502
Was her original target Asriel, or was it always Kris?

>>534395001
>Dess sacrificed Kris because she thought Epstein was cool

>>534394502
Pretty stupid thing but could VERY easily happen if FRIEND threatened to take Noelle if it didn't get what it wanted

>>534394598
for Carol it's the stagnation, how the life of her family is frozen in time from whatever it was that happened and whatever she may be doing in regards to Dess, Noelle, and Rudy to try and correct it. like some kinda snewgraev

>>534395264
I bet she smells crazy~

>>534395167
nobody likes Flowey

>>534395418
Probably smells like weed and incense

>>534394857
That's retarded. And a surefire way to get your customer to not want to play the game.

>>534395167
Nah. She can tell that it's still Asriel.

Also Flowey probably murdered the UT version of her, Noelle, and Carol several times.

>>534395001
If the kid looked up to me like Kris did to her, hell no. And why would she need money when she’s already rich?

>everyone that likes undertale is also from Arizona
Why do so many nerds live in my state

>>534395479
Fucking my fist rn thinking about it

>>534395001
>What would YOU sacrifice a child to the abyss for if you could get away with it?
A world-famous cheese store yumyum

>>534395264
Always Kris. Asriel is easy to manipulate, but never comes throuh when it really matters.

>>534395418
* Smells like pine trees and peppermint.

>>534394547
don't you already have your freedom?
beyond what any of them could ever have?

>>534395665
i came....

>>534395592 NTA
Thats an interesting way to say jerking it. I'll have to use that one. Thanks for telling me that phrase is a thing.

>>534395665
Peppermint and cinnamon sticks mixed with heavy weed stank

>>534395324
I doubt it. This is the face of psychotic self satisfaction, not the face of someone doing something horrible to protect her little sister.

>>534395698
No. I didnt approve of warping the prophecy to suit Susie's agenda . Nor did I approve of my adventure being stolen.

oosi

>>534395946
I like how the Knight does this same kind of eye thing sometimes.

>>534395469
hey! I like flowey

>>534396063
Literally psychopath eyes.

>>534395946
She says she's sorry though.

>>534395264
is there a sequel to this?

>>534395548
It almost certainly wasn't about money. Probably more like >>534395324, or something else than isn't material.
>>534395946
That absolutely looks like someone throwing Kris in the place of Noelle to take a bullet.

>>534396214
where does this leave cuptains

>>534396287
Not yet. Maybe soon. Here’s the full.

>>534394780
>>534394783
>>534394867
>Chapter 1: escapism through games
>Chapter 2: escapism through religious
>Chapter 3: escapism through medis and television
>Chapter 4: escapism through religion
>Chapter 5: Escapism through.... uhhhhh, Flowers?
I don't know man, just doesn't fit the rest of the game to me. That being said, asgore having sudden relevance in chapter 4 implies toby is trying to set something up for later, but what that is I don't know.

>>534395946
>something horrible
But anon - the prophecy has a human hero! Which means Kris will be fine if they’re fed to a demon whatever because they still need to complete the prophecy. So it’s OK!

>>534396214
Interesting, thanks Japan.
Something about blacked out sanpaku eyes...

>>534395946
>im sorry Kris… i must le sacrifice you…
>proceeds to fuck it up and get gonered like a dumbass

Nice plan Dess

>>534396446
Source?

>>534396459
>Chapter 2:escapism through the Internet*
I'm tired

>>534396446
I want to see more of this dess. Want to see more of her psyche. Hope theres a sequel soon

This kills the Doe(Hoe)
https://youtu.be/alT726khFY0

>>534396643
nah you got it the first time

>>534396459
Someone else pointed it out before but Asgore’s shop/house is full of those lameass superhero comics Alphys gave him. That + his “everyone will see I was right” (paraphrased) scheme muttering means Asgore is gonna fixer hero delusionmaxx in front of the whole town.
>What will the flowers represent?
Hostages (“a captive audience”) to Asgore’s hero fantasy

>>534396306
I’m not seeing it. Like I said before, those are the eyes of a psychopathic killer. It’s genuinely possible that she did it because of her BPD, because the nickname isn’t a joke, and the artist genuinely writes her as being bipolar.

Toriel is The Girl
the prophecy is about her finding love for Asgore again

>>534396459
>>534396643
Asgore has comic books and is called a super hero by Alphys. And he talks to his flowers.

If Dess did have BPD, this story would be WAY more fucked up

>>534396019
The idea of there being a scene where Susie just walks up to the camera and says "I luv yu." is so funny.

>>534396459
>Chapter 5: Escapism through.... uhhhhh, Flowers?
Asgore has hinted in Chapter 2 that he vents out his frustrations and insecurities to his flowers (and funnily enough he tells Sans of all people this). Knowing how unstable flowers are from UT and how the subconsciousness of lightners shape darkners and dark worlds, Chapter 5 has the potential to be one wild ride.

post cute spamtenna

>>534396459
Asgore becomes Flower-Man and tries to relive his glory days as police chief. Escapism through capeshit and also probably conspiracies since that’s his whole thing right now

>>534392693
Well I mean, I don't want them in my mouth either. Just in my nose pretty please.

>>534396878
It would make me "suh-sooooz" just as much

>>534396682
https://x.com/bakedbananners1/status/1944744079851466932
There’s a few more pics of this Dess too.

>>534396889
>Asgore trauma dumping in front of Susie/Ralsei
Kris is forced to see the cringiest shit. Someone (me) should put them down

>>534396731
>Hostages
I feel like the flowers would be mutual partners to asgore considering he talks to them about his life and uses them as the centerpieces of his shop. That, and they were from the bouquet at him and toriel's wedding.

>>534396731
>>534396459
>>534396731
Asgore has comic books and investigation boards.so expect to see an investigator Darkner, who is likely the cowboy himself.

>>534397041
>mutual partners
If they were potted? Yes. They’re preserved and sealed in glass cases and owned by someone with no visitors. They are in hell

>>534396731
>fixer hero delusionmaxx in front of the whole town.
He could be set up for a Don Quixote tier meltdown. Christ, Chapter 5 will be a test of Kris's will to not kill themself

>>534397000
this dess is just awful

>>534397000

>>534397030
Susie already bottomed out her respect of Toriel and now she's gonna bottom out on respect for Asgore, while also knowing prophecy shit she shouldn't know. Needs a hug.

>>534397178
I hope he goes through with it on the weird route.

>>534397206
dess wasnt really the greatest person

>>534395765
no prob.
may you subjugate your hand king

>>534397206
>>534397202
She really is.

>>534397000
>>534397206
One of the more fucked up versions of this backstory

escapism is BAD
(because there are no good vr headsets yet)

>>534397328
Asriel is forever doomed to be surrounded by women that are just good for him.

>>534397256
>Noelle freezes Asgore Quixote
Fuck...

>>534397000
>>534397206
This is the kind of Dess that feels like the rich girl that is so bored she wants make people do shit they shouldn't for laughs.

Putting both of my hands under Asgore's beard to gently hold his head and slowly caress his cheeks with my thumbs as I watch his eyelids grow heavy due to relaxation. Watching something called "Mew Mew Kissy Cutie 2" with Asgore at the recommendation of his friend Alphys and trying hard to pretend that I'm enjoying it for his sake since he seems to have really taken a shine to it. Walking downstairs to change out the laundry when I find myself alone with Carol Holiday who is currently looking at Asgore's conspiracy collage (relocated here from Flower King after we moved in together) with her back to me, luckily after some extremely awkward and minor inquisition into the purpose of her visit to my basement he overhears our conversation and comes down to join us in the now-cramped space as well (along with thankfully cutting the tension in the air)

>>534397417
Are just good for him?
What do you mean “good”?

>>534397248
...Susie had respect for Asgore?

>>534397370
But she really loved Noelle.

>>534397543
Mostly in a "he's kris's dad" sense, but seeing him be the most divorced man in history multiple days in a row... yeah the respect is probably pretty lowish already.

>>534397496
I meant to write "no good" but forgot the "no".

>>534396893

>>534397568
>bad influence
>asshole manipulator
>child sacrificer
I dont like this dess

>>534397174
>no visitors
He has customers. There are several npcs around his shop each chapter, but it's usually closed most have the time.

>Chapter 6 POV: you have to fight December without her Knight armor.

>>534397000
>>534397206
>>534397370
>>534397568
At least this Dess isn't a kid toucher....

>>534397763
yeah she prefers to sacrifice children instead

>>534397543
By virtue of being Kris’ dad, yes. Also Asgore doesn’t pester her it seems

I ooze for the sooz

>>534397568
>>534397474
I kind of like the idea of Dess being a bad and toxic person that still cares about Noelle and is close to Kris.

>>534397780
Dad Tenna fills me with so much joy

>>534397568

>>534397691
:’(

>>534397780
>>534397870

>>534397872
well at least theres one thing redeemable about her

>>534397697
I can fix her.

>>534384923
Both

>>534397870
>still no spamtenna fankids
I overestimated this fandom

>>534397780
It's so amusing how the song Static is basically just a Tenna theme song lyric wise before Chapter 3+4 came out like a week or so later.

>>534397856
Kris looks up to her, but she genuinely doesn’t care for the kid outside of being an interesting toy or tool for her.

>>534397834
To save her sister

>>534398008
>still no spamtenna fankids
What do you mean? I've seen several posted in the thread for a few days straight

>>534398008

>>534397747
No way this is real.

>>534397953

>>534398036
That’s how you know Tenna was gonna be a big hit. Shit was backflowing into the collective unconsciousness

>>534397763
she totally would if the idea occurred to her
if she tried to fuck asriel, he turned her down, she wanted to get back at him, and kris happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time

>>534397981
Please don't, FRIEND is still hungry.

>>534397953
And then Spoken For releases and it's a perfect Spamton AND Kris song.

>>534398074
>Dude what if [OLDER SIBLING] was like Eddy's brother
oh my GOOOOOOD NOT AGAIN

>>534398092
Does this LOOK LIKE THE FACE OF SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING HORRIBLE TO PROTECT HER LITTLE SISTER >>534395946
LOOK AT THE EYES

>>534398092
You know what they say about assuming, anon.

spamton’s rapid heartbeat because he’s small, even when he’s trying to rest

>>534398092
You know what they say about assuming, anon.

>>534398074
I really hope that ends up being canon...

>>534398258
>>534398287
You scare me.

>>534398191
He can eat canned tuna if he stops being evil and acts like a normal kitty.

>>534398191
I wanna pet that FRIEND

>>534398128
>i am never babysitting kids again
Lucky for him, he ended up having a little rascal of his own later on that he gets no rest from since it's his responsibility as their dad!

>>534398191
>"Look, Dess. If you want more children to sacrifice. I know a way."
>"It will take a few months though."

>>534398110
>>534398113
I stand corrected. Weird I never saw any.

>>534398258
>>534398258
It makes an ASS out of U and MING!

>>534398036
>>534398152
>>534398203
Spoken For ended up being Kris' song with the Soul's control

>>534397981
No, Asriel. You can’t.

>>534398369
if you tempt FRIEND with enough foxtails he will give you free revive mints

>>534398436
A free cat. A jackpot from the cat distribution system

>>534398487
It really is the perfect Kris song.
They could be a sinner, they could be a saint...

can I interest you in some mike cannibalism gore

>>534392618
>404 Not Found
It’s over….

Chapter 5 will feature Asgore's seven flower waifu harem.

>>534398157
Kris would fight back, not happening.

>>534398669
Tenna and Static Miku should start a power hour

>>534398725
What would it even be called because a drawfag should draw it

>>534397872
What does it matter if she loves Noelle if she can’t extend that kindness towards the kid she practically grew up alongside?

>>534398584
Sigh, this happened again? I'm gonna have to start putting my stuff in the normal catbox, do you want me to reupload?

>>534398681
>"Dess... I really don't like this."
>"Oh come on, It will start feeling really good."
>"Besides, you are a grown up boy. Don't tell me you never though about it."

>>534398681
Dess is stronger. The age gap is big enough for gender to not matter.

>>534398796
>>534398725

>>534398817
You mean the brat that's been terrorizing her sister all her life? The one that clearly enjoys msking even Asriel suffer?

>>534398950
>Song is about how no one watches her anymore
>10M+ fresh new eyes
Must be so overwhelmed

From the artist
>I hc that mainly her issues stem from being a spoiled only child who had to become the second favorite to Noelle (perfect daughter) and also being bipolar. Someone who has no guidance and no aspirations, but loves her sister very much. She takes a lot of it out on Kris bc they look up to her so much and she’s not responsible for them

>You're so fucking smart, Noelle.
>You could be whatever you want.
>Try making some video games or something!
ohhh.... noelle is just like me....
I should really go to bed it's almost 1:30 am.

How do characters experience save states in-universe. Do we enter a new timeline every time die, or do we go back in time in one timeline so the only outcome the characters in the game actually experience is the one where we win?

>>534398191
So damn ugly

>>534398579
I gotta go to bed but it's good stuff

>>534398987
Noelle liked it deep down, and would really be upset if Kris stopped. And everyone enjoys making Azzy suffer.

>>534399061
I could see this. I mean, her being bipolar is a stretch. But her being spoiled yet also second to Noelle as mommy's favorite is pretty easy to imagine.

>>534399054

>>534399326
>Liked it
Sounds like stockholm syndrome

>And everyone enjoys making Azzy suffer
Eh, catty and bratty seemed to threat him alright.

I want the knight to send me to her rape dungeon in the shelter!

>>534399242
The timeline you reloaded from stops existing entirely as it literally doesn't exist in your save file's data.

>>534399242
I mean it's probably the same case as Undertale where only Sans knows/feels when saving and loading happens.

>>534397872
Actually, nothing bad happened at all!

>>534398614
Could chapter 5 be foreshadowing the dark world’s connection to the after life?
With Card castle having no references to it. Cyber world being the first to showcase a lightner almost dying in it. Chapter 3 being more blunt about the undead theming (the creepy Knight background that looks utterly dead) and the knight being a skeleton figure (undead). Chapter 4 being the church dark world featuring heavenly imagery, a dead lightner that once preached about coming to the next life.

Maybe chapter 5 will be the dark world in which Asgore dies and we see a Darkner take him up to a higher plain, and without our control, Kris runs after him to the pit, screaming! And then Susie and Ralsei save him from falling down the pit.

Be honest, anon... you'd LOVE it if she did this to you...

https://files.catbox.moe/j7une2.png

>>534399513
Even if it's a old hag like Carol?

>>534399587
I dunno if Toby would be so blatant to copy something from Mother 3 that directly, especially when he very much knows that tons of people have played it through the fan translation.

>>534399616
dolphin porn do not open

>>534399585
Everything is going to be okay.

>>534396893

>>534399668
>They're the same picture

>>534399697
Toby copied twin peaks blatantly.
You’re saying this because Asgore dying is the last thing you’ve expected and desired to see.

>>534399708
It's not... huh?

Goodnight gote

>>534399870
I wouldn't call it blatant but he used it as a framework while building his own story on top of it.

>>534399581
everyone feels deja vu from resets
sans knows that timeline resets are a thing that will happen, which combined with deja vu and him apparently being good at reading expressions makes him quite accurate at guessing what you've done in past timelines
he doesn't have any special ability to do so, that's always been headcanon from secondaries and speed readers

>>534398487
Spoken For is obviously a Ralsei song rather than a Kris song and I'm tired of pretending otherwise

>>534400265
That Static is basically "the Tenna song" before 3+4 even released and Spoken For is the "Kris, Ralsei and Spamton song", someone on the Flavor Foley crew is 100% a Deltarune person.

>>534400083
So what’s the problem with Asgore dying when this kind of scene is happening?

>>534398876
>>534398912
Fighting back could be as simple as biting and crying for help. Asgore would give her a new hole in her head over it

>>534399242
thought about this today and how when you die for the first time it says "YOU HAVE REACHED AN END"
does this mean that, if you looked at a massive tree representation of every timeline in deltarune, there's an "ending" for every single possible fight or way to die in the game?

Just where did Tenna being the dad of static Miku came from

>>534400432
I wouldn't mind it happening at all, but it should just look different to the Mother 3 scene at least.

>>534400456
static miku is the perfect blend of tenna and spamton, and since they had a pipis (---> O) canonically....

>>534399571
So the second option. The only thing the characters experience is the outcome where you win. Seems kind of op to get infinite tries. No wonder kris puts us back in.

>>534397174
In sword route, The trident monster goes ballistic if you kill one of the flowers, while the flowers stop existing entirely if you kill the monster first. If this is referencing chapter 5, this implies asgore and the flowers are mutual, or at the very least the flowers depend on him to live.

>>534400450
Close. Remember, there's only one ending. The world being covered in darkness.

>>534399585
>>534399732
I don’t trust this.

>>534400310
>You should be thankful for me Kris, I made you erase your 3.12 pentabytes of sissyphication porn.

>>534400456
Because they're basically the same character, so people made it that Tenna is her dad.

>>534400446
Dess would probably lure him to.her room before doing anything.

>>534400675
>lure him
Or her. Let's not discriminate

Need more good Desses to cleanse my pallet of the horrible BPD bitch. Dess betraying Kris’ trust and trying to sacrifice him genuinely leaves me with a pit in my stomach.

>>534400550
Why wouldn’t it be different. Asgore used to carry the flowers and now they will carry him. Susie and Ralsei would be right there witnessing the whole thing. Nothing we can do will stop Kris from running after him. It’s completely powerless. And our understandings of the dark world are completely changed.

>>534400801
Dess bieng morally spott makes the narrative clearer to me, because It's hard to believe a good natured dess would turn into an evil knight that wants to destroy the world.