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#6544 - Ramiel and Duel Master's Light Civilization had an Xenophobic FLIP Pendulum baby edition

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poopulums

This is just Qli again
REAL ORIGINAL KONAMI

>>534413036
Lunalight isn't a Pendulum deck, all but 2 cards are non-Pendulums. That's why they interact with the GY

heck a hands

>>534413254
Yuya have ton of cards that recover from GY, and DD fuse shit from field and GY on top of recovery.

Isn't that uncommon, just a bit superfluous aside DDD because every other pend deck lack archetype ED.

>>534413638
Motherfucker you just pointed out 2 more decks that have a lot of non-Pendulums in them

>>534413638
Unless you actually want summon Zarc.

PEND BEST DECK
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

Any pend decks with a pend boss monster?

Even if Yuya.dek starts getting good support now, it will never catch up with D/D because it’s already too late in the race

He's the reason why Pendulum turn into Counter: the card type
Say thank you
I'm surprise they did not turn Alien into Pendulum card yet

>diapercord crying because it didnt get its diaper synchro shit
Enneacraft is fucking soulful

>>534414015
see >>534414041

>>534414015
majespecter.

>Last Pendulum decks that care about Pend summoning are Abyss Actors and Solfachords
Bleak

>>534414203
Pretty sure DDD pend summon twice in their combo lines

Support WHEN?

>>534414203
DD still need pends to get job done and bright Armageddon is main protection, not to mention that Machinex succ effect is great.

Monarch Yosenju Abyss Actor cross-support, take it or leave it

>>534412975 (OP)
>Half of the archetype shares this same exact text that covers 90% of the text box space
The yugioh player deserves to be mocked by the clueless retard pointing at High Nirvana Paladin

Pendulums really need to lose that extra deck condition if they lose that maybe they'll be worth playing again, until then they'll always be ass just like rituals, why is this game so bad at balancing resources for a rewarding payoff?

How could you fix Pend deck that use Pendulum Summon that NOT turn it into solitaire deck

>>534415317
Unless you magically make every scale place another at same time. No, they still need search like 20 cards because how scale works.

Half of deck stuffed on ED means jackshit if deck don't have link or proper scales available. And pend combos still are shorter than GY turbo.

>>534414942
Mitsurugi are literally right there, and don't pretend like Herald Turbo and Nekroz haven't been meta.

>>534415317
Just give them cheats like every other summoning method.

>>534415317
Entire archetype of Pendulums
>harsh as fuck turn-long archetype lock for breathing
>each Scale searches another monster
>each Scale can change to become the high or low scale at will, so you dont even need specific scales anymore
>each monster is an endboard piece (negates, quick pops etc.)
It would remove the solitaire because your only real option is to set the scales, search some bodies and Pendulum Summon it out. You can't fuck around with subarchetypes because you can't use them due to the lock. You don't need to gather materials and start turning them into ED monsters because you get the endboard via the first Pendulum Summon

Speaking of Pendulums, I just thought up these cards and I think these would be fun since they could be splashed into everybody.

>aislop
End yourself

>>534416764
>no PSCT
>referring to archetypes as a concept in text
>non-activated mid-search replacement effects
>aislop
fuck off

Yummykeks...

>>534417016
better?

>>534417016
>>referring to archetypes as a concept in text
this should be a thing.

>Enneacrafts are based on the Enneagram, an obscure psuedoscientific personality test
>The Level 1s are named after greek words in association with their Enneatype
>The Level 9s simultaneously have names based on their animal while almost simultaneously being an anagram of the Level 1
>the existence of having anagram itself being wordplay on enneagram
>all the effects are based on the enneatypes
>flip pendulum with burn counters
How did Konami even come up with this shit, this basically takes the award for weirdest and most fantastical archetype by a country mile

>>534417423
Not at all. The core concept of an effect continuously applying in Deck that enables the card to not only be treated as any card when specifically searching for specifically a monster but to substitute that search effect with a Pendulum Zone placement alongside a permanent name change for the original specific name you were searching prior, is just not even remotely close to any effect that has ever been done before even conceptually.
I appreciate the concept, but the current rules engine just does not support this as a concept.
Pic related is the closest I could get to a hypothetical "real" version of the card that works within the rules engine.
>Deck Summon effect akin to the Awakening of the Possessed cards
>Only works on the turn you have searched, and only works on cards you have already searched by sending them to a place that can be referenced (and also avoid accidental synergies)
>This in turn activates a mandatory effect to place itself in the Pendulum Zone with a name change that references the card you removed to play it
>Pendulum Effect has a mandatory trigger on Pendulum Summon to pop itself and search for a card with the same name as itself, except one from the archetype its from

Enneacraft's convention of being giant sin-judging monsters based on the enneagram but also the ancient greek language is kinda like if Argostars weren't the lamest thing ever and actually did something with the whole being based on the Argonauts + WWII Japanese planes

>>534418115
Basically unworkable as a concept. It's trying to prove something not present on the cards and requires outside knowledge to fully know and understand

>>534418329
Thanks. That's the kinda wordage I wanted to see. I like generic tools that could be used in any deck.

Shame KoA preemptively hit Enneacraft with the time rules because you could make your opponent take 20 minutes off reading every card

>>534412975 (OP)
So these guys are just modern Qli, huh. Cool.

Behold, the Enneacraft boss monster and win condition

enneacraft almost seem flower cardian level weird in terms of effects and playstyle.

Konami printing a bunch of stun and flip support then making a Flip Stun deck with almost 0 synergy with any of it hilarious bit desu

AtoriF.mar being a shoein for the MD animation is pretty funny when it's probably the worst Level 9 and the one that'll come up the least

>>534420000
It's like they know another Flip deck is on the way and they wanted to make more generic support for Flips, only slam a on the table a Flip deck that's allergic to almost everything not from its archetype.

>>534420563
*only to slam on the table
I'm tired, boss...

>>534413638
When more of these pendulum magicians were getting made alongside xiangke and xiangsheng I wondered at the time if they were going to give Yuya the usual noble emperor past life like Atem or Nasch, but one that committed a huge mistake on the world from an originally good intention. Well there was never anything relevant about the xixis in the end

ngl I was hoping for a generic FLIP rota from Enneacraft that I could shove in my Mimighoul deck
Who could've thought they have no synergy with almost all FLIP support barring shits like WAKE-CUP Macchi

Why are people saying Macchi has synergy with Enneacraft just because you can Macchi an Enneacraft, dawg they all have a NOPT effect to summon anything from hand face down, Macchi's "synergy" is that you can even use her effect and then she's entirely made pointless by the universal Enneacraft effect

>>534421602
Because she's the only recent FLIP support that works with them
WAKE-CUP Mocha doesn't work despite also being FLIP support

>can't use any of the shitty ass Subterror boss summon effects because they summon themselves in face up defense position
I mean obviously made redundant by the NOPT summon of whatever you want in hand face down but still kinda funny

Why did Konmai need to restrict that hard?
Can they just write
>Except FLIP monster
Instead

>>534421848
>tfw this link-2 (made by OCG) is still fucking useless
YOU TOLD ME IT WOULD BE HER TIME

>>534421754
Saying Macchi has synergy because her effect works is like saying Mimighoul has synergy because you can still activate the effect to summon them to the opponent's field face down
I think it should probably have more synergy than "You can use the effect but it does literally nothing"

>>534422057
Some monsters have flip effects despite not being FLIP monsters

>>534422090
What would they need to do to stop Construct into Winda being the better play every time?

>>534422057
>except monsters that mention flip
So you can play shit like PACMAN and Time Reloader

Poodulums! LOL! XD

They need a fucking turn 0
Something like
>Trap card
>Special summon as many "Ennercraft" monster from hand or GY as possible in face-down Defense Position. You cannot Special Summon the turn you activate this effect, except in face-down Defense Position. If you did not control any facedown card, you can active this card from your hand

When did Konami started running out of ideas for card design?

>>534422382
Enneacraft would be retardedly oppressive if you gave them this card
Imagine if your opponent set 4 Level 1s and you had to deal with 4 interruptions that all also searched a card

>Machina Metalcruncher is a Normal Summon that adds an EARTH Machine
>also Level 9 for uh, synergy?

>>534419770
Ennacraft is almost Drytron if you squint

>>534423151
>futuristic machines
>also partly level 1
>also partly light
>all with a hard xenolock preventing the special summon of anything sans their weird gimmick
>completely unconventional in their associated mechanic (drytrons ritual summon based on ATK, enneacraft want your opponent to perform certain actions to trigger the flip effects)
>have two actions attached to one conventional effect (every drytron name sans Nu has the exact same effect of summoning itself then performing another action, every enneacraft name has an effect to flip itself when your opponent does X then perform an additional action such as search a card)
>has comedically low synergy with the vast majority of its associated summoning mechanic archetypes as result of its hard xenolock (drytron actually infamously fucking loathes most of the other ritual archetypes and at best takes their ritual monsters and tells their main deck to fuck off sans Megalith and Herald, enneacraft is self explanatory)
>based around punishing your opponent from doing fucking anything (haha get it because drytron played herald)
It's not that particularly hard of a stretch

The waifu, the monster, and the machine

Guru Control Enneacraft

>>534424472
That can work

>>534424472
Guru performing the unique role of making it so you don't just die on the spot to Evenly Matched

Oh cool
Fiendess can SS in facedown

Will mieru finally come back?

With the current playstyle of Monarch, I can't help but feel like you can get Stunfags to play Combo if they think it'll piss off their opponent because it just floodgates them to death

>>534412975 (OP)
Just got back from work, so what does Enneacraft do? Is it good?
Is it better than Hecatoncheires?
How would it do against the current meta?

>>534425509
Lol
Lmao even

>>534424847
Can you even use Subterror and Ennea together?

>>534425509
Sure you will have fun going first

>>534425615
You can
Subterror only have Guru and Fiendess and they only normal summon Guru

>>534425509
It basically sets 5 but in the monster zone
They all hard xenolock you out of face up special summons, and quick flip themselves when your opponent performs certain actions then does a second thing, along with a flip effect on a new chain.
It probably rapes Yummy because it casually has an effect that prevents your opponent from targeting anything from field or GY and also another one that grants destruction protection so idk how Yummy is outting that
Absolutely nightmarisly abysmal Dracotail matchup, since they just chainblock the Altharion and kill you

>2 doa archetypes
Please let the last one be good.

>>534427295
I wouldn't be surprised if the deck with the most boring artwork is the best one.
This happens all the time.

serious question, what's the worst that shs can do with scarecrow now that tcg finally got rid of the most generic extra deck negates? (implying solbreaker armor gets axed instead to avoid ftks)
not that it should come back, just asking

Post your thoughts on this archetype.

Bless JP drawthread
https://bbs.animanch.com/board/5399146/

>>534427990
too much text just tell me what they do

>>534427295
*hecahands

>>534428213
>most of it is badly drawn goonershit
Makes sense that it's only a minority of artists who can actually do quality work

>>534429115
you are so rude

sex kot

>>534430120
Yoko Littner if she catgirl

>>534427295
>first time in a long while
>mimighoul

>>534427990
cool control deck that sadly will be played as a stun deck instead

>>534428681
Pend effects
>Each time somethings flipped face up - put a counter on this card
>Small ones pay 900 to search 3. Opp picks one at random
>Big ones have an end of bp pop for anything with lower atk so long as scales are up

Monster effects
>Reveal from hand to special something face down. Cannot special except face downs for the rest of the turn
>Trigger effects that force flip each one. Such as effects activating in gy, banisement, etc.
>Small ones have everything from man-eater bug to Psy Frame Omega effects when flipped.
>Big ones have continuous effects ranging from atk boosts and protection to burning on search.

Field spell returns any number from field to hand, swaps scales on flip summon, and removes counters to burn.
Normal spell places 1 scale from deck and recycles pends from face up extra.
It feel like its just going to be stun. Looks like a lot of moving pieces to get any form of wincon going and the scales and effects actively discourage unga bunga with the bigger dudes. Might be a nice engine to make non-stun Subterror playable on a casual level though, so theres that.

>>534430412
Forcing FLIP on others is NOT how a FLIP deck should play

I'm NGL bros, the new Draco cards really aren't as bad as I thought. Stand Off, even though it isn't a True Draco card in name unfortunately, is a one card tribute summon that also replaces Majesty Maiden, the worst monster in the deck, and, while 3 tributes is a lot to ask for, the new Master Peace gives the deck some more much needed in archetype interaction and is, at worst, another big body to summon. It's definitely not Monarch support tier, but it gets the job done, and I feel like the two cards are definitely worth running to some degree.

>>534430848
I don't see a single reason to summon this over regular MP
It's way too minus for something that's worse than regular MP in most situation

>>534427990
>Pendulum deck
>Doesnt let you pendulum summon
At this point they might as well admit they want to erase everything about the mechanic and revamp it as S/T support monsters with extra steps.

So, this is Emmercraft's boss monster, right?

>>534431807
Wait
The Stun effect can be active even if you flip normaly?

How does this interact with Enneacraft?

β.LEON: burn 9 on draw
η.TAIL: burn 9 on discard

empty jar is a burn deck now

>>534432048
doesnt do shit, ennea specials in face down defense position and doesnt re-flip themselves. might slightly annoy them if they run guru or other flip support

Chain Coils doing that arms crossed stare vs Enneacraft

>>534432187
you do know this actually jobs to MAR summon right

>>534432106
>Leon doesn't burn on you adding cards to the opponent's hand
>Tail doesn't burn for each card sent to the GY
>Monsters don't put Sinquisition Counters per each monster flipped face up
Wow they really just do not want you to OTK off the back of dumb shit like Empty Jar or resolving Eclipse going second

>>534432387
You need to get Atori first
Also,

>>534432462
>>534432106
So Mimighoul Enneacraft burn is on the table now?

>>534432678
>>534432106

>>534432621
>You need to get Atori first
you say it like it's hard to do 15 in-archetype searchers
>b-but what about OTHER CARD
concession accepted

>>534433163
>other card
And then it's literally searchable and the card you literally grab off of the link 3 while link climbing into Chain Coils

unban fiber jar

>>534432137
Special summon face down is considered setting.

>>534431938
Yes.

>as long as you have a single enneacraft monster in hand, you can get unlimited monster setting
Looking for some control flip decks that can take advantage of this...and the generic search options for lv1/machine/flip is pretty pathetic

>>534433584
Makes you wonder why they don't use that
>You can reveal this card in your hand; Set 1 monster from your hand

>>534434006
So you can Set big monsters without Tributing.

>>534434132
That would be Normal Set, not Set.
If just saying Set meant the actual action of performing a Normal Set, negating a Level 5+ monster with Toadally would Kaiju you

>>534434006
To differentiate between normal setting and special setting I guess.

>>534433940
The first deck to have all sharters

>>534433584
Fuck CaCtoad man. To this day it still makes Bahamut Shark a revolving door on the babkist. What were they smoking when they designed it?

Arahime exorcism.

>>534434243
We already have Normal Set as a terminology

>>534433584
So does LoI actually brick Ennea since they can't set and there's no clause for letting them special summon in def mode when they can't set?

WAIT
If i bounce card back to my hand, does the revealed card reset into not revealed?

>>534434678
>While this card is on the field, if a monster would be Special Summoned in face-down Defense Position (such as with "Cyber Jar" or "Nimble Momonga"), it is instead Special Summoned in face-up Defense Position.
Also, amusingly:
>While this card is on the field you cannot flip a monster face-down with "Book of Moon", "Darkness Approaches", etc.

>>534427909
Double Omega loop thanks to Dispater
Make a rank 5 and go K-9
Para-dice smashers
Mjolnir lock
Search spell canceler.

>>534435161
Thanks anon. That's means Light of Intervention is the 2nd trap floodgate to destroy Ennea

>>534435057
What are you asking?

>>534427990
I give it about a week after it drops online before everyone hates it and complain about the people playing it.

>>534434006
Imagine wanting to make this deck that already is being pushed as cancerous metabait into being able to completely ignore Maxx C and Purulia.

>>534435987
It would still be a Special Summon, although with the confusion it seems to cause people perhaps introducing "Special Set" would be easier

>>534435987
Actually, the Ninja Spell that Sets from Deck and GY a Ninja and Ninjitsu Art can be ashed, meaning setting from hand by an effect still counts as being special summoned

>look up replays of enneacraft
>W NEBULA METEORITE JUST SO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO MASS FLIP YOUR CARDS
come on now

>>534436351
Final card must be something to do that

>>534435865
It's a flip control deck with situational triggers that locks itself out of the extra. It looks fine but can't be as annoying as something like runnick was out the gate. Maybe in its 2nd wave they'll do what they did for mimighoul and shaddoll and give it a floodgate

>>534436351
Was it at least using Enneacraft as a copium engine for worms, or did they forget that there's other generic options for mass flipping

I got dizzy reading the Enneacraft cards, couldn't they make their texts shorter?
Cool concept though

>>534436351
They also have the whale programmed to negate on both turns…
I wish it did that

>>534436737
It helps make it easy to remember that all of them share about 90% of the same effect. After all thay reading, it's a lot of nothing really.

>>534436737
Gotta do your due diligence as a Yugiman player and write down little summaries of what cards do in your notebook.

It is funny that 99% of archetype's basically have 75% of identical card text across all their cards
The only unique Enneacraft effects are their 2nd and 3rd monster effects

>Realizing that special summon face down is not OPT was surprise
>Realizing that special summons are locks to face down killed any expectations
The last time a DBP had a lock that I seriously underestimated was ryzeol, but at least ryzeol had a crazy engine and the r4nk toolbox

>>534436351
The cards that effectively say, "your opponent can only activate 8 cards this duel" have some of the more tricky flip conditions.

It would be funny if this is just another Ryzeal situation in which the prototype with a softer lock was too retardedly busted so they had to give it a stricter lock

>>534436737
>How do we make flips playable in 2025?
>Four (4) fucking effects on each card

You called?

When will they make the Sphinx archetype good?

>>534437867
Actually it's 5
>2 Pend effects
>Summon from hand
>Flip itself (technically 2 effects)
>Continuous effect

>>534438074
Stop asking for things and just play new thing.

>>534438158
>Five (5) fucking effects on each card

>>534435585
i mean, with the field spell that bounce card back to your hand, does it make the reveled card back to not revelead

>testing Dracotail
>realize you can do Sanctifire during your opponent's turn to give your opponent Spirit
When are they gonna ban this card

>>534437480
Every effect is Non-OPT
Even flipped up quick effect and FLIP effect is Non-OPT

4 more months until Mimighoul support...
Just give me the link-1 that...

The Mimighoul Master lv1 retrain to work with the deck's rank 1 gameplan

>>534436737
>>534437867
>>534438158
>>534438334
You people forget that 11 years ago we had Shaddolls which despite being a FLIP deck, completely ruined the future design for Fusion decks

The Apophis turn 0 trap...

>>534439146
>>534439381
You're getting a Mimighoul link-1 that requires Master as material and is basically Charles but Mimighoul

>>534417016
Who raped you?

>>534439656
>exchanging a bounce or two for a backrow negate
Ew
How about no?
Mimighoul wants a generic link-1 so they wouldn't be dead if Dragon and Giant get HT'd

>>534439839
fish only needs a generic synchro boss and 1 link to be good

>>534439839
No, I just got my hopes up that it was going to be Darius.dek, instead of Evangelion with Zoids.

>>534434385
They were thinking: Let's make the most kino Xyz ever. I don't give a fuck about that stupid Shark, Toad deserves to stay legal.

>>534439839
>there are more non-WATER Sea Serpents in the 5 year old game than the 30 year old one

Remember that while TCG exclusive might be in tha bad shape, we're nowhere near as restricted the KR exclusives
These gooks buckbroke OCG so hard that they completely banned them from ever making a card.

>>534440641
Norden did nothing wrong.

Instant Fusion should be a generic starter/extender and Super Poly should be used as a board breaker.

>>534434414
where is the purple girl

>>534440641
>N'tss gave any deck which dumps from the ED free removal
>Norden was a busted extender
>Azathoth let people go first in peace
>Paleos are always waiting for a new trap deck to show up
The Koreans really know how to make some good generic engines don't they?

>>534439601
I forgot all about that deck. I should play it again because it was fun

>>534437365
I used to do that when I got into playing Endymion, kek

>>534427990
I'ma be real with you guys, I don't know how the fuck flip summoning works anymore.
Can you not use the Enneacraft's 1st monster effect, special a monster in face down defense, then just immediately flip summon it? Is that not allowed or something?
I know you can't use your normal summon to set a card then flip it face up right away but isn't it allowed when they're special summoned?

What should I be siding against yummy?

>>534442086
Ghost Belle
Droll
Shifter

>>534442086
A gun that you point at your opponent the moment they try to bounce a synchro back to the extra deck

>>534442086
I don't know why people have trouble against that deck. just eat their cards, they're yummy.

>>534427990
The Normal Spell and Level 9s = based
The Level 1s = utter fucking shit

>>534427990
Gimmick as fuck deck that in the end will have its best build be using a stun engine.

>>534442086
shifter

>>534442086
This is the most hilarious floodgate I see nobody suggesting

>>534436737
No, you just suck at reading.

>>534439492
>completely ruined the future design for Fusion decks
Fusion in general is the most cheating summoning mechanic in the game with contact, send from deck, and tribute fusion summoning. It's only redeeming quality at baseline without these is that fusions are in the ED unlike Rituals.
You can't just say Shaddoll alone ruined the future designs when the mechanic was cheating out Thousand Eyes 10 years prior to them even being an idea. Theres multiple instances in the games history like Thunder Dragon, Metamorphosis, Bestiari, Instant Fusion, Future Fusion, and so on that made the banlist quicker or longer than any Shaddoll card did.
Yes, sending from deck is up there in terms of fuck ups, but you cant say the Shaddoll were the start when we had worse, and still banned, ways of cheating fusions. Even right now, Dragontail is probably the beginning of turn 0 fusion summoning.

>>534445375
After Phantom of Yubel the only way for Fusions to get more retarded with their cheating is if they start getting effects to the extent of "you can Fusion summon this card by adding its materials from your deck to your hand."

>[...](Quick Effect): You can change this Set card to face-up Defense Position; [...]
THIS just doesn't make any fucking sense.
Are we saying "fuck it" to the rules now? Even Ninjas, the designated modern deck that's about face-down monsters (since the other one's actually just floodgate turbo).
Just WHY can you now ACTIVATE a monster effect while that monster is face-down?

time to take the OG crossout from the binder after almost two decades, lol

Rules are meant to be broken!
Next, watch as we get extra deck monsters with quick effects that allow them to special summon themselves whenever you want!

>>534445775
>Are we saying "fuck it" to the rules now
The effect always exist, zoomer

>>534445775
not a new thing, and even if it was new, what's wrong with introducing new mechanics into the game?

>>534442086
Clockwork Night

What kind of forgotten effect you want to turn it into archtype

>>534445375
>even in the old ass video games like Forbidden Memories, Fusion was a scum mechanic for free beatsticks
Yeah this mechanic was always gamebreaking one way or another.

>>534445775
Because fuck you that's why. Konami prints all sorts of incredibly busted flip support, but it will never matter if you can't proactively flip them.

>>534446183
Face-down attack position. It should have never been removed from the game.

>>534436737
>couldn't they make their texts shorter?
say less:
>Pendulum:
>(1) Every time something gets flipped up, slap a Sinquisition Counter on this bad boy.
>(2) Once per turn, drop 900 LP, flex 3 “Enneacraft” from deck, they pick 1, you snag it, the rest go back.
>Monster:
>(1) Flash this in hand drop a monster from hand face-down D like a ninja. That turn, you only summoning face-down D, no cap.
>(2) If they pop a monster effect from hand (Quick): flip this to face-up D, grab an “Enneacraft” from deck. Based AF.
>(3) When this flips face-up: blow up 1 of their mons. Free smoke.

>>534445375
>Even right now, Dragontail is probably the beginning of turn 0 fusion summoning.
I am forgotten...

>>534445775
>Are we saying "fuck it" to the rules now?

>You can activate this trap the turn its set
>If this face down card is targeted...
>You can also XYZ summon this card by using another xyz on the field
>You can tribute summon this card using 1 tribute summoned monster
>Place this card face up in the S/T zone
>You can place this monster face down in the S/T zone

>>534446324
>the scrying dbp archetype that randomly gets a card that searches this

>>534446534
This just reads like a MtG card.

>>534446543
Best goddamn pits in the game

>>534445375
>Dragontail is probably the beginning of turn 0 fusion summoning.
tearlaments existed...
and dracotail wishes it could reach the heights tearlaments did.

>>534446543
Damn, forgot Tear and its 2 years ahead of Dragontail on cheating.

>>534446693
Better than Goddess of Whim? I think not.

>>534446679
I haven't read an mtg card in a hot minute but I'd be surprised if they adopted gen alpha/z speak in their card text.

>>534446741
The thing with Tears is that it doesn't even feel like a fusion deck mechanically. It feels like a Grass deck which just so happened to be able to Phantom Fusion Summon.

Yeah I think it's time to unban kitkallos

Synchrotummy will have to be incredibly busted to save this DBP, which it probably won't be. You know being synchros and all that.

Yuya.dek wish it had this line-up of useful boss monsters

>>534447189
Unban Ariseheart and put Shifter to 3 first

>>534446543
Tears was somewhat more RNG on top of the Ishizu cards being important though.
Even K9 requires that the opponent to do a specific action to Xyz on T0 while Yummy outright unable to, DT is the only one that can summon the ED boss without depending on RNG or opponent, only that you have a specific card and enough mats in your hand.

>>534427990
Actual good way of speeding up flip decks, but reeks of POTENTIALMAN restrictions and clauses

>>534447501
>DT doesn't rely on RNG
>they just need you open with Fymena and the right mats
That just means it does rely on RNG since Fymena is a brick if your opening hand is shit or you can't T0 without Fymena.

>>534447501
>Tears
>RNG
Nobody can gaslight me into thinking Tears are a luck based deck when at their full power with Ishizu they could always mill 10 cards turn 0 with either Havnis or the Heralds.

>>534447213
I love ddd so much its unreal

what are the chances that enneacraft decks slide one of these bad boys in their main?

>>534448495
0

>>534447971
No one said DT doesn't rely on RNG at all.

>>534448182
Tears only reached such level of consistency because Ishizu exist though, which I addressed as Ishizu cards being important.

>>534447213
High Caesar might as well not even be a D/D/D monster though. Deck wasn't even designed to make it, even in the anime it was summoned by Pendulum Summoning two Nikolas.

>>534448495
>Unsearchable

>>534449172
The D/D/D executives feel like complete asspulls because their materials give no indication that they're upgrades.

If I had my way
>Executive Genghis needs a Fusion D/D/D and a D/D or 3 D/D
>Executive Alexander needs a Tuner D/D and a Synchro D/D
>High Caesar needs a RUM on base Caesar

Konami shuld create a Strip Mahjong game featuring the Dragonmaids. All of them so don't think Laudrymaid is safe

>check out what players are saying about yugioh in other sites
>"I agree that yugioh should have been marketed by late teens to adults because its actual story in Japan is just that. I feel that yugioh requires a Harvard level of understanding if you want to craft a deck thats super complex that works and wins you games."
>1 like
I get that yugioh isn't beginner friendly and that it has a learning curve, but describing the game as needing "harvard level of understanding" is a bit of a stretch.

>>534449172
DDD can easily make Caesar now
Yes, without Fiendsmith

>>534450401
A paradox exists that there's no way the card game could have taken off with late teens and adults since the anime only got dubbed on a Saturday morning cartoon block which made the IP popular in the first place

>>534450401
It’s certainly a lot more flattering to say than “Yugioh is what happens when you give an autistic child full control over managing their diet, schedule and their own multi-million dollar game.”

>>534450401
Don’t pay attention to those
They are just illiterate people who don’t want to read card texts

The way to fix ygo for new players is to free Maxx C and put it in all the structure decks.

>>534451590
1. Get rid of the banlist
2. Infinite normal summons
3. Each player starts with 10 cards and draws until they have 10 cards for each draw phase
4. Main deck limit is set to 100 cards Extra Deck limit is set to 50 cards
5. Get rid of the link rules on Pendulums and give them back their unique zones

>>534450401
i used to think yugioh was a game for retards but the second you try to explain shit to someone else that didn't play the game for 10+ years like you, you'll see how unnecessarily complicated it is to actually be good at yugioh
it's not even that you have to be smart or something, you just need to put a lot of mindspace into it because there's so many variables to think about, something like
>when should i actually use my handtraps?
has so many different answers depending on so many things that it's just impossible to answer easily
there's a reason the grand majority of players on easily-accessible sims (ie MD and EDO) are so bad at the game

>>534450401
It's clearly an exaggeration, but its not far off. Because of how the TCG is set up (mainly because that learning resources don't exist and a ruling database doesn't exist) you need to submerge yourself in a lot of knowledge seemingly from nowhere.
On top of the base rules of the game, the different summoning methods and their intricacies, the current meta decks and how they function on a deep level, you also need to learn the fundamentals of reading PSCT, the many ass-pull rulings that exist out there and generally understand that all this learning and all this knowledge means absolutely dick all when a Judge decides he doesn't like you and warps the rules of the game to fuck you.
There's so many little things that you need to understand and learn, none of which is intuitive. Sometimes the game is so strict in its meaning that a slight word change results in completely different rulings. Sometimes the game is so forgiving that cards can just not say what the fuck is going on and you have to infer from thin air what is meant.
Take Rahu Dracotail for example. Nowhere on this card does it say that it "sends" cards anywhere, but you just sort of have to know they specifically SEND to the GY as a result of a Fusion Summon, meaning it is able to be Ash Blossomed. You have to KNOW that when you Ash the effect, the EFFECT is negated, not the activation. This means the "You can only activate 1 "Rahu Dracotail" per turn" applied still. Yet, the resolution lock that locks you into Fusions DOESN'T despite the card resolving, because it is part of the effect, and the effect got negated.
All that knowledge, not really taught to you at all, must be known to properly plan around and understand card interactions, and Rahu is pretty simple card at that.

>>534450693
duelist kingdom served its purpose to get us kids invested in the game because of dark magician and Blue-Eyes all while preparing us to actually follow the rules with the battle city arc. I know that as teens we didn't follow the rules of the game until the time we wanted to enter locals and compete.
>>534451172
good point. discussing the game with likeminded people here, fb groups and at locals kinda keeps me in a thought bubble for the game so occasional comments like this one take me back somewhat.
>>534451457
they're fun to read sometimes though. someone posted the following comment in regards to pic related:
>Why is it that every anime female has white panties? Don't they make them in different colors and lengths?
bruh...
>>534452272
its something a lot of us, me included, take for granted. we've invested so much time into the game, for the love of the game not even for prizing, that when we do come across others who can't understand the game as we do we think they're dumb or something. and they're not dumb (in the traditional way), but rather they're just not as interested in learning the game as we do

>another response
I'll get to yours in a bit

>>534446693
>>534452419
>Because of how the TCG is set up (mainly because that learning resources don't exist and a ruling database doesn't exist) you need to submerge yours8elf in a lot of knowledge seemingly from nowhere.
So many problems could be solved if TCG wasn't so evilshly incompetent

>>534452419
>Take Rahu Dracotail for example. Nowhere on this card does it say that it "sends" cards anywhere, but you just sort of have to know they specifically SEND to the GY as a result of a Fusion Summon, meaning it is able to be Ash Blossomed. You have to KNOW that when you Ash the effect, the EFFECT is negated, not the activation. This means the "You can only activate 1 "Rahu Dracotail" per turn" applied still. Yet, the resolution lock that locks you into Fusions DOESN'T despite the card resolving, because it is part of the effect, and the effect got negated.
what a perfect example. even seasoned veterans fall victim to not fully understanding certain interactions and intricacies that modern cards are full of nowadays, leading to a bunch of soft cheats (and full blown cheats going unnoticed) even on tournament streams. even I admit that certain locks and restrictions get by me as a results of trying to keep up with the rest of the gamestate.

>>534452272
I think the worst part is that Konami caters to the autists who are fully into the game which just perpetuates this sort of shit endlessly.
The game would unironically be better if Konami actually catered to unplayers by making simple and effective cards as opposed to 3+ effect slop maxing out every text box that you need to examine with a fine-tooth comb to ensure that you actually understand what is being said just so you can fuck your opponent for cost as a secondary effect for when your opponent has ONLY four handtraps (fool, he needed 5 to stop you).

>>534453526
They cater to them because it prints them infinite money.

>>534452419
this is such a great way to explain why yugioh is so hard for people to get into
>>534452863
>its something a lot of us, me included, take for granted
yeah exactly
for people that played for a long time and just for the love of the game, all these little details eventually become almost instinctually understood, so we see it as easy and obvious when it's actually such a mess of accumulated knowledge you just understand now when you think it over
>>534453526
>I think the worst part is that Konami caters to the autists who are fully into the game which just perpetuates this sort of shit endlessly.
i don't think this is THAT bad of a thing actually, yugioh has a very specific and seemingly quite stable niche in this regard that is basically impossible to replace, because to become like yugioh you can't start like modern yugioh and need years and thousands of cards and rulings of set-up to reach a similar level of complexity
they'd be throwing everything away in a vain attempt to get other audiences that will probably not even care, if anything i think they know this and it's the whole reason why rush duel is a completely separate game as opposed to some manner of alt. format or a new MR: they want a new audience, but they'll likely never get it with regular yugioh (without compromising short term profits because they could make the game easier to get into from an economic standpoint, market it better, make better learning resources, etc. but that'd likely hurt their bottom line short-term)

>>534452419
>An actual good post on /dng/
Never thought I'd see the day.

Troonseibros, is it looking good for us?

>>534452419
To me, that's part of the appeal. It's unintentional but it actually captures the vibe of the early "anime bullshit" moments of stuff like "I'm not targeting your monster, I'm targeting the ground beneath it" or "my monster is made of a super alloy that won't rust for ten thousand years, making it immune to Time Wizard's aging effect."
A more simple version of the game is a good idea (which is why Rush Duel exists) but the complexity is to many people a good thing due to how it allows for wild plays that require insane knowledge of interactions.

>>534447213
Problem is that most odd-eyes ED monster are focused on beatdown, aside vortex and this thing.

Which Konami made sure to make unsummonable crap because it was promo card. You can use fast wing but still is hard to drop because is lv 7 and need wind monster. Magician part have fuck all besides nirvana paladin which is absolutely anus to summon.

>>534412975 (OP)
>new pendulums
HELL YEAH!!!

>>534461367
You don't pendulum summon though.

Out of touch retards as usual
No one new is touching the game because it's simply put reached a level of powercreep that makes it completely unbearable to anyone that hasnt been following the game for years or anyone without lots of patience to get used to it (most people). Actual normal people who tried getting into the game through master duel were only complaining about the speed of the game and that they didnt wanna watch their opponent play solitaire for 5 minutes not fucking PSCT and niche card interactions. All of that shit is irrelevant when the sim handles it anyway and theyre playing dark magician in bronze. This game just sucks and its deliberately designed to filter casuals and new players at this point

Every single card in the second wave better have an effect that uses the counters. This shit's abysmal.

>>534460118
why it took so long to print this card in the tcg?

>>534454859
Problem is that ygo don't have anything to leash players, if you can summon gay dragon of infinite negates + a full board, go ahead, issue get worse because konami enabled such gameplay and created handtraps to counter this, and then made new decks that ignore handtraps making whole new cycle.

Roach and shifter are just crappy bandaid for turn skip, not saying that other TCGs don't have their own share of bullshit, but take digimon for example, go overboard and your turn immediately ends, it never really stopped anything fancy like diablomon from clogging board or other bullshit.

>>534462729
>Pend
>Anime card

Guess.

>>534462403
Be glad the counter don't fucking matter.

>>534462302
The powercreep is the operant issue but a lot of normalfags also point at the walls of text. They don't care that Nirvana High Paladin basically does nothing and half of its text is conditions, they just see a block of text and think it's overwhelming and confusing.
The amount of normalfags who talk about missing the timing shows you how it's the "perception" of the game being confusing more than it actually being confusing. Missing timing is basically only relevant in this day and age if you play Swordsoul Tenyi specifically because they sometimes go into Yang Zings.

>>534463438
>Missing timing is basically only relevant in this day and age if you play Swordsoul Tenyi
Not when hypercasuals and/or boomers try to play old cards, that thing should have been fixed long ago

>>534413230
Qlis are a burn deck?

>>534464503
now yeah they are

>>534437932
TENSHI TO AKUMA TO TENSHI TO-

>>534461909
I still love Pendulums and how they tend to bring new gimmicks

What if someone made an AI Yugituber clickbait channel?

>>534466872
All yugitubers are essentially clickbait. Have you watched an MBT video? It's a streamclip of him playing MD poorly in dead silence.

>>534431807
Weird how they chose to reprint pot of the forbidden but not this
Also none of the cards so far can flip another card faceup maybe the twitter reveal will address that (and the fact that the deck dies to evenly)

>>534434678
The only relevant ruling we seem to have is a TCG ruling (i.e. possibly bullshit) saying that if a monster would be special summoned face-down while LoI is on the field it's summoned in face-up defense position instead.

>>534469612
>Put my cards in my opponent’s Deck
>Lose game and get my cards stolen
Wooow.

Broken.
https://x.com/yugioh_anime/status/1953667486945329645
https://kaiba-corp.com/item_list.php?reception=1&tag_id=162

>>534412975 (OP)
...is Swords of Revealing Light functionally a board breaker against Enneacraft?

Like, it flips all cards faceup and thereby disarms the Quick Effects, which also causes all the Flip effects to fire off when most have no targets.

>>534471537
This is an effectively better version of Swords in that case.

>>534471993
Not really. That's a powerful Floodgate for sure, but its not a card you can really use into an established board, so it doesn't qualify for the title of Board Breaker.

y

x

>>534471993
>The Eye of the Truth
>Light of Intervention
>Royal Command
We can also add this to the floodgates which totally kill Enneagram

Guys give me tips for going Pure Blue Eyes into P.U.N.K? What dark techs could I play? Not sure what they're weak to. Maybe Dimensional Barrier to stop their... synchro or xyz? Which one is more important?

>>534472505
I'm guessing this guy works if you can figure put how to summon him.

>>534474884
They aren't flip effects, though, and half their monsters have 3K ATK. All that does is let them summon shit that they want online, beat over it and then set the rest of their monsters.

You're like a baby, watch this:
>mills with Cherubini, revives it with A Bao A Qu

which VS is getting banned next list?

>>534476081
Get rid of the Mary Sue and watch the deck collapse

>>534474284
Guys please

>>534463090
She drank the semen of every ugly old bastard in town

>>534476081
None. You'll see a Hollie Sue semi and maybe Razen semi in the OCG. TCG won't do shit.

>>534476081
>Kaiser to 1.

Thank you for playing Yu-GI-OH!

>>534477082
>>534477441
Be realistic, they're not getting hit.

PUR is the best rarity in the game, period. QCR has way too much shine and you can't see the card art for shit, platinums are literally a downgrade from QCRs, Ghosts are so immensely overrated and if you breathe on the card it gets damaged. Collectors are cool but kinda meh, and Prismatic Collectors are UGLY AS SIN with those shit ass glitter sposts.
The only rarity which competes with PUR is the original Ultimate, and still the PURs are way cooler.

>>534477756
OCG going do those irrelevant hits. TCG probably going do proper hits tho.

>>534478669
El Femboy ZEXAL.

how badly do you think the TCG is gonna butcher these names?

>>534481328
they're gonna make hecahands look like ryzeal

>>534481328
that one in particular is getting censored for sure

>>534474332
Free my nigga magical scientist.

>>534427990
Cool burn deck.

>>534481328
Ninecraft Alpha, because it lets them get away with making them sound like Minecraft versions, but now I made the joke and put it on the internet first, so now their lurking intern has to go tell them to change it to something else.

>>534481328
>orgía
Yeah that's not getting past the censors kek

Spell Card "Pot of Greed"
Spell Card "Card or Sanctity"
Spell Card "Card of Demise"

>>534488459
>Start of MP1 and if you have less cards than your opponent and less LP: Draw 2 cards
>Start of MP1 and if you have less cards than your opponent and less LP: Draw 3 cards and discard 2
>Start of MP1 and if you have less card than your opponent and less LP: Draw until you have 5 cards and discard your entire turn 5 turns later

Spell Card: "Fissure"

>>534488817
card of sanctity and graceful charity are different cards.

Why did Psychic flop?

>>534474284
You curl up and lose, Blue-Eyes was only ever meta because of Primite.

why aren't enneacrafts on edo yet
they are like 4 effects copypasted on all the cards

>>534493279
It took them almost a day to add the Hecahands and Dogmatika cards, pray they don't reveal more or those monkeys will take longer with the excuse of adding everything at the same time.

relax they will be added in time for the cup

BUPR tomorrow ?

Has anyone found good techs/ratios for ennema’s?

>>534496471
use a gallon and a half of distilled water plenty of soap and don't forget the lube

>>534476081
No one, at best some cards are getting limited.

e-tele
response?

>>534497673
Kek

>>534498683
Maxx C

>>534491624
It didn't.

>>534498941
Gamma ;)

Pokeymanz.

>534500153
Gay as fuck

hope killer tune doesn't have omni negates

>>534502045
I hope it has generic ones to replace baronne and savage dragon.

>>534500153
what are the last two?

>>534502683
VS monsters, the boss and the slime guy

>>534415317
remove extra deck limit
pendulum effects has great protection effects and enable you to pendulum summon in your opponent turn. they don't search for shit unless your opponent removes them. discourage not having pendulum monsters
make pendulum summoning the equivalent of dropping a nibiru by making strong upon pendulum summon effects

OR
make Sky Strikers but Pendulum.

>>534497673
lmao

>>534464503
>Qlis are a burn deck?
am I a joke to you?

>>534502479
This

>>534504012
>am I a joke to you?
Do you mean qlis or yourself because the answer is yes either way

>>534502683
Vanquish Soul Caesar Valius and Pluton HG.

>>534504012
Nothing feels better than playing Banish stun against Qlis. Macro/Fissure shits all over the Pendulum mechanic and Skill Drain doesn't help them in front of D.D. Dynamite after triple Necroface resolving

Why are there untranslated japanese games on the Early Days Collection? Am I just retarded?

>>534491624
lack of halq

>>534507112
Konami said up front that they don’t feel like translating them.

>>534507112
>re there untranslated japanese games on the Early Days Collection? Am I just retarded?
No, its just konami that's retarded.

hosting eu casual

>>534507908
>>534507863
Damn, I must have missed that. At least the promo card is cool, and the other games are great for my nostalgia. Still. Damn. Coulda been better.

>>534500153
thats very nice

>according to the original manga, there are 4 classes of spellcasters and Dark Magician is of the Black Magic class
>Illusion monsters were finally made canon a few years ago and they're essentially knock off Spellcasters like what Wyrms are to Dragons or what Cyberse are to Machines
>some Dark Magician support implies he uses illusion magic as well as his black magic
>still no Dark Magician support to officially bridge him into the new Illusion type
>likewise, no new Relinquished support to bridge him into the Illusion type as well since by all means, he's not a Black Magic user according to the manga
>also a lot of old ass vanilla spellcasters should also be illusions and the only reason they're not is because the type didn't exist yet
What is Konami waiting for with the Illusion type? There are several Spellcasters they need to retrofit into it now.

Yusei.dek or Burst Protocol cover?

>>534508746
>What is Konami waiting for with the Illusion type?
They're not really waiting on anything with illusions. There are already like 6 or so archetypes for them. We're getting several illusion decks each year and counting.

>>534507176
halq unironically did nothing wrong

>>534508746
Gotta wait for the interns that handle making packfiller to read your post and then you have to wait for the interns that handle card distribution to assign them to sets that are already at least half a year away.

>>534509178
You're not getting shit until Sunday, and it's gonna be Killer Tune.

>>534508684
marbie is a whore
lillie is better
>>534508746
>illusion magician fused with Mahad ñ thus creating Dark Magician
any Illusion monster should be a downgrade

>>534508746
more Cybers are like Psychic than Machine

>>534508746
actually your pic IS illusion magician
the fact that you cannot fuse it with mahad to make Dark Magician but fusion monster is retarded but alas we expect a lot from konami

>>534509496
>Lillie better anything
Just when I thought you couldn't be any worse...

>>534509603
Cyberse monsters are just digimon desu

If Konami were serious about the Illusion type, there should be a game mechanic that they autokill spellcasters and autodie to fiends like in the video games. Fairy monsters should autokill fiends but autodie to spellcasters for good measure as well since that's how the magic type system works.

>>534510032
what magic type do fishes, machines and dinosaurs use?

>>534510032
Why does Black Magic beat White Magic if White Magic beats Demon Magic? Aren't Black Magic and Demon Magic the same thing?

>>534510190
In the old yugioh vidya, this type system shit is just "Summons" and fish, machine and dinos can be any type of summon but usually fish are water (they kill fire and job to thunder), machines are dark (so they job to dreams but beat light) and dinos are earth (they beat thunder but job to wind)

>>534510032
That would be an alternate format. It would be easier to create archetypes that have the same properties.

>>534510229
The two aren't even remotely the same.

>>534510702
>The two aren't even remotely the same.
Can you please explain then?

>Diabellze is an Illusion which means by the old vidya rules she beats Diabellstar since she's a spellcaster
>her effects are all meant to counter Sinful Spoils which is what Diabellstar uses to fight
>She's useless against Diabellstar decks anyways
How could they have designed her better?

>>534510032
This is the rules that some of the video games used. I remember playing Reshef on GBA and having my light monsters beaten by darks, those by dreams, then fiends, and back to light.

>>534509496
>>534509730

>>534510769
Demons were once used more or less like payers back in the day. It's that you are receiving power from an entity that is not the one true god that makes it heretical. Black magic is a school of magic devised by man that simply refers to anything destructive.

>>534511050
I tried playing Sacred Cards and learning the new rules took some time because I couldn't figure out why my monsters kept dying despite having more attack points. Those old games really needed a tutorial mode because their format is complete whiplash from the actual TCG.

>>534511275
Ahh so I get it.
White Magic = God's power which kills demons
Demon Magic = Heresy but somehow makes you immune to illusions
Illusion Magic = Mind Control which messes with men's minds
Black Magic = Man rejecting God to destroy everything

Thanks, now the system yugioh uses makes more sense

>>534509323
Halq did a lot wrong. But so did the other generic ED cards that halq enabled. With them all banned out I think halq could safely be released.

>>534511841
Not without a Synchro clause

ggs Unplayer, the side card came in clutch

Nike commercial ft. Joey.
https://x.com/nikejapan/status/1953607091731480936

I kinda hate current powercreep, my BEWD got obliterated with very little chance to respond. The enemies could set up a winning board in merely 1 turn, I can't do anything like that, blue eyes destroys and tries to attack you but doesn't just sit there smiling
>Your turn lmao try doing anything and I'll negate it
In some games I did severely disrupt my enemy... By drawing mostly handtraps and nothing playable / nothing that could get through a single handtrap of theirs. So yeah I used out of archetype cards to negate their turn, at the cost of not doing anything myself so they just reset and kick my ass next chance.

I feel like my cards aren't weak, they simply work as intended instead of just doing everything

>>534512269
Where was this Collaboration back in the 2000s?

>>534512823
It is what it is, no use crying about it.

>>534512269
>>534512957
This, lmao wtf, this is so random. For what purpose? A jonouchifag grew up, got to work at Nike, and just now he's the leader of product development and realized his dream of Joey Nike shoes?

Not sure they were given any attention in the anime, it was a manga thing. Red eyes hasn't gotten a Meta deck or anything to expect a surge of Joey players, I'd expect it from Kaiba since he just got a very popular Structure Deck, or Yugi since he's the protagonist.

>>534510032
>spellcasters and autodie to fiends like in the video games. Fairy monsters should autokill fiends
Duelists of the Roses did this to some degree

>>534513335
>A jonouchifag grew up, got to work at Nike, and just now he's the leader of product development and realized his dream of Joey Nike shoes?
Now this is kino to think about. Imagine some Japanese kid reading the manga back in the 90s, liking Jou's character and getting inspired to work at Nike so he can make his own Yugioh inspired shoes.

>>534513375
That was an Attribute/element system that stuns the losing card for a turn.

>>534512823
Post list and what you lost to, we'll try to help

>>534513521
Honestly I cannot imagine it any other way. If it was just chasing a trend they'd have done it within the year Takahashi died. And they'd have chosen Yugi or Kaido.
This was 100% a fan making their dream reality

>>534412975 (OP)
https://challonge.com/dngAMC30
https://challonge.com/dngAMC30
https://challonge.com/dngAMC30

Sunday is the final AMC where you can actually ban stuff. Well, we will still have one last round of bans after 31, but the bans we make this weekend will be the last that actually go into effect assuming no one picks up from where I leave things.

>>534514756
Sora aka Lenny killing another thing. Fuck ԁiapercord

>>534515013
>implying you aren't the one with all the challonge ԁiaper alts

Anything to talk about the thread boogie man, huh?

>>534511006
>>She's useless against Diabellstar decks anyways
When said decks are less Diabellstarr and more Diabellstarr's pets, Diabellze is not floodgating a damn thing for as long as you can go into S.P little knight to smack the BBL off of Diabellze

TW3 reveals starting this month or next?

>>534512269
Damn, Joey's voice sounds rough there.

Kinda cool that the big enneacraft flip eff’s are immune to targeted/face-up negation

you now remember the bad medius lore

The archetype where every card has the same effect with a few minor differences.

>>534515826
Kawaii Kalin.

i kind of want cloudian support

uhh
was there nothing?
i thought we were back in reveal season

>seen 1 person state that pixiea isn't a hydra but a nine tailed fox
>seen another person claim that they can't tell what it is except a snake
Kinda would have preferred if Pixiea was a hydra desu

>>534515914
both previous TW sets revealed the support for the announced archetypes in September, and then the later 2 in october to november

>>534518781
No reveals on weekends (Japan is a day ahead of most time zones)
Come back Sunday

>>534519064
>Come back Sunday
A few more days til the remaining Yusei SD cards then.

It's kinda unfortunate there isn't a holding facility for all the shitty GX-Arc-V era decks to get support in like there is for Duel Terminal so you basically just gotta keep waiting

>>534519272
No one cares about animecrap so there's no point in such a pack

>>534519359
Why was your first thought when I was talking about shitty GX-Arc-V era decks solely anime decks? What is wrong with you

>>534519442
Ignore the shitposters trying to stir drama. The "Animu sucks lore/game original good" posting is the lowest hanging fruit for posters here.

It's funny to think that since Enneacraft implies 9 pairs for each Enneatype and each Level 1 has the search effects, that with enough time, it'll inevitably become the deck with the most starterextenders to the point that you don't even come close to maxing out on them and may even play some of them highlander style to get around HOPTs

It’s a low-hanging fruit because anime fans and competitive game fans are ruining the card quality for everyone by insisting on sharing the space.

What's your one compliment to this character?

>>534520304
>21 Level 1 starters
>1 of each Level 9 name and the field spell and trap
>9 Mulcharmies
This is what we call optimal deckbuilding

>>534520568
Konami will do whatever they want. Autistic tribalism is pointless.

>>534520620
He's cute

>>534520620
He's fine really. Annoying on purpose at times but he's ultimately a harmless character.

The Seven.

>>534520620
better than his sister

reborn tengu in 2025

>>534521718
Gets me how despite being a main cast member, she only had 4 onscreen duels.

Yugioh for this feels?
https://youtu.be/4rm0K-vN1OQ?si=WKDtEQ1TPX4xwxmb

>Psyren getting anime adaption
>Yugioh got jack shit
Its over...
We are lower than Axebait

>>534524536
The humiliation ritual to end all humiliation rituals

>>534522256
Tengu is still busted, just waiting for the right deck to abuse it

>>534524762
In b4 its a QUALITY fest like Biscuit Hammer

>>534524762
No one in the industry wants to write YGO duels anymore.

>>534524536
>monster literally transforms into the idol alt art shows up
So what was that one dude saying about this just being cosplays or whatever

>>534524762
Umm your lore anime? They got lots of big voice actors for it.

>>534525430
That's their human form or something like that

>>534520620
For a kid character in a show that's majority adult cast he's actually one of the better ones from animated tv compared to how bad it can get. He's not intrusive with a bunch of annoying tics, and is just a simple kid trying his best

Are we in a...boardbreaker format?

>>534528701
No.

>>534520620
He's a bigger victim of Crow than Aki was. You can literally see Life Stream Dragon in one of the endings of 5Ds but it got delayed to all the way to near the end of the series. If 5Ds had somehow gotten canceled after Dark Signers, he would have gotten robbed hard since we'd never see his payoff.

Early Yuma was kind of really fucking bad compared to if they had just been a little bit toned down with him for an earnest and naive MC. Zexal's weak spots don't actually bother me compared to how offputting it can be for others, but man sometimes it's like they completely ignored the slightly simpler and down to earth option that would've worked out

>>534529965
It's a common fact that Yuma drags his own show down. Astral, Shark and Kaito hard carry early Zexal and then mid Zexal the Arclights take some of the load off their backs. Zexal II is when Yuma definitely gets good and there's the Barians to really get the show off the ground

>>534529965
I don't mind early Yuma. It's refreshing to have a retarded MC that has to learn from Astral.

>>534529965
What the hell were they even thinking with Yuma when had Judai 8 years before Zexal even aired? They had to have been aware of how lukewarm his character was received so why would they make a worse version of him?

YGO 5D's? More like YGO 3D's.

>>534531729
Yusei and Crow with their broke ass bum friend who refuses to work.

>>534520620
Deformers are cool.

>>534530521
Yuma's 'friends' are worse

>>534530830
Early Yuma had a little something when he went through that mini arc in 10-12 and apologized, but that was more like a short break. I don't mind retard characters inherently but usually the humor behind it has to be a little better to soften it,depending on how far they're taking the retard bit. Gilag and Alito got some better comedy scenes for their early phase

>>534531729
I know Crow gets a lot of hate but I think he's no more worse than Johan was to GX. He works well as a look into how Yusei would be if he wasn't the chosen one but just a compassionate guy trying to survive in the ghetto.

>>534532587
I wouldn't hate Crow as much if he was more pleasant to look at.

>Enneacraft
they made them half light to fuck with dominus spiral, didn't they?

>>534532706
He looks fine when he has the helmet on.

>>534532954
Yeah. His hair is the worst part.

>>534528701
Yes.
Handtraps don't work against VS K9 or Yummy unless they're exactly charmies.

>>534532785
I doubt it. There's a lot of incidental synergies
>Level 9 for prediction Princess
>Level 1 for Mimi's
>Earth and Light machines
>All the level 1s are machine dupe targets

>>534532587
Crow is actually pretty endearing in the show. He's a genuinely good guy. He's just perceived as obnoxious because BUY BLACKWINGS

>Sorafag stops posting
>suddenly thread has no more diapershit
Gee I wonder if it was the british or a deranged american

>>534535616
>ctrl+f diaper
>>534414054
>only other result
>made literally 22 hours before
Wow I wonder why you feel the mysterious need to mention this every day

>>534533786
It feels like wanted them to be synergetic with other Flip decks, but then slapped that restriction on all of them. It'd be one thing if it was for the rest of the turn, but the ENTIRE turn?

I think and I hope the final Enncraft cart that gets revealed is Poplar. All the low levels search on flip so a monster that says
"If this card is added to the hand except by drawing it; you can special summom a monster in face-down defense position

>>534539068
Nah
We know it is Trap card

>>534539068
>brick you have to hard search
but why though

>>534537219
>defending a pedo

w-why did they do it, bros?

>>534541110
Doesn't do anything award

no reveals why?

>>534542494
weekend

>>534543372
oh ok thanks

>>534540263
>not defending the pedo

1-3 DDD
4-6 Sarco
7-9 Save it for Enneacraft
0 Save for the future

>>534545392
roll

>>534545392
>>534545697
reroll

>>534545392
>>534545697
>>534545786
Last one

>>534524536
thank fuck yugioh will never get this embarassingly desperate
holy fucking cringe

>>534547685
>the slow build up of each monster transforming into an idol
Probably one of the most emasculating things I think I've ever watched

>>534524536
Does this kind of thing actually sell enough to justify the promotion compared to this effort going into something else, it's not like there's a shortage of actual idolshit franchises to buy into

Yu-Gi-Oh needs more lolis.

Do you ever think Duel Masters will ever lampshade how it is kinda humiliating/emasculating for some fuck off giant powerful monster (male) to be some JK idol in an alternate universe given that alternate timelines that also cross over is already a canon thing in their universes

23 players:

1st. Yummy
2nd. Vanquish Soul K9
Top4. Yummy
Top4. Lunalight

>>534550159
I'd tell you to take meds but you clearly already are and it's making you worse instead of better.

>>534550283
Not entirely sure why you're pretending like any portion of that sentence doesn't make complete sense in context.

>>534550159
No?
Why would they?

>Konami fiscal report lists the animation and merch as great successes for Yu-Gi-Oh
Well there you go

>>534552920
they need to do another battles of legend with the insignias so I can get camellia and ace zero with the striker insignia

>>534553360
>>534553497
Looks like scenes from a 3DCG movie

>Konami considers the Animation numbers a success
Oh no no no bros our flop narrative. Jokes aside the fact that they consider the response to the Animation Chronicles good should show them there's a market for an anime hopefully.

>>534553575
They made me briefly think back to Kado the Right Answer because of the giant superstructure cube in that anime. But I remember Kado easily because of the trainwreck spectacle it ended up being

>>534545881
PLAY D/D/D MOTHERFUCKER

It is funny that both Qli and Enneacraft feature the pend scale in their artwork only to be hyperxenophobic and only use the pend mechanic as a means to an end and having absolutely nothing in common with any sort of conventional Pend archetype

>Konami considers the Animation numbers a success
Yeah, just like Rush is success, right?

>>534554319
>Rush is a success
Pretty sure IRs have never considered Rush a success beyond a "promising endeavor". Also unlike that game Yu-Gi-Oh actually makes 12x it's sales in JP alone before taking global into account meaning the chronicles are a way smaller chunk of change for a product that sells vs one that struggles within it's smaller market.

>>534553979
Can Konami pull the strings already to get Shueisha to say ok to a cross series OVA where people can watch an animated Shun vs Revolver duel and whatever else

>>534556110
Don't they literally have the same face when it comes to character design because they're twins? The makeup was totally unnecessary and just makes him and by extension his sister look ugly.

>>534557223
It's more on point if you think about it. Leo is literally being a caricature of what he thinks girls are like in hopes of fooling others.

>>534557332
>just like GX before it, 5Ds also perfectly captured what trannies are really like
Yugioh once again being ahead of its time.

>>534557427
Unlike Jaden and Yubel you can at least excuse Leo as a dumb kid who probably still believes in cooties so his attempt at least just comes from his innocent desire to fucking duel and not a desire to have sex like Yubel.

>>534556682
Konami have ZERO say in the matter
Even Chronicles itself was decided by Shueisha

17 players:

1st. Ryzeal Onomat
2nd. Yummy
Top4. Vanquish Soul K9
Top4. Cyber K9

>>534559382
On paper sure but where's the underhanded corporate scheming or bribes that can work out in the plebs' favor for once

Yubel may fall off but Phantom of Yubel is still the biggest asspull of a card

>>534559574
>1st. Ryzeal Onomat
>ELEVEN (11) 1-off

imagine a yugioh timeline where blackwing wins b2b worlds

>>534553631
this shit is just EVA angels

22 players:

1st. Vanquish Soul K9
2nd. Dracotail
Top4. Yummy
Top4. Stun

>>534560725
DT is running triple Nib, huh?
I guess it's still effective.

BUPR tomorrow?

>>534561008
Basically forces your opponent to have 2 negates to stop Fymena and Nib

>>534561136
Made to be in a tiny cage watching as a fat meaner ugly brown plump purrely breeds the other females

>>534561136
I for one am glad Purrely wasn't another tale of animal abuse creating a monster because it definitely has the aura of a story like that.

>>534561167
True, not to mention other potential HTs.

which summon type is the most dishonest

Special summoning.

>>534566110
tribute summoning.
it pretends to be le ebin based summon but i gets so much free resources it might as well be a special summon deck

>>534557427
>>534557332
>>534556110
>>534557223
https://files.catbox.moe/rlbpxk.mp4

what do you think of ygo having maximum 6 cards on the field? compared to other games with unlimited monsters on the field? or games where only 3 monsters are available or 1 only like pokemon? is it a good thing?

>>534568695
It's unique.

>>534568695
it's an interesting mechanic and it actually balances out a few decks and cards quite well
plus it allows for column shenanigans (which were ignored for almost 2 decades but still, better late than never i guess)

>>534568695
i hate the shitty mobile phone layout
10 card zones are much better

>>534412975 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XUPbkFc2Ew

>>534568695
I really like how it plays with specific zones and columns. It also puts an interesting angle on “go wide” strategies.

>>534567256
>anthro xyz deck
so when are they making dragon rulers 2.0 or thunder dragon 2.0?

>>534571995
when will we get zeus alt art

>Game 3
>Double ash, White layer, Triple tact, Magna carrier
I'm done making the big fucking robot. Time for trap cards

36 players:

1st. Yummy
2nd. DDD
Top4. Yummy
Top8. Dracotail k9 - https://i.imgur.com/B0oPhuy.png
Top8. Mikanko - https://i.imgur.com/MJ8v01I.png

>>534524536
Dragonmaid?
>>534524915
Filtered

>>534574536
>More fiendslop
I sleep

humiliation ritual monsters wheen?

Synchro event is good this time.

https://x.com/YuGiOh_TCG/status/1954211166709825612?t=KWraus5cC4TmoHQ4DiCTzw&s=19
Oh boy another Shenshen.
She's pretty but ass and black garden too. Why does Konami keep bloating the mega-tins when it has been failing year after year?

>>534567256
https://x.com/mrimoritkg/status/1953986468764156036

>>534575195
>>534575494
trainnybait garbage, kill yourself

bruh wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi9zXsY8e6Q

>new exclusive
>zero discussion
why are we so dead

>>534568695
It's 11, retard.

>>534578638
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YUGIOH HERE, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>534578638
I don't care for tcg packfiller

>>534578638
The worst D fissure I've seen all week. FGO lookin ass design. Unplayable.

>>534578581
>see two girls kissing
>think of tranny
hole yourself

some ocg lists

https://postimg.cc/gallery/p8WBWgF

>>534578656
monster zone retard

>>534579336
>traptrix troon telling others to kill themselves
comedy gold

>>534579442
MUST. BE. NICE

>>534579442
>Rose Dragon Tenpai
>Lab running DDV to nuke Yummies
You son of a bitch I'm in
>>534579764
>3 Sacred Trees
>Bulb
Yeah...

>>534579442
>3 Count Surveyor
>2 Scale Surveyor
How the fuck will that work in TCG where these two don't exist?

>>534578790
What is this general even for.

>>534580095
They are in latest Battles of Legend

>>534578638
i didn't see this
it's actually a pretty decent card

Fuck it let's a Rank 4 ROTA to every type just so that Ryzeal can have eternal play.

>>534580095
TCG did release those. The cards stuck in Limbo are the manga volume promos and these are Premium Pack cards.

>>534578613
Did he show games going second or is it all cherry picked going first?

>>534581153
Mental illness containment zone to keep the other yugioh generals usable.

>>534412975 (OP)
What deck takes advantage of Krishnerd Witch the best? I love her but the effect is just ASS

>>534578638
I think it's good enough to potentially get a side deck slot in any K9 build.

>>534581604
>Fuck it let's a Rank 4 ROTA to every type
Based if true

>>534581964
>to keep the other yugioh generals usable.
It ain't working then
>>534578638
>Queen
>Looks like a man
Drag queen?

>>534578638
Is this their attempt at Ashened support?

>>534583121
>DARK Pyro
yeah

>>534578638
anything else?

the d in /dng/ is mean to be diaper

>>534584515
It stands for Kill yourself you fucking nigger stop bring up that disgusting shit

Diaper status?

Anyone tested out Enneacraft yet? Is it decent? Honestly starting to look like Phantom Revengers is gonna be a dud.

>>534581964
>Containing the mentally ill from participating in a topic for the mentally ill, on a site visited exclusively by the mentally ill.

>>534586202
it's still not on edo

Spent way too long labbing out ABC today and yesterday. Deck feels so close to being good they just need the union link 1.
This is what you do off one card. The line gets exponentially easier to do if you cheat or have another union in hand so you can CL 2 B CL 1 C. Fiendsmith and Silhouhat are unfortunately the best things you can do while light locked from Y.

>>534587282
Do you use Duelingbook to lab? I like it better for that purpose than EDO.

>>534567256
Who is this mystery nigga?

>>534588059
Izuna's supervisor

>>534582316
Triamid

>>534578638
This is just Ashened support, wtf.

>>534582316
She's literally pseudo-Dream Mirror support

Never knew the edo codemonkey worked on stream
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1F-DTtbkSs8&pp=ygURZW5uZWFjcmFmdCB5dWdpb2g%3D

>>534579442
Is there like any replacement for Baronne you could go into (since her pop is part of the combo since it triggers Hate Rose Witch's GY effect).

>>534590028
Visas Amritara can can pop your own monsters iirc

>>534590220
Needs light monsters.

>>534586202
https://youtu.be/bi9zXsY8e6Q?si=cpSJRpFwwXcxTWsn
Yes yes cherry picked games but still deck looks funny. Game 2 he did go 2nd against VSK-9 and win

>>534578613
That burn is hilariously huge. Demands an answer basically.

>>534588429
Doesn't Nerdy only works with monsters that mention a specific spell? I don't think she can summon Triamids since they don't mention the exact name of neither of the 3 field spells in the effects

>>534578638
1. It's Ashened support.
2. It's pretty good.
3. It isn't called Ashened, therefore it's fucking frustrating because you either need to open it or your only way to get it is via Chaotic Elements.

I hate when they do this. The art clearly has that Ashened/Dark Souls/Elden Ring sort of look, it's Dark Pyro, it's clearly meant for Ashened and basically ONLY Ashened, so why the FUCK not just include it into the Ashened archetype?
Yes, yes I am mad. I hate these support cards that aren't in archetype. Sue me.

links are the worst thing that happened to this game

Welcome back ariseheart (forma del bazing queen) she looks sick and maybe finds a place in true draco thoughts? Also she could be a nice addition for true kings if they were good i guess

>>534593397
Extinguished the Ashened searches her too so meh, I guess there is some decent searchability despite not having the Ashened name.

I never played Dracoverlords? Is the Amorphage ritual actually useful in it or does he only mentions dracoverlords because of the lore?

>>534593397
Oh and 4. While the card is alright, it doesn't solve the Ashened problem. It's yet another card which does Obsidim stuff BUT THE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THERE'S LIKE 20 CARDS THAT DO OBSIDIM STUFF AND OBSIDIM IS A HARD OPT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN JUST DESTROY IT MULTIPLE TIMES FOR GAIN.
They keep fucking making cards based around Obsidim which wouldn't be a problem if Obsidim wasn't SO FUCKING LACKLUSTER.

>>534594051
they should just give them a new field spell since the old one is awful

hosting eu casual

>>534594051
Replying to myself again because at this point, I'm starting to think we just need another field spell for the archetype that does Obsidim-like stuff, the entire deck is based around that shit and they keep making new cards for it but the card is lame as fuck.

>>534594341
Exactly, I concur. Another field spell that treats itself as Obsidim which also does stuff when it's destroyed etc. At this point I think that's what's needed.

>>534591714
>tfw you just get randomly burned for 9k after getting your shit flipped face down for daring to so much as breathe

>>534594624
just doing stuff when its destroyed isn't good enough
ashened needs the field spell on board to do anything so having it reset itself from the GY if a dark pyro is on the field is the only thing that would work

Tistina card next, right?

Makes me wonder what other TCG exclusives are going to get 1 support card in the new tins.

>>534595105
probably tistina and flame swordsman

Enneacraft is literally my dream flip archetype. It's just perfect.

unban halq, lacrima and linkross

Would beast-warrior be too much of a reach for a fusion that requires Dragon and Warrior types as materials?

>>534595858
halq cannot be unbanned
plants and poopsmith should not be buffed

>halq tagging into a yummy synchro

oh yeah baby

What is your favorite TCG exclusive archetype?

>>534597316
That is a reality I am very fortune that I don't live in.
>mfw if Sneed and Elf were both legal still

Flip doubters btfo.
Dude how annoying Enneacraft is going to be to go against? It's going to be another Memento-tier knowledge check. Billions of non-opt effects and all of its interruptions are coming from face down card and, keeping track of the counters and the burn etc. It's going to be fucking BRUTAL.
Imagine how many times the opponent is going to have to read every Enneacraft card that gets activated and how long each read will take because they have an entire novels worth of text on each of them.

Pot of Extrav deck? Check
Daruma deck? Check
Book of Eclipse deck? Check
Normal summon free so you can pick and choose what to run with it? Check
BASED Burn playstyle? Holy fucking shit check.

Oh yeah, I'm thinking this is ludokino. My faith in this glorious archetype has been VINDICATED. The synchro deck may as well pack it up, it's already over.
And someone pointed out on reveal that there's still basically a ton of space for all of the matching variants that are missing.

Ludo art, kino gameplay, oh yeah, we're gaming now. Yugioh is back baby.

>>534598921
>My music is gone
Fuck you catbox, you've failed me for the last time.

>>534598921
>Pot of Extrav deck? Check
>Daruma deck? Check
>Book of Eclipse deck? Check
>Normal summon free so you can pick and choose what to run with it? Check
>BASED Burn playstyle? Holy fucking shit check.

>>534598921
>Dude how annoying Enneacraft is going to be to go against?
End of Main?

lmao i didnt notice until now. Literal 1984.

Loli lolicon loli archetype with lolicon lolis when?

is there a way to abuse sloth in enneacraft?

ggs common, sorry for my misplays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZneYr_lrw8


also, IT'S TIME

>Added new cards
>From "Deck-Build Pack: Phantom Revengers":
- Enneacraft α' "orgIA"
- Enneacraft β' "alazoneIA"
- Enneacraft ϝ' "tromarIA"
- Enneacraft θ' "oknirIA"
- Enneacraft - Aizaβ.LEON
- Enneacraft - Astarγ.PIXIEA
- Enneacraft - Atoriϝ.MAR
- Enneacraft - Archaη.TAIL
- Enneapolis, the Sinquisition City
- Enneacraft - Release

>>534601821
i know
they are peak btw

hosting eu casual

>>534595951
No, I do that with fusions all the time. Fish + Warrior? Beast-Warrior. Insect + Warrior? Beast-Warrior. Reptile + Warrior? Beast-Warrior. Any regular guy riding an animal? Beast-Warrior.

What about shota archetypes?

Loli x Shota incest archetype when?

Futa furry archetype?

>>534578638
Looks cool but is also currently unplayable

>>534601821
>Ryzeal clog the board
>Immediately explodes after