Thread 534416470

>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM

>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo

>VV has a demo now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0

>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon

>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:
https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf

>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/

>真 /smtg/ plays is underway. we're playing smt 1.

Last cycle: >>533991797

first for chaos

>>534416470 (OP)
真 /smtg/ plays anchor post

真 /smtg/ plays page:
>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-plays
any suggestions for the event or rentry page?

>how's your playthrough going?
>favorite character?
>favorite alignment in 4 and why?
>favorite part?
>favorite demons?

also, sorry about the op. i'm retarded. thought i deleted the bit about the play event.

https://files.catbox.moe/lz2d5q.png
mt2 bad end

>>534417138
Nice.

>>534421714
Whoops

https://x.com/Atlus_jp/status/1953773882642673855
new survey, remember to ask for more quality remasters like Raidou HD :)

>>534427361
I'll ask for an SMT dating sim featuring all female demons and heroines.
Preferably with porn or at least with some spicy scenes.

>>534427361
>US only poll
Eh, you can't stop me from answering it
>We may also collect information about you from affiliates, unaffiliated third parties (such as log-in services, stores, social networks, business partners, service providers, and operators of gaming and app platforms who carry out various activities and services to support our Products
Fuck, I hope they don't filter non-american IP

>>534427361
It's so unfun to take surveys that are frontloaded with questions that dissect your lifestyle and how much time you spend on games. Dystopian shit. What do they even need it for anyway?

>>534417138
Hot. Who’s the artist?

>>534429845
https://skeb.jp/@yashuring2
Same name on twitter as well

>>534417138
NOICE

>>534427361
Done, it's just an updated version of last year's, 95% of the questions are the same.
Asked for both SMT1&2 remaster, a dating sim and no censorship.

>>534417138
I was expecting Pazuzu and fell kinda robbed ngl
Still hot tho

>>534429158
They make a killing off this data.

>mfw playing classic SMT
>MASAKADO MASAKADO MASAKADO MASAKADO
WHO TF IS THIS GUY HOLY SHIT
please tell me the other SMT games doesn't glaze this guy like crazy, kinda tired of japanese mythology always being put on a pedastal in these games jesus frick

How would you convert Press turn into acompetitive multiplayer system?

1. Normally (team with highest speed total acts first)

2. Like most RPGs (both teams input their moves at the same time and they play out in speed order. Hitting drains or reflects cancels further actions and hitting weakness and crits results in additional press turns next phase instead of extending the current one)

3. In-between (everyone acts in order of speed in a shared phase, but making moves and press turns work normally)

>inb4 you wouldn't

>>534431335
He does, but it's optional starting in SMT3.
>>534431481
Doesn't Imagine exist? 3.

>>534427361
I asked them to give Thor-sama his ass back. Then for SMT 1 and 2 remakes but I explicitly asked to keep the controversial and contemporary topics without going in too much detail.

Even if the remakes were shit, I just want more attention on the beginning of the series. More people need to know its roots and a remake would bring more eyes on the originals too. Think of Fire Emblem Awakening: that game spawned actual translations for FE4, FE5, Tearring Saga *and* Berwick Saga due to how stupidly popular it was.
There is a non-zero chance that decent or nice SMT 1 and 2 remakes would bring new fans with skills interested in working in the fan translation scene.

Anyway, it's all wishful thinking on my part so yeah, I don't know.

>>534431335
>please tell me the other SMT games doesn't glaze this guy like crazy
every game takes place in tokyo where he's been promoted from "historical failed rebellion leader" to "protective spirit of the city" and even when the games don't take place in tokyo he's usually level 80~ and busted

>>534431335
Buddy if you're bothered by his presence in classic smt, SMTIV will literally kill you.
Hes not even all that present in SMT1 or 2, 1 hes exclusive to one event in neutral route and in 2 hes a brief fetchquest.
In SMTIV hes literally the most important god with omnipotent powers to protect tokyo and even change the flow of time, hes even the true netural final boss (dlc locked though lol)

>>534431335
When the devs made SMT1, a bunch of shit that they described as occult or supernatural happened to them and it all went away after they went to pray to the Masakado shrine.
They felt grateful for it so they decided to include him in the game and wank him hard as a result.
And before you ask, no, I'm not fucking with you.

>>534431481
1 was done in Dx2.
I never played Imagine but I think it's 3.

>>534427361
i asked for a bunch of shit i know they won't do : )

>>534427361
I asked for another SMTV rerelease, your welcome fujos

>>534427361
I asked for a Soul Hackers 1 remake and nothing else

>>534434898
Cheers

>>534434898
You'll get a Soul Hackers 1 remake in the Soul Hackers 2 engine and Ringo will appear halfway through and derail the plot into OC territory.

>>534431335
I already told you about him also you shouldn’t be surprised that an influential Japanese historical figure is somewhat deified by a Japanese video game

Would I go to hell if time traveled into the past and raped Jean D'Arc while she was being held captive and waiting for trial?

>>534431836
BASED, I knew the Taira should have won and wiped the Minamoto from the face of the earth

>>534417138
>somehow defeat her
>joins the team via mind control
Is that the gist?

>>534439573
I'm pretty sure was divinely protected from rape, so you wouldn't be able to. Though maybe there were just less pedophiles back then.

VV is goyslop and if you consoom that shit then you're a good goycattle.

>>534445105
this but SH2

>>534427601
So MGQ Paradox?

>survey
>get to the part about SMT games you've played
>more than half of the list is NOT RELEASED IN NORTH AMERICA
I know you retards. Fix it. You've had years to fix this.

>>534442774
Wasn't a big part of her sentence the fact she refused to take off her armor while in prison out of fear of being raped?

>>534445796
they know people play the fan translations. they're not ignorant about them.

>>534448356
I know that but it's still kind of embarrassing isn't it?

>>534448453
yeah. they should remake smt 1 and 2 at least.

>>534448708
>remake
no.

>>534448708
I want Atlus to never touch anything made before nocturne ever again, not even ports, just leave it all alone.

>>534451028
Seconded. The remakes need to stop.

I love remakes and rereleases.

>>534451201
what if they got the old devs to work on them?

>>534451028
>>534451243
I get being against remakes, the industry could use the noggin for something that isn't scamming for once. But I think it's fine for a pair of 30+ year old game that only released in Japan on the Super Famicom aside form one game's temporary foray for IOS that can't even be played on modern devices to be on some international virtual storefront/physical release (even if its just Nintendo of America bank-rolling it as an exclusive).

>>534451524
The old devs should make a NEW GAME you vegetable.

>>534452886
Yeah a straight up port with a direct (not "localized") English translation would be fine but you know what's not what they'd do. They'd molest and violate them somehow.

>>534452915
why can't we have both, fruit basket?

>>534453172
Because that would take up time that's better used on NEW GAMES, meathead.

>>534451524
Kaneko is not coming back.

>>534448283
Not in prison specifically, but yeah a large argument of the prosecution was that she was a crossdresser (though it was more than dressing like a man, she also tried to pass as a boy by keeping her hair short) because they wanted to discredit her defense of being on a mission from God by calling her a pooner. Her defense for crossdressing was that it was purely to protect her chastity, which itself was something she was already hinging her bets on as evidence of her piety.

>>534416660
>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-plays
is it too late to register? I'll try doing a late start. I'm in the obelisk in Nocturne. So halfway through + SJ, I can probably start on the last week :D

>>534445796
>most of the games that feature Tsukuyomi aren't officially translated

>>534416660
>how's your playthrough going?
So far so good, I'm using keyboard controls which is making me get ambushed more often. It alone is making the game a lot harder than it usually is but I'm getting better at using the X key to attack.
>favorite character?
Walter.
>favorite alignment in 4 and why?
Chaos has the most fun elements to it.
>favorite part?
Infernal Tokyo
>favorite demons?
My favorite demons in the series changes over time, right now Hooligan is the goat in my party.

A classic collection, in the same vein as the castlevania classic collection would be nice, SMT 1, SMT 2, SMT... if, the devil children games, hell throw in Jack bros too for the hell of it, and a soundtrack and digital art books, it would be a good excuse to finally release these games to the west.

>>534462831
If they have an english localization I would buy the collection. Hopefully it would be on switch 1 and/or maybe xbox at least, since I would want a physical edition.

>>534462831
I don't see that happening unless someone launches some campaign like the retard who was spamming every single atlus social media account for a P5 PC port

>>534463434
get the ecelebs like larrve to do the work, they have to do something you know

>>534463775
none of these people are actively making videos

>>534464758
space marine is dummy thicc

>>534464758
Uau, hilário.

Law hero: I think we need to face facts. I believe our dear friend is a.... a
Chaos hero: A what?
Law hero: a fence sitter
Chaos hero: What!? There's no way. Here, let's not jump to conclusions I'll test it.
Chaos hero: Hey, MC can you come over here for a minute?
MC: Sure, what's up.
Chaos hero: I'm holding up two colors here, red and blue, pick one.
MC: Is beige like an option...?
Law hero: OH YHVH SAVE US! HE'S DOOMED!

>>534467057
oh my f*cking god i cant right now loooool XDDD

>>534467284
This but unironically.

I like the battle backgrounds in this game

>>534473047
>ronde was so powerful it erased anon's memory of every other atlus product he played before

I like my current party.

I'm using Death's Door much more often where before I thought it was a worthless skill, but sick bullets and pandemic bomb makes it easy to trigger. It's also a counter to hordes, since pandemic bomb can hit multiple times and Death's Door will auto kill instead of leaving at 1 HP. It's making me wonder if I should specialize Flynn's skillset for aliments.

Anybody have links to the pre-Nocturne TTRPG books? I think they were posted a few weeks ago.

>>534475802
Is there a reason why you're putting points into strength instead of Dex?

>>534480191
World of basic melee weapons. It out damages the medium level skills at this point.

>>534475802
trying to play IV with worthless skills and challenges makes the broken gameplay way more fun

>>534480191
>erm why aren't you min maxing this easy game

>>534480476
Huh, I had no idea 4's basic attacks could be competitive with skills. That's pretty cool.

So in SMT1, what is the point of Tokyo tower, that Gaian looking island to the south, and Ikebukuro after the flood? Also why did Masakado only give me his sword and not his armor? Did I miss a step?

>>534481870
Tokyo tower has an optional boss before the flood. If the island you're talking about is the one where you "feel a presence," you have to go to the lower floors of the cathedral first. You'll be told to return to the island once you do that. The prison in Ikebukuro is related to the law route. As for Masakado's armor, you get each piece by returning to the Heavenly Kings' manors after getting the sword.

>>534483004
>you get each piece by returning to the Heavenly Kings' manors after getting the sword.
Ah ok thanks for telling me.

>Tokyo tower has an optional boss before the flood.
Strange. I went in before the flood and looked around and all I saw was the tv station working there and then left. Does it unlock right before the flood like when you get the cathedral?

>>534483286
I'm not entirely sure myself. I asked the same question about Tokyo tower a couple threads ago, and that was where I heard about the pre-flood boss. After the flood, it doesn't seem to have any real use.

>>534483605
Well it has a terminal but it's also right directly next to the cathedral so it doesn't seem necessary.

>>534481708
You almost need multi hit weapons for it to be worth it due to the extra crit chance.

>>534481870
Tokyo Tower has a terminal, the island is a boss fight, and Ikebukuro is only relevant in the Law route where it's necessary for progression

>>534483286
Yeah, I think it triggers once the path to the Cathedral is opened (or after killing both Haniel and Echidna on the Neutral route). I also missed it the first time.

these old ass games with easily missable content make my head hurt

>>534485586
>Yeah, I think it triggers once the path to the Cathedral is opened
That's a retarded amount of backtracking. Oh well, wouldn't be the stupidest decision made in this game so far.

>>534485727
I love how most modern SMT games have zero missables so you don't need a guide

>>534486428
There are tons of people that still complain about how Yakumo's cutscene is easily missable in SMTVV.

>>534487674
Original anon here, I always think that's stupid for modern games because you can just look up a cutscene on YouTube. Whereas for these older niche games, playing them and looking for missable stuff feels like you're really trekking into unknown territory at times because a lot of this stuff isn't documented nicely anywhere

>>534487674
It's a bit hidden but it's not a true missable since you can get it any time before beating the game. There are other JRPGs where you can permanently miss things that prevent your characters from realizing their true potential. SMT doesn't need that garbage.

>>534488491
>It's a bit hidden but it's not a true missable since you can get it any time before beating the game.
It's gone when Koshimizu is, so that's not beating the game. You can jump out any time after Tiamat and walk around doing clean up.

>>534488647
I forgot you needed PM

I'm getting high out of my mind tonight, what occult related media should I experience?

>>534489404
Kenneth Anger’s Magick Lantern Cycle
Devil Rides Out
Holy Mountain/el topo
If you dare, repeat the call of the 30 aethers for the 48th aether (wouldn’t recommend anything higher for any newbies safety)

>>534489404
Ronde

>>534490628
>If you dare, repeat the call of the 30 aethers for the 48th aether (wouldn’t recommend anything higher for any newbies safety)
Do the higher levels require doing bodily harm to yourself or something?

>b-but it's like the reference to my ancient japanese scrolls when susanoo came out of some snake
NO FUCK YOU TSUKIYOMI FORM WAS WAY COOLER IM STILL FUCKING ASS BLASTED MAD REEEE

>>534494763
Aogami wins
Blue hair is cooler
Koshimizu is a cuck
Khonsu was right
Miyazu was right

>>534416660
>how's your playthrough going?
Good, gotta fight medusa but I'm only level 12 so no tamlin. I can probably get by with zun tun she
>favorite character? I tried to fight david at level 12 and he just rapes me with blight and Ogun is too bulky for me to kill even with buffs. Which sucks because I like beating bosses underleveled but it might be too much at this point
Isabeau I guess?
>favorite alignment in 4 and why?
Chaos, pretty easy to get and you skip Lucy's castle
>favorite part?
Going Tayama's kid farm
>favorite demons?
Marici, Mot, Isis

>>534458470
please post a name to register.

Master difficulty but look at how close this fight was. I was somehow able to poison here with poison claw and she killed her self

Red Rider is starting to annoy me so fucking much that I've been mimicking his soiface every fucking time I enter his fight. What a fucking asshole.

>>534502248
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>Asmodeus
You know, spirit drains + strong almighty/gun skills could've made him terrifying... If his needles weren't targeting my Null Gun Clotho (as in 6 out of 7 targeted Clotho). Note to Lilimbro she knows the secret to the chastity belt and may use it to lovingly tease him.
>Koga Saburo
EXP greed demanded a re-roll as his opening Javelin Rain crit and killed my Thunderbird. Also the 2nd boss I didn't look at my dlc armor and randomly stumbled upon his weakness, Thunderbird and my Zaccoum having ice to cover his weakness + fog/acid breath spam (Dionysus who also was doping the team) let a somewhat comfortable win. Somewhat comfortable because even in the winning attempt my ass clenched as Javelin Rain got a crit + Smirk but it was for a Ziodyne on Isabeau's head. No ailment for him or Asmodeus because I was too busy healing. Of course because I'm a dumbass I forgot pic related, I did use Tetrakarn to cheese the Grendel domain so its not like I didn't use shove a phys demon in a locker just forgot to do it here.
>Fusion autism
Firstly I broke a farm DLC because that was going to preserve some difficulty. I had Samyaza, Baphomet, and Mishaguiji in my party and I wanted their level ups without over-leveling myself and going into a demon autism loop that'd result in me getting an Alice before meeting Tayama somehow (I'm 46, just after Saburo, I easily could've gone farther into the deep end). Secondly, I hit the inflection point of Hell.
>Apps
The setup section has ended and now its all payoff, the scout apps were acquired and were as bullshit as I remember (screw Kurama Tengu, a random Hairy Jack got Zandyne). Furthermore my stock size is 13 instead of 9 so I have a lot more breathing room for recruit autism, my next 3 levels will be focused on the 8th Flynn skill slot (for what? Idk, I'm still pumping luck to the moon, maybe go to Str/Agl after 300?).

>>534502438
menorah face

post your "he's literally me" demon

>>534416660
>how's your playthrough going?
Good/fun. It is giving me perspective a bit for the things that IVA introduced and VV improved upon but it's not like IV's close to bad either. In some ways having such quick access to the high quality stuff is nice (for a frame of reference, Null Fire passive is 66 in IVA, level 29 in IV).
>favorite character?
Walter replaying the game there's just something endearing about him, maybe it's delivery that nails an earnest soul?
>favorite alignment in 4 and why?
From what I remember its Chaos. Recognize the ending is dark as hell, just that the build-up to me plays on the best angles of Chaos while Walter/Lilith/Lucifer all sell the impassioned rebellion. I am taking mental notes to see if there's build up to it beyond Infernal Tokyo/dreams.
>favorite part?
From what I recall, it's a tie between Isabeau's fight and Tayama's farm. The former is just a strong moment for Isabeau even if too easy that really sells the weight of your path chosen, while the latter is the most unnerving thing I've ever experienced (admittedly don't play horror games, their mechanics never clicked with me).
>favorite demons?
A specific from IV? Probably Koga Saburo or maybe Merkabah but I admittedly don't know much beyond the guest designs for IV.

>Nocturne
>Get to Yoyogi Park
>Wiped
>lol fuck you there's no terminal here so go fuck yourself now do the subway shit for 20mins to come back
oh my fucking god I once again got NOCTURNED! NOCTURNED WOOHOO

playing smt1 for the first time after being a persona nigger. feel like my blood pressure rises every time i see the words shibaboo and those fucking FAGGOT TERRAN FUCKS TRY IT. It's so fucking over. Fun game though

>>534509858
Try better next time

Isabeau...

>>534506561
I love titties and hot guys both

>>534512686
Doesn't really love Flynn. She's not loyal.

>>534378215
>Be Hawk Hogan
>Meet up with the surviving member of the mad scientist gimmicked tag team that betrayed the Center before the game started
>He tells me he'll let me in on the GM's real rib if I can bring him Miss Elizabeth.
>Beat Macho Man in a Hell at a Cell match and free Miss Elizabeth, however she was brainwashed into becoming a total mark for TMW (Tokyo Millennium Wrestling) and refuses to leave. we fix this by fusing her with a demonic smark to allow her the ability to form opinions again.
>On the way back to see the scientist, we find out that the VWA (Valhalla Wrestling Alliance) was consumed in it's entirety by an ass fatter than even Yokozuna.
>Enraged at the loss of innocent marks and potential royalties from action figure sales, Macho man goes into business for himself carving out a new territory in Holytown.
>Try to go to HQ and find out I've been Future Endeavored along with Macho Man, drift from place to place until I run into totally-not-Lucifer at a bar. He suggests that I can save Valhalla by traveling to the underworld to beat that fat bastard Abaddon in a Hell in a Hell match.
>While all of this is going on the Ultimate Warrior continues to challenge me to matches and get stomped until he tag teams with some peter pan gimmick twink to cuck me by brainwashing Miss Elizabeth AGAIN.
>After fixing it Warrior gets brainwashed by the local qt shy elf and drug store owner to experience gentle loving femdom with a stuttering awawa waifu for the rest of his days while I have to go win all of the championship belt pillars and find a missing action figure to have proper access to the underworld's wrestling territories.
IT'S NOT FAIR
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
NOT HIM

>>534486428
SMTV has a problem where a majority of the world building and lore is locked away in side quests.

>>534506561
Demons with guns makes me happy.

>>534513890
That's not as bad as the world building that makes entirely no sense if you don't have some basic Japanese mythology knowledge. Like the Proto-fiend tanks having the characters for the 3 sacred treasures on them explains the entire lore dump with Izanagi and if you don't know what that is when it's shown to you, it might as well mean nothing at all or all the lore that ties into it. There are other examples of this too surrounding the Amatsukami, so much so it feels like V was made entirely for the Japanese audience to understand and not the west.

>>534514530
Many side quests are about the Japanese viewpoints of Koreans too.

>>534506561
Wish they expanded his rivalry with Baal. Imagine a sidequest with him fucking beelzebub, belial, and all the demon offshoots because he really hates baal

The Warlord Earring in SMTlV and lVA is much stronger than you would expect. This mostly matters more in lVA where STR is actually good.

Multi hit weapons under counter, even if they can hit multiple characters, will always only hit the enemy they are countering. Weapons with multiple hits, like Headhunter, will counter multiple times. This makes Warlord Earring strong with luck builds, as counters become almost guaranteed after a while. In lV, you can effectively make it where you will are guaranteed to get smirk from countering.

This effect becomes 5x stronger when considering Critical Earring exists, where you are given much more opportunities to do a counter.

Fury Earring and Light Soul are even stronger versions of Critical and Warlord Earrings, where counters are given a mini charge effect to the counter, making the basic melee attack even stronger.

TL:DR; STR is actually good in lV and stronger in lVA due to luck based mechanics with counters and multi-hit attack abuse.

>>534513573
>Fuse three demons
>Get human
????
I've noticed that SMT2 has a smart and sometimes pretty subtle humorous edge to it. Some enemy designs and art choices make me feel like that's by design rather than a translator liberty, and that the game was at least partially influenced by Brazil and movies like it.

>>534416470 (OP)
uhmmm...
i need an adult

Yuko or Chiaki?

>>534521104
Demeter is a adult

>>534521330
Chiaki.

>>534518905
>Executioner + Alp + Jack O' Lantern gives me a level 38 demon that the game lets me fuse for some reason despite being heavily underleveled
Is this a glitch or do fusions involving humans just not have level limits?

>>534524862
Fusing humans breaks the level cap for fusion results.

>>534525051
Oh baby, I best get to farming marks.

Law Won

Asahi sex?

>>534513890
Like 95% of the same is side quests. VV is goyslop.

>>534513890
that's not a problem. you get as much out of the game as you personally invest in it. this has always been how storytelling and world building has worked in megaten.

>>534521330
finally a perfect opportunity to use this

SMT needs comfy farming mechanics.

>>534530121
What about a metroidvania?

>>534530394
Synchronicity

>>534521330
both retarded edgelords
(I bet you also think Edelgard did nothing wrong btw)
anyway, Chiaki makes more sense than Yuko and is not fueled by lowly resentment

>>534532752
how tf is Yuko an edgelord

>>534533236
fuck I read that as Yoko
I am retarded
the answer is very obviously Yuko
I apologize

>>534533375
ok, just don't let it happen again

>>534522147
Kyojiri Demeter

>>534521330
Chiaki

>>534513890
That's not a problem, that's a feature. SMT VV is an RPG. Try Final Fantasynif that bothers you.

It's curious how Masakado was absent from P5
>>534431335

>>534545785
>try FFVIII
>there is lore and story hidden in sidequests too
>go to a less story heavy genre
>try Donkey Kong Bananza
>there is lore and story hidden in sidequests too
>go to a less story heavy.genre
>try PuyoPuyo
>
it just never ends bros

>>534546150
Persona has a lot less Masa wank in general.

Yoko is not nearly as edgy as Chiaki. Yoko mellowed out a lot because of Tao. Chiaki went mental with no hope for a turn around real fast.

>>534545785
It's shit when the main game is absolute garbage and half the side quests are filler

First artist said they couldn't do it. I'm contacting a different artist to see if they are willing to do my animation idea. They seem much better.

>>534529017
>this has always been how storytelling and world building has worked in megaten
me when I blatantly lie

>>534556571
Can't wait to see it, I love Burroughs

>>534559418
talking to NPCs has always been the way you learn about the dynamics of the events in any given mainline megaten. the optional content of the SNES games are the "side quests" of modern gaming. if you aren't actively looking to learn about the world you don't deserve to know about it.

>>534427361
>PERSONA
>PERSONA
>PERSONA
>WILL YOU BUY THE PERSONA 4 REMAKE
>WILL YOU BUY PERSONA

>>534559823
>SMT IV is my favorite mainline
>P4 is my favorite persona game
>Tekken 4 is desu i played this game casually and it's pretty fucking dope and cool so I don't get the assblasted rage over it. probably not fun actually playing this competitively though.
why is 4 a magical number? I never played bn4

When Susano-o went gay, he OWNED this series. And basically, you're fucking stupid.

again I don't mind smt v having a gay relationship but it's not really there, like at least have the balls to commit jesus fuck i hate this we're going to be vague and then no its actually gay but not really. i fucking hated it in gundam since it felt so out of nowhere too.

>>534560463
It was vague in the original but they did commit to it in CoV.

>>534560463
>spoiler
Which series was that?

>>534427361
feels weird seeing 4chan mentioned by name on a official survey but whatever.
asked for ports of early / 3DS titles to modern consoles, a devil summoner translation and to stop using key-cards for their switch 2 releases.

>>534561003
g bitch. MC has been thirsting over one guy in like 3 episodes in the first season. and then I guess randomly despite barely spending ANY fucking character time together, they're all like "you're my bestie and I can't live without you!!!". tbf I haven't watched the second season but I can't imagine the romance getting any better.
>>534560524
....not really? i mean if you pick yoko, you're definitely not gay

>>534431590
SMT I and II still play fine and no remake will capture their atmosphere's.
best they could do is a port of the PS1 versions with the encounter rate turned down.

okay i've cleared yoyogi park 2 and im kinda backtracking to beat all the fiends now. I just beat red rider and holy fuck man even with a team specifically meant to beat his ass, he hits so fucking hard. my fault for not having rakukaja but still I have to be worried of his couple of attack turns wiping daisojou.

but i'm wondering is there any other ASS dungeons I have to worry about? good lord i freaking hate the dungeons in this game. it's one thing about the stupid ass puzzles, it's another with the empty ass corridors, high encounter rate and OMG WHERES THE FREAKING S TERMINAL

>>534560312
even numbers.
2 and 4 are always the best entry's of any IP you can ever think about.

>>534561790
>....not really? i mean if you pick yoko, you're definitely not gay
You didn't read any of the dialog explaining that ending. It's not in the ending itself but it's all still there.

>>534493646
No, just a bit too much energy to handle that you wouldn’t be prepared for

>>534477505
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/18H2vIHIMweTIH89fQkAVuttbn5s46kjS

>>534561793
You don’t want to at least see an attempt at a detailed fleshing out of Tokyo Millennium? Wouldn’t it at least be cool to explore it with modern graphics

>>534564112
I can't imagine Atlus ever making a game like that. It would take them a decade to finish.

>>534561790
>I haven't watched the second season but I can't imagine the romance getting any better
It doesn't but yurifags are carrying g witch despite being the worst gundam anime I ever watched.

>>534566523
G witch is being carried by the porn unironcally.

>>534562178
3 is usually peak too. 6 is usually the stinker though.

>>534562178
>Devil May Cry has entered the chat.

>>534567091
eh it's not that great desu. genuinely surprised it didn't get really good quality stuff same with gquaks. SEED probably has the best but there's not much god tier stuff.

>>534567781
2 is so overhated it's not even funny. just turn your brain off and OH COOL ZOMBIE TANKS. HOLY SHIT IM JUMPING ON SKYSCRAPERS. it's a literal sonic game lmfao.

>>534568201
>Avery has entered the chat.

>>534568297
are you saying I'm Avery?

>>534567791
Gundam porn varies overall, you would expect more porn would exist for some of the spinoff girls, but it's mostly limited to the more popular ones.

>third kalpa
>jumpscared by dante several times
>really don't want to redo this section
>lose to his boss fight
>have to redo everything again
dante seemed pretty cool up until he starts scaring the shit outta me.

it's so fucking annoying because I got robbed since he had low health and i just got crit.

>>534572795
Dekunda minimizes his boss fight a little and get a magatama that negates his Insta death proc

I think we need to return to a six unit party

>>534573659
he barely attacked it's just showtime + his electric attack thing, my 4x sukaja buffs didn't dodge either of them. otherwise it was debuff so he wastes a time with holy star. buff on the turns. Focus -> Divine Shot and he went down pretty quick.

>>534564112
i'd rather just have a collection of the SNES / PS1 era smt games with some cool box art just like another anon said.

I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes

going through nocturne, uh why didn't demifiend just stay with his friends or get his friends to stay with him. it's kinda dumb he leaves them to do their own thing when they have no demons nor any strength to do anything.

wait, what the fuck was the hd remaster retranslated? no way they were using this phrase back in 2004.

>>534574541
I agree.

>>534579918
It was indeed restranslated

I want Yuzuru to fill PM Koshimizu's holes.

>>534580589
PM Koshimizu can make duplicates of himself and thus fill all of Yuzuru's holes but Yuzuru can't

>>534581037
If Dazai and teleport, Yuzuru can duplicate himself if he tried.

>>534581341
But Yuzuru hasn't shown that he has that ability...

I wish the booru still existed in some shape or form, I found this artist on tumblr named spoileddairy and they are cool

>>534582543
What did YHVH mean by creating bondage angels?

I won't image spam, but it's nice finding new art you've never seen before.
https://files.catbox.moe/8zdo93.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/un0zj9.png

>>534582720
Law in of itself is a BDSM fetish

This is a dumb question but, Amanozako is part proto-fiend or something right? Wouldn't that mean she can be capable of fusing with V-kun?

>>534581618
Koshimizu enjoyed it while you were busting your ass in chiyoda.

>>534584404
Amanozako isn't part of one, she is one. She tells you she is literally made out of Aogami. The tengu shoved a creation goddess soul into her which is what changed her into Amanozako instead of being a standard Aogami. And I would imagine there would be problems fusing with her because you absorbed a big portion of her magatsuhi to keep her from going insane. Remember Miyazu's quest in CoC?

>>534585024
Excellent! I've had this what if scenario in my mind for a while, fusing with Amanozako would've made for a far more interesting second half of the game.

>>534585895
If Amanozako didn't make you absorb her magatsuhi I don't see why they couldn't fuse. The only other problem would be the extra soul inside her but there really isn't enough info on what that would do in fusion.

>>534581821
pixiv works fine for most stuff thankfully

>>534582720
I remember kaneko actually doing a interview where he broke down why he depicted the angel in bondage but its lost to time

>>534586880
"I was horny." - Kazuma Kaneko

>>534587168
nah, it was actually more than that, i believe he wanted to incorporate the idea of law being blind like lady liberty or something.

>>534586223
Hmmm... well I imagine with all that power, Amanozako's absurd levels of magatsuhi plus the soul of a creation goddess, the resulting fusion would be extremely unstable, like nuclear incident levels of danger, which is good in a narrative sense, the MC wants vengeance for what happened to Aogami, so what better why to do that then go nuclear and take everyone down with him.

>>534582720
It's an analogy for the control they give to YHVH, like how some of the other angels are robotic. I think the BDSM angel concept is way cooler than the robotic one and I wish they went farther with it because there's a lot of potential there. Imagine if SMT had more demon designs like this.

>>534521330
Yuko because she doesn't have a fivehead.

>>534518905
I don't care if they were just being silly, Terminator is unironically one of the coolest demons we've ever gotten and he isn't even one.

>>534579616
They are of a chaotic disposition

>>534591378
Check 'em

I forgot how terrifying this boss can be.

No SMT will ever approach the kino level of Nocturne again.

>>534596110
Strange Journey?

>>534596110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNUTOlOljiA

>>534596110
SMT1

You've heard of necroma
But have you heard of... dickroma?

Nocturne spoilers

What the fuck was Hijiri's deal? He goes from "hey I'm here to help you out kid :)" to "FUCK YOU I DESERVE TO CHANGE THE WORLD NOT ANYONE ELSE AHHHH" to "noooo i totally wasn't going to sacrifice anyone but like if you're gonna kill me do it already"

>>534602695
Something along the lines of delving too deeply with the occult and being corrupted by it with the amala drum as the factor.

>>534602763
What was even his plan? If he was going to be a jerk and play you like a fool, why the fuck did he go going "noooo, I totally wasn't gonna do that"

Hiroko is so insanely hot, she might be kanekos human character magnum opus

>>534603226
He had no plan at all, the game just disposes of him when he's no longer needed to guide you with his visions. Maniax added some background to him which is still better than nothing.

>>534604091
Blonde women in smt are always hot

How come no one here mentioned that 4chan was on the Atlus poll?

>>534606448
it has been on it for a while

>>534606525
Really? Was it on there last year?

>>534604091
God I wish I was Daleth.

>>534607218
I think it's been there for the past 2-3 years

>>534579918
example #9999 on why i hate localizers for japanese games.

>>534606448
>he doesn't know Atlus glowies browse this general

>>534606448
brother there's unironic raidou remaster shills on here lol. who do you think they work for?

>>534608591
To know is one thing, for them to admit it is another.

You know it sucks that in the past 5 years I went to the Vietnamese basket weaving forum to talk about like five games total and I didn't get passively called a shill for two of them.
(I pirated all of them too except one but I didn't get called a shill for that it because Neo TWEWY threads were made by genuine oldfags)
For all the pissing, shitting and crying about old 4chan I see on this general there sure is a lot of Current Year 4chan cancer coming from the same whiny crowd. Whole fans of a subseries get nagged until they quit so they can at least stop dealing with mentally ill schizos who think they're so cool for posting on this shithole. Entire debates over sales (useless shit that's got nothing to do with the actual games) and discussion dominated by "oh that is the so-and-so schizo, he makes posts on saturday night".

I had genuinely good moments posting here many years ago so what the fuck happened? I thought /vg/ emancipated itself from /v/ but I guess not. The month or so of death there was back in April or whatever made sure only the most annoying posters get to reign supreme over a place where there is no community commitment to talk about a niche japanese series. Why is there talk of sales and shills to fucking begin with anyway? Megami Tensei will always be niche.

Out of Nocturne/IV/SJ, I can't remember IV and SJ that much but Nocturne feels legit sometimes a puzzle game where if you don't have to right strat to handle a boss fight too bad you're wiping while the other games feels like you can easily strong arm through. (didn't get far in SJ though so idk how true that is)

>>534611627
This post did not sell well

>>534611627
didn't read.
congratulations or sorry that happened.
whichever applies.

i forgot how funny the gag 4koma atlus used to have were. peak shitposts

>>534606448
Legitimate glowies dwell here. Either from the one dude who name dropped the qiatsu the day before we got the official info about them or the one atlus glowie who had their work email in the Name section

atlus glowie, what are your thoughts on Avery? these are the types of people that you have attracted with your video games.

>>534617730
Plot twist: they hired him to make detractors of their games look deranged.

>>534427361
Done, asked for Raidou 3, Raidou 2 remaster and Devil Summoner remaster.

>>534582754
The look heroine give me as I pace back and forth in Yama's jail cell. She knows I'm incompetent.

Madam DEFINITELY gets fucked by Cerberus right?

>>534621982
she gets fucked by multiple men

>>534513573
Exploration of the Lucha Underworld continues, though we had to take a break to grind out some more magnetite to pay the boys in the locker room with.
We met some dwarven midget wrestlers who gave us the Saturn championship pillar and further down we found an encampment of smarks and mutants banished from the city above for refusing to mark out for the ultra PG era of Tokyo Millennium wrestling where there would be no dangerous spots, no blade jobs and worse yet, ads play mid match. In the face of this oppression they fled and now must keep the spirit of hardcore wrestling alive in the backyards and cheap community centers of Old Japanford's ruins.

>>534621982
Cerberus is too loyal to cuck his master.

>>534622941
Her chains represent chastity tho

>>534625019
https://files.catbox.moe/4klacn.MOV

>>534579616
the Remake will fix this

>>534581451
explain this image
>>534581341
>>534581037
after images with mass?

>Cernunnus
Toot the horns because I finally got my first 1k+ damage move off a concentrated Zandyne from a Gui Xian. If I were to complain anything about the quest it'd be that Nozomi could've had being a damsel in distress as a unique attack from the hordes instead of something at the start of the horde battles (and for Cern, he brings up a horde to do it and beating him frees her, frail enough the 4 round counter's fine). Not a difficulty thing but more to let Nozomi have more agency in her side quests (and how the fuck are they capturing her when she's behind my army of giga-chads, I have a Concentrate High Pleroma Zandyne with their name on it).
>Panic Caster
Fuck this spell, why does it pierce ailment resistances? Had this nice idea about Panic Caster Alice and instead had to settle with Concentrate because Null Panic means nothing I guess. Not like it'd be much better than Concentrate in terms of MP efficiency but in theory should be better in raw DPS if you're able to hit a weakness.
>Story
So I said hi to Tayama and got sent to Ginza but haven't gotten farther. Also 10/10 joke from Isabeau on confusing School with kidnapping children. Place a bet, do you think Tayama was sweating considering his inclinations or laughing at fleshy aliens seeing school as kidnapped children?
>Pic related
Welcome to motherfucking Ginza my friends. Samurai, Hunters, lawfags, chaosfags, neutralcucks, let's all settle our differences aside and cherish this demon Safari Zone. Let's frolic for hours on end, holding hands as we pinch every penny and climb the fusion (and level) ladder like mad. I was able to have a Hare hit 42 for Null Gun/Fire as a side thing to just exploring and scouting every demon not stapled down. And the worst part? I'm not done, should have one area left to explore though idk macca prices, and then I might say hi to Yuriko depending on where I'm at fusion wise and if I'll gain a level or two to make fusion tree like I did for Alice.

>>534582754
schizo here, please post more
w-what is that second image??

>>534427361
IMAGINE SMT VI has Dark Souls world design with SMTV overworld gameplay, that would genuinely be amazing

Hmm it would seem my lack of multiple save states has finally come back to bite me in the ass, I'm locked in the fight with Pazuzu in KMT2 and cannot win. My last save was prior to obtaining Atlas.
Welp.

Bring back sword fusion

omg im getting wrecked by retaliate.
this is fuccking stupid who meme'd me that SMT 3 is world of STR?

>>534589069
what demon is that?

>>534630916
Nocturne is WORLD OF VIT until late game

>>534596110
that's why SMT made V tho

>>534631154
>SMT made itself
woah...

Just beat Xi Wangmu but was I underleveled? The electric res and take minakata helped me kill turns but megaton press was fucking me up and I had to hope MC would dodge. Unfortunately this is the last time the game gets crazy hard until Kenji

where is everybody?
don't tell me you normalfags are doing shit on a Saturday night...

>>534635773
I'm playing Strange Journey...

>>534635773
Went gambling and up 300$. Now im just chilling watching horse anime

>>534635773
Was doing a bit of more SMTIV Ginza autism but now off to be a healslut and carry my friends.

>>534635773
i've been drawing, but i finished this one in celebration of /SMTG/ playing SMT IV.

I'm late but I wanted to post that I finally got around to finishing smt1. I got the neutral end for the first time.
I like the dialog much more here than in the other endings.
My biggest takeaways from playing the game again:
>I know I played on neutral but even when I played on hard the first time the game is insanely easy. Anything zio inflicting shock on almost all the end game bosses was too much. I think smt 1 might be the easiest game in the series.
>too much maze like dungeon design with nothing going on where the only challenge is switching back and forth from automap which is purely tedious
>the floor where you get the sword for fusion and the second half of destiny land were the only dungeons I liked sadly out of the whole game
>I like that the chaos hero and law hero are fairly grounded individuals before they become radicalized
>that said, their radicalization is pretty forced with law hero basically being brainwashed into a different character but even chaos hero jumping to needing demon fusion on himself so suddenly without considering any other options was very rushed
>the heroine bitching at me in the prison cell was the most fun part of dialog from her and I wish I got more

The funniest thing about my run was the demon I kept from beginning to end. And it was Kushinada. I fused her on a whim when she popped up in possible combos and I thought I'd fuse her just for fun because of the names I was using. I fully planned to fuse her away after a couple screenshots. Instead she was my most valuable player. She was my heroine's MP battery and also my primary Estoma caster. And I was so thankful for being able to cast Estoma any time in the late game because I'm so over leveled at that point and it was nice to just be able to walk around freely when I had 16 floors to scale.

So yeah, Aogami beat the game with both of his wives, just as it should be.

>>534638487
This looks really good anon! Great job.

>>534639324
>So yeah, Aogami beat the game with both of his wives, just as it should be.
I hate you

>>534636906
hey, I just started a SJ playthrough too
we having our own /smtg plays/...

It's been nearly two decades since the last time SMT had good music

>>534611627
>Megami Tensei will always be niche.
It hasn't been niche since SMT IV. Most people(Which I do mean casual gamers) have played and beaten SMT IV, IVA, Nocturne (HD), V, VV, and probably the DDS games too. Your mindset about the popularity of this franchise has been invalid for years.

>>534629901
zelen having sex with jimmenez

smt 4's lucifer's dub is so good.

>>534640763
Doi did it first.

>>534640908
That's cool, who's in your current team? The SJ compendium is massive, definately one of the higher points of the game.

>>534630973
Sorry, I phrased that oddly, it's not an SMT demon, it's from an erotic horror OVA called Malice@Doll by the same writer as Lain. I used that image to illustrate that BDSM is an untapped goldmine for great monster designs, especially with the ironic contrast of being angelic.

>>534623368
>Looking for more championship pillars by exploring the smark mutant settlement
>Get roped into a scheme to bring the ancient promotion NJPW back to power by an ancient manager, starting by freeing their GM by putting him back together
>Finding most body parts proves simple, big brain my way to finding the head by remembering the random scavver in the mega church who was complaining about how the only thing he found was a severed head and was wondering how the fuck he was going to sell it.
>After resurrecting him he tells me to help grab the rest of the management from the local cave
>After freeing Amaterasu she essentially tells me "the jews did this" in gentler words.
fucking kek.

>>534621982
You just know.

>>534630916
as other anon said, VIT actually scales your phys attacks more lol

>>534630916
>who meme'd me that SMT 3 is world of STR?
The fandom in general, you now know why normalfags are not welcome in 4chan.
Here, read pic related.

If heroine didn't mysteriously vanish sometime after the events of 1 do you think she would have gotten along with madam?

The generic enemy drop hand in quests in IV aren't required for anything right? Its just extra EXP? I was considering doing all the quests since I've not done so in my previous run, but honestly its making me burn out wasting time on these obviously substanceless fetchquests l
So I'm thinking of just doing the real quests and skipping these machine generated hand in 8 tangata manu claws type ones if theres nothing I miss out on by doing so

Damn, Isabeau is fucking tiny
Imagine...

Maken remake status?

I need help finding a post that covered Kaneko's design process. It had this image of Cu from lineart to rendering. Anyone know what I mean?

>>534678112
Did they clarify if this was the west and Japan combined or what?

>>534678302
>2024 jp survey

>>534678450
I know it's 2024 you stupid fuck, that wasn't my question.

>>534678668
>jp

>>534678668
>this is the average intelligence of """people""" I share a general with

>>534679158
Its been dropping since V released and never really stopped

Beach dlc, when?

>>534684436
There won't be any more DLC little bro, move on

>>534684565
People said the same after V released for years.
>they're afraid of spoilers and won't do interviews, they are probably working on the game again
>lol retard they moved on, V is dead
>VV comes out
>they're afraid of spoilers and won't do interviews, they are probably working on the game again
>lol retard they moved on, VV is dead

Just the waiting game now.

>>534684962
Two more moon cycles

>>534676579
atlus could do it easily for cheap, but they might not want to since it won't make 10+ million instantly

>>534684962
Yeah but the thing is, the former statement is retarded and I assume said by tourists. Its an atlus game, it was gonna get a rerelease like all of their games do.
Metaphor is gonna get one too at some point.
I don't think theres any reason to suspect extra dlc for the rerelease like a year later though, thats completely unfounded.

>>534685726
>completely unfounded
>game needs a switch 2 update
Yes, very unfounded.

>>534685887
>change framerate cap from 30 to 60
>run in 1080p in handheld mode
that is all you're getting, retard-kun

>>534686131
Then why is it taking so long?

>>534686182
99%+ of Switch 1 games don't have a Switch 2 update...

>>534686308
VV is already released on PC and upscalled. It's even steam deck compatible. The game has already been updated they simply need to release it. Many of the games you're referring to don't need switch 2 updates or require more work that hasn't been done yet.

>>534686428
>Many of the games you're referring to don't need switch 2 updates
VVfags truly are retarded

>>534686782
>99% of games need switch 2 updates
I see more people saying how many switch 1 games run better on switch 2 with no updates needed. If what you claim is true, I'm not seeing it. Nintendo also has a list of switch games that aren't playable on switch 2 and it's a very short list.

>>534687384
Most games have better performance, but you're ignoring that they look worse in handheld mode because it is 720p stretched over 1080p. Every game that hasn't been updated runs at 720p. Maybe you only play your Snitch docked but most people play it in handheld at some point and that's a huge problem to have.

I just realised, the mask the archangels in kagome tower are forced to wear are referencing the mask forced on izanami in megami tensei. The sprites pretty small but you can see the third eyehole and the whiskers coming off it

>>534687757
>you're ignoring that they look worse in handheld mode because it is 720p stretched over 1080p
I wasn't trying to honestly because it depends on the game. For some games it's game breakingly awful and for others it's not that noticeable. V is one of those games that's so blurry in handheld on switch 2, it's a headache to play. But for some other graphically demanding games it doesn't look that bad. MH Stories 2 and MH Rise look pretty ok despite the stretched resolution but if you try to play Generations Ultimate the blurriness is extremely noticeable.

Are you people honest to god going to pay a fat 70 dollars just so you can play, a slightly nicer looking V/VV?

>>534690630
Last I checked no one is asking for VVV here. Even the survey says they are trying to move away from rereleases and do DLC instead. It should be an update dlc like most everyone else is doing.

>>534690946
Charge
Desperate Hit

>>534689843
NTA but there is also one other thing to consider no one else is mentioning. VV is very new being only a little over a year old. It pretty much came out right at the end of the switch's life span. Now imagine one of the RPG titles that gets nintendo exclusivity first before other consoles is playing sub optimally on their new hardware. A game that practically just came out. Nintendo probably wants them to update it. But this is also Atlus and getting the game on switch 2 is a chance to make more money off the game. I don't think they need to release a switch 2 version, but dlc across platforms with switch 2 as an excuse gets them more money and more sales outside of switch.
I don't want to say this means dlc is definitely coming. But this creates incentive for them to make it.

By itself, which game had better gameplay? P3 or Nocturne? On one hand I think Nocturne's gameplay is more tuned to be more RNG but everything is more of a set pattern. P3 is heavily breakable but just because of how XP works (MC going solo is actually meta and it's funny for a game about friendship and shit, leaving your friends in the backburner to chomp all the XP is actually optimal, I find it insanely stupid when youtube normies put videos like can I beat P3 with just the protagonist and I'm just like .....).
Nocturne you can't really do that though, and there's a lot of bosses you can't beat by just unga bunga. With the way buffs work too, it's always a gamble if your buffs stay or not. P3 formula most bosses barely use dekaja or dekunda so it's mostly about pattern recognition and knowing the next time to refresh buffs.

>>534689357
>>534689532
Neat

>>534692996
Nocturne doesn't have calendar shit so it wins no diff

>>534692996
smt4. but nocturne in this case obviously.

https://p-ch.jp/enquete2025_en/
Please fill out the 2025 Atlus survey if you haven't already. Your voice matters as a member of the Shin Megami Tensei community.

>>534696523
>>534427361

>>534696523
virus do not clicking

Second /smtg/ plays event where I've come here and not found a witch... Maybe third time will be the charm?

>>534676579
Never in a million years.

>>534678121
Sorry anon, closest thing I have is this description of how the makes sprites.

>>534653767
>Free the Factory from it's forced markishness for the Center after beating a degenerate toilet themed jobber demon. Also nab another championship pillar from the now freed workers.
>In the process beat Ric Flair in what was honestly a pretty unnecessary "I Quit Life" match since I would have been totally cool with letting him keep his little digital Starrcadia fiefdom regardless of whatever else was going on.
>Team up with Macho Man to invade the TMW headquarters, and end up fighting the management in a tag team match for their world championship belt. Macho man was too busy getting stoned to actually help so Miss Elizabeth and Hawk Hogan are on their own.
>Beat them clean, but the GM runs in. Gets taken down as well but not before getting a few cheap shots in with a Mahamaon steel chair to the back of Cerberus and Hraesvelgr's heads.
>The one surviving manager turns face and heals me before the owner cashes in Money in the Bank to challenge me one more time.
>Pin him clean thanks to the prior healing keeping me fresh.
I'm so confused, I can't tell if I've locked in for an alignment at this point. Gabe's suggesting that the YHVH we just beat was a dirty phony.

>>534606448
what does this mean

>>534701381
They ask which website you use to find porn of their games

>>534643685
NTA, but I finally finished my run of Strange Journey last night. Final party was
>Huang Long
>Ouroboros
>Thor
The Ouroboros was a recent fusion for the final boss and she was packing ref Wind/Fire/Ice and drain Elec. Huang Long had been a long term goal and I ground out the last couple levels to make him right before the final boss. It was absolutely worth it because the guy hit like a truck and was an absolute tank. Thor was a recent addition who was mostly there as filler, but he actually put in work.
My party prior to that was Barong, a Kinmamon I had held onto for too many levels, and a rotating member who was usually either Alice or Rangda. Sadly, they were all eating shit way too easily against final boss's AoE spells, but otherwise Barong probably would have been in the final party.

>>534702310
>she was packing ref Wind/Fire/Ice and drain Elec
Damn, did you go throught the trouble of farming sources or just used the password generator? I'm not judging.

how would you fix IV's gameplay
I'm thinkin:
>add skill affinities
>IVA version of smirk
>no almighty skills on flynn or at least higher mp cost
>make everything less squishy, both player demons and enemies
>save rooms, no more saving anywhere (smirk fix and stronger demons should make stupid ambush insta-wipes less of an issue)
what else

>>534703061
I farmed out the sources because, for a while, I was just fusing anything I could, leveling them to get their sources, and then fusing them into something new. The third and fourth party slots were usually dedicated to whatever new demons I rotated in throughout my playthrough to keep things fresh. Source farming got tedious after a while and was probably why I took like a month long break from the game right before the final boss. I was also really stubborn about using them for most of the game since you can't easily get them back, but any time I did use one the resulting demon usually rode with me for a while.

>>534678121
tfw when u learn the final coloring/shading for his stuff was actually done by some other artist...

>>534704358
how else do you think he could have cranked out 200+ designs a game

does no one ever talk about how annoying the tunnels are in the kalpas? I'm trying to grind macca but fuck me I can't get a perfect run, it's such garbage since I mess up once and that's it. so much fucking jank man

>>534708991
dandori issue

>>534709703
Pikmin?

>>534710505
@grok is dandori a real word

>>534708991
I'm bad at it too so I just farmed random encounter instead.

>>534710832
yes, it means "the pleasure of being cummed inside"

>>534431335
oh boy! i sure want to see an entire bracket composed of the same 3 demons with the exact same skill set!

this game is interesting but having only 3 skill slots feels a bit restrictive

>>534720675
>Str + Vit
oh no

>>534720675
N what anon?

Ringo...won? What?

>>534721857
Nickname
>>534721480
that never failed me before

Almost done with Nocturne! I'm going to go with (Freedom) first, try to beat SJ and then try to start 4 on the third week/fourth week of our smtg let's play and clear it then (probably not).
I want to go back to eventually beat TDE but I want to start grinding as much as I can now so I can steamroll ToK as fast as possible and reduce grinding after the lock.
How does my demons look so far?
Kali + Abaddon + Beidou are strickly farming demons with Attack All + Drain Attack and so on. I can remove them to make space.

What's the best XP grinding zone to get as much of a boost? Surprisingly Yoyogi Park 2 seems solid but it's not consistent. I've tried Fifth Kalpa's TDE room and Second Kalpa's Cursed Corridor but they keep having the freaking stupid reflect phys demons.

I'm starting to get tired of Kanekofags.

I'm starting to get tired of Ringofags.

I beat Xi in SMT4 but I cannot find the South West entrance. I've been trying to find it for the past hour.

>>534722191
>How does my demons look so far?
That question is kinda pointless when we don't know their skills but if you managed to get this far, you'll probably manage.

Also the Labyrinth of Amala is not a good place to farm, solely because going to the save point is a pain in the ass.

I thought it was blocked...

>>534724551
It's less I wanna manage but it's more I want to go in with the same team and go out with the same team. don't want to go part way then realize I do a fusion autism stuff and that time is wasted if I wanna do TDE since I'm already after the lock and I have to go on a previous save.

there were references to SH2 in Raidou Remastered, right?

>>534727785
Haha

>>534727785
There's a hidden Ringo superboss you unlock after fusing every sword in the game

>>534676579
I'd love a port

>>534678302
it never includes west and you can tell by how IV isn't in the top 3

>>534731187
I thought nips liked IV because it reminded them of the SNES titles

>>534731337
the game received lots of backlash because of the new designs and art and it was just controversy after controversy that made some feel like the handing of IV was careless. in general there is a core part of the old fanbase that dislikes it to this day because it just made too many risky changes they didn't like. it sold well, it reassured some who are happy just to get new games that the series isn't dead and it doesn't mean some jp people aren't die hard fans of it. but without Kaneko there's little nostalgic value to those references.

>>534731931
they're right and I like IV. the game is very sloppily put together.

>>534732296
I agree, the game is very clearly a bunch of ambitious ideas put together and not very well QA tested but there is ambition and there's lots of it, which makes it very hard for me to dislike. at the moment I thought they were too harsh, but when I was surfing the jp web for opinions on IV I was very new to jp fan spaces and didn't know that's more or less the fan culture there.

>>534732915
it just saddens me all the improvements are in such a dogshit followup. i tend to be that guy who whines about remakes but this would have been the best case to just remake IV upfront with all of apoc's improvements.

>>534733186
not to fire up IV:A fans because the game has charm and is fun and I can see that, but the more I played it the more I disliked it. the content it has to offer feels shallow to me for some reason.

>>534733535
it being a fun game is the problem. its a story heavy rpg with some of the worst writing in megaten. it somehow also lacks in the sheer number of things to do IV has.

>>534733663
it's not just that it's bad, it's fundamentally uninteresting in a way no other mainline game is. my experience with the mainline game is that the more you play attention to the game the more detail and story will be revealed to you about it, but IV:A disappoints me in that regard through and through. not even vanilla V is like that.

>>534734115
i'm absolutely a V/VV hater too but even I can say they're leagues ahead of IVA.

I had to change up my party, and I'm fully focusing on luck instead of STR since my whole game plan is dependent on making my luck as strong as possible at this point. I'm using a spear and it still has a 50% chance to only hit once which kills my MC's DPS.

My current goal is to fuse King Frost when possible and to use in battle fusion to try to transfer his main skill if it's even realistically worth it. Frost Ace is better than him in every way anyways.

I think once my MC's luck gets to 150, it's going to start breaking the game for crit/smirk chances. I know around 200 it's almost guaranteed to get a crit and a smirk with each melee attack.

>>534739315
>in battle fusion
Cold World is not a signature skill, there's only 5-ish signature skills that'd require in-battle fusion that aren't a DLC demon. Demonee-ho's skills (of which one is a worse Fatal Sword, same MP and targeting but less damage), Babylon Goblet on Mother Harlot, Die for Me! on Alice, and Shivering Taboo on Izanami/Magatsuhi/Chemtrail/Vasuki (all 4 learn it but can't transfer over).

>>534701283
>End up in hell after a drill attempts to pierce the heaven in Holytown
>Wander around doing house shows against various mudshow gooners until I get grabbed by Gremory and brought to hell's wrestling HQ
>Triple H-E-L-Lucifer reveals himself and cuts a promo attempting to sway me to his side
>Immediately get yoinked by Gabriel so Macho Man can cut a promo hoping to keep me loyal to his company instead, citing the reforms after the heel managers were defeated.
>Must choose between Lawful PG wrestling, Chaotic hardcore botch-tacular wrestling, or going into business for myself.
In all seriousness this is a much tougher choice than in SMT1 where both sides were just the vanilla and chocolate flavored variants of full ideological retardation. Both sides seem reasonable, acknowledge the shitty parts of their factions and seem to genuinely be trying to do what's best for their people with the hands they were dealt.
I'm honestly not sure who to pick or if I should just go neutral. It's actually impressive they put so much nuance into what was at the time a pretty primitive storytelling medium.

Lilith's reveal got me thinking about the white considering Issachar due to a train of thought I don't remember exactly, did write down my conclusion though.
>White (food for thought)
The Whites, from my memory at least, each represent a "fake" take of an alignment. Hugo is failed Law, too above the Law to be of bound by true order. Isabeau is simple fence-shitter, the coward who makes a choice way too late for it to matter. Navarre is cowardice of a different token, actively choosing to run away instead of confronting the situation. And then there's Issachar, who would then be failed Chaos. Despite reading Literature and attempting a metamorphosis, he never became a full demon. Now its possible this is because the can whoopass came too fast but I think its more interesting that he failed by a lack of will. He couldn't be envious enough to hate the rules of Mikado to fully become a demon like the others of the black sabbaths that make up Kiccigorgi (and perhaps elsewhere).

>>534741190
Thanks. It's been a while since I played 4.

>>534744860
Issachar will actually speak through the white if you kill the white version of him, with his soul supporting the white. It mirrors what happens during Law/Chaos when fighting the final boss for those routes where they speak during the death screen.

>>534745364
As mentioned I was mostly going off of memory of the fight, I knew Issachar spoke but can't tell you what the exact lines were. Idea was a concept I thought of that could tie the White together as a bad-end thing for all alignments when I originally envisioned them as just Neutral at its absolute worst. Done with SMT for the night (typing out my progress post) but about to meet the archangels after starring at True Evil so I'm still a bit fair off from saying hi to the White.

>>534746486
I remember the monochrome forest taking 2 minutes, so it doesn't even last too long

I can finally move onto SJ. Now I'm debating if I should do this on OG console (hacked 3ds) or Steam Deck + PC on Retroarch like I did SMT 1 and 2?

Something I thought was cool about the neutral route in SMT1 I forgot to mention.

After you killed Vishnu, etc and return to the cathedral you have to talk to chaos and law hero one more time before they turn on you. When they leave and you stand in the middle of where their argument was this dialog pops up. "You can't hear anything from the right side any more. You can't hear anything from the left side anymore. It's quiet." and it's followed by a mysterious voice that simply says "Keep moving forward". And of course you walk down the middle path to keep going further inside at that point. It's very cool. You have to walk this way to enter the cathedral anyway though so walking the middle path isn't as thematic anymore but it's still cool.

>>534747863
Some thoughts.
>Playing this game made me appreciate what SMT V was trying to do. I get now why SMT V vision was kinda weird since the new writing direction tried to replicate nocturne. Didn't really work so well.
>The game surprised me with the psychological insight, it's not really deep but you can infer a lot of text from the game from the minimal writing, haven't seen anything like much before.
>It does get funny when you beat a boss and suddenly there's suppose to be like a month time skip or something. Like Chiaki gets Gozu's power and now out of nowhere, angels are taking over the mantra HQ like ok.
>Why is Hijiri being Aleph such a hated theory?
>Demon Building and gameplay is generally okay. I haven't beat Lucifer but honestly on Hard, this game is....kinda easy? I was expecting much more trouble during the end game and I remember DDS being harder but a lot of people was saying Kagutsuchi was a bitch of a final boss but good lord I just unga bunga'd his ass till fried lunch. This game doesn't really punish you for having a shit ton of null elements.
>Why the fuck does people say Dante sucks? High crit rate, great toolkit, unga bunga. Yes you can min max probably better but then you're going in 99 - actually unga bunga territory.
>Wish the game had a bit more fluff. I still don't understand why your friends didn't stick together and how they even survived.

SJ is such peak gameplay.

>>534749118
>Playing this game made me appreciate what SMT V was trying to do. I get now why SMT V vision was kinda weird since the new writing direction tried to replicate nocturne. Didn't really work so well.
V was written by the same people who wrote maniax

>Why is Hijiri being Aleph such a hated theory?
Because it makes no sense. They were cursed for completely different reasons by two completely different entities. There is zero over lap.

>>534749346
SJ with press turn would be the perfect SMT game, that's why it will never happen

Is this Avery?

>>534749802
Whomst?

>>534747206
I know its small but I've been fusing demons a bit, what I have before meeting Gabriel.

>Passage of Ethics
Left all 3 times, I do have a thing about more in-depth reasons why if anyone wants that autism. Massive tl;dr is that going off of what the Gaeans give you for the situations, find the flexibility of Left outweighs the risk it could bring.
>Trivia: Smacktacular side quest
So some Ashura-Kai TV host knows about THE Expanse. Idk if it's commonly known in-universe but thought it noteworthy and funny.
>Tenkai
For anyone curious, still considered neutral here. As a fight I can't tell whether to be impressed or saddened, he resists all and spams almighty, so he's hard right? The drain skills are so fucking bad in this game. He wasn't even doing 50 damage pre-Debilitates and his Megido just couldn't break through the debuffs. Usually blind on voice acting unless exceedingly bad but Walter's apology at the end really sells his realization of how this will end.
>Rippongi
Just as fucked as I remember, actually worse in some ways. The "school" is just a veneer and no learning's being done with the new generation, I remember before thinking they lived a life down there and it wasn't just being trapped in a brainrot goon cave as Tayama's discord kittens. Can I see potential necessity considering Tokyo's currently the Shithole of all Shitholes? Sure. That make me hate it any less? Hell no, especially when its showing signs of unsustainability and Ring of Gaea proves some alternative exists.
>Sea of Chaos (and friends)
I just ask this: Why? These are rarer almighty skills on higher level demons just so that it's a more expensive Megidola AT BEST. Yeah, move power is 240 if it hits the alignment it hates, same as Megidola but it hits everyone.

Was Digital Devil Saga kino?

>>534750942
Yes.

>>534742295
May I please have your save file before the big final decision? If you have a save state or anything, I went full law but I would like to try the other routes after

I take my time with every game I play since I have my ocd way of going about things

To the guys who are doing the SMT 4 play, are you guys playing english or japanese dub?

I don't know how I've managed to remain neutral in the current SMT4 run, I've chosen only the chaos options. Is it because I'm doing all of the quests?

>>534752593
I'm playing English.

>>534753132
Side quests choices do influence your alignment. At Tenkai I was neutral as while I picked a bit of chaos options, I also did a couple law moments + spared in all my hunter fights (law points per hunter spared).

SMT x Pay Toilets

god i started off SMT 4 to sign in (have to beat SJ first but i don't know if I can reach the deadline) but LMAO jesus fuck that voice acting in the beginning.

having troubles launching smt 4 with the hd textures, always getting Now Loading -> Black Screen.

I remember I did something to fix this long ago but I can't even remember the fix.

>>534751797
Your save file, sir.
slot 1 is before visiting lucifer, Slot 2 is just after turning down what I assume is the Law lock-in option.
emulator is Mesen
https://files.catbox.moe/y5zrvj.srm

>>534757585
Through some god magic I got it to work. I don't know how to download DLC and updates though. I'll figure that out later.

SJ is such a fucking mood. No way this is an original idea though. What did Atlus rip off? I don't believe at all that this hasn't been done before.

>Ronaldo's Ending
this is stupid. joke ending. lame cringe
>SJR Neutral Ending
this is so based kino chad MC
Has there ever been a bigger double standard in the SMT community?

>>534760615
Tbh I'm not sure which path to take for this playthrough. I've spoiled myself on true neutral long ago and I already know about the default routes endings.
I want to try either new law or new chaos but chaos always seems too edgy to me and ew freaking not touching law after that stupid smt2 law ending.
So far my runs have been:
SMT 1: Neutral
SMT 2: Law
SMT IF: Reiko
SMT Nocturne: Freedom
I was thinking of doing SMT IV Law then Neutral (Already did Chaos when it first came out and I played it as a teen)

>>534760615
>No way this is an original idea though. What did Atlus rip off?
weird shit in the south pole is always reminiscent of The Thing

>>534760615
oh yeah, military vs scientists (not all of who have humanity's best interests in mind) is a big theme of Day of the Dead
btw do NOT watch the 2008 remake, it is SHIT

>>534761792
>>534762008
I like the whole world's going to shit too. That's pretty unique for the series where there's an actual look of "damn everything is about to collapse", it's a neat look in comparison to SMT 1 where SMT1 things are going to shit because demons, and politics are creating a mini civil war. SJ shit is just regular day things are going to shit with the rise of capitalism (and I'm assuming some negative energy or whatever that's causing the south pole hole to open up - haven't actually played SJ so I'm just assuming based on other SMT games). Shit's neato. Especially playing as an actual soldier guy.

I'm fond of the demon lore in desu, the factions feel a bit more established

>>534760615
SJ had the best intro of any video game but it drags on for a while. The amount of time it takes to explain them actually driving into the fucking Schwarzwelt could have been cut down a lot.

PM.....

>>534720675
>>534721480
>>534721857
well beldr just ripped me a new asshole, i think i'll fuse something with devil's speed tomorrow

>>534767998
What's going on here...
>>534772627
>i'll fuse something with devil's speed tomorrow
I always had a demon with that, no matter what

>>534749118
>Why the fuck does people say Dante sucks?
He doesn't have pierce in the original so he does very little against Lucifer.

Hee ho

I want to fill Yuzuru's holes

>>534626717
>Madam content

BLESSED THREAD

If I had a nickel for every series I like that had an entry on the 3DS with a story that was originally written as a massive novel length draft, of which only a portion was actually able to be featured in the final product due to general overambition leading to a middling disappointing story... I'd have two nickels...

>>534795364
novels for this feel?

>>534721480
Perfectly doable.

>>534757964
Thank you man

I fucked up my alignment points because I thought I could wing it instead of following a guide, and I was set to get chaos again (I've already done that ending). Was so annoyed I was feeling like dropping the playthrough event even this far in for a few minutes, but I found this livesaving tool and thankfully still had my save from right before kenji so I was able to course correct to neutral
https://tmoc1.github.io/SMT4-Alignment-Editor
Putting this tool out there in case anybody else is as stupid as me, trying to wing it in a game that notoriously has the worst alignment points system lmao. Odds are even if I didn't fuck myself into being TOO chaos I would have made myself TOO neutral and been unable to actually do neutral because of the epic forced +/- 10 choice at the end

>>534767998
yaoi hands....

New beta Nocturne screenshot just dropped

>>534803861
Enrich CHOC

>>534803861
I don't know enough about germs to understand this but it's kinda funny anyway. What disease is it, syphilis or something?

>>534804265
Just google it, it's a rare STD with rather painful symptoms.

How do I download DLC on Citra? Citra keeps saying my shit is unsigned or something lol.

Let's go, /smtg/
I'm counting on you...

>>534805779
add my name. :D

>>534803861
Wait, this was posted on reddit 55mins ago.

>>534806814
Head on back there.

>>534807419
b-but this came from reddit.

>>534808040
It was posted here first, retard.

>>534808492
The math not mathing.

>>534501529
These kinds of victories are always sick

>>534805853
are you? >>534458470
i was a bit confused about this since i didn't think that anon ever told me a name.
or " :D " is the name.

>>534416660
anyway, i wanted to bring attention to this:
today is the last day for signups. that close at 12 am est.
so anyone who wants to join but hasn't yet, please let me know

>>534811087
>>534759837
:D

>>534811308
alright, sorry about that. i added you. hope you're having fun!

What's the best way to do alignments?
>Buddy up with a friend and you do their ending?
>Questions and choices during a game?
I mean I think the biggest problem with questions and choices in all SMT games it's just "Are you a goodie two shoes or a nice person?" ETERNAL SLAVERY FOR YOU or "Are you an edgy bad boy?" WORLD OF STRENGTH AND CHAOS!
like god damn I get they can't make these scenarios more morally grey but bouncing between two extremes is stupid. Then you got neutral which is the ultimate fence shitter but you get the most rewarded and best ending for a literal "keep the status quo".

>>534811535
I'm playing SJ first. Do you know how to download dlc, updates and stuff on citra? keeps saying it's unsigned.

>>534416660
could you guys also make sure i didn't miss anyone else?
if you posted a name but don't see it here, please let me know and i'll add you.

>>534811609
sorry, i've never messed around with dlc on citra.

Dead series, dead general

>>534819560
HAHAHAHAHA
AND YOU DONT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND

>>534819857
STRANGE, YOU SEEMED AN HONEST MAN

Thinking about it, why hasn't there been an SMT indie game clone? An RPG that's based on anarchist and fascists both imploding on each other that causes the end of the world. Hell, I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been a calendar system clone that Persona has.

>>534504023
>Note to Lilimbro she knows the secret to the chastity belt and may use it to lovingly tease him.
Love being teased but this whole chastity belt/cage stuff scares me. It wouldn't hurt to try, I think, but Im really unsure about it...

>>534820061
Found these games and wondering if anyone has any thoughts on these:
Kowloon High-School Chronicles
Undernauts: Labyrinth of Yomi
Monark

I don't think any of these have the real feel of SMT 1 where both groups are at war against each other and it causes shit to go down.

>>534820506
I never experienced any Touhou media. Do I need to?

>>534820628
Unironically start with this page of the wiki and click links as needed. The main games don't explain too much of the story
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Gensokyo

which Sector of SJ has your favorite aesthetic? Honestly I think the WWII era part of Antila is underrated

But who is the young woman/old woman in Nocturne? Man it feels like a lot of stuff from this game was cut.

>>534821887
a story doesn't need to explain every single element within it. this is actually a problem with maniax.

Never played Raidou but is Raidou the Turn A of SMT games? Does anyone have the timeline chart?

>>534821887
Its literally just lucifer in human form as always, you can see them turn into lucifer in true demon ending specifically
The form of the woman is just to more easily manipulate you, thats why she echoes the words of your teacher to evoke what you were searching for

>>534822538
>a story doesn't need to explain every single element within it
V doesn't explain shit and sucks

>>534823417
I don't think the average smt fan even pays enough attention to the dialogue in these games to have realised she was echoing yukos lines.

>>534823417
>>534823657
sorryyyyy queens I only did freedom ending only.
freaking dweeb, won't be so tough when i catch you with my demons outside.

>>534820628
"Gensokyo" is the name of the secret land Touhou takes place in, there's a bunch of youkai there taking the form of cute girls.
In this game you're a weird psychic human from the outside world who goes into Gensokyo when she dreams, and stuff's happening.

Should be good enough.

Undertale is an SMT fangame, if you think about it

Pokemon is an SMT fangame, if you think about

>>534820061
I'm sure we all have ideas but actual programmers with interest are rare.

Also the calendar system is like the most controversial aspect of nusona, of course people aren't itch.ioing to replicated it.

SMT x Palworld

smt/mt is a digital devil saga fangame, if you think about it.

>>534820061
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2731030/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2652040/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2621030/
There was also a /v/fag who made a Digimon x SMT type game but I cannot find it in my bookmarks at the moment, it has a wacky ass name that makes it hard to find.

>>534828654
>post apocalyptic tokyo
>you raid buildings populated by demons to make it your base wiping them out and recruiting some in the process
>you use demons for harvesting materials, labor force and to kidnap or recruit other demons
>you can prostitute your demons
>you can send your demons on quests of their own for resources
>lots of social interactions with your own demons
>they'll interact with each other in many ways on your base
>lots of crpg elements

My dream game

>>534823417
Is Lucifer in SMT a hermaphrodite
or does he just take a female form sometimes?

>>534820479
Monark is new to me. Other two are decent but not very SMT-like. Undernauts is better than Kowloon but Kowloon is more unique (and is closer to Persona if that's what you're after. Undernauts is a DRPG with some modern amenities).

>>534829649
>>you can prostitute your demons
Tell me you're Lilimbro withou telling me you're lilimbro. Never change, bloke.
Those are some good ideas though, would love to see a weird game like that. Megaten needs some good old experimentation innit?

Batman could solo every SMT demon with enough prep time

>>534820061
I always thought this also. Especially when there are so many Pokemon and Fire emblem fangames. I would assume it's because SMT is niche and making demon designs that "look" smt seems like a hard task
>>534831658
Didn'e he lose to DC Barbatos?

>>534832562
It doesn't have to be demons. I'm just thinking more of the whole order vs chaos thing

>>534820628
ADiA can be enjoyed as a standalone and it made for something of a wild ride going in blind. Touhou wasn't what I expected as an outsider to the series at the time and I liked the game enough to get into Touhou proper. If you do ever get interested in the series, definitely check out 1 and 5 because they have the most SMT influence.

Funny thing about aida is that I thought it would be like smt 1 and thought the MC/Sumirenko had no skills so until the final boss I've been using the normal attack

I forgot how "fun" beelzebub was
Stupid bastards my last quest before the cum chalice is filled too

I'm starting to think the DS/3DS era was Atlus peak and not the PS2 era.

>>534703705
Remove the randomly picked human party members, or at least fix their AI

>>534836047
DS, maybe, but definitely not the 3DS.

>>534833420
Mass Effect is an SMT game.

>>534823587
V still would have sucked if explained shit too

>>534823587
>>534836949
>V's story is bad because uhhhhh
>uhhhhhh

>>534837215
>V's story is good because uhhhhh
>uhhhhhh

>V's story
its what now

>>534838271
>minimal without being barebones
>world building and lore is there if you go looking for it but not shoved in your face
>several good characters
>good use of themes, mythology, and metaphors around the concepts of law and chaos
>the relationship between the MC and Aogami is how ever hero and heroine duo should be like from now on, the bench was a great idea and I wish all the girls from the past got that

>>534832562
>SMT barbatos
Just a regular duke of hell, very fateful design too, kaneko basically saw it's original illustration and thought it's too perfect for any changes
>DC comics Barbatos
*inhales* Bat-God, The Bat, the Bat behind the Bat, the dragon, the true father of batman, the bat-thing, universe destroying monster created by the world forger for the purpose of devouring unstable universes so they can return to be recreated by the world forger, it's home is the sea of possibilities also dubbed the dark multiverse

I'll give DC points for making thier Barbatos and omega Chaosfag.

>>534821627
I really liked the gilded server center look of Fornax and how the previous bosses would crash their way in.
Horologium felt just right for the final showdown as well, and the erupting pillars as you head toward the boss room really stuck out to me.

>>534836047
It's a tie between PS2 and DS for sure. DS had some really experimental games that took the original formula and turned it on its head in a good way while the PS2 games kept iterating on similar mechanics until they reached a satisfying balance, Raidou aside since those two games are a totally different beast.

I honest to god forgot just how fucking abysmally bad the writing drops off a cliff after you hit the neutral alignment lock
Like the goddess of tokyo plotpoint and masakado being a god of ultimate power who is emphasised as the ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING are self explanatorily bad plot beats but its not even just the beats just being bad, the actual quality of the writing itself feels like it nosedives too.
>how do we show the player that flynn is inspiring tokyo?
>uhhhh force them to run around and watch four identical scenes in every major city where a bunch of npcs crowd around you and unnaturally force the word hope into a sentence so isabeau can wink at the screen and the chalice can fill
Feels like writing for actual infants, hilarious this is in the same game as the reverse hills content

>>534843220
It basically turns into danganronpa with how ridiculous the usage of hope as a buzzword becomes in the endgame.

>>534843220
Just drop the game at the alignment lock and pick up SMT 4A that has its own set of problems...

>>534844784
Yeah doesn't lucifuge go on a hillariously over the top speech about hope is le evil in neutral? I know most SMT games have a neutrality bias but 4's ending for law and chaos aren't that bad

Shall I give you dis pear?

>Pick Musubi
>make my own matrix pocket little universe where my little mud puppets are all happy.
>insert myself in the world
>erase mine and their memories of me being god.
what's the con here again? hurrdurr you don't understand musubi is suppose to be individualism. yeah and what if I want my brain to play with dolls then??

>>534846526
It's escapism, I'm taking you back to the real world where all the mud men are dead.

You know we need more body horror in SMT. We got the red hills incident, chiaki and isamu’s body morph, the deminandis, and even human/demon fusion, etc. Definitely should do more for future games

>>534848670
giten

Ah, my wife has arrived.

>>534854739
why aren't you using the hd mod

>>534857706
kek

>After you beat lucifer on neutral instead of going straight to the ending you have to manually leave the camp ichygaya """"dungeon""""" with the encounters still on
Its impressive just how little of the end of this game they got right, its almost an artform
I can't think of anything more anticlimactic than beating the final boss... and then fighting some more random encounters as you have to manually leave the area to get to the actual ending
I don't think a single other megaten does this (The endings where you get to talk to a few npcs before you end like megaten 2 and the nusona games don't have generic encounters in those periods to kill the mood)

>>534836047
there's no more eras of atlus after 3ds, is the sad realization for me

>>534858247
To be fair didn't they make the game not end there just so you could clear some missions in blasted and infernal?

>>534416660
Finished. IV sure is a videogame. Back in my playthrough in like 2017 I landed on chaos, this time I did neutral. I don't think either ending is particularly compelling.
I feel like you can break the game down into three distinct sections.
The first 75% of the game is almost entirely SMT1/2 rehashes played relatively straight with few shakeups. Due to rehashing stuff that itself was quite good, this part ends up being quite compelling even if its mostly derivate. Its not winning any originality awards but I don't blame someone whos first megaten is IV if they think the game is awesome because of the first 3/4ths.
Then the next like, 15% consists of the alternate timeline plotlines and everything surrounding the previous generation of flynn, kiyoharu, kenji and akira. This is probably IV's most unique and interesting set of ideas, and frustratingly its rushed past and not fleshed out in the slightest. If the game was laser focused on this aspect, I think I'd love it and feel the game has more of its own identity.
Then the last 10% is actual rancid garbage, some of the worst shit they've blasted out their ass into a megaten game. Honestly retroactively makes me think apocalypse wasn't so unexpected, it does branch directly from this point of the game after all.

>>534829649
An SMT CRPG sounds really funeral, actually. Early SMT had some positioning but it didn't matter because there was no range or aoe to moves. I'm not even sure It's true that enemies in the back get attacked less, it sure didn't seem like it.

>>534863223
>>534416660
In terms of gameplay, press turn is easily my favourite JRPG battle system and I don't think a single game with it in had bad gameplay, but I definitely think this game has the least good iteration of it.
Don't like the lack of a vit stat leading to everything being a glass canon, the rng partners that love to give bosses free smirks are genuinely one of the most retarded mechanics I've seen in a videogame, smirk is hilariously overtuned and doesn't become a respectable mechanic until apocalypse
However I love the boss fight negotiations and horde encounters, I wish those stayed as staple mechanics.
I don't know what snapped in atlus post strange journey that made them decide to hate dungeons, but this game was the start of the decline. If you can even call half the areas in the games dungeons, they're mechanically terrible. I at least think most of the areas are cool aesthetically and are mostly what I want from megaten, something about midtown in particular really hit me in the right spot. (I love the karma tower in DDS2 as well, I think almost pathetically mundane office skyscraper might be one of my personal favourite aesthetics for a dungeon)
The soundtrack is... probably the best in the series. Its impeccable. I don't think theres a bad track in the lot. The tokyo theme is one of the most immersive tracks in a videogame.

Some rambling thoughts that don't neatly fit elsewhere
I wonder if the reason they had the shitty rng partner mechanic is because the bottom 3DS screen didn't have enough space for a true 5th party member slot, so they felt the need to give the guests an appropriately reduced mechanical role to suit the minimal placement in the UI they were forced to take?
I can't help but wonder about the timeline where instead of getting apocalypse, SMTIV got a more standard rerelease with additional content. The fact I'm WANTING a standard rerelease is probably a bad thing, the corporation has compromised my mind and integrity. But maybe we'd have gotten FF8 laguna style playable sections with the previous incarnation of flynn and his buddies.
The artstyle consistency is at its absolute most chaotic in this game, with all eras of kaneko art, doi character art, and like 5 different guest artist artstyles all crammed in. Most of said guest designs are comically out of place and bad. Minotaur is cool, and I have a soft spot for kuebiko and asmodeus. Merkabah also kinda actually pulls off the chaotic keita amemiya flesh chimeric monstrosity look unlike the dogshit arcangels and lilith. Probably helped that merkabah wasn't replacing an existing superior design like the others, and also that as an abstract entity like a chariot of god an abstract design isn't as out of place as it is with the others (Everytime I hear a mouth breather justify the archangels looking like that with the "biblically accurate angels" meme I get the urge to run into traffic)
Most of the rest are pretty terrible, dullahan and sanat in particular I think stand out as the most worthy of being called the worst designs in the game.
Lastly, estoma is fucking terrible in IV. Not only does it run out pathetically fast because its on some step count timer due to total lack of moon phases in the game, but for it then to not be automatic and actually require you attack the demons? Just terrible

WHY IS CHRIS THE CAR SCARIER THAN BEETLEJUICE

WHY IS THE M16 SO CRACKED

I THOUGHT THE DARK ROOM WAS MY EMULATOR GLITCHING LMAO

Fire Kozuka so the SMT series can finally have house music again.
https://youtu.be/N-LwRuLT6_M?si=sKRr_riVkxsCBsNl

>>534872018
Crazy idea, but you could have Kozuka make house tracks and not fire the only good creative at Atlus.

>>534791142
PM Koshimizu...

>>534872964
Why is Koshimizu's relationship with Yuzuru so scandalous but Aogami and Vkun are so pure?

>>534854739
This is why Yakumo should have been the protag.

>>534873323
moon's secretive and scandalous....

>>534838710
To give the Anon some credit, he might've been referencing CoC whereas you look at CoV.

>>534858247
So you're not wrong but iirc you can choose which alignment to beat up first (Merkabah or Lucifer), and what you're supposed to do is tackle Lucifer first so that you have access to the Perpetual Yamato Reactor (and thusly have access to Blasted/Infernal Tokyo before heading off to DLC land or something). Currently at Camp Ichigaya (pre forest, just dealt with Yaso Magatsuhi in Reverse Hills) and I do wish to kill myself merely a lot because hallways are great.

>>534864421
>Vit being the problem
In my playthrough I'm finding everything being made out of paper being much worse because player demon quality can get fucking insane. Vit itself isn't THE solution but is one that could allow demons, ally and foe, to have more functional HP than they do now without resorting to resist everything like Tenkai (who still probably wanted 2k extra HP or something). Another option is not let the player fucking sneeze into NDRs/Pleromas so easily, might make bosses last a bit more + not need almighty so much (yes the -karns are there and can be gotten early but also prohibitively expensive by the time you get them, I have High Elec Pleroma Concentrated Ziodynes at level 43 that are much more spammable).

>>534874507
You can't chose who to do first. You're forced to do merkabah first so you can leave isabeau behind to evacuate everyone from Mikado while you're doing Lucifer

>>534867452
For a 3ds release that was after strange journey, IV is strangely clunky in its mechanics and that ending part where it feels anticlimactic as hell. 4A was better in the qol stuff but it’s really weird how many missteps there are for a series that’s been doing the similar formula for a few years at that point. Possibly from the 3ds dual screen? But then previous games did it super well. I dunno, just really weird how clunky the game feels for how modern it is.
Also sex with Asahi

WAR BROKE OUT IN HEAVEN

>>534431481
IN WWD WE HAVE TRINITY PRESS TURN. ONE ACTION CAN BE PRESSED TWICE INSTEAD OF ONCE. THIS IS A SKIRMISH WARGAME LIKE MORDHEIM. SPEED ONLY MATTERS FOR THE DEMONS THAT CONTACT EACH OTHER. THERE ARE FOUR COMBAT PHASES. FIRST LEADERS ACTIVATE ( this represents demifiend having 2 actions, and is how things work in frostgrave) SO YOU CAN GET A CHEEKY SUMMON OUT BEFORE THE CORE COMBAT PHASE. IN THE CORE COMBAT PHASE EACH PLAYER ACTIVATES ONE UNIT AT A TIME. THIS IS WHEN NORMAL MOVE ACTIONS TAKE PLACE AS WELL. AFTER THE CORE COMBAT PHASE THE PLAYER WITH THE MOST AP ACTIVATES HIS ENTIRE ARMY. THIS IS TRUE FOR THE THIRD PHASE AS WELL. CHARACTER > CHESS > CARNAGE > CLIMAX

>>534876118
Who asked?

>>534473047
I put Majin Tensei 2 Spiral Nemisis down

>>534506561
I CHOSE ODIN

>>534513890
SMT5 was a pile of assets they had to staple together into a game

>>534574541
I prefer IV's ability to summon and lose your entire stock to a boss as opposed to 6 units. the 6 unit games tend to one shot your squishiest backrow demons and it takes forever to summon a whole squad. 6 units with press turn would be cute

>>534611627
the feds post in every thread to demoralize everyone fr fr

I think nozuchi is going to win at mahjong

My Flynn is very strong, honesly haven't had much of a problem for a while due to how strong Baldur/Thoth is for anything even side quests. I decided to try out the Sword of Hope since it's much more guaranteed to do at least 250 damage with countering.

>>534877086
Why would feds demoralize a thread of 10-20 posters?

>>534875285
Damn, I remembered Neutral not being that bad (though the fact I can't remember any scenes post Monochrome for Neutral in any detail might speak volumes).

>>534875864
>strangely clunky
From what I heard lurking before its that IV (and IVA to a degree) have scuffed as hell development (mostly heard about the writing side where Kaneko wrote out a lot but the team only incorporated a small portion of it) and I think the litany of demon oddities for IV is a good testament before pulling out dev interviews.
>Isis is elec null demon indicating lightning focus but gets Mazanma as level up
>Huoniao gets Drain Fire despite starting out with Repel Fire (not even an upgrade for this demon)
>All the demons without weaknesses
For this one I really want to put VV on perspective as it has 5 total demons that have no elemental weaknesses: Demi-Fiend, Satan, Masakado, Alilat, and Metatron. 3 of those are NG+ super-bosses, Alilat doesn't null an element (only resists light/dark), and Metatron is the highest level non-special fusion in the game at level 95 (well above base game if not doing super bosses, I recall the Michael/Beliel side quests being lower leveled). Meanwhile I'm tripping to demons like Isis, Loki, Zhu Yin, Jarilo, Anubis, Kurama Tengu, Koumokuten, Balor, etc. that have NDRs without a weakness to worry about.

>>534876651
That meme stopped being funny 3 years ago. Get new material.

Do the Fiends in Strange Journey only start spawning after you reach their level or something? I've hounded all of Sector C looking for Matador but he won't show up.

>>534878080
Just raw rng via enemy search. Good luck he's in Sector C if barking up the wrong tree.

>>534692996
smt4>smt5>smt3

p5r>p3r>p4g

persona 5's gameplay has the most potential to improve too. I hope when we get the new version they give is a real hard mode, where the mini bosses matter at least as much as they do in IV , and technical crits are strong but not absurd.

I really want technical crits in a press turn game

>>534703705
save anywhere + high RNG( smurk) mixes pretty well. SMT4 has hyper fusion so it is a good game. Skill affinities are fine I guess. The best systems tell you what a demon is good at, not what a demon is bad at. Skill affinities are very ' i cannot.'

>>534747863
play on 3ds

>>534755936
they're quoting the book of daniel. That goofy voice is how you know you're in for kino

>>534828121
>>534827817
>>534836047
literally true

>>534864421
roaming and crawling through tokyo with ladders and shit was kino as fuck, especially with hordes and random shit like your demon leaving your party due to gale. 4 has the strongest core gameplay loop even if you can nitpick the combat. Domain dungeons are better than nothing and the mini bosses are solid for the amount of them in the game. They are better than p5r minibosses

if you like generic office buildings try city of heroes

>>534867452
picking your partner and spending meter on them is broken in 4a. RNG is not a bad thing, it leads to emergent gameplay, even if it emerges that you lose. I hope we get a full FF8 remake trilogy like the game was originally designed, where we get a whole game about laguna and a whole game about seifer

this design is awesome

>>534874507
CoC and CoV compliment each other. But I will also say the original story was never that bad. If you look at it from the perspective of the MC and Aogami, you can see how their dynamic is the core of the story. And CoV did the exact same thing, just instead of it ending in tragedy with true neutral, it becomes a revenge story.

>>534879338
I like the sentai villian style designs in smt4 a great deal

>>534879338
>take the woman as a bride
Keep your paws off my monkey!

>>534878268
This is fucking stupid, I'm tired of fighting Tam Lim and the feet guy.

>>534772627
>>534773387
well i didn't need to fuse anything after all, when you know the second phase is coming everything is more much manageable

>>534742295
>Tell both sides "That doesn't work for me, brother." and go Neutral
>Be so powerful that I have squash matches against everything on auto unless it has anti-phys gimmicks or spams mass charm like a pussy(fuck you Lucifer). Each victory makes me even stronger.
>Lucifer gets fucking deleted by one of my stablemates Dominion using his Divine Retribution finisher and pinning him for the three count
>Jake the World Snake gets bagged
>Macho Man fuses with Set Rolins to become Satan just to job like the rest
>And finally YHVince eats a stunner to end it for the universal championship belt, and the right for humanity to enjoy whatever kind of wrestling they want.
SMT2 COMPLETE
Actual kino. If they had translated it back then and somehow managed to get it past the pearl clutching NoA censors of the time without it being butchered completely this would probably have been remembered as fondly as other greats like FF2(4) and 3(6)
Maps are very tight, not overly huge but not without challenge either. Quests reward you for exploring beforehand. Story and factions are top tier even if the abyss filler is a bit weaker and the neutral ending is tepid. My only gripe is that I didn't get to say goodbye to my indie manager from the beginning. I fully expected him to die after Valhalla got swallowed up but to just be gone with not even a sendoff when even Madam got a moment is depressing.
SMT IF next.

Strange Journey feels weird after Nocturne. Going back to the SMT 1/2 formula where demons outlive their usefullness pretty fucking fast is such a weird feeling considering you can keep Nocturne demons for a long ass time if they're built well.

>>534884261
People abused the password system for a reason.
No matter what some may say, most people want to be able to keep their favorite.

>>534884676
>was able to keep Frost Ace past Ourourbus
Fight on with your favorites

Kaga x Xi Wangmu

This is ridiculous, I spent two hours fishing for Matador at Sector C and nothing. I barely arrived at delphinus and guess who shows up. He killed by the way, so I didn't even unlock him for fusion.

>>534885202
this, I kept Frost Ace pretty well past that point

>>534854739
>wife
anon...

>>534886685
What lunatic at Atlus thought it would be a cool idea to make the fiends encounter rate nearly equal to that of a shiny pokemon?

>>534884261
that's how it should be desu, Nocturne felt like it was trying to be pokemon or something

>>534872323
I don't trust Kozuka to make good house music. Nearly all of his works sounds too same-ish, which bothers me. There's no reason why V soundtrack sounds like it's just scrapped music tracks from IV.

>>534884101
hh

god dammit I knew we had a SMT t-type

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRIhEs5arj8

SMT2 Limitless - lets you fuse demons 10 levels higher than you, demons can level up, bosses are harder.

Fuck Fiends.

>>534901108
Your mom is a fuck fiend.

Playthrough update before I sleep
>Hunter Man in Ueno
Notable that he mentions Yuriko prophesied a "Child of Carnage", furthermore a few people do mention the more callous angle of the Gaeans but not Lilith leaned on (after all, we strong decide how the new world shall be, it's not predetermined). Was a pleasant surprise Tokyo people have different dialogue as you progress. Knew it happened in Mikado but never convenient to check in Tokyo whilst ping-ponging for quests/demons.
>Alignment Split
First, credit for Law looking good for once as the archangels aim to excise pride and is Walter's one slip (while Tayama has enough dirt to be buried alive, we just met the archangels and don't know how Ahuzaya was really handled), that said he could've mentioned the idea of Mikado being an "equality of outcome" type thing where life could have quotes around it but hey, Walter's only human and had to stop rolling nat 20s for once.
>Magatsuhi
Surprisingly wasn't that bad of a fight despite not having Salvation to block Ancient Curse, probably helped that half my stock, MC included now, Null Phys.
>Koga Rematch
Merciful bullying and also put into perspective how over-leveled I am, I'm throwing out Luster Candy and Debilitates at level 64 against a 47 demon and there's a solid chance it's only widened.
>Okoikane
He was a soggy noodle thanks to Tetraja but didn't immediately explode in 3 rounds. Wish the mini-boss meant anything though.
>Michizane
His intro dialogue was cool but I am partially confused as to who he's referencing. Probably you/Yuriko as the "ancient power bent for desire" considering Lilith's old (no offense chaos mommy) but the framing for Chaos is to change the world for the better, ambition's not just a Tayama thing here. Another boss was hit with an ailment though, my stun needles stunned him. Walter's dialogue at the end feels like something more fitting for Omoikane's fight with what his dialogue leaned towards while this was just Koga 2.5.
(1/2)

>>534904775
>Yamato Takeru
I might've pulled out the Charge Myriad Arrows user just to see damage (4 hits broke the 2k barrier) and rip boss mechanics. His kept changing dresses and it didn't mean a thing as I kept blasting him with strong neutral hits, didn't even hit a NDR along the way between Ice/Gun/Wind as his almighty hits mostly just tickled my team.
>Walter
One thing I really like is the mercy he has, he lets the thugs and even Tayama play nice/run. While some NPCs lean towards the primal view of survival, you and Walter have higher goals for the new world.
(2/2)

>>534887406
nah it was really bad by debisama/soul hackers where having demons out was just actively detrimental and the game can easily be beaten by just you, the heroine and sneed.

also nocturne had way less demons than the snes games so they had to stick around longer.

>>534879338
It's so annoying that they never added more of IV's exclusive designs to Dx2, the only reason I'd want a full-on remake for those games is so I could see them in full 3D glory.

>>534921132
there must be some weird legal issues going on with those designs.

Finally into new territory and not the part I've replayed half a dozen times. Bridge Kelpies are based as always.

>>534921132
They added the only one who was somewhat popular (koga saburo).
The others were pretty much hated in Japan.

>>534922146
Odin is pretty popular

>>534925045
Hes from apocalypse, not iv

>>534925045
>>534925389
He's also not from a guest artist.

New Raidou merch:
https://x.com/ebten/status/1955096661942063608

>>534886947
reminds me of that time I played EraMegaTen and thought I was going to have sex with an Angel and she ended up fucking me in the ass

>>534930427
Low effort

>>534878842
SMT5>3>4
P3>5>4

>>534930437
Wtf I wanna play EraMegaTen now

>>534931937
>p3

>>534930427
>Raiho is literally the only demon who got merch
Grim.

Post your penis length and whether you're Law, Neutral or Chaos

>>534934225
This post glows

>>534930427
It really bombed that hard, huh?

>>534934623
>>534934734
Sorry Law bros, you don't have to respond if it's THAT small

>>534878842
>>534931937
man you missed the point of my question that's impressive.

Le flop meme

>>534942220
memes are real life

i wish there was a way in VV to make buffs work like in SMT4 and to chance the MP costs to be less damaging.

>>534945592
>buffs work in SMT4
What part of the game are you in? EX Boon Boost is pretty good and I find that most of the hard bosses have buff/debuff management that make the 3-5 round limit not matter.
>MP Costs
Sutras/Affinities help a lot with buff costs. For Support its up to 40% cost reduction at +5 (max), main issue is farming them can be a pain when not in Godborn/NG+ (and that's mostly by replacing a late-game bridge farm with a macca farm but its also its own can of worms). If the issue is longevity, don't be afraid of Energy Drain, it does wonders for a late game mage if you're expecting the long-haul.

Just finished Strange Journey a few days ago and am trying to decide what to play next. I'm currently kicking around either playing Devil Survivor or trying to emulate one of the SNES or PSX games.
Any thoughts as to what might be the better followup?

>>534947528
SJ is more in line with classic SMT.
DeSu1 and DeSu2 are both the best games Atlus has ever made. So it really depends.
go read the megami tensei books instead you fucking dweeb. read a book

Flopdou The Soulless Demaster

Succesdou The Soulful Master

>>534947528
>>534947830
>SJ is more in line with classic SMT
Weirdly enough, I find Soul Hackers 3DS to be a nice companion game with SJ since both games encourage you to use demons in your alignment.

>>534843220
I was flabbergasted on my first playthrough. People have been glazing IV to death and I at least expected a good plot, and my face at the end credits was one of disappointment. Especially since I played SJ right before

I really need to get my hands on a 3DS

I do like how DeSu recontextualize a lot of the alignments because thinking about it. Isn't Law and Chaos the exact same shit? Either way someone has all the power and you don't. One grants you the "freedom" (lol) sorta to change it. The other grants you peace and stability but in general the average dude is going to be stuck.

>>534958021
Enjoy paying out the ass for used systems, you might as well emulate at this point

>>534954627
You know, Soul Hackers has been on my backlog for a hot minute. I think I'll go with it next.

>>534947830
>read
Consider them picked up.

>>534922146
I thought fionn was cool...

>>534922146
>>534960291
oh never mind for some reason I read that as Konohana Sakuya and thought thid post was about the new Smt 5 demons

is this truly the top 5 SMT games?
1. Strange Journey (DS)
2.III: Noctrune
3.IV
4.Devil Summoner Raidou
5. Devil Survivor Overclocked

for me the hardest parts of nocturne were noah's boss fight and the kalpa dungeons to get the true ending.
apart from that i beat the game pretty easily despite being a normie gamer, i simply had a solid team (buff/debuffer, physical attacker, healer, magic user).
beat lucifer on my first try, might post my team if people are interested and want to draw inspiration.
on my new game + i'll probably take the isamu route simply because i like his world view and also to spare myself the kalpa dungeons

it's been less than a year since i completed nocturne and i already miss it.
sliding towards ennemies and hearing their death screams was so cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiHmQcHa84

i'm going through vv right now and i appreciate that it's a direct hommage to nocturne while still being it's own thing

>>534960546
>Raidou in the top 5
No.

>elementalfag is avery
what a twist

>>534961590
what about thr rest of the list?