Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
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==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Jet Stream | Amy, Cream, & Big the Cathttps://youtu.be/qYMbDyCMHtU
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hackshttps://youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaserhttps://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k
>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Bustedhttps://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70
>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk
>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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>>534446473 (OP)that cat is naked
/Sthg/ is cordially invited to... the mansion: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/sthgmansion
Thirs- I mean, FIRST for Blaze
>>534446473 (OP)Why the fuck did that anon had to remind you?
Have a good friday morning, /sthg/
>>534446692No one actually gives a shit about Blaze unless its out of spite for silverfags or amyfags
>>534446857I wish Tangle gets an alt costume like Lucky Whisper
>>534446857I wish you and your dumb wolf girlfriend to be gone from this series
>>534446692Because I love cats.
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With how badly Nintendo fucked up with Mario Kart World, Crossworlds might have a very bright and long future if SEGA do at least a half decent job and don't do stupid shit like whatever the intermission tracks are called.
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Sonic should go Super, and then Hyper, and then go beyond even Hyper to achieve true actual ABSOLUTE GOD mode... and then fight Base form Knuckles.
And lose. Get knocked out. Defeated. Borderline killed. No rematch win either, just a true absolute loss.
And then this "loss" should be reframed as a "win" for Sonic somehow, like he wanted Knuckles to beat him up like this. Like this is all for Knuckles' character development and stuff.
>>534448502Give it up bro. Hyper Sonic was vaulted and is never coming back
>>534448502HOLY W*NDFAG!
YOU'RE TOO DANGEROUS TO BE ALLOWED TO LIVE!
What if Knuckles tried to uppercut Hyper Sonic back in the Sonic 3 intro?
>>534448626Wind stuff aside, I just like the mental image of Sonic basically being like Goku and Knuckles is like Superman, and Sonic is going Super Sonic on top of Super Sonic on top of Super Sonic...and then Knuckles OHKO's him because Knuckles is just that strong and doesn't even need to go super to surpass Super Sonic.
Of course, I do like and want Super Knuckles in some way otherwise, but that's beside the point.
If Knuckles is as strong as Sonic is fast, Knuckles absolutely should be Superman level. Saitama level. Popeye level. And so this hypothetical scenario is Sonic getting Knuckles to bring out that true level of power he has.
>>534448367If they are different artists then I don't see the issue here. If they are the same person, then that's a very strange transition in their art
>>534448820Sonic wouldn't have felt a thing and we'd have Sonic 3 Minus Knuckles.
Windhaters critiquing and hating on Windnic but it's Eggman and Knuckles saying these things to Sonic himself, and Tails & Amy are the ones defending and supporting Sonic.
Cuckoldry is a jap fetish created out of the anxiety over their abysmal birthrates and it infected the western world over the internet
Air is the Element of Freedom
Water is the Element of Change
Earth is the Element of Substance
Fire is the Element of Power
Knuckles is a Power-type, and thus, has Fire. But, if Sonic is the wind, then Knuckles is the Mountain. Sonic is as free as the wind, so what is Knuckles' "substance"? What does the Earth's "substance" mean for Knuckles?
Why did Eggman say that he can carpet bomb Sonic any minute?
Carpet bomb Sonic who doesnt even have a home and doesnt stay in place for too long
How would even look like
>>534448367These are both ABT right?
>>534449865A volcano is a type of mountain
>>534449223>>534449979They're both ABT, yes. He has fallen.
>>534450006Yes, but Lava is still EARTH. Lava is molten rock, it is inherently made of "earth", just add fire. A volcano itself is the mountain, the earth, containing all that heat. So, Knuckles is both "Power" and "Substance". The Power is obvious, so what is Knuckles' "substance"?
>>534449626>oh no the birthrates are down >should we make our living conditions better and fix the relationships between the sexes? >Nah, let's make porn based on cheating and defilement of the woman and replace the natives with foreigners Japan deserves its death
>>534447885Most people will just play MK8 Deluxe instead, not play Steve and SpongeBob's Crossworlds
>>534446473 (OP)also Intenational Vore Day
>>534450136Damn. Like while the new stuff isnt THAT bad, compared to his previous sonic stuff, the old artstyle is clearly superior, at least for sonic. The new stuff gives me this weird bubbly steven universe vibe if that makes sense
>>534450240Living conditions have nothing to do with birthrates. It's dispartity between education ("good man crisis"), urbanization, and birth control.
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>>534450426and it's canon to Sonic.
>>534449865The "substance" is the dream, the goal, the set path. No matter how many obstacles the path has, Knuckles will stay on it no matter what.
Sonic doesn't have a dream. He runs towards nothing in particular. He zig-zags around the field and jumps from one path to another with no goal in mind.
>>534450136I do not like bottom left
>>534450136This is what happens when a porn artist regress, it starts to spill over and deteriorates the art style.
>>534449967It would look like the ending to Angel Island Zone act 2
Flynn doesn't play the games
>>534450136Every time this is posted, my soul hurts because the last panel was supposed to be centered on Sonic,not Amy
>>534449626Wow what the fuck bro leave my Japaneses out of this and let's talk about Sonic
>>534450834>The "substance" is the dream, the goal, the set pathI don't think that's the right phrasing.
Looking into it a bit further, "substance" refers to the solid structure of the physical world. That immovability, the persistence, against anything against him. But a "Dream"... is not physical. It is not "real". A dream is a metaphysical concept, it's something you aspire to, something you imagine. It doesn't "exist", until you make it so. That isn't "Earth", exactly. Because to be rooted in the ground is to be rooted in reality. The physical material world, solid ground that you can touch and feel with your five senses.
Something like a "dream" is as elusive as the air itself. But, not quite the same as the wind, though. To be one with the wind is to be detached from all earthly tethers, as well as the internal ones. Unburdened by past or future. So, I think a "Dream" is something much that you'd only see when your head is truly in the clouds. So high up in the sky that you nearly pierce the heavens...
>>534450695GBAnic? The strongest variant(s) of Sonic
>>534451728I mean, you didn't point out anything wrong with my interpretation. You just chose another one. I think there is substance in having a purpose and freedom in being purposeless.
>>534446473 (OP)Shiruba san garfrendo
>>534451996Sheesh
How's Goku gonna beat this madhog?
>>534452491with more fanfiction of course!
>>534451996GBA sprites were like 3D Models to fan animators back then. Once you ripped them from the game and opened them in your Adobe studio, you had the potential to make new grounds gold
SAMMYCLASSICSONICFAN IS A FATHER NOW?!
>>534451996Where the hell's my goat?
>>534446473 (OP)>based kid was attacked by coyote while playing little league baseball >needed over 20 stitches and rabies shotsAnyone with a coyote oc needs to apologize right now.
>>534453391What the fuck is that's looks like someone's crude drawing of Deviantarts Sonic gay porn
>>534453234That's my man.
>>534453556>STK TrioPOOPDOW SHITVER KEKMY FAG BTFO
>>534453556Yeah FUCK Antoine
>>534453391Doma Sonic is Classic Sonic-exclusive
>>534453615It's 2005 fanart, which was when people were posting recolored Dragon Ball Budokai renders on DA at the time. Can't really blame.
>>534453937>Muttski's getting in over Antoine, Chuck or Nicole.
>>534453556Are we this depraved of content that this is what we are talking about? A kid that got seriously attacked and happens to have sonic plushies?
>>534453367Imagine the smell
Remember InSonicnia? Chaos Diamonds? Exterminatus Now? Pepperidge Farm remembers
Sonic Racing Crossworlds character select.
>>534446606Hopefully it doesn't smell bad like the Smash Mansion
>>534446692If Rouge ever had her own game, she would use guns. She avoids using firearms around the others because they're all pussies who whine about it. Omega is the only person she knows who understands pragmatism.
But that's Vanilla not Whisper
>>534453556>>534453937>Zat little shit insulted both my cooking and my wife! Ze brat got he deserved. Hon hon hon!
BREAKING: SEGA's Q1 FY 2026 financial report is out!
The Sonic series sold a total of 770k copies in April-June of this year, up from 670k copies the year prior. #SonicNews
Sonic Rumble was also confirmed to for a 2025 release, specifically Q3 (October-December).
>>534455485nobody cares about gay ocs except gays
>>534455575>posting fucking financial reports/sthg/ really is infested with corporate drones.
>>534454592Remember this?
Nobody does because literal EPI'd zoomers watched mashed garbage instead
>>534455875Uh sweetie, that's discriminating behavior at display here.
You're gonna have to show some verification if you're going to keep on posting.
>>534456078How about you verify the saltiness of my balls by throating them.
>>534455268I miss you Duofag, when are you posting more Shadallies?
Hedgehog stonks are waaaaay up.
https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1953654767110029584#m
I'm glad that the Windfags have outright admitted to being actual shills.
>>534456692FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
THE STRONGEST SCRIMBLO GAME IP
>>534457229jorkin' to this rn
>>534457298>im>fucking>plyingSit your ass down, shill.
How to tell it's more style over substance fanslop again:
hoodweebs like Loki FES made a video about it
>>534457631>Shitshine image You sit down.
I fucking hate Infinite with every fiber of my being, I hope he never returns and, if he returns, ends up in a fate worse than hell for all of eternity. God how I hate him.
>>534457976Is he in Crossworlds? I'd like my boy Mephiles to show up.
Fuck this faggot fox. I hate him. I hate him. I fucking HATE him.
>>534455268I miss you Duofag, when are you posting more Silvouge?
>>534458409https://files.catbox.moe/lx0ogj.png
>>534458376Not that I know of. If he appears, he possibly won't have rival interactions like the Werehog, and will just be DLC.
>>534455573Has the kid insulted his hair he wouldn't survived.
>>534454164He is a good boy.
>>534458756>Fetish bullshit.Even ignoring that, there is no pain involved. I don't want fetish smut. I want pain and torment. I want pictures of people and characters beating the shit out of that stupid faggot.
>>534455268I wish bonsire would stop obsessing with OCs and perty drama bullshit.
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I'm so glad sonic keeps outselling yakuza no matter how much the suits at SEGA seethe
>>534449967He was being rethorical, anon. Eggman says he could kill Sonic any time he wants, and he possibly could in some scenarios, but ultimately in the scene you are quoting, Eggman was just angry than a newbie/upstart was taking "his kill".
>>534459183ok
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>>534446473 (OP)If Blaze were to rip a fat one would Silver smell it?
I want to have kids with kit, he would be a good father i think
>>534459815He is a minor, he hasn't even hit puberty yet.
>>534459709>Fetish bullshitAt least he's in pain.
>>534458756Fuuuuuuck, Eggman got good taste.
>>534459939got it boss
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>>534459903He's an nigh-immortal cyborg.
>>534460148This is just gross.
>>534460267isn't this what you wanted, anon? I'm only doing this to please you.
One more image of Tails and I'm releasing the Raccoon
>>534460462I want blood, gore and screaming. Not whatever bullshit you find on E621 with the Miles_Prower+Torture tags. I already tried that.
>>534457880This'll be MovieAmy.
>pathetic falseflagging just for an excuse to get off on torture porn
Why are there so many frothing raging autists here?
>>534460830I'm not falseflagging.
I legitimately hate this faggot fox. I hope he gets beaten and bullied more. He deserves it for being such a shitty character.
>>534461029And you deserve to be shot
>>534461080Is that a threat or an invitation, you retarded Tailsfag nigger? Either way, this faggot fox deserves the shit he gets. I hope next game they belittle him more and he has a mental breakdown again so I can watch him cry like the bitch he is.
>>534461029>he says while posting cute art of himQuit lying faggot and just admit that torture porn gets your tiny cock hard, or that you just have cuteness aggression
>>534457296https://files.catbox.moe/ap7aiy.jpg
>>534461447You weren't here yesterday apparently so let me explain it for you.
I spent over 20 years of my life shilling and trying to get people to like this piss-stained faggot only to be mocked, ridiculed and insulted almost everytime. SEGA has actively been shitting on him for over a decade and the fandom has been fantasizing and talking about how shit of a character he is for even longer.
I am done. I give up. If no one wants to enjoy Tails and his only reason for existence is to get shit on then I'm not going to go against the grain anymore. Fuck this faggot fox. I hope he dies a thousand deaths. I hope he gets thrown into scalding hot water and gets burned so bad that his fur falls off and he has full body scarring. I hope Sonic and his "friends" keep making fun of him and belittling him. He serves no other purpose than to be Sonic's #1 cocksucker so why treat him any other way? He was literally designed to be beaten, bullied and abuse. He has never been cool. No one on ST or in SOA or in the comics wants him to be cool He is there for nothing else other than to make Sonic look cool and stroke his ego.
Like I said this was discussed yesterday. Not even Sparky could come up with a SINGLE INSTANCE where this faggot fox is actually cool without using the power of his autism to headcanon things in. Everything surrounding this faggot is pathetic because HE is pathetic.
I hate him. I fucking hate him. I hate this character for wasting over 20 years of my life and I hate what few fans he has for wasting their lives on him too. He deserves nothing but mockery and torment.
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Air is the Element of Freedom
The ultimate expression of freedom and detachment from earthly attachments is flight.
Therefor, Tails is more free than Sonic.
>>534462246>Not even Sparky could come up with a SINGLE INSTANCE where this faggot fox is actually cool without using the power of his autism to headcanon things in.I gave a list of instances where Tails has been legitimately cool.
He even has TWO games where he singlehandedly takes down rogues galleries all on his own, no Sonic in sight. That will always be cool, and you know it.
The problem with Tails is that we want him to go BACK to where we have already seen him be, and go further. To say he was "NEVER" cool is just to outright lie to yourself.
>>534462357Tails is nothing more than a cocksucking wimp. Don't lie to yourself.
>>534462657>He even has TWO games where he singlehandedly takes down rogues galleries all on his own, no Sonic in sight.Not canon and even if it was no one played them anyway. Wanna know why? Because no one fucking likes Tails. Everyone likes Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles more because they're actually good characters that deserve fans.
Tails? The fuck is he worth other than being a faggot cheerleader?
>>534462246You donโt hate Tails you retard, youโve let othersโ opinions affect your own because youโre a sniveling weak-minded autist. You donโt spend 20 years liking something and trying to convince others that itโs good if you donโt like it immensely yourself. Youโre just mad at your own failure, and of what? Trying to change other peopleโs minds on the internet? That never fucking happens and it was never going to. And now because of it youโre just a mindbroken piece of shit whoโs trying to redirect blame onto a fictional character to deflect from the fact that youโre a RETARDED AUTIST.
>>534462903Let's play this game again then.
Name a SINGLE time in this entire franchise where Tails is officially useful and cool. I'll even let you use Archie which has Titan Tails in it.
I LOVE playing this game because it showcases just how useless and shit his character is.
>>534462852>Everyone likes Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles more because they're actually good characters that deserve fans.Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles are constantly misinterpreted and rewritten
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>>534462662No, YOU stop lying to yourself because as I just said:
>The problem with Tails is that we want him to go BACK to where we have already seen him be, and go further. To say he was "NEVER" cool is just to outright lie to yourself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFAuLcwOo0c
>>534462852>If you really want it, go and take your chancesAnything could happen, wisdom's your >advantage
>If you really want it, go and face the challenge>Fly to new horizons, find another passage>>534462852>Not canonYes, they are. Tails Adventure has a wallpaper on Sonic Channel, and Sky Patrol has a "sequel" in IDW which is canon as well.
>>534462852>and even if it was no one played them anyway.It doesn't matter. The games exist. Tails has had his own adventures fighting villains all by himself using his core strengths: his flight and his brains. Tails has already been cool. Upset that he hasn't been able to show that lately? Then get mad at SEGA. Not Tails himself. He's trying his best, so support him as much as you can.
>>534463351And yet Knuckles and Shadow gets a whole movie for themselves and Tails gets about uhhhhh 14 minutes of screentime.
>>534460245That defines his condition, not his age.
>>534463172SA1 when he beats Eggman on his own, SA2 when he frees Sonic from prison, basically anytime heโs playable in any game, Tails Adventure genociding birds, Boom cartoon where he pulls hoes, Nine in Prime, Lost World when he frees himself from the Zeti, Movie 3 when he breaks into GUN and saves Sonic from being incinerated, etc. Thatโs just off the top of my head. I donโt read the comics but Iโm sure heโs done SOME cool things there.
>>534446857I wish the autistic shipfags all got Thanos snapped.
You weren't here yesterday apparently so let me explain it for you.
I spent over 20 years of my life shilling and trying to get people to like this herpes-stained faggot only to be mocked, ridiculed and insulted almost everytime. SEGA has actively been shitting on her for over a decade and the fandom has been fantasizing and talking about how shit of a character she is for even longer.
I am done. I give up. If no one wants to enjoy Amy and her only reason for existence is to boss Sonic around then I'm not going to go against the grain anymore. Fuck this faggot hedgehog. I hope she dies a thousand deaths. I hope she gets thrown into scalding hot water and gets burned so bad that her quills fall off and she has full body scarring. I hope Sonic and his "friends" keep making fun of her and belittling her. She serves no other purpose than to be Sonic's mom so why treat her any other way? She was literally designed to suck Sonic's cock. She has never been interesting. No one on ST or in SOA or in the comics wants her to be interesting. She is there for nothing else other than to make Sonic look cool and stroke his ego.
Like I said this was discussed yesterday. Not even Sparky could come up with a SINGLE INSTANCE where this faggot hog is actually cool without using the power of his autism to headcanon things in. Everything surrounding this faggot is pathetic because SHE is pathetic.
I hate hER. I fucking hate her. I hate this character for wasting over 20 years of my life and I hate what few fans she has for wasting their lives on him too. She deserves nothing but mockery and torment.
You guys really just sit in here and ship?
it feels like tumblr
>>534464302It's the decease that effects every community, you must go deeper to realize the difference between every community platform
People are turning on Eggman
https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/i-voted-for-ivo-robotnik-to-lower-the-cost-of-eggs-not-steal-my-chaos-emeralds/
I wish I was a super genius prodigy like tails....
I don't need Tails to be cool, to be a fan of him. Do I want that? Of course I do, I wanna see Tails reach the highest of all the heavens. I wanna see Tails have the level of respect and recognition that Sonic does. But do I NEED to see that? No, not really. Because, that's not why I connected with him in the first place.
What made me a Tails fan was relatability. I was a shy, quiet kid who always latched onto someone cooler and louder to follow around. I wanted to be someone like Sonic, but I had to realize one day that I'm not Sonic. It was in that moment that I understood Tails, as I felt that he and I were in a similar position. And so, I embraced being "Tails". I became a big fan of Tails. My favorite color is yellow and orange, (also blue, of course), because of Tails.
Tails became a central baseline for my sense of identity, and I practically wear that loud and proudly. I look up to Sonic and see everything I wish I could be. But when I look at Tails, I see a mirror. I mirror showing who I once was, a mirror showing who I am now... and a mirror showing everything I KNOW I could be.
I want to see Tails reach the highest of all the heavens, because that's what I want to attain for myself, so I resonate with Tails' own aspirations to reach those same heights. I aspire to be like Sonic some day, but I'm inspired by Tails being able to keep up. And I know that someday, Tails WILL reach those heights. It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow... But in time, that day will come. And when it does, I'll be there cheering him on.
>>534458756And the catbox is down.
>>534464661>I embraced being "Tails".>Tails became a central baseline for my sense of identityTotally not a sign of autism. Not at all.
>>534464892Why does that matter to you?
>>534463981>SA1 when he beats Eggman on his ownDidn't happen. At best you can say he temporarily stopped Eggman's plan and pretty much the entire rest of Tails' SA1 story is him fantasizing about what he would do if he was in Sonic's shoes.
>SA2 when he frees Sonic from PrisonAmy does that.
>Anytime he's playableHe's literally just Sonic but easy mode because he just flies and ignores all the level geometry.
>Tails AdventureNo one played it and it was a piss easy game for babby's first metroidvania.
>Boom cartoon where he pulls hoesZooey became a penpal and was later retconned to just be a random background character.
Perci never liked him. If you actually watched the episode all the guys were pining for her attention and made up stories and fantasies about how she fell in love with them.
>NineDepressed, emo, school shooter incel who got rightfully thrown into the void because no one fucking liked him including his only "friend."
>Lost WorldYou mean the game where he throws a temper tantrum over working with Eggman (he has already done this multiple times by now) and directly gets himself caught because he can't fight and started cowering when the Zeti got to him?
>Movie 3Knuckles was the one who busted them out. Knuckles was also the one who saved them from free falling to Earth because Tails, being the bitch that he is, passed out trying to save Sonic.
>I'm sure he's done some cool things in the comics.Factually incorrect. Even his own super form was a hilariously out of tune with the rest of the comic to the point where no one can legitimately take it seriously, not even Sparky.
Try again.
>>534464991Why does your manifesto matter?
Why does anything you say matter?
>>534465008>disingenous deflecting and liesYeah weโre done here, youโre just a raging autist retard
>>534465008>didn't happenThats why he has the chaos emerald in SA2. They gift it to him for him stopping Robotnik's missile strike on station square
>>534465008Nta but he's a good sidekick
>>534465008>Didn't happen.Stop lying.
That entire post, you're finding any excuse to downplay Tails' achievements, or even rewrite the narrative entirely. And I know darn well you'll try and say that you're just saying the truth of the matter, but you're not. You know you're not. You're just hating to hate. You've turned yourself into Eobard Thawne, biggest fanboy who became so disillusioned that you became his biggest hater and you're going out of your way to try and tear Tails down as much as possible...
But deep down, it's because of your own pain. As a Tails fan. That tears you up inside so much, you gotta tear everything else down. That pain is a poison, and you have to let it go. All your years as a Tails fan weren't the waste of time, it's what you're doing now. Because this isn't accomplishing anything. You're only making yourself suffer.
>>534465373The Chaos Emerald he has in SA2 was a fake that he made. Do you even play the fucking games that you talk about?
>>534465926>I kinda don't care.jpgHatred is the opposite of not caring.
I wonder how's Vertekins and CrushertheDoctor. Haven't hear of those geeks ever since we mutually blocked each other on Tumblr.
Then again, I haven't heard of any IDW controversy for a solid minute.
Have any of you geeks know why that Tumblr user, Colony Drop Program, vanished from the site? It is true some losers traumatized her by mocking her mother's death?
>>534465727The one thing that Tails is very good at is showing his ass
>>534462246>>534464163Tails and Amy jobbing together!
Tails and Amy losing fans together!
Tails and Amy getting bestiezoned together!
Tails chauffeuring Amy around rather than doing anything interesting in IDW!
Amy being an inconsistent mess of mischaracterization while Tails watches in horror!
Tails and Amy falling into the pits of the underworld together!
Tails and Amy!
>See Sparky post
>Immediately hide it without reading
So anyway, yea. Fuck this faggot fox. No one can come up with a single time he isn't a useless cocksucker. I wish I had saved more torture porn of him over the years. Unfortunately I have to scour the internet for them or use my old disgusting Tails folder.
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>>534462246 and now you wanna say you donโt care
>>534465971>The Chaos Emerald he has in SA2 was a fake that he made. Do you even play the fucking games that you talk about?Media Illiteracy right here.
Here's the ACTUAL story going on:
Tails saves Station Square from Eggman's deadly missile attack.
Station Square awards Tails with the yellow Chaos Emerald.
Tails studies the Chaos Emerald to make the Fake replica.
Tails gives the fake Chaos Emerald to Sonic, while he keeps the real one.
Eggman deduces that Sonic might have the fake, and goads Tails into spilling the beans.
Eggman sends Sonic and the fake out into space and "kills him", before going after Tails to get the real one
While Sonic saves himself using Chaos Control with a FAKE Emerald because he's an absolute giga-chad, Tails fought Eggman. But after Eggman was defeated, he steals the real Chaos Emerald and then puts it into the Eclipse Cannon, which activates Gerald's final message stuff.
Tails having the real, actual Chaos Emerald because of his accomplishment in SA1 is a MAJOR plot point in the whole game.
>>534466334You were never a real Tails fan
>>534466487Can you point to a single line of text or dialogue that suggests that Station Square awarded him the CE?
>But after Eggman was defeated.This again, factually did not happen. Eggman beats Tails in the canon because nothing else makes sense. How the hell would Eggman be able to steal a CE while he's broken down and/or passed out? Tailsfags as usual making up entire headcanons to make their character look better than he is. Don't worry. I don't fault you for doing so. I did the same thing for literal decades but you have to understand at some point that it's simply not worth it.
Tails appears in so many issues of IDW but feels like he never does anything important, why is that?
>>534466927Ian hates Tails
>>534466927Because he's a shit fucking character.
>>534467031What about Stanley?
>>534467118Stanley was do bad at following directions it was a miracle he wasn't fired years ago.
>>534463172I donโt need to. You just deflected again from everything I said because thatโs where the problem lies. Youโre running away from your own problems and scapegoating a fictional cartoon fox child. Deal with that
Driving in my car right after a beer~
Hey that Bump is shaped like a Deer~
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>>534466838>Can you point to a single line of text or dialogue that suggests that Station Square awarded him the CE?There's a newspaper article about it that Rouge hands to Eggman. Eggman reads the article out loud, and the Japanese version's dialogue goes as follows:
>Miles Prower, aka Tails, the hero of the city who saved Station Square from the horror of the falling missile, receives Superintendent General's award. The city gave him a huge gemstone, the Chaos Emerald, as a token of their gratitude...>Eggman beats Tails in the canon because nothing else makes sense. How the hell would Eggman be able to steal a CE while he's broken down and/or passed out?The Hero story showcases a short glimpse at Eggman stealing the Chaos Emerald after he was beaten by Tails.
Anti windfags keep outing themselves as non fans by implying that "Boring Gary stunic" is some sort of recent change
They had to cut out the scene where Tails kills Lanolin at the climax of the phantom rider arc and Tangle giving him a huge high-five because SEGA said it was ooc or whatever, so he feels less important now.
>>534464163She tries to trap Sonic in a rape lake
>>534467861 (me)
Also, video links (timestamped)
Eggman stealing the Emerald:
https://youtu.be/px7CH5NVQXQ?t=1583
Newspaper article:
https://youtu.be/44vrCtIguN8?t=1224
You mindbroke this poor soul
Reminder that Sword of Courage, despite the praises, is completely ignored. The community doesn't care about that manga beyond Twitter points.
>>534468506Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations
Why even call it Sonic racing when half the roster is not Sonic?
Where do Sonic fans that actually enjoy cool shit that aren't plugged into IDW faggotry live? It can't just be here and /v/ right? Like all I can find is Black Sonic Twitter.
>>534469353AIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>Sonic characterization right
>Japanese
Yet nobody cares.
Like clockwork.
>>534469202Anon...are you even Sonic friend?
>>534469202yeah since is called crossworlds and clearly is meant to be a smash car game with the random guest characters
>>534469202>Why are there non-Gokus in my Dragon Ball Zee game?
>>534469491>Shoes in the bed Raggedy ass hoe
>>534468783This is honestly just kind of sad. I'd rather have an autistic and adamant characterfag that annoys me than whatever this is.
>>534469202So, ya geeks. Who is missing among the Sonic characters for ya to be mad' bout?
>>534463962I'll just wait until he's a nice mature fox guy and ask him out. I love him, so I can wait
>>534469648So why not call it Sega Crossworlds
This is as stupid as calling Smash Bros
Mario Brothers Fighting Universe
>>534469202no Marine
no Gemerl
no Eggman Nega
no buy
>>534464530>eggsimps voted for robotnik >got eggman nega instead>he's sending another 8 billion rings to Temple Zone>he was on the Zavok flight logsoh nonononono ahahahahahah
>>534457926>Astrobotted shill shitter>"We stole all our ideas from nintendo and still got forgotten" award.
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>>534469202>Someone was seriously angry about Fred the Egg Pawn joining the roster
>>534469202i have a feeling that one anon is gonna meme magic ice spice into this game the same way sonic got into sotm
>>534469202Never in my life have I seen a franchise hate itself more than Sonic. It's like the longer it goes on the more the devs spite us for it.
>>534470380There is always the Spider-man franchise.
>>534469202>>534470380>Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed has 7 Sonic Characters and 24 Non-Sonic Characters>Faggots like you:......>Sonic Crossworlds has 28 Sonic characters (revealed so far, Werehog and Prime characters are not in the screenshot) and so far 14 non-Sonic characters revealed>Faggots like you:NOOOOO CROSSSLOP CROSSSLOP WHERES SONIC???
>>534470380No, it's just sonic fans are whiny idiots who want everything to revolve around one character instead of the WORLD he lives in.
It's like complaining the dragon balls aren't showing up in every episode, or why naruto doesn't have every episode focus on naruto, or why hunter x hunter has side arcs
>>534470605They just spend all day on twitter so they bitch like a twitter user too.
You expect more Sonic characters?
They canโt even afford to voice half of them.
>>534470553with Improved Physics mod it is
>>534470605>Sonic & All-Stars RacingAnon, it literally says what it is and what to expect in the name.
>Sonic CrossworldsSounds like a Sonic game that would feature traveling across different worlds/dimensions.
>>534470221>>534470542ice spice
spider man
Anyone else?
>>534470806I asked what characters were missing and nobody answered.
Gemerl and Marine? That is a bummer. Eggman Nega? Who gives a shit?
Infinite? Fuck you.
>>534470071Because it has sonic in the name for sales but probably most the guest characters aren't even going to be sega related anyway
>>534470959Hannah Montana LETS GO BABYYYYYYY
>>534470894Yeah the different worlds/dimensions are Crossovers, they weren't shy about it in their marketing so you have 0 reason to bitch about it, actually you have negative reason seeing Crossworlds will have the biggest roster of Sonic characters of all Sonic Racing games.
>>534471081That's so hilarious out of touch and outdated that I genuinely could see SEGA doing it.
>>534470806Loona finally letting Blaze have a turn
>>534470974Fang and Trip
spin-off games should not have to follow the classic/modern division
Please make adult sizes...please make adult sizes...
>>534471357ew you want those? blegh
>>534471357kid's franchise, anon
Wait do we know for sure the rest of the rooster are from other franchises?
>>534471357These are kid sized shoes for a reason anon...
>>534471506They haven't revealed Super Sonic yet, and they might add future Sonic characters for free as well
>>534464001The ironic thing is no-one would notice because they never shipped themselves
>>534471430>>534471462>>534471584NTA but I would wear the Tails shoes in public just to ragebait irl.
>>534471430>>534471462>>534471584I'll never be lucky enough to get the timbs, so the least they could do is let me get the pumas in adult sizes.
>>534471506I just gonna be more Nickeloden IPs
>>534471506Well, there is Joker, Hatsune Miku, the guy from Yakuza; and Spongebob, Aang, and the Ninja Turtles; and Steve from Minecraft.
>>534469202Be real with me here guys...
How long until we get a game where you're not even playing as Sonic but you're playing as some kind of shill character instead while Sonic is reduced to an NPC?
At the rate SEGA is going it's clear Sonic will no longer be the draw of his own games anymore but it'll be the crossover character who is carrying the sales.
>>534471762jesus christ kill yourself, you're trying too hard
>>534471742Are you ready for resellers to ruin this too kek
>>534471762At least we're not like Crash or Spyro haha.
>>534471762Japan is already saying this is gonna happen with the game not showing up at any major showcases and the Japanese version focusing on Miku
>>534471762Well, there are multiple crossover games in Japan done by Sega and Sonic is in none of them because he is not popular.
Ulala met Ryu and Chun Li before Sonic did in either Wreck it Ralph or Smash.
>>534471762Sonic Forces sucked bro
>>534471928And Sega still just can't take the L that Sonic is not liked in Japan
>>534471742Not a hype beast , fast internet fucker, or resaler will get in my way for these timbs
>>534471928Imagine SEGA being so buckbroken that they make a game where you replace Sonic with Mario and play as him instead. That would be the final and ultimate cuck
>>534472172As much as people argue it doesnโt matter it does make it harder to justify a crossover with Sonic if youโre a Japanese franchise.
>>534471927Black Pink is flopping and suddenly Miku and the other idols are flourishing
>>534470380I think Sonic Team never recovered from the backlash to 06 and the subsequent backlash to Unleashed. They have actually given up out of spite because their plans for Sonic in the mid 2000s were totally canceled and replaced by Meta slop and Western pandering because the audience simply hated their ideas.
>>534472102abusing and castrating shadow!
>>534472508Rosรจ is the only one really thriving pkus labobo craze they started
Sonikku hedgehoggu
Amy rosu
knucklu echidnuru
Miresu "Tailsu" Prowah
SHADOO DAH EDGEHOE
Rugeo battu
Creamu rabbittu
Vanillau rabbittu
Silvaru hedgehoggu
Blazu cattu
Biggu cattu
Metallu sonikku
EGGMANNU
>>534472685Not our fault their ideas sucked.
sonic is for preschoolers
restraining shadow and forcing him to cum and then purposely overstimulating him to the point of pain
>>534472508>Black Pink is flopping Lisa literally just proved she's still number but I'm sure Miku will continue to thrive as for Mina...
Rank these characters by how sexually depraved they are.
Sonic, Tails, Eggman, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Blaze, Silver.
If you can't do it right you aren't a Sonic fan.
>>534470169i recognize those cigarettes!!
>>534469202If I remember correctly, someone found Whisper's board in the game files.
>>534474280no wait i think it's these
>>534472654But Sonic, I'm an art tracer, I get off at people thinking my work is the original and bring nothing but misery and shame to the actual artists who are more talented than me, I feel it in my semblance of a soul.
>>534474084She's even wearing her colors she wants that glitch gone
>>534474602Just remember, before AI was a thing the general drama revolved around tracefags.
That means artists in general are whiny bitches.
>>534474602ew, you're honest? gtfo
Anti windfags aren't fans
Playing some SADX right now
I wish there was a mod to give Metal's dash trail a magenta color
>>534474729Sonia clears this chick easily
>>534473624OOC my GOAT doesnt drink
>>534475515Despite being non fans who don't like Sonic, they keep coming here
>>534475594>mistakes sonia for a knockoff labubu
>>534476080You think she finds Chao cute
>>534475793Cool. Now if you excuse me, I'll keep consuming the product.
>>534476256Dua Lipa likes Chao pretty based
"I can't believe they made Sonic's character so boring, why can't windfags admit they changed him for the worse"
>Looks inside
>It's traits Sonic always had
>The things they "miss" were added in idw and Archie.
>Never a videogame
What was the name of that fancomic where Sonic was retconned to be a tranny
only 5 people visit this general and it's always the same ones
>>534475264What happens if a hedgehog has both
Women of /sthg/, why can't you look like Bump? Literally what is stopping you from looking like this? No excuses, I want real and honest answers.
>>534476664Swimming in mentally illness!
Ooh-ooh-ooh-oh, ah-ah-ah-ah!
Now we're all mentally ill!
Ooh-ooh-ooh-oh, ah-ah-hah!
>>534476664The hack really killed this site huh?
>>534476664I blame toxic behavior.
>>534477913https://files.catbox.moe/vd6g7a.webm
>>534478452I try very hard.
Honestly I might leave myself I'm more interested in discussing peaches and eggplants these days more than sonic
There's probably sixteen regulars here and some of them are the same people in disguise
AW YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO JUMP IN SHADOW'S PANTS!
Sal... Sal please speak up!
Who got that one pic of sonic man...
Were you guys the Sonic/Naruto running autists or were you the Mario BLJ chads in High School?
>>534478663I am five people
>>534478663I am sure that's kinda true but some people here are also way too paranoid sometimes. Sometimes I get shit because people think I am other problematic posters
>>534479002>High SchoolI was the bullied dork.
>in univeristyI was the bullied dork.
>at jobI am the bullied dork.
>>534478576Marvel got my undivided attention with those beach skins
>>534479002I'm not autistic, but I definitely Sonic ran. I also made a friend in gym class that Sonic ran with me. He was a cool guy...
>>534479002I used to be part of the Mario clique in my High School until one of my friends accidentally clipped into the wall. Apparently people can still hear him screaming inside there.
>>534479370>Misaligned his QPUsSkill issue. Hopefully his family was able to restore their honor after his failure.
This general is one person
>>534479002>Sonic/Naruto run Yes as long as one tried to physically hurt me for my cringe behavior i didn't care
My friend brought his dad copy of unleashed for p3 and the teacher ended up taking it lol he got it back tho
>>534479961You're late
E Rank for you
>>534479998slimey egg laying vibratng doom d*ldo with wings!
>>534429708The difference in OOCness between movie Goku and canon Goku are identical to those between real Sonic and Archie Sonic. Yet you absolute fucking mouthbreathing retards will scream that Archie Sonic isn't a rape of the character.
>Both take the "teenage" part of the character and treat it like a literal character trait>Both give the character insecurities they never had>Both give the character levels of angst and personal weakness that they never had>Both make the character more of an intentional hero than the source material>Both made the character interested in romanceArchie/IDW Sonic only gets away with it because they didn't change his design.
Also fuck you anyways. DBE Goku unironically put more research into the character than Archie Sonic
>His hair will always return to its original shape>Goku was at least open to marriage in the original>DBE Goku can still eat inhuman amounts of food>DBE Goku still enjoys fightingBut comicfags get told to keep the most basic details of Sonic the same and immediately start seething
>NO YO WANT SONIC TO BE A FLAWLESS GOD>NO YOU WANT SONIC TO BE A BORING MENTOR>UUUH ISNT HE SUPPOSED TO BE A MASCOT WITH ATTITUDE It's almost like he was inspired by Santa or something.
And no. Sonic didn't "Change" into "windnic" you fucking retards. If anything he is more comedic nowadays than he has ever been in the games. I'm fine with that level of adjustment. But evidently you don't play the games at all.
>>534480427This argument is still going?
Iโve not been here in a month or so
Howโs the general been holding up I guess
the sonic characters are literally made for children to understand and then there are adults like yourselves who can't see how violently ooc idw is
>>534480773It's worse now.
But this general is against IDWnic
Well, Surgeanons are in favour of IDW but they know little to nothing
>>534480773Same old suffering
>>534471651canon and in character
I'll get you later, Fiona.
>>534480773Aside from the same few shitposters having their usual meltdowns over the same stuff, it's been more or less the same since Summer started.
I think sthg is better now than it has ever been. Unlike a few years ago I actually enjoy coming here. I think most of my problems were the comic defenders who are dwindling now.
>>534481120Japanese children are smarter than American adults
>>534481676I think it's just comicfags. Normie Sonicfags who only play the games like Fadel or whoever have a better grasp on Sonic than people who try and convince themselves that IDW Sonic makes any sense.
you know what I really miss
are those rare fanfics or youtube animations that included a massive crossover cast, long-ass plot involving the world at stake, and a nice conclusion that actually gave closure to the audience
>>534469202>All the characters on teams next to each other So Silver and Blaze still don't have a third.
To the person who asked where this was in the previous thread.
https://x.com/IGN_es/status/1953465061415977226
>>534446857I just wish you replaced all lesbians in Sonic by bisexuals.
>>534481676>Japanese children are smarter than American adultskys weeb
>>534469202Disgusting and utterly soulless. Imagine thinking Eggpawn and Zazz are doing any fans of this shit series a favor, and then they pad out more than half the roster with non-Sonic shit, and then they can't even shit out voice acting for the guest characters, Prime fags, and Werehog. Pure garbage.
>>534482121It's true though. Not even being a weeb Americans are just retarded.
>>534480773sthg is better now than it was in the past because a greater percentage of it likes the actual games now
>>534482034>0 videos about itI like that Sega is being confident with Crossworlds and giving it AAA funding in marketing, but at least spend that money well man.
>>534475202SA2 Metal doesn't a have magenta dash trail mod either
Wow. I wonder why Prime is getting more representation than IDW in the brand. It's almost like a Sonic cartoon for toddlers is more culturally relevant than a grimdark discount Archie that can't get a single one of the characters right.
>>534481120The kids love IDW Sonic and movie Sonic. Movie Sonic is the most popular version of Sonic, including in Japan
>>534481512You can't handle me.
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Wow it's a den of sonic fans. Are you all autistic?
>>534482776Kids only like the movies. I've only seen stunted adults gas up IDW.
>>534483045I want to be a fox mobian
>>534483084What website do you think you're on
>>534482032Noticed that too. Silver and Blaze will always be chopped.
>>534483142>engaging with the bait
>>534483103And yet windfags canโt grasp the basic truth that not even the same writers can keep their own characters acting "IC"
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>>534483105I too want to a foxian, and brush my loooooong tail from time to time.
Shitposting in my thread right after a beer
Hey that Bump looks like it's made by a Deer
Report and hide?
How about you die.
I'll spam a hundred posts in an hour.
Little do you know, I bought a VPN and pass
Imma get your thread bumping ass
Pulverize this slut with sthg sloth smut
It seems she's outta luck
BUMP
>>534482743More people watch TV than read comic books. That's not just a Sonic thing.
>>534483264I'll engage your dick next
>>534483316This isn't even a coherent sentence.
>>534483045that zipper gives easy access for a lot of things
So, what do you think happened to them now that they're never gonna get another game? Must suck to be an out of work video game character.
>>534483316>And yet windfags canโt grasp the basic truth that not even the same writers can keep their own characters acting "IC">Iizuka writing Shadow more hostile than Maekawavs
>Ian Flynn arguing that Sonic should be able to cry and talk about his interpersonal failings
>>534483675Don't worry, they'll find a home in the porn communities.
>>534483440>Stylized T made me read IT as 17
>>534483765Did you ever play SA1
>>534483142i come from /co/, i'm just visiting around. Are there autists here or not?
>>534483840The 3D Sonic game where Sonic has the least dialogue? Yes. In both english and japanese. He is absolutely nothing like his IDW "counterpart"
>>534483394Actually made me chuckle nice one.
>>534483485Things like what? You won't find any rings here.
>>534484020Almost everyone here is on a spectrum of some sort
>>534483796You know, I don't even think they'll get that.
It's amazing how Sonic has the same basic conflict in Frontiers compared to IDW. Frontiers being written after IDW and by the same guy. But Sonic doesn't stop to panic and stare at his hands in horror feeling like a helpless little bitch.
>>534484020>are there autists hereYou could say that.
>>534484486sexo is what i will find
>>534469202All the Sonic characters who matter are accounted for. The cast of Sonic Heroes are the main characters.
+Silver and Blaze
+Babylon Rogues who are racing characters
+Eggman Family
+Zavok I guess, but I don't know why the Deadly Six are still around when other villains are not
Who else could you add?
>Eggman Nega>Infinite>Gemerl>Tikal>Chaos 0>Shara>Erazor>Merlina>Chip>Marine>Chao Walker>Maria
>>534484020I want Eggman to fuck Sonic, does that answer your question?
What's the difference between asking
>Sonic characters for this feel?
and
>Sonic characters with this feel?
>>534469202Why the fuck are Zazz, Cream and Silver closer to pick than the Rogues
Or even Sage
>>534484020Nigga this is 4chan. The whole fucking website is autists
>>534484860Heroes is like the PS2/Xbox version of 06 in the sense that it was a botched debut of Sonic on 3rd party and Sonic Team keeps forcing concepts from that game to work despite the backlash
>>534469202They saw Fortnite and wanted some of that crossover slop money.
>>534483394So is Sage supposed to be Bumps friend or rival? I honestly can't tell because they're drawn together so much but Sage is usually depicted as hating on Bump.
https://www.tumblr.com/search/uwuver?src=typed_query
Even tumblr shits on Uwuver. I think Evan deserves to be in jail for what she did to Silver.
>>534471927>the Japanese version focusing on Mikulmao this can't be true
>>534483394So is Sage going to rape Bump then?
>>534485326They're friends. Sage is just an extreme tsundere and retarded but it's okay because Bump is also retarded.
Windfags expect me to take them seriously when the "IC sonic" writers cannot even make up their minds on if rings exist, currency is real, what people call the furry animal people, or what their own fucking planet is called.
Imagine if Tolkien never named the races, or gave a name to the lands they live in. No chud theyโre not HOBBITS or ORCS theyโre just all people, chud. Stop calling it Mordor or Middle Earth, itโs Frodo's world you fucking chud.
>>534485179Not me! I just have Asperger's!
>>534485583>Windfags expect me to take them seriously when the "IC sonic" writers cannot even make up their minds on if rings exist, currency is real, what people call the furry animal people, or what their own fucking planet is called. Any lore inconsistencies are better than IDWNic
>>534471927>Sonikku? aaah you mean Miku Hatsune pet!!
>>534485085Because the layout is driven by Sonic, Shadow, and Eggman being on the first column.
>>534485551Only when (You) draw it anon.
>>534483394JUST FUCK ALREADY
>>534485583Sonic fangs have the worst baby duck syndrome Iโve ever seen in a fanbase, aside from maybe Pokemon fans.
Nothing is allowed to change. Everything must be stagnant. Youโre not allowed to break the 30+ year old imprinting on people who only played Sonic 1. Stop giving him shitty friends the series should only be a mute hedgehog jumping on robots every single game
>>534485583>Noooo Team Dark are friends!pound sand nigger
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>>534482032Why can't they just free her from the shitty Shadow knockoff already? She can form her own team with Marine and Gadon and leave the useless fraud behind.
>>534482032Silver and Blaze are a duo, that's their dynamic
>>534485583My favorite thing about IDW Sonic is that he will come and go. He will never have a real impact on the games. Just like Frontiers he will be mandated to be more like the games.
I am fine with minor inconsistencies as long as Sonic is Sonic.
It's so nice to know that Japan will always get the character right and America struggles to do it at all.
kek
>>534485907 was proven right in 15 seconds thanks to >534485940
>>534485958>Marine and GordonBlaze power is to leech to others to gain relevance
>>534486110>My lord and savior Windnic needing some random brat's helpOOC and westpilled manga.
>>534485958Because she can't be free from herself
>Blaze is not a shitty Shadow knockoff!!!whatever you say
>>534486226At least Marine and Gadon are her servants. Cream and Big were forced into a team with Amy despite them having no history or even dynamic together and for some reason nobody calls it out
>>534486110Movies have the most well known version of the sonic cast. Kids wonโt give a shit about windnic, gamenic, or anything else. The games and the rest of the media will fall in line with movienic.
>>534485085Closer to pick? nigga it's not like you're gonna pick them by reading them
>>534486354Blaze was actually well liked on debut and Rush is one of the most beloved Sonic games. What does Silver have that isn't just gaslighting people to think he's a good character or 06 is a good game?
>>534485907>Nothing is allowed to change. Everything must be stagnant. Youโre not allowed to break the 30+ year old imprinting on people who only played Sonic 1. Stop giving him shitty friends the series should only be a mute hedgehog jumping on robots every single gameI still don't understand this angle of discourse. IDW/Archie Sonic don't present a change. They're different mediums.
If you pick any of the games, regardless of his demeanor, dialogue, and supporting cast Sonic is literally always the unbreakable hero with incredible sheer force of will. There are literally two games where this shows any sign of wavering.
>When Chip is in mortal danger>When Tails is in mortal dangerand then never again. Never before.
I don't know if you're the same person doing this but it's always framed as an "inconsistency" or a "change" when the most inconsistent thing about Sonic across the games is simply whether or not he's very talkative.
That's not even getting into my opinion on the matter. Just the facts.
If we were talking about Amy, Tails, Shadow, or Knuckles there are clear instances of "This character wouldn't have behaved this way in this game". Sonic? The Sonic from Colors and the Sonic from SA2 are only different in the sense that one likes telling jokes... is that the big grand change I'm supposed to see as an excuse for IDW giving him self doubt?
I know that sounds viciously strict. But it's literally a plot point in the games that Sonic is straight up incapable of self doubt. Something they've never gone back on.
>>534485180More like Heroes is the blueprint and foundation of 3rd party Sonic so deviating from it is near impossible if you make these games with a "brand" mindset because Heroes is the origin of that mindset as a survival mechanism.
>>534485958>Shadow knockoffYeah Blaze should kill herself already.
In the most Sega move ever
Sega is selling Sonic themed controllers for Nintendo Switch for $165
Theyโre Switch 1 controllers
They have no extra features or buttons
After they dropped support on Nintendo
>>534484823Well that post seems logically sound at least.
>>534486597>Blaze is loved more then Silver, he's gaslighting all of you!Rush adventure was trash bro, that was Blazes strongest role, in her world with friends, she's more shit then him.
>>534486710He literally has a moment of self-doubt in Lost World.
>>534486597Shonen protag (Japanese "hero"), sex appeal, motifs, and themes.
As far as lore and relationships go he has fuckall except star-crossed lovers with Blaze.
Sonic is the wind
Shadow and Maria were in love
Amy will only ever love Sonic
You can have your headcanons but they are just headcanons in the end of the day.
>>534486486>The games and the rest of the media will fall in line with movienic.That sounds horrifying.
Just let the movies be their own thing.
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>>534486396>โTeam Rose is inorganic!โIโm glad this meme has decided to make an appearance. Itโs one of my favorites.
>>534486943Imagine being so obnoxious that you make me side with a fucking AI spammer.
>>534486801Welcome to the Church of Sparky.
>>534485958That what Silverfags want as well, but they're making progress instead of jelking it to cat girls.
>>534486793Sonic is so badly handled that I can't imagine how big it would be if it were handled by actually competent people
>>534486927none of the male sonic characters intentionally have sex appeal
>>534487006Itโs unavoidable just like how breath of the wild has fundamentally changed Zelda forever
>>534486914I won't correct your wording. I specifically mean a lack of optimism.
Sonic's "I was too slow to save my buddy" is him saying out loud that he failed. Sonic is never the guy to worry about IF he can do this. That was the entire problem with him in Lost World.
Lost World is not the first, last, or only instance of Sonic being critical of his own failure. If anything it's the most blatant sign that he isn't a developing character.
You're not going to get me with that one.
>>534486597Male hedgehog privilege and cute boy privilege
>>534486902Rush and Rush Adventure were both better received than 06.
>>534487049Heroes teams are some bullshit outside of Team Sonic and Team Dark and you know it. Team Chaotix gets a pass because they were literally whos and were recontextualized and their lore changed. Iizuka doesn't even consider them the same characters as their classic counterparts.
Nah you're not too autistic, seeya mah hogs i'm off to visit another 'g. Here's a gift. Stay fast.
>>534487293Better received means jack shit when they made less money then it.
>Sonic? aaaah you mean Mario's side kick
>Sonic? Isn't that Miku's pet?
>Spiderman should strive to be responsible
Everyone agrees
>Eddy should try to scam people
Everyone agrees
>Batman shouldn't kill
Everyone except retards agrees
>Goku should enjoy fighting
Everyone agrees
>Atem should love games
Everyone agrees
>Sonic is the wind
Autistic screeching about how he should be more like muh comix
>>534487138Knuckles and Silver are definitely supposed to be sexy.
>>534487207>Sonic is never the guy to worry about IF he can do thisExcept he literally says "I'm supposed to be the fastest, but I was too slow to save my buddy".
That is an obvious moment of self-doubt. "I'm supposed to be X, but I wasn't X enough to do Y, (Inferrence: "Am I really X?")" which is Sonic doubting himself.
I know story cues are hard for Windfags to understand. They need to have everything bashed onto their heads through bios and expository dialogue, but that was obviously self-doubt.
>>534487049Except it's fucking true. None of these characters have a dynamic with each other. None of these characters have any prior history with each other. This team makes absolutely no sense and is the most forced grouping ever.
>>534487371Nigga can you talk?
>>534487437Thereโs nothing about wind in sonic until SA1. The fundamental games (1-3) only have a bubble shield, electric shield, and fire. There is no wind shield.
If anything heโs lightning
How would you react if this was made canon?
>>534487437>>Batman shouldn't kill>Everyone except retards agreesReally, windtard?
>>534487424They both made more money than 06. They sold a combined amount of over 2 million units. 06 was a flop sales wise and critical wise unlike Rush.
>>534487660What is this AI slop implying exactly?
>>534487534You lonely faggots talking about relationships? being friends doesn't automatically mean they will have a dynamic.
>>534487736>06 was a flop sales wiseIt wasn't.
Is there a single wind element to sonic until fucking heroes
Windfags are just heroesbabs. Grim
>>534487858Sonic Wind was a thing in SA2.
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>>534487659>If anything heโs lightningB-B--B-BBBB---B-B-B-B-B--B-B-B--B-B-B-B-B...B.-B-B--B-B-B-B-B-BAAAAASED?!!
>>534487736>The conversation derailed from Silver to 06When will you fags learn it's his debut, doesn't mean he's related or that any of us fucking like it
>>534486396Nobody calls it out because it's generic anime ideas at face value that sounds like it should work
>genki pink girl with spunk looking for her boyfriend >giant simple male looking for a friend>small sweet girl looking for her pet>the boyfriend is connected to it all>they need to work together and go on an adventure
>>534487502You can keep trying but Sonic monologuing to himself in fear that he isn't capable of stopping the metal virus is going to be OOC.
Sonic preaching to Surge about some made up philosophy that involves everyone living is OOC.
IDW is toilet paper and its OCs are only good for two things
>Coomers>lgbt youth hypeThat is all they're going to be remembered for when they're finally vaulted.
>>534487779It literally spells it out for you
>>534487736What are you even trying to prove here? all games with Knuckles in them probably out sold SA2, Does that mean Knuckles is better and more loved then Shadow?
>>534487931>the movies were right about Sonic the whole time
>>534488049>No counter-argumentShut up, woman. Go back to the kitchen.
HEY GUYS WHAT IF SHADOW WAS RAPED BY SALLY ACORN
WHAT IF HE WAS RAPED BY A WEAKLING WOMAN WITH NO POWERS
>>534488049Get a job krack
>>534488180I'm correcting the idea that 06 sold more than Rush
And btw, Blaze is easily more liked than Silver. Nobody hates her character meanwhile they had to totally rewrite Silver in the comics and that only shifted the slander he has towards something else.
>>534488319Yeah yeah, go make me a lasagna, stupid whore.
*Slaps your ass on the way out*
>LIGHTspeed dash
>SA1 fans donโt spam every discussion of Sonic with "soNiC iS the WiNd"
>Sonic gets a wind move in SA2, heroes, and a literal child says heโs LIKE the wind, not IS the wind
>windfags proceed to shit up every discussion online for the next 20 years
>>534487659Anyone can use the elemental shields, so Tails and Knuckles would also be lighting by that logic
>>534488086>Tails never existedBut why is Rouge there?
You hobos are dumb
Blaze and Silver are together because they are boring, not the opposite way around, you should focus on making them less boring first.
>>534488663Sonic is the divine wind. Cope.
I remember showing Silver to a non fan I know. told them he is supposed to be rude and brash and showed them his dialogue in Rivals. they said they couldn't take him seriously because of his design.
anti windfags have no argument for the fact that Blade of Courage and Shadow's manga both just use the characterizations you see in the games meaning IDW was never Sega's vision.
>>534488426Blaze is too boring to hate
>>534488426>they had to totally rewrite Silver in the comics and that only shifted the slander he has towards something else.Anon, Silver character in the comic was based on slander. that didn't shift it anywhere, that made it more canon.
>>534488782sega's vision sucks anyways
>>534488723Silver and Blaze is boring.
>let's make the hot-headed tsundere calm and openTotal dogshit.
>>534488049>vote for trump solely to spite LGBT people>LGBT people continue to exist as they always have, while trumpfags still endlessly seethe every day and never shut up>trumpfags become poorer because trump would rather send their money to Israel instead and fuck kids on private islands >now epsteins wife is going to get a full pardon despite being one of the most prolific and disgusting paedophiles in huma. HistoryKys krack. You voted for an israeli puppet. Youโre a goy
>>534488908>based on slander No, it was based on Stanley's headcanons and fanfic. She honestly thinks that is what his character is like and honestly didn't know any better.
>>534488767That kinda works with every character, you're not supposed to tell them what the fandom likes about him but what's interesting to all, like timetraveler and psychic and shit
>>534488723They're together because Maekawa wanted to force another shitty ship like Shadria and totally nuked Blaze's character for it. It's among the many horrible sins of 06.
My favorite thing about this general is that no one can seem to agree on if this is the best writing ever or an unacceptable nightmare
>>534478312I know better than to go there.
>>534488782What characterization, dumbfuck? BoC Sonic has as much personality as a door, and any single example you point to is probably not something he has done in a game before.
Gamenic doesn't sleep in other people's beds, or is portrayed as a "weirdo" who gets both love and hate from people.
>>534488767His design is silly, though. Sonic and Shadow look closer to hedgehogs, while Silver has this weird palm/leaf thing on top of his head and two tentacle quills sticking out of the back of his head
>>534488767Why would you talk about Silver to a non fan
>>534488964>let's make the hot-headed tsundere calm and open>Total dogshit.That's what she's known for, and don't lie to me, you fags love her that way when she's with everyone but Silver.
>>534489271It's bad, even Sparky agrees. Some windfags just love to cope, though.
>>534489036>full pardonqualified immunity isn't a pardon you low information groyper dipshit
>>534489202A character's design usually reflects what the character is about. the same person happens to be into art and design. they could tell a lot about Shadow, Blaze and Sally by just looking at them
>>534489401Was introducing them to Sonic. they were interested. I've introduced them to games, Archie and idw.
Maria's ass is proportionate to how ass SA2 is.
>>534489271The best part of the episode is this. It makes me laugh to tears. Topaz calling the president to tell him the earth spins and the president's reaction to getting played https://youtu.be/vIz7_2tjcOU?si=gpZ6OIPv1RleT7Os&t=888
>>534489220Blaze literally has the most consisted character of everyone else, right after 06 her rush adventure turned her back immediately and there's barely any difference other then lore talk.
>>534489271What was wrong with this again?
>>534489610But SA2 was kino and Maria got cheeks for days
>>534489521>they could tell a lot about Shadow, Blaze and Sally by just looking at themThey would all think that Shadow is a villain
>>534489652That's because SEGA barely uses her in the first place. She's never had a main character role since Rush Adventure which was 17 years ago.
>>534489354I see it as the opposite, Sonic and Shadow look like cats while Silver looks like a spiked creature.
>>534489454No, I like that Blaze is a bitch. Silvaze frontloads the bitchiness immediately resolves it so they can spend the rest of the time being in sync and their brash/ controlled dynamic. With everyone else the bitchiness is resolved at the end.
>>534489653A forced attempt to make Sonic look smart by making everyone retarded.
Common trope with Mary Sues.
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>>534489521They couldn't tell Silvers hair and palm being psychic oriented or his cuffs and color are future oriented?
>>534489486HAHAHAHHAAH THE COPE IS UNREAL
She's going to be let off the hook. Almost a decade bitching about 'groomers' and you voted for the most reprehensible one.
Never view Silver from above, you will hate his design forever.
>>534489772they did. I introduced them to his character arc and now he's their fav
>>534489975I gave them an on model pic of Silver without introducing his character. their first assumption is that he is a "traveler"
>>534489892The way the english and japanese handle the scene. I can't tell which is funnierl
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>Because nobody asked me. I thought everyone knew this stuff alreadyUSA
>I thought it was obvious, I can't help it if you're slow.
>>534489834Oh so we agree
Imagine thinking the comics are in-character. God, you sure must feel stupid.
Where's that lasagna I asked, skank?
>>534490026Pardons and immunities are standard for criminal justice. This is a typical spin where the media presents something totally mundane as exceptional because they know ignorant morons like you eat it up. You're falling for literal propaganda.
>>534490030I already dislike his design. He sticks out too much compared to the rest of the cast IMO.
>>534485583>cannot even make up their minds on if rings existThe games explicitly mention rings existing, even in the Japanese manuals for the Mega Drive games. Rings are also still displayed in cutscenes, like in SA1, Shuffle and 2.
>currency is realCurrency has never not been real, according to SoJ. You're talking about the mandate, which has only ever applied to Western-made media, but SoJ has and still does consistently mention money. Sonic Channel just received a huge overhaul this year, and character bios still mention money being a thing. Sonic PICT (the monthly Sonic Channel art drawn by Karasuno that comes with a story written by her, Toyoda and Hoshino) mentions mortgages, etc.
>what people call the furry animal peopleThey've always just been called "people" in the games and on Tails Tube. What inconsistencies are there to be had? They've never been called anything else by Sonic Team.
>or what their own fucking planet is calledThe planet has been called Earth in every Japanese manual that mentions the planet, in SA2, in Riders, in Advance 3, in Unleashed, and so on. The only time you can argue any "inconsistencies" here is in the brief period where "Sonic's World" was used, but that and Two Worlds were scrapped as they more or less reverted to the Yuji Naka lore. Ian Flynn has stated countless times now on his Bumblecast that the planet is called Earth, which it has been called the majority of the time. Many instances of something outweigh the small few in this case.
You talk exactly like someone who engages with Sonic games on a purely surface level.
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>>534490629>unattended lasagna>orange catdo the math
>Silver ruined her forever! it's all his fault HIS FAUL-
Archie Archie Archie Archie
>>534490786Maekawa's fault. Archie didn't have any silvaze
Just going to throw this here
>>534490761Silver has always had that problem with his design. The others are all sleek or baldies. If they have hair, it's centered in the middle of the forehead or behind the head
>>534490786Silver actually got her killed off and Sonic Team can't explain how does she keep coming back. No other character has done that to another character in the history of Sonic.
>>534490767But why restrict mandates to only a certain region? Why is SoA not allowed to do certain things that SoJ can?
>>534490997No Silvaze in Archie is actually one of the few good things about that comic.
>>534485958Blaze is short a Knuckles and Silver doesn't have anybody from his future.
One one side
>Redeemnic
>Uwuver
>Shadow and Rouge going shopping together
>Amy moving past Sonic and becoming a girlboss
>Vanilla with an intimidating glare
>Eggman making spooky faces all the time
>LGBTQ "representation"
>Slutty "Town's bicycle" Acorn is a lesbian somehow
>Shadow and Maria are "sibling coded"
>Surge redeems
On the other side
>Surge stays a villain
>Shadow lost his lover
>Rouge is a complex and nuanced character who cares about people who aren't necessarily her best friends
>Sonic is a wandering enigma that brings inspiration across the world
>Silver is a warrior from the future who is aggressive on the outside but inside has hope for the future
>Eggman is a dangerous clown
>>534491295Just use Gadon
>>534491073Because we got Archie last time. And let's not dance around the subject: Sega knows the people working on IDW are obsessed with Archie.
>>534490693The only criminal justice she deserves is the death penalty.
>>534491361We can compromise and have both depending on what actually works you know.
>>534491621>CompromiseYou just don't get it.
>>534491361Surge works best as a mentally unwell girl who flips between hero and villain. Sheโs can be an actual antihero.
Shadow is not an antihero outside of the irrelevant shadow game. Heโs just straight up a hero.
>>534491268What the fuck are you talking about. Silver and Blaze interacted maybe three times in Archie and all but one of them were non-canon to the main book.
What do you think is Tailsโ default sleeping position? If I was him Iโd be hugging one tail and have the other between my legs. Probably feel so soft and wonderful
>>534491621Sonic doesn't compromise.
>>534487294>>534487534Like I said, I find this hilarious
>>534490767>The games explicitly mention rings existingHell, adding to this, YOU LITERALLY SEE SONIC LOSING RINGS IN A FRONTIERS CUTSCENE. Literally the most recent mainline game, not counting Shadow Gens. Rings have never not been canon, in ShTH Eggman used rings to fund his fucking amusement park.
>>534490767>The games explicitly mention rings existingProof?
>even in the Japanese manuals for the Mega Drive gamesAs part of the story or the gameplay? Those are different things.
>Rings are also still displayed in cutscenes, like in SA1, Shuffle and 2I'll assume this is true. That's because they use the game engine for the cutscenes as a limitation for the time period. The fact you don't mention newer games proves that.
>Currency has never not been real, according to SoJProof?
>Sonic Channel just received a huge overhaul this year, and character bios still mention money being a thing.Yeah, that's money. Vector had big dollar signs in his eyes and works for money so we're not disputing whether money exists, we're disputing what the currency is. Is it rings? Sonic buys hot dogs with rings in Unleashed. Does that mean Sonic's world has money floating around? Again, distinguish gameplay from story.
>They've always just been called "people" in the games and on Tails Tube. What inconsistencies are there to be had?The original complaint was clearly not about inconsistencies. It was about the lack of worldbuilding. We differentiate by race, but you want me to believe Sonic's world doesn't differentiate between human and Mickey Mouse toon?
>The only time you can argue any "inconsistencies" here is in the brief period where "Sonic's World" was used, but that and Two Worlds were scrapped as they more or less reverted to the Yuji Naka loreConcession with cope sprinkled in.
>Ian Flynn has stated countless times now on his Bumblecast that the planet is called EarthSo now Ian's word has value?
This whole post is just one big concession with some cope to try and minimize damage.
>>534491295>>534491452It's time to push the Norman agenda.
Fr it's stupid that being a duo without any meaningful shared lore has locked both of them out from ever doing anything meaningful with their settings.
What if I am a wind purist but I don't like to argue about it because last time I did I ruined the franchise for somebody and caused them to drop it forever.
>>534491940It's funny to me how Silver and Blaze never actually interacted in the Preboot and Reboot outside of the crossovers which delete themselves out of the timeline each time.
>>534492124Norman is more of a Big than Knuckles but I'd welcome him.
>>534491039I never thought about it but it's true. Even the IDW OCs seem to follow the design rules better.
Silver feels more like an OC than the actual OCs everytime I see him.
>>534492057>but you want me to believe Sonic's world doesn't differentiate between human and Mickey Mouse toon?The best argument I've seen against "Mobian" is that it doesn't actually make any more sense than when you try scrutinizing it in the first place
>All of these animal characters look kind of alike>Therefore they should be labeled as oen species But that doesn't actually work.
>Bats are related to humans compared to crocodiles>Crocodiles and Bats cannot be variants of the same species>Evolutionarily, all of these people would have to have descended from genetically unrelated animals>Millions of years separate Hawks from Swallows and Albatrosses and yet they form one tribeIf you really want to hold "mobians" under a magnifying glass, then there is no reason why there is a specific word for "All people who are not human" over "All people who are not echidnas" or "all people who are not rabbits".
>>534491730This kind of reductive thinking is why Sonic can't progress.
Shadria is disgusting as a romantic relationship and nothing is wrong with Shadow being sad over losing his sister figure.
Sonic can be mysterious and aloof or whatever but he believes in the good in people tries to get them to turn to the right side.
Rouge is whatever when the artists don't even know what to do with her design and she's mostly a sidekick for Shadow
Silver already flopped as a cool character. He can stay whatever the fuck his fangirls want him to be since they're the ones who give a shit about him.
Amy's obsession with Sonic is boring and weighs down her character. Getting rid of it is an objective good if it can force the writers to do something else with her
Surge is an inconsistent character so it doesn't matter what they do with her since it's clear the writers have no set direction for her
It doesn't matter who Sally fucks because she's irrelevant since her character has been totally written out of the franchise
>>534490761>>534491039>>534492294Silver was created to stick out because he was supposed to be the main character of his own game after 06.
>>534492294That's just another way Silver built around themes more than anything.
Silver is cool even if his debut story isn't fully/well developed
>>534490761>>534491039They had to give Silver quills that would stand out from the others
Sonic had his straight quills
Shadow had his upward quills
Amy had her downward quills
All the quill options were already taken, if you were a character designer in this situation you would end up with something similar just to have your character be able to stand out
>>534492461>but he believes in the good in people tries to get them to turn to the right side.The problem with this isn't simply that he didn't do it. IT's that when the japanese write him they immediately circle back to Sonic saying things along the lines of "You are hopelessly evil and will never change"
Even Crossworlds has this exact line.
>>534492857Silver is cool. Shadow is just cooler
>>534492908>Shadow is just coolerHe's the coolest
This series has good character designs
Because there is a clear difference between humans and mobians?
Mobians have muzzles or at least muzzle-shaped lower faces
Mobians have large toon spherical heads and toon proportions when it comes to their hands and feet. Large eyes and noodle-like limbs.
Mobians all have a mobini counterpart, while humans do not
I mean, you're just being purposefully retarded here. Even if we assume the humans in Sonic's world are toonified (Which depends on the game, yet another inconsistency), the first and third points still stand.
>>534492124So we got Blaze on speed, I gues Marine can figure out how to fly somehow and we got Norman for power. Blaze now has her own team and doesn't need Silver.
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Silver would look really hot if he had his quills down.
>>534490767>>currency is realI believe the mandate was not describing what the currency of the world is. Dollars? Yen? Rings? Don't mention it.
>>534491972Wrong answer, both of them are wrapped around Sonic.
Crossworld should have a racer of each Chao type a racer
and for each animal friend
>>534491073If Kishimoto word is to believed, the mandates are merely cultural in nature.
>>534493187He has the same haircut as the faceless guy who rapes the heroine in hentai
>>534493034The bigger question is can they crossbreed
>>534492057>Proof?Shadow, Gens, Advance 3, Shuffle. Frontiers shows it.
>>534492053>As part of the storyStory.
>The fact you don't mention newer games proves thatFrontiers. Sonic loses both rings and Chaos Emeralds.
>We differentiate by race, but you want me to believe Sonic's world doesn't differentiate between human and Mickey Mouse toon?Not according to SA1, where Amy is called a pink-haired girl several times by human NPCs.
>Concession Not a concession, the planet is called Earth. At one point, they also used Sonic's World, but that was scrapped.
>So now Ian's word has value?Yes. Any other questions?
>>534493249But backs turned cuz theyโre not gay right?
>>534493034>Because there is a clear difference between humans and mobians?>Mobians have muzzles or at least muzzle-shaped lower facesThe point still stands. You're applying a logical deduction but only halfway. I understand the point, but I'm not sure you do.
This collection of humanoid antrho characters looks similar, therefore there should be a term for them. That is your reasoning.
Your reasoning omits that if you continue pulling at this string, you have to contend with the science.
>In real life, there are many animals that look similar but are not related. Legless lizards, Snakes, worms, sea cucumbers>Fish, dolphins, whales, manatees>Birds and batsThe fact that there are "mobians" of each of these means that different species all evolved cohesively into similar human-like lifeforms.
That's fine on its own. Typical in fiction. Archie even brought this up as a possibility.
But because of it that renders all of them no more significant than humans. Why would Chameleons and Hedgehogs be in the same category when Lemurs and Humans, which are genetically related, are still separate?
>>534485958Focusing on her and only her is the ideal scenario, but since what the team want is Sonic as the protagonist, or that the protagonist has something to do with Sonic, Blaze and Silver are not options since they would require focusing on a different cast of characters.
Sucks, but it is what it is.
>>534447885I'm not sure if you're late to the news, but Nintendo already fixed that issue awhile back. Also as the other anon said, MK8D exists.
>>534491040She never died she dipped, they just don't care as per usual, And every death is related to another character stop being dramatic like a woman
>>534485958Sega really wants her shackled so silver for some bizarre reason. To the point people still argue over her inclusion in 06.
>>534493521Because they were in Russia. Precaution.
>>534482743>Wow the movies are getting a good chunk of the attention, is almost as if fucking casuals prefer casuality over nerd shit
>>534492807then you retread old ground in a new way. shadow is just super sonic. knuckles and amy both have down quills. tikal is a tweaked orange amy. metal sonic is sonic again but with less quills. blaze is big with a ponytail. but you know what would have been great? silver having a downwards ponytail both for the trunks comparison and as a matching theme with blaze
>>534493034>Mobians all have a mobini counterpart, while humans do notWhat the fuck does this even mean?
>>534492857>Thinks Shadow cheating like a little bitch is considered coolIf you were a braindead nigger
The best Shadow 05 ending is the one where he beats Sonic and then destroys the planet
>>534493902The best one is when he suggests suicide actually.
>>534493034>mobiniWhy do you expect everyone here to know what that is...?
>>534493624>Blaze has nothing to do with Sonicnigga
>>534493034>Because there is a clear difference between humans and mobians?>>534493581https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphyly
In real life what you're both describing is called polyphyletics. Unrelated animals that have roughly identical features but biologically have no actual similarity.
This accounts for dolphins, jackals, vultures, rats, snails, crabs, worms, and chickenhawks.
All of these animals are not actually related to the other animals with the same name. So these aren't scientific classes, just physical descriptions.
So it's not that strange for a term like "mobian" to exist. The only issue with it is that there might be negative cultural implications. But that's a lot to assume.
Rings exist and are used as currency by human characters. The best example of this is in Sonic Unleashed. Two kids in Spagonia have lost their Rings and ask Sonic to retrieve them so they can buy a gift to their mom. I am the only person in this general who interacts with the NPCs in Sonic games
>>534493882Shatdow keks btfo
>>534493581>The fact that there are "mobians" of each of these means that different species all evolved cohesively into similar human-like lifeforms.Uh, no? It just means the franchise has toon animal people. There is no proof that's how mobians came to be. A much more evolutionarily sound explanation would be that they were created artificially, since that many converging into sapience makes no fucking sense. But none of this even matters since the science isn't important, what's important is that the mobians exist and trying to sell me that we differentiate between black/white, neanderthal/homo sapiens but not between human/looney toon goes beyond what my suspension of disbelief can accommodate.
And even then, they would still need to differentiate between mobians and mobini. So no, calling Vector just "a crocodile" makes no sense since you can't know if it's the sapient kind or not.
I don't care for Crossworlds, but that anon here who fucking hates the Heroes trio thing is probably sperging out as we speak.
>>534494121I interacted once and she told me I cant go to a women's dorm
>>534492728Antoine was the only SatAM character who wasn't assassinated in Archie. In fact, he got upgraded.
>>534494298My point is that if you're going to hold "toon people" under a magnifying glass why ignore the rest of the implications behind that?
>>534494073Cool, she is a foil to Sonic. Now how do you write an scenario around her and her world that somehow involves Sonic in some way?
>>534494339Why is Egg Pawn before Sage lmao
Characters explicitly mention rings in Shadow, Unleashed, Gens, Shuffle, etc. Rings are a part of 3K and Chaotix's plot.
Rings were always a tangible thing that existed in-universe.
>>534494459Why is Egg Pawn there at all??? Shit ass roster.
>>534493034>Mobians>MobiniThis isn't Archie, bub.
>>534494339>Egg robot closer to Eggman than SageWhat did Sonic Team mean by this?
>>534493034Just say they're like Felix the Cat
imagine being bestie and walking in on this
>>534494339>Sonic, Tails, Knuckles>Amy, Cream, Big>Silver, Blaze, Shadow>Rouge, Omega, Vector>Espio, Charmy, Zavok>Zazz, Eggman, Metal>Eggpawn, Sage, Jet>Wave, Storm, Ichiban
What in fuck's name is a mobini?
>>534494298>So no, calling Vector just "a crocodile" makes no sense since you can't know if it's the sapient kind or not.Sure it does. In the adventure games Amy is simply called a "girl" when people talk about her in her absence. When characters are spoken to or about directly, their species may be mentioned.
"My dad was eaten by a crocodile" is obviously not talking about Jeff down the street.
>>534493409>>534492053Well then, I guess Vector is just a big fucking retard then. Why the fuck work for Eggman when he can just run around and collect money floating on the fucking ground?
>Not according to SA1, where Amy is called a pink-haired girl several times by human NPCs.So bad worldbuilding, got it.
>Not a concession, the planet is called Earth. At one point, they also used Sonic's World, but that was scrapped.So they can't decide. Concession. Got it.
>Any other questions?No, that'll be all for today.
>>534494442>Eggman and Eggman Nega want to merge the worlds>Eggman and Eggman Nega want to sever the worlds>Introduce a new Sol counterpartThere's a few concepts.
A thought exercise:
If Sonic is Dante, Shadow is Vergil and Silver is Nero (which I agree with) then this means the following.
Trish is Tails
Lady is Blaze.
That said, if we were to go strictly by gameplay:
Lady would be Tails and Trish would be Blaze.
Discuss.
>>534494668Animal friends
>>534494668Ian's name for wildlife
>>534494842Why did you invent that retarded name then when they're called Animal Friends?
>>534494768>Let's repeat the plot of Sonic RushNevermind the fact Rivals established Nega wants nothing to do with Eggman anymore.
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>>534494668Non anthro animals
>>534494339Is this the first time the Chaotix and the original Team Rose has been playable since Heroes?
Another day of thinking about Metal Sonic too hard and crying in the shower
>>534494121>>534494526Then why wonโt IDW show rings?
>>534494650>"Just join in"
>>534494940I didn't invent it it was Archie's word for the animals in between animals and animal people because in Archie lore the animal people are all animals that got spliced with human DNA by the alien gene bombs.
>>534494967Rivals isn't canon
>>534495129Because IDW isn't very faithful to the games it's supposed to be a continuation of.
>>534493902No the best ending is the one where he kills Eggman
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>antiwindfags now want a shitty "mobian" name
No other franchise that has both humans and anthro toons roaming freely has this issue. Archie rotted your fucking brains.
>>534495186<It's not canon because I don't want to
Faggot.
>>534495186>Rivals isnโt canonholy cope
Does Islander not work? Yes they don't only live on islands but you can just handwave it as their origin point.
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>>534493836Personally I would just give him the same 5 spines with a sleak forehead like Sonic and Shadow have but make them way more upwards than Shadow's like Modern Super Sonic
>>534495396>>534495408It literally has no place on the official timeline therefore Sonic Team doesn't see it as canon.
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>>534495160This thing? Anon we're talking about Sonic here
>>534494967With every passing year, the chances of Silver and Blaze repeating their arcs grow because their debut media is too old and they need to be introduced to new audiences
>>534495129Because it's the writer's own interpretation. He doesn't want the rings outside of the games, therefore, they don't appear.
It's not rocket science, you maggots, rings weren't in any other cartoon either (SatAM and X only made ONE ring, and X didn't even bother explaining what the hell that thing was).
>>534495160This is all true btw
The real issue with Blaze is the franchise lore keeps getting fucked with.
>>534494967>Rivals establishedNot quite. Nega was floating around for a while. He appeared in Olympic games and Sonic Channel as late as 2016. The series lore got dumped around Forces and IDW.
>>534494442Also she's not merely a "foil" to Sonic. Blaze is the guardian of the Sol Emeralds. Sonic is the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds.
>>534495282The funniest part about this is that there wasnโt even really a distinction in Archieshit. The โOverlandersโ were still considered โMobiansโ.
>>534494431Because while I do admit there may be a bias on my part due to mobians not existing in real life, I don't concede that the people of Sonic's world just don't have terms for these guys.
Besides, how can it be that all the mobians have their own species when it's often so hard to tell between them? How do I know Sonic is a hedgehog and not a cat like many think? How do I know the difference between a hawk, a swallow and an albatroz? Yet, if we compare any of these to humans, the difference is clear.
On top of that, Tailstube literally makes a point in the first episode to differentiate between humans and mobians, they just don't give a name to each people.
>>534494731Really, nigga? You think if mobians existed, people wouldn't differentiate them? They would just use context cues to determine whether they're talking about the sentient ones or not?
Go on, lie to me and say "Yes".
>>534495541Crossworlds is already reintroducing them. All SEGA wants to people to know about them is that they're partners which has been consistent since 06.
>>534495478>Its not canon because...BECAUSEShadow Generations and Silver own existence already disproved your nonsense, now piss off with "MUH CANON" crap.
>>534495631Something something SCANA something something theyโre just people something something indistinguishable from Humans something something just a racial category at best something something Islanders something something yes
>>534495636Then they're dead. More specifically, their potential is dead
>>534495745Eggman Nega is a living contradiction of a character if Rivals is canon.
>>534495541That would only apply in an adaptation, you moron.
>>534495853He already was one since the beginning.
I thought windfag just meant you want Sonic's personality to match the games
>>534495853Not really. He just lied about being from Blaze's dimension which he does because he's a pathological liar.
>>534495853No one cares about Eggman Nega, heโs vaulted
>>534495958If he hates Eggman, why would he work with him twice?
>>534495853Nta but nobody really cares, Eggman nega sucks shit and i'm glad he's dead, but i see him more of an eggman messing things up outside of sonics world.
What does "KWAB" mean? No I'm not a newfag.
>Sonic should be like Goku
>>534495931"The games" includes Lost World which has Sonic doubting himself and getting one-upped by Tails. Windfags don't count that as Windnic.
>>534495853>Rivals cannot be canon because Nega character makes no sense with it>This is the same franchise that introduced Silver the fucking hedgehog having Blaze as his sidekick for no damn reasonAnon, be for real. You are better than this.
>>534496029>My ancestor wasn't THAT much of a buffoon who nuked the Robotnik legacy for generations to come, right? RIGHT?"
The movies already did Eggman Nega's character and they actually made him a good character. There is nothing the movies can't fix from this franchise.
>>534495692what fangame did this? I never heard of it
>>534496116>Asking this questionKWAB
>>534496116Kek What a Bitch
>>534496275If they ever actually put Eggman Nega in the movies, what would they even do with him after making Gerald basically him?
>>534496275>i want to destroy everyone for my family and not to conquerYeah that actually a nega
>>534496164>the one game who's script was western has the only moment that windfags hate from gamenicamazing
>>534496402>Insane troll version of Jim CarreyWhat couldn't they do with him?
>>534496504Because it would just be Gerald again. Unless they make Gerald and Nega the same person.
>>534496402Why would they even both with Eggman Nega after Gerald? It's the same situation as when they fused Tikal and Pachacamac into the same character in the Wade show.
>>534493836I be donโt see whatโs wrong with Silverโs quill design. It has a distinct silhouette, and itโs stylized. Having the forehead quills partially obscuring his eyes to make him look serious/angry is a clever design choice.
>>534496628>It's the same situation as when they fused Tikal and Pachacamac into the same character in the Wade show.Have Tikalfags recovered from this yet?
You guys think Shadow saved eggman in the movies as a nod to eggman saving Shadow in game?
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>>534495692Did this person get laughed at? I am pretty sure you can just say faggot and retard again.
>>534496590It doesn't matter since they don't have the rights to the Rush games anyway
>>534496868His front quills look like they are glued on, they aren't even moving.
>>534496724They gave up hope after seeing that the movies aren't tackling SA1 or if they do, they're going to shit all over the story.
>>534497071Wait then why does SEGA get to use Blaze?
>>534496168God I wish Zavok was standing over me
>>534497178The movies don't have the rights to the Rush games. It's not one of the 10 games they have the rights for.
I only heard about wind stuff from sthg comics. Never saw it in Archie IDW or any of the games I played.
>>534495421Because that's fucking stupid. There are real people in the real world referred to as islanders. What, are all the anthros from fucking Hawaii or New Zealand? Stop being a retarded autist.
I genuinely don't understand why you're so opposed to calling them mobians. Aside from your psychotic grudge against a discontinued comic book.
>>534497178Because Sega has the rights to the Rush games, not Paramount
>>534497353It's in the games. Archie never had it and IDW struggles to channel it.
>>534497363Mobian has no reason to exist in the game universe.
>>534491008Nah, it's random.
You can have a cat daughter and have another kid that's a catgirl daughter.
>>534496275But that's not Eggman Nega. Movie Gerald is based off the scrapped idea from Shadow 05 where Gerald was actually still alive and wanted to use Shadow to destroy humanity. Infact, you can still see this in the final game with the pure dark route where Shadow randomly decides to carry Gerald's wish to destroy the planet.
>>534496161Sonic is already a ripoff of Goku, but Windfags don't want to hear that. And yet Goku is still more of an actual character than the soulless rat.
>>534497363Because โMobiansโ makes no fucking sense if the planet isnโt called โMobiusโ. If the anthros had a name, it would be something else.
>>534497071>If Blaze ever gets in, she's getting fridged for Silver again >Gen Alpha will follow Millenials and Gen Z into being gaslit into being Silvaze shippers Maekawa won. 2 of his ships have been immortalized by Hollywood.
>>534497363Why call them Mobians? If you don't like islanders, they can just come up with a different name.
>>534496735What is this from?
>>534497613Lanolin concept art and Sonia from Sonic Underground.
>>534497567>will follow Millenials and Gen Z into being gaslit into being Silvaze shipperssilvaze is cringe
>t. I don't even care about sonaze
>>534497353That's because it's a forced meme.
>>534497439>It's in the games.Literally ONE line, and it comes from a literal child making shit up on the spot. Fuck off.
>>534497363>mobiansRichmunk...
>>534497353The games are where it's from. Cream mentions it, Elise mentions it, and official Sonic Team blurbs mention it.
>>534497545Yeah. Fowler was probably shown this either during Shadow's game getting developed or later when the movies were being produced and fell in love with the idea of Gerald actually being the bad guy.
>>534497545>Movie Gerald is based off the scrapped idea from Shadow 05 where Gerald was actually still alive and wanted to use Shadow to destroy humanity.What the fuck? That means Rivals Nega could have been recycled Shad05 Gerald this whole time
>Metal was going to be killed off in Shad05 Damn he really fell off hard after Heroes huh?
>>534497725>Literally ONE line, and it comes from a literal child making shit up on the spot. Fuck off.*Knight of the Wind".
>>534497567>2 of his ships have been immortalized by HollywoodWhich ones?
>>534498009Shadria and Silvaze
>>534497718>>t. I donโt even care about sonazeThis is a lie.
>>534497521There's also no reason for a planet that is allegedly Earth to have naturally occurring loop de loops.
>>534497558>>534497590Mobius strip. For all /sthg/'s wanking over themes, you lot fucking suck at actually recognizing themes.
I know a lot of sthg doesn't play the games but Elise was being literal when she said she could feel Sonic in the wind and that he wasn't dead. He didn't die, his soul became one with the wind. You can't kill Sonic because he is literally the wind.
>>534498181>Mobius strip.That's a pretty piss-poor reason. Sounds like you just want your Archie garbage in the games than actually caring about what Sonic anthros are called. Just give it a rest.
>>534498182>Actual cultist ramblings
>>534497353It's some nonsense said in Sonic Rush and 06 about Sonic, then its practically his personality in Black knight.
But the faggots here have turned it into a mockery of some otherwordly superman that no one at Sonic Team has ever written.
>>534498181>Actual straw-grasping cope
>>534497545Nice headcanon, maggot. But the truth is that is just a coincidence.
They were going to write Gerald being dead as in the games then changed their minds.
>>534498118>Shadaria>Literally the same sibling crap from the gamesKrack, you are a moron.
>>534492461Kill yourself faggot
>>534497083Well yeah they're quills
>>534492461Are agreeing here or disagreeing?
>>534492461I mean I do want to ask, if Sonic thinks irredeemable evil exists, and must be fought against, and that only he can do it, why doesnโt he just kill Eggman?
>>534497363>There are real people in the real world referred to as islanders. What, are all the anthros from fucking Hawaii or New Zealand? Stop being a retarded autist.That's pretty much what I was implying, yes. They seem to be from places like South Island, Angel Island and the Northstar Islands originally and then the etymology could have stuck.
>I genuinely don't understand why you're so opposed to calling them mobians. Aside from your psychotic grudge against a discontinued comic book.I'm not opposed to people calling them either term, I just don't have a problem with the "Islander" fan-term and think it works fine? Not sure why you think I've got some "psychotic" grudge against Archie, was just pointing out how there's another word we can use which doesn't necessarily have to piss off windfags. I don't really care if people say anthros, mobians or islanders, but if the last one can get people to argue a little less here then yes I'll bring it up.