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niller Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-july-1/2097329

MoP:
nillerIntro
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic
nillerAddons
https://overgear.com/guides/mists-of-pandaria-classic/top-addons-for-mop/
Class niller List
https://www.zockify.com/mop/tier-list/
MoP Leveling niller Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKTmp_gs1A&t=2s
Legendary niller Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeQJ269-J5c
niller Profession Guide
https://www.wow-professions.com/mop

niller:
niller guide
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/fresh-servers-roadmap-phases
niller Addons
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/the-best-addons-for-wow-classic-fresh-351334
DPS niller list
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/guide/dps-rankings-tier-list-pve-burning-crusade-classic-wow
An Qiraji niller and Overview
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/temple-ahnqiraj-aq40-overview-classic-wow
The Burning niller Prep Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGBABkKu0U

disney mechanics ruined wow

'niller cryboomer wellness check

MOP
>157,118
fresh
>84005

nillers? explain?

>>534448631
uuuhmmm, alts! uuhhmm uhmm... billions are leveling!

>>534448631
lower numbers are now a good thing again

>>534448631
EVERYONES STILL LEVELING
ITS ABOUT THE JOURNEY NOT THE DESTINATION!!!

I'm bored of mop already

>>534447861
polish spammer/failed male/samefag one note ESL spammie tells (Also applies to /wowg/ now):

>"Alex"
>dance
>bark
>"on strings"/"puppet
>"insta reply insta seethe"
>has a semantic field of around 100 words
>cant string a coherent sentence together unless it involves a lolcow/streamer/random namefag, or the same canned gibberish he spams
>posts about "Alex" that get 10 (You)s on reply cooldown
>"pumps" "pvmp" "we are in here [twitch link]"
>AI slop night elves (OPs and random jpgs) all slide posts
>feverishly (You's) any game discussion to tell you [expansion is bad] (will pivot in any direction to FUD, just wants people to not play anything)
>permanent thread uptime
>tranime pedophile
>endlessly talks about retail more than classic wow
>[x lost/won] (useless slidepost to keep this dead shit off page 10)
>will immediately defend himself when called out and is incapable of ignoring you
>will try to gaslight/obfuscate (what how he recoils! I've been found out!)
>samefag accusations anytime two or more disagree with him

>>534420034
(1) used to think who the fuck watches this nigga if he brings the same joke everyday. then I realized he's a 40 year old boomzoom that streams like 8 hours a day, constantly switches between like 5 wow clients, and not a single moment is low energy. he barely takes time off as well despite having plenty of money. and I know he doesn't take any drugs, just a little coffee at the start of the stream. I couldn't do it. you couldn't do it. and he's consistently been doing this since nostalrius. This is some serious fucking dedication that makes even the biggest american blue collar "if u work less than 80h a week don't speak to me" chud kneel out of respect. but the reality is, no sane person could do what payo does. [adjusts psychology armchair] the real reason why payo can do what he does, and why I'm able to analyze it so easily, is because he is me. I am him. A guy with ADHD (low dopamine) who got in contact with World of Warcraft during his development years (in other words, as a kid/teen). Being a kid with ADHD makes your dopaminergic receptors very sensible, as you are constantly starved of dopamine at baseline. thus these kids often show hyperactivity symptoms and sometimes excell at sports, because while the total amount of dopamine in the synaptic cleft during physical activity might be comparable to what neurotypical people have, the percentual increase is much higher in people with ADHD, as their baseline is much lower. We are talking about a 200%-500% increased sudden spike of dopaminergic activity of what a neurotypical individual would experience. This is fine and all, because it doesn't really elevate dopamine in the cleft above what "normal" people have, which could be neurotoxic. Now enter World of Warcraft, or Worlo as we like to call it. The game is a digital manifestation of what a male individual in his development years seeks. The fantasy adventure.

>>534450129
(2) For kids with ADHD and autism spectrum disorder (which is somewhat common) that show interest in video games before playing World of Warcraft, there's an additional appeal of the game. Compared to the visual input from the real world, the simple 3D computer graphics and textures are less overwhelming for autistic individuals. For example, no face expressions and gestures that need to be processed and interpreted, which is something a good portion of people on the spectrum struggle with. All these factors combined, including the ones I haven't elaborated on due time reasons and complexity, such as the addicting and time intensive nature of the game, result in the following: Prolonged dopaminergic overstimulation and selective rewiring of the reward system. Although the increased dopamine release can be just as potent as with meth or cocaine in small doses, it is not directly comparable with drug use and drug induced neuronal changes. The naturally increased dopaminergic activity caused by playing the game has a multitude of effects the drugs don't have, while simultaneously not having certain (side)effects the drugs do have. This is a very vague description of the circumstances, but basically it comes down to natural overstimulation having broader, longer or even permanent lasting effects, while causing less of the health deteroriating effects prolonged drug use may have.

Well that's 3 posts down the drain because no one is reading any of that useless shit

>>534449370
what happened sis?

>>534450360
(3) Effectively, susceptible individuals can have their entire reward system altered, to a point where they are fully wired to a certain aspect of the game, instead of the real world. Because WoW is and MMORPG, it offers a much larger and diverse amount of appealing elements, compared to other multiplayer games such as FPS and MOBA. Thus there are also a lot more entrypoints to start the modulation of the reward system, resulting in a stronger, broader and more dense change overall. And because of the games design, game elements disliked by the player can almost always be disabled or avoided. This results in the elimination of any counterpart to these entrypoints, which normally would have an inhibiting effect on dopamine release and blunt the rewiring process. An example would be someone who likes the social aspect of the game, but heavily dislikes PvP. Even on a PvP server, the player can virtually avoid PvP and keep participating in social activities with basically no impendiment.

moppy sloppy aint no toppy

MoP is only fun during ToT and when Timeless Isle is out. So 5.2 and 5.4. Outside of that, the content is absolute garbage.

>>534450685
(4) Likewise, someone only interest in PvP can ignore other aspects of the game that do not interest him. After reading that last sentence, you may experience a strong emotional response caused by the factually wrong statement. After all we all know how PvPers also need to level up and obtain BiS gear/weapons from raids, despite most of them disliking PvE content. But all of us also know, that despite this, PvPers still play. So why is that? Quitting because of mandatory PvE or leveling is unheard of. Instead, it's a by all means necessary situation where people pay for leveling boosts, gear in gdkps, or even settle for low level twinks if they are unwilling or unable to do the former. This shows that one aspect of the game alone can have such a strong appeal that the player is willing and able to ignore or endure multiple inconveniences. And any dampening effects the inconveniences may have had on dopamine release and its mechanisms is instantly reversed once they obtain the sought item or level, which is basically guaranteed and mostly just a question of time.

Considering all of this and many more observations that cannot be covered here due time restrictions, it's safe to assume that World of Warcraft in it's prime had effects to various degrees on the reward system of predispositioned individuals aged 5 - 28 with anomalous dopaminergic activity. The are too many induvidual variables to estimate the severity and persistence of the effects. Same goes for the reversal or correction of the reward system. For some people it happens seemingly randomly with no clear internal or external trigger, while others fail despite year long behavioral training and abstinence from the game. And a few people manage to live with it, even turning it into a career.

>>534450794
>2 MORE PHASES! TRUST THE PLAN!

>>534448631
>muh raiding
nobody cares about speedrunning pve
157k is still an abyssmal number.

>>534451493

nillers getting uppity yet again

>>534451830
It's true though, talk to anyone at all about your wow classic raid parses, see how much they care. It's a miniscule game compared to anything else.

epoch was up

for 15 minutes kek

got my ancient fishing charm

>tranime pedo
skippy the post

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/filename/1754045473140224/image/Uk54V3hQmTUHHjdDPjMpmw/
lil pedo why are you larping as a moppy player when you're clearly an epocuck

>unc can only play 1 version of wowie

>>534454579
blown the FUCK OUT

Sending image links on an image board

No no, we aint clicking that shit my weird incel nigger, no no

>>534448631
niller gonna cryboom

>gamers

>>534452646
So now low uptime is bad huh

>>534448631
nillers deserve to be bullied after they bullied everyone out of these threads for talking about other versions of classic. now the thread is dead but its somehow everyone elses fault but theirs

>>534448631
Both are dead and shit but I just checked some mop gdkp discord and average mazed paypig has like 5-10 alts. No way average anniversary player has something like this. Mop numbers are actually disaster and it's gonna be cata 2.0 or even worse very soon.

>>534466506
oh NOW anniversary is dead but as long as everything else is dead too
How convenient for the narrative

wtf happened

>>534470010
Vengeance being a retarded mechanic and the WCL trannies making the boss robes so that doing mechanics correctly lowers your parse.

>>534470786
>Elegon
>To get the fight right, you have to ignore the boss and kill the sparks
>"ermmm, those don't count, sorry! if you want your pinky number, you have to ignore the mechanics while everyone else do them for you!"

>>534471219
I fucking hate the people who run WCL

>no, doing aoe damage is padding only boss damage matters
>what do you mean killing the adds is the mechanic? Doesn't matter, if you're doing AoE we won't give you your pink number, that's someone else's problem.

If they had said that world buffs invalidated your parse in vanilla, we would've been better off.

We need a realm that only allows new players

>>534471219
>>534471680
>this world buff from dire maul and felwood? a ok
>this world buff from Silithus? NOO, NO NO NO AAAIEEEEE REEEEEE
>this obscure 15 minute buff from a once per character quest completition in Swamp of Sorrows that gives you 400 ap? go ahead! get your 100!

>tfw no friend on mankrik NA to do old raid cheevos with

>>534471680
Trouble in parsie land?

I am levelling a druid on alliance, how can I justify having eng on it?

>>534476457
like lore-wise or gameplay-wise?

>>534477836
Lore wise

>>534477836
Your Druid trained near Ironforge or Gnomeregan, learning to blend nature and machinery out of curiosity or necessity.
>Even the wilds must adapt, ive learned their machines, so nature may survive them.

>>534479508
>>534478390
My b

>thread is dead
>during primetime on a saturday

>1fmd5

>15 seconds indirect seethe
holy moly

Good afternoon failed male

>nothing to do in pvp after playing bgs/arenafor 2 >nothing to do when valor capped
>takes 30 hours to 85-90 if you want an alt

yeah no. guess im done with this game

What a shitty fight on heroic.

>>534479508
Could work, especially if I weave in some stuff about winter and ice.

>heroic Starshstter got DE'd because retri was too retarded to check that his bags aren't full

>making 3k a day by just selling rich purple shirts

Pedo tranny anime posting

Digusting

unc is crashing out

>>534480258
>saturday
it's Friday

pffft id rather watch my oshi play poker than play this nigger game

>>534484408
#factos

>>534484408
I'm playing Horse game, and then I will play WoW Classic: Mists of Pandaria.

>>534484017

Alexensual won...

he fucking won...

>>534486807
>2 days since his last video
>All videos with less than 1k views each
It's nyover ... another channel wipe incoming

>rogue opens on me
>immediately pet sac
>still get to 40% hp by the end of stun lock

lol

One pedo anime poster is samefagging this whole thread, talking with himself

what is blud yapping about

>>534487286
The crowd tried to kill Galileo but he was right. No matter how many viewers Alex gets, he will always be right.

It's insane how much the pala cm set mogs the rest

how much % dmg increase is conquest 2h weapon for a melee? like 10%?

>>534487812
Wasnt the druid one good. I honestly don't notice anything in classic. Not even scarab lord phases me.

>>534484017
Its saturday in india
that should tell you A LOT

>>534487553
>33 second insta indirect seethe reply
you struck a nerve lol

>>534487812
DK is good.

Almost wiped our raid on Emps because I was warlock tanking with salv on and didn't notice it

It's Over

>>534491921
UHHHH OHHHHHHHHHHH

>>534491921
Meanwhile, on Pochie

>>534492196
>only 2k allowed to play worldwide
oh no no no no...

>>534493870
This has been debunked tho

P.V.M.P

>AI jeet is here
Gross

Crazy how you feel the need to shill epoop on a page 7-9 thread

>>534494749
>2 insta seethe indirects
volumenes

Why are blizzshills literally always angry

Hey guys, I recently found a pair of these. I put them on the AH for EU price. Will someone actually buy them? It's so much fucking money

>>534497856

1 Vanilla player can easily beat up 10 MoP players.
1 MoP player can easily beat up 10 SoD players.
1 SoD player can easily beat up 10 Retail players.

>>534498116
wut

>>534498320

>>534498387
I am noob wut do u mean?

>>534497856
That's crazy why are they so much

>>534498756

>>534498816
i don't flipping know. I just google transmogs whenever I pick them up and put them on the market.

>>534490451
thread so dead even janny don't care

>>534490451
>bush
Okay, I'm listening

Can Titanforged servers save Classic?

>>534499709
SoD ending and Epoch blowing up is proof people want more classic+ tier content. If blizzard isn't retarded they will announce a new season this gamescom with titanforged servers.

>>534499709
Why is this Japanese lady making the Nazi sign?!

>>534500140
SoD was dead though

>>534500334
was the most popular version of wow for like a month after it launched

>>534500415

imagine being mogged by the "worst expansion of all time". the absolute STATE of mop sissies

pandas are cool

>>534500809
how was MoP mogged by Shadowlands?

when did blizzard start hating horde?
I think it started in shadowlands

>>534501478
wrath was pure alliance wank tho

So a big part of why MoP is considered better than Cata is the new continent right? Because reputation/failies are much worse and Gameplay is the same. It just is more effort put into it, but the general mechanics of progression is worse.

>>534502440
>Gameplay is the same
It's worse

>>534501559
it didn't really go out of its way to shit on the horde though, they just weren't in the spotlight. and there was plenty of horde wank in subsequent expansions.

Funny how everyone said that mop pvp was the best ever and yet you go to the forums or reddit and you find nothing but threads shitting on pvp and saying how it's nigger aids lol

>>534502710
Who'se everyone? Some shitskin on youtube?

>>534502440
yeah, it's a big part of it. Pandaria feels way more cohesive than Cata zones did, it's nice. it also has better raids, for the most part (first tier of Cata was better than MoP first tier, but latter two tiers of MoP are much better than Cata's). classes are a bit more refined versions of Cata classes also.
the reputation grind is kind of sucky, but also it's really not that important, and don't let anybody fool you into thinking it is.
>>534502710
cause it's fucked from being on last patch balance, it's not how people remember it

>>534502710
I think it was overhyped for sure, but they also did a bunch of #changes

>>534502956
technically I think he's ethnically Sami

>>534502710
MoP PVP is similar to Cata PvP, but crazier. I enjoy it. Nobody else does though lmao

>>534503045
Whomstve

>>534503212
What do you play

>>534470786
back in my day in real mop everything you did damage to counted for the parse, so getting a 100 was as simple as pulling shaman trash that healed itself into the fight and never touching the boss. trannies truly do ruin everything they touch.

So maxing Mining gave me like 10 k Health. Kinda worth imo.

>>534503385
Frozen Arthas guy

>pserfs lost AGAIN

God dammit blizzard can't possibly drop the ball at gamescom now

SoD2 when? Classic + when?

>>534503728
>SoD2 when?
Never
>Classic + when?
2022,2023,2024,2025

>>534502710
DOOOOOD REMEMBER WHEN THAT ACCOUNT SHARING JEW PLAYED PVP IN MOP DOOD???? WAS SO EPIC!!! LET'S F*CKING GO IT'S GONNA BE KINO AGAIN!!
>the same account sharing, win trading losers are also ruining pvp in classic
AHAHAHAHAHHA FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD

>>534503987
It's weird because I quit WoW right before Reckful became famous and returned right in time for his an hero. All these people were b'awwwing over it and I felt nothing.

You guys make fun of MoP and Cata, especially the latter, but they were the peak of the game including later WOTLK. Don't make me elaborate pls

eek-flop status?

>>534504967
didn't think they could drop below retoilet level, but they cant even play, so here we are.

only asmongold can save mop

>>534504381
iNcontroL was more tragic

>>534504967
15 minutes of uptime in the last 2 weeks

>>534502710
oh so now what reddit says is valid

>>534505896
He's probably mentioning it because it struck him that even the world's biggest blizz ballwashers hate it

https://monstersandmemories.com

word is we're migrating here next?

>>534506279
is this 'vun approved?

>>534506742

>>534506279
>not monsterswithmammaries.com
Ehhh

>aijeet is back from epoch
stay there pls thx

>payed $20 to transfer to a locked server to get the world mounties and the mop toys

>>534509465
you just know he was staying up late waiting for those thread to hit bump limit just so he could make the OP his ugly AI slop each time

>>534501317
Hey, Shadowlands first patch with Revendreth focus and Sire Denathrius alongside Garrosh was pretty good.
It was a really dogshit expansion overall though.

>>534506279
w-what's this suppose to be?

what server should i roll on for ally

>>534506279
>Servers that go live as part of Early Access will not be reset or wiped. It is important to note that Early Access will not be a head start period
Feels like it was written by current mop team, pure schizo shit

>>534506279
This is a blatant EQ ripoff.

What's the status of night slayer on classic anniversary?

Quit in April. Thoroughly enjoyed playing but never found my true group- seemed like everyone was botting the whole time. Reached a good rank in pvp and was pissed Arathi wasn't released. Should I resub? Is it still lively?

>>534508375
SNIFFF

>>534487286
Bro's just killing time til Ambershire. This channel is a passion project in the meantime. Epoch lost btw.

>>534487286
hes already talking about wow on his main channel

>>534521024
why wouldn't he be? he was pre-hyping epoch for like 2 years and somehow managed to realize it was going to be a steaming pile of dogshit and brilliantly avoided it after being literally the only streamer of any kind to even mention it for years.

he's gotta be feeling a tiny bit vindicated right now for not falling into the epoch trap.

>>534519178
sort of like...World of Warcraft?

>>534506279
>everquest but worse
quite impressive when its not 25 years old

Why do all these dumb fuck videos recommend Glyph of Eternal Resolve when it literally doesn't work in a pve context
I equipped the glyph and the active still works - it's either bugged or it doesn't even work

Moppy got me enjoying anal again

Good morning saar
thank you for volunteering to work on saturday

toilet game, they said was good but now we feel the pain

thank you for the needful sir

what compels a niller to cryboom?

Go to sleep pedo troon

>>534519342
It is anni-lively.

>>534535718
If you like Annie Mae, you're sure to love Annie Versaren

>Classic TBC on my mind
>Alliance
>Druid Tank

Should I go PVE or PVP realm?

>>534497856
Get an ad blocker jeet

>>534537568
Idk, do you like getting your anus gaped while your arms and legs are tied? If yes then the choice is obvious

>>534502996
Being on last patch isn't an excuse since every other classic version was the same. It's just mop retards being delusional

MOP SISSIES

OH NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mopjeet melty inc "low population is actually good" looooooool

indian street shitters dont play this game
you need to come up with some other type of insult that at least makes sense

>takes offense by it
thanks for confirming lol

>>534538927
MoP had notoriously inflated scaling over its patches compared to other expacs though. it's the whole reason there was a stat squish in WoD, go look at SoO gear compared to the first tier.

>>534540404
You think they are giving a minute of their time to think about optimal moppy changes?

Get a load of this guy

>>534502996
>classes are a bit more refined versions of Cata classes also
Deluded faggot
Blizzard literally removed half of abilities because mop classes were so bloated
Some, like restro shamans(let's not even start with totems getting worse with air ones almost non existent now) can even fill their entire hot bars with not so useless skills
NEw talents suck compared to cata trees(best trees in history of wow) and wod(refined new talent system and made it actually feel unique instead of all specializations sharing same talents like in mop)
>but also it's really not that important, and don't let anybody fool you into thinking it is.
You literally can't get valor gear without it, you dumb nigger
>first tier of Cata was better than MoP first tier, but latter two tiers of MoP are much better than Cata's
Throne of thunder was only little bit better than firelands

>>534539683
It's a glowop to deflect from the people running the H1B programs. Happens every time.

Saars only the brahmin playing mop, do not fall for the shitposting by dalits and pakis

Cant believe im reading a detailed debate between mop and cata

The game fell off the rails at wotlk, you do know that right?

Will mop pvp actually get better? It's almost unplayable

lol lmao

>>534540920
>best trees in history of wow
Certainly not in a lot specs' cases. Are you a monoclasser? WotLK had more freedom of choice, too

>>534540608
no? where did I say that? my whole point is pvp is fucked exactly because they didn't think.about it
>>534540920
>You literally can't get valor gear without it, you dumb nigger
sure but you can spend all the valor you can get right now just by being honored with a couple factions, which you can achieve just by doing regular quests. going past honored isn't necessary for 90% of people. especially with celestial dungeons giving an alternative route for gearing.
>Throne of thunder was only little bit better than firelands
firelands was extremely overrated and classic proved that

>>534541846
No way to know, but if SoD decisions were anything to go by...

>>534541846
dmg will get higher with every patch making the 60% baseline resilience feel a bit less ass
but all in all no its gonna stay like this
you will have to put the healer in 30s+ cc chain or nothing dies before high dampening
and bgs will just stay unplayable for the rest of the classic timeline

>>534542043
>WotLK had more freedom of choice, too
Even in actual wotlk it was
>follow single build or get kicked from raid, no deviation allowed
And nothing changed in classic

>>534542878
>sure but you can spend all the valor you can get right now just by being honored with a couple factions
Most of actually useful gear requires revered
Lotus even honored farm is pure cancer
Also, profession recipients are still locked behind revered

>Farm my goy curreny in heroics
>Still need rep anyway and no tabards this time
Fuck you blizzard

>>534543549
>in actual wotlk
Never happened

>>534544584
Won't Celestials make it instantly obsolete?
>just add m+ to old wow what could go wrong

>>534543976
you don't need that gear to raid. get honored with klaxxi and shado pan through questing and you will have more than enough gear to go into MSV. and anything you get with valor you're just gonna replace it with raid gear pretty quickly anyway, or could easily sub with celestial gear. it's nice for minmaxing if you're pushing heroics with a big parse group, but it's far from necessary.
crafting recipes are the one thing that you really do have to grind for, and even then, only if you have one of those profs.

>Dancing Steel is 15000g
fuck I just got the epic fist wep from shado pan and want to deck it out, but that's steep. I can afford it but it's hard to pull the trigger.

>future brings Classic WoD
MoP is probably going to fall off a cliff. Should have given us that classic content that China is getting soon, instead.

>>534543976
>Lotus even honored farm is pure cancer
it takes literally like 4 or 5 days of dailies that take 10 mins to do, it's not that bad

>>534549331
>it takes literally like 4 or 5 days of dailies
That's a lie
For all dailies per day you get less than 1k of reputation
You need 9k
So, if you ignore retarded second half of dailies that don't give plack prince reputation for killing mobs, it's closer to half of month

what the heck bros you told me mop was gonna be bussin but it sucks total ass

somebody told me dks hard counter warrior/resto druid in 2s. Is this true? I will literally roll a dk if it is. I know they are supposed to be shitty this expac

>>534448631
is that currently or at their peak? fresh vanilla still having half the players of MoP is fucking hilarious, it shouldn't really be a brag

>>534548589
If Celestials are next week like someone said it will drop a lot. There's just a shortage of crystals and it takes 12 or something

I'm starting to think trying to relive cherished memories through video games wasn't such a good idea

>>534550350
for honored? bullshit, because I hit revered yesterday and it's only been half a month.

>>534551685
Lil bro what have you been doing? Most people hit exalted yesterday ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1ml94d7/yikes_mop_has_lowest_figures_for_first_week_of/

>>534552292
>All that cope
Just admit it's a shit expansion and you got tricked by streamers again

>>534551809
good for them.

Never forget what they took from you

>>534552292
>>534552573
and yet it still has more people than any form of 'Niller
and anniversary 'niller servers have become TBC waiting rooms
kek

>>534555389
Pvmping

>>534555389
>>534555637
raping Vanessa after kicking her ass at the end of Deadmines...

>>534555637
>>534555774
Vanessa unites Classic and Retail
>>534555725
>>534555851
>>534555862

I wish human women were real

3 filtered posts

>>534546832
Pretty much. Only the profession stuff is needed and even those will fall down in prices soon.

>>534556045
>that orc post
that fucking orc'd faggot is STILL posting?

>>534552573
I'm enjoying MOP, but you're right TBC is probably going to kill it.

>>534557471
Should've been a freshie

>>534557542
Anniversary server sucks ass
>Leveling experience was trash because everyone just spammed dungeons and power grinded to 60
>Dumb new pvp system with welfare epic gear and nobody even plays WSG or AB
>Community is way too sweaty with all of these 20 warrior raids
>If you join a pug then everything good is HR'd

I've played vanilla a few times and this server Nightslayer is the worst and sweatiest version of it, I'll try it again when TBC is out.

>mop is clearly a flop but still has double the raiding pop than anni

>>534558832
>OH POGGERS LETS GO SPEND 1000G ON CONSUMABLES PER WEEK SO WE CAN DO 20+ YEAR OLD RAIDS ABOUT 10 SECONDS QUICKER!
>SORRY, ALL ITEMS RESERVED FOR WARRIOR KINGS! SORRY, RAID IS ALSO ABOUT 75-80% WARRIORS!

>>534558691
None of that is true for 99% of anni, except the pvp part.

Touch grass

>>534558691
Yeah it should've just been a tbc fresh probably, it's how people treat it anyway

>>534558832
Casuals dont raid in vanilla, especially not raids past zg

>>534558832
>bad expac beats out even worse version
No shit? Nobody wants to play shitnilla

>>534560180
Mindbroken

>>534558832
>mop is clearly a flop because...because.....because it just is ok??!!!

>>534559493
Yuuup, all about the 20-mans. And of course 5-mans

>>534560941
>50k fewer raiders than the worst expansion ever is not a flop because .... because it just isnt OK???!

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

MOP SISSIES! AHAH AHAHAHAHA

Stop laughing she's already dead

>>534562193
>worst expansion ever
tbc?

mop sissie wellness check

>>534562193
>the same number of 1st week raiders as TBC is a flop...because it just is ok????
Cata was riding off Wrath's coattails and had a massive dropoff from its early numbers. the real test will be retention 2-3 months from now, people are just jumping to conclusions because they want it to fail.

>>534565508
It is failing because of a combination of reasons:
a) it is not that good to-begin-with, and it had a messy launch.
b) it hadnt received any changes/tuning
c) because enough people want it to fail

>mop sissies will be force transfered to retail since mop is such a flop
truly a fate worse than death

>retoilets getting merged into bigger retoilet
They'll enjoy it if anything

*coughs bloods* ... throne of thunder ... will save us ....

>>534566403
>b) it hadnt received any changes/tuning
They've been changing it constantly since beta, fym
>c) because enough people want it to fail
Shitposters aren't doing anything, we're literally playing it too. You hugboxers are so damn insane. I bet you'd deplatform anyone critical of it if you could.

i still have no idea what being retail means

>>534566419
I'm gonna be flexing on retail sissies with all my unobtaniums. It's gonna be beautiful.

>>534568807
all 10 of them will be mad as heck

Thoughts?

>>534569502

>>534569502
mop makes me sleepy

>>534569742
You didn't enjoy 20 dailies each day and emotional feefee boss raiding?!? Also dogshit pvp for brownies

>>534567852
>people having shitfits because of base resiliance
>they tuned everything perfectly!

I aint even shitposting (half of the time)

our sincere opinion?

>you won an item with a bonus roll? lolol too bad you will pay anyway

owari da....

>>534572509
Mental illness

Doesn't matter, epoch lost

has the mind of a cryniller ever been explained?

>>534574786
It's called MENSA

>>534568968
R*tail currently has more players than all versions of classic combined. But let's not let reality get in the way.

>>534572509
do gdkp niggasl really?

>>534572509
Lmao do cucks really? These same niggas probably pay for console online services that use their own internet connection already

Left is vid, right is in gaem. Feels good man.

>>534575474
whats that

>>534576209
link video

>>534576315
https://youtu.be/-XwbG31YBfk?si=BUiXsRhno0Roufw_

>>534576209
the other day I just leveled herbalism 1-300 listening to one of the Mistborn Graphic Audiobooks, it was pretty comfy.

>>534575690
Wait... the all inclusive version that markets to children with its lore is the most popular version! Holy shit batman

Enjoy your dei slop

>lil bro replying to his own post
grim

nice, he's clearly spiraling.
He's going to relapse into playing (and streaming) 'nilla in a few weeks
we're getting close to more Alex kino
we might get a rare manic episode where his both addicted to 'nilla and raging about foids, we might get some tbc private server era incel rants

>>534580976
>has quit and relapsed at least 8 times since 2019
>this time will be different

>>534580976
>light mode
youre more unhinged than alex

god damn, the shado pan dailies today are such a shitshow

Holy niller meltie today

>>534571018
I love how this almost perfectly tracks the original vanilla-mop populations in 2004-2013

>>534582519
You dont have to invent stuff up

>predicted epoch's downfall
>predicted mop flopping

>but cant predict his yt ventures flopping

>51 seconds indirect seethe
holy

>>534584364
i mean theyre right. just shows you that alex is only "broken clock" levels of right when it comes to anything

>>534449454
>>"Alex"
>>posts about "Alex" that get 10 (You)s on reply cooldown

go back to epoch, slopajeet

>>534585459
>pov: you're green

>>534585648
Orc rogue snuck in to the civilized world?

I see a tranny anime faggot post i hide it, simple as

>>534586687

>>534449454
>>AI slop night elves (OPs and random jpgs) all slide posts

>>534585459
Void elves and dalaran elves betrayed such beautiful city

>>534586687

i love single button assistant so much bros

>>534584131
AWR

>>534555774
>Use pic related
>Find a nice quiet spot in my garrison
Oh yeah....

>>534572509
>Come with full bags
>Coin loot gets sent to mailbox
Lol, lmao even.

>>534594417
>BEFORE YOU RAID WITH US, I'LL TRADE YOU 2 RANDOM ITEMS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE INVENTORY SPACE, AFTER THAT YOU'LL TRADE THE ITEMS BACK TO ME TO MAKE SURE YOUR INVENTORY ISN'T FULL SO THAT WE CAN SEE IF YOU WON A BONUS ROLL ITEM

>>534595395
>Drops mailbox in the corner
>Picks up two random items
Your move.

>>534595637
You think they won't notice or make a WA to traack that? You've never been with a gdkp raider in your life have you

>>534572509
This is what happens when you pander to vanilla/wotlk fags

>>534596227
No they won't go that far, they'll just use a spreadsheet to keep track of what loot people have and what they're using next week.