Thread 534490771

Can't someone else bake it edition
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>>534490771 (OP)
Have I seen this structure in the background of a latex fetish video

pyserb may be up in about 15 hours if i don't die of alcolhol poisioning before then

>>534491864
slovakia

Total Star Envelopment

/egg/ puzzle games (e.g. zachtronics) but you can only use free/local LLM to solve the puzzles.

>>534492714
Pick your poison
>somewhere a horn goes off in the distance
>knuckles whiten as the ball is in my court

Trips are injured in an industrial accident at the factory.
Only quads can perform the safety inspection in time and avoid all disasters.

>>534492161
whatcha drinkin

With 100x science cost it has been a long journey, but my deliverance is now close at hand. And not a moment too soon either, since biter evolution is not far off from the first behemoths.

>>534490771 (OP)
Is that an egg factory?

more gas

>>534497652
>slopposting

>>534492161
Awesome. I may hop on tomorrow late EST, though I don't know if I'll end up staying on for too long.

>>534462150
Yeah I don't wanna hook up trains until I'm sure sure this is all a good idea. It's 60 trucks just to mine the asteroids into 6 lanes, then 20+ trucks to dump in the organized piles, then I will need more trucks to pick them up again to put into trains. Don't want to commit to an inefficient arrangement

I don't get how agent orange was allowed to be developed and then used on civilians with zero repercussions for the government

I don't get how they keep delivering me agent lemon lime.

>>534499338
>look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

>>534499338
Is it for diesel for trucks? I tried that in update 1 or 2 and thought it was inefficient, though neat that it's possible.

>>534505392
Nah, I'm significantly overproducing food, so I'm just shoving the excess into digesters to power desalinators and to supplement diesel production.

Is Oxygen Not Included a Yootlike?

>>534506745
Awful twitter artstyle, it's almost as bad as Nidhogg 2

I forgot how slow the start of DSP is.

>>534507554
>Awful twitter artstyle
It just got worse.

>>534514427
It got less ugly but more annoying

>>534514427
ONI is so fucking bloated. An end-game colony in the base-game is bloated, but then you just pile more features into it.

>about to start studying mystery engineering in uni
I guess this is going to be my home for the next 4-5 years...

>>534516480
>mystery engineering
What in the holy wokies is that

>>534516989
>MYSTERY ENGINEARGGAS

What's a good way to let the ocean reclaim this spot of land? The second a vehicle gets its toes wet it complains and escapes. I don't care if I have to cheat.

>>534516989
Yeah, I hope I've learned what they do by the time I graduate

>>534517925
if you dump a line of soil to enclose an area of water, can you then remove the water or how's it work?

>>534516480
>mystery engineering
Is it mechatronics or fishing

>>534519774
I didn't apply in time, so I'm getting a random leftover spot (I don't want to wait a whole year idle). Either electrical and energy engineering, automation and computer science, or data architect, not that I even know what they do

>>534518209
Probably, but after a few attempts to do it properly I just went fuck it and downloaded the cheat mod to allow me to dig instantly. I've already "beaten" this save, I don't really care.

>>534519774
NTA, but no schools near me offer mechatronics. The closest I thing I'm thinking I could make is doing my undergrad in EE and then trying to do a ME masters. If I decide not to do the masters or can't hack it at least I'll still have a EE degree to fall back on.

Some guy tried convincing me to play PY after telling me he played it everyday the past 2 years and is just about done with yellow science...

Not sure if it's dedication or insanity. I would rather play SE again with 5x costs

>>534514427
>>534507554
ONI style is annoying but it can not compare to the hideousness that is nidhogg 2, come on now anon

>>534522884
pray for EE anon. compsci and datashit are soulsucking affairs.

>>534532556
I don't even see the art style anymore, just CSB videos.

>>534532556
i refuse to believe that the fever dream that is nidhog2's artstyle is anything but an intentional fuck you to the world.
i dont know if someone complained about the pixel art, then fucked the devs mums or soemthing, but i feel like the art MUST have been made from hate, you cant make a game as good as nidhog one by accident, and you cant make a game as ugly as nidhog2 without malice.

PY bros... were so back
>>534492161

>>534533105
Coomer's razor: if you're being presented with something that appears to be absolutely revolting, it's somebody's kink

Let's break down https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Rocs-Hardcore-Demolishers
>A special new technology is required to drop cargo (excluding construction bots) on Vulcanus.
"Because." Also note the "excluding construction bots" there. You can unga bunga but lord forbid you can't drop bots because your sissy hands are too busy jerking yourself off to the thought of making spage HARDCORE.
>The territory of each demolisher is smaller (meaning more demolishers.)
Oh joy, more lagballs that I am required dispose of with literally just turrets and red ammo made from the inexhaustible source of iron and copper.
>Demolishers move faster when disturbed (50%)
Oh so they'll get into my turret ball faster. How terrible.
>Foundry recipes beyond liquids and plate crafting are locked behind a new technology, 'Advanced casting'. As with other Hardcore planets, this incentivizes a small science build prior to launching a rocket.
Because that doesn't sound annoying and useless at all.
>The temperature of steam produced by acid neutralisation is reduced to 165 degrees (matching the temperature of steam produced by boilers)
I sure love shooting myself in the fucking dick and getting a 10th of the power from the same amount of steam for no reason other than the dev thinking that was overpowered, and only using the acid neutralization recipe to make steam to condense it into water by shipping cells from nauvis every few trips just because, giving me absolutely no fucking margin or gain other than HARDCOURRRR my anus.

Seriously, thesixthroc needs to be shot in the dick, then be told to write an essay about how life while being shot in the dick is so much better than walking around with an unpierced scrotum. All these "hard" planet mods are the epitome of retardation, and I do enjoy challenges. I can't believe this is the retard that published Cerys.

>>534535227
Good read. Do a random chinese mod next.

>you can make a hole in a platform with landmines by letting a egg hatch
get fucking earndel

>>534535780
>BEAUTIFUL ASSEMBLER WOMEN CAREFULLY CRAFTED FOR BEST ENJOYMENT
I'm good, I was just checking the modportal and noticed he updated hard fulgora/vulcanus and I figured I'd get up to speed on what the hell they were about.
There's a mod that lets you *craft* fulgurite ore by spawning fulgurite shoots and using agricultural towers. The idea is kind of messy but I like the implementation more than extracting ore from scrap. I'm gonna need to let the modding scene stew for a few years until someone gets a bunch of good ideas and implements them laterally.
Without AI too.

>>534533789
i jack it to cartoon characters getting big and round.
but i can also see that its a dumb as fuck thing to jork my penards to.
are you telling me, that you think the nidhog2 art is someones fetish, and they COULDN'T see how shit it was as a fit for the follow up of a really GREAT feeling pixelgame?
no, i refuse to believe it was anything but malice

>>534533789
I hate how much sense that makes.

>>534514427
Is there a game like Oxygen Not Included but with good art?

>>534536345
No. Not really, no.

>>534536345
The games that come to mind that are like oni are dwarf fort and rimworld
they don't have good art

>>534536724
dorf fort has good art
it has ascii art
which is the best art imaginable
because you imagine it

>>534538135
we do NOT talk about TILESETS here.
this is your first and final warning

>>534538251
that's not a tileset, that's vanilla

>>534538320
does your dumb sorry ass not know what a tileset is.

anyway we shall not talk of the dead

there a reason why moi plompa general died

>>534538404
no, I just downloaded dwarf fortress on steam and that's what it looks like

>>534499338
>>534505674
What would you say its the best option to convert into gas fuel?

t. also use excess food to supplement gas, but on a much, much lower scale
I wanted to focus convert my oil production into gas fuel for everything that needs it while also producing power, but that seems inefficient as fuck, so instead I burn the naptha directly for power, some fuel gas to hydrogen for whatever needs it, and then the excess fuel gas for power
but its a bit of a pain in the ass, because its never that well balanced out

>>534538735
>I just downloaded dwarf fortress on steam
Rookie mistake.

>>534543918
>I can get my bots to stuff any items in any chest by manually inserting ghost inventory
Oh, that's neat.

Anything goes if you just keep telling yourself 'this is my starter base'.

>>534544023
I'm not looking at the mess I'm looking at that retarded modlist

>>534543980
I know right?

>matthewmatosis said opus magnum was easy, shallow and simple
>i still got filtered
Is it fucking over for me

who asked you dumb eceleb worshipping nigger

>>534503986
kek

>>/wsg/5943964
>>/wsg/5943965
>>/wsg/5943967

>>534538135
looks pretty good

oops
>>534503986
kek
>>>/wsg/5943964
>>>/wsg/5943965
>>>/wsg/5943967

Learn how to reply to posts newfag

>>534544938
@Dosh is this true?

>heh i dont give a shit about ec-elebs theyre all fags
>OMG IS THAT HECKIN DOSH OMG DOSH I LOVE YOU DOSH

>>534543980
you can also automate it with recursive prints
idk if you can do a nxn nuke with it though

>>534544023
Yo. Big fan of factorio and dyson sphere (200+ hours each)
How do I escape the crushing pain of being unable to build the most compact tiny factories I can in the early game and burning out/crashing out when I inevitably have to rip it all up? Is it a mindspace? A mantra? Am I just not built for factory games? I've only reached solar sails(technically I was up to scaffolding) once and it took weeks because I don't know how to base build. Please give me advice. (Will start up Dsp and grab a picture of my current setup, it's frustratingly compact and displeasing to plan around without ripping it all up)

>>534547010
I think it's a mental illness desu. I simply can't understand why you do that.
That build isn't even compact so no idea what you are even trying to say except see the first point. Maybe some kind of hallucination?

If you want advice stop ripping things up and just build to the next thing.

Is Lemmings egg?

>>534547010
literally that one twitter meme
make it real first, perfect it later

>>534544098
>I'm not looking at the mess I'm looking at that retarded modlist
What do you run for mods?

>>534547010
Just build what works and tell yourself it doesn't matter it's just my starter base.

>>534550045
If I have to use bottleneck I choose lite, for starters. You know that shit hogs ups, right.
also
>1.1 mods in 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bHFXAtXzlY

>>534550045
what's with the weird lines at the edge of your screenshot?

>>534550680
It's a screenshot from the mapscreen

>>534550732
yeah, but my mapscreen doesn't look like that. is it a config thing?

>>534550842
They removed the scanlines in 2.0.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>534550842
>yeah, but my mapscreen doesn't look like that. is it a config thing?
I'm trying to finish my SE-K2-EI run before playing the new DLC... I just took like a year off to play other games so it's an old version screenshot.

>>534555663
wildcards have to be initialized by a conditional.
give all your loading stations the same name.

updated factorio to 2.0.60
updated mods
server is back up

>>534547010
my go to is to make a quick and dirty build, hand fed if needed, get used to having that item, burn through ALL of the backlog, and need more, without the item i feel motivated to make more of the item.
t. just finished a 40 sail per minute capable build on my starter planet, all to put off making large scale purple cubes, because doing the liquid stuff just takes so much space that i hate making it without all the rare material to trivialize carbon tubes, so im using a parasitic line off my yellow and red cube build to trickle feed purple, just enough to get interstellar so i can fuck off, find a planet with the crystals, ship em back, and ignore that entire solar system until the flow stops.

and when that doesn't work, i just fuck off to another planet and start a bulk single cube factory and ship the cubes back

>>534557375
yeah this works
Ugly but heh, tickle the tism just right

>>534547010
>Big fan of factorio and dyson sphere (200+ hours each)
>big fan
>200 hours

Has anyone tried a non-SA quality playthrough? I know it was something kovarex wanted basically since 1.0, so it's not like it needs SA.
I kind of want to. I might bring a few SA things (mech suit for sure, maybe stack inserters) with me - I'd like big miners, EM plants, and foundries too, but those might be a bit too much (frankly the stack inserters already are a lot, and I might just only bring the mech suit).

>>534563173
Big miners, EM plants and foundries without the productivity bonus would work really well in the base game I think.

To get carbon on gleba, I just park one of my normal spaceships above it and kill the fuel production to belt carbon in.
At what point do you need more? This is more than enough for my carbon needs well past aquilo in my experience.

>>534565462
are you running low on spoilage or something? lol

>>534566060
I kind of forgot that recipe existed, but the ship is a 0 dependency thing. I doubt I'd run out of spoilage though, i'm consuming about 1300/m

>>534566938
>but the ship is a 0 dependency thing
my brother in christ you sent 1000 units of splatform foundation and docked them in orbit with tier 2 modules etc to literally rain carbon from the heavens when you could make it out of literal TRASH and used that platform for actual work

>>534567157
making a spaceship is 0 brain overhead though, just stamp a blueprint and wait.

>>534567157
One of the ways to optimize one's Gleba factory is to remove anything that can be made on platform and have it supply the factory instead.
Not having to deal with metal-producing bacteria alone saves a lot of headache and lets you redirect that bioflux toward producing science.
>but muh spoilage
Into the heating tower it goes. Buffer it if you worry so much.

>>534568319
fwiw, I have never made metals on gleba (or really anything that I can bring in from other planets, other than rocket fuel). That just seems like way more work than importing it

Preface: I know, play a meme game get memed on.

That said - MOTHER OF FUCKING GOD, COFFEE STAIN YOU BUNCH OF FUCKING ASSHOLES.
Seriously, how hard can you make it to place two beams at a 5 degree angle offset as the siderail on a railbed's curving pieces and have them properly line up without gaps!

In the end I had to resort to using a tangent formula to find the proper width of the beam and then manage constructing a lathe to mill it to that exact milimeter length, by sliding a wall across a horizontal pillar -- which is seemingly the ONLY thing in the entire game that allows pixel precise placement on one horizontal axis while remaining locked on the other. Everything else snaps in fixed increments of 0.5m or 1m. Gah!

That said: it ACTUALLY works.

... which is more than I can say for the fucking blueprint designer.
'Default' blueprint placement mode while placing an existing blueprint into the designer to add it to the one you're working on, actually works differently with a different coordinate system than it does OUTSIDE - in the normal world. In both, if you use 'Default' mode you can align the edge of the blueprint you are placing against another element already placed in the world.

Out in the world, if you then lock it and nudge it - the blueprint is nudged within the coordinate system of the element you aligned it against.
Inside the blueprint designer, it ALWAYS nudged within the designer's own coordinate system. Basically makes it impossible to build up a curve of repeated tiles by making the 5 degree offset part of the tileable blueprint you can expand to e.g. a curve of 4 foundations 5 degrees each by placing it repeatedly in the designer. The coordinate system will not align correctly and you'll always be fucked.

(God damn it. Bunch of fucking amateur monkeys...)

>>534568319
>One of the ways to optimize one's Gleba factory is to remove anything that can be made on platform and have it supply the factory instead
optimize what? needing like 6 fewer agri towers? sounds to me like you simply don't want to design gleba stuff

>>534568512
>by sliding a wall
And yes- it has to be a wall. If you slide something like a beam connector, you'll find the vertical offset of the beam connector attached to the side/top of the horizontally laid out pillar does not correspond to the height a beam connector and beam has when laid onto a wall. You have to use a wall on the side/top of the pillar because THAT actually aligns consistently with its regular vertical alignment.

I swear to god - Satisfactory's name HAS to be an injoke. Like you call the guy that lost his left hand Lefty.

the automation sale ruined me I've been multiplexing between 4 games I cant get shit done

>>534570209
What games, anon. You can't just leave us hanging like that.

>>534569576
Optimizing workload designing the factory.
I prefer to use the easier alternative paths for some resources, and would rather focus on Gleba-exclusive things instead.
>sounds to me like you simply don't want to design gleba stuff
I don't want to make a redundant section that is both harder to scale, and competes with other stuff for resources.
>b-but…
INEFFICIENT! DELET!

>>534570276
py in factorio, CoI, turing complete, tower networking, GTNH
thankfully I finished satisfactory before the sale came

>>534570558
oh and I bought DSP after playing it years ago illegally but I am not starting it and putting myself in an even bigger hole

>Only built half my setup for green chips because the full build takes a 2x2 nuclear reactor to run
I should probably just slam down a ton of reactors at some point (since fusion is still relatively far away), but I really don't have that demand for chips yet. I'm just finally getting around to buffing up nauvis after doing the three primary planets.
I still have to return to cerys and moshine, but every blocker I keep hitting is from the other planets so I haven't had the incentive. I'm happy maraxsis actually puts its science as requirements for techs (like promethium science), so finishing the game guides you to engage with it.
Also ignore the lack of concrete, I was waiting until I had molten metals on-rail to actually build a refined concrete factory.

>>534570287
>competes with other stuff for resources
the only products that consume a significant amount of anything are the planet exclusive stuff

>Just noticed there was a speed beacon in range of my big miner foundry with quality modules in it
Ist ober...

>>534538773
No, takes up way too much space compared to just regular oil processing. Though resources for making it are somewhat infinite if you're smart with water use.

does anyone even play WRSR anymore

>>534576963
>No, takes up way too much space
Its not that I'm deliberately wasting food into fuel gas, but turning excess food to digesters and then burning the fuel gas on burners for power

>>534547010
I haven't played DSP since the massive logistics overhaul but the way I wound up doing it was basically just leaving my starter planet as it was and moving to the next planet over and turning into a nice and orderly forge world. Don't rip it up, just go somewhere else and do it better there.

>>534570871
>because the full build takes a 2x2 nuclear reactor to run
Well? Make the reactor bigger. What are you gonna do, run out of uranium?

>>534580768
It's more that I would need to design a 2xN reactor (which I should do, to be fair). Right now I just slap down more 2x2 reactors, which is doable but annoying (especially since I know fusion will solve all these problems).

I think I'm gonna make it to aquilo this time
what has it been, 10 months?

>>534581415
There is virtually no difference between making a bigger reactor or making multiple smaller 2x2 reactors.

>>534577476
Oh I misread, I thought it was a primary way to make diesel. Yeah, what else would you be doing with excess food?

>>534581891
You're missing out on 160 MW of neighbor bonus, it's just up to you whether that's worth redesigning your entire reactor for.

>>534582183
>You're missing out on 160 MW of neighbor bonus
wouldn't a 2x2 reactor already have the maximum reactor bonus possible

>>534582283
Obviously not, each reactor has only 2 neighbors while a 2xN has 3 in all the centers and 2 only on the corners.

>>534582283
No. The only way to have a reactor with a "full" bonus would be to completely surround it from all 4 sides with other nuclear reactors, which would make extracting and adding fuel impossible with inserters. Adding extra reactors to a 2x2 adds a bit of extra leverage.

>>534587331
But where's the goat?

Attempt one, I've made better. It should work though.

>>534587660
What are those 4 combinators doing, though?

>>534587778
fuel insertion - controlling both on heat and cells already in the reactor.
I know I can control the fuel part on pulling the cells out (which would mean each inserter only has one condition and I wouldn't need the combinators), but then I would need to manually insert the first cell into each reactor.

>>534588231
Reactors do not lose heat evenly, they're just very very close to the same temperature
If each combinator is responsible for 1 reactor and inserter, you're going to end up with uneven fuel cell insertion

py could use multi-recipe mechanic from CoI

>>534587778
>>534588231
Thinking about the combinators, I have a concern that if the reactors are different heat they'll turn on at separate times and I'll be wasting the neighbor bonus.
I think I need to have all of the reactors connected, and then have some sort of combinator outputting how many of them are on the network so I can divide by that to get the heat. I had that problem when I did individual reactor heat in my 2x2 reactor, so I think it's likely to be a problem with this.
I'll have to fit a radar in the design though, or connect wires manually.
>>534588774
I've accounted for the 2x2 thing (the reactor heat is all connected on red, and each individual reactor's fuel is connected on green). What you're saying is going to be a problem once I start tiling though

>>534589095
You could just read one reactor instead, the rest and new ones will synchronize in 1 or 2 cycles

ez

>tell modder he fucked my save with a feature he added in an update, but he didn't say a word about the feature in the changelog
>writes a paragraph of mental gymnastics and refuses to edit the changelog or to unfuck the feature out of spite
what a faggot holy shit

>>534590149
huge
are you having fun with ash

>>534591178
actually yea, I like it (I like vanilla gleba)

>>534538135
Thats a weird looking Rimworld mod, where are the anime girls?

>>534581878
negative, but very close
the ship was producing enough but wasn't consuming enough, which is a better problem to have

>>534546828
Is that how to make a BP with ghost ammo in a turret? I haven't been able to figure it out.

>>534585272
>>534587331
Believe it or not, I engineered my way through and found a way to FORCE it to align.
Can now build perfectly neatly aligning rail segments.

The trick is to prepare a blue print containing a single foundation of the railbed curve all decorated and ready to go, including the lathed beams shortened to spec on the inside curve. This one is straight aligned to the blueprint grid.

To build up a series of 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 of these into a single compound blueprint for fast placement, you first place a bare foundation, 5 degrees rotated using the normal trick to do so. (Place a temporary strut foundation, hold ctrl, hover over one of the four corners of that strut foundation so your hologram center-snaps to that corner, use the mousewheel to rotate by one tick - which is 5 degrees - and then use H to lock in place and nudge it into place.)
You do that high in the air. Then you snap the pre-prepared single-piece blueprint next to it. You lock it with H, and you nudge it into place. Yup. For some totally random and inexplicable reason, as long as the entire blueprint is a perfect 1x1 foundation the blueprint nudges in the correct inherited coordinate system and you can shift it laterally into place, nudge it down to join the curve you're building, and then delete the hovering strut.


For some completely fucked up reason - in that one isolated scenario, the correct coordinate system is used.
(Coffee Stain code. Fucking hell...)

>>534405530
planet pack? do you mean the 6 optional dependencies or is there something else

>>534590282
have you learned to be less of a dick when reporting bugs for mods being made for free by amateurs?

>>534600937
Not seeing how anon is the bad guy here. Publishing a save-breaking update/mod without acknowledging it is the dick move.

When informed of the issue, throwing a tantrum and refusing to update your changelog is tantamount to intentionally publishing malware.

Why can't the satisfactory devs make it rain?

>>534600937
have you learned to be less of a cocksucking hippie?

>>534600937
oh? me telling a fucker that he broke my save and i had to rollback several hours of progress, that he should detail the changes in the changelog and that i regret updating makes me the dick?

you sound like the type who would just smile like an idiot while being robbed

and btw, i didn't use 4chanese or gamer language while communicating with him

>>534547010
Reach interplanetary logistics using spaghetti. After that just paste down long rows of smelters from blueprints for whatever resource you need. Once you get logi bots up and running you can easily build a mall for anything in the game without having to fuck around with transporting 10249124 different gizmos on belts. Do nuclear for power once you can. Fucking around with sails is fine once you get a few research upgrades to make them less shitty.

>>534604082
That dyson sphere is anything but spaghetti

>>534604082
Good forge world, anon.

>>534604512
His point is that pre-IPL is spaghetti.

>>534604878
My point is post more of that sphere

>>534605012
Fair nuf. It does look dope.

>>534603894
>hippie insult
Dude are you like 50?

>>534605497
That's what you are though, isn't it?`Love and peace and every gets along and hugs it out while the invading enemies will rape your ass with a hot iron spear

>-b-b-b-ut my intensions were good! you can't blame me!
you are disgusting

>>534603432
>Why can't the satisfactory devs make it rain?
They actually did make it rain in-game. Then removed it again later, because their rain system turned out to tank performance fiercely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krnEjH4PcN0
kino

>>534614720
There's been a noob posting an edited first playthrough and it's been decently entertaining. You unfortunately don't see that very often, it's either pros posting edited stuff, and new people streaming part #5232 where they finally make chemical science. It's cute seeing the naive ideas new players have.

>>534614897
idgi

>>534614720
is that TTS or his actual voice

>>534615815
Nilaus made a video saying that all men needed to be better and to learn what consent is, especially to the queer and trans communities
This is from a Factorio channel and he randomly uploaded it

>>534616016
oh, yeah I heard about that, I just didn't get the reference I guess. Guys videos were kinda boring anyway and he didn't actually explain things very well.

>>534614720
>novice megabase
i kept thinking what the fuck is this guy talking about until i realized he's just saying Nauvis
jesus

What are the other kinds of factorio bases that aren't Main Bus? Isn't every factory basically just a giant main bus? Or is there something specific about "main bus" that makes it exactly that?

>>534619180
train-based bases are not at all.

train BASED

>>534619180
I guess spaghetti or organized chaos.
>This needs iron... Okay, adding a splitter and dragging the iron over.

I imagine a lot of first bases were like that. Mine was.

>>534619667
I actually like train based bases even though I am a shitter. The issue I bump into a lot is making it worth it to the use the trains. Example, I am on gleba and right now I use a train to bring fruit in and seeds out to the farms. It works okay so far but its a one rail train with 2 locomotives and it just runs back and forth between the farms and my factory. I am honestly not sure if I'd need more trains on gleba because it seems farms are pretty renewable? I actually hate spaghetti dragging in stuff via splitters because I feel cluttered. I also like to specialize sectors in my factory like "This area is for chemical liquids. This area is for smelting. This area is for this or that" etc.

>>534619180
there's only 3 real ways of moving stuff around, belts, trains and bots
I don't like the main bus, I usually skip it with my spaghetti starter base because for the most part you're spending resources carting shit around where it doesn't need to be. Like stone, you push it past your circuits, gears, steel, bricks, red science, green science, blue science, then ultimately its destination in purple science.
This comes with experience though, if you're a novice who doesn't have every recipe in the game memorised then it's better to drag things along in case you end up needing it and can't fit it in anywhere later on

>>534604082
I usually use the closest planet in my starter system for solar and use accumulators. Using nuclear is nice because it gets rid of the hydrogen/deuterium I guess

Asteroid token ring

People say they are OCD casually, but I just can't stop optimizing every detail even if it takes weeks.

So should I play dyson sphere program or captian of industry. I own both but havent gone full autismo mode on either

>>534614720
is that star control 2 music in the background

How do I find the bad recipe when all I get is
12.882 Failed to load mods: __quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:123: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
__quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:123: in function 'add_recipe_values'
__quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:208: in function 'generate_recycling_recipe'
__quality__/data-updates.lua:5: in main chunk

Mods to be disabled:
• quality (2.0.60)

>>534621684
Yeah solar accumulator shipping works fine too but I still like setting up nuclear early so I can easily scale it up later once you need it for rocket parts. Plus it makes great fuel.
>>534605012
Making cool spheres is one of the best parts of the game. I've been waiting for combat part 2 before going back and checking out all the new color/texture options.

>>534630282
Should be easy to figure out which mod is causing the error if you're using few mods

My penis seems to work fine but when I set game speed to 100x and come back after dinner there's a couple broken parts at the front

>>534631925
Instead of wasting space on walls put more turrets there.

>>534633231
I only put those there to see if they'd break

>>534631925
My penis tends to break when I leave it unattended too.

>>534631925
With that setup you're cutting the already shitty range of gun turrets in half

>>534631354
>few

>>534634358
Is that your mods folder properties or your Factorio folder's? I doubt you have 18GB of mods, or if you do you're probably using graphical mods

>>534634580
mods, and while yes I do have graphicals, its defenitely in the 100s of things

>>534634221
I guess that was the more obvious way of looking at it.

No buffering is painful but in a way I love how the turret feeds begin to resemble a chain of bullets

>>534630806
looks sick

>>534614720
>Hard sciences
What mod is that? Searching those exact words doesn't turn up anything. No I'm not watching a 3 hour video for that.

>>534630806
Do I have to clean out the local hive before I get to start making the discoball?

I basically can't protect it right now. I barely understand what to do with half of what I have researched. I have gas giant mining but I don't know what it even gives you

>>534637371
It'll be your main source of hydrogen, and a significant source of deuterium. You can burn the hydrogen, or fractionate it to obtain more deuterium, which you use for nuclear fuel and a few other things.

Focus on getting interstellar logistics running.

>>534638304
>Focus on getting interstellar logistics running.
Oh I know

I'm getting real sick of doing titanium runs manually

>>534637371
Not really. They do however steal some of the power from your sphere I think.
>Gas mining
Depends on which type of gas giant you were lucky enough to get in your starter system. Fire ice gives you access to an awesome alt-recipe but most of them just give hydrogen/deuterium. Basically you want to get the big logistic towers which will require you flying out to one of your planets and bringing back some titanium for yellow science. Once you unlock those and build some you can set up automated deliveries between all the planets in your system. At some point you're going to have to worry about an actual attack from the nexus which will require you to get some ground based defenses+shields so you don't lose all your shit. Actually clearing the hive requires some serious tech+resources to spam out ships which are way beyond you at the moment. For now you can just focus on keeping the ground attacks controlled. I'd recommend leaving at least one of the ground base up in the system so you can farm it for resources you'll want later on.

>>534638614
My first try had a fire ice gas giant, but my new one is just regular hydrogen. Shame cause I see how it lets you make graphene much easier but it's not worth going back to that old base for it

I have an entire tank of sulfuric acid right now anyway

Could you leave your Gleba base alone in factorio and have it run without your input? My gleba factory is weird but I feel like I could walk away for a bit and let it run and it wouldn't brick itself. At least not for awhile anyway. My factory is for sure not 100 percent automated though unfortunately.

>>534645069
yes, in my experience.
I think the trick is that you should just make everything, even if it spoils.

Uhhh

>>534594473
You have to manually insert the ghost of ammo into the ghost turret's inventory and then save that as a blueprint. Blueprinting a real turret with ghost ammo, or a real turret with real ammo, won't work.

>>534630806
First; How the fuck did you pull that off. That's amazing
Second; how many hours into the game itself does it take for a normal difficulty dark fog force to reach your main base? You unlock guns so fast and early but surely it takes upwards of 20 hours for them to mobilize

>>534646539
Swarm is kind of boring. You just get to choose an orbit.

>>534647124
bout 20 minutes

why does coarse fraction suck so much ass

>Get an alert that my reactors have no fuel rods
>see this
REEEEEEEEE

>>534649559
Cause you're playin' Py, sahib

>even when trying to avoid making a spaghetti factory, the factory becomes spaghetti anyway
FUCK!!!! Sulphuric acid needs fucking iron plates. Iron plates are on the other side of my facility. Its shit like this that makes spaghetti inevitable. What would even be the right play here if you didn't want to spaghetti a fucking line of belts straight through your factory to automate sulph acid?

>>534650256
You should play Py. It cures you of that sort of thinking because if you try to maintain it you will have a mental breakdown

>>534650256
Use the function that raises belts by z levels and route the plates that way

>>534650256
train station for unloading ore and loading sulphuric acid for future nuclear mining.

>>534650256
Break up your factory into smaller chunks, connected by trains.
It'll save you a world of headache and spaghettification.

>>534651131
Do you think trains need a sort of "minimal" distance to be useful? I like trains a lot and wanted to try using them more. However, is having a train do what you said actually worth it? I feel like that is the same as driving your car from the front of your house to the back yard. Maybe the real win is that you wouldn't need to run weird belt chains through your factory.

>>534651345
>"minimal" distance
Minimal distance is whatever you feel like it should be.
>Maybe the real win is that you wouldn't need to run weird belt chains through your factory.
This. Multiple trains can use the same tracks, or even a single train that supplies a single production block and it's station from multiple sources.
Further, having a good train network makes expanding and scaling up production a breeze, since you already have a way to supply materials without reinventing the wheel for each new section.
Even if your network is small at first, it's still a stone in the foundation of your future megafactory.

>>534650256
Once you have them, logistics bots and requester chests are the perfect solution for low-throughput, low-to-medium distance requirements like that. Just plop down a provider chest with an inserter feeding it iron plates, and a requester chest over by the acid production. Until then, belts. Embrace the spaghetti. If you want to be a bit more efficient, run a belt with one lane of iron and one lane of copper, and that way you can get sulfuric acid and batteries off the same input belt. And batteries need sulfuric acid anyway, so it's a good solution.

>>534638989
The gas giant collectors are so expensive and the starting giant is so slow at producing that it functionally doesn't matter if your giant has or doesn't have fire ice. By the time you can afford the collectors you can afford the singular space warper to set them up in an actual productive system. Deuterium is the much better gas giant "bonus" resource but even that is largely irrelevant for ultimately the same reason, by the time you need enough of that that setting up fractionators becomes a pain (and they are really fun to set up so basically never) you can just pick a good giant to harvest anyways.
Now what you might want to restart for is if your ice planet doesn't have fire ice deposits because you can actually mine and use those without the hugely expensive gas giant collectors. It's not game breaking and honestly for a first run you might want to play without that being available immediately but personally I look for a seed that has that for my runs these days.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/fulgurite_synthesis
This is a pretty neat idea and gives an off-planet use for agritowers. No idea about balance but I like it.

>>534622693
>>534623603
>Tren
Do you have overflow in a loop or something?

>>534630806
That does look sick, but I don't think that's possible in any way

>>534659724
i hadn't thought about how weird it is that growth towers really only do anything at all on gleba
i guess lightning collectors are the same

>>534660354
you can harvest trees on nauvis

>>534660204
its easy, multiple dyson rings with different orbits, to get them spinning backwards you just flip the zenith, that webm is literally in the game.

>>534631925
can your game actually run at 100x speed?

>>534604020

>me telling a fucker that he broke my save and i had to rollback several hours of progress
Dumbass, mods can't "break" a save.
Factorio saves works LITERALLY in a way that if some mod broke some shit you can just rollback to a previous version and everything's peachy. It doesn't overwrite your modlist and fuck up your game. You dumb gorilla nigger brain bitched about the fact that you updated, then instead of downgrading your version you just bitched about it on the discussion page.
Literal monkey brain shitflinging. Glad he didn't help you.

>>534660569
does that really count as "doing anything"
I guess technically they're more space efficient for power than solar

>>534661768
it is an effective way of absorbing pollution of which there is like 1 other way
and it is the only way to get infinite wood
is it broadly useful? no
does it have a use? yes

>>534661670
>you can just rollback to a previous version and everything's peachy
you mean roll the mod back?

>>534661768
it's called landscaping
making your factory look a little less ugly than phoenix, az

>>534661929
yes :p
you download the mod
you see the warning flash sign about missing shit
you say ok
oh no this update just completely assguttered my save what will i do
you delete the mod
you download a previous version of the mod
you reload the save
Surprise! Your save is perfectly fine, as nothing fucking changed. Because it's the same fucking save.

>>534661913
its usefulness is directly proportional to the research cost
>>534662008
yeah, for like one hour until the trees are dead again

>>534662180
then you replant them

>>534662276
right, that doesn't sound like a giant pain in the ass at all

>>534645069
Yes, took a few false starts but eventually I had everything set up so that things could bootstrap themselves from spoilage, including the metals chain. It wasn't ideal for freshness though so in retrospect I should've also just designed it to also run full time in addition.

>>534661610
I mean that they're not physically possible

>>534663073
Oh sorry. I don't care.

>>534615910
I'm afraid that's his actual voice.

>>534614720
>conga line of cargo bays behind the thrusters
that really doesn't seem safe even if the ship is constantly moving

>>534637309
It's just what he calls the non-Nauvis sciences

>>534651131
>>534652361
Train stations take up so much fucking space though, not to mention effort to set each one up. I did a train based base in Nullius and it slowed my playthrough to a crawl. I don't know how Dosh does it.

>>534662359
You can literally automate it?

>>534665230
>vulcanus
>fulgora
>hard
and why is this dumbass putting tier 2 prod modules in everything instead of tier 3s despite having unlocked gleba

>>534666250
This is no retard zone, please no retard here

>>534666250
>You can literally automate it?
yes, you can automate having sparse trees in a grid
too bad it looks like shit

>>534663073
The physics of structures like this are problematic in a few ways:
1) The total mass of star encompassing structures are truly enormous.
2) The material strengths required for spinning them (if you'd like to live on one with gravity and air, for example) are also outlandish.
3) Because they are structures, centered on the star, they are not orbiting, thus will wander away from, or into, their star.

Anyway, DSP is a video game. An AU is 40km and a ly is 2400km. Planets are less than half a km in diameter and stars are only 4 times that. It's fine.

>>534663073
If you wanna get autistic about it, 85% of the content in DSP hinges on unproven scientific claims and speculative math
it's called a videoGAME
don't be like the retard who pointed out the issues in dead space's safety railing

>>534666638
DPS spheres aren't really rigid which you can prove when you fly trough them. They are simply loosely connected swarms on orbits. Most of those weird orbits in OP's case are also totally possible due to back pressure from solar radiation letting you "sit" in space if you want. Of course these things require active controls and energy to run, well they are literally enjoying infinite solar power so that part is covered too.

Repented of my sins.
No longer attempting to lead with the other design. The idea behind it was too mercenary. Bespoke commands and inputs are best. No complex setup to worry about, and you can fine-tune for throughput.
The nightly raves are sweet.
And yes, I launched a rocket just a few hours later.

>>534667061
You don't know what an orbit is.

>>534660569
Alright anon, but growing trees is either a niche or ornamental usecase and the agritower is still virtually worthless offworld especially when compared to the other secondary planetary unlocks (big drills/recyclers).
Any mod that adds more cool shit for the agritower to harvest is good to have. That and more biolab recipes.

>>534619180
>Main Bus
Easy, intuitive, and it looks kinda nice once set up.
>Train-fed
Undeniably the coolest-looking of all. Can be pretty modular if you know what you're doing. Much less spaghetti.
>Bot-run
You really have to go out of your way to make this happen since logistic bots aren't usable until you have utility science up and running.
>Circuit-spaghetti
Pure fun
>Circuit-modular
The true sense of "optimizing the fun out of the game", though it's more like optimizing the game out of the game.
>Radar-based
Because of the way Factorio's map and resources work, there's never a reason to do this. If your base is big enough that the mere presence of the radar doesn't let you change the thing you want, you weren't going to use radar-transmitted signals to control anything anyway. Either that, or you know how easy it is to just add another radar.

What's the best way to learn how circuitry works in Factorio? Is it just coding? I'm pathetically incompetent at coding of any kind.
As an aside, I wish I could figure out train signals but my brain can't wrap around it.

>>534650256
Design a chemical section in advance, figure out what you need to run (and where), then make a good space for it and route the pipes around the exterior of your base. Fluid doesn't really have a "speed" worth worrying about.

>>534666638
what mean is that Dyson Spheres (or rings at least) would theoretically possible, you're just putting pieces in orbit statically in orbit and then connecting them together, the whole structure put together would make the orbit more stable

besides I knows its a game and you're supposed to just enjoy, many of the dyson sphere people do are feasibly impossible
but having the whole structure just gyrating off center irks me somehow,
anyway, rant done, I'm off

>>534666638
>The total mass of star encompassing structures are truly enormous
Rounding error compared to the star itself. Even when talking about the bigly ones which DSP does not cover.
>The material strengths required for spinning them (if you'd like to live on one with gravity and air, for example) are also outlandish.
Sure if you're making a ringworld but for a dyson swarm it doesn't matter. I know they're rigid in game but uhh stylistic license.
>Because they are structures, centered on the star, they are not orbiting, thus will wander away from, or into, their star.
Now you outed yourself as a retard. There's absolutely no reason a rigid structure can't orbit normally.
Imagine a bunch of sattelites in shared orbit, now you weld them all together with comically long I beams. They don't suddenly crash from the sky because you never changed their velocity.

>>534668773
Circuits in factorio are tools to either tell a machine something relevant, control its actions, or get information from it.
You do this by sending digital signals at them. They each have different ways to interpret/provide signals, but the following machines are the most important ones:
-Assembly machine (Can tell it what to make or get information about what it needs)
-Inserter (May control what it can/cannot pick up and when it does so)
-Belts (Tells you what's on the belt and conditionally even stops it)
-Trains (Controls the train's movements, but also tells you everything imaginable about it. This game belongs to train autists.)
Your tools are the constant combinator, the arithmetic combinator, the decider combinator, and the selector combinator.
Respectively, they send out constant signals; modify the values of signals; use if/then statements to control signals; and use a miscellaneous utility function on signals.
These control what signal goes out and when. Depending how you weave things, these can be either cute tools for preventing clutter, or the thing that turns your base into an effortless utopia.
The best way to use circuits is by getting the machines to each tell each other how (and when) to help each other. They'll make life easy for you if you figure them out.

>>534668773
Make a circuit controlled cracking set up. Read the tanks and control pumps that lead to cracking facilities. Try to figure out what signals you should read and what levels your pumps should trigger so that heavy gets cracked to light and light to gas without any of the ingredients running out or overflowing.
It's the easy way to practice and frankly the only real use case in vanilla.

>>534670291
>and frankly the only real use case in vanilla.
anon...

>>534670515
Ironically it wasn't the case pre 2.0 because pumps did act as priority splitters before that, now they don't so you must use a circuit to get priority splitter functionality back. The same can't be said about the normal items which can be handled with a priority splitter.

>>534670604
Splitters are static and limited in use. Overreliance on those how you get uncontrolled production and sprawl.

>>534623603
Interesting trick to condense input into a single filter splitter and capitalize on the fact that its throughput is input-determined, i.e. effectively infinite. I'm going to steal that idea.

>>534670747
this is the retard again isn't it?

>>534671586
It's the visionary.

>>534671564
Is it really necessary though?
feels like in the end of the day through-output will always be determined to something else,
ie the digging trucks even though you just throw more trucks at it, or the train loading/unloading and then ore processing

>>534668753
by train fed you mean direct insertion from train to assembler?
and wtf is radar based

>>534667170
The less I know about this image, the better it is, in a good way
Keep it up

>>534668753
Explain

are py caravans useful?

>>534675831
Or something similar.
>and wtf is radar based
The game allows you to transmit signals along radars. Regardless of distance, these will be received by every radar on the planet.
That means it's possible to directly control remote regions using these signals, but radars already give you remote vision and the ability to change values through UI interaction as though you were there.
>>534676671
Could you clarify your question?

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/brics-rare-earths
lol, some hue made a BRICS fanfic mod (with AI content)
only way it could be sadder would be if it was a soufrican instead

>>534677531
Hop onto the server and find out
yes

is there any mod that adds puzzle levels that tech you advanced circuits?

>>534660064
I'm trying to just send stuff in the direction it goes to, to be efficient, but it could easily be converted to a loop. Just need to pay attention to the output ports.

>>534671564
Yeah it's pretty handy.

Same trick applies to storage buildings, ore sorters. I think it works with any port with a red / green arrow (trying to say, not bidirectional, not the yellow arrows). The large storage building handles 3000 / min which is 6.67 belts.

Doesn't work with the balancers

>>534673884
They did increase a lot of input/output limits in update 3.

>>534661670
>mod sneakily introduces changes
>said changes aren't noticeable until several hours pass
>why is my factory dead?
Mods can "break" a save, only like the smooth brained no life retard you are, you don't value your time, so when hours of progress are deleted, unlike to others, it doesn't really matter to you. You're just an uppity entitled little faggot who expects "thanks" for handing out airtight packages with shit inside inside a box, because you did it for free. Arrogant little shit.

>>534682421
>They did increase a lot of input/output limits in update 3.
Yeah, but as the saying goes, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link

>>534683430
That's how I treat anybody who complains about my mods too. Modlet peasants should know their place. Maybe stick to vanilla if modding is too complicated for you.

>>534683430
>You're just blah blah blah
are you aware that you're not talking to the mod creator?
and which mod is it even?

Any spage mods yet that have space platforms travel horizontally instead of up?

>>534683887
He sure does take the topic more personally than the mod author himself though.

>>534684530
Probably. Does several post-long seethe at video games count as taking things personally, doe?

it was promised that everybody would get there own new gemmies from the neweggs but how are we all gonna get new gemmies if theres thousands of us and less than thousands of neweggs

>>534678026
>Could you clarify your question?
Yeah of course, I'm curious at how a circuit spaghetti or circuit-modular base would look like.
How is that a change in base architecture?

>>534683939
Just turn your monitor.

I think the recipe calculator crashed the server again mr host...
Send help, can't build them here rare earths without that there server

rebooting reset my second monitor it's too fucking dark REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I hate purple so much its unreal

>>534691184
they build really quick, moving just the iron, stone and steel would save you a belt

>>534691329
It does save some belt space if you transport the ingredients but only if you have at least 25% prod since it outputs 2 items but consumers 2.5 items.

>>534691329
the 4 rail belts waterfall into science a short distance nonstop, and I have 5 mine input belts for stone but only two for iron. stone is horribly unbalanced and purple science needs way too many rails.

>>534666638
>Because they are structures, centered on the star, they are not orbiting
isn't this why you start with a narrow ring? at that point every individual panel is functionally orbiting
doesn't really work once you tech higher latitudes admittedly

>>534677531
love my fat drones that happily haul shit through the middle of the base for the cost of a brain

>>534686452
Circuit-spaghetti is just base spaghetti with circuits and contraptions scattered about, or an overlaying of logic machines onto one of the other base styles. It looks like a total jungle since it makes main buses irrelevant and doesn't need to use any of the other base design features.
A "circuit-modular" base would look like >>534667170. Lots of blueprint copy-and-paste for machines with definite purposes. It has a "cleaner" look.

>>534690956
why are they called rare earths if there's so many patches of them
also: fuck the change to rate calculator that made it so you need to select water type individual for each recipe before it starts counting

>>534691184
>>534691329
The number of production science belts could be cut in half with a bit of belt-weaving and maybe one or three splitters.

damn, you need to build a lot to get a lot of electromagnetic science

>>534669708
You're right to say dyson objects orbit, but you're wrong to say they orbit normally. A rigid structure definitely behaves differently from a swarm of point masses.

https://www.aleph.se/Nada/dysonFAQ.html#BUILT
http://www.alcyone.com/max/writing/essays/why-niven-rings-are-unstable.html

>>534698617
its all holmium limited so I just built a secondary loop that voids everything with a drift net for a few items and everything surplus gets torn apart

>>534699073
I completely forgot about the internal fights on the internet between nieven and his fanbase

>>534699821
I don't know if it's fair to call them fights. It's more like Niven was a pulp author who got schooled on physics by hard sf fans, while he jerked off to interspecies fucking.

>>534700058
If it gets to the point the dude has to write a whole ass preamble in his book about how the internet is actually wrong it's definitely struck a nerve or two.

>>534700257
Which book is that? In the ringworld series he writes a preamble how the internet is right and then makes the plot of the book about that specific point?

farewell dumbest idea

ps.
managed to fix my mouse's middle button, gratitude to anon
thank fuck managed to open even with a messed up screw

>>534700257
IIRC, the foreword didn't refute anything, just acknowledged the validity of the criticisms.
>internet
lol

>>534700451
>Which book is that?
I have vague recollections of reading book 1 to 3 and just skipping 4 and one of them had an introduction by the author about his spats. I'd have to actually check the book, and I could just likewise be remembering incorrectly. gimme a sec.

>>534700580
probably that then.

>>534699073
Wouldn't the uniform gravity idea only apply to a 100% solid sphere that doesn't deform though? Basically nothing is a fully stable, uniform object in practice, so the gravitational effects would change immediately when a section of it moves

Server bros...

>>534697431
Rare earths aren't actually all that rare
They are pretty bitch to make though both irl and in game.

>>534702875
On the scale of an orbital structure small enough perturbations to not matter don't really matter in the grand scale of things. Deforming a meter or two across a million kilometer diameter structure won't matter and will be dwarfed by something like things moving inside the habitat. You would need to deform to critical failure scenarios before the gravity effect would be noticeable and you are fucked long before that for other reasons anyways.

>>534703165
it's okay i can just load my save and think about what the fuck we can actually use all the spare meat for when ulric butchery is set up for bone meal

>>534704060
Meat frankly has very little use unless you go the atomization or pluripotent cell routes. Personally I just burn almost all the butchery products because brains are needed in such a high ratio compared to everything else. I think it would be pretty interesting to lean hard into organ printing though.
I had hoped I could set up the rare earths today (I will do em tomorrow if server comes back then) and I think that's the second to last ingredient we need for the next science if I'm not remembering wrong so we are in pretty good spot right now.

>>534705263
nah, there's still a bunch of shit. cows need their whole chain done, i think sulphurics basically haven't been touched, there's a couple more aquatics that we need aside from zipirs (and those still need to be finished, missing one of the ingredients). something cobalt i think? maybe we have that one

>>534705664
The cobalt thing is in rare earths chain, that's what I was making when I crashed the plane with no survivors. Sulfuric acid is also needed for rare earths.

>>534697125
oh okay, thanks

>>534705957
oh there's also good alien samples and i don't remember how painful that is

Time to make one.

>>534647118
Thanks anon, I'll try that.

>>534657567
I don't even have an ice planet. I have the habitable starter planet on the outmost edge, a dessert planet that only has titanium, and a mahgmah planet that has titanium and silicon

>>534683430
>revert version
>wow it's fucking nothing
unless the dude added a fucking building you're bitching about nothing
it also seems like the mod you're playing with is shit so lmao get fucked

>>534719097
Well it doesn't matter that much but you definitely want to unlock warpers asap first and then look to hook up the rare resources before scaling the base. Fire ice is arguably the most useful to have but the others are also very useful especially organic crystals since those are also a bitch to make normally.

Since lua is turing complete, does that mean you could theorically run a tiny program within factorio?

>>534720223
>could you run a program with a programming language???
perhaps

>>534720223
now design a NAND gate with combinators

as a modder it warms my heart that /egg/ is fellating my kind this hard

>>534721659
How about using trains instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1PlPG2vUjY

>>534722290
It's even more fun when you realize what mod anon is being angry about.

>>534720223
What do you think mods are?

>>534728943
Corrupted, nazis, useless, power hungry freaks doing it for free.

>>534690956
sorry for the wait

>>534678026
I could definitely use radar cloud computing to avoid setting up little clocks everywhere. Every little device i build has an individual clock or a reset and it annoys me, i want to remotely connect to the master clock. I'll do that once i play space age.

>>534683939
I'm really not comfortable with the ideas you shared in this thread, i don't want you to stay here.

>>534697431
They're pretty common in terms of bulk abundance in the crust, about comparable to copper, but unlike copper they're a lot less likely to actually concentrate into mineable deposits so functionally speaking they're a lot rarer. Though I think that's kind of incidental to the name since it dates back to when they were first being discovered to 1700s chemists to begin with.

>>534738493
NO DON'T KILL THAT RABBIT

Factorio factory designs for this feel?

what a dreary shithole
how do I know how much heat I need to be making, besides build until it jams up

>>534743953
Heating towers are like nuclear reactors, they keep burning regardless of if it's required or not. So you can just burn any excess fuel in them or hook them up with circuits like you'd do a reactor.
Also please stick some modules in these cryo plants.

>>534731221
what do you use clocks for?

>>534743953
if you want precise heating values you can ctrl shift F over an entity and see its unfreeze power requirement somewhere, or read the wiki with a nice table
for non precise results you just need a heatpipe with what, 30C?
assuming you keep your steam generation and unfreezing heatpipe networks separate there shouldnt be any problems with unfreezing, you really don't need that much

>>534744621
Keeping the time, stupid

Does each planet in factorio offer you stuff you might use on other planets? I went to gleba first and I think I'd be hard pressed to use the bio chambers anywhere else besides here because they only use nutrients right? What advantage do bio chambers have over assemblers and other methods? Is there anything from Gleba that you would use in space also? Like what if I wanted a space ship that has biochambers on it? Probably pointless I imagine. Yet you can dump foundries wherever and its always useful apparently. Fuck vulcanus.

>>534569576
>sounds to me like you simply don't want to design gleba stuff
is there a problem with that

>>534748515
yeah, their gimmicks pump fresh life into nauvis
and I like the biochambers, nests don't use much flux so I got plenty lying around, can't say no to free oil processing

>>534748515
stack inserters are very useful.
Vulcanus' foundries and big miners are incredibly useful (Having them for fulgora is the main reason I go to vulcanus before fulgora), and fulgora's EM plants are also amazing on any planet you could use them.
Biochambers are not worth the hassle on other planets imo, but that's just my opinion. The things you unlock with gleba science are amazing though
>What advantage do bio chambers have over assemblers and other methods?
The 50% builtin productivity is amazing, but the nutrient dependency is kind of annoying. The other planets' equivalents are less annoying.

>>534749008
That seems to be the common thing with gleba I am finding. "Yeah its sort of useful but has like triple the annoyance factor."

>>534749914
biolabs and prod3s are phenomenal and stack inserters are great. The fruits of the science are exceptional, but you have to actually do the researches.
The other planets reward you much more just for landing on them.

>>534749914
what I don't get is that it's a solved problem
the shoddy factory I set up 50 hours ago is still churning along fine, and I'm confident it will go for another 50. Once it's set up then there's no hassle

>>534750112
I think that is where I am getting now. I am ramping up my gleba factory for shooting rockets into space. Then I gotta get the science packs, get them off world and then back to nauvis to actually do the research. I imagine you shouldn't be doing research on planet besides nauvis. So I gotta ship fucking spoiling science packs back to nauvis for gleba research. Probably gotta put in a lot of exception handling for my factory on nauvis too. Like what if a science pack spoils and bricks a conveyor lane or something. LOVELY!!! All part of the fun though I guess.

>>534750519
>I imagine you shouldn't be doing research on planet besides nauvis. So I gotta ship fucking spoiling science packs back to nauvis for gleba research. Probably gotta put in a lot of exception handling for my factory on nauvis too. Like what if a science pack spoils and bricks a conveyor lane or something.
The good news is you'll need to redo your labs once you get biolabs anyways, so you don't need to retrofit into your existing setup.

>>534750519
on my first playthrough I was so spooked by the spoiling science that I set up science on gleba
I lost my ship shortly after disembarking and I had nothing with me, and not enough infrastructure on nauvis to make another so transporting it was out
it worked but I haven't done that since, but I've also never stooped to the level of importing silo ingredients and rocket parts

>>534750175
Couldn't you say that about anything and everything in this game though? "Once its set up, there is no problem."

>>534751069
indeed, then your options are expansion or optimising
that's the rabbit hole

>>534750873
This is how I am going to approach every planet honestly. I want to land on a new planet and have basically nothing but my guns and some shit ammo. Its how I landed on gleba and I can't get back to Nauvis until I build rocket infrastructure on Gleba. Doing it this way because I want to understand every planet intimately.

Blue chips are real?

>>534748515
Very yes. Imo Biochambers are the least exciting of the 3 planet buildings. They're still excellent especially for oil cracking but it's hard to compete against infinite free metals, or the effective combined 500% productivity on Tier 3 module production, for example.
Gleba has a ton of kickass technologies though. Stack inserters are insane. It's where you research Prod3 modules. And biolabs are a literal free 2x SPM.

>>534754165
Green chips too

>>534754165
Bro, your snacks?

>>534731221
...That actually would be useful for my bases.
That's an amazing thought. I should've considered this.

when the engineer is making a thruster by hand, can't he just flip the fuel types on one side?

>>534763320
He is incredibly autistic and it feels wrong for him to do it any other way

>>534763320
obviously not
the mechanism is bound by the laws of physics, as is everything

>>534744621
They host information for a set amount of time, or they provide a definite time value for use in the network.

>>534764264
Wow so cool his entire thigh turned into a train car. What a feat of engineering.

>>534769024
Bro, are you not a transformer?

>>534769150
Sadly, no.

I still feel sad about StarMade's death.
There were such big plans.

>>534769150
wait, is THAT what trans stands for?
holy shit guys, ive been telling hippopotamus prime to kill himself all these years?

>>534773712
kek

>>>/v/717806861
It's too late. I was having fun until I had to be brought back down to reality. Yes, I am a retarded fucking loser who sucks at this game just like I suck at life. I use video games as a surrogate activity to fill up my limitless free time and I'm not even good at them.

>>534776206
Sucks to be you, I'm perfect at everything I do and the most handsome, intelligent and humble man on the planet
Can't relate

>>534776206
I don't think anyone asked, buddy. Door's that way.

>>534776285
dosh?

>>534779317
No, Dosh is a retard that thinks roguelikes are good and cannot fathom the concept of standalone titles in a series

>>534776206
you ok bro? take your meds

>>534754165
>noooo you can't sell chips to them!
>nvm you can now
Gotta be a backdoor right?

>>534780382
It's called a "bribe", anon. Or maybe "government extortion", depending on who is it that came up with the idea.

>>534748636
yes, it means you are a lazy bastard that hates puzzles and should be playing satisfactory instead

do you produce Overgrowth yumako soil on nauvis or gleba?

>>534779617
>that thinks roguelikes are good
I'm afraid that's what peak intelligence does to a man. We should all be sorry for the burden he has to carry.

>>534785234
>roll the slots until you win
Wow it's just like battle garegga, one of the worst designed videogames ever made!
roguelikes and shmups truly are the retards genre

Too, too heavy.

I'm just gonna say it
I think My Heart Will Go On is a good song

This is why you fags need to bump the minecraft general on page 10, all the retards get here

>>534786121
LET'S GET RETARDED IN HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkEc2V3mO4

what's your opinion on fulgora demolishers?

>>534788074
was fulgora originally sand instead of oil?

Do we fw(fuck with) Oddsparks here

>>534784135
You should be producing it on Gleba. If you don't, stop playing Factorio.

>>534776206
That's tough. Only sexually active people are good at Factorio. When virgies play they tend to take double the playtime to do basic shit. Maybe stick to a game more your speed like Runescape or some shit KEK.

>>534788526
why?

I went from not having enough coke to being bottlenecked on coke this shit feels like balancing 50 boxes on top of each other

>>534788074
I don't even understand the concept behind a demolisher on fulgora.

>>534788074
wonder how far indev the demolishers were before the change. like was the territory system a thing already or were they originally a more standard enemy?
>>534788254
it still is sand on the islands

>>534791974
You don't understand how giant worms on a desert planet may remind people off dune?

>>534792162
>desert planet
Fulgora is literally an oil ocean with pockets of land.

>>534792203
If only oil and sand were somehow often associated with each other.

>>534792405
Yes, if only liquids and solids were the same thing.

Fulgora has scrap and ruins. It makes absolutely no sense to have worms swimming around in an oil ocean.

>>534792536
Cope and seethe my friend

>>534792647
Whatever floats your worm.

>>534792536
>it makes no sense to have worms swimming around in a dense soup of organic compounds
>let them eat lava instead

>>534792684
well... oil is pretty dense, I think that could float it.
now I want pools of liquid mercury on 'anus

>>534792740
makes perfect sense to have a tungsten-based life form swimming in lava in a barren landscape where they're the only thing alive that evolved there
makes no sense to have giant worms swimming in an abandoned planet of heavy oil
had it been a sandy planet with oil patches, yes
and it would have been more dune like

so that agro smog cloud that slows you down was a holdover from battling big worms in oil

>>534792890
You are really digging yourself deeper with this retardation

E Z
I see py1 unlocks rail, do I go with cybersyn or LTN? I was thinking vanilla but I will need a lot of control over priority which is kinda bad at it

>>534796716
is that a public server or did you do all that

>>534796863
it's solo

>>534796716
>I see py1 unlocks rail, do I go with cybersyn or LTN
redundant with interrupts.

>>534796716
Use caravans they are pretty based

>>534796863
Server is bit further than that, were at the stage where were about to assemble the 5th science soon (at least we were yesterday), difficult day at work so haven't been able to log in today yet.

>>534797006
see, I was thinking that, the problem is py is a spider's web of recipe alternatives, so I need priorities on both producers and consumers
doing an interrupt push system every producer has to share a name, so I don't have an easy way to check priorities for all the producers of something
>>534797178
I like trains tho, do caravans have priority?

>>534797296
I don't know what you mean by priority in this context. Try them out they are pretty nice.
You can always put a priority splitter to do priority.

>>534797392
like train stations have priority

>>534797392
train stops can have priorities.

>>534797296
why would you need priority on producers? just build more trains

>>534797885
it's not about trains it's about recipes

>>534798417
wdym
sorry, never played py

>>534797296
You could do central buffering stations redistributing an item according to whatever priority you need.
Like this
>producer A pickup -> buffer [item] A dropoff \
>producer B pickup -> buffer [item] B dropoff |- priority splitter -> [item] pickup
>producer C pickup -> buffer [item] C dropoff /
Same thing for the output side if you want to prioritize certain destinations.

>>534547010
>Big fan
>200+ hours each
so basically you just installed the game then, i like the enthusiasm though

>>534797296
>so I don't have an easy way to check priorities for all the producers of something
make stop [itemname], limit 0, see which trains have this stop in their schedule
but then it doesn't show you their priorities, and it only works if the trains are full, and is sort of shit
still much preferrable to LTN/cybersyn imo

>>534801484
In reality I understated my hours (260 in dyson sphere, 315 in factorio) but also I don't really understand how going "wow you haven't got a trillion years in the game I PERSONALLY do? get lost kid" is fruitful to any conversation. In short; Get over yourself.
>>534604082
Fucking awe inspiring.

>>534803863
ok baby

>>534803954
Did cry, am sobbing, shall shit myself in rage. You bully.

>>534798724
two example scenarios
I turn A into B, there is an alternative recipe that takes an extra C but gives you more B per each A. A is somewhat expensive so I want to minimize it's usage, but C is not something I can reliably make, I get more or less of it based on a ton of other factors. So with train priority I build both A->B and A+C->B and set provider priority on the second one higher not to waste As.
I turn A into B with a byproduct C, the byproduct can be made cheaper with another process, and is too valuable to be voided unless necessary. I don't want to bottleneck B production because of C, so the train station providing C from the A->B+C process should have a higher priority than the other way to make C.

This actually gave me an idea for a coop-competetive hybrid mode - Marketorio. Basically, players have money, and they can create businesses which automatically buy and sell stuff. Money is created when researching and removed when buying land. So for example an early burner coal mine sells each coal for 1, but ideally you'd have it buy any other fuel which is dense enough but cheaper per MJ that the coal it sells. Iron smelter sells iron plates, but buys ores and fuel. You can set minimum sale price, maximum buy price etc. There is no voiding or stockpiling, if you make something you HAVE to sell it. The players compete to make the most profitable businesses. Admittedly, I think this will only really work with something as complex as py where there are many, many way to get the same thing.

>>534800908
at that point I might as well do regular trains

>>534804290
then changing the priority of individual stations would solve your problem, right? changing the priority of a particular station does not change the priority of all stations with that name
or are you saying it's not easy to manage priorities like that?

I usually don't play these types of games but I got addicted to shapez
That is all

>>534806606
shapez sucks

>>534785292
just like a factorio run then, did you get lucky with ore locations? or biter spawns? did you get fucked over by ALL your oil spawning in the water, so you need to travel 4 screens away to find any?
rng based.
also, the RNG elements like, the LEAST important part of a games thats like rogue, the important part is learning the tricks, so when you get fucked by rng, you know how to work around it, and when you're blessed by RNG you know how to capitalize on it.

>>534803863
It takes at least a thousand hours to learn Factorio. Boasting anything less is foolish.

there is no inherent value in replaying Factorio once you beat it once

>>534812652
ok but you didn't beat the game

>>534806606
>>534806773
nvm got bored of it

>>534812652
what do you mean by 'beat'

>>534814385
when you see pic related

>Start wondering what it would take to make a "true" one million spm megabase, before using the promethium research tech, just module and lab productivity.
>For most techs, you need to make 250 kspm because the labs have a 4x productivity multiplier.
>This is 1260+ legendary science assemblers, just for Nauvis, all legendary beacons and modules
>1125 legendary labs
>If you're aiming for research productivity after that, then you need double the labs because fuck you
Holy fuck, I guess you really need the research productivity for that 1million spm.

>>534818467
eSPM is all that matters though, and that doesn't grow with research productivity

Amusing
>>534812652
>doesn't want to try new factory designs
>doesn't want to try deathworld
>doesn't want to try overhaul mods
This anon is NGMI

>>534814827
that's like the early mid-game

Era One looks sick. It's kind of funny watching people try it and clearly having no idea on how to design a ship and just floating over a bit box

>>534826663
>30 bucks
>no multiplayer
>no maps
>no missions

Early access space games are cursed. Just look at Nebulous fleet command.

>>534827857
I mean it's clearly just an early access sandbox. the big issue is it's made in unity and already having performance issues

>>534789571
just decide what a build is supposed to produce and be prepared to throw absolutely else in the grinder if you need to

Chief.... we crashed again on the server. This time I don't think I was even doing anything so I don't take the responsibility for this!

Alright, new manufacture for construction stuff done

>>534796716
I haven't used LTN, only Cybersyn. It took me a while to really understand how to work with it, but it allows you to make cursed multi-use stations that can receive or deliver like 6 different types of items in the same stop, which was really neat for stuff production blocks that work with a bunch of different low volume things with needing to take a ton of space just for stations. Make sure to enable the experimental management interface and use the Cybersyn Constant Combinator mod.

>>534796716
I haven't used LTN, only Cybersyn. It took me a while to really understand how to work with it, but it allows you to make cursed multi-use stations that can receive or deliver like 6 different types of items in the same stop, which was really neat for production blocks that work with a bunch of different low volume things without needing to take a ton of space just for stations. Make sure to enable the experimental management interface and use the Cybersyn Constant Combinator mod.

>>534796716
I don't think you should use LTN or Cybersyn now that vanilla trains are powerful enough.
You have caravans for stuff that you would need mixed stations for anyways.

>>534828857
also upped a little the oil cycle

>>534827937
as a homeworld fan I waited 21 years for a sequel just for some random cunt to hijack the game to turn it into her personal self insert fanfiction
i will happily support the complex team in this

>>534831130
What the fuck happened?

How is Captain of Industry, worth getting now?
Basically I 100% know that I will get it and I want to try it now but do you guy think it's better to wait for 1.0 if I can?

>>534833070
Just get it now or wait for sth like autumn/winter sale, devs these days like to increase the price on 1.0 releases

I like exhausting patches, and when it gets close to being done I juice it hard.

>>534833070
I would purchase it when I want to play it.

>>534744621
This answer >>534765901 means nothing to me. A clock just counts: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ...
Suddenly i'm able to trigger an action upon the clock reaching 2 or any of its numbers, spawning logic out of nothing. A clock is the first layer of order. A clock counts without purpose.
Say B when clock reads 1, say E when clock reads 4, say N when clock reads 8, say I and S when 9 then 10.
>.B..E...NIS
Order from chaos, the system arises. It begins.

>>534833471
wooo look at him go

>>534833471
The secret technique for exhausting patches is to mine them like this
EƎ
instead of just
E
That way the miners in the center where the patch is thickest work the most, especially when there's not enough demand to keep the belts moving 100% of the time

>>534835179
I normally just deconstruct the miners that are exhausted and then build beacons around them when they get low

are the stationeers still alive? how's your station doing?

I put my spoilage burners on nauvis next to my reactor to get some free power, but I've realized the bots taking the spoilage there probably costs more power than it creates.

>>534831385
The same thing that happened everywhere else in the AAA-industry: woke snowflakes overprojecting their personal worldviews.

>>534833070
Price will likely go up again for 1.0 release.
If you know you'll get it eventually anyway - might as well get it now and park it if you don't find the current level of polish and content acceptable enough yet.

>>534833471
It's like getting that last stuck bit of toothpaste out of the tube, isn't it?

>>534805093
yea, the problem is managing it
although now that I think about it with push-based logistics if you have two trains loaded from stations providing X with different priorities, the station priority doesn't really matter

>>534847540
they managed to make me cringe at my fetish
truly impressive

>>534831385
check mandalore's review if you're actually interested

>>534847909
Yes, however, ass.

>>534847540
Well G thanks.

>>534847909
>they managed to make me cringe at my fetish
That's pretty easy.
A lot of people would cringe at your fetish.

>>534831130
That's fair. Still going to wait a year+ to see how it ends up developing. I love space RTS and enjoyed complex back when I tried it.
>>534848116
np anon.

>>534829635
I used LTN and a dipped into cybersyn on serb, I guess I will try it again to see how it compares
we need a a third one that can actually do the multi-stop / offset loading where the train goes to a station then it can go a lil bit further to load the train, then a lil more and so on, like in CoI I don't know what the proper terminology is

>>534848449
Like, loading one wagon at a time to make the stop smaller?

>>534847540
>clever girl

>>534848582
yea, or more, but less than the entire train
or loading only some of the wagons, maybe with automatic multi-cargo, so it can go to one station to pick up A in wagon 1, another for B in wagon 2, same for C, then go to onload to a single station (though I guess that could block so not as good)

>>534848247
>>534847540
Wow this looks terrible.

>>534819948
Wait, huh, research productivity isn't factored into eSPM? Can someone else confirm this? I've never done promethium science but I was planning to try to scale up into a mini-megabase in my latest playthrough.

>>534818467
>1 million spm
that sounds moronic so it fits

>>534835179
That's a great bit of advice actually. I was thinking of futzing around with the new circuit options that allow you to read the amount of ore under a miner to try to prioritize it so that the richest miners always get prioritized, but this is much simpler and seems like it would work well, I'll have to try to remember to use this.

>>534851174
or you know, get big mining drills from vulcanus.

>>534851256
I already have. But early games still exist, and I'm running on a science multiplier so running out on a patch is still a thing that will happen to me.

2.1 when?

>>534850450
I misspoke - I meant all that matters is real SPM, not eSPM.

>>534847540
i don't get giantess fetish. probably because 99% of giant porn is also vore and vore is way down at the bottom of fetish lists along with guro, scat, and podophilia.

>>534570871
Don't see the point of all that productivity, is calcite too precious for you?

>>534582183
Don't forget to make them all legendary quality.

>>534650360
Still not sure how py is supposed to work. I've gone from hand-delivering stuff to caravan-delivering stuff, which only feels like delaying the problem. And I'm somehow on the third science pack already.

Stationeers up:
N: Green /egg/s and rum
P: Corneroids

>120s timer

>>534854421
This is nauvis

>>534855610
.. and?
you get infinite calcite from a space platform

>>534855610
I mean, rocket fuel is free.

>>534855994
The metals still take ore though, it's not actually free like on vulcanus.

>>534853709
I don't either but I'll take this opportunity to post these videos so you shall be cursed with the knowledge.
https://youtu.be/b71WtE0DIss?t=496
https://youtu.be/hHxyBC5sJE8?t=398

>>534853709
I never understood it until I read Aposimz and Ajate showed up. I now have maybe a tiny bit of an understanding and that's as far as I will ever get

>>534847540
>villain goes blah blah blah ebil speech
>protag does an angry face and scales up to the villain's size
>villain pixar smirks and says "clever girl"
what? is this a fever dream? what were they thinking? what's clever about growing to twice your size?
forget about fetish bullshit, this scene is baffling on a fundamental level.

so i have an isolated logistic network on fulgora far away and i want to send it to the main base without using bots (so i don't get alerts of bots dying all the time). how can i do that? all i came up with is sending it via rocket to nauvis and then back to fulgora using another ship, but it feels slightly retarded

>>534858274
You could use a train
Otherwise you could use a rocket to send it to a platform, and have your main base requesting whatever you're sending.

>>534854421
are prod modules too precious to you?

>>534858421
>Otherwise you could use a rocket to send it to a platform, and have your main base requesting whatever you're sending.
but it won't drop it since you have a request for it on the ship
if it were like that it'd generate an infinite loop

>>534858458
Electricity is. And lack of pollution, though I was told it doesn't matter much for evolution.

>>534858274
Send what?
Requests of anything from the network?

>>534859316
send some products i mean

>>534859445
If the products are predetermined, just use trains.

>>534859290
electricity is the free-est thing in the game
and what do you mean pollution doesn't affect evolution? lmao

>realized halfway through my first flight to aquilo that I hadn't really researched any explosives damage
whoops, thankfully it autosaves.

>>534859575
i just want to send some legendary concrete i get as a byproduct so it's pretty low volume
i also want to copy paste that factory a bunch of times on random patches, so having an entire rail network for a trickle of concrete doesn't seem ideal

>>534857620
You are wrong, the intent of this scene is very clear and not baffling at all. It just didn't come out right. Stop pretending to be retarded.

>>534828465
i didn't know it had even gone back up since yesterday
what is going on with rate calc

>>534860368
What did Imogen do that was clever?

I want /v/ to stay. Welcome friends.

>>534859749
Supposedly its effect is almost negligible compared to killing bases and time passing.

>>534860509
She learned how to manipulate the mindspace. Did you see the recent movie Dredd? It's like that dick sucking scene.

>>534860754
/evolution says my current evolution is 93% thanks to pollution, 5% to killing spawners, and 2% to time

>>534861064
Damn, I can't believe an anonymous person lied to me online.

I play with biters disabled.

>>534855365
something happened and at least one of you was dropped, restarting

make sure you restart your game or you may have issues
>>stationeering

>>534865819
CLANG

never seen this before, some of my tile textures broke. I first noticed it with the lava while on vulcanus, but it's not that noticeable on a still screenshot. You can easily see it in the gleba tiles.

>>534869309
Goes well with this
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/spontaneous-combustion

>>534869309
>created 20 hours ago
>downloaded by: 0 users
fuck off and shill your maymay mod elsewhere.

>>534869830
idort

>>534869830
what's a good name for this guy, mod authorship shizo doesn't have a good ring to it.

>>534866956
Do your space platforms look all ugly and repeating too? The game activates a memory saving mode if it detects your GPU doesn't have enough VRAM. There was a bug fixed with that recently but I think it only affected the Steam Deck.

Tonight on stationeering
>a 3rd person rejoins
>cacao blooms
>a mysterious green and purple rocket emerges
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo5l-1r8OMo
>we lose 5 minutes because I dumped volatiles in while waste was hot

>K2
>build 3.2GW repeatable nuclear setup
>decide to stress test it
>past 14 boilers the heat pipes can never heat up to make the boilers work at full capacity, and in fact lose heat instead if preheated
>permanently stuck at 137/250 steam output
Weird. This means nuclear reactors are capped at 3GW? I could make a shorter heat pipe line and see what happens

>>534869830
>>downloaded by: 0 users
That doesn't update with every download, only on a daily basis. The metrics tab shows the download count in real time however

>playing Spage after not playing Factorio for a few months
>getting my first platform ready
>all of this stuff I still want to do on Nauvis before going to Vulcanus to get more cheap material
I guess its my fault for making a relatively large barge first

>>534878438
>past 14 boilers the heat pipes can never heat up to make the boilers work at full capacity, and in fact lose heat instead if preheated
>permanently stuck at 137/250 steam output
Last time I played K2, it used old steam/water conversions or something so you might be capped on water throughput.
Otherwise make sure you're actually getting the neighbor bonus

This is the kind of dumb retarded shit I build and it's pushing the absolute limits of my brainpower. Do I have any chance of ever building a rocket? It's the only thing I want to do but I fear I need to accept the fact that I'm too much of a drooling retard.

>>534881881
You can do it!
You should hit alt before taking a screenshot though, it helps other people visualize exactly what is what.

>>534881881
I stopped playing when I got demoralized at how much faster people are than me.

>>534882291
Yeah that was an old screenshot, I'll take another one when I get on later and show my most updated retard creation

>>534881881
It isnt retarded if it works

>>534881098
It was in fact a heat pipe issue. Maybe there's a limit on how much heat can a single heat pipe line conduct?
Pic related, the setup on the left can't reach full capacity, but the one on the right can

>>534883084
As a sidenote, left makes 5.9GW and right 6.4GW

I went to Vulcanus first and plan to go to Fulgora next, how overkill would it be if I brought 20 big mining drills and 5 foundries to kickstart my production?

>>534883084
I think I see your issue. I'm 99% sure that the heat from a reactor doesn't distribute unless it is directly touching a heat pipe. I usually have a full ring of heat pipes around all reactors for this reason.

>>534883084
on the left hand side, only half your reactors are touching heat pipes. on the left hand side, each of them is touching one. i would bet that's the problem

I've been waiting for Rampant to update to play Factorio and noticed "Rampant, fixed". I remember the original mod author had other mods that let you make AI tanks that followed you around and cool stuff like that. Can I still do that or all the fun mods are still outdated?

what's going on with Space Engineers? why are they making another one? i already paid for this game, why can't they just work on making the first one better.
feels like fucking robbery they expect me to buy THE SAME GAME after i already bought a shitload of DLC. someone tell me Keen Software House is not fucking me.

>>534881881
anon you just need to divide the work into small units. do this little bit then that little bit until it's all done.
if you feel like the biters are buggin you turn them off until you wrap your head around the ideas.
also, main bus, shit will save you from spaghetti chaos.

>>534885508
>>534885950
Thanks, I always thought reactors can transfer heat anywhere
I have one more question, does all excess heat from the reactors (999C) transfer to heat pipes without any loss that aren't 999C yet?

>>534890160
I honestly have no idea how heat transference works, I was just guessing at the cause

>>534788074
Where did this info come from?

>feel stupid when I play factorio
>watch some videos, omg they're so long and everyone sounds like an aspie.
>does anyone normal play this game
>copy paste some powerful blueprints from some aspies video
>now i don't want to play because i didn't do anything i just copy pasted
what do?

>>534891653
Just accept being stupid, it worked for me.

>>534891653
start over
just take your time
keep in mind it'll take at least hundreds of hours to reach their level of efficiency
but it's the journey, not the destination

>>534892631
if you could give me one link or resource to learn the game what would it be?

EGG

well it works but it burns though way more fruit than I anticipated
I gotta renovate gleba, I finally have a reason to make overgrowth and harvest huge trains of fruit from massive sprawling fields

>>534892996
the wetness and dripping is lewd

>>534892996
>goreposting

I guess it is working.

Does electricity produce it's own signal like temperature? Or do I need to use accumulator the old way?

>>534893504
why would you want to use signals on an offshore pump? water is unlimited and steam engines/turbines never consume more steam than they need to in order to meet the current power consumption of the network

>>534893504
>loli station
>uncommon steam engines
>vulcanus tech in quickbar

>>534881881
Embrace the spaghetti anon, if I can manage to launch the rocket with my ungodly mess of a base I'm sure you can.
Sometimes with factorio the most important thing is to never let perfection be the enemy of good, just start building and if it doesn't work out patch some stuff or just start building in another direction, you've got limitless space and essentially limitless resources in the end.

>>534892995
go to youtube and learn how to set up a main bus

>>534892995
Trial and error

If people ate, shat, fucked, and pissed out of one hole would it be the main bussy?

>>534893836
I have nuclear, I want to leave the old burners for a backup power supply.

>>534894563
it'd be a cloaca

>>534894563
bus has an in direction and an out direction
so you'd need one hole for
>inhaling
>eating
>drinking
>(if female) receiving semen
and one hole for
>exhaling
>shitting
>pissing
>(if male) expelling semen
>(if female) giving birth

>>534885478
overkill? You might as well bring more. (that should actually be more than enough to start with)

>>534890160
No, you lose 1°C of maximum capacity per pipe. I don't know if that actually matters in any real design that's not trying to do long distance heat transfer.
>>534885508
They do distribute, just evidently not at a fast enough rate for that design. You can use idle reactors as a "heat tank". (This was the case in 1.1 but afaik 2.0 didn't change heat mechanics at all.)

*Battlecruiser Operationals in Russian*

>>534895145
>birds eat with their cloaca

>>534900669
Cool

>>534892996
the single blue circuit assembler i built to make personal equipment on nauvis carrying me through vulcanus AND fulgora.

>>534900702
what happened to all his hairs???

I fear I'm too stupid to have a hyper fixation. Every time I start up a factory game I get forty minutes in before realizing I have no idea what I'm doing and then close it again.

>>534903769
Just a mindset. Break problems down. Apply this everywhere.

Look at the ultimate goal: what do you need to do that? What do you need to do those things? Repeat until you get to what you can do.

>>534904007
That's really good advice. Thanks anon.

>>534903740
Total bussy inversion, his bird hair did not survive.

>>534893504
*its

>>534906182
DOK-TOR EGG-MAN'S
FACTORY CIR-CUS-S-S!
You made me hear that music.
Now I'm making YOU hear it too!

>>534903769
Fear is the mindkiller, anon. You're not having fun because you're worried about not "performing properly", which in turns stops you from entering a state of flow where you continuously learn and progress at your own pace.

>>534853709
fetishes are dumb and weird and nobody will "get" them unless they have them but I can suppose bigger women give better hugs and have bigger everything which is something I can look forward to in a woman
just don't let her get as big as a building

>>534881881
Even a chimp can build a rocket. Especially in space age.

>>534907925
I don't have this fetish either and don't get off to it, but I can accept and understand it. What I truly cannot comprehend is that subgenre of it that focus on giant girls accidentally demolishing entire cities and murdering countless. Just, why??

>>534893108
>making nutrients and plastic on vulcanus
what the absolute fuck are you doing my man.

>>534908498
>but I can accept and understand it
because you accept and understand it but you will never *get* it

>>534535227
>nuclear on vulcanus
fucking bleak

>>534890160
heat transfer is lossless, but it will get voided when generated where there is no "space" store, ie if you are at 999C you are wasting heat

>>534909718
It is incredibly retarded, yes.

>>534538404
you are a retard
go play 0.34 or something

>>534893108
dont belt shit with fast spoilage beyond what's absolutely necessary

>>534890786
the official wiki
where did they get it? i think they mentioned it in an fff

>>534891653
don't copy paste blueprints

>>534700502
yeah, at this point I've taken mine apart like 3 times, the only problem is the nigger way they put the screws under the slide pads, so you need to reapply adhesive eventually

>>534743815
realistic reactors is pretty funny since you can run your reactors to such a point that any drop in electricity demand will cause a meltdown

>>534910872
They don't work that way anymore.
In fact, they're just like vanilla right now that they have dedicated reactor rods.

>>534840378
spoilage has no fucking fuel value anyway, so there's non point
I just set up a set of 4 machines doing spoil to nutrients inputting from a requester chest with like 5 trillion demand for spoilage

>>534910989
what's the fucking point

>>534910030
any particular reason why?

>>534911817
Yes. I personally hate everything about the 2.0 refractor of RR.

>>534893108
>gleba plants on vulcanus

>>534912447
I'm likewise baffled.

>>534840378
you should recycle it into legendary spoilage for legendary efficiency modules

>>534911941
NTA but spoilage is a percentage. The spoil rate for fruits is one hour. The spoil rate for bioflux is two hours. The spoil rate for mash is like a couple minutes. So a fruit could sit on a belt for 5 minutes and lose 5% of its effectiveness. The mash sits on a belt for 5 minutes and loses 100%. The time between mashing the fruit and turning the mash into a product should be as close to 0 as possible to prevent excess spoilage.

>>534912584
that might unironically be a good idea.

>>534912653
does nearly spolied mash make nearly spoiled rocket fuel?

>>534911941
every second of spoilage of yumako mash is equivalent to 20 seconds of spoilage of a yumako
every second of spoilage of jelly is equivalent to 15 seconds of spoilage of jellynut
every second of spoilage of nutrients is equivalent to 24 seconds of spoilage of biofluix
eyeballing it, this belt run is equivalent to 1200 beltsif transporting bioflux

>>534861932
get a tank in 16 hours and clear the perimeter

>>534912910
mash doesn't make rocket fuel
don't try to get snippy when you can't even get the basics right

>>534893108
there's so much wrong in this image I'm getting convinced it's a troll post

Can we talk about the exclusive upgrades in Py? Like, all of them.

I just got the Vrauk one and can't wrap my head around it. Option one is removing water barrels from the recipe, but I can see a water pumpjack tech soon which looks like it creates water anywhere. So this seems useless other than saving half a belt around the farm. The second one is productivity at the cost of reduced speed, but almost all the inputs are only made out of water except for native flora so...why would I want to save on those? And the third one is not even a Vrauk upgrade, just an extra chemical recipe turning urea into ammonia. But that seems like the opposite of what you'd want to do, at least at this stage for third science pack and for batteries.

>>534914859
Also is there any way to reset an already selected upgrade? I got the better fiber out of wood instead of double wood production, and now there's some kind of reed plant which produces fiber better still.

Honest question: Is Py actually, like, competently designed, or is it just a throw everything at the wall and make as many recipes as possible mod that got popular just because it's long and grueling to beat?

>>534913972
he just sounds new.

>>534914859
>Can we talk about the exclusive upgrades in Py? Like, all of them.
Yes. Start here.
https://github.com/pyanodon/pybugreports/issues/696

>>534915374
you sound snippy

>>534914946
>>534914859
have you selected any? I only have fastwood forestry upgrade researched, do the recipes get replaced with new ones or can still pick the old ones after unlocking?

>>534914992
It's been ~10 years in development and it's gotten objectively better over the years. Lategame sciences are still a slog but nobody actually gets there. It's a very well thought out overhaul.
The only issue is people actively try to find exploits to make the game easier, win it and then make sure to patch them afterwards so no one else can get there.