Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #8524 - Tanabatakino Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Jet Stream | Amy, Cream, & Big the Cathttps://youtu.be/qYMbDyCMHtU
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hackshttps://youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaserhttps://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k
>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Bustedhttps://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70
>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk
>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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>>534538783 (OP)Tsunderes are better
>randomfox is the only windfag willing to call out sonic X
>but he also defends trash like lost world and forces simply because they are games
Why is it so hard to find a good windfag
>>534538968please post more
I miss Shadally.
Like actual Shadally, not just shitposting about it.
>>534539029More by the same artist or more in general
>>534538881Look...I'm gonna need you to stop posting Moviedow, he's too cute and it's ruining my JP purism. Thanks.
>>534539064It has two modes on this general
>PORN>Stealth trojan horse for Shadria
>>534539614Thank you for posting new art of these two. I'm sure to save it.
>>534539541Nice Twittertranny meme.
>>534539690It didn't use to be that way.
>>534539903>>534540053I don't know what this Wplace thing is supposed to be, but it looks absolutely retarded.
>>534539903I fucking hate trannies
>>534520527>Going off of Bumblekast, Sage will look down on Belle or see her as an abomination"I have been considering something."
"Though I have learned one can 'respect' an opponent without necessarily enjoying their presence, I lacked firsthand experience of Father's animosity-laden relationship with Sonic the Hedgehog. Until I met you."
"Belle the Tinkerer. So much like myself: the product of circumstance. You represent a data point of what I could be if I were willing to renounce the Eggman Empire. To renounce Father."
"...That alone disgusts me."
"But among our interactions - your pleas for me to reconsider my allegiances, your constant comparisons to renegade Badnik units, and leveraging of our nature as 'sisters' - there was one thing that stood out: your nostalgic waxings of the Mr. Tinker fugue state."
"You described him as a humble soul. Someone with no ambition beyond a peaceful village life. Such a person has no practical use for rapid algorithmic assessment. No use for mass data storage & refinement. No use for global command."
"Whether I would be accepted is irrelevant. Mr. Tinker...I would be useless to him..."
"You want that person back. For yourself."
"...I won't let you."
"I won't let you steal my father."
>>534540176That might be the first sensible thing to ever come out of the Bumblekrap.
>>534538840shartougefag is here
>>534540176Why do you have to writefag about good ways to use Sage in IDW, anon? You know as well as I do that Evan's gonna fuck it up like she always does - it's just gonna hurt more.
>>534540819The only thing I expect is for IDW to turn out bad, and thus I'm never disappointed.
>>534540998everythingfags...
>>534541158Has there ever been a Sonic character who coasted on their potential more than their quantifiable accomplishments as hard as Surge?
>>534541158Pointless character.
>>534541158LOL IMAGINE YOU'RE DESIGNED TO BE ANDROID 18 BUT YOUR FANS TURN YOU INTO ASUKA
>>534541350That describes literally every IDW OC.
>>534541350I recall people gassing up Infinite for a while during that period when certain fans were obsessed with defending it from everyone else calling it middling. Though I guess that's different since he's dead.
>>534541472Surge wishes she was Android 18. She'll never break a main character's arm.
>>534541350One could list every accomplishment a character has done but at the end of the day, design and character behavior trumps all
>>534541650You can't really compare the level of hype around Infinite to that of Surge.
>>534532189Cu....Cubot...?
I love and am thankful for Shadria!
>>534541904I hate cubot and orbot
>>534541928I love shadria
/Sthg/ is cordially invited to... the mansion: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/sthgmansion
>>534541350Doesn't Sage herself technically count? There's been all this buzz about where she fits into the cast dynamic post-Frontiers, enough that her showing up in IDW is its own hook since it'll give insight on what Sega allows for her.
In an odd way, I wish Bumblekast was still around because Ian being such a blabbermouth with no sense of professionalism and constantly leaking about the internal process means we'd know what mandates she's under in realtime.
>>534542075At least Sage DID shit in Sonic Frontiers, you can argue the game is more about her than it is about Sonic, intentionally or otherwise.
The only thing Surge has to her name is ongoing failure and a simp nobody cares about.
>>534541973>I hate cubot and orbotMe too.
>>534538783 (OP)Vault Silver and Blaze
>>534542075It's for the best that it's gone. It feels like now that he doesn't have a platform to speak like he's "official", his rep has plummeted much faster. He still had lingering "I WROTE FRONTIERS/SHADOW GENS" cred with it around.
>>534539903Mental illness perfectly in one image.
>>534542165>At least Sage DID shit in Sonic Frontiers, you can argue the game is more about her than it is about Sonic, intentionally or otherwise.Definitely intentional, the whole idea is that she grows as a "person" to the point she gets closer to Eggman when she sees Sonic's determination overcoming her improbable odds and the group dynamic with him and his friends.
>>534542463Well that and people are finally realizing that his work isn't all that good. Even IDW fans are getting sick of IDW Sonic at this point. The issue before last was really ripped apart.
>>534541657RODENTS
>>534542461She can go too.
>>534542648>When bat tongue goes up the ass
>>534542463People only cared about Ian because they saw him as the middleman between the fandom and the franchise and used his podcast to get insider info via paying him with their questions. They would also brownnose with the hope of getting hired for the comic or games. Once Ian doesn't offer that "opportunity", they dip.
>>534542849They only ever asked questions that weren't meant to be answered, like "who is gay" and "what would A do with B even though this situation would never happen"
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>>534542934Because those were the questions Ian would answer without NDA excuses, lol.
>>534542934I'm afraid
>>534542849 has a point, even with those questions: Ian's word had weight as a "Sega employee" and people would legitimately ask those questions in order to validate headcanons or ships. Don't forget most Sonic fans are autists, schizos, or otherwise obsessively deranged about their specific fixations.
>those ridiculous lisps we had to endure and Ian and Kyle had to pretend to ignore that represented the fandom wiki
>>534543164They would even ask Ian about games he wasn't even involved in. Like Sonic Adventure 2. What the fuck would Ian know about that game?
i am tired of talking about ian everyday. and it's literally the same discussions. literally a rerun of the day before. shut the hell up. let's talk about Shadow the Hedgehog (2005)
>>534543584Discussion about Ian will stop when he stops writing the games.
>>534543659alright. wait for the next game. I don't want a rerun of a rerun of a rerun of a rerun from 2 years ago. shut the heck up
>>534543741It will stop once he's not hired anymore, anon. You're gonna have to deal with it. Even if I stop talking about him right now, someone else will.
>>534543689Shuffle did it first!
>>534543741Put bluntly, there's not much else to talk about. We're in a drought period where Blade of Courage is the only monthly thing going on.
I want to see Shadow and Maria exploring the Earth together.
>>534543949It's not really a drought. It's just the content coming out is shallow. No style or substance. Nothing generates discussion.
>>534543907It did a lot of things first..
>>534544137They've effectively let things slip to bimonthly with their schedule.
Lets talk about Archimedes
>>534544204My only memory of him is when Knuckles tried to eat him during his first mini.
>>534544137What's there to talk about besides the people writing it being retarded hacks or the OC being gay and lame?
>>534544521I thought people obsessed over Surge?
I still say IDW needs a side comic like Archie's "Sonic Universe" instead of clumsily trying to fit everything into the main book.
>>534544613With the state of IDW as a company, they couldn't afford it. Remember that they said they only have enough money to last "at least another year".
>>534544613>everythingwhat everything? anything barely happens.
Archie was unrestricted to muh gay canon and had a shiiton of characters. allowing the capacity to run multiple plots at once
>>534544764>Archie was unrestricted to muh gay canonOh great, another "Archie vs. Games" debate post.
MIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>534544837Time has not been kind to her.
We could talk about how great Unleashed's story is
>>534544836That's not the point. the point is that it had the capacity to be its own thing. the movies are what archie used to be.
Did Eggmen Naga make more sense as dimensional counterpart or future descendant?
>dimensional
-his original games imply as such, and most retcons like "Sonic's world" or "Classic dimension" are undone
-makes more thematic sense
>descendant
-if Eggmen Naga exists then why isn't there a Sonec Niga or a Taels Niga? Why Blaze and Marine?
-Eggmen Naga's color scheme resembles Sage, so maybe he's HER descendant?
>both?
-but seriously what if Blaze's world was just future Sonic's world, like how Onyx Island is future Angel Island or (sometimes) Mobius is future Earth?
-I meant, time is another dimension lmao so this can also resolve the Classic dimension conflict rofl
>>534544997the story is collect the 7 chaos emeralds. again. then beat the large thing. as usual. unleashed's strength points are in the aesthetics.
>>534545002The IDW people want the comic to be "canon" because they want their content in the games and the rest of the franchise even though it's a detriment to the comic. It should just be set in a game-inspired universe and go crazy from there.
>>534545002>it had the capacity to be its own thing.At this point we really don't need more spinoff series.
>>534543584>let's talk about Shadow the Hedgehog (2005)Sonic treating Shadow like they're best friends during his amnesia episode is sweet and underappreciated.
It's no wonder they became so popular with women.
>>534545143shut up. canontard. I am sick of this safe restricted hellokitty. I want crazy hellokitty with wars and racism and a hellokitty that shoots the other hellokitty to death
>>534545282sonic is the wind
>>534545132>The IDW people want the comic to be "canon" because they want their content in the games and the rest of the franchise even though it's a detriment to the comic.You answered why they want this: they don't care about the comic itself. Just about the personal validation of the pipe dream of seeing OCs like Tangle & Whisper in little timmy's vidya. Then complaining they don't control what happens to them anymore.
You should have learned this from several twitter guys losing their OCs to Sega because they got too starstruck by the idea of being in "official media" as background characters.
>>534545132that was a demand back in the archie days too. but sega hates fun.
>>534545336Yeah that's alright.
>>534545401People don't want another Archie. They just want a game-centered comic that has its own unique adventures like the games instead of being glorified anime filler.
>>534545509>People(you)r word is not absolute
>>534545617>Archiefag still not getting over his comic being dead and forgotten.move on. Everyone else did.
>>534545682Move on to what? the new sonic media sucks.
>>534545773Fanfiction. Fancomics. Fangames.
>>534545853>moving to the reason official media suffocated
>>534545514I like this fucked-up Sally.
>>534546359The retroactive explaination never made any sense to me.
the official media will never be able to contend with your fanfiction
the official media will never be able to live up to your memories
sonic will never be good
I came into Archie after it was long gone, I grew to like the characters but I'm cool with it being dead. Gives it this rusty vibe I like.
>>534546963That's funny, I didn't like Archie even as a kid, I only kept up with it for the times when they actually adapted game stuff.
>>534545514>Even Sally is a WindfagAlright boys. Itโs time to pack it in.
>>534547143Not really, she says it in a negative way.
>>534547143Sally makes it pretty clear throughout the entire timeline of pre-reboot archie that she is directly at odds with Sonic's free spirited side. She wouldn't enjoy being around Windnic at all.
>>534547447She'd much prefer he'd be like Shadow.
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>>534546734Now this but as Pink Brunette Sally...
>>534547997Shadally gives me anxiety
Good morning sthg... Wait, why the last thread is 1000 posts? Why there's a barbarian invasion? And why it the bathroom on fire?
How do you even manage set a bathroom on fire???
>>534548058>How do you even manage set a bathroom on fire?>dont flush>wait several weeks>methane is produced due to decomposition>get a fire source
>>534548115It'd take too long to explain
>>534548341That is an unsatisfying answer.
WAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH I'M A FAGGOT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>"finally, archie is cancelled!"
>people still talk about it for the next 50 years
>>534548640GOOD shit lasts. people still talk about SA2 and Sonic 3
>Sonic going to be like Superman now where people fiercely debate his interpretation
Why can't we all just relax and enjoy the wind...
>>534548808Because some dumbasses always feel the need to railgrind against the wind.
>>534548640more like
>"finally, archie is cancelled!">remaining staff flock over to the idw saltmines and worm their way into soa's inner circle for the next 15 or so years, proving that archie was always meant to be a dead-end licensed fanfiction to contain these self-aggrandizing goofballs from stuff that matters
>>534542731>batyou mean 'cat'
>>534548640Well, not like we can't wipe its comics and SatAM like the Library of Alexandria.
>>534549054Comics are truly a mistake.
>>534549249That's ridiculous.
The only bunghole that Honey tongues is Mighty's.
It's kind of weird to be known as "that person who hates Shadally" but I still have 60 images of it saved (non-AIslop)
>>534545509>People don't want a Sonic comic that lasts almost 20+ yearsI think a lot of people, both in the fandom and working on the franchise, would love side media that expands the IP reach in ways that the games can't while also supporting the franchise finically, especially if it can play nice with what the games have established
Archie didn't always play nice with the game canon, but Sega and IDW were definitely looking at its stable success for Archie the publisher when they decided to commit to another Sonic comic
>>534549336It's weird you'd take the time to save images of things you hate.
>>534524363https://litter.catbox.moe/es1e2km00ps3ykec.mp4
So why do people say "the Boost Formula is here to stay" after Shadow Generations?
>>534549464>a lot of people would love side media that expands the IP reach in ways that the games can't while also supporting the franchise finically, especially if it can play nice with what the games have establishedIn theory, yes, but IDW has proven that's not a guaranteed success. If anything IDW has only done more harm than good.
>>534542731>>534548232If bat'd means getting cucked by Shadow and Knuckles, sure.
>>534549613see
>>534544764we need another Ken Penders basically. not talking about the lawsuit. am talking about that rich juicy wonder making autism
>>534549565Because Sega will look at its success and assume that the gameplay is what people want more of.
i like sonic the way it is
>>534549731Maybe if IDW last long enough it can get its own "janitor" that can put everything together and give IDW its golden age
>>534549468Well I don't hate it they just think I do
It's mid desu
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Who killed Tails in this picture?
Was it Honey, for making Tails' head spin?
Or was it Amy, who pulled a lightning-strike card?
Can (you) solve the mystery?
>>534549949>Who killed Tails in this picture?Inertia the Gravitational Force.
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>>534549814won't happen because there's not anything to work with. its been 7 years and the comic is still a nothing burger?
7 years into archie and we were having zonic the zone cop and inter dimensional travel. and that was when? at the end of the saturn drought and at the start of the adventure era
>>534549949I'm voting Amy, she looks uncharacteristically evil in this pic, whereas Honey looks more on-model than in Archie.
>>534549613Sega seems content with using IDW as a content mine for their side endeavors, and as long as IDW keeps paying for the license, thats all IDW really needs to be in their eyes
>>534549949That card is The Tower and it meant that Ray was going back in the vault like a good scrimblo.
Tails looks like he's been choked against the metal bar by the sheer G-forces.
>>534549505You are so fucking rascally
Shadria is the most based thing in the entire world
>>534549949In Memory of Tails you will always be rememberd by your family and friends R.I.P
>>534549949I just noticed she's also holding a skull card that can be identified as Death, but its design differs from the Hyudoro seen in Origins/Deck.
>>534550471Shadally's more fun.
>>534547340>>534547447I meant it in the sense that she acknowledges the reality of the Wind.
>>534550507You can't trick me. You're me falseflagging.
>>534550685Oh. Well if you meant it that way, Sally might very well be the first Windfag. She truly tasted wind!
She never forgets a dick taste.
>>534548058Itโs a long storyโฆ
>>534550586I disagree but...
nnnhghh...
*teeth grinding*
I...respect...your opinion...
>>534550136>won't happen because there's not anything to work with.That literally doesn't matter when you have a good writer with IDEAS.
>>534551038Ah some civility, what a nice change of pace.
>>534550951Explaining how I feel about this particular ship is complicated and confusing
>>534549814What needs to be cleaned up in IDW.
>Sonic and is redemption thing.>Uwuver: Keep, ignore, or compromise.>Tangle and Whisper's relationship. Give it chemistry.>Create a rogue gallery that was failed to be brought in with Starline (Dead), Mimic (Dead), Clutch (Eggbroken), Surge and Kit (redeemed), and Rouge & Tumble (gag characters).>Pick a lane with Surge's character and keep it consistent.>Either retire Belle or try to make her worth a damn.>Add some male hero OCs.>Add some OCs who are actually COOL.>Salvage Lanolin.>Get rid of the Restoration.>Move it away from the lesbian therapy session and Steven Universe tone.
>>534551547Or just break Tangle and Whisper up, let them be the characters they were actually designed to be.
>>534551547>How to fix IDW>Make it no longer IDWAnon youโre a genius
>>534551547>Rouge & Tumble (gag characters).
>>534551626Do you know how much backlash someone would get for doing that? It's not worth the shitstorm. Unless you can somehow calm the flames by pairing them up with other (female) characters, but that probably won't be enough.
>>534551547Also Anon you misspelt โRough and Tumbleโ as โRouge and Tumbleโ
>>534551812You don't have to make a whole event out of breaking Tangle and Whisper up, just have them actually do prolongued plots with other characters without one another.
>>534551787*Rough & Tumble.
>>534551547>>534551626>>534551812Wait but arenโt they not even officially a couple? I thought it was just something the writers have implied or leaned into but never explicitly confirmed?
>>534550465Nuh uh
https://litter.catbox.moe/18mugjneb8gw027f.mp4
>>534551984it's not explicit, but they're basically considered a couple to the writers and fandom.
>>534551984That's on you for thinking it meant romance. It means the fact the two never do anything without one another, aside from that one story that involved Whisper's Wisps stealing Jet's Calzone. Even just being friends is detrimental for those two.
https://x.com/KUshadsthehedge/status/1953963661938372643
>>534552130>Even just being friends is detrimental for those twoNo Comment
Ian has been on this franchise long enough to become the Nu-Penders and now we need a Nu-Ian to clean up his mess.
>>534552278if he had quit after archie he'd be seen as the hero who made archie more like the games
>>534552278I think that was Tyson Heese.
>>534552278>We need to keep supporting the cycle of Ouroboros
>>534552306And considered the best writer in the franchise. But IDW, his podcast, and his writing for the games completely soiled his rep.
>>534551787They made a good team, but honestly, Rough and Tumble have great synergy with anybody they're paired with
its funny the R&T have more interactions with Rouge than any other IDW character
>>534552425Who'd have guessed that Ian couldn't do good work outside of his comfort zone.
>>534552174>Iโm Super ShadowFuck yeah
>>534552438Rough and Tumble have probably interacted with more game characters than the girlboss OCs.
>>534552007Can you post Amy or are you jokey about that too
Nu-Ian would be a gamefag. They would be perfect for the games and game-adjacent media. But don't you EVER have them write stuff that's a completely different universe from the games.
>>534551984Whisper and Tangle's relationship status is in the same gray realm as Silver and Blaze's
>>534552605>Rough and Tumble have probably interacted with more game characters than the girlboss OCs.Based.
>>534552758Nah. Silver and Blaze have this "Wow, they once known each other once upon a time." thing going. Meanwhile, Tangle and Whisper have alphabet flag colors in the background while they're holding hands to tell you that they are GAY.
>>534552605>older characters have interacted with the cast more than newer characters
>>534546734Now this was definitely just supposed to be a joke about her design shifts but I wonder if callbacks like this fed into certain writers needing to explain shit that could just be answered in the fan letter section.
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>>534552918>"Newer" characters who are supposed to be on the same team as the canon hero cast.
>>534553012why is she from Switzerland?
>>534553084I love switzerland
>>534553040>"older" characters that are supposed to oppose the hero cast regularly
>>534552605Rough and Tumble are probably the best characters Ian made for IDW from a writing standpoint, purely from how accessible they are. they're super consistent characters with a strong gimmick that makes them hard to mess up even if a guest writing is tackling them. Not even Evan's take on them is as controversial as some of the other characters she has handled
>>534553146>Who appear less than the new hero OCs
Reminder Silver has never had a notable interaction with Eggman.
>>534553012Post Sonia from above
>>534553231They're like Team Rocket. Pretty hard to screw that up. They also can be humiliated or dismissed by the rest of the case because they're goofy bad guys. Not like the other OCs who we have to take super seriously because they're girls and cry or some shit.
>>534552174I got movie Shadow
>>534552918Lanolin is literally the oldest IDW character, appearing even before Tangle and she has not interacted with any of the members of Team Darkโข, Metal Sonic, Zavok or even the Egg Golum from SA2
Does Black Doom even know who Sonic is beyond that blue guy he had probably seen with Shadow?
>>534553567Now post up Maria's skirt
>>534553269They appear less than a character made specifically to be behind a desk and a character made to be a leader for their OCs. I think literally every single other OC has interacted with more characters than R&T either because they predate them or have bigger roles. Them being older and more flexible characters just seemed like a logical reason for that.
Mimic only had about one BRIEF interaction with Sonic as Duo (IIRC). Sonic himself had never actually met Mimic.
>>534553762Lanolin became a real character when they gave her a name, not when they put her in the background a few times.
>>534553952WHY DIDNT YOU GIVE HER A PANTY MODEL
>>534553952Ummmm this is a Sc...RPGfag L. Where are the bad girl panties?
>>534553976>Shadow having close friends after Maria diedOOC
>Shadow living permanently with RougeOOC
>Shadow being best friends/found family with Team DarkOOC
>Shadow venting his personal insecurities to anyone besides MariaOOC
>>534554172I accept defeat
>>534553913By "that" I mean the girl boss thing. Gomen.
>>534553482Team Rocket were a major pillar of the Pokemon anime, the original head writer allegedly sacrificed Misty and Brock to keep Team Rocket past the Johto seasons and as a result they've been following Ash for over 30 years
Good gag characters have staying power
Bring them back, dammit. Fuck the Restoration, we need the Guardian Units of Nations to come in and actually do something worth a damn.
>>534554537I respect that move but it caused qualitative damage to the hoenn and sinnoh series which both have over 200 identical episodes between them
>>534554279Canon Shadow seems like a boring loser with no life.
>>534554158I think I know why you won't post Sally
>>534554680The fact that the movies popularized to the masses, it makes zero sense why IDW haven't reintroduced them.
>>534554019While you're right, they could have and did have her interact with the game cast when she was BG character, likewise the comic seems to treat those background interactions a "canon"
>Have the people ever wondered why our world is so vulnerable to the Eggman menace? Why we are always at the brink of destruction or domination?! Having to often rely on CIVILLIANS to repel these various threats?!
>I'll tell you why! It's all because of those greedy trillionaires! The ultra-rich! They have a massive lobbying group in the government, they fund congress to pass laws that decrease G.U.N.'s funding since these companies profit off of the war economy that these threats provide. Even my close friend, the president, was in cohorts with these men.
>But no more. Today, I take control. G.U.N. will impose martial law and take over the world government. No more democracy. No more freedom. We are now a totalitarian state whose sole goal is the security and prosperity of the world against all hostile organizations, including Eggman, the Armada, and the various cults and mercenary factions bent on subverting the people! We're in charge now!
How does your ideal Sonic react?
>>534554885https://litter.catbox.moe/z2lm0qqbbjkjkufg.mp4
Good night
>>534538783 (OP)Where sonamy tho?
>>534555367At least it's a girlboss
>>534554906The games only brought them back in the tail end of last year, in a member berry game no less. We have to wait until Frontiers 2 to see if humans are fully back or not because they're still getting cucked from appearing in Crossworlds
>>534554906Movies take place in a different universe and have a different interpretation of GUN and the organization's relationship with Sonic from the games.
>>534549949>can fly under his own power>is an experienced pilot>somehow jobs to G-forcesHOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SUCK THIS HARD, PROWER? FUCK.
>>534555697Tails has always been particularly bad at flying
>>534555676Okay? But GUN exists in the games and IDW is in a game universe. So GUN should exist.
>>534555367WAIT I WANTED TO ASK WHAT THAT JAPANESE MUSIC YOU USE IS
>>534554906IDW isn't allowed to do shit unless Sega tells them otherwise.
That said, Rouge is currently working for a mysterious client that has an interest in cleaning up organized crime.
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>prime technically features five different human characters
>The movies are almost nothing but humans
>Shadow Manga has many humans
>Sage resembles a human
>Blade of Courage is entirely full of humans. Sonic is literally the only nonhuman
>IDW still I only features 2 humans after 9 years. A world record low. Every other Sonic series has shown at least 3 with the exception of Underground
Silver's knowledge of the future being exploited by GUN.
>>534551984The writers are on record (on Twitter, natch) for going "uuuu we would make them officially gay, but sega won't let us, we can only hint at it". One guy even called them queerbaiters.
>>534555806As with many things, we can blame Forces for that. Toyoda had them completely job offscreen in order to force the "Eggman takes over the world and Sonic is literally the only one who can save us" plot. G.U.N being around would make this shit way less plausible. But like, the wide influencing military force being utterly defeated offscreen throws suspension of disbelief out the window. Eggman is just as much o a mary sue as Sonic, really.
>>534556401>2 Eggman doesn't count according to Sega's schizo logic, and Maria has never actually been shown or mentioned in the comic. Who are you talking about?
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>>534555806I'm just saying that if/when GUN appears in the comics, they may not be used in the way the films use them
I have a feeling they may show up in the Shadow one-shot next year; SEGA is going over it with a fine-toothed comb and GUN has always been linked to Shadow, but time will tell
>>534553567Her boobs made underground unwatchable for me. Fan service is fine. But not with that voice.
Speaking of G.U.N, you now remember these incredible relics of the early 2000s.
>>534556468GUN is another casualty to the writing of Forces that wanted to make something cool and didn't care for the hows and whys
>>534557002Oh wow, right! I straight up forgot there was a Tails' Sky Patrol special. I'm surprised Sega actually allowed anyone to acknowledge that Tails has his own rogues gallery. Or a life outside of being Sonic's cocksleeve.
Although, didn't this special make people really mad because Tails still managed to be a huge jobber who needed Sonic to bail him out? I didn't read it.
>>534556907I miss it.
I miss it a lot.
>>534557352There's things in this post that didn't need to be spoken
>>534556785Wasn't this comic supposed to come out a LONG ASS time ago? Talk about striking when the iron is ice cold
>>534557352The Archie version of her annoys me because Ian just had to go and make her related to Ixis Naugus.
I'm all for Archie characters being changed to suit the games but this is literally the opposite thing.
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>>534557382Right? This is why Sega's sanitizing campaign sucks. Forcing homogeneity onto the franchise means we never get goofy fun shit anymore. No more X-TREME soldiers right out of an early Image book, no more hot bitchy catgirls, no more bird nazis. Everything has t be bland and safe.
>>534557751>No more X-TREME soldiers right out of an early Image book,Movies
On the subject of GUN, what's their appeal?
their introduction only served to give Eggman some "badniks" to shoot in SA2 and as a result the militarism they introduced to the series always felt redundant when Eggman started to get armies for himself. The series never seemed too interested in the implied politics of the organization as it quickly squashed the "shady government agency" thing they had going on with Shad05, now they are unmistakably good guys.
Sonic's also more likely to work with GUN if they show up in a story nowadays which doesn't seem too different from Sonic working for the Acorn Family
Is the appeal just seeing serious military dudes with semi-realistic guns standing next to colorful furry dwarves?
>>534557751>no more bird nazis.Longclaw
>>534557875Nah, they're normal looking modern soldiers. Parmount-verse doesn't have Paladin teams.
>>534557986>Is the appeal just seeing serious military dudes with semi-realistic guns standing next to colorful furry dwarves?... Kinda, yeah. Sonic is supposed to operate on rule of cool, right? Military shit is dope, bro.
>>534557602Wtf is wrong with autists?
>>534557602It really can't be understated how granular ST is with Shadow especially not the Movie 3 has put him in the spotlight, every non-Sega writer has spoken about this
>>534555154>How does your ideal Sonic react?Exactly like SA2 Sonic. He's already defied the government in the name of freedom.
>>534557986What
>>534558197 said. Military makes for cool boss fights and setpieces - like in Sonic Rush when Eggman takes over a GUN battleship, or causing 3 way fights in Shad05.
>>534558421...was an inorganic forced meme ship that died as soon as duofag stopped posting it
>>534558384>My ideal Sonic is bland mascotnicWow...
>>534558485So is Shadria when krack isnt around
I don't care for GUN, they're just a stand-in for law enforcement. I think I would care if there was a field agent like Topaz. Or perhaps a mech pilot.
>>534557751The is the price we paid for having a more unified franchise.
>>534558334It really stings that we didn't get an IDW tie in comic for Sonic 3. The Sonic 2 tie comic was great.
>>534558848Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
G.U.N also makes the world feel more substantial. Having other people besides our main heroes out there fighting the good fight is logical and interesting. Like, the rest of the world exists when we're not looking at it. That's just basic good worldbuilding.
>>534558676>I think I would care if there was a field agent like Topaz.G.U.N also allows for interesting characters and dynamics. Bring her back, Sega. You fucking cowards!
>>534555154He doesnโt because this very ooc for the commander.
>>534559057I think W*ndfags have a very strange definition for "OOC". Like, if a character never did something, and then he does it, is that OOC?
So Sonic eating a nacho is OOC?
Like, do you not understand that a character can remain consistent while acting differently from how they acted before, since the circumstances are different?
So if Sonic is put in a situation he's never been in before, and thus, acts in a way he's never acted before, how is that OOC?
>>534558817Having a unified franchise is fucking stupid in the first place. Literally what is the point of a multi-media IP if everything is just gonna be the same all the time? Yes, certain core elements are important, but letting people give their varied takes on the material is, I would argue, vital to long term viability.
>>534555154>Sheesh. Talk about overworked. A guy like that really needs more vacation days.>Well, alright. If they wanna work their frustrations out, I'll keep him and the army company - been a while since I tango'd with them, actually! This could be fun!>Tails! Let's go fire up the Tornado - we got a White House to visit and a Commander-in-Chief to drop in on!
>>534559204Iโm not even that much a windfag. but abe, while shown to take drastic measures if need be, respects the people of the federation and democracy. He would not overthrow the government ala the fashion anon is suggesting, if anything I feel he would use more covert means of eliminating the corrupt elite who are allowing eggman to run rampant.
>>534558558>SA2 Sonic is bland nowJesus Christ what happened here
>>534559387I keep forgetting Sonic & co have just casually becomes friends with the President.
>>534558435I don't know, Eggman already fills the military-niche GUN attempts to fill, the only difference between a GUN hunter and an Eggrobo is the logo they use; and almost every Modern Sonic game is a 3-way fight, admittedly without the benefit Shad05 had of being able to choose which side to fight
I think GUN can only really work in a X or Movie-verse setting, where Sonic is explicitly an alien that the world isn't used to, but Mr. The-President's-My-Best-Friend SegaSonic, I feel saps the potential of the organization and pushes Gamenic closer to government stooge Archienic
>>534559525SA2 was probably the last time Sonic was allowed to be a real character. The Mascot With Attitude era died with Heroes, and its corpse molested with that line about guns from Shadow's game.
>>534559518I'm glad you dodged my question and basically conceded the whole point about the usage of "OOC".
Onto your point, you're just saying "the circumstances would be different". No, he can't sneakily kill the ultra-rich because otherwise, that would happen in real life as well, which it doesn't, because the ultra-rich have safeguards. You're just dodging the question.
>>534559525Anon must be confusing him with Meta era Sonic who is so windy that by Forces he becomes a walking muppet parodying what people think Sonic is
Wtf is Eggfag's problem? Why do you spend hours arguing against an established characterization for a mascot character? Do you want Mario to stop speaking in an accent too?
>>534559703>Eggman already fills the military-niche GUN attempts to fill,1) That's not true, because G.U.N has a more traditional military aesthetic and M.O, whereas Eggman is a goofy supervillain.
2) G.U.N are more or less good guys who are more pragmatic and willing to get dirty, meaning they do fill a unique niche.
3) This "redundancy" autism is stupid bullshit that only you care about.
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>>5345598411. Eggchad sama, we donโt event know if the rich in Sonicโs world have the same safeguards or not, Iโm just going off what we know Abe is willing to do. Especially post shad05
As for Sonicโs reaction? I assume similar to
>>534559387 or so, goes to stop commander tower form doing something stupid and fights whoever is escalating the situation.
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>>534559926Good morning. Do you think Amy would ever join G.U.N? She's already been involved in multiple paramilitary organizations, and often in leadership positions.
I'm not counting that nonsense where she quits the Restoration in IDW, cause that was a dumb cop out caused by bitchy fanboys.
>>534558994>Having other people besides our main heroes out there fighting the good fight is logical and interestingThe GUNfag yearns for Sonic to embrace copaganda; he needs Sonic to be a GUN recruitment agent because GUN enlistment numbers tanked after they botched the Eggman War
Sonic wouldn't fall for it, so you shouldn't either
>>534560291G.U.N being around also means more Rouge screentime, since she's heavily associated with them. And more Rouge is always a good thing.
>>534560371>Amy quitting the restoration is caused by bitchy fanboys>Amy should join GUNYou're a tumor
>>534559703I disagree. Eggman's thing is more industrial and theatrical in most cases - you don't see the aesthetic of, say, Metal Harbor or GUN Fortress in places like Eggmanland or Lava Shelter.
Moreover, they're good for giving a bit of perspective for the world about how nuts our main cast is; maybe the soldiers aren't capable of outright going toe-to-toe with big baddies, but they're still scrappy enough to try and do what they can while keep civilians out of the way in a manner that fits them better than groups like the Restoration. They can butt heads over ways of doing things that assentuate that Sonic's living by his own rules despite the heart of gold without needing a designated "contrarian" like Sally or Lanolin (though a representative member of the organization do the role with actual teeth as an "ally, but not quite a friend"). Like I said, cool setpieces and boss fight potential.
Hell, it's proven they're flexible enough that they don't have to take center stage, but can still be felt in a supporting role: providing Shadow with intel and support throughout 06, for instance.
>>534560128>>534559387>1. Eggchad sama, we donโt event know if the rich in Sonicโs world have the same safeguards or notCorrect, which is why you shouldn't assume they don't. My hypothetical specifically implies that's the most logical way to go about things, at least in Abe's eyes.
>Iโm just going off what we know Abe is willing to do.Except you don't know that, since Abe has never been in that situation before. Again with the wrong interpretation of "OOC"
Say, do you think that if Tails died right in front of Sonic, it would be OOC for him to cry even in front of others? Say Yes or No.
>goes to stop commander tower form doing something stupid>>Sheesh. Talk about overworked. A guy like that really needs more vacation days.Cool. So now Sonic is considered an enemy of the state. Let's assume he isn't overwhelmed by GUN's might. GUN, which controls the entire infrastructure, hurts from Sonic's destruction. The drain on the military that Sonic is creating makes other sectors like energy and food get less support. The quality of life decreases and while the people might not like GUN's actions, they definitely don't like Sonic's rash and unprompted defiance. There might come a point when GUN starts forcefully conscripting people to fight Sonic, and while all of this is happening, there is STILL the threat of Eggman, the Armada, and others taking advantage of the in-fighting and crushing both Sonic and GUN.
Having that in mind, what does Sonic do next? Or maybe you'd like to change your answer?
>>534560734I never said she should, I was asking if she would. I'm not falling for your blatant shitstirring. You do realize you can just talk about stuff without trying to force it to be a fight, yes?
>>534560371I am not familiar with how she is portrayed in IDW and I don't think she would join G.U.N since to me she kinda mostly takes stuff in her own hands but it would be funny if she did. A cop gear amy sounds cute to me.
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>>534560069I'm not gonna enlist Topaz, my life isn't worth a Chaos Emerald
I get what you're saying, I just feel GUN only really meets their full potential with a character like Shadow or Movie Sonic, characters whose morality are less straightforward, Sonic has been mascot-coded since Heroes and can't really engage in all the interesting things GUN can offer
>>534560639Yea I guess, do more Rouge boob grope please?
>>534560417>>Having other people besides our main heroes out there fighting the good fight is logical and interestingYeah!
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>>534560947Amy's tasteful pussy lips
>>534560920Alright man you clearly donโt want my answer and just wanna prove your point, Iโm thankful for you thinking this all through but based on your response you just wanna own windfalls, which, valid I guess. What do YOU think he should do?
>>534560994If Sega had any balls, G.U.N could easily be a sort of rival faction. They oppose Eggman, but also don't put up with Sonic's bullshit. And Sonic, while recognizing the good they do, is still very much fuck the police. I mean they're already a blatant expy of S.H.I.E.L.D, so you might as well go all in on that.
I can't wait to see the same garbage tomorrow
>>534561196Don't care retard
>>534561196Can you guys draw less OCs? Nobody wants to see them okay?
>>534561332>is still very much fuck the policeOOC
The wind is the police
>>534561571but you're the host
>>534559204Sparky's not here so I'll bother you. If you know and understand a characters' traits, likes, and dislikes, you can get a good feel for how they'd react in certain scenarios. Sonic eating a nacho isn't OOC because there's nothing out there that implies he dislikes nachos or any of the ingredients. One could even argue that it's likely that Sonic enjoys nachos from the way he enjoys similar foods like chili dogs and pizza or other slop. I don't know why I'm even having to explain to this concept to an adult, I feel like you're being purposely obtuse to lean into some villainous namefag persona.
>do you not understand that a character can remain consistent while acting differently from how they acted before, since the circumstances are different?Different in a way *that matters*, a difference major enough to explain the change in behavior. And even then, Sonic has a pretty unshakable will, he can brush off things that would traumatize normal people so you have to keep that in mind. Sonic stopping to have some realistic insecure panic attack in the middle of a tough situation is OOC because we see him in other tough situations and that doesn't happen. We've seen him go through far worse, so why would he falter at something easier? What circumstance could explain that? I'm struggling to think of one outside of things an e10+ franchise would never allow.
>>534559759Sonic in SA2 breaks out of jail, evades arrest, destroys government property, and doesn't like the cops.
Oh, and he has Tails casually hack the Presidents Limo, so they can fight Eggman on their own terms.
Our heroes reject authority!
>Sonic is like The Wind and represent freedom!
>he allies himself with the government
>he believes in a enforces traditional morality
So how is he any different from the usual cuckservative again?
>>534562209He's a chadservative but he hates israel and jews. This is because Sonic is hero and heroes all think like I do.
>>534561196Thanks and have fun
>>534562327Stop shilling your shitboard, just call your twitter friends lol
>>534561196Do your best!! Draw amy if you can too
>>534562319>no trust me bros, weed and porn should be banned because they're harmful to society >also LGBTQ+ people should be either killed or tortured back to being heteronormative >and brown people should be deported Where is the Freedom again?
>>534562123Iโm kind of in the middle of the road here, I could see Sonic taking a breather at least, not a full panic attack.
>>534562209Typical libertarians shooting themselves kn the foot.
>>534562440Dawg we are ALL losing rn.
>>534562498Theyโll just draw ocs, Espio, boring cats, and Mina again, like theyโve been doing for the past two or three years.
>>534562197>picI love how it's fucking Amy of all people who says that. Oh sure, she seems like a law abiding local businesswoman, but she don't talk to the cops.
>>534562696Ducly but she has a fat as fuck ass.
>>534562696Reboot Dulcy a cute. CUTE!
... You think Xan still exists in this iteration? Is this Dulcy still an abuse survivor?
>>534562859She just needs the lines under her eyes and green eyes and sheโs golden.
>>534562448What are you talking about?
>>534562859>sovl>soulless
>>534562575>Restricted access >Fine with gays, ban lying about your gender>Come here legally or go backSounds free and reasonable to me
>>534562908Given her jumpy nature, Iโd say yeah, but PARAGONic put an end to that easily.
>>534562859Hot MILF woof!
>>534563026The issue is they arenโt doing just that anon their actively fucking society over and being more dictatorial
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>>534562575nobody gaf nigger
>>534563048>Sonic murdered his friend's abusive boyfriendHonestly? Kinda based.
>>534562678>>534562197It's like night and day comparing to bland Nuamy.
>>534563026>Come here legally or go backThe us immigration system is notoriously fucked, anon. But fixing it would be too hard and, god forbid, expensive. So itโs easier to just become more facist. Sorry!
You ever notice that any time the thread is actually being kinda chill, there's always some cunt who actively tries to start shit by bringing up inflammatory topics?
>>534563168Wow, so just like the left since 2017. Not so great on the losing side of things huh?
>>534563434Can you even explain how? Granted both sides of this current two party system are fucked in their own ways but I wanna know if you have actual complaints or just stupid.
>>534563385That's like sthg all the time.
>>534561332This anon
>>534561570 is right, Sonic being anti-authority is a Western exaggeration of Japanese Sonic's dislike of oppression
In Segasonic, all cops and military personnel are legitimate if sometimes misguided, Sonic will never going to go against legitimate cops, and police and military force will only be set dressing to establish whatever stakes the game wants the present
In Sonic, the cops and the military will always be affable, if ineffectual, good guys
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>>534563168>wahhh wahhh the side we wanted to jail for thoughtcrimes is more strict now that reason failed to worklmao, should have shut the fuck up years ago
>Elise and Blaze are almost the same character
>they never once interact
You ever sit back and just think about how shit Sonic 06 is? It's like Metroid Other M, it keeps finding new ways to suck absolute swamp ass.
>>534561310Uhh, no? I just want to hear people's thoughts on how Sonic would handle a complex and non-black-and-white situation, as that's the type of thing he has never dealt with before, and thus, is perfect for a character arc where his flaws are put in the spotlight. I'm actually glad you tried to engage with he hypothetical.
Me? I don't know exactly what he would do. My headcanon arc has a similar situation, but it implies Sonic having flaws and going through development. Really, maybe this IS just a way to challenge W*ndfags by showing them their W*ndnic can't solve every situation, but I also did want to get outside opinion. Sorry if I sounded pretentious.
>>534562123>If you know and understand a characters' traits, likes, and dislikes, you can get a good feel for how they'd react in certain scenariosYeah, but that's still just an inference. You don't actually KNOW if he eats Nachos or not. You're just making up a headcanon in your head and trying to justify it with what "would fit him". And that's fine, but that just adds to my point that the whole "OOC" shit is dumb, because if you can say you have a "feel" he wouldn't do this based on such-and-such reason, then I can do the same thing, and it could be equally as valid. For example, Sonic is a teenage skater "screw responsibilities" cool dude, so his smoking a cigarette wouldn't be OOC, right?
>And even then, Sonic has a pretty unshakable will, he can brush off things that would traumatize normal peopleSure, but he could still have weaknesses. It's a common trope with superheroes that they can risk their lives but can't handle romance or whatever.
>I'm struggling to think of one outside of things an e10+ franchise would never allow.Sonic is usually strong, useful, and considered the voice of reason by his friends.
If he is beat up, a liability, and his friends think he's wrong, is it still OOC for him to crash out at them?
>>534562662Well, it doesn't hurt to try
>>534561570>windfags are bootlickersLost all credibility
>>534563296>we need more brown people because...>we just do, okay?!yeah nah you want to disenfranchise the native population of every white country because you hate the idea of a nation and think countries are mere economic zones and that real communism has never been tried before but it's not genocide because they're white so it's a not happening but if it was it's a Good Thing.
>>534563220Just like the goat punkrocker.
>>534563694How is that at all surprising? They keep insisting that Sega's grand vision is immutable and not ever to be questioned.
>>534560920>Having that in mind, what does Sonic do next? Or maybe you'd like to change your answer?>You can count on Eggman to spice anything up, huh?>The Commander starting to drag ordinary people into this was one thing, but the raids on farms? That Kukku bombing run at the Power Plant? The timing couldn't be worse, Sonic! The city could riot!>Figured Ivory Tower up there would wanna keep guys on the street out of this. Not that he's willing to sit down for a talk - even with the one elected guy he usually has to.>...Funny how all our enemies are acting up at once.>Eh?>I have a hunch what's really going on. But I can't investigate this easily now that we're wanted...>...but we're not considered equally wanted, are we?>Exactly. Sonic, I'll give you a number of hot spots. If the world's eyes are on you, I can get our friends involved so we can cover more ground.>Heh! Bust some bots and jet before the jarheads even know what blew past - piece of cake! I can buy your days of time!>Thanks, Sonic. I'll be bunkering down at the warehouse. First thing I gotta do is hack GUN's records to see if they've been keeping tabs on Amy and the others. And then, seeing if I can't get "Agent" Rouge to give us a hand...
>>534562197>>534562678This line was probably included because the SA2 dev team working in America were annoyed by the San Fransisco parking attendants giving them tickets all the time
>>534563646God forbid we ask people not be assholes to one another. Iโm sorry you got assblasted online by some twitter shitlib but thatโs no excuse to fucking jump for joy at our freedoms being yoinked away.
>>534563726Okay so youโre just fucking retarded or baiting.
>you want to disenfranchise the native population of every white country because (Assuming)No you faggot. This country has always been a melting pot and more people coming over will help strengthen our society and economic output as well as culturally despite what the elites who make money off our infighting will tell you.
>that real communism has never been tried beforeNot it has, itโs just a flawed system because itโs doing the exact same thing as capitalism except instead of private property itโs state owned and thus putting power in the hands of the few again.
>it's not genocide because they're white so it's a not happening but if it was it's a Good Thing.Where the fuck did I even mention white genocide? Stop being such a schizo and take your meds or go back to /pol/. Discuss Sonic for the love of god.
>>534564250just report and ignore
>>534564205Bro what the Frick man?!
>>534563985You would think since the entire point of the โwindโ revolves around freedom, but no turns out theyโre just retarded cuckservatives too stupid to realize they actively contradict themselves
>Dumbass gets assblasted
>Starts spamming gore
Every time. How far the once mighty have fallen.
>>534564125If anything, I admire your dedication to the bit.
>>534559387>>534564125I wanna play "Sonic Guerillas".
>>534564125This wouldโve been a better Nine design
>>534563662You're demonstrating the exact lack of concientiousness that ruined '06 in the first place.
>>534564262>Discuss Sonic for the love of god.This. The thread was actually pretty nice for once, and then this asshole showed up to start shit. Fucks sake.
When are Rouge and Jewel going to meet? Or did Sega disallow it cause that would be too lewd?
>Windfags now are nothing but retarded cuckservative attention whores seething at all the little trans people running around in their fandom and spam gore when they donโt get their way.
Grim. Please stop shitting up the thread for attention.
>>534564560Not games, but SatAM and especially early Archie are basically that.
>>534564473which anon got assblasted? I didn't pay attention
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>Mr. President! Station Square has been flooded by a water monster! Should we evacuate?
>NO! Send 1 billion dollars to the Eggman Empire, our greatest ally!
>>534564872One of the ones that hates this place.
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>Mr. President! There are tree aliens invading the city! Should we evacuate?
>NO! Send 2 billion dollars to the Eggman Empire, our greatest ally!
>>534564262>melting potNot it hasn't, that's revisionism. The Irish and Italians were hated. Besides your rhetoric is out of date, nobody talks about the "melting pot" anymore it's all about "multiculturalism" because the left are anti-American now. These people set up ethnic enclaves, never learn the language, vote along racial lines, etc.
>strengthen our society>culturallyImmigrants lower wages, commit crime, and turn our society into a low trust shithole. Multiculturalism has objectively failed.
>the eliteThe elites are leftist academics from Ivy League schools who sympathize with you.
>white genocideYou want to disenfranchise whites because you don't believe in the concept of a nation and think their racial identity is inconvenient for your political project.
>>534565074Uh.. fair enough
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>Mr. President! Westopolis is being destroyed by black alien creatures, and there is a giant comet headed towards the earth! Should we call in the military?
>NO! Send 3 billion dollars to the Eggman Empire, our greatest ally!
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>Mr. President! Eggman has taken over the central government office and kidnapped your daughter! He also plans to destroy the world so him and his daughter can have some weird Adam and Eve fantasy! Do we call Sonic for help?
>NO! Send 4 billion dollars to the Eggman Empire, our greatest ally!
>>534564726In fairness, those guys are kinda worth seething over. Trans Sonic Fans tend to be among the more obnoxious ones that have obviously schizo headcanons that they won't let brook criticism against, in my opinion.
I swear Sonic has the shittiest lore
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>Mr. President! Breezy Media is saying you're a rapist! They also say you're in the Dodon Pa Island client list! Do we prosecute them for slander?
>Yes! Shut them down! Then send 5 billion dollars to the Eggman Empire, our greatest ally!
Sonic supports local law enforcement, police, and fire fighters.
Sonic supports the president and poses near the white house.
Sonic supports several different royal princesses or monarchs.
So was Amanda meant to be Abe's offscreen kid that he mentioned in Shad05?
>>534565751The problem with Sonic is it's all lore, but no worldbuilding
>>534566012>all lore, but no worldbuildingMaybe what Sonic needs is a tabletop RPG...
Good morning.
Hope you guys had a swell day.
>>534564726I just arrived here, the hell happened?
>>534565973The mother of his grandchild? That sounds like a possibility.
>>534545094>if Eggmen Naga exists then why isn't there a Sonec NigaSilver is Sonic Nega. He goes slow instead of fast.
>>534566291a faggot got triggered over sonic being a cop and had a melty because sonic is supposed to side with violent criminals
>>534565903I hate to be the windfag, but Sonic is not an anarchist, he just doesn't get involved in politics and helps them on ocassion if it is for a good cause.
That is a Goku trait.
>>534566443He took the "Sonic is free" thing too literally. Sonic is no anarchist, he is just someone who is above politics and, if the authorities want to help, he lends a hand.
It's a shonen hero trait, like Goku, but its also how Spider-man operates I think.
>>534538783 (OP)There's nothing really tanabata about Shadow and Marine.
>>534566960Shadrinefags...
>windfags twisting their own headcanons to fit their politics
Never listen to these retards again
Abe has an interesting relationship with his children.
>>534566960Sonic Team disagrees.
>>534567149I never take them seriously because I know they aren't very smart, two of the most prominent windfags here are autistic, unemployed and one dropped out of middle school.
>>534567196God I love JoeAdok.
>>534566475I know, but there's an influx of people who seem to believe Sonic has a fixed stance on modern-day political issues when he doesn't. Sonic doesn't take a side in politics and he will befriend anyone so long as they aren't preventing him from running free or endangering innocent lives. And no, running free and saving innocents isn't strictly a left/right thing. Sonic values everybody, not just one specific group.
>>534567196Ok I don't mind giving him an anthro grandchild, but why the heck is he a Tails recolor?
>>534567149You're just wrapped up around the environmentalism and freedom themes because you're retarded.
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>>534567406He's from IDW, Anon.
>>534567406Self insert slop
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>>534567406IDW bg character who happens to look like the Commander
>>534567392American politics have poisoned the mindset of a lot of these anons.
>>534567635>>534567589I personally enjoyed the Bear out of the racing crowd.
So we all agree that when G.U.N returns, they should have both human and mobian members, yes?
>>534567285Same.
>>534567406That's his son, actually. JoeAdok is based and believes in interbreeding.
>>534567462Nigga thatโs the ENTIRE point of the โwindโ
>>534567589OOooh, ok ok, a background character. I forgot about this little dude.
The guy with the red jacket looks cool tho
>>534566960The reason they made Maria read Shadow the story of Tanabata, which features two lovers (one mortal and one immortal) separated forever by the stars, was obviously to show the viewer that Shadow and Maria do not have a Tanabata-like relationship.
>>534567698>That's his son, actually. JoeAdok is based and believes in interbreeding.Based
>>534567589>>534567635Word? I thought he was the artist's OC. Oh that rules, actually. He really does look like he could be Abe's son. That's amazing, and I hope it was on purpose.
>>534567698>Rouge NaylorJay???
>>534567707The wind is more like shintoism than liberalism.
>>534567786>>534567692He does look rad, yeah.
>>534567698>So we all agree that when G.U.N returns, they should have both human and mobian members, yes?Should they? Yes.
Would they? Unlikely.
>>534568056>Jay NaylorDamn. That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Pretty sure Naylor here is a reference to her scrapped "Nails" name.
>>534567698>>534567897Imagine having a blobian wife. Imagine having that size difference,
>>534567962You know it is cool the artists are allowed to share their ocs (and appearently some reader's) as background characters, but this just worries me they could be giving them to Sega by mistake.
I don't know how copyright works in there. At least when Evan put her ocs she recolored them, some of these fellas just put the cameos without change.
>>534567897I was about to post that. Sara's mom a cute!
>>534567149Oh, but it's okay when trannies shove their pedophile flags on him though right? Fag. You need to go back.
>>534567196>>534567285He's the ultimate everythingfag. Fire Ian and hire this nigga.
>>534568113>shintoismI donโt even know what that is. Iโm now convinced windfags are just politically brainrotted husks
Cool, I can now generate shitty cats.
>>534567589>>534567635These NPCs are the best. I brook no argument.
>>534568247No? I never said that? Again, politically brainrotted husks the lot of you
>>534568131It'd be like falling in love with a plush toy. Sounds comfy as fuck, honestly.
>>534567698Oh, so he is like AWF and likes crossbreeding.
I'm not fond of that, but you do you.
>>534568247You're advocating against your own positions by being a dickhead.
>>534549949Non of the above.
It's the green Flicky.
Green Flicky's the murderer
JoeAdok is the guy who hears the word 'canon' and goes "Fuck you, it's ALL valid. ALL OF IT.".
>>534568281i'm not listening to any ideology that cannot function without lying and strict censorship sorry anon-kun
>>534568632He sounds like my kind of guy.
Also, he drew Yuuta. First person who does anything about that manga that isn't getting into circlejerks about Sonic's personality.
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>>534568632Whoa, I didn't know he drew Yuuta. He's so cool.
>>534568854What did Sonic do to you?
>>534568707Thatโs most ideologies including conservatism
>>534568281It's the indigenous religion of Japan. Have you never consumed a piece of Japanese media in your entire life? Did all these gates and shrines and shit just fly right over your head? Shintoism informs so much about the franchise. Sonic is comparable to their nature spirits, and Blaze is compared to a shrine maiden.
>>534567874Sonic fans cannot read. The anon said Shadow and Marine.
>>534569061Anti-windfags are unintelligent cultureless obese mentally ill diaperfags
>>534569061No because Iโm not a weeb cuck
>>534568281How do you not know what Shintoism is? You must be a white woman if you're this insular and still think you know better.
>>534569223>I'm not a weeb cuck
>>534568632>An Ancient (Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric) with a Feather Sword >The Three Musketeers of Soleanna (mentioned in passing, artist's rendition)>An old man wielding the Samurai Blade (Shadow the Hedgehog 2005.)>Inigo Cortez the Badger>Knights of the Round (Archie ver)>Antoine D'Coolette>Sally Acorn>Elias Acorn>Sir Connery>Heavy Shinobi>Yuuta (+ mural depicting the Blade of Courage)
>>534569413You think everyone who uses this site only does so because theyโre obsessed with Jap culture? The fuck?
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>>534569223anime website
weeb website
japanese franchise
Yo, what if the Zone Cops were actually cool and not a bunch of jobbers?
>>534569642This is a site dedicated specifically to discussion of Japanese culture. If you can't understand that you'd be better off back on reddit or whatever other shithole you came from because you clearly don't belong here.
>>534557664I would understand that but frankly the Witchkarters are characters with nothing to them, so I'm not surprised he felt like tying her to another established character.
Makes things easier.
>>534569642They probably think that people solely use youtube for vlog diaries.
>>534569642This is a website by and for weeks and owned by Jap.
>>534569905>Halflidshit even doe Moviedow doesn't do halflidshitThe cancer is spreading. It's not enough to make his facial expressions relatable, they need to infect him with halflidism.
>>5345698404chan started as a weeb site, yet it has multiple sub boards about non-Japanese things, so by this token, you are mistaken, anon.
>>534569840People post here because they can talk about whatever interest they have (not exclusive to Japan btw) anonymously. Thatโs the reality. If thatโs not what the original founders had in mind then too fuckin bad
>>534569596And Infinite's Sword, Joe definitely does his homework a real standout of a fan artists
Sonic The Hedgehog but I Wanna Be The Guy
>>534569905Imagine losing a debate to a literal pedophile lol. Can't belive people still care what this gressy weirdo has to say
Sonic
>>534570103Stupid fucking retard cat gimme that youโre cut off
>>534570140you're on a website using a japanese word as a name that was made to discuss japanese topics and is currently owned by a japanese person, and you're in a thread with japanese fanart of japanese characters from a japanese franchise created by japanese people. of course i'm going to call you retarded for being anti-japanese here.
>>534569210>culturelessIt's not just anti-windfags, most atheist westerners are so fucking ignorant; literally all they know is WWII. It's no surprise shit like Deltarune and Amazing Digital Circus, and mascot horror is so popular; it's fiction about fiction.
>>534570541Outdated. Rouge is flat and Amy is tubby now.
>anons just got baited into a pointless argument
>>534570845shut up and post more pictures of movie shadow looking cute
>>534570692>using a japanese word as a nameNta. The "chan" part comes from "channel," and 4chan is a play on the word "fortune," hence the clover.
>>534556401My guess is because humans have never been popular with the fanbase. Only Maria does withing the game canon. The community always gravitated more towards the anthros, and because many of the IDW artists find themselves more comfortable with the funny animals, it just stuck like that.
For as great as JoeAdok's art is, it makes me sad, in a way. Literally why can't we have this officially? Why does this franchise have to act like it's so ashamed of itself?
We've had the Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog.
Now we need the Rape of Miles "Tails" Prower.
>>534571138Why wouldn't it be ashamed of itself?
>>534570541Women don't have breast envy.
It's the same logic as men having penis size envy. The whole idea is rooted in cuckoldery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPQPeXKXV_8
>>534565963Hey, it's Run-DMC! I love those guys!
>>534571394Cute. Based everythingfag.
>>534571572When you look at a guy is the first thought in your head "Wow I wonder if his penis is smaller/bigger than mine"?
>>534570656OHH MI GOSHHHH SO CUTE! <3 (ยดโฝ`)
5 years and the only thing the games incorporated from the movies is the lightning effect
>>534571653Unironically how racism started
Locke having a bit of a 'chidna moment here.
>>534571653Well, not the penis, but I can feel jealous about his muscles.
>>534570656>>534571802silvaze is such fucking slop
>>534571868>>534571889You're shitposting right now. You can't be serious. I refuse to believe you're so porn brained that you think about other men's dick when out in public.
>>534571138I'm glad Joeadok's world isn't canon. I unironically hate it. His art is good and I respect the dedication, but it takes all the magic out of Sonic for me. It's everythingfaggotry that gets praised for the sake of being everythingfaggotry and nothing else. It's the same mindset that caused Ian's obsession with bringing back and reinventing previously-obscure Classic characters like Honey/Battle Kukkus/Bean/Fang etc.
>>534571936Yes, but only because Silver and Blaze themselves are slop
>>534572016Holy fuark Evan looks like THAT?
SEXOOOOOO
>>534571483This is false, women do experience breast envy, just not in the gay way it's portrayed in hentai
>Whisper in Fortune cosplay
>Mina doing a hot wings challenge
>nerb acrobats
I like JoeAdok because he reminds me that fun exists.
You know what annoys me? 'Hidden tracks' in albums, where a song finishes and then there's like two minutes' silence and whoop, there it is, hidden track.
>>534572016I never said I did, just that thatโs why white men hate black men
>>534572228I have never heard of a women actually having breast envy outside of very extreme cases where the women has macromastia or has basically none at all. 99% of the time it's the female equivalent of when men are shooting the shit and joking about how big/small their dick is.
>>534572596currently assembling a Crazy Taxi playlist, and of course Change the World from Ixnay on the Hombre has a joke at the end after a few minutes' silence
>>534572447>BBC porn addict going mask off
>windfags, unsurprisingly hate everythingchaddery
Ironic. Despite proclaiming to care about the theme of freedom, you instead demand a sterile world that adheres to a strict and narrow status quo.
>>534572539Some women do. Although it is true is mostly men who focus on that.
Men writing women, that's a subreddit I think.
>>534572768I just thought it was them going "Stop liking what I don't like!", because they are still suffering from their games being called crap by game reviewers, so they jump to insult every other Sonic fan as a response.
>>534572819Which is worse.
Men writing women or women writing men?
>>534573002definitely the former
>>534569818Shouldn't it be the other way around? How would a mobian woman give birth to a human baby?
Imagine being a windfag, couldnโt be me.
>>534572079Have fun with your boring ass mascot shit, retard.
>>534573098They're born tiny and grow fast.
>>534573002Fairy Tail or Fullmetal Alchemist.
On the other hand, men have written porn slop with no heart, and women write porn with heart but with the men being pussies and losing their personality
Both, I'll say both.
Get a load of these nerds.
Older Hope and Tekno got me acting the fuck up a little bit, not gonna lie.
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>>534573002The answer is obvious.
>>534573421I didn't notice that was Hope at first. She looks a lot like Madonna.
>>534572079Ian has the soul of a wikigremlin, understanding nothing but dissecting it anyway so it can be analyzed and catalog'd
vs. someone with an apparent sincere knowledge of, and more importantly love for, the wider Segaverse-
>>534573442AAAHHH KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT
>>534572539You were probably told women don't experience it by a man as well. It exists, I've felt it to a degree, it's just less extreme/sexual than fanart or anime would lead you to believe. It's just a passing thought of "lucky, wish I had those" that lasts for a second or two. It probably feels like when you see a guy with nice muscles. I've had friends with large breasts tell me they're jealous of smaller ones too, we'd joke about trading sizes.
>>534566137How would that work, exactly?
>>534573736>You were probably told women don't experience it by a man as well.I'm a women.
>>534573926*slicking back hair* these guys bothering you?
>>534573736>I've had friends with large breasts tell me they're jealous of smaller ones too, we'd joke about trading sizes.Someone please draw Rouge and Blaze doing this.
>>534573120What the hell man I thought you was windpilled
>>534570560MoistCr1TiKaL/penguinz0(retarded, fence sitting,never had strong opinion on anything,redditor) had a brilliant idea to invite Sneako(retarded,brown,muslim pedophile) to debate him about age consent/child marriage, during which he:
1.Moist said that age consent and marriageable age is the same every state it isn't, in some states it's 15 and in some there is no age limit on marriage if you get parents consent. I think it wrong and age consent and marriageable age should be the same, but that wasn't what debate was about
2.When Sneako asked would it be ok for children to get transgender surgeries he said "yes absolutely"
3. After the debate, his response to the drama everyone calling him a retard he just said "Sneako is pedophile, trannies should have the right to mutilate kids" and reddit liked that so i guess he think he won or something
Sonic is fast
>>534573371What's wrong with FMA? I really like all the male characters. All the relationships feel healthy and realistic.
>>534573926And do you talk with other woman?
>MoistCr1-
Stopped reading right there. Stop falling for globohomo psyops.
you know something? Crazy Taxi makes me happy playing it. I'm no good at it, at all, but it's fun to be bad at the game, because I can't be mad at it. (breaking down into tears) I just want - want a Crazy Taxi - and Daytona- auuugh-
>>534574193Bad example, you got me. There is nothing wrong with FMA, but in my experience, both men and women can write good and bad.
FMA is good. I don't think Fairy Tail is, but it has a lot of fans of both genders so it must be doing something alright.
>>534574309I used to back before I became a NEET. Now I just stick to fangroups I was already part of which is mostly other women anyway.
>>534574030I'm glad I realized that Cr1tikal was a fucking retard years before he revealed his power level, and the same goes for SomeOrdinaryGamers. People need to stop worshipping fucking frauds. Thanks for the qrd.
Sonic.
>>534574319My friend who is not interested in Sonic likes her. She has a cool design for many casuals, and that's ultimately good.
Some will say "Oh but they don't care about her story", my lads Scourge had many fans like that, and I assure you there are fans who go into shipping nonsense who don't care about Silver and Blaze stories.
People are weird like that.
Anyone else have their immersion ruined by how Sonic character anatomy is impossible?
>>534574745>quills have bonesi-is that accurate?
I'm 99% certain that reboot Archie was building towards Colors-based storyline that would heavily feature Katella. There was a lot of wisp stuff and a LOT of AoStH stuff.
>>534574508Honestly that doesn't sound like a valid excuse, femanon. Sure you are a woman but if your experience with other women is NEETS, maybe you are not opening up enough.
>>534574843I'm mad she remained a one-off character.
>>534574891Why the fuck would I want to interact with society? There's currently an ongoing culture war where one side is unironically saying that women should essentially become sex slaves again because incels can't get pussy.
>>534574745So they do have toes
>>534574319Holy fuck.
Do you think she is more popular than the crying lesbian duo now?
>>534570821Why is this the happiest I've ever seen Snively?
>"I will pay you in pounds, Snively. Pussy pounds. For every 240 hours, you get 24 minutes alone with the lynx girl.">fuck yeah bitch
>>534575189Surgefags are celebrating over a tweet with 17 likes now?
>>534538783 (OP)>slop shit retard tanabata edition non canon btw lol
>>534575079You and pretty much everyone else, dude. A wild card mercenary who is simultaneously comedic and competent is such an obvious secondary villain to push.
>what if dead child were alive and fucked Shadow???
>>534572118I do not believe so. Don't confuse every red haired woman.
>>534575358more canon than ur ship
Would you kiss Tails /sthg/?
>>534575112To make your writing feel more real!
I'm messing with ya, anon.
>>534575923On the forehead
Gotta love her whole 'space unga' aesthetic.
>>534575112>women should essentially become sex slaves again because incels can't get pussy.Based. Down with hypergamy.
>>534575285I never figured out his character?
Is he actually evil, or does he just have an evil boss?
I always thought it was the latter riiiiight up until the very very end, but now I wonder if it was Naugus mind control...
>>534574319I have no idea who this is.
>>534575112>essentially become sex slavesYeah and the opposite is the r/FemaleDatingStrategy mindset that essentially every man is a temporarily-succesful incel.
>>534556468>Toyoda had them completely job offscreenSource? As far as I know that's something Ian made up in TailsTube. For Forces Sonic Team simply decided to ignore GUN and treated it as its own world, as far as I know.
So...uh.
Any fanfic you want to recommend, anon? Something short preferably.
>>534576760He's a selfish little worm who wants power, and his tall angry gf. Snively's really not that complicated, all told.
>>534577204That's the source. Tailstube. The games have ignored GUN existence and Forces seemingly has Shadow and Rouge work for...someone?
By implication is easy to suggest GUN were taken down by Eggman in Forces.
>>534571428>"Season 3 got canceled? In favor of that gay happy Underground and X shit? No problemo! For the revival film, I'll just take everyone back to the glory days of ShitAM season 1 where we the grungiest and edgiest thing around!">*everyone blacklists your stranger-danger ideas including the sea3on fan-comic*I wonder why.
>>534575923Yes. On the lips with tongue.
>>534577204I believe there's also some interview somewhere, but whatever. The point is that G.U.N is not in Forces, which is fucking stupid.
>>534577404>Forces seemingly has Shadow and Rouge work for...someone?This especially irks me. Because the script seems to be operating under the assumption that Team Dark are still friends and still work for G.U.N, especially in the DLC. I will not be gaslit on this shit.
>>534577987Sex with malemy
>>534577823> are still friends and still work for G.U.N.Allies, as Shadow would say.
But yeah, it is weird how they are writing Team Dark like in 06 when every other game didn't ran with the idea.
>>534576365>>534577074>It's only okay for men to have multiple sex partner>Women should lose their rights so the bottom percent of men can reproduceEven if your retarded ideas weren't based solely on your selfish desires there's no way this would improve anything in society. All you would end up creating is a civilization full of dysgenic, genetic dead ends.
>>534578063>Redeemnic proceeds to continue defending Eggman
>>534578103>It's only okay for men to have multiple sex partnerWho said that? I'm all for monogamy and women not being whores at the same time.
>there's no way this would improve anything in societyWould fix the birth rate problem
>>534575285Slander, Snively was uninvolved with this plot in the outline/storyboard and may not have evfn known about it.
>>534577404I mean Eggman was fighting for half a year and Sonic's friends are beaten down and near useless in that game so not hard to imagine the brunt of that was GUN.
>>534578251>Would fix the birth rate problem.Yea and now you have a bunch of actual retarded weak men who can't fight or fend for themselves. Congratulations, you just created a slave society. Only the men who women find attractive should be able to pass on their genetics. This is the natural order and revoking women's rights won't change that, all it'll do is just make us more secretive about it.
>>534578269Man I hate Infinite.
>>534578412>Only the men who women find attractive should be able to pass on their geneticsSo you do agree with polygamy for men?
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>>534578103>>534578412Exactly what I'm talking about. This "any man I don't want to currently have sex with is an incel" is insane. You know you won't be in some harem, right?
>>534575923Yes, sloppy kiss on the mouth
>>534577404It makes sense, but to my knowledge no one actually thought so until Ian put it in TailsTube. People have also taken it to mean that GUN can't exist anymore going forward which is just silly.
>>534578661Archie preboot did this often and it worked.
>>534577404Rouge is always working for "someone", best not to think about it.
>>534578412>Yea and now you have a bunch of actual retarded weak men who can't fight or fend for themselves.Femanon, women repeatedly choose sub-90 IQ convicts and rapists out of their own free will. Yes, they can fend for themselves in the way that they can steal and beat up elderly people for pocket change instead of getting a job, but let's not pretend women can only pick good men.
>>534578043Yeah, allies. I will never understand why they refused to just roll with this direction. People liked these three being homies.
>>534575923Of course
Assuming he's okay with it
>>534578823She was explicitly working for the White House in SA2. And pretty much every other time we see her working for someone, it's G.U.N. Honestly, Rouge is like Samus, in that she's ostensibly a freelancer, but in practice she's almost always working for the GFed.
>>534578730The Sonic fandom taking things too literally. It must be a day that ends with a y.
Flynn said the End is dead. Doesn't mean it cannot return, same way Black Doom has.
Flynn said that according to Sonic Team, Team Dark "aren't friends". This doesn't mean Shadow is a jackass who hates them, it just means they aren't a found family like the other teams are written. Shadow obviously values them but he is not a friendly person.
And so fort, and so fort. Just look at the Shadaria fella who is obsessed with "Shadow and Maria are canon" just because Maekawa likes the ship, as if that meant anything when he doesn't own the characters.
>improves IDW
Holy shit I fucken kneel
>>534578618>so you do agree with polygamy for menI don't agree with it but it's how we've been reproducing for the past 50+ thousand years so it's safe to assume it's the default mating strategy for us. Which really just goes to showcase how delusional incels are. They want their monogamy but they also want to fantasize about being "Chad" because they know that's how mating strategies work for us on an instinctual level. They blame women for something that they themselves would do in an instant if they had the ability to do so.
>>534578673I don't want to be in a harem. That's why I'm a NEET. I clocked out of society years ago because I don't want to be a pocket pussy for males. The fact that incels are trying to take away this right and option from me is stupid because it's not like I'm going to suddenly pick the incels as a mate if I'm forced to choose one. I'm just going to pick whoever is the highest % male in my area and share him since that is the easiest and least resistive route for me. Incels do not understand this very basic concept because they genuinely believe that women's rights is why they're incels and not the fact that they're just genetic dead ends.
>>534578847>Women repeatedly choose men who are capable of violence, have a proven record of doing so and are too impulsive to control.Yes, this is very basic mating strategy 101. Most women do not want to produce offspring that are going to "good little boys" who do nothing but listen to whatever the authority figure is and cuck themselves to whoever has the stronger social power.
>>534578823For real, this is gonna be like "dull surprise" all over again.
>OMG the comic's picking up, they're all looking up at something sinister in the air WHAT'RE THEY SEEING?!>nothing
>>534578975I don't believe Sonic Chronicles is the best proof for Team Dark's writing.
>>534579141I fucking love the idea of Shadow the Hedgehog getting up to goofy office shenanigans. That shit is hilarious.
While Sonic being a cheap whore Surge is training working on herself so she'll have enough power to kill the blue menace
>>534579393I'm pretty sure that Ian when talking about The End made it extremely clear that according to him it died and can never come back. Which is indeed stupid, and iirc contradicted by Kishimoto
I thought it was Iizuka who said Team Dark aren't friends
Isn't it weird that the main channel has never explicitly advertised anything from IDW? Even if it's not canon, they don't treat it like their regular collaborations at all. They post about pretty much everything except the comics.
>>534579695Well, Flynn wrote the End dying. But remember he is just the hired writer, and if Sonic Team wants to bring The End back, he will comply.
We are talking of the same man who hates Eggman Nega being around and purposefully pretends he died at the end of Rivals 2, despite the Olympic games suggesting he is still alive.
His personal interpretation is fine for his writing but for making decisions Sonic Team has the final word.
>>534578453Remember that the Forces War was Shadow's fault
It's kind of messed up that Shadow canonically kills like four people close to someone and none of the heroes know or care, he of all people should know how traumatizing survivors guilt is
>>534579581>dull surpriseWow, there's an old pull.
>>534579614Eh. Disagree.
>>534578035do you think he tops or bottoms
>>534579984This is the same guy who got tricked into believing that Maria wanted him to murder everyone on Earth. Shadow is kind of a dumbass.
>>534579935They aren't gonna do that, Kishimoto a year ago said the end was dead same interview where he said while we and eggman see it as a purple moon Sonic and Sage both see it as something else entirely, basically like Galactus, through I don't think they've referenced that Galactus looks different to different species as part of his lore in decades in fact, I don't think his daughter even has the same distinction as her pops she just looks like the way she does because "well how else are readers gonna understand she's releated to Galctus?!"
>>534579581Eh IDW team pays attention to fan reactions like the attention-whores they are.
Ian said that the artist included a panel where Whisper gives Shadow a weird look that was meant as nothing more than distrust but fans speculated that there was something going on between them and they decided that was more interesting than just a dead-end stink-eye.
>>534579984I'm more annoyed by people saying Shadow is out of character for murdering some smuck mercenaries.
Some folks say how it betrays his backstory because everyone in the ARK was killed, or how the mercenaries were Infinite's family
I believe some people got too in love with their headcanon abour Shadow, because from the beginning (or at least Battle and Shadow 05), he has given me the impression that he will delibaretly kill people who gets in his way or are threatening the planet. Why else would he be the only character who has killed Eggman in the games?
>>534579510>Female strategy is letting society degrade into impulsive violent men disregarding social cohesion.Yeah sorry but that is not conducive to creating any form of civilization, that's just you having a fantasy for being subjugated and projecting a scenario where that is the default. Which is unfortunately what I see with a lot of chronically online women, they simply project their vices into society and assume it is the best way to conduct things or how they've always been.
In fact your point is slightly delusional because you say you don't want to be pocket pussy, but your least resistive strategy is being reduced to pocket pussy, and in a society populated with low-impulse control men that were supposedly selected over 50 thousand years you would very likely simply be a sex slave.
You're about as delusional as the incels you hate, and you perform the same type of projection.
>>534579986I just think Shadow is a bit off in the game.
>>534580608Both are tied I wonder who will ring the next fight
>>534579510>I'm going to pick whoever is the highest % maleMen have a choice also. High-value men choose whores for sex and mothers for marriage.
>men do no understand>they genuinely believeNo, we understand this exactly. You are literally articulating the exact reasons why giving females full control of reproduction and encouraging them to never settle has been a disaster.
>mating strategyYou actually have to actually reproduce for your eugenics nonsense to make any sense. You don't so it doesn't. You and the rest of the femcels with this strategy age out of the dating pool because nobody wants to marry you because you're a low value woman (whore) then you seethe about lack of "good men". Civilized society just isn't set up to reward polygamy.
>>534580905Surge need to work on her long range attacks and she be so busted
>>534580642>>534581149>Calling me a whore because I choose to be a NEETHoly projection.
>>534579848No. I think its weird that IDW doesn't have a youtube channel.
Image Comics
https://www.youtube.com/@imagecomics
Dynamite Comics
https://www.youtube.com/@DynamiteComics
Dark Horse Comics
https://www.youtube.com/@darkhorsecomics
Keep in mind IDW is still the #4 comics publisher in the US (somehow). If they can't be assed to make youtube video ads, why the hell would Sega bother?
>>534579510>I don't agree with it but it's how we've been reproducing for the past 50+ thousand yearsAs cavemen, not as a civilized society. So if you're going to appeal to nature, I can just destroy your whole argument by appealing to nature back and saying that, if monogamy is what we ended up choosing, then that's the natural mating strategy for humanity.
>>534579990>>534580179Doesn't matter, all Blobians bottoms for Human Males
>>534580534Rouge and Shadow's relationship is weird as hell in IDW. It comes off like Shadow's being a tryhard, and Rouge is getting tired of his bullshit. But they still hang out? This shit makes no sense.
>>534581396Oh and cause I forgot
Skybound
https://www.youtube.com/@Skybound
Pray they get the Sonic the Hedgehog license.
>>534581179Also training to use magnetism would do her good for shit like pesudo flight
>>534581396IDW is just a licence merchant. They have no IPs that actually belong to the company.
>>534581403Somehow I think the Flinstones comic made a joke about this topic.
>>534581403So you're solution for this is to force women to choose incels when by your own admission they wouldn't do that if forced to reproduce anyway?
You incels do realize that even if you got exactly what you wanted you would still be sexless dysgenic idiots right? Women don't choose you because they have a choice, they don't choose you because most of them would literally rather die than reproduce with you.
>>534581529She'd have to get in the lab with Kit to figure out the science on that.
>>534581542They have hire marketshare then all other publishers mentioned sans Image. Sounds to me like they don't have youtube/video marketing strategy. Have you see what Dynamite does?
https://www.youtube.com/live/xgXJGw9VrVk?si=lbHImsLxNN4u-YQh
It ain't much but it puts your brand out there.
>>534581529This pretty much just make her like zeraora
>>534581705>Women don't choose you because they have a choice, they don't choose you because most of them would literally rather die than reproduce with you.Yeah, where are all those pakistani women killing themselves in protest?
If men decide women are rape slaves, you ain't gonna do shit. You ain't gonna kill us. You ain't gonna kill yourselves. You'll just say "Here's your sandwich sir".
And the reason why that's inevitable is because your retarded system doesn't even solve the birth rate problem. So women will keep being whores, white countries will decrease in population, they will take in muslims, and the muslims will use democracy to vote away women's rights, that's what we're seeing right now. Feminism is a self-correcting problem. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>534581757Open your science text book to page *Surge drawing graffiti on pages*
>>534580464>Kishimoto a year ago said the end was deadI don't remember that, I only remember Ian saying that
>same interview where he said while we and eggman see it as a purple moon Sonic and Sage both see it as something else entirelyLink the interview. I remember him saying this in a Twitter post, not an interview
>>534582104>white countries will decrease in population, they will take in muslims, and the muslims will use democracy to vote away women's rightsAnd through it all, you will never get laid even once.
So I guess we both lose in this situation.
one of these guys zipping around Station Square
>unironic incel manifesto nonsense
The hell is going on in this thread? Shit like this is why everyone hates Sonic fans.
>>534582331>And through it all, you will never get laid even onceNope. I'll become a passport bro or some shit.
There, you conceded while I didn't. I'll take this W, thank you.
>>534582452Oh stop whining. We're just doing a little bit of off-topic banter.
>>5345805802010s Sonic games have problems, most notable of which is that the writing, especially in English, is that the dialogue is OOC. Forces' story has many problems, but that's not one of them. Since it came in the same time period as the other games, everyone just assumed that the main problem is OOC, when it really isn't.
Feminists and Incels are just two sides of the same un-dateable coin. In reality, they should stop having standards and just get married but that would imply fixing their inherent problem of being unwilling to compromise.
Relationships are give and take. Children don't understand this. Adults do.
>>534582540>He unironically bought into the passport bro propaganda.Enjoy getting milked for you money retard.
>>534582662Millennials and onward are not built to grow up
>I'll become a passport bro or some shit
Did you think that was an own or something? Assuming of course you would even have enough money to do that. lmfao.
>>534582662>unwilling to compromise.Oh yeah! I'm an incel just like the Wind!
>>534582784>>534582987Hey, you said getting laid. Not getting a happy healthy marriage and family. That's basically impossible with how women are nowadays.
>>534582842Society has disincentivized "being an adult" so its not their fault. Gen X being awful parents doesn't help either. The issue is education more than anything else.
>>534582380How Sonic Humans designs should be like
>>534582958>that penis placementSexualizing Ivo Robotnik in anyway whatsoever should be classified has both a sex crime and a hate crime.
>Windfags proudly identify as incels
Cannot make this shit up, folks.
>>534580580I don't think Shadow killing people for a mission is out of his character, just like I don't think Shadow only saving some because of his mission is reductive of his character. Its just weird how none of the more empathetic hero characters tried to learn anything about Infinite or why he is doing what he is doing, in spite of the game establising his messed up backstory
That empathy to connect to the villain, even an unrepentant or non-sapiant one, was a major part of Dark age Sonic storytelling that was missing in Forces with its handling of Infinite
>>534583523Hey man, I'm not the one who said incels don't compromise, just like the FUCKING W1ND
>>534583404OOC. The Wind does not fuck and rejects affection of any kind.
>>534583016@SHADDYCATZ it's a shame zhe did cuntboynic baka can't even fap to real gay porn nowadays
>>534568535He's like AWF if he had talent and thought of other things other than himself and porn
>>534583571I think this is because Forces and Episode Shadow were written as two separate stories, which makes it a complete mess. In Forces Infinite was some sort of robot/cyborg/whatever created by Eggman alongside the Phantom Ruby. But then Mania decided Classic Eggman found the Phantom Ruby, and Mania was connected to Forces through Classic Sonic, so Ian made the comic where Eggman finds the Phantom Ruby in his own dimension, but the rest of the game was never rewritten to keep this in mind. And then they gave Infinite a new backstory that makes him independent of Eggman. What a complete mess
>>534574030He may be a moron but he saved video games. That's closer to relevancy than that.
>>534584115When are you going to post your Kino Sonails fic, fellow Tailsbro?
>>534584442I stopped making those ages ago. I started focusing on other things. There were some fics posted in the meantime but they were too explicit for me.
This is how IDW stans sound like lol
Oh? Is it Tailsposting time? :D
It's 2025 and people still haven't realized that logical factual arguments don't mean anything to people that aren't logical or moral.
>>534584843>"Sonic is The Wind!">Okay, but that's really boring.>"But it's canon, and that's all that matters!">You do realize this is supposed to be entertainment, right? >"Sonic being The Wind is canon!">Yeah, but it sucks. >"It's CANON!">But it sucks, though! >"SONIC. WIND. CANON.">But->"LALALALALALALALALA!!!"Every fucking time with this shit. Why indeed do I even bother?
>>534581396>why the hell would Sega bother?Not really what I meant although that's a valid point. It's more that sega doesn't advertise their IDW collaborations. They talk about every single one of their collaborations except anything involving idw characters or locations like in speed sim or roblox. It shouldn't matter if its niche when they've been collaborating with all sorts of things lately
>>534583571>That empathy to connect to the villain, even an unrepentant or non-sapiant one, was a major part of Dark age Sonic storytelling Except for Biolizard (Chaos Control warped to who knows), Metal Sonic (left to rot), Black Doom (killed off by Shadow) Mephiles/Iblis (have been sent to literal canon limbo), Eggman Nega (defeated and left for dead) and Dark Gaia (beaten to submission since he's immortal)
Tails is the most huggable character
>>534585421It's not boring at all
>>534583113Rouge is such a tease
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
>>534585421That's arguing with autists, that's different. They're deadset logical.
>>534584654W-what?! you have no idea how heartbreaking this is. Iโve been reading your greentexts since you started posting circa 2023. Every thread, every postโฆ it was something I looked forward to and now youโre just gonna be done with it?! you canโt just abandon your longtime fans, Sonails greentext bro.
>>534585551What you fail to understand is that the licensee i.e. the entity who paid Sega money also produced those adds themselves with very little input from Sega. I repeat, Sega ain't gonna pay to advertise your shit.
>>534585589Yup
>>534585817No anon you don't get it that's not the marinever guy that's another person lol
>>534585840SpongeBob lost to the wind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCw3zW-myAw
>>534585840Spongebob is a real character who actually has a personality.
>>534583946I see where you're coming from, but that's why I used the Gamma as an example, he is also a robot created by Eggman that got fleshed out and bonded with a hero character, of course Gamma was a playable character. Another example is Metal Sonic in Heroes, he gets two lines explaining himself, but the Sonic and friends still come away from that understanding what his deal was.
I guess Infinite was hamstrung by his sudden exit
>>534585817>filename Are you a Tailshater?
>Iโve been reading your greentexts since you started posting circa 2023I think you're confusing me for someone else. I did some greentexts but not as early as 2023
>>534585421The logical argument here is that you should go to a different series if you want Sonic to be a different character.
>>534586156Good point. But yeah you're right, the way Infinite "dies" also comes out of nowhere and makes little sense (especially after they got rid of his creation being connected to that of the Phantom Ruby, but even taking that into account it's still unexplained nonsense)
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>>534586350BUT IT FUCKING SUCKS THOUGH.
>>534585918Oh wait so you're not the guy who made all of those intriguing Sonails greentext?? Ah okay I guess it's a relief then!
>>534586214No I rabbu tairsu
When did everyone become so mean to each other? Why did I became as mean as others?
Man that one sperg from a few threads ago crashing out over Abraham Tower's name allowed gave me a good laugh. Wah it needs to be retconned even though it's in the games, the journal and used in an animation that not only won an award, but spans 6 million views across all uploads. Sega's not going to retcon that
>anons talking about tails greentexts
>"Not silverine one"
There was another tails greentexter?
And how is the OG greentexteranon doing?
>>534586564Explain why it sucks
>>534586749violence brings satisfaction
monkey brain
>>534586759He was very insistent it was bad because it started in a fanfic.
Let's ignore the name has been a comic name for literal years, but let's pretend something originating from a fanfic is as bad as a war crime or someone being a pedophile.
Like who cares, man?
>>534586975reddit spacing
>>534586975What fanfic? Was it written by Ian?
>>534586891But its no fun when I'm only angry all the time. It's like masturbation, it feels nice until the post nut clarity kicks in and you feel like a piece of shit.
How can I stop being so mean? I know it won't fix any rep, those bridges are long burned, but I want to be better, I need to be better.
Please anon, tell me.
>>534586769There was one (just one, to my knowledge) Sonails greentext written by another anon some months ago, and also another anon who wrote a greentext about Tails buying candy. Neither of them were fapfics, unlike Marineverfic's stuff
>>534586759It was funny, but it also led to the actually pretty interesting discussion about how in practice, most creators recycle old ideas or basically everything. And also that nobody actually gives a shit if something originated from a fanfic for not.
But yes, his name is Abe. Simple as. I mean it's a good name, and it's not like Sega ever bothered to give this actually kind of important character a name, so fuck it.
>>534587125The anon from yesterday was mad because Abraham Tower the name was bad because it started in a fanfic Ian wrote decades ago.
Even when people point out that Sonic Team has no reason to care about its origins, he was insistent it was some unholy crime against creation because "everybody will turn their fanfics canon", as if the anon thinks the future talent in this franchise will not get their ideas from something personal they wrote.
>>534587125Yes, it was discussed in the past like several months ago and it was brought up again yesterday
>>534511621
>>534585567>BiolizardNot the main villain of SA2, Shadow and Gerald are
>Metal Sonic>>534586156>Black DoomYou still get an explanation of his motives and can work with him, albeit in a non-canon story path
>Dark GaiaWhole game is about the relationship between the dark and light Gaias and how that conflict is necessary to the balance of Sonic's World
I'll give Mephiles/Iblis (half-baked combo of Chaos and the Biolizard?) and Eggman Nega(bootleg Eggman with bootleg motivations) though; my point is Dark age Sonic villains have a side to the story, and Force's attempts to recapture that was lacking