Thread 534576259

the suffering is endless edition

>Guide
https://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2
>Year of Prophecy
https://www.destinythegame.com/en/YearOfProphecy
>Edge of Fate trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LFBTFpWYVI

>News
TWAB (07/08): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_08_07_2025
Update 9.0.0.5: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_0_0_5
Destiny Rising is out on the 28th of August: https://x.com/_DestinyRising/status/1940802715577106526

>Resources
DIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/
Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/
API: https://www.light.gg/
Stats: https://destinytracker.com/
Braytech: https://braytech.org/
PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2
Gunsmith: https://d2foundry.gg
Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/

>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/

drowned in the Deep: >>534288527

its up https://youtu.be/ohBjS4CVmuk

>>534575634
You will get a Reprised Leviathan all covered up in Egregore spores and Shadow Legion remnants fighting for the near infinite Calus bot storage :)

Uh Marathong bros its not looking good

>>534577085
Not Destiny related, Go back.

>>534577085
lol they're already soft cancelling it by mentioning "if" it's cancelled. this shit is never coming out but will continue to eat up all of destiny's resources

>>534577085
>We believe this launch will happen, but if it's cancelled-

>>534577085
What valuation are they referring to?

>>534577890
That it'll release by the end of March. The fact that they included that caveat is how you know it's going poorly.

>average hunter male on left
>average Titan female on right

>>534577890
sunk cost

this game's fun but bungie mismanaging the game and the community being insufferable will end up killing it lol

>Destiny 2 will never have a kino moment like this
>We are now in the post Endgame MCU era for D2
https://youtu.be/0DdvNF5NXp4?si=6jiNrBiAzoSTO9hs

I hate how everything has to be quirky and one liner slop instead of actual creative writing

>>534579721
>I hate how everything has to be quirky and one liner slop instead of actual creative writing
Americans are incapable of creative writing

why do they want us to play pvp so much?

>>534581703
They want to keep that audience captive until Marathon comes out, and the best way to make them feel good is to provide shitters to stomp

>>534576261
But all of the hard work with actually designing it and figuring out how to get it work in the Tiger engine was done in 2015/2016. I know the engine has changed since then but they brought back Sunless Cell recently for just a season. It can't be that hard for a Sony studio that they paid $3,600,000,000 for. Somebody there must know how to get older content working in the same engine, the PS4 and Xbox One could handle it in 2016. I don't get what the deal is, even the "over-delivery" faggot is gone, right?

>>534582169
>even the "over-delivery" faggot is gone, right?
lmao even

>>534581703
To keep the pvp sweats happy they need a constant stream of fodder to shit on.
That's how they make their content I played a match with that Benny the first week and he was just sat on a cheese spot using a broken gun with a max weapon stat to farm kills or something.

"THIS WEAPON IS BUSTED GET IT NOW"

K1 LOGISTICS IS UP!
GET YOUR SUB 2 MINUTES SOLO OPS RUN NOW!

>>534582320
Oh fuck, I thought he got laid off around TFS for some reason. I guess that was stupid of me to think Bungie would lay off someone that retarded.

>>534581703
They just want us off of solo ops, they should have just tested their game for 5 minutes and they would have found out that we would have all gravitated towards the most efficient farming method.

>>534582169
>they brought back Sunless Cell recently for just a season
Is this now the second or third strike that has existed in the game for a couple months, from the studio that "can't bring back SRL because each SRL race track costs around the same as a strike" and "We can't make strikes with each DLC because they're expensive to make"

I haven't played this game in a long time but if I understand correctly they brought sun setting back now only it happens every 6 months and you retards are still playing this.

>>534586531
>esl
go away, ramesh

>>534583463
its not the same but i only got to play that strike from shadow keep for a few months before it got put in the cuck vault

>>534586752
You are so balls deep in a sunken cost fallacy that you can't give up a garbage game that doesn't respect your time. You are legit pathetic.

>>534586887
just shill your mobile game and move on

>>534587196
I am not shilling anything. Just pointing out how pathetic you are. Get some standards holy shit. Learn to cut off a game when it become shit.

>>534587454
i cut off mobile games chang, so i did

>>534578291
UOHHH THICK THIGH FEMTITANS

>>534587656
Yet you still play anti consumer games like Destiny 2 retard.

Bungie cares about me

>>534589538
#metoo

>>534589538
and other things battered house wives say

>>534589538
Bungie somehow found out that I'm a chud and hates me. I never get surveys and so many random devs from Bungie have me blocked on twitter. I probably called them retards at one point and they didn't want to listen and hear my feedback.

Male Warlocks look so fucking weird in D2, I wish they didn't make them look so retarded when they decided that every chest piece should be a dress.

>>534582320
>ruins the companies public image
>gets promoted
Classic…

Chink mobile game gets SRL before D2 lmao

>https://x.com/_DestinyRising/status/1954211073403572706

>if you hate destiny you wanna shill rising
This is as pathetic as when the BDF retards were saying if you hate bungie you must be a troon, lmfao.

>>534590940
Bungie is too busy falseflagging(like the mongol above me) and ragebaiting to add SRL to the game

>>534576259 (OP)
what are the best mods to take while leveling up for armor?

>>534591071
let me guess, we shod all play a mobile game instead, right troony?

>>534591180
>Eric July
Can't stand this retarded nigger, he would be a great fit at Bungie.

Its UP! DestinyGOD has spoken, HEED HIM!

>>534591689
Stop wearing the Bluey shirt

>>534591801
I think I hate Vito more than Eric at this point

>>534591689
boobies

>>534593306
>us

>>534593306
HOPE FOR THE FUTURE!
ITS COMING SOON ENOUGH!
HOW MUCH CAN WE ACHIEVE?
HOPE FOR THE FUTURE!
IT WILL BELONG TO US!
IF WE BELIEVE!

*kills your game*

>>534594468
Wrong image

>>534591463
No, you should either play actual non slop games or find a non slopped hobby.

>>534595973
>not shadow keep

what's the point of playing trials when solstice exists? the loot is way better and you don't have to deal with sweats and cheaters

>>534596535
trials weapons

>>534596426
>Steamblight
God i want Activion servers back

>>534596426
shadowkeep is one word
and no shadowkeep didn't kill the game and is better than bitch queen, shitfall, and final slop combined

>>534597563
>and no shadowkeep didn't kill the game and is better than bitch queen, shitfall, and final slop combined
The shadowkeep expansion or the game as a whole in 2019? I agree that the game was better during that time but Shadowkeep was a bad expansion, Armor 2.0 was pretty cool thoughbeit but the rest of the content, other than the raid, sucked.

they should have added strand to witch queen like it was originally planned rather than delay it

>>534598005
correct.

Edge of fate has a pretty clear theme of most / all characters having to deal with the dangers of nostalgia and the stagnation that brings (Lodi and Ikora treasuring their pasts, but ultimately letting them go, with Maya being the antithesis, obsessively unable to let go of a past that never really existed ie. A non toxic lesbian relationship)
And I think it's fucking rich for Bungie, of all companies, to write that cautionary tale

>>534594468
titanbros we look fucking stupid...

>>534597934
the game as a whole in 2019 and 2020 was definitely better, but i think just SK itself was also better because in my opinion a good or at least okay but consistent story can make up for mediocre content while good content can't make up for a garbage story full of retcons
and besides i don't think the content delivered with WQ, LF, TFS was anything special
SK was like a prelude to BL and what Luke Smith and Mark Noseworthy called the era of darkness, the original WQ and BL that never were
i suppose in a way we did enter an era of darkness of a sort

I still can't do the maze section of Pit of Heresy right before the final boss fight. At this point i just follow somebody around until it's all done but if i see the end point i'll just sit there and let somebody else deal with it.

>>534600319
"maze" lmao

>>534598005
uhh honey, STRAND was never intended for Witch Queen
mmmkay?
STRAND was always intended for Lightfall
what? did you originally think STRAND was going to be some sort of Hive magic poison/decay Darkness power? lol
lmao
you retard
Joe already told us how retarded we all were for thinking something so foolish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJWfrI5SPs&t=193s
you need to get better at Bungie's semantics game

>>534600680
Tyson confirmed that it was intended for WQ in an interview with the Tractorslut
https://youtu.be/LVJRrzNWwd4?t=210

>3 games in a row face against the same 170 weapon mask of bakris hunter with graviton spike that is lagging so hard he is effectively running against walls and one-shotting everyone he comes across
>We lost all games 0-5 because nobody in our team can damage him
cool matchmaking.

>>534601363
Joesisters.....
our legacy is being dismantled
why would Joe say that thing in the vidoc though? he wouldn't LIE to us, would he?

>>534590798
C-suite can only fail upwards no matter what they do.

>>534600680
During the initial release of LF they literally had a bunch of strand tooltips that were still mentioning infection and poison, lol. It was meant to be sorrow (hive magic), but it's pushed back to LF because without it LF would've had no new features on top of dogshit story.
The only good thing about strand is grapple, but since savathun was all about spider webs and shit, I reckon we still would've gotten grapple with the og sorrow.

>>534602375
You can tell just from how Deepsight platforming sections are designed that grapple was always going to be a thing. Just think about Sav's fight and how the intermission revolves around climbing towers to kill wizards to get stacks of a buff called Threadcutter.

>>534602769
Yeah, that's what I was talking about, just cba to bring up the last few mission of the campaign because it's too long ago and I didn't remember the details.

I love being in a abusive relationship with bungie

So, Ikora and the new reddit character are just glowniggers? That's it?

The Dreadnought is here...

>>534604217
Bruh, at this point I just want some spaceniggers to do something, we, as species, are hellbent on fucking ourselves over for some reason. But then maybe that's why these spacenegros are ignoring us...

translocks small pp

>>534604162
You rike?

>>534604428
Holy shit I'm glad Ikora shaved her head. Now he looks more Somalian than ghetto uppity nigress

>>534604428
People played THIS?????

>>534604217
>2000 miles long
>2000 miles is a bit over 3000km
>there is a reddit post from 10 years ago saying that the Dreadnaught is probably around 4000km in length
MY KING
I AM READY

>>534606265
Oryx made quite an entrance. Xivu and Savathun could never.

>>534606753
Post shadowkeep destiny 2 player here
Um...............this map is to confusing... the content should be made around players of my thinking level

>>534606753
Was super kino to explore this with friends back in the day. The raid felt more like a destination with cool encounters, dunno why it was disliked.

>>534604217
Bungie cooked. BIGLY

>>534604345
Humanity as a whole lacks the stones to do what is necessary to create a civilization capable of joining the spaceniggers amongat the stars. We spend more on welfare for uplifted stone age civilizations(nigs, indigenous americans, abos, etc.), than we do on space tech.

>>534607797
I think a lot of it had to do with Y1 systems, though you also had things like people getting lost, hardcores wanting more from prestige mode than ornaments, and people finding a lot of it underwhelming after spectacles like KF and WotM.

>>534609097
I still rock exclusive y1 ornaments and shaders.

>>534609439
feels good to have neat stuff

>>534610085
This was peak during curse of osiris.

Fuck off twitch tranny shill

you guys remember when destiny had lighting?

>>534612362
Remember how this lighting engine came out for ps4 and xbox1. They had to drop it because it was too taxing on PC toaster builds, which make up 90% of PCmasterracegods.

I like destiny 2s current lightning right now
As a competitive player, it is important that I am able to see the entire battlefield
Im not here to gawk at scenery. I am here to grind and show off my triumphs from the destiny universe
The changes in beyond Light were necessary to achieve this

>>534612362
What's lighting?

>>534597563
It was immediate decline after Forsaken and its actual good seasons. It was the sign that bungie thought they now won back the trust of the players and could now be lazy again
>>534611549
Clan housing? Racing? Zero trannies in the game?

>>534613802
please be a femtitan

>>534613860
What did Bungie even do for year 2? Forsaken's prerendered cutscenes were outsourced and the support studios handled the destinations, most of the systems(including the collection screen, which is why it's so bad now), and the seasons.

>>534613749
No amount of HD textures will ever compete with legit lighting. Halo 3 looks better than D2 during gameplay. Reach looks better in every conceivable way, except face animations, although Kat is better looking than any D2 "body type 2"

>>534614378
The texture resolution is probably higher and the meshes might have more polygons, but they still managed to make things look worse

>>534614637
man I miss that mark actually being translucent instead of random glowing squares

its UP!!

>>534614194
They were busy doing their knitting classes and transitioning.

>>534614637
How many millions were paid to Blur, to make an emote dance off trailer for the game, instead of making in game cinematics?

>>534614879
Correct me if i'm wrong, but D2 has no translucent textures on armor at all. Even the solstic3 glows are hard lines with holes in them

>>534614879
>>534615472
lost technology...

>>534601716
I can't believe that (((Joe Blackburn))) would lie to us. His nose is a normal size and he totally pays interest on loans, just like the rest of us.

>>534615472
I was gonna say some of the guardian games hunter cloaks were translucent but looking at them they're just solid glowing sheets

>>534613749
>Brightness: 7
Be disingenuous elsewhere.

>>534617837
Both of them are you fucking moron.

>>534617837
This still looks like shit and worse than D1.

>>534617837
get glasses nigger

>Renegades has to go against BO7 and BF6
the big nigger test is coming....

>>534621024
Only for the red mini game audience, which is the smallest it's ever been.

>>534621024
>Playing a cod released after the year 2019
>Playing a new battlefield game on launch
I'd rather suffer in trials man

I play Crucible
We exist and we keep the game alive

>>534621024
BF and CoD are rife with cheating subhumans fuck that.

>>534621150
maybe if Streamerfags and their followers didnt shit up the Crucible and drive out Casuals it would be bigger

>>534621875
Anon the game has been out for almost a decade. You getting shit on by a guy who goes 1.5 every game is going to happen every now and then.

>>534622385
problem isn't that, for me it's that if I do slightly above average the next games the game expects me to carry 2-5 gluesniffers who can't even aim

>>534613802
Sorry I'm so BAAAAAAAAAAAA-d at the game.

>>534622520
Now shit matchmaking being an issue is definitely something I can agree with. Personally still praying duo quo stops being a thing for trials.

>>534577414
The funny thing is Bungie thought they were being slick sending out the shill bucks to a lot of FPS personalities and it back fired when they saw how ass backwards Marathon was

Can you guys stop being so negative?

>>534583463
This would be a record, yes even tho it’s a reboot of a d1 shit. Festering Core only got to exist for a year and that was a selling content point of Shadowkeep which was bullshif

>>534623629
Believe me, man, I'd love a reason to.

>>534623791
The fact that it's completely gone from the game is so bizarre and stupid. Nightfalls can't be launched because it's still in rotation this week, so the node just displays the pink placeholder icon.

>>534623629
No datto I wont

>>534623629
Give me something positive to work with that's not a candle in the wind.

>>534623806
>>534624925
You are still alive and healthy

>>534624925
You get to grind an extra 50 power next month

Kepler..

>>534625408
>No Strike in the stranded Aircraft Carrier
Destiny lost it's soul...

Kelp

>>534625587
I don't get why the fuck the aircraft carrier is there. The Nine brought things forward that were relevant to Ikora and Lodi, but the carrier is completely random.

K
i've got Sunshot catalyst from private exploit
IT IS WORKING

>>534625773
its obvious why its there

you think the game will be good by shattered cycle?

>>534626064
>not featured

I wish femtitans looked like this...

>>534626335
Cool Warframe

>>534625773
During a side quest, Lodi mentions stargazing when he was a pilot, maybe during WWII (I think, I will admit I was not paying much attention during this quest)

>>534626335
nisentanaka tier

>>534626807
I think he would've been too young to serve, though I'm not entirely sure how old he's supposed to be. I remember that he brought up Cessnas, and Cessna closed in the Depression and didn't reopen until after the war.

>>534626335
The travelers greatest gift to us were femtitans.

>>534624338
I am no Bungie shill but its almost like the internet has lost its ability to think critically about anything and instead regurgitate whatever ragebait YouTuber they like as if they were a broken fucking record, whatever chance Destiny 2 servers had of shutting down is dead now that Sony is taking over ? am I particularly optimistic about it ? no Sony executives just as greedy as Pete is so I don't see us getting anything thats absolute kino content wise, acting like the game wont be around for at least another 5 years is retarded nonsense, and dont even get me started on the Destiny 3 sequel beggars, they say they want a new game until they realize its in the same engine as Destiny 2 as well as having to give up their 5/5 crafted Austringer with fully enhanced perks and all of the fucking raid exotics that took them 50 runs to earn, im not saying Bungie deserves praise for much but Jesus fuck you retards take a second to think for yourselves instead of watching the latest Sweatcicle or Aztecross slop, please.

>>534627335
>The travelers greatest gift to us were femtitans.
This

>>534628105
I WANT TO BE SHOULDER CHARGED INTO A WALL

Post your mogs

>>534625773

Wasn't that aircraft carrier in that cutscene showing Zavala being Risen for the first time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI5poBxV_-A

15 minutes is not enough for a matchmade GM inverted spire

>>534629457
Wishful fucks pretty hard right now

>>534631032
It could be a reference to that, but I completely forgot about it and that still wouldn't explain its presence. Ikora's fate is to succeed Zavala as commander, but that's the only connection I'm aware of.

>>534631794
Holy greebleslop batman

>>534631032
oh yeah i guess it is. also that trailer is kino and makes me wish destiny 2 was a prequel about making our way across the world to get to the traveler and rebuilding the last city. Perhaps we would see and actually partake in battles like the wish dragon hunts, twilight gap, and the great disaster. Maybe we would encounter warlords, other human settlements, rogue guardians, legendary figures, etc.

>>534631886

It's on Kepler because it looks cool and older more talented developers already modeled it in game for these DEI hacks to steal today.

>>534631032

>Eliksni clearly shown targeting civilians

Whoa this is some serious hate speech chud. This NEVER happened!

>Grandmaster with matchmaking
Sounds terrible, I'm in

>>534633771
revives shut off after 15 minutes too

>>534627713
I'd give up every single piece of loot or collectible cosmetic if it meant D3 on a new engine with better lighting, a return to D1's atmosphere, and no faggotry.

>>534629457
I still have all of my shit on the new ornaments from when the damage resistance bug was working.

>>534634079
Same, I'm sure most would at this point.

>>534634079
the only thing I'd miss is outbreak (my beloved)

>>534633952
Is that true?

>>534634552
We all know they'll get lazy very quickly and start bringing old shit back

>>534634618
no matter how many revives you have left, when the timer hits 15 minutes it takes them all away

>>534634470
about 6 weeks ago most people (meaning non-4chan people) thought the game was in a great state

>>534626335
uooooaaaahhhhhh :sob:
>>534629457
pic rel

AAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

>>534634618
Yes, we had like 20 tokens and they just evaporated after 15 minutes

>>534635394
UUUOOHHHHHH BEAT ME UP WITH YOUR HAMMER OF SOOOOLLLL

>>534634774
maybe when it comes back it can be matte black like in d1

>is that.... CALDERA !?
>NOOOO BUNGIE I DONT WANNA GRIND THE SAME ACTIVITY OVER AND OVER AGAIN !!
>What do you mean i dont need 400 POWER LEVEL !
>I don't wanna play other games ! I NEED BUNGIE TO RELEASE NEW CONTENT EVERY WEEK BECAUSE IM A NO LIFE FAGGOT
I hope some Muslim refugee fresh off the boat form Libya or something puts a bullet in this pathetic Pastaniggers head and calls it a day, he would certainly be doing the world one massive fucking favor, whiny ass beta male

>>534636030
It'll be olive green and piss yellow like Khvostov, and the classic look will be an ornament.

>>534636212
Playing other games is gay.
Playing Destiny 2 is gay.
You are gay.

Glim it or Keep it?

>>534637246
>Destiny 1
glim and i dont even know why you are playing that

>>534633771
>>534633952
>>534634618
>>534634894
GM's shouldn't be taking over 15 minutes anyway, and if they are, you shouldn't be dying at the boss

>>534637426
you're forgetting all the retarded modifiers they put on it

its UUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPP!!!!!

datto views lower than ever kek

>>534637805
Current meta builds are so dangerously cheesy that they sent chester cheetah into a midlife crisis

>>534638103
meanwhile on AZTEGODS CHANNEL

we need to beat back the doomers and show them what hope really looks like

>>534638101
This guy has a major chip on his shoulder from getting laid off at his work place and sees it in Destiny. This entire channel is just the guy beating a dead horse because he actually and unironically wont move on. He says he has, and does, but continues to come back.

I forgot what the term was for it.

>>534638103
Who?

>>534639098
I think that was the guy who cries alot I dont remember

>>534635394
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP

>>534639146
>guy

Realistically, what do you expect to see in Ash and Iron?

>>534641535
siva subclass
wrath of The machine
new siva exotics
new siva fallen abilities and units
mommy efrideet

>>534641535
Grandmaster stuff, another Arms week (Kinetic shotgun and the sword), the Expert version of the raid, maybe some thing equivalent to Sieve but a master version or some shit.
Rotation of portal activities or additions to it.

I'm not getting my hopes up, this feels like one of those "system updates" expansions where the foundation is laid but there wont be anything substantial until later.

>>534641535
>new plaguelands activity
>hoping for another Pinnacle Op/Exotic quest but im not holding my breath, at least Dungeons are getting updated though

>>534641535
knowing bungie, they will add a bonus objective to 1 activity in each portal area per daily reset that drops an engram of a reissued armorset or gun, probably a gun that no one actually cares about with idiotic perks and a holofoil version

>>534641535

Make it happen Bungie!

>>534641535
A single 3-man activity
Plaguelands but with zero SIVA.
Epic Raid is just TDP but they added 3 mandatory champs to every encounter and increased the power delta to -80.

>people still using Midnight Coup in Crucible when its god roll is outclassed by every other 140 in the game
sure glad i barely play PvP anymore

>>534642634
memory of felwinter was peak

Why do I keep not getting credit for the solstice scorched challenge, yesterday I played 6 games and got 1 credit towards completing it and I just got the challenge again today and it didn't count the match I just played again

>>534637246
Keep the middle one I guess. Also fuck you for getting three of those because when i opened up my past few skeleton chests i got all armor

>>534643281
How are you launching it? I haven't personally had any issues, but I think people said launching it from the event menu causes that. Not sure.

>>534641535
Siva eververse items (silver only)
Black goo bullshit in the plaguelands
Seraph Tower public events recycled as the 3-man activity but now it's the black goo or maybe siva
Dialogue(text, not voiced) referencing wrath of the machine but talking about how lucky they are that they don't have to fight Aksis
Allison raping the lore with some new reddit shit she likes
3 weapons that are worse than the EoF weapons
black goo exotic class items that will be featured for 3 months (no new rolls)

>>534644024
I've been launching it through the event menu

>>534644134
sounds to me like bungie cooked

>>534644238
That's what you get for expecting this game to work properly

>>534644679
This game is so frustrating, I can't believe that was why

NASA JUST FOUND WHAT?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfXcOpPPfg

>>534646014
Holy shit is that mecca?

>>534642953
>A single 3-man activity in the Plaguelands but with zero SIVA.
>Epic Raid is just TDP but they added 3 mandatory champs to every encounter and increased the power delta to -80.
fify

>>534644238
bro, portal only

>>534645348
i was mostly doing them to get rolls of the smg, but the 100 event token cost is retarded so I gave up
>>534646014
who is ready for the Eliksni invasion my niggers ?
>>534644238
Why ? its literally easier to go into the crucible section and click on it ? (event portal sucks a little bit in this regard)

>>534646014
please tell me that theres atraks-1 on that ship

Just got catcalled and had my ass groped by a hunter and a titan when I was on my way back from a 12-hour shift in the tower.

These women have no sense of personal space. I'm filing a complaint to the Vanguard atm.

>>534654473
Homosexual post

>>534654473
>WAAHHH I GOT SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY A FEMTITAN AND HUNTER
Maybe next time dont dress up like a goddamn man whore and you wont get groped bitch. ever think of that?

>>534654473
Hippy is that you ?

well i got to level 100 in the plunderpass in 6 hours from level 8 thank god for gold and glory weekend

>>534656745
wrong general, scallywag

>>534657283
sea of thieves actually doesnt have a general

>raid clear numbers still not improving
We're posting Curse of Osiris numbers at the moment. Around 30k full clears each week across all raids in the game.
TDP hasn't even cracked 100k and it's been out for nearly a month. Currently on 62k.

>>534657535
>drop raid with no real rewards
>nobody with a brain bothers to do it
how could this have happened

>>534657517
>even the /vm/ thread is dead
damn

>>534657535
its because its not rewarding and to even get a sliver close to it you need to do feats and to top it off joining even normal runs half the people dont know wtf they are doing so you get stuck on an encounter for an hour then everyone dips

>>534657535

Love to see it, Destiny's RAD team always get their balls sucked by the media despite them shitting the bed for years now. Everything they do is designed to challenge and please two dozen streamers and fuck everybody else. If i was put in charge they'd be the first department i'd fire at 9:05 AM on day one.

>>534654473
You should be grateful

What's the best way to grind from 200 to 300?

>>534641535
I feel like its going to be a complete ripoff of The Witcher having us the "young wolf" hunt down scary creatures left over by the "SIVA crisis".
We will get a couple enemies with red or kepler goop on them which we need to scan or chase then a lore dump on it.
We will also get a sword maybe the one from Rise of Iron but it will be the most long winded shit going requiring multiple wins of Iron Banner and other bullshit like "find the SIVA molecule" "clean the SIVA molecule" "bake the SIVA molecule" etc
Since raids are now dead they will probably add a raid and dungeon requirement too.

>>534657535
The crossbow is awesome but it's not wow'ing anyone because DPS on a standing still boss / target range is all people care about, and it's not for that.
Otherwise, amazing new perks for a raid or something of a unique combination is usually the drive. This time around though there's no real new perks on anything. It's just the same generic guns, like yeah a stasis 600 auto is nice but it's got nothing really. SMG is the same thing. Fusion is controlled burst. Sniper? eh.

>>534660158
Ash and Iron will have next to no story.
They already said the major updates are mostly just the activity.
It's going to be dry as fuck, with maybe some dialogue vaguely gesturing towards a story in the activity start and end.

And if you are expecting any more than that, that's on you

>>534661436
knowing that the plague lands are going to be gone a few months after returning just like the dreadnaught sucks

I think the most damning thing is how we aren't getting anything new in Ash & Iron, everything is in Light.gg and it's all dog.

>>534662329
Major updates are not being vaulted like seasons episode were. They are permanent editions, but they are also going to be much ceaner than seasonal drops of old.
They also don't cost anything, technically.

>>534635394
SEX NOW

what even is Ash and Iron and why can't you faggots shut up about it

>>534663475
The only little snack of drip fed slop we'll get until Renegades.

>>534646014
What if bungie in all their schizo jewish occultness that they do actually made the dreadnaught as a warning of sorts haha what if the jews or masons like knew some hive like species is coming to wipe us out haha!

>>534625773
>>534626110
>>534631032
It looks like a hamfisted reference to the Philadelphia Experiment.

I looooooove the shitty ingame lfg sooooooo much it’s soooooooo great that it basically killed off the Xbox lfg and they gimped the lfg on the app!!!! Bungie is just so in tune with what the community needs!!!! Give dmg a biiiiiiiig promotion!!!!!

>>534664593
you console niggas complained about it so they put it in the game
you get what you fucking deserve

>>534664980
I blame snoyggers personally, like I said, Xbox had a perfectly fine lfg on the console and it’s basically a ghost town now

>>534663984
>warning of sorts
oh my god i will be resurrected as saint 14

>>534663475
Its just Iron Banner and probably the Flashpoint ops 6 man Portal playlist if we are lucky with Archons Forge

hello frens, which solar titan grenade would be best at getting the daily challenge done fast? I only ever use the healing one

>>534670060
whats the challenge

>440, stop worrying about the grind since the weekly pinnacles will be more than enough to get to max
>Go back to try and solo dungeons since the delta has been fixed
>Pick up my trusty luna's howl and ditch my forced T5 EoF guns that I only use because of the score modifier
> Having way more fun

The portal was a big fucking mistake, I hope sony forces them to go back on it

>>534670334
i genuinely checked out of playing, Portal was the worst thing bungie did and have no idea how and why people keep playing 1 mission

>>534670248
just to kill 100 enemies with grenades, but my build isn't exactly doing my any favours so I was wondering if there was a specific one that's better than the rest...

>>534670904
i use the wave grenade when im playing solar

>>534670060
>>534670904
real titans, when not using ashen wake, use the thermite grenade

>>534670904
Any of these three
wave grenade is really good at killing lines of enemies but doesnt do a whole lot of damage
solar grenade can spawn kill enemies and does more damage than wave greande but its stationary and goes away
fusion nade is extremely good if you use ashen wake

I would recommend either wave grenade with demolition weapon
or
fusion grenade with demolition weapon and ashen wake

>>534670904
I love incendiary grenades but I have the halo nade bounce physics trained into my brain

>>534670060
Ashen Wake is the strongest one. Anything with thermite grenades is the sovl one.

>>534670480
Leveling up at this point is monotonous grinding of missions that give the most rewards at the lowest time spend. I can't just go to a dungeon or a raid for some quick leveling because they don't give any higher level loot at this point. Any leveling is through portal only.

should i go get another piece of cheesecake?
i've had a rough night

>>534672483
why ashen wake besides the energy refund it doesnt increase the damage of fusions

>>534674881
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>534674539
it's almost 1 in the afternoon

>>534674881
Just throw Sol Invictus and Roaring Flames on and you will have max stacks

>>534674539
Walk it off fatty

Are most solar titan build videos just clickbait now?

>OMG ASHEN WAKE SLAPS
it only works on trash and as soon as you can't one shot something it falls apart

>OMG WORMGODS CARESS BONK
same shit, unless you have trash to keep the stacks full it does piss poor damage compared to consecration that doesn't need no setup

why is everything so low effort?

>>534676006
>now
Welcome to 8 years ago retard clown

>>534676006
>Are most solar titan
all of them
>now
good morning

>>534675802
im injured atm, its part as to why its been a rough night.

>>534676272
>>534676465
I stopped playing after shadowkeep, just got back recently when they had the mega sale for all the expansions

>>534676006
Everything is clickbait
All of these builds are made by retards attempting to make people commit to something that is utterly trash to keep the cattle from actually using good builds

>>534676006
Hop on hunter bro
>https://youtu.be/GMDOY5ruQTI

>>534676006
why exactly is the jewtube scene for this game so fucking bad, I can look up "x titan build" and literally scroll for like 12 pages before stumbling on a video made by a normal person who doesn't put one or more all-caps adjectives in the title with a stupid photoshop thumbnail and talks at 3x speed in a curated e-celeb voice. It's like these cunts are just mass produced in a factory somewhere

>>534676629
You shouldn't of came back
You left at the best time and joined back at the absolute worse time

>>534617837
>pic
What the fuck is wrong with nuBungie? Why they just can't simply add back old shit without somehow defacing it? Simple model port of beloved fan classics. Nothing more and nothing less.
Nope! Have to add some infested gribbles, cover it in shit, break the panels, etc.
Not everything must be quirky. Gods, it shouldn't piss me off, but it does.

>>534679735
>shouldnt of

People too attached to leave accepting mediocrity

I don't like that the kill tracker isn't immediately visible on the inspect screen anymore

>>534681703
so we should play a mobile game?

GUARDIAN, WE WON

>>534682453
or play other games? you're not bound to destiny anon, you can play literally anything you want.
however if you're currently having fun with the game and have next to no issues with how it is currently, go have fun! though it would be accepting mediocrity to some extent

>>534683832
im not playing your shitty mobile game, chang

>>534684101
im literally telling you to go play anything else anon

>>534684636
ramesh, there will no mobile games played

>>534680010
lmao they really do hate D1 shit dont they?

>>534684865
good, what kind of game are you going to play?

>>534685096
good ones, like destiny 2. mobile game players hate it though

I cant wait to play my favorite mobile game destiny rising

H-Hype............... I-I need- *flatlines*

>>534687642
a doomer just died. based.

which subclass has the tightest bussy

>>534687914
hunters without a doubt

“Still here? Struggling against bungie’s executives compared to which you are so… small.”

>>534688207
Hunters are very loose at this point

>>534688220
maybe the portal was the final shape after all

you know what else is small? my penis

>>534688794
We know Enderbrine

It's okay babe, the big ones scare me

>>534688794
You too huh?

>>534688873
Um.............how did you know?

>>534688317
i would agree but they just have to die and when they get resurrected theyre brand new

>>534689118
>Um.............how did you know?
Warlock mains have smol pps

>>534689472
we make up for it in endurance

>>534689664
>we make up for it in endurance
Ermm can we get a femtitan to confirm this claim???

>>534689919
.........AAAAHHHHHHHH LETS FUCKING GO WE ARE SO BACK HOPE FOR THE FUTURE MOTHERFUCKERSSSS

You will DROWN in the DOOM

VGH

Destiny 1 won
Destiny 2 lost

>Destiny 1 won
at being more boring

>>534690736
So true sis

>>534690736
So trve

>>534691051
God I want to watch you so bad

would you watch me? I'd watch me....

I told my friends about the destiny sale on humble so we could play together an they laughed at me...

>>534691365
I would watch you all night baby

>>534687914
Warlocks because it resets whenever they revive.

>>534691574
Based and intelligent friends

>>534691574
>Trying to get other people to play Destiny
Why would you do something like that to your friends?

>>534690813
lol this is literally me both in game and irl

>>534691574
Still cant believe they didn't do the whole "shes a guardian now" jebait then had them fuck.

>>534691614
even during mythic kepler... you would still watch me?

>>534691928
>even during mythic kepler... you would still watch me?
Even if all my favorite exotics aren't featured

>>534691894
I think they wanted to do it at some point but clearly forgor. I suppose she was too straight to live.

>>534691894
That would have undermined the biggest theme of the season though Bungie is stupid enough to do that

>>534692140
Suppose she will be back when we get the next floaty red people nightmare season on the leviathan.

>>534691894
A heterosexual relationship?
In my fucking videogame?

>Devotion inspires Bravery.
>Bravery inspires Sacrifice.
>Sacrifice leads to Death

>Amanda doesn't get res'd
>Rasputin doesn't get res'd
>Savathun does get res'd
What did the traveler mean by this?

>>534692091
(≧▽≦)

>>534692763
>the traveler
who cares that niglet is old destiny, we only care about the 9 now

>>534692898
>Orin can just ditch the nine
>they don't just go back and pick up Xur
What did the nine mean by this?

>>534693049
They touch on it in EoF. The Nine apparently consider Xur to be a malformed failure of an emissary, so they were eager to snatch up the first replacement they could.

>>534692763
It can take awhile for a ghost to find their guardian

>>534693049
orin helps them with their zoomer rep because he's cool and hip

>>534693049
Xûr too busy giving Guardians stuff in the Tower (can't travel anywhere else or the Caballs will steal from him again)

>>534670334
The problem is Tyson Grind doesn’t understand that ARPG logic doesn’t translate one for one for what we got. A PoE or Diablo class has the tools to basically do anything by default/the talent tree, Destiny the extension and expansion of the classes is through exotics,artifact and other interaction shit on the basis of stat and weapon, and that doesn’t transition as easily on constant wipes especially when there is more pressure on loot curation. Seasonal wipes is easier when things are more disposable and you’re encouraged to try different shit. It also feels more stupid with the featured loot lockout and all that. Just a stupid direction to take things when we saw the cheap way taken is mindless shit grind, more than half the game is squatted, nothing rolled over, and Bungie practically reveling in their own incompetence of shit design.

>>534695546
in an arpg the grind to get to endgame is ~8 hours for the average player. At which they have a huge variety of content to enjoy, meaningful progression, and build-enabling chase items


destiny takes 100 hours to do the equivalent leveling achieved by repeating the same activity 300 times. it doesn't have a meaningful endgame, no chase items, no creativity around buildcrafting, the list goes on and on etc. These retarded devs think they can take things from other genres without understanding why they work and then do the usual "we're sorry, we're listening, a black woman is speaking listen and learn" bullshit like it absolves them in any way. Sony completely gutting this dogshit company can't come soon enough

>>534695985
>and then do the usual "we're sorry, we're listening, a black woman is speaking listen and learn"
My favorite one is "We make mistakes. We are human too." Its such an alien ass response

>rising has sparrow racing
>its just the enigma protocol activity
the mobile game defense force is literally retarded

>>534695546
Gear progression also serves an actual purpose in Diablo or other seasonal ARPGs, while power in D2 is currently just a "You must be this tall to ride" requirement

what would it take for the fags in the bungie offices to actually get some work done in a reasonable time frame

>>534700536
bring back the knitting classes

>>534700536
Maybe hire some more people

>>534693262
>consider xur a failure
Fucking dickheads. Xurs a better ambassador than Orin
>gives you exotic weapons and craftables every week
Vs.
>dumb bitch

>>534703091
This but the opposite

>>534700536
Free Datto bussy poundings

>>534703681
xur doesn't have feet though

>Caldera has the solstice drops today
KINO!!!

>>534703767
>feet
First of all, the women in destiny are mid to shit which you can see for how a 10 year franchise has almost no porn and feet fucking suck as a fetish. Tentaclebro who gives out gally is better.

>caldera again
They are truly desperate.

>Grappler once again in the Fireteam Ops playlist
JESUS CHRIST BUNGIE STOP BEING RETARDED TROONS FOR AT LEAST ONCE IN YOUR LIFE AND NUKE THE MODIFIER OUT OF THE ROTATION !!

>>534704996
pretty sure it updates at 8pm eastern each day

player count?

>>534705474
Just me in caldera, I'll log off soon. Sorry.

>Caldera with Fallen can have one of the bosses fall of the map and soft-lock you from completing it
Now THIS is watchable.

is caldera available to everyone or did you retards who mention it actually buy eof?

>>534705639
Thats what I thought.

>>534706324
I am very bad with money and an addict

>>534706324
Not telling.

>>534704996
I like Grappler

>>534706285
Interesting. Bungie has usually been pretty good with adding "respawn/die after falling into the void" to enemies. There are so many soft and hardlocks in EoF, it really goes to show that they either fired their entire QA team or rushed the DLC.

>>534704996
*grapples anime girl*

>Renegates will be Destiny 2's final paid expansion
>the game will switch to a free update model with time gated activities and several paid battle passes per update (including events and IP crossovers)
>new destination in Renegades is set on Mimas, which has been taken over by rogue cabal transforming it into a hidden battle station
>planned crossover battleplass with Destiny Rising, Marathon and Spiderman Brand New Day in Renegates
>plans to remove the portal and destination screens by combining them into one screen
>plans to update older raids with new enemies, weapons and mechanics (similar to siva strikes in Destiny 1) as an alternative to creating a brand new raid for 2026
>one planned pvp map and a traditional strike for early 2026 inspired by Marathon
>plans for new fragments and aspects cancelled after the dark matter gimmicks reception

>>534710610
>renegates

>>534710808
thank you autocorrect

>>534710610
The final Renegades cutscene will be us blowing up the Traveller like the Deathstar then it fades to black revealing the UESC Marathon with "MARATHON coming soon".
Then the game will be in official end of service mode with chinesium "reward passes" and a light level reset every 6 months.

>>534706324
>is caldera available to everyone
yes, no EoF required.

>>534710610
>plans for new fragments and aspects cancelled after the dark matter gimmicks reception
Ik it's bs, but still, just imagine, "we won't be making new fragments because you didn't like being a fucking ball". That's peak money's paw.

now this is watchable

I knew the EOF was doa when they shilled the ball thing while being vague with everything else.

>>534713064
Guess we just found the answer to the question "who has the tightest bussy"

>>534693263
>miss your chosen guardian because they just died on a planet you were just looking on
Is there any lore on ghosts who give up the goose chase?

anyone here tried soloing sundered doctrine after eof? kinda having a hard time with the 2nd boss, even with parasite I do shit damage

>>534715229
use Outbreak

What's the point of allocating bonus drops to lower difficulties I no longer need if I just get a bunch of 200-power shit?

>>534715720
Who cares, the game is shit.

>>534709972
Yeah I looked all around the map, checked every crevice I could to see if he got stuck somewhere but he fell off and never respawned. The other one just had the invincible shield up so I had to quit.

>>534716114
>>534709972
I had a boss minotaur from the Graviton Spike quest fall into a death pit and survive, but I couldn't just fall down and kill it there, so I had to reload the whole world instance by leaving and starting it again.

>master fireteam ops, oracle
>3 bonus drops
>bunch of shit modifiers and fixed delta
>matchmade teammates fucking die every time and don't really kill ads
>manage to kill the boss in time
>C grade, didn't even reach B
>got a bunch of shit slightly below my current light

Goddamn I don't know what happened but I have really just lost all my will to play D2. Beforehand I was playing like crazy doing raids, dungeons, finishing up red borders, doing GMs but now... I can't even log in for a at least an hour and just play D1 instead. Have been for the past 2 weeks.

>>534718214

Based! I logged in on July 15th saw all my gear was power level 10 and hopped onto D1 the next day and haven't looked back. I thought no Barrier/Dodge/Rift would be the biggest culture shock but instead it's been how meh all the exotic armour is instead. Other than that a 10/10 experience.

>>534712475
they've done this shit before to justify content vaulting
>nobody is running leviathan anymore so we're just going to remove it

is fallout 76 worth playing?

>>534723584
its worth checking out, but dont expect much from it
it really just exists for you to spend money on MTX to make your camp not look like shit

>>534723584
If you have a friend to play with, sort of.

>>534713064
Hop on titan bro

>>534719838
>Other than that a 10/10 experience.
I would say there's definitely some problems besides the meh exotics but overall yeah it is a good experience. My main gripe is trials/iron banner gear no longer being obtainable except for a few exceptions cause I think you can get the weapons from the shaxx bounties and theres the dusty iron engrams for armor but unfortunately only includes 2 sets from vanilla D1 and the House of Wolves.
Old gear is also very rough to come by. Like I really want a good Shadow Price but im pretty sure it only drops from vanguard packages now so not only do I have to grind the rep but also have the luck for that to drop out of all the weapons AND a good roll to boot.

>>534723584
literally anything is better than destiny. just take a shit and rub it on your screen, will probably have better QA than bungie

its UP!!!!!!

>>534720447
This monkey's paw bs is why I stopped playing during LF, there's always a catch, there's no sincerity, nothing is genuine, it's always some bs tied to engagement metrics or some shit.

>>534723584
Yes but only buy it when its discounted for a few bucks.

>>534720447
Yep it’s literal part of the reason why they squatted earnable cosmetics and a harder mode for raid for awhile. One of the least played things so fuck it no more cosmetics. Even though people forget Bungie dropped the ball with Prestige raid lairs when Eater was supposed to be way earlier and they had the whole shit when EoW and Spire prestige were released basically simultaneously in warmind. Except all of that was extra pointless the second they teased armor rework for year 2, so it was like enjoy the ornaments that won’t be able to be applied to new shit because Transmog still doesn’t exist and wouldn’t be til Arrivals rebadging of raids. I think the biggest retard in all of this still goes to Datto who’ll bitch how “people are unrealistic, EV non negotiable, why is this a shocker?” To “uhm how come nobody plays harder modes of stuff” to oh it’s the players who just want freebies and not on Bungie unable to make content rewarding and have special shit behind it. I hope his dog runs away

My raid night :)
>Join last wish challenge run at shiro chi, complete challenges for shuro, and morgeth but fail vault challenge (which is the only one I needed lmao) because people don’t heed the advice I give “run strand or stasis for knights…” whatever then
>Next up is vow with some cool dudes and someone who was obviously net limiting or whatever, it’s so fun when caretaker and rhulk get randomly chunked for 80%
Fuck you get reported
>Then I do 2x vog, first all arc titans, second with all solar, pretty good, meet some cool dudes along the way and 4 of us start…
>What turns out to be at 3 hour long king’s fall from hell featuring 15 total players… 10 year old raid btw. The guys I was initially playing with were ok but we all only vaguely really knew what to do with half remembered shit from d1 and challenge runs I’d seen of KF. A couple guys have to leave and eventually at daughters and oryx the whole thing devolves into LFG musical chairs where nobody’s willing to stick around for more than one attempt, we spend more time waiting for a 5th or 6th to join, and when we finally beat it, it’s because fuck it we ball and we one phase oryx on the first attempt we really got to try lmao
All in all, fun experience, I got mythoclast, some red borders and some now useless fucking gear and also my eyes hurt

>>534713109
I said this before Andy won. He set up Dmg to host, knew simps would slurp off Dmg and be so proud that he finally earned this big duty, and then you realize Dmg can’t host for shit, he kept nothing on topic, and when they went on for like 300 hours about the limp dick warlock exotic and little else to talk about it was a disaster. Also felt really obvious when all the approved content creators videos became a little contradictory and misleading to what we saw and severely buried the lead on stuff. As a continuation of it the GCX presentation was a joke and pulling out greasy limey Roflwaffle was bizarre

>>534713109
I know EOF was doa because everyone good left or got laid off right before TFS.

>>534713109
I knaw EOF was DOA because they didn't come out with any new exotic weapon catalysts

>>534723584
it's a bit shit but the map is good and pretty enjoyable to explore
the limited stash space sucks and is gay and retarded, if you want unlimited crafting component and ammo storage you have to pig out for fagout 1st
you join the enclave which is pretty cool

>>534713763
The lore book for collecting moths in WQ is about them. The majority suddenly felt the need to side with the hive, which is repeated in some solo ops dialogue from Ghost.

>>534641535
>what do you expect to see in Ash and Iron
Moldy Fallen from Kepler have entered the Plaguelands
Plaguelands are all moldy now
Six reskinned weapons that are moldy
A matchmaking event every hour and a half to clean out the mold, featuring voiceover by Saladman, Osiris, and Crow.

>>534731417
The best part will be the realization that the dark matter mold is incredibly efficient at eating SIVA remnants so there's no more siva left in the area, it's ALL mold.

>>534590460
but won't you be ashamed that everyone can see the fully covered groin of your armored spacesuit without your pelvic curtain?

>>534727739
>>534729824
>>534730323
all valid reasons.there was a huge number of red flags.the rise of iron size claim was another huge one considering that bungie could only ship 1 strike with tfs and that was when they had a much bigger workforce.

>>534590460
The helmets suck too. Every fucking visor is just a vertical slit, and most of them look too small to fit an adult's head.

>>534720447
It was worse than that
>don't let people replay campaigns even though they ask for it for literal years
>says they're going to remove campaigns because "only 3% of total playtime was in the campaigns" and the new player onboarding was so bad there were only veteran players, so obviously no one is playing campaigns because they literally can't play them
They made content PURPOSEFULLY unable to be replayed, and then said that BECAUSE it wasn't played very much, it should be removed. No consideration for "want," or "modern content relevance." Purely making the desired outcome (low player numbers in campaigns) via forcing it (inability to replay it) to get their desired outcome (removing old content).

>>534731379
I wouldnt be surprised since they seem to hate d1 and esp roi with a passion.

>>534727674
Well at least you had fun. Get the catalyst for vex when you can. Its very easy but the final set of oracles can be a bitch to remember because of how fast they go although I think its always the same order so you just gotta remember their spawns is all.

>>534733325
They did the same to gambit. Let it rot, then came out and said that because fewer and fewer people were playing it there's no need to work on it anymore.

I'm going to be pissed when Solstice ends and we're going to have to stare at Orin's ugly, fat nigger face in the menus again.

>>534733754
Why is she so fucking fat and ugly

>>534733754
fuckin hell she really does look like floyd

>>534733941
>gasp for air....my will....not my own.

>>534733619
At least you could PLAY Gambit once you'd gilded Dredgen.
You literally could not replay the Y1 campaigns if you completed them without deleting characters until they did their "going away content, replay it now guise" engagement farm in Arrivals.
They always do this shit with making something and leaving it to just fester with no reason (or ability) to replay it and then saying because it's in a shit state they have to remove/abandon it to "concentrate developer effort" or some other bullshit excuse.

>>534576259 (OP)
Soon

>>534692763
>Amanda
Deserves to die because they didn't listen to Eramis
>Rasputin
Deserves to go offline because he jobbed to Eramis

the last time this game was kino was the Saladin inkblot cutscene where he basically explains that mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent

>>534738315
The one from Risen? The fact they did THAT moral argument after the "you should allow the genocidal aliens who tried to eradicate you as a species into your walls or you're evil" seasonal narrative in Splicer tells us the writing team is absolutely schizophrenic and nothing should be held to any sort of standard.

>>534713109
It was DoA the moment they announced Marathon and that they were downscaling Final Shape seasons to "episodes" and then as soon as they announced there wouldn't be seasons anymore with EoF; it was obvious that this expansion would be mid and extremely starved of content since Bungie has all their resources on Marathon atm. In their idiotic wisdom they even vaulted the episodes for no reason despite the lack of new seasonal content.

Edge of Fate's fate was already sealed.

>>534740042
And they completely deleted the reprised strike that was added in the last episode for some reason

>>534741246
They vaulted sunless cell? lol i hate bungie so much it's unreal

>>534641535
MORE SLOP

>>534733941
don't disparage my man big floyd by comparing him to this slop game

>>534741442
It was launched from the HELM/Last City map, which obviously no longer exists, and when it came up in the legacy Nightfall rotation, the tooltip was just a pink placeholder icon and no activity would launch.

>>534741774
Oh I read that post and thought it was just about accessing nightfalls in general now. That's so fucked up. Maybe it's an oversight, they probably forgot it was even in the game since they stopped testing things entirely.

It's not easy to look at

I fucking love indoor fog

We really went from getting locations like dreaming city to keplar lmao

You guys wanted layoffs

>>534743973
Both of Forsaken's destinations were primarily made by the support studios

>>534744328
oddly enough most of the good d2 content was made by the support studios

>>534738315
Actual kino cutscene, no bullshit and a genuine moral conundrum in a trying desperate time period that gave a sense of things. It also worked well because canonical salad man was pissed we were using darkness powers and extra pissed that the Hive now have light powers. It’s completely crazy how bad bungie blew that momentum

what's the best way to level from 200-300?

>>534745403
Basically Caldera/K1 mines especially as they have been rotating with the added solstice drop. I’m actually surprised I was able to pull solstice tier 4s sparingly around 230s-50s or so, not even guardian 7 yet

that aged poorly

>>534744132
180 Bungie devs made Halo Reach and Destiny at the same time. 1600 nubungie devs had their hands on D2 in 2023. There needs to be more layoffs.

>>534747905
>surfboard exos
Bungie should have sold Destiny to Activision

>>534744328
So what the fuck did Bungie do with that expansion?

>>534747905
people pay good money to look annoying

>>534748142
Campaign, Last Wish, and the return of random rolls(which we now know they fucked up) are all I can think of.

>>534749375
>which we now know they fucked up
qrd?

>>534749950
nta but Weightgate.
Their explanation of how perk drops worked said that the math used in perk drops was unchanged since Forsaken, and went undetected because for so long weapons only had 4-6 perks per column which largely mitigated the issue.
Bungie claims it only showed itself when we started getting 8-12 perk guns and people started actually doing math on their drops to see if it was confirmation bias.

>>534747914
That was ODST and Reach they worked on at the same time. They didn't start working on D1 until Reach had released.

>reach power 350
do i see more tier 5s now in solstice engram drops or no

>>534753769
No
You'll see more of them once you hit 400. The drop rate of "higher than minimum" solstice drops (even with their +1 level thing) is beyond terrible.

Why did I buy this expansion? I'm two missions in and I don't think I'm going to make it through

>>534750205
the biggest issue coming out of that was how insistent bungie was that nothing was wrong and that they "had the numbers" yet when the community actually came up with the real numbers they were way off and proved bungie was lying out of their teeth. The company is rotten to the core and needs to be purged

>>534750205
it's fucking amazing how qaqc is not a concept that exists to these people until players are enjoying the qaqc issue and they have a frenzied panic attack about how that will impact their engagement metrics in the long run

>>534754790
I told you not to buy it but you didn't listen to me.

Now that TST (total sony takeover) is confirmed we will be getting a death stranding crossover
2 sets per class porters and Chiral
the porter outfits are just generic porter outfits save for warlocks who get sam's jacket from the opening of 2
the Chiral pack will go as follows

Hunters: DS1 higgs
Warlocks: tomorrows dress
Titans: Red Samurai

>>534756053
>Warlocks: tomorrows dress
'locks not beating the allegations

>>534756053
>Now that TST (total sony takeover) is confirmed we will be getting a death stranding crossover
>2 sets per class porters and Chiral
>the porter outfits are just generic porter outfits save for warlocks who get sam's jacket from the opening of 2
>the Chiral pack will go as follows
>Hunters: DS1 higgs
Based
>Warlocks: tomorrows dress
BASED
>Titans: Red Samurai
Based

>>534754854
That's the part that convinces me that every single thing they claim is a lie.
>Sunsetting for "data limits" first, then "lighting engine" even though unvaulted areas are unchanged in lighting
>constant gaslighting on "ARE YOU A GAME DEV?" to any criticism on the lack of QC (before this year)
>"we don't weight perks and drops :^), what do you mean the math proves we weight perks and drops, you're lying, are you a game dev?" until they couldn't hide it anymore
>"no, we don't give special privileges to streamers" until the Ekeugan "creator summit" leak happened
Not a single soul at Bungie has said something honest for the past decade.
>>534755005
The 4x negative on the Grappler modifier cements engagement as their entire drive for things. The "sound bug" was pure gaslighting, we were leveling too fast for them. I'm 100% convinced that Bungie has sockpuppets on r*ddit to keep the proles in line and control the narrative on things like this.

>>534754790
>Why did I buy this expansion?
if you just recently bought it with the all the negative info surrounding it over the last few weeks, your hopeless.

>>534756053
Destiny 3 will be directed by him.

>Total Sony Takeover
What would (You) like to see in Destiny 2's future?

>>534758503
make every single femguardian a fucking bombshell. not coomer shit like first descendant but more like the halo reach/5 female spartans bit with just a little more going on.

>>534758503
more casual content that people can duck in and out of with little commitment. However, Sony's gripe with Bungie is a lot less to do with D2 and more with overall costs and deadling meeting (especially with Marathon), so I doubt anything radical would happen with D2 next year once the Bungie C-Suite is liquidated, at least in the near term.

>>534758503
Every armor set with glowshit on it comes with a version without the glows.

>>534759310
>thinking modern sony would do this
you will beg for bungie femguardians when sony takes over

>>534760698
wait what. what do they do

>>534758503
every single existing employee of bungie removed and blacklisted from the industry, all the way up through the executive

>>534758503
replying to my own post but i would be cool with a destiny 2 classic/remastered kinda deal if it means we get old content back

>>534761174
Concord

I got to 400, now what?

>light grind takes 200 hours of farming caldera/solo ops, longer if you want to play something else
>"something else" is like 5 strikes and 5 exotic missions on repeat
they want this game to die
i don't know why, but they do

>>534763236
It makes more sense when you remember Marathon was supposed to release soon.
>kill Destiny after the customers gave you their money for it to push players to the new game (so they spend more money)
Was very likely the genuine, unironic plan.

>>534762590
uh weren't the people working on concord lying to sony and then when the game launched they immediately canned it?

>>534763386
>Was very likely the genuine, unironic plan.
It literally was. They were banking on it succeeding so hard lol. I still cannot BELIEVE how much hype there was for the game with the save the date trailer and the beginning of the stream with the controllable robot only for it all to completely flop and have its image utterly ruined. They were insane to think all of that shit would fly but as one anon said they are so used to making shit and destiny players slopping it up they thought it would be perfectly fine to launch it as it was.

I'm gonna fucking lose it dude this is the second time today that I've been 2 seconds from winning a comp match and I get error coded out

>>534764171
>how much hype
It was artificially farmed and astroturfed via paid actors pretending to be hyped. We know they effectively pay for streamers to have positive opinions and regurgitate talking points, why wouldn't they also astroturf anonymous accounts to do it as well?
No one anywhere I saw had an interest in Marathon anywhere talking about Destiny, even my IRL friends with 6000+ hours in D2 alone. The highly curated (and likely astroturfed, remember Cozmo owns it and doesn't do anything on the surface level while still being a Bungie employee) subreddits were even shitting on it.

>>534763386
Ironically I feel the mobile game will be the one to actually steal the spotlight from D2, all D2 will have until the very end of the year is a little slop snack with ass & piss and Rising is already showing to have more content than this entire expansion since slave chinks are better and faster at making games than tranny retards.

>Joins your fireteam
>leaves on fly in

>caldera
you guys ARE talking about this, right?

>>534748876
Gamers get the games they deserve

>>534768948
I do this when I accidentally join a game with the strand grenade modifier or if the hud is disabled.

>>534764171
>hype
They artificially inflated 1st trailer view count by putting in on ad rolls. No one gave the slightest fuck about Marathon, and people were way too eager to label it as another Concord. nuBungie also had a terrible reputation by that point, so nobody gave them benefit of the doubt.
By the time when Marathon was officially revealed, Destiny 2 and its community were in a terrible shape, so much so, that people immediately went ballistic and pinned everything bad that happened to Destiny 2 on Marathon.
>regular players were lamenting about the stale seasonal model and mediocrity it entailed
>Crucible players were crying about anticheat/dedicated servers and lack of attention
>"they abandoned us"
>"so thats where all this D2 money went"
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/13qyf6n/bungie_unveils_playstation_showcase_surprises/

>>534763386
>kill Destiny after the customers gave you their money for it to push players to the new game (so they spend more money)
And it blew in their faces spectacularly. Destiny 2 players got so mad, they badmouthed nuBungie everywhere, and it spread far and wide, irreparably damaging their reputation and their future endeavors.
Lightfall and its repercussions are still FELT to this day.

>>534772557
>Lightfall and its repercussions are still FELT to this day.
Easily Bungie's biggest mistake in recent history, other than letting Luke Smith and Mark Noseworthy go.

>>534774630
>Nose worthy

>>534775423
It's a British last name, I would be concerned if it was Nosestein or Noseberg.

Can I switch my loadout to my highest power gear at the end of a Crucible game to up my reward tiers? I can't afford to infuse my shit because Bungie apparently hates buildcrafting.

>keep hearing people talk about wishful ignorance flechete/BoW
>make build w/ 200 melee
>take it into mythic
>BoW takes 1000 years to get to 4 stacks but falls off instantly
>it still only tickles all enemies
>BoW healing is also ass
>melee uptime is nearly non existent
yeah last time i build into the hype

>>534774630
The last time Destiny 2 felt like Destiny
https://youtu.be/y0SNtmBK1Rs?si=5uajpIfE6-X_IbuU
https://youtu.be/cKqjuGPWzJo?si=qNHdwHwSZpE7YfhH
https://youtu.be/qBIJFTPPp-8?si=IgpyMtDFoKYdbrE6

>>534777051
>You WILL use le designated meta super
>You WILL use at least one secondary with a rocket-assisted frame
>You WILL use le designated exotic scout/pulse/wishender

>>534777051
>mythic
Are there any good builds for mythic? Sounds like it's way harder than they hoped it would be, I say "hope" since they obviously didn't play test it at all.

>>534777502
i can manage most of the missions on mythic with loreley/tommy

>>534777761
forgot to say though loreley isnt featured so cant take it into avante garde shit

>>534777502
diamond lance/tectonic harvest w/ icefall mantle and slayers fang is also not half bad if you can keep your abilities up majority of the time

>>534776637
have you tried asking reddit

>>534776637
are you infusing all your gear the second you earn unstable cores?

>>534777502
Icefall mantle + the artifact frost armour shit + tecsec armour set + a strong kinetic weapon
Ammo is non existent so I've been running Outbreak.
You could probably build it with Alpha Lupi Boltcharge on Arc too for a similar effect with a bit more boss damage if you are confident you wont get 1shot by random teleports behind you vex. But I find stasis slow and the utility of Glacier Nades as a physical barrier is too high alongside frost armour making you tanky its pretty comfy.

For Warlock I'm using a similar setup with Balidorse Wrathweavers but its a bit squishier if you can't spam your rifts as much so I will switch to Solar for the 90% Damage Resist panic button super. One tip is New Land Beyond absolutely fucks anything in mythic so its really good ammo economy.

Hunter has ways to completely nuke everything with Verity class item or just go full tank build with cyterachnid/renewal grasp/gifted conviction. Supers feel like a wet fart unless you are at 200 Super stat so I would just build into grapple melee and weapons.

neco arc but guardian

gifted conviction is such bait istg

>>534780479
>new land beyond
God I wish that had an ornament which made the sight better, I love that thing but aiming is such a fuck with the visual obstruction.

>>534780575
the character model looks really weird

wow. brown sugar cinnamon pop tarts fucking suck

>>534781372
Yeah even after using it for hours I still get confused when it just goes right over a target.

>>534782512
>wow. brown sugar cinnamon pop tarts fucking suck
Wrong

>>534782512
Enough about Ikora lets talk about real characters

>>534782621
whatever you say lil bro
>>534782725
>lets talk about real characters
like strawberry pop tarts which are objectively the best ones.

>>534782512
I only ever got like the smores I think? I haven’t had pop tarts in fucking forever

>>534783420
yeah those ones are good

>>534783362
>strawberry pop tarts
I would say Ana is a Strawberry type of girl her sister more of an Apple Cinnamon

>>534779313
you're an outlier you no life faggot

>>534783674
Orin is Cookies n Creme

>>534783674
Would you say zavala is a wild berry man?

>534784126
He mains berry but he eats these in secret

>>534784179
>Targe is dead and cant transmat poptarts into his mouth anymore

>>534784179
Okay one more. What pop tart would you say the Witness likes?

>>534782584
It doesn't have basically aim assist, is the thing. It says it does but it doesn't work properly or works different on specials or something because you use that, then you use something like Necrochasm and shits very different, like polar opposites.
Most of the time in the game you aim higher than the head slightly to some degree and the aim assist will guarantee the hit, but NLB seems to have basically none so you need to be fully accurate. The annoying thing though is that rectangle and circle iron sight are thick and obstructive so it's a pain in a bitch to see what you're aiming at if it's moving around.

>>534784412
He pretends to like Brown Sugar (order) but cant stop eating those Confetti Cupcake (chaos)

>>534784767
That's weird. The enemy I struggle the most with it is Vex Minotaur's because it tends to veer towards the head rather than the actual crit spot of the chest.

Here is an example. I aim at green I hit red but if I aim at yellow I hit green.

>>534784412
The Witness eats off-brand unfrosted cherry.
The plainest shit you've ever encountered in your life, but homie swears they're fire.

>>534785216
Yeah I notice that too, when I think of examples I think of common Dregs and stuff. I have noticed with minotaur bosses and stuff I usually have to aim at the dick bump a bit.

There's just nuances to the way the game does aim assist. Ever tried to use Choir of One? You can aim directly at it and if the enemy jiggles a little, you'll only get some crits. If you aim further left and line up the right side of the reticle, it'll hit all crits.

It's just like that. NLB I noticed basically has none; but if you want to try pre-emptively aim where the enemy is, when you cock the gun the circle and the square are misaligned and you aim in between the two on the top right some.

>>534785286
A true monster

>>534579053
Destiny can't have kino moments because our pc is mute jackass who stands around watching centuries old superhumans and aliens bitch and cry about how sad they're all day.

>>534785216
I think Minotaur crits in this game are just generally fucked, especially bosses for some reason. I swear I’ve been having the exact same problem for 8 years now

>>534594468
An actual crossover with the prequel trilogy or the old republic would be pretty kino.

>>534604428
still can't believe they put bazz in destiny

>>534785286
some things can be just perfect for some but way too sweet for others and vice versa
So while they are plain to you, they perfect for witness

>>534786479
>Destiny can't have kino moments
Wrong.
Observe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjFOQqJq_I

>>534792085
marvel tier slop lmao even

>>534792085
>The symbolism of saints bubble once being an icon of terror for the fallen, now defending them and not blinding them as they are allies now
>Not one of the narrative team thought of this
>Thrown into a lore tab later, because why show when you can tell
Hacks, all of them

>>534797256
Also the stupidity of a civilian mechanic running up to vex with a shotgun and winning

>>534797762
Bullets are bullets, FoTC aren't completely helpless in the setting. Humanity would be giga dead without lightbearers, (Red War) but it's not like our enemies are invincible if we don't have the light

>>534797256
Whoever was responsible for the direction of that cutscene should be fi-... Nah, scratch that. Executed. Publicly.
This is a mindboggling level of incompetence. It's not a Chekhov's gun, it's a frigging Orbital MAC Platform that somehow flew over their heads. They were nailing that point for the whole season, how Saint bubble was seen as a symbol of terror by the F*llen, as opposed to our common view of it being a signature ability of a heroic protector.

And he didn't use it.

>been clean since October 2023
>randomly start thinking about how fun shooting Vex Mythoclast and Conditional Finality and Sunshot and Fatebringer was
Will I ever be 100% free of this shitty series, I honestly think I would consider getting Destiny 3 if they ever announced it. Even after being cold turkey for almost 2 years some small part of me wants to get back into this gay hamster wheel, this is fucking bullshit.

>>534801105
Vex shoots like ass right now; you're free for the moment.

>>534801642
I went to look at the price of The Final Shape for uh... shits and giggles since I left before it came out, are they making like a full on Star Wars tie-in expansion or something? I also noticed the clan link is gone from the OP, things are a lot stranger since I left apparently.

I opened the thread to ask a question but my scorched match started and now I don't remember what I wanted to ask

>>534802260
Its "Star Wars themed". Whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean.
Not actually Star Wars but doing Star Wars with Destiny characters/lore, I guess.

>>534802260
>Star Wars tie-in expansion or something?
Star Wars inspired expansion in december.
seems like we're going to mars and its cabal themed

>>534802551
Presumably we just go smack around the cabal that mugged xur.

>>534802260
>I also noticed the clan link is gone from the OP
It was a forced meme by a bunch of wananbe namefags, most of whom no longer play I believe.

>>534802975
Wouldn't be surprised if Bungie reuses the Calus bot storage to riff on the Palpatine clones and riff on Dark Empire/Episode 9.

Fun status?

>>534803812
Still having it. I'm at 298, though, so I'm close to stopping playing.

>most of whom no longer play I believe
im still here, bitch

>>534803130
>most or all of the /dg/ clan bros I ran dungeons and raids with are gone
Well that's lame, glad they stopped playing D2 though

warlocks are not beating the allegations

>>534806081
I miss Venus.

Why are destiny players like
>people are overreacting to this new thing. I think people just need to accept change and try it out instead of hating on it
Then when bungie removes it they go
>yeah this thing was pretty terrible so it's understandable they remove it from the game

>>534768948
>join fireteam op lfg
>dude just sends it at C+ tier without a single modifier
Woops aha must have disconnected or something damn

That asshole Cayde never asked me if I wanted to be Hunter Vanguard

>>534809873
You know the rules. You didn't kill him, you don't get to be Vanguard.

>>534806954
Venus, baby! VENUUSSS!

>>534803812
398 power level
i am learning arc titan route with thunderlord and actium war rig, just don't know which sparks would be best

>>534812291
more stolen twitter assets lmao

>>534806954
D2 splitting Venus into three (3) seperate planets was so funny. I do miss Io though, and Asher.

>>534812972
AAAAAAAAAAAUGHHHHHHHHHHHH SEX NOW

I am watching True Detective, midway through S2, and I think that Bungie should make Destiny more like True Detective for the story

>>534813192
Investigating the disappearance of human children in the tower?
We just had a Fallen DLC.

>>534812780
Io was from a scrapped second patrol zone on Mars, and part of it(which also made it into Io) was a Crucible map in RoI.

>>534806282
>Mass Effect paypig chest

>>534813486
If you want big Warlock mammeries you need to pay for it.

>>534813889
it's just funny how Bungie is doubling down on more female attire for Warlocks, they're not even hiding it anymore with the solstice one this year

>>534814142
Gotta make up for the miniskirt and stilettos that titans got in Witch

>>534813192
only season 1 is good.

>>534814350
that's what I heard everyone say, but S2 is growing on me, I'm kinda hooked in

>>534814453
Don't watch season 4. Straight dogshit. Holy fuck that shit was abysmal.

>be Bungie
>want to add a new system that helps highlight relevant activities to new and existing players
>D1 has a quick bar that highlights relevant activities
>Instead of using that waste tons of development time on another full menu chock full of submenus that do very little to help discern relevant content

Bravo Bungie. Guess the quick bar on the director is just lost technology.

>>534815035
>Admitting defeat
>Ever
That is not the western game dev way

if I wanna play the whole game without being limited what do I have to pay? or should I not even bother and wait for it to go on sale?

>>534816506
youtube summary is free

>>534816591
huh? are you saying to just watch youtube? I don't get this response.

>>534816506
Don't play it's not worth it

>>534816506
It's on sale for cheap fairly frequently

>>534816801
i mean i was having fun with the portal but I wanted to start doing quests outside of the portal but noticed most of the quests are for expansions I don't have.

>>534816506
We recommend you buy all of the dlc to fully experience destiny and it's universe
We also advise a 100 dollar silver purchase aswell to customize your arsenal
It gets even better if you play with a friend so we recommend buying the dlc for a friend. Also if you gift to a friend we give you some silver for compensation aswell

>>534817090
I don't have money like that nor do I have friends lmao

>>534816741
jumping into destiny at this point is beyond retarded. If you're interested in the story you can get that for free on youtube. If you're interested in the pvp you can play that for free any time you want. Stop looking for people to justify your own purchases and have some conviction with your life. If you want to waste your money, that's on you

>>534817231
Can't you just get a job or something? You seem kinda like a ungrateful prick

clearly I should've just asked chatgpt, you're all too far gone to give me a proper answer.

@grok shoudl I buy destiny 2

>>534817645
>you're all too far gone
We're Destiny players in 2025. Of course we're too far gone.

>>534817645
>every single destiny player warns others from starting the game
>critics constantly covering bungies poor leadership and hostile-towards-customer decisions
>companies reputation is considered worse than trash after years of doing the most backwards ass shit, including literally stealing from customers by deleting the product they paid for
surely everyone else is wrong.jpeg

you're beyond help, fucking zoomers man

>>534817946
i'm 37, i'm not a zoomer, I also don't pay attention to retarded youtube bullshit.

>>534817645
You are a stupid greedy pig
>OH THATS TO EXPENSIVE FOR ME I DONT WANNA BUY IT
how about you get up from your stupid cardboard box and earn the money to play the game fully faggot

>>534818071
>37
>not zoomer
lole, sit down zoomie and know your place.
come back to me when you hit 65

>>534818071
>youtube
what about literally every gaming outlet? not just social media but even "reputable" shit like forbes and journalists that have covered the industry for decades?
>tassi
sure he's a twat but he's also a huge bungie dicklicker and even he hates them now

You're choosing to ignore everyone else because you're a wife that has already made up her mind and is asking her husband for his fake permission to justify her own decision. Worse yet you're trying to act like you somehow know better than the people that have been actively engaged with this franchise and company for longer than you've had it on your adhd/autism special interest radar. fuck off

tantrums on /dg/ today

I fucking hate this company man, I hope sony blacklists every single bungie employee from ever working in the industry again

>>534818875
Nessus quakes

didnt read any of those but dont play this game
not a joke, not gatekeeping, genuinely bad game

Stupid fucking doomers
Destiny in its best state atm and people are like
>muh old gear gone game bad
Shut the fuck up already. Game is about today and the future. Stop holding onto the past and move on

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing between 250-300

>Destiny in its best state atm
They put Izanami Forge inside a Lost Sector where the skybox is just blank, rather than putting it in it's original location.

They fixed the caldera boss softlock issue. The boss has fallen off twice today and he respawned both times.

I went and played BF6's beta and I had so much fun
What did you do this weekend /dg/

>>534819510
Spam farm a combination of caldera and encore t. A 440+ virgin

>>534819532
It's an area that was never updated for the BL lighting changes. Even the Dreaming City's skybox was broken between BL's release and Wish.

>>534823048
go away, ramesj

>>534823097
anyway through 6v6

does the arc buddy activate things like the ashes to assets mod

>>534815035
you forgot to add
>the menu is so shit it hides the 2 best things bungies has ever done: raids and dungeons it doesn't even have a button of the current raid

>>534823323
I think the Getaway Artist buddy is still treated as generic ability damage, but that's being changed for all buddies to "compensate" for the 19 undocumented nerfs/bugs

>>534823048
i dont have the patience for battlefield
i try and play it like cod

>>534823048
kill yourself

DARKNESS

BEYOND YOUR FINAL DAYS

I messaged my german grandmother and she blocked me

>>534813192
>>534814453
Bro saw the mystery grove review

>>534823179
It's been that way since 2017 retard.

>>534826378
not sure what that is but my older sister recommended it to me. I pay for HBO but never have really watched much shows on it, once I catch up to True Detective I'll start The Wire and a few others.
idk about Game of Thrones though, is it really as bad of an ending as people say? is it worth watching through to watch House of The Dragon?

It's over.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsK4VMYEMSE

>>534827268
The ending really is abysmal dogshit. Game of thrones completely falls off in seasons 7 and 8, the cracks are definitely starting to show in seasons 5 and 6 but they’re ok
Seasons 1-4 are absolute cinema however. Watch the last 4 seasons if you enjoyed the show and want to know what people almost a decade ago felt watching something they once loved slowly become irredeemable trash, it was kinda like watching someone you love succumb to dementia