THE HYPE IS SO BACK!

Tour of Pochie
https://www.twitch.tv/xernuuo

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>>534577983

>offline already
LATE!

Where were you when the Twitch stream exposed Epoch for having NO new content? Only wotlk copy pastes

>>534602020 (OP)
you WILL get tired of changing VPNs

>grand total of four (4) new questhubs
Bravo epochshitters

>>534602138
it was more of a vanilla copypaste job TBDESU

>>534602138
retard or paid shill?

my hype is officially restored!

POCHIE MONDAY WAITING ROOM

https://www.twitch.tv/vei
https://www.twitch.tv/vei
https://www.twitch.tv/vei

>>534602205
I know you are a dishonest shitposter, but there are more than 4

I'm so sick of twows fucking mold server
every low level zone is filled with alts using fiery enchants.

RETAIN THE HOPE BROTHERS

>>534602185
why would I need to do that?

>>534602245
Where's the cute vtuber playing wow instead?

>>534602205
And only 2 new dungeons LMAO

>POCHIE MONDAY
POCHIE MONDAY
>POCHIE MONDAY
POCHIE MONDAY

>>534602472
cool dont play then

>>534602205
>>534602138
>>534602472
worlds smartest turtletards

>>534602245
TRAITOR, NYANIGGER IS A TRAITOR
I WILL ALWAYS HATE HER
NEVER FORGIVING YOU, WHORE

post music while we wait for pochie wednesday
for me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTABysDMwE0

>>534602541
I can make that in a day, copy paste and doesn't count. Why's there no dungeon?

>>534602225
>they claim to have added 1,500 new quests
>there are literally only ~10 (tops) new hubs in the entire world
I’m calling BS on the amount of quests lol. This team is run by an actual compulsive liar.

>>534602330
don't worry twow fresh comes out on the 17th along with new content, problem solved

Nelf feet resting from all the waiting

>>534602472
there is an instance portal at whatever this place is

>>534602421
no one streams WoW anymore except mazed retail rats. OSRS is where it's at rn

>>534602546
this one goes out to my nigga kaytotes
https://youtu.be/Y6ljFaKRTrI?si=OqvfR7SJdUmIabnV

>>534602546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jekHPGP566M

>>534602675
okay where's the cute vtuber playing osrs?

>>534602628
>instant and literal "nuh uh that doesn't count!"
Discord troons really aren't sending their best.
Grim.

>>534602673
You see those gates covering it? That means it's releasing "soon" lmao, not on launch

It's starting to make a lot more sense why they hard locked everybody to 15.
This is just sad.

turtle shills out in full force after seeing all the new content on epoch
sad really, just go back to your own dead general and dead server

>>534602657
why is there so little wow feet r34.

>>534602673
Is this one of the listed dungeons on the site or a hidden dungeon?

>>534602802
>dead server
10k active players at a time with queues while your server is only on for 30 minutes once a week KEK

>>534602848
its not on the site I believe

>>534602848
Not on the site, Baradin was elsewhere

Reminder that turtletards actually thought there were are normally just no NPCs in those new areas

10k with 5k chinese and 3k bots and 1k language barriered russians*

>>534602993
it's 1 shitposter

>>534602756
I'll repost the link to the same stream once her boyfriend makes her play it

>>534602993
>thought there were are normally
are all pochie troons ESL?

>>534602949
>>534602983
Oh shidd

>anon showing off the Epoch world space for everyone to see
>turtle anti-shilling suddenly kicks up, overly aggressive posts and melties all over the thread, actually acting like a rabid animals
Real subtle champs, it's genuinely embarrassing to even look at

I don't even think about turtle at all

Now that Epoch is confirmed DOA, where we rolling though boys?

the only faggots who actually like turtle wow are retarded retail players and korean mmorpg niggers who love their 50 different cosmetic items and 100 different cash shop mounts.

you do realize the cash shop is fucking gay as shit, right? there's 36 slot bag, mail bot, auction house bot, 30 minute hearth stone, retarded cosmetic that turns you into shit, like a panda from mop, a bunch of retarded pets and more.

bros i don't think you realize how fucking gay turtle wow is. it's seriously retarded. you'll be walking around doing something and these faggot GMs are flying around in their retarded custom models trying to be "funny". it's literally immersion breaking korean mmo levels of retarded. if i wanted to play a shitty korean mmorpg with a bunch of garbage in it, i'd go play one.

the population is fake btw. people have posted several times about it on multiple reddits/4chan posts. the owners of the servers have also been caught selling accounts/items/etc on ENPC.

why the FUCK do you want to play here? I know why. Because on the surface, Turtle WoW looks impressive, but in reality it's fucking awful. The content is fine and looks good, but combined that shit with the shit I mentioned, fake pop, insane amount of bots, insane amount of chinese, it's fucking HORRIBLE.

tl;dr: twow is like talking to a hot sounding girl online, only to find out she's 500 lb and doesn't clean herself.

>>534602926
>10k players
>can't find a dungeon in less than 20 minutes no matter what level

>>534603119
sounds good appreciate it

This thread is starting to resemble those failed NFT rugpull discord servers. Just a bunch of drones ignoring all the red flags and hyping up all the failed promises as if they were actually real. Even right down to calling anybody who can see the red flags "shills."

>>534602546
https://youtu.be/sMX2Kqq4h6s?si=zSP4TviKenKeNWHg

>>534603187
A cash shop is the price you must pay for a working server. White men understand this necessary evil.

>>534603187
2000 word essay crying about turtleGODS KWAB

>>534603124
Sorry, just autistic and got halfway through restructuring my post and fucked it up.

>>534603187
You don't need anyone to convince you that the 10k population is fake if you played through the game once. It should be impossible to level in the overworld with that many people and yet you can do mage pulls pretty much wherever you want like you own the whole server

>>534603220
Can you prove that?

>>534603183
so troondle is like those gook mmos and retoilet where all immersion is broken by shekel shop cucksmetics?
hard pass and big yikes

>>534602993
Not only a genuine retardditor, but just a brain-damaged drone
They aren't sending their best lol

>>534603301
but its real, the devs just suck at core dev

So there actually was custom content beyond DM/WC that we can't even get to experience because these faggot devs can't figure out how to run their own server. Why the fuck did they not do multiple public stress tests to see how their server could handle the amount of people and where they needed to fix shit so that it didn't take them this long to relaunch? I'm so fucking pissed because I actually was hyped for this only for dev incompetence to fuck me over

About Bronzebeard: Will the new server have "mixed" classes, like Ascension? Cause I don't want that.
It will be only Vanilla right (for starters at least)? Cause I don't really like any later expansion stuff.

I'm a bit interested but I never played Ascension and all I know about it from many years ago is that it was some kind of project where they let you mix abilities from any class to make your own. What are the shitty parts of the server? Do they sell gold or do any shady stuff. I really want to avoid another server managed by "people" like Whitekidney or Shenna.

>>534603423
Sis.....

>>534603220
stop playing dps shitter specs problem solved, this applies to literally any mmo queue

I'M IN bronzebeard

>>534603374
here's your proof
*unzips*

Can pochie PLEASE just launch already? I just want some comfy rpg/mmo pvp. I've been playing return of reckoning but its unkillable healers are getting boring. Why does every MMO jerk off healers so much anyways? There's no way most people like infinite health bars.

>>534603374
i experienced the exact same thing, got to level 50 without doing a dungeon because i'd just never see anyone looking for groups

jiggiechads when do we get to PVMP

>>534603523
we need some more... substantial eveidence

I'M IN your mom's vagina

>>534603489
ive taken the BBCpill and currently 41
might roll turdle on the 17th
wish epoop was playable through all this

>>534602807
Here's another from the same artist
They actually get nelf feet right with the size and claws whereas most slop is just human feet painted purple

>>534603187
You realize they said they're doing a shop too right?

>>534603489
Is it fun

>>534603561
Pochie monday

>>534603605
please be nice to her

>>534603664
no...

>>534603686
I'll treat her right son, don't worry

>>534603352
I do that shit all the time

>>534603486
I leveled two fucking healers to 60 in the past year on your dogshit funserver and my point stands. I skipped dungeons because I overleveled before I could find a group for them

I've spent all day looking for any game to play ever for a few minutes and I can't find anything
my heart craves 'pochie
I need 'pochie

>I can't find dungeon groups!!!
>n-no I didn't look in the channel people use to find groups...
>y-yes I am a dedicated DPS warrior......

>>534603445
Anon the server has had max level betas before. The custom content is:
>WC/DM remake
>Glittermurk Mines in STV
>Tol Barad dungeon
>I think a new boss or something in MC?
>New quest hubs here and there scattered across the world

>>534603610
I've treated ascension the same as diablo3 for years now - a reinstall once or twice a year for a 1-2 week binge
>>534603664
idk but it aint classic lel

>>534603561
what's your blue burst in game name?

>"you can just report them for multiboxing bro"
>ask a turdle staff member about it
>send me over to some other GM
>ask him again
>insta block, no reply whatsoever
Yeah, nice GM you fucking worker drones lmao

>>534603795
>leveled a female nelf druid on turdle
anon I love epoch and hate turtle as much as the next guy but christ what is wrong with you

>>534603837
Why the fuck would you go into a discord to report someone theres an ingame report feature

only Vvwallcraft lebensraum can save private servers

>>534603654
disingenuous faggot

>>534602926
>10k active players btw, totally legit
Yeah...

>>534603827
>I've treated ascension the same as diablo3 for years now - a reinstall once or twice a year for a 1-2 week binge
honestly prob the best way to treat ascension

>>534603837
Yeah because you're supposed to open a ticket in game and not personally start DMing random QA people on discord you fucking retard lmfao

>>534604007
Half of your complaints were cosmetic non vanilla mounts and pets. The QoL stuff is a total nothingburger to most people, hence the population.

You Hate To See It

>>534604031
Who does pvp? Thats a chud thing and this is a pve server.

luv epoch
'ate turtle
simple as

>>534603989
Because it wasn't the same day, and other staff member literally told me to
Cute attempt at deflection though
>>534604101
>please go ask a GM :)
>NO NOT THIS ONE BLOCKED!!!
You got me good champ lmao

ten gorillion players on turtle

can i get a QRD on turtle warmode, is it permanent? if you enable it can you never do crossfaction grouping or raiding?

>first wolf I kill drops a green
>it's worse than the starter weapon
xd

>>534604118
>hence the population
faked

>>534604031
you just dont get it...
TURDY IS ALIVE, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO AT 60
BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JOURNEY RIGHT

>>534604248
nice bait

>>534604218
>please open a ticket to ask a GM about this issue
>WHATS THAT? START DMING THE QA GUY ON DISCORD?? GOT IT!!!!
room temp IQ

>>534603837
It says right here on this dude discord profile "QA Member".

>>534604303
>expecting PvP on a PvE server
retard

If nothing can convince you from a position then you're in a cult. If you deny all logic and evidence as fake by deep state agents then you shouldn't be listened to when discussing servers.

>>534604118
>The QoL stuff is a total nothingburger to most people
to most turtlefags*
this is the epoch general

>>534604118
some of the mounts look like retail shit though... and they're selling a 36 slot bag, that's just stupid why not at least make it equal or slightly better than the onyxia bag? 36 is just vastly better than anything else.

>>534604248
just like in my paytowin gook slop mmos!
does it have the autoplay button too?

>>534603949
What's wrong with nelf druid? I was going to do that after my orc rogue

>>534604351
>pve is raid logging 4 hours a week and afking in SW for 2 hours
sounds epic

>>534603837
Epoch sissies are we really this retarded???

>>534604290
epoodle cope is getting actually pathetic lol

Bags are not QoL thing, it's p2w trash that does impact the gameplay.
Die turtle retards.

>>534604521
fem nelf druid is trans-coded. see javel

my faith is unwavering

there is no defending twow's shop.

it's just gay.

epoch is gay, too. but there's no shop for now and they've said multiple times they won't have the same level of gay as twow

>>534604561
don't forget making posts in /epog/

pwoooh

>>534604395
I understand the complaints about the bags but ive never really felt like I needed more bag space than the amount you can normally get. I really dont get these scenarios you people are dreaming up. Are you like roleplaying as hunter gatherers out in the wilderness that arent allowed to go to town or something?

>>534604597
there will come a payday hallelujah what a payday

>>534604197
>>534604597

This enrages the turtleshits
They're desperate shillng has no effect at all on steadfast unwavering resolve of the stoic epochians

I want to play low level dungeons and be excited to get a blue item that I end up keeping for several levels bros what the fuck how come I never experience this feeling while playing at max level it just doesn't feel the same as a fresh server

>>534604031
>buff nigger shamans beyond repair, making them borderline immortal while globaling people
>"UHHHH WHY ALLIANCE NO QUEUE BG?????"
gee i wonder you fucking shitstained nigger

>>534604580
need a trans nelf druid gf

Youuuu HATE to see it

>>534604290
>post BRD group recruitment in /World
>immediately get ~10 whispers back
try harder. cope harder.

>>534604561
The fuck else are PvEers supposed to do? There's no level downscaling so you can't quest outside 55-60 zones and there's no sandbox mechanics like ArcheAge. Dungeons and raids are pretty much all there is to do, that's not Turtle's fault. That's Classic WoW's fault.

>y-you are a cultist
>now join MY server with 38 slot bags that's not pw2 btw bcause I said so
hmmmmm....

>Guys they sell a repair npc!!
>Your armor breaks like once a week and theres a repair+vendor npc in every town in every zone 2 minutes away from your position at all times
lol

you can buy a portable repair/auctioneer/banker/respec bot and bags on turtle
it's just so dishonest in a game where grinding efficiency matters

>>534604739
they literally TRANSform into different animals

>new hubs and map additions looked good and fit the vanilla aesthetic
>that underground prison in Durnholde that was a mini-stockades looked pretty kino
Fuck man just fucking end me, I want to play.

>>534604580
fem nelf is unironically less gay than playing male nelf

>t-trust the plan, just two more weeks!!! Kaytotes logged in for 0.02 seconds today stealth launch soon!!!! Magic never left okay he never left!!!! Not a cult btw!!

>>534604765
>buy 38 slot bag
>didn't instakill kel'thuzad
?????? wtf i paid why am i not winning????

>>534604694
Stubbornness means nothing, only results matter. Does a person 'win' by sticking to a poor decision?

>>534604783
you sound like the kind of nigger who complains about games and tells people not to pre-order them. then you immediately pre-order it.

faggot

POCHIE MONDAY
>POCHIE MONDAY
POCHIE MONDAY
>POCHIE MONDAY

>>534604758
hope you're happy there, think i'm gonna wait for epoch though

>>534604661
how does it require a scenario? more bag space = less down time = fast gold/xp/whatever. full bags means you need to go and vendor, which is downtime. less downtime = more gold. it's also a pretty massive convenience during leveling. and onyxia bags are supposed to be special, that's why they drop from a raid boss.

maybe they also sell a pocket vendor you can summon, but the point is the same.

pochie thursday earliest huh

>>534604995
cute boy! post more plz...

Prove you're not a poochie cultist, name your criticisms of the game

>>534604931
>buy chudmourne with 9001 of all stas
>oh but it doesn't instantly kill everything in the whole game so it's not pay to win

>>534604995

Seeing that naked gnome fly around at supersonic speeds around the world actually rekindled my hope for the server. I hope he can find those instance IDs.

>>534604943
I don't argue because I am not a shill trying to convince you of anything. You do whatever you want. I will wait for epoch.

>>534605072
What are you winning?

>>534604765
I want to ____ Jahy so badly

On monday they are going to announce that the project is on indefinite hiatus because the team is burnt out.
You're going to be sitting here in 5 months pretending it's going to shadow launch any second now despite complete radio silence and everybody on the team leaving the discord.

pochie pochie pochie pochie pochie weeeeee!!!

Will epoch be playable september?

>>534605127
tell me how much the chudmourne with 9001 in all stats costs

>>534604783
>this is what epog shills call pay2win
Lmao. Even if it was, small price to pay for this kind of roadmap compared to this reddit bullshit project.

Reminder that Bronzie worldforged items scale to your level and can later be upgraded with marks of ascension to make them high-level items! The greens that drop in the world also scale to your level! Happy adventuring!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>534604597

>>534605109
Are you the same dude who makes XIV threads on /v/ basically saying the same thing but with XIV instead of epoch?

I am not playing turtle.
If Epoch does not release, I will wait for Gilneas Cataclysm on classic client.

reminder that turtle troons see epoch as a threat to their ERP-focused server and so they are lashing out in an attempt to save it. they have been catalysed by that stream that showed how much new content there is

>>534605194
you don't understand how the ability to generate gold more efficiently is a competitive advantage? in a game with an auction house, trading, crafted items, and huge consumable requirements for raiding? and also with consumables being OP as fuck in PvP.

>>534605245
>top: bloated, overdesigned, resources spread too thin
>bottom: understated, realistic goals, focused teamwork

POCHIE HYPE
>POCHIE HYPE
POCHIE HYPE
>POCHIE HYPE

>>534605260
>you never have to change your gear after your starting zone
I'm consistently mindblown at Ascensions level of retardation.

>>534604661
36 slot bags and summonable NPCs eliminate the need to go to town at all, leaving you free to grind at a rate that people without them can't.

>>534604783
niggers never raided with a bunch of crypto brazilians and it shows

Paying for convenience (saving time) in a game where one of the larger barriers is inconvenience (spending time) is quite literally P2W

>>534605427
In baniller wow you could use a second account to mule items for you. Can't believe wow was always pay2win the whole time.

>>534605427
I assure you you will have no ideas getting into raid groups without minmaxing anon. You've created this boogeyman for yourself where if you're not 60 week one with BiS then you literally arent allowed to raid or something. Sure, you wont get into the best guild on the server. But you wouldnt anyway even if you had these things.

>>534605109
I don't think any classic+ project has gone far enough to secure its long-term viability as a game. Including Epoch. I want the OSRS equivalent to WoW and no one has done it yet.
>>534605489
Except Turtle is delivering and you're stuck jacking off to a login screen that lets you play 30 minutes a week.

>>534605597
now you're just coping

>>534605489
>focused teamwork
You ruined it with that part lmao this team is tearing each other apart

>>534605597
and guess what you can't do on epoch?
>multibox

>>534605619
go be a pay piggy for a russian troon then, still waiting for epoch

you can notice the browning of the West with how much more acceptable p2w has become

>>534605427
Not when, at most, all you're saving is a couple minutes on a run to a vendor lol. You can't go more than 2 minutes in WoW without running into some form of vendor.
The bigger problem is that it allows the person to never leave the spot, meaning they can lock it down for hours preventing people from questing/etc. But this is a problem because it's an inconvenience to other players, not because the farmer is getting 5% more gold an hour.

None of you actually believe this server is actually releasing.

>>534605260
Do you still need an invite code to bronzebeard? I'll just wait until it's out...

>>534605584
Its P2W but nobody seems to be able to put into words what they're winning. The non existent "race" to 60? The "race" to get into the top guild? Just play the game, join a guild (or make one) and raid. Vanilla content is so easy you can do it with half the raid afk and in greens.

>>534604661
>Part of the "identity" of the vanilla experience is struggling with bagspace and cumming everywhere when you loot a 6 slot bag in the starter zone
>How does portable vendors, mails, banks, auctions and 36 slot bags impact this?
hmmm I wonder

I'm just gonna play on both servers

>>534605717
kek, troondlefag absolutely btfo'd

containment breach!! all turtles report to your nearest quarantined general in /vm/ now!

>>534605820
I do, just don't have a clue when

>>534605717
>thinking the devs are actuially competent enough to enforce something like that
kekaroo I have 5 accounts and was logged into all of them at once the entire time. They have 0 detection in place at all.

I'm just gonna jack it to futa midna porn if I were to be honest

Just woke up. Pochie status?

>>534605427
Yeah expect when you're questing, where do you go? INTO TOWN. TO PICK UP QUESTS. AND TURN IN QUESTS. STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO VENDORS AND BLACKSMITHS. THERE IS NO LOGICAL MERIT TO NEEDING TO VENDOR/REPAIR EVERY 2 MINUTES.

>>534605672
>I want the OSRS equivalent to WoW and no one has done it yet.
Check out World of RuneScape (WORS). It's fairly far along in dev, but idk if they're letting more players in at the moment.

>>534605820
he does, and so i do. there are many like us
>>534604597

Bronzie custom content has been really cool so far... Maybe even better than both Pochie AND Turtie!

OH NONONONONO
CHECK THE 'SCORD AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>534605871
This is romanticized notions of vanilla. Bag space is like a nothingburger after like level 10-20 and a week+ on the server when bag prices drop.

can someone with a turtle account check how much the donation items cost? I'd like to laugh at how much these piggies are spending for a bag or mount

POCHIE NOVEMBER

>pleaspleasepleaseplease just ignore the mechanical advantages of being able to do all these things you'd have to go all the way back to a capital city to do
>if you do that it's actually not p2w

>>534605820
turtle fresh ensures they will attempt to launch it next week and this time they won't be able to get away with pretending it was just a test. it will be glorious

>>534606068
I'm banned so no

>>534606068
wat

>>534605672
>Turtle is delivering
>K40 and ES is the best they can do
lol
lmao even

All this drama is so they can sweep this under the rug.

IT'S FUCKING OVER
LMFAO THEY ARE ACTUALLY RUGPULLING
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>534605260
>>534605516
Level scaling is gay and nobody likes it, you don't need to make up shit to make it more gay anons. The items scale with a range of -5 to +5 of your level when you loot them depending on the actual level of the zone (So an item in the starter zone will never be above level 10), they don't scale with you as you level and you can only upgrade them after clearing Molten Core with a limited resource you need to earn by playing the game.

>>534604230
You can disable it twice I think but after the second time you can no longer turn it back on.

>>534606068
Made me look fggt

>>534605619
huh? nobody is talking about not being "allowed to raid". i will never have a problem getting into a guild, or raids, because i've done this process on multiple private servers over the years.

but it's just a fact that vanilla wow raiding at a decent level requires using many consumes, which necessitates significant gold farming. gold farming is repetitive and boring, which is why you wanna do it as efficiently as possible. that's why people swipe.

can someone please regenerate this image with AI? appreciate it

>>534605974
Pochie is resting for the monday launch!

>>534605984
I've played it. It's fun, but I'm done with pservers and their rigid adherence to something someone else made. He'll never do anything custom with WORS.

I want classic+, emphasis on the plus. Anything short of that is just a nostalgia circlejerk.

Wallcraft and Turtle are the only projects worth paying attention to in this scene imo

>>534606212
How they don't decide to just wipe it is crazy to me with how shitty these tests and launches have been. Wipe the slate, start over.

>>534606003
Epoch wishes it could be written this well

::bank
loving this QOL

>>534605974
stillbirthed
custom areas looked pretty decent though

>>534606114
It is P2W. But its so small/situational that it hardly matters.

>>534605872
..and anime was solved forever.

>>534606313
Wallcraft is not worth paying attention to

>>534606104
10 points is $1
Most mounts cost 200-300 points except for deluxe paypiggy ones like this

>>534606003
Why would you have a fire going on a wooden cart while sitting in it? Is he retarded?

>write something vague and potentially shocking in all caps
>get unlimited (You)s every single time
Is it really that easy?

>>534606378
Wallcraft is the only project worth paying attention to

I wonder what wall has to say about the epstein files

>>534606189
Upper Kara going into the Alpha Outlands was insane and the most fun WoW prog since actual WoW 15 years ago,

>>534606385
TRH has arrived!

>>534606378
I disagree. Wallcraft is adding all the sandbox features that World of Warcraft killed from early MMOs.
>>534606003
At this point I'll even consider Bronzebeard if it launches in the next month or two. Seems interesting.

Shh... pochie is resting.

>>534606423
It's a free country.

>>534606104
From stuff anons linked earlier, it's 20 euros for 200 points and the items are PER CHARACTER.
Meanwhile the EVIL ASCENSION P2W STORE sells shit for 1/2 the price and they are available for every character on your account and even they don't have the audacity to sell fucking portable vendors.

>>534606607
gn kaytotes

>>534606515
that is an interesting question indeed
im assuming he's on the release the files and death penalty for all of the perpetrators train

>>534606458
yes but what good will these (You)s do in the end?

>>534604640
> they won't have the same level of gay as twow
They won't have the same level of anything

bronz berd xd

>>534606665
>turtle cash shop isn't even account wide
WoW, that is actually straight out of a KMMO cash shop.

>Just two more weeks
>Trust the plan
>Q predicted this

>>534606385
thanks anon
so for an auctioneer, mailbox, vendor, mount (200 each) and four 36-slot bags (300 each) these piggies are paying $200 and thats per character?
lol lmao even

>>534606665
Allowing a character to have all professions on one character is way more massive than a portable vendor anon

>>534606725
Holy based GODgoryGOD

>>534606378
Why? Looks pretty sick to me after reading through the changelog. I'm especially excited to sacrifice a character to become death knight and pvp in northrend.
Not to mention that Wall is literally one of the only qualified WoW devs in the scene, and I do mean literally.

>>534606515
He's not a magat, just a schizo christcuck. In a way, he's pure

>>534606725
>retail lite
So it's WotLK?

>>534606287
help this anon out please i want to see the cute alien girl realistic ai generation

pretending bag space doesn't matter is totally retarded. yeah that's why people rush for mooncloth bags, because it makes no difference. if it wasn't highly desired and highly useful turtle wouldn't be selling them to donors lmfao. guarantee that the bags are their most sold donor item.

>>534606515
probably the same as all the mutts in /pol/
>release the files unless trump is in there, then it's a nothing burger and it never happened and they deserved to be raped

I probably won't check out Wallcraft for a good while but if it actually keeps trucking along and the dev can pierce through the schizophrenic veil to deliver it I'll check it out in like 2 years.

>>534606665
I'm willing to throw Turtle a couple bucks but not making summon assistant NPCs account-wide is fucking bullshit.
>>534606794
???

>>534606839
nah it's way beyond wotlk
>120 mana pool at level 3
>lightning bolt costs 5 mana

>>534606808
Stop talking about yourself in the third person Wall.

>strykersoft epoch tracker has a twow ad banner and affiliate link

>>534606896
Yeah but once you get mooncloth bags you dont really think "Man I could use like twice as much space still."

>>534606423
that's not a fire. it's glisten on a worldforged item that you can loot

his message just means he welcomes those who seek knowledge

32 Hours until Pochie! Yay yay

>>534607008
kek

>>534606937
Wallcraft is unironically the only private server worth paying attention and looking forward to anon

>>534607056
aya uwu pochie

The strykersoft epoch tracker has been compromised.

>>534607053
Why would someone mention a fire if there's no fire? That's even more confusing.

I just want my nigga kaytotes to announce that there won't be any more meme tests until 17th and that he's full launching on 17th

I love being a gay faggot and shilling for a russian whore and her german cuckwife.

oh turtle? yeah i play there :)

>What was that anon? "its over"
>...
>Yea not sure what to tell you, I'm going to build this sand castle and maybe check the discord every now and then.

>>534607008
Shenna is ruthless.

>>534607065
Is Wall going to open source his work? I'd love for someone that isn't a unreliable schizo to manage the project.

>>534606665
whats crazy is i saw tons of people with custom mounts and pets, shenna must have made $1m+ of blizzards IP damn

>Turns out Eflop only has a handful of new quests and dungeons
This whole thing was a scam wasn’t it

>>534606937
>I'll check it out after the server is far along in it's progression and most of the hype has worn off
Seems counter productive to enjoying WoW but you do you I guess lol,

>turdle

>>534607162
yea

>>534607038
you never played a class with multiple gear sets, situational trinkets and consumes?

>>534607147
nice gob, but let's take off the coomer filter and OH MY CUNNY IT'S HIDEOUS

>>534607008
>>534607134
Wonder how much they paid them

>>534607257
Isn't it still in alpha? Or is current Wallcraft the actual launch.

>>534607194
um shut up shill there was like 70 new hubs if you count every individual asset in one place as a new hub

>The cash shop doesn't matter it's only convenience!
>Ok it does matter but it's not that expensive!
>Ok it is expensive and the items are per character, but Ascension is worse!
>Ok Ascension is cheaper and the items are account wide, but...multiple professions!
Where's Shazam when you need him

>turtle
>warrior 1-20
>massive struggle
>need bandages, eating food after every 2 mobs
>upgrading your weapon is a necessity else you do 5% mob HP per hit

>paladin 1-20
>instantly blow up every mob for 50% of their health in one global
>doesn't even have the need to heal themselves, can just kill, kill, kill endlessly
>immunities, CC, heals, ability to kite, strong self-buffs all available at level 8
>can literally equip your starter weapon at level 20 and you don't even feel any difference
>entire 1-20 route NEVER had to sit down to drink or eat even once, literally never went OOM once

What the fuck is this funserver, holy shit

>>534607194
Thats all classic+ needs. It doesnt need a dozen new donutsteel zones and retail-lite difficulty dungeons.

I think Bronzebeard is the logical, 'next step', after Turtle and Epoch. That's where I'll be going at least.

>>534607287
I bet she cooks real good chicken cacciatore.

>>534607008
can't blame him, i'd take the money and I hate turdle

>>534607287
m&m seems cool but some of the quest are really hard with their obtuse world asset interactions

>>534607147
BUILT FOR BIG DRAENEI COCK

>>534607287
Would

>>534607194
Damn you were able to arcane the amount of quests by the localhosted server?

Petition to rename the thread /poochie/ instead /epog/

>>534607287
that's clearly gobhag.

>>534607287
This is way more SOVLFVL though

>>534607162
>unreliable schizo
He's definitely eccentric but he's pretty far from unreliable. He's spent the past decade contributing to the MaNGOS core to the point where it wouldn't be inaccurate to say that he's a big reason Vanilla still exists today.

>>534607373
Paladins rape at low level in regular banilla too you retarded secondary.

>>534607373
You described Warrior and Paladin on vanilla

>>534607287
>gobbos when they hit 19

>>534607373
paladin is twow's lead dev pet class

>>534607434
>retail is the next step from classic+
mate at least play tbc/wotlk/cata before that

>>534607373
I told you it was the hero class

>>534607575
dont reply tourists
if you know you just know simple as
already a permanent wallcraft resident myself

Why don't they just ask ChatGPT to fix all problems?

>>534607373
paladin is the god class of turtle. best raid healer, best pvp healer, best AoE tank, high tier DPS, insane in group PvP, insane in solo PvP, and to top it off? easily the best goldfarmer as well.

>>534607307
Currently in open Alpha for testing the last bits of custom content, then launching before the end of the year. Release date likely being announced in the next few weeks.

>>534607580
>>534607601
Sure, but Holy Strike and Crusader Strike add so much early oompf it literally feels like cheating

>>534607434
enjoy your level scaling anon

>>534607287
>this is the creature trying to make shortstack a thing

>>534607373
>playing literally any other class than paladin on turdle
i sure hope you dont intended on trying pvp on their either

>>534605427
This argument is retarded because whatever alleged gold advantage you make by these things is completely overshadowed by farming lashers which anyone can do.

So will I get to play this weekend?

what're the 1.12.1 client fix mods called? I want to be able to play wallcraft in boderless window mode

>>534607749
Not really. Hardly even worth using the mana over typical seal/auto/judgement which already rapes everything in your path.

>How dare Paladins do anything but auto attack for 60 levels

Real shit why don't people want to play tanks in classic?

>>534607894
Warrior is literally better than Paladin in both PvE and PvP lol right now lol.

>>534607373
>"turdle wow is the crux of vanilla game design"
>"IT'S NOT A FUN SERVER YOU SHITTER!!!!!!!!"
>meanwhile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZEBIxD5XgM

>>534608005
you can already play wallcraft in borderless window anon

>>534607939
No, the last update clearly said the servers would not be up this weekend

>>534608049
no one wants to play tank ever because of responsibility

>>534608009
Holy Strike is literally free damage, it refunds it's own cost.

>>534607894
Druid and Warrior are better than Paladin on Turtle right now. Also next patch will make Shaman better than Paladin.

Funny how they're supposedly the developer's favorite class but half the others mog Paladin.

>>534607939
Yes. For how long? We'll see.

>>534608030
Unironically yes. Paladin gameplay from early RPGs and MMOs was way more unique and in line with Paladin RP. Now they're just cookie cutter DPS spammers.

>>534607919
if everyone is limited by instance count on lashers on turtle then yeah i guess

>>534608049
Because you only need two tanks for raids and those spots will always be filled.
If you want to raid, you need to be a healer.

>>534608089
jfc

>>534608123
whenever i choose the option "windowed" from the video settings, my screen goes black otherwise it launches in fullscreen exclusive

>>534608252
If you want to just spam auto attacks just go play vanilla wow forever. Never understood you retards that cry about every change.

>>534608005
VanillaTweaks and VanillaFixes. Both do different things but I'm pretty sure Fixes is the one that gives modern screen size and performance support.

he could've fixed this...

P.S.: When is this fucking website going to do something about .webp?

I really really really really want to quest here.

kinda want to try healing for once
priest or resto shaman

POCHIE DECEMBER

>>534608089
You guys realize you're gonna be able to do this on Epoch with TBC talents too right?

>>534608049
im playing prot pal on pochie!
***tankxiety is real*

>>534608516
but that doesn't fit the narrative sis

>>534608089
this doesn't look like lasher farming...
>>534607919
bag space will matter hugely for this, just like ZF/mara/etc farming on mage in classic

>>534608516
proof?

>>534608089
>big pull = fun server
Stop disrespecting fun servers. They were the of peak WoW pservers.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go download Unlimited WoW and relive my the glry days one more time.
Jumping puzzle party, anyone?

>>534608368
prsss the maximzed option below "Window Mode"

>>534608462
do you want to be a totemslut?

>Epoch devs stop responding for the weekend
>Nothing new to complain about
>Complain about other servers instead

>buff enemy health pools
>lower mana costs
I dont understand the reasoning behind this, I'm guessing the scaling gets better later on but it makes abilities feel way less impactful which is exactly why I hate retail

>>534608089
>way stronger than a lvl 70 paladin
turtlesisters... this is really your server?

>>534608516
Nothing I saw from epoch pally even lends itself to being able to mass pull like this.

>>534608089
Bro what the fuck did this guy just pull every mob on turtle wow as a paladin?

>>534608410
It's not just auto attacking though. You clearly don't even play Paladin lol. Seal and Aura twisting is peak Paladin.

>>534608516
>>534608603
epoch changed max number of targets on AoE damage thoughbeit... and there's no "vampirism" shit, whatever that means. lifesteal? gigaretarded to give that to everyone.

>>534608192
If they ever unfuck resto Druid I would main it on there.

>"RPGs are all about the progression and finding creative ways to push the game to its limits through clever building and itemizing!"
>someone does exactly that
>FUNSERVER FUNSERVER FARMING A SPECIFIC SET OF GEAR AND BUILDING YOUR CHARACTER FOR ONE SPECIFIC TASK IS A FUNSERVER!!!!
This is why you all deserve nublizz slop

>>534608089
>pooch dead
>thought about rolling turtle
>it's actually just as bad as ascension
im going back to starsector

>>534603561
Melee dps eat healers for breakfast
What class are you playing? INB4 2h war priest

Get out of tier1

>>534608705
it's le engaging because you get to press your 1 key 10 times per mob instead of 3

>>534608831
It's an MMO you shouldn't be able to do things like that. It's fun in singleplayer games sure.

>>534607373
I WILL play warrior!
I WILL tank!
I WILL make frens!
I WILL have fun!
I WILL also grind rep for a different mount since the gobbo mount looks dumb as shit and I don't like it.

>>534608705
Actually looks fine to me. Mages were always way more OP than every other class at low levels (2 hits to kill vs ~5). Open world balance seems to be one of the few things Ascension is getting right.

>>534608089
Of this was possible in vanilla you people would be defending it as "soulful game design"

can all turdle shills just go and pay their $400 for their mounts/illusions/conveniences and afk in org like everyone else on the server? if 'pochie is as bad as you say it is then it will die without your shilling

>>534608516
epoch nerfed aoe farming so i don't see how lil bro.

>>534608831
mages pulling dungeons and kiting them is clever, this guy is just tanking everything due to retarded game design by turdtle devs

>>534608831
RPGs are actually about losing yourself in another world so that you don't kill yourself in the real one.

>>534608992
if that was possible in vanilla, everyone would be a paladin.

>>534608728
>epoch pally
It's a fucking TBC pally and yes they can pull like this.

>>534609061
There it is there it is!!!
>>534608992

>>534608831
Its a MMORPG. It should be impossible to solo dungeons on level.

>>534608089
yeah i think i'll wait for epoch

>>534609145
They literally cannot.

>>534608705
>it makes abilities feel way less impactful which is exactly why I hate retail

What do you mean bro pressing 3x as many abilities for the same result is totally engaging man! Next you're going to say you don't like building and spending or 3 minute DPS cooldowns you casual.

>>534608089
bros, ive seen retoiletrannies pull an entire zone in one video
but that was 250 dungeon mobs in one video
>turtlegods even MORE powerscaled than retail

>>534609013
Not very vanilla like of them

>Doing massive AoE pulls on Ascension and making the content look like a joke
What the fuck is this funserver bullshit? Retail is supposed to be about the world being dangerous, if you can aoe pull an entire dungeon how is that vanilla??? SLOP
>Doing massive AoE pulls on Turtle and making the content look like a joke
You see he built his character just for this it's not a funserver just because he can do the exact same thing as I called the other server a funserver for it's soulful and comfy and vanillalike!

Why is it that everything Ascension gets rightfully criticized for like it's jewish cashshop and clown balance, suddenly isn't a problem and is actually heckin wholesome when Turtle does the exact same thing?

other thread is not even on page 10 yet

>>534607373
Turtle shit the bed with Ret in Turtle
Replaced seal twisting, which is cool and sovl while serving as a necessary shitter filter, with cookie cutter faceroll hence why any shitter can pwn with them which had completely thrown balance out the window

>>534608831
>wear overtuned bis armor with overtuned custom talents andmass pull endgame dungeon solo which wasnt done until 70
Yeah so clever how he just tanked those mobs
>nublizz slop
Very fun too being a god playing solo, totally unlike retail right?

>>534609154
except it's not the same at all turdtlebrain, mages don't tank entire dungeons

>>534609254
Ascension is criticized for its content. Turtle is criticized for its balance.

what's wrong with funservers when it's "fun"?

>>534609254
Gee I wonder why it's not like there's 50 turtle trannies in here shilling and shitposting 24/7 versus the 1 guy who's playing bronzebeard

>mages able to outfarm everybody completely naked just by speccing into one talent
>SOVL, KINO, AMAZING GAME DESIGN
>one paladin farms gear for months to do the same
>UMMMM NOT OKAY, NOT SOVL
do niller fags really?

im playing prot paladin on pochie!

>>534609254
They're deflecting, duh.

>>534608831
>actually it's okay for me to kill 250 mobs in max level dungeon
troondles are so fucking delusional

>having FUN is now a bad thing
so I guess this means epoop isn't fun then?

>>534609356
it's like giving yourself creative mode in minecraft and turning off the game after 15 minutes. most people don't think funservers have longevity becasue all in all wow is about suffering.
suffering leveling, suffering ganks and most importantly suffering other players.
funservers let you have fun without suffering so the fun is worthless.

These threads have made me increasingly more racist towards Russians & other third worlders.

>pally supposed to be amazing in turtle
>also have sealtwisting gutted
What's the fucking point

>it's not a fun server unless you can pull 250 mobs in Naxxramas!!!

>>534609443
one of them requires many hours of practice, and one bad move or failed pull means you instantly die. let's be honest we both know you could never finish a mara pull even if your IRL life depended on it. you probably can't even do basic ZF grave pulls, which is why you defend lamebrained shit like a paladin facetanking 250 mobs in strat.

>>534609254
Real Turtle fans complain about this shit in hopes that it gets changes.
>implying complaining on 4chan will change anything

>>534609443
Its not even as mystical as people are making it out to be. Its only possible because of that ring he moused over which gives 3% lifesteal.

>>534609661
why?
also private servers should have done that, if you play on warmane you'll hate all of eastern euro within a month.

>>534608705
I didn't feel any difference on my warrior, I thought the early mobs didn't get their healths buffed

>thread has just devolved into seething about more popular servers while you pretend epoch isn't DoA
sad

>>534609640
Trivial things cannot be fun. Fun comes from overcoming challenges, preferably as a group in mmos.

>>534609741
shit i think kes reads 4chan so you could solve epoch maybe.

for me, a funserver is a server where it rains a lot. rain is kino

>>534609640
Fun is for children
Friction and overcoming limitations create rewarding experience

>>534609647
Yeah, you definitely never played an actual fun server back in the day lol
>jumping puzzles
>escape rooms
>pvpve events
>race events
You don't need to suffer to have fun you miserable retard. Fun is fun.

>>534609740
>Facetanking
>Video shows they're not facetanking and have to kite almost the entire way
All they're doing is slowly tickling mobs to death with consecration+3% lifesteal while kiting them.

>>534609807
troondle shills are welcome to fuck off to their own general, oh wait, it died miserably before bump limit

>>534609740
Mage AoE farming doesn't require hours of practice lmfao
I levelled a mage and figured it out in 10 minutes. Dungeons are literally just abusing pathing which any moron can figure out by using their eyeballs to look at the dungeon layout.
Tranimal posters are the funniest retards.

>>534608089
The Light Prevails and Brings RETRIBUTION and VENGEANCE to the UNDEAD SCUM

>>534609979
post your mara 1 pull

>>534608623
maximized is greyed out for me :(

>>534609951
those aren't fun servers and not what the phrase means.

aoe farming is nerfed bigly on epoch, mage nor paladin will be able to pull entire dungeons. which is a good thing, no class should be several order of magnitudes stronger at farming than everyone else.

>>534609925
For me the best server would have a toggle that lets you turn on the extreme vanilla weather effects like the snow in dun morogh, heavy rain jason and the sandstorms in tanaris

>it takes hours of practice to learn how to cast blizzard on a pack of mobs
this guy can't be fucking serious

>>534610107
Why did they get rid of it bros?

Thing I like being powerful: Soulful, original, honest
Thing I dislike being powerful: Soulless, funserver, fake

Time for sleep and after that only 1 more sleep till Pochie.

Night night nonnies.

>>534610095
Consecration literally isn't affected by the AoE cap since it's a ground effect. Same with Flamestrike.

>>534608705
to me it just feels like their other servers

>>534610039
looking forward to farming sm on my undead paladin

>>534610086
must be something wrong with your gpu ? all i did was download the Elysium 1.12.1 client then downloaded the 3-8 patches from Wallcraft website
absolutely nothing else

>>534610216
Good sleeps qtie

>>534609979
>>534610135
proving my point, absolutely clueless

>>534610207
this.
So much this sister.
Oh my god you're so right.

>>534610095
Consecration bypasses aoe cap on epoch. Everyone loves paladins yay yay!

>>534609951
retard this isn't garrys mod what the fuck are you talking about. most fun servers had malls and leveling roads and just let you go out and fly around doing what the fuck ever. we use it as a way to describe something being so unblizzlike

I like how you can tell it's shit because every OP is just reusing whitemane ai gooner bait from 6 years ago, don't even need to look it up I guarantee the entire project is a disaster

So these mage boosting is easy posters were all millionaires from selling mara and ZG boosts I guess right?

>>534602020 (OP)
THE AMBERSHIRE HYPE?
>AMBERSHIRE HYPE
>AMBERSHIRE HYPE

going with warlock. prepare to be 1-shotted by me in pvp.

>>534610090
That is actually EXACTLY what the phrase "fun server" means lol.
>Unlimited WoW
>WoW Mania
>Eternal WoW
These are fun servers. It doesn't just mean any server with strong class balance lmao.

>>534609807
it's normal behavior as we are transitioning from anger to depression

>>534610335
I was one of them on classic yeah

>>534610335
Post your video of doing the paladin one pull on turtle right now
oh you cant
hehe

I think people secretly don't want to admit Bronzebeard is the next Nostalrius

>>534610340
>pvp
huh?

>>534610374
nah it's not talking about jump puzzles and escape rooms you missed the point entirely.

>>534610231
>>534610305
there's no "vampirism" so there's no way for you to survive while conc slowly kills mobs

>>534610278
Thanks for the help.
I needed to add
SET gxMaximize "1"
SET gxWindow "1"
to the config file

>>534610307
>most fun servers had malls and leveling roads and just let you go out and fly around doing what the fuck ever.
Yes. And those servers also had jumping puzzles, race tracks, and everything else I listed lol.
You tards never actually played them and.

>>534610527
esoteric shit
you should work for epoch

>>534610340
>turdle
>pvp

>>534603826
From the stream we just had, there was more, like a new prison dungeon in Durnholde Keep with hidden sections.

>>534610514
The point is that Paladins will still be soloing dungeons (they did even in vanilla), just not pulling them all at once. What is your cutoff for funserver status? 3 packs? Seems autistic.

>>534610039
>playing holy paladin
>ret paladin from LOS CONQUISTADORES in my dungeon
>ask him to put up another aura
>says he hasn't trained it

bro wallcraft adds the hunger and thirst stacks while you're offline wtf

>>534610492
No, anon is just using the phrase incorrectly. I understand the point he was trying to make. I'm saying that he's using the wrong phrase entirely to describe his issue.

>>534610335
no, the real way to be a millionaire is to bot gathering nodes or easy farms, and then have crafting alts that can turn resources into the highest profit margin items that can be sold on AH.

>>534610638
They have locked instance portals for planned future content, but those wont be in at launch. And its not on the roadmap.

>>534610698
what? my char has never gotten offline hunger or thirst wtf?

vvallcraft should add foraging skill desu

>>534610645
It's +1 above whatever epoch allows you to get away with

>>534610135
that's right, even Pirate Software couldn't do it

>>534610736
I mean if we are cheating you could have just fly hacked the mage farms and then it really is easy.

>>534610645
>3 packs
let's say 5 mobs per pack, so 15.
>turdle paladin pulling 250
i wouldn't say a 16x difference is autistic

>/epog/ discovers whataboutism
be more like the anime posters, notice how the hapless plying of your limited intellects only leads to spite and irresolution.

>>534604726
They nerfed elemental to the ground and enhance was always a meme spec
Is the new lightning strike that much of a game changer?
It can't proc WF IIRC

>>534610691
Yeah that's how usually how it goes on turtle, things like that happened so often that I misread ret paladin as retard paladin. The worst is when they don't have Redemption.

>>534610981
>be more like the anime posters
No.

>>534610335
we all know these dudes can't even aoe murlocks without dying several times per hour

https://youtu.be/fp9nHKks6P8?t=701
Ugh this fucking funserver bullshit

>>534610698
Just checked my toon and he's chillin with 0 stacks. You sure you didn't AFK at some point?

>>534610547
faggot i was playing pservers since 2007 before Wrath was even revealed. they were dogshit, poorly scripted and had overpowered armor and spells and shit. I had a good fucking time but they werent minigames and shit like you're implying. yeah I played whatever that fucking server was with the ascending chair stack to heaven, that isn't what people refer to when they say "fun server".
a fun server is the equivalent to creative mode on minecraft, you get all the items you want, you are invincible and fly around. servers like warmane that were stock mangos had shit blues dropping every kill, we called that fun server. turtle wow you are a fucking god tank farming a max level dungeon with your cute custom talents and gear, thats a fun server.

>>534611116
Wow what bad pserver is that??? Vanilla devs would have never allowed something like this to happen in their sovlful game!!!

>>534611116
>this is totally the same as killing 250 mobs in max lvl dungeon
fuck you troondles really are like r*ssians with the constant WHAT ABOUT THIS FALSE EQUIVALENCE?

>>534611116
>level 70

>>534611116
>Level 70

>>534611116
I'd like to have ten level advantage on Epoch as well.

>>534611116
>>534611328
>level 70
At least watch the video before posting it zoomie

>>534611021
>"bro they like, totally nerfed eles man"
>deletes you with lb+chl into earthshock for 5k noncrit dmg

>>534611180
Nah, I'm able to do it because my hand is guided by GOD himself

I am a Warrior of Light. I bring VENGEANCE. REPENTANCE. JUSTICE. RETRIBUTION. THE LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS.

>epoch shills damage controlling this hard
lmfaoooo

>>534611084
haha! i love this guy

>>534611116
>>534611328
How can you lose an argument so bad you use the greatest evidence on why your server is fucking retarded against yourself and then try and spin it otherwise?

>>534611116
>lvl 70
troondles...

>>534610917
You're acting like the paladin is standing there tanking 250 enemies. They're doing essentially the same thing as mages did in vanilla/TBC where you kite enemies through AoEs for 10 minutes.

>>534611116
>https://youtu.be/fp9nHKks6P8?t=701
>you can start the strat aoe farm soon after hitting level 70!
lol dishonest turdletard

>still no server
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>"dude ele shamans on turtle fucking SUCK they got nerfed hard man
>random fresh 60 niggershaman in lvl 50 dungeon blues and kara10/mc epics

THURRSDAYY POCHIIIEEEEE

HEEEEEREEEE'S POOOOCHIEEEEEEEEE

OPEN UUUUPPPPPP

*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*
*CRACK*

>>534611569
If thats your best evidence, you're gonna need some better detectives. Heh.

<Anime mafia> will be the dominating guild

>>534611116
i mean if you just walk around OG and inspect half the players their stamina, AP, and spell power are even higher than TBC so this is a fair equivalent

>>534611770
you lost

>>534610736
even if you're not cheating, selling boosts is never the most efficient thing. that would probably be GDKPs, since you effectively become a tax on all ongoing farmers.

>>534611180
>they werent minigames and shit like you're implying
The popular ones were, like Unlimited.
>that isn't what people refer to when they say "fun server".
It's what everyone who isn't a zoomer retard refers to a fun server as. Look up "fun realm" on any private server list site and see what servers pop up.

I can't wait for monday's "just a couple more days" update.

>>534611607
>They're doing essentially the same thing as mages did in vanilla/TBC
lmfao, not even close. he's just running while facetanking, it's "kiting" but zero technique. there's no skill displayed at all. he's just abusing an obviously busted game mechanic (lifesteal)

>>534611854
On Ambie?

Yeah. You make the guild?

>>534611882
meant for >>534610913

>>534611770
You're STILL mad about this?

>>534611875
lost my vcard to your mom 15 years ago yea

>>534611889
you lost, get over it. that lvl 70 video your troonmates thought was vanilla sovl is exactly why turtlewow is a funserver. simple as.

What about Bronzebeard?

I'M IN

>uhhhh Ambershire chuds….

>>534612068
hey look it's the avatarfag who won't get banned

>>534612103
1. I don't play Turtle.
2. You're literally the only person on the internet using the term "fun server" to describe anything besides a 255 server.

>>534612172
zamn, every time i see this the stairs just keep getting higher

>>534612172
10/10 effort shitpost bro

>>534605218
is this real

GIVE ME EPOCH

>>534612174
DO NOT POST THE KEZAN STREAMER IMAGE
DONT DO IT

>>534611438
Skill issue
Use your lifegiving gem and whipper root tubber lmao

>>534612045
Maybe.

>>534612152
Looks neat, but it isn't what I want out of a vanilla+ server.
>>534612203
Only until I do

>>534612293
what's a kezan streamer? i don't think such a thing exists.

Has there been any updates on epoch? Is it still this retarded stealth launch+retarded community managers giving false hope?

Do you guys think they'll attempt another launch next week or will they wait for turtle?

Highest level so far?

Epoch sissys... where did it all go so wrong???

>>534612326
>lifegiving gem and whipper root tubber
I use zanza to watch you mouthbreathing mongrel kill yourself with your own lb+chl cuz it reflects both despite being 2 seperate spells, doesn't change the fact that ele is a class for mouthbreathing niggers

>>534612474
Devs got filtered by a wall. Ambershire launch in a week, gonna be big

s-surely someone isn't earnestly autistic enough to trip/avatarfag in 2025

>>534612174
>Anon discovers problems and statistics

Predictions on the next pathetic excuse from the devs?

>>534608089
>he even pulls The Unforgiven so it's 249 dungeon mobs + 1 boss
>he tanked that
"Vanilla+"

>>534609740
>watching a youtube video explaining in detail how to mage pull takes years of practice
there is nothing more pathetic than the wow player

>>534612703
It was a social experiment

>>534612703
i think it's over, man

>>534612474
I don't think anyone is giving false hope any more. The devs are busy dilating (literally), dealing with mental health issues while dilating, and figuring out what to do next and if it's even salvageable.

>>534612703
>Due to some internal issues with staff we have decided to postpone the official re-launch of Epoch WoW until October 24. We are hopeful about this opportunity as we have already had very qualified programmers reaching out to help us with this passion project.

>>534608089
that's it, i'm resubbing to WoW tonight.

Pochie Monday

>>534612898
no way they would give a date that far out, kaytotes will be vague and insist on stringing everyone along and creating the impression that the server could launch any day now

>>534612703
>Monday
Someone tried to hack the server so Kaytotes needs to reinstall everything it's going to take a couple days
>Thursday
Kes' cat died and they just can't go on without her so it's going to be a couple more days
>Sunday
Their IPs got leaked and their personal home internet is getting DDoS'd so it's going to be a couple more days
>Teusday
The server is ready to launch they just need to do a couple more tests, the servers will come up sporadically over the next couple days.
>Friday
After doing their tests they figured out they need to do a little more core work, launch is just around the corner in a couple more days

>>534612898
immaculate vibez has left the chatroom...

>>534612575
Turtle messed up by not having their fresh ready to launch even sooner. A missed opportunity, to be sure.

>>534612898
Leaker, gift of apollo, or time traveler?

Either way screenshoting this.

>>534612823
huh? you can't read english? then turdle will be perfect for you lil buddy

>>534612703
I'm glad you have enough hope to think we're going to GET an excuse, my copium reserves are all but gone.

>>534613067
>Wednesday
dog at my server
>Saturday
my 5th grandma died

who wants in on the SoD guild?
fresh start
no LGBTQIA

>you will never get to level here

>>534613075
>kezan-streamer.jpg
kek, saved to my pajeet folder

>introduces 100k classic andies to private servers
>doesn't even give us a server to play
project epoch will be remembered as the second worst thing that has happened to private servers, topped only by the release of classic wow

gnome start zone looks so cozy at night

>>534612174
There will be guilds from many eu countries, what's your point? Just checked and I could see french, russian, turk, polish, danish. I suppose the south american server worked because there aren't any guilds from there. Still will only play if Epoch isn't stable by then, and will drop it once Epoch is stable.

honestly if updates are transparent and honest i can wait for a long time. 90% of their updates assume i'm retarded though

POCHIE NEVER

>>534613506
Idk gum gum the crip crip and his multiple scam servers where he creeps on all your whispers and sucks off grizzly is pretty high tier too, and people still fall for his scams

>>534608089
>About 12% Vampirism with Force Reactive Disk (not sure why it wasnt breaking this run, normally breaks fast hence why I bought repair bot).
no wonder

>>534613506
at least classic WoW gave us somewhere to play

>>534613136
The concept of aoeing a bunch of mobs is a very basic concept that is present in many other games. People on those other games don't act like they're elite gamers for stacking a bunch of mobs and aoeing them down. My grandma could do these things you take so much pride on.

>>534613535
not badio

>>534613535
way too dark. i want to see where i am going, not have a realistic night simulator. criticism for pretty much all games though.

>>534613535
is this some kind of island/instance separate from EK?

>>534613535
SOVL

>>534613713
seriosuly, you think THAT is too dark?

>>534613535
wow what an awesome starting zone i love having to walk 15 minutes to get to enemies and then 15 minutes back to hand in the quest. this is much better than immedietly spawning next to quests and enemies

>>534613713
you are the type of normie that ruins all survival elements in MMOs. fuck off.

>>534613647
stop, some people were talking about roping in the past 24 hours. be constructive please.

>>534613686
either you're pretending to be stupid, or you actually are that stupid. we both know you can't do a mara 1 pull no matter how many youtube videos you watch.

>>534613686
Theres a lot of nuance and technique involved in single pulling a dungeon. Many of the jumps are pixel perfect, and being behind on your pulls for half a second will get you killed.

>>534613535
>the only way to play Epoch is by living vicariously though youtube updates
lol

>>534613535
Looks neat, wish they added it later when it made sense instead of rushing and bricking anvilmar.

>>534613867
>faggot complains about walking in a walking sim
kek

>>534613713
>way too dark
so are you

>>534613713
i think you need to check your monitor settings or get your eyes checked

POCHIE THURSDAY!!!

>>534613713
get your eyes checked

>>534613234
I'm still having a little fun shitposting but I've long accepted this is most likely a lost cause at this point. Still though I think they may string us along for a little bit more.

>>534607147
tight onepiece, my only weakness. extra points for gobo

>>534613867
>I NEED INSTANT GRATIFICATION
sounds like retail is more your speed lil bro

>>534613864
yes, much too dark. i have to crank up my gamma by 25-50% when i play any version of WoW or pretty much any 3D game.

Pochie... Is Kill?

>>534614067
Sounds like an issue with your monitor bro

>>534613535
holy

>>534614094
resting

>>534614067
you could just embrace the dark.
oled or crt is perfect for this.

>>534613957
kek

anyone know if there's a Karos Online private server? i want to go on a nostalgia trip hard

>>534613814
no it's using a previously unused area northwest of dwarf zone

>wakey wakey! TurtleWon!!

didn’t even get a reach around from epoch, huh?

turtle can fix that. go ahead, apologize

>>534613535
IATA, this i what i am talking about, not the caves or near torches. it's literally all black.

the last (maybe only) open world 3d game where i don't recall having needed to fuck with my monitor settings and/or system settings for gamma is maybe Skyrim.

>>534614340
I wonder if they will ever expand that area west of Tirisfal.

>>534613713
Weak.

>>534613894
>>534613930
>You WOULD NEVER be able to jump back and forth on the ZF walls, I trained for decades to achieve Perfection
Jfc... Like I said there's nothing more pathetic than the wow player. I bet you're the kind of guy who played this game for 20 years but never tried tanking because it makes you too nervous Lmao

>>534612703
Either they somehow lost days of progress and need to start all over (stolen laptop, fucked up the database and they have no backup.. you know the drill)
or
Key member in the team caught the flu and can't work for the week

Please understand

>>534614361
I'll only play turtle if I'm guaranteed a tranny gf into giving me foot jobs

>>534614362
>it's literally all black
buy a new monitor man what the fuck

>>534614362
bro

>>534608089
Turdle sisters, I thought we had the Classic+ experience? You can't even do pulls like that on ascension...

>>534614521
This. They have to play fem nelfie too.

>>534614439
projection, and yes you probably would even fail at farming ZF

>>534613867
They do this to every zone they mess with, Goldshire went from a cozy pitstop to a large area with basically empty houses for no reason other than to double your travel time.

>>534613713
Nighttime is dark as shit in general on Epoch. I couldnt see shit in Elwynn.

>>534614438
sovl
I've seen alpha wow pictures where they wanted to do that with duskwood and add offhand torches, would have been kino if they actually implemented it there and in a later zone or two

>>534614008
They'll try to for sure, but when even their redditor white knights are sick of their shit I don't know how they'll respond. Probably with another meltie maybe? It's going to be something we haven't thought of and surpass our expectations of how retarded and inept they can be.

>>534614067
might be time to get glasses, unc

>>534613713
You might want to turn your monitor brightness up lol, because that is not difficult to see at all.

>>534613535
>11sec
The entrance has fucked up shadows but everything else looks amazing

>>534614438
is EQ comfy?
is it fun? I've played FFXI which is apparently inspired by it

>>534614521
hi

>>534614054
>sounds like retail is more your speed lil bro
But, it's the Vanilla game that spawns you right by the quest NPCs and Retail where you spawn by a shore and have to go find your quest hub lol...

>>534614784
ffxi is pretty literally a close of eq

>>534614917
you seem to be an expert on retail, go back there lil bro

>>534614784
XI is literally just Japanese EQ but it actually has a storyline.

>>534614362
>it's literally all black.
Time to open that wallet up unc. That monitors toast.

I've tried rogue in turtle and I just can't deal with the energy system, it regens way too slow.
Once you emptied it in 1second thanks to shorter GCD you're left with nothing to do but wait 4 seconds to use another sinister strike

I think I'm going warrior for Poochi in 2026

>>534614340
intredasting....

>>534614362
You definitely have something fucked up with your monitor settings. The fact you have to adjust EVERY game should have made that obvious.

>>534614362
fuck wow brats are so spoiled I swear

We're all on Turtle btw if you didn't know

>>534614619
of course because it's so hard only the best of the best jeet boosters can pull it off
get a fucking grip, at least the pala isn't abusing reset spots (which are an oversight by the devs of the 20 year old game, not a feature)

>>534614784
It's peak comfy and pure sovl. But you have to play the early game, like on P99. It pretty quickly went to shit after the first 2 expansions.
I guess WoW learned from the best.

pochie are the type of fags to introduce an auto-moderator filter to their in-game chat

7 more days until Ambershire

>>534614362
you shouldn't have to adjust your monitor settings at all for any game dude what are you talking about.

>>534614438
oh my god

is this what black people see all the time?

>>534614279
anyone know if there's even such a thing? karos:arena is russian so it doesn't really work for what im looking for

I'm thinking to go play L2 classic should I do it

>>534615264
>types Higger instead of Hogger
>permaban

>>534614438
if zoomies encountered this theyd be mindbroken

>>534615404
way too pay to win to be fun

>>534615264
Have we reached the point where you're just inventing imagined scenarios now?

>>534615234
no ZF is by far the easiest big mage farm, and the seething retard would still manage to fail at it

>>534614438
this is like in Arma 2 DayZ when you HAD to turn your gamma all the way up

>>534609443
>mages able to outfarm everybody completely naked just by speccing into one talent
confirmed for having never done it. what mobs you can farm depends on your max mana and your gear. you also can't farm any pack that has ranged or caster mobs in it. also it requires way more skill and practice than a paladin tanking everything

white "people" be like
>The devs dont owe you anything. It's a free fan project.

>>534615110
that sounds exactly like combat rogue in vanilla doe, especially at lower levels. even at 60 ur pressing nothing for seconds at a time even with energy pots

>>534615509
anything's possible with those satanic jews in charge
>>534615619
i've seen more desperate ESL browns say that than anyone else

>>534614784
it can be comfy but personally i find it rather stressful because you have to manage so much and it's so punishing, plus playing with other people means they're relying on you

>>534614361
>Free
You mean I'd usually have to pay for it?

>>534614438
why did MnM think it's okay to take this and make it EVEN DARKER?

Should I play frost mage, ret paladin, or holy paladin for Turtle fresh.

>>534614856
hi
what color do you paint your toes?

>>534615613
>also it requires way more skill and practice than a paladin tanking everything
As someone who regularly AoE farms on both classes this isn't true. They're different forms of skill. Properly seal/aura twisting is highly volatile and you can quickly go from comfy to almost dead or OOM just because you waited a second too long to swap or Judged the wrong seal.

>>534615759
Dwarf Holy Paladin

>>534615739
Because they knew that people would max out gamma so they made it look like that at max gamma.
Genius really.

>>534615759
helf holy paladin so you can healslut

>>534615759
Go ask in the turtle general faget

>>534615759
frost mage looks kinda ass from the talents on their website at least. i'm guessing arcane dumpsters the other specs in PvE.

>>534615759
Holy for my protbull

>>534615537
So let me get this straight, aoe pulls that are enabled through exploits (reset spots aren't intentional game design) are ok but that paladin pulling strat isn't? Because... what?

>>534615759
if you're playing mage or paladin you might as well pick the AOE specs. for frost, that's based on CoC slows and arcane or fire for AOE. for paladin, it's the tanking spec with some optimizations.

the new gnome zone looks great desu

poochie..

>>534615739
Because they also added more types light sources and actually made them intuitive to acquire. Unlike in EQ where you had to farm Fire Beatles until their fucking eye dropped, or be lucky enough to find the single shop out of 50 in your starting area that carries a torch lol.

>>534616038
GIWTWM

>>534615973
>So let me get this straight,
somehow i douybt

im not playing turtle thoughbeit

>>534615759
frost mage or holy pally so we can be frens c:

>>534615759
>2 min
>6 replies
this is the turtle general after all.
pochie xisters???

>>534615973
If something isnt patched, its intentional. If anything, removing those spots like Epoch does is anti-soul.

>>534615739
Just roll up a class that starts with a light source item lol.

>>534616125

so tired of efficiencyfags / esportsfags ruining every game. remember when counter-strike had night maps?
or when WoW alpha had pitch black nights?

>>534616272
I did but it ran out of fuel...

>>534616267

>>534616038
foreveial tied up gnome just loving it literally like a machine

>>534616125
tranny you lost

>>534616330
Could always play Easy mode and choose a class that has Ultravision :P

>>534616327
My honorable Paladin will not solo Strat even if he could. He will bring in 4 of his greatest champions to bolster their spirit and coffers.

>>534615761
white, pink or very light shade of peach

>>534616267
>>534616124
>This was totally intentional planned design by the genius developers of world of warcraft, they thought of everything!
>If you practice for thousands of years like me, you too can be become a pro gamer mastermind and sit in this vase
>WHAT?! Paladins aoe pulling? THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

>>534616307
offtopic, but is that dude's entire shtick just having the most bland zoomer takes?

Ayo hol up
So you be sayin that Ulmetr wasnt even part of the original team and was just called in as freelancer to fix this mess?
LOL!

>they stole this

>>534616728
>just called in as freelancer to fix this mess?
Better, he just showed up one day and started helping. They didn't even ask for them.

>>534616267
Nah Blizz were just notoriously incompetent and amateurish in Vanilla, by their own admittance even. Half of the OG dev team also left before they launched.

>>534616682
bro the original video was posted almost an hour ago and it's a saturday, do you have nothing better to do?
I care nothing about palandins aoe pulling before you start having a melty at me

>>534616810
My brother the entire private server scene is 'stolen'

>>534616810
someone contact Blizzard.

>>534616810
that's the entire point retard

well that's it, im going back to warmane, the only place where im not going to lag
ill check on this in 2 years

>>534616810

>>534616810
I'm glad they got rid of those weird metal things at the end.

>>534609443
turtle has this for hunters too. i love AOE farming with explosive traps and kiting. it's kino gameplay.

>>534617030
levels of sovl that will never be seen on this gay earth again

>>534616502
not bad not bad... what shoesize though?

>>534616810
thatsthejoke.gif

>>534609443
me when i haven't yet found out different classes are good at different things

>>534609443
Both are bad. Hence why Epoch is the peak for manually going in and nerfing mages and popular exploit locations.

pvre sovl

>>534616810
cool, can they steal a server that works next?

>All the new zones look great with that normal vanilla feel
>Quests played so far fit in so perfectly
>TBC class balance with some minor updates to expand options
>3.3.5 client that feels great and some content can be backported into vanilla
>Devs that seem to take care in curating their world, expanding what needs to be expanded upon without over-indulging too much
>A huge playerbase full of hype that all wants the same things
>Turtle/Bronzebeard devs BTFO by the pure hype this server generated, they are forced to shill so hard for their shitty broken servers, they even buy google ads for Epoch status websites
>Devs just can't get the coding right so we can all play and experiance what Classic+ could actually be
It's not fair.

I really hope they can fix it, I tried Turtle and it was just garbage, just looking at the talent trees and seeing the shitty custom quests. Then I looked at BB and it's just so much retail it has no SOVL

>A million fucking elves in retail
How would you guys differentiate different Orcs, Dwarves, or Trolls?
Would love to see a game where Amani forest Trolls were more berserker dps like, while Drakkari frost trolls were all about communing with their primal gods

>>534617280
Half of them trooned out

>>534616961
>hmmm I lost the argument what should I try next?
>dude it's a saturday bro

>>534617298
It'll all work out anon.

>>534617280
>all indian

>>534617298
Your idea of classic+ is lame as fuck

>>534617261
the server itself is the joke

>>534617298
Habe faith brother (and patience)

>>534617437
well whats your idea of classic+?
turtle's lvl 18 turtle mounts?
ascension's level scaling and mythic+?

>>534617424
not indian, they're amerimutts

>>534617280
>the one woman bottom left who was getting fondled by everyone in the office on the daily

>>534617580
That's a man

>>534617556
Turtle would be perfect if not for the shop. Its actual content is peak classic+.

>>534617658
LOL

How do I uninstall this shit?

>>534617304
>Mag'har orcs: shamans, hunters, warriors
>Greenshitter orcs: warlocks, rogues
>Wildhammer dwarves: shamans
>All other dwarves: all the other shit

>>534617658
it's really flat tbqdesu

>>534617658
>Its actual content is peak classic+.
Holy fucking deluded

>>534617658
>Its actual content is peak classic+.
Every time someone says this and I ask for examples it's always something that looks extremely out of place in the scope of Banilla.

>>534617761
Weren't the Blackrock dwarves super good at mage shit? I'd imagine they'd be fantastic pyromancers and warlocks

>>534617335
im a different anon, just left the thread for a while only to come back to you talking about the same bullshit
rethink your life

>>534617752
That's the thing about rootkits anon - you can't.

>>534617298
>can't code right
can't code at all*

>>534617298
>>Quests played so far fit in so perfectly
Nigga you did 4 quests before the servers went down for 2 weeks

>>534617658
>Constant connection and packet issues
>Lag out the ass
>1.12 slop
>Mods ban you for making people upset
I-it's like i'm really back in vanilla!

>>534616215
i will roll helf mage

>>534617280
White people were better when we looked like this.

>>534617658

TWoW is trash. Everyones standards is low because of no alternative. Look at people clamoring so hard to Epoch despite how little it has to offer and it manages to assblast the Turtle team this hard.

>>534617897
>lose the argument
>"uhm... rethink your life"
really drowning there buddy

>>534618005
NTA but I was able to get in enough times to do every quest in Tirisfal sans the one quest at the Tower near SM. Every new quest fit in pretty fucking seamlessly and wouldn't be out of place in Vanilla.

>>534618147
Ants posted this

>>534617264
They copied that from Turtle btw. And it's the actual peak because it actually works, lmao.

>>534617238
39 EU

>>534612674
this image instills fear in the epoch developers

What am I playing lads?

>>534618552
Zealadin.

>>534618552
Too dark

>>534617298
That's really cool, when can I play it?

>>534617280
>top left
is that....

>>534618552
No matter what, Sorceress first, then whatever you want to actually play

>>534617264

TWoW has already done this for years. The one thing TWoW has over Epoch is mages. They managed to make all 3 specs fun and turn Arcane into bursty Ele Shaman. While saying fuck you to Ele Shamans in the process by removing all burst.

In all the tests and polls, Mage is the least interesting in Epoch. Who gives a shit about conjuring weapons?

>>534618552
second from the left because she looks hot

>>534617967
ok but how

>>534618552
Non expansion poison dagger necro

>>534618552
are you this guy? >>534613713

>>534618746
>Who gives a shit about conjuring weapons?
Me, it sounds fun.

>>534618552
could never get into the expansion pack classes and i leveled an assassin into the 80s i think. hate that they nerfed corpse explode necros early on too. that was such a fun build.

Just play Bronzebeard man, stop being gay.

>>534617804
what is the context of this picture

so what were the epoch devs doing that exhausted them so much

and I'm not talking about ulmetrs, I mean the other devs

>>534617298
>I really hope they can fix it
me too anon, it actually looks great

>>534618290
you are hired
you will receive your complementary stockings and striped thighhigh socks within the next 3 business days

>>534618083
We can be frens and run dungeons together! :) as long as it's deadmines or later since I'm rolling gobbo will you be joining the eventual anon guild?

>>534618910
Bronzebeard is just retail classes in vanilla content, at that point I'd rather play actual retail.

>>534618869

In practicality it has no use. Especially when Blacksmiths can repair now.

>>534618979
of course

anal with midna anon

>>534618919
reading discord

>>534619028
>In practicality it has no use.
*HOOOOOONK MIMIMIMIMIMIMIM* Huh-wha, oh sorry I don't give a fuck about practicality.

do they even have other core devs?
I've only seen ulmetrs push commits and no one else

>>534619210
>do they even have other core devs?
no, that was the problem

>>534618910
I DON'T LIKE RETOILET

>>534619210
The other one deleted his github and left the team

>>534618948
neat! i only play human characters though...

>>534619018
Didn't know retail had melee spec for hunters or shaman tanks

>>534618005
Betas existed and the quests I did in late 30s/early 40s were pretty seamless

>>534602020 (OP)
guh

>>534619319
Magic was not a backend developer

>>534619390
>Didn't know retail had melee spec for hunters
That was added like 9 years ago sis

>>534619168

Then why are you here? TWoW is the gray parse server. Even with Magic gone it's still the community mentality.

>>534619372
that's alright as long as you stay away from wolves

>>534619612
Dang that's cool, can you conjure my water and weapon now?

>>534618840
no, but my first thought was "no way the D2 char select screen was this dark. wasn't there a campfire or something?"

but then i remembered that this is actually a clever part of the char select UX because when you click one of the models it walks up to the camp fire and the model gets fully lit up. i believe the kids these days would call this SOUVL.

>>534619729
put the water in the trade doesn't have as good of a ring to it as put the fries in the bag, but i agree

>>534619612
maybe this guy leaving the team was a good thing for epoch

pochie couldn't even dream of so much sovl

>>534619612
lil bro is right, though

AMBIE SUNDAY

>>534615737
depends on your class and spec

>>534619612
>warcraftlogs was the best thing to happen to classic wow and is the only reason the game stayed alive
trvthnvke

>>534613535
damn, that skybox

>>534619657
well uhm... i hope nothing happens if they catch me wandering completely alone, vulnerable and lost in their territory... but i will stay away!

>>534619789
They begged him to come back after he left the first time, which means the rest of the team is absolutely on board with everything he believes.

>>534620184
>leaves once
>comes back
>leaves again
sounds unreliable, better off without that zoomer

>>534613535
took me a bit to figure this out, i thought it was northrend at first where you get your mechanohog

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