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/sthg/ #8526 - Sonadow Edition
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>>534633172Maybe france should make more Sonic content
>>534632651The real design for the character is a humanized version of that, actually.
>>534633003I do. But the Sonic OC designs themselves aren't the real designs in the actual project. Well, I do plan on using them to some degree, but not as the main designs.
My design philosophy is designing them as Sonic OCs first, and then humanizing them with all those elements carried over.
Reminder that G.U.N contracted a civilian archaeologist to retrieve Gerald's journal from one of Eggman's bases. Humans in Sonic never have powers or super fighting skills. Who the fuck is this Lara Croft ass bitch?
Archie 30YL if it was...good?
>>534633321Well good luck then. I hope you're able to create the story you want
>>534633045ew why are there so many tailspedos here?
>>534632724You're a Sonic the Hedgehog fan. No you fucking don't.
>>534633569Thanks, and good luck to you too!
That whole thread was retarded. Of course the Sonic series has inspirations. It's normal
>>534633432Because she's entitled to the information and has been living a double life to conceal the fact that she is related to the Robotniks. Something only GUN knows
>>534633265I repeat what I said last thread. If you improved both the animation and art style of Underground and gave Sonic's siblings their own VAs it would actually be a good show.
>>534633463>30YL is a boring slog that nobody likes >The only redeeming factor it has is confirming a happy ending for Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles in at least one continuity>Ian thinks this continuity makes Mina a pedophile and doesn't want a predetermined ending so he goes out of its way to create a storyline that utterly destroys the possibility of it being the futureIan ruined Sonally just to get at TailsMina.
>>534633739>Sonic Underground shonen-ecchi from franceI'd watch it.
>>534633172God I miss it. Yumi, my beloved.
It's funny, but the Code Lyoko characters would not look at all out of place in a Sonic game.
>>534633265You joke, but I'd like to see that.
>>534632876 (OP)who the fuck keep making these kind of thread themes like this? jesus fucking christ
>Code Lyoko
>Banger theme song
>Sonic Underground
>Banger theme song
Give it all to france. Just don't let them design the fucking characters dear god.
Sonic should take inspiration from Doctor Who.
>>534634076Shadria shippers are mentally ill
>>534633690Maria and Sage are over the line.
>>534634123>wants to give France a Sonic show>doesn't want them to do the character designsWell what's the fuckin' point then, jackass?
>>534634194Shadow is mentally ill
>>534633997I had a huge crush on Yumi as a kid.
>>534633997For me, it's Aelita.
>>534634297I'm not trying to stare at Sonia's man titties bouncing all the time
It's not sexy it's horrifying.
>>534633045VOTE KNUXOUGE, WE CANNOT LET TAILSPACOS WIN
>>534634272No. People here also always act like it's somehow unheard of and the series is just a Dragon Ball ripoff with nothing original or whatever.
Speaking of Light Mobius, you have prayed and given proper tribute to your Lord and Savior Maria today, yes?
>>534634123>>534634404You are gay. Why are you gay?
Reminder nobody cares about Espada del Coraje and only mention it for tribal fights, but not for its own content.
>>534634564It's not gay to not want to fuck something that sounds like steve urkel
When is Whisper going to become cool like Raiden did?
>>534593154>>Yes, God programmed most peoples' brains to care about sex and feel good to do it, but we have decided not to properly educate you on doing it safely and responsibly because of reasons. >I hate my nation's culture. I bet the Kingdom of Acorn mandates proper sex ed. Sally absolutely would make an executive order to that effect.My country is pro-sex ed... in so far as here's a condom, here's a polystyrene penis, try not to be children about it (girls choose to not, boys mess around), and then more on homosexs than STDs or how STDs effectively discriminate against the homosex for certain reasons.
Dunno what safely and responsibly would be given all the seemingly mandatory pill popping.
Though the new religion in the country has schools that don't allow any of this and it's even more miserable, so swings and roundabouts!
I imagine the Acorn Kingdom would need more home economics and family planning (of the what to do when you have children, not the real euphemism of abortion) lessons with how fast animals go at it.
>>534634503Sonails already won, it was first place when you decided to vote the second place out of spite (as you said in the poll's comments). You basically admitted defeat with both the comments and the post you just made
>>534634538>Most Sonic fans in Latin America and Spain are fans of Dragon Ball>Dragon Ball Z is practically a religion in MexicoI wonder how sane the Hispanic fandom is compared to the English speaking one.
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>>534633045sonamy sisters, what went wrong?
How strong was Light Mobius Shadow supposed to be?
>>534634734When she becomes a cyborg sniper and let her bloodlust take over her persona.
She also needs to fight the ex president of the United Federation who is injected in Chaos energy on a hand to hand battle.
>>534634896defeated by knuckles daughter and only fought against a weaker older sonic
>>534634564Says the guy who is actively censoring the designated sexy character because his Pedowood buddy told him too.
>>534634896He took over the world and beat up everyone, Sonic included. so base level
>>534634932Man, now I want someone to draw the President to be as big as Absolute Batman, all while holding the photo of Sonic and Shadow on him.
>>534633045I love the live chat here.
Continuing on the note that Sonic is like Batman
Lanolin is like Ellen Yindel from the Dark Knight Returns
By-the-book cop, new commisioner of Gotham Police
Her first act for example is to arrest Batman
And of course she fails, not realising Batman's too big and he's the only force that can bring order to Gotham
But where Ellen works because she's the main representative of Anti-Batman's side of the media's debate and she can just show up out of nowhere because of the convention of the comic
Lanolin represents no one really
No one wants Sonic to stop saving lives especially when he does that without torturing anyone
SonTails is really taking off as a ship. It is all over Twitter too.
>>534634000Do not use the Lord's name in vain
>France being given free reign over Rouge
YES, PLEASE! GOD I WOULD PAY SO MUCH MONEY!
>1999 Sonic show adding cleavage to a character with gag casting
>2025 Sonic removing boobs from the videogame character most known for having them after lara croft
Ryan Drummond REBELnic > Jason Griffith Sonic > Frontiers Roger Sonic > Jaleel White Sonic > Classic/Mania Sonic > the rest
>>534634896>>534634985Seriously. "King" Shadow is a fucking fraud. Dude ended up being the final boss of the first bootleg Trunks' character arc. Embarrassing.
The manga is cool. Next issue should be out soon, right?
>>534633045>Stangle (Storm (RealDash) x Tangle)GODDAMMIT, FUCK OFF FAGGOT
>>534635263>Just throws around some flimsy Chaos Spears before being frozen by an OC donut steel.If you needed any more early proof that Ian hates Shadow...
>>534633432This reminds me. Tailstube established the Gaians are an ancient culture. Doesn't Tikal have attacks named after Gaia? Does that suggest the Echidnas worshipped Light Gaia?
I mean, Tikal is constantly praying so I imagine she was religious.
>>534634010Gen another Rouge bed invitation sex with her default outfit
Sontails is a bot ship. The poll proves it
>>534635157Please, the French would have her steal the main protagonist slot. Who the fuck is Sonic? This is Rouge's show now.
>>534634503Donโt even like sontails but youโre a faggot
I don't mind archiefags until they start bitching about things that have been in the sonic games literally forever.
You aren't getting rid of "the wind". Cut it out.
>>534635250Ryan the Emi Jones fucker.
>>534635267Hope so, I hope to read more of it.
>>534634932>let her bloodlust take over her personaShe already has the bloodlust, how do we get rid of the crying though?
>>534634835based Sonegg Chads
>>534635438The PEOPLE voted and the PEOPLE chose Sonails
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>>534635157isn't "Rouge" french?
>>534633045>sonurge and sonally SURPASSED by blazamylol?
https://magma.com/d/i1csBn42nS
draw your favorite character or ship on the whiteboard,even if it's shit
>>534601157>>534601840I'm sad I like this concept and it was made by AI. Why couldn't the writers make them fun and adventure pilled? They didn't try to make the team improve before making drama out of them.
>Tailsmo that high
You guys are alright sometimes.
>>534635740It's almost like Sonally is a pairing that involves warping Sonic's personality in a way that only works if you grew up with it and are 30+ years old while Sonurge makes no fucking sense at all.
>>534635593She's crying because it's been ages since she felt the ecstasy of a well aimed shot, and the subsequent melody of a bullet ripping through the flesh, with hollow point shards dancing between the bones.
>That many votes in that many categories
Yeah I do not believe that thee are over 100 people visiting sthg today.
>>534635101I geniunely thought they were going that route with Lanollin, making her like the Maria Hill of the series, making her antagonistic towards the hero guy like it happened in Civil War.
In practice she is just naive, trusting a newcomer over the established hero she knows saved the world from the Metal Virus.
>>534635036The one with the big bell tower.
Last I saw from my national broadcaster, the sex ed curriculum should by now include incels, using AI to undress photographs, how pornography is misogynistic (I'm not exaggerating), consent in relation to "power dynamics", LGBT, online & domestic abuse, FGM but not MGM/circumcision. The main opponents to anything are the Moon cult who have sex segregated skoolz. Some sex ed topics can be opted out by parents, specifically abortion.
>>534635738Rouge herself is Honduran, but her name is French.
>>534636038>You may select multiple options
>>534635972Are you the whispanglefag that wants them to be fun mercenaries? What do you think about the AI prompt?
...Man because of that stupid fanfic now I want to see someone draw Flynn's OC, the raven lady milf who raised Rouge.
I just like ravens, ok? They are majestic animals, even if their scream is hellish.
>>534635405Why isn't it Sonic defeating Shadow?
>>534636095You were supposed to CRUMBLE under FAGVER allegations
BUT YOU DIDNT, WHY
>>534636043She should have trusted Whisper but Whisper approached it in the worst way possible
>>534636263Because he lost to Shadow in that arc because he was too old. Kek.
Can they show Frontiers 2 already?
Have a lovely saturday night, /sthg/!!
What are you guys up to? I finally looked into the SA2 citypop album that was posted here a few days ago. It has been an amazing listen while chillin' and doing other things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkU49S4G8Mw
>>534636234I thought that shit was hilarious, even the genAI defaults to them being a couple. But yeah, hate to admit it, the prompt at least seemed to be going the direction of them going on adventures together. The Restoration was a mistake, man.
>>534636335>Whisper approached it in the worst way possibleNo I don't blame Whisper in this scenario, Lanolin should respect her and Silver's experience. Lanolin just barely went on her first mission
>>534636095I love this twink
>>534636263Sonic in that arc was like a 40yo boomer. light Mobius is boruto tier plot where they make the "oldies" go to retirement house while the new gen takes over
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>>534633045what are you retards doing
>>534636623I don't blame Whisper either as she was the one with the knowledge who was gaslit
>>534636815I blame Evan for forgetting about the recorder on Whisper's mask.
>Momthrowers have to blatantly bot and rig the poll to make themselves relevant.
>>534636553>Restoration was a mistakeI'm worried the writers are going to go back to it.
>>534636723>GardonAre we serious
>>534636927>seetheEverybody here loves knuxouge and their moms
>>534636260According to the fanfic seether, there is a non-zero chance that could happen. As much as Sega has its weird butthurt about families, they established that Rouge's mom exists in at least two different games. I would nut if Jade was made official. Especially since my favorite character would finally have a proper backstory.
Hm. Maybe that's why Flynn was audibly terrified of opening his mouth when the question about Rouge's status in the franchise going forward came up in Bumblekast.
>>534633769>Ian ruined Sonally>Implying that it was all IanSonally was a fucked ship since it's inception
>>534636553I liked the Restoration, but at the same time I see why people didn't.
On a scale of 1-10 how autistic would it be to write fanfiction of someone's OP-SI fanfic while replacing their Donut Steel with a mentally challenged hobo?
>>534637082>Flynn was audibly terrified of opening his mouth when the question about Rouge's status in the franchise going forwardNo its because he knew about the incoming censorship in exchange for pushing her to main girl status with Amy. Rouge will be relevant in the next mainline game with Shadow
shadougeschizo is going to have a melty over the poll results
>>534636723>>534637032The silent majority demands Gardilla.
>>534637040Don't you have a mother to throw or something?
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i voted for the realdash ship because i thought it was funny
but honestly is he even around anymore
>>534633045I wish there was a none answer, also who the fuck is gardon
>>534637143I think every single person on planet earth already knows that Sonally doesn't line up with Sonic's personality in the games. Even Sonallyfags have had it vomited into their brains over and over for a decade. Everyone knows. Everyone knows that if Sally was stuffed into the games she wouldn't be able to keep her dynamic with Sonic. Even Ian told us that's just a fact. We all KNOW. You don't need to point it out every time.
nobody likes shatouge it's all astroturfed.
>>534637524Play the games
>>534637249No no, the question was specifically about whether or not she's still a spy. I forget the date, but Kyle even notably pointed out that Ian looked like he had a gun to his head. He managed to get out the vague answer that she's still a spy, but an independent contractor. Shit was kinda concerning, because Ian is usually happy to blab about stuff, but for this, he was extremely reluctant to risk saying too much. I don't know what kind of mandates Rouge has on her, but they're apparently not fucking around with that.
Canon Sally would just be Female Knuckles
>Watching in real time as the Realdash ship is getting botted.
>>534637519He might be that shit is getting botted
>>534637672Oh that probably has more to do with GUN's status in universe than her then. Basically the shit from the recent IDW issue where she's still working for "someone" but it's vague
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>>534633045why are you guys like this
I think Shadougefag has driven people away from the pairing
>>534637650It tells me he is only from sonic rush adventure, which makes sense I haven't heard of him. Also there isn't a plural here, so I don't know what you are on about
>>534637458This is so cute desu.
Jeezus. How autistic can you guys be?
>>534638008Shadougefag will be a mere blip compared to the autism we're going to see next year
>>534638048Play the games. Rush Adventure is one of them.
>>534636496Trying to get through my daily quota on top of having to make up for the ones I didn't do earlier this week.
Also realizing that I've gone through some 420+ images in a 10 week period.
>>534637924Still holding out hope.
>>534638008He's the most aggressive shipper here bar none
sorry for being a newfag but who is realdash?
>>534633045I need no validation for my crackship
Well I guess we can happily and easily throw out both Stangle and Knuxouge because those were clearly being botted if you were watching it.
Sontails is the winner!
>Wanting the Fr*nch to be anywhere near the franchise
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>>534638141what happens next year besides movie 4 trailer
>>534638091>Says the foxshit self inserter
>>534638315Nope. Nice try retard
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Love wins!
Next year is going to answer a lot of questions people have here.
I think Sonamyfags should be happy that Sonallyfags exist because Sonally is so OOC that it distracts jpn purists from attacking Sonamy.
One day in the future, Sonally will be so irrelevant that there will be no human shields blocking canon purists from getting mad at Sonamyfags.
>But Sonamy is canon
The way Sonamyfags draw the pairing is not. They often do the exact same things Sonallyfags do and get away with it because Sonally is a buffer.
If Sonamyfags had to endure 1% of the canon policing that Sonallyfags face, they would snap.
>>534638315Even without bots Knuxouge votes were admitted to being fake and done out of spite because Sonails was winning
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>>534638315Sontails is the most botted ship here and on outside polls, projecter
Sontails sweep! Botters and riggers can go home now.
>>534638336The French are cute!
>>534637924 If it's not GUN then it's Eggman or the President or Tori. We all know Sonic's world has the depth of a spot of newborn baby vomit so being coy about it just makes the attempt at mystery look stupid UNLESS it's Tori
>>534638181You are still very dedicated I see. Well regardless, I hope you are doing alright and things are okay for you.
I voted for Stangle because what realcuck's posted before is actually kinda cute, so I can see it
Still think his oc is ugly as shit tho
>>534638294I'm an oldfag and even I'm not too familiar with him. From what I can gather, he's a really autistic Tanglefag who ships her with his self-insert Storm. He brought a life-sized Tangle cutout on a date with him and took a picture. He draws stuff (usually porn) and posts it here, which usually causes some sort of spergout.
I think it's just being a cringeworthy autistic self-shipper that gets anons mad at him.
>>534635101>and he's the only force that can bring order to GothamIt's a good thing IDW never made Sonic like Batman in a way that, to put it simply, the Joker is no longer that funny clown who sometimes ties up Robin but is instead unleashing worldwide metal zombie plagues and two normal characters are offering a zero consequence permanent solution to the Joker but Sonic keeps saying no and we all awkwardly pretend this is what we wanted to read.
>>534633045We can throw this whole thing out now
>>534638750>He brought a life-sized Tangle cutout on a date with him and took a picture.lmao, that was not realdash
>>534638565I would hate if it was Tori, because after finding out that she's apparently just Lara Croft, I want her to be Rouge's long time archenemy. No, I have no justification for this, I just want my girl to have her own nemesis.
Twitter told me SonTails was bad.
>>534633045shipping super bowl
>>534638750I see. This being a sonic general it doesn't surprise me there was or there is a person like that here
SonTails and SonUrge haters are insecure SonAmy shippers
Don't mind me, just posting the OFFICIAL #1 /sthg/ ship.
>>534639069Thats not stangle
>main protagonist x #1 supporting character who appears in almost all media & crossovers is the most popular ship once you filter haters and other ships shitting on it to arbitrarily suppress it or push out of character ships with less popular characters
Who would have thought?
>>534638853People didn't bot for real ships.
>>534639132More like Strangle
>>534639132Silly anon, Stangle and Kunxouge are disqualified for being obviously botted. Weren't you hear like 10 minutes ago watching it?
>>534638853just edit out the meme ships for the real results
>>534639283>obviously bottedBut enough about Sontails for the past years
>>534639283>knuxouge is bottedshartougefag cope. everyone loves knuxouge
>the "T" in the journal is apparently Tori
Man, fuck that. It should be Topaz. Let Rouge have her wife back.
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>>534638853>>534639293>>just edit out the meme ships for the real resultsYou first.
>>534639423Topaz coming in would mean they would be obligated to bring in Cosmo.
>>534639414You only voted it "to spite" (your own words) because it was second place and you didn't want Sonails to win. That's the moment votes became invalid.
>>534639069SonTails wins because it's literally Wind-coded shipping
I wish this general wasn't 90% shipping discussions and people truly getting heated about it too
>>534639524>Wind-coded shipping
Can we just ban any and all polls from now on? This is no better than 'rolling'. It's every bit as disruptive and obnoxious. Genuinely how is this allowed.
And before you start, no, I don't care about your shipping drama. Do not start projecting. You need to stop.
>>534639293>>534639469Fellas fellas youโre both faggots
>>534639509>I just wanted to own the libsThat was someone else.
>>534639552I want to talk about Whonic
Momthrowers got sloppy this time. SonTails wins by default.
>>534639569Ligthen up nigga
>>534639582Irrelevant. Whoever that was admitted he only wanted to cheat Sonails out of its first place, got praised by another person, and tried to convince others to join him. That's when further votes became invalid. Sonails won.
>>534639487Pft, threaten me with a good time.
>>534639552I will never understand getting THIS obsessed over fictional characters fucking. Sonic fans once again failing to be normal about anything.
>>534638565Why would hire Rouge to look into Clutch's operation still ongoing despite him being defeated, when the reveal is that Clutch has been turned into a shell company for him?
I can't tell if this is just anons shooting the shit with eachother or if there's actual people upset about it. Either way it's funny.
If SonTails is popular why is it so controversial to like it?
>>534639552I would rather see this place talk about anything other than Silver for the millionth time
Shipping discussion is so fucking funny because to a shipper, all the opposing ships are meme ships. There are people here threatened by Sonouge, Shadally, and Knuxamy.
>>534639816*why would Eggman hire Rouge to investigate himself
>>534633265We already had Sonic Boom mannequin-like CG animation
>>534639720not my fault others allegedly got gaslit, if it hurts you that much, you can deduce -1 vote
Sonic should have writing like Doctor Who
>>534633045Total Knuxouge victory.
>>534639890Other ship fags spending the past decade arbitrarily suppressing it within the fandom to prop up Sonamy and Sonadow.
Sontails is the 'normalfag' ship of assuming the main character and his cute androgynous fox friend are an item.
That's why Tailsko and heterosexual Sontails used to be so popular within this fandom.
It's the lowest barrier of entry ship and incredibly in character.
Held back purely by 'canon ages' (SEGA never cared much about anyways, and which don't exist anymore) and the fact it's gay so has a more niche audience outside of heterosexual interpreations ala Tailsko.
>>534639890Itโs one Tailshater malding that anything involving Tails is liked
>Knuxouge that high
Yeah. It's botted. Fuck off. You are blatantly botting the poll to make your Sonic X crap seem popular.
>>534639776Like sure, I find pairing of characters cute but this shit is ridiculous. I don't think there has been a single thread since I have been here where shipping wasn't being talked about in one way or another. I knew being part of a Sonic general would have actual full autistic anons here but what surprised me is how most of that autism went to shipping than literally anything else. It's kinda interesting in a way, like why this is such a constant thing.
>>534640236The 19 votes on Stangle didn't clue you in first?
>>534640236There's no way a random OC got first place legitimately lol
You think Sega would be desperate enough to collab with a gatcha outside of their own?
>>534640236if X had more emphasis on shadouge, you'd be praising it as the best sonic media ever and that it's objectively IC
Just so you know, every single Shadria vote was me. Nobody except me likes it. If you think you voted for it, you didn't. Okay?
>>534640291>It's kinda interesting in a way, like why this is such a constant thing.I mean, not like any of these tards are ever actually going to experience love for themselves.
The Word of the Day is: Vicarious.
>>534640470>If Sonic X was more like the games you would be praising itYeah? Your point?
You know what, fuck it. I'm going to go binge Code Lyoko now. I haven't watched that show in like a decade.
>>534640467they are collabing sonic with everything these days. sonic is now hellokitty's rival but for boys
>>534640236Shatouge lost to Knuxouge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h31bXWfoO_E
Blade of Courage trolling has finally lead to antiwindfags trying to fight back lol
As you can tell, anti-windfags are troons with lisps.
>>534640470>implying Finitevus would support the Guardian breeding with a bat and not a pure-blooded echidnaThis nigga's probably the one who released the Nocturnus from the Twilight Cage solely to manipulate Knuckles into hooking up with Shade.
>>534640736As expected. Anti-windfags are pathetic and insane enough to chop off their dicks.
>>534640728>there are this many Silvaze fans>there are Silver fans at all
>>534640552It's the best Sonic shithole on the internet.
>>534640884Hot take. Ami should've been a cyborg. Takeuchi was a bit of a coward for backing out of that plotline.
Momthrowers needing to bot polls to stay relevant is sad
tailspedos are coping hard about losing to real ships that aren't pedophilic
>>534640949Hey Eggman, your robot making days are over.
Give me the Chaos Emeralds.
shatougesissies coping and seething and malding
>>534640236>>534640528>CopeShadow will never love Rouge.
Rouge partied with Knuckles instead of Shadow in generations 2011 and 2024.
>>534640880We're all Sonic fans so it's nothing but autism and the pot calling the kettle black.
>>534641029I genuinely despise this character because of this spamming pedophile. Doesn't help that he is indeed fact quite shit. Ian Flynn was right to bully this useless twerp.
>>534641108Sonic is 15. Basically all ships are pedophilic technically. You just hate Tails
>>534640728Shadouge always loses to Knuxouge.
>>534641296>disingenuoustails cream and charmy are the clear CHILD characters of the series
>>534641296>You just hate TailsEveryone hates Tails. Anyone who doesn't is a pedophile.
>>534641536Says the pedophile. Your boy is trash, kiddy-toucher.
Tangle finally found a "car" that's both legal for Whisper to drive and safe for her. Isn't that awesome?
>>534641695My boy is awesome. You just hate him since heโs smart and youโre retarded
>>534641220>deliberate inflammatory namecalling Shadougebros aren't the ones being rude or gloating. That's you. You're trying to excuse pollbotting.
>Using AO3 metrics
You do not want to go this road momthrowers.
>>534640736>Admits he's never seen Sonic X>Meanders the point for almost ten minutes>Argues simply "the comics and cartoons are intentionally ooc"okay? So they're still ooc lol
SonTails and Boyposting time!!
>>534633045the chat in this poll is the funniest thing i've seen in a while
>>534641895Everyone wants to use porn/fanfic metrics until they realize that Sonia starts to overmatch actual game characters, Rails is the most popular pairing, Wade appears in more fanfics than Tikal (Not a joke), and Sonamy is second to Sonadow.
>>534641820They (you) call us momthrowers occasionally
>>534642060What does โmomthrowerโ even actually mean? Iโve never understood this label.
>>534642060i call you a momthrower and dgaf about shadouge
>>534642048Are you saying that Sonia incestkino outmatch everything? Can you recommend a fic for me?
>>534642048All of this is Cinema
The real loser of the shipping poll was whispangle.
>>534642149It comes from an old greentext from /v/ of an anon who got obsessed with RougexKnuckles so much that his mom tried to take his computer away and he threw her down the stairs.
>>534641770Say Drake, I heard you like 'em young.
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Removing the two meme/joke ships at the top, these are the results.
Thoughts? Does the placement of any ship surprise you?
>>534642337>1 vote>btfo by all other lesbian shipskek, they really fucked up with those two
>>534642378>Forces >universally hated for its shit writing Nice example retard
Mindbreaking dogfuckers and autists since 1992
Mods, if you're seeing this, seriously, please ban all polls. Look at this fucking shit. Like, we can agree this is not okay, right? Fucks sake.
>>534642524We're having fun
>>534640736So this entire video makes a point to ignore idw which is the biggest criticism regarding characerization. The english dubs of the game are slightly off, but only slightly. Frontiers, Colors, and Lost World are the only games with majorly different english scripts. and the early 2000s titles are the only ones with unintentional errors.
He's not making any new points here. Even the strictest japan purist will agree. What he should be arguing with is Blade of Courage vs IDW. Because it's just a simple fact that one of these is more reminiscent of the VIDEO GAMES
Tbf, we had a poll back in May and knuxouge won that too
>>534642378Tails is team Kendrick
>>534642591SHADOUGE SISSIES??? OUR /STHG/ NARRATIVE IS CRUMBLING.
>>534642483You better not ever got to Cell Block 1!
Watch the pedo seriously try to defend DESTINY.
>>534642524>He thinks /vg/ mods actually do their job.Delusional.
>>534642337Good. Forced ships should not be welcome.
>>534642524Seething shartougefag
>>534642579No you're not. You're being an annoying cunt on purpose. This is supposed t be a thread for discussing Sonic the Hedgehog, not jerking off to shipping bullshit. Fuck off.
>>534642696>fighting this hard against a smart character due to being a brainletI feel sorry for you
SEGA should just give the fans what they actually want already.
>>534642591>Dougetards on suicide watch
>>534642829But Sonic shipping is Sonic though?
17 votes is way to high relative to the amount it gets posted. It's obvious botting
Tailsfags seem to be almost proud of being the actual worst.
>>534642472>Sonamy beating SonazeClearly rigged
>>534641296Everyone Blaze's age and above would be hebephiles
>>534634551If Maria is the Virgin Mary, Does that Make Shadow Jesus?
If fanfiction/porn are a democracy
>Archie is canon. Not arguable
>Stone and Eggman are in love
>Surge is a tsundere. Not arguable.
>Sonic and Shadow are fucking
>Sally Acorn and Shadow are equally relevant
>Maria is a hedgehog
>Tails has a twin sister named Tailsko
>Shadow acts exactly like Vegeta
>Sonic acts exactly like Goku
>Amy is a rapist and a stalker
>Tails and Rouge are dating
>The planet is called Mobius one third of the time
>>534642472>they really fucked up with those twoThe sad part is, they probably donโt even realize it. The extent of their brain power is to see that the people they dislike donโt like the ship which means actually they did a good job because stinky men donโt want to sexualize it and they will never think critically of how hollow and unfun the characters have become.
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Tailsbros are the best posters
>>534642981it's called the silent majority
>>534643008Most Tailsfags are positive and upbeat. Tailshaters canโt stand that and fling shit because of it, theyโre the real worst posters
>>534642887Shipping has fuck all to do with anything. Your ronery delusions are not valid discussion topics. You will die alone and unloved, and that objective fact gives me immense satisfaction. I fucking despise shippers, and I would sell a fucking limb for you all to drop dead right this very second. Shut the fuck up.
>>534643123That's blatant cope
These are my ships. It's perfect as all things should be. Nobody left out and every pairing makes sense.
>>534643080>Tails and Rouge are datingMore like single-handedly overpopulating their planet with fox-bat hybrids.
>>534642591>Sonamy as the runner-upI thought Amyshitters were the minority here
>>534643226That's so mean for no reason. Shipping is fun, you should try it
>>534643207You are ALL pedophiles, and your deserved to be raped to death by rabid bears. Shut up and die.
>>534643364Proving my point to a T
Knuckles and Rouge's songs in sa2 are about how badly they wanna fuck
Shadow's songs are about crying over your 12 year old wife cause you're a pedo
>>534643226>Your ronery delusions are not valid discussion topicsthis, shadow and rouge were never friends and it's about time lonely incels accept it
All of you got bullied for liking a ship back then on deviantart. and it shows
What's your favorite depiction of Eggman, /sthg/?
It can be something trivial like just his design but I am mostly interested which eggman character writting is the most fun or interesting to you. Like liking the simplistic characterization of him in the first games or the more serious tone in the recent games. I am thinking mostly about the games but if you like any version of him more in the comics, shows, etc, I really would like to know why.
>>534640736Just watched this long ass video about Japanese vs Western Sonic discourse and holy shit this guy actually did his homework. Spent like 40 minutes breaking down why JAPurists are mostly coping retards who don't understand that Sonic was literally designed for America from day one.
The funniest part was when he pointed out that Colors and Lost World - the games everyone uses as examples of "muh western writing bad" - were actually written by Pontac and Graff in ENGLISH first, then translated to Japanese. So all those puristfags crying about how much better the Japanese versions are were literally praising translations of the shitty western scripts they claim to hate. Kek.
Also confirmed what we already knew - that most of the "inconsistencies" between JP and EN are just standard localization differences, not some grand conspiracy to ruin Sonic's character. The guy actually went through Windii's translations and found basically no meaningful differences outside of a few outliers.
His point about death of the author was pretty based too. These autists who think there's some "true" version of Sonic that only exists in Japanese are missing the point entirely. Characters evolve, deal with it.
Only thing I disagree with is him being too nice about it. Should've just called them weebs and moved on. The whole "Japanese Sonic has le special atmosphere" argument is pure cope from people who watched too much anime and think Japan can do no wrong.
Solid video though, actually used sources and didn't just make shit up like most Sonic YouTubers. Worth the watch if you want to dunk on puristfags with actual evidence.
>Shitting and pissing yourself this hard over a few anons taking the piss out of each other.
Holy autism.
>>534643364>You are all pedophiles>So I think you should engage in bestialityWtf
>>534643347KILL YOURSELF, YOU WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT. THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS FUCKING WILL NEVER RESULT IN YOU EVER EXPERIENCING REAL LOVE. JUMP OFF A CLIFF AND HIT EVERY JAGGED ROCK ON THE WAY DOWN. Seriously. Fuck off. Sub-human pile of rotting meat.
>>534643417Shadow is younger than Maria
>>534642472>Kitrinethis isn't even a real pairing
>>534643429I think Mike Pollock is a good VA and I think heโs funny in most depictions and makes do with even the worst Westshit scripts in a way that almost works.
>>534643445I think the video fails to cover that IDW is the nucleus of the debate. He puts aside his biases and that's respectable but in the end of the day, people aren't usually ripping into the english dubs of modern Sonic games. They're ripping into IDW's portrayal.
Pariah is the quintessential example of a japanese purist and he says to play Frontiers in english because the japanese version is an incoherent mess
>>534643295>Silvazenah. Silvaze is chopped for everything but shipping. Trying to acutally use these characters outside '06 has always been a total shitshow.
I just made a run to the store and there was a young adult retard who looked just like Ian Flynn, but he was the sad kind of retard who looked like he should be wearing a safety helmet and was laughing and clapping around noisily and we all had to ignore him. It made me feel bad because it also reminded me of those AI videos posted here where Ian Flynn does retarded things.
I swear, he was the spitting image of Ian Flynn, and no, I'm not high or drunk.
Man, I'm really happy that I don't get so upset and angry over shipping in online forums that I literally caps lock death wishes towards them. That just sounds depressing, stupid and very insecure.
(You) wouldn't do that either, would you anon?
>>534643295It's nearly perfect. The boys should be in bunny suits
>>534643610It's called the silent majority.
>>534643295>Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow, and Silver reduced to malewivesEvan is that you???
>>534643445He goes out of his way to ignore Sonic X and IDW. The two entries that japanese purists actually gets mad at. Nobody is actually concerning themselves about if the DIC cartoons are in-character. We already know they're not.
>>534643445>The funniest part was when he pointed out that Colors and Lost World - the games everyone uses as examples of "muh western writing bad" - were actually written by Pontac and Graff in ENGLISH first, then translated to Japanese.FALSE. Sonic Team wrote the story of both games. For Lost World, Pontac and Graff wrote the script first, then Sonic Team made corrections for the Japanese version. With Colors, Pontac and Graff joined the team late in development, the script was already written, and they made adaptation differences for the English script. The most influence they had on the games was deciding to keep Orbot and Cubot around.
>that most of the "inconsistencies" between JP and EN are just standard localization differencesLocalizations are often bad, and Pontac and Graff's work especially so.
>>534641895>AO3 metrics->Shadouge schizo botters hiding behind pedophilia Kek. This is desperation.
>>534643475Oh I'm sorry, would you rather get raped to death by large humans? Because that works too. So long as you suffer before you get thrown into oblivion.
>>534643471I don't give a haypenny SHIT about your autistic shipping wank. I want to talk abotu Sonic the fucking Hedgehog, but I can't get a word in edgewise because you lonely sacks of shit won't stop projecting about how nobody will ever love you by trying to force fictional characters to fuck. Fuck off and die.
>>534643754>6 votes>majoritydid you reply to the wrong post
>>534643816>>534643531>>534643364>>534643226kys bulmabitch
>Sonic Adventure 2 is roughly the same between japanese and english, therefore Uwuver isn't bad and you shouldn't bully Evan over it.
There has to be a better way to make this argument
>>534642378Remember when Classic Tails saved everybody from an exploding Eggbase?
https://youtu.be/jqXcrR4UIig?si=eERLGKmRxkaer75V
Why can't Modern or Adventure Tails be this capable?
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>>534643531>THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS FUCKING WILL NEVER RESULT IN YOU EVER EXPERIENCING REAL LOVE.Wrong. This is one of my favorite ships
I swear to god if I ever meet another Sonic fan in real life, I'm going to beat them to death. One less of you vile subhumans in the world is an objective positive.
>>534643847Die in a fire, shipping freak. Your filthy kind deserves to be systematically purged via roving firing squads.
There is no need to be upset.
>>534643008>Tailsfags seem to be almost proud of being the actual worst.This is why we call tailspedo garbage, complete slop
>>534643960Because SEGA stopped caring about anybody who wasnโt Sonic or Shadow
>>534643445I am disappointed that he just didn't cover the comics but I very much enjoyed that the end of the video is tacitly directed at Kr*ck and R*ndomfox
shatouge ws proven to be liked by nobody and astroturfed by one mentally ill person
Should I find some controversial YouTube videos for you to get angry at?
>>534644086DigitalDomain is so fucking weird. He can obviously draw Tails and Rouge on model and has shown his ability to do so but he actively draws them wildly off model.
why does shadow look latino in the Op?
Rouge invited Shadow to Sonic's birthday just to ditch him and hang out with Knuckles all night
All these Sontails and Knuxouge tards raging at each other while Stangle fans are quiet kekius
>He raged so hard he got banned and his post deleted.
>>534643694what if sonic met another doppelganger that was mentally retarted
>>534644075I refuse to believe all shatouge we've had to deal with was 1 fag
Sonic Twitter is still arguing over if Frontiers is a better game than 06.
>>534643445I have my issues with it as a windfag who's sympathetic to Western Sonic.
It didn't dive deep enough into the Classic Era or how Western and Eastern Sonic both had similar themes of cyberpunk and post-apocalypse. With SatAM and the OVA both depicting "Eggmanland"/"Robotropolis" as cyberpunk dystopias built on the ruins of a once prosperous civlization. There isn't enough conversation about how the identity for Classic Sonic was largely consistent in themes up until the Adventure Era where you see a tonal shift solidifying with Maekawa's direction on the series where you begin to see characters acting wildly out of character compared to their previous incarnations. Notably how Maekawa has Tails job so much to prop up his OC Sonic recolor Shadow.
Windfags will also ignore how western Sonic media at the time also displayed Sonic as 'like the wind' and how Japanese Sonic was envisioned with numerous love interest characters (Madonna, Elise, Princess Sara, etc) and how Sally Acorn likely stems from those ideas (alongside SatAM making Sonic use a guitar, which he uses the same guitar in the manga and in concepts by Naka, In fact, there is an argument to be made that American localizers interfered with Sonic but it wasn't to 'make Sonic a rock star or give him a girlfriend', to the contrary, Madeline Schroeder seethed at the idea of Sonic being a rock star or having a girlfriend (especially a human one).
Sadly X fags are fine being dishonest and no one even remembers the actual history of Classic Sonic (or how close westfag characters like Sally, Antoine, etc were to being recurring game cast members. See: Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and Sonic Spinball. Sonic 16 and Sonic X-treme failing killed this.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmmtjdQiMbg
Knuxouge and Shadiarrheafags just ignore this completely.
>>534644492Base game, I put them in the same tier. DLC/updates improved both, but I think Frontiers benefited more from them than 2006 did. If 2006 was more polished and the town missions weren't so boring I would say it's easily way better than Frontiers though. I consider 2006 superior in many aspects
It's funny cause all you have to do to prove that purism is correct is post the complete liquid dogshit that is Archie and IDW and there's simply no rebuttal.
>>534643445>Sonic was designed for AmericaBullshit. Sonic Team has said Sonic is Japanese. They consulted with Americans to make him more appeaing.
>localization differencesJust because "localization differences" don't change the content of the dialog, but the characterization isn't different. Of course the translation isn't going to change much. If you want a fair comparison you need to compare Sonic's characterization between Japanese writers and English writers.
>characters evolveNo they don't lol. Everything has to go through Toyota. They have internal documents and mandates.
I can tell you're a spiteful little faggot.
>>53464449206 fans are blinded by nostalgia and don't actually care about anything in that game.
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>>534641895>AO3 metrics-Why are you being disingenuous Tailspedo.
Rouge x Tails is the least popular ship on the Ao3 site when you search for actual content.
Knuxouge >>>>>>>> Shadouge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rails
Should I summarize this video?
>>534644761There's like 3-4 different tags on AO3 for Rails content because retards don't know how to properly use the tagging system.
>>534644594Sara isn't a princess windbro
>>534644408This is so damned cute. Not a fan of the ship, but damn that's a cute pic.
>>534644741>Enraged Purist
>>534644741English Colors vs Japanese Colors has major characterization differences for Sonic and Tails. There's this cutscenes where the English version is the complete opposite of the Japanese original
>>534644718>18 years agoAnd the game literally deleted itself. It's the least Canon game.
>>534644761AO3 is semi-recent when it comes to fanfiction websites, it would be more difficult to figure out how much Rail content there is on a site like Fanfiction.net
>>534638460Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations
Sonic scenes with these feels, respectively.
>>534644725Frontiers is way better than 06.
>>534644916Sonic is unironically in the right here. Everything gets fucked up by the shitty council and their need for "democracy" forever later. The Republic was a mistake.
>hand waving back and forth
>you can't see me
>>534644864>There's like 3-4 different tags on AO3 for Rails content because retards don't know how to properly use the tagging system.The tag you're replying to is the one with the highest results for that pairing on the site, still extremely low
I wish Tails had themed shoes in adult sizes.
>>534645113After I have your whore of a "girlfriend" put on trial and executed for high treason, you're next you blue rodent.
>>534645064It's somewhat more polished, the controls are generally more pleasant, and the tower climbs are fun. That's about it for the things it has over 2006 for me
>>534645085I like the idea of Shadow and Amy getting along, but not being romantically involved. Shadow is for Blaze. And Silver is for killing himself.
>>534645113>Defending monarchismI donโt think Sonic would support tyranny
Tails' mom is partially responsible for the super genesis wave. The death of herself and her husband. The ultimate perpetuation of the Acorn throne.
You shouldn't take these poll seriously, they're rigged by our resident mentally ill shippers.
>>534643960No I don't. Because that didn't fucking happen. Your pedobait TRASH got all his shit retconned. Go fuck yourself, loser.
>>534645226>Sonic super speed carries her to the middle of the ocean and drops herSorry Tails.
How does one smol foxboy cause so much anger and seethe.
>>534644718>literally most of the scenes are them just standing and talking>Shadow shows no emotion to rouge for all of them like usual.Shadouge faggot....
>>534645389I voted for nearly every option four times
>>534645453>Human Feet ok i'm joining in, kill yourself
>>534645389Neither the polls nor the shippers should be allowed on the site at all.
>>534645416>It was a hologramSorry for what Sonic?
>>534645652how the fuck would Sonic carry a hologram all the way to the damn ocean?
>>534644718Even in 06 Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge. He only tolerates her because she's useful for his mission.
>>534645710It was a very advanced hologram.
>>534644718>ITT knuxougesisters seething because 06 overwrites SA2 completely
This is the clearest example of Sonic being OOC because it literally shows something that didn't happen. In Rush he was trying to de-escelate the situation their entire fight. Yet this flashback depicts him enjoying himself essentially harassing Blaze. Sonic doesn't like fighting people when they're distressed, he's not a sociopath like Ian writes him as.
>>534644961You're ignorant and arrogant about things you don't know shit about.
>>534645652Wait if that Rosemary was a hologram then where's the real Rosemar-
Oh no.
Knuxouge was so irrelevant that in 2008 Sonic Team was going to let Bioware replace it with an actual Archie OC
>>5346453942023's Sonic Superstars, a game that canonically takes place before SA1, got retconned?
>>534646007Why does the cutest girl in the series also hang out with the biggest loser? And when I say the biggest loser, I mean Silver.
shatouge? more like shatdabed
>>534645736Making Shadow a soulless creature that literally doesn't care about anyone or anything sucks. What's even the point of this "character"?
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>>534644741The video in question already concedes that the comics are OOC. I'm going to check his other videos to see what he has to say about IDW though.
>>534646107It was shit and nobody played it. Nobody gives a fuck outside of the lizard waifu.
>>534646154Kinda funny how you guys get one "victory" (botting a poll) and you can't help but be completely insufferable and resort to bullying. Really makes you think.
>Well, I don't look back, I don't need to
>Time won't wait and I've got so much to do
>Where do I start now? It's all a blur and so unclear
>Well, I don't know, but I can't be wrong
ah geeze sonic is so hard to understand we can only be so precise don't bully us we only get payed to write this franchise
>>534646298>Kinda funny how you guys get one "victory" (botting a poll) and you can't help but be completely insufferable and resort to bullying. Really makes you think.Shadouge schizo you guys been botting and shitting on every other shadow ship since year of shadow. Stop with the projecting.
Even a mere criticism of your ship caused you to spam /sthg/ threads with images for multiple days straight to limit.
Sonic being out of character is objectively a good thing, because Sonic is a soulless sack of shit who isn't fun to watch.
>>534646298Seethe harder shadougetard
This poll and made up shipping drama was created by our resident dogfucker.
>>534646436>Stop with the projecting.Says the cunt who automatically assumes that anyone opposed to your bullshit is a supporter of an opposing ship rather than someone who just finds your forced shipping drama annoying as fuck. Retard.
>>534646168He cares about Maria.
>>534646168Isn't 06 Shadow regarded as the second best take on Shadow next to SA2?
>>534646073>A red echidna that give knuckles everything he's ever wanted; rebuild his tribe, his race, relieve him of a guardian duty and provide him with a loving family >a white bat that covets the emerald above all else, who will leave knuckles forever paranoid about her true motives, will never truly love him, can't revive his race, has no interest in his culture, likes to torment him and would rather hangout with shadow People who ship knuckles and rouge are actually braindead
>>534646556Shut up hypocrite. Mister mobian fucker.
I notice two issues here
>Japan purists refuse to acknowledge that literally everyone knows that Archie/Satam are OOC. They will intentionally use it as a strawman and pretend that westfags don't already know this.
>Anti-purists dodge debating about IDW because it's very easy to point at Uwuver and show that no japanese incarnation of silver behaves like this at all, without even getting started on Sonic himself
Am I mistaken?
>>534646603No he doesn't. Maria was some weak human who he was tasked with protecting. She was an objective, and object. He's just butthurt that he lost.
okay now the shipping drama isn't funny
>>534646383this dialogue would come off better if Sonic didn't look like a wimpy faggot and ended the rant with something more confident and inspiring
>>534646726Solution: no one should care about any iteration of Silver. Problem solved
>>534646673Sonic 06 isn't canon, and everything from it that rolled over into future titles was either retconned or ignored. Shadow isn't a person and he never was.
Only newfags donโt realize that the sole Shadria shipper in this thread is trying to make her ship look relevant through botting and drama.
If all of you had a Tails to cuddle and hug and talk to then none of you would be this upset. Fact.
>>534646585>Playing dumb and deflecting You use the exact type of terms on competing ships every time when called out.
Why would you even use the word "bullying" if you weren't a ship being bullied? You're not fooling anyone.
>>534646436>Shadouge schizoNot your bogeyman, momethrowerschizo. How about you go bot more polls while you're at it
>>534646726It's more about "relatable" characters vs the what the characters are supposed to be
>>534646383
>>534646932>momethrowerschizo>Shadouge schizoOnly reply to a post once, shadougefag.
>>534646730Nah.
You don't say this about someone you view as an object or objective. I think you know that though.
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>>534646298>shadouge schizos of all people playing the victim card again
>>534646383Are there people who actually look at this shit and think it's like the games?
"This is how you make a character [Not Sonic]!"
>>534646931>being this delusional>being straight up illiterateI did not type the word 'bullying' today until just. I do not want any part of your shipping drama because I find its very existence abhorrent. I just want you to shut the fuck up.
Fucking hell, how is anyone this obsessed with fictional characters fucking.
>>534646925But Iโm upset BECAUSE I donโt have a Tails to cuddle
>>534647108You're replying to the same Shadouge shipper as in your pic btw. He's completely nuts, and the sad part is he's over 30 years old.
>>534647193Stop backpedaling now. No one would randomly use the word "bullying" if they were a fence sitter. You're already exposed shipper.
My ship is worse than all of your ships
>Tailspedos and shippers once again proving to be the actual worst
The internet was right to bully Sonic fans. Subhuman freaks the lot of you.
>>534647407>Nooooooo, you must be the same anon I was talking to before! My narrative!Go fuck yourself. Fictional characters fucking isn't important and forcing it will never get you laid. You're just as much a sad, soulless sack of shit as Sonic is.
>>534646772After this scene he starts doubting himself and almost succumbs to the metal virus. It's complete dogshit.
>>534647143It's like
>>534646975 says. What it comes down to is that progressive faggots always have to criticize and deconstruct things instead of accepting that good things are good because they're resentful pukes.
Sonegg will always be superior to all other ships
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>shadougekek trying to play victim after this
>>534647745what am i looking at?
>>534647643Windnic isn't fun. You're a boring drone. Simple as.
>>534647441Youโll never leave though
>>534647610>Nooooooo, you must be the same anon I was talking to before! My narrative!>Go fuck yourself. Fictional characters fucking isn't important and forcing it will never get you laid. You're just as much a sad, soulless sack of shit as Sonic is.>Now deflecting to being a different anon entirely>Meltykek
My ship is gayer than yours
>>534647805Is Steven Universe fun to you?
>534647827
Oh great, now the Barry pedos have decided to once again curse the world with their existence.
remember when shadougekek went insane? i member.
>>534647938No. Nice try deflecting though. Sonic is a boring mary sue who is not fun to watch. No amount of whataboutism will ever change that fact.
>>534647827>>534647921Is it gayer than this? https://files.catbox.moe/6n6zu8.jpeg
Love the Wind
Love Shadria
Hate 06
Hate Uwuver
Hate Forces
Simple as
>>534647805No, he's plenty fun.
>>534648136Nice
I donโt approve of it being silver though
>>534648160Is that a math book he's on?
I CASTRATE PUPPIES, anyways what's your least favorite Sonic game and why?
Goodnight /sthg/, take it easy
>>534648372almost anything after Dec 2005 and I don't need to elaborate
>>534648328Who would you approve it being?
Is there a canon ending for shadow the hedgehog?
I played him as a pure hero because thats what maria would have wanted
The shadow that says "I made a promise to maria to protect the planet she loved" is kino
>>534648556I would have to say Tails, Knux, Blaze, Espio, Sonic, Big the cat
Iโm a bit conflicted about gadget but the art is definitely cute
I AM a jp purist and I don't see the issue in people finding gamenic boring. Before the era of Boom and IDW the general consensus in the fandom is that Sonic as a character has the most boring stories in his own games and that's why Shadow is so popular
>>534648707>Is there a canon ending for shadow the hedgehog?True ending(Watch through the credits)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsmqhQ52p8w
>>534646383>Where do I start now? It's all a blur and so unclearI used to hear the last part as "unfair" when I was younger.
>>534647195Apply yourself.
>>534648707the final story that you unlock after playing all 10 semi final bosses
>>534648707There're theories, but no. Severals events that are "agreed" to have happened narrow it down though, like Eggman saying he lied about Shadow not having a past. Basically just the true ending after all ten endings definitely happened.
>>534648958Ah of course, the sonic staple
Sonic still wants to be Mario
>>534649359The name "Storm" is wasted on the albatross but using the name of an existing character is dumb.
>>534649359You are gonna piss off Timmys dad
Sonic shipping discourse isn't that bad
I-I-I-IS THAT STANGLE??? AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>534649509RealDash is Dinkleberg?
>>534649810How heavy is that head of his
Why did this become a Fairly Odd Parents thread all of a sudden?
>i wish for smoking hot blobians to be REAL
>>534646673It absolutely is. He's overcome his past, unafraid of the future, and has friends he can count on.
>Suffer long and it will set you free!>Only through trial do we find the strength we need!>No ghosts can bring you down!Shadow had nowhere to go after this game, and so now we're just back to him living for Maria.
Honey the Cat, we have you surrounded
Which ship is the most toxic, SonicxAmy, JokerxHarley, or SasukexSakura?
>>534650068What is is, officer? Can't a girl have wholesome hugs with her boyfriend?
>>534649632I want Sally to force it on me
>>534650116>Joker and HarleyBoth of their endgames result in Harley living happily ever after
>Sonic and AmyLiterally never going to happen
>Sasuke and SakuraSasuke was objectively abusive towards her but they ended up happily ever after
Reminder that the whiteboard is cool and you should join it and draw something https://magma.com/d/i1csBn42nS
>>534650362Amy and Sticks are all nude wtf
>534650362
you're desperate
>>534650230Show me what's going on under there.
>>534650230pov: Your favorite female character made physical contact with Tails in 1 entry of the franchise
>>534650362not after you retards started banning people for drawing porn
>>534650764See? Just innocent, clothes-on smooching! Now you! What're YOU hiding?
Why is this fag begging for people to go scribble on this shit now?
>>534650853They have to, otherwise, they wouldnโt be able to brag about their garbage to their xitter friends.
>>534649865Big brain, very heavy
>>534651128Starline stop raping her...
>>534633432>Humans in Sonic never have powers or super fighting skillsEggman is consistently depicted with super strength and insane durability.
Witchcart is magic.
Merlina is magic.
Elise could create shields.
Hmph. Yesterday the people with names were shouting at each other. Today, shippers are fighting over a quest with no real answer.
Interesting. Maybe this is a Sisyphus hell for some in this community.
>>534651130WHY IS SALLY IN HIS SLEEPING BAG
>>534651130I thought so. Now leave me and my Tailsy alone. You have nothing on me, perv.
The Sonic movies adapted one meme per flick.
Sanic
Da Way
And Shadow with latinas
What do you think will be the meme they will adapt next? Because I'm feeling Sonic Exe of all things will be next.
After all, that weird pasta and Metal Sonic both have the same eyes.
>>534651064Because it's dying
>>534650852They went on a date once.
It ended poorly.
*spindashes into the thread*
>>534652081Post her voice
>>534652081What is this supposed to be from?
>>534652505https://litter.catbox.moe/mwvpe56ai99tknfh.mp4
I can't pay a therapist and had to rely on ChatGPT. I told it about this place and it told me I should stop coming here.
It also told me to stop calling Krack a cunt.
>>534650852>pov: you constantly self insert as tails and your brain has rottedftfy
>>534652134Tails wimps always live in a delusional world, we know.
>>534653074The way things are going do you think weโre either going to be slaves or pets when the A.I takes over (probably with ease) in the next decade or two
You know theyโre mad when they pull up penders era comics to shit on a character
>>534653074>AIfags are mentally unstableNot surprised.
>>534653262I'm sure we all be dead by now. If we are alive, I'm sure AI will find its place in society, but generative art and writing will be remembered as fads like NFTS were.
>>534643445>shit this guy actually did his homework.the uploader is a lesbian transwoman and openly identifies as such.
I think that's pretty relevant and oddly consistent for someone who makes a point to defend the IDW Sonic writers but is too cowardly to actually make the video about the criticisms of IDW Sonic. Because in the end of the day this "girl" knows for a fact that the IDW comics are not in-character. Do not match the videogames. Are rightfully criticized for being built on the writers' archie-laden headcanons.
>>534653381The entire "H-Honey is just a rapist and a pedo I-i swear" spam from tailsfags is because of the comics.
>>534653492>but generative art and writing will be remembered as fads like NFTS were.Half of the content you consume is ai generated. You just don't know it.
>>534653492>but generative art and writing will be remembered as fads like NFTS were.Writing most likely, but art isnโt gonna go down so easily, especially since its heading towards shit like on-model sonic porn videos in the next few years, once that hits its over for birth rate
So some interesting internal things from Sega
>company has been almost exclusively siding with AMD due to consoles and the lack of performance hit from FSR
>Switch 2 pushing the people up top to ask devs to put DLSS in their games
>RGG is really into the idea since they believe it will make the PC versions even better and potentially make the Switch 2 version the most compelling console version
>Atlus mixed, main Persona teams engine is too old to support it without massive reworking, Persona remake team and SMT team donโt mind since theyโre using UE/Unity anyway
>Sonic Teams engine is too old to support DLSS without reworking it drastically
>Smaller studios around the company are also not bothered due to Unreal growing as the engine of choice around Sega
>>534653381Do you not consider portraying Honey as a dominatrix towards Tails shitting on the character?
>>534653576And the pedo headcanon about honey is a big stretch while Tails getting constantly cucked is literally in the comic plots.
>>534653694I donโt care about non-fan head canon like that
You might as well be asking me if i think deviant art fetish porn shits on the characters
>>534653848In character for modern shitnic
>>534653672Meh, as a consoomer of porn, AI art has a special niche in making art of lesser known characters (I seen a lot of porn of porn characters kek), but it is boring after a while.
Part of the fun of art is for the art to be a window or bridge with the artist soul. It's why some people start to worship creators. And some of my favorite artists have very unique traits to them, something AI won't have.
Here's another video by the same uploader. Still agree? https://youtu.be/vomC5SHkaOU?si=SXMwryYuUIfxMRq2
IDW matches the games if the last game you played was Sonic Forces on release. Blade of Courage matches the games if the last game you played was Sonic Unleashed on release
>>534652309I could spend 90-120 minutes cutting out this image, but I can't be arsed to do such a thing at this hour.
>>534654250>IDW matches the games if the last game you played was Sonic Forces on releasI would disagree becuase Forces takes "Windnic" to the worst extreme we have ever seen in the games. IDW Sonic is more along the lines of Lost World.
Literally what is the point of having comics that are only โtied to the gamesโ losely
Yo, I'll tell you why you're here, why you're really, really here
So tell me what you ship, what you really, really ship
You wanna, you wanna, you wanna, you wanna
You wanna really, really, really wanna self-insert, ah
If you wanna post your ship here, you gotta have some class
Making OOC pairings, that is total ass
If you want your headcanon, forget the fucking lore
If you post that cringe again, you'll get shown the door
What do you think about that? Now you know how we feel
Say you're here for gameplay, are you for real?
I won't be hasty, I'll read your reply
"Shadouge is canon," okay, you can die
If you wanna post your ship here, you gotta have some class
Making OOC pairings, that is total ass
If you want your headcanon, forget the fucking lore
If you post that cringe again, you'll get shown the door
Slam your keyboard down and sperg out all around
Slam your keyboard down and sperg out all around
Here's the ships that you'll find, you wanna talk about love you got be kind
You got SonAmy, you expect to see
You got Shadria, spread like diarrhea
You got Sonurge, there's a real splurge
As for Miles P?
You like loli
Slam your keyboard down and sperg out all around
Slam your keyboard down and sperg out all around
If you wanna post your ship here, you gotta have some class
Making OOC pairings, that is total ass
If you want your headcanon, forget the fucking lore
If you post that cringe again, you'll get shown the door
Slam your keyboard down and sperg out all around.
Some new artwork from Sega of Japan
Posters going up around the Joyopolis area soon
>>534654045So far, AI porn is killing the income of porn artists
>>534654387For the writers to force their head canon and poor character interpretations on the franchise
Not to mention waste time and space on random shit for non-fans (how many pages did those two gay birds get in IDW again?)
>>534653074>Mentally ill >Hates me There has to be a correlation between being mentally ill and obsessively bringing me up. Everyone I know who does that is deeply mentally unwell themselves.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say they do it to feel better about themselves and their own issues.
We had one proper IDW Sonic defender in these threads and he had to go and piss off the JP Silverfags so now I don't get to debate him anymore. I used to hate him, but now I miss him.
>>534648136What the fuck is this? I can't see it
>>534654825Not really helping your case.
>>534654929Its Barry having sex with silver
>>534654947What case? I legitimately just think some of you are insane.
>>534654825The pot calling the kettle black.
>>534655069Guess your mirror must be broken.
>>534655112I'm not the one who shies away from truth.
>This year, ShadowTH and Sonic Rush turned 20 years old
>In one year, Sonic 06, Sonic Rivals, and Sonic Riders will be 20 years old
>In two years, Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces will be 10 years old. Rush Adventure, Rivals 2, and Secret Rings will be turning 20
>In three years (if it gets that far), IDW Sonic will have been running for 10 years. Chronicles, Riders: Zero Gravity, and Unleashed will be turning 20
Where did the time go /sthg/?
>>534655410Time waits for no one. Its our job to enjoy what little time we have and make the best out of it
>>534655373>Shadow's so short it's difficult to hold an umbrella for MariaI wish we could see them enjoying the seasons together. The rain, the snow, spring, fall.
Sonic is a punk bitch who is terrified of time
Thats why heโs been a teenager for 30 years
>>534655607>I wish my self insert could do X with Shadowdogfucker
>>534655627He will outlive us. Unfortunately, due to our actions towards the planet, even the wind will change and become different.
That is our fate.
>>534655697Man this image makes me sad for roug
For how much its memed on as being bad, I'm having fun playing shadow the hedgehog.
I could definitely see all the edgey elements being extremely jarring when it first came out though
>>534655845You are going to hate playing the game ten times (if not more if you messed a route up).
>>534655697I like that pic
I hope one day we'll get a SonicPict drawing of two characters sharing an umbrella.
>>534655410>10 years of IDW>Not a single good storyGoddamn...
Again I want to thank you /sthg/ for being a community not super loaded with drama but also not censored either.
>>534656381There are good stories outside of the main comic.
>>534656447the anniversary oneshots are where they put all the love for sure
>>534655407>Cucker and the Cucked.
haha sonic games are so bad am i rite? lol gotta go fast
>>534657239I think the aesthetic of shth is perfect. It's perfectly 2005.
>tails and honey if tails didn't get on the carnival ride and vonit all over her
>>534656659Scrapnik Island
SONIC COLORS HAS BETTER WRITING THAN FRONTIERS!
>>534649326No smartass gearhead gf...
Rails is cool, but I like Wails more
Sonic porn comics used to put actual work into coming up with reasons why the characters are fucking. Now they just fuck for no reason. I hate it.
>>534659438I've talked to actual coomheads on Twitter, theyโre so brainrotted they see Sonic characters as meat puppets that fuck anything for their own amusement.
>>534652309*spindashes into the void*
Iโm not used to this place slowing to a crawl
Last time this happened the website died for a week
>>534662960Too busy gooning to sontails
>>534662049Every time you send Fiona to the void she only comes back stronger.
What is your ideal IDW arc? It doesn't have to be one that will "save" the comic.
>>534664262Amy and Tails having passionate sex
>>534664262The pre-Metal Virus era and Bad Guys. Those are the only two half decent points.
>>534664262These three + Silver actually doing a mission, fighting badniks, destroying an Egg Lab and saving the day with no petty melodrama bullshit whatsoever.
How do I get hired by Sega and put my fafiction in the games?
>>534665131Sure, as long as it isn't more Whispangle.
>>534664262Sonic and friends go to a city for a personal reason and accidentally come across some sort of danger they need to solve.
>>534663345I've thrown her in there 60 times, and will do it at least 40 more.
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>534654947I mean, hes a blogposted obsessed with namefags, what do you expect
>>534664262IDW's Last Issue
>open thread
>foxes
Today is a good day.
>>534665131Romance is fine, just no more Whispangle.
What happens to the IDW characters when the comic gets cancelled?
>>534666272Vault
Also, the fujo bait OP killed the general.
>>534666272The same thing that happened to Sticks.
>>534664262Sonic and Eggman finally admitting that they're in love with each other
Sonic would prefer being gay with Shadow than being in a relationship with Blaze btw
>>534669907Sonaze always felt like the second coming of Sonally to me
>>534670168His blobs are too long
Sonails being the most popular ship on /sthg/ is crazy
>>534664262Lanolin reforming the Diamond Cutters but actually getting to go on fun missions that feel like Sonic instead of one city tour and then drama fiesta nine million featuring the Phantom Rider. Bonus points if Tangle gets some development for once.
>>534669907Sonic would prefer being gay with Shadow than being in a relationship with Amy btw
>>534669894Sonic The Hedgehog has crazy hot sex with Ms. Frizzle
>>534670771Mrs Frizzle is unironically a good character template for Sonic
They tried to sabotage Movie Amy
>>534670445>Sonails being the most popular ship on /sthg/ is crazyKnuxouge wrecked Sonails.
Shadria, Sonamy, and Tailsmo are 1 vote behind it but also had the same vote numbers as Sontails for quite a while.
>>534671256>Knuxouge wrecked Sonails.The top 2 polls results are obviously botted, or at the very least subject to spite voting, let's be honest.
>>534670445>>534669907Sonic would prefer being gay with Tails than being in a relationship with Blaze btw
>>534671469>The top 2 polls results are obviously botted, or at the very least subject to spite voting, let's be honest.Sontails definitely is spite voted vs Knuxouge seeing all the drama in the thread on these 2 ships.
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The results will be used as an official representation of ship popularity on /sthg/. I will not include the meme answers.
>>534672197How do you determine a meme answer? There's noncanon ships that people take seriously (Sonurge) and official ships that don't make sense in canon (Sonally). I'd consider them just as valid as Sonamy still.
Live-action was a strange choice for Sonic
>>534672319>How do you determine a meme answer?If the ship is essentially never posted about, never gets fanart, has no basis, has virtually no fans, but ranks high anyway because it's funny to vote for a nonsensical answer or a namefag's OC. In that image, both Stangle and Gardilla would count as meme ships.
>>534672197Disqualify the top 2 results, or at the very least apply a penalty.
>>534673436Even with 1 or 2 people saying they spited, knuxouge still wins.
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>>534671562>>534671279>>534671151>>534671024When are you going to realize that nobody cares about authentic characterization anymore? Every time someone points out how un-Sonic Sonic was in Tailstube, Sonic shorts on YouTube and IDW comics, you get called a JPurist every single time. The whole fandom just wants Sonic to cry and have realistic panic attacks.
>>534674269I wonder if other fandoms with similar characters have people like this. Are there people who want Bugs Bunny and Mrs Frizzle to be more vulnerable? Goku perhaps? I know this exact thing happened to Lara Croft gradually.
>>534673436>>534673971We don't know how many spite voters there were. I could subtract 1 or 2 votes from Knuxouge and Sontails due to the spitevoting, but anyone could claim a ship is spitevoted. Knuxouge being that high tracks at least, it's a ship that has a lot of casual enjoyers who don't post it often and there's one guy that spergs about it so people like to piss him off.
post credit scenes are non canon tho
why do you care
>>534674521>post credit scenes are non canon thoNo they aren't. They're literally in the movie, and your brain is fried from too many online debates.
>>534674376Nah Goku is safe due to the fact that most of his fans are manly boys or young adult males who wanted nothing but cool flashy fights with hype moments and aura. White tumblr millenial women couldn't touch them
Woman here. Women shouldn't touch the Sonic franchise. They uwuify everything they touch. Even I do it by accident. Women should be banned from Sonic forever.
>>534674635robotnik knew nothing about shadow in sonic 3
this is contradicted by sonic 2 post credit scene
>>534674695Anti-windfags shouldn't even be a thing. It's literally just a product of fucking comics and cartoons. Shit from outside of the games.
"Boo hoo they made Sonic boring". I would be fine if they considered Sonic boring and just admitted it instead of pretending there was anything else.
"Windic" is literally just Sonic. He jokes more now but other than that it's literally just been this.
It's not some insanely difficult thing to understand. It's as simple as playing the videogames.
>>534674695This is the only intelligent post I've seen made with this particular image attached. Other than that it's been the most obvious third world seethe ever.
>>534674781>Woman hereLiar
I think the wind discussion has gotten so esoteric that people don't realize how damning it really is. It's just as simple as Sonic behaving the way he does in the games. Not in Archie or IDW. People who disagree with "The wind" tend to be actively advocating that Sonic act the way he does in comic books. That's fucking retarded. It's a product of IDW writing the characters inaccurately and IDW fans not wanting to admit it. It would be so simple if the comic just didn't exist.
Archie at least had the excuse that it was based on old media. There is no reason this should have carried over into a modern comic.
>The Windfaggot vs Antiwindfaggot debate is still going
>>534675692Learn to speak english
>>534675692One side is people who play the games. The other side is people who read the comics. It's obvious that one of these two sides is fucking delusional.
>>534672197>Momthrowers defeating ShatougecelsHilarious
>>534675876>Fast Friend Forever which was meant for babies has Rouge with visible cleavage and naked backwhat is the point
>>534675796>Learn to speak EnglishI am speaking English. Are you complaining about the fact I didnโt include a period or something?
>>534676174Wow. This is hilarious.
>>534676362Shadow's quills would destroy a sleeping bag
>>534675626There's something kind of funny about the fact that, in their effort to "unify" the franchise by making the comics more in-line with the games, they made the confusion over characterization even worse. Anti-windfags are often Archiefags/IDWfags/shipfags, but they rarely acknowledge this themselves. They don't ever say that's their preferred characterization for Sonic because they know they'd get torn a new one. So they just lash out. What's even more concerning is the level of hostility. They openly tell certain windfags to slit their own throats, as if they'd genuinely enjoy someone dying over a blue hedgehog. They target anyone who dares to engage in debates about characterization under the veil of anonymity.
>>534676469That would be a funny end to the gag
>>534676486You're not actually complaining about the fact people tell each other to kill themselves anonymously on this site of all places, are you?
>>534676785Prime really did turn Sonic into Amy and Amy into Margaret
>>534674781Man here. Can I have the sex with you?
>>534676486This is correct in every way. Attempting to make it "one canon" has done nothing but give comicfags and gamefags a direct reason to fight each other.
>>534676881Le One Brand meme
They want to change Sonic, Shadow and Silver to "give" them a personality but they want to change Amy to take her's away.
>>534675628WTF TAILS NO RAPEING ALLOWED!!
>>534676305Boobies are the best, don't delete them.
>>534676486>Anti-windfags are often Archiefags/IDWfags/shipfags, but they rarely acknowledge this themselves.This is one thing I find annoying about "anti windfags". They will vaguepost about how "Sega wants to make Sonic boring" or "Windnic is a horrible character".
Hey, those are okay opinions to have. I disagree, but nobody needs to like the things I like.
But they just won't specify what they think is interesting. They avoid mentioning what Sonic they actually want. Because if they admit "I want Sonally to be canon" or "I want the Sonic from the IDW comics" they will immediately get hit with the response "Oh, so you don't care about Sonic in the first place". To a lot of people in this fandom, getting outed as not playing the games is one of the most humiliating things that can happen. It invalidates everything else you have to say.
Additionally, they don't want to admit that they have conflated things from the comics as canon and only realized it during the argument.
Stuff like Sonic having a harem, insecurites, or quipping. Being insanely arrogant. They don't like the realization that they want character traits the games literally never had.
>>534676638The king did say she and her
Blaze is flat and mannish
>>534677171I donโt think Sage will be happy about thisโฆ
>>534677510And should kill herself
>>534677757>Sonic and Shadow went on an epic adventure and saw the death of the multiverse>They never spoke of it ever again
>>534677610What episode is this from?
>>534677625Everyone is happy about boobies.
>>534677610Cream the rabbit
>>534677916Into the wilderness
>>534677924Stupid sexy doe...
>>534677924Iโm sure Bump is happy to know they are appreciated
>>534677261Lol, this. They never specify the alternative to Windnic, because they know they'll get jumped for saying something like Archie even though it's pretty obvious that's what they want without saying it.
>>534677924I mean, now that you mention it, she does look very pleased.
>>534677261>getting outed as not playing the games is one of the most humiliating things that can happen. It invalidates everything else you have to say.The reason not playing the games is humiliating to them is because they KNOW Sonic is a video game franchise. Everything else, the comics, the movies, the cartoons, they're all derivatives that exist solely because the games were and are successful. When you strip away that foundation, you're left with nothing but fanfiction-tier interpretations that have no real weight behind them.
Anti-windfags are acutely aware of this hierarchy, which is why they're so insecure (and thus aggressive) about it. They know their preferred characterizations are built on shaky ground. Their comics are literally just licensed advertisements that take liberties with characters they didn't create, and anti-windfags have to live with the fact that their "versions" of Sonic are essentially expensive fanfiction that could be retconned at any moment by daddy SoJ.
That's why they never openly admit they prefer the comics. They know it makes them look like secondary fans who latched onto inferior products.
Instead, they try to chip away at windfags (gamefags) from the shadows, concern trolling about how "Windfags are forcing things on us and harassing us" while never actually defending their preferred Sonic interpretations on their own merits. Because they can't. What are they gonna say? "Sonic should act like a condescending quip-machine faggot because Ian said so"? Lol, lmao.
Their entire strategy relies on obfuscation and emotional manipulation, pure cope from people who know they're wrong but are too invested in their headcanon to admit it, lashing out whenever their little bubble of delusion is popped by a pin with the words "OOC" on it.
>>534644841 Reading too much into things?
