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http://cc-ro.com/
Rates: 5x/5x/5x/10x - Pre-rebirth server where you collect every card in the game for permanent accountwide buffs. Has a seasonal and Legacy (no-wipe) server.
>Month 2 has started! Month 3 will feature bonus EXP and Dropshttps://rentry.org/ragnav
Ragna/v/ 3 - 7xEXP/3~10x Drop - Episode 14.2: Eclage. Pre-renewal with rebalance changes and select bits of Renewal maps, monsters and items downported from Renewal. Running since August '24.
>1 year anniversary event for the month of August! Monsters drop tickets which can be exchanged for useful items for new and returning players!https://my-ro.com
Rates: 3x/3x/10x/15x - Episode 11.3: Nameless Island - Events and seasonal items. Pre-Renewal low rate with skill balance changes
https://ro.gnjoylatam.com/en/main
Renewal - Official latin america servers, "Female Knight Thighs" guild on Yggdrasil server is recruiting /vg/ members. Self published by Gravity, not local companies. Promised updates every 2 months, will catch up to 4th jobs in a year.
>Resourcesratemyserver.net
divine-pride.net
irowiki.org/classic/ (pre-re)
irowiki.org/wiki/ (renewal)
rocalc.com
@autoloot 0 gamers were here
>>534102689
>myro and latam still in the OP
ok I downloaded CCRO any free gib for me?
>>534681310Doodler beta should at least be in there too as a general news
>>534681443Shit you're right! My bad, the test will probably be over by the time we get to a new thread though. Was only for a week right?
>>534682215I think so. Just dump the info here still thats fine
>>534681375infiltrate the guild and raid the storage
>>534683648Please do, we need more room in there.
>>534683648there's nothing good inside anymore. I put shadow valkyrie armor and it's gone in mere 2 minutes.
>>534668568He got the card in the first party and the loot distro was fixed right before ifrit in the second, why do you lie? It's not like you have to lie to make him look bad this time.
>>534683282absolutely nobody play myro anymore so you do the mathh
>>534683282Me. Im magnanimous on victory however, you are all allowed to use damage spells again.
>Dodo's too busy to play ro
it's over
>>534685718nobody from here
>>534686023he was just tired of y'all bullshits and was being polite about it
>Beelz doesn't have power up or EQ
I can tank him
>>534686773a total of like three people from here played there, it wasn't worth posting in the first place
>>534688493You weren't invited
>>534686023The day Dodo comes back is the day I'll play once again
>>534687808>y'allstopped reading there
>>534688309*exiles u*
nothin personnel, kid
Banish that nigger sanchi from the guild
>>534688931Just don't roll the 1% bwo
I have a 10% demon res shield saved just for the occasion, but i have worries that -60% healing from crit wounds will fuck me in the ass
>>534684139I still log in
>>534688493Honestly if not for Bullies playing there exclusively to troll Lull MyRO would've disappeared from the OP a month after it was first posted because nobody fucking cared for that shitty SEAniggers server
>>534681375i can gib you stuff. whats your IGN?
I just saw ogiue on ccro.
>>534691035>read this>checks handsLuckily still Arian
I just saw ennui on doddler
Diddler serb has some strange stuff in it, from spawning patterns, mechanical changes, and even into...custom mobs?
Where did the other players go as well?
>>534699071depends on who what players you mean,
>>534698352>spawning patterns, mechanical changesThat's because it's an early episode, and it's just a beta test
knight fucking sucks, seriously. What exactly am I doing wrong? 70 vit and properly equipped and enemy still hit me hard.
>>534706675You need +7 gear, shields, cloaks, etc
>>534706675Kill faster and carry more pots. But mainly, kill faster.
>>534706675Vit doesn't really reduce damage much, it just gives you a bigger HP pool to take hits from.
You need cards and refine for defense, if you're not using the correct reductions then expect to get melted by any strong enemy.
>>534706675>vitit increases your soft def that subtracts final damage by certain (usually small) amount, its not great and this stat is used for healthmaxxing and aliment immunity
you want as much hard def (achievable from gear) as possible, magni set is your go-to choice as knight, also check out raydric card (or rune if ccro) and snowiers for sustain
>>534707119>Kill faster but I need agi for that...
>>534707326Not really, get a weapon with 4 slots like a Katana if you're using 2h swords, refine it to +10 and slot it with 3 anti-racial 1 anti-element / 3 anti-racial 1-anti size then bowling bash your way to victory, works even with relatively low agi as long as you drink a berserk potion and use 2h quicken.
Same for 1h spears, get a pike [4], refine, and do the same thing, but it will be slower since no 2h quicken to rely on and worse aspd modifier.
Extra points if you combine them with a proper element endow.
>>534707951But with spears you can at least use shields, with 2hq he's fucked
I never realized how powerful a QoL-feature being able to change your job on the fly is
>>534708304that's not QoL, that's retarded shit
i felt my cock growing little by little with each completed job change quest on ccro
>>534708157Yes, that's the trade-off, 2h sword = faster kill time but worse defense, 1h spear = slower kill time but access to shield + shield cards.
>>534706675Also talking about survivability, Knights should be carrying potions or whatever other healing items like meat, fresh fish, mastelas, royal jelly, ice creams, etc, many newbies fall into the trap of being stingy with healing items, when it's actually very important to rely on them for bosses or awful areas.
They literally heal more the more Vit you have (2% more per point), and particularly Knights get more out of them from Increased HP Recovery (200% efficiency at lvl 10).
>>534708696Nono, skipping the game = qol. You think I wanna play Ragnarok Online? Fuck that shit.
why bother bringing pot when you can just shoot anything from distance and stop them with ankle snare?
>>534709965that's for cowards, I bet you play sneaky archer on skyrim too
Get a Soul Linker to live in your pocket and just use 1hs + shield with 1hq.
Best of both worlds.
>>534708696>retarded shit>spend several hours rolling a character for <x> purpose to use exactly once for 5 minutes>spend an hour rolling a vendor on a 2nd account>spend hours building an endow slave, on a 3rd account>spend two hours building a warper >spend several days building a dedicated crafteryeah fuck your time-wasting bullshit
miyu is a furry, I used to erp with them on second life ages ago
>oink oink oink
>bububhubhubhubhu
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>mahwastedtimerino
>wueuweyuaugdau
Bragi, Bragi,
Forever call the poets name.
My songs are his breath,
My mind is his will,
All wandering poets are his people,
And all praise shall go to him.
>>534711578this doesn't excuse his behaviour in ET
>>534711702It's not supposed to excuse it, it's another nail for the coffin.
>>534711623Ablrbrlrbrlbrbrbr
>>534711623The Minstrel...
>>534716714legacy and ragna are interchangeable, if u wanna play with people choose seasonal
>>534711369if you don't want to play the game then don't play the game
>>534711369go play FF14 if you want soulless shit
guess I'll just start as a snigga
>>534724031Depends on what you like to do, I'd say go for snigger as first always
>>534721048August of 2024, ragna/v/...home
come join doddler ro, 103 players online, it's very much alive and feels similar to playing ro for the very first time
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lmao boomers out in force
I'm not wasting my time on something that's ending in 3 days
>speedrun RO
>get bored in 3 days
>quit
>*months later*
>"yeah that server was gay"
Is it considered lame to make an archer? I know they're easy to play but...
>>534732457on ccRO both hunters and GS are equally lame as fuck but you do whatever you want, you'll still do more DPS than anybody else can dream about
>>534732457yea, make a nin or wiz as a starter instead
>>534732457play whatever you think will be fun!
>>534732457>>534732661Just play for fun and pick a class/job you like, if you let yourself get too worried about what others think of what you're playing you'll have a terrible time
>>534732725I'm cumming on wizard and not-priest
>>534732457No as long as you go dancer and post pics in the thread
did these always spam heal so much or are they edited
>>534735927The last few days have been noticeably slower. Im actually looking up what im missing and decide to hunt for exact cards instead of just going wherever and killing stuff.
Notable Cards were the weird desert bird mvp on 2nd try, Eddga on 2nd try and Goblin Leader first try.
Did big peco farming for VERY long only to kill a single stray Wildrose and get the card, only to farm for much longer again for the card.
Today got Wood Golem in like 150 kills and did Wootan Shooter after.
At around 100 kills i missclick a single Wood Golem only to get a repeat card and having to kill another 100 before card.
Farmed yesterday for a Cardo and another hour today but no luck.
After that went to farming Venomous. One map - 10 spawns every 5 minutes. Very tiresome.
Get bored. Stop
>go to Majoruros>get card in 5 kills>Decide to check market. >Cardo Store! >3 million. >DEAL!Go back to farming Venomous, stupid spider appears, get it down to 25%, die because dont have pots and underestimate damage.
>go back>spider gone>fuck>look for Venomous>see Gunslinger>damn he prob killed my spider>look further up>hes killing my spider>i get spider card>he TPs away>kill next Venomous>get card>go to Sleeper map next>kill 1 Sleeper - get cardTHIS FUCKING GAME MAN
>>534736370Almost there indeed. I wonder what the super painful threshold will be. Prob 380 or something.
>>534738619Playing with the guild the real time I felt roadblocked and needing to wait for everyone to gather was around 430, it's around where the only things left are the EQ mvps, Bee, Bio3, and ET
It is time once again for me to come here to tell you to go play renewal because that is what you actually want but refuse to play.
>>534739460no we don't and i can't wait to hear your retarded rebuttal when all we're doing is playing a fun card collecting server
>>534739460Why do you assume people want to play Renewal? Renewal has a different system for basically everything, from how the basic stats work, the way your gear is oriented around extreme overrefines, how the game is balanced around every class having extreme dmg AoEs, to how enemy drops and exp are calculated, etc, etc; all changes which are for the most part just not fun.
>>534739460>I see you guys having fun so why not come over here and suffer instead?What about no
>>534688493Honestly if not for GabrielElSiempreBendito playing there exclusively to be the first Moonlight Flower solo evolution run and taking down the server for 24 hours after finding/reporting an exploit it would've disappeared from the OP a month after it was first posted because nobody fucking cared for that shitty SEAniggers server.
>>534746736Which bullies is that? I legit can't remember all of their alt names
>>534741074dat fukken cat
>>534747117That's literally all of them
>>534748883If I see that fucking cat one more time
exafarts, in my ragnarok online?
It's more likely than you think.
>>534751901wtf there's a lot of players there
>>534751901This shit is so fun.
>generic ass FFXIV aoe ground markers
not my fucking RO, kill yourself
>>534752185it's literally called doodlerRO
>>534752185This is the future you malding motherfucker
That's all it takes huh? No wonder E33 got so popular despite being a fucking average game
>Same exact game but uglier
>IT'S SO GOOD
hypebeasts need to all fucking die
>>534752419nah you're thinking of GDX32
>>534752419You are free to keep playing retail RO if this bothers you that much
>>534752185>complain about stacking on same tile brainless mvp meta>add countermeasures to meta>NOT MY FUCKING ROFace it, this is the evolution of RO. You're welcome to stay on your stagnant private servers that will never improve because of tech limitations.
>>534707326I dont know what are you farming but you are suppossed to mob and kill with bowling bash/brandish, and tank with hp items the process, for that you only need str/vit and little dex.
agi in a knight is useless, because you dont have dodge, and so will die to anything relevant, if you wanted to just hit enemies one by one should have made a rogue or hunter
>but muh meme agi knightit just doesnt do anything that other classes cant do better in every aspect
>>534752884I actually wonder if it's really even client limitations, I mean, Echoes of Morroc had enemies casting skills that you had to move out of the way from, like, Zeroms would just stun you for 5s if you stayed near them without evading the big red AoE danger zone tiles, and I feel like I've seen other servers also do "get out of the way" attacks for some enemies like Bakonawa.
I am become huntard, I can already feel my IQ dropping.
>>534753714I assume it's one of those "You can make a fully functional videocall in minecraft, but you need 10 years of java experience and no social life" kind of deal to implement custom stuff.
>>534754025It already has by playing sissyro
this dude doesn't even try to hide his samefagging anymore
PermadeathRO would filter you so hard people will sing epic tales of your legendary demise
>>534707951>>534707137As the other Knight that was asking about Bowling Bash the other day, I'm wondering how decent my stat spread is now.
I dropped AGI/Flee entirely and went for more VIT and DEF. I just threw on an old 2x Zipper Bear Excalibur I used on Crusader and Vali's/Vidar's as some place holder gear for now.
Using Bowling Bash has been a lot more fun and effective than auto-attacking so far. But I was wondering, does ASPD effect skill usage at all, or is it for auto-attacks only?
>>534754326hmm yeah, I guess making fun mechanics with the old client is too much work.
I wonder how long would it take to replicate the entire RO map on DoddlerRo, other than that it looks really fun.
>>534755072>StatsThe Stat spread is almost fine, you ideally always want to end your Str and Dex on multiples of 10 (so it should be either 68 + 12 or 78 + 12 Str and 45 + 5 Dex) since those have a bonus, though I'm not sure how to feel about your Hit, it seems really low, I guess this pic is without buffs active.
>Aspd on BBASPD does affect it, so you still want to use a berserk potion and if you're not fighting anything super strong, a 2h-sword for 2-hand Quicken (or get a Soul Linker friend to give you Knight Link for 1-hand Quicken).
>GearYour Defense is looking good, Magni Odin set is great, as for your weapon you may want to switch that excalibur for a different weapon because the Zipper Bears don't benefit you as much as other cards could, they also should be draining your SP super fast since you're hitting multiple targets twice each (which is probably why you're running so much Int).
You also can stack the Snowier clip to get double healing out of the Ice Creams and keep the Creamy clip on your hotbar as a quick switch unless you're teleporting non-stop.
>>534756205I've been mistakenly thinking that the SP drain on the Zipper Bears were only on auto attacks. I guess that explains why my SP runs out faster than it should.
I'll try to see if I can get another 1-handed weapon to replace it with so I can continue using a shield. I'm on Ragnav, so I always have 1-handed quicken at least.
I'll try to drop some INT afterwards and rebalance my STR and DEX too. Thanks for the advice.
So it's all pay to win? Too bad
365 and double lucky!
Today is my day!
Thank you Jesus!
>>534738929Ill join a guild next league prob.
Unless i cant make it to 400 without one.
>>534757927so you were the nigger stealing my garm kills?
Desperate Bulliekek dev-chode clikek cope ragnakek based kneel monkey bullieshart utshitpiss LARP yellow key fucking sociopath lying buff trooned Desperate AAAIIIIEEEEE Rebuttal Bulliekek clikek cope ragnakek bullieshart tranny utshitpiss LARP yellow key buzzwords fucking cheating schizo lying dev-chud cope slapped ifrit multiclikek ERP bio3 cringe KWAB umm shit mvp bullieshits shitlicking xherims SEAggy truth tranny bitch eddgatos fucking retard nerf kys vincent Tirion Bulliekek faggotry clikek cope ragnakek bullieshart soul utshitpiss retard LARP doxx yellow key fucking prontera fountain bitchboy incompetent troon lying dev-chud cope dicksucking troon rat rope slapped ifrit multiclikek ERP bio3 KWAB umm mvp bullieshits shitlicking GTB SEAggy truth bitch fallen takosharti eddga fucking meds cliquecord retard vincent cope chad pinoy slapped ifrit multiclikek ERP bio3 KWAB umm lied mvp bullieshits shitlicking SEAggy truth bitch fucking retard vincent
>>534758741Nope, got it first try.
Was just randomly looking after getting the Chepet card.
>the last 15 posts are from 1 ip
Grim
>>534760967Including this post btw
is this alche-nigger sanchit?
>think about dropping by to see some old friends
>dodo stopped playing
Damn kinda kills my mood on logging in again
>>534773781what old friends bro? nobody is there
yoo ccro patcher and some gepard.dll got flagged by my antivirus
>my eardrums being blown out every time meteor assault goes off and hits multiple enemies
>>534751901what is this? new game mode or something?
>>534775606old calculator autist remaking ragnarok's backend to allow smaller groups to easily spin up a server like for minecraft.
https://www.dodsrv.com/ragnarok/db/
what is the correct gunslinger stat allocation? dex and agi?
>>534776297what are they doing in the screenshot?
give me throwing ninja build
>>534759059bulliekwabs on suicide watch
>>534732457why do you care about other people's opinion? either make something fun for yourself (taek) or make something that works best in pts (anything not melee)
if you get wrong people into your head they'll ruin you for their own gain, remember that
>>534778110some dex, with str/agi as the focus. even though it says it never misses, you need dex otherwise it'll only do low amounts of damage
if you're on ccRO, you should have shinobi card, cause auto-cast shurikens blows kunai and huuma out of the water
Max throw mastery > throw shuriken > ninja mastery > cicada > ninja aura > then from there you should be able to get mirror image
summoning anons for ifrit lets make it happen soon
I'm on Diddler's. Where the fuck do I farm rough oridecon?
>>534778986and what should I do with MVP like ifrit or rangdis?
Which class is the most needed on ragnav?
>>534779309forget classes, you need players, dumbass
>>534777719This.
https://youtu.be/oKl0ypoKN0U
>>534779000Not sure if I can help but I'll be around
>>534779350Which players is needed most then?
>>534779406are you telling there is gonna be a world where RO isnt a janky, laggy, ancient online tech, desynced, rubberbanding piece of shit?
>>534779350What the fuck is your problem, faggot?
>>534779851no cause it isn't fully out yet
>>534779923he wants a wipe because locusts only swarm to fresh starts.
I WASTED 5M AND NOT A SINGLE JAKK RUNE, I found one in the shop for 500k.
>>534781192bwo, your @whosells?
>>534781704read the second sentence.
>>534781704not that anon but i could have used that info two weeks ago
next you are telling me there is a webinterface indexer
>>534781916he spent 5 mil and then bought one. he could have found one in a shop before spending 5m
>>534784153but gatcha is so fun when you don't need to spend real money...
>>534779406>people soaking those Exaflare thunderstorms>event participation rewardNow that's how you make RO fun
>>534779309Id say paladins, champs and creators
>>534787421paladindu here, where do you need me?
I had a late start on the Ragnarok Rebuild(doddler's) test server today. I'm quite impressed by it. It's still quite rough but, even in its current state, it's a very playable Ragnarok server. No lags, either. No desyncs that I could notice.
However, I've been rather blindsided by this release. I did not think it would coincide so perfectly with the Ragna/v/ 3 anniversary.
On the other hand, it's not a secret that player attendance on the server has been slowing down. Up until now, whenever I logged into the server, I'd always spot at least a couple of people actively playing, no matter the time of day. But over the last week, there have been instances where I'd come to do my regular patrols on the server and find that nobody was moving. Meaning, only AFKers were connected. This is one of the signs that things are coming to an end.
As you know, I've promised that I'd keep the server running up until people stop playing. But it's not quite fair for me to declare that to be case right now because I know that quite a few of our regulars are on doddler's test server. His server ends on the 18th, which is 2 days after our anniversary. After that date, should the situation not improve, it's possible that I might make the call to set a closure date.
I don't think it'll be the case, considering we still get quite a few people during busy hours, but nonetheless the situation is what it is.
On the 16th, I'll be hosting an event in-game, so look forward to it. I'll be more generous with rewards than usual.
>>534789281You're such a fucking retard...
>>534789281I traded cards for tickets to undercut the anniversary shop today
>>534789281no sane person wants to play an MMO with a single digit pop. launch v4. all our friends will be back.
>>534789281excellent choice of image btw
>>534789281I can't even log in, what's your password requirement again, with number, symbol, and 12 characters minimum?
>>534790457Fuck I don't even remember. I think it required at least one uppercase letter.
>all it took was one swordie scorned over bad RNG to kill a server
a weird chapter for /rog/
>>534788738>paladinducoonsader
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>>534790554next time make a website that actually send email.
>>534791993If you want to do account recovery, make a new one and log in. I'll talk to you 1:1 so we can recover your password.
sure glad I installed chinkro
dev we are playing on ccro, you can claim we are not your target audience but reality tells you otherwise
ignore this post so it wont disturb your echochamber too much
Counter Kick !!
Heel Drop !!
Counter Kick !!
Heel Drop !!
Tornado Kick !!
Counter Kick !!
Heel Drop !!
Sissyro is not ro so no you are not.
>didn't get invited to ET or ifrit party...
I'm gonna stuck in 300 cards am I...
>>534791241it's almost like videogames should be fun instead of a chore
>>534793621you don't like any of the servers listed here so this statement means nothing
>this custom ro server isnt ro! (i have bias towards it but lets not mention that ok)
>this custom ro server is ro! (i have bias towards it but lets not mention that ok)
bro too many words hold on im in the middle of something
>>534793601what exactly happened here
>>534795151Arc Angeling treated to some feet in a 1:1
Anyone got into RO3 beta tommorrow?
>>534795681How does it compare to sinX or hunter dps?
How do you guys deal with no increased HP/SP regen on ccro? Everything is so slow...
>>534797618theres a handful of cards that boosts those, accs and middle headgears that reduce SP consumption or provide regen
>>534797618Recovery items.
>>534796932Not sure but should be pretty close, as you can see taek ranker is among the few classes that can solo Arc Angeling.
>>534797618fucking SIT and fucking ENJOY fucking VISUALS you adhd monkey
>>534796932Against low defense enemies, it's far, far better, against high defense ones it's pretty mediocre.
Though in party their dmg increases for each party member, so they can make up for it with that (and also they're tanky).
>>534798940And chat with your friends if you have any!
>>534797618>eat jellies>get sp+sp recovery cardsez
>>534801791What cards. U meant runes?
cards
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>>534789281come play ccro with us
>>534802438good joke, dev doesn't even play his own server
meanwhile i see the ccro admins actively playing
>>534802557You don't think that's an issue in itself?
>>534803210>out of touch dev adds unpopular grind content that he himself will never have to touch or suffer through>chad game playing dev that knows how his server feels and takes feedback for changes and actively improves the core experience of the game
>>534802557Who the heck is he in game?
>>534805305caju and spirit, if you're asking who the admins are that play
>>534805434I've seen Caju around, I didn't realise he was staff wtf...
>>534806407What the fuck is wrong with you?
Aieee it's a raid from PC
i hate ro so fucking his wife sounds good
>>534806707that's a big butt
>>534806707This is what 99 vit looks like
>>534807267yes, 99 buttality
>>534789281That's a shame.
And that last hurrah event is especially a shame for me as I'll be out that day at a game. Well it is what it is...
>>534802438I have a profound respect for the wizard-level devs at ccRO and wish that I had 1/10 of their skills, but their server doesn't appeal to me as a player.
>>534802557>>534803210>>534803261It's not unusual for players to feel uncomfortable when they see devs and staff playing on their own servers. And personally, I feel the same way when I'm around as a player.
starting to form for ifrit
wake up!
>>534808502give me a few minutes I just woke up...
>>534808543kk you have time
>>534789281If you close it can you give everyone mvp cards and +100 equips for funsies the last day
>>534808480Who were you on /v/3 ? I think at this point its safe to say it.
>>534806707if chelle wasn't with ro i'd make her mai waifu
T*** WAKE UP IT'S IFFY TIME
>>534789281>I'll be more generous with rewards than usual.Anything short of an ERP session with you servicing all veteran players who supported you and your server through all these months wont be a suitable reward.
>>534809815>asanagievery fucking time
more
>>534809287We can have fun on the last day, no problem.
>>534809815I'm not into that.
>>534789281Can't you just migrate to the free google servers and stop updating it like 4leaf
>>534810158Obv you're not gonna say who you were... Anyway what's the /v/3 anniversary date so I can consider login
What the fuck its true
>dev can't handle a single month of people trying another TEMPORARY server
Jesus christ maybe I shouldn't come back after this if its so volatile, actually wasted 6 months on /v/3 just for him to pull the plug when I take a single break.
>>534810547it's your fault, shouldn't have taken a break
>>534810547I think you're missing the fact that noone's coming back.
>mfw having fun taking a break from Ragna/v/3 playing some Tibia
>EK almost level 70 axe 93
>now have to decide if I want to keep having fun on Tibia or if I want to keep Ragna/v/3 alive
Don't do this to me
imagine /v/4 on doodler engine
Just keep it running until my cooking arc is done and we're good.
>>534810397Things having a start and an end is not a bad thing.
>>534810432August 16th is our anniversary. Fortunately, it'll be a Saturday.
>>534810547I-I-I'm not jealous or a-anything, you baka~ baka~
>>534810625>>534810845Sorry, it's not my goal to twist your arm into playing my server. All I meant to say was that I've begun to spot periods where player activity had ceased entirety. And the cessation of player's interest is my criteria for 'calling it'.
You do not and should not feel singled out. Eventually, people will want to stop playing, that's a natural outcome.
I know that a lot of players wanted to try out ccRO, and just as that was dying down, doddler's server lined up perfectly after. It's just a coincidence that worked against ragna/v/. I'm expecting the numbers to go up again, specially after doddler's server ends. Hence why I'm postponing any evaluation until after that happens.
>>534811871>Sorry, it's not my goal to twist your arm into playing my server.sure feels like it, i jumped over to ccro to see what the fuss was about and to hang out with some friends but now its sounding like I have to pick between that or making sure the year i spent here isn't just getting deleted
>>534812094he's gonna make /v/4 in a year its not the end of the world for lord's sake
>>534812094the sooner you admit that it's not fun to play on a dead server, the sooner we can get on /v/4. everyone moved on, now it's your turn.
>>534812357I wish he'd wait longer and use the doddler client
>>534812357There's literally no other option to play for that year, diddler is gonna wipe and disappear after this beta and sissy is already dead after everyone finished this season, also the sissy guys said they don't know if there'll be another season after this one because they're thinking about retiring
oh my fuck you creatures are so goddamn pathetic. you play RO and change servers once every three months and now suddenly you care about your time investment into a server?
>>534813318You forgot trip but I agree
>>534812094>told that you can play the game for as long as you want, you just have to play>plays the game>then stops playing the game>game stolen"How could this have happened to me?"
Memes and jokes aside, you have plenty of time to finish your card album on ccRO. You're not the only one playing, there will be players waiting for you on ragna/v/ once you're done.
>>534812510Doddler's client looks very robust but he's nowhere near having a complete, deployable product. He'll take the next year fixing the countless issues that are being reported to him every day and improving stability. He was completely blindsided by how popular this test was going to be, it's quite miraculous that the server has been going for days since release with minimal downtime. At least from what I've been told.
And then, he needs to make second jobs, guilds, woe, quests, skills, pet system, merc system, homunculi, and more. Hopefully, after this test, he'll get more people to help him. But I do not expect to have serious private servers using doddler's package until 2030.
>>534813318There's something comforting from knowing there's always a server you can go back to. It's like having your old highschool sweetheart you married when you were young crying, her homemade meal cold, as she waits for you at home despite you cheating on her all the time and spending half your paycheck at the whorehouse. And when you get tired of paying you can just walk home with lipstick on your neck and smelling of another woman, with your friends Johnny and Jose at your side, break your door down and marital rape her while she quietly whines and whimpers with her face on the pillow.
Please don't leave me Ragna/v/3 I can change I swear.
>>534813827what did you think the 3 stood for don't lie
>>534811871I'm not going anywhere before Morroc is dead for good.
Jesus christ
>>534813696>there will be players waiting for you on ragna/v/ once you're done.Not by the sounds of it with you closing it because me and a few friends took a break. Maybe if you actually fixed the dogshit updates I told you about that served no purpose but to lock in max level players with infinite grind and actually helped out the mid-level grind where every fucking new person I tried to get into the game quit we wouldn't be in this situation
>>534812857>also the sissy guys said they don't know if there'll be another season after this one because they're thinking about retiringI've said multiple times i'm taking a break and each one has been after a pants on head retarded update by ragnadev, this one WAS no different but it's impressive to see how much an effect this has had on him. Also stop making up bullshit you retard
>>534813903It's just the times she's gone back to her mother's house, but they have such a terrible relationship she always come back crawling to me, beaten and battered but always hoping for things to get better because she knows that despite everything she's all you have and you're all she has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRVgvrSCbHc
>>534814283>me and a few friends took a breakwhy'd you take a break? dev gave clear conditions to keeping the server up. seems like your predicament is self-inflicted :(
>the mid-level grind where every fucking new person I tried to get into the game quitplease describe what your ideal grind curve is. if someone cant handle the mid level grind how are they going to handle high level?
>you WILL play my server, or else
did you really thought ragna v3 is gonna last forever? the only thing that's gonna last are screenshots on your drive until it shits itself and dev's ignorance on topic of specific changes being net negative overall such as renewal de facto, sp buffs killing dancers and alchemist being shit
learn to let things go, and
Thank you for playing my game.
claim you're waifus for /v/4
>>534815424>if someone cant handle the mid level grind how are they going to handle high level?There is no high level grind, you hit 84 and you get free leech on everything.
As soon as you rebirth you're on your own solo with no content and no gear with nothing of value to work towards.
>>534815893Meru as a concubine
>>534806707God, NTR'ing such a cutie felt so good.
just start calling out names and ask them why they stopped playing
>>534806841This, but with ro instead.
>>53481743895% of people left after they had their fun, anything else is fake drama
16 former ragnav3 players on ccro doing ifrit right this minute
>>534817438the erptranny clique forced me to quit
>>534815893claiming ro before chelle does
>>534791241>>534806407you might be onto something here
i'll have to go back to previous threads but it all lines up
>quits because of einbroch patch>starts ccro guild>suddenly everybody is in that guild
>>534789281>>534790554>>534792038>>534808480>>534810158>>534811871>>534813696Ok Dev, let's have a serious talk. Why do you want to close the server? Is it because you can no longer afford to pay for hosting or is it because it's too much of a hassle to keep it running?
If it's the latter, why not take a long break? If you're feeling stressed then you cannot make good decisions. Yes, pulling the plug will give you a short term relief, but in the long run you stand to lose more, you still have a loyal fanbase and new players.
Right now ragna/v3/ is in a very good position, ccRO is almost done for, myRO has completely disappeared from /rog/ and no other server offers the great QoL changes and customizations your server has.
In other words, you're still winning!
So pulling the trigger and ending it all doesnt make much sense, specially because this is your most successful server so far. Ending it all at this stage would only destroy the goodwill and good faith your loyal fanbased has put towards you.
So my suggestion is: If you're tired of all this shit, take a break, leave the server as it is, let people have their share of fun, and think things through. Do NOT make a bad decision now.
>>534821429weak bait, ur losing ur touch g**n
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>>534822528because we're on ccro
>>534821429I don't WANT to close the server. I'm just saying that something fundamentally changed. That is, up until now, every time I checked, there would be people playing. But recently, during a few of my patrols, I found only AFK players and nobody moving. Something that I hadn't spotted up until now. At all. This week was the first time I couldn't find a single player moving during a couple of my regular checks.
Having that happen during dead hours is no big deal, I know people are still doing stuff during the day. But you guys deserve to know that I'm starting to spot gaps where nobody is active. I'm giving you disclosure.
If and when we get to a point where I start spotting those 'no active players' gaps during busy day hours, on sequential days, then that will be a clear sign that the time has come. Until then, the server goes on.
And of course, we're undergoing an atypical period, so I'm not making deep judgements over this change.
I didn't mean today's posts to be a warning that said THE END IS NIGH, I'm simply stating something that happened during my checks. Sorry if that gave you anxiety.
>>534818904let it go there's no point keeping /v/3 up when there's other servers/games around. there need to be a long grace period before /v/4. players crying about losing virtual gear are holding unto meaningless addiction
>>534822446he just used one of my meme image for his reply
>>534823230t. person who doesn't play and has nothing to lose
>>534823027hi dev im really playing ccro right now and having fun, idk if ill play next season but I do plan on coming back eventually i think
it would be nice if you do a reset though and maybe buff sunos
>>534823230>when there's other servers/games aroundthere literally isn't
>>534823027Last night I found no one around for like 10 minutes, it was weird! But it was just that
>>534822528I am!
>>534823337>it would be nice if you do a reset though and maybe buff sunos>lol>lolbetter but still not your best bait
>>534823027DEV SEE
>>534823337WE NEED MORE BUFFS MAKE AN ANNIVERSARY PATCH AND BUFF SHIT CLASSES LIKE SUNOS BLACKSMITHS ALCHEMISTS GUNSLINGERS AND SHIT EQUIPMENT NOBODY USES ALSO MORE LOWER HEADGEARS WHO CARES IF IT WAS CASH SHOP AT SOME POINT IF ITS BALANCED
>>534823294I still have /v/3 installed and got my character page filled. I just care more about seeing more players than whatever +7-9 gears you over farmed for weeks.
>>534823338I guess that's true for good servers but theres plenty of other good games to play in the meantime.
>>534823337I'll be glad to have you around once more.
>>534823465Maybe I ran into an abnormality and it won't happen again. Hopefully that's what it is.
>>534823337>buff sunosyes please
>>534823749>I just care more about seeing more players than whatever +7-9 gears you over farmed for weeks.Yeah the same people that quit 1 month into the game a year ago, and will quit in one month after /v/4 launches too.
Just give up and label ragnav as seasonal and stop pretending you're going to be hosting a long term server, since that's all you want.
>>534823337>>534823576>>534823904Everyone's been asking for more buffs for literal months and niggerdev never listened to any of you, why do you think he'll listen to you now if he didn't listen to blacksmith buffs anon spamming for weeks? He just doesn't care if those classes are unplayable
>>534814283>muh mid level grind is too hardstrongest sissyro player
>>534824047Blacksmith did get buffs after that
50% cart weight boost (so 50% more dmg with CT / cart revo)
More levels in skin tempering
And 30 flee.
>>534824215>Was it what blacksmith anon was asking for?No
>Did it fix the problems the blacksmith community was talking about?No
>Did any of the blacksmith anons keep playing after that?No
It was shit and only Grapefruit remotely benefited from it
>>534824215no one fucking needed fucking "let me solo this MVP" buffs, those blacksmiths were asking for party skill buffs to be less aids and more meaningful to use you fucking tripless favela level -100 damage control monkey
>>534823027>That is, up until now, every time I checked, there would be people playing. But recently, during a few of my patrols, I found only AFK players and nobody moving.You may interpret this as a bad sign, but if there are still people who even bother to login, I'd say it's pretty clear you still have core players.
The reason most people sit in inactivity is because they're fully geared and dont hunt anymore. Instead, they either wait for something to happen or to help other players.
The reason you havent noticed this before is because your server has grown and matured, reaching a new stage of life.
>>534823937/v/3 reached its peak 3-4 months in. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>534824215>>534824395>>534824548Also they were asking for a ranged option and a skill to do damage that didn't rape their bank account like CT does, both were things fixed and balanced in renewal and would've been trivial to port but niggerdev dismissed it without even talking to them
peak was in oct-nov, by the time december came around the server was already half dead
>>534824916dev will never admit that pvp event with 2h voting was a mistake
>>534824643I think if there was some actualy publicity for v3, people would keep joining consistently. I know it's supposed to be 'from vtards for vtards', but I'm pretty sure the majority of players joined during the time there were ads on /v/.
>reposting until implemented
BLACKSMITH BUFFS PROPOSAL PART 1
Since blacksmiths are still shit after 2 months and niggerdev has barely done anything to help them I made this proposal to at least start the discussion. The following changes most probably retarded but I tried to take a FUN (tm) approach while trying to buff them to a knight level (imposible lmao) without actually touching production skills because I've never used them and would rather have someone who actually knows what they're talking about write a proposal about them.
>Weapon Perfection/Overthrust/Adrenaline Rush
They're fine, but consider giving them a longer duration for QoL (around 5 minutes sounds fine) since they usually run out mid fight when doing high level PvM if you don't actively spam them (much to your party's annoyance) before and after every single encounter.
>Adrenaline rush/full adrenaline rush
Consider giving it endure effect for the duration, maybe even make it partywide to make it a bit more worthwhile bringing a blacksmith into parties because most of the time they'll sit behind everyone and maybe offtank a stray mob or two while the knight/crusa and ranged dps actually do the real work (and lorewise I like the idea of having a ridicuously adrenalinic blacksmith making everyone neurotic so they don't care about being hit).
>Weaponry Research
It's a pretty okay skill, but 10 levels is A LOT on an already points starved class and you're forced to take at least a few levels if you want any of the good buffs, should consider taking it down to 5 levels max like other similar passive skills.
>Skin Tempering
While well meaning the changes to this skill aren't actually a buff because why would anyone waste 5 skill points you don't even have to get a little more resists, it should've stayed as 5 levels max with added functionality or better yet, you could port down Fire/Earth Research from renewal for an actual buff, just have it require Skin Tempering 5 to unlock and you're done.
>>534825206BLACKSMITH BUFFS PROPOSAL PART 2
>MeltdownA pretty good skill for the nonexistant PvP, doesn't do nearly as much for PvM. Should consider taking it down to max level 5 and then MAYBE someone may invest it, also consider extending the buff time like with Weapon Perfection/Overthrust/Adrenaline Rush because 90 seconds is just shit.
>Cart BoostIt's great I love it best QoL skill in the game please consider letting blacksmiths use it so we have less 18-40 male suicides.
>Cart TerminationIt's perfectly fine and the zeny costs are justified by the insane DPS it brings since it's ASPD dependant you can just spam it 20 times a second for a shitfuckton of damage (until you run out of cash and get raped).
Considering the prior skills I also propose downporting the following
>Axe BoomerangBlacksmiths tend to just stand around when party MvPing because going in would be retarded and most of the time the party doesn't need an offtank when either Hwiz kills and freezes the MvP adds, the party kills the extra adds and just tanks the others, or the place is cleaned before engaging the MvP so nothing happens for the duration. With Axe Boomerang blacksmiths would finally have a way to do SOME damage in those kind of party situations where people would've rather taken an actually good class instead (always)
>Power SwingA much shittier version of Cart Termination, it doesn't use zeny but has a fixed cast time and delay so the DPS is A LOT worse, could help when solo grinding shit mobs or in places that aren't densely packed, elsewhere it'll always come back to Cart Termination for any kind of real gaming (tm). (PLEASE DOWNPORT THIS I NEED TO STOP LOSING CASH WHEN PARTYING IM GOING INSANE)
>Magma eruptionIt would be funny haha
>SUGGESTIONS RECEIVED IN GAME FROM OTHER BLACKSMITHS>Maximum Over ThrustExtend the duration of the buff because 90 seconds is ridiculous when sinx get 30 minutes EDP, is better and a lot cheaper to use
>>534823576>Bad classes>Gunslingers>>534815542>SP Buffs killing Dancer and AlcheYes, combined with Soul Linker getting the SP healing tree.
>Alche being badAlchemists isn't bad per se, but what they needed was to be less boring, self-sufficient and have less of a money sink loop (not a buff, it was something they already could do before dev removed their homunculus).
They need homunculus and fixing the plants to be less annoying to yourself / unkillable so they can be used in party. After playing CCRo I realized that OC / DC really makes a huge difference into the gameplay loop of buying potions for active use, but that can be helped by giving them multi-potion crafting results, which they do for bombs but not for pots for some reason.
If the class would've get nerfed as a compensation it doesn't matter, because at least they'll be fun.
There's a reason all the Alchemists quit and the only one left plays in a bubble.
>>534825045>PublicityThe local schizo made a sure job to ruin any try at publicity, anyone who looked at the thread would've seen the schizo's rambling and walked away from even trying the server. It happened on /v/ threads too.
>>534825045We did have people joining constantly, but they all quit before actually making it to max level because every piece of new content was aimed at the lv99 max geared players to enjoy and you had to sit back and eat shit until they were done.
>uh go make a priest we're short on priests :)>no i wont party with you, just grind until 90 then you can come
>>534824758Dev did talk to me and did make changes to Mammo cost, because on launch it was completely untenable with the loss of OC/DC. You would literally lose zeny killing hill winds before the 1st change.
That being said I did eventually quit before any of the other buffs because I didn't feel like farming Mavka for 2 hours every time I wanted to be useful in a party.
Also not trying to shit on Ragnadev, but my 2c on the later buffs were that Whitesmith really didn't need a power increase (Tomahawk Throw was nice though, I suppose). Whitesmith has always been pretty decent as long as you had zeny to throw at stuff. The issue was the economy of it. Without OC/DC or substantial changes to Mammo/CT cost, the class just isn't worth playing.
Burning 2-3mil zeny in a party when I can make it back in 30 minutes on a normal server isn't a big deal. That 30 minutes increasing to 1~2 hours because no OC/DC makes it 100x more obnoxious to play a job that's already annoying to play for other reasons. I'd be spending more time farming to party than partying, and that tipped the scales for me.
Making the job that's already generally unfun to play even more unfun to play was not the way to handle it, though I get dev's frustration with OC/DC. I just don't know why he didn't see the need to adjust mammo/CT costs with it in a substantial way.
>>534815542>sp rege killed dancer roleonly if you are a shit player who doesnt know how sp consuming are high-end battles, nor how to exploit dancer. For real that is the dumbest complaint ever considering it comes from old fucks who supposedly know how to play this game
>>534825668>I just don't know why he didn't see the need to adjust mammo/CT costs with it in a substantial way.if you noticed that both alchemist and blacksmith are ass to play you'd figure out that dev is antisemitic and everything would instantly make sense
or that he doesn't play his own GAME, maybe
>>534825742>muh solo self jerk infinite magni is better than your solo self jerk +15%*3 sp regen passive cards!!!!!!oink harder gunslut
>>534825742How do you even run out of SP when you have 4x SP regen with Magnificat and the dumb soul linker tree healing for 200 sp each second?
>New world updates are extremely unfun grindy bullshit
>people quit
>Odin update is extermely unfun grindy bullshit
>dev nerfs gains there
>people quit
>Einbech is extremely unfun grindy bullshit
>Was about to be worse but the entirety of #Global dogpiled his ass so he nerfed it gently
>people quit
the only thing he didn't fuck up spectacularly was Abyss4 and he still had to nerf how unfun and grindy those armors were.
>this is the player's fault for not playing!
>>534826468>Abyss4he nerfed treasure mimic steals because witchhunter was generating money there (IT WAS STILL SHIT COMPARED TO MAVKAS XDDD)
>>534826468He nerfed Abyss too.
>>534826183>incoherent rambling>>534826318>strawmanYou niggers would complain about anything
>>534823576>GUNSLINGERSmonk is shit, buff asura
>>534826883>no examples of gameplay loops where 2x sp regen and soul linker tree on top buffs are justifiedretard
>>534826468You forgot
>>534826883We're talking about SP regen killing dancers, you pointed out SP cost on high-end, which means in parties, party means Magnificat from priest and almost always a soul linker too, how is it a strawman?
If niggerdev doesn't listen to everyone and buffs everything I'm not coming back
have u noticed dev's absence when his target audie- i mean FORMER target audience started pointing out v3 flaws
/v/4 will revitalize the playerbase and no amount of coping posts from the remnants is gonna change this fact. You cant even get a full twelve man party on /v/3 anymore. Even dodo quitted and its time to get a clue for a better future
>>534827060speaking as a regular prof SPslut, the only people who ever complained about SP were goonslingers and Cube because he always tanked with kaahi
>>534826468>>534827142Derp, was going to say, you forgot the part where Einbroch 3 accessories are hidden behind a boss that spams EQ as a 0.5% drop too.
Which leads into, Dev really loving to put items behind bosses at 1% which is a very soul crushing grind when bosses get camped by other players.
at its peak there were 150 users online consistently, and most of them were actively engaged with the community in one way or another, it was...PEAK SOVL
I am your king now britons
>>534827359>goonslingers>gigagoonbuffed because he watched cowboy bebop while figuring out v3 (same with ninja and naruto) and one cute little 3821sp skill is spammable under bragi, therefore needs sp song, dumb tree and 4x sp regen (custom change)>Cube>99 hard def is a thing only because of dev's renewal downports (custom change)im noticing
>>534827685It was peak soul and I'm sure if things align it will happen again. This whole "let the server alive so we have a safety net" after playing elsewhere is just abusive imo
I guess if dev is shutting down then i'll be removing v3 from the OP.
>>534828470If you started taking out dead servers from the OP there would simply be no servers in the OP
>>534828470If it happens yes that's how it work. Only
>POOOOCHIE MONDAYYYYYare retarded enough to keep running a thread of a dead server kek
>>534829273Holy fuck what ESL babble is this? Someone translate
>>534829595That's Ro off medication.
What's the best dagger for neutral demi human? gladius[3] or some other fancy MVP drop dagger?
>>534829667>whats the best ... dagger ...Scalpel
>forScalpel
>>534829667Scalpel if carded and combat knife if uncarded, also ice pick depending on the mob
>>534829823Forgot to mention, I'm playing ninja, can't equip scalpel
>>534830078You can if its CCRO
>>534829595Pochie monday is a catchphrase spammed by a retard in the Epoch threads. The server absolutely failed to launch and even one of the dev has quit yet the nerds over there just don't want to give up on it.
>>534830231>wowfugees continue to be a plague on MMO gaming as a whole even decades latergrim
>>534830348I think he lost hope rather early and went somewhere else (good for him)
>>534827685only thanks to dodo and gbu's efforts
>>534830557gbu was not well known at the time
>>534830685but he saved ragnav
>>534830784>enforced a strict meta that ruined the reputation of several classes because he doesn't know how to play otherwise
>>534830114oh fuck me, I wasted time farming gladius
>>534830557stop trying to pretend they were the reason people played, there were more players running stuff and many groups of friends (some still there)
>>534831556I'm sorry, I just miss them.
>>534815893Xan (Forma de Megu)
claim you're hazubandus for /v/4
>>534834206GOD OF ULTRAVIOLENCE if he still alive
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what class benefits the most from this? throw shuriken can't hit ghost type apparently (not sure if it's the same in ccro) and I'm not even sure what can you use this for other than thanatos.
>>534834774>what class benefits the most from this?Ninja
>throw shuriken can't hit ghost type apparentlyThey can with that dagger
>>534834858throw shuriken inflicts neutral damage isn't it.
>>534834958no, it takes your weapon element
I'm a recovering Ragnarok Online addict, but seeing a video of the Okolnir event on Doddler's test server put me into withdrawal again.
I hope somebody makes a server with that architecture, that looks like some wild technology.
>>534836337Just go play the doddler server its still up
>>534836390it's only got a few more days left in it. It's just a test server, after all.
I'm anticipating something more permanent.
>>534789281>>534811871>>534813696Dev i'm gonna be real with you (not that you've ever listened to me about the state of the server)
Telling everyone that you're considering shutting down the server out of nowhere is not going to bring people back, why would we invest any more time in your server if you're going to be this sensitive about it? New players aren't going to join now, they know the server is ending. Old players aren't coming back, because why bother when the server is ending.
>I'm giving away free stuff!!!!Okay? So we can just lose it in a couple weeks suddenly.
You've already signed the death warrant with these posts. You may as well just close it down now or shut the fuck up.
>>534730134they're 100% right
>>534839556>Telling everyone that you're considering shutting down the server out of nowhereHe's been consistent about his criterias the whole time wtf are you on about
>>534839556Old players weren't coming back anyway, aside from a very specific few of no more than 3 or 4.
>>534779851no because this server is also janky, laggy, ancient online tech (unity)
>>534839556dev didnt knew that he's gonna lose not to one, but two teams of real devs doing real dev things, poor fomo campaign is the result of his tantrum
>>534823027I personally will be coming back to ragna/v/ once I'm finished with ccro, which I started late on. I'm at about 350 cards in and I've reached the meme build potential for the classes that I decided to play, so I think I have maybe a week left in me. It's been fun playing a different server though, especially one with so many custom changes. Things are going to feel weird gameplay wise going back, but I think the QoL and class changes from v3 are ultimately better that cc's.
That being said, it might be a good time to morph the server into something different. Most of the old players have basically everything already, and drip feeding content can only keep people playing for so long. It may be healthy for the server to enter a "testing ground" phase, where we (both you the dev and us the players) test out class and mechanic changes that will then lay the groundwork for the eventual v4. To make it easy, you can definitely pilfer some ideas from cc. I experienced many things that, with a bit of tweaking, could suit a server like v3/4 perfectly well. Mainly we just need new stuff to do. Even if it's for the same content, trying new builds and new mechanics can inject the flavor back into an otherwise stale experience.
tldr: We're bored so let's turn v3 into a test server.
>>534843696>I personally will be coming back to ragna/v/ once I'm finished with ccroI said this too initially but after seeing dev whine this hard about it and threaten to close the server i'm not so sure anymore
>they keep falling for ragnadev's wild ride
You only have yourself to blame, chief.
>>534843696>but I think the QoL and class changes from v3 are ultimately better that cc's.id rather take ccro's changes of allowing more various jobs to be viable both solo and in parties meanwhile not changing gameplay loop too much (if anything. ccro is pre-renewal larping as pre-trans) than ragna's 3 years grind of crit sin gearing to kill downported keknibble recolored porings meanwhile everyone else are watching you doing it in cuck chair(s) because their jobs suck major balls
same with self buff toggles
>>534845818Self buff toggles are the only thing I actually like. Also 1h quicken.
It's Ifrit time GET IN HERE
>>534847390>playing a server that's shutting down
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>>534845818>I need to be super saijan to enjoy the gameWhy not play renewal with the normies and hues? You complain about not playing a class that especializes on dps as if that's a point, when you can either play it or just not give a fuck because other classes are viable for their respective roles if you are not retarded. And in case your salt it's all about not being the biggest numbers guy, then I have bad news for you, but when it's nor sinx, it's sniper, or whatever else depending on server flavor/situation, you are like a dog barking for no reason.
>>534848570ccro handled some class balance features well, like giving thief the chance to chain steal, which gives rogue a chance to shine because gank suddenly becomes more feasible than spamming the steal skill manually on a sin. Some classes like blacksmith find it hard to contribute in parties besides pressing the party wide buffs, which don't even do much. There's plenty of room for improving classes outside of "make number bigger", they just take more though power than it takes to shitpost on a Laotian wood whittling website.
>>534709263What's the benefit of doing the job change quest when there's a job change npc?
How viable would it be to make a Wizard as my first and only character on CCRO?
>>534853594Not bad honestly, the current season shits out a ton of free dex gear.
>>534853774You mean the gear enchantments? Do the enchantments change from season to season? Also how big of a deal would the Wizard costume be, specifically the reducing base cast time and after cast delay by 0.2 seconds?
>>534854367The gear enchants are a thing specifically for this season so don't get used to it.
>costumeidk the only thing of value there imo is ganbantein but other than that I can't care much.
>>534849762imo Blacksmith can be a decently good Tank DPS hybrid, kind of like Taekwon Ranker / TKM, that's where their spot should be.
>>534854367This is the only season with enchantments afaik, next season may not have them and will have something else entirely.
>Wizard costume's cast delay and acdNot very important, you can get 100% cast time or 75% cast delay reduction through cards + enchantments already, if anything this is the perfect season to play Wizard costume-less.
>>534789281>Thanks for playing my gameniggerdev at his best
>>534854678Problem is nobody would realistically pick BS over a proper tank even with the neutral and fire damage res
>>534855747I would, but can't fit more classes into the main guild.
>>534823854dev do not pull the plug, i still haven't tested my gtb yet
>>534854367Next season they will be gone, but last season had permanent food buffs, so we can expect that every season now will have some sort of player buffs.
Insta-cast solo wiz is pretty much free honestly, much more for priests.
>>534855747>realisticallyThey do get picked if said WS knows what they are doing and are prepared. Let's not pretend that the game is gentle with WS class, Im not surprised that most players who main it grow disillusioned of their party potential, but WS tank IS a very viable option that's even desired over other ones for stuff like bee
>>534834774>>534834858>>534834958>>534835080As of the latest rAthena update, Throw Shuriken is pseudo-elemental. Which means it deals extra damage based on element but will miss entirely against ghost, no matter the weapon or kunai element. On Ragna/v/ 3, I've undone this change and not it works as expected.
>>534863090>On Ragna/v/ 3We're talking about a server that will still exist in another 2 weeks
>>534863667Why will it stop existing?
>>534863776Dev throwing a cryfest that people wanted to try out some new fotms that all simultaneously released around the same time including other MMOs entirely launching patches/new servers.
>>534858994What sort of gear should I go for, other than stuff with dex enchants?
>he thinks ccro will last another week
never forget the one behind it all
>>534864129I didn't see ccro announcing they were closing because he was sad at the current playercount.
>>534864287Where did I mention ragnav, on the other hand that's the way ccro servers work.
I am the mastermind of **
>>534863949That's all of it, things with +2dex
I guess the more time consuming things to farm would be apple of archer, and a silk robe with +2dex and rolling the +dex again on the regular enchant.
Skull rings are a solid farm if you don't want to go farming Gloves(1).
This is all if you are going insta-cast solo, if you are going to play with a priest, you need much less stuff
>>534864601This is why you shouldn't ****
>>534864129>>534864385I just started playing on CCRO a few days ago and I'm having fun. Can someone clue me in on this, is there a risk of the server shutting down?
>>534865981it has 7 weeks left in the season, though you might see some burn out as people hit max cards
>>534865981Those post were me btw, no it' not going to shut down, ccro servers are like POE seasons, they last a couple months then they abrubtly die, but I was pretty much joking with a hiperbole, ccro should have at least 2 more months imo
>>534865981He's shitposting at the reset centric nature of seasonal, which is timed and designed around unlike ragnav which is going to shut down for good because the dev is a retard
>>534866108How do you even get all the MVP cards? Are they shared to party members?
>>534865981ccro is online for like 6 years already, and it's not only stable but getting more players every season, it's not going to shutdown anytime soon.
>>534866550Repeated cards go directly to party members if they are on the same map
since it's shutting down, name ONE thing you are most proud of accomplishing on /v/3.
>>534866841Good on them but none of us are doing this again
>>534867260Speak for yourself, this is my 3rd season and i don't plan on stopping it
>>534867201Stealing a Krishna and a triple digit number of EDP off of Eremes
>>534867201Showing my friends other servers that can be fun.
>>534867260I might, depends on how much I'm feeling up to keep playing RO (and how much free time I will have next season).
Will also depend on what class costumes I get, some are not very appealing, but got some hopes for the 2nd set of them to be something more fun.
>>534867201Being very closely associated / recognized for the class I play, it was a very nice feeling.
And getting Maya card, even though it never got used, because I love both the art and the monster itself.
>>534868719>Will also depend on what class costumes I getIf you get all the cards you can choose 1 costume
>>534868818Can choose one yeah, but you get 2, can still depend on what's the other costume.
Could choose one and end up not liking it enough to feel like playing the season with it, so the other costume is also important.
Am I going to be able to make friends and watch movies or anime together with someone if I download ccRO? I am a very light player and only played to lvl 50/40 or something in the past. Im extremely lonely after breaking up with my ex 4 months ago and I have no friends
>>534869964you really shouldn't be in any mmo generals, you're going to get groomed.
>>534869964You sound like you just came straight out of FFXIV, go back.
>>534869964if you want RP you should join the soon-to be defunct ragna/v/ server.
/v/3 was always going to be a for fun clown server. no woe, pvp, bg, and mvp competition. what were you all doing aside from erp?
>>534870048im a guy, not a woman. I don't think I can get groomed. I just have no friends and I don't know where to get some now.
>>534870128im not from any generals, I am just desperate so I have shown up to this thread randomly out of them all since t he words ragnarok online stood out
>>534870193I don't really RP or I don't think I can roleplay the world atm since I don't remember much.
anyways thank u guys
>>534870706>im not from any generals, I am just desperateTheres plenty of fine gentlemen playing catgirls here
>>534861961 who will be happy to groom your retarded ass then
>>534870706>im a guy, not a woman. I don't think I can get groomed.no, grooming guys into "women" is exactly what mmo generals do
>>534870813>>534870875im a 32 yr old man that was in a relationship with a woman I was going to marry and broke up with 4 months ago, after telling her to leave. I don't think I am what you imagine, but I can tell this place is hostile. Its whatever then.
>>534871034>im a 32 yr old man that was in a relationship with a woman I was going to marry and broke up with 4 months agoyep, /xivg/ is perfect for you to go get groomed just go tell them your sob story and you'll have 5 big tittied lizard/catgirls giving you instructions on how to install
>>534871163LMAO
how can i profit from this?
>>534871034Sure you are anon, and last week we had the ghost of the queen of england to play with us.
Anyways, the place for pity farming is on reddit 2 blocks down.
>>534856185Ask the one playing? He likes playing BS as it is and im sure would be up to doing it
>>534871034If you're truly serious about your situation I highly suggest for you to work on yourself IRL and stay away from video game, internet and its socials. This is just a form of coping that will only net you a negative impact. You don't like this answer but you know deep down that its true. Don't go on a no return coping cruise.
Wish you well
>>534864601>goon needing to be the center of attention all the time
Of course, after 250 needed kills for my Alicel card, the map becomes MOTD.
:grrrr:
attention MORONS still on /v/3. if i catch you afking im SHUTTING DOWN THE SERVER. thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>534789281>people are on the test serverno. we've been on ccro for weeks and a lot of us will be back to ragnav when the season ends
>>534871034>but I can tell this place is hostileyou have no idea what kind of disgusting degenerates you are dealing with. im not even talking about the upfront asshole. that guy is harmless.
>>534874109This is a very silk coded post, why?
Because silk hates not being the centre of attention
>>534864248>silk needing to be the center of attention all the time
Silk is a furfag troon groomer, that loves to "rape" people on xiv
Attention all female characters. You will be taken against your will in order to keep playing
>>534789281since we're being honest, i botted mavkas and made 4m/h while sleeping. you should work on that for /v/4.
>>534878014its ok I was using duel client when marrying my characters at events myself too
Any tips on playing Rogue on CCRO? I'm level 67. I'm about to do the Crow of Destiny quest which should get me to level 72 or so but I don't know what to do past that, Rogue has always been a pretty shitty class to level. I have a double sidewinder mummy scalpel with the no size reduction enchantment, which I think is very good, but I'm still going to run into the wall of enemies outscaling my class. How much hit should I be going for?
>>534878573Depending on your cards you should have a bonus 20-30 hit for free, so you shouldn't have to worry much about that, plus crit stacking with double attack if you have evil snake lord card
>>534878573dunno i leveled my rogue entirely from lvl 11 to 99 in moskovia
/v3/ AWARDS TIME! eos edition
>Prettiest player
>Ugliest player
>Most knowledgeable player
>Cutest player
>Funniest player
>Most skilled player
>Greediest player
>Sexiest player
>Most hated player
>Smartest player
>Most dramatic player
>Dumbest player
>Most helpful player
>Coolest player
>Richest player
>Most hardworking player
>Laziest player
>>534879704you won't have friends on /v/4 either
Hope Gredex is choking on 60 cocks in hell
Don't show up in /v/4
https://youtu.be/oKl0ypoKN0U?si=1GlzJ2cVJjPKHD2Q
impressive
>>534856185>I would, but can't fit more alts into the main guild.ftfy
>>534879704all dodo, unironically.
>>534881296Nobody is gonna make a BS at this point and there's no real reason to. The one we have we drag along as it is
>>534879704Neptune in all categories.
Ragna/v/3 died in January. Been a long weekend, Bernie. Get some rest now....
>>534879874Yo dont know what that means
>>534856185>meanwhile there are multiple alts of the same people in the guild
>>534881475I wouldn't say drag, the buffs are great and its nice to take anybody anywhere
>>534880897>actual boss fight mechanics cant wait for this to be finished
>>534883214ro would be better with some primitive bullet hell and floor AoE from boss instead of one shot-ing anything that isn't a fully geared tank
BIG LETTERS TO INFORM YOU THAT WE ARE STARTING TO FORM FOR IFRIT
GET ON NOW
>>534885462fuck, on the way
>>534885462no you're not, you're just gonna clique everyone once you're full like always
faggot
>>534885462Not helping you get your last card fuck off.
>>534885764did someone get clicked before?
>>534885827yes you are!
How is ccRO? Need something to play once Doddler's thing runs out. I used to play Payon Stories, but it was a little too slow for my taste.
>>534885991Faster, more gimmicky, weirdly engaging with the card mechanic
>>534789281what did you learn from /v/3? how will you change things in /v/4?
>>534848570>you are playing pre-renewal larping as pre-trans, so why you dont wanna play renewal???i fucking wonder
>>534852960functional erection
What if I launch my own server but make like zero changes because I don't know how to anyway?
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he's so cool....
>>534891230that's percival, and no, he's not at all.
>>534891329he is. shut the fuck up
>>534891428Stop selfposting faggot
>>534891230INFERN INFERN INFERN INFERN INFERN INFERNOO DIVIDAH
>>534880897Man i'm pretty excited about new pservers using the doddler framework
The core of it should be almost done right?
>>534891329anon look at that name, the only way he could be cooler is if CCRO allows symbol so he can add ~XxX~ in the beginning of his name.
I am so tired of RO being so range-centric that everything melee is actual garbage and everything that attacks at a distance is the Chosen One and can do literally anything in the game while melees just eat shit without spamming a billion zeny worth of potions with fully-maximized RNG gear and every single 0.01% rare drop in the game
Fuck Gravity, Fuck RO, this game can't be saved, I am fucking done
ifrit 10/12
it's happening
>>534891230>blazbluethe new coke of arcsys
>>534891978you had 20 years to realize this
>>534880897Ragnarok 3 if it was good, damn.
>>534892763new coke anon, when coca cola changed the recipe and it was shit so they brought back coca cola classic.
>>534892889i bet you play a hunter you game-dodging pussy
fuck you faggot
>>534893469you don't hate hunter enough
So I'm playing a rogue on CCRO like I mentioned earlier in the thread, and I've been reflecting on my decision to play this class. I am having a hard time understanding how I could possibly get a lot of the late game cards, since the class is so weak in pve. Sure I can outflee many enemies with the right gear, but my single target damage will be at best passable, and every map will mob me. I feel like I can probably get at best 182 aspd or so. With the high defense of most late game monsters, I'll just be hitting double attacks for 500 or something even with elemental converters. I feel like most MVPs will just be impossible. At this point I feel like playing a knight might be a better choice.
>>534894628my rogue does huge double/triple attacks and has 188aspd
>>534894028you're goddamn right i don't. in order to hate hunter enough i need to gather all the ranged classes and lock them all in one room together and then pump my rancid beerfarts and awful BO stench into the room
and that still wouldn't be hating them enough. putting them in auschwitz isn't hating them enough. printing the word "hate" on each nanoangstrom of the universe isn't hating them enough
>>534894813make a server with one of the hunter job quest npcs removed from the middle so they get locked in but can't complete it.
>>534894794Ok, that's good. Give me some tips. How did you get 160 agility or whatever would be required to get that aspd?
>>534894628It's simple just steal their cards ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
>>534894628Melee rogue isn't for killing mvps, is for farming money and normal mobs, flee classes get fucked by flee penalties on mvp's.
aspd cap isn't that hard to get (this season) either
And for high DEF targets you get a plat sword and go crit, with triple attack and tanee card you should be able to kill anything.
>>534895053Please tell me how to get 190 aspd without having 180 agility. This is with a berserk pot and +6% aspd added in manually.
>>534895384You really don't need much.
>>534895384>>534895847I'm in pront right now if you want to inspect the gear, it's nothing special
>>534895847>you don't really need much>posts a fully-kitted out, fully-runed character at Lv.99
>>534896017Apart from the linen glove/dagger of hunter, everything is literal garbage you farm from lvl 20 mobs anon, the linen is even there because i didn't had any other acc with slot in the bank.
And the dagger of hunter is also some trash i had to slot in because my main gauche was killing mavkas too fast for snatch.
>>534895847Alright I believe you but I still don't understand how that all adds up to 190 aspd or 348 flee.
>>534896478in what world do those lv.20 mobs give you the millions of z you spent on runes
>>534897343>Paper combo: 5% aspd + 5agi>Skull ring: 3% aspd>1 cecil damon: 7% aspd>Goblin mask: 4% aspdAnd all of the miscelaneous cards and +2 agi enchants on pieces
>>534897527The whole runeset cost me like 5m when i built it, it was funded entirely on selling the shit skull rings on the skelemans in payon i got while farming for the 3% one.
This is some bottom of the barrel gear, like there's no skin of ventus, no bison horn, not even an ulles.
Cecil runes are 4m a pop now lmao
>unlucky with cards all day
>spend 30 coins on MVPs without return
>want to level Lif
>someone is having a DB party
>see a monster ive never seen before going off screen
>what the fuck was that?
>go check
>its a big fucking scorpion called Iron Fist
>check if anybody is around
>kill it
>get card
>look it up
>its the 1 monster without natural spawn that i deemed impossible to get
I can literally never predict when a card drops. Literally every single time i think NOW ill get it, i wont see it for another 30 minutes and when i dont think a tiny bit about getting card it happens.
RO is the only game with a 100% accurate desire sensor.
Also i think some card said something about a DB room. How do i get there?
>>534898098>Also i think some card said something about a DB room. How do i get there?if they were using dead branches, you were already in it. npc southwest of pront center gets you in. firelock soldier card gives a bonus to drop rate in there.
there are also spawns of iron fist in endless tower
is there a reason boltsword users always run cold bolt bottom instead of fire bolt or something
>>534898403the chain only starts from cold bolt
>>534898441The chain starts from any bolt, but cold bolt gives you the most procs further down the line.
>>534898403>>534898441>>534898514How does being able to cast level 10 cold bolt affect your autocasts?
>>534898282How do i get to endless tower?
The DB party is at MOTD 2 south of morroc.
Which leads to my next question - when i DB on MOTD, do i get x2 drop for them?
>>534898727why would you autocast? manually casting is better in basically all scenarios
>>534898441>>534898514oh thats big, makes sense
>>534898990Oh I didn't know that the bolt chain could be started by actually casting the spell
>>534898727elemental sword procs actually just autocast cold bolt. the remaining spells all trigger off each other while the sword is equipped. the chain follows this specific order: cold bolt > fire bolt > lightning bolt > earth spike
if any one of them miss, the chain ends
so using cold bolt on water immune means you get nothing
you bypass this limitation by using firebolt when you have to, which will still trigger lightning bolt > earth spike for less but still respectable damage
water & fire immune? you're fucked unless you have lightning bolt, which will still trigger earth spike
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Leaderboard spot secured
>multiple /rog/ are going to be on the leaderboard
Feels pretty nice
>>534901045i'm not gonna make it cause my remaining minis won't drop shit
>>534901476I WILL come help you farm them.
>>534901521my most annoying ones currently are byorgue, salamander, and bow guardian and panda in thana
>>534901774Salas and Panda I can definitely tank
Byorgue... you might be on your own for, I only managed to get him by rushing him in dailyboss before he had a chance to spawn guardians.
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>>534891230 she's so cute...
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>>534902678I shouldnt crop when half-asleep
>>534902841wtf this is how she treats us after getting 443
>>534902678damn i have a cosplay competitor
>>534902841Seconding this
>decrease agi level 48
joke's on you garm, I have no agi to reduce and willingly lowered my own movement speed you idiot
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>>534789281hey idiot, you clearly have no idea how to balance the game. just give us stock settings for /v/4.
We playing on doddler RO yet?
>>534906746yes they speedran it and fucked off
>>534898081and even then you can be a lazy bum and just gank mavkas, 10m/h at 99 (75% steal reproc chance with joker card) with barebones setup, runes is piss easy to farm once u have rogue
>>534911583>10m/h5m/berserk potion is plausible, but the place need to be empty from other player. in reality your average will be around 5~6m/hour
>>534911765i was doing better when shit was hugging me instead of stuffing everything into gopinich cuck cave
feel free to not believe me but picrel is one berserk pot with 75% resteals
ghost bandana +2 STR (shit)
mask +5% ASPD
pantie +2 AGI
stiletto 2 sidewinders +5% ASPD for 100% double attack rate
buckler +2 DEX (shit)
undershirt +2 AGI
tidals +2 AGI (rose not really required and i didnt had thiefbug male which would give +2 AGI)
shinobi sashes +3% and +2% ASPD, can replace with +3% ASPD gold or skull rings
>>534911765>from other playerfailed reading comprehension here, point still stands and early EU hours are usually free of players one month into season + everyone are minmaxxing to farm geffenia instead of mavkas since ice picks aren't hard to get if you are in some sort of clique, be it pools or RiSE
>>534912664pool closed doesn't have a single(functional) def piercing weapon in its GS, especially ice pick.
>>534912801ofc people will hoard them even if they cant use it, ill move goalpost to "attend pts where ice picks are being dropped such as rsx, lotd, bio3 and rng gave u one"
>>534912801we have several ice picks, but people keep hoarding them like little gremlins
the rng rolls on gear have people acting retarded about "bad rolls" on objectively bis gear that doesn't have rolls normally
>>534912801There's like 10 ice picks in pool. A couple bought their own, some were in gs at one point but people pocketed them, others just kept them when they dropped because no loot distribution rules have been discussed. So for the most part, rng decides and if people don't need what they get, they hopefully give it away or put it into gs.
You can likely borrow one if you ask. Eremes is easy to deal with too and a 100% drop, so you can pay 100 coins to spawn him and get some help with the kill to get your own that way too.
what was the deleted post about
>>534913463"pools GS doesnt have DEF piercing weapons at all, especially ice picks" or something this petty idk
>>534913547I saw dragon killer with fire enchant
>>534914481pools closed has to be bad, ok?
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>>534914518these are the only earth dragons in the game.
>>534914787yes pools are bad finally
>>534915087Pools is the only reason im able to 443 this season
>>534906746https://youtu.be/oKl0ypoKN0U
i'm actually surprised that the guy is still active to this day! i always remember him as the IROwiki guy and i used to visit his site for 3rd jobs when it was just being teased at kRO
>>534881296>>534881967... Yes, that's exactly what my other post meant, obviously we have alts on the main guild so we can't fit more of them, any other alt is not going into the main guild anymore.
If everyone had just 1 char on the guild then it wouldn't even be at 30 out of 76 slots. duh.
>>534894628We have a melee rogue main at 440~ cards, most of which he just solo'd or was able to solo and only came to help, aside from obviously strong MvPs like Bee, Bio 3 or Ifrit which he would need help with.
I only have two characters in the main guild so it couldn't be my fault.
I interrupted my erp to show you this
...so you better be grateful
>players cosplaying Blazblue characters
absolutely based
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>>5349124387 minutes in geffenia on a taek without stealing anything
>>534911765mavkas are 13m/h, even with another person on the map, don't be stingy and spam that teleport hotkey,
>>534922218nice cast speed
>>534924962mmmmmmmmm dang that's 7.2m per half an hour, did not think the difference would be that big or I would do this sooner
>>534789281yo unban lull now it's the only way to save it
>>534924962implying that u can optimize this by reducing amount of unneeded unique items so u could hoard more in one go and fight "what if im selling +3% ASPD ring?" thoughts - geffenia works better if you wanna play more actively, however time of you selling stuff should be included within 30 minutes mark (aspd pot duration) because you'll be warping back couple of times to sell everything you got compared to mavkas where you can farm until hitting 90% or berserk runs out
>>534926386Truee, though you get stackables like blue pot and mastela in geffenia too good to not forget, and the difference that a rogue with steal can make in geffenia might be so gross that it doesn't matter if mavka require less attention
It would be nice of all of (you)s to stop being faggots on the day of the Lord (Sunday) and log on /v/3 for its anniversary to chat and take memorable group pictures. Don't be stubborn.
>>534789281>3Good call its been this way for a while now too.
>>534928720sorry we will have ET party that day
>>534928720>stop being faggots>take memorable group pictures
>>534929097Based
>>534929221If everyone is a faggot simultaneously no one is. -a gay man in a gay bar talking to a gay crowd
>>534928720Will try my best
>>534929538ackshuallly faggotry multiplies and you know it
>>534929830Ashketchuptually they can't reproduce and only work with addition
>>534930083I hate your fagenabler shit but i like Ashketchuptually so i'll let it go
>>534928720I'll try to be there
Maybe we can go all go kill some MVPs or something
Surely they aren't still being camped around the clock
>>534930747A MVP tour + a FFA pvp wreck fest would be fun. Maybe dev could add a free full heal NPC at Larry for it
>>534928720i forgot my login info and don't care enough to talk to niggerdev to reset my password
>>534931276sex with Kagami
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why does this bastard require 15 minutes to spawn?
>>534934253storm gust is consistent, meteor is mostly useful for its stacking ability (under bragi)
>>534934630maya dies to a single meteor cast on ccro unless you're really unlucky
>>534934630Yeah but with the amount of ACD you can get naturally here you dont even need bragi to stack a bunch of spicy meatballs.
>>534934912even being generous with every meatball hitting, that's bullshit
>>534932790while Chelle watches
>>534931276>>534932790>>534936906im a manly man, stop lusting over me
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>Wanna check out this event
>1% drop for tickets
>clear out anthell, nothing
>clear out sewers
>1 ticket, 1 thief bug card
>close game with no motivation because dev already announced he's pulling the plug
Why fucking bother doing this 150 times for a funny mount i'm losing soon?
Ironic that this is just more of the same shit i've been complaining about and loading it up with things to help "new players catch up" shortly before announcing the the death of server. Aimless grindlsop until the very end. I dunno if this is just an elaborate joke or you really suck THIS bad at timing.
>>534939351>>clear out anthell, nothing>>clear out sewersthere's your problem, better places exist
>>534939351>my grinding game has grinding in itpussy
>>534939563Someone was already camping all of orc dungeon judging by the amount of axes and shit dropping in there but after clearing two maps for 1 ticket I was reminded of dev's post and decided to do something marginally less pointless like cry about it on 4chan.
>>534939706the grind of every games you've put down in your life was left into the void. welcome to video games
>>534940616The difference is I can go back and pick up where I left off whenever. Well, except maplestory those kikes delete your entire account after like 8 years of inactivity.
>>534940616I can still boot up any of my oldies and my stuff will be there, shut up with your stupid live service cult
>>534940757We are literally playing "live service" atm though, so its an understandable point to take but he's being overly obnoxious about it trying to defend a 1% drop event right before server closure.
>>534940736>>534940757you like the mental safety net it provides but you don't actually go back to them and might even start a new game if you do so