Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #8529 - Evan hates Silver Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Jet Stream | Amy, Cream, & Big the Cathttps://youtu.be/qYMbDyCMHtU
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hackshttps://youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaserhttps://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k
>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Bustedhttps://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70
>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk
>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone
>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
Previous Zone:
>>534748691
My quota is done for the day.
>>534790916That's not me and I didn't make a single post last thread. Even if you never believe me. I'm just wondering if that anon is false-flagging on purpose, since he's using my filenames and copied a couple of my posts from the archives. He needs to tone it down if so. Too forceful even to me.
Shadow and Maria weren't/aren't a canon couple even if there's romantic undertones/inspiration/hinting to it. Shadow is technically single and it's not out of the question he could fall for someone who isn't Maria, even if I personally think that's unlikely to happen due to Shadow's mental issues.
Amy is more like Maria than Rouge
>>534793607This feels like the actual falseflag, the image of Krack the other posters told me about indicates they would never compromise on something like this. Surely all those Anons could not possibly have lied.
mandatory watching for silverbros or 06 enjoyers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20kw9Llsk0A
>>534793123>>534793573I think this guy actually raises some valid points
>>534793715The angry Shadriafag last thread is obviously not her. That person was antagonizing Shadougefag deliberately. You can tell because they made sure to hit all the beats that set Shadougefag off.
Krack clearly prefers Shadria, and I'm not here to play defense but if she acted like that the ships would have capsized more often than not.
>>534793873He did. But we're already in what if territory, so we could come up with other motivations for Gerald.
What would Windnic's (or Sunnic's, didn't feel like making a version with post-1998 Sonic) feelings be regarding Mohawknic?
>>534793396 (OP)Why does Evan hate Silver so much anyway? Isnโt he supposedly her favorite?
>>534794079Females just enjoy emasculation.
>>534794065>SunnicStill trying to make this a thing? Knight of the Wind also compares Sonic to the sun
>WindnicThat's just Sonic
>MohawknicSonic would be disgusted at the sight of that thing
Whereโs that damn fourth Chaos Emerald!?
>>534794065Apparently windfags don't actually like it when you say windnic
>>534794246Correct, it's just Sonic. If you need to add some other word to it it's because it's not Sonic.
>>534794201>Still trying to make this a thing?Yes, because the sun is on his tummy.
>>534794079>>534794150NTA but why all the emphasis on specifically cucking/emasculating him with lesbianism and also making him appear more effeminate and borderline gay?
>>534794379its because thats how the sonic fanbase has seen him for over a decade now. evan doesnt have an "agenda", she's simply writing silver how the western fanbase sees him. silver was treated as gay even back during the sonic shorts days.
i dont really have a problem with a character like uwuver existing, i just wish it was a different character and not silver
>>534794379His theme song was sung by a gay guy. His ENG voice actor negatively tainted his perception. Everyone hated him for the IT'S NO USE boss fight (and being the face of 06). The 2000s was a time when you could openly call something gay as an insult. Do the math.
>>534794379I don't think she was trying to do all those things. She was trying to make him cute. She thought Silver was cute and exaggerated those traits. Evan grew up in a time where it wasn't really expected to play Sonic games in japanese. As far as she was concerned Silver is supposed to be an insecure young boy with a high pitched voice. She is far from the only person with that impression.
Her fanfic version of Silver shows her impressions clearly. And yes, he's straight.
>>534793396 (OP)>still no Amy OPAmysistersโฆ Owari daโฆ
>>534794545>Evan grew up in a time where it wasn't really expected to play Sonic games in japaneseit still isnt, the majority of the fanbase still plays the dub even if its acknowledged by most that it has significant differences from the original japanese. people have versions of the sonic characters in their head, and they like to imagine them with their favorite english va and stuff, so getting them to try and stick with the japanese voices is kind of difficult
>>534794692Sega's fucktarded writing structure where the Jap script is done SECOND and thus coming across as localized doesn't help.
The Sun and the Moon.
The Wind and the Mountain.
>>534794506>>534794510Okay that explains the gay allegations.
>>534794545And this further contextualizes UwUver.
But again, why all the weird lesbian stuff?
>>534794692The choice to cast Kirk as Shadow has solidified into a lot of young peoples heads that he is actually supposed to be 50
>>534794510also part of it is that silver is genuinely a little effeminate in his mannerisms. it makes sense though, for someone who fights with his mind (i.e. doesnt use any physical strength) and also comes from a future where those social norms arent enforced because everythings gone to shit, and people have to worry more about not starving to death than whether or not a guy has slightly fruity mannerisms. however i could be just seeing this from a western perspective, as things like crossed legs while seen as effeminate in the west are considered rude and disrespectful in japan
no amount of explaining the japanese connotation behind crossing legs will counteract the fact that in the west it is visual shorthand for "Gay"
>>534793715It was me all along, falseflagging as me.
Someone has been acting like this for the past few months and now I'm 99% sure it's falseflagging. He copies my filenames while insulting Shadouge/Shadamy and arguing that Shadria is canon, which always riles up that one Shadougefag and derails the thread. He seems to conveniently do it when I'm not around and he doesn't deny it when he's called my name. Even copied my ritualpost at the beginning of the thread.
He's even gone weirdly quiet now...really microwaves my echidnas.
>>534795014im aware. that contributes to his perception in the west, but im not sure if him having "effeminate mannerisms" was actually intended on the japanese side of things. but if it was, it would make sense, considering everything else (i.e. silvers disregard for politeness)
>>534795015Unironically I canโt tell if youโre serious or trolling at this point and that is concerning.
>>534795140I'm serious, but that's also what a troll would say
>>534795140It isn't her. You can tell because the falseflagger avoids specifics and tailors their posts to target the raging Shadougefag.
>>534795015>>534795140>>534795216>>534795381I feel like asking for actual proof but idk what that would even be, but Iโm also kind of inclined to just believe it atp
>>534795381Is that Shadougefag the only one in these threads or just the most vocal and easily offended one?
>>534795482If the real Krack was that intolerant towards Shadouge, you would see more rageposts against Shadamy and similar non-canon pairings.
>>534795673So itโs just some guy shitposting to piss off the other guy. Got it.
>>534795814it's the kind of thing that happens when someone spends 9 months here showing everyone what pisses them off
If the Commander is so broken up about Maria and his own family and everyone else being killed during the massacre of the ARK, why does he work for the same organization that killed them all? Why only blame Shadow?
>trying to jerk to Surge hentai
>Find really great new images
>She has text bubbles confirming that the "viewer" is Sonic
Make it fucking stop already
>>534796173Sonurge Patriots in controlโฆ
>another sonic shipping melty
>>534794828people like lesbians, i guess. its seen as more "pure" than a gay male relationship, which is usually seen as very sexually charged and with obvious power dynamics, so its easier to put it in without major pushback while still having the token gay couple
as for why silver gets cucked? its because hes seen more as the "gay friend" and not an actual romantic interest. that and he already has blaze.
I really wish Sonictwt would stop trying to shove Blaze into everything, as if she even needs to be relevant
>>534796301how the fuck would you even make sonic x blaze unleashed. youd have to rework the entire story, sxsg works because gens already has a non story so tacking shadow on offscreen works
>>534796372feels good not being a furry
>>534795482It's all anonymous, so you can attribute posts to people and they can't disprove it. Fun!
I've drawn Shadouge/Shadamy multiple times and publicly liked/supported it. I have nothing against either ship except for the way their fans treat "rival shippers" and how the fanart is often dangerously ooc, but that isn't exclusive to them. Most shippers get territorial over their ship and ignore canon for wish fulfillment. Like how I ignore that Maria is a corpse. Although I guess that's less of a characterization issue and more of a lore issue...
>>534796235NO
I'M TIRED OF IT
SONURGEFAGS DON'T NEED TO FUCKING MONOPOLIZE SURGE
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO GET INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW OOC IT IS
I JUST WANT TO YANK IN PEACE WITHOUT GETTING KEKED BY SONIC HIMSELF
WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT? JUST SHOVING IN THE VIEWER'S FACE THAT THE SURGE FUCKS SONICS? WHY?
>>534796541Well I can respect your nuance. Although now I am confused why you are treated like such a boogeyman.
>>534796630>I JUST WANT TO YANK IN PEACE WITHOUT GETTING KEKED BY SONIC HIMSELFI know that the reason it displays as โKEKEDโ is because it filters โcuckedโ but reading this the first time was so funny because of how unexpected โKEKEDโ was.
>>534796678I'm stubborn/vocal/obsessive and have bad social skills
>>534796950But you seem capable of nuance.
>>534797041Built for Rape.
>>534797041It's convenient that uwuver's pose is an uwufied version of the channel pose
>>534794379Localization made him into an insecure whiny faggot and the IDW staff generally hate conventional masculinity/heterosexuality. They're on the American cartoon energy of generally wanting men to be stupid and effeminate and women to be girlbosses which then flanderizes itself over time.
>>534797041That "..." she puts before saying Silver's "very not that" is always funny.
>>534797480That's the real magic of uwuver. The total sincerity by which Evan rips his character to shreds. She is so certain, so genuine. I can't hate her for this. She thinks it's as simple as talking about Sonic being unable to swim or Shadow being a serious guy.
>>534797019The people who shitpost against her aren't
>>534797041>โฆvery not thatI fucking love Evan
>>534797041>>534797480>>534797628Does she hate canon Silver now that she knows him, or does she like him?
So what does /sthg/ think of Shad05?
Chroniclesfag wake up I have questions
how to ruin a community of charaterfags:
>take any character
>use it to represent your autism, like posting style, personal opinions, ships etc.
>repeat for months, keep it consistent
>sit back and enjoy the shitstorm
basically, to ruin characterfags you must be a characterfag
>>534797831She's trying to be accurate to canon Silver and still says he's her favorite so I guess she likes him.
>>534798051Sheโs trying to be more accurate to Canon Silver? Since when?
>>534798031Crackships cause insanity in any community
>>534798203Since a chinese fan on twitter called her out on how poorly she's been representing Silver. Evan said she wants to make him cooler again and acknowledges her mistakes. We haven't see what this will be like yet though, Ian's handled everything since 76
>>534798351>Since a chinese fan on twitter called her out on how poorly she's been representing Silver. Further proof that Chinks are the Illuminati.
Good morning from evropa.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSsNFPk2vNA
I don't think windfag brains work the same way everyone else's does..
>>534798704It's distracting how satam and sonic x both do this weird specific thing with rings and spindashes. Iirc this isn't even intentional.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vFU-UH1J5Ms&pp=ygUJI3NhZmRpYXJ5
>>534798182she's so cuuute
>>534798796Yes but it gives a purpose to those shitty rings at least.
I want to ejaculate in Cosmo's age-inappropriately large butt so much, bros.
>>534798638They're airheads.
>>534798840>shadow is meticulous when fucking, but when he got a bad day the neighborhood shakes>sonic is into cuddles and foreplay more than the act itself>silver is virgin>knuckles is gentle
Kjg1
md5: 1ed8f69d5ab41558bc68273eead7ab87
๐
Windfags don't sound that bad. They just want Sonic to act like the 2000s games right? That's not so bad. He was cool in those games.
>>534799273Thanks for your input, totally unbiased third-party non-windfag.
>>534799273Thanks for your input, fellow windchad.
>>534798840And then they ran a train on her (except Silver, of course).
>>534799273Ideally, I don't even need the games to go strictly back to the wind, I just want to games to be cool and if it leans more toward gen z/gen alpha "hype moments and aura" then it's close enough. As long the games don't go into stupid character deconstructions and tumblr therapy speak, the series will be fine
>>534798796Prime had rings and the characters could spindash without them.
Windfags would trade all of you for an in-character Sonic
>>534798945Whatever happened to the metal sonic ans shadow fusion character I thought that was pretty cool
I like Silver. As a foxfag, how could i torture him in the most unspeakable ways? Should i tie him up and suffocate his angelic face with fiona's crimson smelly tail?
>>534799825is this a joke about how timeskip fiona (age 40) hit on silver (age 14)
>>534799071Cosmo has a big bottom filled with pollen, and when she farts she spreads it out.
>>534799760Dunno Might still make an appearance
>>534798051Silverfsgs putting their faith in Evan are setting themselves up for big fat failure that or they gonna kill themselves
>>534800157Evan isn't that bad
>>534799882Ah, i forgot about this.
How come every fox in this franchise has a fetish for hedgehogs is beyond me.
>>534799273Sorry windchud, from now on is sonic going to be an ally who support children cutting their penises and their cute supple breast because they're gay. If you disagree you're a racist jpurist incel
*Sigh* Who triggered the Windfags?
>>534800427I look like this and I say this
>>534799273Yes. Windfags are that bad. Even if they are nice. If you let windfags be in charge, you would be begging for Sonic to have LESS screentime.
Remember how annoying it gets when the story stops in place to suck Sonic off? Windfags enjoy it.
Years of Archie and IDW have mind broken them until they hate any attempt to make Sonic grounded. Now they love their Sonic when he's literally Jesus.
Don't bother arguing with them. It won't work. They will always be able to pull up the games.
It doesn't matter to them if the stories in said games are shitty. They love that trash.
>>534798945I know this technically a fan design that got popular every with springless but I like how Sonic seemingly friendly with her
>>534800316NOOOO TAILS RAPE IS ILLEGAL!! YOUโRE GONNA GET ARRESTED TRIED IN COURT, AND SENT TO SUPERMAX PRISON WHERE 6โ5โ HUMAN MALES WILL LINE UP TO DELIVER THE MOST SOUL-CRUSHING BUTT-PULVERIZING BUTTRAPE YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE IN YOUR LIFE!!!
>>534800427JP Purists =\= Windfag
Not all windfags are purists. But all purists are windfags because being a windfag is the default setting for gamefags.
I loathe Silver potentialniggers. You don't like him, you just *want* to like him. You have to spend hours analyzing 06 to convince yourself that it's actually a masterpeice, as if smashing themes and motifs together excuses his complete lack of substance. His entire character and debut game was a cynical attempt to recreate the success of Shadow and SA2 with the hero/ dark motifs. He was changed to a hedgehog with a name that starts with S because they wanted his game to be next to Sonic and Shadow. Outside of 06 the "hedgehog trio" doesn't exist. It doesn't even exist meaningfully in 06.
Every potentialnigger is living in continuous denial that Sonic Team ratfucked nishiyama and now you're stuck with a hodgepodge of totally disconnected concepts. Look at your boy. Shoved into a box with a Hardlight OC.
>>534800662>love their Sonic when he's literally JesusYes
>>534800989Windtards when you point out that Eggmoon assassinates the entire main cast
>>534800834That sounds all very painful if it wasn't for the fact sonic is now a whore open for business.
Where is Sparky?
He is the only W*ndfag I respect.
>>534800662>characterfags will shill their characterwhy yes
Rivalsver is constantly taken out of context. Everyone in that game is blunt and hostile because it's a racing game with short text boxes.
It's like using Frontiers to prove any character is somber.
Mario is the sun. He's the embodiment of life, desire, hope, power, and renewal. He is the ever-present celestial object that is always ascending above us. He is distant, but also personal, inspiring, and always in view (as a metaphor for the self). Be like Mario.
>>534801140I thought he was your ultimate enemy
>>534801140Except, you don't respect anyone. Doctor.
Mario doesn't think about you at all
>>534800745.exe usually have Sonic torture everyone bit this one can play nice for a bit he almost always ends up torturing Tails and Knuckles for shita and giggles Eggman works for him so he's safe
>>534801424It's funny how the average cup size in Archie is seen as huge in idw
>>534800947I like Silver because he has a cool design and powers and some of his stages are fun
>>534801370He gets to be my ultimate enemy because he is a worthy and respectable foe. I'm not gonna waste my time destroying the disingenuous W*ndfag down the street.
>>534801424Shut up, child slapper.
>>534800662This so much this! I want Sonic to be a non binary transbians like myself, Windnic is boring and has no Character Development not too mention it's too Japanese(problematic writing)
Hope this helps!
>>534801531How can windfags be disingenuous when Sonic is always genuine?
>>534801495>child slapper.It was only ONE TIME, geeze...
sonic had... a rough transition
>>534801635They self-insert as Sonic so they can feel like they're better than they actually are. That's the whole point.
Another reason Sparky is based is because he openly says he self-inserts as Tails and doesn't play-pretend (as much).
>>534801140What's up, doc?
...I did not intend for that to sound like Bugs Bunny.
>>534801593You know as well as I do that windfags would sacrifice Ian just to have more canon
Windfags are literally the only people who should write Sonic stories. Go ahead and change my mind. I'll listen
Maigo
md5: 39fd610ee7ea4af2f9700d09747d14e5
๐
>>534801479Fuck I forgot about Maigo Sonic genuinely gets along with him
It bugs me that there was no Aquaman equivalent in the DC Sonic crossover.
It's all very interesting, let's talk about sally's ass now.
>>534801958>Go ahead and change my mindSKIDADDLE, SKIDOODLE
Your mind is now changed and your dick is now a noodle
>>534801958The most ideal person to write a Sonic story is one that appreciates all the characters. Someone who understands the wind, the sky, the roses, the mountain, and everything in-between.
>>534798840Shadow knows sex!?!?!?
>>534802109aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>534798840Shadow is the type of boy to be satisfied just from going down on a woman he loves. He worships pussy and forgets to get himself off
"Wind" is a cellphone ISP provider here in south europe, so every time i read you guys having an argument on that it feels weird to me. Sonic is not an internet provider.
>>534802236Shadow is a male prostitute
>>534800947People that actually analyze 06 aren't potentialfags. Potentialfags think he's a blank slate and don't care about the themes. I don't think 06 is even a good game but it and Silver do have substance.
file
md5: e45862bfef88e406d1bc3186eb022630
๐
>>534802547Actually, it's "Wind 3" now.
>>534802662No he's not. Even though he goes fast, geoffrey connects faster.
>>534801479The official bio confirm this but that's doesn't seem like it be the case for long it's tired of acting like Sonic
>>534802409I NEED TO RAPE SHADOW
>>534802773They both sucked ass so they fused to suck even more ass, like sonic.
>>534801805Sparky. What is Volcanix's arc in your project, if he has any?
From my perspective, the W*nd and the M*untain would logically have opposite arcs to their development. Knuckles is focused on one goal, one path, one dream, and his villain would logically reflect that in all the worst possible ways by being obsessed, willing to sacrifice everyone around him to achieve his goal. In contrast, Sonic would be the opposite; he is goalless, purposeless, dreamless, and will ruin the path to a goal on a whim.
Now, I already know how to make an arc for Sonic. It's easy to think up of a story where you need to compromise to reach a solution, but I have trouble thinking of one where you need to NOT compromise to fix the problem. I don't want to be cheap and go full "Power of friendship", although that is a part of it, I think it should come more as a product of some other realization.
Since you don't think Knuckles is the moral paragon like Sonic, you probably have an arc for him, right?
>>534802648Nah. The Japanese as a people generally can't write they just adlib bullshit.
>>534802773the FVARKING TITANS, my HEROES
1
md5: a3ae34ff71692dc0c75cd01147ce11c8
๐
>>534802573Shadow is a slut for human women
>>534802947If that's what you want to believe. Schizo.
Pitch a Mountain game to me. It ABSOLUTELY can't have Sonic in it.
>>534803124>hmomacucks need to edit hfomagod artMADE
FOR
HUMAN
WOMEN
>>534803119shitkles can't carry a game
>>534803051>>534803124Heโs a slut for both
If the Wind can carry a game, then you better believe a Mountain game will do the same.
>>534803351shitkles has 0 unique appeal
Tails.. Stop teasing random people on the streets..
>>534803475insecure shitdowfag detected
>>534803601I thought Rouge's boots were penises in the middle panel. I've seen too much porn.
>>534803601shitklesfags never beating the seething at shadow allegations
>>534802573So that's where boku comes from
>man servant
>>534802059Poor Tails lol
Iโm now just realizing that gold is extremely similar to whisper. Right down to being associated with silver
>>534803089I've consumed enough Japanese media to know what a Japanese slop looks like. It's a dreamy and confusing slurry that approximates meaning so it can be le deep.
>Mephiles is Shadow's shadow whoooaaaahhh
>>534803772>Duotroon phrasingHmmm...
>>534803941duofag didn't invent the phrase dumbass
>>534803787when shadow is woken up in sa2 he says he'll grant his "master" a wish
in sonic battle shadow says he is a weapon to be used by his "master"
i feel like it's an overlooked trait that shadow takes comfort in being used and guided, but only by specific people
>>534803821He gonna be the one to save the trapped souls isn't he
>>534803836All designed by Evan
>>534803601So uhh which one is more likely to be in-character/canon. Knuxouge or Shadouge?
HOLY MOLY /STHG/ LOOK AT THIS IMAGE! THIS IS NOT FAKE!
>>534804063He's the only fucktard who uses the phrase here, you idiotic chimp-brained faggot.
>>534803896I think you just can't meet things at their own level.
>>534799559Non-windfags would trade all windfags for one corn chip
>>534804217No, this can't be.
>>534804353Silver and 06 are pretentious and try to be at a level they clearly aren't.
>>534804190>Blonde hair>Blue eyesIf they didn't all have brown skin I'd say that Evan supports the Aryan master race.
>>534804291mindbroken by bestieposting lmfao
Is the teen who hates the whiteboard sick or something?
The whiteboard was posted last night but he didn't reply 15 times to it, then that other guy did his edit removing art he doesn't like and he didn't spam replies to that either.
Did he finally kill himself?
>>534804217This is the biggest Flynn update since he shut down the Bumblekast
>>534804217Damn the Bumblekast shut down really broke him like crazy
>>534804556You're still overstanding them.
>>534804693>Knucklesfags are Amyfags now
>>534803601Dude, I literally agree with you and hate Shadow, but PLEASE don't post these cringy ass Knuxouge comics. I just wanna help you out here.
>>534804217Is this going to become a new meme?
>>534804693How is basic pattern recognition equal to being mindbroken? Come down off that high horse, gorilla.
>>534804217Is this real? I saw this on Xitter too.
Up and down and all around
>>534803821Not even Knuckles likes Tails from the little we see them interact
>>534804718The biggest autist can only push so far for a decade or so before moving on.
Example pic related, without his poster, will lose the status as one of the most posted pics of all times on 4chan.
>>534802946>Sparky. What is Volcanix's arc in your project, if he has any?I've been revising my plans for that a lot, lately. I think I'm actually very unsure of what my overall plans for him should be.
The plans for Volcanix are focused more on rebuilding the initial premise and set-up behind his Knuckles role, by using Kevin 11 in Ben 10 Omniverse during the "Rooters" arc to recontextualize and add to the "Sonic vs Knuckles" rivalry, framing it as "Sonic" being seen as a threat to the world so "Knuckles" is being used as a weapon to take him out. And using Terra from Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep to add to and recontextualize the "tricked by Eggman" aspect, because another idea is "Iblis" being sealed inside of him, which then means that most of the plot around him is the villain(s) trying to get Volcanix to "erupt".
But for Volcanix's arc specifically, my ideas usually center around having him be obsessed with "Power", and having to learn "Responsibility", mostly because that's more-so inspired by my real life friend that Volcanix is supposed to represent. But that didn't fit, well, the KNUCKLES role he's meant to have against Energy, so I had to just readjust those ideas as his backstory/origin. Another aspect, I guess, is a sense of wanting to restore honor to his family or whatever, which I guess is just the Movie Knuckles direction but crossed with the weight of what the Knuckles Clan are like in the games where they were a power hungry clan of conquerors but were wiped out as a result of that.
But beyond all that, I feel like I'm actually not 100% sure of what I should do with Volcanix and his arc in the long-run. Beyond the vague sense that I want him to be a Superman figure, a Guardian of the world as a whole. I need to really think this through a lot more. I probably haven't focused on him enough.
>>534805283โ@Grok is this true?โ
>>534805384did you mean to post the barneyfag pic
>flynn
>feminist
>yurifaggot
>cuckold
Every time.
>>534805384Nta that's barely 45th most posted, surpassing Carlos.
>>534804998>shitting on chimishiroFuck you, he shills the Canon Trifecta and also does subtle SonKnux, She is Based.
>>534806082Ah fuck, they lied o me.
>>534806037Don't forget being an archiefag
>>534806184Hey man, I tried to help you out, but you do you.
>>534802946>Now, I already know how to make an arc for Sonic. It's easy to think up of a story where you need to compromise to reach a solution, but I have trouble thinking of one where you need to NOT compromise to fix the problem.Actually, I'd say that both Sonic and Knuckles are inherently uncompromising.
Sonic is unstoppable. Knuckles is immovable. Both are rooted in a sense of stubbornness, but in opposite ways. Sonic will do what he wants even if the world tells him he's wrong, Knuckles will stand firm in his duties in spite of even his own desires. You can't change either of their minds, and neither will compromise. It's that very factor that would make them rivals in the first place.
>>534804998>hate ShadowWhy are you gay?
>>534804862It's completely deserved. Silver and 06 shat the bed so hard with its themes that we had to get a new subseries.
>>534806591The themes didn't do that the game being unfinished did.
>>534793396 (OP)Give me one good reason I should post here today. Why should I sit through the same 4 discussions we always have about Twitter, Namefags, IDW and Ian and not about Sonic?
>>534800947Silver's appeal lies in his unique role as a tragic, time-displaced hero, his desperation to save a doomed future gave him more raw narrative weight than most Sonic characters ever get. While *06* was flawed, his core concept being a hero who might have to become a villain to do the right thing was compelling. Fans donโt need to pretend *06* was perfect to appreciate that.
As for "potentialnigger" discourse? Grow up. Liking a character doesnโt require delusion, itโs okay to acknowledge flaws while still valuing what worked. Silverโs best moments prove he doesnโt need forced hedgehog tropes to matter.
>>534806772Talk about Sonic the Wind and how Westerners are trying to compromise that
>>534806136You faggots like this this ship the best? ew
>>534805438Why do faggots insist on making Sonic vs Knuckles art still? They're friends and Knuckles is factually lame. Shadow was always Sonic's true rival and they look better together than the bright ADHD combination of Sonic and Knuckles.
>>534798351I think they advertised that she'll be taking back the reins when #84 rolls by. Shame that it's the Sage arc so Silver isn't involved.
>>534806906Buddy, Sonic hasn't been like the wind since 2009. Not to mention, the Japanese made forces. Mind telling me how he was like the wind in that one? Hard mode: dont come to me with that bullshit saying "they made it for western audiences"
>>534806983Knuckles was Sonicโs first rival before Shadow even existed, insecure Shadowfag
>>534806669Yes they absolutely did. People disliked 06, Secret Rings, and Black Knight because they were lame and un-Sonic. Everyone compared them to Final Fantasy. People criticized SA2 but gave it a pass because it was an action movie and they mostly missed or ignored the themes.
Sonic is the thesis.
Knuckles is the antithesis.
Sonic is the wind, Knuckles is the mountain.
"The Wind" is the thesis statement of the franchise. "The Mountain" is the anti-thesis. The counter-argument.
Knuckles exists to be the counter argument against Sonic. If "The Wind" is the ideal, then "The Mountain" critics that ideal by pointing out all the reasons why it shouldn't work. If Sonic is the moral paragon, then Knuckles has to also be a moral paragon in a sense, or have that level of authority to challenge Sonic's own moral standing. Everyone that argues against the wind, that doesn't like this aspect of Sonic and tries to change it, that is how Knuckles should be characterized. The opposition against Sonic's perspective.
>>534806983Knuckles is the definitive Anti-Sonic. Sonic vs Knuckles is BASED.
>They're friendsCanonically, they are Friendly RIVALS. Fighting Buddies. They are, and always will be, RIVALS. The kind of best bros that never get along, and never will, even when they have each other's back as friends on the same team hanging out in the same group. That will NEVER be Sonic & Shadow, that will ALWAYS be Sonic & Knuckles.
>Writing discourse
>Shipping discourse
>decision discourse
You mangos dont even have friends, relationships nor do you ever work, what makes you talk about such thing and never to realize the gaming company relies on games?
Here let's try to talk about gameplay and game design:
Oh my fucking God, Sparky is here. Fuck this, I'm out.
>>534807346What took you so long to notice?
Metal Sonic is the only good rival
>>534806983Shut up tranny
Next you're going to tell us you don't suck SA2 dick for relevance.
>>534806332"Compromise" in the sense of sacrifice. If Sonic does something, it's cause he wants to. If Knuckles does something, it's because it's his duty. The difference between want and sacrifice.
>>534807193Shut the fuck up Sparky
>>534807310People never talk about gameplay in these threads. I honestly kind of wonder why that is.
>>534807173Black Knight and Secret Rings weren't hated like 06. Nobody even knows those games have themes.
When we needed them the most, they were gooning
Knuckles should be the guy that says "Actually, Sonic ISN'T the coolest, and here's why! First Reason:" and then he just punches Sonic in the face so hard, Sonic is sent flying around the entire globe. "Next reason", and Knuckles punches Sonic again once he circles back around, sending him up sky high. Then when Sonic is coming back down, Knuckles leaps up and grabs Sonic and slams him down into the ground so hard, it creates a giant crater that cracks the planet open a bit.
And then Sonic's like "Pretty solid argument, Knux... But have you considered this?" and then Knuckles is torn to shreds by a giant blue hurricane tornado thing.
>>534807310The characters were always why people liked this franchise, not the gameplay
>>534807801>Turned to shreds by airYou fags are over estimating the protagonist
>>534807656If you're framing the story as Sonic needing to sacrifice, then Knuckles' story should be Knuckles needing to NOT sacrifice.
That's actually a scenario I wanna do for a character I have, a girl that always puts the needs of others above herself. Like super self-sacrificing to absurd degrees, so there's a point where she has to actually put her foot down and put herself first, and actually be a bit selfish, or else she'd be letting people walk all over her.
That specific scenario obviously doesn't make sense for Knuckles, though.
>>534807919Retard. Knuckles got his ass handed to him by Sonic in his debut game
Why canโt we have side media without shitty OCs?
>>534809072Pinkpanthress coded
>>534809072She looks so cute in jeans!!
>>534808235Morning! It's night here in Mumbai but whatevs
>>534809498This artist has said she uses Pinkpanthress for inspiration her she's well liked in the Sonic Fandom <33+*
>>534809704>MumbaiEyo Rajneesh howโs it going?
>>534809704I hope you have a lovely night then!
>>534809743>Proved she wasn't a one hit wonder Yeah people really want her to produce some tracks for Sonic
>>534809983Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
>>534809983The boy's a lair
>>534810335I'm suspecting he's the Tailspedo but switched to targeting Amy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r3IHDr7M2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnH0cnJck6g
>>534810461>>534810335Why are you guys this paranoid?
Imagine a girly pop year, to a fandom that hates women kek
>>534810717>>534810659believe it <3 ok but lol if they do go the soft girl girly pop route with Amy leading up to movie and shit most people would just be happy she's not a forced girl boss or some shit
>>534811113why blaze has more boob than amy? is she crying of happiness?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnH0cnJck6g
Shadow offers himself for free
>>534809793It's fine a women just got raped yesterday but it's only because she's a dalit but it's like that every day
>>534810335Schizo
>>534811536you really like this slim amy artstyle, huh? It's very early 2000 core
>>534806983Because they look cool fighting. Isn't that good enough?
Besides, they're the type of people to get into a boss fight against each other and immediately team up against Chaos 4. It's just fun.
>>534811693Yes these days but generally it's doesn't matter
>>534811693>>534812137Another common thing with Amy art now is her in these eerie situations sometimes on the nose or subtle like this
>>534812261I like that a lot too
>>534812261wait what do you mean?
>>534804670No it's just the creatively bankrupt thing where if a character has brown/dark skin, their hair has be be some variation of blond/white/gray for contrast and to make them interesting it can't be brown eyes, so they always default to blue. You'll see this shit a lot in animes or anime artstyled games that happen to have brown characters and I think its a very tired and dull trope
>>534811048>believe it <3 ok but lol> most people would just be happy
Rouge who goes crazy after years of censorship
>>534813368Cringe text aside, that person is right especially after the backlash Peach got in the Mario movie.
>>534804718How do I get to your whiteboard?
>>534813859she's doing just fine
>>534814639>>534814431I am scared of psycho amy, but weirdly enough I like it when she is possessed by a ghost, I don't find that creepy somehow
It's gonna get better, /sthg/. I don't know how, I don't know when. But it will get better. One day, hopefully in our lifetime, we'll be able to see another good Sonic game.
>>534814886If Amyfags shut the fuck up first we'd have it better, but that's a really hard step
>>534814639Haha Metal special effect makeup is so good it's almost like that is Sonic face slapped on to his face :)
>>534807310How should Sonic level design be altered in order to better fit an open world environment?
>>534815420fine I'll stop sorry
>>534814318lurk a bit longer
>>534814886Donโt even care anymore, give me more movies and shows and Iโm good
>>534813723Hard disagree. The "soft girl girly pop" route for Amy would be just as creatively bankrupt as the "girlboss" trope, just another lazy stereotype slapped onto a character whoโs never been allowed to evolve organically, the problem isnโt "strong vs cute" itโs that sega (and her retarded fags) keep reducing her to vibes instead of giving her real agency
>>534815968It's absolutely imperative they fix how dogshit the game looks first and foremost. Frontiers' visuals were utter trash, much like the rest of the game. But to even make it playable, they'll need to fix the visuals and while they're at it, remove fucking boost already.
>>534816191Tony Hawk levels are all about giving the player multiple options at any moment. How would that translate into Sonic gameplay?
>>534816464True. I would have given up at this point if it hadn't been for the movies showing me what Sonic can and should be.
>>534816625There is a mod that tries to do that. What do you think of it?
>>534815968Mix the actual roads with the environment, there's a beginning and an end goal everywhere. like god of war.
>>534793396 (OP)SEGA mandates are warranted
>>534816649>put stage gimmicks eveywhere >have every stage gimmick be themedThe top of a chili dog stand? Trampoline. An onning? Also a trampoline. Laundry line? A bungee line that can be swung on, bounced on, etc. An electric cable? Also a bungee line. Everything is grindable.
>>534816896Does it fix the pop in and the characters idly standing and minorly moving their hands while they talk? I mean, at some point you're just polishing a turd. I put like 110 hours into that game. I wanted to like it. I doubt a mod would sway my opinion about it. I could give it a chance, but then I run into the dull collectathon gameplay. I would need like, 100 mods to make that game into anything I'd want to play, and at that point, why wouldn't I play what I want to?
Im glad that mod exists, but its a minor bandage on a gaping wound.
>>534816089Not gonna lie, I keep fail miserably lurking for it
>>534816896God I really hope Frontiers 2 doesn't have the random lines and platforms in the sky and baby random puzzles landmarks. If they are doing open world again, I hope they take notes from some fan games where the platforms and shit are built into the terrain
>>534804024Why is it black?
>>534817186>there's a beginning and an end goal everywhereI think they did that intentionally. Those short platforming sequence spit you out to consider your next options (guardians, puzzles, cyberspace, memory tokens.)
>>534816237>>534816452I feel sorry for you Blazenerds, you only have sustenance when you disturb our queen, you and silvershitters are just the same lol
>>534817542The issue comes with trying to get investors to allocate money into a project like Sonic.
Why, as an investor, should I invest in Sonic, when no matter the quality of the games, sells anyways? Why not take the money Sonic makes and say, put it into Yakuza instead, where Japan actually likes that series? The truth is, there won't ever be a time again that SEGA's gonna put resources into Sonic. There's no need. It sells already.
>>534816475>soft girl girly pop>reducing her to vibesYou didn't pay attention to anything any Amy fags said if thats what you think. There's a middle ground, its TMOSTH and the last arc of idw. Capable and strong, takes no shit from people, but is still bubbly and girly. End of story
>>534817267I think Sonic CD levels are kinda like that, especially Collision Chaos.
>>534818029>ShItDW>The game where everyone is a tumblr oocI pity you.
>>534803124>>534803252>Shado with men is smiling>Shado with women is frowning
>>534818149Sonic CD is a fucking mess tho, there's no place to run
>>534817542Shadow Gens kinda did that with White Space
>>534816475>keep reducing her to vibes instead of giving her real agencyThis but with literally every character.
>>534818338I don't get why people think Amyfags are some impossible group to please, every fucking panel of the riders arc where she showed up you had actual females coming out of the woodworks saying "yass Amy's back again". There was so much praise for her portrayal in tmosth. And even more for Evan clearly listening to the critique of her other portrayals like Frontiers. It's really simple. 2000s Amy without the stalker nonsense and she's fixed.
>>534818493You are supposed to use the stage gimmicks to your advantage, not fight against them
Windnic is a hyperniche interpretation of Sonic the Hedgehog. Most every normal person and fan of Sonic knows him as his 90s attitude version, or Roger's burn out surferbro, or now, Ben Schwartz.
No one know, or cares about windnic and every time SEGA writes him like that, the game flops, every time. No one likes the Wind characterization.
>>534818963>without the stalker nonsense>fixed
During the past few days, what caused Amyfags to be all uppity?
>>534818970>You are supposed to use the stage gimmicks to your advantage, not fight against themDo you know what game series this is?
>>534819296That's how Sonic CD is designed. All those attractions aid in time travel
>>534819221Yes, fixed. Because her becoming a stalker was flanderized version of her character by Sonic X, Heroes and Battle. She was never that bad in the adventure games and her chasing Sonic over a cute crush and tarot card predictions got over inflated into her being a crazy bitch that'll harm sonic for now bowing down to her whims
Nite and Don won't be able to get married anymore.
The more I look at Silver's story in 06, the more I notice that the morally grey character who will do anything to fix the future is actually Blaze, not Silver
>>534819634>She was never that badLMAO. She went to Little Planet just to meet Sonic.
>>534819689And unlike Silver, she actually does something that works.
>>534819689The more I look at Blaze the more I think she's Silver's girlfriend
>>534819634*for not
>>534819732That's her introduction you doofus. She sought him out because of her tarot card predictions and then later on becomes a friend of his that grows as a character by the end of the Adventure games. Then that part of her character got flanderized and turned to the max
4th Doctor - IDW Sonic
5th Doctor - Tails
9th Doctor - Shadow if Maria died much later in life
11th Doctor - Archie Tails
13th Doctor - Amy
15th Doctor - X Sonic.
>>534819689That's more reason why she's so forced in there, she feels like she's agreeing with everyone rather then having a melty at least once.
>>534820018Doctor Who is complete trash.
>>534820018The fourth doctor is Japanese Sonic sure he is preachy but he also will just kill people.
>>534819793>worksIt never worked she just died off, silver had to team up to kill god.
Maybe Evan should canonize Gold so Silver has a proper tard wrangler from his time period
>>534819961Because Amy is not supposed to be anything else but a fangirl, her becoming a hero is out of character.
>>534820357Silver was Gold's tard wrangler in the Silver Age.
>>534820231>It never workedThe ending gives Silver his blue skies at the cost of his friend's life. It worked
>>534820215Yes but he usually only kills at a necessity or leads the villains to just do themselves in
Do you think Neo Metal will be the villain for Movie 4? Or will it be a total Metal Sonic invasion? How do you think the plot will play out?
>>534819668There's no way that goes through. All hell breaks loose if it does.
>>534820597They didn't do anything when 177 names were listed on Epstiens list, they didn't give a shit when Isreal starved Gaza, what makes you think those lazy faggots would do anything about this?
>>534820420>Silver was Gold's tard wranglerEvan really didn't understand Silver
>>534820357They should both be relegated to the comics only
>>534820451That is how Japanese Sonic operates.
>>534820360>becoming a hero is out of character.No it isn't, she has the development to back it up and it's regularly enforced by SOJ that she regularly trains herself. She was inspired by Sonic like every other friend he has.
Her BECOMING (as in implying progression from a previous state) is supported by on screen development which is different from flanderization that isn't addressed in story and is just the will of a writer writing ooc because they don't understand the character and they dont actually realize they've changed the character.
>>534820420>>534820762It's so weird how Evan wrote Silver as actually being intelligent in the Silver Age only to make him mentally retarded in IDW.
Does Evan understand Tails?
Uwuver has proven to be more popular and more accepted than his Trunks2 personality. Its only a matter of time before he acts that way in the games. SEGA always bends the knee to popularity
You can't "fix" Blaze in 06 because the problem is Silvaze. The answer to the question "how to make 06 Blaze better?" is just various flavors of "delete Silvaze".
