We are MC raiders edition

>News
Turtle WoW is releasing a FRESH server (RP-PVE) called Ambershire on August 17th.
Project Epoch had a dev leave the team recently.
Ascension has Bronzebeard+ or BBC+ for short and some people are playing on it so check it out now!

>Released Servers
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA)
Azerotica - https://azerotica.net (ERP Classic+)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future)
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)
WotLK5Man - https://wotlk5.com (WotLK)

>Guilds
<Full Moon Company> - Turtle WoW (Nordanaar server), crossfaction, whisper anyone
<Totally Nice Dudes> Bronzebeard+ (Ascension server), whisper Kott

>Turtle
Vanilla client enhancements - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Client_Fixes_and_Tweaks (most servers forbid them)
Curated list of addons that should work in Turtle - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX

>Previous Thread
>>534613931

Hey Basically I'm just not gonna play it (Ambershire)
I know... UGH I know.....
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just that I'm not gonna play it is all
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>534819370
That's so funny Fish

worgen males hnghhh

>Project Epoch had a dev leave the team recently.
Who? What happened?

>>534819079
it is rough, i can't risk acting on it in real life unless i want to be written out of the will and have my life destroyed

how does Blizzard manage to keep all of the sovl on their official servers?

Post more FMC members TRP profiles

What do I even miss about this game? The grind? The 40 man VC? The PvP? It’s all really quite good. I defeated KT with a merced guild on LHC server.

But I still miss it. How’s Azeroth?

Orc/Tauren Shaman ftw!

>>534819481
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/534722847
they've imploded

>>534820645
>Orc/Tauren Shaman ftw!
pass

>>534821454
that's sad

>>534820645
>40 man VC
You do not need 40 players for VC, it’s a 5 man dungeon, wtf?

>>534821783
only blizzard trannies call deadmines vc

>>534821783
40 man voice call. Yeah. VC is VanCleef.

>>534822003
everyone actually says voip much how like they say dm instead of vc

>>534821507
Tauren for ele pvp! Stomp, Chain Lightning, shock!

>>534822205
DM confusion. Why is there a 18 rogue in our Dire Maul group.

>>534822469
>people said vc instead of dm not to confuse it with a lvl 55+ dungeon that didnt even exist yet
and just to destroy your argument even further, people add the cardinal direction to the end so you know they are obviously talking about dme, dmw, etc

>>534822740

Oh fuck it is a Deadmines group. Sorry. I’m retarded.

>>534822740
I do both DM and DMX, it's not like a 60 would say they want to do deadmines without any context

>>534822740
very few people ran east and west, and people called north "trib"

>>534823209
LFM DM trib ogre tannin reserved!

What's typically in higher demand on turtle. Tanks or healers

>>534823707
Healers for raids, tanks for random dungeons

>>534823707
tanks pre naxx healers naxx and onwards

it's the last time I give any of you losers a chance, you like to pretend you're a man oh so mysterious and wise and tough but in reality you're a pussyboy pathetic and scared of commitment
goddess what a waste of my time that was, keep being a nobody you will die alone, virgin even

Think about playing WoW again... but Fallout 4 be buzzin right now fr fr. Still I do miss some of you.

>>534823980
nure...

>>534823980
I'm sorry...

>>534823914
Eeh the average piggie/guild overstack healers while tanks throw a hissy fit and quit if they're not the MT or even the first OT

He'll never suspect a thing.

>>534823980
Aoiyuki please come back...

>>534823980
you can't say that without dropping a name for us

>>534824660
kill him

>>534824850
not in my contract, I will do no such thing

>>534823980
>

>>534823980
Elaynna... I'm sorry...

>>534823980
Sylma...

>>534823980
>goddess
holy shit this might be the gayest thing i've ever read in this general.

For a minute there I thought I somehow wandered back in to /pso2g/ for the first time in 4 years. Seek help.

>bronzebeard global chat filled with bootlickers that will dogpile on anyone complaining about the retail features
>i randomly message one "suck my dick, retard" and log off
>uninstall

>>534826020
i'm not the one who was complaining in global, to clarify. i just agreed with the guy.

>>534824480
Its more about behavior and the fact that warrior is much more difficult to play than any of the other classes that can tank.
On one side its turtle being incompetent when it comes to balancing on the other its the bear tank pressing one button and getting all the aggro on him. While the warrior tank struggles to keep up aggro on one single mob.
Then he screeches stuff like
>"I'm the MAINTENK I'M THE MAINTENK"
or insult the other tank in very hostile ways.
Like a absolute piece of shit. Nobody likes being deleted and it only causes people to grow resentful and that is why FMC is dying.
Also dps who make it a competition to take threat away and cause wipes for shits and giggles.

>https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?p=141159#p141159
anyone have a chance to analyze these class changes? who are the winners and the losers? what will be the biggest impacts wrt raiding and pvp? i haven't played in a couple of months but looking to start back up on Ambie.

>>534826020
>>534826178
>turtle tranny being a hypocrite
>posts a shartranny booru pic
miserable fail at life soiteens are turdle shills

>>534823980
Fish...

>>534826340
this is elaynna, the fmc tank that couldn't keep threat, didn't consume, had to have everything explained to him weekly then threw a meltie and left over john and telol making jokes about both being the new main tanks

You lied.

>>534827017
is he really gone?

>>534826558
For pve paladins lost
For pvp paladins and warlocks lost

>>534827216
I didn't lie about being new and I'm not the "maintenk" of a dead guild.
>threw a meltie and left over john and telol making jokes about both being the new main tanks
No I left back then because of a certain drunk paladin abusing his powers.
>john
Who had a massive meltie because of the two reasons I mentioned and completely abandoned FMC after they couldn't progress past the spiderwing in Naxx.
>the fmc tank that couldn't keep threat
I never had any problems keeping threat with other guilds that weren't FMC strange...

how many talent points do you get on bronzebeard? Those talent trees are very large...

>>534827436
that's a bit of a bummer for me because i was eyeing warlock for ambie. meanwhile, shamans look to be getting significant boosts, especially for pvp.

>>534827808
Oh Elaynna…

>>534827808
You never learn

Somedays I feel like pulling the curtain back on everything. Expose it all.
But it’s funnier to vaguepost.

Filthydrunk took Elaynna’s e-virginity.

>>534824043
Hop on bbc.

>>534828385
I did learn plenty without FMC that is. Much more in fact. I even leveled a priestess to level 55 and she could be level 60 in a week would I be allowed to join raids again with her I wonder?

Someone elsewhere said that healer priests are shit on Turtle. Is this true?

>>534829070
Yes they suck but its better than no healers at all.

>>534829070
Palachads will snipe every skill you cast and ruin your parses

>>534829017
Probably.

why are you still so stuck up over fmc when you've been gone for half a year

>>534829338
Why do they suck at the moment? I did read something about the newer tier sets being bad. Are they going to fix things? Seems silly to have the archetypal healer class be bad. Reading about this shit kinda makes me not want to play. Class balance is difficult and private servers almost always fuck it up when they "improve" things.

>>534829923
to serve as a reminder why intelligent people dont play with 4chan but the brainlets never learn

>>534829070
Priests aren't shit at all

>>534829749
Lmao just kidding. Why should I heal people who treated me badly?
>>534829923
I'm not. Anon just pointed out tanks getting angry and I told him why they get angry.

Just a friendly reminder that the ONLY wpsg originating guild that ever cleared real content was <Just> on Kazzak, and they got not one but TWO cutting edges.

>>534830578
Most of the FMC people you knew who treated you badly are long gone however.
I’m not saying you should join by the way.

>>534830357
All the other classes are better at healing. Priests only have very niche situations where they have arguably an edge. But otherwise you better play any of the other classes that can heal.
Paladins mog you in terms of single target healing.
Druids in terms of aoe heals.
Shamans come with useful buffs and can heal just as good.

>>534830578
No one treated you badly

>>534830727
The co-founder of just is a gm of <TND> on BBC+

>>534830727
Cutting edge on private servers are meaningless

>>534830972
yea, you need to be split raid farming world firsts in retail to become a wow world first millionaire pro-gamer streamer. oh... wait no one gives a shit about that either.

>>534830357
They're fine healers but perhaps harder to play than the rest and more likely to get sniped

>>534830972
It was on retail on 8.0 and 8.1 buddy boyo

>>534826753
>this makes sense to a brown brain

>>534831720
>wpsg

>still using wojaks
friendly reminder that /qa/ lost, your board and admins lost, and all of you were raped buy a guy who uses >pic as a avatar and is the new m00t

>>534832368
to be fair /qa/ shut the site down for a week so it wasnt a total loss

>>534832108
Yes
Wpsg.

Started with cata private server, went to theatre of dreams wotlk, ended up in bfa retail and cleared mythic uldir and BOD.

Best wpsg guild ever existing.

>>534832368

Maybe I’ll finally reply to your message today maybe.

But maybe not.

gonna be honest, im not impressed by guilds raiding unless its a guild of people with full time jobs
wow doesnt exactly take skill, especially when you have the right addons
so when you tell me a wpsg guild cleared a mythic, i take it as a matter of course
its like pretending a shark is impressive because it killed a human in the water

What did they mean by this? Is Bronzebeard cooked?

>>534834186
You absolutely can just simplify down everything to bare minimum like "bro just pull the boss until it dies"
Just like you can say that football match is 22 retards chasing a rubber ball on the field until it ends up in the goal,

But that doesnt mean there arent things that need to happen in between that have to be done for it to be done successfully.

>Muh addons play the game for me
Mekkatorque for example famously forced the players to do the voice chat minigame because "addons" couldnt save you there

https://youtu.be/LBepbIqWwP4?si=vpyxm3b9dL_NXRDi

>>534834424
DoAbbcbros...

>>534834978
sure but its till not much of a skillful endeavor, its more of a time investment

>>534835126
I'm not sure i'd go that far. And admittedly i'm not an expert, but 1.4-1.8% click rate sounds insanely low.

>>534826753
>turtle "shills" out of nowhere
rent free much, my indian friend?

>>534837034

>>534837271
>Advised level 25-34
Honestly looks pretty cool

Give it to me straight, will I be able to get a spot as a paladin in Ambershire?
I like paladin but theres way too many of them on current turtle.

>>534838348
You will. May have to change your role around to healer depending on what happens but any non-serious guild will be fine with you even if you are a Paladin

>>534827308
He is online right now!

>>534827808
I love you can we have sex

>>534839656
liar

>>534838894
There's so much jank ass shaman gear in the Turtle patch

>>534837271
Where did you get this map from? I don't see it anywhere.

>>534837271
Damn that really looks huge

>>534840640
that's what she said

>>534840236
Its literally on turtles launcher right now.

Asalys won

>>534841063
>he uses the launcher

>>534841136
vanillafixes to launch superwow and other mods is the white man's solution. i applaud turtle for getting a bunch of the performance improvements into the launcher though. i would use it if they also incporated nampower and snowfall.

>>534841116
Shut up

Elaynna won

>>534843240
who?

I just hope they are both happy and having fun together

Question about ascension.

I understand that if I select a featured build, say vampire lord, when I reach 70 I will unlock all the related enchants including the legendary one.

But how does levelling works related with specs? say that I reach level 70 with vampire lord. If I buy a tome of specialization will I start at 70? In which case, if I start at 70 with an hoplite I won't unlock the enchants, so the idea is to level from 1?

>enjoy solo leveling in vanilla
>dread joining voice chat or a party with friends every time

am i autistic

>>534850308
I hate people that insist on sitting in voice chat all fucking day. Like sure we can talk, but I don't want to spend every fucking moment I am playing something listening to someone talk about everything on their mind, or having to hear them eat/drink/breathe. I get being in voice if we are actively doing something, or just chatting for a bit, but every second I am at the computer is too much.

>>534840175
That new AOE shamans are getting sounds crazy. will be absolutely wild in BGs, especially AV. It looks like they've reverted some of the most hated Shaman changes from last year's CC2 update... while also trying to buff them in PvE and totally ignoring the PvP meta, where Shaman is retardedly dominant.

Net result? Shamans will now be more bursty and have an insane second AOE besides chain lightning. The Turtle pvp meta will basically be Shaman vs. Alliance. They even nerfed pallies.

>>534853108
they're adding xfaction battlegrounds so every few matches you'll get a full team of fresh ele shamans in welfare pvp gear winning in 10 minutes

>>534853108
>New aoe shamans are getting
What

>>534846940
switching specs does not reset your level, only prestiging does

where can I see the upcoming class changes on turtle? I can't find em

>>534852261
true. i think i'm just tired of listening to doomers gossiping about everything like you said. i just wanna chill and play

>>534854257
this: https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?p=141159#p141159

>30 USD to race change
>100+ USD to get guild housing that's just a reskinned westfall house
What the fuck Turtle?

>>534853623
>they're adding xfaction battlegrounds
is this real? source?

>>534855492
Literal backport of cataslop spells

So much for hardcore classic turtle gameplay

You can turn off xmog and store mounts on Bronzebeard

This might be my new home now.

>>534853108
Just remove PvP from the game.

>>534855510
the point of guild housing on turtle is the extra hearth location. i agree though, $100 is still a bit much but it's better than $400 Shadowmournes

>>534855730
who said turtle was "hardcore classic?"
it's main selling point is the changes you mongoloid.
and how that works out in practice is 6 out of 9 classes are A- tier or better in raiding. so overall, the class changes are both working as intended and as desired by the community at large.

>>534855815
no fuck you faggot. just remove ERP from game.

Look, I just want good PvP and PvE from my MMOs. Why is this such a big ask? Many games have successfully accomplished this task. It's really not difficult. Just balance for PvP and use different modifiers of PvE. Or 1000 other solutions.

>>534834186
>its like pretending a shark is impressive because it killed a human in the water
yes? a shark is an immaculate predator.

>>534856881

>>534856004
100 rupees have been deposited to your account rajesh

>>534857362
why do you have this saved on your pc

Turtle Won

>>534855647
NTA but here

>>534857468
just report the shartranny, he doesn't play videogames.

>>534859870
>Copying Ascension once more out of desperation

They announced expanded (((glyph))) system on forums just now

LMAO

>>534860017
JUST REPO-AAACKKK!!!

I'm not sure that Epoch will manage to launch the server before the 17th.

All memes aside is turtle worth playing? No I won't be playing with /vg/

>>534861813
yeah it's good

>>534861813
It's certainly the best at "I just want to play classic but with new stuff" but does that and only that

>>534862223
Is the class meta the same?

>>534862648
There have been class updates aimed at making more specs viable. Whether the changes are good or not depends on who you talk to.

>>534855510
>picking the wrong race
>being in a guild where no one contributes to a player house
these are all skill issues. if anything you should complain about the 300 slot bag you can buy instead

some new epoch zones looks cool
they should give them to turtle
their server doesn't work anyway

>>534862648
warriors are still warrior tier but other classes got some decent changes
all changes for future patch are here
https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?p=141159#p141159

>>534866512
is feral going to be OP now?

>>534867841
Feral and elemental are surely going to be overtuned

>>534863181
High Elf is uglier than I imagined, should have rolled Human Female

>>534869601
what did you imagine? blood elves with less red on their armor?

>>534862196
imagine losing to that retard

>>534869601
yes, you should have.
>high elf is for troons
>human is for "doesn't want to stare at a man's ass" enjoyers
reroll if you're under lvl 30.

>>534867841
Yes
And they also dumbed it down with the ferocious bite rip snapshot

>>534863181
you don't need a 300 slot bag though. jealousy is an unbecoming trait. just be thankful everyone else is constantly dropping every other sort of p2convenience merchant that you can use yourself for free, thus totally negating the need for anything beyond than 4x16 bags.

seriously, bag space is the most fucking juvenile and retarded complaint on twow. and if that big of a deal, stop being a poorfag and buy the bag.

>>534870178
what does that mean?

Ok i did stratholme mythic on bronzebeard and our party got gaped many times
Its pretty hard

Pic rel, when you dont actually kick a boss cast

>>534870428
You apply rip once on pull buffed up for AP or whatever and just press ferocious bite and shred for rest of the fight cause FB refreshes rip duration

(Literal retail baby level 15 feral talent two xpacs ago called sabertooth, all ferals complained that it dumbs down the gameplay)

>>534827436
good, fuck paladins. faggot troon class played by 70% of the server

>>534870712
Maintance buffs are cancer, it was a blessing when they made SnD only need to be applied once per fight

>>534870712
oh, that's cool. sounds like that would be good for retards like me. i was already considering rolling druid on ambie, but now seriously thinking about giving it a shot. i actually played one on launch in OG niller and still had fun despite how underpowered it was.

>>534870848
you're forgetting it's also the dad gamer class (dwarf of course). you can't be so dismissive as to call all paladins troons.

ambie polls from the turtle 'cord
https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQENV7ne class poll
https://strawpoll.com/BDyNzJvB7yR race poll

>>534871110
Yes its good to not be worrying about your shit falling off, the problem is they have to balance rip for the damage it does, and turns it into some dogshit mainetance 10% damage dealt shit instead of main damage dealing mechanic.

In wotlk on patchwerk your bite would be 5-8% of damage, rest would be bleeds Shred and autoattack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJEbchVD7U

sovl

>>534873112
i am a retard, wrong thread

>>534871249
private servers attract a disproportionate amount of troons, and they flock to paladin for some reason
they even do it on classic. but mostly in my experience it's morons that want an easy ride to 60 where refreshing a blessing is asking too much for their only 2 neurons to process, or they have a chip on their shoulder (those dastardly heckin brownies forcing them to heal!!!) and out to prove themselves (usually by doing zdps or getting threat ripped off of them as a tank by a rogue in blues)

great, now every fotm reroll loser is going to be playing feral

>>534874390
shit like this just means you get less healers willing to heal shit. they all want to be fotm tank or dps

>>534874465
thats just a design flaw of original wow in general. healing is boring as shit, you get shamed for not carrying retards well enough and there isnt even a healer spec with an offensive playstyle like modern disc or mw for people not looking to fall asleep

>>534874727
some people like it (aka women). you get shamed for being low dps or being a shit tank too, that's nothing new and healers aren't special in that regard
>there isnt even a healer spec with an offensive playstyle like modern disc or mw
good. imagine having unkillable, immortal healers that also fuck your asshole in open world pvp. that shit doesn't fit at all in classic and it's aids in retail

what healer should I roll on then turtle fresh

>>534875189
priest
maybe druid
paladins don't get invited to my groups. ever.

>>534875282
That insecure? Must be a brownie

what do you guys think of the removal of war mode xp bonus, and the supposed 15-20% increase in mob hp and damage across the board
feels like leveling is gonna be significantly slower

>>534875189
Female Night Elf Druid with grey skin and green markings

>>534875536
It probably won't be a big deal for any optimized leveling builds which every veteran should be familiar with but I'm sure it'll fuck a lot of people who don't know any better or they're on priest or something

>it's the last time I give any of you losers a chance, you like to pretend you're a man oh so mysterious and wise and tough but in reality you're a pussyboy pathetic and scared of commitment
>goddess what a waste of my time that was, keep being a nobody you will die alone, virgin even
loonie troonie

>>534875536
>15-20% increase in mob hp and damage across the board
Are you kidding me. Legit don't want to play it anymore

Bronzebeard alive?

>>534875490
leave it to a fagadin to seethe about brownies when they aren't even mentioned lmao
how many more decades you got in you?

>>534876514
thats one pathetic pinky

Okay, I'm going to give turtle a try. What class is objectively the best, with the most complete PvE kit that has a spell/ability for every damage profile? I'm talking about excellent ST, 2-3 target cleave, and AoE. Is there a class on turtle that is as powerful as fury warrior is on classic?

>>534876514
I play a priest thoughbeit. But I know your kind, shitskins playing white male human warrior with helmet display on, so afraid of losing looties to a HEALER kek

>>534876703
Paladin

>>534876835
They really gave paladin cleave, ST and AoE on par with warriors?

>>534876731
sure ya do bub

>>534876916
Prot Pally outdamages most dps, that's how bad it is.

>>534876916
>all of the devs play paladin
>gee wiz the dickheads that run the server gave their class all the things/???!

>lfm dps for my dungeon
>"inv i'm dps"
>shift+click
>paladin
>"we're good on heals, thanks"

>>534877040
Yep, been my main since TBC.
>>534877412
Classic, browns asking for tanks is funny too. Think I got a screenshot somewhere of two retardins + a warrior in party finder asking for a healer and a tank for SM kek

>>534877828
At least warriors do dps. Paladins doing anything other than healing is pure distilled cringe

Do any of these people stream/have a youtube channel? I'm very interested in how warlock, mage, ele and shadow priest play on this server. Warriors/ret paladin vods would be fine too.

>>534877412
heh i do this too
the ensuing melty is always funny

https://jaapl.org/content/early/2019/05/16/JAAPL.003836-19#:~:text=Studies%20published%20between%202002%20and,followed%20by%20wildlife%20and%20exotics

Your thoughts, Sylma?

>>534877953
Yeah but damage = threat so I'd argue browns refusing to tank early level dungeons are equally retarded in a way. I don't see this problem with druids ever

>>534826558
>global nerf to rogues single target dps opn raid bosses by like 15-20%
lol

>>534867841
It will still have 0 AoE dmg making it at best a B tier dps spec, bears have been good already and will stay good while prot pallies are getting nerfed and warriors buffed

>>534878032
When you consider the sheer amount of utility and qol shit that paladins have, seeing them that high on the meters is just retarded

>>534878319
It's not though? BF is no longer a ST cooldown, to compensate, combat is going to have a lot more energy regen. More energy regen is always welcome on rogue, it's one of the best things about retail rogue is never having to wait for energy once you have heroic level gear.

>>534878032
Arcane Mage is a two button spec but somewhat fun because you have procs to react to and the damage you shit out at every gear level is ridiculous
I'm not very familiar with WLs but I guess Affli and Destro are both decent and play like you'd expect them to, according to my guildies Demo is very finnicky in terms of gear and playstyle (they basically need a 30 second pull timer or start whining)
Ret is similar to how they were in TBC sans Seal of Blood and having an alternative holy dmg Crusader Strike they use every so often to maintain a strength buff that shares CD with the usual CS that maintains a stacking Haste buff

>>534876916
No warrior mogs paladin in both single target and cleave

>>534879353
Did they give warlocks an actual AoE button? Shadow bolt volley in SoD was insanely satisfying and infinitely better than seed, shame that you had to runeswap to be able to use it.
Just to confirm, ret isn't sealtwisting like they did in TBC classic right? I would play ret instantly if they could seal twist as their main damage source.
How good is fire mage compared to arcane? Never really been a fan of arcane. Do you still need to coordinate with other mages to hold ignites or is it just apply scorch and spam fireball? I see they have hot streak but it seems like a much shittier version.

>>534876241
yeah I heavily disagree with it too
I recently leveled a new character to get back into the spirit of leveling and if they implement the change blindly its gonna make a lot of zones borderline unplayable, specially some custom mobs of theirs

>>534878319
based illiterate

>>534879851
Seal twisting is still mechanically possible, but I don't see even the best performing/tryhard Paladins doing it because you have less space for it in your rotation (Crusader Strike/Holy strike only have 6s CD, possibly 5.5 with an endgame Libram, you want to use Consecrate/Exorcism etc.)
Current Ret is in a bit of a weird position where you can either gear for Attack power/Strength and use Seal of Command or go for a lot of Spellpower and use Seal of Righteousness, the latter currently performs better, especially without Windfury Totem, but it's getting nerfed a decent bit in the next patch (less SP on Pala gear, Dragonbreath Chili scaling is cut by 2/3, 2H Crusader Strike and Seal of Righteousness get scaling nerfs)
Warlocks still suck in AoE compared to mages, you can only multidot or Hellfire, that's better than some classes but nothing like volley or seed
Fire is played way less than Arcane, from what I see in the logs its reliant on the Ignite tick and multiple people contributing to it for one guy to look good on meters, 95% of raiding mages I've seen play Arcane and only swap when necessary

>>534876241
It's actually 10-15% to some mobs, probably less than half. I still don't know if it's a good idea but people are overreacting, it's in their notes

i know theres about to be another class change patch and a fresh launch in turtle, but
right now, whats the ratio of chingchongs to regular people? i remember the skyrocketing a while ago, heard they released some chink servers but that didn't really help much, that they fumbled removing china alphabet support, how did the situation evolve over time?
ESLs, non-english speakers, jajas,slavs etc don't count, i mean only chinamen.

>>534881137
There aren't really many chinks around

>>534881137
What do you think nigga

The classic dads need their RMT gold supply
Its free money for chinkx and indians

>>534880826
Thanks for taking the time to answer that. Warlock is usually my go to but it's sad to see they still don't have any actual AoE. I imagine most trash just falls over instantly making applying dots not even worth it?
I'm looking at these affliction changes, https://turtle-wow.org/warlock this is actually insane. These are wrath level class changes. I'm sure bosses are fun but what about trash?

Queue times makes me hate playing DPS

>>534881137
On Tel'Abim it's like 60% Euros/Russians, 30% NA, 10% rest of the world, maybe a bit more Oceania/Asia, its decently active most of the time, but hits the highest player count during EU prime time
I haven't seen any chingchong in chat, but like three of our raidmembers are Chinese, one lives in the EU and speaks good English, the others only the basics in chat

>>534881137
in nord at least theres no chinks, lots of retarded russians though which are worse in many ways

>>534872704
It figures that Paladin, Druid, and Shaman would be the top 3 since they can fulfill almost any role.

>>534881663
I haven't played WL myself, Affli Warlocks seem to be happy with their spec overall, I think haste speeds up their DoTs duration/tickspeed which probably makes them better for trash
Looking at our logs they're best at fights with like 2-3 targets up most of the time, worse than Arcane in Single Target or AoE though, though pretty much every spec is weaker than Arcane without WF/full melee support

so why did she quit?