Thread 534820194

TBC with #somechanges waiting room edition

Devs confirming they're open to making changes if the community wants it: youtu.be/sNebf7w4N50?si=yfTPeWqN7azMNL8O&t=1074

Getting rid of the 6 shaman meta is a good thing. No one wants to heal on a shaman with no GDKPs. Also GDKPs should be brought back now that people realize RMT is just as bad.

>>534820194 (OP)
kek, they're doubling down on MoP

>mop
>without tot or timeless

polish spammer/failed male/samefag one note ESL spammie tells (Also applies to /wowg/ now):

>"Alex"
>dance
>bark
>"on strings"/"puppet
>"insta reply insta seethe"
>has a semantic field of around 100 words
>cant string a coherent sentence together unless it involves a lolcow/streamer/random namefag, or the same canned gibberish he spams
>posts about "Alex" that get 10 (You)s on reply cooldown
>"pumps" "pvmp" "we are in here [twitch link]"
>AI slop night elves (OPs and random jpgs) all slide posts
>feverishly (You's) any game discussion to tell you [expansion is bad] (will pivot in any direction to FUD, just wants people to not play anything)
>permanent thread uptime
>tranime pedophile
>endlessly talks about retail more than classic wow
>[x lost/won] (useless slidepost to keep this dead shit off page 10)
>will immediately defend himself when called out and is incapable of ignoring you
>will try to gaslight/obfuscate (what how he recoils! I've been found out!)
>samefag accusations anytime two or more disagree with him

>>534820891
will there be no TI? It's my first time hearing about it

>>534820194 (OP)
Forgot to mention, Gamescom in 8 days. Will most likely just be a panel for the next retail expansion but there might be something for us ClassicChads.
We must WILL Titanforged realms into existence. China being the only region to get it is shit.

>>534820934
gonna be a whole entire year of this like they did with cata too

>>534821414
>We must WILL Titanforged realms into existence. China being the only region to get it is shit.
This

>>534821414
>"I want to run MC and BWL and AQ40 and Naxx"
>but in anniversary you ca-
>"NO!"

>>534821567
As well as all of the TBC and WoTLK raids and dungeons. Not to mention WOTLK being the baseline for class balancing.
Stop being disingenuous.

>>534821567
no one wants to run MC and BWL anymore. raiding is dead on anniversary too. we want all raids scaled, so that we can choose. simple as.

>Look up what the fuck is Titan forged realms
>"Titan Forged Realms mix Classic, TBC, and WotLK content with level 80 progression."
This is what retail does lol. once again you lil tards just want more retail features into classic

>>534821776
People want the good parts of the game put into a setting that's familiar and nostalgic. How is this hard to understand?

>>534821698
>I wanna run MC and Gruul's lair but with no effort whatsoever because of how overtuned classes and items are in wrath
ah so you just want the brainless content to be even more brainless so that you can bypass the difficulty of raids like SSC and TK lol

>taking the filter out of the filtering crusade
not much of a crusade at that point. may as well just play modern wow where you can 1 shot everything in ssc and tk

>>534821917
No, if you read the announcement, they're scaling up and changing bosses/mechanics to fit WOTLK class balancing. Expect much longer fights that won't fall over in 30 seconds.

>>534821894
>We love ulduar, we want it to run along with other raids too
>*3 months later*
>I don't want Ulduar anymore...
you really think people wanna run more than 2 raids for months, I have TERRIBLE news to tell you

mop seems especially transparent in its want to waste as much of the players time as possible to burn sub time

obviously we know that's always one of blizzard's implicit goals with WoW in general but its especially tiresome in mists of pander-to-china

>>534822121
Raids aren't out like that. They're in a rotation much like fated raids during Shadowlands. Some info if you want to educate yourself.
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/fated-raid-affixes-shadowlands-season-4

>>534822092
>blizzard
>doing scaling properly
Anon I...

>>534821776
wouldn't know because i'm not trans.
but regardless, i don't want to have 20 spells that do the same thing as a rogue.

>>534822273
It's China/Netease doing all of the heavy lifting this time. Maybe the Chinos can get it right and Blizzard NA can just copy it.

>>534822238
>Surely it'd be just like Shadowlands
anon i...

>>534822389
I can't believe blizzard is just letting netease dick around with their game

sometimes they're stupid like a fox

>We wanna play on wrath again
that's strange, when wrath was out everyone here hated it and wanted to go back to 'nilla

Man I am so glad we got GDKP banned for the far superior soft reserve loot system.
It's so fun to go to Onyxia every reset for 6 months and lose your item to fresh green geared priests repeatedly every time it finally decides to drop because you are incapable of rolling higher than a 20 every time.
Fucking awesome job guys, classic is saved. The economy is fixed. Noone buys gold anymore. We did it reddit.

>>534822568
Netease has done some pretty interesting things for their players. They had world buffs drop on a timer for a week during vanilla, they gave everyone that killed 4H a free BoP flask during that same week.
I don't think there's anything wrong with copying the chinese. If anything happens that blizzard doesn't like, they can just pull out of china like they did last time. They'll lose another statue but netease will always come crawling back.

>>534822707
>classicbabs asked for a change they thought they wanted

>>534823075
My guild wonders why I skip the 40man raid nights where they must use SR due to too low guild signups.
I joined a AQ20 half guild half pug run yesterday and rolled both fucking 2s on the head to show why. Just a fucking joke, how can someone prefer this. GDKP had faults, but this soft reserve shit is uttery atrocious in comparison.
Softreserve is what I imagine videogame communism is like. So no wonder retards on reddit loved the idea of banning gdkp for it.

>>534823014
it's just the first time I've even heard of a Chinese publisher making material gameplay changes to a western title that they bought out. Seems like usually their value prop is just "we'll sell your game to Chinese players for you."

but yeah no I mean if their changes are good then absolutely bring it over. It's more that I'm almost suprised Netease even has game designers on their staff.

>>534823428
>due to too low guild signups.
OH NO NO NO, WHAT HAPPENED? I thought 'niller was the best thing ever?!

>>534823672
>>but yeah no I mean if their changes are good then absolutely bring it over.
You know what I think it is? They don't have a minority of vocal #nochanges players. WoW didn't officially launch in China until late TBC so no one over there has nostalgia for early vanilla. No mysterymeat streamers advocating for things to stay the exact same while experiencing cognitive dissonance while playing a completely different version of the same game.

>>534823014
>>534824168
>changes like this would be nice
it won't happen lmao. Not because blizzard doesn't want to, but because of the players
many people loathed the idea of dual spec
you saw what happened when they "accidentaly" enabled the alliance version of WCB. all the era junkies went up in arms instantly against it
they simply asked for it, now live with it, or take it to them

>>534824091
Summer holidays, it's a full guild run this week thankfully.

>>534824372
>you saw what happened when they "accidentaly" enabled the alliance version of WCB. all the era junkies went up in arms instantly against it
Those same era junkies are playing anniversary and singing praises about the no debuff/buff limit, and dual spec being in.

>>534824452
>its the holidays
those "holidays" started in early july lol

>>534824652
Did you forget about the official TBC twenty twenty one (2021) treaty about how the game should remain in its "original" state of the TBC prepatch for era, henceforth making the chronoboon a valid feature to stay in era forever, along with the debuff limit removed
Not to mention, I know dual specs are worse, but it could be worse, it could be Hitler annexing poland and no one batting an eye! (real niller quote)

Give me one reason why debuff limit is good

>>534824957
Leave Blake alone!

>>534824091
fuck off and kill yourself, troon

>>534821139
do you not realize how mentally ill it looks to post this at the top of every thread for the past year?

>>534825209
>uncalled tantrum out of nowhere
sorry nillerbro, maybe try a more engaging game

>>534825240
Realistically, what can you do? say mean words? ooohhh

>>534825475
yea, and point out how this poster is clearly more deranged/obsessed than what he is trying to make fun of

>>534825695
Anyways

>Future ret paladin main for TBC
>Have 9K gold banked
>Have 1-325 blacksmithing banked
>Have 1-300 enchanting banked
>Have 1-300 engineering banked
>Have 2 weeks of PTO
What else should I prepare? If they don't offer paid subscriptions, I'm going to have to level up manually. I guess some good weapons since they're so cheap right now?
Once I hit 60 during the pre-patch, I'm just going to live in battlegrounds for free R14 gear anyway...

>>534826027
this pre-planning will really pay off in 5 months!

>>534826027
paid boosts*

>Vanilla is already on abandonware stages and Naxx isn't even out yet
>Thinking that TBC will be any different from it

>>534826676
Good. I can't wait for the era resurgence and all the anniv shitters to fuck off to tbc.

>>534827276
>era resurgence
the massive 10k total players worldwide?

>>534827393
Less players = better quality.
The amount of shitters you encounter on anniv is genuinely staggering.
I had to block more people on anniv in 1 month than I did in 2 years of playing Era.

>>534826676
they made the phases way too slow imo. no one in 2025 wants to sit around waiting for months for the next raid to unlock.

some people are of course saying that the phases are too fast though and do not leave enough time to gear up with weekly lockouts. they need to seriously rethink how they do time gating for future freshes.

>>534823428
what loot system would you prefer?

>>534828627
A fair LC is the only one that makes sense but you won't find those outside of strict speedrunning guilds.

>>534820194 (OP)
Reminder MoP changes were trash

>>534828938
>A fair LC
kek
funny you mention this when that other anon said sr is like communism when LC inherits the same traits of communism where its "good when done right" while literally never being "done right" ever

>ALL versions of wow are flopping
>Runescape having a renaissance

you already posted that

>>534829548
It is done right, in high end speedrunning guilds.

>>534829598
dat insta indirect seethe doe

>>534827276
unfortunately, even as a classic lover, era makes zero sense once naxx comes out. what's the point?

yeah I quit mop
zero pugs
200 thousand south americans

>>534830863
It's your fault if you can't see the point in playing with mentally unstable losers who are stuck playing the same game from 2020.

>>534829548
>>534829859
it's always abused to give gear to the longest-tenured brown members and brown officers. RNG is the most fair loot system there is.

Only Titanforged servers can save Classic

>>534831121
This but without the ironic shitpost behind it.

>>534831203
this
>wrath talents
>no WBs
>TBC raids in wrath
if blizzard doesn't give it to us, it's directly a consequence of us voting for drumpf

>>534831121
>*forged servers can save *
Blizzard are NOT saving a DAMN THANG

>>534831016
Yeah, it's depressing. It well and truly is over for the blizzy bois.

MOP SISSIES

OH NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you already posted that

>>534831916
I think I've seen this exact post before...

>>534831753
good, now blizzard has to confront reality and get rid of the roaches from asia and latin america

>>534832405
Then there will be no one left

>>534822137
I do this and make fun of the retard for paying $45 a month

>>534822137
Foreigner insults are the funniest shit

>>534832928
No one doing this is paying any amount of actual money. They use stolen credit cards, and then buy gametime for pennies on the dollar or abuse exchanges rates for cheaper gametime.

>>534827649
>less players is better
so MoP is thriving now by your logic

MoP is a furry sissy xpac

>>534827745
>phases are even faster than originally
>"STILL TOO SLOW, FASTER"
>*they become faster*
>no one does any raid because the next tier will be out by now
You think you do but you don't

>>534822707
Banning gdkp was always the stupidest shit. It's just cope from casuals who thought that surely they'd have the best gear if it wasn't for those awful gold buyers.

>>534833635
No, it just needs to be accompanied by strict RMT policing.

I just realized, we're 9 months into anniversary realms and we're about a quarter of the way through. If TBC launches in another 3 months, it'll most likely be expedited as well. That gives them a very real timeline for Wrath to launch early 2027 where they expedite that to to release Classic+.

>>534833862
this. any GDKPs I did were half indo gold seller mages and half people who buy gold to bid 50k on an epic belt.

>>534833917
They're not waiting that long for a FOMO pump bro

>>534822707
Except that could still happen with GDKP you stupid faggot. Make a raid yourself and reserve the item. You wont because your a retarded heal sissy.

>>534822707
personal loot fixed this

>>534834603
>DO YOU NEEEEEEEEEEEEED

>>534834603
Not as long as it's tradable it didn't

>>534834807
>>534834975
*Doesn't trade it*
Wow that was hard

>>534833862
No it doesn't, all of the money spent by the gold buyers is distributed to the raid so everyone ends up with enough money to buy gear. Just like with every other lot system, if you put in the time, you'll get the gear. I've never bought gold in my life and I nearly ended up with a thoridal as a warrior at the end of TBC.

>>534835224
And you only raided one one character right? No multiple alts to split farm gold for you so you can stack one character, yup no way you're not lying!

>>534834807
>>534834975
*ignore the chimp screeching at me to trade it*

>>534835450
The chimp GM?

>>534835707
Yeah, most guilds demanded you trade the loot so they could redistribute it. It unironically didn't fix anything. I played a frost DK in Eternal Palace, saw 3 trials get the axe from the second to last boss before I did and I was raiding with them for years. Personal loot is an awful system.

>>534835707
>>534836056
>being in a guild that does this
you played yourself

>>534836056
>gets BiS item
>"erhmm please trade those robes to Mageysfrost, they won the roll fair and square"
this is why i hate guilds and 90% of the time just play solo

>>534836169
It wasn't a bad thing for me, I always got loot. I just couldn't get a weapon because others would RNG to the shit that I need and couldn't trade it.

>>534836316
Guilds always have bad names, 0 people worth talking to, and this shit. I sleep.

>>534830863
Parsing and autistically minmaxing every bit of damage to beat everyone on the logs and set records.
Half the reason to play anniversary is for the chance blizzard lets you clone to era before tbc so you can take the undead slaying set and stones which are needed to make new 100 parses on some naxx bosses, cause it's literally impossible to beat some era naxx parses without items that havent' been obtainable for 6 years now.

>>534833379
MoP is just shit by default.
Classic has always been good.
Anniversary is just full of retarded normies and dad gamers, once they filter out to TBC and the gamers come back to Era, the server will be good again.

>>534836619
>Parsing and autistically minmaxing every bit of damage to beat everyone on the logs and set records.
People are cheating so there's no real reason to even do this.

>>534836619
i'm a high purple parser in shadowcraft and even i think the parse shit is out of hand. so tired of WBs and consumes. it just feels brown.

>4 days since alex last uploaded on his self-improvement slop channel
>he's clearing frothing and desperately trying to control himself from playing 'nilla, talking about epoch

only a matter of time until he relapses. Wonder what type of arc we'll get this time. Will he try and do another "positivity" wow stream? Or will he go hard on attacking streamers?
Reminder that Alex has accurately clocked every single streamer and private server, he's just also a schizo so it never holds any weight. It's probably part of why he's so mentally ill, he somehow can tell when something is bad news despite himself being manic and insane.

>>534836619
Vanilla parsing is strictly tied to your credit card or autism to farm gold. No one gives a shit.

>>534836927
It's fun on era because gdkp funds your consumes and you dont have to farm shitty dungeons hours on end burning you out of playing.
>>534836927
Proof please. The best players on era upload their vods and they don't cheat in them.

Should I start a fresh character on anniv and get it to 60? Feels a lot more appealing than playing retail right now.

>>534837195
Some of the "best" warriors are using AHK to permanently spam HS.

>>534837361
You can just bind HS to mousewheel to do the same shit dude. Autohotkey doesn't bypass swingtimers.

>>534837521
>Get shown explicit proof that people are using 3rd party programs to cheat
>It doesn't count
Can't argue with you people, you were never willing to concede a point anyway.

>>534837195
good point about GDKP paying for consumes, i might play era again. i wish it had token though.

>>534837659
Cause it isn't cheating if you can do the same exact shit through a normal keybind and it have no difference in performance.
I have pink parses on almost every boss on Era, and i've never once used AHK. If anything people are retarded to use it for risking a ban if the pajeet working on classic decides to outlaw it.

>>534837928
>Cause it isn't cheating
>If anything people are retarded to use it for risking a ban
So is it cheating or not?

>>534838050
Learn to finish reading full sentences will you.
No it's not cheating, and yes people are still retarded to use AHK anyway.

>>534838441
Cool, so why is he resorting to using AHK instead of scroll wheeling?

>>534838050
Depends. Ahk is often detected and banned, I play multiple games where ahk users get banned, it's a dice roll essentially whether blizzard can detect it (or if they even care lmao)

imagine having to cheat to parse XD

>>534839264
Because he's a fucking shitter dude. It's that simple.
I parse 1.2k dps in naxx without using that shit program with no issues.

>>534839567
It's not cheating because the anon above said so. It's just making something that the guy would've already been doing slightly easier and allow him to exert less effort to maximize his DPS. It's not cheating though, okay?

Parsing is mental illness. If the boss died you won.

^boosted slob

>>534839264
Look this shit. 1.5k DPS is nothing. It's only 100% parse because its hardcore server.
https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/defias-pillager/baldnfat
https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/bloodsail-buccaneers/baldnfat

Can assume the bloodsail buccaneers character is the same player. His parses are SHIT.
He's a shitter.

>BIG NUMBER VERY GOOD!!!
parsing is peak bugman chinkoid behavior

>>534840071
>t. green parsing nigger who kills lowbies in level 20 zones.

>>534839962
>Looking at the wrong logs
Maddone look at Nightslayer.

>>534840165
i'm a 99'er

>>534840194
Ok, I still know people better than this who don't use ahk.
Getting 99s before people get naxx gear is incredibly easy.

Should I play anniv or era? I just want to level a warrior to 60.

>>534840891
Play anniv. Despite the shit player quality there, at least you will find dungeon groups. The only people playing era while anniv is out are boosters, parsers and griefers.

Which wow cinematic is the most kino?

>>534836876
>this is why this game is good but it needs some very precises parameters for it to work
Hmm

>>534841585
There's no parameters. Mop is shit. Anniversary is full of normies and tourists. Era is played by people who are actually good at the game.

>>534841403
the 2001 gameplay cinematic

>>534821139
good to know

>>534840891
No one plays era when there is anni as an option. Dont listen to negative comments for anni, it is "The" vanilla server out there atm.

There are some haters who somehow got invited to top guilds and got kicked out for not performing and now are butthurt.

These retards that dont want to parse but want to be in top guilds are hilarious. Its obvious they lied on the cv to get in.

>>534841860
I'm glad you agree that BfA is the most kino one, anon

>>534841904
no one wants to parse. there's just no alternative. blizzard encourages this chink behavior.

>>534840891
There's no reason to play Era right now when Anni exists. Those anni characters will be able to be ported over to era at the end anyway.

>>534841585
This is the mental illness SoD-loving devs run on

>>534842123
No they wont, they are not the same game.

>>534842101
This/!/

>>534842278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84gj4mdiyhk
Yes they are, you can already transfer to Era through a bug. The framework is already there.

>>534842101
How do you get invited to these guilds if you want to be a shitter? Please explain that phenomena

The fuck is era and anniversary servers?

>>534842428
stop inventing things

>>534841904
I want to parse, but i'm also not interested in slaving Stratholme or Dire Maul East to afford 1000g in warrior consumes every week, but i'm also not interested in getting banned for buying gold. I get away with slacking cause I do tanking assignments though lol.

>>534842656
It's already proven. I'm in the same discord as the guy, he was able to transfer with a paid boost. It's obviously a bug but he was able to do it and that's what counts. Also, you're not moving the character during the character copy. Blizzard is snapshotting your character on a certain date and then they completely remake that character on the Era server you choose.

>>534842841
>its proven
>its a bug
>its not official
>blizz has to mindmeld

>>534841784
>Era is played by people who are actually good at the game.
https://streamable.com/phmm9k

>>534842657
What do you have to do in strat or dm that gets you gold? Boosting?

>>534835350
I raided on two characters, but I bought gear for both. Both had full bis by the end of vanilla and TBC. Even if I was raiding on several more characters so I could have bought the thoridal, that's just putting in the time to get the loot. In SOD post-ban I was raiding on half a dozen warriors and the "main" was whichever happened to be the best geared at the time.

>>534843635
>Even if I was raiding on several more characters so I could have bought the thoridal, that's just putting in the time to get the loot
And the guy putting in an extra hour at his job to buy $45 worth of gold is doing the same, right?

>>534843250
lol I play with him regularly on era, he is a good pumper, but he also gets killed so stupidly.
Last week he died to skitters before Faerlina cause he AOE taunted without lip cooldown ready (Sperged and used a MRP on anub).
>>534843419
Righteous orbs mainly. But they aren't even that valuable, only 50g each right now on spineshitter.
In dire maul you farm herbs, mine the rich thorium veins for arcane crystals, and hope for good class books in the dusty tomes.

>>534843635
>In SOD post-ban I was raiding on half a dozen warriors and the "main" was whichever happened to be the best geared at the time.
What, I say, what in the good gravy?

>>534843853
He's the one funding my consumes so I don't have to nolife like the shitters that get upset about GDKP but still want to chase 99s.

>>534844220
But can you understand how RMT policing can lead to a situation where people that don't run GDKPs don't get fucked by horribly overpriced consumes due to the amount of RMT generated gold?

>>534843943
If warrior has a million fans, then I am one of them.
If warrior has ten fans, then I am one of them.
If warrior has only one fan then that is me.
If warrior has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth.
If the world is against warriors, then I am against the world.

>>534844439
No, because consumable prices didn't go down after banning gdkps because banning gdkps does nothing to stop people from buying gold.

>>534844683
it only encourages gold buying because despite the reddit opinion of "farming is the soul of classic", most people playing this game are 25+ years old and dont have time to farm shit anymore.

>>534844683
So if you understand that banning GDKPs did nothing to stop gold buying thus causing inflation, why are you against RMT policing?

cloud serpents look like shit

FASHY AND FRESH UNTIL I DIE

>>534845323
Was never a big fan, but then again I don't much like drakes either. The best mount is probably the engi rocket

>>534844849
I'm not, I think you have me confused with someone else. I'm against banning GDKPs because it's a pointless cope that does nothing to solve any problem. I don't really have an opinion on RMT, on the one hand some people get fucked by it but on the other hand inflation greatly reduces fixed costs like mount training and repairs so I personally benefit from it. Regardless, if the goal is to reduce botting and RMT, policy changes should target botting and RMT, not things that aren't botting or RMT.

>>534845539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ1XwGDcA4&t=51s

>>534845793

Is this not you? >>534835224
>No, it just needs to be accompanied by strict RMT policing.
>No it doesn't, all of the money spent by the gold buyers is distributed to the raid so everyone ends up with enough money to buy gear. Just like with every other lot system, if you put in the time, you'll get the gear.

How do people play anything other than mage in classic? I've seen how other classes have to waste countless hours travelling, teleporting is OP af in classic

>>534846176
Try playing a mage in any raid group. It's a 1 button spam class for half of vanilla. It only gets fun in AQ40 but even then you only bring 3-4 in good groups and your damage depends on how good your mage team is able to communicate with some RNG sprinkled in.

>>534846176
because you can just pay those mages for the same ports and play a class thats actually fun

>>534844849
Literally who cares about gold buyers. It's like the classic boogeyman.
Oh noo the goldbuyer bought my bis item for 100k gold, I now get 5k gold cut from the pot and next week I get it for 20k minbid.
vs
Oh great the shitter green geared priest won the t2 halo that i've been waiting 6 months to get because I can't roll higher than a 10 ever.

And sure you can make the argument of the unlikely scenario, there is a gold buyer every single week cucking you. But you still get something for your time at the end of the gdkp regardless vs SR where you get fuck all except a new repair bill.

>>534846716
lol

>>534846716
>Literally who cares about gold buyers. It's like the classic boogeyman.
The people who don't join GDKPs care and get screwed. When everyone doing GDKP has 20K gold to spend, consumable prices skyrocket making it so unless you do GDKPs, you're just constantly priced out. You're either forced to do GDKPs, swipe for gold or handfarm X amount of hours which no one wants to do. This is one of the reasons why Blizzard removed GDKPs.
However, GDKPs were never the issue, it's them not policing RMTers. In an ideal system, consumes would never reach the point where they're at now and it's largely because of unchecked RMT.

>>534847036
Anniversary has literally proven that the economy will be fucked and goldbuyers will exist even without gdkp.

ALL THESE GDKP BEGGARS IN THE THREAD

IS REDDIT HERE ?

fuck you its never coming back you fucking economy ruining jeets

>>534846028
That's me, you're just reading too much into my post. I'm not against policing RMT, I'm just saying that it doesn't *need* to be policed in order for GDKP to exist. You're going through the same reddit cope line of reasoning as all the other NPCs:
>GDKP is keeping me from getting gear!
>Okay, I can just not join GDKPs, but they're making my consumes too expensive!
>Okay, GDKPs are banned and consumes are still expensive, but it's still the GDKPs fault!
The fact of the matter is that GDKP is not and has never been the problem. GDKP does not exacerbate the RMT/botting problem, the RMT/botting problem exists entirely on its own.

>>534847147
Motherfucker did you even read what I typed out. YES, unless they do something about RMTers, removing or leaving GDKPs in changes nothing. This is what this whole fucking conversation is about.

>>534847036
>This is one of the reasons why Blizzard removed GDKPs.
>However, GDKPs were never the issue
Imagine actually typing this without a hint of irony.

>>534847252
GDKP absolutely exacerbates the RMT problem. People buy gold because they have things to buy, the main ones being their mount then profession and then finally consumables to raid with.
Now throw in 250K gold Gressils and tell me that doesn't exacerbate the issue of people buying gold so they can compete with other whales.

>>534846716
Like you dont have loot council and the newby in greens has prio over you. Stfu plz

>>534847569
I can't change what I typed but I meant to say not the main issue. GDKP RMT is a symptom, RMT is the root.

>>534847683
I have to pug the shitty onys now because the guild outgeared the raid and stopped doing them. You still need 8/8 t2 on priest for bis sapphiron healing.

>>534847593
Have the price of your consumes gone down since GDKPs were banned? No? Then why do you care who gets loot in someone else's raid?

>oldest mail about to expire
le sigh

>>534847924
Your guild doesnt know about this essential priest problem? Isnt onyxia a 15min raid?

>>534848074
Yeah it is. Doesn't matter if it is when none of the warriors want to go anymore cause they rank 14 and have all bags.

>ahk is not actually cheating
>gold buying is actually good
>all the good wow players are on era

>>534847996
Gdkp is dead and gold buyers are next, faggit

>>534847996
I don't give a shit about which whale gets loot. I care about the effects of a whale war where they're incentivized to buy gold so they can compete. It creates a massive market for additional gold buying which in turn creates inflation.
Couple this with jews cornering markets and you get a consumable crisis where if you don't GDKP you just can't afford to raid.
In the end, nothing changes as proven by GDKPs being banned. The root of the issue is Blizzard not policing RMT.

>>534848185
Do you have four friends? Just go kill her. She's worth like 500g, it's easy money to kill her in a small group.

>>534845595
I just think cloud serpents look too small and also too stiff. It seems like their front legs don't move at all through their animation cycle.

I get why you don't like drakes but I don't think they're relatively as bad

>>534848502
>gold buyers are next
Inshallah brother.

>>534848537
>In the end, nothing changes as proven by GDKPs being banned. The root of the issue is Blizzard not policing RMT.
How can you recognize this and still claim that GDKPs are part of the problem? The problem is gold buyers, and people will buy gold regardless of whether they're spending it on loot or consumables.

>>534848492
Truth hurts. Cope.

>>534848774
You cant have gold buyers And gdkp, its better with only one, best without either

MOP won bigly

BACK TO REBBIT

>>534849227
>Still unable to come up with any reason GDKPs would make his own gaming experience worse, other than seething because other people have better gear

>>534849302
Yeah because celestials will rain down welfare epics like msv

>>534849805
Cant hear you and neither can blizz

>>534849805
Because it doesn't change anything. If GDKPs existed, I'd have to level a second character to take to GDKPs so I can pay for consumes while I raid on my main in a LC guild.
Without GDKPs, I have to either waste my time farming gold or swipe.
Both sound miserable and I choose to do neither hence why I'm not playing anniversary or Era. TBC and WoTLK with GDKPs are acceptable because there aren't 30 different types of consumables that are also hardcamped by third worlders, it's just a handful.
I want to raid with my LC guild, get fed all of the gear through sheer performance, buy all of my consumables through gold generated from raid drops and log off. You can't do this with GDKP in the game and you can't do this with RMTers in the game.

pathetic shameless futile samefagging

SoD was the best version of the game because parsing didn't matter much

>GDKP is bad
>Softreserve is good
>Meanwhile Iranis are selling hardreserves for gold instead
I fucking hate idiot redditors who got gdkp banned.

>>534850842
It also helped that consumable scarcity wasn't a thing. Double procs for elixirs, potions and flasks, double to quadruple yield in herbs and mining nodes. It's literally all they need to do to get rid of the third world menace. No one likes vanilla more than third worlders. There are tons of different consumes to corner the markets on and they know people will go out of their way to spend money on them.

>>534850212
>TBC and WoTLK with GDKPs are acceptable because there aren't 30 different types of consumables that are also hardcamped by third worlders, it's just a handful.
This is why buffcap and wbuffs were based. Retards complained because they were too stupid to plan out their temporary buffs, but if you knew what you were doing you could replace all of your consume farming with a single 20 minute buff run.

>>534850842
it also hard filtered the bad nillers because boss fights had more than 1 mechanic you couldnt skip with world buffs

>>534851761
I'd rather not play another version of WoW where my enjoyment of the game was completely gone after I lost my world buffs.

Next vanilla fresh they need to remove wbuffs

>>534851093
I can only assume it's deliberate by them nerfing spawn rates in MoP when everyone was gathering alongside them without issue.

>>534852085
turtle fixed this
(new fresh next week)

>>534852085
for what actual purpose??

>>534852839
>buttsex worship required

>>534853239
To hurt your parsies

>>534853239
Noone would play or want to raid except boomers who unironically enjoy 2 hour demonic molten core runs with 10+ wipes and 2 repair bots used.

For those of you still playing anniversary realms. Do you guys like the guild you're in? What's your sole motivator to continue raiding? Do you consider those people friends or just temporary acquaintances that you'll probably lose contact with after TBC launches? After my guild died in TBC, everyone pretty much disappeared, even on Discord. Of the 10 people I used to constantly talk to and sit in discord with all day everyday, none of them are playing WoW at all.
Are your experiences any different?

>>534854025
Damn wbuffs do all that?
All of a sudden you are playing retail mechanics

>>534854781
lmao nerd

>all the booty bay guards are drunk and asleep during 4th july
Bravo blizzard

Next vanilla fresh they need to remove wbuffs and ban addons

Call it Season of Redditor purge

>>534855521
>ban addons
STFU Gummy.

Season of "i value my time"

>>534851979
Have you considered not being bad?

WoW classic with only new players/accounts, no oldfags allowed. Truly the only fresh experience

>>534855961
>Hunter overpulls during a speedrun, pulls 4 gargoyles instead of 2
>Raid wipes
>Forced to do the rest of the raid without buffs
Yeah, I'll stop being bad.

>>534855521
Reddit hates wbuffs. They want everyone to suffer through two day MCs just like they did in their childhood.

>>534855521
>and ban addons
Wait, what? Third party addons are better than any blizz versions they bake in. Maybe you just want the DBM functionality removed or something?

>>534856062
There are none. The ``newfags'' are literally just retail transplants. You can tell from their playstyle, and selfishness.

>tfw already spent 2.2k gold for my alt warlocks professions
wish Engie and tailor was not needed for pvp

mop is now proven to be midwit nostalgia, gamescom is just gonna be more retail stuff (no idea why - literally nobody plays it or has played it for years but I guess the whales keep it going).

>>534856092
It's easily possible to kill 4 gargoyles with a buffed raid. What you're arguing in favor of is exactly the same thing as a wbuffed raid that wipes on the first pull and has to suffer through the entire rest of the raid with constant deaths, waiting for rezzes, rebuffs, and repopping 30 consumes. What I'm arguing for is a casual 2 hour naxx clear and then bottling your buffs for next week.

>>534856340
They bake in atlasloot, retail AH and energy watch for rogues/druids, thats it

>release fresh without world buffs, everyone will love it
niggas ITT forgot or are too new to remember that SoM did that exactly and it died in less than a month lol

I have WoD nostalgia, my first wow experience...

>>534856741
Was that the server that released 3 months into TBC?

>>534856741
I knew nothing about that. The reason SoM died is the same reason I stopped playing it, a patch came out for the first servers.

>>534856741
SoM was some meme server, this will be true niller

>I hate how weak my character is after losing buffs so they should just make it so there are no buffs and my character is weak and boring all the time
The only changes that need to be made to wbuffs is to make them not dispellable and to add a highlord's blessing in SW.

>>534857578
Oh, and do something about the cooldowns. Making it a 10 minute CD with a visible timer and an "are you sure?" if it's currently on cooldown would be best, but simply removing it would be fine.

Chronoboon cryboom

>>534857120
>SoM fags trying to not bring up TBC as an excuse of why it failed challenge: impossible
And btw it was 6 months lil fag, but if a game is too good people would pick it over the other
ALAS

>>534858656
Was it 6 months? So you're saying even with SSC/TK filtering the dads, they still all chose not to go to SoM. Powerful stuff.

Alexensual runs this general and website

>>534858938
It's just Diddy-I mean Alex, now.

thing we will get a bonus honor and exp event soon?

>>534859195
Maybe with bugraids? Depends how dead we're talking

Say it with me now. Titanforged. Realm.

What is titanforged?

>>534859830
https://wowvendor.com/media/wow-classic-tbc-woltk-vanilla/titan-reforged-realms/#titan-forged-realms-in-us-and-eu

>>534859697
Titanforged Realm

>>534859971
Buy fresh classic gold riddled everywhere

Wth did i just click

This is the dumbest chinese shit ever, what the fuck my guy, oh you are indian ok

>>534861102
stfu schizo because i send the men in black after you

>>534861175
The bug brain of the chinaman is something to behold, they love this type of random ass shit.

Its scary that a white person finds this interesting

>>534861102
>Play something new that's also fresh for a few months
>Don't play at all because MoP is a flop and anniversary realms are being used as job opportunities by third worlders
I dunno man, seems like an extremely easy choice.

What classes are we thinking for white titanforged lads?

>>534861913
This is the type of shit that you dont play out of principal. But you do you

>>534858821
The dadgamers DID migrate to SoM, and then dropped off a month later for some mysterious reason

>>534862232
What principals are you defending?

>>534855961
>be tank that doesnt get healed
>now i have to hold threat against warriors who did get healed

>>534862823
Not being a cuck

>>534862780
Because Blizzard swapped wbuff autism for even worse autism: consumable stacking. Consumable stacking takes even longer than getting wbuffs.

>>534862995
why didnt people just clear the raids without them?

>>534861348
>the best version of WoW
>combined with the 2nd and 3rd best versions of WoW
you're really shocked that an aryan bvll would find this type of server awesome?

>>534863318
Because they made the raids much harder.

>>534862995
i think blizz learned from this.

>>534859971
>Author: Redsnapper
Oh, very tasty

>>534863435
>baron has two bombs now instead of one
i fail to see any alleged spike in difficulty here, anon

>>534863406
Here is a white mans take in titanforged for ya:

You are capped at 60 its vanilla and they open up tbc and wotlk content while the gameplay is still vanilla.

The problem with bugbrain titanforged is that wolk gameplay is retail, and having that as a base is cancer.

>>534863831
I don't know if I agree with that entirely, but yes it's the fucking with classes that blows

>>534863616
SoM was more than just MC. Check BWL and AQ40 changes.

>>534863831
WotLK is not retail. Cata is 100% retail. WotLK still had some semblance of sovl.

>>534864262
>every single boss has one(1) additional mechanic
>this filtered all the classic dads
Very telling

>>534865001
You're ignoring the significant HP boosts on all mobs and bosses inside raids. Coupled with the additional mechanics and lack of wbuffs, I'm sure you can see why a population of dad gamers who just want to kill bosses and drink a couple of beers would quit.

>>534864849
Yes i agree it had something but you can feel the difference when tbc prepatch hits, and wotlk is 3x that in the least

>>534865276
SoM was marketed for nolife parsers as a more challenging vanilla experience, i doubt dads played it at all.

Turns out parsers just want to do speedruns, and not challenging mechanics

>>534865724
Dads were all on TBC

>>534865724
Turns out wbuffs make the game fun. When warriors scale directly through crit, playing without crit feels like you're afk half the time. Mages without crit never get to roll fat ignites so you just spam fireball 24/7 instead of carefully planning CDs and trinkets.

I would roll on SoM right now ngl lads

>>534866015
They will never make a mistake like SoM again. Expect Classic+ to have permanent wbuffs like vantus runes in Legion, no-CD wbuffs items like in SoD or wbuffs baked into gear like later expansions.

>>534866015
Same, fresh anything really. That isn't a SoD-like, that is.

Imagine ragnaros but with 2 maces. Or the 4 horseman fight with a 5th horseman instead. That's Classic Plus. And we need it pronto

>>534866331
good. WBs and consumes are extremely autistic. i'm not going to treat raiding like a full-time job ever again.

>>534866618
>5th horsemen
Why does he keep yelling GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED GET FUCKED?

>>534852839
>insta sneed reply
bolumes

>>534866618
horsePEOPLE, you chud

>>534865724
turns out people are only good at vanilla when they have practiced it for 20 years. throw any wrench into that equation and they fumble like stack of cards unable to adapt to the slightest change

>>534866937
literally SoD gnomer. people were fucking retarded and brown. couldn't do any mechanic that involved spreading out / not killing your raid.

>>534867046
have you ever noticed the retards in certain raids that always end up standing on top of you while dpsing in a fight that requires you to spread out? thunderaan for example. i just picture the biggest mouthbreathing 40 y/o retard mutt.

>>534867046
its funny because aq20/40 teaches players about spreading/stacking when necessary but you dont even see those mechanics with world buffs and high dps. how curious that is to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRulgbXwI7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRulgbXwI7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRulgbXwI7c

NEW KINO GET IN HERE BROS

I could fix Garrosh

>>534868047
he doesn't need fixing

>>534868016
I read his yt blog post about this, now i have to watch the vid too ?

>>534868087
He's mean to the other Horde races when we should all be friends :(

>>534868016
>"introverts are being shamed"
>spends the whole video shaming extroverts
alex being blissfully unaware for the millionth time

im not paying 10k for a jade spirit enchant

>>534870072
It's 10 sha crystals
You can wait for celestials so there are more purps around

>>534870072
8k if you ERP me

>>534870072
Celestial dungeons come out tomorrow and we will be swimming in Sha Crystals. Just be patient.

>>534870389
>>534871219
>>534873223
I'm not buying jade spirit until I get my loshan anyway

>>534868016
He looks so scrawny now.

Bro lost all his gains.

>>534870072
>>534870389
>>534871219
>>534873223
uhh sorry, this is a Classic WoW thread, not a retail thread.

>>534873472
When are we getting a classic version worth playing again then Mr chud? Everyone ran off because it's ded

>>534873472
erping in goldshire started in vanilla

i'm gonna cryboom
*crybooms*

if you still read it, its not really a filtered post

>>534874479
3 weeks from now, Titanforged US Realms will be announced

'niller cryboomer wellness check

Uh oh mopjeet melty

mopchink mopchink

>Got 450 blacksmithing from wotlk
>Expensive to lvl up
>Doesn't seem to make money or have broken bonuses

>>534878560
>>534878201
>>534878083
redpill me on mop sissies

https://www.twitch.tv/moonrisevt
https://www.twitch.tv/moonrisevt
https://www.twitch.tv/moonrisevt
https://www.twitch.tv/moonrisevt

goon squad: assemble

You have to be mentally ill to level a priest solo in classic

>>534879105
Too lazy, I want mop gdkp bvlast

>>534879105
>vtuber woman
tell me youre ugly without telling me youre ugly

I live near the ocean so I always get the tsunami dreams too.
I hate them.

>you should eat biboo
:o

Which class requires the least amount of consumes and wbs in TBC? I am feeling the itch to return but don't want to/don't have time to go full sweatlord.

>>534882258
No wbuffs in TBC. Casters require the least amount of effort consume wise. This is my warlock in TBC in Sunwell. Physical DPS use scrolls to min-max so it's kind of annoying but they largely got rid of consumable stacking in TBC.

>>534849302
Why didnt he mention the low ironforge.pro numbers?

>open bideo
>hat indoors

>>534882918
Nice I have a lock already at around lvl 45, maybe I can slowly level it to 60 while waiting for TBC

classic, tbc, wotlk, cata, mop exist because of Alexensual

Why is mop failing? Not enough changes? Too many dailies?

Not enough diaperfurs left to "play" with since they are mostly content with retoilet

i used the item restoration thing for one of my characters on mop but i dont have any items in my mailbox? how do i get the items

retailchads run this game

No wonder it's dead

how will this thread seethe about wod and legion classic?

>blizzard gave free mop boosts to sod players
>they all fucked off to turtle wow instead

>>534887327
And runescape, pretty funny though yeah

Deviate delight is poppin off again

>>534887245
those are not classic

any chance warrior/resto druids/hunters get nerfed?

Why do i have to feel like a disabled person playing enhance shaman? Its just not fair

>>534886536
It's time-gated, the same reason it was hated 13 years ago.

Titanforged is soulless chink shit

>>534888392
Anniversary is soulless third world shit.

>>534888392
holy sour grapes

>>534889117
Wrath classes are shit

>>534890554
Compared to what?
Anniversary???
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>534888392
in what way?

>>534877841
>those 2 insta indirect seethe replies on cooldown tho

>samefagging your own post 2 hours later
Grimaldo

>>534890554
only if youre a warrior

>>534890657
TBC
>>534890828
Titan's Grip and its consequences

will mats get cheaper?
it seems everyone and their mom is going engie and tailor

>>534896501
>S O L V E D G A M E

lil unc crashing out on cooldown over an old video game

>>534896587
see >>534896756
You can probably go through the history of classic era to see what prices do

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/5sC9hblQzPJM7a%2F%2FS8dWWg%3D%3D/page/17
>been seething for 3 years straight

>>534897485
is this the aforementioned cryboomer in their natural habitat?

>>534900520
You're just gloating because the original /vg/ archives were wiped

https://streamable.com/b6rdgi
>teleports behind your lotus
>nothing personel kid

>>534911950
Yeah they mining under the world when they nerfed spawns in MoP

Hunter Anons, how come people don't play as Survival in Classic Era / Hardcore?

>5% Parry
>Wing Clip can root target
>Deterrence gives 20% dodge and Parry
>Wyvern Sting can CC mob pack, making the fight easier

>>534917859
I leveled as surv, it's way more fun. BM is just OP because your pet's retarded strong.

>>534918048
To me Survival Hunter is a sign of High IQ. I saw a Survival Hunter on WSG and he was a flag carrier. He Wyvern Stinged a player from the opposing team trying to attack him.

Is there any lockout on the celestial dungeons or can you just spam them?

I'm kind of regretting leveling a mage as an alt but I'm already 89 and don't know if I want to sink time into another character. I'm realizing I only really liked fire mage and fire is ass now. fuck it maybe I will just play one character this expac

What's the best race for Warrior in Hardcore? I'm kind of keen to Dwarf to remove poisons, bleedings and diseases.

>>534918209
Random you can spam to your hearts content but queueing specific dungeons will lock you if you out of queueing for them again.

Are heirlooms still a thing in MOP? I fucking hated that mechanic so much. Killed all gearing progression while leveling

>>534919916
yeah. you can just not use them if you're okay with levelling slower.

>>534920213
how do you get them in MOP now? I remember in wotlk you buy them with endgame tokens, did they change this?

>>534919916
It killed gearing progression but blizz understood that anything but expansion content is basically an irrelevant slog

>>534920894
uh yeah I'm pretty sure some are still from justice points, some you can buy for gold if you have guild reputation as well

They aren't going to do a tbc era, are they?

>>534926020
Anniversary servers are dying so likely no.

>>534926020
>make another dead version
no ofc not

Haha butthurt retoilets and pserver shills

>>534926020
go 2 bed Gummy

>>534926020
Probably not. Last time I'll ever play TBC if that's the case. I'm maining the one class I should've back in 2021, ret. I've already come to terms that I'll never be able to play a fury warrior and get glaives despite being the best player in any guild I've ever joined. Glaives are for officers and GMs unfortunately.

>>534930707
You could make your own guild. But meh, glaives look retarded anyway

>>534930840
I wouldn't be able to. If an era server was launching for TBC, I'd probably just pay someone $ to host a raid and HR it for me. That's the only way they even become worth it.

>>534930967
Yeah if there was an era if you stayed long enough in a guild you'd eventually get it. Rogues got TF in classic era even though it wasn't BiS for them

>press play
>game doesnt start
>press it again 5 times
>nothing happens
>do something else for 20 minutes
>suddenly wow starts 6 times
what did they mess up now

"Dadlock: A Tragedy in Blackrock Depths"

So my buddy — let’s call him Mike, because of course his name is Mike — recently became a dad gamer. You know the type. Logitech headset from 2009, gaming chair that doubles as a diaper-changing station, and a play schedule so erratic it might be considered a federal crime in three time zones.

He rolls a Human Male Warlock, obviously.
Because if you're a dad, you’re morally and spiritually obligated to pick the most janky, curse-flavored class with a spellbook that hasn’t changed since 2005.

One night he pings me on Discord:

“Hey bro, wanna tank BRD? Just got 2 hours while the baby sleeps.”

Two hours. That’s his window. That’s his entire lifespan right now.
I’m thinking, “Sure. Chill run. Pop some mobs, grab a few blues, bask in the cozy nostalgia.”

I WAS WRONG.
I WAS SO VERY WRONG.

We get the group together.
I’m the tank. Obviously. Because I value pain and regret.
We zone in. Everyone buffs. Water's traded. Summons are done.

Mike — Dadlock Supreme — opens the run by yelling:

“TIME TO BURN, BABY!”

Instantly casts Hellfire.
Standing right in the middle of the pack.

Doesn’t DoT. Doesn’t curse. Doesn’t wand.
Just full-on self-immolation. Like it’s 2004 and he's playing Jackass: The Raid Experience.

I try to pick up aggro, but no — Mike's done 8 million AoE damage to everything in the first three seconds. And also to himself.
He dies. On pull one.
Not to mobs.
To Hellfire.

His Discord lights up, mic crackles, and I hear the distinct hiss of a beer can opening, followed by:

“Haha damn, that spell SLAPS.”

We rez him.
I try to coach him:

“Hey man, maybe start with some DoTs next time, build aggro slowly—”

“Nah bro, Hellfire’s efficient.”

Next pull?
He does it again.
Hellfire. Every. Single. Time.

>>534926020
It's definitely happening. They've very recently made up their mind on what the future of Classic will look like and TBC era is part of that "vision".

>>534933646
Source?

>exhalted with all mop factions
>done cm modes on my character
>nothing left to do but raidlog
so much for mop not being a raidlog expansion ....

>>534933646
You mean the fake leak about classic+ getting kill and every expac getting stuck on era forever?
I don't believe it

>>534868016
he shadowbans you if you comment "hat inside/hat indoors" ... the meme really got into him

>>534934697
Source me god damn it

>>534932814
mike won

can someone explain to me why dbm modes needs 10 daily updates for a game that came out 15 years ago? is it spyware?

>>534936595
Nah, they are just giving you a free service, good samaritans the lot ;)

>>534936595
I like having the leatrix sounds guy bitch at me every time I log in (you MUST do this RIGHT NOW)

>>534936595
Btw you HAVE to have dbm or else... or else... you just have to OK ?

>>534886536
We had mop leveling event last year on retail so everybody is tired of that expac already.
Give me Legion Classic.

>>534934691
Sounds like every WoW version

>sandstorm in tanaris
>pet isn't spawning

>>534934691
Your pet collection and battles?

>>534934691
Get a life ne'erdo'ell

>>534934697
That's all we ever wanted so never ever. SoD players should just play retail in the first place

>>534941787
The ne'er do wells are the gold/carry sellers

>>534941787
>>534942564

never cry, never boom
enjoying mop while you doom

>>534942416
The average SoD player could barely clear SE and that raid was easier than normal mode retail raids, they would have no chance trying to play TWW

>>534943997
Thank you once again for your astounding post contribution, never once elucidating on things or experiences you have enjoyed the most, and only passive-aggressively snapping at other posters who are your perceived enemy.

>>534944532
Do they still have heroic mode in retail or is it only mythic?

>>534821139
>he woke up

>>534944667
yeah that post is actually funny. meanwhile yours is just bitter seethe

>>534944532
Retail's last cope is how difficult their raids are. Everything else about that game is utter trash so they desperately cling to a virtual DDR simulator mechanics and a 3rd party website for leaderboards.
No one gives a shit about raid difficulty in classic. That's why speed running became a thing as an extra challenge for the hardcore players, classic is meant to be a beer and pretzels kind of endgame

>>534943997
cry zoomers have classic boomers in their mind rent-free. They aren't even playing MoP lol, just posting here instead

>>534946447
Thanks for weighing in unc

>>534945719
Your brain will function one day, hopefully.

>>534947153
>doubling down

>>534946447
Yes, and the more exclusive they make it, by necessity it will exclude more of the playerbase.
I honestly can't remember the last time anyone cared about even world first let alone CEs. Must have been Paragon's world first Arthas.

>>534946447
>No one gives a shit about raid difficulty in classic.
is that why they gear check and chase world buffs/consumes to eliminate as much difficulty as possible?

>>534947383
That is meaningless.

>>534947638
The gear/buff/consumable check is to weed out the freeriders.

>>534947638
They gear check because doing the same raid for 3 months straights multiple times per char gets tedious so they just want to get it done with. And world buffs are also for that reason but also fun because big numbers

>>534947050
>same image spam the last few years
god I hate gen z trannies

>>534947638
UH OH

>you're not allowed to download and reposts images from the image forum
unc meltie

>>534948570
Nigga got emotional over a funny picture making fun of his skill

>samefagging on cool down
pathetic

>>534947493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QcuB8zCpu4&t=1223s
>the blizz king, must, fall

>>534948778
Why don't you post your pandas anymore, big herb?

>>534947493
Their strategy for a while now has just been managed decline; the playerbase is always shrinking but they go all in on their dedicated whales and make sure they pay 10x a normal base subscription cost via micro transactions

>>534949069
Crazy to think that the best guild in the world for a time was comprised of ~25 Finnish dudes.

>>534949327
The best teams in basketball during the 1950s were 5'7" white guys shooting underhand, skill level evolves in games as time goes on.

>>534949327
Makes sense if you think about it. No miscommunication or cultural issues. Tiny country with amazing Internet.

>>534949234
Who are you talking to

>>534947789
>>534948050
>i dont care about difficulty which is why i wont take people who make the raid more difficult
make it make sense

>>534821139
>>samefag accusations anytime two or more disagree with him

>>534949645
Some melvin

>>534949738
It's not about making the raid less difficult. It's about taking people who deserve to be there and who deserve loot. If I bring wbuffs and consumes and play at a 99th percentile and lose a highly sought after item to some guy that logs in 20 mins before raid and has nothing prepared then I'll most likely leave the guild. Sure you can carry him but who the fuck wants to do that.

>>534949914
This. People's time is precious
>>534949738
Stop playing dumb

>>534949914
But why do you want world buffs and consumes to content that's easy as fuck? who are you trying to prove yourself for? you said it yourself: no one cares about raid difficulty in classic, so why are you taking the extra mile?

unc spends 3 hours a week collecting buffs to kill 30 second bosses and complains that modern wow takes too much time

>>534950158
To have fun. I would be playing a warrior or fire mage in this scenario and without wbuffs or consumes I have less fun, simple as. If you played either of these classes you'd understand the difference between having those buffs and not having them. It's drastically drops APM and therefore fun.

>>534949914
>taking people who deserve to be there and who deserve loot
Ain't nobody got time fuh dat. Enjoy decline.

>>534949914
so you do in fact care about difficulty then
>>534950084
how am i playing dumb? you cant just say you dont care about something then proceed to show that you do. why is it so hard to just admit that you care about difficulty lol

>>534950357
I wouldn't ever be in a guild that condones people showing up and putting in 0 effort. For the few and rare situations where this happens, I'm explaining it to that anon since he seems lost. 99% of the time, those guys putting in effort would leave the guild that same day.

>>534950384
It's about time not difficulty zoomoid

>>534950304
so why do you deny the guy without world buffs then? maybe he thinks its more fun to not have them and according to you no one cares if it makes things harder, right?

>>534950084
>playing the game more is bad
>Noooo this last MC took 5 mins longer than the last time!
if you can't afford the time, then don't play at all lmao

>>534950384
>so you do in fact care about difficulty then
This is the last example I'll give you. I'll even use a real world scenario. You and some other guy are paid to do the same exact job but the other guy does half your workload. How does that make you feel?

>>534950568
>Spending more time in the video game is bad
maybe gaming isn't for you then
>>534950639
>My real world analogy for a video game to own you
Oh man it's one of those

>>534950587
Because if you set an expectation and someone says I'm not going to do it, then they should either not be invited or be content with getting leftovers. Alas that doesn't happen in most SR guilds, those guys have equal rolling power.
>>534950761
>No response
Thanks for playing.

>>534950639
>Okay anons, this is the job: you have to stack this deck of cards. 52 cards, don't forget
>Other anon: just stacks them slowly with one hand and takes him 2 minutes
>(You): spend time making a device where you can put down all the cards so that they slide down in a perfect stacked deck. The device took dozens of minutes to build, but the stacking took 30 seconds
I too, can also do retarded analogies

>>534950592
LGBTQ?

>no one cares about difficulty in raids
>*proceeds to have an endless meltdown about it when called out on why its okay to minmax the so called easy raid

>>534950936
You're so hung up on the difficultly aspect that you're completely ignoring the deserving aspect. I thank god I don't have to raid with retards like you in SR guilds. Not playing anni was the right choice by far. You've never put in effort towards anything and it clearly shows.

>>534950983
>reply without substance

>>534951274
that guy is brown stop giving him attention, he's same fagging

>>534951274
If you're not even playing vanilla then why are you so uptight about the topic? What are you even playing lil unc?

>>534951136
once the niller associates something with "being retail" he will defy it until inevitably booming 6 feet under

>>534951435
Our local vanilla wow fan?

>>534951717
>'nillers are brown
ermm...

>>534951274
i do put effort in because i can admit i care about difficulty and want the game to be easier

^crying irl lol

if you still read it, its not really a filtered post

if you play MoP you're gay, simple as

>>534952707
>if you play MoP
No one does that LMAO

daily niller meltie

What's the difference between leveling a character in retail only in classic zones and leveling a character in classic wow? Apart from the better graphics and better class design obviously.
>its way faster
You can level one of every class then.
>its easier
Only use white or grey gear. Plently of difficulty there.

>>534951307
>dodged the question
KEK

>>534953387
well, because its retail. once something is retail, its bad. it becomes infected with disney mechanics that ghibli bloat everything

8 days until Titanforged NA Realm announcement by Blizzard Entertainment Inc.

>>534957479
Bugbrain nigger

>>534957715
yes you are, but what does that have to do with the new American Titanforged realms?

>buyed 6 celestial bags
>not a single mountie or pet

>alex deleting posts he just doesnt like
some things never change lol

Is double pvp trinket REALLY the best when they give

+6% dmg
-3% dmg taken
2k on use mainstat
2.5k proc mainstat

Vs pve which gives

2k mainstat
5-10k secondary stat proc/on use

2k passive main stat is like a +17% overall dmg buff alone… and pvp power scales linearly not exponentially so is it really bis for like a hunter or rogue?

>>534963129
No one here plays at a high enough level to answer this anon. Try your classes discord PvP channel.

>>534963129
unc playing shitty minigame pvp when battlefield 6 is out

why do you sometimes get conquest points for losing a random bg? is the game just completely bugged or why does this happen lol

what's blud yappin about?

i thought youd get a mountie for doing all celestials but you dont

>>534963129
>prefix and suffix in the thousands

Oh nonono

Moppy i dont feel so good...

failed male working overtime

what's blud plappin about?

10,000 stat boost im gonnnaaa ccuummmmm


Remember in nilla when you got +3 str+3 stam belt?

No?

>>534966469
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

>>534966332
That insta indirect seethe below, lol

>that blatant samefagging
oof

The first 200 or so posts in this thread were great, we were having an actual discussion.

>>534969814
its a funny post, though. wheres the seethe?

>>534963129
The top one is way better for pvp, its a no brainerp

You can wait for the proc and double your mainstat in a controlled way.

The pve trinket is useless

You cucks still playing wow and not osrs? Sad

>>534971941
>>534971423

Yeah idk dude, all I’ll say is the current double pvp ain’t doing shit for me against warriors as an enhance shaman. I rather try my luck with 10k crit/haste procs and the 2k passive agility and pop CDs and cheese them 40% - 0%. Im not surviving otherwise. Deep wounds ticks for 30k on me

>>534974369

Adding up this, I’m really at the point of just unsubbing anyway. Not fun losing to warriors who were 1400 in cata. If I don’t at least do big dmg I’ll quit for TBC

any engineers here?
how much it cost you to get from 1 to 600?

never jeet, never buy
vanilla fresh until i die!

>>534970927
look again right below the post you replied to
this "guy" is something else lmao

>>534974783
3.4 Sneeds

why did blud change the hash

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/TOk83IQeG-LoeLyiG7AnIw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/ot7jfXOqTbZIOIaBRACkuw/

And here comes the part where he samefags his post

>>534975383
sub 1 minute indirect seethe. you have him on strings kek

>>534821139
Yeah it's funny how this fag changes the hash every time, thinking he won't get caught lmfao

>>534821139
>>"insta reply insta seethe"
>>"on strings"/"puppet
>>permanent thread uptime
>>will try to gaslight/obfuscate (what how he recoils! I've been found out!)

alex rises

Is there literally a single auto marker fork that actually works?

>>534975383
Grim

Thank you Alexensual for giving us classic WoW.

>>534856675
or how about disable DBM and leave the rest of it alone? your addon needs aren't my addon needs.

one filtered ID

>>534979087
I was talking about vanilla. You know, the version you dont play.

So what's the best way to enjoy Northrend?

>>534963763
was it ab? it seems losing ab will sometimes give random conquest. I got 150 once for losing ab first bg of the day, then 75 randomly for another loss. It seems inconsistent though and it's only happened to me when losing ab. it's supposed 150 first win and 75 every loss. the game is broken.

>blood elf players in my group
>biggest retards on planet
why?

>>534983039
99% of these goldbuying botters wont be playing that one version of the game? Good, sign me up!

Moppy currently at 10 layers. How many layers on the niller realms?

>>534985367
69

>>534982674
what a retarded non-response. why even bother typing that out? figures someone that would want all addons disabled except the ones you like is a retarded faggot.

Say it.

>>534986094
I'm going to order gourmet Pizza in his honor on Friday.

>>534985776
I never said disable all addons except the ones i like, learn to read nigger

>>534984648
yep it was ab
didnt get anymore conquest but im glad that atleast im not the only one that noticed that bug

>>534986094
Watching Pochie shit the bed made me appreciate sod more

>>534984337
alliance or horde?

>>534987559
after checking I've received 150, 125, and 75 conq for losing abs. gonna try losing some more abs and see what happens.

Just went on a three man rampage with 2 other random DKs. We raped the entire team, all of us at the top leaderboard. They were UH and I Frost. Holy fuck I forgot how good we are when healers are up our ass

>>534989912
wrong thread tranny

>>534985367
UH OHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>534985367
Mop is winning the layers game

I kneel

>>534987956
For teh horde!

>>534827745
fast phases mean tank fags steal all the DPS gear for their "threat" sets.

>>534993237
>37 seconds indirect seethe
H O L Y

>>534985367
layers are now a bad thing

>>534821139
>>"insta reply insta seethe"

How many sigils were you able to get from celestial dungeon bosses today? It's supposed to be one per every last dungeon boss, so 9 sigils/week, but i was only able to get 6.

>>534993898
i got 1 wisdom and 1 power and i did all the dungeons once

>>534993452
Always were

>>534822707
>Man I am so glad we got GDKP banned for the far superior soft reserve loot system.
Okay.

>It's so fun to go to Onyxia every reset for 6 months and lose your item to fresh green geared priests
This cant happen in a GDKP?

>Fucking awesome job guys, classic is saved. The economy is fixed. Noone buys gold anymore. We did it reddit.
What are you buying gold for? Consumes? so you can parse in an SR raid???? lmao, lol even. You retards are griefing yourselves.

Do people actually buy transmog gear on MoP classic? Not one of my auctions have ever sold. I look up the prices on the undermine exchange and price it a bit below the median but neither low or high value appearances have sold

Alexensual won in life

Alexensual won in game

Cope

im so pissed .. i bought like 10 bags and none had a mount fuck this jewish company

Failed male lol
Wish you'd just simply kys already lmfao

im a completed male

>>534994857
It seems they didn't put the cool loooking mounts that look like the celestials ... instead they put recolors of yaks and cranes and cloud serpents

puppet. i have you on strings

>>534994552
just the slutmog like the plate one

are you playing a cello?

>>534994552
Game is dead anon

>>534994552
I imagine people are not investing as much into that kind of thing this go around because they know their classic characters are more than likely temporary. the playerbase for classic are mostly raidloggers, they just care about parses. people interested in fashion are playing retail where there's a lot more options. outside of a few quirky transmogs and slutmogs, I mostly see people just mogging into basic tier gear from the last couple expacs or whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Liv3FyZVMM
cryboomer crying about boomers, you wont wanna miss it

>>534999019
fake news

>>534998440
Im good, thanks

I'm approaching level 40 on anniversary hardcore and I'm wondering how to afford my mount. I'm at 35g at level 34. Should I have it by questing or do I need to use professions as well here?

>>535000293
pov: you are green

>disc required
>join
>its just fat gay guys raging
why

>>534999019
>multiple choice question on a survey
what does this prove now?

How are people already 475+ ilvl in MOP?

>>535001324
heroic msv is piss easy

>>535001324
raiding? not that hard to achieve after a couple raid lockouts, especially if you don't have much gear competition. on top of valor gear, world bosses, crafted gear, and now celestials.

how much gold are people making per day once you get your farm fully set up?

I'm back, what did i miss? is mop bussin or naw?

>>535002030
raidlog slop

>>535002248
so, like every other version of classic? gotcha

>>535002452
only vanilla Nov 2004 was good

>>535002660
>vanilla was only good when it was retail
very telling

>>535000896
as you approach 40 quests and rewards will net more gold. most will tell you professions. dungeon trash gives lots of dosh

am i a dick if i queue up for dungeons as resto but go tank loot spec to take tanking gear

>>535002797
if no one else needs it, take whatever loot you want. if the actual tank needs it, then yeah you're a dick.

>page 9
grim

I'm busy jerking off, sorry

I'm busy jerking a guy off, sorry

I'll be online in time for AQ tonight don't worry

>>535010728
reset day and celestials out, people are actually playing the game

>tfw got 4 pieces tonight
>492 ilvl

>instant indirect seethe
holy moly

>>534992826
imo the best horde exerience is howling fjord to dragonsblight to grizzly hills. you will probably then be able to pick either storm peaks or icecrown, imo, i think icecrown is a boring zone and has a lot of group quests

is it really filtered if you still see it

blizzard ui is dogshit for seeing if my pet is alive. Any good unit frames so i can actually see their debuffs

>>534821139
>>"insta reply insta seethe"

>>535014198
elvui

>will of the emperor
>70% and already oom
fuck this nigger fight

>>535014345
that fight is aids

stop talking about MoP in the classic thread

>>535015939
then the thread would die, it's not like you guys talk about vanilla at all

MoP is classic, chud

>2 posts total about AQ40, the current tier of vanilla
Volumes

>tranime pedo
skibidi skip

the path of a ret chad is not easy

This general is so dead I shitpost about vanilla in the retail general

so a spirit beast heals you for 100k on a 30 sec cd. That seems kind of busted? That kind of is more OP than pet sac. 200k health vs no crits for 12 seconds?

niller finna cryboom

stop calling me a niller

>>534837361
The best hunters in TBC will be using scripts to melee weave.

give me some potion of luck
mote farming areas I want free money with tailor

>>534844439
Inflation over time has been worse on anniversary servers than it was on era. There's zero evidence that banning GDKPs does anything to reduce gold generation in the game, and it obviously does nothing to remove gold from the game.

>>535022213
>Warcraftlogs: hunters using raptor strike more than 5 times in a fight will cancel their logs
: )

its stupid to level herb just for the 3k haste buff? How long does alchemist stone relevant? Until next tier?

Or just scrap the idea and go tailoring engineering?

>>535014345
the majority of mop fights are complete fucking slogs

>>535025373
>cried the cryboomer

Is hardcore worth playing right now?

>>535025717
>cry zooms

btw i changed a bunch of my pvp gear for pve gear and i fucking pump now. Fuck you guys and all the meta faggot guides who said "Dood pvp gear for pvp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I lost 4% dmg in pvp for 1150 strength and 500 crit

never listening to another grifter again

Why did vanilla devs make accuracy a thing and then add fuckall ways to increase it?

>guild demands people to get pvp weapons for raid prog
>but organizes no RBG or arena groups.

>>534994552
I already bought them in TBC anonski.

>will of the emperor forces 2 guys into a designated cuck chair for the adds


Who the fuck thought this was fun? I also need to constantly run back and forth to grip the rages when druids fuck up.

>>535011885
makes sense that someone that would wait for epoch an entire week would play pandas lmao

>>535031754
>playing MoP

man these celestials are a breeze, I got 4 items tonight. mind you it was a pretty sweaty night. but still I remember in the Wrath titan protocol dungeons it took like a week of grinding for one item. were they this easy in Cata too, I didn't play.

>>535037583
Three mechanics killed you if you didn't dodge, but otherwise they were about as easy.

>>535029583
pretty sure they lie about bis until later in the seasons to try and get an advantage

>>535000896
I dont know how it is on hc, if you can use the AH. But its normal to have ~40g at that level range. You have to stop buying non essential skills, and it helps grinding for certain items.

The pattern of robes of the arcana go for 10-15g on anni, as an example. Depends on the economy of the hc server. (They dont sell immediately and that should not bother you, it will sell eventually)

You can stop leveling and grind for certain blue profession items that go on the AH as well, depending on your profession choice.

Take it easy

Robes of arcana sell because it is needed for a warlock chest quest, fyi

>>535029583
Do not wear any piece that has a pvp power as the gem slot bonus, that is genuinely wasted stat budget.
Do not wear the trinkets either.

>>535029583
>i lost 3% dmg and got 2.5% dmg

Your point chud ?

>>535043397

You have no idea how stats scale lol. 1k flat strength is literally a 11% dmg increase alone. Not to mention every stat scales pretty exponentially while pvp power scales linearly

Someone that used to get their gold from gdkps probably isn't going to start sweating in the dme mines, they're just going to swipe. What kind of retard would waste hours of their time every week earning 3 cents an hour? Players have every incentive to buy gold thanks to third world convention rates and nothing will change until blizzard enacts actual enforcement of their rules

This shit died so hard from OSRS winning

*triggers every wind bomb and wipes you're group*

>>535052019
I healed a bunch of celestials and the only wipes I had were on Sha of Anger. insane amount of damage going out on that fight.
also had all the dps die on the rabbit boss in Brewery but me and the tank finished it off from like 70%. was doing 100k dps as resto sham, the crane buff is cracked.

>>535050001
Define linear and non linear power scaling?

Pvp is all about bursting at the right time, so having a controlled boost of stats is better

>>535052603
Sha of Violence I mean. the one in Monastery. whatever. I get them mixed up.

Kinda new to this whole classic thing, why are the Classic, TBC and Lich King raids greyed out?

>>535052617

400 pvp power is always going to be +1% damage in pvp. No matter if you have 0 or 10k

blue 458 pvp gear with shitty secondary stats is objectively superior to 473 pve gear with good secondary stats. Not saying to replace the conquest gear, but as of right now, the 473 with good stats > 458 blue gear

>>535057163

objectively inferior*

>>535056986
We're full, fuck off back to retail

>>535057447
>We're full

I'm finally realizing that maybe wow just wasn't a good mmo to play

Retoilet was never good, it's why it's a mystery we have these dogshit expansions relaunching. It's embarrassing honestly, some private slav servers mog classic AGAIN

>>535061645
Its actually the best since day one

doom more

>>535028846
I think so. I'm dicking around on a character I had abandoned a while ago, in my 30s and I regularly get whispers to come to dungeons. It's both a mix of comfy and "oh shit" moments that add adrenaline to the gameplay. Feeling actually threatened by shit and having to use all of the resources at my disposal honestly makes the game feel more immersive.

Oh no no no no...

Will it grow next week, or is it maxed out?

People play way worse on hc as they are forced to be more conservative

>>535063991
>(in my opinion....)

lol cuck

Uhhh...

>>534846716
You buy gold.

>only ones who need to care about celestial mechanics are healers
>everyone else can be as retarded and low dps as they want
>bonus points for tanks ignoring slimes and running to the other half of dungeon

Sovl

>>535066523
lick it up sissy
i gotta coom

>>535066523
So nothing has changed? Healers are the only people who have to do shit

>>535067095
>furry
>cancer toys
>waiting for a rare mount
its just retail

>collecting pixels
>collecting autism achievements

Oh nonono moppy

Not like this

the cryniller booms out in pain as he watches people enjoying different versions of wow

They need to ban all addons for next vanilla fresh

And remove wbuffs

>>535067425
>>535066523
Honestly, wow would really benefit from the ff XIV feature where if retard gets hit by mechanic that he could have easily avoided he gets marked with "retard" debuff for 10% more incoming damage and 10% less damage person deals, that stacks.

Holy cryboomer meltie of the morning

>week 2 of pandiarrhea
>STILL getting mogged by Scata

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA

in past expansions when i hit max level i spammed heroic as a healer and got full gear in like a day

based on what ive seen as a dps in celestial dungeons, healing does not actually look fun, it looks like work. Should I just go dps and deal with 7 min queues vs instant as healer?

>>535071992
>Getting more players is a bad thing
man you jaded fags will find anything to get upset at

>>535071992
Grim. Reminder that cata is labeled as the "worst expansion ever".

>>535071992
>vanilla getting mogged by both cata and mop
uhmm...

Would Blizzard really wait to announce Classic+ until next years Blizzcon? Assuming they're already working on it, wouldn't it make sense to announce it now then build hype over the next 1.5-2 years while we are still in MoP/TBC/Wrath?

>>535073275
>Would Blizzard really wait to announce Classic+
Why? We already had SoD and the current numbers are saying that more people prefer MoP over vanilla