Thread 534961530

surely, they're cooking edition

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poo2 sucks

>>534961665
fpbp

Remember when Jonathan said the flask refilling at well thing was a internal build thing and it wouldnt be like that when the game goes live in early access?

>>534961665
Genshin has more build diversity than PoE 2 has...

>>534961942
No. They said thay clicking the well felt fun and "weighty"

>>534961942
wow its the same post you've made every 15 minutes for the past 9 months. what an existence you must lead thinking the same retarded thought over and over forever.

>>534962383
>dev makes retarded design decision
>people laugh about it
>"nooo stop laughing at retarddev-kun"

>>534962383
Actually i made it for over a year, i actually made it since exilecon 2023.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/quicksilver%20flask%20removed%20%28a%20movement%20speed%20flask%29/filter/text/

Fuck Jonathan Rogers btw

i like clicking the well

>>534962501
i didn't know you have to refill your flasks at the well in poe 2, that is actually really stupid.

>>534962501
the "noooo" here is really clever. it shows a really active imagination that isnt endlessly repeating the same catchphrases.

Hey! You! Yes you! Wanna hear something funny?
You have to click the well to refill flask and restore HP/Mana.

>>534962805
retard

Look at this faggot. I bet he's still posting here. Show your face coward

>>534963184
wrong

>>534962837
Yids are not welcome in this thread, thank you

Name and shame.

>>534963271
>Literally everything is either a builder-spender or a cooldown
>There are no movement skills
>Cancer side bosses with permanent buffs aren't even tracked anywhere
The fag that originally posted this should never be allowed to post anything but pure Jonathan hatred again.

>>534962805
ZASEDNADO

>>534963625
retard

>>534963674
wrong

>>534963510
Damn almost all of the "incorrect" ones turned out to be real... it really was a rugpull bros

>>534963625
trvuke. and the machine guns, what were they thinking?
at least the flying mounts are a nice addition.

>>534963510
>>scour and alt removed (very basic crafting currencies)
>They are actually the most fundamental crafting method right after the crafting bench (removed) and metacrafts (also removed)
What an absolute fucking retard lmao.

removing scours and alts was the most based thing they've done so far

>>534964324
wrong

>>534964324
nucreal

ayo where is the next teaser?

Any anons here can give advice/guide on how to get into hideout decorating?
I havent bought any hideout MTX or supporter packs ever so i have no idea what you're supposed to buy, how this works?

>>534965382
LET THEM COOK YOU DISGUSTING WHORE STOP PRESSURING JONATHAN HOLY FUCK AHHHHHH STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>534965382
Two more weeks

what is the current state of ssf in poop2
i played 0.1 and the gearing consisted of showing 5 bases per item class including white items and trans aug regal exalt exalt exalt until it rolls a bad mod
and for the good bases you stored them in your little cuckshed to 3-1 them which for some godforsaken reason is now its own crafting bench which only lets you 3-1 a single item at a time
is this better yet

>>534967000
yes

>>534962229
>Genshin has more build diversity than PoE 2
unironically correct

>>534967452
retard

>>534967000
there's no crafting in po2 unless you're retarded and consider omens a crafting system. omen crafting is just glorified basic currency spam.

>>534967000
No

>>534967790
retard

>>534967452
Nobody said it was wrong, even mobile autobattlers have more build diversity than poopy2

>>534967501
Tardree

>>534963184
>>534963674
>>534964324
>>534967501
>>534967912
retard

I feel like this retard shitpost has ran it's course.

>>534968446
If by shitpost you mean pajeets running their shilling scripts, sure.

>>534967501
wrong

>>534968596
retard

>>534961530 (OP)
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2
GOD SHIT OF EXILE 1

>>534968696
wrong

Zacciebros... how did it come to this???

>>534970287
zACKiexisters..............

>>534968446
Its literally one schizo here posting 24/7. He retardposts against any antipoe2 sentiments. He's the goodest goy they've ever had

>>534971004
retard

>>534970287
the guy with a diaper fetish doesn't like poe 2, big surprise. is zaccie the guy always spamming about poop and jonathan shitting in a tub?
knowing someone who is that disgusting doesn't like poe2 makes me like the game even more.

>he hasnt filtered the r word yet
newfren...

>>534971181
řeťard

>>534971113
Idk it could be. Zaccie was the one in the trooncord engaging in erp with some other dude talking about licking someone's poop butt clean and giving shit kissies

Complete deranged behavior

>>534971113
the shitpost with the diaper discord screenshot was fake

>>534971728
doubtful, the guy has clearly been a disaster for poe 1. now he's salty about poe 2s success.

poo1 lost
sleepoch lost
d4 lost
poe2 won
tq2 won
grim dawn won

>>534971593
>was the one in the trooncord engaging in erp with some other dude talking about licking someone's poop butt clean and giving shit kissies
No he wasn't kek, it was an old screenshot.

Guys, Zaccie isn't a degenerate. He was just posting futa and talking about banging dragon pussy. Stop the lies.

>>534972519
hes just like me fr

>>534971593
>>534972390
it was fake
>>534972519
this was true

>>534972519
zaccie is based. streamers love him, ggg loves him, korean sluts love him.

>>534963510
Schizo has been doing this sad routine for 15 months at least? Jesus.

>>534972831
behold, the masculine face of the poop2 ((((balancing)))) team
I kneel poo2GODS

What the fuck is red es?

>>534972831
Everything that's good about POE can be credited to the fact that it was made by weird nerds and not by smooth-speaking suited jocks.

So many of you faggots unironically spend all day thinking about a game you seem to literally hate. It’s crazy.

I enjoy the game. I think there isn’t another arpg game that comes even close. PoE2 is obviously not a finished product but I’m glad to be here for the beta.

JEJ

>>534972983
>i'm not attracted to him so poe 2 is bad
kek

>>534972803
>>534972390
>GIDF arrived on scene
Lmao

>>534973285
if 4chan was a person it would be zaccie.
and he is the guy in charge of monster balance and design in poe2.

>>534973285
Dude may as well get 'incel' tattooed to his forehead lmao

why did it have to be ackaizer's discord troons

>>534973603
based

>>534973280
go back to plebbit

>>534973280
THERMOBARIC TRVTH PAYLOAD

WHERE'S THE ARMOR FIX ZACCIE

>>534971004
It's talkative tri I just know it. Meming on his hard posting mind broke him.

>>534974090
retard

>>534973280
True, Jonathan doesn't get enough credit and I'm sick of it. GGG is one of the last great indie devs in the industry and I'm so sick of all the negativity in this sub. It's incredible what they've been able to accomplish since the beta release. I know it'd not perfect but there's literally no other dev team this in touch with their community and willing to make the best game possible. Yall need to pay your respects!

>>534974090
TRVKE

>>534973280
>I’m glad to be here for the beta
You mean alpha right? We haven't hit the beta phase yet those are for almost completed games that just need bug testing.

>>534974032
he's bus with other more important stuff you insensitive prick

>post blatantly wrong shit about what Zaccie posted
>HURR DURR HE'S DEFENDING GGG

>>534963625
>not tracked
They're all tracked, even the ones that don't actually give anything but slightly better loot

>>534974409
It literally has his name attached to the chat log you nigger

>>534974409
based

>>534974273
this but unironically.
literally every other arpg is fucking slop.

ruh roh
poopies deux rise up

>>534974451
doomsissies cant afford the 30$ key, dont expect them to actually know anything about the game

>>534964324
>remove alt spam
Based
>remove scour
Cringe and have to settle for bricked items - tier when you roll thorns + light radius
>>534967000
crafting is pretty much pray for good mods on an item then exalt until bricked

>>534974697
retard

why'd he do it bros?

Will Jonathan play the ARPG made by Moonbeast aka D2 Boomers and halt development for another year or two trying to shoehorn jumping into the game? He is trying to put the action in ARPG after all.
>>534974830
KEK

>>534974830
ZAMN last GODpoch ceo looks like that???

>>534974830
This has to be fake
Why is ever fucking game i played developed by troons

>>534975297
>>534974376
Fella the original is right in the thread

>>534974830
LOL

>>534972831
>balding
>fat
>eyeglasses
>tattoos
>unshaved
gook whores would run and never look back. the only thing he has going for him is being white.

>>534975297
that is holly, she is one of the last epoch devs. just a fantastic gal.
https://youtu.be/zDKH0LIgpps?t=393

>>534975297
Holly is 100% real and the brains behind the game. She has more degrees than you have rolls of toilet paper. Show her some proper respect.

>>534975709
Why would i respect mental illness
I feel sorry for him

>but yeah it seems like every other company is trying to downsize but we are desperate for new good people and have a 3rd floor now
so what *does* GGG really do then? surely it's not the groundbreaking new content both games are getting?

>>534975709
he has a dick

>>534975963
Are you forgetting that 75% of the year are various holidays and 20% of the other days are maori holocaust remembrance days? That leaves only 5% of the year for them to do actual work. Honestly it's a miracle they can keep even one game functioning.

>>534975963
Mtx. Art assets are much harder to develop than crunching some numbers for a skill

>>534975963
they make money hand over fist.
doomers are fucking retards who actually think the poe 2 early access launch was a failure.

>>534976119
Your dick is just an enlarged clitoris.

>>534976216
Nobody thinks the launch was a failure, just everything after that.

>>534976282
based

>>534976282
this kills the chud
>captcha: PSSAY

>>534976282
he will never be a woman

>>534976406
retard

>>534976282
then why do trannies like you chop it off?

>>534976282
aha aha but he still has a dick though

>>534974830
What a fucking freak faggot. Get this retard out of my game immediately.

>>534976406
one 'bad' patch, the first patch of the early access, and it still had more players than the most popular poe 1 league.
damn bruh not looking good for poopy2

-Jonathan +Holly when?

>>534975297
The average autistic nerd is the most susceptible to the tranny psy-op. This is by design.

>>534975963
It took THREE FUCKING MONTHS for them to put a fucking map tab into the game jesus fucking christ what do all the 300 clowns do at this company??

>>534977284
there are no maps in poe2 retard

Remember when zaccie said he was gonna fix the discrepancy between Life and ES in POE2?

>>534977284
The current tabs look like shit top. Way worse than poe1. The art for the ui seems like it really took a hit

>>534976216
by your logic d4 is a better game than poe2 since it made more money.

>>534977406
the only real problem is when streamers play blue life people don't have pobs to follow so they can't play red life.

Zaccie won lol stay mad shitlibs

>>534977512
TRVKE
Rod won.

>>534977539
No the problem is that blue life has a fucking billion % nodes on the POE2 tree while life was completely removed for no fucking reason

>>534977613
GODROD

>>534977512
>what are ggg doing?
>making bank
>WELL DIABLO 4 IS ACTUALLY BETTER!!!!!!
ok.
>>534977613
rod quittted blizzard :*(
hell losted an demon

>>534977393
Yeah shitstones or whatever theyre called.

>>534977406
poe needs physical innoculation
>your max ES is 1
>immune to physical damage
if CI is allowed to exist this should exist too, you cannot dispute that

>>534978190
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

>>534978190
TRVTH BLVCKHVLE

>>534978190
they would just convert 90% of the phys damage in the game to ele and chaos.

>>534978446
you can't do that in poe2

>>534978519
https://poe2db.tw/us/Waystones_top_tier

>>534978636
can't do it no sir

Hahah yeah bros let's add mom and make it stack with es too. Also let's allow mana stackers to stack mana without investing into it on the tree. Oh that's too strong? I guess we'll completely kneecap it next league and not address fundemental issues in tree design and damage order lmao. Also es is still really strong? Oh but we removed the orbs so it should be fine now right? Life doesn't need tree passives either btw lmao. Masteries? Masteries are the worst right mark? Our new tree with form over function is MUCH better lmao. Who needs power from the tree when you have half the attributes double attribute requirements and mandatory stat stacking builds? I'm a HAIRED GENIUS!!! Chris could never lmao. Zaccie get over here and contact DM I'm done with that hasbeen ziz, totally disloyal freak. We need to disperse a message to the proles, the new supporters packs are about to release

>>534978773
retard

>>534978773
trvke

>>534978773
wait till you see what the they do to lightning spear in a couple of weeks.

>>534978773
No lies detected

Why does poe attract gachafags?

WHO THE FUCK IS BOB5 AND HOW DID THEY JUST APPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE

>>534979552
>why does the slot machine cookie clicker genre attract gachafags?

>>534979552
freaks like that infest every corner of anything you can think of.

>>534979552
PoE... IS A GACHA!!!!!!!!!!!

>>534979859
boob5

>>534979552
why does a casino attract gambling addicts
gee I dunno

>>534979859
Blame simps like Rue and Fub. They've given her a ton of exposure.

>>534979552
gambling

>>534979859
>>534980143
>>534980503
buy an ad

>>534974376
This is still just as pathetic to me.

No cap poe2 kinda cooked frfr.

>>534976656
underrated

>>534981086
the graphics are pog
the gameplay is dog

>>534978190
ok, but with es

>bob5
literally who?

https://www.twitch.tv/b0b5
do not click
its a psyop

>>534981310
I think he meant bib fortuna.

she a qt3.15 come here shawty (im Black)

sex with smokie

whats wrong with apparition shrine

>>534981754
Do this

remember when ben said poo2 is shit and it's issues cannot be handwaived with it's EA.
remember when quin, ackaizer and every other streamernigger said he was wrong and poo2 just needed more time.
guess now we know don't we.

>>534981086
unc

>>534982409
Noticers always knew, I knew before launch. Anyone that needed until now to know never really knew anything to begin with.

>>534982409
Most of the streamers sided with Ben and were relieved that they no longer had to pretend to like the game.

>>534982857
the 0.2 day 1 crashouts were pure cinema

>>534982409
this is just going to be the expedition and harvest manifesto all over again.

>>534975682
wtf I love sleepoch now

>>534982996
https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft/clip/PreciousPoliteVelociraptorRlyTho-v7fRy5RNlNSY_kzf

>>534983790
Is he 12 or what

>>534983987
no just American

>>534982409
Ben was the hero we needed

>>534983790
>THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING TRASH
TRVVVVVVVVKE!

>>534984228
trvke

>>534984452
he's going to spend a week talking about the 0.3 patch and making pobs, then he will spend 3 weeks straight playing it for 10-15 hours a day.
y'all need bedder heros
shaking my damn head

>>534983790
You call it a crash out, I call it a man standing up for his principals.

>>534974830
THIS CANT BE REAL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>534983790
damn he really did just stand right in that shit then start tweaking huh

>>534984863
There are no heroes, just part time villains.

>>534984863
>streamer streams game so he can make money even though he hates it
imagine my shock. He's still right about poe2 however.

>>534974612
>wow 131k viewers
it's already time for the annual m+ season & paid viewbots again??

>>534961665
fpbp

>>534984863
and?

>>534985525
130k is terrible

>>534985397
>streamer makes meme clip about poe 2 for money before going on vacation
imagine my shock.

>>534985590
did an expansion launch? or a new raid at least?

insert picture of the witch bog minimap covering the entire screen

>>534985739
cope, Ben will continue farming the game for content and money while shitting on it and there's nothing you can do.

>>534983987
Legit autistic probably
I clicked on his stream once and he was going off about Naruto lore

poop2 dev eats poo and likes diapers you can't come back from this

>>534986032
it's the right play, poe 2 has a much larger audience. what was 3.26 170k players? lel

>>534986120
Arguing with you is just boring nontent at this point, schizo. You've seethed and coped about Ben for 7 months now. I'm surprised you've been able to not sperg out and start calling him a roach. Nothing you say can fix the damage his streams and the clipped youtube video made from them has done to the game's reputation. Ben won biggestly.

>>534986540
retard

>>534986540
jesus christ lmao

Teasers?

>>534987754
ill tease you;)

>>534987754
They have to make content to tease first. They just started working on 0.3 yesterday, give them some time to cook.

>>534987754
2 days from now is the teaser of the teaser

>>534987893
well they better hurry up, the league launches in 17 days.
17!
not a lot of time left for them to cook.

>>534987754
Bear sex incoming.

>>534988297
Yeah I'm worried about the second breakfast situation.

>>534988353
i want flails

>>534987754
No teasers until zaccie is done with his goon sesh :)

>>534985739
Yes, Poe2 IS a meme, you have the idea. When streamers play it, they are doing it ironically

>>534970287
POO 2?
BIG SHIT

>>534983790
>rmt softcore fag when he actually has to play a game

>>534986540
>nontent
holy based

>>534988713
TRVKE!
joke will get stale when they are still playing it in 5 years, but it is what it is.

poo 2
huge stink!

>>534986540
TOTAL POO 2 GOY DESTRUCTION

been having more fun with torchlight infinite than ive had with any arpg in recent years
its about run its course for me though as im now at the point where you have to farm way too long to get any meaningful upgrades and profound 8 is pretty comfortable so meh, i could just rmt as a more effective use of my time

>>534989228
I dont believe you.

>>534989228
torchlight is a game of time

>>534989346
i can 100% confirm you dont have to buy anything and get to endgame but you kinda gotta get addicted and spend a lot of time playing
also the game never dipped below 144 fps which automatically makes it better than poop

>>534989558
Im not buying your Korean coombait.

>>534989716
if you never played it itll be fun nigga, and its a high speed game not slow ass poop2 or poopan quest2 bullshit

>>534990350
retard

>>534990350
>not only is it p2w but its zoom zoom zoomer shit too

>>534990636
i won and i didnt pay shrug

>shilling shartlight unironically
lmfao

>>534990972
1 have you played it
2 whats wrong with it
dont answer 2 if you didnt answer yes to 1

>>534976282
I would posit the inverse is actually true, that is, all clits are just tiny dicks. Penis envy is real because women know that they have tiny dicks

>>534994116
biological retard

>>534994116
trvke

whats up with the insane loading times and black screens

where the drip ggg im literally playing grim dawn and some stalker atm

TWO GAMES
ONLY ONE OF THEM GOOD
AND IT'S NOT POO 2

>>534998647
the other one is not good either

You left we with no choice GGG

>>534999480
is this Diablo immortal

>>534999576
worse, the d2 remake

>>534999480
why is that dude on the left wearing girl armor

>>534999576
Diablo 2 Ressurected

lil gup

ZAGGIE FIX IT

The ship has already crashed with no survivors. It's time to bury our dead and move on. poe 3 will fix everything.

>>534989228
go for ss20 or you are a pussy

MH WILDS IS MOGGING US
HELLDIVERS 2 IS MOGGING US

ZACCIE DO SOMETHING

>>535001714
*mehs*

>>535002303
is this mh?

17 days until kino

>>535003371
But it's only 9 days until the 21st?

>>535003631
the math maths

>>535003631
shut up holly, this is a lily thread

so, are they waiting until gamescom to release any info at all

>>535003963
You know how they have that thing where game devs will get together and make a game overnight?
That's how poo2 development works. They can't tease info yet because they haven't started working on it.

i got baited into thinking a beta was going to be updated

>>534962501
The Well was a Chris idea, he always said he regretted not keeping the D2 healer NPC system and opting for auto heal when entering a safe area.

>>535003856
Do you're self a favor and jerk of to a tranny that goes by c0rpsethot aka Eva and you will never feel the urge to chill that skinny nerd for free

>>535004667
Chris hasn't worked on PoE 2 for years. Stop scapegoating him.

>>534985950
World First Raid Clear event thing + Drops.

>>535004926
So? this doesn't dispute that a lot of his core ideas were the foundation of PoE 2.

>>534999480
why amazon is a troon

>>535004664
But they called it early access so they can just slow walk development over 6 more years and only have to put out updates a couple times a year.

>>535005637
and they've had plenty of time to undo everything if they disagreed with Chris' philosophies. They clearly don't.

>>535003963
damn I didn't realise the proximity, those dicks will wait

I legit cannot stomach the combat of poe2. Spellcasting is such a fucking chore holy shit. Did they make every lightning skill feel like a wet noodle on purpose?

I like poe 2 gameplay. Its feels like actual game unlike poe 1

>>535010571
At least lightning skills sometimes deal damage, fire skills are actually unusable

>>535010571
Archmage nerf GGG triple tap had to target every other lightning spell barring orb of storms. Lightning Spear isn't a spell so it scales well actually
>>535010952
The triple tap from the cast on ignite and freeze nerfs, though the only ice spell that ever dealt damage was comet

There is no way they don't buff a bunch of things in 0.3. 0.2 balance was so bad that most people didn't even finish the campaign

>>535011581
Seems they wanted their target lategame dps to not be more than 500k last I heard so I would expect slight buffs and a heavy handed lightning spear nerf

>>535011380
Yeah I just started up a new character in dawn of the hunt to practice league start and holy shit leveling with spark was bad. Made it to act 2 and just quit because I was bored to tears. Either you stand there and trade half a dozen hits with a rare or just have to constantly dodge roll. Worst combat I've ever experienced. They do realize you have to be able to get off your skills to do damage to the mobs right? And endlessly kiting dodging or hit trading doesn't make for fun gameplay?

>>535011975
>slight buffs
That would be strange. The community's reaction to 0.2 was very strong, and I hope they are just trying to find their footing because the game is still unfinished. I'm expecting some significant changes before release because that's literally one of the main reasons for having early access.

>>535012057
leveling with spark pre-archmage was already kind of rough since Spark was a meh dps ability unless you were buffing with storm, sigil, flame wall, orb. For some reason they decided spark AND archmage needed to get tapped though. At any rate Sorc gameplay seemed to be shit like you srs or use icewall/orb of frost to get space from rares so you can sit down and use spark or some other damage skill but using like 10 abilities to kill mobs pretty much sucks
>>535012379
I think it's a question of
>Vision
Jonathan REALLY wants the peak dps to be closer to 500k than 10s of millions, but obviously the community not only finds that not fun but also unplayable since rares will genuinely not die at 500k dps. It's definitely a conundrum since the vision is pretty clear but their vision for the game frankly isn't very good. Depends how hard GGG is willing to cave on reversing mana stack nerfs, cast on nerfs, gas arrow, conc skills (will be dead anyway since no quiver/bow scaling), and how heavy they're willing to be on LS. LS is genuinely OP but it's a good baseline for what feels good to play

>>535014112
I'm not a fan of millions of DPS but even I think 0.2 was too much. They really need to find a middle ground. I don't think people would be against this vision if it were a little more polished and not so forced. They should allow people to deal a lot of damage, just not at the level of poe 1.

>>535014608
Upper dps limit being 1-2 million is not terrible for the game outside of god-tier gear, but then things like Leech and the way enemy damage and speed scale will need to be completely changed to match a slower game speed. Fair to do less damage if enemies aren't coked up

>>535014934
>but then things like Leech and the way enemy damage and speed scale will need to be completely changed to match a slower game speed
Such changes are exactly what I would expect from updates in early access. It just doesn't feel like a finished product, just a port from Poe 1 without much thought given to how it will work in Poe 2.

>0.3 rolls around
>Lightning spear triple nerfed
>Other top lightning skills double nerfed
>A bunch of new skill gems added
>One of the new skill gems is another lightning skill
>It becomes the OP meta skill for the whole league because 65% shock is trivial to obtain
>Physical, Cold, Fire and Chaos skills all unplayable still
Plebs just truly cannot comprehend Jonathan's vision

>a fucking billion dps
is this really the state of NU poe? people are alright with this? zoom no brain billion dps screen clear div/hour mentality?

>>535016025
>people will defend this

>>535016025
Poe 1 morons literally want ‘I win’ button and that's just sad

>>535015363
Pretty much, although the low leech numbers and "leech resistance" feels like they're trying to fix a poe1 problem in a different game. Players already complain as it is that leech kind of sucks and the lack of overleech access already means it's not as great as in 1

>>535016025
>scale ES and hit/lightning based skill to the moon
>it does billions of damage
Like every other almost top of the meta ability?

>>535016025
nothing wrong with this

>>535016381
Did someone make a strong build 2 months into the league? OMG I'm going insane. How dare they?!?!

>a
>fucking
>billion
>dps
what a joke, poebabs really need to 1 click win huh. this is not the vision

poo2 is cooked

>no teasers
They have nothing to show for.

>>535025041
>>535025576
LET *CLAP* THEM *CLAP* COOK *CLAP*

>>535025576
you want a teaser? il give you a teaser
>unzips pants
>bends over
>PFFFFFTTTTTTPLOPSPLSHPLOPPFFFT
0.3 coming August 29

>>534983790
Ascending as the warrior was so fucking aids at release. People really forgot how fucking terrible it felt to play that class.

>535026784
A grown fucking man in his 30's typed this post and thought it was acceptable to submit it.

>>534985950
Race to world first, in which the guild that spends the most on WoW tokens wins.

>>535027050
>tone policing
>on 4chan
>not even 4channel where they have to think of the heckin advertizerinos
>anno domini 1+2024
>not embracing the poop in
>17
ngmitbqhwyfncoasfr

I remember smokie crashing out in 0.1 and completely quitting both PoE 1 and PoE 2 because how bad her fire build was

>>535027678
Incredibly brown-coded post.

>>535027013
retard

>>535028193
Not an argument.

ITS UP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMYoMIqmrMU

it's really over, isn't it...

>>534961665
true, but only because PoE1 Ruthless is so much fun and has so much to do

poo1 lost
sleepoch lost
d4 lost
poe2 won
tq2 won
grim dawn won

>>534973280
GGG deserves more hate, honestly.
Delay the game an extra two years
Customer support is there to attack customers
Pricing a game that heavily for being an Alpha build
Artificially boost non poe streamers to get more eyeballs on your game
Hype the game up as a masterpiece and it just revealed as a master piece of crap.

what harvest manifesto does to a mf

mazed+ s3 has started and I can finally fuck off from this subreddit. fuck y'all niggers, fuck schizo stalker faggot and fuck jonatroon and mark.
finna dab out, cya never retards lmao.

>>535004667
>>535005637
>Autistic bald retard wants something in the game
>Forces it in because he's CEO
>Literally leaves the company
>New retards in charge don't just INSTANTLY remove it
This company is... DOOMED

>>535004667
Chris is going to make one of the most disgusting games to play in the arpg market in the future, and neets Wil gaslight themselves into liking it.

>>535022694
>>535016025
Hitting 1b DPS was possible for several years now, how new are you fags?

>>535032205
bye jrv see you for 0.3

>>535032205
see you tomorrow

>ruetoo
>ben
>cutedog
>jungroan
Why is the asian PoE community so toxic?

>>535032467
that was jrv#2499, I'm still here.

>>535032205
Am i supposed to give a shit?

>>534961530 (OP)
did he die?

>>535032242
>and chris said 'people should want to go back to town to identify their loot not refill their flasks'
the well change is the last publicly known design decision chris wilson ever made.

>incinerate chronomancer
Im playing this in 0.3 Looks crazy fun. Hopefully they buff Chrono aswell making this build even better
https://youtu.be/7QK7yxDI2jI?si=Ddh_PKBjRhKfU4vF

only discord fags posting currently
why do you feel the need to use the thread when you can just post in your server instead?

>>535038624
girls cant be fags

>535038624
>t. discord tranny

>>535038429
Chris will create the most gruesome skinner box arpg known to mankind. Think of that rat experiment, add a lot of weight, complexity for the sake of it, nu fun, no drops, a class system with streamer loot seed on steroids and you being the neet in of the gutter. You will witness how enough other neets are looking up to the beautiful streamer cast that sits all day on the top shelf grooming the drops to them, while you scrap together what ever dirt and dust to feed your belly. His game will be the most aggravating experience arpg players will ever know. You will suffocate under his weight, and others will ask for more.

>blessed orbs should be introduced in 0.3
Y/N?

>>535039069
Yes, but they are called blessed orbs of the vaal. You only get one chance and it corrupts the item.

>>535039069
only if they are relatively rare, as not to devalue the ground loot

>>535039279
Ehhh, fuck off

Johnathan retard

I just rolled 100 kirac missions, saw 1 einhar and 2 groves. what kind of nigger shit is this

>>535039069
They should bring back alterations, removing them was a failed experiment, all it did was replace alteration spamming with picking up every single blue base you want, SSF fags even pick up whites and trans-aug them.

it's been 3 days since I last played poe1 and I can feel the every essence of mother nature harmonize with me

Smile if you're the greatest game developer of all time.

>>535041737
why is his head wider than it is high

>like new entrance i made to my hideout
>accidentally pressed reclaim all as i was closing the ui
welp

I have learned an important lesson tonight to never craft my own gear. I just spent about 200 ichors each time to roll on my chest, then every single time out 6 conflict orbs I hit the wrong one

>>535043262
Average /poeg/ poster moment

>>535043262
lol

>>535016025
Nothing wrong with 1billion dps when bosses have 30billion hp

>>535044224
BUT A BILLION IS A HUGE NUMBER YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT MUCH DAMAGE IT SOUNDS TOO STRONG FOR MY LIMITED REDDIT BRAIN! WE NEED TO LOWER DAMAGE NOW

>>535041880
PEDs

>>535044286
people can joke and meme about blizzard but they understand the concept of power fantasy.
grinding out the weekend to minmax your build so you get do a few trilly dps is one of the most goated feelings you can have.

>>535044472
the absolute number doesn't really matter. if 1 hit deals 1% of a bosses life it doesn't matter if that 1 hit is a trillion or just 500, the outcome is the same. reddit-brained retards are just too stupid to see it that way.

>>535040203
noooooo but the hecking meaningful ground loot im too stupid to craft items i just want to pick up every base and slam it and post it on reddit when i finally get something good

ground loot will always either be shit or too good. there is no middle ground.
right now it's shit AND you can't craft things, so poo2 sucks ass.

>>535044815
trvke

if ground loot is the end-all be-all then you can't really add powerful and interesting ways to acquire items. if anything overshadows ground loot in item generation, it's just gonna be shit again.
and if ground loot is to be good then people will have kitted out their characters too fast.
there is no middle ground.

>>535044815
its unironically in a decent spot in poo1 with overquality / fractured bases and well rolled items from some mechanics like heist, kingsmarch and mercs. the item tier mechanic would also work well in poe1. synth items would also be really good ground loot if they made 3 mod items drop naturally in some places and removed beast rolling and harvest synthing because that shit is retarded. elevated items would also be a really cool drop if there was a way to tell if an item either was elevated or at least had a good chance of being elevated

>>535045220
ground loot works well as crafting bases or ingredients and as decent leaguestart items

>>535045220
you pick up the top 2-3 bases while you are levelling.
then you pick up the top base.
then you pick up the top bases with max ilvl.
then you pick up the top bases with max ilvl and high tier rolls.
the ground loot system in poe 2 is what people were demanding for years.

>>535045545
Yeah but the items that drop are just the crafting bases, you ain't gonna pick up an item like that and just wear it past day 2. Memory strands are fucking trash btw.
The whole poo2 premise is "pick up an item, maybe slam an exalt, get lucky, and wear it", which is giga cringe.

why are people still arguing about ground loot when Ruthless has solved it completely?

>>535045220
>then people will have kitted out their characters too fast.
Solvable problem, add harder content and more juicing.
POE1 has this pretty decently desu, you're good with just picking up ground loot up to a point in your progression, and then it becomes more sensible to do simple crafts, then once you're done with those you're ready to move on to demanding crafts, all the while being able to find increasingly difficult content.
POE2 just doesn't have sufficient juicing for difficulty so you honestly don't even need loot. You can do so much with just a pretty baseline, cheapo setup.

>>535045692
except you're only gonna pick up 2-3 good items in a whole poo2 league, and sit in your hideout and ID thousands of trash ground loot item. not very appealing, if you ask me.

>>535045801
the whole point here is that ground loot (equipment) stops being exciting fairly early, and shitters hate the premises of having to make good items in somewhat convoluted ways.

>>535045819
which is exactly what people said about poe1, ignoring the fact that most of the items they buy from trade week 1 are things people pick up off the ground.

>>535045220
>you can't really add powerful and interesting ways to acquire items
Breach, expedition (recomb), ritual (omens). What is blud tambout?

>>535045924
>the whole point here is that ground loot (equipment) stops being exciting fairly early
Yeah they didn't really hit the spot with tiered gear. They probably need to add >20% quality items or tiered bases that grant more favorable rolls like stranded gear or something.
I don't even particularly mind POE2 loot personally, I could play a game where gear is mostly ground loot and jackpots are things like perfect jews, GCPs, uniques and so on, but they need to retune it. Right now it's neither ruthless enough nor good for deterministic gearing, just in some gay middle where nothing is really rare but crafting projects are tedious and annoying.

>>535045705
ruthless is shit thougheverbeit

Zero point fucking three

>>535045220
Okay but why does ground loot even have to be good? Isn't the entire point of a crafting system to make shitty items good? If ground loot can unironically compete with crafting outside of early game stages what even is the fucking point of crafting shit?

>>535046352
>Okay but why does ground loot even have to be good?
Cuz it's exciting if it can be.

>>535046252
only if you suck hard
Ruthless is the most fun I've ever had in this kind of game, better than D2

>>535040203
retard

>>535046502
wrong, even zaccie disagrees btw

>>535046352
i never said it had to be. poo2 defenders, redditors and jonathan said it should be. they are all retards. I love going overboard in making good items that have no way of dropping.

ZERO updates
POINTless game
THREE non-existing new acts

>>534973280
PoE Derangement Syndrome

poo2 wants you to act as if the next item you identify could be good, without the item ever actually being good.

0.3 is going to be gigantic.
We expect at the very least
>Shadow
>Druid
>Act 4 but likely Act 4-6
>Either Abyss or Harbingers
>An additional endgame breach boss (there'll 5 just like in PoE 1)
>Big overhaul to the endgame mapping system, towers significantly changed or even removed, we'll see
And then the usual stuff like balance overhaul. We gon be eating good PoE 2 chads.

>>535046557
you can find a good tiered base with 2 decent affixes, fracture one of them, recomb for the fracture and 2 good affixes and then finish the other side with metacrafting.
instead of spamming alts for an hour in your hideout you are playing the game.

>>535046749
>>Either Abyss or Harbingers
It's so obviously delve/precursor-related
>pit/hole
>winter king (Aul)

>>535046785
but then you'd be crafting again and the ground loot item was again just a base for crafts (which suck in poo2)
i'd rather have a way to get what i want, rather than get lucky to progress.

>>535046785
inb4 shitters cope about le 1% recomb without understanding how it actually works (especially with fractured mods)

>>535046868
its green tinted and sovereign of the well = ulaman, but yeah, i bet we will get some more winter of the world lore

>>535046871
spamming thousands of alts isn't exactly engaging gameplay.

>>535030069
I dont like poe1, but I admit I miss gem exp.

>>535047065
it's not supposed to be. get an autoclicker, sit through the 10 minutes of it spamming, and get your item.
I'd rather use 2000 alts than ID 2000 items because guess what, IDing 2000 items also isn't exactly engaging.
the only alternative would be to just straight up buy items from an NPC for a fixed amount of alts.

>>535047223
retard

>>535046470
>better than D2
not a high bar

>>535047223
why wouldn't i just rmt the items i want?

>>535046712
The system would work better if magic and rare items dropped identified and you could just filter for the mods that you're looking for like in Last Epoch, but I guess that doesn't work psychologically since ID scrolls simulate a gambler pulling another level on the slot machine.

>>535047223
>autoclicker for alts
Does blud know?

>>535047562
Does blud know what? I wrote my own clicker that stops when you hit whatever you want. I've been using it since watchstone times, i wrote it to roll watchstones, and have been improving on it since then.

>>535047557
because why the fuck would i spend real-world currency on virtual items? that's just retarded. especially since we're talking about blue items here.

>>535047782
you are breaking the tos anyway. why would you waste your time slop farming shit orbs when you could spend a few bucks and skip the whole process?

>>535047935
the tool i wrote can also be used in this way:
it reads clicks, and passes on the click to poe, until you hit whatever you want then it blocks your clicks going through. that does no technically break the TOS. what now?

>>535047935
are you brown?

Is https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Dawn%20of%20the%20Hunt really how people buy items in these games? This seems awkward as fuck.

>>535047935
please saaaaaaar just buy my vartuaaaal goods and make my fameleee able to have curryyyyy

>crafting with alts is great, you just need to use a 3rd party macro so you don't actually have to craft with the alts! OMG I WOULD NEVER RMT!!!! thats kills the spirt of the game
>>535048103
i'm making fun of his obvious retardation.

>>535048156
i hope they improve the trade site for 0.3. it's missing some important features

>>535048156
Yeah, it sucks cock.
Some people also use a trading discord to do mass trades, and I think there's also some kind of plugin that works for an external site/discord that's not the official one, and that has extra mass-listing features, but I don't use those.
There's also an ingame automated market for fungible items (Currency Exchange) which is a lot less cringe than the trade site.

>>535048237
it is not great, it fucking sucks.
but the alternative of automated use of 2000 alts doesn't just suck, it makes me blow my brains out. it's picking up and identifying 2000 items off of the ground.

>>535047664
So you're botting?

>>535048385
umm no actually NO!! it's different! i'm actually a white person doing white people things, you are sir are brown!

>>535048385
I wouldn't call a program that doesn't let you click when you hit what you want a bot.

>>535048502
you said autoclicker, you describe a bot.

>>535048630
yep, sometimes i automate alteration rolling. problem, bud?

>>535048501
>you are sir are brown!
brown lol

>>535048385
>he doesn't know about beast multiboxers, poesmoother and tradebots

>alts are good! when you bot.. POO2 BAD!!!!
kek

>>535048946
Trvkenado

>>535048946
as i said, alts fucking suck. they are still better than picking up 2000 items off the ground and identifying them.
the best (and most fair) uncheatable way for it to work would obviously to have either fixed benchcrafts or a vendor to buy your blue bases from for a set amount of alterations.

>>535048946
alts
>you don't have to hoard as many bases (and buy more stash tabs)

no alts
>you have to hoard as many bases (and buy more stash tabs)

It's clear why alts have been removed: greed.

harvest when

>>535049060
but then you have to farm thousands of alterations, i would rather bot that. who wants to run maps and pick up thousands of items?

>>535049187
calling a clicker a bot is kinda wild, honestly. a bot implies some sort of intelligence in chaining together different steps when doing something, which a clicker doesn't have.
picking up 20 stacks of alterations is way less of a hassle than picking up 3x2 or 4x2 bases, identifying them, appraising them and then getting rid of them. also, faustus can sell you alterations if you'd rather do it this way.

>>535039387
>as not to devalue the ground loot
Kinda hard to go below completely useless, ngl.

>>535049391
it's against the terms of service. alteration orbs are shit, alt spamming is shit. they were always shit thats why half the crafting systems they added to the game either give you a deterministic affix or adjust the weighting of the mod pool.

>>535049391
Its botting because your ”clicker” knows when to stop clicking
Just because its a simple bot doesnt mean it isnt a bot.

>check tft's poop2 shop
>every single item looks the same
so... when is that game getting interesting mods/interactions?

>>535049934
probably the first endgame expansion or when they add ubers.

>>535050093
I will doompost until then I guess

>>535049934
>tft
Who gives a fuck. Belton crafted some insane items this league with the new essences. You're just dumb

do you guys think slash jonathan's throat will be racing on 0.3 launch?

>>535050330
post an example then

>>535049173
Harvest in PoE2 with even better results. I would love to see the absolute meltdown from neets who know nothing but grinding for currency. These retarded beasts that get easily gaslighted by streamers will rail against it like there is no tomorrow. I'd fully expect people livestreaming their rage fit that end in them jumping out the window on camera.

>>535050749
the people who loved harvest weren't crafters though, they farmed atoll and sold augments on tft all league.
current crafting in poe 1 is stronger than 3.13 harvest anyway.

I like how Poe 2 is more accessible so that crafting is available and valid not only in the endgame. Harvest with the same balance will be very nice.

>>535050472
>>535051484

>>535051484
>no onslaught. No tailwind. No ailment immunity, no eldritch implicits
Poe2 itemization is so gay

>>535050472
>>535051484
>>535051712

>>535051756
that shit was added to poe 1 a few years ago chudbeit

>>535049734
i dunno what your problem is, poe1 has clickers and poo2 has flat out bots that farm items for people. what would you rather have?

>>535051484
>>535051712
>>535051961
barebones ass items
yea I think I'll wait another 2 years until jumping on the poo2 train

>>535051756
let em cook

>>535052045
i'm sure you can provide a link to the poe2 bots that farm t16 maps.

>>535045696
yeah thats how it should be. my interpretation of "ground loot" is a useful gear item which you find on the ground so loot is more diverse than just currency orbs. the idea of finding a bis gg item on the ground is so fucking retarded that i didnt even realize anyone could mean that when they talk about ground loot. i mean how would that even work. if its a common drop then you are done with gearing a few days into the league. if its rare then you just trade for it 99% of the time in which case theres literally no difference between the guy picking the item up from the ground or crafting it. except gear for meta builds will be super expensive and ssf will be unplayable. thats fucking retarded and even worse than poe2 0.1 where you have some control over what you slam at least. anyone who thinks that just wants to go back to being a retarded little kid and playing diablo with no worries other than needing to do your boring homework for half an hour. grow up

>>535051591
what crafting

>>535047423
was just a figure of speech

>>535052323
Implying there is crafting in poo1 LOL

The only arpgs with real crafting are Last Epoch and Diablo 4.

yo this poe2 crafting is so fire!!!

Harvest n*ggers still wrecking havoc on the community

>>535052484
that was me in before i vibe coded an autoclicker.

>>535052356
I look like this

Harvest was a mistake
The trade manifesto was a mistake
Jonathan was a mistake

>>535051973
Okay and? Same dev team nigger. Prior to that we had influence bases for years. In poo2? Nothing but life and res and a shitty knock off of the d2 rune system

>>535052356
be my gf

>>535052889
and influence bases were added years after the game was released.
the point here is to have a good base game they can build on every league.

>>535052207
No, i can't because i don't bot. i program the "bot" i use myself, and that goes above my knowledge.

>>535053524
so basically you made up a cope about botting in poe 2?

>>535053158
Why start from scratch if you already have everything ready just transfer it 1:1?

The amount of stacked dicks dropped from the cloister scarab isn't increased by t16.5's more currency modifier, right?

>2 weeks away
>zero teasers
>zero trailers
>zero communication
>zero hype
it plopped before it even came out, xisters....

>zero teasers
why lie?

>nitpicking paid shill jeet fag
0.00001 bharats have been added to your account, good sir!

>>535053654
It's pretty evident when you see trains of bots with similar garbage names that just end in a different letters walking around in town. you're coping if you think poo2 does not have a botting problem.

>>535054057
You never posted them

>>535053657
because adding invincible builds with 200 million dps to an early access game with the only end game content being a handful of quest bosses would be fucking retarded.

>>535054141
link to a video of these bot trains in poe 2?

>make up shit
>get called out
>you are brown saar
how very original

>>535054279
>i will deny said issue exists until someone else fulfills the burden of proof
it's ok little man, if you stick the head in the sand the bad bots can't hurt you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJ_dqRPqrQ

>>535016381
nigger essence of arpg is having I win button and overwhelming game with numbers. if you want "balanced" game you are in the wrong genre. play mmorpg or something.
>>535044224
truthnuked

>>535054816
It's definitely insane how there are still faggots coping that both games aren't overrun by bots generating currency and selling it for real dollars to some rich kids in the first world.
What do they get from denying this? Are they secretly mad that their stash balance gets easily mogged by RMT?

>>535054816
>russian moon runes
wow what a surprise

Play SSF
Don't worry about bots
Don't worry about chinese
Ignore all streamers
Admit that Gujurat is the best part of the country

>>535054816
thats not how bots work, that is someone running a meme command prompt next to the game to bait people into downloading a keylogger.
multiboxing exists, so if you want to talk about that, fair point.

>show proof, saar!
>*shows proof*
>this not real saar you deceiver bitch!!

>>535055681
kek that guys was right
>>535054761

>>535055395
Imagine voluntarily locking yourself up with the online casino.

>>535055462
the inevitable goalpost shift from "show proof" to "your proof is fake, show real proof"
you can enter "poe2 bot" into youtube and find a shiload of different bots, and a lot of them are legit. every game under the sun is getting botted, people where botting wow in 2003, what makes you think botting poo2 in 2025 is impossible

>>535055739
I'm always caged when playing poe

>>535055395
smokie approves

Is ruetoo gonna have another meltie today?

>>535055736
good morning sir

>>535055846
poe 2 seems to have the same problem poe 1 had, bots just don't seem to work outside of extremely simple tasks. for years the best poe 1 bot was just used to farm exalts in the campaign. it's why currency trading bots are so dominant, they actually work.

>>535056282
who are we kidding, the chinks got bots to boot and it shows in the economy/rmt sites. gupta here just pretends it isn't so so his crown jewel poo2 stays pure and clean

>>535056467
the chink bots don't work either, go to my discord you send paypal i give bot! you can actually go to botting sites and read their seethe over all this shit. bots in poe have always been garbage for whatever reason, probably why multiboxing was so prevalent in the early days.

Diablo 4 surprised the Hell out of me

I’ve always been more of an FPS guy. Used to be super competitive. Unreal Tournament was one of my first games, then I got heavily into Counter-Strike for 2 decades. That was my main thing.

Like many sweaty shooter players, I always needed a second game to unwind. For me, that was usually World of Warcraft. Been playing on and off since Wrath. Outside of that, though, I never really branched out into other genres.

The only ARPG I ever touched before was Diablo 3, and even that I bounced off after finishing the campaign. I didn’t really “got into it” at the time. I also tried Path of Exile years ago, but it just didn’t click with me, maybe it was the story, maybe the complexity, not sure. Though I will say, the Diablo universe/lore has always intrigued me more than PoE’s. (also it just confuses me so much with all amount of things you need to know and do)

When Diablo 4 was announced, I was interested, but then all the bad press started rolling in. Reviews, Reddit threads, YouTube rants, you know the deal. That pretty much killed my hype. I even considered preordering PoE 2, but thankfully my brain kicked in and reminded me it’s a free game. I held off.

Fast forward to now: a lifelong buddy of mine bought D4 recently and told me he was enjoying it. That was enough of a push. I remembered how fun it was blasting through D3 with another friend, so I grabbed D4 on sale with the Vessel of Hatred DLC and dove in.

24 hours later, I’m through the campaign, level 57 on Penitent, running a Quill Volley build on Spiritborn and I’m completely hooked.

I wake up thinking about playing. I watch build videos on my breaks. I’ve been looking into lore, reading guides, planning my next spec. I’m going full nerd mode, and I love it.

Honestly, I wish I had ignored the hate earlier. This game is exactly what I needed. Perfect second game to unwind with after a workday (I WFH, so lunch sessions might be happening too…).

>>535056789
obviously you're not gonna get a bot. the chinks who do have a bot would be retarded to give you the bot, they'd rather sell you the currency/items because that's a continuous revenue stream, as opposed to competing against your bot with their bot

>>535056789
SRS and summoners would probably the easiest to set up bots. The skills fight for themselves and as soon as they hit maps, they are good to go.

>>535053798
Saars anyone know?

Where are the bloody teasers?

BOTS AREN'T REAL IF I CAN'T RUN ONE!

>>535057171
i always assumed there was something wrong with poes spaghetti code preventing proper botting. compare the old poe bots to d3 bots, it was night and day.

>>535057673
if you think poo2 can't be botted you're retarded. poo2 is getting botted since 0.1

BOTS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>535057742
yeah currency flipping bots, thats what people have been saying.
https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/path-of-exile-2/path-of-exile-2-bots-program/
find me a bot that auto farms maps, or is it just the secret ccp china numba1 super bots that can do that?

>>535058101
even that website you linked has bots or multibox-bots on it, what exactly are you trying to say? poo2 bots don't exist, in any capacity?

>>535057040
nobody is this retarded, must be some bot shill
actiblizz has been a money-sucking scam company for years

>>535058206
>poo2 bots don't exist, in any capacity?
reading comprehension that fucking bad? lel the first sentence of the post
>yeah currency flipping bots, thats what people have been saying.

>>535049601
retard

>be Kelvynn PoE
>play only Whispering Ice builds for 9 years since 2.1
>literally no other builds for 9 years
>suddenly PoE 2 releases whispering ice as a "chase unique"
>doesnt give you flat damage
>forces you into a consuming ailment playtyle
>its a storm stationary storm that doesnt move around
>the int scaling is ass which is what made whispering ice fun to begin with
>try it out for 3 days
>keep trying to make it work and somehow fun
>realise its built up to feel like ass because its a so called "payoff" skill like hexblast (nobody is gonna use it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOIg8FiJdmI

poo lost, poo1 and poo2, flushed down the toilet of history after renegating and humiliating it's former leader Chris Wilson in favour of their new chinese overlords, now poo finds itself in the ocean of despair while 'poch, diablo 4 and titan quest fertilize the minds and souls of billions of arpg fans, truly a shame

>>535062308
retard

>lose all your money on shitcoins
>pivot to videogames to cope
>post Bobo out of habbit

You can't be serious. What a monumental waste of time. The absolute state of this thread. You think PoE2 is gonna fail? You think Jonathan lost? You think Chris "won"?

Let me tell you something, you utter cretin. The fact that you're here, posting this drivel, is all the proof I need. PoE1 is dead. It's a fossil. A relic of a bygone era, kept alive on life support by a dwindling player base of boomer frogs and tradebots. You love PoE1 because you're scared of change. You're scared of a real ARPG. You're scared of something that's not a glorified walking simulator with an endlessly complex but ultimately pointless skill tree.

And Jonathan Rogers? Lost? The man's a genius. He's building a real game. A game with a vision. A game that's not afraid to shed the baggage of its past. Meanwhile, you're all here, clutching your poe1 league starts and crying about how it's not the same anymore. It's not the same because it's not a good game anymore. It's a bloated, nonsensical mess of a game with more visual noise than a Michael Bay movie.

PoE2 is going to be the ARPG of a generation. It's going to be a game with a real identity, with a clear direction. It's going to be a game that respects the player's time, not a game that forces you to spend 80% of your time in a spreadsheet. It's going to be the death of your little cozy game, and you're all just too blind to see it. Mark my words. You'll all be playing PoE2, and you'll all be begging for Jonathan's forgiveness.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play a real game. Something that's not a walking simulator with a gambling addiction. Something that's not a walking simulator with a gambling addiction with a side of microtransactions. Something that's not PoE.

>>535062801
Projection the post
Im in big green, ive bought and held for years. I dont have to worry about money

Will they flush poo2 down the toilet?
Do they have anything available that could remotely turn around the disaster of poo2's launch?

>>535062250
>Put in payoff skills
>The buildup isn't worth the payoff
Why is GGG like this?

>>535062947
THERMOBARIC TRVTH PAYLOAD

>>535062947
Trvth payoff

>>535062947
tvrdnvke

>>535054178
Make them not invincible you tard. Creative itemization isn't a guaranteed route to being op. You can design the game in any fashion and balance around those things. GGG lacks the talent to do so and this fucking simplistic baby game of an arpg is all the proof we need. Can't balance the game so they just gut all creativity from it and start from scratch. Guess what comes next?

Playing SSF is pointless when GGG balances item drops around trading. It makes more sense to play trade league and just buy what you absolutely need if you want an extra challenge.

>>535067152
>Guess what comes next?
ummmm you seething everyday for the next 8 years?

>>535062308
TRVTH BRVMSTVNE

>>535067560
trvke

I'm going through the PoE 2 uniques list and am findng some absolute gems
I actually forgot how floored I was when I first looked through these uniques and I'm experiencing it again

>>535067431
retard

>>535068003
i don't get it?

>>535068003
its going to be a key item for self-curse templar
source: Fetish Ward notable

>>535068003
HUNDREDS OF BUILDING DEFINING UNIQUES

it's a good thing most uniques are garbage because

>>535068197
>30% increased (not more) damage per curse on you
Now thats a payoff

>>535068548
retard

>>535068003
did you forget it is a poe 1 unique?

>>535068717
how could he forget something he didnt know in the first place? hes a newfag

>>535069000
trips of trvke

>>535068003
that's just there for when they fuck up and self-reflection builds sneak back into the game

>>535068003
all created by the pajeet never forget that

>>535068591
He's right thoughever

>>535068003
Ggg has no new ideas . They don't even understand their old ones

>>535072058
retard

>>535068717
>we should bloat up our game with shit poe1 unique because uhhhhhh
>noooooo you can't add influenced bases or implicits itttttsssss aaaaa bettttaaaa!!!

>>535072058
TRVKE

Let.

Them.

Cook.

>>535072351
retard

>>535072861
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/lich-necromancer-updates-coming-to-last-epoch-august-21st/78615

>>535072885
Absolutely seething. I love you you little autistic mutt.

>>534961530 (OP)
https://youtu.be/fGf_RYghPhA
Chieftain bros...

>>535072351
when were influence bases even added to poo1?

>>535072957
problem is the game has no defensive layering unless you're a sentinel and get more from your trees than any other class in the entire game can build at all

I am all in on poch.

>>535072957
>flicker strike without going through a billion hoops
poch won

>>535030069
GAWD DAYUM look at those DSLs

>>535074131
At least in the videos in that link that doesn't look like flicker strike at all. I'm not seeing it.

>>535072957
>>535074131
>>535074536
>With built-in movement to close the gap on your foes with no cooldown, you may find yourself stepping through the shadows, rapidly eliminating foes like flickers of light in the night.
>flickers
fucking shameless

>>535075081
Yeah but watch the videos, it doesn't look like poe strike. It looks pretty boring desu.

>>535075216
I never really trust those. ggg does the same thing, taking a character straight off the beach with no ms, attack speed, cast speed, gear, and often even lacking support gems, to demonstrate a skill. it might play just like the clip on their web page or it could play completely different.

>>535030069
What's the point of these videos when 0.3 is already done?

>want to play poe but the league is over and everyone quit
what do....

It's unironically over GGG have absolutely no clue how to make a new game fun. This will be a doomfeast for the ages.

>>535073571
When was shackles of the wretched added?

>>535076952
>will be
lil nigga it has been doomfeast since the shitshow of a launch.
doomGODS are always right.

DoomGods reign eternal

>>535075216
Yeah the first clip uses it in melee range only so its a bad way to show it off, hopefully it has some range which can be extended by MS and tree nodes

>>535076896
Poch in a week just wait.

>>535076989
months after the game was officially released, wiki says 1.0.5.

>>535076896
play battlefield 6 tomorrow

>>535076896
>league is over and everyone quit
>when the currency exchange has an endless source of items you could ever need to perfect a character

Is Poo 2 out of Early Access yet? If not did they add any more acts yet?

>>535079658
At this rate it'll be out of early access by 2037, if it even gets there.

jonathan you fucking black nigger from the deepest amazon jungle PLEASE ADD IDOLS AND ALT ASCENDANCIES AS PRIVATE LEAGUE OPTIONS NOW!!!!! please

>>535077523
And how about the rest of the lineup of shit unifies they decided to dump into the game?

*kills Path of Exile 2*
*kills Titan Quest 2*
Are we hyped for the new season of the best ARPG of all time releasing next week?

>>535079658
>xe wants more resistance penalties

>>535080874
>unifies
Uniques***

>>535080973
it's going to be kino, it starts before the poe 2 livestream.
going to be the biggest twitch drop of all time.

>>535080973
Lich rework looks hype, I'm pretty excited.

>>535080973
did they add anything to the endgame yet?

>>535077562
Ough, fps games are riddled with cheaters today.

>>535080228
retard

holly will mog jonathan for the second time

>>535081436
They added a lot to endgame last season, barely anything this season

dam my gold was 400 off from stopping at 69420 without even trying

>>535080874
what do random uniques have to do with anything?
poe 1 didn't get influenced items until they expanded the endgame in 3.1.

>>535081598
It has secure boot so theres much less than you would think i didnt run into any personally

>>535082432
retard

>playing battletranny 6 spying you at the kernel level edition instead of playing the GOOD battlefield games from the past, bf1, bfV, swbf2, titanfall 2
gotta be a poo2er

>>535081860
What don't they have to do with it? If your argument against interesting items being in the game is that poe1 hadn't gone through that phase until later then we've got a whole host of examples of items that were added to poe2 from later in poe1 development. Would it have been so hard to innovate on your item system for the sequel of your game? Instead we got copy- pasted garbage with half baked changes that don't have any reason to be in the game

>>535084313
retard

>>535080973
It looks shit honestly. Build a beast mechanic and still no significant graphical or animation updates which is really what this dogshit gane needs

ourgirl is still playing

next league beachheads and heist adjustments

>>535084370
I accept your retarded concession. Poe2 is bad and has shit itemization and no reason for the uniques it added other than content padding and recycling. They put in no work and expect people to be impressed

>>535084619
retard

>>535084619
TRVKE

>soul mantle +1 totem
>ancestral bond you have no totem limit
Lmao do they just not pay attention to anything they put in the game?

>>535084619
TRVKA KOLA

>>535082432
>330k cheatere banned before the game released
This so going to blow up after release. And I bet there are enough cheaters not caught by the system.

>>535084313
no one said 'interesting items'
you want powercreep that did come in poe 1 until they raised the ceiling and expanded the endgame. there is absolutely no reason to add influenced itemization 2-3 patches into the early access(any early access really), where would they even come from?
almost all of the uniques that were added in poe 2 in 0.1 were low level uniques, so even that point is retarded.

>>535084967
retard

I'm going full skill effect duration chronomancer with chaos spells next league
I didnt even realise you can easily get 30s time freezes, i saw some videos now and it seems real ez

>6 year Partner anniversary
I'm never watching this faggot again

>>535084967
>+1 totem
vs
>Totems reserve 100 Spirit each
real big think on that one.

>>535085073
Not really when baseline cost is $60

>>535085107
>where would they even come from
Beidat? Xesht? King in the mists?

Plenty of material to draw from and add in things that don't exist in poe1. But they didn't do that. They didn't add to the game at all, only copy poe1 and subtract. Its thevlaziest piece of shit sequel to a game that's ever existed

>>535084619
I was going to post a true or whatever but then you had to make it sound like you won an argument like a faggot nigger

>>535085267
Yeah soul mantle is fucking garbage that's what I think. There are plenty of ways to stack spirit and all the reservation skills suck fucking balls anyway

>>535085594
retard

>>535085557
But I did win. Nice samefag defending your own post though

>>535085449
>>535085507
You cannot escape Beidat's gaze!

>>535076952
>What if... uhhh.... we make flasks and hp/es/mana not autorefill in the city
>Good idea... uhhhhhh make it so towards the last part of act 3 you don't even TP back to city but to a separate area with a forced transition cutscene when you go through portals lol

>>535085449
maybe they don't see any reason to start pumping the game full of powercreep before it even releases?
influenced items were added with shaper/elder. you are talking about a time when people unironically wore kaoms roots, a time when people would brick their shaper arena filling it with degen puddles. so it made sense to add influenced items because they were required.
all that poe 2 has at the moment are quest bosses.

jrv won
poop2 trannies lost bigly

>>535085507
What mechanic did they add from poe in 0.2 again?
>https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Coalesced_Corruption#Corrupted_Nexus

>>535085908
Why the fuck do you keep calling it power creep you fucking imbecilic nigger?

big shittu

>>535086410
retard

>>535086410
because thats what power creep is sis.

>>535086558
Power creep is the eventual bloat of a game that occurs as it develops. You don't START with power creep that's a contradiction in terms. You start with a baseline regardless of whatever that baseline happens to be.

Am I powercrept because I deal 2 damage instead of 1? Of course! Everyone MUST only deal exactly 1 damage when a game releases. Othwise that'd be powercreep!

That's how fucking retarded you sound

Tub status?

The Doryani fight soundtrack is so fucking good and nuanced.
>dramatic strings - mood for a fight as the world is ending
>typical Vaal wind instruments, you instantly know which culture you're fighting
>clever use of a Jew's harp, which is a real trad instrument, but also sounds like weird robot warbling
>droning synth basses cuz there's a fucking mech in there
>horroresque distorted piano from the Black Chambers just in case you forgot all the Mengele shit involved

>>535086815
retard

>>535086919
Yah the strings are really good on that one, instantly recognizable

Jewels are power creep
Hand of wisdom and action is power creep
CI without a less ES modifier is powercreep
+level items is power creep it never existed early in poe1
Stat stacking is power creep
Ascending is power creep it didn't release when poe1 first started

See how fucking retarded you are? Retard

>>535086410
because hes a retarded shill and is trying to justify poo2 having literally no content

>>535086815
>You don't START with power creep
woah really? so like how they didn't add influenced items in 0.1 at the start of the early access? huh! crazy....
if you aren't trolling you are unironically fucking retarded.

>>535086410
Because I have no argument and I must seethe

>>535086892
Filling up FAST

>>535086919
based

>>535087031
One CANNOT release a game with power creep. It is LITERALLY impossible. Power creep occurs and can only occur as a game is observed over time. Releasing a game with a certain set of items and mechanics is not power creep because the game isn't fucking changing on its release, its' changing on subsequent patches during development.

I fucking hate you poo2 shills with a passion

>>535087023
>>535087027
>>535087035
retard

>>535087023
they are all great examples of power creep added to path of exile 1.

Here's the real answer retard
They want every update to be meaningful and give a massive bang for your buck, especially when the game is so new and they want to ensure longevity of the game
Instantly filling up all design space with overbloated PoE 1 shit mechanics means any new mechanic or league they make is less impactful and relevant
It's the reason 0.3 will be so big, because they actually have space to design interesting things.

>They want every update to be meaningful
LOL

>>535087258
retard

>>535087258
>One CANNOT release a game with power creep. It is LITERALLY impossible
I get your point but you have to account for the fact that the game is not in a vacuum, there's a prior game with an identical name. So you have a point of reference for power creep.
And either way, GGG managed to tack on power creep in record time anyway (quickly making GCPs give 5% instead of 1% for no good reason whatsoever, for example). There's already power creep in the game compared to the initial POE2 release.

>>535087285
But not in 2? So you concede

>>535087291
>overloaded design
Like expedition ? Like ritual?

>>535087615
retard

>>535087258
>One CANNOT release a game with power creep.
>First HC arbiter of ash kill just one-shots him

>>535087615
Yes, actually, both of those are very badly implemented

>>535087451
>changing gcps to grant 5% qual instead of 1%
Thats a lateral change not a vertical one

>>535087768
I don't know what that means, does it refute my point?

>>535087491
they explained all of this years ago, they even tried to fix it but poe 1 was too far gone by that point.
they don't want the same thing to happen to poe 2 before it even hits 1.0

>>535085268
Can't imagine that it's going to stop the masses.

>creep (verb): To move or proceed very slowly. To slip out of place; shift gradually.
Again power "creep" (verb) describes a process of change over time. Changes over time can't occur to a game on release by definition. You're not power rept because they allowed you to one shot a boss on release. The deva are just fucking stupid and released a ahit game on accident

>>535087967
Frankly we need more leagues like ascendancy. I remember the hype at the time, it really felt like a regular expansion for the classic games, a true tarnsformation of the game. Everything since then is just gay incremental power creep

>>535087997
bro we are going in a loop, most cheaters cant afford it, thats the point, its why they cheat on f2p games, BF6 is $70, lets stop now its a poe general

>>535087905
Yes it does. Gcps changing to 5% don't improve the ceiling of builds and them giving gcps more "power" is equalized by a drop rate change. The power didn't change. Instead of giving you a 1 dollar bill 5 times a week they gave you a 5 dollar bill once a week. Did your income grow?

>>535088070
>Changes over time can't occur to a game on release by definition
how many patches and hotfixes were there during 0.1? 30 or 40.

Hey I was just going through my library and totally forgot I had PoE2. I played for a few weeks when the early access first dropped and got as far as the sunken city I think? Have they added anything worthwhile to the game since then? What classes should I try out when I hop back on?

>>535088278
>Gcps changing to 5% don't improve the ceiling of builds
Really don't think power creep is limited to build ceilings, I think it's sensible to look at overall progression and particularly what you can get quick and early.

> is equalized by a drop rate change
Doesn't really end up equalized because of juicing/multiple currency drops, you just end up qualing up all your gems much quicker than on launch. The problem is even worse in trade where GCPs cost jackshit and you basically start mapping with all 20%, which means that like 20-30% more DPS is just frontloaded into your character, instead of being dished out over time.

>>535088619
wait another 4 years sis

>>535088619
You got to act 3 and you're here asking whether they added more content? You realise you already skipped most content when you quit?

Who is baking the next one sirs?

>>535088662
>I think it's sensible to look at overall progression and particularly what you can get quick and early.
it's more than sensible, just look at the atlas passive tree.

>>535088662
>GCPs cost jackshit and you basically start mapping with all 20%
Congratulations on typing the most retarded shit I've read in a while.

>>535089317
Enlighten me, what's the issue?

>>535088497
Okay and?

>>535089473
N

>>535089584
I accept your concession.

casual observer of things here but 1st game has more players than 2nd, does that mean 2nd game is totally fucked or what?

it wasn't finished enough for release imo so i'm not playing 2nd

>>535089473
Pretty sure league start gcps are around 10ex each iirc

PoE 1
>adorned
>forbidden jewels
>watchers eye
>cluster jewels
>voices
>unnatural instinct
>timeless jewels
>emperors jewels
>sublime vision

Poo 2
>2% cursed effectiveness for every notable within radius
Poop of excrement 2

>>535089498
it's a live service game sister, they make constant changes.

>>535089621
Yeah I'd wait til it's free honestly. It's babys first arpg currently. No depth. Not even a finished or interesting story arch this time

>>535089741
I think atleast 20% of dissatisfaction with 0.2 was the disgusting attitude they showed towards jewels by nerfing the fuck out of them, and completely lopsiding the balanace of jewels (some which were slightly OP are completely trash, some that were okay are giga mega trash)
Do they not realise jewels are one of the most enjoyable parts of PoE 1? Why do they think being antagonistic towads jewels is a good thing?

>>535089746
Okay and? Are you able to follow a fucking argument or what? You seem to have trouble understanding basic concepts

>>535089653
So you need to make 40-80ex before the end of the campaign.
Is that supposed to be unrealistic on trade? Do you just never sell anything?

>Pheces 1
>220k maximum players 18 years old game

>PoE 2
>half a million players, 6 months old game

FACT

>>535090069
trvkestorm

>>535089990
>power creep in poe 1 is fucked we want to avoid that with poe 2
it's really not hard to follow. the reason they didn't add influenced items to the game on launch is because they add a completely unnecessary level of power at this stage of the game.

>>535089919
retard

>>535089194
Odds for genshin OP
Evens for poopy ontopic OP

are you lot still crying about not being able to zoom zoom in poo2?
real talk: best shoplyfter episode?

>>535090650
do the genshin OP anyways

>>535090338
And of course they'd have to be implemented in the exact same way because ggg can't make anything new. You're so right sis

>>535088897
Meant more along the lines of character classes/skill trees/loot pool

>>535090338
>power creep in poe 1 is fucked
>neverminded the game is harder than it's ever been, and you need as much of the added power as you can get.

>>535090058
>selling thins during a run-through of the campaign
No? You sell 40-80ex worth of garbage during the campaign? You can't be fucking serious >>535089741
God their implementation of those influence jewels and legion jewels was fucking abyssmal.. are they even supported by trade uwt? Last I played you could even search for them lmao

>>535090879
Blud dem... what does it matter if you just got to act 3? Did you even play more than 1 class, or ascend one character?

>>535090862
so in the end you don't want them to add influenced items because that would just be the same old slop? in reality you just wanted a jumping-off point for your daily path of exile 2 meltdown.

>>535091082
He doesn't play. the game has become too much for his brain to fathom. He just seethes at clips of end game and pretends its "too fast" and he "doesn't like the gameplay" to cope because he's never been able to experience it for himself.

>>535091082
retard

>>535091082
in what world is poe 1 the hardest it has ever been? you can fucking afk everything in the game with a few days /player in ssf.

>>535091110
retard

>>535089741
>Unfinished game is unfinished
Duh

>>535091260
No I want new shit to be added to the game thay offers something poe1 does not. So far it offers nothing. Influenced items could be anything. They could grant utility skills for all I care. Or interesting affixes that plug holes in the poe2 tree that is so fucking bland it hurts. Fucking something to give this game some fucking flavor because it's fucking RAW baby