Thread 535075965

Stop Tormenting Me Edition
Previous thread: >>534496364

>Commercial games for Linux
https://store.steampowered.com/search?category1=998&os=linux
https://itch.io/games/platform-linux
https://www.gog.com/en/games?systems=linux
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/search?platform=linux&drm=download
https://www.zoom-platform.com/search/any/any/any/any/any/linux/any/any
https://gamejolt.com/games?os=linux

>Libre games, source ports
https://libregamewiki.org/
https://osgameclones.com/

>Stuff for running Windows games
Wine (mostly used via Proton, Lutris, etc.): https://www.winehq.org/
Proton (comes with Steam): https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
ProtonUp-Qt (installer for custom Proton builds): https://github.com/DavidoTek/ProtonUp-Qt
Bottles (Wine frontend): https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles
Lutris (Wine frontend and game launcher): https://lutris.net/

>Other (non-Proton) compatibility tools for Steam
Steam Tinker Launch: https://github.com/sonic2kk/steamtinkerlaunch
Boxtron: https://github.com/dreamer/boxtron
Roberta: https://github.com/dreamer/roberta
Luxtorpeda: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/luxtorpeda

>Unofficial launchers for platforms lacking proper Linux support
LGOGDownloader (GOG) (CLI only): https://github.com/Sude-/lgogdownloader
Minigalaxy (GOG): https://github.com/sharkwouter/minigalaxy
Legendary (EGS) (CLI only): https://github.com/derrod/legendary
Rare (EGS): https://github.com/Dummerle/Rare
Heroic (EGS, GOG, Amazon): https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher

>Other cool things
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
https://github.com/flightlessmango/MangoHud
https://gitlab.com/Infernio/libstrangle
https://git.dec05eba.com/gpu-screen-recorder/about/
https://gitlab.com/feed_and_seed/webm_script
https://github.com/limo-app/limo
https://github.com/Kron4ek/Conty
https://github.com/scanmem/scanmem
https://github.com/mtkennerly/ludusavi

>Linux on other boards
>>>/g/fglt
>>>/t/linux

>>535075965 (OP)
We are so back bros..


Also fuck this game.

https://github.com/wine-staging/wine-staging/blob/master/patches/dsound-Fast_Mixer/0001-dsound-Add-a-linear-resampler-for-use-with-a-large-n.patch
I was looking at Proton GE forks and noticed one that disables this patch set because it causes audio crackling in some games.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30639
Looking in to it, this was a dirty hack implemented to help performance in a few games. For some reason staging decided to pick up the patch and hence GE.
From the looks of it on ProtonDB, none of those games are known to have performance issues with Proton so I guess GE and staging have been fucking audio quality for 99% of games for no reason with a 13-year-old patch. Nice.

speaking of proton-ge, GloriousEggroll has been shipping binaries that don't match the source of recent releases:
https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/issues/203
this issue is due to umu sdk being bumped to one based on the latest valve steam rt which switched to gcc 14

then there are nonsense commits like this that add options that will definitely cause the build to fail:
https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/commit/fa54a37
>--enable-decoder=valve*
this option does not exist

>>535077675
Is that the F2P MMO that came out last year and is in Early Access?

we're so fucking back

>>535077696
>From the looks of it on ProtonDB, none of those games are known to have performance issues with Proton so I guess GE and staging have been fucking audio quality for 99% of games for no reason with a 13-year-old patch. Nice.
Wow, sucks. Maybe you should contact GE so he would disable this patch in his Proton?

>>535085034
I don't want to have to install the affected titles and provide logs. Should also confirm there is no performance difference in the original titles.

bamp

itagaki's a freak

gaming time

>>535083949
I dont know what you are referring to, but this is sky: children of the light. The PC version is early access yes, but it's a pc version of a mobile game so early access here refers to the state of the pc port, not the state of the game itself

>try oblivion remastered in my new mint install
>stutters like a motherfucker
I can't tell if its linux jank or bethesda games jank

>>535104058
Outdated mesa/nvidia I assume

Where the fuck do I go from there?
>Played game fine in the past.
>Uninstalled it some time ago.
>Reinstalled today.
>Launched without changing any settings.
Doesn't launch, just gets stuck.
>Force quit game with stop button.
>Try bunch of different proton(ge) versions.
Same shit
>Delete compatdata 0, game's number and relevant shadercache folder.
Still same story.
Sometimes it compiles Vulkan cache, but still doesn't work.
>Try Wine3d
Nope.
>Rebooted as a desperate boomer move.
Lol, nada.
???????????

>>535117002
Forgot to add, I uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times.

>>535117002
>>535117241
What game?

>>535121083
Fear and Hunger.

>>535075965 (OP)
Thanks for posting and apologies for not reviving the thread myself when I saw it was dead on Monday night. I don't have much time to post during the week, and I didn't want to make a thread just to see it die again immediately, so I told myself I wouldn't make another until Friday (and if /lgg/ is a weekends-only thread then so be it). But now that we're back, I'll bump whenever I can.
I beat FALLSTRUKTUR, by the way. Steam Workshop has a handful of user-made levels so I might try some of those. There are achievements for beating the developers' times on the default level too but I'm not really interested.

>>535121519
Isn't that a rpg maker game?
launch the game with PROTON-LOG=1 %command% and look for the error that shows in said log

>>535122265
Does something here stand out to you?
https://pastebin.com/7Y8y7S8b
I get debug spam like this in pretty much every game btw.

>>535117002
Problem bypassed by upgrading the NWJS.
Still mystery as to what caused it.

it's over...

https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/commit/2efb7ef
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/commit/2da9dd5
The work that has consumed doitsujin for the past month and a half is now being put to use. I guess this will eventually be used for dxvk too? I have no idea what benefits it brings though.

>>535138248
What does it mean though?

>>535138248
>all those tweaks based on *.exe filename in https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/blob/master/libs/vkd3d/device.c
How disgusting, but I guess there's no better alternative.

>>535135141
It's not over until Linux gaming is illegal

wholesome

>>535122603
the gstreamer warning can be ignored, but it looks like you have mangohud running, try running the game without it

>>535165764
nvm, just saw the post of your fix

>>535146685
It's fine, GPU vendors do similar kind of shit in their drivers on Windows

>>535165764
I just have global mangohud for all vulkan games.
I tried launching it after "MANGOHUD=0 steam" regardless, not sure if that really works though.
>>535166528
It's more of a bypass than fix.
Again game used to work perfectly fine out of the box.

>>535079329
>--enable-decoder=valve*
Reminds me of AI chatbot hallucinations—they love to make up non-existent options.
GE must have asked AI to build the initial option list since he switched to --disable-all which is seriously overkill and fragile.

Gaming on linux with my recently acquired Gamesaar Cyclone 2 which finally arrived after being stuck at the customs for almost 3 weeks.
I wish its size was bigger, it's small for my 5'7 manlet hands and no it has no linux software support, only for windows and android phones, though you can change most settings on the gamepad itself.

>>535175693
Gulikit kk3 can be configured through their site but only when using chromium

How stable is gamescope on wayland these days?

JayZ has done irreparable damage to Linux gaming...

>>535185774
Well, it's pretty much stable, but I would recommend using winewayland for HDR

>>535189468
Don't have time to watch the video. Someone give me the tldw

>>535189468
>>535197976
Well, it was as embarassing as Linus Racemixing tips. Still, he encountered next issues:
1. Overall low performance across ALL games even though he was using amd GPU. Bazzite devs wtf are you doing?
2. Apparently btrfs kernel bug prevented his system from boot. I don't know why so-called "maintainers" patching their kernels to prevent such kind of crap, especially when you default to btrfs?! CachyOS was providing patch for this

>>535199441
cachyos got hit by the bug too, but yeah fuck btrfs, just let people use ext4, the best fs evermade

>>535199826
It was fixed almost instantly

>>535200560
How many times has btrfs had data-loss bugs now like that now?

>>535202120
>That's a great question!

>>535199826
For me, it's XFS.

But Facebook uses BTRFS in production...

>>535205252
facebook is already corrupted

>>535205252
They probably stick to an old kernel that just works™

>>535205252
Btrfs get corruptions less often than ZFS .

>>535199826
don't be a retard, ext4 is barebones.
>>535205061
I've heard XFS is weak to power outages, otherwise it's great.

>>535213701
>don't be a retard, ext4 is barebones.
Most people dont need more, especially gaymers

>>535216789
To be fair, dedupe is useful when you have like 30 proton prefixes knocking around.

>>535213701
everytime my pc had an unexpected shutdown with ext4 on root i had to fsck it in rescue mode, haven't had that with xfs on root

>>535213701
>I've heard XFS is weak to power outages
So is BTRFS, it bricked my os install after a power outage and it went in read only mode every time I tried to update my system and it doesn't let you fix it at all.
Fuck BTRFS and fuck snapshots too.

For me it's whatever file system is selected by default when I click through the installer of whatever distro I'm using (presently Mint). Works on my machine™.
I've had several power outages with the PC turned on and my system never bricked so I must be lucky.

I fucking love science

>>535221807
>it bricked my os install after a power outage and it went in read only mode
Believe it or not, that's actually a feature and intended.
>it doesn't let you fix it at all.
Skill issue

BTRFS is dogshit though

>>535226510
>Skill issue
I tried fixing that piece of shit by booting via luve usb and tried all those "helpful' btrfs rescue commands and they did jackshit, not to mention that dogshit system isn't intended for drives that write constantly and it reported that my metadata was full and you can't delete it because btrfs doesn't give you the option to.
That was 2 years ago, maybe they added new shit but I don't care anymore.
If a file system forces me to boot into a live usb to troubleshoot because the developers didn't or won't develop a proper rescue program/tool, it's in fact a dogshit system.

>>535230760
>and it reported that my metadata was full
Haha. That's what happened to me a few years ago. It is a skill issue but only because BTRFS's utilities are arcane pieces of shit they don't expect anyone to ever need to use.

For what it's worth, even if you did manage to recover from it, your metadata partition will never go back to being as healthy as it was before.

Getting certain games that use mods to run can be a bit of a pain
I'm trying to play Project 06 and it has a popular modloader that I finally thought I had running but now its crashing the second I load into a post-stage cutscene

Did a quick replay of fallout 1 for the first time in forever, forgot how much I liked this dumb game
Also turns out fo1 really doesn't like frame limiters, I had to increase the cap all the way to like 500 fps for it to feel normal

>>535242990
>I had to increase the cap all the way to like 500 fps for it to feel normal
Did you try the source port?
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce

>>535251159
I played it with fallout et tu, it's the original game played with the fallout 2 engine
https://github.com/rotators/Fo1in2
But I've never heard of fallout1-ce before, I'll have to keep it in mind for next time

Dropped this game for a while because I didn't want to do all the secrets in this stupid level because there are fucking 10 of them and most seem to require spamming jump against walls to do what I would call glitches but in this game is apparently called platforming.
It wasn't so bad with quicksaves though, and I found a Steam guide with a mostly helpful set of pictures so that I didn't have to watch some asshole's hour-long video.
>50 minutes
Yikes. I know I wasted some time wandering around after thinking I passed a secret but damn.

>regenerating armor
Wow it's just like Halo!
Also I forgot I had quit so close to the end. This was the last level before the expansion's boss.

>>535254315
I've never played it; I just saw it listed here:
>https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce
Backporting features from Fallout 2 to Fallout 1 seems to be on the to-do list there.

>>535257432
>listed here:
For fuck's sake, I had the wrong URL in my clipboard. I meant here:
https://osgameclones.com/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki_Entertainment
>In addition to the published titles, there is also an unfinished port of Deus Ex. The later update of Deus Ex for Microsoft Windows features the OpenGL driver for the Unreal Engine from Loki Software's Linux port. This makes the title more compatible with Wine.
Damn, if they would have enough money and financing there would be a native Deus Ex port...

>>535268269
We should have a decompilation and open-source port of it by now, frankly.

>watch youtube video about old game
>dude refers to the source port as a "mod"
I think we're too harsh on people who call Wine an emulator.

>>535199441
>Well, it was as embarassing as Linus Racemixing tips
Lmao, I meant "it wasn't". How a single typo can change the entire post.

I tried installing Diablo 2 and had no problems at all. Most tasking thing was figuring out how to wide-screen support, but it has nothing to do with Linux compatibility but rather ill documented d2dx. Still, if you don't care about d2dx (patch for modern systems) you can play just fine on vanilla 1.14d using wined3d.

>they lost the kingdom to this
I'm going back into sleeping pod.

>>535292624
goodnight

>>535292624
Link is the only one with bombs, all the others are grugs with bow and arrow

>>535282748
Do Diablo 2 and StarCraft require Battle.net accounts? Or would cracks of the latest old version be the way to play them? Never played a single Blizzard game in my life.
>>535299172
Good morning

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/8186
I just saw Proton Experimental used to transcode video/audio, although they eventually abandoned it. Did they leave behind transcoded videos? Is there any easy way to clear Steam's shader caches?

>>535307957
>Do Diablo 2 and StarCraft require Battle.net accounts? Or would cracks of the latest old version be the way to play them?
Battlenet isn't required for singleplayer and direct connect in Diablo 2, although online game implemented through it. But I think on old Diablo 2 versions it's no longer working

life is good

>>535315821
I'm sure the transcoded videos get deleted when you turn off shader caching.

snibbedy snab

Anon who had freesync on his laptop from a few threads a go, logged into KDE x11, disabled compositing and enabled variable refresh rate, it even prevents tearing of windows in desktop, thought it would only be for full screen windows. Interestingly enough, vkcube did not tear at all in kwin x11 with compositing disabled and adaptive sync disabled, but dragging windows around still produced noticeable tearing at 64hz.

>>535336957
Some applications, such as mpv make a better effort at syncing to monitor using newer x11 extensions (by new I meant like 10-15 years old). These will often have no tearing even in window mode unless you have some heavy process running in the background that makes frame timing worse.

>>535338120
I'll try out mpv on that later in the day, thanks.

>>535338351
and I mean specifically with vulkan api I think. Vulkan has a sync option that when used, the gpu driver will use PresentPixmapSynced which even supports that fancy pancy explicit sync n shit that was missing for so long on wayland for nvidia

>didn't update for 2 days
>see that 6.16 is out
IT'S UPDOOT TIME

>>535345236
Its been out since the 1st THOUGH.

average insertion
>>535345236
I'm waiting for KDE gear

What are you playing this weekend, penguin bros?

>>535357857
I want to try out the new Heretic episode, so I'll probably do that even though it means playing in the KEX engine through Proton until some source port is updated to handle the new content.
In the meantime, I need to finish something instead of being in the middle of 9000 games, so I'll probably go for the low-hanging fruit and wrap up the last level of >>535257229 tonight. It doesn't really count though because I already beat it years ago. Plus I have to increase the difficulty to unlock some of the levels. Fuck.

I don't remember what stupid gimmick lets me damage this douchebag.
Fuck it, I'm looking it up.
...
Okay that's stupid. I was wondering what the rings of fire are. Apparently you have to take damage inside of them.

Any anons with a Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X? I want to play Nuclear Option with this Hotas but the stick rotate & throttle paddles don't work, I could live without the paddles but I need stick rotate. Has anyone had/solved this issue before? It's an older model if that matters. If it's borken it's not the end of the world since I wouldn't mind getting a good one, but I'd like to play now. I checked my kernel config and I did have hid-thrustmaster disabled but it looks like it's only for some wheels, not my hotas, and everything else works.

No gaming tonight because I feel like shit. Bump though.
I use Mint btw

continued re5 co-op, next time im playing that is tuesday. i'll hopefully beat gal guardians this weekend, or at least get up to the final boss

bump

>>535406924
Classic

Don't usually play rpgmaker games, is running them through Wine the optimal way?

Morning
>>535418320
Isn't there EasyRPGPlayer? I forget the name but there's a reverse engineering of 1 or 2 of the RPGMaker engines.

>>535430389
Nta. but that's only for the 2000/2003 rpgmaker.
I'd like to know something that runs the more modern RPGM engines as proton just launches and silently dies.

>>535430389
>EasyRPGPlayer
Apparently it only works with RPGM 2000 and 2003, and that game is VX ace.

Happy Saturday.
It's gaming (on Linux btw) time.

Do these runes spell anything?

>>535457508
Not a rune expert but:
fpghuzwiÞshjftnærbis
is what I got from the wikipedia rune table, I don't think it means anything.

Þ=th

>>535463138
Yeah I checked and it looks like they just put the rune alphabet on the doors. lol

>>535418320
Anything under XP works fine with Wine for me.
XP and newer needs me to drop in Linux nwjs though. Wine just sits on Now Loading... forever.

How to deal with this error? I tried creating a directory both where the .exe is located as well as in wine's Windows drive but that didn't make a difference. Also on googling the error I see a bunch of people noticing the same thing in Windows, but nothing specific to wine/proton.

>>535466482
Are you doing it via Lutris or manually, because setting directories up is easy with lutris, dunno how other programs like bottles are doing it.

>>535467414
I'm just running the .exe via wine which is what I've done for every other game I play (granted, not that many) so far.

>>535467685
I guess you pirated the game, because it should work just fine with wine without needing to create directories.
Unless it's a bad copy/repack.

>>535468628
Yeah I pirated it.
Honestly I might as well pay for it instead of dealing with this since it's pretty cheap.

Yeah, got him right
he was a teammate lol

>Added per-game shader cache, enabled by default, can be disabled with PROTON_LOCAL_SHADER_CACHE=0. Shaders will be cached under /shadercache/ for each game, similarly to when shader pre-caching is enabled. You will get stuttering as the shader cache for each game is rebuilt but the cached shaders won't be evicted due to limited cache size.
Neat.

Now that's some good traction.

I don't know what these little posts on the sides of the dirt roads are, but whenever I hit one while riding a motorcycle, the game forgets how crashing works and it stops me dead while the motorcycle just keeps going, which makes zero fucking sense.
The surprise plot twist at the end of this clip just adds insult to injury.

I forgot to post this video showing off how well I can fly a helicopt—
Oh shit, it's the wrong one.

>fuck up horribly
>still look like a bad ass

>>535466482
The folder should already exist. If it's missing then you are missing files. It's not an empty folder, it has files in it.

>>535466482
You shouldn't create the folder, it should already exist and it should have files in it. If it's missing then the torrent you downloaded is incomplete.
If you still get such an error when you have all the correct files then try running the exe from the games directory (change directory to it in a terminal and then run it).

>>535457508
I translated it in the image

>>535473848
rekt

>>535480909
Thanks!!

What are some general steps I can take to try to improve game performance?
Trying mint cinnamon

>pair switch pro controller through bluetooth
>it connects for 1 second then disconnects

>>535480909
Wow, very nice

>>535485071
Let me guess: Linux Mint?

>>535484134
inb4 install gentoo.
But I don't know. People like to say that you should go into the general settings (just called "General" in the menu because reasons I guess) and disable compositing for full-screen windows, but I never really noticed much of a difference. There's gamemode but don't know how relevant that is either; I've never seen it make much of a difference, but if it's only relevant to Nvidia or something then that would be why. If you try running games and the performance is godawful, you'll want to make sure the games are using your discrete graphics card instead of your CPU's integrated graphics chip, but that's not so much an optimization issue as just getting your shit to work at all.
Frankly, having switched to Linux about 5 years ago, I've never seen any "here's how to optimize Linux for gaming" advice that isn't basically just "install this distro", maybe because it's all about what flags were used when compiling the kernel or some shit.

>>535485364
yes
Is this a known issue?

>>535486147
try updating kernel

reee I can't play oblivion for 5 minutes before it slows to a crawl and crashes and I know I have the latest nvidia drivers
>protondb lists it as platinum compatability
fucking liars

Is there any reason to use a bespoke gaming distro like Bazzite vs an all arounder like Mint? Never used Linux before, but I'm getting tired of wangblows shit

>>535490553
I currently have a dualboot with both of them
The upside of bazzite is that its basically plug and play. It almost always just works.
The downside as I learned later is that its an immutable distro. Meaning that it puts guardrails up to prevent the user from fucking shit up. But sometimes you want to go around them if you're installing something deeper. I wanted to mess around with some DAWs but I realized I couldn't install this special compatibility tool that would let me use windows plugins because bazzite is immutable.
Inversely, I have more freedom on mint and generally games seem to work but there was a little more legwork involved in the research of how to set stuff up. I'm still working on it too. On bazzite all the prerequisite work to make gaming smooth is already done for you
>TL;DR if all you want to do is game and maybe use some other surface level apps, bazzite will work better. If you want to do anything deeper than surface level, mint may work better but there will be more work in setting up the gaming stuff.

>>535472374
>Added per-game shader cache, enabled by default
I think that's what lutris does by default too
__GL_SHADER_DISK_CACHE_PATH seems to get set before launching each game

>>535485559
>There's gamemode but don't know how relevant that is either; I've never seen it make much of a difference
I've only seen gamemode (cpu performance governor mode) have an effect on vr gaming

>>535485071
This happens if you dont connect it properly with pairing mode. Might even have to enter a secret pair key.

catalyst upgrading op thanks doddler too bad mufflers are a nightmare to farm
>0.50% drop chance from one mob
>said mob also has nurse cap at 0.50%, and its card at 0.50% as well

>Linux users can add the following Flatpak repository: https://flatpak.dolphin-emu.org/releases.flatpakrepo
Ok, I ran the 'flatpak remote-add' to do that. What does that actually do?

>Processing vulkan shaders
>for 10 minutes

>>535501296
It adds a repository from which you can install Flatpak programs (presumably Dolphin) with the appropriate `flatpak install some.shit//version` command (where "some.shit//version" is the exact package name, which you can generally find with `flatpak search shit`). In this case, I assume you'll want to do `flatpak install org.DolphinEmu.dolphin-emu`.
But I don't know why you'd add a repository if your Flatpak installation already came with Flathub as a remote (which it probably did), because it looks like Flathub has the same package. If the one in Flathub is unofficial and thus less trustworthy or something, then I don't know how you would ensure that Flatpak installs it specifically from the official Dolphin repository. (I don't use Flatpak very often.)

>>535503064 (Me)
>I don't know how you would ensure that Flatpak installs it specifically from the official Dolphin repository.
Of course that's only because I didn't RTFM.

get rekt

Thank you, Santa!

Perfect landing, as usual.

Good thing I just saved.

>>535466448
Black Souls (VX ace) worked on Wine 10 for me. Running it in a fresh prefix gave a black screen with a pop-up window saying that it needs vx ace runtime, installer for which came along with the game, so I assume it's the same behavior as on windows. After running said installer inside the prefix, the game worked.

>>535521691
Oh, yeah. Runtimes for