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Anonymous No.535112663 >>535162090 >>535340009 >>535341819 >>535341819 >>535351926 >>535356726 >>535368882 >>535375175
/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 / Shin Megami Tensei General
>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM

>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo

>VV has a demo now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0

>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon

>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:
https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf

>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/

>真 /smtg/ plays is underway. we're playing smt IV.
No White Ending yet Fuckos

Last cycle: >>534416470
Anonymous No.535113160
I don't think SMT: NINE takes place in the timeline the way the official guide book and all other sources say it does.
At the very least it certainly is impossible for it to lead into SMT2, not a single of NINE's nine endings is compatible with 2.
But to go further I don't even think it branches from SMT1, at least not the SMT1 we know. Its more like a weird slightly fucked up different version of the events of SMT1 where theres some specific but notable changes, like the lack of the cathedral and a difference in how much of humanity survives
Anonymous No.535113369
SJ is peak.
Anonymous No.535114950
>>535107414
It's not as spicy though and that means I'll still need to generate 3 chaos demons.
Anonymous No.535117287 >>535146321
The fujo merch of smtv that does exist is honestly pretty fucking funny when you think about it:
>a limited time drink during a smtv collab that described them being inseparable
>a sexual innuendo picture between them you can only see in the Atlus 30th anniversary book
>expensive earphones where you can self insert as the young man while Aogami tells you they should take a nap together
>a 16,000 yen acrylic portrait of them together that you can frame
Anonymous No.535121680
What did she mean by this?
Anonymous No.535121868
Is this SJ smtg plays or SMT IV smtg plays lol
Anonymous No.535122040 >>535122263 >>535197808
Alex kinda hurts the narrative of SJ huh. I don't think it's egregiously bad but it's also really fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.535122263 >>535122389
>>535122040
I think she is the worst rerelease girl in any Atlus game
Anonymous No.535122389 >>535124527
>>535122263
Haven't played Full Body yet but I heard Rin was pretty bad too.
Anonymous No.535123764 >>535123819
Ain 20XX
Anonymous No.535123819 >>535124428
>>535123764
Anonymous No.535124428 >>535127907
>>535123819
Need more chocolate heroines
Anonymous No.535124527
>>535122389
Rin isn't the worst rerelease girl because Rin isn't a g___
Anonymous No.535126787 >>535126990 >>535127907
>>535060360
Eat shit and die i don't want to see you ever again. Getting 8 hours of sleep made this thing way easier
Anonymous No.535126990 >>535127907
>>535126787
here's the team btw
Anonymous No.535127907
>>535126787
>>535126990
Nice job-also BUENO
>>535124428
We need more heroines in general. Give us cute girls that throw magic around again!
Anonymous No.535128642 >>535129627 >>535160974
what external tools do you use? for me its pic related in conjunction with aqui384
Anonymous No.535129627
>>535128642
I use aqui384 but only when my fusion autism is strong.
Anonymous No.535132513 >>535134686
I could have solved the plot of Apocalypse without any of the extra god nonsense. Just give me a stick of butter, Asahi, and some jerky.
Anonymous No.535132761 >>535247187
I hate on paper I know I would love NINE and there is no translation patch.
Anonymous No.535133031 >>535271172
I found out the boss of the second dungeon was apparently inspired by my own likeness.
Also Reiko croaked and we got to meet her guardian spirit. kind of thought it'd be something a bit more, uh, elegant. She has magic now but no offensive spells which is still a pretty big problem if we run into an anti-phys enemy that can counter Chud's overwhelming retard strength.
Anonymous No.535134686 >>535135354
>>535132513
Asahi is a sexy dog
Anonymous No.535135354 >>535135742
>>535134686
She is. It’s the combination of her design and annoying optimism that makes me want to corrupt and impregnate her. Other characters I have a respect for, but I feeling nothing but carnal desire for Asahi
Anonymous No.535135742 >>535136408
>>535135354
What's your favorite art of her?
Anonymous No.535136062
With the Johnathan/Walter split in lV, I honestly like Johnathan's events so much more than Walters even though Walter has much harder boss fights. It's extremely memorable and thematic.
Anonymous No.535136408 >>535136690
>>535135742
Probably this one? Exclude nanashi and hallelujah, and it’s a pretty cute Asahi. Kinda sad there’s not more art of her.
Anonymous No.535136690 >>535137192
>>535136408
I agree it's very pretty. What about lewd art?
Anonymous No.535137012 >>535137175 >>535137192 >>535138140
I am currently playing through SMT 1 for the first time, How grindy is it? Not familiar with these games.
Anonymous No.535137175
>>535137012
Once you get nerve bullets with a gun that hits multiple targets at once, you almost never need to worry about the combat.
Anonymous No.535137192 >>535137375
>>535136690
https://files.catbox.moe/xtmqgv.jpeg
Kinda hard to pinpoint but this one is the cutest
>>535137012
It’s less grindy and more the encounter rate is a bit of a bitch.
Anonymous No.535137375
>>535137192
A good amount of cum around her lips with her bare tits. Good taste.
Anonymous No.535138140
>>535137012
The beginning of the game before you get a multi hit gun will be hard. You'll hit another road block potentially at Ginza because a lot of enemies like casting bind and it's the most annoying status effect to deal with because only your heroine has the means of curing it and if she's binded she can't cast it.

No grinding is really needed at all besides getting money. Leveling is pointless.

The other thing to watch out for is alignment towards the middle of the game. There are two rooms that can force you onto the law or chaos end if you walk into them law or chaos aligned. Other than that alignment doesn't matter until you enter the final boss room in Tokyo destiny land. Whatever you want your alignment to be, walk into that room with it on to get that ending. If you want to lock it earlier you can by going into those two rooms I mentioned.
Anonymous No.535139349 >>535140553 >>535143760
fuck I wanna replay SJ now that it's getting talked about
should I finally do SJR? I never played it and kinda want to see the new dungeons and bosses even if the story is garbo
Anonymous No.535140553 >>535141102
>>535139349
I like it, it's easier and removes some stuff for the sector transition graphics. Mad Gasser is too OP not to use.
Anonymous No.535141102 >>535141634
>>535140553
>removes some stuff for the sector transition graphics
what does this mean
Anonymous No.535141634
>>535141102
You get a boring menu instead of seeing 3D models for the sectors and no animations of the ship traveling to them.
Anonymous No.535141642 >>535142009
normies getting filtered by nocturne makes me wonder.. is there actually a single classical jrpg that's actually hard? or is nocturne about where it caps out?
Anonymous No.535142009
>>535141642
90s JRPGs are harder than Nocturne. Nocturne is mostly easy once you get speed buffs
Anonymous No.535142249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAILgcAvQBw
Anonymous No.535142628 >>535143626
Anonymous No.535143626
>>535142628
The The Room of SMT
Anonymous No.535143760
>>535139349
it depends. if you think the lack of QoL could make you stop playing the game go with SJR.
Anonymous No.535143903 >>535152137 >>535174075
Ringoschizo here. I'm working on a Nuwa mod. What do you think of it so far?
Anonymous No.535144106 >>535152137 >>535174075
Here's a another image of my WIP mod.
Anonymous No.535145762 >>535161137
please make them bigger
Anonymous No.535146321
>>535117287
>all limited time items that you can't even get anymore
lmao
Anonymous No.535147690 >>535360840
>have an Asahi 3D model
>have no clue how to put it in games
Anonymous No.535150181 >>535150973 >>535151359
A demon gobbled up my mom but I'm still pretty chill about it.
Anonymous No.535150973
>>535150181
Try not to feel too bad.
Anonymous No.535151359
>>535150181
sorry bro she looked so tasty
Anonymous No.535151438
Why did Kozuka call Aogami a mother?
Anonymous No.535152137 >>535152529 >>535161137
>>535143903
>>535144106
Is this a actual mod you're working on or are you just fucking around with the models
Please don't lie
Anonymous No.535152529 >>535153304
>>535152137
Source?
Anonymous No.535153304 >>535177710
>>535152529
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/929956?q=shin_megami_tensei_devil_children+
Anonymous No.535154341 >>535161137
Please say sike. Please.
Anonymous No.535155239 >>535155437 >>535155539
I'm a demonsexual. I'm not attracted to ALL demons, but I'm only attracted to demons.
Anonymous No.535155437
>>535155239
Yakumo....
Anonymous No.535155539
>>535155239
Anonymous No.535156460 >>535156606 >>535156729 >>535665637 >>535671041
Is there such a thing as a bad smt game?
Anonymous No.535156606 >>535342520
>>535156460
this made me wonder what the public considers the ranking so I looked up a list and it's the most dogshit thing I've ever seen
https://www.thegamer.com/every-shin-megami-tensei-game-ranked/ smt2 is worse than 1? the 11th in the franchise? If... is 5th best? what the fuck
Anonymous No.535156729
>>535156460
IV
Anonymous No.535157854 >>535158110
Hope all you devil summoners sleep well, I got back to Tokyo proper.
>Infernal Tokyo (The rest)
Well I was able to recruit Vasuki while trying to find Shinjuku and it fucking learned Drain Fire as the random skill. Also its comedic both barkeepers mention about there being multiple quests needing to be done but there's only 2 quests, 1 from a demon talk and another from the Kasumigaseki barkeeper. For weird trivia there's a hint from a demonoid that the neurisher/demonoid thing might've been a response to the white rather than how the world was originally. Finally, while Blasted Tokyo sold a nigh-empty world that was trying to kill itself, Infernal Tokyo is a world I'd love to see expanded upon, feel like it was really limited by dev hell but still an area with concepts/vibe that's infectious. Maybe it's all the demonoids feeding the child in me... Fuck this could explore having multiple designs of the same demon in the same game, IV Lilith as is but then also SMT Lilith in Infernal Tokyo each with a different flair in personality.
>Vetala
Metatron served a concentrated Agidyne and it seems to have been too spicy for him. One round. Get he's a mini-boss but surely can last longer than a wild encounter.
>Mahamayuri
Firstly I greatly respect the Debilitate and Makarakarns indicating a phase change, just that 6k HP is easy to eat through thanks to concentrated Ziodynes and his healing only being Diarama. This honestly could've used Diarahan as a segue into his phase 2 for a functional 9/10k HP. Something with Floral Gust/Mahamaon/Debilitate + 3rd press turn?
Anonymous No.535158110
>>535157854
>Kenji
He could not fight against repel/drain phys so he died while dealing minimal damage. Concentrated Agidynes, Ragnaroks, and even a few shot from the brave Bob led to him properly dying. The fuck does Conquerer Spirit even do. As for writing, I don't hate how he was handled too much beyond wishing we got more, my read's that he's someone managing both the human side wanting to stop the fighting and the demon side wanting to not stop indulging (in this case battle). That could be a neat way to showcase an argument against Chaos, with one who's bored/tired of it all or his impulses being a new set of chains, but not something explored too deeply with just one encounter.
>Monochromatic Forest
Warp mazes where you have to memorize the walls in the maze, so fun, much great, somehow not even that long but probably because I already got all the high level demons so fusion autism was minimal (I got a decent Mara as Abbadon + Loki = Salamander and I had a Chi You).
>White (Hugo)
Was the target of Myriad Arrows Fenrir because I wanted to see Bloody Glee in action. Only took a 2nd attempt because Lost is an ailment that exists in this game for some reason and I wanted exp on Marici who was to make another Myriad Arrows user in Ananta. Got Repel Phys because of course that's what I'll get from mutating a Trisagion.
>White (K)
Respect the Riot Guns that did kill the MC the first time but I was able to win that attempt despite no more healing. 2nd attempt was nothing as I swapped my shirt and he didn't get to Smirk Riot Gun a cap in my ass.
>White (Isabeau)
I repelled the Impossible Slash. Is she secretly Kakyoin?
>White (Issachar)
Wasn't a complete nothing fight, LCandy + Charge could've been scary if my team wasn't cracked. Shocking thing to realize is that there's no Almighty among the White collectively, just weird. Also with how they played him, my theory before about the White being failed alignments can be shot down (completely forgot K was one of them).
Anonymous No.535159687
When the young man needs motivation.
Anonymous No.535160974
>>535128642
I do this with pen and paper
also draw maps this way
Anonymous No.535161137 >>535168749 >>535174075
>>535152137
>>535154341
I'm not lying nor joking around. This is indeed a real mod I'm working on and it should hopefully be ready somewhere around later this month or early September, since I'm trying to make sure Nuwa doesn't clip through things.
>>535145762
I'll think about it, maybe as a optional thing for the mod.
Anonymous No.535162090 >>535272612 >>535389410 >>535456462 >>535463175 >>535589525 >>535634845
>>535112663 (OP)
真 /smtg/ plays anchor post

真 /smtg/ plays page:
>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-plays
any suggestions for the event or rentry page?

how long should the smt 4 event last?
>https://strawpoll.com/61gD9v11WZw

>funniest moment?
>unpopular opinions?
>did you like the references to the past games?
>how would you describe smt 4?
>favorite aspect of smt 4?
Anonymous No.535164872
i havent played smtiv in ages and probably won't in ages but honestly if i did i'd probably go for all the fashion options
visible armor is cool as hell
Anonymous No.535168749
>>535161137
will this be compatible with vanilla V?
Anonymous No.535170139
Anonymous No.535170421 >>535172942
Hehehe
Anonymous No.535172942 >>535173046
>>535170421
is nine character artist the same guy who made kite and mezzo forte?
Anonymous No.535173046 >>535176426
>>535172942
Yerrpp that's right
Anonymous No.535174075 >>535174179
>>535143903
>>535144106
>>535161137
Vfags aren't just degenerate coomers, they said.
Anonymous No.535174179 >>535174392
>>535174075
Ringoschizo does nothing but shit on V, but he also datamines it and poses with the models. I remember him making sahori and Tao stuff back with the original switch version.
He's a paradox
Anonymous No.535174392
>>535174179
Tsundere behavior
Anonymous No.535174873 >>535176317
Is chatgpt technically a demon since it's just a construct built from human information
Anonymous No.535176317
>>535174873
Anonymous No.535176426
>>535173046
nice

ngl i wish we did have one h scene with FeMC in Kite with her hair down. she looked way cuter that way
Anonymous No.535177710
>>535153304
>you need an account to see this image
Sad.
Anonymous No.535179209 >>535182428
Anonymous No.535179260 >>535194765
Anonymous No.535180174 >>535182428
Isabeau is so underrated, I think she needed a makeover midway through tokyo though with hair extensions.
Anonymous No.535182395 >>535182516 >>535643749
This artist is underrated.
Anonymous No.535182428
>>535180174
I like the idea of her having an absolutely killer sleeper bod, like in >>535179209
It would make since that she was fit, being a samurai and all.
Anonymous No.535182516 >>535182582 >>535183742
>>535182395
Nozomi actually looks appealing here. And damn Isabeau
Anonymous No.535182582 >>535182757
>>535182516
They can make almost any demon look good.
Anonymous No.535182757 >>535182810
>>535182582
You say that as if Leanan Sidhe was already "hot mature blonde lady in a low cut dress"
Anonymous No.535182810 >>535183107
>>535182757
I know, but I wanted to post that image anyways.
Anonymous No.535183107 >>535183320
>>535182810
Isabeau and Asahi look the sexiest here
Anonymous No.535183320 >>535183742
>>535183107
It's because you can clearly see the hip definition the most.
Anonymous No.535183742 >>535184045 >>535184387
>>535182516
>>535183320
i hate nozomi so much. what were they thinking getting her to rat you out to the hunter's association? nanashi can't die fine. but I wouldn't be surprised if hunter association didn't just outright fucking lynch you right there and then.
Anonymous No.535184045 >>535184387 >>535184754
>>535183742
Many of the "friends" in the game can say you outright hate you depending on your choices. Isabue, if you kill her, says if you decided not to help those who were injured, that she has despised you ever since and was planning to murder you anyways. Asahi and Toki are the only ones that aren't using you for their own goals.
Anonymous No.535184095
Do heroines prefer demons with horsecocks or demons with canine cocks?
Anonymous No.535184295
What did Jimenez mean by this?
Anonymous No.535184387 >>535184620 >>535184754
>>535183742
There’s a lot of missteps with the characterization of your ‘friends.’ If anything Gaston is probably the better written character since he’s consistent. Nozomi ratting you out by pretending to be your ally? Okay that’s fine, but you can’t have both where she betrays your trust and goes back to your party. I honestly think that her being a hunter glowie is neat, if it went all the way at least where she leaves the party entirely. I don’t know, just a thought on that.
>>535184045
>older women want to kill you
>the girls of nanashi’s age are pretty chill
Atlus, what did you mean by this?
Anonymous No.535184620 >>535184840
>>535184387
Aahi and Toki are more innocent to the world around them, while Izanami and Isabue have faced much more shit where they have survived that long for a reason. They don't have any more SMTlV art.
Anonymous No.535184754 >>535185216
>>535184387
i know we memed this a shit ton but the game should've really been you and asahi against the world.
>>535184045
haha isabeau was funny as fuck "I always hated you".
Anonymous No.535184840 >>535185295
>>535184620
You know, that’s a fair point. Asahi is extremely innocent and naive with Toki being sheltered. Makes sense there. Gaston still second best partner though
Anonymous No.535185216 >>535185295 >>535185346
>>535184754
>you and asahi
No see, it would have been really cool. Nanashi is the magic using godslayer while Asahi is the comp and gun user so there’d be a reason as to why they would stick together in a practical sense, and them being childhood friends for the obvious. These two against both the demons and the hunter association who think Nanashi is a demon, Asahi dying by shesha causing nanashi to crash out and sacrifice the universe to bring her back, etc etc. I’m just spitballing and in no way an industry writer, but apocalypse really did have some very cool concepts that would have surpassed the original IV
Anonymous No.535185295 >>535185346 >>535185670
>>535184840
Gaston I would consider having an innocence to the world with his upbringing and being a Samurai, not seeing Tokyo until recently. He steals my press turns, so I never used him. Most of the game he's using the party as a means of an end, and by some point he begins to actually like the characters with him. The same could be said for Narrve where at first he's using the party but then grows to like everyone.
>>535185216
Apparently the original idea was Asahi's dad being the MC and her being a child heroine.
Anonymous No.535185346 >>535186191
>>535185216
>>535185295
hey man don't dare say that's your idea because that was OUR idea, we've regurgitated that over and over again in the past generals haha
Anonymous No.535185641 >>535185838 >>535185847
Are there diminishing returns for stats over 200 in SMT4?
Anonymous No.535185670 >>535185847
>>535185295
….do I just like innocent characters naive to the true workings of the world?
Anonymous No.535185838 >>535186497
>>535185641
Bit of a soft cap at ~250 but you’re more than welcome to keep putting in points for the stats. You can go 999 if you had the time to
Anonymous No.535185847 >>535186497
>>535185641
Not really, it's very minimal and there is no reason to stop stat dumping.
>>535185670
Nothing wrong with the idea as it gives some idea to want to protect them. While girls like Nozomi can protect herself.
Anonymous No.535186191
>>535185346
My favorite joke from that proto discussion is toki being a dilf hunter just to piss Asahi off
Anonymous No.535186497
>>535185838
>>535185847
Perfect, I'll keep it going
Anonymous No.535188821 >>535190309
I actually like Nanashi and Asahi final design compared to the concept art
Anonymous No.535190309 >>535191710
>>535188821
Asahi is sexier with her final design.
Anonymous No.535191450 >>535191557 >>535211892 >>535215252
Isabeau bros....
Anonymous No.535191557
>>535191450
Monkey look like THAT!?!
Anonymous No.535191710 >>535192532
>>535190309
Can agree-the cap + dress she has is much sexier. Simultaneously innocent yet sexy
Anonymous No.535192532
>>535191710
Doi knows how to draw sexy girls.
Anonymous No.535192987 >>535193312 >>535206464
can we just commission a lot more desu2 and smt iv stuff? Thanks! :D
Anonymous No.535193312 >>535193537
>>535192987
>DeSu 2
Meh
>iv
Only of asahi
Anonymous No.535193537
>>535193312
WHAT
Anonymous No.535194765
>>535179260
what an angel
Anonymous No.535195735 >>535196579
Anonymous No.535196579
>>535195735
weird looking dog
Anonymous No.535197808 >>535198007 >>535198626
>>535122040
Most of Atlus's rereleases add unnecessary content or characters that turn the game into less than the sum of its parts. You can't just staple new events and characters onto a game and have it function. Alex is pretty bad and her involvement drags down the value of the mainline plot.
I would say that VV is one of the few exceptions because Vengeance is very clearly a case of "what if we actually finished the fucking game." Not even Nocturne is totally safe from this because, while the Labyrinth of Amala is a cool dungeon, it devalues all of the other paths through the game by making TDE have the most content by a mile. Doing the Labyrinth also fucks with the fairly tight pacing of the base game.
Anonymous No.535198007 >>535198608 >>535198724
>>535197808
Is P3FES still their "best" rerelease? I'm trying to think of others but I haven't played EO or Radiant Historia.

I guess P5R was okay but they BROKE that gameplay lmfao.
Anonymous No.535198608
>>535198007
Probably. The extra material in FES was almost purely upside and wasn't intrusive. Aigis always should have had a social link and it helps fill out December where you'd probably be running low on things to do normally anyway. The Answer is hit or miss, but importantly it is basically just an epilogue chapter, so it doesn't step on the main game's toes.
P5R is a weird one. The gameplay is absolutely broken because the game was already piss easy even without the additions of traits and whatnot, but the writing additions are super mixed. Maruki is a decent villain and his plot is honestly better than much of the main game finale to me, but I despised Sumire and how forced her addition is to an already bloated cast. She's similar levels of annoying as Alex in Strange Journey or Marie in P4.
Atlus is just awful at add-on stories because their writing is typically mediocre to begin with, but then they strain it further by trying to get ambitious before even having solid footing.
Anonymous No.535198626 >>535198721 >>535199183
>>535197808
V was a finished game already. CoV is basically playing the same game again with some small add ons. One new map and one dungeon are the only significant content changes. What CoV did was add back a cut story plot about snakes since the whole game's metatextual narrative is about original sin, down to the Nahobino dynamic itself but it means nothing because Lucifer is completely absent from the plot. Turns out Yoko was where the snake plot was, they just didn't know how to fit it back in after the rewrites.
Anonymous No.535198721 >>535199059
>>535198626
>V was a finished game already
Stopped reading.
Anonymous No.535198724 >>535198784
>>535198007
I'd say the best Atlus rerelease is DeSu overclocked, most of it are gameplay upgrades and instead of shoehorning a new ending they chose to expand three of the already existing ones. I feel like this is the only case we've ever had of a rerelease truly making the base game obsolete.
Anonymous No.535198784 >>535199097
>>535198724
desu2?
Anonymous No.535199059 >>535199164
>>535198721
I'm not surprised since you think a glorified port is barely any different from the base game. Or even call that "finished" in comparison.
Anonymous No.535199097 >>535199135
>>535198784
I'll be honest, I never played Record Breaker so I can't compare the two. I emulated vanilla DeSu2 on my phone five-or-so years ago and didn't like it very much so I never bothered to replay it.
Anonymous No.535199135
>>535199097
heratic!
Anonymous No.535199164
>>535199059
Neither game is finished
Anonymous No.535199183 >>535199483
>>535198626
>What CoV did was add back a cut story plot about snakes since the whole game's metatextual narrative is about original sin
I'd say this is pretty indicative of the game being "unfinished" in the colloquial use of the term. They "finished" the game in the sense that it went gold and they shipped it, but it was lacking in some areas and it wasn't complete thematically. VV just adds back in what should have been there from the start and delivers a more interesting plot.
Anonymous No.535199483
>>535199183
Thematically yes, but gameplay wise the game was complete. And even then they did try to keep the original sin plot in the game, they even showed Lucifer tempting Dazai and Abdiel, but it wasn't nearly as prevalent as it needed to be.
Anonymous No.535202539 >>535203034
The snake/dragon elements are so obviously present in nahobinos design to the extent before release people were predicting the true identify was going to be watatsumi, but the entire plotline ended up being cut and only references to the bull part were left in a single questline
Not being able to implement a plotline that literally influenced key parts of the mcs design (and is a core facet of the structure of the entire universe) sounds like a pretty unfinished game to me
Anonymous No.535203034
>>535202539
This was speculation and secondly the new form with Koshimizu has a lot more snake elements in the design. Also this can still be true in the base game. This isn't the first time Susano-o has been compared to a snake in smt. Think about how Susano-o represents duality of law and chaos. Law is the bull while chaos is the snake. So the fact he has elements from both surrounding him just make sense.
Anonymous No.535204107 >>535204274
Someone is definitely working on a SMT II ps1 patch, they're just hoarding it until it's done hahaha..... right?
Anonymous No.535204274
>>535204107
maybe Tom will do it once he's done with Persona
Anonymous No.535206464 >>535206772 >>535206842
>>535192987
Someone should commission another megaten NSFW pixel animation, but with SMT IV.
Anonymous No.535206772 >>535207357
>>535206464
Any decent artists?
Anonymous No.535206842
>>535206464
DeSu2 already has pixel characters tho
Anonymous No.535206939 >>535207197
in what SMT games is lucifer an asshole?
Anonymous No.535207197 >>535207636
>>535206939
Most of them.
Anonymous No.535207357 >>535208590
>>535206772
I was thinking theevilfallenone, since he did make two already.
Anonymous No.535207636 >>535208375
>>535207197
1,2,3 he seems fine
Anonymous No.535208375 >>535208940
>>535207636
>1
>screws with you using Lilith, tells you to turn around from fighting Asura several floors down just to waste your time fighting Beelzebub on an island in the middle of no where
>2
>thinks he has to take a chunk out of the millennium with a snake and it's the only way to stop YHVH's plan, if you tell him that's fucking stupid as neutral he'll fight you and then say "oh maybe you were right" and tells you how to kill the snake
>3
>tries to sell you on an anti-creation pyramid scheme, makes a copy of your teacher that talks like her to manipulate you
Anonymous No.535208590 >>535209749
>>535207357
what about anyone else?
Anonymous No.535208940 >>535209106 >>535209321
>>535208375
the beezlebub part was funny as fuck. why was he like that lmfao.
Anonymous No.535209103
Rie SMT1?
Anonymous No.535209106
>>535208940
he's a fly nigga bzzzzzz
Anonymous No.535209321
>>535208940
>why was he like that

>Lilith plan failed, knows she is going to get her ass kicked shortly
>"Hey did you know there is this super secret way to beat Asura??? Fucking walk all the way back up and go to this random island for a surprise!"

If anything it was desperate and he was hoping you would be stupid enough to go.
Anonymous No.535209749 >>535210194
>>535208590
Funk dangerfield and Froll are pretty decent.
Anonymous No.535210194
>>535209749
>both unavailable
It’s over
Anonymous No.535211071 >>535212065 >>535212284
Yuriko reverse raping hero in amazon position while heroine is tied up and forced to watch
Anonymous No.535211892
>>535191450
Built for BDC (big demon cock)
Anonymous No.535212065
>>535211071
Anonymous No.535212284 >>535212420 >>535212489
>>535211071
>reverse raping
Isn't that just consensual sex? What the fuck is reverse rape?
Anonymous No.535212420 >>535212554
>>535212284
It's just goonbrain talk for when a woman rapes a man
Anonymous No.535212489
>>535212284
It's when a woman has sex with a faggot
Anonymous No.535212554
>>535212420
>goonbrain talk
Ah, that's why it makes no sense.
Anonymous No.535214134
I goon.
Anonymous No.535215192 >>535215449
I got the goonies
Anonymous No.535215252 >>535215381
>>535191450
Lore wise what is stopping me from forcing Isabeau to lust after me with continued attacks of marin karin
Anonymous No.535215381 >>535215536
>>535215252
Flynn
Anonymous No.535215449
>>535215192
Meta Sloth
Anonymous No.535215536 >>535215734
>>535215381
Okay so what’s stopping me from doing so when Flynn gets kidnapped?
Anonymous No.535215734 >>535217139 >>535217592
>>535215536
Me.
Anonymous No.535217139 >>535221536
>>535215734
Anonymous No.535217592
>>535215734
>Repels Dream Fist
>Smirks
>Madness Needles even harder
Anonymous No.535221536
>>535217139
>not Fire of Sinai
Anonymous No.535222779 >>535222998 >>535223158
So.... news soon right? Gamescom and Tokyo Game Show are coming up....
Anonymous No.535222998 >>535223137 >>535223847
>>535222779
Doubtful. At best, maybe a port to the switch 2 of VV
Anonymous No.535223137 >>535223402 >>535223847
>>535222998
>At best, maybe a port to the switch 2 of VV
Would require a nintendo direct and I think there is no hope for that for a while.
Anonymous No.535223158
>>535222779
DLC soon, VVbros. This time for real.
Anonymous No.535223402
>>535223137
With no direct, then there is no news for SMT at all.
Anonymous No.535223847 >>535224039 >>535224420
>>535223137
>>535222998
my god what's with switchies and always muh ports muh ports muh ports.
Anonymous No.535224039 >>535225058
>>535223847
The only reason to care is new content in the form of dlc sold on the other platforms the game is on. Other switch 2 ports also do this.
Anonymous No.535224420 >>535224984 >>535225058
>>535223847
What would be the most likely news for atlus?
>new game
Lol
>dlc
Lmao
So really it’s either a port or nothing, most likely nothing
Anonymous No.535224984
>>535224420
The only thing VV needs for the switch 2 is a minor patch which would get them few to no new sales. It doesn't even need a direct, just a twitter post saying we fixed the resolution and frame rate cap, go download the patch on the nintendo eshop. That still hasn't happened yet, probably because they have nothing to gain doing that. If they want to make money or even sell an entire Switch 2 port, it has to come with new content.
Anonymous No.535225029 >>535225501
Toki should have been a hag
Anonymous No.535225058 >>535225324
>>535224420
>>535224039
it's not that but it's just more if you have an announcement or like a nintendo direct or something that shit shouldn't be ALL fucking ports.

also atlus going between systems is fucking stupid. nintendo ps1 ps2 nintendo again the fuck are those dumbasses doing
Anonymous No.535225324
>>535225058
If VV is done then the only other feasible thing would be more ports. IV being the most likely. A new smt game won't be for a long ass time.
Anonymous No.535225501 >>535225558 >>535225745
>>535225029
>Clingy chaos touch-starved milf
Hold up, you might be onto something.
Anonymous No.535225558
>>535225501
That's just Lilith again.
Anonymous No.535225745
>>535225501
Anonymous No.535225814
I never even knew he count become binded.
Anonymous No.535226178 >>535226414 >>535226497 >>535227236 >>535228274
I really wasn't expecting to get neutral.
Anonymous No.535226414
>>535226178
>he got demon ending
Anonymous No.535226497
>>535226178
doesn't Hikaru say the same thing when you first encounter her there after finding Waltuh?
Anonymous No.535227236
>>535226178
>he thoughted
Anonymous No.535228274 >>535228358 >>535248501
>>535226178
>side by side
I hate that
Anonymous No.535228358 >>535244682
>>535228274
It's good enough.
Anonymous No.535229579 >>535229743 >>535229749 >>535236667
>people say IV A has the happiest ending
walter and jonathan are still dead....
Anonymous No.535229743
>>535229579
They're talking about the other ending.
Anonymous No.535229749
>>535229579
am I supposed to care
Anonymous No.535230256 >>535230348 >>535232568 >>535233042
before i play smt iv, do i have to read or watch rose of versatitties?
Anonymous No.535230348
>>535230256
Yeah, game is unplayable otherwise
Anonymous No.535232493 >>535232996
>tried to summon a mature DFC hag demon
>accidentally summoned a naive big tiddy goth demon instead
It's hard out here for a Summoner
Anonymous No.535232568
>>535230256
and anime/manga/anime (remake)???
Anonymous No.535232996 >>535233841
>>535232493
Try summoning a job.
Anonymous No.535233042
>>535230256
Yes, make sure to order your maid costume now in preparation for IVA
Anonymous No.535233306 >>535236430
>go gun shopping
>immediately fuck up with magazine ejection
How the hell did Futsuo not fuck up with the guns he buys?
Anonymous No.535233841
>>535232996
I do have a job, how else would I have enough MACCA and MAG to summon demons?
Anonymous No.535236430
>>535233306
SMT isn't meant to be realistic. What gun did you get?
Anonymous No.535236667
>>535229579
Pretty sure CoV law is currently the happiest smt ending now.
Anonymous No.535237698
SMT IV Law is a pretty good ending, murder-suicide aside.
Anonymous No.535244682 >>535247008 >>535253287
>>535228358
Bald.
Anonymous No.535247008
>>535244682
Hair loss comes for us all
AlexIsMyGirlfriend !!DOeRHmR5mV1 No.535247187 >>535262502
>>535132761
just play it blind, pussy
Anonymous No.535247651 >>535250738
>tripfag
>shit taste in waifus
That tracks
Anonymous No.535248501
>>535228274
Big and small screens makes the bottom too small, I wish I could pick the scaling
Anonymous No.535250738 >>535250907
>>535247651
newfag
Anonymous No.535250907
>>535250738
oldfag
Anonymous No.535251336 >>535253298
What was Atlus trying to say by having Susano-o replace YHVH as the one true god?
Anonymous No.535252165 >>535253574
I don't know how I feel about SJR so far. In Sector D and I just think going to the SMT 1/2 formula kinda stinks. especially with random stat distribution like frick off I just wanna unga bunga. It hasn't really clicked for me and while I thought getting locked into certain demons would be cool but it's just fucking annoying lol.

also what the heck is with womb of grief? I could only clear floor one and then floor two freaking wipes me.
Anonymous No.535253287
>>535244682
Bald thread
Bald general
Bald game
Bald series
Bald franchise
Bald company
Anonymous No.535253298 >>535257018
>>535251336
Nothing, the one true god is the Great Will, YHVH is just an avatar, plus last game had a thirteen year old take God's place, so it's nothing special.
Anonymous No.535253574 >>535254206 >>535254364 >>535257559 >>535258067
>>535252165
>Sector D boss
oh my fucking god is the rest of the game going to be this bullshit too?
Anonymous No.535254206
>>535253574
Mostly yes, strange journey is a pretty tough game.
Anonymous No.535254364
>>535253574
Sector E was the point where I went "oh okay, so its this kind of game" and realized I was just going to have to grind my HP higher than what she could hit me with.
Sector D's boss is merely an annoyance in comparison
Anonymous No.535255930
>Nahobino's sword looks and feels like slapping them with a floppy noodle.
I miss Demi-Fiends snappy punch. The sword has zero impact
>Normal battle music is trying to be cool like SMT4's explosion of action
Nice try but it's not as cool
Anonymous No.535257018
>>535253298
A human replacing YHVH and abolishing all religion has a narrative behind it you know. That doesn't just mean "nothing". It's about atheism.
Anonymous No.535257559 >>535258067
>>535253574
Aren't you playing the demake that lets you make your entire team immune to status effects for free? The fuck is your problem?
Anonymous No.535258067
>>535253574
holy this is so cheesy, I've fucking had 1/20 tries where I got to half health but everything else is just he charms my demons oh look they wipe me LOL GG SKILL ISSUE >:D
>>535257559
you dumbass you get that AFTER you beat this boss
Anonymous No.535258663
I swear this must be a canon event or something. it really seems like you have to win this fight with black frost as your last stand homie.
Anonymous No.535259260
ringoschizo plays: Strange Journey Redux
Anonymous No.535259492
>...Ugh...How shameful...to be defeated...by a human...
why does sound like hentai
Anonymous No.535260079
does everyone make everyone a schizo now?
Anonymous No.535262356 >>535262685 >>535262808 >>535264438 >>535265878 >>535269195 >>535565072
Who is your Heroine?
Anonymous No.535262502
>>535247187
I want to actually understand what is going on
Anonymous No.535262685
>>535262356
Aogami
Anonymous No.535262808
>>535262356
Asahi
Anonymous No.535264438 >>535265123
>>535262356
I'm the heroine
Anonymous No.535265123
>>535264438
h-hi
Anonymous No.535265878
>>535262356
Marici
Anonymous No.535267783 >>535268579 >>535269195
In SMT4 I need some help. I want to do the quest that allows me to fly, but no demon has given me the quest. UI haven't gotten to the bottom right corner of the map and I have no idea how. I can't do one of the required neutral quests without being able to fly and I'm in a pickle.
Anonymous No.535268469
please send help
Anonymous No.535268579 >>535268804
>>535267783
This is the first time I heard you could fly in SMT 4, is this still a thing in 4A? Also you can get more quests by going to a bar and looking at the blackboard or score thing
Anonymous No.535268804 >>535268906
>>535268579
It's a demon quest. I have to go a certain region to get the quest.
Anonymous No.535268906 >>535269441
>>535268804
A demon quests where you have to negotiate for it to work? If it's not popping up you might have to clear even more quests to unlock it, try the wiki to find the quest you're looking for.
Anonymous No.535269195 >>535269441 >>535270091
>>535262356
Yoko.

>>535267783
Don't forget not only to look at all boards when Burroughs gets an update (she won't auto pickup all side quests), but there's some quests you can only get by scouting demons (usually these have a very high priority, if you go 5 or so and don't get a quest, safe to assume demons don't have a quest to give).

>the quest you get a ship
That's post alignment lock, very late game. Need to send the White in bodybags levels of late game, not just choosing Ichigaya or Tsukiji Hongwanji.
Anonymous No.535269441 >>535269808
>>535268906
>>535269195
I'm late game. I only have 2 required side quests for neutral, but Tokyo Cosmos needs the flying to get to certain areas faster without dealing with random encounters
Anonymous No.535269808
>>535269441
Then you just need to Scout more demons and ask for details when they give a quest (could be to another side quest if you didn't pick them up), maybe try it near/at Camp Ichigaya as that's where I got a few of demon-talk quests for the late game. It won't be guaranteed first demon you talk to but usually has a high priority.
Anonymous No.535270091 >>535272612 >>535306667
>>535269195
Anon, that's a butch lesbian snake.
Anonymous No.535271172 >>535473291
>>535133031
Made it all the way to the final boss without much difficulty but he absolutely mollywopped me due to his debuff build combined with being immune to my strongest weapon that I totally did not get by cheating at Keno in the casinos. On the bright side I finally got to meet my guardian spirit, but I guess it's time to actually grind out some levels and fuse up some demons to counter his bullshit.
After the Envy dungeon I'm convinced that whoever is heading these games 110% has a hypnofetish with how many mind control/brainwashing arcs there are in these games. not that I'm complaining, it's a kino fetish.
Anonymous No.535272612 >>535272804
>>535162090
>funniest moment?
Isabeau when calling Tayama out for kidnapping children for his School advert. I like to think Tayama was laughing (lmao these Mikado kids don't know school) and sweating (he either already did or was about to) in equal measure. Close second being pic related by absurdity, this is so awkward to me it'd fit in The Room.
>unpopular opinions?
For IV? I don't know really unless saying it's a mixed bag (positive leaning) is a hot take.
>did you like the references to the past games?
I didn't play the original games so I can't say much beyond the Demonicas and I don't think much of them.
>how would you describe smt 4?
Wanting to save full thoughts for when I'm finished and roll credits, compiling my thoughts meanwhile. If I had to go for a tl;dr currently, "comfort SMT". Is it the best thing SMT game ever? No, SJ and VV exist. Is it the worst thing ever? Also no, IVA exists. It has many rough edges but was still a game I had a lot of fun of because it got things well enough that I can just play it and relatively relax. Chaos route was as fun as my first time, even after recognizing the many caveats within.
>favorite aspect of smt 4?
Walter (or maybe just the higher brass of chaos reps here as Lilith/Lucifer both shone too despite the rest of the game trying to paint a dark chaos interpretation), the ost, or how powerful your demons can get without needing to be at end game. Its dumb I'm loading up on Nulls and Pleromas before level 40 but the path to the rainbow demons of bullshit is nice. And yes, Walter is an absolute Chaos-bro, part of my ending headcanon will be acting as his wingman while he's inside Lucifer's mind palace. I know Lucifer said the conscience died in the fusion but considering Walter says a piece at the end of his boss fights in Law/Neutral, I don't think its far-fetched to say they're back-seat gaming more so than anything.

>>535270091
Idk about you but she was holding hands with my Nahobino.
Anonymous No.535272804 >>535273828
>>535272612
He also held hands with other people and she also held Tao.
Anonymous No.535273828 >>535273937 >>535278089
>>535272804
But not sensually like the final red-carpet walk out onto the next world's sunrise.

And now my nightly IV parting thoughts, hope you all sleep well, this is a long one.

>Walter's sacrifice
Got me realizing as I picked the dialogue to be the sacrifice, I kind of wished the player had more agency in their alignment. A lot of Chaos/Law is just following the reps. Yes they're fine reps, I'm proud to be Walter's shield-brother, but I picked the self-sacrifice dialogue because I don't necessarily get a moment to shill Chaos myself and that future needs a heart behind it like Walter. It adds just the slightest bit of hollowness to Walter's speech because what type of leader have I made myself at this point? Maybe there'll be small moments where I can showcase it, perhaps I can fanfic the sidequests as something, but I remember the ending clearly and the game itself doesn't recognize how you acted within the alignment. How's the new Tokyo gonna be when Nozomi's leading the fairy village? When I've proven myself as one to believe in rematches in the hunter tournaments? Admittedly this is more a personal SMT gripe with how Chaos generally gets handled, Naoya's route's the big exception coming to mind where you can define it, but Walter's speech highlighted it here. Maybe I'm just spoiled by good Obsidian games or something.
>"We will demonstrate the laws of power to the kingdom of deceit"
Complements to the verbal assassination Squidward, appreciate didn't forget about Walter but why are you paying me macca to beat up Merkabah? It's probably one of the most bizarre payouts in the entire game.
>Analyze rant
Burroughs, why is it piss? It doesn't update as new info's presented (such as you hitting with an element), it doesn't give you information about their conditions (such as an ailment). I think I made Isabeau sick but I can barely tell because she's already a dark sprite so its not a big contrast. It should've been a perma-Spyglass.
(1/3)
Anonymous No.535273937 >>535276618
>>535273828
>sensually
When? And the narration says the world hasn't ended yet. Did you read it?
Anonymous No.535274723
Rare NINE art.
Anonymous No.535275974
NINE is a hoax
Anonymous No.535276618
>>535273937
Talking about the CoV Chaos ending itself. Yes it's more current world's sunset rather than new world's sunrise, but that's a thin line since "a new future will be born".
https://youtu.be/NhApPSVrkVw?t=985
Anonymous No.535276974
>yo check this out, demons they talk like this "eeh ehhhhhh ehhhhhhhh"
>but angels, they talk like this "ouooooooh"
Anonymous No.535278089 >>535278893
>>535273828
>Isabeau (fight)
For the fight itself... I had NDR phys on my team and targeted Joan of Arc before she could LCandy, it was not in Isabeau's favor from the start. Even when holding back and not using spells until the very end it was a steamroll, a concentrated Ziodyne from Samael would've one shot her Valkyrie. Finally its weird that Isabeau's team didn't seem to have any elemental coverage (or it was all on Joan of Arc who died quickly). Tetrakarn spam + poor targeting meant Isabeau's Riot Guns didn't force me out of Siegfried's clothes when I ramped up. As for the writing. Feels like she got the wrong memo about what my brand of Chaos is on about, especially when this is coming after Walter's speech about not being Kenji 2.0. Could work if it was her trying to showcase that the ideals would be unreachable against how it'd be in practice but that's not how she goes about it. This did ruin the dynamics as it felt like I'm punching Pirate Software a bit, especially as the first dialogue went hard into the dark lord of chaos. But doing nothing at the last 25% was nice, and her taking her own life to preserve your hands was a strong moment for Isabeau. Maybe pin this on Infernal Tokyo not being developed enough (1) due to writing/console limitations, low hanging fruit as it might be to blame dev hell. I do know about the NPCs in Tokyo but I don't see demons in any of the shelters when making my rounds and doesn't mitigate my complaints, that being Isabeau feels like she's complaining about Cernunnos' chaos, not mine/Lucifer's.
>1
Yes it had gang wars but all you did was assassinate a top head and a guard, you never really got to experience the conflict real-time. Wasn't like the overworld had demonoids doing their best to prove their strength but get replaced as you progressed here to show how cheap life is.
(2/3)
Anonymous No.535278893
>>535278089
End Game Round-up: Day 1
>Infernal Ikebukuro
A pleasant surprise, I like there's more time to flesh this world out a little more. Its a surprisingly clean district despite the people being more inline with Kenji than Akira. The four horsemen quest should've let you fuse Belial if you were chaos aligned instead of locking him behind the law route, and why does the shop's armors only resist? We're post alignment lock, why's the only armor that isn't from Ginza's back alley shop a quest unlock from Mikado just to Null Fire? Balor's balling a Null and a resist with zero weakness aside from one ailment (Sick) well before this point.
>Infernal Shibuya
Pleasant surprise #2 also for the extra demons somewhat easily accessible, Berserker's a nice find. Still wondering why the doors in Ichigaya don't unlock in all 3 worlds. I get wanting equality Akira but I did that have to include equal suffering? As mentioned before I am taking a look at the NPCs here and Covered Tokyo to see how they're reacting to everything.
>Demiurge
Another Riot Gun user? You know I figured the gun-weakness on Siegfried's armor would've been flavor-text at end-game, not an actual detriment, 2nd one that succeeded in making me explode. Also is the first time I had to recognize AI boss patterns. He won't touch Judgement Light if Tretaja's used and will Dekunda at -3, not beforehand. That said he is the first scary boss since the Koga's first fight, when he wasn't clicking Attack on Phys Drain Lilith (salty dog?), he was scary with Debilitates out the ass, Antichthon and applying sick (I/Lilith freed us of Sickness) made this the first fight of attrition. Probably helped Son Goku kept whiffing Myriad Arrows too, maybe because he was under-leveled (only level 60). Topping this off with an epilogue from Lucifer, it just reminds me what I wanted from IV side quests. This should've been the standard, not the exception alongside Nozomi's quests.
(3/3)
Anonymous No.535281124 >>535281938
is shoji made of win?
Anonymous No.535281938
>>535281124
yes
Anonymous No.535282385 >>535282880
In SMT1, what's the max number of item/money/mag requests a demon can ask from you? I just got a demon fleecing me of 4 items before finally relenting. I don't even know what they want to use it for.
Anonymous No.535282880
>>535282385
You can tell a demon no and then try to pacify them. If it works they will only ask for one more of something and then join you. If you don't do that and just keep saying yes they can ask for more up to 5 times.
Anonymous No.535293181
Anonymous No.535297369 >>535297437
Anonymous No.535297437
>>535297369
Based Amon.
Doi is a hack and stole design.
Anonymous No.535301452 >>535306156
Anonymous No.535304070 >>535306614
What was their fucking problem
Anonymous No.535306156
>>535301452
Now Messiah, you must...eat.
Anonymous No.535306614
>>535304070
They were trying to find the messiah
Anonymous No.535306667 >>535312331
>>535270091
A butch "lesbian" obsessed with bussy
Anonymous No.535307715 >>535307776 >>535307935 >>535308139 >>535308864 >>535334556 >>535381316
Rank the following
>I
>II
>III
>SJ
>IV
>V
IV > V = III (V plays the best but III is a "better" experience) > SJ > I > II
Anonymous No.535307776
>>535307715
lV>SJ>2>3>1>>>V
Anonymous No.535307935
>>535307715
V>SJ>III>I>II>IV
Anonymous No.535308139 >>535310020
>>535307715
VV>IVA>SJ>I>II>V>III>IV
Anonymous No.535308864
>>535307715
SJ >= IV >= III > II > I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V / VV
Anonymous No.535310020 >>535310560 >>535310919 >>535311597
>>535308139
>rating base V above Nocturne and IV
Bait
Anonymous No.535310560 >>535310895
>>535310020
I just enjoyed it more than those two.
Anonymous No.535310895 >>535312279
>>535310560
I'm willing to concede that to IV but if you enjoy it more than Kinocturne then you have dogshit taste my man. Not to mention V is poorly trying to ape Nocturne.
Anonymous No.535310919 >>535311080 >>535311137
>>535310020
IV is above V though. o_o
and III is equal to V. I think V is just a really fun game to play but it's absolutely scuffed. It's probably the game I'd least like to play a replaythrough of lol. It feels so one and done compared to the other games. Maybe it's just the open world autism and lack of variety.
Anonymous No.535311080
>>535310919
ngl. sorry folks, I think I might've squatted a little too hard at the gym this morning.
Anonymous No.535311137
>>535310919
>IV is above V though
No that's IVA. And yes the open world fatigue makes replying V a fucking nightmare.
Anonymous No.535311597 >>535311845 >>535565568
>>535310020
IV is the worst game in the series. It's unironically an unfinished mess.
Anonymous No.535311845
>>535311597
Yeah but it has funny memes
Anonymous No.535312279
>>535310895
I don't know what to say, in spite of its many qualities, Nocturne also has a lot of tedious and unfun shit, which is why it rank so low.
Anonymous No.535312325 >>535312475
Rankings are gay.
Anonymous No.535312331 >>535315287
>>535306667
She cared more about Tao after the school section.
Anonymous No.535312475
>>535312325
Why haven't you posted your ranking then?
Anonymous No.535313096 >>535313946 >>535314018 >>535314719
SMT Tokyo requiem is being released via steam
Anonymous No.535313946 >>535314492
>>535313096
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/
If it gets a translation patch then I'll buy it.
Anonymous No.535314018 >>535314223 >>535315153 >>535340797
>>535313096
>another literal who phone game
damn we're eating good
Anonymous No.535314223
>>535314018
SMT is saved
Anonymous No.535314492 >>535314705 >>535317105
>>535313946
They don't even have the decency to put cheevos into these g-mode games
Anonymous No.535314705 >>535314867
>>535314492
>cheevos
Gay.
Anonymous No.535314719
>>535313096
Devils coliseum and hazama chapter please, thats basically all the remaining ones I want
Anonymous No.535314867
>>535314705
I need to beat video game and have the validation of video game telling me I beat video game so I can show everyone online my gamer cred
Anonymous No.535315153 >>535325071
>>535314018
Definite cope but what if the phone games being pushed to steam is an experiment for maybe smt 1-2 to be pushed there?
Anonymous No.535315287 >>535317662
>>535312331
Fujocope.
Anonymous No.535316842 >>535317262
Anonymous No.535317105 >>535317312
>>535314492
It's a Unity container which is holding an emulator for a flip phone inside and the unity container is sending data to and from the emulator.
Anonymous No.535317262
>>535316842
this was a good fap
Anonymous No.535317312
>>535317105
it's still possible to do achievements with a setup like that but cheevos are gay anyway
Anonymous No.535317414 >>535317516 >>535317604 >>535324758
Anonymous No.535317516
>>535317414
Anonymous No.535317604
>>535317414
Anonymous No.535317662
>>535315287
Insisting Yoko ever saw him as more than a friend is the cope.
Anonymous No.535318405 >>535318554 >>535318836 >>535322320 >>535340321
Anonymous No.535318554
>>535318405
Anonymous No.535318836
>>535318405
>Inside you there are two Wolves
Anonymous No.535319327 >>535319812 >>535319980 >>535320147 >>535321449 >>535322314
Anonymous No.535319812
>>535319327
holy sexxo
Anonymous No.535319980
>>535319327
cunny club
Anonymous No.535320147
>>535319327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2LQMElLoLs
Anonymous No.535320757 >>535321238
Anonymous No.535321238
>>535320757
>now neither of us will be virgins
Anonymous No.535321449
>>535319327
Imagine the demon summoning....
Anonymous No.535322125 >>535325807
Why is she so OP in VV?
Anonymous No.535322314
>>535319327
ToT...
Anonymous No.535322317
Anonymous No.535322320
>>535318405
Holy shit it's Lucemon Falldown Mode
Anonymous No.535324758
>>535317414
That's it, I'm getting me Garudynes.
Anonymous No.535325071 >>535325807 >>535326997
>>535315153
Never going to happen. G-Mode is the one who's rereleasing these games because they legitimately want their older catalog more accessible than being stuck on phones from the 2000s. The only thing Atlus does is giving them the thumbs up, as they own the SMT/Persona IP. Also by the way, Atlus would not simply port SMT 1 + 2 onto PC. They'll come up with some method to force you to buy the game around $70, bunch of dogshit DLC, and slap Devuno on it as a bonus.
Anonymous No.535325807
>>535322125
>last resort
>destroys a city block
>>535325071
You are right but man is that disheartening all the same
Anonymous No.535326792 >>535326960 >>535329072
SMT but your heroine is a little girl demon who focuses on drain spells
Anonymous No.535326960 >>535327992
>>535326792
can she drain the protag to give him a buff
Anonymous No.535326997
>>535325071
The only thing I can hope for is they do a collection of the older SMT games for 80 dollars
Anonymous No.535327992
>>535326960
yes
Anonymous No.535329072
>>535326792
literally Acheri, you plebian
Anonymous No.535329435
Drain: Balls
Anonymous No.535330424
https://youtu.be/D-pGTDOIPac?si=89cVtY0pVxMJwACf
Anonymous No.535332749
Age Verification Dyne
Anonymous No.535332975
Grokma
Anonymous No.535333821 >>535334129 >>535348816
Anonymous No.535334129 >>535334354
>>535333821
made for big Pazuzu cock
Anonymous No.535334354 >>535345015
>>535334129
Why are you like this
Anonymous No.535334556
>>535307715
III > SJ > II > I > VV > IVA > IV > V
Anonymous No.535338083 >>535338393 >>535338524 >>535344515
It's a little weird how you guys rate V and VV seperately but don't do III vs III Maniax vs III Chronicle and SMT 1 (SFC) vs SMT 1 (PS1) vs SMT1 (gba) vs SMT2 (sfc) vs okay let's be honest nobody played the untranslated versions yet.
Anonymous No.535338393 >>535338694 >>535338817
>>535338083
I'd be surprised if there's even one anon here who has played through vanilla Nocturne
Anonymous No.535338524 >>535338694
>>535338083
You some kinda retard?
Anonymous No.535338694 >>535339185
>>535338524
>>535338393
You can play vanilla Nocturne right now on the HD remaster you very smart demon hunter you.
Anonymous No.535338817 >>535340370
>>535338393
There's a retard here who did it a few years ago completely in Japanese without knowing a lick of the language just to prove a point. He was rightfully laughed at.
Anonymous No.535339185 >>535341195
>>535338694
it still isn't vanilla even if you play without the DLC
Anonymous No.535340009
>>535112663 (OP)
I like how in the visionary quests the extremely authoritarian fundamentalist stance that Gimel takes is said by the ‘elites’ to be contrary to true Messian ideals, really giving an image that the true original Messian ideology is very different to what we think they are.And it makes sense with the Messian’s hermetic trappings with hermetic Christianity being linked to humanism in the Renaissance, there’s an irony of a group that would be persecuted by mainstream churches becoming the same tyrannical church like what they broke off from

SMT makes it clearer that the law faction tends to be at odds with law’s actual ideology, in almost every SMT game this seems to be the case even the law ending for SMT 1 clashes with the messian’s extremist ideology, law is linked with socialism and equality but we always see the law faction do the exact opposite (in SMT 2 it got so bad that it made Chaos care for the weak, at least temporarily during the events of the game only to destroy the centre and any semblance of law, in contrast. And when you got the guy who in the first game explicitly said that he is the embodiment of a world where the weak is crushed by the strong to support those that are weaker to spite you, you know you are fucked) of that only to be corrected by the true forces of law.

Would love for the origins of the messians to be explored, how they are like when they are truly aligned with their ideals instead of given to corruption
Anonymous No.535340321 >>535341402
>>535318405
>old man grooms shirtless teenage boy
Anonymous No.535340370 >>535343359
>>535338817
what point was he trying to prove?
Anonymous No.535340797
>>535314018
I mean these games would be completely unplayable and lost otherwise, it’s great for preservation and they expand the story/worlds of previous games

The most impressive and important ones are the persona 2 ones, since they actually have substantial content that actually adds to the original in terms of story but we haven’t gotten those yet. I am glad we got 20XX I was looking forward to that since I wanted to see an expansion of Tokyo Millenium, the persona 1 sequel seems to be quite minimal and disappointing despite the cool premise but I am glad that we got that still; at least more time with the characters even if it is a bit shit, and we get to see the persona 1 cast in makai
Anonymous No.535341195
>>535339185
don't manual skill inheritance
Anonymous No.535341402
>>535340321
>leads me in a campaign to destroy all creation
>first world we jump into
>"Ok we're going to kick this guy off his throne off and start a war here"
>wait a long as time
>fight in war
>kill god (again)
>Lucifer gets some knowledge juice
>"Actually, I was wrong. We're fighting an impossible up hill battle here. I'm going to groom another teenager and put him on the throne to end creation in this world because the rest are hopeless. This will at least send a message to big GW that his rules can be broken. It's the best I can do.
>wat
>Tells me to chill in the hall of chaos until the teenager arrives
>he's blue and looks like a fag

Thanks I guess
Anonymous No.535341819
>>535112663 (OP)
>>535112663 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDDxY3M5qFw

Why haven’t you started yet? You have time for 15 minutes of basic rituals a day, right?
Anonymous No.535342520 >>535342730 >>535573905
>>535156606
SMT 2 is the Persona 2 of SMT, both these games need hard-type patches with level scaling or extremely diminished exp for enemies of a lower level to prevent over-levelling. Magic in SMT 2 is so fucked that it must have been glitch with how useless it is in terms of damage, and luck has the opposite issue of it not taking much luck for you to get countless items from every fucking battle so that you constantly are over encumbered. Fantastic game, terrible gameplay
Anonymous No.535342730
>>535342520
My ocd way of playing is partially the issue, because I like to check everything including demon negotiations to get the most out of the game but I am not the only person with this issue
Anonymous No.535343359
>>535340370
nta but iirc that vanilla was superior or something
Anonymous No.535344515 >>535347357
>>535338083
SMT 3 maniax can be essentially played the exact same as vanilla in the same playthrough, you aren’t getting a completely different experience just one added to the already existing base vanilla game

If you are comparing V with VV then you are essentially comparing chronicle of creation with chronicle of vengeance
Anonymous No.535345015 >>535345197
>>535334354
He's Pazuzu
Anonymous No.535345197 >>535347382
>>535345015
Labubu
Anonymous No.535347357
>>535344515
don't care. make it consistent
Anonymous No.535347382
>>535345197
Labubu, Labu Labu Labubu
Anonymous No.535348816 >>535349123 >>535349938 >>535351173
>>535333821
why does she get a doujin out of nowhere?
Anonymous No.535349123 >>535350745
>>535348816
The thought process for this was that it would have been nice to have something for the digital devil story series, and that maybe someone might get inspired to play MT2 after their fap session.
Anonymous No.535349938 >>535350745
>>535348816
because that nigga paid for it, bless his autism
Anonymous No.535350745 >>535359053
>>535349938
>>535349123
what are some underrated SMT/MT related doujins
Anonymous No.535351173 >>535352076
>>535348816
Man paid 1k for it.
Anonymous No.535351926 >>535366878
>>535112663 (OP)
Are the residents of the abyss so desperate?
Anonymous No.535352076 >>535353845 >>535364485
>>535351173
man if that's all it takes....
no wait that's hella expensive the fuck? I'd pay at max $200 and that's not even USD.
Anonymous No.535353785 >>535353847
IMAGINE If... Meguro kept making kino electro rock instead of cringe jazz and boring orchestral music
Anonymous No.535353845
>>535352076
10 pages of anything, regardless of quality, is gonna get expensive
Anonymous No.535353847 >>535354624
>>535353785
Imagine If? Like an Imagine sequel that takes place in a school? That would be neat.
Anonymous No.535354624 >>535354804
>>535353847
Persona 1 and 2? SMT V is as school based as SMT it is honestly
Anonymous No.535354804
>>535354624
I would rather have a more occult persona game
Anonymous No.535356726 >>535359659 >>535360102
>>535112663 (OP)
If you replaced the fucking in porn with dungeon crawling or non-story gameplay, then SMT 1 and 3 would be a film like Caligula; yes there are plenty of hardcore scenes that distract from the plot, but the plot is still very much carrying the film. SMT V in comparison barely qualifies as a hardcore porno, honestly close to being internet porn
Anonymous No.535359053
>>535350745
That one soul hackers doujin with the sister
Anonymous No.535359659
>>535356726
yeah, for sure...
Anonymous No.535360102
>>535356726
What
Anonymous No.535360380
Hahaha
What if
What if there was like a skill called fountain of youth and it turned you into a loli as a status effects hahaha
I just think it would be funny if your heroine got turned into a loli
Wouldn't that be so funny lol hahaha
Anonymous No.535360840 >>535361452
>>535147690
May we see it?
Anonymous No.535361452 >>535379274
>>535360840
https://files.catbox.moe/a1hp9q.7z
Anonymous No.535363901 >>535364440 >>535367506
>Sector E
okay now I really kinda wanna join you guys in playing SMT IV instead..
Anonymous No.535364440
>>535363901
might as well skip to V if you just want a game that babies you
Anonymous No.535364485
>>535352076
Multiple pages costs a lot of money. You could go on fiverr and pay for it from some Indian, but there is very limited quality control.
Anonymous No.535364686 >>535366635
One thing nobody mentions is how most of the Ring of Gaia dies off when the route split happens.
Anonymous No.535366635
>>535364686
Is that not a plot point in IVA?
Anonymous No.535366878 >>535367276
>>535351926
Cool image, where's it from?
Anonymous No.535367276 >>535367613
>>535366878
Cover art by Jack Gaughan for Isaac Asimov’s Science Fiction Magazine, March 1978
Anonymous No.535367506
>>535363901
Just use a guide. It's not even a fun teleporter maze. It's just pointlessly confusing.
Anonymous No.535367582 >>535367902 >>535368061 >>535368340 >>535368779
Do you think soul hackers 2 will get the rerelease treatment at some point to try and bandaid it, or will they move on and never acknowledge it again?
Anonymous No.535367613
>>535367276
> It was ironic that Ann Bagley got mixed up with a bunch of extraterrestrials in a night club at the top of the Mile-Hi Building in Chicago. But maybe it was inevitable. She was the daughter of the minister of a flock in a place like Zion, Illinois, home of the ecclesiastical fig newton, only it was a smaller place. I won’t name it here, or name him....
Parallel worlds, interplanetary romance, and religion are just some of the elements of this gonzo science fiction story!
Anonymous No.535367902
>>535367582
Most likely it won’t be acknowledged except for the occasional blurb that it exists. It didn’t do well sales wise and several fans have a mixed to negative opinion on it, even from the devs themselves
Anonymous No.535368061
>>535367582
Watch them think it’s because of a lack of interest in devil summoner instead of it being a shit game
Anonymous No.535368340
>>535367582
It would need a full remake, not just a few patch.
Anonymous No.535368779
>>535367582
In a few years I think they will. They probably have a priority to make other rereleases first.
Anonymous No.535368882 >>535368985
>>535112663 (OP)
>had a dream I lived in a virtual reality game with Tokyo Millennium aesthetics
>apocalyptic last moments of the game, meet woman in storage facility, game shuts down all turns to black
>a few days later get to the part in SMT 2 where I have the option to shut down Arcadia, though I don’t irl

Very unexpected prophetic dream, but it did have a creepy somber vibe when I had it
Anonymous No.535368985 >>535369153
>>535368882
Oh cool someone else that has prophetic dreams of random bullshit
Anonymous No.535369153
>>535368985
It’s been happening a lot, though sometimes I have visions of something that will happen the next day even while awake, though I do relevant spiritual work so it’s not like they are unasked for
Anonymous No.535375175 >>535375408
>>535112663 (OP)
Awkward silence
Anonymous No.535375408 >>535375538
>>535375175
Anonymous No.535375538
>>535375408
Anonymous No.535377795 >>535379008 >>535388145
Anonymous No.535379008
>>535377795
An all star American.
Anonymous No.535379274 >>535379363
>>535361452
Also in case you’re weary about the link, you can find the original here in the dude’s profile
https://bsky.app/profile/xelandis.bsky.social
Anonymous No.535379363 >>535379482
>>535379274
>troonsky
Anonymous No.535379482
>>535379363
>check twitter for original link
>dead
Take what you can get. I’m still trying to shove asahi into New Vegas
Anonymous No.535381316
>>535307715
Of what I've played so far from best to worst
MT2
SMT2
SMT1
Majin Tensei (second half)
MT1
-
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P-P-P-P-POWER GAP
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Majin Tensei (first half)
Last Bible 1
-
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NOW ENTERING THE ABYSS
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Last Bible 2

Currently on SMT IF which looks like it's probably going snugly between Majin's second half and MT1
Anonymous No.535383315
Was the comic where Hazama calls Akira fused with Amon cringe and gets told he is cringe actually something that was drawn?
Anonymous No.535388145 >>535388181
>>535377795
What is this
Anonymous No.535388181 >>535388272
>>535388145
Play Maken. It's peak.
Anonymous No.535388272 >>535388917
>>535388181
ATLUS can't make action games
Anonymous No.535388330 >>535388814
Sector E almost completed. Transportation was whatever, I got it locked down pretty well. What I didn't fucking like was spending 1-2 hours looping trying to find X-Metal only to realize the passage is completely out of the transportation shit. >_>
Anonymous No.535388407 >>535388917
I want to make a 3d model of Asmodeus, but I'm practically a beginner at it.
Anonymous No.535388814 >>535389780
>>535388330
Sector E is fun once you get the teleportation down, and you’re almost done besides a couple more objectives. Hope you like Jack
Anonymous No.535388917
>>535388272
Every action game Atlus has released has been fun
>>535388407
Same. Asmodeus is one of the more complex models too.
Anonymous No.535389260
Anyone have the text box png for SMT 4 apocalypse? I am currently discussing asahi content with the guy that did the futsuo mom incest animation and debating on making a cutscene
Anonymous No.535389410 >>535394528
>>535162090
The Hunter Tournaments have been the hardest part of the game so far, to the point that I actually had to start using consumables. Maybe it's just because I'm an Ag-let, but every single team went first and usually killed at least one demon before I got to act. That and not being able to change my team before the next fight made me restart quite a few times. Thank god it's over.
Anonymous No.535389780 >>535398638
>>535388814
not gonna lie SJ is a LOT more old school then I thought. I was expecting a lot less bullshit but I feel like I had a much easier time in SMT1 and SMT2 and even IF.
Anonymous No.535389959 >>535432823
Merkabah down, his instakill from his breasts kept getting spammed. Flynn's DPS has gotten around 500-700 since getting the plasma sword, which is making it easier. I'm going to do some of the smaller side quests to see what I missed before Killing Lucifer.
Anonymous No.535394528
>>535389410
A big part of them is instant kill spam. The final are more annoying since the hunters there have protection against certain types of instakills and use group instakills themselves.
Anonymous No.535397120 >>535397428 >>535398473 >>535402343 >>535408830 >>535408979
I have played every game related to dds/mt, what do I play now?
Anonymous No.535397428 >>535398298
>>535397120
Play with your ass
Anonymous No.535398298
>>535397428
That's how it started, obviously.
Anonymous No.535398473
>>535397120
Hundred Line
Anonymous No.535398638 >>535398768
>>535389780
of course ourobous is a bitch too >_> freaking hell
any tips? I thought of just getting all chaos demons since that's all the fusions are giving me and even asura black flame could not handle mahama + status effect bungaloo.
Anonymous No.535398768 >>535400878
>>535398638
Frost Ace is very good in this section. But it’s been a while and Ourourbus is a bitch to deal with, so just outheal her and try to focus on survival rather than pure damage
Anonymous No.535399639
For me, my only strategy for Ourourbus was to go in over leveled. That's it. If I was going to sit there fighting her for ages because of how much she heals, I might as well grind instead. Fight is definitely not that bad when you're 5 levels over what level you should be there.
Anonymous No.535400878
>>535398768
ngl I just really cheesed her and fused everyone with agidyne and just melted her that way. actually 45 range gives you lots of null expel demons which was nice
Anonymous No.535402343 >>535403239
>>535397120
Graduate to Pokemon nuzlockes
Anonymous No.535402864 >>535403251
End Game Round-up: Day 2
>Torifune's Shawl; the ship
Do wish it had more QoL like lifting you off from anywhere but it's still a very appreciated way to expedite movement across Tokyo. Noble attempt of the mini-map trying to differentiate landing zones from the other areas even if overworld-map doesn't.
>Multi-Demon Fusion (Cernunnos)
It was a fight that used Megidolaon alright, the most notable thing being my team having a strong inclination to missing with their multi-target, do I need to farm AGL Incenses for all of them? I can excuse Wukong for being in the mid 60s and maybe fucking over math somewhere but Demiurge, you're level 96 with a fucking +1 ACC boost, what's your excuse?
>South-West Tokyo (Tennozu + Toyosu)
Very appreciated the Monochrome Forest folk have a home without Girimehkala considering you can't go there anymore. Shout out to Kiba Storage reminding me of the man-made horror known as Twisted Tokyo. Gauntlet Whore, why can't you have an emergency mapper program that let's a player keep track of their steps, I don't see you handing out pen and paper for this shit.
>Baal + Beelzebub
Baal was neat in that he threw a variety elements instead of almighty but wasn't much of a fight. Beelzebub scared me because while Demiurge might've had Antichthon, he wasn't spamming it as much as Beelzebub would spam Megidolaon after Heaven's Bow wasn't working out enough, Lilith could live two when buffs were in order but not 3. Took a few attempts to optimize my damage, was stubborn in having Wukong stay even if he was just a bad debilitate bot. Notably this means I completed all the sidequests you can in NG for chaos route.
>Trivia: Where are my early/Mikado Demons at now?
They became Demiurge, Seth, Amaterasu, Lilith, and Wukong.
>Fucky happenings
Lilith, why are you doing more Attack damage than Wukong? He has more Str/Dex than you. Can't even say level-scaling because this persists even after both hit 99 and Wukong has a lot more STR.
(1/2)
Anonymous No.535403239 >>535403684 >>535413976 >>535432494
>>535402343
but I don't like building squads of monsters or dungeon crawling, just here for the vibes/story
Anonymous No.535403251
>>535402864
>DLC
Also yes I'm grinding for pet demons via DLC and and aim to deal with the bosses too. Plan to handle them before the Purgatorium. Now here's to hoping I don't need the entire stock at 99 and they're good enough.
>More trivia
Leveling up low/mid level pet demons with the apps does make them really good in comparison to just high level natural demons, Mara has around 130 STR and nowhere near as good in the other stats. Also Occult Flash is not a signature skill from Masakados, you could farm skill mutations for it on a demon and put it to the compendium if you really want it (had the choice but denied it because it'd replace a good skill I had on the demon).
(2/2)
Anonymous No.535403684 >>535404029
>>535403239
You've don't like building squads of monsters or dungeon crawling but played every MT game?
Anonymous No.535404029 >>535413976
>>535403684
that's right. all the dungeon crawling feels like a bullet I have to bite to get to the rest. I mean the monster squad building is fine I don't mind it at all, it's just not what I'm there for. but my favorite games are definitely the ones that don't have very complex dungeons, which is thankfully the majority
Anonymous No.535408830
>>535397120
Play fangames.
Anonymous No.535408979
>>535397120
read the Lesser Key of Solomon and summon some real demons
Anonymous No.535413976
>>535403239
>>535404029
Anonymous No.535418918
Anonymous No.535419008 >>535427296 >>535432574 >>535514482
https://files.catbox.moe/s5f9j0.png
I noticed this cool megaten artist (https://skeb.jp/@o_mitomi) had a pretty low price considering the high quality of their art so I wanted to get a smt1 heroine/s from them
Anonymous No.535427296
>>535419008
I've seen their art before on twitter.
Anonymous No.535427789 >>535454265
Is she a kuck queen or does she still have a chance?
Anonymous No.535430730 >>535432161 >>535436613 >>535436815
is sj really the hardest SMT game? at least in mainline? like god damn bros I feel like most boss fights are a literal dice roll depending on how much RNG wants to FUCK me. Ourborous 2 was hardest than 1 with how much his physical MELTED my agi bots. it sucks too since there's not much demon variety at this level and my alignment. I mean I get it they shouldn't really have the same balancing but I do wish there was a more designated design choice like Law has more and better demon choices early game compared to late game and Chaos is the opposite while neutral is the happy medium or something like that compared to a complete hmm, am I going to find an alignment demon that's actually decent or do I have to fuse shitmons until the next level range.
Anonymous No.535432161 >>535439231
>>535430730
Ouroboros is a huge difficulty spike and the hardest boss in the game because the first 4 sectors are easy, the only time I died before Eridanus was from a mudo in the second sector and I played full blind
As long as you use demon co-op you won't have much trouble
Anonymous No.535432494
>>535403239
You're a fake fan.
Anonymous No.535432574
>>535419008
That's really fucking good for that price, I have to learn skeb.
Anonymous No.535432823 >>535434172
>>535389959
What would this design even look like in 3d I wonder
Anonymous No.535434172
>>535432823
i don't think some of the guest designs work in 3D since they re very flat, in 3D Merkabah's true form would be a pretzel
Anonymous No.535436613
>>535430730
SJ has the hardest story bosses but only has 1-2 difficult dungeons.
Anonymous No.535436815 >>535448954
>>535430730
Meme Alpeh buck breaks you if you let her
Anonymous No.535437656 >>535440121
My late game Nahobino build

Profaned Land will be replaced with Paraselene Blur but that's the only thing I plan on changing
Anonymous No.535439231
>>535432161
...idk about you but asura was a straight bitch too
Anonymous No.535440121 >>535450874
>>535437656
>canon name
GAY
Anonymous No.535448954
>>535436815
She can be a huge bitch if you've been coasting for a while. I got to her when I just had a couple shitters filling out my party and was surprised for some reason when she molly-whopped my shit until I actually fused a couple of ringers.
Anonymous No.535449029
>convert asahi’s model to .nif
>holy shit I can finally have this chick in new vegas?!
>invalid directory when applying model to a new character
Tfw no asahi as your heroine
Anonymous No.535450874
>>535440121
Only gay because you can imagine Aogami saying it to him late at night.
Anonymous No.535451294 >>535451814 >>535452098 >>535453410
holy fuck SMT needs more villains like Jack. SJR story is so fucking good. Why the fuck did Atlus stop making stories like this and Catherine?
Anonymous No.535451536 >>535458594 >>535461623
I wish they gave new moves in the neutral route to the final bosses
Anonymous No.535451814 >>535453098
>>535451294
>SJR story
that's just the SJ story. SJR is when they butchered it.
Anonymous No.535452098 >>535452942
>>535451294
Anon those filters look awful, jesus fucking christ
Anonymous No.535452797 >>535452996 >>535465546 >>535465748 >>535465997 >>535574537
If you had a 1/10th scale clone of Beth would you torture it?
Anonymous No.535452942
>>535452098
what filters
Anonymous No.535452996 >>535453060
>>535452797
no but can she cast magic
Anonymous No.535453060
>>535452996
She can but its 1/10th of the power of normal beth's
Anonymous No.535453098
>>535451814
are we playing semantics? okay what is the difference between a pail and a bucket?
Anonymous No.535453410
>>535451294
This guy and the whole Jack's Squad segment just felt like a missed opportunity to me
There should have been a route where you join him and stop the Schwarzvelt's expansion without destroying it and use all the formas you farmed to catapult humanity into a new golden age of technological advancements
Anonymous No.535453478 >>535453660 >>535457321
The only thing about SJ is I wish the cast was a little bit more emotive. It doesn't really feel like they're desperate to get out and they're stuck in hell. I get some of them are trained soldiers, but also a good chunk of them are just there because they're scientist and stuff and they're definitely not trained for this type of stuff. Maybe because the mission was already a suicide mission? Although don't think that was the case. Like crashing in Sector F should've been some huge oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck but it was just "welp shit, arthur what do we do now?"
Anonymous No.535453643 >>535453817 >>535460098
I wish we got more stuff like the megami tensei OVA. I'm not even asking for full length anime series like desu2 or persona. Just ovas at least
Anonymous No.535453660 >>535457321 >>535459906
>>535453478
Soldiers should not panic and freak the fuck out, especially when these teams are supposed to be the best the world has to offer.
Anonymous No.535453817 >>535453949 >>535460098
>>535453643
Then I hope you asked for it when there was a question specifically about that in the survey and said yes.
Anonymous No.535453949
>>535453817
Survey wasn't in my region
Anonymous No.535454265 >>535454424
>>535427789
Susan narries the Kushinada-Hime
V-kun marries the snake girl

Seems shrimple to me.
Anonymous No.535454424
>>535454265
But none of that happened. Aogami doesn't eve want Kush to know he exists.
Anonymous No.535455338 >>535455438
Anonymous No.535455438
>>535455338
snake slut
Anonymous No.535456462 >>535456664 >>535464943
>>535162090
I had the name Hooligan under the smtg plays website. But here is my save data, and I made it where it showcases the final Flynn build with the save file. No, I didn't plan for it being 42:42:42. Happy accident with 42 being the meaning of the universe.
>funniest moment?
Waltah casting Agi.
>unpopular opinions?
Law/Chaos feel more satisfying for endings compared to neutral in the gameplay/context/dialogue. It doesn't help every Red Knight form is harder than the default final bosses. Monkey not being there for Lucifer to say anything makes it feel a little empty fighting him.
I think the biggest unpopular opinion is that I like Johnathan, he feels very dynamic with some of his interactions. He's never brought up when people mention good Law reps in the series. There are so many good law reps that it could be that most people would rather think about Zelenin/Amane or Zayin who are very unique and direct than someone more down to earth like Johnathan.
>did you like the references to the past games?
Yes, it's comfy with how it's showcased.
>how would you describe smt 4?
The culmination of what is SMT with what came before it outside of Nocturne.
>favorite aspect of smt 4?
This playthrough I've gotten more involved with the basic weapons/guns/armors. I like being able to customize Flynn with it being visual. Tokyo is great where every aspect feels alive with things to discover.
Anonymous No.535456664
>>535456462
I forgot to mention Dazai, but you know.
Anonymous No.535457321 >>535459906 >>535463829
>>535453478
>>535453660
this is funny to read because a common complaint of SJ's writing is that no one acts like soldiers and everyone is too emotive/fragile
Anonymous No.535457672
need more witch heroines
Anonymous No.535458591
Anonymous No.535458594
>>535451536
they took the SMT1 references too literal
Anonymous No.535459239 >>535459758
The next game will combine the role of heroine with ____?
Anonymous No.535459714
Most of the population in Tokyo must have gotten completely wiped out with just a 30 second warning before the nukes dropped.
Anonymous No.535459758 >>535463594 >>535474327
>>535459239
Personally I rather the six party system
Anonymous No.535459906 >>535461912 >>535462863 >>535463157
>>535453660
>Soldiers
me:
>I get some of them are trained soldiers, but also a good chunk of them are just there because they're scientist and stuff and they're definitely not trained for this type of stuff.

>>535457321
really? because some of the cast never even seen combat before and i'd imagine they would be freaking significantly more out.
Anonymous No.535460098 >>535460836
>>535453817
>>535453643
Atlus dropped the ball on P5 anime and DeSu2 anime and just said never again LOL
Anonymous No.535460836 >>535462654 >>535464943
>>535460098
Man an anime about Strange Journey (not redux) would be so good. If GATE was popular back in the day, there’s no doubt that SJ would be pretty popular with the current era of anime fans since it hits all of their bullshit
>oh my god anime with adults as the protags
>oh my god it’s just like LotGH’s!
>demons and death
>this guy said fuck it’s so mature!
Anonymous No.535461623
>>535451536
I wish the demon that was hyped up as the Neutral final boss wasn't cut out of the game and sold as Day-1 DLC
Anonymous No.535461912 >>535462621
>>535459906
>but also a good chunk of them are just there because they're scientist and stuff
>best the world has to offer
Anonymous No.535462407
I got banned from the smtg discord for not being a good fit for the server...
Anonymous No.535462621
>>535461912
yes and? you think a biologist is going to be perfectly cool where people are getting torn in half?
Anonymous No.535462654 >>535463829 >>535486487
>>535460836
>this guy said fuck it’s so mature
You just reminded me of "that" scene in DmC with Donte and the ugly succubus where they just spam fuck and act like it's the coolest thing ever despite being bringy as fuck.
I guess it doesn't take much to impress burgers.
Anonymous No.535462863 >>535464282
>>535459906
You don't understand how a military works it seems. Scientists, logistics, and tech personnel get field training when part of the military. Pilots too. All these people do not go into the front lines but they are all trained under the prospect that if they are forced to they can react appropriately and not just be gunned down and killed immediately. Have you ever watched Stargate SG1? Half of their survey teams are comprised of scientists and logistics personnel and they can all fire a gun and hold their own in a fight against all kinds of crazy ass scenarios. It's not that different from how the military actually handles it.
Anonymous No.535463157
>>535459906
IIRC only the Elve ship was dedicated to scientific pursuits in there, so most of the expedition was composed of soldiers as you'd expect
Anonymous No.535463175
>>535162090
>funniest moment
when the black samurai says "now you'll never know how your manga ends!"
>unpopular opinions
the ost is just okay. there are a couple songs i really like. namely, tokyo and battle c3.
>references
i think it made sense to include them. smt 4 is a return to the classic formula after nocturne deviated from it.
>describe smt 4
hard at the beginning but later on comfy. i nice handheld title.
>favorite aspect
the demon sprites. i liked demon whisper as a!mechanic as well. it gave me complete freedom in building flynn.
Anonymous No.535463594
>>535459758
I wish this design was used more.
Anonymous No.535463829 >>535468205 >>535484224 >>535486487
>>535462654
Would you believe me if Donte’s game has more nuance and subtlety compared to the Netflix anime?
>>535457321
While that is a valid complaint, you have to admit that the schwartzwelt is a situation that no amount of discipline can completely cover up the fear. It’s the rigorous drills and coping mechanisms by the experienced personnel that are able to get through it and by the time sector F hits, everyone is already accepting the new scenario with more of a “fuck, this again?” rather than the initial fear in the first sector
Anonymous No.535464282 >>535464474
>>535462863
I'm going to throw you in the middle of a demon apocolypse and record down how you cope.
Anonymous No.535464474 >>535486696
>>535464282
Half the episodes of SG1 were like that. I think of the crews in SJ much like that show which is why I mentioned it. Also you're being retarded.
Anonymous No.535464695
>be tough navy seals
>confirmed 500 kills and many awards
>visit a black hole to another dimension?
>Just another tuesday
>watch my entire crew get slaughtered by a single snowman
>other carriers destroyed
>wtf did command send me to?
Anonymous No.535464943 >>535465343
>>535456462
>Jonathan
I like him but I think the issue is that he's in the same room as Walter and Walter practically steals every scene he's in. Jonathan is mostly reserved while Walter is more willing to put himself out there/wear his heart on his sleeve (not a bad thing, but more a why one is more preferred than the other in terms of the fandom). Of course that just makes it where when Jonathan does crack just a little it's that much sweeter, have played the law route before.

>>535460836
>Pic name
Wrong. If it was actually good the player would be getting to lay his head on his demon lady's lap in the new chaos ending.
Anonymous No.535465343 >>535470054 >>535477998
>>535464943
Walter has all of the memes too.
Anonymous No.535465546
>>535452797
I would pour boiling milk in her eyes.
Anonymous No.535465748
>>535452797
Jar
Anonymous No.535465997
>>535452797
I use cumdyne on her
Anonymous No.535468205
>>535463829
>Would you believe me if Donte’s game has more nuance and subtlety compared to the Netflix anime?
Haven't watched it and probably never will but based on what I've seen in the threads on /v/, I have no issues believing you.
Anonymous No.535470054
>>535465343
I was more pointing out how the memes came about in the first place. While I'd have no problems with either as a shield-brother for less-faggy future (it is a moral imperative to avert the doomed IVA timeline), Walter just feels like a closer bro because he cares of the happenings of Tokyo (and Mikado in his own way) while Jonathan's more about Mikado exclusively. So in a game where you spend most of the time in Tokyo, Walter has more time to shine.
Anonymous No.535470218 >>535471634
IV should have had a lot more to do on the surface, both before and after you enter Tokyo. Such an underutilized area...
Anonymous No.535471634
>>535470218
The surface has side quests for gathering, but the dialogue is interesting. It would be nice if there was more side quests that open up before killing Merkabah, but some of them only happen when going into the forest into one of the areas to talk to where a guy there gives out quests.
Anonymous No.535473291 >>535486696 >>535512073
>>535271172
Managed to barely beat him in a few more tries after grinding up my levels and using a combination of reflections and debuffs to win a war of attrition.
And then I found out there was more.
I'm probably about to get my colon collapsed with my gaggle of beat up demons who hardly have any MP left between them and already just died and got rezzed. But Decarabia still has plenty left in the tank for attack debuffs, Reiko has magic reflect and defese buffs, and I got a shitload of Somas on the way here since Orochis were dropping them like candy.
Let's get it on,
Anonymous No.535473652 >>535475567 >>535476202 >>535477658
I think it's funny that devil summoner 1 has like... Vampires in it and they've never once come up again in any other game. Not like, an individual demon vampire the same as other demons, like kudlak or something. But as like a distinct race who can turn other humans into vampires
It's so weird
Anonymous No.535474327 >>535474692
>>535459758
ATLUS is crazy for this one
Anonymous No.535474692
>>535474327
crazy based
Anonymous No.535475567
>>535473652
The next heroine will be a vampire
Anonymous No.535476202 >>535478286
>>535473652
Now I want the game to be translated even faster
Anonymous No.535477658 >>535478286
>>535473652
haven't played debisama, are you referring to Victor doing a blood transfusion with a vampire or what
Anonymous No.535477998
>>535465343
jonathan has that cat thing
Anonymous No.535478286 >>535478464
>>535476202
>>535477658
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Tenzan_Tendou
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Takashi
The leader of an antagonistic crime group is a vampire and he turns a random gang member goon into a vampire through the course of the story
Anonymous No.535478464
>>535478286
weird
Anonymous No.535478729 >>535480402
Anonymous No.535480402
>>535478729
This artist is so good.
Anonymous No.535481831 >>535482046 >>535482329
good afternoon! i love megaten.
i wish you all a pleasant rest of your day.
Anonymous No.535481990
>Enemy Pierce Yap
What if Pierce in SMT, instead of ignoring all resistances, only ignored passive resistances. Works against a Drain Ice you passed onto a demon but not Sarasvati's native Repel Ice. Feel like this could be a good way to passive spam without making NDR completely worthless while still letting Almighty still have value. Admittedly probably not how it should be in the player's hands since Demons shouldn't have custom resistances (even if IV is willing to indulge) but idk how else to do it but all-or-nothing.
Anonymous No.535482046 >>535482473
>>535481831
Anonymous No.535482329
>>535481831
Anonymous No.535482473
>>535482046
hoy!
Anonymous No.535483816 >>535574875
There's lots of weird one off things in certain megaten games
IMAGINE is supposed to take place in the original timeline in-between 1 and 2 but it also has this weird... non human yet non demon race in it called yagi that aren't in anything else
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Yagi
Anonymous No.535484224
>>535463829
>Donte’s game
Nta but I honestly don't hate that game; it's no where near the mechanical depth of DMC proper but it's far and away one of the most fun Western action games
Anonymous No.535485445 >>535487560
I forgot just how much I love the atmosphere of SMT IV... The music does most of the work but the little 3D environments and lots of NPCs to talk to are all great. Makes me even more sad that IVA turned into the shlock that it is instead of being a fixed/expanded version of IV.
Anonymous No.535486487
>>535462654
>>535463829
I love DmC more than the anime.
Anonymous No.535486696 >>535493795
>>535464474
I have never watched it. I will pick it up. soredemo!!!! I still think having a hope spot of going home and then xD lol fuck you you're here forever would've driven anyone insane.
>>535473291
ugh I should go back to beat IF, the only thing I don't like is if you get sweeped here, you have to go back to the school and that means I have to go back up -> turbo grind -> die -> Fuse more demons -> get hinokagafiresword -> go back -> maybe grind a bit more -> go back down to fuse a bit more -> THEN face him again.
it's freaking annoying
Anonymous No.535486882 >>535487560
I wish there were expansive sources of information for IMAGINE. The wiki is pretty sparse. Theres this random little bitch called madam justice who has a butler called Alfred just like SMT2 madam, is she supposed to be a kid version of SMT L2 madam or is it just a funny reference?
If it were any other megaten I'd obviously just play to learn everything it but it being a weird MMO is off-putting
Anonymous No.535487543
>xD
Anonymous No.535487560 >>535488238
>>535485445
>Makes me even more sad that IVA turned into the shlock that it is instead of being a fixed/expanded version of IV.
what did he mean by this

>>535486882
just play it! it's pretty fun although a little weird to get into considering the fan made server has some OC changes so now builds and stuff are all new
Anonymous No.535488238
>>535487560
>what did he mean by this
It could have been IV but with fixed gameplay and a new ending instead of a whole new story with awful characters and a cringy tone.
Anonymous No.535491439 >>535492619
Convincing Isamu to be my discord kitten
Anonymous No.535492619
>>535491439
this but Mirai
Anonymous No.535493527 >>535498484
Hatless
Anonymous No.535493757 >>535603223
Society if atlus actually cared and there were no lost, inaccessible or untranslated megaten titles
Anonymous No.535493795 >>535494289 >>535494689
>>535486696
Would you have preferred if SJ had the entire crew roll up into the fetal position and cry while they all died because none of them could comprehend what was happening to them?
Anonymous No.535494289 >>535494647
>>535493795
at least one of them sure
Anonymous No.535494647
>>535494289
>at least one
There were probably some off camera as there were a lot of deaths. They didn't need to go into detail about every single one.
Anonymous No.535494689
>>535493795
Bigger question is who was the barracks bunny?
Anonymous No.535494973 >>535495405
is this a bug or something, jack uses terror shot on MC and it instant kills him. that makes no sense. am i missing something?
Anonymous No.535495405 >>535495679
>>535494973
Are you weak to pierce?
Anonymous No.535495679 >>535495902
>>535495405
nope I see it doing like 150/500 damage but I'm instantly dead.
Anonymous No.535495902 >>535498410
>>535495679
Oh shit then that is just a bug. It’s only supposed to paralyze you at a high rate, but think the paralysis got switched with insta death. Best tip I can say is get equipment that nulls death or resists mudo
Anonymous No.535496375 >>535496756
How the fuck do i beat the matador? my attack keep on missing and his wind attack is destroying me.
Anonymous No.535496756
>>535496375
Use buffs retard (fan girl at level 15 with sukukaja and Nozuchi for null Zan)
Anonymous No.535498410 >>535499682
>>535495902
oh fuck hope this doesn't screw me at end game
Anonymous No.535498484
>>535493527
WHERE IS HER FLOWER
Anonymous No.535499682
>>535498410
If insta death and paralysis are switched, you might have some fun in end game battles
Anonymous No.535504507 >>535513679
Looks like my Strange Journey is...οver.
Anonymous No.535504557 >>535506698
Hey does anyone remember how to get the national defense divinities? I thought you were supposed to talk with the master samurai guy in Roppongi and interact with the rocks, but for some reason when I try Tenkai's nothing happens. Law btw
Anonymous No.535506698
>>535504557
(me) seems like you need to go in twice that's stupid. I thinik it would be really easy to miss
Anonymous No.535506951 >>535507203 >>535510465 >>535510546 >>535513758
Meguro or Kozuka?
Anonymous No.535507203
>>535506951
Metaphor made me realize that Meguro is completely washed, all of the commissioned tracks he's made ever since he went independent sucked too.
Anonymous No.535509873
Sex with demons (asherah)
Anonymous No.535510465
>>535506951
Kozuka.
Anonymous No.535510546
>>535506951
Wasn't as impressed with V's ost but it's still good and IV's is my favorite of all time. Nocturne's is great but SJ's isn't exactly my favorite.
Kozuka
Anonymous No.535512073 >>535515545
>>535473291
VICTORY.
SMT IF COMPLETE.
Holy fucking shit those last two bosses were insane, especially after how much of a cake walk the rest of the game was. This is the first time I really had to build a team with serious thought.
After predictably getting my shit pushed in the first time I settled on building an unga bunga phys attack centric team with buff support which still faceplanted due to the accuracy debuffs. So I shopped around until I finally cooked up Durga who could nullify debuffs while also shitting out as much damage as Chud. Reiko rendered his magic useless so it was just a matter of waiting him out after that. My only real gripe is that it's insanely short compared to the other games. If it wasn't for the endgame stuff I'd have completed it in a day. Feels less like it's own game and more like an SMT2 Expansion pack.

Storywise I've noticed there's a trend in the overall series of the MCs getting cucked by all sorts of inventive means but Chud may be the most cucked of all, Reiko got brainwashed by a sex doll, brainwashed into stripping for literal rando demons during negotiations, and dumped the MC to fulfill her brocon fantasies in eternal purgatory. Poor dude took more Ls than an NTR protag.
Majin Tensei 2 next.
Anonymous No.535513679
>>535504507
kek
Anonymous No.535513758 >>535537492 >>535537750
>>535506951
Meguro. I don't give a single shit if Metaphor OST is bad or forgettable according to other anons here. The guy is responsible for creating the music of Nocturne, DDS, Raidou, every Persona entry except for Persona 2, Maken X, The Trauma Center series, Catherine, Devil Survivor 2, and the obvious Strange Journey. Without him, this franchise would have been worse in the music department. Also you know....those are good games he's been involved in. I don't think Kozuka has ever composed for a game that's widely agreed to be good.
Anonymous No.535514184
I really like how SJ references and recontextualizes shit from SMT1. It's neat. I do think the pacing is a little scuffed though.
Anonymous No.535514482
>>535419008
I'm having a payment from something through paypal sometime in the next 1-2 weeks, does it work with skeb? I know nothing about skeb, but that price point is too good.
Anonymous No.535514594 >>535544173
can you guys pay annonymously when commisioning
Anonymous No.535515545 >>535515913 >>535516380 >>535578008
>>535512073
Just started it up to make sure everything is working right and already have some thoughts.
Music is already best in the series so far, and it's the first game to use the then novel Stereo setting to it's fullest. Definitely a game to play with headphones on.
The intro was one of the coolest things I've seen on a SNES game.
The named characters look like James Sutherland, Ellis from L4D2, and Vince Russo respectively.
Unless the gameplay catastrophically shits the bed I think I'm in for some TRPG kino the likes of which I've never experienced before.
Anonymous No.535515913
>>535515545
I think you’ll like Naoki
Anonymous No.535516380
>>535515545
It's one of my favorites, have fun anon. Make sure you boost agility once in a while at least, having low agility in that game is a death sentence.
Anonymous No.535519496 >>535521392 >>535534980
anyone feel that II is overhyped?
Anonymous No.535521392
>>535519496
I've seen more people call it overrated than people talking about how good it is desu
Anonymous No.535522247 >>535522365 >>535523873
anyone feel that Ronde is overhyped?
Anonymous No.535522365
>>535522247
yes
Anonymous No.535523765
>PROFOUND AI BITCH SLAPPING
Burroughs, BURROUGHS, B U R R O U G H S! Can your Analyze function not be straight out of Bethesda Game Studios? Can it fucking work for rematches of the DLC bosses at the very least, please and fucking thank you. Did it to poke Sanat for a bit for any extra info/experimentation and the most I got was that Sanat has Javelin Rain for the lols. I guess if Sanat is any indication, bid me good luck against Masakdos' Shadow. My progress posts are the DLC bosses, each DLC gets its own post as I describe them and give thoughts.
>tl;dr
Archangels actually give insight into what good end-game SMTIV fights could be, Ancient of Days has decent writing for what it is but mechanically I'm not the biggest fan of it (but wasn't outright awful), Sanat gargles on enough dicks that I thought I walked into a fujo's horny fanfic. It's a shame the game couldn't have gotten the resources dedicated to a proper expansion for the alt timelines rather than the mixed bag of one-shot bosses and demons.
Anonymous No.535523873
>>535522247
no, it's neither overhyped nor underhyped because no one has ever talked about it
Anonymous No.535528763 >>535529220
DLC Round-up: Day 1, need new demons to beat Masakados' Shadow.

Clipped Wings 1
>Story
Feel like there's room to enable an alt Law ending based on what this "M" fellow is saying. But I also don't remember how dealing with Mastema went. Secondly, archangel boss fight theme is really fucking good.
>Uriel
Uriel fucking died, 4.8k concentrated Glacial Blast from Lilith and Wukongs Myriad Arrows for another 4k did him in on the 2nd round after a 4 hit Kannuki-Throw hit a Phys Drain. Kind of anti-climactic but with how the DLCs are designed as a 2-part boss rush, I think them being glass cannon is good.
>Raphael
As for Raphael, well he opened Serpent of Shoel which drained my Wukong dry and has custom resistances (Repel Ice instead of Null). He also has Dekunda/Dekaja and Rakukaja which seems just weird for something intending to be end-game. Though this was Atlus' first attempt so they might've not known what they were doing or sign-post when they should be done. The fact he had battle dialogue to go through was neat and puts it above move side quests.
>Base game Trivia
Lucifer/Merkabah do have lines for chowing down in Tokyo to heal which I thought was neat. Not common but neat.

>Extra TL;DR
If I were to give another issue for the DLCs beyond getting somehow worse in terms of gameplay after the archangels it'd be that you can't act on them. Your experience with the Archangels, Ancient of Days, Masakados' Shadow, and Sanat don't let you make new endings for the respective alignments. I get it'd be dumb to place it on beating a single boss from a DLC but less dumb than them meaning nothing. Ideally these would've been updates to farm goodwill (yes I know I'm talking about AAA gaming here) instead of micro-transactions, that way the small scale + some pallet swaps wouldn't have been that offensive. As is it stands it feels like wasted potential even if not all of it sucked.
Anonymous No.535529220 >>535530045
>>535528763
Clipped Wings 2
>Story
Not even an extra preamble? Okay.
>Gabriel
She's ailment spam with fucky Pierce. Most games have pierce be a blanket ignore, IV instead makes it where it pierces all but Repel, including passive Repels like from Abbadon... I was so close to give this game a massive W for a good implementation of pierce except I was getting it wrong until Michael showed me otherwise. She has Luster Candy and Megidolaon but doesn't seem to be spam happy on the latter so this isn't Beelzebub two. The main thing to lament is that Brand can't be cured with Salvation, wouldn't mind if it stopped the heal from Salvation so you'd need two heals for a demon but not a big fan of this Infinity+1-upmanship. Out of the DLC bosses this is the best one and shows IV at its best with a late game boss that keeps up with you decently well. A Charged Myriad Arrows did put her to half health but chop that up to IV's being fast paced and 4 hits is a high roll, though this is probably the boss that did last the longest in the entire game for me as I tried to get myself into a position to fire a high powered Myriad arrows through ailments.
>Michael
Fallen Grace is a potentially fine way to do almighty insta-kill, doesn't auto-kill unless they're severely under-leveled or a mage stat-spread that wasn't complemented, my main issue being that Doping isn't enough on its own (maybe split it two skills, one that's a percentage boost and another that's a flat boost, +300 is worse for high HP demons but for low HP demons it'd be better). Archangel's Grace forcing Smirk is scary but from what I can tell he did it after an attempt where I didn't have a Repel Fire to punish Inferno of God spam. The battle dialogue giving a heal + half press turn was a neat prelude to what IVA would explore. On my winning attempt, 2nd one, he died in 3 rounds.
Anonymous No.535530045 >>535530547
>>535529220
Ancient One of the Sun
>Story
Ixtab's favorite clients return and intro/outro's did nothing for me. Kiyoharu having his faith shatter is strong relative to the other DLCs for a character moment, weird it didn't do anything in the fight.
>Fight
New design is a step in the right direction. As for the fight? Sadly begins the first thing in a pattern with the three, that being these were made/nigh-balanced with the other DLCs in mind. If you hit a weakness, the AoD Diarahans, does mean we do have exact numbers for his HP at 17,775. Furthermore while he does have elements, they're basic ma-dynes so resistances matter. His unique skills are almighty attacks with either Poison or Brand and Spirit Focus, bigger multiplier Concentrate that also stacks with Concentrate (thankfully the boss doesn't have both). Finally he doesn't buff/debuff but does have Silent Prayer, what procs it? Can't confidently tell you. Experimentation leads me to believe its HP/time based? Not tethered to whether he healed or directly to the mid-battle dialogue. It is possible to beat him without abusing Brand from the archangels as he can be bursted down if you get room to buff. Don't even need Myriad Arrows, just a trio of Concentrated Deadly Winds should be fine even if I did use MA as 3rd damage. The most interesting part of the fight was how my slow Flynn could crit-smirk and did blunt his turns, preventing the Spirit Focus almighty spam nightmares. This does lead to my main hangup against the fight, it doesn't have much going on. The ailment spam was scarier on Gabriel because it was more than Poison, potentially getting in the way of things more and wasn't attached to a Concentrated Megidolaon that killed the team anyway. There was more to take into account with the archangel's magic for teambuilding and Raphael's MP theft felt like a better way to instigate a timer because 100 MP's a lot, that's 2 Debilitates/Salvations or a concentrated Antichthon.
Anonymous No.535530393 >>535569847
didn't ask
Anonymous No.535530547 >>535530940
>>535530045
The Eternal Youth
>Story
So we have Sanat going around claiming cities at first but then is chill enough we have to go to him for an audience? I get its $2.5 for a single boss but try a little harder. Fuck even the in-game battle dialogue makes little sense. What do you mean I'm thinking small when I mention "all possible futures", did you forget you're in a timeline jumping jamboree?
>Fight
First he nulls all but Gun, and those elemental nulls are custom, already a bad start. Then we have load-out, Dark Energy which is just physical Spirit Focus, Myriad Arrows, Silent Prayer, Javelin Rain, and his almighty skill, Gaea's Rage. First his Silent Prayer, he does it immediately upon +3 debuff/buff, +2/-2 is completely safe. Secondly, Gaea's Rage is an Almighty all skill that has a 30% chance to make the ally lost; super instakill that you can't revive from because fuck you. What trips him into spamming his super instakill move? I have no fucking clue. Experimentation didn't give me a clear pattern; one run had him spamming Myriad Arrows for a bit while I did almighty before 3x Gaea Rage, he hit a weakness + Null. Another run had him begin with Gaea Rage and never stopped, I only clicked almighty damage at the time. 3rd earnest attempt he randomly landed a basic attack on my smirked Takeru before missing a Gaea Rage. Was this the game's attempt to have a boss centered around maintaining Smirk to help dodge Gaea Rage? Note it's not 100% dodge chance btw, my monkey was Lost while in Smirk in the 2nd attempt. Won 3rd time because I got lucky enough to land a charged myriad arrows with Wukong and not lose my entire team amidst Gaea Rage spam. There's two things I can compliment, Dark Energy doesn't boost Gaea Rage and even if the responses suck, I like the dynamic they were trying with him trying to bring out your best potential even if his best idea was with Cancer.
Anonymous No.535530940
>>535530547
For the Past and the Future (currently filtered)
>Story
So you get to see how the firmament was formed with a little back and forth between Stephen and Burroughs. Alright I guess.
>Fight
Drain All? Drain All. This fight came with a price increase to $3 instead of $2.5, reminder this isn't IVA and pierce only exists if you got Sanat or the Archangel DLCs, otherwise its almighty time for your ass, which he also resists because fuck you. Nulled Shivering Taboo so no ailments to save you here. If his resistances are super aids maybe his skills/AI will be down-tuned to compensate? First I saw Curse Thy Enemy, an almighty that gives him smirk because it counts as a weakness. Homeland Song returns from Takeru to be 2-3 random almighty hits. Has Heaven's Bow + Gun Pierce because why the fuck not. Has Silent Prayer, and finally I got to see he has Concentrate but haven't seen a Concentrated CTE so far thankfully. Was able to get insight from on his behavior from experimentation, firstly you can't debuff him, instantly retaliates with CTE spam and will wipe your entire party that turn because Silent Prayer should've been Dekaja. Secondly, his behavior on Silent Prayer seems to be to first try it if you either hit +3 or maybe if you try to raise stats twice in a single turn.

All right, hope you all sleep well and good luck on your playthroughs because I'm heading to bed. Who knows how much or little respect I'm to give to the orange avacado come tomorrow.
Anonymous No.535531794 >>535531962 >>535537225
How much did I handicap myself. Any actual usage for AGI?
(first time playing)
Anonymous No.535531962 >>535537225
>>535531794
Anonymous No.535534980
>>535519496
II is genuinely not a good game. It has some bizarre gameplay moments, like fucking scavenger hunts and the "lol gotcha" wisdom check. But it's story is one of the best and most interesting which is why it gets the hype it does. It has a fun setting, lots of twists and turns and fun characters. There are also a lot of humanoid demons too that you can help. Demons aren't just set pieces like they were in I, they are trying to exist alongside human society peacefully and it even mellows out Lucifer because he wants to see a world like that. I just with the gameplay wasn't so shit, and the dungeons designs aren't much better. They are mediocre like in I.
Anonymous No.535536423 >>535536551
Nahobino fusion feels like sex btw
Anonymous No.535536551
>>535536423
fusing with Alice-chan...
Anonymous No.535536930 >>535537051 >>535542083
What's the best way of playing SMT1, 2 and If short of learning Japanese? Preferably not on phone, every fucking time I emulate those games on my phone something happens and they fucking die or get stolen
Anonymous No.535537016
Sex with Alice
Anonymous No.535537051 >>535537329
>>535536930
All those games have fan translations.
Anonymous No.535537225 >>535537409
>>535531794
>>535531962
>Equal Spread
What are you doing? Increasing Ag is glld, but you should choose either Ma or Dx for your main offensive skills with some Lu here and there
St is useless in IV
Anonymous No.535537329 >>535537436 >>535550676
>>535537051
Guess I'm fucked then, those games are cursed and I don't want to lose another phone
Anonymous No.535537409
>>535537225
>glld
I mean "good"
Anonymous No.535537436 >>535550676
>>535537329
Do you have any older console that can be homebrewed? You can put an emulator on it.
Anonymous No.535537492
>>535513758
I agree Meguro is 'better' but its not fair to bring in game quality into this since he was part of Atlus's golden years. Kozuka is their only talented employee left.
Anonymous No.535537750
>>535513758
Vengeance is widely agreed to be good.
You not agreeing with that is a different matter.
Anonymous No.535540485 >>535540969 >>535570125
I can't imagine playing any of these games (Persona included) without the online fusion calculator... except maybe V
How did oldfags manage back in the day?
Anonymous No.535540969
>>535540485
Just remembered x race + y race= z race
Anonymous No.535541530 >>535541806
dead thread
dead series
Anonymous No.535541806
>>535541530
dead franchise, /pg/ is no different now
Anonymous No.535542083
>>535536930
>SMT1
SNES, PS1, and GBA translations all have pros and cons. iOS version is the same as GBA version but good luck tracking down the hardware it will actually run on.

>SMT2 and SMT If...
SNES version is the only one translated currently
Anonymous No.535543068 >>535543335
Oni Jorou my beloved
Anonymous No.535543335
>>535543068
She can cast Zio on my balls, anytime
Anonymous No.535544173
>>535514594
Nope unless you use xmr; the banking system is designed to be able to trace every transaction.
Anonymous No.535546404
Anonymous No.535550676
>>535537329
>>535537436
dont you have a computer? :V
Anonymous No.535551217 >>535551469 >>535556969
what difficulty for smt iv and iva?
Anonymous No.535551469
>>535551217
You can't select Master in IV until NG+ so Prentice. War should be manageable in Apocalypse if you want more of a challenge.
Anonymous No.535551805
Anonymous No.535556762
yuriko nursing handjob
Anonymous No.535556889
lilith nursing snakejob
Anonymous No.535556969
>>535551217
even on a new game Master doesn't make the game harder.
Anonymous No.535557429
Zioqueen prostate massage
Anonymous No.535557805 >>535560926
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2288350/discussions/0/595156583817695595/
is it that bad?
Anonymous No.535560648
IP Gobbler
Anonymous No.535560863 >>535562219
Why is this so funny?
Anonymous No.535560926
>>535557805
yeah
Anonymous No.535562219
>>535560863
Because you're a psychopath
Anonymous No.535563380
Has anyone tried running SMTVX on android via joiplay? Does it work?
Anonymous No.535565072
>>535262356
nepeta
Anonymous No.535565504 >>535579334
Heroine futa
Anonymous No.535565568 >>535594305
>>535311597
It has the best core gameplay loop. SMT3 does not have the fun overworld and SMT5 does not have the compendium to match or hyper-fusion
Anonymous No.535568121 >>535568206 >>535569613 >>535569674 >>535575536 >>535582768
I finished SMT IV and I absolutely loved it, I thought of starting from the beginning with SMT I.
Does anyone have any tips or stuff like that? I wouldn't normally ask stuff like this but I'm a bit wary with older games. Though I will be playing the PS1 version.
Anonymous No.535568206
>>535568121
guns are overpowered as hell
Anonymous No.535569613
>>535568121
Guns are OP.
Anonymous No.535569674
>>535568121
goons are powerful
Anonymous No.535569847
>>535530393
Don't care, because even if I didn't ask I still want to hear about people experiencing these games. Fucking someone around here has to actually be playing a game to justify the general's existence. Do you want to end up like /pg/?
Anonymous No.535570125
>>535540485
I made whatever looked cool and didn't worry about specific fusions too much. If a found a demon I really wanted to make good, then I would work backwards in the fusion chain the old fashioned way to get there. The manuals for these games often had a rudimentary racial fusion chart as well.
Anonymous No.535572796
I heavily enjoy Kaneko's demon designs.
Anonymous No.535573905
>>535342520
SMT2 Limitless exists, but is JP only.
Anonymous No.535574537
>>535452797
only if she asked me to
Anonymous No.535574875
>>535483816
Jack Parsons refrence
Anonymous No.535574876 >>535578396 >>535583040
This guy carried

Ended up using him almost the entire game, the utility of Hassou Tobi guaranteed critical hits is just too useful for both bosses and regular enemies
Anonymous No.535575536
>>535568121
dont go into the game for gameplay, go in for story and adventure
Anonymous No.535578008
>>535515545
It DOES shit the bed in Paranoia. Especially in Gee with the 2 Pendragons and their batshit insane ranges taking potshots at you while being forced to move as slow as Molasses unless you got flying demons to hunt down and knock them off.
Anonymous No.535578396 >>535594130
>>535574876
You did not beated the game, sorry
Anonymous No.535579334
>>535565504
Anonymous No.535582768
>>535568121
have you tried guns
Anonymous No.535583040
>>535574876
this guy was so powerful in persona 4
Anonymous No.535589342
Bumpidyne
Anonymous No.535589492
>Co-Op Enhance W
OH FUCK YEAH. FUCK NEUTRAL DEMONS TIME FOR MY CHAOS BREATHERNS TO RISE
Anonymous No.535589525
>>535162090
remember to vote on the poll. it ends in a day.
Anonymous No.535592634 >>535593027
how do demons born?
Anonymous No.535593027
>>535592634
you see, when a human thought and magnetite love each other very much...
Anonymous No.535594130 >>535594739
>>535578396
>kaneko demon
He beat the game
Anonymous No.535594305
>>535565568
SJ has both with better balance and its where IV got 70% of its compendium from.
Anonymous No.535594691 >>535595421 >>535595578
>tfw when I'm playing other games with any form of combat element and monster enemies whatsoever I end up thinking "yeah this is cool but it would be better if I had an arm terminal and could barter with them and use them on my own team to fight with"
Anonymous No.535594739
>>535594130
Beelzebub and Avocado are Kaneko demons too alright, that doesn't exempt them from being OP
Anonymous No.535595421 >>535595592
>>535594691
Me every time I see something cool and want it shunted into SMT (give us devil shifters in a game atlus)
Anonymous No.535595578
>>535594691
me playing Digital Devil Saga
Anonymous No.535595592 >>535595896
>>535595421
DDS
Anonymous No.535595836 >>535596148 >>535601646
Is there any information about the design philosophy of Kaneko/Doi with an analysis of their art?
Anonymous No.535595896
>>535595592
Anonymous No.535596084
I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
Anonymous No.535596148 >>535596289 >>535596353
>>535595836
I wish Doi would be allowed to go into depth about his V designs.
Anonymous No.535596250 >>535598520
I want to fill Yuzuru's holes
Anonymous No.535596289 >>535596403
>>535596148
There seriously still isn't a V/VV artbook? Did Metaphor get one?
Anonymous No.535596353 >>535596546 >>535596598 >>535599781 >>535602390
>>535596148
We have a lot of kaneko art books for all the games he’s worked on but has there been anything discussing doi’s thoughts on the designs he’s done? maybe even for trauma center or something
Anonymous No.535596403 >>535596560
>>535596289
Metaphor got an artbook as a comprehensive documentary and a novel about development from beginning to end. SH2 even got concepts and interviews.
Anonymous No.535596546 >>535596806
>>535596353
There is for IV/IVA
Anonymous No.535596560 >>535596860
>>535596403
>64 pages
Bruh
Anonymous No.535596598 >>535596806
>>535596353
There is plenty on IV and IVA. For trauma center I don't know, I wasn't very big on those games.
Anonymous No.535596806
>>535596546
>>535596598
Yeah im stupid; I forgot about those games.
Anonymous No.535596860
>>535596560
that's a lot more than the 0 V has
Anonymous No.535598520
>>535596250
PM Koshimizu...
Anonymous No.535598707
We're not so different, you and I
Anonymous No.535599781 >>535601498
>>535596353
All I know is for base V he talked about some of the designs. Nothing in the artbooks.
Anonymous No.535601157 >>535601886
I still think they're the best main cast in any game we've had.
Anonymous No.535601190
My guess is since Atlus bet everything on Metaphor, there wasn't much they can do for V/VV outside of cheap limited time merchandise.
Anonymous No.535601498 >>535601747
>>535599781
The thing that's frustrating is that before he was told to shut up he clearly had a lot to say about all his designs and right before V came out he even said he was looking forward to talking more in depth about it later on. And now we're here where he's still saying "sorry spoilers" even about VV. I don't blame people for thinking this means VV isn't done because no other Atlus title ever had this kind of treatment.
Anonymous No.535601646 >>535601747
>>535595836
for Doi you can read the artbook of SMT IV, and there are also a bunch of his comments released via twitter and translated. you can find a bunch of translated stuff if you search these sites:
https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/
https://shmuplations.com/
but if you're looking for opinion pieces, this guy has written loads of them and since I think around 15 years ago:
https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/
also this guy's blog
https://eirikrjs.tumblr.com/
in particular for Doi, I think this is very well written. a bit too harsh but fair. it's in two parts.
https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2018/06/kcn-lvi-doi.html
Anonymous No.535601747 >>535602184 >>535603621 >>535604016
>>535601498
The same shit happened with P5 and Goro, but Soejima is allowed much more freedom. It's so weird he's not allowed to talk about it
>>535601646
Thank you so much.
Anonymous No.535601886 >>535602064 >>535604254
>>535601157
I honestly like the dynamic with the IS party more.
Anonymous No.535602064 >>535604254
>>535601886
same
Anonymous No.535602184
>>535601747
forgot to mention, if you know japanese, there are a number of scanned artbooks with comments from both artists online. and this nocturne documentary that I think anyone interested in atlus's design should watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl_6rN8UUvo
Anonymous No.535602390
>>535596353
Trauma team has an artbook I think you can find on e hentai
Anonymous No.535603223
>>535493757
if they can't milk it you're simply not getting translations and rereleases
Anonymous No.535603621 >>535604501
>>535601747
>The same shit happened with P5 and Goro
I thought there was plenty of dev materials on P5.
Anonymous No.535604016 >>535604501
>>535601747
soejima has talked about goro in an artbook.
or was there something he was holding off on saying?
Anonymous No.535604254
>>535601886
>>535602064
Yukino is cool, not having her join you even once is a shame, but honestly I just didn't care for Lisa and Eikichi. It feels like they have one good moment each (The concert for Lisa and Eikichi's confesion) and every other scene they have is the exact same repeated over and over again.
Anonymous No.535604501 >>535605150 >>535606495
>>535603621
>>535604016
From what I saw, many elements about Black Mask wasn't mentioned until Royal. I could be missunderstanding or missremembering.
Anonymous No.535605150 >>535610008
>>535604501
i don't think i've ever seen actual concept art of bm. i've seen the older designs like the cowboy and smiley face mask suit.
i assumed bm didn't have actual concept art and was a late design decision to fit with his codename being crow and to fit the restrained look better with the belts and striped outfit resembling a prison outfit.
loki's finished design does have actual concept art that shows soejima actually came up with it however.

has soejima ever said anything about not being allowed to talk about bm?
Anonymous No.535606495
>>535604501
Regardless if that's true or not, it's easy to see that Doi didn't talk about V post release because VV was being made. If it is true that just confirms that Atlus complains about spoilers whenever they have new content planned later.
Anonymous No.535607463 >>535607701 >>535607725 >>535608708 >>535609564 >>535617661
How'd this nigga die?
Anonymous No.535607701
>>535607463
that pig bit him
Anonymous No.535607725 >>535608818
>>535607463
The deals were truly to die for.
Anonymous No.535608708
>>535607463
cancer from eating too much bacon
Anonymous No.535608818
>>535607725
I hate that I chuckled
Anonymous No.535609564 >>535613504
>>535607463
pig
Anonymous No.535610008 >>535623024
>>535605150
I like the smiley face mask suit, it's too dark for what they want persona to be, but it's simple and nice. I don't think he said anything about spoilers too much or why.
Anonymous No.535613504 >>535626748
>>535609564
But enough about your mother
Anonymous No.535615570 >>535626381
Anonymous No.535617661
>>535607463
His name was Darwin Howard. He tried to the Reese's Puffs and forgot he can't breathe in here.
Anonymous No.535619746 >>535621978
Playing VV. Made it to the new map last night and got through a decent chunk of it. Did I accidently overlevel or something? I'm 49 and all the enemies are still 42 at most.
Anonymous No.535621978 >>535623126
>>535619746
For my curiosity, who's your navigator?
>Am I over-leveled?
You might be slightly over-leveled depending on where exactly you're at with the region, what's your current objective? Something to consider is you are playing SMTVV, while it does have level scaling its nowhere near as harsh as it was in vanilla SMTV. For an exact frame of reference, the final boss in the region's level 52.
Anonymous No.535623024
>>535610008
it's alright. it reminds me of the phantom shadows from p3/p4. i like the smiley face because it's like a representation of the fake smile goro showed others.
the loki design where he's holding a chain around goro's neck was great too but i get that it probably would've looked out of place with it coming out from his shadow and none of the other personas are summoned that way.
Anonymous No.535623126 >>535625639
>>535621978
>navigator
My nigga Pyro Jack.
>objective
Just met up with Yakumo and was told to go fuck with the angels to get the cherubim called away. Did everything in that area except talk to the angels.
I also took a break from the objective to clean up the big overworld demons from previous maps since I was able to handily defeat Mara.
Anonymous No.535625639
>>535623126
>Navigator
Okay, I used Ippon-Datara who specializes in ambushes which is part 1 in how I really over-leveled the area (part 2 was gospels because I wanted to fight/pick up Cleopatra, ended at 62 after using the 6 I saved up).
>Objective
You are a bit over-leveled but I can't remember where I was at that point of the region, should be nearing a bit into the half-way point once you get the Cherubim moved away. I also didn't handle the big overworld bosses that much (barring side quests) so I don't know how much exp they're giving you.
Anonymous No.535626381
>>535615570
I am obsessed with some of the ideas SMT showcases
Anonymous No.535626748 >>535662445
>>535613504
My mother got eaten by a demon, asshole
Anonymous No.535627620 >>535628756 >>535628954 >>535631851 >>535632123
What do they smell like, haha...
Anonymous No.535628756
>>535627620
Marshmallows.
Anonymous No.535628954
>>535627620
Prayer candles.
Anonymous No.535631851
>>535627620
YHVH's smegma
Anonymous No.535632123
>>535627620
I dunno but it was enough for Dazai to.... well... you know.
Anonymous No.535633673 >>535636878
whats his alignment
Anonymous No.535634845
>>535162090
Finished 4 Law, had a good time but the final boss is easy if you have ranga. It was a good time and next time I play I'll fiend hunt if I have the patience
>funniest moment?
isabaeu being on clean for reading manga
>unpopular opinions?
I guess the game should've been longer in the sense that lucifer and merkbah should've made you naturally level 90 ish. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a popular opinion
>did you like the references to the past games?
Yeah besides the SJ ones I don't think the other references were in your face
>how would you describe smt 4?
The best in the series over all, gameplay is 4A
>favorite aspect of smt 4?
Sheer amount of demons and general ease of recruiting demons + moveset flexibility. Let's you fusion autism alot
Anonymous No.535636878 >>535637014
>>535633673
if we're going by Kingdom Hearts lore, he's Law aligned, probably and probably also Light (heh)
Anonymous No.535637014 >>535637393
>>535636878
chat is this real?
Anonymous No.535637393
>>535637014
absolutely
Anonymous No.535638108
AAAAAAAAARGH PERSONAAAAAAA!!!!
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.
.
oops... wrong thread.
Anonymous No.535639023 >>535640403 >>535683560
>Rematch Against Masakados' Bellybutton
After some more trial-and-error I employed Uriel with Phys pierce and beat it first try. The most surprising thing was that he didn't spam CTE. Can't explain why besides maybe almighty sets off CTE too? In the process I learned you can't crit with Almighty Rounds. No in-battle dialogue from Stephen or Burroughs beyond the time limit while Masakado's last words were of deceit. It wasn't "hope" that made him see sense, it was spite and two other DLCs getting involved.
>Purgatorium
The color scheme isn't bad except for making random encounters invisible, especially when the camera cranes to the sky due to climbing stairs. For dungeons in IV it's maybe the closest to "Good" I can offer, warp maze that sometimes inverts controls, yay? Kazfiel only got 1 round in but hey, double Tarukaja into Maziodyne could've made him respectable to a less stacked stock. Seraph, even if debuffed to hell so it couldn't deal damage, did have a cool mechanic with Light Wall. Maybe just separate it to various walls to better communicate its the element you're supposed to break instead of what Seraph resists as I first thought, could be an autism thing and not a mechanic's readability. Aniel was notable in having Occult Flash (native to only Masakado) with Dekaja but a shame he didn't have a 2nd attack in case of the Tetrakarn I had in my back pocket. Bosses weren't terrible but surprised none of them had almighty while the random encounters did.
>Lucifer
Nice to know Walter's a good influence on ya morning star.
(1/2)

Finished as Chaos and these two are the last of my playthrough updates, typing more complete thoughts of the game as a whole.
>tl;dr
IV's a bit worse than I remembered, don't have it in me to do another run (let alone 100% compendium, fucking fiends), but was still really fun to playthrough and I far from regret it.
Anonymous No.535640403 >>535645997
>>535639023
>Merkabah (1st fight)
Its strange for the final boss to not have any resistances, no weaknesses is par of the course for IV demons but neutral damage to all elements? Phase 1 did admittedly not last long as I tried to be fun. For Purgatorium I wanted to use all my "MC demons" throughout, and for the Merkabah I had a team for each phase. This is all to say I lead with my Dark Energy + Charge Sanat who's Deadly Fury did over 7k damage in a single hit, for reference phase 1 has 6k HP. This is the reason why different charges don't stack in SMTV. Phase 2 lasted longer because Wukong only has Charge and ate a hexagram before it use it up, Lilith covered by a concentrated Glacial Blast doing 4k damage. From this I don't inherently mind, almighty spam but debuffs instead of ailments could work, not a fan of the insta-kill attack. The almighty could be scary considering Shalt Not Resist is a Rakunda per hit, just wish it had a way to handle attack buffs. Maybe it could've had a heavy single target skill that double tarundas instead of the insta-kill.
>Merkabah (Curiosity rematches)
Might not have Dekunda which is a choice to have nothing for debuffs or not be proactive in taking them off? Confirm that in-battle dialogue can be skipped if you do too much damage and the options lean dark-chaos here baring very liberal interpretations of "for myself" if you get Merkabah phase 1 to near death.
>Chaos End
I do like you do get to say hi to the kingdom one last time. And IV's chaos seems to be right up there with SJ in one of the darkest takes but Hikaru's dialogue makes me confused. It's trying to play into it being a grimdark ending, maybe even a bad-end, whilst also playing to the idealism the route was on. Hikaru has problems keeping it in her pants when talking about humanity killing each other when not even 5 minutes ago yapping about a world for those to be truly alive. What's supposed to be my takeaway here?
(2/2)
Anonymous No.535643749
>>535182395
>draws 900 pictures of Tomoko from Soul Hackers in your path
Anonymous No.535644270 >>535644706 >>535653356 >>535653405
Any tips against Mem Aleph? Damn I only have her on the first part and my demons can't do fucking shit against her. I'm doing maybe 150 damage a round but then she randomly heal back like 600 and if I don't buff my demons can't hit her.
I'm playing on hard.
Anonymous No.535644706 >>535652204
>>535644270
if all else fails, grind to get Shiva and a gun that can use Moan Bullet (Almighty skill) like Ebony Tear (the other is Chaos only I think). Level makes a fair bit of a difference too.
Anonymous No.535645997
>>535640403
>Hikaru has problems keeping it in her pants when talking about humanity killing each other when not even 5 minutes ago yapping about a world for those to be truly alive. What's supposed to be my takeaway here?
that lucifier is a horny little bitch liar?
Anonymous No.535652204 >>535653481 >>535675001 >>535690804
>>535644706
You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.
You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.
It's sad you don't know the difference.
Anonymous No.535653356 >>535653481
>>535644270
What level are you? I beat her at 78 recently, but I also purpose-built a demon to rock her shit, so your mileage may vary.
Anonymous No.535653405
>>535644270
>SJ tips
Firstly stats are huge (Vitality/Dex/Magic/Str respectively) and iirc there is level scaling. Secondly looking back she seems to Silent Prayer at 2 buffs/debuffs (+1/-1 or something around there), this is also going off SJR and not SJ vanilla. The two could have different mechanics at play here but try to take note when she procs Silent Prayer after Debilitates/Luster Candies and go one before it. The AI usually uses those type of skills at strict situations. Can see this with Vishnu Flynn for a IVA situation where he usually waits 3 turns (maybe 2) to Dekaja/Dekunda if you only have buffs/debuffs active, if you have both active he'll immediately Dekaja and Dekunda.
Anonymous No.535653481
>>535653356
well this was me: >>535652204
ngl pretty easy, just keep chucking chakara pots and unga bunga antichthon and moan bullets
Anonymous No.535655251 >>535655784 >>535657904
Now this is a proper representation of VV's legacy:
https://x.com/nemkok/status/1949208867679633815
Anonymous No.535655784 >>535657014
>>535655251
the joke is gay sex
Anonymous No.535657014
>>535655784
But that's all straight sex???
Anonymous No.535657650 >>535657968 >>535660590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyYPVj2rn9o
Anonymous No.535657904
>>535655251
Sex with Amane >>>>> Sex with Tao/Yoko
Anonymous No.535657968
>>535657650
Gay.
Anonymous No.535658315 >>535658713
what SMT game has pissed on Kaneko's grave the most?
Anonymous No.535658713
>>535658315
Kaneko dug and then pissed on his own grave.
Anonymous No.535659019 >>535659409
it's not gay if balls don't touch
Anonymous No.535659409
>>535659019
Homo.
Anonymous No.535660590
>>535657650
lol nice
Anonymous No.535662445
>>535626748
try not to feel too bad
Anonymous No.535665282 >>535671424 >>535671739 >>535693239
Remember what they took from you.
Anonymous No.535665637 >>535671149
>>535156460
As a fan of SMT, I would say most/all of them. MegaTen in general is kinda a trashy series. It's just that it's trashy in a way I find fun and enjoyable, and that extended to everything in the series up until I would probably say around Nocturne/Persona 3 and the overall shift in direction the series had, and even then I wouldn't say it was anything more than unique "indie"-esque status up until Persona 5/SMT V hit the scene. Possibly a little earlier with SMT IV/Persona 4 Golden since that's where I think the series started to catch mainstream attention from all the clout of Nocturne/P3FES/P4 Vanilla.
Anonymous No.535670819 >>535671732
>Beat V years ago
>Just remembered I never beat shiva because I didn't to grind for it
Damn... he's in VV right? I do plan to play VV at some point
Anonymous No.535671041
>>535156460
Yes, but only the chaosfag games
Anonymous No.535671149
>>535665637
NTA but I kind of agree
Anonymous No.535671424
>>535665282
don't remind me
Anonymous No.535671732 >>535671959
>>535670819
He's in VV as well and is on the easier end for super bosses within the game.
Anonymous No.535671739
>>535665282
>she will never by ur homeslice...
Anonymous No.535671959 >>535672336 >>535674196
>>535671732
As in he's easier than in V or VV has even harder super bosses? If it's the latter I guess it wouldn't hurt to get the grind DLC and only activate it after beating the main game
Anonymous No.535672336 >>535672810
>>535671959
Both he's easier in V and also that there's harder super bosses (that isn't Demi-Fiend, VV has vanilla V DLC baseline).
Anonymous No.535672810
>>535672336
I guess that balances out, thanks. I'll borrow VV for Switch from a friend to play on bed and see if V save data unlocks anything
Anonymous No.535672821 >>535672923 >>535673029 >>535675269
Speaking of Shiva, was there any better grinding spot than those big chinese centaur guys in the sky temple dungeon? That's what I used and it took a long time...
Anonymous No.535672923 >>535673029
>>535672821
Talking about original V btw
Anonymous No.535673029
>>535672923
>>535672821
You could get mitamas to spawn without DLC if you knew (or looked up, as I did) where to find them
Anonymous No.535674196 >>535679635
>>535671959
He's easier in VV because they reduced the impact of level scaling.
Anonymous No.535675001
>>535652204
Anonymous No.535675269
>>535672821
Tip because that's what I did on my V playthrough, use Amanozako for grinding. Thunder Reign not only lets her have a hard hit on Chi Yous but also her magatsuhi skill (Bounty) will heavily expedite the grinding. Mitamas also work though I only know of one Gospel mitama location in Taito that has a decent respawn time. Something to consider is hoarding money and making sure you have Grimoires too. Finally sutras are a bitch to grind but really important (the Egypt branch bridge is best sutra grinding spot I believe).
Anonymous No.535679635
>>535674196
thank god for that
Anonymous No.535683560 >>535683845 >>535702827
>>535639023
Christ. I forgot how fucking bad this design was.
At least 4A kinda fixed it.
Anonymous No.535683845
>>535683560
Anonymous No.535689890 >>535694741
Yeah Alex in Redux just makes no sense. She's probably the worst re-release girl (haven't done Full Body yet). Not because I hate her character but she's just so haphazardly thrown into SJ and desu there's more questions then answers in what she brings up. Can Atlus hire better surgeons to add content in the game without it just being like an addon like the Sega CD and 32X?


Retconing Law to have "half the people" be immune is dumb. Her going back in Neutral is stupid too because like bitch you should be helping us not fucking killing me off asap. Her being Louisa daughter adds nothing.
Anonymous No.535690804
>>535652204
ok
Anonymous No.535693239 >>535693690
>>535665282
I miss her.
Anonymous No.535693690 >>535693979
>>535693239
She died in IV and a horrible skinwalker impersonated her throughout IVA
Anonymous No.535693979 >>535694213
>>535693690
don't go bananacakes homeslice, she's the same Nozomi you always knew
Anonymous No.535694213
>>535693979
She isn't and that's why it's morally ok to give her the massacre treatment along with the rest of the retard crew
Anonymous No.535694741 >>535695820
>>535689890
They just wanted Doom guy to fuck Louisa.
Anonymous No.535695820
>>535694741
It was unironically a Kingdom Hearts reference
Anonymous No.535697918 >>535698134 >>535698658 >>535698926
EWWWW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY NEKOMATA
Anonymous No.535698134 >>535698946
>>535697918
I hate that as well. Nekomata is cute but I'm no Senri fucker
Anonymous No.535698658 >>535698946
>>535697918
Hmmm, delicious hag.
Anonymous No.535698926
>>535697918
>it ain't gonna lick itself
Anonymous No.535698946
>>535698134
Not Dazai approved

>>535698658
Dazai approved poster
Anonymous No.535699530
ngl she was kinda a bitch until I baited her to law torah.
Anonymous No.535699986
This is 'strangely' fitting considering what I named doomguy. Didn't think about it too much until the ending lol.

Some story thoughts.
How the fuck does new neutral even work? Sorry I've finished this after an all-nighter but
>Arthur stays behind to blow himself up
>Except not really and he stays with (you) to beat the shit of the expanse everytime it pops up
>Nothing really changes between this and old neutral except you decide to stay behind to beat the shit outta the expanse which also feels like getting to new neutral kinda iffy. this feels more like an alternate ending then a "bonus ending".
>How the heck can you live eternally to beat the shit of the expanse? I assume you're still human but the ending is the seventh iteration? How long does it take between the conceptions? Like what, the conception gets kicked down the road for a week so like every week you just have to beat the everloving shit out of it?

I must be missing something since this feels kinda lame compared to old neutral and old neutral was meh. I mean it's metal as fuck but it just feels like the pieces aren't there to solidify new neutral.
Anonymous No.535702827
>>535683560
It's in my top 3 lucifer designs. The chair version is shit.
Anonymous No.535704164
I want to fuck Amane
Anonymous No.535705521
Rondé
Anonymous No.535706501 >>535706897 >>535706930 >>535711342
holy fucking shit why is 3ds emulation so fucking autistic?
Anonymous No.535706897 >>535707458
>>535706501
just wait for the ports getting announced in gamescom in a few days
Anonymous No.535706930 >>535707458
>>535706501
everybody has a 3DS
Anonymous No.535707458
>>535706930
>>535706897
>oh no we're going to offer you two versions of the roms. one is encrypted one isn't. you can't play the encrypted ones make sure you download the decrypted ones
>oh you want updates? okay you're going to have to find them oh there's only encrypted updates online, better run them through someone's bat file that you downloaded online so you can decrypt them and then you have to install them through the emulator
like jesus christ man is it nintendo magic or people just being autistic about this shit?
Anonymous No.535710128
Give us oblivion.
Anonymous No.535710370
The White were right.
Anonymous No.535711342
>>535706501
Either get a handheld device to emulate it without citra's android shit or use a PC
Anonymous No.535711772 >>535711827 >>535711859
Someone bake the thread before I make one with Asahi as the main image
Anonymous No.535711827
>>535711772
do it faggot
Anonymous No.535711859
>>535711772
don't do it faggot