Thread 535130891

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/sthg/ #8537 - I don't like Jet's voice :( Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Crosstalk 4 | Tails, Knuckles, & Rouge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXuyFB29IvQ [Open]
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hacks
https://youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaser
https://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

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>>535130952
WTF… HE KNEELS…

>>535130891 (OP)
Kinda wanna goon what sonic character should i goon to

I don't like when fictional characters call their enemies villains

>>535130952
OOC. The WIND would never. Acting like a teenager implies that he is a teenager. Ages are not canon, and neither is The Wind getting bored. He would just ditch this party and go do something else.

>>535131309
Oh my GOD shut up

Good evenin' or night

>>535131309
Oh my GOD keep talking

>>535131261
To add on i think im in a spot where ive gooned to all the good stuff of all the good characters that exist. Like theres nothing left but old goons

>>535131261
That one Marine where she's self conscious cause her boobs grew way too big.
Or that fan design of Marine's mom, that's a pretty good one.

>>535131379
Why? Because I care about Sonic being written in-character? He's the Wind, and westerners simply don't understand that.

there are no windfags, only shitposters trying to make you mad

>>535130952
>>535131309
This fucking this. Sonic The Hedgehog would never go to the big gay party, idk about Tails though

Only /sthg/ can help rebuild... the mansion: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/sthgmansion

>>535131841
Since when would sonic not go to a party? He went to the soleanna festival

>Shadow being at a party
>ever
OOC. Even in IDW it is firmly established that Shadow refuses to go to parties. Ian Flynn is such a hack and doesn't understand Shadow's character.

>>535130952
WINDFAGS CAN BE KILLED!!
>>535131309
Oh wait, nevermind.

I like the movies specifically because they piss off windfags

>>535131384
It is after 7 PM for me

>>535132449
Windfags don't hate the movies.

>>535132564
Speak for yourself. Movie Sonic is NOT the Wind. The movies are Americunt burger slop.

>>535132449
The movies where
>Sonic is the only character with no arc
>Sonic's will is imposed on every other character, including Shadow and Knuckles
>Every named character would die for Sonic

>>535130952
I don't care if you like something Random, you're still a weirdo that will possibly kill someone.

>>535132161
Issue is written by Evan, anon. Not to mention, he's there for the emeralds, not for the party.

>>535132878
I meant to reply to >>535132650

Windfags like whatever they feel like. They can't be influenced or deterred by outside influence because their feelings blow like the wind. They cannot be pinned down, nor coerced because the concept of freedom is far more important than your opinion.

1) I don't recognize the ones on the left and right.
2) Surprised they're allowed to have any focus on Rouge at all considering their Hollywood buddy hates her so much.

>>535132957
his arc was him bonding with Tom. and then sharing those ideals with Knuckles and Shadow

Iizuka wanted to give Sonic, Tails and Knuckles a third of the game to make it balanced, rather than giving Sonic 10 stages, Tails 5 stages (lazily using same stages as Sonic), and Knuckles 5 stages ala SA1.

>City Escape
Sonic
>Wild Canyon
Knuckles
>Prison Lane
Tails
>Metal Harbor
Sonic
>Green Forest
Sonic
>Pumpkin Hill
Sonic
>Mission Street
Tails
>Aquatic Mine
Knuckles
>Sky Rail (later given to Shadow)
Sonic
>Hidden Base
Tails
>Pyramid Cave
Sonic
>Death Chamber
Knuckles
>Eternal Engine
Tails
>Meteor Herd
Knuckles
>Crazy Gadget
Sonic
>Final Rush
Sonic

Funnily enough Shadow only got 4 stages and 2 of those were reskins of Sonic's stages

I found out today Game Banana removed the low cut dress mod for Amy in SA1.
That's not even a porn mod or anything, the dress just exposed her shoulders.

>>535132161
>Shadow hanging out on a floating rock

>>535132965
>Issue is written by Evan, anon. Not to mention, he's there for the emeralds, not for the party.
Irrelevant. Parties clash with his style, and he would never go, even for the sake of the mission.

>>535133229
Bait

>>535133229
He just said he's there for the emeralds, not for the party.

>>535133371
How is it bait? And why is he with Rouge? Ian trying to get away with Team Dark friendship shit again.

>>535132957
He literally has an arc in all 3 movies

The ACTUAL Sonic Team Cultists have arrived.

Why does no one complain about how Evan writes Tails?

Looking at the Japanese general they’re complaining that too many uncool people are picked as ambassadors for the brand
Egoraptor (who is known there as the guy who made that bad Zelda video) Fadel (who is known as a liar for the sake of positivity) Natewantstobattle (who they remember for his insane divorce)
These are considered the American brand ambassadors to Japan
Korone and Aoi Yuki are considered the Japanese ambassadors but even then those two are barely involved these days.
Yuki doesn’t even voice a character in Sonic anymore.

>>535133472
Then why doesn't he just smash the place up and take the emeralds? Why this covert ops bullshit?

Douge

>>535133671
>Then why doesn't he just smash the place up and take the emeralds?
Because that's obviously OOC for Shadow, too. He's not a generic edgelord like you want to see him as.

>>535133664
>Nate and his divorce

And that's a problem...why?

>>535133664
Reminder Nate got a divorce from her because he thought she was holding his career back, now he takes his failed career out on us by performing the worst songs in the Sonic series

>>535133872
It's OOC for him to go to the party and do undercover shit. So I guess him being in this story at all is bullshit. Fuck this comic.

>>535133909
they just call him a retard because his ex is hot and she’s a bigger celebrity than him now
apparently she was too “feisty” and “constantly wanted to be intimate”

>Ashleigh Ball is a popular fancast for Tangle
Is it not common knowledge that that's already Nine's voice

>>535133802
>Sonic is not coky
>Source: My ass

The fact he is reviving an old Twitter hot take just points how out of touch that psycho is.

>>535133872
Fuck off

>>535133992
>thought being married to Christina Vee was holding him back
... I bet this guy is a windfag. That would track.

>>535130952
>>535133802
Stop posting this retard

>>535134142
>apparently she was too “feisty” and “constantly wanted to be intimate”
If that doesn't tell you he's a closet faggot, I don't know what does.

Sonic "fans" are unable to be pleased
Ian and Evan should just steamroll ahead and fuck everybody else

>>535134084
>

Go take a shower.

>>535134142
Oh, so another nothing-drama. Of course.

>>535134347
They'd have to follow the wind to have that kind of mindset.

>>535134142
>>535134142
>too “feisty” and “constantly wanted to be intimate”
>Ugh. Why does my hot wife keep wanting to fuck? So annoying!

>>535134142
>too “feisty”

Nate is definitely the worst singer the franchise has, granted whoever is doing the Crossworld theme might tie for worst with him. Even Almost Dead is better than it.

Today was a very bad and stressful day sthg. I'm glad it's over.

>>535134169
That is not why they want her as Tangle

>>535134574
Ok, let's be realistic. No man would actually be able to handle Sally's needs long term. I don't care how horny you are, she will run you out of cum.

>>535134347
People love The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog and Blade of Courage more than IDW.

>>535134730
That's why she constantly seeks out help from the public.

>>535134684
When people tell you that he's a self taught youtube singer who got popular through pokemon parodies... you can tell...

>>535133992
The fact Nate almost had Cristina Vee on lock and then threw that out the window for the sake of his YouTube channel and mediocre amateur music career (which he later retired from) is fucking hilarious.

Reminder that Sally was 15 for the majority of the comic. Puberty must've hit her like a truck.

Would you still fuck her?

>>535134825
IDWfags are unable to accept that their writers suck.

>>535134717
Smile, warrior. You have earned your rest. Prepare for tomorrow, which may be worse, but it won't be for long.

>>535134993
Blobians age differently.

>>535134730
No -man-, certainly.

>>535134936
Literally makes him perfect for Sonic

>>535131841
>Reaction pic is from one of the least windy sonics imaginable

>>535134825
Murder of Sonic’s positive reception is even funnier because it was entirely written by American social media managers and is somehow still not as boring or forced as IDW.

IT'S HIM! KILL HIM!

>>535134347
They are hard to please, but if you put a third party, they may be more lenient on it. Ian Munchler, despite the Jet's story, is well liked, and so is Daniel Barnes; Toyoda and the Manga upstar are liked well enough.

Usually people are very overfocused on the negative they are predisposed to be negative, no matter what you do. Don't appeal to these people, it's a pointless quest.

>>535135084
>Sallycole
Barf

I don't think I'm going to be able to smile for a while Zavokchad.

ic

>>535135217
who?

>>535135167
How did we let them steal aura from one of the few good games

>>535135217
>RandomFox is a "OOC guy"

Of course he is.

I'm just glad the Metal Gear community will not entertain him.

>>535134142
>she was too “feisty” and “constantly wanted to be intimate”
Bro is truly windpilled because that sounds like Amy

No more random twitter whos
from now on, we talk about good researched posts that are correct.

>>535134142
Wait so Japs don’t like the Wind???

>>535135598
>admits to being an unpleasable cunt
Okay, so why should I pretend to care about this asshole? I mean aside form the fact you idiots keep spamming this shit?

>>535135598
>Guy who doesn't mind the characterization of the games, which tend to be midly inconsistent, is whinning about how OOC the adaptations are

Random is just a joke. He sounds like he cares about the brand but is just looking for attention by being a walking contradiction.

And I mean, despite his "thousands" of followers on twitter, guy barely got any attention.

And we shouldn't give him to begin with.

>>535135609
>mobian
Stopped reading there.

>>535135302
All Sally ships are ic. She would fuck anything, even you.

>>535135853
heretic.

>>535135692
Literally nobody but Sega and their bootlickers like the wind. I promise you, sane, normal people don't even know about it, and would immediately call it out for the psychotic nonsense that it is.

>>535135609
...is that why they're like that?

Krack may be the ultimate cunt in this community, but at least I know her interest in Shadow is geniune. Sonic tho? Pfft, farce, all she cares is about the black rat.

Random is just so much of a walking contradiction and wannabe influencer that just makes one's head hurts. He doesn't care about Sonic, he just pretends to by being the biggest asshole around. And being a vorefag too.

God knows I needed to know this asshole also likes Sand Land like me...fuck him.

>>535135609
This is canon.

Give it to me straight. Does the 90s~2000s era Sonic do jokes or quips? Or is that not his thing?

>>535135692
I assure you people who like Sonic just think he's neat, and the appeal of him ultimately relies on nostalgia of the playerbase.

That's the same with Dragon Ball. You can keep going on and on about these larger than life concepts, but ultimately people just like the simpler premises and the entertaining games.

Japan for anyone who cares doesn’t talk much about the types of Sonic
They didn’t see the movies at all so thunder Sonic isn’t something they bring up at all
In terms of character they argue about his theme song with most arguing the theme determines what kinda Sonic you’re getting
It doesn’t matter - laid back, confident hero, friendly Sonic
His world - strong, determined hero, more serious
Reach for the stars - hopeful, cocky heroics, more caring Sonic

>>535136208
He's right on the B part, I must admit. Amy respecting Blaze's boundaries but not Sonic's sounds like some sort of weird gynocentric bias.

>>535136191
Yes. But it's so rare that multiple 2000s games do not have Sonic tell a single joke. On top of that 2000s Sonic is not funny or really clever at humor. When he tries to do something he thinks is funny it just makes other characters stare confused.

The 2010s didn't actually change it that much. He started telling jokes but the other characters still don't think he's funny.

>>535136208
Ian just makes up quirks.
Like Sonic's gay nick naming, that the most annoying person of a friend group does.
>"HEY AMES!!!"
Someone who's suppose to be cool should never be that insufferable.

>>535136208
>Blaze is not a hugger, where is the evidence she is not?!

...Her aloof personality? She doesn't mind hugs in moderation.

Shadow is not a hugger either and we don't need evidence to know that.

>>535136395
Amy thinks she has a realistic chance at getting in Blaze's panties, so she's being respectful.

Nothing wrong with Amy wanting to rape Sonic against his will

>>535136403
>Other characters don’t laugh at Sonic’s jokes
How dare they blaspheme THE WIND…

>>535136395
Amy just adores Sonic that much that when she sees him, she forgets all the usual boundaries and just goes for him

>>535136454
>The writer just writes up personalities

Hm, yes, the floor here is made of floor.

>>535136530
TRVTHNVKE

It’s small moments like this that I love

>>535135656
Reply to me next time fucking dork

>>535136834
This is just the extreme autism of the localization discourse, only he made it about Sonic with the "No true Scottman" fallacy.

What is his damage? What does he think he gains by being such a bootlicker of the games (even bad ones)?

This wind crap always remind me how lucky I am to have Rouge as my fav. Ain't nobody trying to force pretentious bullshit with her. She's just a thief with a heart of gold who likes her shiny rocks. She is immune to the autistic bullshit.

>>535136564
OOC. If Sally was that close to his face she'd start kissing him really hard and he'd have to pry her off like a facehugger because her smoochmuscles are strong and his are weak.

>>535136997
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations

>>535136997
This might be the hottest piece if cuck fan art..

>>535137020
Except for the fact that they want to cut off her tits

>>535136651
Cool characters shouldn't be written by dudes that live on social media that look like living bean bag chairs. They don't have the right experience to tackle it.

>>535135265
Sonic fans are easily pleased though. Flynn and Stanley do not want to write something like the games.

autism

>>535136834
There's nothing wrong with this post in the slightest.
>>535136958
Which games?

Ian and Evan do write Sonic extremely inconsistent with the games. But it's hard to discuss this anymore because the people fighting the hardest against mischaracterization are insane.

>>535137154
The real Team Sonic is just Sonic and Tails

>>535137095
By the same token, Sonic shouldn't be written by anyone then.

Should he be written by the god of the winds? Because that guy is not available.

>>535137072
Her tits are still the same size, the heart just covers them more. Yes, it's stupid, but you still really need to chill. Acting like the entitled incel the censors think they're fighting isn't helping.

There's no proof that Shadow and Maria regularly experimented when Gerald wasn't around, but there's also no proof that they didn't. Checkmate atheists.

>>535137240
The biggest problem is that they want to write Archie.

You would get much closer to canon Sonic if you forced them to write more game plots. Notice how IDW classic Sonic is more consistent with quality.

>>535137282
He should be written by someone who can leave their house without the need of a forklift.

>>535137276
This

>>535137020
Yeah and then you got her tits cut off you dumb fucking retard, seriously I don't get it why are you gay niggas so against character being portrayed in faithful vision of the creator like what you're trying to say?

>>535137216
RandomFox thinks Sonic Forces, Free Riders, and Lost World are good games and people who hate Infinite "just hate Sonic" or some crap like that.

He made a very cringy roleplay in the Free Riders post, grabbing the reader by the shoulders and telling him "THIS IS SONIC, THIS IS SONIC, THIS IS SONIC!"

This is why none of the arguments he ever give are geniune if he has such contradictory standards.

>>535137276
Why did you add Tails?

>>535137020
Her and the Chaotix are the hardest characters to fuck up.

>>535137284
You're not a real Rouge fan.

>>535135192
I'm going to use "Monkey Destruction Switch" on him

>>535137380
So Daniel, then. If we are going to fat-shame Flynn, then you want Daniel.


Or he doesn't count because he is a nigger?

>>535137526
But those are different posts.
Are you doing that gay,
>if you agree with someone on something, then you must agree with everything they say

>>535137663
>I lost the argument, if I switch to baiting I can pretend I didn't get owned

>>535137526
He considers Sonic Chronicles to be acceptable canon because it is a Sonic game with Sonic Team oversight.
He considers Cosmo a disgusting OC because she debuted outside of the games.

>>535137669
Anon, this is Random's shit. He praises all the games, to the point I'm doubting he ever played any of them.

I heard more sincerity from Pariah, and Random shitted on him when Pariah spoke baddly of Colors.

>>535137550
Turns out having well-defined characterization from the jump helps a lot.

>>535137534
Sonic would hate you for writing off his best bud like that

>>535137910
Tails has been rewritten so much in the last 5 years, he's no longer Sonic's buddy with a strong potential. Tails is just Sonic's uber now.

>>535137848
Anon, I swear, I know enough about Random and his nonsense, I don't want to be reminded of him.

He is a creepy weirdo and a unironic consoomer who seemingly wants all Sonic games to be praised as a weird white knight, and hates other fans for not being as autistic as him.

>>535137550
This is my scale of the hardest to easiest characterizations to fuck up.
Vector, Espio and Charmy
Rouge
Omega
Big
Cream
Knuckles
Blaze
Tails
Amy
Shadow
Sonic
Silver

I think it's bad to intentionally make up character traits in filler material because you end up with shit like jpn Sonic repeatedly saying that Eggman will never change which totally shits on IDW's central discussion.

>"Flynn and Stanley suck, get rid of them!"
>"Pontac and Graff suck, get rid of them!"
>"[insert other writer here] sucks, get rid of them!"

>>535138083
Not in the films and the blade of courage

>>535138083
I don’t care about shit writers fucking up

Eggman makes me unreasonably horny

OHHHH NOOOOOOOO AHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Shoot AOSTH fags
Burn SATAM fags
Skin Archie fags
Throw acid at Fleetway fags
Stomp Underground fags heads
Drown Boom fags
Eviscerate Prime fags
Cut in half vertically (starting at the crotch) IDW fags
Impale anally Movie fags and letting them rot

>>535138176
Maybe they should start hiring good writers.
When you hire from a group of people that all know each other and act like each other, they're probably going to give similar results.

>>535138176
The beatings will continue until they find someone COMPETENT first, and "cheap" second.

>>535138307
Platypus hands wrote this

>>535138176
A mutual of mine said "If Flynn retired and Barnes started to write, you people will turn on him too."

Honestly it's tiresome. Oh, and "Toyoda for Sonic?" He wrote Infinite, therefore he is trash.

Y'know, it was kinda weird at first to realize that the most consistently good Sonic character is Rouge the Bat of all people. But here we are.

imagine if there were people who thought the powerpuff girls being sugar, spice, and everything nice was up for debate. that's what it's like dealing with people who are "tired of the wind crap"

>>535138176
FAFO

>>535138147
Why are all the hedgehogs so easy to fuck up?

>>535138363
Does anyone other than shills even like P5?
As a P5 hater, I'll admit. The OST and ambiance is good.
...that's it.

>>535138527
Those are attributes, that’s not characterization.

>>535138389
>Let's hire a group not familiar with the franchise
We got Sonic Prime out of that.

You people make it sound as if "good writers" are easy and cheap to find.

Hell, when IDW started Flynn was an option. We could have gotten someone else.

>>535138421
I would never torture Eggman, I'd rather be compared to Stone

>>535138176
I will give him credit for being more creative than them.

>>535138439
Name something good Barnes wrote.
Give us a reason why you hold him in high regard.
Put your fucking money where your mouth is.

>>535138545
Three of them represent Ian's childhood bullies

>>535138439
>Oh, and "Toyoda for Sonic?" He wrote Infinite, therefore he is trash.
Honestly, it's shit like shrugging off six month of torture and Operation Big Wave that gets me.

>>535138587
THE WIND IS AN ATTRIBUTE AND CHARACTERIZATION

>>535138669
>We got Sonic Prime out of that.
Second most successful branch of the franchise.
Also better written than Frontiers and IDW.

>Films
Most successful aspect of the franchise.

>>535138527
They're tired of it because the discussion is incredibly autistic and presented in a way that makes Sonic come off as an idea rather than a character.

>>535138669
>>535138389
>"Let's hire a group of people unfamiliar with the series"
>See: Archie Sonic the Hedgehog #1-#159

>>535138669
If you're having trouble finding good writers, that's incompetency across the board in all departments.

>>535138752
anyone have the pic in this

Frankly, I only like Maekawa's interpretation of Princess Sally. The Americans don't truly "get" her.

>>535138527
The Utonium sisters are actually good characters who have personality traits, quirks, and interests outside of one word concepts. That's the problem with Sonic, he's "The Wind"... and nothing else.

>>535138773
It’s the base. There has to be something on top of the base. “Sonic is like the wind” is a description. *Who* is he?

>>535138439
What do you mean "turn on him"? This place complains about Barnes too.

>>535138810
>Also better written than Frontiers and IDW.
I didn't spend two years of whinning about Sonic's characterization and "Mickey Mouse" jokes for you to attempt to gaslight me.

Piss off.

AAR should write for Sonic.

>>535138845
>>535138669
Hey,
>snaps in your face to get your attention
Autismos, never said hire a group not familiar with the franchise. Said start hiring from a different group of people then the rat king nest of npcs they keep pulling from.

I need me a fat werewife

>>535138752
Why can't more boyposters be as based as this Faganon from 2022?

>>535138924
>Maekawa’s interpretation of Princess Sally
And that would be?

>>535138942
>>535138940
Great. So you DO hate Sonic. We're off to a good start.

Amy can rape.
Sonic cannot rape.

>>535138887
Sonic being a turboslut is OOC. Damn shame, because at least that would be something.

Say something nice about my husband

>>535139021
Such as...? These "npcs" you talk about had professional experience with the brand in Archie.

Who exactly are you suggesting? And please don't say Udon, if you fags are an eyesore with Sonic, you don't want to hear me still be sour about Darkstalkers.

>>535138950
IDW has all the same problems and complaints in a different form.

>>535139135
I don’t hate Sonic. I just think he can be more than a sentence worth of characterization WITHOUT being some gay relatable Tumblr OC. I don’t know about the other guy. Maybe he does hate Sonic. I don’t know. I also don’t really care.

>>535139193
Why do you keep name dropping?
Why does it have to be someone known, for fucks sake, someone do their job and SCOUT.

>>535139127
Sally is the tree. Unlike the wind she is not free but rooted and dutiful. Her plumage even changes colors over time.

>>535139148
In my eyes, Sonic is an Ethical Manwhore

>>535139170
He's cute, milesbetter than snoozefest Dykes

>>535138869
Or maybe nobody wants to write Sonic because he's fucking shit. At some point you have to recognize that the common factor here is Sonic himself.

>>535139135
I never denied such a thing, and I will yell it from the rooftops. Sonic is a garbage "character", and that is why nobody likes him.

>>535139135
Piss off you religious nutcase.

>>535138168
Imagine if IDWnic says Eggman will never change.

>>535139170
>>535139365
necrophiles.

>>535139148
this is what Eggman sees after every battle

>>535139393
>Or maybe nobody wants to write Sonic because he's fucking shit.

Honestly, this. Sonic always gets minor talent to write for him and many literal whos, because the best of the best aren't interested in this rat.

And with such a weird public, I don't blame them.

Which sonic character wants to get knotted

>>535139596
All of them.

>>535139170
>>535139365
Your husbando is fucking dead, and good fucking riddance.

Also, fuck all the retard schizos who insist that he's coming back. Bitches always making up excuses to be mad.

If the blue rat is so horrible, how would (You) fix him? (No, you can’t just say, “I’d get rid of him entirely”, that’s lazy.)

>>535139457
Dead person shouldn't be this hot

>>535130952
This arc doesn't suit Sonic well. He's not the kind of guy who would go on a secret mission to steal things. This arc would work better if they just removed him and Tails and kept only Shadow and Rouge in this arc.

>>535138545
Every pitfall the hedgehogs have is from consuming older media and coming to a wrong conclusion (See everything about Team Dark in Archie thanks to Sonic 2006). Silver just has the hardest gap because Sega won't help

>>535139704
>Sonic has a micropenis
It’s over…

>>535139774
This isn't Sonic anymore.
Sonic is now a mercenary that works for a restoration military.

>>535139734
I would get rid of him entirely. Fuck you.

Literally nothing I could suggest would ever stop you or Sega from screeching "OOC". So into the trash he goes.

>>535139457
It's okay I can use condoms

>>535139972
I’m not a Windfag, I just want to know how Sonic could theoretically be better written. I am asking this question in good faith.

>>535139691
Is it sonails hour already

>>535139774
>not having Sonic in a storyline
I can FEEL the board room erupting in screeching anger.

>>535139931
Case and point.

Oh okay that's cool sega so rouge gets to be spy and treasure hunter but knuckles is just a retarded warrior

Starline never had a chance of receiving Eggman's love, we all know which blobian Eggman is obsessed with.

>>535140105
It's never not

>>535140132
>I can FEEL the board room erupting in screeching anger.
I'd love to know where they were during all of that Diamond Cutters BS.

>>535140132
I don’t think SEGA actually cares about characterization. They just care about money and about “the brand” (as a vehicle to make money). People who whine about “OOC” care more about the characters than SEGA itself does.

>>535139705
What do you mean? We want him back.

>>535140157
>knuckles is a retarded warrior
Why is this bad?

>>535140067
>I'm not a Windfag
>I am asking this question in good faith.

>>535140261
Sonic went to the mask orgy because it was an excuse for sex with tails

>>535140361
I am being serious. I don’t know why you’re being so needlessly hostile. I was just trying to ask a hypothetical question. Have Windfags really badgered you that much? If so, then I’m sorry. I don’t know why they get like that.

>>535140172
Sonic Underground is written like Axe Cop.
A child who doesn't have any idea how anything works or is laid out but tells stories with no hesitation and complete confidence.
And... why does every clip someone posts of this show have Sonia in a bikini or skimpy outfit?
I thought her outfit was a red dress.

>>535139881
with how silverfags talk about silver they would have me believe that hes ooc in that sonic channel comic

>>535140535
Underground's only lasting legacy is hedgehog incest fanart

>>535140635
Exactly as the writers intend btw (because they’re French)

>>535140157
Well, yeah. It's kind of her thing. Helps a lot that she isn't beholden to a single location and specific maguffin. Like, at most there's Club Rouge, but she's got actual staff to run the place.

>>535140535
Nothing about this show is consistent at all. I'm having a good time.
Sonia has a costume change in around half the episodes.

>>535138545
Unironically too nuanced for people to properly understand their characterization, so they ignore any and all examples of their character from the games and supplement them with generic and easier to understand tropes.

>>535140784
Damn, I wanna watch it with a group. Wish our Cytube worked.

>>535139136
Thank you, Marza. Wonder who brilliantly decided to give her the moon shot. I'm thinking Fowler.

>>535139881
With Silver I think Sonic team just has a check list of ideas they want to emphasize because his THEMES(young, naive, optimistic) but don't get into the specifics or anything else about him. Ian somehow went almost 20 years without knowing that Silver is is supposed to be rude,

>>535140535
Nobody told the french team that Sonia's english dub voice was male. It makes the show radioactive to watch.

>>535140850
same, I want to watch Sonic shit in a group

It's weird to me how much older millennials seethed at the Sonic series

You should look at how little Flynn gets paid and realize that no one else will take that job.

So does the guy who hates Sonic hate him because of windfags or does he just hate him independently and windfags just aggravate him even more because they like Sonic and are extremely autistic about his characterization?

>>535140781
BUT KNUCKLES IS A TREASURE HUNTER TOO AHHHHHHH

>>535139881
>>535140543
What's wrong with the comic?

>>535139290
>I just think he can be more than a sentence worth of characterization WITHOUT being some gay relatable Tumblr OC
He already is, and the majority of people who vehemently disagree with that notion are the same people that preach about IDW, Archie, and the Movies are masterworks of characterization, despite being incredibly simple and generic at their core.

>>535140879
>Ian somehow went almost 20 years without knowing that Silver is is supposed to be rude,
So did I, and I played his piece of shit game. As you say, Sega is far too up their ass about 'muh themes', whereas they should actually be concerned about personality and characterization. Nobody gives a shit about the damn themes.

>>535141004
How much does he actually get paid?

>>535141135
Okay but so does Sonic being generic and noncomplex work or not? I’m sorry I’m just not sure I understand the underlying narrative behind this whole debate. I might just be retarded.

>>535141184
He said that most of his income come from the Bumblekast.

>>535141147
>So did I.
Nta, but really? Silver always acted like a jackass to me.

>>535141045
Is he though? Is he really?

>>535141004
Just hire Imada to write.

Why are people acting like characterization and themes are mutually exclusive?

>>535139704
Bean's packing.

Never forget that Yuji Naka got fired when he asked Sega to give the dev team more money.

>>535141041
No, I hate Sonic because Windfags are right about him.

>>535141420
Because americans dont value the themes

>>535139704
okay but how big is Eggman's cock?

Reminder catfags are pedophiles

>>535141348
I was more caught up on the fact he's an impulsive retard. But sure, I guess he was a bit impolite about trying to straight up murder a stranger because Satan told him to.

>>535141420
They aren't but you either get Sonic Team autistically putting themes before anything else(especially for Silver) or western writers having no idea what the themes are in the first place.

Why can't you admit Sega is an embarrasment to jap developers?

>>535141348
He literally beats Sonic to a pulp and then mocks him while he's down. Silver's character revolves around him being hotheaded, proactive, and pragmatic to the point of being vicious, DESPITE the fact that his intentions are entirely selfless and noble.
Silver puts his life on the line to save billions of people just because he hates the idea of others suffering, and it's his overwhelming love for the innocent that causes him to lash out so harshly at anything he perceives as selfish and evil. The issue is that his temper and shoot-first approach to justice causes more harm than help at times, which serves as his main character flaw.

>>535141659
I think you misspelled creamfags

>>535139886
6 inches is a micropenis to you?

>>535141850
Nope catniggers spammed cp on /an/

>>535141956
Why should i give a shit what happens on /an/

>>535141803
That doesn't register to most people because the dub plays him as an insecure kid.

>>535142054
Because cats are reddit and dogs are 4chan

>>535142198
No, dogFUCKING is 4chan

>>535141559
Themes are just ideas or messages to be explored. Character arcs are the means by which you do that. Look at any given Gundam series for example. The theme is 'War is Bad'. Even fucking Judau has an arc where he has to learn that yes, it IS your problem, because war affects you even if you are supposedly outside of the system.

>>535142243
Ok that doesnt change that americans who write sonic dont value that

>>535142187
Sad but true.

Reminder consuming even non Sonic west media is unnaceptable.

>>535142391
ATLA is bad now?

>>535142391
I’m about to rewatch movie 3 on paramount+ thanks for the rec :)

>>535141741
Yep, it's French.

>>535142187
Sonic and Shadow get these cool voices while Silver gets a nasally nerd voice. Bro was never going to recover from that.

>>535142548
You like Bubsy bobcat, not Sonic.

>>535142810
No I like Sonic, when he’s an actual character

>>535142382
I'm an American, and I very much value when writing integrates the main theme of the story. But when I don't have any interesting characters to follow, I cease to give a shit about what you're trying to say cause I'm bored as fuck.

And what IS Sonic the Hedgehog trying to say? That freedom is the right of all sentient beings? That unchecked industrialism leads to barbaric exploitation of the natural world? That government corruption leads to innocents being killed to maintain the status quo? It USED to say these things, but then it became more interested in Darkseid jobbing to Sonic because he's a super special snowflake with no personality.

>>535142932
Movie Sonic is just uwushit.

>>535142932
Then why are you watching him written like Bubsy?

When is Sega gonna do the objectively right thing and canonize Maria's incredibly iconic Bad Girl Panties

Movieniggers get the rope

>>535142647
It's only his English voice that have that problem too. I've heard Silver in every other language and none of them have that problem.

>>535142391
I accept my fate.

Shadow the Hedgelet

>>535143151
America just didn't like Silver from day 1. That kind of voice was definitely given to him to make him sound lame.

The movies saved this dogshit franchise, never forget that

>>535143238
Rouge has always been taller than Shadow.

>>535143293
Okay? Rather it be the movies than trash like IDW or Archie.

>>535143030
>but then it became more interested in Darkseid jobbing to Sonic because he's a super special snowflake with no personality
Are you so up your own ass that you needed Sonic to give Darkseid some thematic speech about why destruction and conquest are bad??

>>535143293
And they did so by making Sonic an actual CHARACTER. Personally, I think those movies are hot wet trash, but at least I buy that this version of Sonic is a person. Nobody likes the wind shit, and there is hard proof.

>>535142391
I don't take directions from Modernzooms, sorry.

>>535143238
The best part of the Sonic X DC crossover is just watching all the DC characters fucking tower over the mobians

>>535141239
>does Sonic being generic and noncomplex work or not?
A simple and "relatable" protagonist is an easy way to get the average joe on board with something because you only need a surface understanding to engage with the media. The issue is that once that's said and done, there's nothing else to grow attached to, no meat and potatoes to keep people engaged before the next flavor of the month thing comes to grab everyone's attention.
A main part of what keeps the Sonic fanbase alive outside of the memorable designs is the fact that there's more to the cast and its characters than meets the eye.
Sonic is just a cool dude that travels the world seeking a good time on the surface, but his level of shear confidence, incorruptibility, and borderline inhuman levels of nonchalance in the face of adversity, is unrelatable. It paints him both as someone that you could just run into on a hike, as well as some sort of almighty ideal to aspire to be. They're enough surface level appeal to get you hooked, but once you realize that there's something strange and esoteric to these characters that goes beyond what you spot on the surface, it gets people talking, wondering, and trying to make stories around and decipher what makes these characters so strange.

I personally feel like Shadow is actually a better example of this than Sonic, since there are seemingly tons of people that refuse to engage with the idea that Shadow is an inhuman Frankenstein's Monster-esc creature that fails to properly understand and empathize with others due to his artificial nature, with people simply writing off that nuance and replacing it with a more typical "Traumatized father" kind of vibe, where he was originally a person "just like you and me" before losing someone close and being afraid to love again.
They throw out something unique to replace it with something relatable, and they miss out on what made them special.

>>535143596
>Nobody likes the wind shit
Sonic has been going strong for years despite having "wind shit" in its content. So you're just a newbie.

OMG

>>535143706
>going strong for years
LMAO

>>535143259
Pete Capella was just doing an impression of his brother. Ironically he tried to to give Silver angry and almost punk rock elements to his performance.

Good night, /sthg/, I hate OCfaggotry, shipfaggotry, and windfaggotry.

>>535143582
>character is allegedly meant to represent freedom
>up against a character who represents oppression
For all your wank about themes, you reject the one that's right there. But then, Sonic isn't anywhere near complex enough to pull a 'world of cardboard' bit.

>>535143043
Not really

>>535143829
trvth nuke

>>535143829
What do you like?

>>535143615
>The best part of the Sonic X DC crossover is just watching all the DC characters fucking tower over the mobians
The whole thing should've just been this. Fuck the plot, just have them all hang out and be cute together.

... Also, hear me out.

>>535143797
Yes? 1991 to Present. You sound like a Meta Era tourist.

>>535144132
>a Meta Era tourist.
He's an Archie tourist.

>>535143860
>world of cardboard
It's not about complexity. That just doesn't fit him. Just like having a lightning rod wouldn't fit him either. As with every critic you sound like you just want something other than what Sonic actually is.
>you reject the one that's right there
Sonic doesn't end every game he beats Eggman in with a speech about freedom. He didn't need to lecture Darkseid because in case you forgot from all these years of Ian, lecturing his enemies isn't something he normally does, especially when they don't have anything to learn.
Infinite got a few lines about how friendship is the real power and not his fake power. Metal Sonic didn't get that because there was nothing to tell him except "try harder lol".

he's so fucking fast

>>535144205
Ah, my mistake. That's even worse.

>>535144212
>you just want something other than what Sonic actually is.
Yes, that's correct, because Sonic is SHIT.

>>535144378
dude why do you hate sonic

AOSTH niggers get the rope

>>535144425
Because he's a boring Mary Sue.

>>535144064
Cute girls, Silvaze, non-static characters, and actual characters.

>>535144132
You really gonna act like Sonic wasn’t the butt of jokes from 2006 to about 2022?

>>535143596
>And they did so by making Sonic an actual CHARACTER.
Movie Sonic is the least liked part of the movies.
>Nobody likes the wind shit, and there is hard proof.
The most beloved and iconic pieces of Sonic media are the ones where he's a larger than life ideal. The Adventure games being the biggest example of this.

IDW defenders and anti windfags remind me of that dobson comic where he was upset that none of the stuff from the Mario DiC cartoon was respected in the franchise

>>535143259
silver was going to have an uphill battle with or without a cool voice. sonic 06 was coming hot off the heels of shadow05, a game seen as the franchise's fall from grace with a deviantart oc wielding guns. now imagine yet another male hedgehog being introduced, coming in with not only a bad story but showing him beating sonic. there's no rematch on sonic's end or any sort of worthwhile resolution that makes the new hedgehog enjoyable in any way. just a weird we're friends now scene, sonic's death, and then that same hedgehog turning super along with sonic to beat a time god

>>535144684
>Silvaze
>non-static characters
>actual characters
lmao

>>535144639
Why? They're the most innocent part of the Sonic fandom. They didn't cause the meta era, they didn't beg for their characters to be implemented into the mainline series when compared to SatAM fans, and they don't shit on other characters like what Blaze and Amy fans do.

How is Sonic not a character if he's the wind?

>>535144749
The Adventure games are jank pieces of shit that are desperately trying and failing to be epic. Sonic fans, I am begging you to acquire standards. The instant you start playing real video games, you'll see how foolish you've been.

who invited chatgpt

>>535140781
How is she doing that with her leg?

>>535144783
>a deviantart oc wielding guns.
Both Silver and Shadow suffered from how America viewed them. What they did with their voiceacting, and script changes was borderline character assassination.

>>535144813
>. They didn't cause the meta era
You say this but the tone of the meta era was closer to aosth than it was to satam.
Satamfags were definitely more obnoxious than aosth fags but if they really had influence wouldn't the 2010s games look less like Super Mario Galaxy and more like Batman the Animated Series?

>>535144981
Toon limbs bend rather than hinge

>>535140524
They're a troll that insists on dragging out the conversation by being a massive cunt about innocent questions. Just report and ignore.

The wind in a diaper

[doc_03]

>>535144949
>he thinks we’re talking about gameplay

>>535145170
Silvaze is not "dynamic" at all. Cope.

I don't know why I'm saying this but nothing about Shade the Echidna suggests she has any experience with sex. She'd probably be awkward and avoid eye contact. She wouldn't know what to do with her hands.

I see you stopped having the silvisper fankid as your avatar. Glad you wisened up

>>535145196
The writing is bad too.
>someone in the past did a bad thing and some strong guy is butthurt about it!
Woopdee fucking shit. Seriously, play some real games for once.

>>535145170
Decent for porn, that’s about it

Cute fankid

>>535145385
Echidnas didn't get wiped out by bird hitler, they're just very awkward about breeding so their numbers constantly fall low

amy!!

>>535145385
>NOT posting the actual screenshot from Sonic X

>>535145398
You’re thinking of 06

>>535145385
>Madam Rouge, please educate me in the ways of lovemaking. I submit myself to your teachings.

Why come to a Sonic general on /vg/ when you don't like any of the games, characters, and stories?

>let me show you how dynamic Silvaze is by posting them standing next to each other in fluff fan art
Silvazefags are pathetic.

>>535144949
>Sonic fans, I am begging you to acquire standards.
You seem to care a whole lot for someone that not only hates several of the main characters, but who also doesn't even consider themselves a fan of the series. I don't understand you.

>>535145592
I do like the games, just not any of the recent ones. Same for the stories

>>535145559
Why the hell do these games all have the same fucking plot? Hack franchise.

>>535145592
>waaah, I wan muh echochamber
Oh grow up.

>>535145592
I do though. I just really hate how much people defend the current writing from SOA and its off shoots.

Kys if you like non game media

Rouge can make Sonic's balls drop , she can make him tingle down there like no other female can, and then he realizes it is easier being around her than any other female

>>535145806
Opinion on mods/game hacks?

>>535145754
Why do you waste your time talking about something you don't like?

>>535145850
Yeah but she has like cooties or smth

>>535145850
Sonouge was my guilty pleasure until twitter suddenly decided its the best ship evar. They somehow took this straight as fuck pairing and made it gay.

>>535145806
No. What are you gonna do about it faggot?

>>535145754
Why are you involving yourself in a series you clearly don't like?

>>535145949
KYS YOU RUINED SONIC

>>535145850
OOC. The Wind does not fuck, nor does he feel physical or emotional attraction to anyone or anything under any circumstances.

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Ah, let's do it.

>>535145575
West slop

>>535146036
this is cope akin to Amy thinking Sonic cares about her

>>535146014
No I saved Sonic. Cry about it more, maybe then you’ll get a decent game

Silvaze will never have a real story. You're all frauds and everyone knows it.

>>535145850
Sonic is the one guy that's completely immune to her wiles and charm. That's what keeps her coming back, he's a challenge that she can't help but try to overcome.

>>535145386
>silvisper fankid as your avatar
Huh?

>>535145949
Its crazy how they turned one of the darkest parts of sonic into a goofy joke

>>535145850
What about Tangle

>>535145931
>>535145998
I could ask the same of you. Literally all you idiots talk about is how you hate everything in this franchise.

No one likes you AOSTH, SATAM, Fleetway, Archie, Boom, Underground, Prime, Movie niggers

Gooned but im still horny. I should get back to work and goon again in a bit

>>535146185
No, Sonic just controls his reaction to it, and lets his extroverted social mask play off his aroused energy.
Sonic actually likes being teased like that, because he likes hiding and controlling his reaction, and he knows it entices Rouge to try more, and him to play it off more, and it gets him attention

>>535146241
I actually do enjoy the series. Specifically the games, You, on the other hand, say you hate the old games AND the new games, and whatever else this franchise has.

>>535146241
No anon, I hate the current direction and writing. It's you who claims to despite the original series and its characters.

Amy talking about how Sonic is the wind while she can hear Rouge riding him in the other room

>>535146479
>>535146501
>claim to like the series
>literally NEVER talk about the good stuff, only ever bitch endlessly
Uh huh.

>>535135989
The wind is American and cannot be comprehended by feeble Japanese general audiences.

AOSTH Robotnik is an insult to the source material.

I'm glad they got a moment like this after losing the '06 moment they had. They're my favorite ship.

>>535146532
Holy fuck is it Rouge-cucks-Amy hours again?

>>535146609
>literally NEVER talk about the good stuff, only ever bitch endlessly
That's literally you, though.

>>535146532
How many times do I have to tell you people that The Wind does NOT fuck. Ever.

>>535146712
It's funny how when Sally is pink, Sonic's character is closer to the games. Consistently.

Shartria

>>535146420
>Sonic actually likes being teased like that, because he likes hiding and controlling his reaction
Sonic does enjoy banter, but this idea is strictly headcanon.
>and it gets him attention
Sonic does not crave attention. The idea of him being some kind of spotlight hog that's obsessed with people's opinion of him and him being the center of attention goes directly against the fact that he's supposed to be humble.

My ships > your ships

>>535146767
That's literally YOU. You never talk about anything you like, you just whine about how Ian Flynn raped your dog.

>>535146843
My ship (cnc and ic) >>>>>> your ship (slop enjoyed by psychos)

>>535146843
>Wade summons the spirit bomb because everyone loves him

>>535146843
Wade is Jewish

>>535146917
>Muh Ian!
Ah, so this is what your meltdown is all about. Ian is a hack. Get over it, you overgrown baby.

>>535146712
This is why she left his sorry ass for her PDA.

>>535146739
And to think, this whole time, Shadow is tuning this out completely because he canonically doesn't a shit about Rouge.

Yeah. I would unironically replace Ian with Sparky or Randomfox
>B-b-b-but the stories would be incoherent Sonic wanking
Worth it.

Pretty telling everyone loves the manga unlike movie slop.

>>535147162
I'd replace them with tailstroon and honeytroon
they understand sonic

>>535146805
its not headcannon, it is the power of intuition, emotional intelligence, and extrapolation

>>535147008
It is an objective fact that you complain about Flynn constantly. The irony of you calling someone an overgrown baby when you life revolves around seething over some writer who works on the shitty blue rat franchise. .

Ok which of you killed Sonic Stadium

>>535147114
you're kind of a pessimistic bum, huh?

>>535147263
>Waaaah! Stop criticizing Ian!
>Fuck your shitty blue rat franchise!
Lmao. Flynnbro over here just admitted he hates the series, everyone. What a "shock".

>>535147343
>pessimistic
It's a canonical fact that Shadow doesn't care about Rouge, and in fact seems to find her annoying.

>>535147213
I'd let Tailsyume write one game WITH access to Honey the Cat and Mina Mongoose just to see what she does.

>>535146917
Ian and Evan weren't even able to write their own characters consistently. Surge, Tangle, and Whisper suffered dramatically due to them being unable to agree on how to write them, which isn't even to bring up how riddled with plotholes their stories tend to be.
>>535147263
>you life revolves around seething over some writer who works on the shitty blue rat franchise. .
Have you considered that the reason you don't care about the quality of the people writing for this franchise, is because you don't actually love the franchise enough to want to see it prosper?

>>535146739
Cute N Canon. There's been an influx and antis recently though which makes me feel bad for the dougebags. Luckily they're able to keep a sense of humor about it.

I hate official lore, my canon are all the porn comics

>>535147376
cnc

post bnnuys

>>535147285
It was me.

Someone insulted my boy Charmy and I wasn't going to let that stand.

>>535147285
they said they were going offline for some maintenance

>>535147457
>>535147530
Look up 'fallacy of opposition'.

Also, thanks for proving my point, jackass.

I am genuinely surprised that Shadouge got bumped off the shipping poll while Shadria survived. The culture in this general sure has changed a lot in ten years.

>>535147114
>This is why she left his sorry ass for her PDA.
Sonic and Sally weren't compatible, and this was the best outcome for the both of them. Sonic wouldn't give a damn however.
>And to think, this whole time, Shadow is tuning this out completely because he canonically doesn't a shit about Rouge.
Shadow doesn't view her how she views him, but he's certainly not the kind to tune her out completely. Even though he's the kind to see Rouge and Omega as loyal allies rather than friends, he's still been shown to try to understand more "human" emotions. Rouge's words might not mean much, or even get through to him, but Shadow is still the kind to try and understand, even if he cannot.

>>535147727
Just come clean, anon. How much did you pay Ian on his podcast to answer your cringy headcanon question? $20? $50?

>>535147376
>>535147579
OOC. Shadow also does not fuck.

>b-but muh Hot Honey
Not canon.

>>535147114
Sonallyfags shit on Ian regularly for this but in the end of the day they generally hate "windnic" as a character. As far as I can tell they would consider the "Actual Sonic" a horrible love interest for Sally.
And sure, you can bring up that it doesn't line up with SatAM. Fair enough. Sally is blatantly straight in SatAM. But if we're going with "the creator's original intent is God" then Sonally cannot function. Sally in a setting where all characters adhere to their "original intent" would be further from Sonic than ever.

>>535147772
>genuinely surprised
>blatant botting and spitevoting
It's no surprise that everyone who was threatened by the ship banded together to suppress it. Even then it only barely got kicked off. At least all it's votes were legitimate.

>>535147857
Not one cent. You are desperate to make this about your crush, and it's not. It's about Sonic being shit. Ian was never the problem, but you're not ready to accept that.

>>535147476
They fucked after this

>>535133850
Really funny to see that in canon Shadow wouldn't bother dressing up, he's carried by fanon so hard.

>>535148121
If there's one thing that can be said about Shadougefags it's that they're earnest

When will westniggers be banned

Sonallybros...

>>535147849
That's some hard spin, mate. Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge or Omega, and no amount of cope will change that.

>>535148209
Nope. Shadow doesn't fuck. Pretty sure his black arms anatomy means he doesn't have genitalia anyway.

>>535148374
Flynn did this

Your response?

>>535148429
Pretty sure his hedgehog anatomy means he does

>>535148170
>Ian was never the problem
Not the problem, a problem. Another on a massive list of issues this franchise has been through. If you can't see that, you're just as biased as you claim everyone else is.

Death to fleetway fags

>>535148456
Sorry for what? Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks, especially since they're such good size and all.

>>535148170
>Not one cent.
Yet you're desperately defending him and shitting on the franchise, so I doubt it. I bet you wouldn't say jack if I shit on Evan, Maekawa, Pontaff, or Imada. Hit the road, bozo.

>>535148374
So this little detail from the reboot annoys me honestly.
Just hear me out.
From Sonic's perspective, he ENTERED that world. The Reboot World is effectively the same as IDW. It's "The games but-" .
Sally is surprised that Sonic likes hugs. Sonic doesn't know what a wisp is and has never heard of the Deadly Six. The other characters are confused by his behavior.
This implies, dreadfully, that the Reboot World had a "windnic" who's brain was overwritten when Archienic came around. This "new" Archienic was then subsumed into the world as his memories faded.
What an awful thing to canonize. I don't care that much for Archie. I really try to give it a chance, I like some of its ideas, but things like this sour it for me.

>>535148374
I love these two so much.

>>535148594
Because theyre lesbian or...? Cuz its not cuz the ship makes any sense

>>535144813
They are not real fans

>>535143665
The thing is, Shadow is both an inhuman homunculus AND a traumatized man at the same time.

>>535148204
>Tails will let Sonic walk all over him at the drop of a hat
Yes, we know anon.

>>535148473
We don't know if he even is part hedgehog. Even the journal doesn't explain why he looks like a mobian hedgehog. It's almost like this franchise is fucking retarded or something.

>>535147476
>canonical
>idw

Chroniclesanon why is Shadow the only one who doesn't get a fancy new outfit? Don't think I didn't notice...

>>535148783
Please stop bringing up Archie. It's not a good representation of the characters.

>>535144117
Dianaposter… Is that you…

>>535148374
did these 2 really end up in a gay relationship? I have no clue about archie

>>535148374
I'm guessing the cutesy scenes with reboot Sonic and Amy were done by the writers and artists to make it look less like this kek

>>535148791
If you played the games youd see the shadow heads in geralds lab

>>535148579
Funny enough, I think Blaze was the only one unchanged by the reset. And it doesn't matter because she barely interacted with Sonic's world or the erased OCs in the original universe so it's like Sonic's dimension never changed to her, lol.

>>535148664
Because they're adorable, and its one of those relationships that's built on mutual support and affection. Which I suppose makes it, like, normal. As opposed to all the pretentious thematic wank of other pairings.

>>535148579
>They couldn't just reboot the franchise, there needed to be an in-universe reason for why certain characters have been deleted.
It's convoluted, overexplanatory, and needlessly dark in an attempt to feel deep and mature. It's one of the main issues with Ian's writing.

>>535148885
I don't mind people discussing Archie events but it annoys me when people use it (or IDW) to explain what a character would or wouldn't do.
It is obvious now that it should never, ever be used as characterization reference.

>>535135989
>>535136309
I honestly prefer my Sonic to be a mix of both wind and west, freedom incarnate, but not to the psychopathic degree most windfags eant him to be, think the nicer fleeteay moments or ova Sonic.

>>535145754
Ragebait

Sonic appealing to westerners was a mistake.
Should be rebooted to be 100% japanese.

>>535148885
That image was showing IDW and I was agreeing with the poster. The consistent thing about Tails in most adaptations is that he'll always be a yes man for Sonic and won't clash with him 90% of the time.

>>535149010
How do you feel about Shadouge?

>>535149010
>that's built on mutual support and affection

>>535149105
>fleeteay
>>535149205
>>535149257
KYS WESTNIGGER

>>535149056
I remember him mulling over whether or not it made sense to go with Scourge's super form having inverted eyes. Rule of Cool is seen as a "guilty pleasure" to him. A last resort.
I think there's a place for this sort of logistics-based thinking. It can help with immersion, but it can also break immersion. Especially when you do things like try and in-universe rationalize a reboot.

>>535148594
>>535149010
I prefer shardcole and sally and nic just being friends but I get the appeal. I just feel like making them romantic kinda diminishes the complexities of their relationship ship, im fine with it having some sapphic undertones however. But I like them as a friends more.

And here we go yet again with this idea that all iterations of a multimedia franchise MUST conform to a single homogeneous vision instead of being allowed to stand as their own separate take on the material. I don't know where this idea came from or why people subscribe to it, but it needs to die in a ditch.

>>535130891 (OP)
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The only time I liked Ians writing was in that arc where the lawsuit took full effect and the Echidnas were removed off-screen by that Thrash character. I liked how eerie and dramatic it was, and you know that's not how Ian wanted it, but he had to compromise.

>>535146609
This is the epitome of hypocrisy. You hate the games and the franchise and the main character and insist they all suck, and you repeat these points ad nauseam. Then now you lecture the fans about how much they bitch and moan about the series you think is irredeemable and has no positive qualities or relevance and don’t focus on the positives of said franchise that you hate. You criticize people who like the games for consuming Japanese jank slop, yet now you lecture people who are critical of the sloppiest material in the franchise or only focusing on the negatives. Make it make sense.

>>535149313
Anon I am exhausted, give me a break
Also:
>Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic

>>535149383
there are no females here
the only thing we offer are troons and most of them are taken

>>535149105
I genuinely feel like Sonic from the comics is a far worse person than any instance of windnic. Archie puts his own self image and ego above his "friends" and others, and IDWnic would rather flaunt his morals even if it means letting villains run free and blaming their victims for wanting justice.
Windnic is just a guy that loves adventure, who steps up to protect the people and things he cares about, and puts egotists like Eggman or Jet in their place just because they're self-centered pricks. Windnic is odd, distant, and seemingly uncaring at times, but no one puts their life on the line for others time and time again unless they truly do care.

Sallicole is less toxic than Whispangle. You can't debunk this.

>>535149212
It's fucking stupid, and I want to smack these people upside the head.

>>535149471
>Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things JP Sonic

>>535149349
Let's not pretend Shard x Nicole wasn't an asspull as well. They were just shipped because they were both artificial. That's shallow.

>>535149404
The funny thing is that at that point in time Shade had already escaped the Twilight Cage, beaten up Knuckles, and then ran off unaccounted for.

>>535149338
>I think there's a place for this sort of logistics-based thinking. It can help with immersion, but it can also break immersion.
I feel like the worst thing he's done, at least recently, is trying to add the whole "Batman sparing the Joker" dilemma to Sonic and Eggman. It was done under the pretense of Ian being unable to suspend his disbelief on why no one managed to kill or capture Eggman, and in an attempt to rationalize what he viewed as a mistake, added a dynamic that directly went against already established media.

>>535148946
No, Ian did a JK Rowling Dumbledore is gay on Twitter after the comic was cancelled. When IDW is axed you'll get a repeat with confirmations that Tangle and Whisper are gay, Jewel is a gay cuckold, Surge was planned develop a gay crush on Amy, Belle was going to get wood reassignment surgery, Mimic is genderfluid, Lunar is non-binary, Starline was gay, Kit was going to have an incel school shooter arc, and Lanolin was going to have breast cancer.

>>535149205
Knothole girls refuse to wear underwear huh?

>>535149683
That didn't happen in the main comic's universe.

Why are still subhumans that like west content?

>>535149559
Shadally? Sonally? Sonadow? Shadicole?

>>535149447
Okay, let me stop you right there, hoss. You're inserting a plural. I hate Sonic. Y'know, Sonic the Hedgehog? The soulless blue rat who sucks to play as cause he's a shit character who controls like a methhead on ice? That one. I hate him. There's plenty of characters I do like in this franchise. The Wind ain't one of them. He belongs in the fucking trash. Because he's trash, see. Just in case your severely autistic ass wasn't quite grasping the point there.

>>535149480
I see where your coming from but comcinic, if anything, is very inconsistent writing wise. sometimes he is selfless, othe times an asshole. It’s generally a Russian roulette if you get actual good characterization or him fucking over tails for the 50th time
>>535149650
Eh, kinda but I can more see how they would realistically get together
>both artificial and broke away from their creators and restrictions
>Both have a deep appreciation for life and wish to experience it more
>Both are also vastly protective of those they consider friends, going to great lengths to shield them form harm

>>535149884
You didn’t address the totality of my point. You just clarified one thing I already knew. Explain the rest.

>>535149835
Shadow does not fuck. Ever. Get that into your thick skull, please.

Sallicole is a kino ship because they're dead like all yurishit should be.

>>535149698
The Batman thing doesn't work because it is brought up constantly. You can almost never bring up a major Batman incarnation withouth earing at least one other character criticize this. Batman isn't supposed to come across as reasonable. It's a morality vs reasoning discussion within the narrative. It actually has a point behind it beyond "killing bad".
Sonic has too much media counteracting it. Including Ian's faves like SatAM. That's not even getting into canon.
Overexplaining things can be fun, like giving Spider-man tarantula hair to explain why he can climb walls. But using it to explain a logical consequence in the narrative's format (Timmy Turner is actually sixty years old!) it's never fun.

Gerald is the Yuji Naka to Shadow's Sonic

“Hey son, tell me about this ‘Shadow’ guy.”
>“Well, his best friend was shot by the military right in front of him before he was frozen for 50 years.”
“…What?”
>“And he’s also half alien DNA.”
“…”
>“Did I mention his gun?”

Movieniggers are the cancer killing /sthg/

>>535150036
>Supports Sallycole
>Games Lore Purist

Belle!

What do you think of her?

>>535150138
imagine the orgy

>>535149372
This, I don’t know why this general is so obsessed with canon, they can talk about lore and such if they want but they don’t need to sperg out when someone talks about shit they don’t like.

>>535149698
That dynamic fell flat because Batman actually has a personal reason to be like that (Parents were murdered in front of him as a child. He also doesn't trust himself to not go off the deep end and just kill his enemies routinely afterwards.) Sonic doesn't it.

>>535149972
>You didn’t address the totality of my point.
Yeah, because your point is based on shit you made up in your head.

Also, I didn't read the rest of your whiny rant, and I'm not going to. Neener neener, as the common parlance goes. The fellatio is optional.

>>535149372
I would prefer for my characters and setting to remain consistent. If I want something wildly new, I will go enjoy different media, instead of insisting that things need to change to fit my new tastes.
If you want to make a character act like a different person without any explanation, make a new character, make a new setting, do something CREATIVE instead of clinging to a preexisting setting and shuffling things around to make it seem like something different. It's so woefully lazy it comes off as downright corporate, an attempt to grab up as many people they can by having their limited list of owned properties cover as much ground as possible.

If there’s one thing these threads have taught me, it is that people will find excuses to argue about literally anything.

>>535150210
I don't think of her.

>>535150210
I want to see if her counciousness persists after being fed through a woodchipper

>>535150210
I don't

>>535150210
Pft! Who?

>>535150036
Shadria? Shadade? Shadolly? Shadaze?

>>535150135
>>535150258
Both of these points are right as well. It's as if he attempted to replicate the first moral dilemma he could think of in order to have his story have more substance, but ironically didn't understand what made the original dilemma work in the first place.

>batman
This is a jap general.
Zero westshit mention please

>>535150275
Concession accepted, whiny concern trolling faggot.

>>535150330
>>535150334
>>535150353
>>535150427

Ian sounds Autistic.

>>535150197
Sallycole is a double-edge sword because it does involve ignoring the original intent of one of the characters but is far less ooc than having that character be Sonic.

>>535149205
>You will never be Antoine frolicking and playing with your newlywedded wife as you roll down hills laughing.
>You will never hoist one of her legs up as you make love to her, mating pressing her tight bunussy as you French her, making out within a field of flowers.
>You will never get topped behind a tre,e her fat bunny ass clapping against your legs rapidly as she fucks you like, well, a rabbit.
Why live bros.

>>535150526
One of us

>>535150210
Like the rest of the IDW characters, a neat idea turned squandered potential by poor writing.

>>535150470
Kill yourself

Ian was the only guy who introduced the whole "Sonic doesn't kill aksually!". Even fucking Movienic thought he killed his Robotnik in the second movie and wanted to kill Shadow in the 3rd movie and Movienic is considered a zoomer among all the Sonics.

>535150290
Sonic fans are NEVER beating the autism allegations, holy shit.

>>535150253
THIS IS A JAPANESE FRANCHISE
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT WEST COMICS, MOVIES, SHOWS OR WEST DEVELOPED SHIT LIKE MANIA OR TMOSTH
TALK ABOUT THE JAP GAMES, THE ANIME OR MANGA OR FUCK OFF

>>535150290
As a transformers fan i legit can’t give less of a fuck, franchise reboots have been apart of my fandom forever, so long as the core traits are there I can still see them as a version of the character.

Belle must honestly look like absolute nightmare fuel to the people of Sonic's World. This creepy as fuck uncanny middle ground between lifeless robot and a real living thing.

>>535148869 (me)
ANSWER ME PLEASE

>>535150526
Are you German? Why did you capitalize the Noun?

>>535150627
>Archie character image

>>535150610
We /sthg/ chads we never stop until westniggers are gone.

Jap Purists are having a melty…

Nicolefag, how do you feel about the wind?

Fuck off to /co/, /fast/ or pluschan if you love westshit so much
>>535150805
Dilate

>>535150779
>ESL

>>535150774
>continuing to prove the point
Is this a false flag? Acting like the most stereotypically obnoxious piece of shit purist to make people hate purists? Cause people already hate purists for being fun hating cunts.

>>535150673
Trust me, I understand the concept of a reboot, spinoff, or otherwise. I simply find it to be incredibly lazy writing that is often times directly detrimental to the media, or simply inferior to actually taking whatever new ideas the writer is mulling over, and letting them stand as something completely new instead of piggybacking on what came before.

>>535150673
Kys non fan

sonic front ears dlc leeks! 100 percento realo for sureo! my buddy juan garcia snuck this pic while he was changing a lightbulb inside of segas offices

>>535150652
you can create your jp exclusive general and leave

Westfags are allowed but they have to trade all OOC depictions of game characters out.
If you like archienic you have to leave. If you like IDWnic you have to leave. If you like Movienic or Primenic you have to be reeducated and then you still have to leave.
>But won't that get rid of all of them
shhhh

>>535150652
It’s a multinational franchise, and I care. No amount of you sperging out will get rid of me, so just talk about what you like or dislike about the franchise currently or shut the fuck up.

Please stop posting the weird OOC bastardized Nicole from Archie. She doesn't look or act like that in SatAM. Thank You.

>>535151010
I honestly like Sally as a character, and think she'd make a nice foil for an IC Sonic. My gripes with pretty much every piece of side content is how it handles the original characters, rather than the new characters and ideas they try to add.

>>535150956
I mean I guess I can’t understand that.
>>535150976
Can a man not have multiple hobbies now?
>>535151010
How do you even plan on doing that? you gonna round them up or something?

>>535151062
We have to start doing this. Archiefags don't even respect the source material their comic is based on. They actually hate Nicole and Sally because the real Nicole and Sally are a daughter and mother.
Randomfox has the correct approach. Some Sonic fans need to be forced to accept that they don't like these characters. They like a spinoff version made by people who hate the creators. And we know that Penders hated Hurst and that Ian doesn't give a fuck what Hurst wanted.

If you like AOSTH you hate Sonic

>>535150852
... Nicole the Holo-Lynx is one of my very favorite StH characters specifically because she undergoes substantial character development over the course of the series. I'll let that fact speak for itself.

>>535150941
>Calls that anon autistic for wanting things to be consistent.
>I merely point out you're using an image of an Archie character
>You flip your shit because you mentally know you should be the last person to insult someone for wanting things accurate in the franchise
Looks like you're the one proving a point and not one in your favor, buddy.

Fuck Amy

When you subhumans understand that 00s Sonic is the real worthy Sonic and the games were actually good

>>535149683
That was in Another Place and ANother Time, these side ad comics were made to prevent another awful adaptation like Adventure apparently.

>>535151062
This but with Sally. SatAM Sally is actually way different from how she's portrayed in Archie.

>>535151180
Lol, what "character development"? You mean her being sad for an arc?

>>535151193
>NO U
Nah, we're not doing this. You're just a butthurt twat who's mad that everyone in the world isn't you. Stop making your fragile ego everyone else's problem.

This is a blue board. We can't post ic Sally. Sally has to be ooc by necessity.

Remember dumbasses, there is no true Scotsman. Gn /sthg/.

>>535151376
>making your fragile ego everyone else's problem
This sums up 90% of posters ITT

Will we be able to compete with Worlds??

We are going crossWorlds, after all!

We really have an anti-windfag Nicole fan who ships a pairing that only exists because Windnic forced Sonally out of Ian's hands

>>535151376
>Still flipping out.
You really should've just said nothing, but that post really called you out. You shouldn't be calling someone else's ego fragile.

>>535151383
It's perfectly in character for Sally to be visibly thirsty for her best friend. Seriously, that face. Amazing.

Post archie moments that make you laugh

>>535151376
Again, you're projecting. You by your own admission, do not like this series, and yet feel the need to attack "Sonic Fans" for liking something that you personally despise. The real question I have for you is how long you've been doing this?

>>535151492
>Above
Entirely Mario characters
>Below
Characters that are generally owned by Sega, two who Sega has no jurisdiction over at all.

>>535151521
It's an Archiefag. A majority of them hate the Wind. Usually the most uppity ones too. The few who don't are normally the most chill Archie fans.

sigh

>>535151521
The pairing exists because of Stargazing. And let's be real, even without The Wind, Sonic is a terrible partner, and that was going to end in a break regardless of any of Sega's meddling.

Liking windnic is related to liking bad gameplay.
The best games were the ones with little to no windshit.

>>535151650
I wouldn’t use this general a basis on how the majority of fans are like one way or the tone.

>>535151547
If it goes against satam it's out of character because Sally is from Satam, not Archie. Even Ian was able to admit that. He just said "fuck it" anyways. I can respect that more than pretending Archie reflects any character ever created.

I am the wind.

Who am I?

>>535151805
We are the real fans.
Jap appeal is the key to fixing Sonic

>>535151763
>The best games were the ones with little to no windshit.
...Sonic Lost World? Sonic Rise of Lyric????
>>535151727
If it wasn't for the wind, there would be no Sallicole. The wind saved your pairing.
>>535151886
Sonic

>>535151763
>Using bad gameplay as grounds to attack the characters, setting, storytelling, or vibe.
Sonic's shitty friends, right? No more humans, right?

>>535151807
That is not how multimedia works. SatAM and Archie are two different things. Your autism is a special kind of fucked up, and I will not humor it. Go fuck yourself.