Thread 535354268

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>>535354268 (OP)
that image makes me kek

>Arrive in Act 4 in POE2
>EXILE, OUR TREASURY IS AT HALF RESERVES!

>>535353026
>>535354318
disappointed its not a poe2 druid form reveal ngl
we'll probably get some kind of cat bullshit instead

>>535354243
But thats exactly WHY it's shit. Poe2 gameplay requires no thought. Builds require no thought. Pathfinder incinerate ESPECIALLY requires no thought. You literally hold right click while walking forward because you move and cast at the same time. You walk slowly through non-dangerous maps, while falling asleep because the game is so fucking dull

Prove me wrong. Post any gameplay footage of poe2 with a high number of inputs required.

poo2 losted BIGLY

>new audience because most arpg fans are millenials and aging out.
Show me 3 late-zoomer youtubers (Less than 25 years) that are playing PoE 2 right now? This is such a massive cope, Fromsoftwarefags are early zoomers, it doesn't make sense cattering your public for a "new audience" that is at same range, if they want to appeal to late zoomers go for waifus and boob physics on every single female monster.

>>535354441
>Act 4
>Normal
????????????

>>535354824
>youtubers
They're on tiktok, gramps.

poo1 lost
sleepoch lost
d4 lost
poe2 won
tq2 won
grim dawn won

What's the purpose of ritual posting?

>>535354824
its me

>>535355049
autism

>>535354741
it would be possible to have a discussion if your basis for comparison wasn't poe1. but as is I'm obviously better off just ignoring you.

>complaining about pathfinder incinerate like poe1 righteous fire never existed

I love poe 2

>>535355049
imprinting a sigil onto the noosphere

NGL, the trailer teaser gave an itch in my asshole... I think I'm 10% more hyped now.

>>535354902
I know its a hot take but I'm a crazy guy.
if you met me you'd probably get pregnant on sight.

>>535355228
actual female behaviour

poo2's Sin is such a boring character, and the poo1 version was already shit

>>535355080
that play time is photoshopped... right?...

>>535354824
poe2 is for gamer dads that boot up their console after a long day at work and clear a few campaign zones on the couch while chatting with their family
zoomers do not want poe2

>>535354441
>Normal
Where's that loonytroon who said Cruel wasn't going to be a thing in 0.3? Show yourself, the raped.

>>535354441
>ding ding!
>OH GOD ITS 3AM I WAS ABOUT TO LOG OFF

>>535355157
you're the one comparing the game to poe1 not me. Im judging poe2 on its' own merits. Maybe take the splinter out of your own eye?

>>535355080
Damn bro, you're mogging my playtime.

oh boy its time for the most boring 14 hours of leveling any game has to offer to then be treated to endless atlas

cant wait

>>535355363
a female would keep playing poe2 until she can monkey-branch to another arpg but I stopped playing poe2 months ago without going back to poe1 either

>>535355517
I'm assuming it'll go act 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > c2 > c3 so that the current setup of us being stuck in the refuge is retained.

if GGG add all 3 remaining acts for 0.3 they are stupid, the playerbase has no memory and will go back to complaining about lack of new things within a month.

>>535355517
retard

>>535355647
Bro, jonathan is giving everyone a loli companion to make the campaign more fun.

painfully mid

YOU WILL PLAY MY GAME, ANON

>>535354824
you'd have rejected any attempts to innovate.

kneel

>>535355796
You are raped

>>535356003
my KANG

>>535355647
>14 hours
I wish the campaign was that short. actually I wish there was an alternative way to level like every other rpg and mmo has had for the past decade or so

>>535356107
retard

>>535355628
oh I get it you, were comparing PoE2 to the complete works of Shakespeare. well okay then, those do require more thought. but then again they also aren't an ARPG so its not very meaningful to make that comparison.

>>535355647
dude which ARPG are you talking about? you could be describing any of them.

>>535356235
I was making a descriptive statement. It wasn't a comparison to anything. You get nothing because you are a charlatan

If Smokie's not playing, I'm not.
simple as

>>535356385
you were stating an opinion devoid of context because doing so sounded assertive in your head.

>mom carrots are shit! post gameplay footage of any other vegetable that is more orange than them!

>>535356562
she WILL be in act 4 and she WILL be purchasable as a decorative hideout feature for as little as $100!

poo2
HUGE STINK

>>535356594
this is called a no true scotsman fallacy. The claim is that my complaints couldn't possibly be valid unless I come up with a game that specifically demonstrates poe2 lacks those qualities. But you'll just make some statement like "that game doesn't count", "those claims aren't specific enough", "your just comparing it to poe1". Never addressing the complaints in good faith, always pretending they don't apply.

Essentially, you're a nigger.

>>535355773
On the other hand, cruel 1-3 is so disliked that unless what we play through is a mashup with no plot of a bunch of stuff, it'll be pretty unpopular simply having to play through 2 and 3 again. Acts 4-6 is the safer push I think and requires less retooling. Alternatively, just making mapping better/have more early level scaling can be enough. I expect a new pinnacle boss in TOTA but I don't expect new atlas pinnacles until full release

>>535356874
retard

>>535355157
oh god imagine if you had to walk forward OR hold right click to cast incinerate! that would be so much smarter and deeper a gameplay experience!! fix your game Jonathan?!?!

>>535356771
>the Delve Abyssal City
POOGGGGGGING!!!!!!!

>>535356771
I TOLD YOU FAGS IT WAS ABYSS I TOLD YOU I FUCKING TOLD YOU

>>535356771
>Abyss shit
>TOTA
>Act 4 (maybe more)
>minimum druid, possibly druid + shadow
That's a lot more content than I was expecting

>>535356959
i accept your concession

>>535357046
I can't wait for sirgog to shit himself to death on the toilet like elvis presley

Abyss league is kinda mid though
>touch poopy hole
>follow poopy hole
That's it

>9 Explore Ngatoto Island
>You have arrived at Ngatoto Island. Explore it in search of one of the weapon pieces.
>10 Enter Singing Caverns
>You have found the Singing Caverns. It may contain one of the weapon pieces.
>11 Explore Singing Caverns
>You have found the Singing Caverns. Explore it in search of the first piece of the weapon.
>12 Defeat Diamora, Song of Death
>Diamora, Song of Death seems to have a piece of the weapon embedded in her. Defeat her to claim the first piece of the weapon.

>>535357470
might be reworked. It's pretty old so it wouldn't surprise me if it's maybe a mix of Delve and Abyss

>>535356902
they're going to do what makes the most money, and spreading out the remaining acts does that more effectively.

spending tens of millions on convention promotion is what brings in normies, not the difference between releasing 1 more act and 3 more acts.

I don't think they'll space out 5 and 6 because I vaguely remember there being a cliffhanger at the end of 5 and 6 is short. but remember we're also getting a whole new trial mechanic that will be farmable in the endgame. even just act 4 is a lot of shit.

abyss is fucking dogshit theres no way they copy it to poe2
if youre going to copy poe1 at least take the good mechanics

>>535357592
>filler
>filler
>filler
>you found ONE weapon piece

>>535356771
agent please...

>>535355517
there's not going to be cruel acts starting with 0.3
screenshot this

>>535357470
perhaps but history has shown the simpler leagues are more profitable to GGG and have better retention

>>535357832
its not about simple vs complex, its about fun vs boring. you tell me which one abyss is

>>535357131
actually I didn't write >>535356959

and you ending your post with nigger is just as much of a concession as saying "retard". you're too delusional to recognize that you're using the same fallacies you're attempting to criticize.

>unless I come up with a game that specifically demonstrates poe2 lacks those qualities

saying something doesn't require thought doesn't mean anything unless you have a superior alternative to propose. its like saying Shakespeare is boring, boring compared to what? it's just an ad hominem like ending your post witht "Essentially you're a nigger" and imagining you successfully came off as clever.

>abyss
LOL

>>535358148
trvke

>>535358148
drbt (didnt read but trvke)

>abyss
>non crafting
lmaoing at poop2ers

>>535357992
>its not about black vs white, its about loud vs quiet

good stuff anon keep the insights coming.

>>535358265
retard

>>535358250
stealing this

I guaranfuckingtee they picked Abyss because of how many videos there have been about Abyss being rewarding in PoE1 recently
get all the gupta going SAARS THIS LEAGUE BIGLY NUMBER WON FARM

>>535356771
OHHHHH MY GOOOOOOOOODDDDD

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>535358148
Insulting someone after posting a substantive argument isn't a fallacy. It's called rhetoric

You. Fucking. Nigger.

>>535358505
retard

>>535358309
i dont know what you are trying to say
compare abyss to affliction for example. both very simple. you kill monsters you get loot. but affliction is challenging and rewarding (fun) while abyss is time gated and unrewarding (boring). its not good

>>535358505
you just insulted the game (lol) by calling it dumb then followed up with another insult. it's the only thing you've got apparently.

>>535358148
except you already excluded me using poe1 as an example hence the no true scotsman fallacy.

and

>saying "x" doesn't mean "x" unless you have an alternative to propose
This is a type of equivocation. you're saying a word can't have a definition unless you have an example of that definition. You can argue the degree of slowness if you like. Or the degree of thought required. But I am under no obligation to prove the specific degree of thought required for anything because there's no specific threshold for "good" when considering how engaging a game is. You're just couching all your arguments in semantics

>>535358792
I enjoyed both and subjectively disagree
plus you're assuming GGG will just port it without any upgrades or reworks.

>>535358463
they picked it because it was picked a long time ago to be released for 0.3.
why do retards think that things like this can just be put in a game a few weeks before the patch goes live? these things take months and months. abyss was coming in 0.3 before EA launch, we just didn't know it.
this reminds me of youtubeniggers spamming their shit videos 2 weeks in advance of 0.3 launch with "things that need to be in 0.3". nigger that ship has sailed.

>>535358921
tfw two intelligent: the post

>>535357992
abyss is fun, but whether it's fun or not is overly subjective and not as relevant as you think. the reason I framed my statement the way I did is because it really boils down to reward vs effort. another thing to keep in mind the new league won't just be abyss and nothing else, so even if abyss is mid there should hopefully be other new content to make the overall league worth playing.

>>535358983
retard

>>535358921
you're using the form of rhetoric to express a subjective viewpoint while failing to recognize the subjectivity. it would be simpler to just go POOP OF EXILE 2

IT'S UP
https://youtu.be/gP2kcdH-D38

>>535359071
>>535357992
the good thiing about abyss is that the jewels currently in the game aren't interesting enough AND ALSO people are complaining about the belt slot being shit. porting the abyssal jewel and stygian vise options to this game solves both issues.

>>535359350
I COULD objectify it but you pre hocced the quintessential argument for it which is its' predecessor. Essentially shielding yourself from having to deal with the argument at all. Again, No true scotsman.

But we could address the game speed in terms of reaction time required, number of inputs required and objectify these things if we wanted. Arguing whether you like the slowness or not is irrelevant. We can objectively determine that poe2 is a game that requires a low number of inputs from the player, and thus less decision making than games like RTS, arena shooters, boomer shooters, Poe1, or other input heavy games with split-second decision making.

This is absolutely objective, and I won't let you get away with saying it's not. You just have a preference for games which require a low number of inputs, which is fine, but doesn't address the substance of my argument.

what if they revisited failed league mechanics and tried to make them work instead of directly copying over the ones that went core?

>>535359703
Thank you ChatGTP!

>>535359859
what if they made a sequel that stood on its' own merits instead

reminder that the reason poo2 has fuck all content is because they've been working on the chinese edition. They are presenting it on 24th

>>535359859
what if last epoch 1.3 > poe2 0.3

>>535359926
lets not get too far ahead of ourselves

>>535359642
It doesn't solve belt slot being shit, you'll just be forced to use vise, until bis unique belt (not that poe1 is different there lol)

>>535359881
Sorry about your low IQ but if you think that post is AI you have problems. Your grade school teachers failed you.

>>535359703
we could do that, it probably makes a difference that my perspective was playing both leagues as full evasion in ssf with a personally made Shockchain build that GGG slowly buffed to being viable while also nerfing monster slams so I didn't get one-shot as much by white mobs jumping on me from offscreen. while I'm sure you were doing some kind of ES Lightning Spear build in trade league having copied the meta and going "omg why is playing this overbuffed skill so boring I barely have to think why is this being inflicted on me ugggh".

I'm not saying that's what happened but details make an argument more substantive.

>>535359703
>number of inputs required
>implying smart games requre more inputs and faster reaction time

how did you know I also play SC2

poo2 be like

In 0.3 we are introducing......a poe1 league!!!

>>535360154
>socketable item

ummm actually thats a "crafting mechanic"

I can't wait for 0.4 when they introduce the brand new "Archnemesis" mechanic

doomBARONS, it's almost feasting time
https://streamable.com/xaz4tw

>>535360215
I've only ever played titan in poe2 since the other classes never interested me. The game was slow and uneventful except for maybe some highlight moments during campaign think I died once to Jamanra and then again a difficulty spike in act 3 vaal city was hard and i actually needed to kite from the eye of winter mobs. Beyond that, mapping was trivial, and the moment you equip pork ring and herald of ice, even after the nerfs, the game becomes a complete joke. End game bosses are just a dps race on hp classes since you can't tank anything, but they don't require near as much situational awareness as poe1. Poe1 tends to be bullet hellish, whereas 2 has clear telegraphs and a lot of boss opening where the bosses seemingly do nothing. It almost feels like a childs game. I can't believe people had a hard time with it at all. I think they were all noobs. I also played a fart explode build with those boots but got tremendously bored because it was a complete walking simulator. It was like RF with no mvspd or shield charge. The game only held my interest in acts 1 and 3

>we made poe2 because we wanted to make a different kind of game
>port literally every single league and end game system from poe1 to poe2 but made worse
how do you do this and pretend to be normal

>>535355846
many are wanting this

>>535360379
>>implying smart games requre more inputs and faster reaction time
I'm not implying it, I'm ascerting it because it's objectively true. IQ is a measure of how quickly a mind can learn something given a novel stimulus. Games in general always present novel stimuli if designed correctly, always asking the player to respond to a new idea or pattern in the spur of the moment. Being good at hand eye coordination and reaction time is a proxy for IQ

>>535360912
>uuuh we made poo2 because poo1 has to much bloat
>proceed to import everything from poo1

>>535357592
>23 Explore Izaro's Prison
>You have arrived at Izaro's Prison. Explore it in search of one of the weapon pieces.
>24 Enter Solitary Confinement
>You have found Solitary Confinement. It may contain one of the weapon pieces.
>25 Explore Solitary Confinement
>You have found Solitary Confinement. Explore it in search of one of the weapon pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQ-kLOsZss
What the actual FUCK? Eagon is Valdo that was time-kidnapped by Alva to the current year? To what point? What the actual fuck, this lore is INSANE!

>>535360758
look at this clip here, steelmage is so underwhelmed by the games challenge, he has to swipe his mouse to make his character dance to keep his brain from falling asleep.

How is this not objectively a low input, low IQ game?

>>535361125
retard

>>535361125
>chess isn't smart because it doesn't require fast reaction times

R
E
T
A
R
D

>>535360912
i-its early access... just let them cook... please...

>>535361194
>import

it would be funny if they directly reused the assets like they did with the Veridian Wildwood unique map. they won't, but it would be funny if they did.

>>535361398
let them cook

>>535361398
>Judging a game that's not even out yet

>>535361398
isn't that clip from early last league where HC players had to level ultra-slowly because there were no drops?
and that was because GGG was doing a sneaky econ rebalance to rework how rarity works. pretty specific situation.

>>535361937
>another 6 years in the oven chef

>>535360912
>make everything worse
>sell the solution at the long time
Jonathan is thinking in the grand scheme of a GaaS, if PoE2 is just PoE1 with better combat whats the point of both games existing? So they need to make PoE2 better at a slow pace while testing waters on new things in PoE 1.

>>535361475
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this, but you're a midwit

>>535362094
retard

>>535361668
Have you ever watched a fucking chess game you idiot? Do professional chess players make moves slowly or quickly?

Face it, they made a version of poe1 that appeals to the midwit arpg fan

>posts le ai summary
>calls someone a midwit
lol

>>535362041
>if PoE2 is just PoE1 with better combat whats the point of both games existing
because a lot of players (and many of them post here) didn't really want better combat, they want to switch off and watch netflix while monsters exploded instantly as they clicked one button.
GGG don't seem to have anticipated this because they foolishly bought into their own "poe1 is hard, poe1 players are hardcore gamers" reputation but at least they are still making poe1 content for you guys.

>>535362257
professional chess players in important tournaments take fucking ages once they get past the solved openings they've memorized. have you never watched televized chess?

the poo2 player base is anxious for 0.3

>>535362257
>twitchbrained zoomtard thinks all of chess is blitz
embarrassing post

>>535362094
there is also a correlation between having a cock and IQ. this is why all games should have big flappy cocks onscreen at all times.
>tfw can't find full frontal google image of auric colossus

poe2 combat feels like shit
>attack once
>entire screen + 1 screen away explodes
>slowly walk to the next pack

>>535363252
retard

0.3.

He fucking told you it was going to be a gigapatch. Yet you didnt listen.

>>535363317
darth midge

>>535363329
DAMN divinia looks like that??

Are there any maps that always spawn the merc near the start?

>>535363252
trVke

>>535363317
>druid
>act 4
>3rd ascension mechanic
>abyss
it's quite a lot but it's not fucking crazytimes.
the last two having endgame bosses is the best part.

I'm not going to play druid as GGG will 100% make it OP after Huntress taught them not to make a hero too difficult on release.

>>535362839
are chess games timed or not?

poop status?

>>535363726
retard

>>535363252
this

>>535363681
>>druid
>>act 4
>>3rd ascension mechanic
>>abyss
i have a strong feeling that all of these will be ass

>>535363317
its delve or abyss right?

shart microtransactions

>>535363796
lmao concession accepted, again

>>535364007
retard

shut the fuck up niggers

>>535364045
so why are they timed?

>>535363864
>delve
are you a retard

Bros, the abyss is the green worm thingy you follow in PoE1 to get some weird gem? Is there more to that?
t. PoE2 baby

>>535364275
yes it is and no there is not more to it than that. you really just follow the worm for a bit and then get a gem

>>535364272
there is abyss cities in delve are you new?

>>535364275
some of them lead to a hole in the ground at the end that leads to a minidungeon with a boss. both of the poe1 bosses were bad so this is a good area for improvement.

>>535364407
akshually sometimes it leads to a boss arena

>>535364451
so you are retard

>>535364467
yeah and the boss fucking sucks

abyssmaballs

>>535364535
notice how you say retard but not that im wrong

>>535364225
ask google retard

>>535364680
YOU'RE A RETARD

>>535364458
>>535364407
Cool, thanks. I hope they add delve too, I really fucking liked that in PoE1...

>>535364750
sleepy kot

>0.3 the third edict
more like
>0.3 the third patch without crafting
lmaoing at you plop

>>535364645
let him cook

>>535364645
they're better bosses than catarina and atziri

YOU waited 4 months for more rehashed pooe1 shit

Why does pooe2 even exist if it's adding nothing new

>>535363329
>gets married
>viewer count drops off a cliff

>>535364892
don't talk shit about my waifus again

>>535364873
ummm socketable items ARE CRAFTING anon! get used to it, Jonathan controls the definitions!

>>535364892
I'd be fine with atziri if you didn't have to waste time on the mini bosses, especially the vessels of the vaal niggers

>>535364892
i didnt even realize there were 2 abyss bosses
honestly catarina is a pretty good fight if you remove all the retarded stalling like theres some good mechanics in it

>>535364720
No I asked you. Give me a plausible explanation as to why chess would need to be timed

>>535360912
trvke

>>535365229
her loot is also mostly worthless
the only reason she is ran is because she's needed for the feared

>>535364874
he looks like his genetic makeup needed to cook a bit longer but not as nearly as underbaked as jonathan's

>>535365542
>Give me a plausible explanation as to why chess would need to be timed
Organizers of chess tournaments need to make sure that matches actually finish.
If the matches weren't timed then someone could just sit on their turn for hours until the other guy gets sick of it and forfeits just so he can go to bed
>>535365630
pyromancer's meltdowns never stop being funny

>>535365630
not really to be honest
im team frogmode

>>535364874
Check his linkedin, he left GGG in July.

>>535365893
thank god
mark rogers was a blight upon the company

>>535365893
so poe2 is extra dead?

>>535365893
i know youre trolling but i want to believe that fat fucking frog is gone

>>535365956
>mark rogers
oh him and jonathan are related? i didn't know

>>535366075
hes one of the few competent people at ggg
him and that guy (or those guys) doing the audio are carrying the entire company

>>535366336
>mark "one shot" roberts
>mark "invincibility phases" roberts
>mark "parry" roberts
>competent

havent had a seer spawn in 4 days
:\
:(

>>535366336
>the guy who invented towers and quadrupled down on them is the one carrying ggg
you're so retarded that I don't even wanna call you a nigger

>>535363317
FUARK
On behalf of all PoE1 players I KNEEL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCsePR8XLhg

how is this guy playing titan but has a third ring slot?

>>535366526
>>535366628
frogmode did none of those things he wouldnt do that

>>535366331
jonny adopted him last year

>>535366728
retard

>>535366675
>trannime avatar
>is retarded
the jokes write themselves

>>535365751
so the speed of play has nothing to do with competition eh?

>>535366675
>click video
>fast forward
>see 1 (one) single slow as fuck shield charge animation
>close video
cringe

I fear for the doomers, bros. I'm afraid the 0.3 reveal will do lasting damage to them.

They build their whole identity around hating PoE2, how will they cope when the patch cements it as the better, more popular version of PoE?

>>535367404
trvke

>>535366675
soulless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfgzfeAddEA
soul

>>535367404
They will just quietly switch camps are start shitting on PoE.

>target lock mode
>doesn't lock target
gay

no seriously i dont know why he has a third ring slot as a titan

The true endgame of PoE2 (farming t16 juiced maps and farming simulacrums) is fun? I tried three times (0.1 trade, 0.2 trade and SSF 0.2) to play the game till the endgame but I get bored before reaching Tier 10 maps, is the endgame worth the grind or have I already seen all fun content on PoE2 so far?

Did Quin69 react to the news yet? What about ruecat?

>>535368149
rue is LE CAT xD

>>535368083
you have seen all the fun content once you make it to act 2

whew big new league and y'alls trailer can't even hit 20k views

>>535368083
no a lot of players play every league and map for a while then quit, its not even an illegit way to play.
but poe2 also has fewer endgame mechanics to farm and that could be making a difference.

Uhh... anything to be excited about now? Didn't even play TLI's new season since I'm burnt out on Arrpigs.

>>535368149
it's up
https://streamable.com/thwex6

>>535368440
no

Wolcen won

>>535368440
pog in 1 week

>>535368440
Torchlight Infinite, the gacha mobile game

>>535368629
TRVKE

>>535368457
I hate PoE fags so much.

>OMG WHY IS THIS GAME SO SLOW I WANT TO KILL SHIT FAST
>OMG NOW THIS GAME IS JUST AS FAST AS POE WTF GGG

>OMG IM GETTING NO LOOT BUFF THE DROPS GGG
>WOW WTF WHY IS EVERYTHING INFLATED IN PRICE???

>OMG THESE BOSSES ARE WAY TOO FUCKING HARD NERF THEM GGG
>WOW THESE BOSSES NOT CHALLENGING WTF

GGG should 100% unironically stop listening to people completely. Normalfags deserve no say in game designs, and neither do streamfags who play for 20 hours every day.

>>535368629
big time
>>535369091
shut the fuck up sissy

>>535368457
zased

>>535369091
>OMG NOW THIS GAME IS JUST AS FAST AS POE WTF GGG
literally no one has ever said this

>>535369186
People cried their ass off for like 2 months straight over LS clearspeed.

>>535369091
>>OMG NOW THIS GAME IS JUST AS FAST AS POE WTF GGG
No one says this.
>Look at thi-
Those people aren't human.
>L-look at this web-
You are not human.

>>535369360
brvtal

>>535369091
THERMOBARIC TRVTH PAYLOAD

>>535369091
this but unironically

>>535364892
Aul moggs all of them

>>535368297
Where is the connection between Kulemark and abyss? This might as well turn into delve 2.0 endless dungeon edition.

>>535369350
If you think that the clearspeed was the issue then you really need to re-evaluate the situation. Reminder
>46%

>>535369513
what the heck are you talking about

just let go, bros...
we had our fun

>>535369091
you are right
on launch the game was pretty shit but it was actually trying to be something different than poe1
in a year from now its just going to be poe1 with a graphics update

>>535369091
Based

>>535369630
it's okay poo2bro

>>535369091
trvkie

>>535369504
never fought aul because delve is SHIT

>>535369091
>GGG should 100% unironically stop listening to people completely
they literally already have and are really just doing stuff as PR management. they have a data guy to tell them when there are serious fires they have to put out. what people do > what they say.

>>535369594
People came to the conclusion it's abyss, but the name of the trailer has no connection to it

>ice nova doesn't deal extra damage when cast on frostbolt
>casting it on frostbolt is clunky with base cast speed and misses because you cast it to slow
>it is a dps decrease to use frost bolt with it
what were they thinking with this?

People complain about people but complaining, but as long as I've been playing, the complaints were at least associated with the times the game really was bad, and when its good people don't.

ill be working on challenges in ssf and playing last epoch instead of playing zero point three

>>535369091
HOLY

>>535369843
abyss is connected to catarina based on her uber fight soooooo

>>535359703
nah dog my APM during POE2 is way higher than POE1, sure you can make one button builds but non meta stuff REALLY needs more buttons to be pushed to debuff for the payoff skills to deal any real damage

>>535369942
Name 2 (two) (dos) good leagues and people WILL complain about them.

>>535369836
what are you talking about? poe2s entire patch history is kneejerk reactions to reddit and streamers crying

>>535369690
its easy to doomer but actually all the changes have been targeted and nuanced.
e.g. they carefully figured out why the mobs in act 1 were too swarmy and why act 3 areas were too large, they didn't just panic nerf them.
the rarity rework was another huge growing pain that seems to have justified itself in retrospect.
I believe there should be happy mediums for lots of the issues.

>>535369630
anby plays poe2????? kino

>>535370115
Rarity applying to currency is a huge mistake that literally everyone could have seen coming and yet they still put it in the game
the devs are retards

>>535370115
>they carefully figured out why the mobs in act 1
wow they did something a goldfish has the capacity to figure out

>>535370076
no, they just have to sell them like that. they don't change course randomly.

>>535370115
trvke

here's my high APM poo2 build I was talking about btw

>>535370259
>>535370115
did you forget about them hotfix nerfing the hp of every monster in game by 25% (in a comically stupid way but that is irrelevant)

>>535370194
yet they haven't reverted the change. so I guess the issue was about HOW it needed to apply.
they use us as guinea pigs but it lets them get it right.

why are 2tards so obsessed with what PoE gods think about their game?

>>535370367
Am I the only one who would like it if the entire game would play at this speed? Fuck zoom shit, I would like top down Dark Souls with PoE gear/skills.

>>535370367
surely the person who added this to the game quit out of embarrassment

>>535370367
>look at the meme streamer who plays meme builds to bait tts donos from kids
kind of lost whatever argument you thought you were making by posting quin

>>535370501
>it lets them get it right
Can't wait for them to "get it right" in 2028

>>535370471
they came up with 25% after getting data from us trying to struggle through the campaign. it was about how monster hp scaled up to endgame.
if you thought they just picked a number you missed the whole point of why the campaign was too difficult at launch: they made it too hard to find out how much to nerf it by.
no other developer would have the balls to pull that shit but in the long term it pays off.

>>535370043
name the skills

>>535370367
yeah yeah yeah, but poe2 is like a burger without a patty

>>535370367
Someone thought this was a good idea. Someone thought that spending 5 seconds to get a minor buff to 2 of your next attacks was a good idea.
>>535370624
Seems like a fine idea and I'm certain there's already games built around that, but that's not really how PoE works with all that triggershit it has.

>>535370624
go play Grim Dawn

>>535370624
only subhumans think like that

>>535370624
you'd need to build the game around that and make maps a tenth of the size
no rest for the wicked gets a lot of flak but it's honestly a really good example of what you're talking about

>>535370650
unfortunately it's not a meme. Smith of kitava really do be like that.

>>535370367
CLANG CLANG CLANG
BONK
CLANG CLANG CLANG
BONK
DODGE ROLL
CLANG CL
DODGE ROLL
DODGE ROLL
CLANG CLANG CLANG
BONK

>>535370669
it took them like 7 years to get scarabs figured out, 3 or 4 to work out the atlas passive tree.
i would rather constant iteration until they get it right over some slop like d4s color swapped mechanics or whatever last epoch spent the last 6 years doing.

>>535370650
>poo2turd who didn't even play the class wants to lecture anyone
this is why doomLORDS keep on winning

>>535370816
meant to>>535370162

poo1 lost
sleepoch lost
d4 lost
poe2 won
tq2 won
grim dawn won

>>535370650
It's not a meme build by some meme streamer, that's genuinely how Smith used to play. I mean of course you can definitely just abandon CLANGING but that's just sidestepping the issue. I think Mathil just went for a retal build of sorts?

>>535371123
I would rather they look at what worked and didn't work in PoE1 and apply those lessons to PoE2 instead of making the same mistakes over and over again because they're retarded
But we can't always get what we want.

btw if 0.3 fails tencent will replace jonathan and we WILL get fat anime tits and gacha pulls

>>535371329
>Might get floating ghost loli familiar
This is bad how?

>>535370839
>Temper Weapon
they changed it so hitting the anvil also does AoE fire damage -- i.e. it's a fire spell that does damage and also buffs your next attacks. not tested it though.

>>535371373
I want auto-loot pets

>>535371421
it's still awful

need thos freaks Jonathan and Mark to resign

>>535371252
except they wanted to make poe2 meaningfully different. so obviously the problems are going to be different too.

e.g. the 0.2 launch shitfest happened because they knew poe1 lootsplosions of 5000 items were a problem and wanted to drop fewer better items. so the solution was for rarity to do more. but finetuning it was always going to require actual data becasue you can't just totally rework a drop system by pulling numbers out of your ass.

if you actually cared more about game design perhaps you'd care about the process instead of whining about the inevitable bumps in the road.

>>535371183
>It's not a meme build by some meme streamer

>>535371123
it took 7 years for Blizzad to realize that starting with 6 workers was making SC2's early game too slow.

GGG are fucking lightning fast in comparison. the difference is that BEFORE scarabs GGG already had a workable yet less well-designed system. but that system has to change to be improved and so you people always whine about the thing you're familiar with being taken away.

>>535371857
hes fully embracing being a living shitpost now is he?

>>535370624
You'd play the game once and never again.

>>535371539
isn't that whole ascendency balanced for SSF? the skills are only meant to be used once you have completely transcended the need to skill the nodes which mod your chest armour.

but oh wait that's more complicated than it just being an ascendency that gives you EHP and DPS I guess it shouldn't be in the game at all should it brainlet.

>>535372000
>it took 7 years for Blizzad to realize that starting with 6 workers was making SC2's early game too slow.
Reminds me that Jonathan only realised that having no one developing PoE1 would mean that no PoE1 league would be made after like a year. He truly is a genius.

>>535372000
how am i whining by saying i prefer their iterative design process?

>>535371805
Do you work for GGG?

>>535372090
not him but I only came back to poe1 for ruthless mode.

its pretty clear smith of kitava needs templar to be in game for its fire spell on hit (to be used with high attack speed flails) to function

>>535372183
Nothing in the game is balanced around SSF.
It's an optional hard mode.

>>535372480
retard

poe + pokemon + fortnite

>>535372412
>fast attack
>buff falls off even quicker
>have to CLANG more often
nah

>>535372628
Would love a Pokémon autobattle with PoE system.

>>535372628
Uhhh... Palworld? That's just Palworld.

>>535372642
>fire spell on hit
>CLANG
another doomsissy that couldnt afford a 30$ key, anvil is different node from the fire spell on hit
retard

>>535371497
there's nothing to loot in poo2 THOUGH

>>535372786
suck my banchode

>>535369750
Had to get my noggin joggin to remember but is he that delve boss that has two phases and one of them just does the Iron Man beam or something?

>>535372717
what poe elements does palworld have besides having xp
which isnt even a poe specific thing

I honestly think I'll leaguestart ED Lich (if it's not nerfed) regardless of what new classes come out. In 0.2 it was so giga smooth to hit t15s/pinnacle farming.

>>535373190
leaguestarting lich in both pok and poe would be pure cinema

>>535372329
no I can look at what they do and make basic deductive assumptions.

you may remember that one issue in 0.1 was that all the monsters in endgame were too easy to kill. GGG literally raised all the HP of all monsters to where they thought endgame needed to be, then let us play from level 1 against that amount of hp to find out how to taper the increase.

we're also at the point where players have literally forgotten explanations for poe2 features that ggg told them in 2023-24. so you get zizaran asking retarded questions in interviews about why more raw % life isn't on the tree that were fully explained during the initial reveal of the poe 2 tree. lots of stuff like that.

>>535373190
If anything they should buff Lich, pretty much every Lich switched to BM later in the league.

>>535373334
The life question is legitimate considering how bad it is compared to energy shield, and how energy shield has ridiculous modifiers on the tree.
Energy shield is also something that they could look at PoE1 and see the numerous problems to fix, but instead of fixing it they just made them 10x worse in PoE2.
Hence my point earlier: the devs are retarded.

>>535372480
its an ssf ascendency. there's no reason to play it if you can buy gear and get all the bonuses it gives you on your non-magical chest armour without spending ascendency points. you ought to literally have looked at the nodes and gone "oh this is for ssf".

>>535373652
The game is not balanced for SSF, stupid.

>>535373334
>reddit spacing
>bootlicking this hard
Go back.

>>535373190
I really wanted to enjoy it but monsters turning purple and then dying just didn't have enough oomf for me. so be aware of that.

>>535373852
hes right chudbeit

>>535373852
>2025
>he STILL doesn't know what reddit spacing is
holy newfag

>>535373905
>turning purple and then dying

Just get pic related.

>>535372786
What fire spell are you even thinking of? Cremation? That would be shit on a trigger because you need to slam around it for it to do damage. The ascendancy is just I'll conceived garbage like everything else in poe2. Isn't there a long ass cool down on the trigger as well? Or were people meming on it because mace strike has no attack speed I forget.

Either way it's a failure of design

>>535374310
retard

>>535373334
It's not that we don't remember the explanations, it's just that we think Jonathan is a fucking retard

>>535373625
they clearly thought ES not recharging for 8 seconds without damage would be more of a drawback.
remember that originally we weren't even going to be able to log out of fights -- which would have made slowly losing your ES and not being able to recharge more scary. but the technical problems made it not worth it so ES is automatically just a way you can have lots of EHP to avoid oneshots.

>>535373652
It gives max res just like chieftain. Its chieftain at home

>>535373826
putting stuff in that's only useful for ssf isn't the same as balancing the game around ssf.

>>535374480
>remember that originally we weren't even going to be able to log out of fights
That's an irrelevant point considering the length of time since that changed. GGG has had almost a year to attempt to balance ES and they've done jack shit....
...because they're retarded

>>535371497
auto loot pets or a global loot keybind are not good for the game
i mean they would be fine in poe2 because the game is so slow and theres so little loot that it doesnt really matter anyway but in poe1 it would be devastating

>theres so little loot
theres literally too much loot

>>535374882
balance what? there is nothing wrong with it, in either game.

>>535374920
Bad how? The market would be flooded with alts that the poor bots loot by the dozens anyway?

>>535374627
you can keep respecing the ascendencty based on the currents strengths / weaknesses of your items. not really as worthwhile if you can just search poetrade for items with +lightning resistence.

>>535374920
>but in poe1 it would be devastating
Dunno where it was, but recently I heard that 1 div is something absurd like 20k chaos on the chinese server.

Games too slow
Movement speed
Animation speed
Tree is shit
Ascendancy is shit
Sanctum a shit
Ultimatum a shit
Maps a shit
Items a shit
Uniques a shit
Runes a shit

Why does poe2 exist

>>535374882
its actually possible that their data says it isn't that unbalanced. it just feels safer to have 10k shield than 3k life and 70% evade chance.

>>535375235
retard

I still remember retards coping that "PoE2 will be just as fast as 1, it's just the campaign that they are showing on trailers"

>>535357814
the entire campaign is filler you stupid nigger
and all of the endgame for that matter

Do minions still trigger the revive timer if they go too far away from the player I know they fixed them getting stuck in doors or whatever but it was making them trigger revive to teleport instead of convocate. probably won't ever play minions again in that shit game unless that's changed

>>535375254
>i-it's just the players fault!!!!!!
>armor is totally good guys trust me!!!!!!!

>>535375354
I don't remember that.

>>535375354
>i remember people saying a thing that ended up being true

>>535375489
this but unironically

>>535375486
Yes they still despawn if you move too far away
No they did not fix door pathing

>>535375235
TRVKIENVKIE

>>535375563
Maybe you should try actually playing past act 3 of PoE1.

>>535375489
kek I intentionally didn't mention armour
I also didn't mention how scary slams are to an EV/life build.

>>535375616
Jesus fuck

POE2GODS ARE COMING BACK

POONIGGERS ARE LOSING THE NARRATIVE

>>535375486
why is that a problem?

>>535375767
Any peak calls yet? Or did people stop doing that for no reason whatsoever.

>>535375675
retard

>>535375867
0.1 had a 5 year plus hype cycle and it was holiday season, so it's gonna be hard to beat that. But I think 400k is realistic.

>>535375675
what was the meta farm in 3.26 again? ohhh right 10 minute long maps walking behind abyss cracks.
now you cope that you can actually run through the strand in 1 minute. then someone will post a similar clear in poe2 and you will say 'well it's not fair!'
so ye have fun with your 0.3 meltdown.

the new trailer is betrayal and veiled mods

>>535375831
Because it's fucking annoying and creates jarring moments in gameplay where your minions are no longer dealing damage so you walk around in circles waiting for the revive timer. Generally action rpgs are supposed to have constant movement or require constant inputs. Having a lag in the action when it's unintended means it breaks immersion. You are supposed to feel constant tension while mapping/killing so that completing a map feels good and going back to the hideout is a necessary break in the loop. Having the loop constantly broken by bad pacing in the combat means there's a constant melancholy to the game feel instead of a necessary reprieve after the action concludes

POE1 lost bigly
Zaccie gooned too hard

/ourguy/ has spoken

>>535375867

I'm willing to bet $1000 that 0.3 won't purpass 3.26

>>535376128
>You are supposed to feel constant tension while mapping/killing
really? while playing minions?
I thought the whole point of minions was to experience zero tension.

>>535376280
retard

>>535375073
manual looting effectively means theres diminishing returns on player strength. if you kill 10x as many monsters in the same timeframe you dont get 10x as much loot because you need to spend a constant amount of time picking it up.
with autoloot there needs to be some other limiting factors. tli for example has a hard cap on damage so you cant get too much of an advantage by doing hard content more quickly. it also spawns monsters at a very slow rate so if you have a character that blinks through the map in like 10 seconds you end up killing zero monsters because they arent spawned in yet lol. meanwhile in poe you spend half of your time hovering belts if youre farming exiles (yes thats why its a thing) and if you flicker through the map you get no loot because you have to pick it up by hand

>>535376379
yeah you are LOL

>>535376378
The tension is from the noose as they keep themselves from roping with how boring minions gameplay is.

>>535376378
You'd be wrong

From the scale and quality of hype activities, 0.3.0 is absolutely the most important update of the year

>>535376192
hard as FUCK xeet

>>535376554
>how boring minion gameplay is
True for a lot of playstyles in poe2

>>535376554
>The tension is from the noose as they keep themselves from roping with how boring poe2 gameplay is.
fixed that for you little gupta

poo1 lost
sleepoch lost
d4 lost
poe2 won
tq2 won
grim dawn won

3.26, after 11 months of "hype" only hit 178k. 0.3 will have more players than that a week after launch.

>>535370807
for my blood mage crossbow build I push
Gas grenade
oil grenade
high velocity round
plague bearer
snipers mark
requiem from last lament
and Plasma blast when the bosses are stunned

For my not so good smith of kitava build
Whirling slash a lot
then twister which is most of my damage
I use active block a lot for magma shield
shield charge of course
CLANG
Infernal Cry
Shield wall when I need some breathing space
spear of solaris on stunned bosses
and Sunder on stuff with no armour

I recently started a Tactician
war banner and the defense banner with armour evasion pretty much every 5 seconds, I have that chest piece that lets you use multiple, you can have the 3rd one active as well but it's dogshit
Earthsatter is on a totem so summoning 2 of those very often
seismic cry once there are a few shatter things out
rolling slam to stun and hurt beefy things
and shockwave totem to do more with the rolling slam jagged grounds

Those are the 3 builds I've enjoyed playing the most bloodmage with crossbow is easily the strongest and smoothest though, the other 2 you have to put way more work in and positioning is too important for the tactician as it's 2 handed mace without giants blood, I'm stun maxxing with him so that helps keep things away somewhat

>>535376848
takes about two weeks for a person with a job to get through that god awful campaign

>>535377190
retard

the invoker i played in poe2 had literally 3 skills because i used 6 auras and for some godforsaken reason those take up as many skill slots as a 6 link active skill
haired fucking retard

>>535376848
>0.3 announcement teaser - 450k views in 20 hours
>3.26 content reveal - 470k views in 2 months
poe 1 is going to be dead in a year.

>>535377324
its already dead

>>535356771
now I need to look up who kulemak is, I figured he was just some lich who that catarina liked but now that I've typed out Lich which has been associated with abyss a bit already that does make sense. I wonder if they'll give more Katarina lore as well or even bring her back as a mini boss before kulemak

the announcement looks amazing , 0.3.0 will be a bombshell patch

>>535377421
nobody thinks or writes like this

so true sister *dilates*

>>535377324
retard
https://youtu.be/BOVubzdy_O0?si=BBLYPkwIRQXwLCqQ

>15 hours of the worst leveling experience in any ARPG
>to then play endless atlas
>with the amazing build diversity of 6 builds total
cant wait

>>535377897
retard

>>535376848
saved

>3.26 had better retention than 0.2
This kills the Poo 2 eater.

>>535377873
i didn't say teaser vs teaser sis, i said the 0.3 teaser almost had as many views as the 3.26 content reveal.

>>535378013
easier to retain players when there are so few of them. plus it was an endgame expansion, they usually have good retention.

poe2 is like the smell of brown people, you can cope about it all you want but its just not good

>>535378097
So an apples to oranges comparison

>>535378356
retard

>>535378097
Here's the 0.2 teaser. Notice anything?
https://youtu.be/Y3G9aQH_JJg?si=FE2YLbipQywwIOqq

>>535378287
0.2 had more content than 3.26, schizo. You've already tried this argument and got blown out. Whenever you reply to me, I just think of the Hitler quote about arguing with Jews and how they would show up the next day and pretend yesterday never happened.

I would unironically rather go through all 10 acts of PoE1 a thousand times before I do PoE2's "campaign" once

>>535376280
0.1 surpassed 3.26.

>>535378287
endgame expansions have historically low retention, usually the patch after them has better retention
enjoy dodge rolling after abysses btw lol

>>535378515
T R V K E

>>535378583
Yeah I keep trying new campaign rerolls to try and find the fun by I end up quitting in act 2 out of revulsion. I'm on my 5th attempt to find an enjoyable build

>>535377897
>6 builds
damn bro, they buffed that much in 0.3????

>>535375912
this guy's a retard
it's abyss
the horns of kulemak were a tool of necromancy
abyssniggers are necromancers
simple as

>>535378636
>endgame expansions have historically low retention
doomers are going to have to get on the same page, half of you are saying 3.26 wasn't an end game expansion.
get your shit together.

you guys sure do know a lot about brown people and poop

>>535376280
>purpass

why did only a few percent of these people show up for 0.2?

>>535378515
>0.2 had more content than 3.26, schizo.
Straight up not true, but okay.

>>535378851
wrong

>>535378839
>doomer is too stupid to understand how concurrent players work
>>535378929
prove it

>>535378797
idk who you are or who you think i am because this is an anonymous message board but im just pointing out verifiable information that you are wrong about
3.26 was an endgame expansion that sucked btw

>>535376052
Now this is some premium cope.

>>535379152
so you don't think secrets of the atlas wasn't an end game expansion?

are we hyperino for 0.3rino

>>535376192
Someone give him the Austrian painter 'stache

enjoy your last few days of hopesissyposting before 0.3 fails to hit 200k and the doomARCHDEMONS rape this general

>Kulemak
It's Betrayal 3.0
Catarina is BACK, JOOOOOOOOOOON

>>535376786
'ppreciate it 'lil log

>>535379669
I really don't want betrayal back
I definitely want more lore heavy shit with little human enemies tbqhwyf

>>535379669
if i had to choose one poe1 mechanic to copy over, it would be betrayal
every single one of the new crafting benches added in 3.26 is shit but they would be good by poe2 standards

>>535379963
Ew

>>535379963
it would be a great addition to the game and the syndicate members would fit right in with rogue exiles

If poe2 is the big log, does that make poe1 the little log? Who fills the bowl more Chris or jon?

>>535379432
TRVKEPOCALYPSE

>>535377897
trvke

>>535379387
yes

i believe the act 4-6 hopium

>>535379432
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY

>>535379432
>before 0.3 fails to hit 200k
Like 3.26?

>>535379963
>every single one of the new crafting benches added in 3.26 is shit
Retard.

>>535380985
3.26 was more of a phrecia style event, 3.27 is going to be the first real poe1 league in almost 2 years. LET. THEM. COOK.

actually I enjoy eating shit

are we getting more poe1 events soon? I hope we'll get a merc phrecia soon

0.3 is going to change the world

>>535379432
hopeDEMIGODS WILL NEVER FALL

poe2 good

>>535381521
see you in 3 months for 3.27 then

2>1

If they're not adding Swords what weapon/class ARE they adding...?

never forget

>>535354268 (OP)
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2
GOD SHIT OF EXILE 1

>>535382582
daggers, flails, claws

>>535382139
FALLACY TSVNAMI

>>535381157
name a single good one
you cant

>>535382636
>Look everyone!!!! I screenshot my own post!

>>535382636
truly unhinged, must have been an am*rican who can't fathom the idea of not eating goyslop for a while

path of excellence 2 = YUGE SUCCESS
path of excrement 1 = EOL EOS DED

>>535379432
There's no way. The Chinese would execute Jonathan live on stream.

>>535382636
poo2 slogan

Dear GGG:

You have made the biggest piece of shit ever designed in an ARPG. This game is currently worse than,
>Wolcen
>Diablo 4
>Diablo 3
>Diablo 9
Any fucking ARPG on the market is better than this piece of shit right now. This character is boring, the fucking [parry] mechanics are shit.
Like I don't even understand why you took away the best parts of your game, witch is build design and fucking progression, and made it into a fucking slog fest of you fighting a fucking mind-numbing fucking white monster for fucking 30 seconds at a time.
Like it's fucking dumb, it is a dumb game.

>>535384369
TRVTH GRAVITVTIONAL CVLLAPSE

>>535382582
Swords (hence, the GOAT duelist) will come last out of all the character classes, but definitely before 1.0
>thanks Jonathan

>Abyss
Yeh we won

POO 2
BIG SHIT

>>535385013
the question now is how will they go about making abyss gear shit?

>>535385013
only thing I remember from that league was stacking abyss jewels and using doomfletch prism

Abyss was the Vaultist league :)

>>535356771
0.2 was a dumpster fire so I'm holding my expectations low lmao

Build enabling uniques

>>535386385
disabling*

>>535385248
>Abyss belt is now a unique
Pretty hard to make abyss gear bad without cutting the amount of sockets. Perhaps they'll replace regular rune sockets

>>535386378
They added nothing to actually do and balance was horrible. You know, like avenues for crafting your items, endgame activities, new acts, anything really. What they did do is leave Lightning Spear in a state that you actually have to huff copium to not just play lightning spear too.

Everything is just so tedious in this game. From leveling to Full Juice, everything is so damn tedious.

The EA has been out for 3/4 of a year now and we aren't even at 0.3. That is also not a reason to be exited.

>>535386385
Look how they massacred my boy...

>>535386385
>life leeched going from 0.4% to 0.8%
Surprised they didn't take the superior approach of "cannot recover life above 80% without flasks" to get actual build enabling

>>535386385
HOLY FUCK IM POGGING OUT THIS IS INSANE

feel like the update needs to be pretty damn substantial for me to come back, which i do have a bit of hope that it might. Having to replay act 1-3 needs to go in the update. Haven't played since the first week or 2 of 0.2 and i believe I've seen they did make some of the areas a bit smaller/easier to navigate? but even so i want to play acts once for new characters, not twice.

It would make me come back to try it out but what would make me stay would have to be a rework of endgame, i despise the "endless" map and tower system.

>>535386707
If they don't release more campaign then I'm simply not returning. I can't play through acts 1-3 for the hundredth time. Really hope they pull their finger out and release a decent bit of content.

>>535386707
Act 4 is all but confirmed, the rest of the acts are the ones up in the air. I doubt the exact end-game will be changed other than possibly turning it into an atlas but GGG has already noted players don't like tower juicing and scrolling through maps

>SHE's in Act 4
>Lorewise, she's also the druids wife. exwife I guess.
Habbenin?

POE 2 BAD

14 days until kino

>Don't feel like play poo1 atm
>Poo2 content is still a few days away
What do I do with myself?????

The Twittube is BUZZIN with PoE 2 hype right now

>>535387630
hooooolly shit bro that is crazy that items have downsides not pog not pog at all

Im really bored of POE1 with the lack of spell interactions in general. We got CoC that is only really worth using with cyclone and .......what else? .... game is very dull.
Atleast with POE2 im using different skills but then there are zero interesting things like CoC.. only forced shit gems and stupid chores that don't matter or enable the skill to be used at all.

I really don't get why this company doesn't expand the trigger systems ... its probably the only interesting part about these games.

then they end up nerfing shit like vortex being instant cast so it cant be used with some irrelevent support gem thats only use is to rotate buffs... gee thanks

didn't read

Why did he do it bros?

troonathan with the double down shit uniques. cant wait for the week 1 rage

>>535386385
>amount of life leeched
The fucking WHAT

>>535388406
>reduced skill and movespeed
Not terrible on a thorns build with the block chance, but damn lol what a shit unique

>>535388164
if this was an endgame base I think it'd be pretty decent on certain builds to res cap

Downsides on items are not good game design.
Every item already has a built-in downside and it's that you don't to use another item with better stats because item slots are limited.
It is acceptable in rogueslop like sanctum because there is no restriction on buffs limits but you can't just dump them all over the gear and the tree.
Frankly I don't think the developers play many games.

>>535389585
it would be good if there were more than 1 (one) source of max block in POE2

>>535390124
>company shouldn't do the thing it has done since 2007 because i just started playing the game and it confuses me

so can i like poe2 now?

>>535390358
>most beloved PoE item
>zero downsides
Johnny should take notes

>>535390124
downsides are interesting
in poe they are not because most stats are just homogenized shit
the only thing reduced stats does is force you to get stats elsewhere. its not like something interesting like skeletons crit you more often or something.

>>535390617
>added in 3.16 once they realized the game was past the point of no return

so um is poe 2 worth getting into or is still beta tested?

>>535390847
game is fucked. wait until positivity reaches above 50% (it wont)

>>535390716
>skeletons crit you more often
jesus christ how horrifying

>>535391075
just an example

Path Of Exile 2 Is...
Bad...

Build enabling uniques

Does customer support not work on weekends or something?

Nightreign proves that the souls formula as an arpg would work if someone was competant.

Why is it that elden ring has faster attacks with more distance, more roll distance and everything for a game where you fight like 2 mobs at best at a time yet poe2 a game where you fight 20 mobs you are literally swinging 2 inches infront of you slower with less impact and damage than random hammer in elden ring

seriously somone could unironically mod elden ring with the nightreigns coloured tiered loot and the relic/gem system and make a better ARPG than d4 and poe2 within another fucking game right now

Literally nightreign has more builds than poe2 and you can't even do a skill tree in that game

>>535392779
Nioh 3 could be that. Nioh 2 already has color-tiered loot and skill trees where you unlock new moves/abilities by using each weapon.

Build enabling uniques

>>535393687
You don't get it, chud. It's supposed to be bad.

low level garbage being garbage is fine, no one gets angry about thousand ribbons or le heup of all in poe1

>>535394123
how is that bad?

>>535394210
I would post something high level if I ever got it. More than half of the unique items currently in the game are low level.

>>535393687
As a low level unique this is actually pretty good for just being beefy in act 1, nothing special but for it's level not "terrible"
>>535394504
I would say some late game uniques are pretty good and bordering on build defining but they also get their builds nerfed. Trialmaster's shield is pretty good all around though I would say but definitely not build defining

>>535392591
From one of the best to an absolute piece of shit memes, maybe it's because of how mediocre socketed runes/cores are but it's funny

>>535390249
I'm sure when the duelist is in the shield nodes will get a pass over
>>535390716
Downsides that disable or nerf your options are interesting, downsides that turn off core defensive features on a build or make your build feel worse are not interesting
>-10% max block chance
>gain spell/attack block
That's interesting, not
>+15% damage
>-5% attack speed
>can't block lel

A pox upon those who will not play my game

bis build enabling unique for years until it was replaced with one of the rarest items in the game

>>535394210
both of those are incredibly good in campaign though

Over one hundred plus exciting unique items focused on build-enabling items that shake up the meta

>>535396637
anything that reduces life for demon form in poe2 was great until they made the ascendency unplayable, not as if it wasnt fucking bad already having to wait 60 second each time you enter a map for it to even be able to run the map GGG are retards

>>535395626
>-10% max block chance
>gain spell/attack block
that's not interesting, you're gaining a buff and being forced as a chore to get your stat elsewhere.
the end result is "i have the buff"

or stacking a bunch of effects that nullify eachother, but people think its good because they got a fast one over on the designers.
hehehe my lightning res is -400% jokes on them i don't care about lightning res because of my
even though the devs put that there on purpose.

you know whats an interesting down side? your crits have 5% chance to give the enemy a power charge instead of critting.

>>535398174
>give the enemy power charges and then steal them back

I really hope they don't turn their backs on the Vision. We finally got ARPG which requires positioning and pressing more than one button and the whole community just exploded.
All the problems with 0.2 simply disappear if you use all the tools the game gives you. It's a shame they removed the changes to enemy HP in acts. Seeing all these ecelebs with brains the size of amoebas running away from every rare enemies, panicking and screaming while spamming a single attack was fucking hilarious.
And their solution was to simply use OP weapons rather than trying to change their play style, the absolute state of this community. Can't even play the game if everything doesn't die with one attack.

>>535398174
charges on enemies barring endurance charges largely do nothing so it's pretty much not a down side. An interesting downside is something where like your spells do no damage or you can't crit

>>535399319
you poo2turds don't even play the game, shut the fuck up

>>535399319
People avoid rare monsters in the campaign because they are a waste of time, you kill magic packs and keep moving.

>>535399857
>People avoid rare monsters in the campaign because they are a waste of time
Video games are generally a waste of time and people like you are a plague on this genre.

>>535397282
will our girl return for 0.3?

>>535400031
>this genre.
you mean the genre built around minmaxing every little thing?

min maxers are the reason POE in particular is no fun allowed

>>535400414
Play a fun game like Diablo 3 or 4, or Last Epoch. New LE season starts in a few days.

>>535400616
no this genre is shit right now
until someone figures out how to make good gearing and good gameplay
LE only has one of those things. and POE2 is pretending it has the other.

>>535400332
Diablo 1, basically the founder of the genre was closer to modern roguelikes than to cancerous games like PoE 1. You took what you could get and just moved on.
Diablo 2, flagship of the genre didn't have an endgame at all and was just played three times with increasing difficulty and any retard could do it, at least I had no problems playing the game on Hell even as a kid.
But niggers like you still found a way to play this game endlessly, killing the final and secret boss over and over again, which was not intended by the developers

>>535401057
what are ubers in diablo 2?

bruh, unc is really pressed

>>535401057
you don't understand we have to make the trashmobs do 10 billion damage and get through 9 layers of your defense becuase Jimmy plays the game as a job and has 8 layers of defense on his toon last league!

>muh d2
brevik lost

>>535401331
Wouldn't Jimmy be the one skipping trashmobs because they take too long to kill? Remember Jimmy is the minmaxer who ruined the genre.

>>535401761
the devs need to kill the player whos running past trashmobs at 30mph

>>535401302
Optional event added after the game's release
>>535401331
Just don't get hit, you've literally been given a free ability for that.
>>535401803
This
I completely clear every location

>>535401905
>Optional event added after the game's release
just like the path of exile endgame.

>>535395323
but anon, those are Jewel sockets on Tabula, not for runes or cores. This makes it better but still not quite good enough to sacrifice most chest slots IMO

>>535401057
People were minmaxing the fuck out of D2 back in the day. Ladder resets were the only time you played through the game on all three difficulties. You got rushed through acts on every difficulty so you could play the endgame which was doing boss runs and farming areas that were good on whatever build you were playing.

>>535402434
>People were minmaxing the fuck out of D2 back in the day
>"People"
Niggers like you
Just a quick reminder that the trading system built into Diablo 3 has received a lot of negative feedback from normal players, while subhumans like you happily trade with each other. I mean, that's literally what happens in PoE.

>>535387852
This is a genuinely strong chest thoughbeit, people just don't know how to evaluate crit immunity (it's everything).

>>535402434
I've seen that guy spam the 'no one played past the campaign in D2' countless times at this point.
It would be like someone going into the wow general and trying to tell everyone no one raided back in the day. Just peak retardation.

https://pobb.in/FsPyu6DWBzfX
Any tips for improving my survivability? Playing ssf doing t14s and getting 1 shot by stuff too often. Not really a fan of block% since I'll still get 1 shot just not as often so kinda wanna spec out of that stuff I got

>>535402840
it used to be pretty good but now it's so easy to reduce extra damage from crits it's kind of obsolete.

>>535403073
Chaos res.

>Not really a fan of block%
Block is fantastic.
Use proper defensive flasks (1 jade, 1 granite).

>>535403073
wtf are you doing put on a jade flask

I think going back in time was a bad twist and lame and ruined poe2. Time travel is bad 90% of the time

>>535403357
>>535403407
Is there a trick to flask uptime or do I have to mash em when something looks at me?

>>535403513
you have literally 0 avoidance, you're going to get buttfucked by every attack in the map. just put on a jade flask for now and play the map normally until you cave and run bone offering

>>535403513
Craft "used when charges reach full" on them on your bench.
Try to altroll a flask with the "gaun X charges when hit" prefix.
Also I don't know minions that well but Zealotry is a really weird aura considering you don't use damaging spells, I'm not sure it works on your archers either. Maybe switch to a defensive aura like Grace, or flesh and blood (sand stance)+tempest shield..

>>535403446
>I think going back in time was a bad twist and lame and ruined poe2
TRUTHNUKE

>>535403846
>I'm not sure it works on your archers either
it doesn't, they use attacks

>>535403073
off the top of my head it seems to be a gear issue
>chest is WAY outdated and sucky three bases behind
>can pray for a helmet with more ES
if out of options I'd recommend get a chest with no life and a helmet with life
Other things that suck
>shield gives little ES and has a mana roll on it
>not running a defensive aura
>shield has little block chance and therefore hard to scale block defenses
You could get yourself a lot tankier trying to go armor/ES hybrid defenses or running a grace/determination aura though you'll likely sacrifice damage for it. More armor would help you scale molten shell as well and running enduring cry will massively increase your phys ehp and max hit. Essentially
>too much mana on gear for no reason (not scaling mana)
>grab shield mastery when you can (chance to block)
>roll a better shield/body
>ammy could be better
You might even consider taking the attribute starter path instead of the minion damage path to make more room for points with mastery or pathing to the middle jewel. Ultimately hard to say as I don't play minions

>>535403073
?

>>535403513
Piano your flasks like a goon at the earliest sign of danger and repeat every few seconds. Yeah you might want a jade and granite flask you have very little avoidance/mitigation

>>535404031
>>535403846
POB the difference between zealotry and one of the elemental damage auras if you REALLY want damage then, but yeah consider grace/determination and flesh and blood. Can also use frost shield as that's a good layer of tankiness

>>535403073
>>535403357
Seconding this, block% is incredible against anything that isn't a boss
>roll or get recoup on block and become immortal
>have es recharge or life regen and become immortal anyway
At 75% you only take one in every four hits normally so you're taking a quarter of the hits that don't stop your recovery. Block makes you much tankier thank you think

>>535402221
>This makes it better but still not quite good enough to sacrifice most chest slots IMO
it definitely isn't worth, chest is like 1/2 your ehp in poo2

>>535404820
it's a tabula it's not for ehp

isn't it funny poop2 sissies are literally just gobbling up poowuns sloppy seconds? they can't go a second without guessing what this "league" is going to be without using all poowun buzzwords

>>535405004
then whats it for then lmao clearly not leveling as a tabula should be

>>535403846
Ohh yeh I'm dumb, I was playing around with mages too and left zealotry on
>>535403697
Turns out I have no jade flasks but I'll keep an eye out
I was running bone offering before, might switch back
>>535404114
Is there a good way to get a new 6 link chest? I've been rolling for one but no luck
Been trying to move towards armour/es too hence the gloves and boots
>>535404230
Ohh yeh I had an aura there before so it didnt matter, tho I haven't seen raise spec actually get cast when I've been hit
>>535404584
>At 75% you only take one in every four hits normally
Yeh but it feels like that 1/4 will 1 shot me when I get unlucky, thats what I really want to solve right now. At least when I take a bunch of damage in 1 second I can say ohh should have tele'd faster, but right now I'll get blown up by some random aoe from offscreen or from dead mobs or something

>>535405004
Chests provide the most defenses is what he's saying. You're severely handicapping your ability to take damage with a tabby

>>535405112
>new 6L
Lul no, your options for getting reliable 6Ls are
>1500 fusings (made easier with jeweller orb recipe and eldritch)
>Black Morrigan
>Ritual Omen
Good luck on the last two. Sometimes corrupted fusings can also hit a 6L but generally you're just shit out of luck. There's div card farming but those bases tend to be shit for 6L.
Also more often than not at 5k Life + ES you aren't actually being one shot, you're taking 3+ hits that you can't mitigate or avoid at all and you're dying for it. Block is avoidance (like evasion) which will make you much tankier. More avoidance = more chance to get recoup = not getting one shot. What you probably want to do is let your skeletons do all the work and focus on moving around/dodging ranged attacks to not die. Running a granite flask + a jade flask will make it a lot harder for you to die so consider doing that

>>535405112
>Is there a good way to get a new 6 link chest?
Buying one is the easiest. If you're SSFing, you could try to target-farm some of the divination cards that give a guaranteed six link.

>>535405112
you're boned in ssf for 6 links. you can try div cards or strongboxes i guess
have you just not been using specters

>>535405145
>>535405105
can y'all transfolx think of anything ya could do with a booby armor that had 30 affixes on it?

>>535405628
SSF protip
grand heists print 6Ls
don't remind GGG or they'll ruin it though

>>535405482
>Also more often than not at 5k Life + ES you aren't actually being one shot, you're taking 3+ hits that you can't mitigate or avoid at all and you're dying for it.
I mean maybe I'm getting hit by a bunch of things in a single frame and dying, but there's also a few unavoidable boss moves that have been instakilling me like the sun and moon bosses yellow line aoe
>>535405504
Ohh yeh how do you target farm cards? I've got a whole stash tab of em and have only had like 2 full stacks I could turn in for portal scrolls
>>535405628
>have you just not been using specters
No I've been using them, have 3 carnage chiefs at the moment, thats why I was surprised I had it set to cast on damage taken, I havent accidentally unsummoned them at all

>>535405649
>give your chest 30 shit affixes
>get one shot because you're missing 5000 armor/evasion/3k+ energy shield
I'm not saying it's useless but running a tabby turns you into glass and if you can't instakill enemies I'd foresee a lot of dying in your future

>>535405983
>Ohh yeh how do you target farm cards?
You identify which map they're native to, then make that map your favorite map on the atlas (so it drops more), then you run it a bunch and try to add mechanics to spawn more divcards.
I would say not to focus on finding a 6 link, focus on having a 4 or 5 link and a decent chest.

>>535405983
Lunaris and Solaris moves are all dodgeable, if you're dying you aren't looking at the mods you're running, but they also are dealing a significant amount of physical damage as well. You should be tanky enough to take them once but maybe running enduring cry for charges alone might be enough with a granite flask to not get instantly melted. With the -10% physical damage taken on full ES Es mastery as well you should have enough

whats up poebabs, been awhile, what stinky, brown, bite-size shit you all eating now this time?

>>535403073
You need to be running abyss for darkness enthroned and ghastly eye jewels. Switch to a titanium shield and get a twilight regalia even if it's not the highest ilvl. Just throwing a few essences, harvest rerolls and fossils at it will net you way more EHP. Get another good ES base helmet and get +minion levels on it. Roll an amulet with increased maximum energy shield or a life roll at the very least. Anoint your amulet. Swap out your gloves and boots for a warlock base. Swap out predator support for vicious proj support. That's what I can think of off the top of my head. Good luck.

>>535369186
>>535369360
NTA but if it's just a poe1 clone what's the point, it's always going to be worse. A certain hair lacking individual said so during the first exilecon.
If they double downed on the action parts and made something actually unique at least the game would justify it's existence. Having to sit there and parry A1 mobs isn't it though.

>>535406074
it's the same design principle as poe 1, you sacrifice some defense for a bunch of utility or damage. it's actually viable in the endgame of poe 2 because it gives you a fuck ton of damage.

>>535405649
didn't they remove attributes, life, and res from jewels what affixes are you talking about lil gup

>>535406473
jesus christ the state of this fucking general. you don't know what a fucking affix is?

>>535406675
mmm hmm

when is the next stash tab sale? Sep?
will socketable and ritual ones be on sale?

>>535407018
so you unironically don't know what a affix is.

>>535407018
>poison magnitude
Would be pretty huge having 6 of those

>>535407193
what i'm gathering from this is that the poe2 tabula is so bad it gives you schizophrenia

>>535407036
Happens every 2-3 weeks. Looking like next week or the week after so just about time for league launch. I actually wasn't aware there was a socketable or ritual stash tab

>>535407348
I'm sure the damage is fine but there's a premium on defense.
Also until they remove the MS implicit on falconer jacket the chest is solved

>>535407357
what i'm gathering is that you are such a newfag shitter that you LITERALLY don't know the most fundamental mechanics of the game, either game.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Modifier#Terminology
>Affix
>Either a prefix or a suffix.
>Affixes are explicit modifiers that appear on magic and rare entities.
how about poe2
https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Modifier
>Affix
>A term that generally describe either a prefix or suffix
fucking imbecile

>>535406448
In POE1 though a 6L is a ton of extra damage that's hard to get otherwise. I don't think a bunch of jewels are necessarily a huge tradeoff unless you're so deep into dicking down bosses levels of DPS that you can do ubers in seconds

>>535407603
buddy.

>>535407692
understand what an affix is yet?
wait a second.. affix, pre-fix, suf-fix..

>>535407826
I want you to take a deep breath and tell me what you see in this image >>535407018

I see tubs of poop
Poop of exile two
I see them steam for me and you

>>535407915
that is a list of affixes....
you want to jump to the part where you say 'ermahgerd i trollz' to try to save face or you want to carry on like a retard?

>>535408183
The only possible way I can translate this is that you are such an autistic retard you thought I was saying jewels don't have affixes

Got my 36/40 just in time for Druid

>>535408305
you mean like this retarded post..
>>535406473
what affixes indeed?

>>535408405
Some of these are hilariously useless lol
>weapon swap speed
>totem placement speed
>valour

>>535408405
I was asking you what affixes you're using if all the good leveling ones like pool, res, and attributes have been taken off, you paste eater

>>535408542
Bro your 60% bleed duration?

>>535408513
Totem placement speed and valour can enable things potentially, but I hate that weapon swap speed is even a stat.
It's either gonna be useless (if you have enough by default) or it's gonna be needed and then it feels like absolute aids to waste slots on that.

>>535408737
nigga this item used to be iconic

>>535408542
retard lmao
>ohh crit chance, crit damage, magnitude, block chance, es %, armor, meta energy gain, movement speed, attack speed, cast speed.. i thought affixes were life?

They are going to add sex in 0.5

Who is baking next one sirs?

>>535408847
>>>>movement speed
point me to a jewel with this affix and I will concede entirely otherwise you are pants on head retarded

>>535409301
https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/Yukkuri-6816/Yukkuri_?i=5&search=items%3DTabula%2BRasa
wow that was hard.
this general used to be fun now it's just mouth breathers like you.

>>535409460
nvm it's bis

>find cool build
>use this other build to make curency to use this build
>check the other guide
>use this levelling build to use this build

nigger are you serious?

>>535408805
Just like light radius, GGG seems to be obsessed with being able to brick items. Not much to do about in POE2 especially

>>535409684
A lot of builds in the game (like penance brand) genuinely feel terrible before a significant amount of divs in investment so that's just how it is sometimes

A weird observation would be shit mods exist to balance good mods, which was the original pitch. For a good outcome there must also be a bad outcome. However there's so many mods and so many bad outcomes within good mods that reflect damage or reduced attributes seems pointless now

>>535410181
Light radius has a pretty low ilvl, easy enough to whittle off.

the state of this thread

>>535410781
More like the staleness of this bread haha!

>>535410181
Would be more interesting if an item had a separate row with non-combat related modifiers like lighting, item size, colour, shimmer or what ever. Now just everyone hates having lighting on your item.

>>535410431
trvke

>>535410361
retard

IT'S FOOKEN UPPPP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA9Snotz2WA

So Abyss was an undead necromancer faction all along?

>>535412313
CUTE lorelet

abyss sucks in poe1 though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M4Fo0eUg8
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