Thread 535415763

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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Gens%C5%8D_Cup_2
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9:_Faggots_at_the_Bar
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Akko_League_VI:_Retard_Emblem_(Integrity_Default)
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vr/_League_6

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru/

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015

>Previously
/cm/ finger-wagging
Every team is cheating
Take away the 3rd star*
>aglel deadline soon

free my nigga /e/

cloud

/4ccg/ for /ag/ League 9

>>535416364
>sure hate testing

>>535416383
My HERO Rabi will win /ag/lel single-handedly and claim her rightful throne as /vg/ captain!

>hotglueing
shameful behavior

>>535416383
Everyone was clowning on this formation in the last thread but I wouldn't be surprised if it actually does well since 4-5-1 might be a legit formidable formation on 17 for /ag/ League because of the forced +1/+2

>>535416831
Not bad, is this just the img2img stuff w/ chatGPT you were talking about in the last thread?

>>535416383
>gold border
>not gold

>>535416383
>Lost media's portrait
>Just Ctrl C + Ctrl V for Breebs
Got a chuckle out of me

>>535416970
im using a local img2img model, but chatgpt should work, you will just be limited on how many you can make because it having an image upload limit of 5

>>535416925
this was the runner up team in gusic 2, it'll probably get nerfed for tryharding

>>535417084
>>535353849
Don't want to shit up the thread with too much AI slop images and discussion, but I find the idea of what-if action figures of 4chan cup/historic /vg/ players a fun harmless use of it at least, since it's not like anyone would ever BE the change IRL to ever make this a reality.
The model I used was nano-banana from https://lmarena.ai (the model you get is random so sometimes you have to re-do it a few times to get the nano-banana one)

The prompt for that Git Gud image if anyone wants to do try some 4chan cup figurines for themselves or on their own local model was
>Please turn this photo into a figure. Behind it, there should be a partially transparent plastic paper box with the character from this photo printed on it. The box should say "/vg/ Collector's Series" on it and look like a Bandai Figurarts box. In front of the box, on a round plastic base, place the figure version of the photo I gave you. The words on his face should say "KEEP CALM AND GIT GUD". I’d like the PVC material to be clearly represented. It would be even better if the background is indoors.

Have fun, but try not to shit up all 750 posts of this thread with your AI slop though like I'm currently harmfully contributing to.

>>535418143
>please
kek

>>535418298
You have to be nice to your AI overlords.
The original prompt (without the Git Good stuff) was originally translated from a Japanese person so that's probably why it was included.

>>535418143
>this is AI slop
what the FUCK

>>535418715
welcome to 2025 bucko

>>535418715
cipher could NEVER

>>535418143
i grabbed nanobanana and did a few test runs with it.
not bad at all, might start using it.

>>535418715
Dude we are so cooked.
I don't usually pay attention to AI slopshit much but that model got posted in my general and everyone was making fun shitposts with it because the quality was so impressive.
Just think about how within the next 3 years it'll be way more perfected and there will probably be no way at all to tell if an image is AI-generated or not.
You'll be questioning everything you know as to if it's real or not.
Everyone's about to start getting a whole lot more schizophrenic.

>>535418143
>BE the change IRL
Here's how we can turn the cup into a money making scheme

>>535419832
>Everyone's about to start getting a whole lot more schizophrenic.
Jokes on them, I've been practising for the last decade

>>535419897
i'd unironically buy 4cc figs

hey guys cipher here
since everyone was posting their figs i thought id post my essex fig
ignore the wall

Limited edition 4CC Collector's Cup WE GAAN model, limited batch of only 747 models.

repair expenses for damage to room not included in price

>>535420898
>AIEE.

Could every AItard kindly neck themselves?

>>535421032
you can just Ping cipher in VGL and tell him that, plenty of others do it already

>>535421032
what else are we gonna do in offseason you monkey

>>535421032
But wouldn't you like a rare Winter edition Gondola?

>>535421284
>he took off the pants
jesus christ you sick fuck.
what's wrong with you

Ultra rare Autumn 24 fuck /admin/ kits >DFW model, one of only three ever made

>>535422154
ah yes my favorite team, Pai

>>535422154
After what had just been discovered with /lit/ and /aco/, /admin/ should be wearing Fuck /lit/ kits

Bernice White

Hmm do I finish my AGL export or spend the day trying to recreate a kit from VGL 3? @Dork can I get an extension?

are these rare?

>>535421032
To be fair this is at least a kind of a fun departure from the usual AI art sloppa shit.

Lately, I've been having a nightgown fetish.

The other night I had a dream that /myteam/ lost 4-2 to /bant/, giving up 2 benuldies in the process

28 /ag/ league teams left to submit including 3 teams who have extensions.

Guys I put my Keksandra collectible in the cum jar yesterday and filled it all the way to the brim with cum, now what?
Do not ask me how I filled the jar so quickly okay

>>535426049
Okay so hear me out
Keksandra and Marisa having sex in the cum jar

>>535426414
Keksandra and Homucifer in the cum jar while Boris sits and watches in the corner

>>535426606
That but without the cum jar and Boris has a chastity cage on

wife

>>535426414
>>535426606
but what if they get pregnant?

Best one I could get, ran out of credits

>>535427705
Girls can’t get pregnant in cum jars if they’re fugging other girls :^)
It’s science lole

>>535423892
These are great wtf

>>535426606
>Boris was cucked by Homucifer when she fuckled Keksandra in the hot summer of '92

I don't know what I love more, watching my wife get fucked and impregnated or ai slop!

>>535431632
why not both? who is your wife, I'll gen her getting impregnated

>>535431713
Burnice, of course

>>535431772
https://files.catbox.moe/mzqe0q.png

>>535432085
make her bald

>>535415763 (OP)
total git gud death

>>535432085
Erm, the guy is... the wrong color...

>>535432165
>>535432257
sorry, my mistake
https://files.catbox.moe/s6ci66.png

So many fellow /zzz/bros!!!

riveting content today lads

Pro Evolution Soccer 2017: A Flawed Masterpiece (1:03:27)

Pro Evolution Soccer 2019: A Perfect Masterpiece (3:42:18)

>>535432413
kys

Pro Evolution Soccer 2021: A Retard Magnet (4:40:22)

Pro Evolution Soccer 2020: Lost Media

I played Pro Evolution Soccer 2016, and I scored how many goals?!

Pro Evolution Soccer 2018: A Measured Defence (16:43:27)

>>535424793
"My slop is different." - Slop vendor

>>535433225
Yeah, you'd be stupid not to buy this shit right now basically.
It's getting limited in quantity and the price just keeps going up.

>>535433225
Well, I know the answer is neither but aren't the 4cc figs so much nicer than bald burnice getting b2c'd?
you can't deny there's a difference

>>535433439
Classic old PES 18 formula, it cures anything; boring games? tactical variety? mementum? broken game mechanic? Just stop buying, roll up and buy a bottle of Old No. (PES) 18 Snake Oil

>>535432507
just another weekend with no cup

>>535433524
figures were alright for a little while but once you let AIfags take root they'll never go away

alright /4ccg/, what does (our) perfect anime girl look like?

>>535434007
Something like this in terms of physique

>>535434007
black

>>535434007
Fat tits and fluffy tail

>>535433871
just don't reply to their posts
how hard is this concept

>>535434334
TRVKE

>>535434114
>>535434183
>>535434239
>>535434334
>chubby black fox girl with big tits and a fluffy tail

>>535433871
I honestly have no issues with sloppa as long as it abides by the 3 rules
>not offtopic
>not coomershit
>not waifufagging

>>535434615
not that chubby and not that black but close enough:

>>535433871
Yeah I'd much rather have VGL cord posts here.

>>535435192
Idk man I really don't care that Namefag#4542 is having another melty in the cord

>>535434792
which is inevitably what it will devolve into

>>535434807
Not exactly what I had in mind but would

/aiccg/

I love my cute zoer wife, I’m kissing her womb repeatedly this very instant.

>puts an 11 minute victory anthem in my AGL export
nothin personell

>>535436019
Rigdio shows you how long the anthem is. It'll just get cut short. Nobody cares.

>>535416383
rabiKINGS we rise

Hopefully Rabi at least gets her model, right?

>>535436058
the times streamers skip anthems is pretty low unless it's blatant shitpost

>>535436494
Sure, but not for 11 minutes.

>>535436620
I'd class 11 minutes in the "blatant shitposting" area

>ai posting in the 'ccg
do you really

>>535436207
/rabi/
/kotFC/
/essex/
/4ccg/

book it aglel

>>535436343
Link a model before deadline and she does

>>535438547
Steal it from /rabi/

>ai slop
All the players have 3d models, it wouldn't be too hard to format them for 3d printing. After that it's just sanding and painting,this doesn't sound like it'd be too hard for a /toy/ or /tg/ fan to make some figures with the help of a local library's machine

>>535438402
/doro/ when

>>535439141
when agl goes back to 19 for uvscroll doroshit

>>535438547
Ask aesco, they used a Rabi model and even used her for a player in /wowg/

>the 19th and 21st best POI in the vt league havent had active threads on vt in 5 months
Unimaginably grim.

POI not being publicly accessible is one of the rigger's most devious tricks

>>535438809
And get a /gd/ fan to design the box

>>535440112
TMA was given the gift of the gods of natural culling to get the league back down to a reasonable number, but as expected he fucked it up and is allowing offsite threads to have teams. he cant get out of his own way.

>>535421284
>the fucking legs
okay i had a sensible chuckle

>>535440112
>>535440327
It really doesn't have a legitimacy (if it ever did) anymore
and to think that comfy shitters put it on the same level as VGL

>>535438809
>it wouldn't be too hard
>it doesn't sound like it'd be too hard
You'd think that, just because they all have 3d models already.
But you'd be surprised at how difficult it can be to get the fine details right or even just get a complex model that wasn't made to be 3D printed into a 3D printed format. Especially when you consider things like eyeballs and how they work in like 90% of the anime models in the cup where they're just flat planes and it doesn't translate at all into a 3D printable form.

Did rapeape slowly killing off /vt/ make up for /f/?

>>535441896
fraid not

/f/ dying is a good thing.

>>535442515
/zzz/bro btw

>>535440327
it is why the vt league is dying and interest level is the lowest it has ever been
allowing alt chan teams to comptete and will likely have an incomprehensible group stage format that scared casual viewers away because of the weird number of teams because god forbid they go 40 team mega babby style

[Heartwarming News] The most hated manager was found dead and raped in a dark alley.

>>535443937
I'm still here though

>>535443937
finally they got rid of troonsoup

>>535442846
Groups of six are kino.

>>535445516
Maybe on planet retard

>>535443937
LimKWAB is still alive tho

>>535445619
Okay how you know

>>535442846
It's probably going to be 44 teams with 11 groups of 4 and an Ro24. They have 43 if Dtroit gets his shit in order.

>>535419832
https://youtu.be/-gGLvg0n-uY

>>535449781
free my nigga /chess/

>>535449781
3 out of 8 seconds of this webm being a still frame perfectly captures the average zoomer tech literacy

Gender: Gay

>>535421032
>do not interact, only tell to kill selves
Doesn't seem to be working very well for you, huh pal?

>>535416364
>unironically retarded autumn

>>535445516
not for a league that has tried to gain more viewers.
vt league hit the wall hard and general interest was killed when they did the confusing group stage shit

>>535446663
should be 40 teams. 8 groups of 5.
cull the 2 phase teams that haven't posted on vt in 5 months them being included is pure comedy and makes triangle look like the joke of a commissioner 4ccg has always said he was, then cull the 2 lowest poi/effort teams. ez pz have some balls and rule with a fist instead of letting the fist get shoved up ur ass by off site teams tri

>>535457857
rabi looks like THAT?

Team for this feel?

guys i think something's wrong with the kot figure i ordered

>>535458687
/mu/

>>535458820
>/vg/ Collector's Sergles

>>535458845
/moo/

>>535459095
The prophecy will soon come to pass and /moo/ will rise, taking the divegrass world by storm.

>>535459526
But what about Reso Jr.?

>>535459671
An ancient manuscript was found recently containing more information, the translation was read during last ASS.

"STALLMAN NO" was 10 years ago

>>535458501
must protect the shitty phase connect teams at all costs think of the heckin bumble bee tunarino

Of course the sloppa nigger had to be THAT “person”

>>535461192
>only 1 nigger is making sloppa

>>535461297
Yes, Cipher doesn’t count as human

>>535460703
make my nigga Rance

>>535461004
is she alright

>>535462202
>holding head like he just missed a shot
I'm afraid it's kino

>>535462202
KEK

>>535462032
really ded, i'm 'fraid

>>535462505
where's the funny part

>>535462887
where it says babbies cup on the box

It will be a long way till Autumn…

Can you do Mibibi?

>>535463352
/zzz/bro btw

>>535462827
nyo...

>>535463352
>can you do a figure sloppa of a character that has 15000 figures made of her already and this one would look exactly the same?
average intelligence of a /zzz/bro

only pajeets would hate /zzz/ and AI

>>535465030
i don't know about ZZZ but wouldn't pajeets love AI?

>>535464908
she looks like she needs hot glue

>>535465365
/zzz/bro btw

>>535465945
What a handsome lad

>Noticed my first bald spot today
It's over, any 4cc or admin bros got any advice?

>>535468557
finasteride dermaroll hair transplant in this order

>>535468557
After a few years you learn to accept it

>>535468557
Hair transplant and topical fin did me good

>>535469156
Nice link, dumbass

>>535469521
So technically speaking, Cipher was?… you know…

/ag/ league deadline in 12 hours. 22 teams left.

>>535469521
Who's the one on the left?

>>535470391
me on the left

>>535470391
aKWABtis

>>535469521
what the fuck, when did he say this?

>>535472714
>he hasn't memorized every first bait
NGMI

>>535472880
which one was this in

There's also Boris' drunken initiation rite into the 2huminati captured live: https://files.catbox.moe/evkqaf.mp3

>>535472930
The most recent one.

>>535465945
cursed

>>535470203
What weekend does it start

>>535474003
thursday

>>535474003
next

>>535474003
Next

>>535474623
What's supposed to be the difference between the first Saturday and the first Sunday's format?

>>535476170
My nigga Dan Te.

>>535475949
when did /m/ go -6 GD?
>>535476170
he's doing the header

>>535476475
More than once, but most recently Winter 24

Now 92% more raped

>>535458551
'd 'o

>>535476786
Why is this WWE figurine a balding Texan surrounded by 4 homucifers?

>>535474814
Basically the last 4 groups play their first game on Sunday, while the first 12 groups also play their 2nd.

>>535476862
kekypow

>>535475949
What prompt do you use, specifically for the background

>>535478005
>/ag/

>>535478005
Shouldn't have thrown the actual Rabi into it

>>535477628
Just copy the original ones and replace with a new image/figure

"In the same style as the first attached image, replace the figure with the one from the second attached image turning that character into a model figurine. Replace the text on the box to read 4CC Collector's Edition. Change the colour of the box to red, keep the box empty. Also include a sticker with "Now includes: MINUS SIX GOALS" on the front of the box somewhere. On the top part of the box front there should be the text "/m/"."

>>535478005
make one with the REAL rabi

>>535478520
>>535478750

>>535478941
buying this

>>535478941
>Funkoshit
Enjoy your waste of plastic.

behead the comfynigs

Hear me out
Instead of 4CC collectibles
How about 4CC fumos?

Seeing how much discussion this AIslop is generating makes me understand why people like PES16.

>>535469521
Who the fuck in their right mind made this

Coming soon for Winter 26

>>535480059
giwiwb

any /ag/l breeds?

>>535480059
This Homu looks like she has downs

>>535480059
Cringe

>>535479950
I don't get it

>>535476170
>Searies

Some people just can't accept the future. Everyone here has a smartphone, despite the problems it can cause.

The future is abysmal dogshit and I accept it.

>>535481806
If I shit in your mouth and said the future was you swallowing it, would you go along with that because it’s the future?

Fucking retards

a certified mercbr/u/sh AI banger

>>535482338
kys slopnigger

>>535482729
Retarded faggot

>>535483208
>having a melty people don’t like ai slop

>>535480059
Now do one with the dead cats.

What is going on in here

>>535482147
Come up with a better analogy first.

>>535481806
>Everyone here has a smartphone
I don't.

>>535483660
Prove it.

>>535483613
It’s a good analogy. Posting ai slop is shitting in the mouth.

>>535480059
The rigdora has seen better days

>>535483754
what's the analogy of having your mouth open

>>535483948
Sharing a thread with pajeets who use ai

>>535483753
What’s he supposed to do? Take photos with his webcam?

>>535484043
That's for him to show.

what does /4ccg/ think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88

So, exercising less and less amounts of your brain, not being self-sustaining, remaining immature for the entirety of your life is considered "progress" nowadays? Thanks (((America))).

>>535484036
door is right there saar.

>>535484762
this exercises my brain

I'm shocked there is not an /ai/ board yet

>>535485946
There hasn't been a new board since like 5 years ago, hiro don't care

>>535486131
lewd shoulders

>>535485946
A website full of idiots doesn't want to contain technology for such idiots? Truly peculiar I must say.

>>535486367
nyo lyewding

>>535486131
anal sex

anal is for FAGS who like MEN

>>535458501
They both had threads in July.

>>535487423
That's you

>>535487585
nah I like pussy
and you like shit
we are not the same

if it isn't american man raped by a gang of indian immigrants in the sweltering summer of '92 trauma dumping in the 'ccg episode again.....

>>535487784
what if I like both

>>535488096
that means you still want to fuck something covered in shit

>>535488150
obviously? I just told you I like shit

>>535487784
Well you like sticking your dick in piss

>>535488056
t. jeet
jeets are only capable of raping other jeets

How good is /4ccg/ at dancing?

>>535488421
melty

>>535488389
The shittiest comeback (pun intended) by an anal fag.
Basic human biology teaches you that pussies have a separable tube for that. While the shithole is the shithole.

>>535488551
I can do a mean bird is the word

>>535488621
Well you like sticking your dick in blood

>>535488551
I danced in college

But pushing against shit, especially if it's hard is not really fun for anyone. That's why you empty the ass before fucking it, which makes it less appealing to scatfags. Nothing's better than mating pressing a pussy while the anus pushes out warm shit against your sack. Can't get that with anal.

how did we get from kyaru bootleg funko to scat

>>535489479
AIfags

>>535489932
This is an AIfag?
>>535482147

>>535469968
afraid so

I like anal but am indifferent to AI

thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU

>>535416831
I get doing it for Git Gud and other players but there's several real Devil Homura figures, you don't need to AIslop it.
Now that I think about it, I wonder how many 4cc players have merch made of them.

Wait, saars like shit, therefore they like anal

>>535491046
Is this typical for the AGL

>>535491070
all they ask for is bobs and vagene

AI posting always goes like
>haha ok that's a funny pic
>anon generates another 500 of them
>Alright, the excitement has faded, you can stop now.
>HOW DARE YOU HATE ON THE FUTURE.

>>535490940
>using a fig to slop a fig
okay that's lame.
I liked the wingless one with the 90+er one
>>535423892
it's much better when they have a theme and not just

>>535491046
why the fuck did they try 96 teams in the first place when 64 was already pushing it

>>535491417
we're at 20/500
long way until the excitement fades

>>535491704
that's what I tell my wife when she says she's fucked enough guys

>>535492594
Bejitabro and AI enjoyer btw.

generate a figure of my zoer wife

>>535491564
there were more than enough signups
get ready for 128 next year for the 10th anniversary :^)

>>535493085
>10th anniversary

>>535492995
What does she look like

>>535493404
Google random filipino women.

>>535493404
a sobbing mess on the floor

>>535493480
>filipino
>women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7gDBVmgIRA
Team for this feel?

>>535493404
Filipino hag wearing an ichihime cosplay

>>535493953
/trash/

>>535493953
/gamedle/

>>535491283
Proportionate to the amount of teams competing, yeah it's normal.

>>535493953
/ck/, duh

>>535493953
/pag/ I mean /bag/

>>535494431
>/pag/
BAS-
>I mean /bag/
nvm

>>535445516
A group of six is ass

>>535495172
A group of 8 however is based
Bring back WeeD

>>535495172
t. 0 pointer

>>535484762
Objectively great, should be in /d/ or /aco/'s music export

>>535495534
Implying

>>535493953
/vg/

>>535484762
I don't care how much hate I'll get for this, I miss Ken.
Yes, he was (and is even more of now) a faggot, but there was an energy he brought to matches he commentated that is completely unmatched by anyone who is still here. Everyone's energy level has seemed to diminish, even Sou although he's probably lost the least, but if Ken from 10 years ago offered commentate any match in Autumn I'd be on board no questions asked.
We didn't know how good we had it.

>>535493953
Recycling other teams' discarded players? Well don't mind if I yabba dabba doo!

>>535496480
Kekaroo, at least the /a/ orbiters are somewhat different.

>>535496480
Every time I'm reminded /vst/ has a star it remains a surprise to me

>>535496480
Please show me all the VGL players that the /v/alkans are currently using

>/sp/ was running a huge model filled with secret code to prevent the other team scoring
And to think, they'd have gotten away with it if it weren't for Shakes' eagle eye

>>535497010
Nobody is going to believe that bait.

>>535497010
You might say he's been exposed.

>>535496819
Maybe the most forgotten elite ever? Doesn't even have the excuse of being old. Though it's now acquired the reputation of being forgotten which conversely makes it remembered because everyone remembers that they forgot it.

>>535497258
>forgetting /v/inter

>>535497258
It was also ran in a very forgettable PES...

>>535497392
forgetting about 21 is for the best

>>535497392
I'll never forget how dogshit that PES was

>>535498280
Oh my science.

>>535498280
Why are there so many of her?

>>535498280
For me, it's the tiny Daiwa Scarlet.

>>535498940
A parody of the redditors that like her.

>>535498280
Why does Karth drool over her

>>535498280
Holy fucking reddit

>>535495509
>Bring back WeeD
This, every vidya board is managed now so we don't need to include /vt/

>>535497258
The only notable thing was /t/ making the final, would’ve been more memorable had /t/ also won it.

>>535496982
WOLOLO
Nuclear Gandhi
>"99% chance to hit"
King Harlaus
Karl Franz
MASTERWORKS ALL YOU CAN'T GO WRONG
POTTIS
H o n k !
the 'sex
Liz

desu a lot of the recycling is because slow generals that used to be in the VGL migrated there

>>535502214
Explain the last two then

>>535502461

>>>/vmg/1273156 It's still up after two years. And was moved from /v/ by the janny

>>535502214
Most of these had their threads moved to the /v/alkans because they couldn't sustain /vg/'s thread speed, so they no longer belong to the /vg/ divegrass team.

Teams for this feel?

>>535502808
No nigga I meant the slow generals part, I don’t think they fit into that category

>>535502214
/civ4xg/, /twg/, /tf2g/, /alg/, and /fgoalter/ are all still /vg/ generals. And /ss13g/ and /ddg/ were still on /vg/ at the time they were added to their respective /v/alkan rosters.

>>535503204
>Delaware
Wait, that's a real place? I thought it was just the name of the grape tasting soda.

>>535503748
Yeah it's the first state. Which is the only interesting fact about it.

>>535503472
>/civ4xg/, /twg/, /tf2g/, /alg/, and /fgoalter/ are all still /vg/ generals.
For now. At least three of them will die soon or relocate somewhere else.

>>535503748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK_FiRm6ZK8

>>535504073
2 more weeks

>>535504073
what's your fanfiction.net account? I'm curious to see more of your works

>>535504073
You'll be surprised. Sometime after the hack, /vg/ got changed to have 20 threads per page instead of 15.

>>535503748
>Since the turn of the 20th century, Delaware has become an onshore corporate haven whose corporate laws are deemed appealing to corporations; over half of all New York Stock Exchange-listed corporations and over three-fifths of the Fortune 500 are legally incorporated in Delaware. Over 90% of all U.S. based companies that went public in 2021 incorporated themselves in Delaware.
This is the only reason

it's august 17th already, why aren't we culling /ag/lel down to 64 teams

>>535504524
you tell me

>>535469521
Kekypow!

>>535504524
what would you do with the extra ~10 teams that submitted stuff already

>>535504939
remove the ones I don't like

Card for Rigglemania 2025 Night 2:

>rape VS EoS Soon
/cm/ Phil VS Mystery Nigga
You Should Krill Yourself Now VS Fetus Bye Club
Tag match (Jersey City Motor Club w/Messi, /sp/ beat /tv/) VS Bane and Palpatine (w/ Darth Jar-Jar) - Extreme Rules
Billy Herrington VS Mystery Nigga (forma de dartboard)
Main Event - MotM Award Elimination Chamber Tie Breaker: Trolled to Death (/b/) vs Pajeet (/biz/) vs Alex Jones (/pol/) vs TSUUUUUUU (/sp/) vs That Fucking Guy (/tg/) vs Chinese Tour Group (/trv/)

Card will be going liv Soon™

>>535480867
He's implying that you need to be braindead to like 16 and that there's a lot of braindead people here.
He forgot to tip his fedora.

>>535504524
Because most of the remaining teams have AGL regulars who just need to be raped into export submission and there'll be enough backups to fill in the little that's left after that

>>535505184
Is this a fun watch

>>535505184
You shit your pants this time?

>>535497093
every good bait contains a half truth

I’ll give my zoer wife a creampie for every game her team wins.

>>535506109
how many polys is that

>>535506392
yes

Meanwhile in gookshit

GARBAGE BIN CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING: RIGGLEMANIA 2025 (Night 2 of 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FacehYk9P5Y&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD

>>535506524
damn. and i felt bad about some of my players having 50-60k

>>535506524
>check the model
>480k of those verts are individually modeled beard hairs

>>535504073
/alter/ will die because they are running out of people to surprise drop the team at sign ups.

>>535504524
The deadline is PST. There's still 6 hours.

>>535504524
If you really need to jingle some keys until it closes, start posting the formations.

U
DA
MAN
SEFF

>>535507279
>went through my export again and felt retarded for putting players out of position because I can't tell the difference between LMF/RMF and LWF/RWF
>have time to fix it
Neat

My AI waifu is telling me you guys are fags.

SAAARS

>>535513158
Why should I believe her

>>535515369
Well are you a fag?

>>535513158
She's just saying that because I wouldn't fuck her STD-ridden pussy, that whore.

>>535422820
shouldn't it be /aco/ wearing fuck /admin/ kits, its not like /lit/ maintains the wiki, they don't even maintain their own page

>>535519175
>check wiki
Incoming just jumps in and does the final ranking in a sea of IEM edits, putting /lit/ ahead of /aco/

>>535522668
dabbingutorrent.jpeg

this is what the japanese like? nigga this is slop, actually terrible, fucking western kids cartoons' low diff this garbage

>>535494167
what the fuck

>>535504524
from 3 hours before the ""deadline""
NEEDS EVERYTHING: /avgn/, /bird/, /newgame!/, /porter/, /uru/, /siivagunner/
NEEDS TACTICS: /bill/
NEEDS AESTHETICS: /fgg/, /gamedle/, /gmc/, /watchmen/, /xmen/
NEEDS MUSIC: /bill/, /famguy/, /fgg/, /gamedle/, /gmc/, /hi3/, /random/, /seinfeld/, /watchmen/, /xmen/
NEEDS EVERYTHING (but requested an extension :)): /allages/, /gpw/, /millennium/, /vtlog/
If you're in the first row and have literally nothing by draw time without showing signs of life (which avgn has done so they're fine) I will take you out back and shoot you
im more surprised they let wayjay sign up a team and not surprised at all he can't put any effort into it even when this team literally played an AGL on pes 17.

>>535527024
>only about 10 teams still MIA before deadline
>about half of them are actively being worked on
Pretty impressive desu

>>535527024
nomo giving backshots? damn

There are many rats in this world I want to fuck.

>>535529205
would you fuck Suule

Why is Itsuki so fat

>>535529669
Who?

>>535503472
damn, so you're saying that some memes are consistent across multiple different groups?
what a concept, this has never happened before

>>535527024
wayjay not following through should surprise nobody
dude survived a near-fatal car crash and has legit permanent brain damage now
really they should've just prevented him from signing up

when draw

>>535535926
liv now on the cytube, there's drawing happening

>>535536216
how fucking long is this going to take i want to watch the videos

You are the undertale of being a good person

>>535478941
>>535486131
someone should BE and 3d print these.
id give you 30 bux for each

any other teams for this feel?

>>535542063
this would be a cool gimmick for /ag/
tryhard formation with every player being OOP

>>535542504
/FroggerP/

Here's your 2025 Autumn winner
payback for 2023 SBC Final Boss match

>>535550849
spoon more like

>>535416364
>/zzz/bro guy stay watching

>>535553614
god how i wish there'd be an updated version of this, this is 10 years old now

>>535556982
the problem is gathering a list of moments from the last 10 years, if i tried to pick out my personal favorites i'd get called out for missing X Y and Z but if i tried to ask people for their suggestions we could have an overly-long list
i'd love to be the change but going about it is not easy

one idea i've always had is to do it year by year (with the exception of 2011-2013 which would be condensed into one video) and i was even working on it once upon a time but i've lost the list

>>535558231
you make it sound like it's much more complex than it really is, just ask people for suggestions, trim down the list to keep the most popular ones, I think that people have come up with similar lists in the past so if you can dig them up in the archive (like https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/491679106/#491758038) that'll give you a basis to work with
frankly a flawed list (no list is flawless because people's picks for memorable moments will always be different from each other) is better than nothing at all

You could set up a google form and just ask for suggestions by year, its output can be saved as .csv

>>535550836
Funny thing is that Frogger signed up /siivagunner/ and yet they still have fucking nothing posted: no tactics, aesthetics, or music

/admin/'s ruling on /cm/ was fair IMO but, if I were a member of /admin/, I'd have /cm/ run that shitty GP-CPM export for Winter rather than give them a new auto. Let's see if that export can luckshit its way out of group again

formations doko?

>>535556837
>>535556982

>>535558731
>>535558983
i still feel like doing it year by year would be the best way to do it so that you can have as many moments as possible
as for setting up a form, maybe i could try it in autumn during the cup season, making it three questions (year it happened in, what is your favorite 4cc moment, optional video link) seems like a reasonable format

>>535553614
>>535556837
this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ImWkol5vfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGrsrvGympk

>>535561797
formations for what

/porter/ /siivagunner/ and /uru/ missed the deadline. They have until the draw to submit anything or else /xmas/, /barrescue/ and /teamgpt/ take their places.

teams like this?

>>535566301
kill all zoomers

"there is no way froggerp will get away with it again" — tournament organizers shortly before chadderp gets away with it again

what's frogg erp? you erp as frogs?

>>535565786
>They have until the draw
in how many hours will the draw begin (im not the maker of any of these teams just want to watch it)

>>535567501
Cup time today. 3 hours.

>>535568297
thanks :)

>vtl drama
shan’t be caring

>>535563097
i've been meaning to make an updated version of the anthems video for the 15 year anniversary, just need to make a wallpaper like that

>>535568297
link?

>>535569443
look at wiki page

>>535564726
agl

It's no longer the 10th.

It's the 11th (now 11.5), and on the 11th (unfortunately), /vmg/ fell down.

Block World - Boss Battle Brainrot

>>535568542
When you do that, please add a section for Inactive/ded teams that have played at least once in the 4cc but with the songs being played half as long

bors...

most abysmal dogshit wiki page award: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//OKFAMS/

>>535574836
Better than yours

>>535574836
When did they get to 9 fucking /vt/lels, didn't they start doing that shit 2 years ago?

>>535574836
enter
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//wowg/

>>535573268
i think it'd be best to include all the teams that have ever played in one wallpaper, sure it'd be weird to have both /pw/ and /asp/ on the same wallpaper but it's an homage to the cup

>>535574751
What is this from?

>>535575786
Sovl

>>535577619
https://youtu.be/GZxYpBwSoS0

Teams for this feel?

>>535577927
The sovl...take me back...

>>535578079
/f/

>>535566793
Yeah
>*You can feel my hot breath against your neck as I softly ribbit in your ear*

22 minutes

I can't wait, my hands are shaking
My hands are shaking, but I'm still shooting
I'M STILL SHOOTING

>>535586176
until what

>>535587509
The year's premium circlejerk spectacular, be there or be queer

which cytube channel will the AGL draw be on

>>535588272
/r/agleague im pretty sure

>>535588272
vtl channel

>>535587802
that's not narrowing it down at all

>>535588272
I too would like to know

AGL draw is LIV

>>535588272
>>535588672
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9:_Faggots_at_the_Bar#Channels

cytube/r/agleague
LIV

which agl would you fuck?

A single mother will, sooner or later, return to her child's biological father, either directly or in secret.
That bond between them is impossible to break, no matter how hard you try. And even if it weighs you down, there will be moments when they have intimacy again, because their connection is still alive. It will happen in secret, without you knowing...
On their scale of priorities, you'll always be in fourth place:
1. Herself.
2. His children.
3. The father of his children.
4. Finally, you.
If any single mother reads this, don't waste your time saying that "only a real man stays with a single mother". Lies. A man with principles does not put himself in that situation.
In the end, the simps are the ones who end up suffering. If you as a man think you are a saviour or a hero, your end will be without glory. Don't wear the white knight cape.
Choose your battles wisely bro...

>>535589236
>The father of his children.
>his

Group Tryhard has 2 Mabel teams, 1 Alex team, and /doog/

No Boris challenge for /sp/?

Who's the gay sounding one that is not QD or DF?

>>535590225
Hinano Sensei

>>535590368
She's not there

>>535590225
Freakie

>>535590368
>KWAB-sensei

/4ccg/ - /random/ opening match, we better fucking win this

>>535590473
It's not freakie or Ramen either.

this stream is 8 people with the shittiest mics in the world all talking over each other

>>535591195
I know, it's great

Is there a way to lower the size of the emotes?

>>535591195
When I listen I feel like the /ag/ bros are my friends but they don’t like me

>>535575786
>|}
kino

When do the games start

Didn't AGL cytube have a custom layout?

Did they nerf /4ccg/? I missed it

>67 connected users
thats a lot for agl ngl

>>535592750
I guess it broke in the year of no use

>>535592671
friday
>>535592843
nope

Which voice is DF

>>535594784
the worst one

what is bro doing there

>>535595020
borisbro btw

>>535595061
Gold Silver Crystal?

>>535595020
Boris...

>>535595061
he doesn't use 4chan

>>535595463
Gay Sex Club

>>535589878
/doog/ is a /mlp/ cabal team.

>>535596851
/4ccg/

>>535596851
/essex/

>>535596851
gotta be /zzz/

[Question] What is your pick, as a general, for the winner of /ag/ league 9?

I pick.... VTL team #8514!

>>535596851
/essex/

>>535596851
/kspg/. My pick is representative of the entire /4ccg/.

>>535596851
Here is the team list

>>535596851
>>535596907
/pfg/

>>535596884
forgot your trip cipher
>>535596925
forgot your trip aquantis

>>535597042
Hmm, yes I see.

>>535597042
O kurwa

>>535597042
POLSKA GUROM

okay, 'ccg. name 3 teams you're excited to see that is not /yourteam/

>>535597859
/battlebus/, /copalib/, /kotfc/

>>535597859
/histeam/
/herteam/
/theirteam/

>>535597859
/4ccg/
/4ccg/
/4ccg/

>>535597859
/kanker/
/mp/
/mong/

>>535597997
not from a 1st world country btw

>>535597859
/clowncar/
/monke/
/xmas/

>>535597859
winners of AGL17, /vr/

>>535597859
/battlebus/, /coe33/, /agriculture/

>>535597859
/rabi/
/essex/
/kotFC/

>>535597859
/NND/, /ska/, /pedalem/
gusic 3 can't come soon enough

so SURELY our manager cant do worse than last time /4ccg/ played in /ag/ league? right?

>>535599050
>bong
/4ccg/ will die as a general

>>535599050
sgbitch is at the wheel so we are screwed

>>535599197
So this is how he plans to curry favour with admin...

>>535590225
It was probably me :(

>>535599512
It wasn't you either. It was some euro or SEA voice.

>>535599353
whos gonna take over when he retires after game 1? do we have a backup manager?

>>535599613
It was probably Lazy

>>535597042
can someone post a higher quality version of this?
i understand that low quality cup needs low quality streams but come on

>>535597859
/SRT/
/SRT/
/SRT/

>>535599720
I didn’t realize Lazy was in /ag/

>>535599859
This is the original screenshot I took

>>535599353
>>535599197
The faggot literally said: “I’m not in any lolcow list” last thread
Fucking funny

>>535597042
>>535600919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos

Would a responsible brother allow his younger sister to become a vtuber?

>>535600919
holy shit can any of the /ag/ fags post the original screencap

>>535601275
thank you god, have flan

ok but where is the news on vgl pes version?

>>535601545
19 after 17 lost bigly in the poll

My zoer wife will win and get banned!

>>535589225
Mack big black cock

>>535601275
which groups are you looking forward to watching 4ccg?

>>535602230
based /zzz/bro

What teams got nerfed? Shan't be watching the VOD.

>>535601651
VGLco refused to accept the L so it's just 17 and that poll will never be mentioned again

>>535602756
everyone in group T ryhard
and /essex/ got a nerf and a slap on the wrist for fielding 23 height abuse players

>>535603058
>teams that needed nerfed
>mabel team
>mabel team
>alex team
>/mlp/ manager team
im not surprised

>>535603058
/doog/ and /tnm/ weren't nerfed they were just put in there for metafagging. /hi3/, /wonderland/ and /essex/ got punished and /4ccg/, /nam/ and /aa/ had what looked like honest mistakes fixed.

>>535600369
Going off by voices in that call

Denko
Ramen
Mack
Mantis
Lazy
Dragonfag
Drdtroit
Aria
QD
Freakie Streakie
Groudon
PWJP

Exports post when???

>>535603675
Also Marqod

>>535601491
personally i prefer 2hus with big tits

>>535603930
i got you homie

>>535603675
So the troon that was talking was KWABria all along? Kekypow!

>>535604427
why is she sucking toilet dick

reso have you tried retiring from /vg/ and playing a real sport
https://x.com/BattleByrd/status/1956491936358879267

>>535603618
was the honest mistake of sgbitch forcing his management into us fixed?

>>535604721
mein gott ist da shopping cartwaffen

>>535604278
>no /boobhus/ in Genso Cup 2
unserious competition

>>535605408
Should have BEEn

>>535605408
unironically BEE

>>535605540
>>535605771
BEE? Boobhus should be at least GEEs.

>>535604721
this is just like watching benuldies

>>535605771
>There are faggots who don't like breasthous

>12 teams
>not a single 2hu hentai team
I don't know who to be disappointed in most

>>535606827
The dude who wanted to make the /hentaihu/ team suddenly stopped existing

>Team of the tournament
1. /his/ (34)
2. /sp/ (k/24)
3. /b/ (5)

>Most improved team
1. /r9k/ (19)
2. /b/ (14)
3. /his/ (11)

>Underdog/Surprise of the Tournament
1. /r9k/ & /b/ (17)
2. /tg/ (15)
3. /his/ (9)

>At Least You Tried
1. /mlp/ (22)
2. /f/ (20)
3. /d/ (16)

>Most Exciting Team
1. /his/ (28)
2. /b/ (10)
3. /sp/ (9)

>Best New Kits
/wsg/ Newports

>Best Model
/his/ >historically speaking

>Best Overall Aesthetics
1. /mlp/ (20)
2. /wsg/ (10)
3. /f/ (9)

>Best Anthem
1. /sp/ I MUST BE THE GREATEST

>Best Goalhorn
/sp/ Wavin Flag

>Best Alt-horn
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>Best Chants
/sp/

>Match of the Tournament
/his/ - /sp/

>Biggest Upset
/pw/ - /r9k/

>Goal of the Tournament
/a/ Pierce the Heavens' diving header vs /biz/

>Biggest Spaghetti Moment
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU's offside goal in the final

>Best Player of the Tournament
Messi

>Worst Player of the Tournament
Git Gud

>Pulitzer
Pic related

>>535607207
Neat

>>535607207
>Best alt horn
>Not the DOMINATION horn
Dogshit auties

>>535607207
>pulitzer is two models from nearly 10 years ago interacting with each other
Aestheticsissies BTFO

>>535607976
*rapes you*

>>535607762
FBMs are cool and all, but having in-game faces makes better screencap material since the players' facial expression isn't frozen

>>535607976
what's the worst group

>>535608608
the one that no one cares about, fitting name

>>535608608
group No one cares
>mercbrush
>/u/ team
>blue archive team
>blue archive team

>>535607207
chat is this real?

>>535608828
more than being >/u/team it's because of >KWABa

>>535607976
inexplicable group name. who is jorking it to kengan. isnt that like baki tier homo series

>>535608828
the /u/ team is a Taba team

>>535608608
Group no one cares and rightfully so.

>>535608556
this is the reason I like /lit/, Nael and the sad old guy are peak

>>535609103
well the wiki does say "faggots at the bar", everyone in /ag/ is gay as sin, so are you surprised that they jerk it to homo shit?

Prow's dead baby got taken out of its grave and got used in a voodoo ritual by Tablack.

>>535607207
Why were people so surprised about /r9k/?

>>535609396
hmmmmmm that does make sense

>>535607207
>>Goal of the Tournament
>/a/ Pierce the Heavens' diving header vs /biz/

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/533589378/#533676680
Uhh...... your response?

>>535607207
>/sp/ not team of the tournament
>/mlp/ at least you tried/best aesthetics
Otherwise, the auties are fine

>>535608608
what's the best group

>>535610135
group a

>>535610015
/sp/ games were not as electric as /his/ to be fair.

>>535610135
A or M

>>535610413
GIVE ME FREEDOM
GIVE ME FIRE
GIVE ME /tg/
OR I EXPIRE

>>535609875
Based grudgechad

>>535609551
A weird defensive autopilot made by drunken Sou bumbling into final day and giving /r9k/ their first elite final day appearance after choking out a good looking /pw/, They also dumpstered /u/ basically twice (the first time /u/ only won due to benuldies).

>>535589225
Aria

>>535607207
Were the kit runner ups anywhere close? I liked the new /jp/ kit

>>535609875
I don't care for flatties, but I would make an exception for suika

>>535611965
/jp/ was the runner-up with 20 less votes, almost half of the votes in that category were for the Newports kit

>>535612553
Alright thanks

>>535609103
/gsc/ should've gone here

>>535609875
Sometimes when I can't sleep at night I wonder how one would attempt to explain the NHH x Japanese Goburin mashup /f/ used in the garbage day against /mu/ to a normal person

>>535613831
Would you attempt explaining the cup to a normal person?

>>535614732
>People modify a decade old soccer game to see dumb shit happen onscreen
Not that hard, senpai.

>>535614732
>Internet community plays a soccer game with custom models
Not really that hard

>>535614732
Not him, but I have told people about what I'm doing by just sticking to talking about people managing virtual football teams and not mentioning what the league actually is.

>>535614902
>>535614953
>also we have a video of a guy wiggling his inflated ballsack around

>>535614732
I'm not a /gd/ manager so no

>>535615128
That's not the cup that's /comfy/

>>535615304
And at least two thirds of /admin/

>>535615437
The question was explaining the cup to a normal person not explaining all the inner workings and stuff adjacent to the cup you fucking autist

>>535615607
I'm not even him lmao

>>535615709
I will inflate your ballsack

>>535610413
yah that's why there is a most exciting category dr retardo

>>535615889
giwtwm

>>535610015
>/sp/ - 6-1-0, +11 GD
>/his/ - 6-0-1. +15 GD
I mean if there was ever a cup for this award to not be "literally just the winner" it was probably this one

>>535617253
>6-1

https://implying.fun/LoT/
Lads on Tour is up

>>535614732
I was talking with my aunt during a family gathering when she mentioned how she didn't get the appeal of football as she saw all the men watching a match on TV. I told her I agreed and that I watched a virtual football event where people online gather and watch AI play against each other in a tournament with no real stakes involved instead.
When I said that, she gave me a look of confusion and disgust that was even worse than the one she had before. I still remember it to this day.

What am I supposed to watch before the AGL starts

>>535617334
>/sp/ created for 18-1
>pulls off the 4cc 18-1
pottery

>>535610015
What's the argument for /sp/ being team of the tournament besides "they won"? Because if the autie should automatically go to the winner then it shouldn't be an autie

>>535617795
>>535615128

>>535617795
why before the AGL? Don't you need something to watch during the AGL too?

>>535617863
/sp/ isn't the first team to beat an undefeated team in a final and the 4cc equivalent of 18-1 will always be [s4s]-/mlp/ in World Cup

>>535618328
That's not even a final you dumbass.

>>535617795
Pick a team of the 96 and I will find a video for you to watch

>>535619274
/4ccg/

>>535618328
>/sp/ isn't the first team to beat an undefeated team in a final
Yes, but they're only the third to beat a 6-0-0 team in an elite final (/wg/, /v/). It's rare!

>>535619274
I rolled /baldi/

>>535617795
>>535617382

>>535619848
>that /fgog/ v /dbg/ clowncar

>>535617863
it is pretty funny but the real 4cc 18-1 would be like a 4 point 0 GD team in 2nd place in their group taking out a 6-0 megamarket like /mlp/ or /sp/ in an elite final

>>535621739
Hey that almost sounds like Summer 18 /vg/ (although /sp/ did lose to /sci/ in groups but iirc it was a meme game where both teams ran OOP forwards)

>>535620837
That was the best match of that invitational, they should have carried on that energy and just let every match be a clowncar where everyone was shitface drunk.

>>535623156
Impossible to get a clowncar of people to watch any other matchup

>>535617717
Your aunt sounds like a bitch.

>>535617717
Your aunt sounds raped.

>>535617717
Have you ever heard of hiding your powerlevel

>>535617717
Your aunt realized her sibling failed as a parent of course she would give you that look.

>>535617717
Your aunt sounds based. You sound raped and bitched.

>>535617717
Is your aunt single

>>535617717
>I don't think this semen slurping sport is for me.
>I agree, I do my semen slurping online
What did you think was going to happen?

>>535617717
>she saw all the men watching a match on TV
Maybe she was upset all the men in her family were faggots

Friday's games will be streamed by QD

VTL9 roster

>>535609103
Sometimes Daro can draw women.

>>535607207
Still find it rigged that pic related wasn't a selection

>>535628574
The poll was GR15 compliant, unlike your post

>>535628574
see you in three days

>>535627739
Genuinely dimeless.

>/vr/league squeezed between /ag/lel and VTL
Please watch our league

>>535628775
>>535628786
So who should I put my rent payment to? I feel guilty living rent free

/gsc/ manager seems cute :3

Which VTL team do I root for if I like dark horses with medium sized fanbases?

>>535627739
What are the off site teams?

Which VTL team do I root for if I like fat futa cocks?

>>535630439
/wah/ probably? Not sure.
>>535630756
there is none this vtl that I can think of, closest I can think of since you said fat is /ag/.

>>535630439
this faggot likes horses

which /vt/ team has the most animalgirls

Which VTL team do I root for if I don't like vtubers?

triple zed bro btw

Which VTL team do I root for if I have to be reminded I have to post in English?

>>535631254
The AI one, vtubers hate it.

>>535631454
alex btfo

>>535631454
/warkop/

>>535631472
Which one is this

>>535631454
The ESL kingdom will invade the VTL republic

>>535633606
vtl am being needing brave soldiers to defending against esls

>>535419832
theres a real problem at the moment with information incest, or ai poisoning
every relevant piece of information used to make ai was before 2023, now half the internet is ai
that means all the new information used to "improve" ai us using ai information
if youve ever constantly resiszed a bmp, or saved a jpg 20 times and seen what happens, this is whats happening to AI in real time
sure with new hardware they could improve, but in terms of learning theyve reached their peak cause theres no new information to gain
this is why people have been so desperately crawling for new non ai info, like what happened to our wiki, thats how desperate they are for completely non ai information channels
their probably is a way forward for them hell , china managed it, but it would been for every new improvement in hardware they would need to go back to the 1990-2023 information and remake a new model everytime