Thread 535470952

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Previously on /coopg/ : >>535141941

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Killing Floor 3: lol, lmao even

Abyssus:
Is out now - launch trailer
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>Acknowledged but not really discussed
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>Future games
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There is nothing on Atoma more dangerous than disappointing me

I want to get free
talk to me
I can feel you falling

>>535471394
Is that some shitty fr*nch song?

>darktide still has no red weapons
what the hell is fatsharks problem

>>535471908
We're not sympathetic to reds around here

me literally unga
team unironically BUNGA

>>535471603
ask your mom, she loves this band (assuming she's white)

>2500 penace points left
yamete....porfavor...

>>535471957
>ask your mom
Because it's a song for old white people?

>>535470952 (OP)
Rats?
DID I ASK FOR MORE RATS?

Is there a way to make creature spawner show damage numbers?

>leveling weapons
this system is big shit, vermintide better i think

>>535471908
I want to believe it's meant to be released when we hit some plot point and get weapons made with or infused with Atoman Steel. But, I think the anon from the last thread that was saying that they might be withholding content until the game hits a low enough point and then releasing something big to boost numbers back up to something more healthy for them

>>535471908
For what purpose? You can already easily have perfect weapons
They need to rremove H*avoc and fix mission selection now, it's due another rework, maybe two, until we can finally select whichever mission we want, with whatever modifiers we want and on whichever difficulty we want

>>535474246
>You can already easily have perfect weapons
Genuinely what is the point of the "weapon stats capped at 80%" system? It's completely retarded and Fatshark has not done a single thing with it.

>>535472867
You can't even sprint in verminturd lmao

>>535476762
vermintide players dont run from enemies

>>535476910
Don't run towards them either

>>535477245
Are you restarted?

>>535478417
They can't run

>get darktide for 10 dollars
>reach damnation
>my devil sword(320 item level) does fuck all damage
im missing something

>>535472867
Darktide needs a conversion system like dust in vermintide

>>535479543
Items can get up to level 500. Most melees and weapons won't do good damage until you have GOOD blessings set up for them.
But also, Devil's Claw is an infamously weak weapon. It does extremely poor damage to just about every armor type, and doesn't even think of penetrating Carapace. Use something else, until they buff it again.

>>535479543
Yeah you're using the worst starting weapon in the game and you don't even have it maxed out

>>535479543
Don't listen to the retards telling you the wep is bad, it just doesn't deal with flak and carapace well. the parry is excellent and it has some of the best hordeclear in the game
That said it needs the correct blessings and maxed bars to achieve this so you aren't gonna do well with it yet. Also need to use different solutions than your melee for flak and carapace. I've used the thing on H40 and it's one of the better weps on there due to the parry scaling incredibly well

I-it's over isn't it? We aren't getting a good quality co-op game anytime soon aren't we? None of those youtube popular games either with 0 replay value that are all about funny moments on camera for friendless people like that peak one or whatever it's called.

Where Vermintide 3? Where Killing Floor 3 but good? Where something else but good? Almost all of these are meh? It's just shooter after shooter with nothing interesting in it, just appealing to the same group that plays stuff like Rust or DayZ with hours of just running around to build a base only to have it destroyed while you're asleep. Except these cut to the chase but miss the mark of the like's of Vermintide 2 and Killing Floor 2. Yawn borinnnnnnngggggggggggg, I'm not one of those normies using it as their desperate parasocial attempt of finding friendship, the same one's who were unironically the same types that would call us friendless losers for playing video games, oh the irony.

i hope you've been practicing with the dclaw parry in preparation for the dsword "rework". you don't want to get mogged by parrygods, right anon?

>>535484360
Have you ever even used the parry? It's not a timing thing

>>535484360
It's the most generous timing ever. It will be cool to finally have a good weapon with the parry mechanic, just because I particularly despise maniac ragers.

>time to become a parry GOD
>equip sword
>first game
>smite psyker on team
>ok well heh, maybe next time
>next game
>taunt ogryn
>heh, maybe next time
...

>>535484593
It's absolutely a timing thing, anon. Did you think that all parries are identical? Because they're not. There's a sweet spot to the timing (0.3 seconds before the enemy's attack would land) and if you do your parry at that point instead of earlier, your counterattack will have massively increased damage and crit chance as well as significantly reduced block cost. That's why people saying "Devil's Claw is bad" are just outing themselves as not having actually gotten gud with it; while it's obviously not going to have the consistent damage output of something objectively busted like the DS, it's still more than capable of oneshotting CRUSHERS, bulwarks, ragers, and pretty much anything else that isn't a boss. In other words: Anybody can be a parrychad, but only those who truly put in the effort can become a parryGOD.

>>535488193
You don't actually have to block things that often in this game. This isn't Ratclick

>>535481027

What do you bring to deal with the heavy armor spam? Bolter?

>>535488325
Block cost is tied directly to stamina, is what lets you do a parry without getting staggered or hit, anon...

>>535488342
As per >>535488193 you can oneshot armored units with a well-timed parry headshot. Otherwise, bolter with throwing knives for the quickswap animation cancel is good.

>>535488193
not him and I've been using the devils claw and enjoying this and I havent even noticed this. wtf

>>535479543
It's not really the easiest weapon to use
Especially with bad blessings

why do I keep getting the same maps over and over again in darktide

>>535491407
Could be worse, at least rotten armor ended

>thunder hammer
you know this is big shit weapon

/v/>>>718265634
it's fucking over

>>>/v/718265634
fuck me this is the post

>>535488528
Okay? I'm not using my stamina blocking

>Autoguns, lasguns, thunder hammer, Catechan sword, etc. all need to be buffed to make them usable
>Fartshart is just going to nerf the dueling sword and plasma gun and call it a day

>>535496363
Didn't you see the community reception to the leaked notes? They're scared as fuck of backlash now.

Why is the spearhead boltgun only able to push 1 enemy but other guns can push more than 1?

>>535496593
The dueling sword does need an armor damage nerf but other weapons need to be brought up nearer to it or everyone is just going to switch to the combat knife for the next 6 months until another balance patch makes something else the new best weapon. I'm not even convinced that the plasma gun needs a nerf outside of maybe ammo capacity, it definitely doesn't need its damage reduced. It's also one of vet's very few havoc viable options and vet is already not in a good place there, being carried solely by ammo aura and piss toughness.

>>535477245
I see you're unfamiliar with the old ranger trick.

i have given up, farming penace points is too boring

>>535498287
>Everyone is going to switch to combat knife
lol
lmao
that weapon is actually a high risk weapon and requires skill to use

>>535498287
>havoc viable options and vet is already not in a good place there, being carried solely by ammo aura and piss toughness.
Yes, bad vets.
A good vet removes shooters and disablers before they get to do anything. If you've ever been overwhelmed by a group of flamers, chances are it's because you had no vet, or your vet was an incompetent piece of shit.
Also krak grenades fill an important, powerful niche with rainbow buff modifiers because they can kill small groups of enemies outright without allowing any buffs to become a problem.
I don't get why this general constantly shits on vet, but it must be a tremendous skill issue, and/or a complete lack of havoc 40 experience.

Helbore Mk4 is so fucking good in havocs it's insane, it's crazy how easy it was to make this weapon so good

My gripes with the game
>Chain weapons suck
>Too many allclass filler weapons that will never be used (Autoguns)
>Endgame just because spamming CC+freeshield abilities against metalwalldeathball
>Zealot unironically has 1 build only and its incredibly bland (Crit melee) aside from abilities.
>Vet and Zealot share grenade types and abilities. This means, Passively the only unique identity Vet has is infinite lasgun spam and unique ability is wallhacks vet.
>Grimoires/Sculptures/Matyrskulls/Secret levelenragers have no reason to be collected beyond one-time achievements.
>Weapon customization is bland, you just slap the same perks and blessings, very few are actually functional enough to create new playstyle variance.
>Important audio ques are constantly lost

>>535498287
>plasma gun
>ammo nerf
that weapon infamously eats up every single ammo tin and pouch on the map. that's the last nerf it could possibly use.

Opinions on abyssus and deadzone Rogue?

>>535501719
>>Zealot unironically has 1 build
The optimal havoc build only has two things in common with "the 1 build", and those are taking the 5 second invuln, and using the same keystone.
The havoc stealth build also looks different, and can viably (semi-optimally) run keystoneless.
>only unique identity Vet has is infinite lasgun spam and unique ability is wallhacks vet.
The class that uniquely uses guns orders of magnitude better than every other class, has absolutely obscene amounts of grenade regen, and has an entire keystone dedicated to being a team-wide force multiplier, has no identity. Sure.
God you're retarded.
>ques
cues.

>>535501739
How else are you going to nerf it without making it feel like complete shit or making it useless? If you nerf the damage it's going to be too slow to kill specials or gunners and people will just use the bolt pistol or helbore.

>>535502674
Unironically transfer the power from the M1 to the M2 and then more. Make it so that the secondary fire actually has a function in either greater sustain OR greater burst damage than the primary fire. So for example, the M1 is best for scab/dreg gunners through headshots and trash infantrymen through bodyshots, and the M2 is best for killing ogryns, bosses and for cleaving dozens of enemies. As that gun stands, you just spam M1 because the M2 pales in every statistic other than terrain penetration.

>>535502674
>How else are you going to nerf it
Lower the rate of fire on the primary, and maybe give it some sort of cleave falloff on the primary so the damage starts dropping after the third or so target. Buff the secondary to compensate.
The plasma gun is nowhere near as overpowered as all the shitters and redditors make it out to be. I'm sure some NA havoc-26-let is going to call me twenty different shades of brown for saying this, but bolter is the dominant weapon. Infinite cleave may be conceptually overpowered, but that isn't the veteran's job in havoc, and when it is, frag grenades do that. The cleave makes it excellent for sniping targets behind armor blobs, but cleaving armor blobs for its own sake isn't what you should do with it.

>ogryn still doesnt have crusher cosmetics
fatshart...

>>535502553
The chorus and stealth builds all run the same crit package because all three of Zealots keystones do the exact same shit (Crit, toughness regen and melee damage) Just achieved in slightly different ways with different scaling. You go down the same pathing nearly every time.
>Veteran
Ogryn is also a nadespam gunspam class and everyone can use most guardsman rifles if they really want to.
Having multipliers being his unique aspect is unspeakably bland design. Yes I would love to play the walking statstick.

>>535503158
IMO Helbore is THE best. It ticks every single box other than maybe safety and speed. S+ boss damage, two-shots Ogryns -- even Crushers -- one-shots everything below a Crusher EVEN through pus-hardened, never runs out of ammo so your team has -1 person to worry about for ammo WHILE that person regenerates their ammo. It's just too good. But has a learning curve.

havent played darktide since launch - how many new subclasses have been introduced?

>>535503653
They changed the whole subclass system so 0

>>535479543
use another weapon

>>535503158
>The plasma gun is nowhere near as overpowered as all the shitters and redditors make it out to be.
I agree and I don't even think it needs to be nerfed. If it did get changes though I would like to see a rework like this >>535503158

>>535499040
Not. Funny.

>>535501719
>>Chain weapons suck
Only in havoc. They're very strong in auric. Especially evisc and chaxe.

>>535503871
Everything works in auric though.

>>535503545
>The chorus and stealth builds all run the same crit package because
because most chorus users are complete shit and don't acknowledge that health builds using martyr's purpose are superior, and that immolation grenades are insanely powerful.
Also purity is the best aura bar none, and not running it is either griefing, or you have 2 zealots.
I should fucking know, it's my most played and most successful class in h40.
>You go down the same pathing nearly every time.
No.
>Ogryn is also a nadespam gunspam class
Are you really going to argue semantics just to avoid being wrong?
>Having multipliers being his unique aspect is unspeakably bland design.
It is, in a way, but it allows veteran to adopt playstyles other classes physically can't. Even arbites, the class that embodies power creep, can't reliably snipe with the bolter or bolt pistol. Veteran is the defacto class for shooting things in the head. That is an entire identity. I'm sorry that you can't aim for heads, or figure out a build that has enough damage to achieve this. Maybe if you played the game for more than 120 hours before being opinionated about it.

>>535503956
great!

>>535503653
a whole new class has been released every quarter since the game came out
you do the math on how many that is

>>535504216
fucking hell I might just give it a go then

>>535503653
They completely reworked the talents and now it's a talent tree system. There are 3 different abilities, grenades, and capstones for each class so there's a fair bit to play with. However, not all abilities are equal so better builds for some classes use a lot of the same stuff

Veteran is such a shit class
Worst toughness regen
Can't just have a gun out constantly because you cannot block nor push as well as a melee
Most skills suck cock
Most guns suck dick
Every other class is better

why did no one tell me the sapper shovel has a very high finesse multiplier on its push attack?

>>535504071
Please actually read what i am saying.
>But chorus and immolation grenade
The builds are exactly the same minus ability swaps - Melee mainly with crit + toughness regen. A Chorus zealot play almost exactly the same as a Stealth or Dash zealot with the same anti-corruption tool.
>Arguing zealot and ogryn sharing ability concepts is somehow semantics
veteran and zealot are currently pidgeonholed into one task as stale a means as possible, Zealot moreso, with most vet+zealots abilities overlapping each other.

>>535505070
>worst toughness regen
That's Zealot. He can can only regenerate through ability usage and pure melee kills. Veteran can cue 20% toughness regen, stackable, for 10 seconds on elite and special kills, or an instant 15% on any ranged weakspot kill at all.
5% toughness a second as long as you don't get hit by a melee attack. And don't forget VOC having 3x more uptime than Chorus.

the map variety in darktide is just awful. everything is some dark fucking corridor

>>535505276
>The builds are exactly the same minus ability swaps
No you dumb nigger, if you take the top right melee damage cope talents, your zealot build is automatically ruined because you're running out of points to sink into the bottom. If you want to argue le epic staleness, zealot has it even worse, because any and all melee damage is just pure cope. It's a support class, whose damage comes from an unboosted, unmodified flamer, carried by the flamer being obscene. If most of your damage is melee, it's because your team isn't giving you ammo, and/or you are bad at the game, and running some shitty melee damage cope build.
Melee damage zealot is very fucking good, if you run it stealth. FotF is also fine but contributes markedly less. Chorus should never cope for damage since you're holding the fucking strobe light half the time when shit is actually going down.

>>535505397
Yes but you are 24/7 in a melee situation, only sometimes you get a giant spawn of ranged. And if you're trying to go only ranged weakspot kills and gun only, it's a nightmare. You barely have any skills as veteran to spend.

when they still refuse to buff the thunder hammer when its a warhammer game
why are devs like this

>>535505604
>you are 24/7 in a melee situation
dude I'm in havoc 40 sitting behind my ogryns and arbites and sniping everything. I am very rarely forced to pick up my shovel or sabre. Of course this means you need teammates that will enable you, which is the easiest thing ever atm because every game has an Arbitator. But seriously I am 90% ranged through my havocs.

>>535505070
>>535505604
>veteran is bad because I can't into positioning
skill issue
>but le havoc
find teammates that aren't retarded and keep melee enemies off your ass

why retarded shitters dont know how use the thammer?

>>535505824
feel like big shit when use

>>535505824
why you won't learn English sentence structure?

>>535505757
I was trying to make sapper + trying both bolt guns, and executioner + focus work. Most of the time I find random trash mobs are hitting me when I'm trying to snipe all the elites, specialists, and ranged enemies.

>>535505817
>>535505757
>have to be coddled like a princess inorder to be of use

>>535506098
If you can't solo a Havoc 40, then you can say this about yourself too. Or do you need your 3 teammates to coddle you and let you win? Coop game, retardo. See how well your Ogryn does if the gunners don't get killed.

>>535505598
Top right are the only good nodes zealot has topwise
picking up stun or immolate means wasting points on garbage nodes.
due to zealots godawful tree, you have about 5 points post keystone, except what keystone you pick doesnt really matter because again they all do the same thing. You naturally have the lowest ammo priority because of ogryn, arbites and non infinite vet

>>535505615
There aren't enough hammers in any of the warhammer games

>>535506210
i googled ogryn havoc 40 solo but couldnt find anything so maybe i'll be the first

>>535506053
Your issue here is Executioner, I'm afraid. VOC is part of the piece of the puzzle to not only making space, but also giving your teammates resources to help you. Everyone wants to be close to the Veteran with golden toughness. There's also the little things, such as if a Rager or Mutie is running at you, you can press the button and it will stagger them to give you enough space to shoot them without having to swap.
>>535506554
One guy did a solo "havoc 40" with Arbitrator but it was such a heavily modified havoc game to remove hordes and nerf bosses that it doesn't really count.

>>535506359
>cope cope cope I need damage cope useless toughness regen that does nothing in havoc cope cope
God you are so fucking clueless it actually hurts. If you can't recognize why the 20% health regen node ALONE is worth all of the right side nodes combined, you aren't even worth the effort of trying to explain it.
>flamer
>lowest ammo priority
Stay out of havoc, you're never reaching 40 anyway with how much of a mouthbreather you evidently are. You retards really need to learn to not speak on subjects you have absolutely zero understanding of.

>>535505962
just remove the special stun and it becomes goodly

>>535506653
this is some of that groid aggression I hear about

>>535506761
>acts like a complete retard
>gets uppity when called out for being retarded

>>535505615
The "warhammer"is about a specific weapon though

>>535506837
im not the guy you were quoting, you're throwing a tantrum and it's clear you can't control your emotions

>>535506649
>Your issue here is Executioner, I'm afraid. VOC is part of the piece of the puzzle
This is why veteran is shit when you are required to have this skill instead and where the DPS skill doesn't even give you top DPS.

>>535505615
the titular warhammer refers to sigmar's hammer ghal maraz
the spinoff franchise will just have to do without a badass golden hammer

>>535506914
It didn't use to be like this. Executioner was meta once, Executioner restored all your toughness once. They raped it until VOC was the only option left.

>>535506931
Was the emporer sigmar?

>>535506891
Sounds like you got second-hand offended over someone else being called shit for not climbing havoc. Stay hardstuck.

>>535507042
>Stay hardstuck
Uhhh this is a coop game

>>535507041
No, the empreor is a turk who got powers from a xeno device centuries ago and lied everyone about his origins lol

>>535507185
>No, the empreor is a turk who got powers from a xeno device centuries ago and lied everyone about his origins lol
incorrect, emperor was always the most powerful psyker mankind has produced.

What xeno device are you even refering to?

>>535498287
>being carried solely by ammo aura and piss toughness.
*and plasma gun
*and bolters
*and infantry las with infinite ammo
*and uncanny shredders
*and kraks
*and stealth (in a coordinated team)
*and iron will

>>535507275
>incorrect, emperor was always the most powerful psyker mankind has produced
nice lie and joke
>What xeno device are you even refering to?
I'll give you two clues: it's golden and emperor sits on it

>>535507293
>infantry las
I meant the recon las but infantry honestly works for the same reason with an autoclicker

>>535507042
I have been 40 for months
Everything you're saying makes 0 sense, I'm pretty sure you're projecting

>>535507429
you are a dumb dumb who dont know lore

>>535506653
>flamer lowest ammo priority
Unironically yes, compared to rumbler.
>I need damage useless toughness regen
the topright node path has the best toughness regens, 15% toughness for spamming dodge you then get anti-corruption path and the chastise or stealth path, preferably chastise because duelist. then you get keystone of choice as keystone is irrelevant.

>>535495872
Ok, good for you, but being able to parry ten CRUSHER attacks and a couple dozen poxnigger swings without stopping for breath is very nice.

>>535508346
>Putting such high priority on rumbler as to assume there must always be one
>He still doesn't realize that toughness investment is irrelevant when you're constantly gold, and that toughness regen is pointless when you're spamming piss anyway
Yeah you're beyond redemption. The copycat sheeple brain has fully crippled your ability to think independently.

>>535507598
>As the Fabricator General spoke, a small part of the hololith was illuminated. Crowl had no idea of the scale – the lit section might have been a few metres across, or maybe a hundred, or maybe a kilometre. ‘This is a component of the Junction. You may recognise the style of the insertion. It is non-metallic in construction, immensely strong, resistant to most forms of moulding and recasting. It is psychically charged, and forms an integral part of the region’s material function.’ The viewpoint moved a little closer, zeroing in on the illumination component. ‘Observe the markings on the casing, here.’

>The markings were runes. Not Gothic runes, not even archaic Terran.

>‘Impossible,’ said Spinoza.

>‘On the contrary,’ said the dwarf. ‘The deeper one delves, the more such inscriptions one finds. Some are of unknown provenance. Some are beyond our ability to parse. The Throne itself, the physical object that forms the core of the entire machine, is certainly not of human origin.

>>535507598
>Implying
The hints of emperor lying to everyone since long time ago isn't new, lorelet

>>535507568
there's a mentally ill guy itt who screeches hardstuck whenever someone disagrees with him and i'm actually pretty sure he doesn't even play havoc himself

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE STOP DENYING MY REQUESTS TO JOIN YOUR FUCKING HAVOC 27 GAME I WILL MAKE IT SO EASY IT'S UNREAL

I cant be assed to do my weekly 40

>>535506931
I’m pretty sure Vermintide doesn’t have any Warhammer weapon that’s done justice either

>>535507275
The only thing he’s technically lying about is the emperor being a turkoid, but everything else about his origin is up in the air

If we get a melee only class who's the best candidate and whys it sister repentia?

What's the fun mark for the force GS? It's VII, right?

>>535517097
This is the good one

>>535516730
Best melee would probably be __________ a Dreadnought __________

news for the new's ?

>>535479543
just use it correctly retard

>>535516730
For dlc sales, Space Marine; oc chapter on a penance crusade to grind themselves down on suicide missions and limited to melee.

Xenos option, Eldar Corsair here for Eldar reasons; blazing fast eldar speed to make up for lack of ranged weapon. Makes duelling sword look like power maul.

Reject option, Cyber-Beserker; All the cyborg fun of a servitor but with more personality and less ethical dilemma

>>535507429
Big E is by far the most powerful and successful Psyker to exists, it's Chaos was so afraid of him.

>>535516730
>>535524404
>melee only
Hopefully a Ruststalker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWNb7mu06As
>smoke grenades are... le bad?

>>535524404
>Space Marine
lol

>>535524447
Technically that title goes to the Old Ones and maybe Aeldari when they could actually use it properly

>>535524882
Nobody has ever said that, ever. Smokes are the most powerful Vet nade by a mile

>>535502674
>How else are you going to nerf it without making it feel like complete shit or making it useless?
Nerf the tap fire and buff the charge shots tremendeusly.
It makes no fucking sense that the plasma gun tapfire somehow has the same infinite cleave and retard high damage as the charge shot. While the plasma projectile that it fires is like the size of a fucking log which destroys like a half a horde.

>>535504071
>because most chorus users are complete shit and don't acknowledge that health builds using martyr's purpose are superior
Taking damage isn't a playstyle, you are just a shitter that's a hinderance to the team.

>>535516730
There won't be a melee only class since Darktide is about both ranged combat and melee.
Also repentia is worse than useless as an idea when the zealot exists. Zealots already having the fucking eviscerator proves that they are just meant to be stand-ins for repentia and for any type of religious nutjob.

Can anyone give a rundown of what each Dorktide class specializes in/should be focusing on doing? I dont know what to pick.

>>535531579
Unless you are in a co-ordinated team, then you need to bring something that can kill specials, hordes and armored enemies no matter what class

Is there a custom campaign based on dawn of the dead?

>>535532859
Dead before dawn is one of the oldest custom campaigns and its still kino. I think it also got a visual update in 2020 or something like that.

>>535531579
>Veteran
ranged weapons are your bread and button, your job is killing enemies with ranged weapons, you can specialize in boss killing, your grenades can also help a lot with armor
melee doesn't offer much to veteran but you can still clear hordes and do serious damage with power sword
as a rule weakspot (mostly heads) damage should be your priority
>Ogryn
you're the meatshield of the team
mulch hordes, annoy gunners, smack elites up close and be the designated revive/hacking mini game doer
ranged builds are cool and all but suffer from lack of ammo sooner or later
>Zealot
hordes, elites
melee class that relies on movement rather than fuckoff HP like Ogryn
also designated guy who can bring game back from total wipe
>Psyker
crowd control, mixed hordes,
unfortunately you're also the squishiest of all the characters
>Arbities
currently the overpowered class, can stunlock entire island of Manhattan, good survivability. free grenades
generalist class overall, not exactly boss killer but who cares if they strong in everything else

things change on highest difficulty (havoc) but this should give you some idea

>>535534543
This has been huge help in deciding, thank you.

I love build variety
I love changing up my playstyle to keep the game feeling fresh
I love having different wacky builds that are totally viable
I love arguing over which two talents are better to start with
I love having 6 points left to personal preference because they literally don't matter

>>535535068
And yet, no amount of autistic screeching about muh Cadia will carry retards through Clandestium, Rolling Steel or Hab Dreyko, whereas stealth completely invalidates those missions' objectives.

>>535535068
veteran keystones are so clumsy
>hey uh, you're not allowed to slide around or sprint unless you have scored headshot otherwise your damage falls off
>oh you forgot tag something? too bad no damage bonus for you
>you're not allowed to switch weapons as you please, better score a kill first!

>>535534543
>>Arbities [sic] lol
>not exactly boss killer
It's quite good actually. Better than other classes are if you don't build them into it.
Virtually every good build is swimming in damage buffs, so they still kill bosses very quickly with most weapons. Puncture bolts are very strong against them. Both beetus shotguns deal significant damage if you just build into them, and why wouldn't you when they're as broken as they are? Also you have infinite toughness as long as you hit the boss in the head, dog bleed deals double damage, and you have a convenient and reliable stagger button if you run dog or impact nades.

>>535535384
Veteran talents tree need rework
>Arbiter: 5 gray nodes
>Veteran 19 gray nodes

>>535520507
what if instead of sneakrat it was freakrat and instead of always sneaking-stabbing they always edging-gooning?

>>535535683
I literally cannot begin to talk about what's wrong with the tree
Every time I try to start I find something even worse to complain about
Basically: everything but shout is under powered, and the entire tree is too bottom heavy
If I say anymore I'm gonna end up writing a full length novel

>>535535683
it's ok for a node like lone wolf to have 5 nodes combined into 1 btw

>>535543241
>it loses you the dog
Yeah it is.

>>535543936
loool

So now that the dust has settled
Which is the best Arbites personality and why is it the Maul?

>>535544000
Oh you're one of those "the dog is bad" turbo retards. Good to know you're not worth talking to.

>>535544068
no, i just think the node (and the dog with it) should be gutted, considering these swedegroid faggots have previously nerfed talents on the basis of them doing too many things at once.
i'd be content with them removing the nade regen tbqh

>>535544747
I don't use lone wolf on the basis that it loses me the dog. I don't care how good the buffs on it are, the grenade regen is still the only reason to take it. It's fine. Losing the dog is a humongous tradeoff. The damage buff is inconsequential due to the math attached to it.

>>535544068
The dog is bad and not worth it to takez especially in havoc.
Take lone wolf and voltaic mines and you will be saving the entire team all the time.

>>535545374
You shouldn't need a mine every minute, and if you do, you have other issues that aren't build related
Dog is useful if you're any good at using it. Claiming it's bad is just admitting you're bad.
Remote Detonation may be bad but nobody is forcing you to use it. You don't need Lone Wolf's permission to use mines anyway.

>>535514882
>The only thing he’s technically lying about is the emperor being a turkoid
He's from modern day Turkey. Nobody cares what exact tribal migrations were going on in 10000 BC

>maelstrom
>monster spam
>3 monstrosities spawn while a single sniper is out of reach for me to kill while being bounced around by 3 monsters
>all I can do is ping it
>all of my retards die to the sniper

>>535545475
>You shouldn't need a mine every minute
And you don't, you are still able to proactively to lock down entire hordes making them useless and easy to kill.
Just throw 1 mine into a choke point when an ambush/horde starts and they can do nothing to you.

>>535548072
I agree that shock mine spam is overall more useful than the dog, but shock mines absolutely do run into situations where they don't contribute much of anything if your team is actually competent, and impact grenades and dog, both, do more then.
Also the dog is useful enough on its own. To dumb it down to retard terms, if shock mines are S-tier, dog remains A-tier.

>>535510016
>>535507429
Yeah, the Golden Throne has to be an Eldar tech (or some other Psychic Xeno tech like Fra'al). DAoT mankind wasn't a psychic species so why would they have psychic tech? Emergence of Psykers was one of the three main things which fucked over it, other two being Men of Iron rebellion and Warp getting too unstable to travel.

>>535546570
wrong, he was birthed by ænglish druids in stonehenge

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>535472785
maybe combo it with health bars mod? i don't use health bars but i assume it has dmg numbers too. The default mobs have health bars but I don't think anything spawned in with creature spawner does

>>535503158
I've never actually used the plasma in havoc, I use las pistol, bolt pistol or bolter

>>535503585
if it had any sort of sight options i would never equip anything else. It pisses me off using it, no i will not install german mans bloated mod

>>535521537
wouldnt you want 4 80's?

>>535503158
>burgers bad at games
rude dude

>>535554950
>>burgers bad at games
Yeah it puzzles me too, but burgers, while more cooperative and not usually crippled by the ESL language barrier, are also worse players individually. The most impressive retards I've seen in havoc 40, were on NA servers. I'm not sure what causes this.
Idk maybe they were south Americans playing on the wrong server. NA havoc is basically dead anyway, and I still have an easier time finding EU games even during dead hours.

>>535508346
why the fuck would you feed ammo to a rumbler?

>>535543241
eight
>demo stockpile
>trench fighter drill
>grenadier
>10% tdr node
>5% tdr node
>10% melee node
>5% range node
>5% range node
eight fucking vet nodes

>>535555203
NA west is pretty barren a lot of the time but NA east seems to have a more populated havoc community. I see a lot of the same faces playing west. Do south americans have a server?

Vetgeta sissies throwing tantrums with their flashlights i see

>>535556398
NA west has unplayable latency for yuros, while NA east can be a little choppy but ultimately fine with ~140+-20 ms. I imagine a decent amount of EU players just look for US games when EU is currently dead, because I used to be one of those players until I got burned by complete mouthbreathers one too many times.
>Do south americans have a server?
No idea, I'd have to boot the game to check.

Why is Dragon Ball Z particularly appreciated by Arabs and South Americans?

>>535540074
realistically what the fuck can you even do with vet ability nodes?
>exec stance
baked in insta weapon reload, all the highlight bullshit is one node
another mutually exclusive node elites/specials give piss toughness in small amounts to everyone maybe?
>blunt grenade
less retarded smoke effect, prevents melee enemies from doing their overhead/chain attacks while inside it, melee vulnerability maybe?

>>535556957
>until I got burned by complete mouthbreathers one too many times.
what flavor of bunga did they commit?

>>535557954
Bringing this into havoc 40 and wiping on the first horde.

>>535535683
Most Zealot blue nodes are less valuable than gray nodes

>>535558265
>americans are universally retarded
I am not surprised.
Also I've noticed that vast majority of bitching and whining of toxicity comes from the NA servers too. Just goes to show that americans are both thinskinned and incredibly retarded to play with as well.
While EU servers are mostly quiet and people play and don't say much. At best a gg if the mission is finnished or unluckily the team dies.

>>535560321
I guess we can pat ourselves on the back for being good at coop games. Sure we are de-industrialising, getting poorer, die from lack of AC, drowning in migrants and fading into economic and cultural irrelevancy, but at least it's not all bad

>>535560321
>Also I've noticed that vast majority of bitching and whining of toxicity comes from the NA servers
entirely untrue when slavgroids, balkangroids, and frankoids exist

>>535561376
Eurogroids are also the worst posters in /coopg/, and i say that as a european

>>535561543
they're mostly french arabics

>>535561752
One coopger actually played with a slavgroid shitposter from here. He talked a lot of shit and was very aggressive and insisted that he was a good psyker player. This is his gameplay

>I hate other europeans, as european
what a german thing to say, Hans

>>535562539
>hans
Not even close, Pierre

>>535562539
>>535562634
zip it, Achmed and Mohamed

>>535562881
Whiter than you, ivan

>>535562381
>Nzoni

>>535563091
Name, cosmetics and frame were all the same

>>535563191
Sure, buddy.

how come DT has the most schizoids when it comes to playing together from copeg?
played with other in VT1-2, joined DRG lobbies, literally zero complaints or trash talk
all I see is salt from you fags

Hey I'm sorry I was so rude to you, I was really drunk. I meant every word though.

>>535564937
live service slop is played by the worst people on the planet

>>535564937
DRG doesn't have much mechanical or buildcrafting depth. VT1-2 are also much simpler on the buildcrafting side, and while the mechanics are definitely deeper than DRG, havoc is orders of magnitude more difficult.
Darktide is harder than the average idiot can manage even on just damnation, retards quickly succumb to Dunning Kruger, most shitters are hardcore coping about how bad they are at the game, and even the idea of high havoc conversation deeply upsets some that know in their heart of hearts that they will never ever even reach Fading Light II. Yet because they have been convinced by the internet that they must have opinions on everything, obviously retarded unqualified opinions get spouted, then called out, and shitflung over for ego reasons.
Also Darktide is commonly viewed as a gritty shooter (even if it's actually a horde slasher with guns), which draws a different crowd than nerdy fantasy or wholesome chungus casual dwarves.
Also Darktide is 40k which is known to be insufferably autistic.

>>535557612
buff exe stance to auto have ogryn's, have optional node for shooter highlight and to count as blocking when aiming downsights

Nerf shout by having the cooldown penalty from res shout be moved to gold toughness shout

Nerf tactical awareness to %cdr over time like bruiser

>>535567960
sounds like plethora of excuses for poor social skills

>>535535051
What is the relevance of this image

>>535546570
Nobody except people with a brain. Sorry that’s a foreign concept to you Mehmet

>>535562539
>>535562634
>>535562634
>>535562881
>>535562949
Autism.

>>535549132
>DAoT mankind wasn't a psychic species
They were, it was just something that was largely ignored or treated an oddity as them. DAoT wasn’t a unified empire or entity like the Imperium was, it’s not out of the question that some colonies of them took a particular interest in their emergent psychic abilities and started making tech tailored to controlling and harnessing it, the Emperor could have been directly involved with it himself given what we apparently know about his involvement with STCs.

>>535564937
someone summarize that image not reading all of that

>People unable to cope the emperor was a lying turkoid all along
lol lmao even
>>535549132
Yeah, the "golden throne" have Eldar components, this is one of the reasons of why Roboute is ok with them after some help

>>535576353
usa loves black men and puke flavor

>>535576353
American chocolate used to be made with spoiled milk giving it a distinct "puke" flavor note, they're now adding a chemical to emulate this effect on purpose because they liked it.

>>535557418
Good question. Something about all the screaming and buff shirtless men that really attracts them.

>>535575658
go easy on him these concepts are a bit much for him to handle
>>535564937
this is why you stay away from this slop

Guys. It's not cool to be racist. The black ones aren't really all that bad. Markus isn't being reasonable.

>>535510337
‘Fools have asked 'Why did the Dark Age of Technology end in the fall of humanity?', and other fools answer back 'Folly' or 'Pride' or 'The Worship of Progress', as if these things alone had any meaning. The answer, as the wise know, is simple. It is because finally humanity had the arts at their disposal to make their dreams reality, and the dreams of humanity have ever been the darkest things in all creation...‘ -Synecius Thorn

>>535532859
>Dawn of the Dead
One of my favourite dark triad movies. I wish someone made a zombie game based on that movie.

>>535581409
>dark triad
Get out and go back sissycuck

I'm noticing the sapper shovel does like no damage to armored targets like bulwarks and curshers. Also I can't seem to stagger some ragers. Also the damage really sucks.
How do I sapper shovel?

Also I notice it's next to impossible to get headshots with the bolter weapons, what is up with that?

>>535582289
Use the alt attack/folding shovel, it's good at killing those guys

>>535514738
eh, most vermintide weapons are also real life weapons so i think they're fine
and the hammers are pretty good

>>535582275
jesus christ, is there a single general on this dogshit board that fucking loser doesn’t post in??? queer unironically lives here 24/7

>>535562539
I hate other europeans because they are retarded and their countries are uncivilized.

>>535582289
Put Uncanny Strike on the shovel so you can bonk down armour. Won't be fast, but won't be unreasonable. Decimator helps group clear speed.
Optionally, switch to a folding shovel, then use folded light attack to retain mobility against elites (folded heavy if you have a large enough opening to stick and pick)
The bleed talent helps the shovel against Unyielding and general clear times, but its a big investment if your grabbing the ammo aura
>Also I notice it's next to impossible to get headshots with the bolter weapons, what is up with that?
That one is just learning to aim and accommodate its after shot jank.

>create a team
>don't recall accepting any of the players present
Is this Fatshark fucking up or am I going schizo

>>535585245
anyone in your party can accept invites

I thought you could kick people from your games as host in Vermintide 2. Did they change it or did i hallucinate the whole thing?

Speaking of schizo moments. yesterday, hosted my own H40 room and got the party filled.
Ask if everyone is ready, and before I could pull my own mission up, someone posts their havoc 40.
Someone declines, so a different person posts their fucking mission before I could post mine again, and again. And then everyone left the strike group.
I was so confused as to what just happened that I didn't even bother trying to reform it. I just went to bed.

>>535583248
I just feel bad for /tesg/ anons, his autism is still the most intense there by far.

>>535588729
This is the second time I've seen this girl posted who is she

>>535588267
nah, that was DeeArGee

Is there a good hordeclear gun for zealot that unlike the flamer doesnt need space?
Or should zealot have a hordeclear sword and elitekill gun?

>>535593632
Generally, melee plus bolter to magdump the big stuff, is the go to zealot mode.
If you want a gun to clear hordes for some reason, shotguns. zarona shotgun or double barrel, loaded with man-stopper/scattershot Accatran shotgun if you want to burn things but also have a direct shot, though not as quick at horde clearing as the previous two.

i still want reds

>>535501901
answer me motherfucker, I know there are people here who play other things besides tide

>>535597961
everyone does, just give me a carrot I beg

>rank 27
>aka not LEVEL 40 HAVOC EXEMPLAR

>REQUEST DECLINED
>REQUEST DECLINED
>REQUEST DECLINED
>okay here's one I can finally be let into-
>REQUEST DECLINED
holy lel

>>535600435
thats what happens when ded gaem

*enters your auric*

>>535600435
Ill host a 40 for you buddy

>>535148763
the chaos wastes should've taken us to tamriel
some kind of elder scrolls crossover thing would be cool, though i doubt gw would ever allow anything like that

>>535597961
Ok but only get them/resources for them by grimoire/scirpture+matyrskull farming

>>535602204
why on god's green earth would you want another setting when we barely touched any of Warhammer's other parts of the world?
we got a small glimpse at Lustria and that's it

>>535602524
something small like a frame would be fine

>>535602524
warhammer is gay

>>535604630
40gay
it's in the name

these games suck without friends

these games suck with friends

sucking my friends while playing warhammer 40k darktide <3

>>535602204
and that’s a good thing warhammer is cooler
>>535605721
this is fantasy you dummy

>>535606995
can I be one of them? PLEASE

>>535607075
dm me

>>535607075
sent ;)

>>535600435
>[All Welcome]

I spent 50 hours farming achievements so I could get a funny hat

>>535607984
>that everyone already has and thus pointless wearing

>>535610193
I told you to keep your childhood traumas to yourself

>>535610193
I wear my penance gear because I think it looks cool.

Martyrdom?
More like Martyr-dumb!

How to carry havoc 40 on each class?
So far what I’ve gleamed is:
Tankgryn, stagger everything and bleed big bitches, nuke for oh shit moments.
Healslut zealot, take the CDR on crit node and spam your piss relic and flamer for hordes/monster
Psyker with duelingsword for armor and flamestaff for literally everything else. Brainburst for specials and bubble to stop gunners from wiping the team.
Vet is just shout spam, pick specials/elites with plasma and nade hordes.
(dont have arb cuz im based and poor)
What’s the KEY to being a HAVOC GOD?

As Vet keeping up with Arbitrator and Ogryn damage while almost never meleeing shit is no joke. Helbore is good. This was a very gunner and disabler heavy seed. Too bad this scoreboard is trash and doesn't give as many details as Power DI, but that one crashes my game.

>>535621486
You can't carry as Zealot, Chorus is only as good as your teammates are, and unlike Ogryn and Arbites you have 0 ways to consistently and rapidly hold ground and open space for extended periods, nor effective methods to allow you to nuke specialists. You DO have great monster-killing potential, but that requires teamwork as it requires sacrifices on your end.
Veteran carries by eliminating the threats that would kill your teammates before they do, great boss killing as long as your teammates have the boss' attention, grenade spam to open space and a triple-buffed chorus-lite that gives everyone golden toughness for much more uptime. All your teammates need to do is hold the horde for you and keep you safe.
Psyker's carry potential is very little. Smite is probably your best bet, but even then there's all the drawbacks of being stuck still. Inferno staff could be used to cull the hordes and assist with armor, helping you make space much easier, but you sacrifice the ability to rapidly eliminate specialists and elites as you would with a gun. And of course, you are squishy. So still you are relying on your team to help you with packs of armor, ragers, bosses and gunners.
Ogryn and Arbitrator are much of the same. They are gigatanky, can make space, kill bosses quickly, but don't tend to have much range. Ogryn has issues with gunners and kiting, Arbitrator doesn't. Ogryn kills bosses much faster and simpler than Arbitrator, and of course he has taunt to protect the lil 'uns. Ogryn will have to rely on others to kill the mountains of gunners and fleeing specialists unless he sacrifices the Rumbler.
Arbitrator has no real weakness other than not being as good at unique jobs as other classes are, so he is very much an enabler.

>>535622458
I figured the helbore could be good if the hands of certain havoc players if they just did it well enough

I only like Recon las rifle on veteran
>plasma
spending more time touching the proverbial hot stove than firing the damn thing
>bolter
at the mercy of ammo distribution
>hellbore
the name offers a clue
>autoguns
one okay variant that still underperforms
>shotgun
need bigger ammo pool in general
>revolver
doesn't feel like vet weapon, toss it to zealot
>the humble lasgun
one day it will rise again
>shredder pistol
not a ganghiver
>las pistol
heh, cute

>>535628528
Using the plasma wrong

>>535629186
Hyperbole

>>535629684
Nothing hyper about it
It's just regular bole

>>535628528
I don't like the low TTK and lack of cleave on the Recon

>>535628528
>>bolter
>at the mercy of ammo distribution
It's a sniper rifle, dipshit. Magdumping is only for large groups of shotgunners about to tear you a new asshole, stop shooting it into crushers.

>>535631023
I will mag dump crushers as please roastie, next time be faster with them

>>535631023
If you want to use it for sniping then there's at least 4 other weapons that are better at this.

>>535631379
You're fine with not being able to do much carapace damage with the recon, why can't you do the same with the bolter? Huh? Why can't you do that? What, are you retarded or something?

Is Infantry Lasgun even viable for veteran?

>>535636915
You can be melee focused and pull it out to snipe enemies here and there. It's not useless, it has just been powercrept

>>535636915
Anything can work below havoc it's just objectively worse than other options

>>535637084
So no executioner stance or marksman's focus on infantry lasgun?

>>535637321
You might struggle to lay down enough fire to keep the marksman's stacks going and even with executioner's stance it will have pretty low dps once you reach hi intensity aurics. It's not impossible to use it, it's just weak

>>535636915
you can build the mk IX to reliably one-shot specials/gunners, which makes it a solid headclicker but it's a tight build. Relying on Executioner Stance to reach the breakpoints can loosen it up a bit, but then you're taking Executioner Stance.

>>535636552
If you don't want to shoot Carapace, then why not bring the Recon instead of the Bolter? Retard completely missing the point.

>>535637084
>powercrept
No, nerftranny, the infantry lasgun has always been dogshit and no, a plasma gun should not be on the same low strength level as a lasgun

Why does the autogun have less recoil than the infantry lasgun? lmao

Why is arbitrator allowed to have a ranged ability that actually significantly increases his damage and survivability for the duration and have passive wallhacks from a keystone but the veteran isn't?

>>535639313
You had to pay an extra 12 dollars for Arbites is why. Fatshark gives preferential treatment to DLC classes since VT2.

>>535638756
Retard logic
>>535639030
Newfag

concession accepted

Imagine Vermintide 3 releases later this year and all support to Darktide is instantly dropped

>>535639030
newcuties... you have to stop acting retarded...

>>535638756
>bolter
>BLAM dead gunner
>BLAM dead sniper
>BLAM another dead gunner
>BLAM dead trapper
>BLAM BLAM dead reaper
>recon las
>pewpewpewpewpew
>uhhh
>pewpewpewpew
>looks at watch
>pewpewpew
>finally those two gunners died
Recon las is extremely good for the ammo efficiency, but I'd rather just one-tap my problems.
>but muh crushers
Stop retardedly mag dumping them you fucking moron. It only takes 3 headshots with a generic build, and probably just 2 with the left keystone, but I don't remember the breakpoints all that well. And even then you shouldn't be wasting your ammo on shooting them.

>>535640268
All support for darktide will be long over before vermintide 3 because we will have darktide 2 by then

>>535640268
Kerillian bikini outfit DLC, they price its at $999.99 on purpose. Sienna bikini outfit is free....

>>535640835
Rat trannies will pay big bucks for versus cosmetics

>>535640451
Oh really? Then why don't you use the Revolver, Plasma Gun, Laspistol, Helbore, Infantry Lasgun, Combat Shotgun, or even the Bolt Pistol, all of which can one or two-tap all those targets, while most of them possess more ammo, faster reloads and faster swap speeds than the Bolter? Yes the Bolter can and should snipe specialists and elites, but it pays a tax in many aspects solely for the ability to destroy carapace and monstrosities, of which you seem to be ignoring

>>535640268
I wouldn't even be mad

>>535641007
This has already been explained to you
The bolter snipes everything AND it can clear monsters and elite hordes when needed. Armored hordes are so common that it hardly count as an emergency whem they show up

>>535641007
>revolver
has half the ammo of the boltgun
>plasma gun
has hideous amounts of downtime when there's more than 8 enemies that need killing and they don't happen to stand in a perfect line
>laspistol
doesn't hit one-shot thresholds on enough relevant targets
>helbore
doesn't loose a bullet when I press the button and is thus extremely awkward to use
>infantry lasgun
takes sustained fire to the head, to kill anything, tracking heads while dodging and sliding around under fire is much harder than flicking a single shot
>combat shotgun
I'm not loading individual slugs just to get range, fuck you
>bolt pistol
less ammo, mostly, but bolt pistol is fucking excellent yeah. Extra good on vet for the blast radius blessing. It still has approximately half the magazine size and can't deal with monsters.
>but it pays a tax in many aspects solely for the ability to destroy carapace
Yes, if you're bad and retarded. Even with good aim, crosshair bloom will throw most your shots anywhere but their heads. You achieve more DPS by aiming individual shots for their heads, because you spend less time reloading. It's only okay as a last resort when you're caught with your pants down and with shout on cd.
>and monstrosities
This is the thing that actually matters, and what you should actively be magdumping for.

>>535640268
Darktide support?

>>535640268
Finally an interesting coop game. I've got none right now. KF2, dead. Vermintide 2, dead. Etc.
>muh Darktide
Don't want to play it.
>muh Abyssus
Looked boring.

>>535641858
>muh Darktide
>Don't want to play it
Wrong general, buddy

>>535640960
I hope versus does not come back. Feels like them just throwing stuff at the wall. Good game but man do they suck at managing development. Why can't they hire me to project management them?
>(in Swedish) lets add versus mode
*crack whip* mayfly get back to making those weapons feel good
>(in Swedish) lets add a black character
*crack whip* lumberfoot you're fired
>(in Swedish) lets add big boobs to Kerillian
*shoulder pat* *thumbs up*

>>535642334
I like to imagine myself sitting in a corner and designing weapons and classes for darktide with no input from incompetent swedes cramping my style. Just me churning out content by my self

>>535642050
How are either of those games dead? KF2 especially, it's more alive than KF3.

>>535641721
am I really just speaking to an auric chud? forget it.

>>535642821
Everything he said is even more true in havocs

>>535642821
Yes anon, you made the most auric of implications by suggesting the revolver. Half the list you provided is pointless to use in havoc. Stop pretending that you play it, it's obvious you don't.

>>535642795
>KF2
When I last played it years ago, iirc there were few lobbies. I saw KF3 and it doesn't interest me.

>>535643001
you just whipped that nigga's ass

>>535643001
>pointless to use in havoc
If you're hardstuck this would make sense as a point of view. Unlike you I am Havoc 40 and not only do I not have to worry about losing rank, I can bring fun builds and still win. You might as well stop using the Bolter and just bring Plasma Gun anyway if you want to tryhard so much. But, if you're struggling to make the Revolver work, be aware that it is a personal issue.

>>535643257
dabbed his tip, even

>>535643645
>trying to act superior and suggesting the plasma gun in the same breath
Anon... lmao
Come on man, you're making it too obvious

>>535643841
good timing actually

>>535643645
You are having a very hard time sticking to the argument. It's obvious that you are deflecting because you are intellectually outmatched

>>535600435
not accepting someone with that name

>>535644162
I recognized that you are a fucking retarded poser and am going to bed, goodnight retard.

>>535644306
You aren't me but this is also what I think

>>535643841
>>535644162
You just tied that nigga to a tree and cracked a bullwhip on he ass till he screaming "please, massa. no more! i ain't gonna look at no wyte women no more, massa AAAIEEE"

Looks some nerves were struck.

*steps on a bug*
Bug: looks like i struck... a... nerve - ACK!

Looks like I broke a buck.

Why is it that I can land headshots easy in psykanium but in auric missions I never get headshot kills?

>>535645473
Cuz they ain't standing still

>>535645473
you are bad at the game

>>535645619
Yes but I'm clearly aiming at their head but it doesn't register. It's really pissing me off.

>>535645669
Subtle things can affect that, such as the enemy's weapon or arm being in the way during attack animations

amdbros why do we get fucked in every game we play

>>535646269
what year you from dawg

mad?

>>535646467
the year where fatshark doesn't like amdbros

>>535647841
workth on my mathine

>>535647924
no it doesn't

>>535647613
Now show me your poxbreaker progress

>>535648015
done like a year ago desu

>>535648151
Then why don't you show me?

>>535648398
you never show me anything

>>535643001
>>535643257
>>535643770
>>535644410
>>535644765
>>535644993
>>535645002
good posts

And your barrel kills?

>>535648989
I'll show you something
*pulls down my pants*

>>535649636
*pulls them back up*

For Cacadia

>>535649902
*slide whistle sound*
*my shirt pulls up above my nipples as you pull up my pants*

>>535650517
every time i see that UI i get irrationally angry

>>535650517
*doesn't kill anything*
So this is the power of the shovel...

>>535650778
having every piece of information be on the corners of the screen in a game where every point matters is an outdated concept. Doom had it perfected in 1993 and modders perfected it further by simply removing the background of the HUD

>>535650732
I miss these things :(

>>535650517
>bro why do people use the bolter?
>>535651081
You can just buy things. In this year alone i have bought 2 trench shovels, a shield and several mid-tech knives

>>535651346
he meant your nipples

>>535651061
Alright but having it in the middle of the screen on both axes is absolutely hideous and there is no reason anybody should ever need to have things like their ammo count dodge count front-and-center like that that unless they're missing the part of their brain that handles object permanence. Doom is fine because everything is on the bottom of the screen instead of snuggling with the center cursor.

>>535651421
You don't have to use it if you don't like it

Does anyone play The Division 2? Have we got a clan here on /vg/ ?

>>535651407
Different guy, but my nipples aren't for sale

>>535651590
We had a couple, but that was when the game came out in 2019. Doubtful they're still active, I think the clan system in that was pretty reliant on the leader not going AWOL.
It's really weird how Ubisoft keeps trying to force games that really don't have the legs for the live service platform into being live service games, you end up with all these projects that have like sub 2k players kept on life support with some minor update every 6 months.

>look up the charts
>killing floor 3 already moving down to being more dead than the majority of killing floor 2's life time chart
kek

>>535651525
You don't get to use it if i don't like it

>>535652643
Killing Floor 3 has less than 1 thousand more average players than Back 4 Blood.

>>535652523
Do you think you still remember any of their names by any chance? I got nothing in the archives popping up.

>>535652523
>sub 2k players
>life support
A lot of coop games under a certain amount of players just feel like a dead game. Like Killing Floor 2, so little lobbies to be found last I remember from a few years back. I find it odd how so many of these popular game's have like 50k+ players on that steam chart thing and then it nose dives to just a few thousand within just a few months of release. Do all these people really pay full price and only play like an hour and never again? What's the point of that?

>>535653295
Grim. Grave. Dire. So on and so forth.

>>535650517
>For Cacadia
For Day of the Poop?

>>535653305
The clan names? I think one was Sunflower or something for some reason, and I know the other one was Div Generals.
>>535653403
Well for most of these games people beat them/see most of what there is to see within a few months, then move onto a new game. Most people do that in general. The players aren't signing up for some several year MMO commitment, and the pace of updates is usually way too slow to keep up with the low attention span of players. The first Division game especially suffered from this, they had years of support and additional raids, but a huge portion of their players rushed to max level and stopped playing well before the first raid was even added to the game.

>>535652523
>you end up with all these projects that have like sub 2k players kept on life support with some minor update every 6 months
sounds like darktide at this point

I can't believe I wasted my day today on darktide trying to make veteran builds. Should've read a book or did a proper hobby instead

>>535655805
Should have done something more intellectually stimulating
Such as playing the arbites or ogryn

>>535656083
>"op" classes that value DPS and aggressiveness and not playing defensively
>also the most fun classes
Funny how that works. Fuck the defensive meta.

i don't understand why people hate killing floor 3. it's seriously awesome and the best horde shooter out there

>>535652643
>>535653295
>>535654576
Genuinely impressive that Tripwire saw how Payday 3 implemented a huge number of atrocious policies that not only tanked it, but actually shot its predecessor in the foot too, and then said
>Let's do that

>>535656890
Killing Floor 3 was the #1 top seller on Steam for multiple days and over 1,000,000 people have bought the game.

>>535510337
>>535580228
>‘It’s no secret that we used to know how to do things that we can’t do anymore, great feats of technology, and constructions, miracles of physics. We’ve forgotten how to do things that our ancestors five thousand years ago considered rudimentary. Five thousand years is nothing. It was a golden age, and look at us now, picking through the ashes to put it back together. Everyone knows that the ‘Age of Strife‘ was a dark age during which mankind lost countless treasures. But really, do you know what we lost exactly?‘ -Synecius Thorn

>>535657535
>125 kills per person
>everyone played one match and then refunded

>>535657535
And yet it failed to even reach the top 5 Killing Floor 2 player peaks despite launching as a much more well-known name. It's fucked, anon; even if it manages to limp along with its Vermintide-sized playerbase for a couple years, it will never live up to what Tripwire had undoubtedly expected of it.
And you know what? Looking at the chart now, I find that I don't believe the "one million sales" claim for a second. A peak of 30k on launch and then never even approaching 30k again? Even if those sales figures were somehow accurate despite that abysmal playercount, I'd bet that >>535658902 is correct.

>>535659343
Killing Floor 2 peaked during free weekends you disgusting underageb&

PSA: Helbore's Hotshot blessing is bugged and really good. It gives Veteran immense amounts of cleave.

>>535660972
forgot to attach image

No perk-locked weapons in Killing Floor 3 was a mistake.
All the classes are just there to give extra damage to the vulcan in different ways. Some way better than others.
And then you have these identity crises going where one perk performs a different perk's role better. Like ninja being a better commando and firebug being a better ninja.
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>535660972
>>535661095
Thanks, slowpoke

>>535661095
>applies to ranged and melee at all times

>>535660972
>>535661095
I tried making a build abusing it, but cleave, especially that much, is not worth it.
You're taking helbore, an elite hunting weapon, and adding cleave to your melee, likely a horde clearing weapon. I can't think of any weapon that needs that much cleave to clear hordes and isn't gimped by its swing pattern.

>>535661095
bromentum bayonet bros are we back

>>535660067
this is extreme cope and you know it lmao
>>535660972
>>535661095
shush, if the sw*des catch wind of this they might actually consider updating the game (they won't)

>>535663554
Damn, you really are ubderageb&

>>535657535
what good is that besides for making money? what about people who want to play it long term?

>>535658902
kek!

>>535660067
>>535664131
>this level of gaslighting and cope
lol, get back to the wagecage tripwire employee
>inb4 indian paid pennies on the dollar to shill for tripwire

>>535664131
>implying this is any sort of excuse for the astonishingly poor showing of KF3
just stop, anon; as far as bait goes, there's no spiritual nourishment to be had here
find more flavorful topics and come back when you've had time to let them build up

>>535664303
>what good is that besides for making money? what about people who want to play it long term?
Maybe that's why the playerbase is falling off a cliff? The group that plays very little leaves quickly as is the usual, except the people who hold these game's in a life support state just didn't buy it or did but refunded it soon after. I could see KF3 go under 1000 concurrent players soon, if this is what's happening and EOS in ~2 years.

>>535628528
laspistol is one of the best guns in the game if you're any good at clicking heads
>swap, reload and movement speed are all fast as fuck
>pinpoint accurate with no recoil to speak of
>15% baseline crit chance, among the highest in the game, synergizes very well with infernus and shock trooper
sure it doesn't one-shot stuff like the revolver, but it also never really runs out of ammo if you're using it as vet

>>535664690
>Touching on Q2, Killing Floor 3, released in July, has seen a mixed reception and has performed slightly below our initial expectations, but it has strongly outperformed the initial release of Killing Floor 2. With upcoming updates and open communication with players, we believe the game has made a solid enough start and can deliver long-term value.

kf3 is doing better than kf2 did at the same time. just like with kf2, the player base will go exponentially as new content is added

Is the arbites dlc still uncrackable

wat

Expectations for whatever is expected to drop tuesday? How likely do you think a delay is?

>>535670623
The only things that gonna drop is a big ol turd from my asshole

i like playing sot and alt firing w my staff

>>535671143
>from my asshole
Well yeah. As opposed to what? Your mouth?

>>535672294
As opposed to someone else's asshole

>Fatshark make the kasrkin standart helmet of astra militarum for darktide finally
>Only psyquer can use it
???

>>535676075
>>535676214
People need an incentive to play that shitty ass retard ass nigger class

>>535676075
Specifically to annoy kasrfag, just like all the Killteam balance

>>535670623
It's just gonna be them fixing the EO for arbites with some miscellaneous cosmetic fixes/tweaks. And obviously they'll probably use it to add new premium shop cosmetics since the shop is going to rotate again this week.

>>535681857
>It's just gonna be them fixing the EO for arbites with some miscellaneous cosmetic fixes/tweaks. And obviously they'll probably use it to add new premium shop cosmetics since the shop is going to rotate again this week.

>>535681857
>It's just gonna be them fixing the EO for arbites
You mean "fixing" it and introducing 3 new bugs that will take them over a week to touch on?

lol

i miss rotten armour, it was like havoc with auricbabs

isdisgud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Kh0HhMqds

>>535684629
>40 minute jewtuber video
no
>gameslantern link
Shovel isn't all that great without the cleave meme blessing on the helbore. 3 toughness curios is a little questionable because it means you just instagib to any corruption, I'd prefer seeing at least 1x health with corruption res.
Not taking shock trooper with helbore seems a little retarded and misses the entire point of the gun. Same for not taking the 30% weak spot.
There is no build here. It just spams grenades. The melee is an uncanny stat stick, the gun is virtually unsupported and could be literally anything else. This is pure click bait.

>>535670623
>Expectations
none

>>535663554
>this is extreme cope and you know it lmao
His KF3 cope doesn't make your KF2 cope any less copey.

>>535656818
MY FUCKING EYES
spoiler shit that's gonna burn my retinas like that

>>535656818
[Speaking Latino]

>>535656818
Darktide if it was good

Axe chuds wwa?

Just asked the police in my faggy ass country if i can import a tomahawk axe. Wish me luck

>>535592861
Delilah (aka "Bedman?") from Guilty Gear Strive

>>535651061
>Every point matters
Iunno, it always felt almost entirely irrelevant to me because I just play by feel. If I get a shorter dodge then I just block and push for a few moments before dodging again, I've never once died because I didn't visibly have access to this information in the past several hundred hours or so. It just seems like a visual form of stimming out to me.
>>535592861
Chibi version of Kromer from Limbus company.

>>535689331
Ignore this post I read that entire thing wrong and am possibly retarded.

>>535688229
They probably put you on a list now. Nice going.

>>535688795
>>535689331
Yeeeaaaaahhhh that was it. Freaky shit. Thanks

>>535687331
>>535688019
>>535688117
lol

Rats, rats, we're the rats
We prey at night, we stalk at night, we're the rats
>King Rat
I'm the giant rat that makes all of the rules
>All Rats
Let's see what kind of trouble we can get ourselves into

This is the FBC: Firebreak general

still want reds

hello today i will call someone an auric player in the hopes that they call me one back for 4 hours straight

>straight
no, u big gay

>>535683615
Well obviously, but that goes without saying.

>>535701918
They'll be added at some point, it's probably what the whole moebian steel shit is building up towards, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.

>>535702358
me at the top left after denying fifty havoc 39 join requests

>>535516730
Slayer bardin ported from vermintide, he fell into a rift and appeared on the mourningstar

Is it just me or are Sunday-Thursday evening Eurofag hours some kind of retard twister? Trying to unlock Damnation with my psyker was a fucking chore because of endless parade of shitters even at Heresy, then on Friday and Saturday suddenly all the competent players crawled out of their holes. I mean I used to think Ogryn players were either better than most or the class is just idiot proof enough but I've changed my mind on that after trying to keep a bunch of gunluggers alive as they actively run away from every bubble shield I put down. And don't get me started on these zealots with cyrillic names who run into each and every demonhost and cannot tank them for more than five seconds. Even got a fucking "Hello I'm a girl ;)" in the mix, didn't think that even existed in the current geological epoch.

The most obvious choice for next class is a Skitarii. I hope they get a sentry gun.

Radical!

the most obvious choice is chudshark don't do anything and fumble the ball again

why aren't you having a blast RIGHT NOW?

My patch prediction: nothing

>>535709982
>4x snoy true combo
Thanks I'll pass

>>535709982
waiting for Ratclick event, meanwhile finishing Robocock

>>535710050
>fixed execution order
>bugged forceful
>nerfed something and called it a "bugfix"

>>535709317
tech priest or bust. I want those tentacles

>>535710050
>>535710186
It's probably just fixing EO and adding in new cosmetics for thursday.
There's a possibility we'll get rest of the weapon buffs/nerfs, but I doubt that happens.

>>535710150
That’s the best combo
>>535709671
Looks cool

>>535714217
Aren't they going to announce every balance change weeks in advance from now on?

>>535581409
Can't believe this movie is 17 years old. Still feels fresh as ever.
https://youtu.be/CVH8J8iOUOw?t=7

Eurobros, have any of you ever tried playing Havoc on the American servers? Are the players there any better than in Europe?
I have reached over 300h in Havoc recently and have finally had enough of these retarded pieces of shit polluting the game mode expecting to get carried to 40

>>535724232
They did say that iirc.
But at the same time, this is fatshark, I will believe them when I actually see it happening.

>>535726283
The players on NA servers build like >>535558265
Changing servers isn't going to help. Other players change, you are the only constant. If you can't climb, it's your fault for not hosting, identifying retarded builds with inspect mods, and rejecting them. Else it's your fault for playing bad builds with bad execution. You don't climb havoc by being overconfident and blaming others.

So what is this Feast of Grimnir about

>get lil bro to finally pick up DT
>his coop experience is mostly with L4D2 so he's having a culture shock getting into the melee game
>can't clear shit because Sedition and Uprising are either dead on most hours or full of shitters that wipe constantly
>have to either tell him to deal with the frustration or play trash difficulties for hours to carry him through it
This game needs those fucking VT bots yesterday, onboarding is such garbage now.

>>535730206
...you need help to clear uprising while helping your brother? lock in lil bro

>>535655805
The only fun way to play Vet is stealth but that will immediately cause sweats to shit themselves with rage because you're not a shout plasma dueling sword metanigger. I mean for Havoc sure you need to go with the meta but who gives a fuck in regular Damnation? The meta Vet is so boring and brainless, it burned me out of the game for months and I haven't played Vet since and never intend to unless they completely overhaul him.

>>535730850
Meant that he can't clear shit if he's playing solo/with pubbies. I don't want him to quit and refund because of frustration, I just wish newbies like him would have the option of better bots and it's baffling Fartshart hasn't done anything about them when they're really good in VT.

>>535730206
But bots play better than the average player and reasonably hold their own up to whatever the difficulty below damnation is.
>>535730851
>plasma meta
Cute bait

>>535731039
I snee. The solution you have control of still is to help your brother until he's good enough.

>>535731083
I find bots are really bad at dealing with shit like trappers and sometimes just won't help you up if you get pounced. At least some elementary customization for them would be nice, like you do in VT. Admittedly the Ironbreaker Bardin is so ridiculous that it's a detriment most of the time to not pick him over a human player, maybe Fartshart thought it was such a problem that they went the opposite way with DT.
>>535732110
Yeah, I haven't tried it yet but does the game allow him to join higher difficulty matches when he's in a strike team that I'm hosting? Or does the "grind this difficulty until you can access the next one" limitation apply?

>>535729557
we will find out soon
i expect it will have something to do with killing special boss enemies

>>535732361
Bots are mostly bad at dealing with disablers (on allies) because they're coded to stupidly push and flail their way through hordes, no matter how dense, and run out of stamina to ragers or eat overheads in the process.
The key point here is that they will immediately drop whatever they were doing and at least make an effort to rush to your aid. This makes them infinitely better teammates than the average retard who guzzles plasteel in every possible corner and makes an active effort to ignore the objective, move forward, or help disabled allies. Even in auric.
>maybe Fartshart thought it was such a problem that they went the opposite way with DT.
It would honestly be kind of fucked if bot AI were remotely competent and customizable. 3 dog arbitrators optimized for bot retardation would absolutely shit on the average retard, performance wise. The dog itself is almost a better teammate than some Auric Storm Survivor.

bots can also trigger daemonhosts
why?
because why fuck you

>>535656818
>never played kf2
It just looks like any other game in the genre. Im not paying for that lol especially not with all that DLC

>>535730206
>that pic
Kek

>>535730206
You should just have him refund. Its a waste of his money and it seems he ishaveeven having fun.

>>535730206
You should just have him refund. Its a waste of his money and it seems he isnt even having fun.

>>535735436
bro outed himself as a... PHONE POSTER

>>535730206
Everyday I am more vindicated.
This summer update was dogshit.

Does anyone have experience with Hamachi? I want to play Vintage Story with a buddy but port forwarding seems like a pain in the ass and UPnP seems like it could introduce vulnerabilities (?). Would Hamachi work and be stable enough for 2 people?

>>535739087
I been using hamachi to play minecraft since 2012. it's fine

>>535732361
Anon, if he can't clear sedition or uprising (well, just uprising now that sedition is no longer in the game) with bots, then I can doubt he will have a better time on higher difficulties.

>>535739087
There are like two decades' worth of tutorials for Hamachi; I'm sure you can find a solution for any issue you might have with it. It's certainly stable enough to handle two people, as I used to use it for four-player smash bros emulation.

>Get skull on Auric misson board on damnation or higher
Wut??
Hpw do you even get an auric mission on damnation? The aurics would be on auric.

>>535739087
I used it to play coop subnautica

>>535739848
It used to be called auric damnation and auric heresy and there used to be a different tab for aurics in the mission board

>>535739848
they didnt do shit with the penance descriptions, even penances for classes still refer to the old names of some things like brain burst instead of rupture or chastise the wicked instead of fury of the faithful
chances are it just means auric outright

>>535739156
>>535739438
>>535740157
awesome, I'll propose that option to him then. Thanks!

>>535739087
there was another program called tunngle or something that fulfilled same purpose, all parties joined same room and played
ae usually chose some dead and obscure game to avoid randos

>>535735720
Nothing wrong with that. PhoneGODS run this shit.

>>535729557
We get to take turns kissing Bardin’s puckered asshole.
>>535734984
Truth.

latest new's ?

>>535702358
I wonder if they got arrested

>>535730206
The mom is hot. Would.

>>535746093
First look at the new weapon that will be added

>>535730850
>lock in lil bro
he's the big bro

Is it just me, or are all new Ratclick missions after Tower of Treachery really boring?
They recycled VT1 missions again and every mission after Karak Azgaraz felt really fucking boring and uninspired
After the Chaos Wastes, the narrative hit rock bottom as well

>>535749612
Vermintide is just a shitty game in general

>>535749612
they are way too long
dwarven maps have multiple barrel finales (lighthouse map also have those) and arena segments
elven maps introduce rune puzzles that were impossible with randoms for the first few weeks
>say the rune
>nobody touches the books
>ping it, people ignore it
>start doing shit myself
>teammates run off and die alone all over the map
>have to interrupt my book session to revive them
>"lol this map is so random it just completed itself"
>'yeah wtf'
managed to resist the urge to call them grade A morons, didn't had the tome to explain them how it worked

>>535750749
>vermintards are just as retarded as darktards
Why are tidelets so fucking stupid?

>>535749612
Treachery missions are great, but too long. They should cut them and make them into three, then they would be great. They have needless difficulty spikes too so combined with their length they are a chore to play
Lovercraft mission from patch with Chaos Warrior with shield was cool and looked great and I didn't mind in it in particular barrelmancy even. But 3 Dwarf maps were inferior to their VT1 counterparts and as well needlessly long and with random difficulty spikes
First Elf mission was fantastic starting in that forest, then going through that desolate, drained lake and entering elven ruins. Base game quality mission imo. But they fucked up with next ones. 2nd one is just more of generic Skaven scaffoldings and slums which we already had a lot of and this was supposed to be Elf focused minicampaign ffs. Rising water level gimmick doesn't save it. And then half of 3rd mission are again Skaven shitholes. Only second half of this 3rd mission is nice, but even then this Elven temple was already overrun with rats for so long it's completely ruined. I wanted something more like Ayleid ruin with Skaven barely breaching it not long ago. And we should be fully inside this Elven temple in 2nd mission already

i just like helping people

Is there a solo play mod for darktide? I want to crack out some low difficulty maps with dealing with pubs for a few penances.

>>535752137
no, your best hope is low difficulty during ungodly hours when people sleep

>>535752137
There are two mods like that
Solo Play, but it prevents progression as it switches you to a local iteration like the Psykanium
Many More Try, lets you access maps that have fallen off the mission board, letting you start them up with minimal risk of others joining. I've used it to grind penances in peace. Accessible by others through quickplay, or others using the mod chasing penances too (Only ever had one guy bounce in looking for martyr skulls my time using it). Missions persist for 4 hours off the board, and quickplay access technically lasts for 3 hours. But generally after 2 hours its not slotting anyone in your games unless its dead hours, quickplay prioritizes fresh games.

>>535752519
>>535753010
Appreciate it. Thanks anons

>nooo this map is too long, I need my quick 10 minute dopamine hit, nooooooo
There are plenty of shorter missions for you to play, then. Meanwhile, we Longchads will enjoy our 25-minute kino sessions in peace.

>25
raki or possibly dumi
that's the short length map, newer ones can go over 35-40 minute mark

>>535752137
>>535753238
Unfortunately, if you're hoping to do the "private lobby only" penances like Malleus Monstronum or Just A Flesh Wound, you're shit out of luck because even though the aforementioned mods will get you into a mission by yourself, they don't count as private lobbies. Thanks, Fatshark!

Just get friends so you can play in private

>>535755337
where

>>535755337
>just get friends to play this obscure half-dead game with retarded devs, that has atrocious onboarding and a pretty high skill floor for the kind of shit you need to be able to do to survive in higher difficulties
I'm not even going to ask my friends to play darktide, I already know they'll hate it. Even those that have it don't play it, and that's coming from people that played a pretty good amount of DRG and Helldivers.
Darktide is not approachable.

>>535750749
i only played the 3rd elf map twice, once with bots and once with real players, but i had a similar experience
one of them was newer to the game and it was his first time going through the map but the other two looked like they'd done it already and they did play well, but when we got to the end and we found all of the runes it was like the books turned their brains off
i was going to leave the flipping the books to them and keep the rats off of their backs while they do it because because i didn't see any of the runes myself, but after a little while we were going nowhere and kept going down to infinity globadiers and ratlings, so i went to each of the runes and did all of the books myself and finally the portal closed
idk if one of them was doing it right while the other was messing up or what but the whole thing felt like it took forever and somehow i still got the okri's challenge for closing the portal in under 3 minutes, maybe that's a bug

>>535751537
>First Elf mission was fantastic starting in that forest, then going through that desolate, drained lake and entering elven ruins.
i agree, the first one was definitely my favorite

>>535754736
Just need to do some vent purge, pox gas, etc.

>>535755337
Don't really want to bother them for quick farming. I play with them about once a week though

>>535757376
Reminds me of early on in the Athel Yenlui finale people would just keep holding the button down thinking it would auto-complete Truly those elves are a tricky bunch expecting the people to pay attention.

They should give Vet skills for decreasing threat besides stealth skill and as well as making landed ranged weakspot hits give something.

>>535761228
>landed ranged weakspots do something
Exhilarating Takedown gives you 15% toughness instantly and lets you stack up to 30% tdr for 8 seconds, but it's not really worth it over the amount of toughness you regen from the middle tree.
Covering Fire also exists but it's extremely pathetic.
It is true that it's not enough.

>>535761968
You don't even know how many guns are unable to 1 shot weakspot kill where the enemy flinches and then you are unable to finish them off. Or where the recoil fucks with it where it ends up being a regular kill and not a weakspot kill.
etc

>>535762349
>You don't even know how many guns are unable to 1 shot weakspot kill where the enemy flinches and then you are unable to finish them off.
where the enemy flinches and it becomes a normal kill instead*

>>535762349
Often true for Reapers because they enjoy hiding their heads when suppressed.
Not a problem with the Helbore, Plasma Gun, Recon nor Revolver because they all one-shot gunners, ragers and sometimes Reapers (with a crit or focus stacks). I don't use the others so I can't speak for them. I don't remember having such trouble with the Agri Combat Shotgun on Arbites. What guns are you using?

>>535763134
>What guns are you using?
Been messing with every gun. Autoguns, Infantry Lasguns, Laz Pistols, etc
Just wanted to get marksman's focus + executioner's stance playstyle working for fun.
fuck the shouts etc

How do we fix executioner's stance and veteran stealth?

>>535764770
>How do we fix veteran stealth
By teaching retards how to use it correctly, because it's plenty useful already.
Also nerf shout a fuckload and buff vet's skill tree to compensate

>>535757354
If you don’t have much love/ familiarity for the setting in the first place then yeah it’s appeal is probably pretty neutered for you.

>>535764923
Can you go be retarded somewhere else? Not interested in joke responses

>>535764770
>fix Vet stealth
just make it Ranger Bardin's ultimate
>fix Executioner's Stance
make it so killing highlighted enemies gives you toughness and resistances
most likely would be fine as is with a tree rework that lets you have better sustain, because the main issue with Exestance is that it doesn't give you any sustain by itself, and VOC gives you sustain in excess therefore it's preferable

>>535761228
Or you could learn how to play the game

>>535765149
>implying that stealth being useful is a joke response
I know this general is fucking retarded, but man, why are vets always the biggest droolers of the bunch? How many times were you dropped on that soft skull of yours? You do objectives with it, dipshit. If you don't consider that to be useful, you should go play fucking CoD instead.

>an entire ability
>solely for the purpose of doing objectives
I fucking lost

>>535765450
aight how do you play it

>>535764770
Swap their positions in the tree.
Executioner Stance's weakness is being forced to swap and lack of toughness gain, Weapon Specialist nodes help mitigate this. It would focus the right side on high offense. With the minor bonus of putting smoke grenade and Executioner in the same path.
Left side with Marksman Focus and the like, is more focused on sniping, even two nodes that benefit from avoiding melee, which synergizes quite well with Infiltrate.

So... we gonna get a patch or nah?

Is there a way to disable the slight zoom attached to exec stance?

Skibidi...

>>535764770
>executioner's stance
Have it last longer
>stealth?
Firing your weapon doesn't end stealth and all shots while in stealth are silenced

>>535778654
Badass but the writing on those seals looks AI generated lol
so much mention of love right after demon
also lemon, thin and legal

why didn't any of you tell me that Gunfire Reborn is actually fun

>>535780151
I sent you a message on MSN about it...

>>535778654
This is what thunder trannies are imagining when they use that shitty weapon. Thunder hammers have no real use beyond roleplaying

Nurgle's Blessing (Enemies poop and fart a lot)

>>535783086
If fatshark had any balls then every nurgler would have shitstained pants and would be puking and farting and shitting and sharting

>>535764770
Exec stance should be fused into stealth, since stealth is the better option if you actually want to snipe shit in a pinch, there is no reason to pick exec over stealth ever. Replace it with something akin to the point blank barrage that would boost low mobility high volume of fire kind of play. Smoke grenade should be removed entirely and replaced with something actually useful and not detrimental to the team.

>>535783086
>>535783325
nice fetish

>>535783910
what is wrong with smoke

>>535784185
Ew. Is that a fetish to you?

>>535783910
>exec stance should be fused into stealth
they literally perfected this TWICE with vermintide 2 and threw it away for darktide
the cooldown of infiltrate is longer than VOC and you only get 5 seconds of damage amplification that isn't even much to begin with

>>535784409
Lung cancer

>>535780883
MSN messenger still exists?

>Be Veteran
>constant 5% toughness regen
>infinitely stacking +2% toughness a second for every elite and specialist kill
>golden toughness puts me on self-regenerating 180 toughness constantly
>iron will gives me 50% toughness damage reduction as long as I'm above 100 or 135 toughness
>can literally facetank havoc 40 gunners and one-shot every specialist, one-shot reapers and scab ragers, and two-shot bulwarks, crushers and maulers
>any time I'm in a pinch I spam my nades and VOC and get out unscathed
>last man standing and as long as it's not final toll I can always make space for a nearby save
>team is unbothered by gunners for the entirety of the match
till last week I hadn't played this class in a good while because of Arbitrator's release but holy shit I'd forgotten how stupidly good it is

>>535785503
It has been gone for 11 years

>>535785596
You forgot mention gets one-shot by a single crusher regardless of block and full toughness though

Cum potion grant me vigor.

>>535784491
Yeah, having played both Ranger and Huntsman in VT2 it's weird how the Vet just feels completely off for the role of taking out special enemies. Exec stance on its own provides no protection so popping it in a bad situation only helps in that it highlights those enemies for everyone. I had a situation where 2 mooks were dead and one got downed in the middle of a horde by a sniper. I couldn't raise him because even if I popped the stance to immediately see the sniper I was up to my ears in zombies to take the shot. With stealth I could have both taken out the sniper and raised the guy, and also cleared a bunch of the zombies to boot before being attacked by them again, and with VoC I'd knock the horde down for long enough to do the same. With exec stance the only hope is having a frag grenade handy to create some room. Exec is fun for popping a room full of specials from a good perch but come on man, that rarely happens in this game.

>>535764770
Whole tree is fucked
The only thing argued over (aside from kraks) is the first three points, the last 6 literally do not matter and is left to preference
In green: The "solved" path
In yellow: Decent nodes to choose with extra points
In red: Abysmal dogshit
In orange: Completely impossible to reach without deviating from green
They have to completely restructure it and make massive changes to most of his passive nodes, I don't see any other way

>>535785596
And it's still the worst class
Let that sink in

I'm still curious what the Veteran tree looked like with the weapon type specific talents, instead of keystones, they originally planned

>>535787205
I think that the devs will restructure vets and zealots trees into looking something like what the ogryn and arbites have.

>>535780151
Because no one remembers ‘aika exists

going to replay DoW 1 while fatshit wakes up from coma

>>535785596
>thinking vet is worth bringing to a havoc 40 lobby
stay in auric cause it's clear you don't play havoc

>>535764770
Add a node that makes you count as blocking when ADSing in exe stance. Also you didn't ask but make Camoflauge a default node feature of Marksman's Focus and replace its spot that makes ranged critical strikes grant 1 stack of marksman's focus (alternatively make it so that all ranged crits also count as weakspot hits)

>>535790602
>t. hides behind the cuck shiled like all arbites

>>535791387
im not the one who needs piss toughness to survive auric

>>535654891
Thank you by the way. I found Division General but yeah there's only 2 members at the moment.

>>535792252
Pull up the last few generals and ctrl+f "Sunflower" it's probably dead too but I'm pretty sure there was a second clan.

*farts on loyalists*

Bizzaro darktide be like
>you need plaguebearers in exterminatus difficulty because they bring poo toughness

>>535789524
delet this

Bizzaro vermintide be like
>hi. I play vermintide and i'm not a porn addicted tranny

>>535790602
lmfao
i top damaged with a shovel and double barrel in h40 as a vet the other day
but go on about how vet is useless when you really mean you can only beat h40 with extreme crutches

>>535790786
wow normally any suggestions i see for anything from players are actually dogshit but being considered blocking while ads in exe honestly aint a bad idea, i think something like that should have a slightly higher cost though so its a safety net rather than "i get to ignore melee combat entirely now", but having stamina broken from that wouldnt result in a stun, just taking damage like normal instead (similar to an ogryn during a revive with their inherent uninterruptable buff) just to make it not potentially punishing by stunning you at a bad time when you just wanted to shoot

>>535798095
Agreed, exe needs some form of protection and this would already help while not being OP, currently the way it works assume you can just snipe at the highlighted enemies at your leisure which is not how 95% of the situations in DT work out, it takes one pox zombie to interrupt you long enough to waste the ability.

>>535793428
I doubt shit like plaguebearers will be ever added.
Plaguebearers are daemons, and in 40k just looking at a daemon is enough to make a person go insane no matter how faithful they are.
Also if there are plaguebearers being brought forth, it just means we are already dealing with a daemonic incursion into real space, and shit like Great Unclean Ones and other fucked up Warp phenomena is not far behind.
Which is unironic exterminatus territory for the Imperium.

>>535780151
There were a few of us talking about it a couple years ago, but I (and I assume the others did the same) stopped playing it. Might pick it up again and see what's new though

>>535785596
>>constant 5% toughness regen
Not in the hands of copeg, who constantly tanks pox walker hits, disabling it
>>infinitely stacking +2% toughness a second for every elite and specialist kill
Not in the hands of copeg, who brings meme weapons because he's not some "meta slave" (it's devil's claw + braced autogun)
>>golden toughness puts me on self-regenerating 180 toughness constantly
Not in the hands of copeg, who only presses the button when it's already too late
>>iron will gives me 50% toughness damage reduction as long as I'm above 100 or 135 toughness
Not in the hands of copeg, who doesn't pay attention to his toughness, in spite of using some faggy center screen HUD
>>can literally facetank havoc 40 gunners and one-shot every specialist, one-shot reapers and scab ragers, and two-shot bulwarks, crushers and maulers
Not in the hands of copeg, who doesn't invest in gunner resist, and is already dying to generic shooters anyway
>>any time I'm in a pinch I spam my nades and VOC and get out unscathed
Not in the hands of copeg, who thinks kraks are non-viable dogshit, but at the same time doesn't know to bring uncanny strike with frags
>>last man standing and as long as it's not final toll I can always make space for a nearby save
Not in the hands of copeg lmao do I even need to explain this
>>team is unbothered by gunners for the entirety of the match
Not in the hands of copeg because the concept of shooting while sliding is foreign to him, as is the concept of shooting gunners when there's 3 poxwalkers to melee

>>535800641
>Not in the hands of copeg, who constantly tanks pox walker hits, disabling it
Is that how it works? I've barely touched my Vet since that skill's been redone, and I definitely haven't tested it. It doesn't read like being hit is required though. The way it's written makes it seem like an enemy just has to swing at you. It's much better than I thought it was if you're right. Wew.
They fucking gave this shit to Vet, but Enemy Within, Enemy Without is still at a limpdick 2.5%. FUCKING FATSHIT

>>535800810
It stays up as long as a hit never makes contact, blocking will cancel it but dodging won't

>>535800810
I honestly don't even know exactly how it works, just that fatshark is retarded and ESL so they can't write descriptions that make sense, and most of the changes they make are never updated in descriptions (see: all of the penances) so who knows without testing it?
Getting hit definitely disables it. I don't think hearing the melee whoosh does, but I could be wrong.

This is irrelevant to the quoted point, because useless retard vets tanking poxwalkers remains true.

>every third havoc mission
>2/4 instantly split off from the party, subsequently split off from each other, die immediately and leave

>>535800960
Very fucking nice. Thanks

>>535800964
>fatshark is retarded and ESL
Same as it ever was. You'd think they'd get someone fluent in English to cross-check descriptions with actual effects.
>This is irrelevant to the quoted point
Ironically pointless thing to say since I wasn't commenting on the point anon was making but instead asking for clarification.

>>535801148
>be retarded fuckface
>don't have true survivor
>get invited into havoc party anyway
>don't communicate because of nonverbal autism and/or debilitating ESL
>someone goes down
>can't get true survivor now
>leave

>be hardstuckie
>hardstuck because bad
>get disconnected from the party because bad
>go down because bad
>instantly lose any and all morale because experience (playing with retards) taught me that going down is a guaranteed death, and a single death means wiping within a minute
>leave

>>535801179
>Same as it ever was. You'd think they'd get someone fluent in English to cross-check descriptions with actual effects.
that'd mean they have to dedicate a localizer to do that, but those guys are already being locked to whatever the next update is and never have approval to change anything else, not to mention deadlines of 2 separate groups, localizers and the talent people, probably fucking them raw

death to fatshark management, let the devs who make the game be allowed to make the game

Swedish game btw

>>535802360
Retarded slavgroid. Do you ever shut the fuck up?

>>535801148
Happens everywhere, I just play regular Damnation and get niggers with fancy Havoc titles who run off, get fucked and ragequit before anyone can get to them. Leaving us with a fucking bot.

Hotfix when?

>>535802858
The last minute of the last hour right before they leave the offices. The server will still be patching as they lock the doors, so we get to have the privilege of playing another broken "hotfix" that fucked up more than it actually fixed :^)
Don't worry, it'll only take them 2 whole months to fix whatever issues arise.

>>535800641
Don't be so hard on yourself Mr Copeg. You'll get better with time.

>>535764770
First thing we definitely need is for Exe to instantly reload the weapon, like PBB.

>>535765469
A functioning team don't need stealth to do objectives. Basically running Stealth = planning for failure / bad teammates. It certainly helps saving bad runs though.
The biggest argument against Stealth is that it means -1 VoC.
VoC is also good for objectives, while also being good for everyone in the team throughout the entire mission all the time.

>>535787205
tru

>>535754478
>There are plenty of shorter missions for you to play
>plenty
there's 1.
my ideal "short" mission is 15-20 minutes
The train mission is sub 10. Everything else is usually 25min with rando retards. I'm missing that sweet spot between 15 and 20 minutes.

>>535650778
Some people can't play-by-feel. Maybe it's an IQ thing. I consider centered UIs to be an accessibility option, like color blindness mode. It's ugly as fuck but if that's what they require to enjoy the game then who am i to judge...

>>535804553
>A functioning team don't need stealth to do objectives. Basically running Stealth = planning for failure / bad teammates. It certainly helps saving bad runs though.
My argument would be that a functioning team doesn't need gold toughness spam either, and that certain objectives naturally become time sinks even under optimal circumstances. With enough enemy spam, even good teams might struggle to complete certain objectives, like carrying capsules, doing certain hacking puzzles (think Hab Dreyko), or basically everything in Clandestium.
If (an actually good) chorus zealot + psyker + shout vet already makes a complete trifecta, the fourth can easily afford to be a stealth veteran ensuring that no objective takes longer than 10 seconds to complete, where other teams might take minutes depending on what the spawns look like. I've run that exact lineup with stealth zealots for their massive damage output, but a krak veteran has similar value while also providing really, really good ranged damage. They're just more prone to failure due to not having a second life to fall back on, but that's just a skill issue.

All of the above is assuming havoc 40, of course. In aurics and below, the team will be utter shit and ignore objectives over 90% of the time, and shout being a force multiplier renders it worthless when your tards eat shit anyway.
In aurics, I will always bring stealth into Clandestium, Hab Dreyko and Rolling Steel, knowing with near certainty that my team will ignore objectives.

How do i deal with 4+ ragers attacking me at once as tardgryn? I suck too much to dodgespam them

>>535807274
Just knock them over

I remember some retarded making bait just like this a while ago, so i'm not sure if you are being serious

>>535807274
have you considered using a gun

>>535807274
as ogryn? just knock them over

>>535807274
Maybe try pushing as well?
Take the impact options from the left hand keystone?

>>535807373
>>535807409
>>535807431
Not bait, i run out of stam pushing them and lack the damage to finish them off alone :^(
Still leveling though and havent unlocked all weapons and talents so maybe there's that too.
>>535807384
Works out ok for like 1 or 2 of them but not when there are many or armored ones.

>>535808574
You'll lack a lot of power before you're fully leveled.

use MORE gun

>>535807274
Just take shield and hit Heavy 1 into them.
Also take no push over, it gives your push +250% stagger every 8 seconds which sends all ragers on their ass.

>guy spawns in with 0 HP
Uh, fatshark?

>>535808574
No worries. Just keep playing, you will get hang of dodging eventually.
Once you get to lvl 30 it gets better.

votekick the chink
barrelkill the slavnig
mock the jeetshills

>>535808908
Did he die instantly when he spawned in?

>>535808574
What melee are you using that struggles to stagger ragers?
Are you aiming for their heads?
As long as you're in melee, you should be swimming in toughness as long as you keep attacking, so even 4 ragers shouldn't be a major threat.
Maybe save your ability and use it when this happens. Taunt staggers enemies, bull rush bowls them over.
If you're still low level, you won't have access to massive stagger nodes, or the cooldown reduction near the bottom center, so it's naturally going to be harder.

>>535808908
>arby
what a waste, should have been zealot

>>535809008
No he just spawned in like that and was fine. Tested out whether this meant he would be invincible, instantly ate shit to a poxer, we all had a good laugh.
Rest of the run was the smoothest it's been in a while. I guess 3 True Survivors in the same group will do that.

I think I like reload aura better than dog aura, at least when using shotgun.
Extending coherency with the dog is vaguely useful sometimes, and the TDR is obviously useful, but I usually use the dog to snatch faraway enemies (meaning it's outside of coherency) and the coherency regen while solo/clutching is virtually pointless when Forceful already gives so much, never mind all the stuff in the top.
The reload speed almost directly translates to shotgun DPS whenever I need to fire more than 6 shots, such as into monstrosities. Also I was already using Imposing Force + Canine Morale anyway and am not swapping off them, so there's no point tax either way.

>>535808659
>>535808924
Thank you, going to keep pushing to 30. Just unlocked heresy difficulty and everyone else seems to be 10 levels higher atleast so i'll keep grinding that and/or lower diffs if the groups i join start wiping lots.
>>535808787
Gonna also do this, was using bully club and ripper gun with mostly middle/taunt talent path but avoiding push and stagger talents as i did not know how important they were.

>>535809178
Kek

>>535809681
What you'll probably find is that in Heresy and Damnation you'll wipe less because people playing them are much more competent than Uprising or Malice. Even if you're a shitter the three other mooks are more likely to be able to carry even with the increased difficulty. That's why you should always play the highest diff available, it also makes the level grind faster.

>>535809618
It's actually kinda crazy just how strong the zappy shotgun is, even into monster spam maelstroms. 2/3 of that boss damage was ranged, and this is supposed to be a melee focused build.
I'm just a little confused as to why our ogryn had such a small number when he was rumbler, but I guess he didn't use it very much. I didn't mind because that meant more ammo for me, but I think we could've done better had he just shot the thing more, especially with the reload aura. Team was very unga though. Good run.

>>535799509
Yeah I doubt we’ll start seeing some real daemons pouring in unless the narrative conveniently allows for us to receive massive reinforcements in the form of space marines or something, right now we’re at just a level that we can still believably handle things
>>535808751
This is true

>>535795737
I miss her…

>>535812538
>Fixed an issue where the “Hot Shot” blessing was scaling incorrectly over the tiers, while also remaining active while the secondary weapon was not wielded.
It's over

Darktide: the cuck times

>>535812794
>fixed execution order
Fucking finally, now to see whether it actually really is fixed.

Added: Daemons of Chaos Faction (was previously called beastmen by a mistake in the test branch)
Added: Ultramarine Neophyte Class that can futher specialize into becoming Assault, Devastator or Tactical Marine
Added: Exterminatus difficulty (Requires The End Times™ DLC to play)

>>535812794
Story mode is officially dead