Thread 535541290

>>>The Game<<<
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/

>>>News<<<
>05/08: New update - Bethesda confirming that "exciting things" are coming in the future: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1947686948799389848
>06/05: New update in Steam beta: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1919776896578982315
>06/03: Bethesda confirming future updates: https://x.com/StarfieldGame/status/1897709518013997493
>28/12: Phil Speer is now the lead quest designer for Starfield

>>>Resources<<<
>Compendium: https://starfieldcompendium.com/
>Mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/

>>>FAQ<<<
>Q: CK?
>A: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2722710/Starfield_Creation_Kit/
>Q: What's the deal with NG+(+...)?
>A: Restarts the game with minor changes to the story and world, while preserving your powers and skills. 10 cycles for suit upgrades, 6 cycles for upgrading the starborn ship
>Q: Should I reinstall?
>A: If you are excited about a customizable difficulty, 3D maps, ship decorations, new bounty hunting missions and mechanics, official mod support and a vehicle, then yeah

>>>Misc<<<
>/stag/ modlist: https://pastebin.com/rNtnZTES
>Artbook rips: https://mega.nz/file/TlJSBTwB#GhmrZRoHDAhhei__Bz2zc6GisgB67_vONrAfYQR8lK0
>Character builder: https://nukesdragons.com/starfield/character
>Threadly space music: https://youtu.be/xDjcu-Agors
>>>OP template<<<
>https://rentry.org/stag_op_new (will be periodically updated)

Previous Unity cycle: >>534093889

Total Sarah Love.

>>535541290 (OP)
Good vintage

>>535541429
MORGAAAAAAN

>>535541429
She's an easy lover
She'll get a hold on you, believe it
Like no other
Before you know it you'll be on your knees

>>535556601
That haircut is ragebait

So the Hunter just causally drops that he has memories of being on earth meaning he and Keeper Aquilus are hundreds of years old. And they do absolutely nothing with it, it's just a throw away line ultimately meaning nothing.

>>535566745
Starfield is pretty singular in its ability to become more disappointing the more time you spend with it, and there doesn't seem to be an end to it.

Might as well post this in here too. Some datamining has shown that Bethesda appears to be doing some internal testing for potential PlayStation and Nintendo releases, however this does not fully confirm that Starfield will actually be releasing on either system. This corroborates a leak from earlier this year where a Starfield mod accidentally listed support for PlayStation hardware. And one should be wary that the modding experience may be limited (PlayStation) or not be present at all (Nintendo) given the past Bethesda titles that released on these platforms

>>535566745
Starfield, like every other TES game, is infinitely better if you a) completely ignore the main quest and everyone associated with it exists and b) mod it to add more content outside the main quest.

>>535567423
Yeah... I think I'll just go play something that doesn't need me to do so much fucking work. Telling me to just ignore the main quest is moronic. You don't buy something to be told to just ignore a huge chunk of it for it to be good. You're just telling me its a bad product.

>>535567204
Not releasing on Playstation would be stupid. The only barrier is Sonys stance on external assets for mods. Creations arent essential. Least On Nintendo the game would need to be heavily optimized which is a bigger barrier to porting it

>>535566745
What would they do with that information anyway? It's there to indicate his age.

>>535566745
Nothing as in hedonism or nothing as in he robbed you blind just because (hedonism)?

>>535566745
Starfield has enough noticeably unfinished content and plot holes to the point that you just know that they were planning to expand on it through DLCs in the future, and this coincides with the fact that Bethesda wants to give 10 years of support to this game. I think the real problem with this game is that it's far too ambitious, so ambitious that it goes well beyond the 3-7 years of development time expected for your average game, and so Bethesda thought that they should fully adopt the "we'll just sell what we got now and finish it up later" mindset that came from not only Bethesda's fanbase being more forgiving of how broken their games are on release, but also the early access model people have been paying into for other games over the years.

>>535567736
>Yeah... I think I'll just go play something that doesn't need me to do so much fucking work. Telling me to just ignore the main quest is moronic. You don't buy something to be told to just ignore a huge chunk of it for it to be good. You're just telling me its a bad product.
Not a bad product, But thats basically every TES game, and Starfield is TES in space. TES games are not revered because of their stories, but what can be done in the open world. Skyrim endures not because the story is epic, its because a zillion mods are available to make the game pretty much how you want it.

While I am not overwhelemed by Starfield, I went into the launch of Starfield knowing most people that were hyping it up either had no experience with TES or were not paying attention to how Bethesda works, and blew their expectations way out of proportion.

I have 664.9 hours in Starfield and never progressed the main quest at all, dropped off the artifact at the Lodge, left and never went back.

>>535573330
to elaborate a bit; I remember Notch saying he added the Ender Dragon and the whole process of getting to it in Minecraft simply to give those that needed it something to do. But it was never intended to be the main reason to play the game, and only a vanishingly small precentage of the player base (speedrunners) play it for such. Same with TES.

>>535573749
https://youtu.be/dvAzPQBrKOc

>>535567736
>You don't buy something to be told to just ignore a huge chunk of it for it to be good
Didn't Bethesda themselves do just that by saying if you don't like a mechanic like space combat or outpost building just don't do it?

Already posted this in the last thread, right before it was archived. They were working on the game very late on Saturday night. Could mean they're putting the finishing touches on something for Gamescom. Or maybe it's a nothingburger.

there is no reason to have a general for a game that does not exist

>>535577045
And you believe you exist?

>>535576912
Don't they have it updated near daily? Or is Saturday an odd one?

>>535566745
What would you want to be done with it?

>>535580834
Have the hunter show up in the history of humanity and have it discoverable by us before we even know what Starborn are. It's not hard. They did it in Star Trek and Doctor Who a bunch of times

>>535583536
That sounds too complicated. Bethesda knew best to not try something like that.

Damn I feel sorry for these guys. At least Starfield has stayed steady for like a year

>>535576912
That gets updated all the time. It'll probably be playable at gamescon but there's no guarantee of any big changes.

>>535576912
>it's a nothingburger

>>535583802
It's not out yet, you fucking retard.

they could have done small things, like have planets change in ng+.
Sam Morrigan, Sarah Coe.
Different atmosphere, animals, plants, colors.
But no, its the same garbage through and through.

>>535583536
>Have the hunter show up in the history of humanity
if by "history of humanity" you mean pre space travel, then no, because the Aritfacts were not discovered until we got to Mars. If you meant after the destruction of Earth, that would make more sense, but its also not relevant. The entire point of the Hunter is that he really is not interested in the mundane affairs of humanity, and seeks only the power provided through the Unity. Human history would not show the Hunter showing up other than in some security vid of a fight with another starborn/proto-starborn. He would not stand out, just as none of the other starborn stand out in history, they dont care about it.

>>535583802
>At least Starfield has stayed steady for like a year
>life support = "steady"
lmao

Make a universe where Barret is likeable instead of an annoying redditor fag.

>>535583717
>>535584668
Shut up, cunts

Why do the Emissary and Hutner only show up once per universe? Surely other version of them should also be present in any universe if the universe you travel to is random? You could kill the Hunter and have another Hunter show up later on, from a different native universe than the first.

>>535584869
>Make a universe where Barret is likeable
>Shows a picture of an unlikable asshole

>>535583802
Holy fuck it died after one weekend. Thats rough. Goes to show how hard it is to keep the attention of today's little shits

>>535585010
Seems to be an implicit property of unity jumping that you never return to a universe you've been to. So each starborn can only appear once.

>>535585010
yes, you could. Make a mod.

>>535585103
Bitches love being dominated, our Barret is probbaly like a power bottom.

>>535585540
Okay but Aquila and Hunter are in the universe at the same time.

>>535585798
Given this, there really is no reason there should only be one of any particular starborn in the universe. There's no reason there aren't a whole army of hunters.

It always pisses me off how even the tiniest bit of scrutiny breaks apart the whole lore. Bethesda thought about the story of their universe for exactly one brief meeting and that was it.

>>535585540
That might not be the case since other Starborn versions of you can also appear within the same universe, unless you're some kind of anomaly. There's also the fact that the Starborn can also summon different versions of themselves from other universes

>>535585540
>So each starborn can only appear once.
Except that universe where 5 of Starborn you show up, or that universe where an evil Starborn you wipes out constellation, or the fact The Hunter and Aquillis are not just the same person but are both Starborn in the same universe.

There is nothing in the rules that says there can only be one Starborn of a person per universe

>>535585010
No one knows, not even Emil.

>>535585010
I wish you could kill the hunter and the emissary when you first meet them in NG+
They could have as many Artifacts as you do, when you do it and then you can just find the rest out there.

>>535586847
Will Shen wrote the MSQ and he's gone now

>>535587516
I tried it the second I boarded the Scorpius and sadly they were essential

>>535588615
welcome to Starfield

>>535588615
>Walk into bar on new atlantis.
>There he is, the bastard that killed my wife.
>Just unload on him.
>Citizens scream, Sarah is mad, police are coming.
>He just lies there in bleedout status.

Saars I bring dire news, Todd Howard will be at gamescom... to showcase the first trailer for the Season 2 of the Fallout TV show, there will be no Starfield announcements.

>>535592145
Leaders reported that week's ago

>>535592145
Leakers reported that weeks ago

>>535592145
its over

crazy to me that watchtower mod adds more to the game than sharted space dlc did

>>535594582
thats a hell of a hot take anon

>>535592145
Source and proof please

>>535594886
How so? You get cyberamps, station, followers, ship parts, armor, weapons, story, poi, etc. It also effects the base universe.

>>535597438
Also fleet mechanics and a larger ship collection

>>535597438
i think he was being sarcastic

Starfield 9 out of 10 space game. But how can it take them so long to make a single DLC when Obsidian releases 3 games in one year?

>>535604240
Because Obsidian games are shit. It's easy to cobble shit together. Their only decent game was a cobbled-together mod for Fallout 3.

>>535604926
According to many people, Bethesda is shit too. So that shouldn't be a barrier.

>>535605327
Bethesda isn't shit. Every Bethesda game is iconic and remembered. No one gives a shit about Obsidian's games or even remembers them, other than the aforementioned Fallout 3 mod.

>>535605581
>Every Bethesda game is iconic and remembered.
except starfield of course

>>535606673
Even if that was true, it's still more than Obshitian.

>>535606673
Starfield will beat the negativity and come out on top. Opinions will soften over the next couple of years. More base game updates will ensure it.

>>535606868
It is true
>>535607054
Have you ever heard of the expression 'cope'?

>>535607390
I already know it's a good game, just have to wait for others to realize. It's inevitable.

>>535607925
cyberpunk is an example of a game redeeming itself from the ashes. But CDPR are much more transparent with their customers than bethesda and actually communicate. You are utterly delusional

>>535607925
New Vegas was forgotten not too long after its release. It was only when those faggots started making video essays about it that it became popular. Then the trannies started claiming the game was trans, because trannies are fucked up and make no sense.

>>535608284
Not communicating doesn't mean anything for the end result. It's already clear to see Bethesda is doing things differently with this game. They're working on things like seamless spaceflight, which is a big change to base game mechanics. They never did anything like that with their other games. They are attempting their own version of a redemption arc.

If I use a pirated plugin from you know where to add Cryomancer to my game will the game detect it isnt legit and ban me from Bethesda net?

>>535604926
>Because Obsidian games are shit. It's easy to cobble shit together.
still on morrowind engine
>>535607054
>More base game updates will ensure it.
Are these base game upgrades in the room with us?
>>535609182
>It's already clear to see Bethesda is doing things differently with this game. They're working on things like seamless spaceflight
proof next thread

>>535612069
>still on morrowind engine
Yeah, and Bethesda games still effortlessly shit all over Obshitian games.

>>535612480
both companies true talent left years ago, we're in the dark times

>>535615056
That's just a false narrative being pushed by doomers with small willies. Doomers constantly say all media has been shit for 15 years, which is a false narrative. Video games, movies, music, and shows have been at their best these past years.

>>535615410
ah, you're either ragebaiting or retarded, got it.

>>535615410
Based. I'd rather listen to Sabrina Carpenter than Justin Timberlake. Anyways, Starfield?

>>535609697
I doubt Bethesda cares. I fairly recently got a points refund for a paid mod I had issues with and for some reason I still have access to it

>>535625397
They are pretty friendly, I abused their customer support in Fallout 76. Everytime I buy an outfit and it looks terrible in game, I ask for a refund and they allow me to keep it.

>>535625893
Probably because they already got your actual money and won't be refunding that.

>>535626115
Yeah but they gave me my atoms back and to make things worse I used an Argentinian account to get the lowest price possible. Outjewing Bethesda.

>>535612069
Yeah, there are several base game updates in the room with us already. I don't recall Fallout 4 getting a vehicle update that lets you drive around the Commonwealth.

>>535632363
>don't recall Fallout 4 getting a vehicle update that lets you drive around the Commonwealth
Fallout 4 did get a vehicle outdate, retard.

>played starfield on release
>everything sorta blended together when looking at a desk because of the graphics and honestly the main town was a hassle
>that and other things made me quit
>but now I'm in an open world sci-fi RPG mood so I'm thinking about coming back and giving it a second chance
I'm guessing only Starfield diehards are left here so I came to ask, did it get better with patches? I know they can't change the writing and dialogue at this point but what about gameplay and quests, layouts and empty planets, did they change those? I heard that even Starfield and Cyberpunk made a come back so I thought to myself, why not Starfield?

>>535634110
I'm a Starfield diehard: I take every valid criticism in bad faith and retort passive-aggressively. To answer your question: yes the game was improved with the patches. I won't go into specifics. And if you ask, I won't.

>>535634110
There have been several new additions to this game, new gameplay options to customize the difficult of your experience, bounty hunting feature, land vehicles, etc. Best to sift through the news section on Bethesda's website to get a more detailed look on what they've added to the game so far
https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield/news

>>535635476
Thanks, but rather than reading that can I just start a new game and encounter them organically into the main areas or were they just lazily dropped into the world and I have to read the articles to even find or enable them?

>>535635432
You're a troll, that's what.

>>535636635
Gameplay Options are available to you from the start, Land Vehicles are available to you the moment you're able to access a Ship Technician (you have to purchase the initial one, all the others you might add into your game are available to you for free), and I think you need to be at least level 15 to start the Trackers Alliance content, in which an NPC will approach you in a major city.

>>535636893
Grrr…

Why is DMX in this thread?

>>535634110
>did it get better with patches?
Not really. Runs better than release and there's a car now.
>I know they can't change the writing and dialogue at this point but what about gameplay and quests, layouts and empty planets, did they change those?
Not at all. Some mods try to fix it.

>>535634110
Core game play remains the same. If you didn't like it then, you won't like it now

>>535583802
Don't go pulling their leg

>>535586139
You can meet yourself in a universe. The inclusion of some cases doesn't preclude all other cases

>>535604240
VA strike delayed things, also they're porting it to the switch 2 and ps5 and overhauling some systems that people complained about like space travel.

todd howard...

>>535586139
This a problem with any setting with an infinite multiverse or time travel.

I don't mind dying peacefully on a Starfield planet
That should tell you how comfy they are

>>535651020
>The inclusion of some cases doesn't preclude all other cases
Why not? Don't pretend like this was done on purpose lol

Todd will go on stage in 2 days to announce it.

>>535682096
If he doesn't I think I'll just kill myself. Been putting it off in the hopes that things would improve but honestly, I sort of hope he doesn't.

People that hate the game don't even know what they want to "improve it".

Nevertheless, a substantial update is probably coming that people who actually played the game will enjoy.

Gergel Ebanex has been updated
-There's now some hotkey support for changing animations
-30 new animations with 20 of them tied to new furniture objects
-There's now an option to enable lesbian animations, none for gays due to bugs with the male genitals
-Ammo used by the Gergel Ebanex gun now replenishes itself
-Some bug fixes

Didn't realize how well the Operative Helmet goes with the UC Navy Armored Fatigues

>>535684735
How good are the animations, can't really tell from pics.

>>535689297
Pretty good, they rival some Skyrim and Sims 4 animations imo

>>535689498
I can have gay sex in these games but not Starfield so no they don't rival them

>>535696320
We're talking about the animation quality, not who you're able to fuck. And I'm pretty sure NAF Seduce does support gay men

>>535682339
Is Starfield even mentioned on any lists related to gamescom? We still have that "something to be announced later in the year" post to go on

>>535697275
Not mentioned. Could be one of the surprises that always happen at these shows, but I think the chance is very low. The "exciting things this year" line was from March, in a more recent message they changed the wording to "in the coming months." Maybe they'll show us something at The Game Awards in December.

>>535697275
Honestly that vague statement doesn't even guarantee an announcement would be made at Gamescom, could be literally any time prior to New Years. Honestly I'm hoping for a least a little teaser of the next DLC to drum up some hype, and it doesn't even have to include a set release date if September isn't planned. But at this point, if Bethesda doesn't just drop a trailer prior to December, then it will be an announcement at The Game Awards

Maybe they'll give us something small on the 2 year anniversary. Another Tracker's Alliance quest or something like that. But most likely they'll just put out a "thanks for 2 years" tweet and that's it.

I can breathe the air I hear

>>535698947
After the backlash over the Vulture I doubt Trackers alliance will ever be touched again

>>535704562
There was backlash over the fact it cost money, which means they'll release the next mission for free. They are fun quests, just too short to be worth paying extra for.

>>535703926
Alright Todd, is this another ARG?

>>535706131
Todd's not here, man

>>535706934
You never know, he could be on his phone killing time during his flight to Germany

I am tired of random ladder placement in habs, and the place ladders yourself mod is ass.

>>535632363
You have the vertibird.

>>535712112
Hopefully Bethesda will have learned enough from Starfield's ship gameplay to let players have full control of one in Fallout 5 rather than just serve as a scenic means of fast traveling. Hell, I hope that game will also have vehicular combat on the ground as well

>>535712835
I feel like it won't work as well unless they come up with a "new vertibird". The current model requires someone to aim and shoot and another to pilot the thing. It makes sense why you can't fly it while at the minigun. I guess they could have added the option to pilot it instead but honestly it still was one of my favourite features form the game even without the ability to actually fly it.

When's the new season out? Might try to cram another playthrough of F4 in before it drops.

>>535716070
wtf you talking about a season?

>>535712835
Fallout 5 better have 16 times the map size if we can control these things. And while they're at it give us cars.

>>535716467
He's probably talking about the Fallout show. From what I looked up, the next season starts in December

>>535716070
New season is coming out in December.

>>535716467
76 or something

>>535716796
Imagine a game the size of Fallout 76 but with cars. That would actually be amazing. I imagine it'd be a lot like that underrated Mad Max game

>>535717016
That game was actually really good. I wish Bethesda would return to the east coast and include some deserts to drive across ala Fallout 2

>>535716796
I would rather they gave us motorcycles. Or both, I wouldn't mind.

>>535716070
Did they fix that bug they introduced in the next gen update? I could probably do with jumping back into that too.

>>535718065
Bikes for the BoS to turn them into the real steed-riding knights of the wasteland would be fucking amazing.

>>535718078
no, they left the game to rot

>>535718579
They left Starfield to rot. They're returning to Fallout 4 with the release of the new season of the TV show.

>>535717247
This but Texas. I've already basically designed a Texas based Fallout with cars and multiple cities in my head. I even thought of factions and shit with like wasteland city states separated by raider gang infested highways and highway towns. I imagine you could join like a highway patrol faction. Some of the towns would be blockaded forcing you to explore on foot or drive around.

>>535718773
>They're returning to Fallout 4 with the release of the new season of the TV show
where is your proof

>>535718412
That would be cool

>>535718773
They shouldn't have left the game broken over a year with not a single word about it. Fuck you and Fuck Bethesda.

>>535718974
Different anon. Bethesda confirmed it a while ago:
https://www.gamingbible.com/news/fallout-76-new-dlc-confirmed-101671-20250713

>>535719082
>>535718412
Holy fuck yes. Armored knights on bikes charging into battle against the raiders, wiping out whole swathes of ghouls.

>>535719402
I see nothing about a Fallout 4 update in that.

brb reinstalling fallout 4. gonna have to uninstall some stuff to make room.

>>535719604
Jesus Christ dude, this isn't google. Go look up your own shit.

>>535719775
Why did you provide a link then? That had no mention of this supposed it update? Fucking idiot.

If people can mod moving trains into other Bethesda games, they can mod them into Starfield

>>535719898
I'm not that anon. I'm just someone observing a useless piece of shit.

>>535719617
You could make room by uninstalling Starfield.

>>535720151
turn up your brightness so you don't see your reflection in the screen so easily

TBC game on Bethesda's gamescom schedule. Could it be?

>>535721376
The schedule just now got updated and it's boring Indiana Jones and Doom bullshit. Being a Starfield fan is depressing.

>>535721376
ehhh https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1mtg3jm/comment/n9d82yc/

It's fucking over

>>535721904
I swear if the "exciting things to be announced later this year" is just the same deal as the f4 next-gen update...

>>535722267
It's not going to be like that, it will be a real update. But it ain't going to be this year.

>>535722327
I meant news that are to be announced this year. I'm fine if the actual release is next year, could be a good sign for a big enough update.

>>535721904
>>535721932
Todd nobody cares about this boomer game.

>>535723258
Indian Jones is good, though.

>>535724560
With prune juice

>>535722107
It hasn't even begun.

Would a person's perception of time flow differently if some events in the past occurred differently? If I thought of this same question with my past altered, would I have actually thought of it yesterday or tomorrow instead of today?

>>535741579
wut

dead game. fraid so

>>535741579
Assuming you're not quoting something: It depends on how that thought occured to you in the first place. Is it from a past experience? is it inspired from someone? (e.g. artwork or a conversation)

Next DLC will be announced during the developer direct in January, with a release in March. The PS5 version will have already been announced by then. This PS5 announcement will come with zero information, no release date or mention of included DLC, it will just be a confirmation that will randomly drop on the internet one day. More PS5 information will be given during a State of Play sometime in February.

My source is that it sounds like something that would happen.

>>535753339
It's going to be announced with something more positive. Possibly a tie in to lure people back into the game

We know they're working on a supercruise for ships, all we need now is a POI overhaul too. What else does Starfield need fixing in order to get normalfags interested in it again?

>>535754112
Just seamless boundary transition between maps on each planet.

>>535754112
It has to be on PS5, that's the only other feature required

>>535754649
I think that's easily done if they replaced the black screen everytime you load with a fixed animation of entering planets.

>>535754649
It's technically possible to do this already if you hardcore fuck with the settings. Someone proved it by crossing a few landing zones on Jemison and they were able to reach New Atlantis. The problem is that the performance turns to shit and weird things start happening. It's something they were coding for at some point, but didn't finish the process. The logic exists deep inside the game, they just need to finish the work. Starfield can be a truly incredible game some day.

>>535749503
yep

can we go back to talking about fallout? that was fun

>>535754112
>We know they're working on a supercruise for ships
No you don't.

>>535754112
>We know they're working on a supercruise for ships, all we need now is a POI overhaul too
And.. you know.. a compelling story, characters with some depth, meaningful decisions, a world with some kind of personality and style... I could go on.

>>535763003
You've got a whole different general intended for that, but alas, discussion quality of a particular subject on 4chan is always better when it's being discussed in the wrong place

>>535763710
Uhh. There's nothing about Starfield worth talking about. ANY subject discussed here would be better. And has always been. The topic of anything actual Starfield is literally cancerous for the thead.

>>535763567
this. Supercruise is nothing in the scheme of things.

>>535764112
>>535763567
fuck of haters

What feature from starfield would you want to see in Fallout 5 and even ES6?

>>535763882
And that's par the course. Trying to have a decent discussing of anything in a place where it's actually intended to be discussed attracts obnoxious autists like you wouldn't believe who like to shit it up, see Dragon Ball threads on /a/. Starfield likely has quality discussions elsewhere, but it's going to be in places no one knows about.

>>535764832
>And that's par the course
*Par for the course
>>535764832
>Trying to have a decent discussing of anything in a place where it's actually intended to be discussed attracts obnoxious autists like you
What?
>>535764832
>see Dragon Ball threads on /a/
No thanks
>>535764832
>Starfield likely has quality discussions elsewhere
Like where?
>>535764832
>but it's going to be in places no one knows about.
That's convenient.

Contracts anon. You took all that time to say exactly nothing.

>>535754112
Increasing the limit of archives and item ID limits

>>535764832
*decent discussion

>>535765207
>Like where?
No Sodium Starfield is one of them

>>535765413
>No Sodium Starfield is one of them
Then fuck off there.

>>535765679
I already alternate between this general and that place, though I mostly only lurk around there and starfieldmods for information about updates and upcoming mods to share here.

sex with sarah on exotic worlds

>>535764381
>fuck of haters

>>535766495
You're fully aware "of" is meant to be "off" and yet you shitpost. Why do you have such urges?

>>535764786
>What feature from starfield would you want to see in Fallout 5 and even ES6?
TeSVI is getting ship building. So naturally the game will be stale ass like starfield.>>535765413
>No Sodium Starfield
lmao, redditfags in their hugbox

>>535763882
Shitposters are always saying retarded shit like this. It's like trying to tell an ADHD kid to stop moving for one second.

It's just like a mini mall

>>535769065
>All these non shadowd light sources
Some modders really need to take a course on lighting

>>535769065
>Ships and serviced has a model of a starborn ship

Some interesting looking mods I overlooked
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/10551
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/11407

There are two Starborns in this club

>>535773874
Where's this? I want to bust it down with them

>>535777930
The second mod above my post

>ship gameplay in Starfield really makes me want to re-buy Ass Creed 4 on Steam since those of us who got it on the Wii U got shafted pretty hard on the DLC content
>40 bucks
Wish I had thought to buy that game during the summer sale. Also Starfield needs a crew sing along mod

>>535778843
>Also Starfield needs a crew sing along mod
That seems awkward in space, given how quiet and motionless it is.

why does serana keep doing this
she has a weird AI

>>535787751
man that armor looks like dogshit from behind, i think i'm going to switch it out
probably it was designed with cloaks in mind

>>535773147
It's my favorite spot on the citadel.

Why doesn't the game have path tracing?

>>535754649
I don't know shit about technical stuff but why can't the game just unload tiles behind you far off from your visual? It could load like 1 ahead and 1 behind at all times. Would it lag or freeze up? It could also gradually load and unload as you get close to the edge.

>>535796034
Let them fix the performance first before they add path tracing

I have lost . . . Starhope . . .

>>535773147
Modders have no restraint and no taste

>>535773147
>>535806789
What's wrong with that? Starborn ships look cool.

I wonder how many loads Barrett had up his ass…

>>535808054
You're trying to break his record?

>>535806906
They don't, and they also don't fit the environment. It's a very reddit my-first-mod sort of way to build things.

This looks like it could be a Starborn vehicle
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14579

>>535809940
I'd argue it's even deeper than that. Starborn ships are supposed to be secret, so the person responsible for that mod can't even think abstractly.

>>535810474
That mod in particular is designated as a large player home base, and leans towards a glorified cheat room because of the amount of supplies in there (including Starborn suits), so one can assume that the people living there are also aware of the Starborn.
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/13139

Bonking your favorite girl on the couch while the TV is running is a level of comfy I didn't expect to experience outside of The Sims.

>>535812842
Such a boomer thing to do. I want to bonk my girl while I scroll on tiktok watching videos saying "which bedroom are you sleeping the hardest"

>>535813278
Does the internet even exist in Starfield?

>>535813369
Yeah star system wide

>>535810467
>This looks like it could be a Starborn vehicle
no this

>>535813369
But you cant make interstellar calls. Apart from the times when you can.

>>535814608
lol, maybe in your universe

Do Starborn have foreskins?

>>535815246
They've got to hold one to what they've got

>>535815430
That doesn't answer the question. That's like saying:
>"What percentage of men have been circumcized?"
And an equivalent of your answer being:
>"The ones that have been circumcized."

>>535815728
The thing is I don't think about dicks enough to care, unlike those closeted folks on /pol/.

>>535815873
You don't have to care about dicks to answer the question. Your reasoning is all over the place.

>>535541290 (OP)
Todd says it like a clumsy retard, but he's right.

>>535816398
Western rpgs are often rooted in imagination, and Japanese rpgs are often rooted in dreams. You typically have control over your imagination, but rarely are you able to control your dreams.

>>535815246
Massive anteaters on em from all the stretching and jelqing. Todd's personal touch.

>>535813369
In New Atlantis and Neon, probably. Everywhere else seems so backwards and barely settled that there wouldn't be a point. There's really no sense in these people who opt to live in a shared hut on a barren moon with no bathroom as homesteaders or whatever when nearly all of Jemison is uninhabited still. Hell, there are TWO breathable planets with edible food right there in the same solar system, with barely one real settlement. The whole thing is poorly thought out.

>>535817792
Poet

>>535815246
Short answer: Depends on their mood. Enhance exists, and now we can change appearance and Traits on Unity jump.

Long answer:
Are people of certain cultures/subcultures more likely to commit a Unity jump than others? Are the ones who grew up in a environment that, incidentally, practices circumcision, more or less likely to be the sort of people that would dare make a jump?

Does the circumcision persists across jumps like that implant from Ryujin? Or does the implant only persists across jumps because it's connected to the brain? After an update, we can change traits and appearances, what are the chances that some would choose to be circumcised? What about Enhance? Va'ruun sure doesn't really like Enhance, does that mean they don't circumcise? What are the chances there would be a Va'ruun Starborn given the isolationist policy, secret operatives (like Andreja) notwithstanding?

I'm unhappy to have written all that

>>535827084
This is the sort of shit that Starborn DLC needs to answer

What are the chances of announcement today? 1 percent or maybe 5?

>>535834640
0.000000001%

>>535838506
Yeah, that's fair. At least we might get to see Todd's cute face when he present the Fallout season 2 trailer.

>>535839754
True. Todd is what matters the most.

>>535834640
Leak is
>STARBORN DLC
>Interplanetary seamless traveling and seamless landing
>150 new points of interest that can generate
>emphasis is on deep space structures
>trainwiz creation drop, adding big dyson spheres hidden in areas
>starborn temple overhauls making them actual dungeons that don't need to be repeated
>evil female starborn companion

>>535843149
>evil female saarborn
It's going to be thaf mysterious merchant ship innit

>>535843503
She's not evil.

>>535843945
All Starborn are evil

>>535843149
When is announcement/release?

Starfield has passed an 11k mod milestone. Approximately 3000 more and it will end up surpassing Morrowind and come close to BG3's numbers.

>>535845374
What are the numbers for each game after you remove the character presets and save files passed off as mods?

>>535845507
BG3 goes down by 702 mods and Starfield goes down by 721

>>535846091
If you also exclude mod translations, BG3 goes down by an extra 4.5k and Starfield goes down by 1.2k, effectively putting Starfield in the lead by about 115 mods.

>>535847041
Makes sense

>>535843149
>dyson spheres hidden in areas
Like trying to hide a polar bear in a kiddie pool

Todd didn't even show up for Fallout, it's time to give up and let this general thread die.

>>535810467
cybertruck

>>535843149
cope
>>535847041
>If you also exclude mod translations
What if you remove recolored skins?

>>535857832
There's no tags for recolors, but I guess if I searched up the word recolor, BG3 loses 5 mods and Starfield loses 59, effectively keeping Starfield ahead by 61 mods.

>>535810467
People don't see that this car looks like this because this author doesn't know how to texture a 3d model lol, in starfield a lot of objects use decals atlases to do shit like seams, bolts, and a lot the details, also overlays for dirt and shit like that, but these faggots are so lazy that they just put a generic material on top of it and call it a day

>can't sleep with companions in Outer Worlds 2
Welp

>>535859975
Obsidian lost their balls big time

Fallout Season 2 trailer just dropped. Looks really good.

>>535861101
It does look pretty sweet. But as soon as I saw Todd wasn't on stage to reveal it, I knew Starfield was DOA

>>535861552
Wouldn't take it as a sign. Todd probably wants nothing to do with Starfield.

>>535861670
Todd just wants Indiana Jones and that's not even his studio lmao

Bethesda hired the dude who written the best parts of mass effect 3 as a writer. I guess they took the "emil is a shit writer" complaints seriously.

>>535864785
Probably just for TES VI, though

>>535864889
Probably but i read that some other dude got promoted into a writer for starfield like a few months back, it seems like Bethesda wants people to like their writing instead of calling it shit.

Honestly the opening night was pretty meh. I'm sort of glad Starfield wasn't really part of it

>>535864785
But emil has never written all the quests anon

Nate the Hate claims that Starfield will also be coming to the Switch 2 next year
https://x.com/NateTheHate2/status/1957886310896796027

>>535866915
And yet it'll still be unplayable on the steam deck

>>535864785
Why is that retard Luke Stevens saying he is the writer for Veilguard? is he?

>>535867827
I never played that game but I heard the parts he wrote specifically are pretty good

>>535864785
That might be a good sign, but it might be nothing. Writing is half the battle, presentation is the other half. Compare a character in Cyberpunk to one in Starfield, how they talk and move and look, there is no comparison. You might end up with better lines delivered statically and robotically.

Steam recently added a means of sorting and filtering game reviews by languages. As you can see with Starfield in particular, most of the languages accounted for have mixed opinions of the game with 6 being more positive, and Koreans being the only ones that have a negative opinion of it. As Starfield improves some more with time, we might see some of these become more positive.

>>535864785
>Bethesda hired the dude who written the best parts of mass effect 3
LMAO

>>535866915
Yeah they are definitely gonna be releasing starfield in 2026 with the DLC and system overhauls, the game sold extremely well but the word of mouth killed post launch sales. They worked hard to fix fallout 76 and I dont see them leaving starfield behind either.

Any good mods come out since launch?

>>535882338
Yes

>>535882567
Nice

We will be back stronger than ever
Trust.

I like the idea of an older, kind of predatory Sarah taking advantage of the younger (maybe scandalously so) female members of Constellation, especially new members, and forcing them to do various things for her which may or may not be actually be scientific in nature.

Didn't even know this mod had enemy filled interiors

Let's see what these look like

I guess we'll just keep the dream alive until March or whenever the fuck they're announcing something. I remember thinking the wait between the Xbox show in June and Gamescom felt like it was going to take forever.

Fuck this game, man. Fuck Bethesda. Every game has been an exercise in tolerance and now its just obscene.

Not much to see here yet

>>535887913
Oddly generated terrain and that's about it. It was fun for a couple of screenshots.

>>535888543
Perfect place for the Adoring Fan to come running up to you

>>535567154
It really is wild how every single potentially interesting plot thread they IMMEDIATELY go out of their way to extinguish, like every time they always without fail pick the lamest possible choice

>>535888504
What, you don't like waiting 2 years between DLCs while other devs pump out games and updates non-stop?

God I hate Bethesda for EVERY fucking thing they've done in relation to this game...

I feel bad for Obsidian fans

>>535892932
What happened? Besides that game looking like slop on arrival

>>535893128
They gets no bitches in the Outer Worlds sequel either >>>/v/718511461

>>535890973
BGS has no soul anymore, just look at their official servers and x

>>535697275
>Is Starfield even mentioned on any lists related to gamescom? We still have that "something to be announced later in the year" post to go on
SAG strike ended in July. There's zero chance they're done recording voice lines.

>>535893276
Just date the trannies, the outer worlds 1 was a borefest after the first area

>>535876415
>As Starfield improves some more with time, we might see some of these become more positive.

Anyone tried this mod? It adds drones to the game, but I can't find any gameplay vids on it
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/fa93f896-3af4-4f3e-a678-73beb8768ec9/Modular_Explosive_Delivery_System

Please Todd just 1 pixel of content

I'm surprise this general doesn't have anons talking about doing weird stuff with their parents

>>535897602
Pussy

There is no way that the switch 2 port could be a good thing. Unless it's a different version or something, it would severely limit the capability of the game going forward.

>>535904559
>it would severely limit the capability of the game going forward.
Assuming there IS a going forward. I think once the next DLC comes out, that's it. All hands on Elder Scrolls 6

>>535905736
lol no. They're going to keep their promise to support this game and just leave a small side team behind to do some upkeep while possibly delivering some mini DLCs on Creations in between. Hell, the fact that both Skyrim and Fallout 4 have some development activity going on right now is a clear indicator that Starfield isn't going to be abandoned outright.

>>535896905
The game was supposed to be good. I cant start an incest colony because the base game doesn't inspire.

>>535896905
The weird fags are too busy crying >>535909601
>>535904559
Cloud version perhaps

>>535912040
I can't see the swirch being abld to fit this game onto their carts much less run it. The memory cards are ridiculously expensive too

>>535913340
They'll probably lower texture resolutions and compress audio data to fit it on a cartridge while also requiring you to connect online to download some extra data to your hardware, otherwise it will probably just run from the cloud like the other anon said.

>>535913340
They made a ultra low mode setting recently, they're just gonna lower textures dramatically to make things fit. It'll run fine.

Is this it? A whole year of nothing?

>>535920203
You ain't seen nothing yet. By this time is the year, there will be soo much nothing that it will make this nothing look like nothing.

>>535920203
You ain't seen nothing yet. By this time next year, there will be soo much nothing that it will make this nothing look like nothing.

>>535905736
That depends entirely on the reception to Starborn and the PS5 launch. If they flop then yeah, they gonna pretend this game never existed.

>>535920203
>>535921067
You will be ashamed of your words and deeds soon enough

>>535921385
The game's doing well if the success of watchtower is any indication. They'll never outright abandon Starfield. As much as people like to bitch and moan there's no other like it on the market

>>535932979
lmao

Xbox broadcast day 1 starting in one hour! Surely Tim Lamb will show up with a sweet visor on and blow our dicks apart with crazy Starfield news

>>535894240
Trailer is up for it. Looks like an ideal mod to have for tactical warfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwlXzQt8O9Y

Oh, and it looks like people are finally modding in working gambling machines. It's 400 creation credits for this one though
https://creations.bethesda.net/en/starfield/details/59df20e7-f212-47c4-a8ad-384c6ad3fcc0/Grav_Jack___Red_Mile_Casino_Game

>>535946956
$5 bucks for a high school class project

>>535945736
why so early

>>535948639
It's in Germany

>>535950603
Why do they have their broadcasts so early?

>>535950887
Maybe they want less people to see how boring and depressing it's going to be

Thread needs more starry night music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKh6XxYbbIc

If a modder can't secure passable voice actors or doesn't know the first thing about level design then they shouldn't be allowed to charge for their mod. Galactic Harvest looks like it was put together by somebody who only just discovered the creation kit. I'm just glad I didn't pay for it before playing it.

Heads up for UK anons: Unless your account is over 10 years old in which case they won't ask you for one, Age Verification will go into effect on Nexus next week
https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15346

>>535958463
People will just send them picks of norman reedus's face from death stranding.

>>535958007
Oddly realistic

>>535958463
lol for some reason my account is over 15 years old. It even predates Skyrim. Must have been trying to mod Oblivion or something.

>>535963427
Almost the same for me, created my account 13 years ago and of course the first mod I download was a big titty mod for Oblivion
https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34391

>>535963761
I remember seeing some of those big tit mods (made by gooks ofc) back around 2008, and it blew my mind. Of course goon mods are ten a penny now, but it was special back then since the only porn games I can recall were trash like Strip Pot and Leisure Suit Larry.

I feel like installing mods was an arcane process back then in which nobody really knew what they were doing. Vortex just does all the shit for you now, they really figured out how to make modding completely braindead, yet people still manage to fuck it up lol.

What's the news around this game? No articles just use your words, please.

>>535907348
>a clear indicator that Starfield isn't going to be abandoned outright.
funny, it appears as if its abandoned already outside of verified creators

>>535965976
>What's the news around this game?

>>535965976
Nothing, and there will continue to be nothing until 6 months from now at the very least. Probably no DLC or update until next Summer or Fall, if we're being honest with ourselves. Time to give up and move on for a long time.

>>535965976
-PS5 and Switch 2 release leaks
-DLC likely being held back for the above leak
-Interplanetary Travel leak
Only official information we have is that Bethesda will have things to share with us in the coming months, that's it.

>>535971347
Yeah, just play another game until then. It took 5 years for Cyberpunk and No man's sky to be good. Starfield will need less time than that.

>>535972649
>CP77 is almost 5 years old already
Where does the time go?

>>535974563
Time flies when nothing continues to happen

>>535975590
Time flies when you keep yourself busy and you get older. Time felt like it was standing still when I was younger and a NEET doing nothing all day.

>>535975590
Then why does exploring a barren planet in Starfield feel like an eternity?

>>535566745
Its me, I am the Hunter, or I will be the Hunter.

>>535976428
because of ur mama

>>535976428
Because you lack the Wanderer's Spirit. Some of you would honestly be better off attending a lecture on space than actually exploring a more "realistic" recreation of it in a video game.

I haven't touched the game since March. Is it fun yet?

>>535980357
If you're unwilling to see for yourself, then no, it's not fun yet.

>>535980837
I'm unwilling to continue "seeing for myself" when I already have 140 hours of sleep-inducing playtime. I'll check back in six months.

Toilets are just another form of control.

>>535983893
Loss of control is the first thing to go, Eddy.

>>535921385
How is the game not going to flop on ps5? Unless they completely overhaul the game before launch they will see the problems that a lot of people have with the game currently, and we will have essay sloptubers doing new videos

>>535989765
They'll release a big update along with the PS5 release, and they'll release Tyrone from jail to promote it.

>>535972649
>Starfield will need less time than that.
Do you really believe this?
The game is fundamentally flawed at its base, it would need a complete overhaul to everything.

>>535994194
What are these fundamental flaws?

>>535996537
clunky movement, small cells, load screens, shit stories, shit space everything (ship builder works though), crappy gunplay, lack of clothing/armor/weapon options/variance, boring "aliens", boting planets, boring fights, on and on

>>535996537
NTA but weapons need to be rebalanced to feel less limp and the perk tree needs a complete overhaul. I like the challenges but a lot of them don't make any sense and are just there to be tedious. The main quest is gay and boring too but I don't expect them to rewrite it. They also need to make outposts more useful or at least kind of fun to build like the settlements in Fallout 4 but I don't know where to start with that.

Do you like braincages and reptiles? No? Too damn bad, we have those and 6 plants in the universe.

>>535998826
Foxbat redeems all

>>535998826
These guys are cute.

>>535996537
Braindead AI on par with Oblivion (without the funny).

No cinematic moments like what you’d expect from a space opera.

Ship building works and is good, but it’s missing key elements like custom placement of doors and stairs, and also lacks variety in parts (and no, mods don’t count).

NPCs don’t have schedules.

Thousands of planets but only a small pool of POIs, so you’ll end up seeing almost all of them within a few days.

Weapons, suits, and clothing lack variety.

Melee combat is terrible.

Nothing in the world contributes to immersion: screens don’t work, TVs don’t work, radios don’t exist.

Elevators are just load screens.

Even though the files for a complete set of rails exist, the NAT is still just a load screen.

NPCs don’t dock at space stations, so they never visit them.

Landing ships in cities are just set dressing — nobody ever comes out of them.

No one besides you uses the land vehicle, which makes it feel like people rely on massive ships just to move from the city to a POI that’s only a few miles away.

didn't read lol

>>536001135
>No cinematic moments
Todd games were never into this
>Weapons, suits, and clothing lack variety.
Weapon variety is good
>Melee combat is terrible.
Most people use guns 99% of the time.
>No one besides you uses the land vehicle,
Very few people used horses in Skyrim and none for combat. You were never attacked by horsemen.
There were no carriages around either, just those waiting outside the main towns. No actual caravans or people in carriages moving around, just people on foot and very rarely some mounted hunters.
Pretty much the last 1/3 of your post while technically correct, doesn't matter as much as you make it seem.

>>536002608
>Most people use guns 99% of the time.
Because melee combat is terrible.
>You were never attacked by horsemen.
Because that game was made 15 years ago.

>>535998826
I like the Hunting Cephalopods.

>>536002608
>Very few people used horses in Skyrim and none for combat. You were never attacked by horsemen
You say this like this isn't a bad thing

>>536002608
>Pretty much the last 1/3 of your post while technically correct, doesn't matter as much as you make it seem.

It's fine it's things that I've read and other that I personally care about, there are many other things that I didn't put there like problems with the uniques and other stats stuff that I don't really care about

>>535998826
Occasionally, you see weird animals you never saw before but the repeating animals are annoying, even with all the convergent evolution/panspermia/creation lope in my head.
Still one of the weirdest Todd games in terms of creatures.
Also while some plants are weird, colorful and all, youi don't have some weirder things like giant silicon-based trees piercing the clouds on low gravity planets

>>536003112
It is a bad think that isn't criticized so much in another game.

>>536003803
Because that game was made 15 years ago.

>>536002840
Melee doesn't fit the setting unless some specific niche activity. It's already enought that it exists in the first place.
>but muh sardaukar and Dune stuff
This ain't Dune
>that game was made 15 years ago.
Not an excuse really

>>536004384
Yeah, but some kind of backstab at least would have been nice or fitting animations for the different types of weapons (and no I'm no saying moving like faggot while using the katana), also it's not that wild to take out your fire axe when you run out of ammo

>>536004384
>Melee doesn't fit the setting
>Dune
>Mass Effect
>Star Trek
>Star Wars
>The Expanse
The only space setting without some kind of melee specialization that comes to mind is Starship Troopers but we're not fighting hordes of giant bugs in this setting.
>Not an excuse really
Great then we can compare the procgen to Daggerfall to make a point about how great Starfield is. Retard.

>>536004979
Going melee with strong, fast moving, large, potentially poisonous animals is retarded, only used as a last resort. And eve then not like a melee attack, like imagine a spacesuit modification that electrocutes enemies that reach melee range.
Mellee combat is something that would only fit if you were in a mech suit like Ripley when fighting the Xenomorph queen. If they implemented something like that in Starfield then yes that would be good.
Otherwise no
faggot

>>536003517
I shall call it the angry volcano

>>536006301
>pretends every single enemy in the game is a terramorph
>absolutely no humans anywhere
Okay now make the case for why melee weapons don't make sense in a setting where 99% of your enemies are human raiders packed in tight corridors you disingenuous faggot.

>>536006651
You shot in corridors

The poster above me is a bonobo ape.

>>536006991
>ape that has lots of sex
lmao I wished

>>535889275
All the cool shit already happened off screen

>>536008483
I want to know more about Starborn Cora and her crusade across the multiverse to find and kill her (you).

>>535997438
>clunky movement
The movement in Starfield is the most smoothest of all Bethesda games yet. So you're nitpicking with this one.
>small cells
The cells are the correct size. Sometimes you should be careful for what you wish for.
>load screens
The loading screens don't take that long.
>shit stories
The stories in Starfield are good, as they incorporate nuance. I can understand how nuance can be boring to some, but gamers who are more academically-inclined enjoy when entertainment is a bit more intellectual-involved.
>shit space everything (ship builder works though)
Space in the game functions as intended. There's no outstanding issues here.
>crappy gunplay
The gunplay in Starfield is currently the best we've seen in a Bethesda game.
>lack of clothing/armor/weapon options/variance
There's enough that it doesn't feel like bloat.
>boring "aliens"
While the aliens lack sapience, that doesn't stop them from being visually interesting.
>boting planets
Each planet feels diverse enough.
>boring fights
The AI is currently the best in any Bethesda game so far.
>>535997821
>weapons need to be rebalanced to feel less limp
The weapons in the game feel right for an RPG. Starfield isn't a shooter; Starfield is an RPG with shooter elements.
>the perk tree needs a complete overhaul. I like the challenges but a lot of them don't make any sense and are just there to be tedious
The challenges help with making RP feel practical, rather than being mere pretending.
>The main quest is gay and boring too but I don't expect them to rewrite it
The main quest isn't homoerotic, and certainly isn't boring. Maybe on a second playthrough the story beats aren't as exciting, but that's all stories.
>They also need to make outposts more useful or at least kind of fun to build like the settlements in Fallout 4
The settlement-building was neither useful or fun. You couldn't even place a fence without it hovering.

Melee fags should just give up tbqh Fallout was already pushing it too far and in Starfield, it's just retarded to see someone slowly descending from low gravity just to get a melee kill. Who are we fooling? A basic pistol would've killed a melee fag immediately.
>But this is a game
A game that can't communicate the fantasy of melee builds without going into the magic territory, i.e. using starborn powers or VATS, if it's Fallout.

>>536011057
>Bethesdas best yet
Shit that is twice as good is still shit

>>536011819
>shit analogy
Good morning!

>combat shouldn't be fun because it's an RPG
>running out of breath 20 times to increase your stamina is practical and fun
>the story that has no beats and was universally panned for being boring isn't boring
>the settlement building system that had hundreds of mods and an official game expansion by this point in its lifecycle wasn't fun so it's okay that this one is terrible
All good points. Thanks for enlightening me.

>>536011819
You're acting immature right now.
>>536011992
>combat shouldn't be fun because it's an RPG
RPGs are about progression. Shooters aren't beholden to such gameplay design.
>running out of breath 20 times to increase your stamina is practical and fun
You're supposed to unlock it by naturally playing the game.
>the story that has no beats and was universally panned for being boring isn't boring
The story wasn't universally panned for being boring.
>the settlement building system that had hundreds of mods and an official game expansion by this point in its lifecycle wasn't fun so it's okay that this one is terrible
The building system in Starfield is an improvement.

>Paraphrasing to make him sound dumb
Yikes! anything but a healthy argument from Starhaters

Starfield is a good game, if you don't like it that just means you don't like it. It doesn't mean the game is bad.

>>536014648
>The Lord of the Rings: Gollum is a good game, if you don't like it that just means you don't like it. It doesn't mean the game is bad.

>>536014834
Yes

>>536015386
Then nothing can be bad which means nothing can be good, so Starfield isn't good. Sorry.

>>536015474
And it's not bad either, see how that works?

>>536015768
In your retarded worldview where nothing can be analyzed critically, yes. In the real world where we make valuations for products that we pay money for, no, it can be and is bad.

>>536011057
>most smoothest
Stopped reading right there.

>>536014834
Fake argument. Gollum is the equivalent of a pile of shit in a toilet, whereas Starfield is like pineapple pizza. People who just don't like the flavor combo are extremely angry about how they don't like it, for some reason

>>536017401
Starfield is shit from a butt.

>>536017574
Is that why you're posting here? Do you eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

>>536017648
Oh I don't play Starfield. I have taste and value my time.

>>536017401
Sorry but you already said
>Yes

I swear Todd has created the worst "fandom" ever. At least Star Wars nerds will still go and watch Star Wars. Half the Starfield "Players" don't even play Starfield and they fucking hate it kek

>>536016260
You can criticize anything, doesn't mean people have to obey your criticism and think in black and white.

>>536017747
But you spend time on this dogshit website trolling people who play a game you dislike? I assume this is just a later in the day activity for you, after you're tired out from working or whatever.

>>536018063
>But you spend time on this dogshit website trolling people who play a game you dislike
Yes. Because Starfield isn't fun and this is.

>>536017979
>preordered the premium edition
>bought the controller before release
>bought the headset before release
>played for hundreds of hours
>didn't like it
>"you wanted it to fail from the start"
>"you didn't even play the game"
sure thing

>>536018313
What?

The drones are pretty neat

>>536018890
>>536018363
They look in no way like they belong in that universe. They look like they've been ported from some other game.

>>536018039
Nobody is telling you to obey or think in black and white. Good and bad speak to the design philosophy and production of a game and exist on a spectrum. Starfield's systems don't interact with each other like you'd expect from any game and in a lot of ways are behind industry standards, while being full price, so it's considered bad. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it but enjoying something doesn't make it "good" for anyone but you. For example, Tyranny and Dragon's Dogma are bad games that I enjoy.
If you want to get better at communicating this without sounding like a retard, try saying "I enjoy it" instead of "nothing can be bad" next time.

>>536018984
Wait until you've seen all the non-lore friendly mods I've installed in Skyrim

You shouldn't have to do this much work to argue why something is good. There's "a difference of opinion" and then theres literally desperation

>>536019160
You're contradicting yourself. You want me to to say that I enjoy it while admitting that it's bad but hey, nobody is telling me to obey or think in black and white!

>>536017364
Those are the last words of the post, yes.

>>536019490
Just say it's shit, you fucking bastard. Just say it. Say it right now, you fucking whore.

Pee pee poo poo

>>536019490
>If you want to get better at communicating this without sounding like a retard
>If you want to
>If
Nobody is forcing you to to admit anything, retard-kun. No sweat off my ass if you want to communicate your ideas in the most retarded way possible.

>>536019914
I unironically came.

Some people love Starfield, some hate it, but we can all agree that Matteo is a little cutie patootie

>>536020007
You're being closed-minded. Objective goodness/badness doesn't exist.

>>536020537
I'd have agreed with you until Starfield came out. Starfield is objectively bad.

>>536020537
I don't know which point you're responding to because it takes you 15 minutes and a cope reply to come up with a response. Look at the post you're replying to. Are you saying there's no objective way to evaluate the way a game's systems interact with each other? Because that's retarded.

>>536020613
That's just silly. You can make objective-oriented arguments, but good and bad are ultimately subjective.

>>536020890
That's just something weak minded people say when they can't win an argument. Its like resorting to God or religion. Making up an imaginary "supreme" argument that automatically wins. Starfield is bad and the world has spoken.

>>536020997
You atheists are so tiresome.

>>536021363
And Starfield is still bad.

>>536021363
They were born different, born innocent, born perfect, and not like you.

>>536021531
>>536021537
nope

>>536019160
>>536020537
>>536020781
Actually just read this a few times or until you can piece it together because we're looping.

>>536020997
56.7 percent of Steam reviews are positive, technically the majority say it's good.

Worst general for the worst game

>>536021717
nope

>>536021717
There are generals for multiple anime games and also Call of Duty, so you are incorrect

>>536020781
>Are you saying there's no objective way to evaluate the way a game's systems interact with each other
You can, but it being a good thing or a bad thing is ultimately subjective. People largely share the same metrics of what is good and bad, but that doesn't make objective.
>>536020997
There's no way of proving objective goodness or objective badness. It's referred to as Hume's law or the is–ought problem. Only the religious can make objective good and objective bad arguments, even though they can't prove them either.

>>536021690
Is that AI? AI is not all that reliable. Not to mention the political biases coded into most of them.

>>535843149
You know this is fake because it implies trainwiz will ever release his dyson sphere

>>536020007
How can I communicate something that I don't believe in.

>Nobody is forcing you
>Acshually my idea of bad and good is superior and you're a retard
Autism, immaturity or the two combined

>>536022070
>it being a good thing or a bad thing is ultimately subjective
That's not true. If you flip the experience progression of Starfield and make level 1 require the most experience, but unlock all of the best gear immediately, and scale enemies to be the hardest at level 1, that would be objectively bad RPG progression. If you disagree with that then you're saying there's no way to criticize anything other than "I personally disliked it." You can't say anything is "bad," not even a single game mechanic. That's retarded.
You need to read this again.
>>536021690

I'm going to be real with you here: I still enjoy Starfield and I am looking forward to new content next year.

>>536023219
"Good" and "bad" essentially just mean "desirable" and "undesirable," respectively. Desires are subject.

>>536023843
You're still talking about subjective enjoyment when I'm talking about game design (in multiple posts and and a dumbed-down ChatGPT summary in case you're a retard) so I'm going to assume you're trolling outside of /b/ and move on.

>>536024136
What you think "objective" means?

Comfy adventures with space blondes!

>>536025075
Give me a minute, I'll ask ChatGPT

Constellation, Gate to Stars, or Starfield Enhanced?

The Temple Guardian Miniboss mod got a new alternative download that replaces the guardian with a Starborn instead, in case any you were bothered by the original boss being ripped from Jedi Survivor.

>>535909601
>cant start an incest colony
Cant start any colony really.

>>536025127
Hey ChatGPT, what do I think "objective" means?

Bethesda retweeted that drone mod
Is it good?

>>536023464
>new content next year
shame that

>>536018984
How, this kind of shit already exists now, why can't a drone exist in the future?

>>536030568
It is in my opinion.

Sarah, what have you done?

>>536034645
Why is it so blurry?

>>536035329
Because I have a shitty PC

Up

>>536033639
No further details?

>>536033628
Starfield is maintaining a 1970s look not exactly a 1:1 mirror of our world

>>536018890
>>536018363
That's one long ass black screen

>>536053513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQY_L9dCFhA

>>536058815
There's potential. I'll wait for updates.