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Anonymous No.535853027 >>535853530 >>536018456 >>536075678
/coopg/ - Cooperative Games General
OW THE EDGE edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>>>535470952

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
PC Hotfix 6.6.5 - 9th of July
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-6-5-9th-of-july/110634
Feast of Grimnir - new event teaser trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQtJlHxZ6Lg

Darktide:
Hotfix #73 (1.8.5)
steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/668340807104725672

Killing Floor 3:
Hotfix 2 Changelog Notes
steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/497204020946927882

Abyssus:
Is out now - launch trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YeAjcv3GOg

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Space (formerly Jump Ship) - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Anonymous No.535853361 >>535853538
dodge this
Anonymous No.535853530 >>535853670
>>535853027 (OP)
What Skyrim character is that?
Anonymous No.535853538
>>535853361
Fuck off.
Anonymous No.535853572
Dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU5JbCiL2DM
Anonymous No.535853654 >>535854157 >>535854227
Step aside, darksissies. This is a Helljumpers thread.
https://youtu.be/2O_9hwQ8jLw
Anonymous No.535853670
>>535853530
the ELF
Anonymous No.535853747 >>535854810 >>535856524 >>535859267
2h Power Maul eventually
Anonymous No.535853812
Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
Anonymous No.535854157 >>535856059 >>535873895 >>535888450
>>535853654
Cool but did they make the game actually engaging on max difficulty yet?
Anonymous No.535854227
>>535853654
gayest trailer possible and disservice to the original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSLHcAyy90
Anonymous No.535854309 >>535856772
>>535843903
… They β€œleaked”? As in, like, from their clitty? What prompted them to do that in a public space?
Anonymous No.535854560
pretty weak attempts to find something wrong with something that is both cool and actual content
how's your hotfix? (lol)
Anonymous No.535854810 >>535856524
>>535853747
I don't remember being able to play as aliens or abhumans in Dark Heresy
How are you supposed to maintain Subtlety during an investigation with an ogryn and a kroot?
Anonymous No.535856059
>>535854157
never will. it's a casual dad game
Anonymous No.535856326
Darktide: the cuck times
Anonymous No.535856358 >>535857364
>play scout
>legend-tier engi doesn't make platform for high up resources
>play engi
>legend-tier scout doesn't zip up to platformed high up resources
sigh
it just can't be helped, can it?
Anonymous No.535856524 >>535859260
>>535853747
better size
>>535854810
That's from Wrath & Glory, which covers everything from hive scum paydays to rogue trader shenanigans or inquisitorial adventures
Anonymous No.535856772 >>535857190
>>535854309
nothing comes out of a clit, retard-san
Anonymous No.535857190
>>535856772
t. caged clittyxir
Anonymous No.535857364
>>535856358
>play gunner
>somehow mine more ceiling resources than the other three classes combined
It can indeed not be helped.
Anonymous No.535858383
it would be funny if there was a vremintide announcement at gamescom and nothing for darktide
Anonymous No.535859260
>>535856524
huh
well why didn't Owlcat just call it Wrath and Glory then
Anonymous No.535859267
>>535853747
Nah, Darktide has way too many weapons as it is. It'll only lead to even worse powercreep than we already have.
Fatshark should instead try around removing weapons instead, since most of them are useless on Havoc anyway.
Anonymous No.535859746 >>535860586
What's a Salvo?
Anonymous No.535860419 >>535860624 >>535862298
>retard goes down
>loud, angry, sub-human yelling in voice
Why do I have to share the internet with slavgroids? Why can't we just fucking exterminate them from the face of the earth already?
Anonymous No.535860586
>>535859746
A salvo begins when you start shooting and ends shortly after you stop shooting, generally when your gun's recoil fully stabilizes.
Anonymous No.535860624
>>535860419
God I hate slavgroids so much, they keept raping our women.
Anonymous No.535862298 >>535862431 >>535862586
>>535860419
I have literally never once experienced this. What the hell are you guys doing to get these people
Anonymous No.535862431 >>535864012
>>535862298
Playing on EU servers.
>people
lol!
Anonymous No.535862586
>>535862298
Playing Darktide.
>people
lol!
Anonymous No.535864012
>>535862431
>Playing on EU servers.
This, its the worst experience imaginable. These retards deserve to go extinct and replaced
Anonymous No.535865591 >>535866319 >>535866728 >>535866738
Is ogryn just doomed to be the most miserable class to play with retards?
>xboxhueg hitbox makes you an easy target for trappers
>rock doesn't actually kill them beyond heresy, excepting headshots
>this is assuming you're not blowing through rocks killing the 6 gorillion mutants that will stunlock you for several seconds if there's more than 1
>the two weapons with fast enough swap speed to just fucking delete them (grenadier gauntlet, achlys twin stubber) can barely hurt snipers
>if I don't deal with trappers, I eat shit
>if I don't deal with snipers, I'll be playing solo in the next 30 or so seconds
>single stubbers take approximately 3 business days to equip
>kickback doesn't even equip all that fast, but also takes approximately 3 business days to reload without taking talents on the weakest side of the tree
There really is just fucking nothing that can comfortably deal with both trappers and snipers. Shit, the best thing I can think of is rock + single stubber, because the rock at least swaps fast and then stuns the trapper.
I'm not missing anything, am I?
Anonymous No.535866319 >>535866848
>>535865591
>rock doesn't kill them beyond heresy
???
kickback, gg, mk5 stubber all deal with every threat just fine
Anonymous No.535866728 >>535869775
>>535865591
Return to Ripper mkV tradition
Anonymous No.535866738
>>535865591
Ogryn is literally the easiest class to quickPay with
Anonymous No.535866848 >>535868236
>>535866319
Rock bodyshot doesn't kill trappers, at least in aurics. Leaves them with a sliver of health, unless I need to have Payback Time active to hit the kill threshold or something. No Hurting Friends is virtually permanently active anyway.
>GG
Doesn't kill snipers through fences, and the little faggots like to hide behind those. In fact, it can't shoot through fences at all.
Anonymous No.535868236 >>535868723
>>535866848
Ok then use kickback or mk5. It's honestly rare that you ever need to deal with every single threat, in the hundreds of matches on ogryn I've played with grenade gauntlet or rumbler the times a sniper is out of range or behind a fence where you can't at least knock it over and move on, and also no one else has a weapon to deal with it is miniscule
Anonymous No.535868723 >>535869251
>>535868236
>and also no one else has a weapon to deal with it is minuscule
That isn't the problem.
The problem is that I must assume everyone else is retarded, and that I must deal with every threat.
I'm playing aurics for fun, not havoc. The novelty has worn off.
>It's honestly rare that you ever need to deal with every single threat
As a result, unfortunately, I basically do.
Anonymous No.535869251 >>535869775
>>535868723
Ok. Mk5 ripper.
Anonymous No.535869775 >>535870870 >>535870963 >>535873664 >>535938646
>>535869251
>>535866728
Something like this, yeah?
>missed the god roll by like 2%
Oh well.
Anonymous No.535870870
>>535869775
take Blaze Away
Inspiring Barrage is optional, but useful if you want easy toughness gain in a ranged fight
Anonymous No.535870963 >>535871151
>>535869775
Whatever it is to get 19 bullets, and then blaze away. Other perk is whatever you, toughness per shot is very strong though
Anonymous No.535871151
>>535870963
>Whatever it is to get 19 bullets
I believe it's in the ballpark of 67%. It might be 66%. But I'm not even sure whether that gives an extra shell in the reserve.
Anonymous No.535873664 >>535873860
>>535869775
Dumping ammo is a meme.
Collateral is the dump stat on rippers.
Anonymous No.535873860 >>535874036 >>535874218
>>535873664
Ammo dump triggers the blessings early.
Anonymous No.535873895 >>535876179
>>535854157
/hdg/ will say this is fine
Anonymous No.535874036
>>535873860
not just early, it triggers blaze away and inspiring barrage on every shot, most importantly on the burst
Anonymous No.535874218 >>535874725 >>535875934 >>535938182
>>535873860
And it's a meme still.
Getting 21 in the mag and 168 in the reserve is better and over all more damage. Take blaze away + can opener and you have an all purpose tool that can reliably kill all enemies in the game.
Also you only need inspiring barrage if you are bad at playing. It's the confident strike of ranged weapons.
Anonymous No.535874725
>>535874218
why the h*ck would you want single target armor pen on your ogryn ranged weapon
Anonymous No.535875510 >>536058008
>nobody snipes the snipers
>nobody guns down the gunners
do I take the heavy stubber pill and put my fate onto my own hands or persist with twin stubber?
Anonymous No.535875934 >>535876423 >>535938182
>>535874218
>can opener
actually try this in a game and you'll realize it's a meme. Not only is it impractical but your melee will also just do more DPS and regenerate your toughness while you bash the boss.
Now go ahead and tell me about how can opener is good against crushers so you can out yourself as a drooling retard.
Anonymous No.535876179
>>535873895
Because they all like men
Anonymous No.535876423
>>535875934
>your melee will also just do more DPS
only true if you're a metaslave
Anonymous No.535877965 >>535880728
>penance can only be completed in 'solo' session
>'solo' session requires 2 people in party to start
Anonymous No.535880728
>>535877965
You can post here and see if some anons are willing to help or ask in the hub chat. If you need the zealot timed mission and/or the vet accuracy penances, I recommend the train mission.
Anonymous No.535884931 >>535886572
Is there a good discord for rallying people for Havoc play? The discord I go to for Helldivers 2 is packed, and I can get a group together in less than 10 minutes. The Darktide one I'm in with Aquila the hun, Captain Kentucky, and so on has a shit load of people in it as well, but it seems like it takes forever to get someone to join a room.
Anonymous No.535884997
Darktide gets an update, nothing changes. Eternal Summer continues
Anonymous No.535885342
>update
just hotfix
Anonymous No.535886572 >>535887249
>>535884931
Official tends to get rooms filled quick.
Anonymous No.535887249
>>535886572
I believe that's the one I'm in.
Anonymous No.535888197 >>535888323 >>535888463 >>535888596 >>535888962 >>535889215 >>535893739 >>535908758 >>535913252 >>535913493 >>535915249 >>536032525
Darktide and coopg bros... our response?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvdY54M0x5A
Anonymous No.535888323
>>535888197
>zero gameplay trailer
sick dood
Anonymous No.535888450 >>535890071 >>535899023
>>535854157
I haven't played HD2 since shortly after launch, have they made the game significantly easier? The last time I played it was punishingly difficult because every gun shot nerf darts except for the railgun and then they nerfed the railgun.
Anonymous No.535888463 >>535888624
>>535888197
>Some Faggot's [game title]
>Marvel quips
>visual clutter
>no actual gameplay
Anonymous No.535888596 >>535914740
>>535888197
>saber interactive
Anonymous No.535888624 >>535888723 >>535888840 >>535902713
>>535888463
>Some Faggot's
fucking zoomer
Anonymous No.535888723 >>535913252
>>535888624
Yes anon, I know, however
>needing some big name in the title instead of existing on its own merit
that's a huge red flag
Anonymous No.535888840 >>535896075
>>535888624
with all due respect I doubt Mr. Carpenter could navigate a PS5 home screen let alone develop a video game
Anonymous No.535888962 >>535913252
>>535888197
This looks like an AI generated game, it doesn't look real
Anonymous No.535889215 >>535889302
>>535888197
Tide games have spoiled me, I need more than just shooting
Anonymous No.535889302 >>535889926
>>535889215
...like what???
Anonymous No.535889926 >>535890331 >>535902713 >>536065554
>>535889302
Melee! Beautiful gorey melee.
Anonymous No.535890071
>>535888450
Since last August, they've been significantly buffing all of the weapons but they also nerfed all of the enemies into the dirt, so yes the game has now officially been piss easy longer than it has been remotely difficult. Enemy spawn rates have been reduced, every enemy in general is MUCH easier to kill, and you need only see the webm in the post you replied to for an indication of how dangerous enemies are now.
Anonymous No.535890331 >>535890569
>>535889926
what gaem?
Anonymous No.535890569
>>535890331
soulcaliber 5 or 6
Anonymous No.535893739
>>535888197
I was about to make a joke but just learned John Carpenter did not die.
Anonymous No.535894175 >>535894313 >>535894339 >>535913252
John carpenter is the john darktide of carpenting

Let that sink in
Anonymous No.535894313
>>535894175
not even in the top 10 johns of all time
Anonymous No.535894339
>>535894175
sorry that's for the plumber
Anonymous No.535896006 >>535898142 >>535898405 >>535899065 >>535913252
>John carpenter's toxic commando
>BOOOOOOOOOO
>Warhammer's darktide
>yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah this let's goooo this is fire yoooooo
Anonymous No.535896075 >>535934363
>>535888840
>with all due respect I doubt Mr. Carpenter could navigate a PS5 home screen let alone develop a video game
You do know he's an avid gamer and has been involved in game development before, right? Not as a programmer or anything, but it's not his first rodeo.
Anonymous No.535897441 >>535897874 >>535898516
(picrel is just the quoted post)
>Hello there,
>first of all i know there might be topic that are similar, but iam a big fan of this game but iam so frustrated of havoc, iam a very good player, iam playing this game everyday but since i play havoc my fun just crashed to the bottom.
>For example the modifier Ritual is extreme bugged, sometimes its okay, but most of the time it spawn somewhere far far away, then spawns in 4 Bosses from 2 of them are twins, the normal ranged guys are extreme OP , they just two shot you. Its impossible to play as non meta build and even with meta build its insane difficult. I play auric maelstrom and doing well but havoc , its a whole other level of difficulty. Iam stuck between clearance level 19-25 cant get further because i derank most of the time, cause i loose all the rounds.
>Please FATSHARK do something with this mode, balance it, at level 40 you can make it brutal hard, i dont care but from 20-39 it shouldnt be that hard, its impossible. I just need my 4 penance done, its all i have left do to in the game.
>I stop playing the game and i dont buy any more skins, till this gets fixed. =/


>iam a very good player
Exceptionally good bait, or genuine hardstuck retard? The crippling ESL makes me think it's the former.
Anonymous No.535897874 >>535898516
>>535897441
just regular bait, not exceptionally good
Anonymous No.535898142
>>535896006
Toxic commando? Is that like the toxic avenger?
Anonymous No.535898405 >>535898614
>>535896006
I said this
Anonymous No.535898516
>>535897441
>>535897874
That's from the Fatshark forums, people don't bait there. Just a genuine hardstuck ESL shitter. Many such cases
Anonymous No.535898614 >>535913252
>>535898405
yoooooooooooooooooooooooo
Anonymous No.535899023 >>535903483 >>535950739 >>535955276
>>535888450
>I haven't played HD2 since shortly after launch, have they made the game significantly easier? The last time I played it was punishingly difficult because every gun shot nerf darts except for the railgun and then they nerfed the railgun.
They've reached the point where bots are contractually obligated to shoot NEAR you for dramatic effect instead of AT you. If they hit you, it's pretty much by accident. The chin guns on the AT-ATs are basically the only guns on the bot front that don't pull their punches.

The average pubbie doesn't notice this because 99% of them are wearing the shield diaper backpack, which increases your hitbox size enough that the "near" shots will hit the shield. It really gets their heart racing while they panic and hide until the shield recharges.
Anonymous No.535899065
>>535896006
Warhammer is good and john literally-who-penter is bad
Anonymous No.535901149
Darktide: the coping times
Anonymous No.535901873 >>535901984 >>535905025
Darktide versus when?
Anonymous No.535901984 >>535902567
>>535901873
>4 snipers
ggez
Anonymous No.535902567 >>535913252 >>535981024
>>535901984
*holds up shield*
my name is thunk but u can call me t3h ChUnGus oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol
Anonymous No.535902713
>>535888624
>butthurt that people aren't fanboyying some literal who gamedev
So John, how's the weather, are sales looking poor for your game game Toxic Commando?
>*screeching in the distance*
Sorry my bad Johnny Carpenter's Very Cool Toxic Commando, The Game^tm

>>535889926
Kek this looks fun to play
Anonymous No.535903136 >>535904280 >>535904621 >>535913252
I'm not tired of carrying you.
Anonymous No.535903483
>>535899023
consolefagpoorgroids really do ruin every game they touch with constant whining to devs and constant pandering by the devs
Anonymous No.535904280
>>535903136
Anonymous No.535904621
>>535903136
Had some fun helping out doing some low ranking havocs and basically did the same while coaching a couple of them. Felt great to be helpful.
Anonymous No.535905025 >>535913252
>>535901873
>You can have versus or a new game what do you want?
I'll take the new game each time. Fatshark once again wasting resources on a game mode barely anyone will play. They gotta stop doing that.
Anonymous No.535905783 >>535906270
>John Carpenter
>John darktide
My brother in christ I'm John I played killing floor 3 for more than 100 hours
Anonymous No.535906270 >>535913252
>>535905783
Hey, John Shit Eater
Anonymous No.535906378 >>535906746
news ?
Anonymous No.535906746
>>535906378
Anonymous No.535906763 >>535907102 >>535908128 >>535911548
Will Arbites always be limited to a single page on Commodore's Vestures?
Anonymous No.535907102
>>535906763
Probably not, but they'll need to pay more for overseers to crack the whip at the studio they've outsourced all of that to.
Anonymous No.535908128
>>535906763
We will know in one day
Anonymous No.535908758 >>535908832
>>535888197
i play darktide for the tide combat
unless its functionally a tide game, im not being pulled away
Anonymous No.535908832
>>535908758
Facts
Anonymous No.535911548
>>535906763
No, but this will take months or years like you know, the current awful system of rotations
Anonymous No.535913252
>>535888197
Carpenter really will just slap his name on any slop that gives him a paycheck lol
>>535888723
>>535888962
>>535894175
>>535896006
>>535898614
>>535902567
>>535903136
>>535905025
>>535906270
All true, factual and objective.
Anonymous No.535913493 >>535915821
>>535888197
Wow isn't John Carpenter's Toxic Commando a great game? Wow I just love watching this video of John Carpenter's Toxic Commando made by John Carpenter who also happens to be the developer, wow isn't John Carpenter amazing?!
Anonymous No.535913825 >>535915245
Does anyone care about the John Carpenter franchise? It's an ancient sci-fi series that had a terrible disney movie years ago.
Anonymous No.535914740
>>535888596
what’s wrong with that…?
Anonymous No.535915245
>>535913825
>Does anyone care about the John Carpenter franchise?
I liked The Thing a lot
Anonymous No.535915249 >>535915937 >>535920187 >>536032525
>>535888197
Same guys that made Space Marines 2, no?
Gross.
Anonymous No.535915821 >>535919654
>>535913493
You have ten (10) seconds to post your top 3 Carpenter John movies
Anonymous No.535915937 >>535920569 >>535922672 >>535925137 >>535926275
>>535915249
>/coopg/ suddenly hates space marines 2
what happened?
Anonymous No.535916835
waow
Anonymous No.535919654
>>535915821
They live
The thing
Vampires
Anonymous No.535920187
>>535915249
they’ve made better games before SM2 was just a wet fart
Anonymous No.535920569
>>535915937
>suddenly
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.535921219 >>535921720 >>535922236 >>535922321 >>535932634 >>536019659 >>536218878
How do I do damage on vet?
I sweat hard as hell with the knife and top the charts in crits and weakspot hits, but the retards running maces beat me out by 100-200 thousand damage every time
Am I just doomed to be the guardian angel taking out gunners and ranged elites?
Throwing all of my shredders when things get dicey for them?
Anonymous No.535921720 >>536019237
>>535921219
Power Sword.
Anonymous No.535922236
>>535921219
Power sword
Bolter
Grenades
Anonymous No.535922321
>>535921219
>How do I do damage on vet?
Bolter.
Anonymous No.535922672
>>535915937
butthurt and cope
Anonymous No.535925137
>>535915937
Coopg is used to good melee and gunplay and SM 2 has neither
Anonymous No.535926275 >>535926602
>>535915937
SM2 just isn't that good honestly.
If SM2 had Darktide's combat system it would genuinely be one of the 40k games to date.
Anonymous No.535926602
>>535926275
Hell, if it had even the first games combat system it would have been one of the better ones
Anonymous No.535929126 >>535929247 >>535974859
Anonymous No.535929247 >>535929908
>>535929126
You're telling me a cat fried these pancakes
Anonymous No.535929908 >>535974859
>>535929247
she sure did
Anonymous No.535932634 >>535932939
>>535921219
>top the charts in crits and weakspot hits
Darktide has no charts
Anonymous No.535932939 >>535933068
>>535932634
Why are you pretending like you don't know about mods?
Anonymous No.535933068 >>535933489
>>535932939
>muh mods
Anonymous No.535933489
>>535933068
Answer the question, bitch
Anonymous No.535934363 >>535936563
>>535896075
NTA but every time I've heard him talk about vidya he only talks about AAA slop
Anonymous No.535936563 >>535974853
>>535934363
This is a slop general.
Anonymous No.535937571 >>535938083 >>535938108 >>535977638 >>536064000
>check useless asshole tardbitrator's build
>it's Stance
>some complete moron is raving on about muh pay to win OP build win every havoc
>it's Stance
>that one retard who is constantly falling behind on the easiest class to keep up with
>he's using Stance
Bonus round
>check actually good player's build
>of course it's fucking BTL
>havoc 40?
>BTL or Nuncio
>the ability I've been using since release?
>BTL
I swear, putting on Stance is equivalent to voluntarily wearing a dunce cap. I've seen 2, maybe 3 useful Stance arbitrators, in aurics, and that was exclusively because they did a fuckload of ranged damage by having to reload less, which becomes completely non-viable in havoc due to ammo constraints.
>inb4 muh survivability
You have a dodge button, fuckface. Learn to use it.
Anonymous No.535938083 >>535938324 >>535980005
>>535937571
You're right but the Stance is OP and should be removed.
The only reason why you are even seeing those retard shitters in your games is purely because Arbites as a class is currently the most OP power crept shit in the game, and then the cherry on top the shitters are using the "Ignore everything that can kill you" ability.
Anonymous No.535938108 >>535938195
>>535937571
Taking a stance on the arbite's abilities
Anonymous No.535938182 >>535938397
>>535874218
>>535875934
It doesn't matter. The pros and cons are tiny.

19 ammo blaze away may help hit a 1burst breakpoint for specific enemies (???), but this depends on the rest of your build. It certainly doesn't do anything vs Trappers and Snipers, you can kill those in one burst at 80% ammo. So if your main worry is trappers and snipers then dumping ammo for blaze away does nothing. If you're aware of some breakpoint then by all means keep running 19 ammo. It only costs like -1 magazine in total. Personally I don't notice any difference during gameplay.

Most ogryn weapons can handle crushers. Even the knife works now. CanOpener makes it a little bit faster. From my testing CanOpener brings it down from 10 hits to 7 hits. Which is something... but not insane crazy wow. Again this is build dependent.
Best use case for CanOpener is stab-shooting Crushers. This can nuke them down in 3 bursts if it's important to kill the crusher right NOW. (From roughly 70 shots to 9). Which is a nice ability to have. But if you don't utilize it during gameplay then CanOpener is also useless.

The key feature of the ripper v is the min pellet count, and we get that by default. Everything else is flavor and preference.
Anonymous No.535938195
>>535938108
kek
Anonymous No.535938324 >>535938618 >>535991543
>>535938083
>You're right but the Stance is OP and should be removed.
Stance is a crutch for retarded shitters who never learned the combat system and can't play the game. It is functionally useless to someone who actually knows what they're doing. It's not OP by virtue of doing nothing useful other than making you better at shooting, which is still worse than just bashing skulls in.
Claiming it's OP is indirectly admitting that you, too, are too retarded to dodge and slide and should go back to malice where you fucking belong.
Anonymous No.535938397 >>535938646
>>535938182
I use my ripper with can opener and blaze away to mulch hordes.
And I run can opener for debuffing crushers and monstrosities.

It works just fine, and if I ever need toughness regen I just hit a couple of heavies or I just brace my weapon ripper gun.
Anonymous No.535938618 >>535938747
>>535938324
>broo
>this ability that just lets you ignore all of the gameplay and makes you practically unkillable which then lets retards punch above their weight class isn't OP
It is OP, but you do not need it better you are at the game, I agree.
>Stance is a crutch for retarded shitters who never learned the combat system and can't play the game.
This is the main reason why it needs to be removed or heavily nerfed.
If an ability lets retards ignore the entire game, its mechanics, and ignore actually getting better at the game, then it is not good or a well designed ability.
Anonymous No.535938646 >>535939515
>>535938397
that's totally fine. And if you play around with 80% ammo vs 66% ammo i doubt you'll notice much difference. In my experience the best use case for dumping ammo is here >>535869775 for the flechette and crit combo. Which is also valid.
Anonymous No.535938743
i will now start using castigator's stance
thank you for bringing it to my attention
Anonymous No.535938747 >>535938947 >>535939786
>>535938618
The problem with how "OP" it is, is that it lasts a limited amount of time, followed by that retard instantly eating shit because he didn't watch the timer while standing under gunner fire, instantly rendering it useless. Yes, it technically has a different skill set (awareness vs learning game mechanics), but you would be disingenuous to claim that the kind of retard that uses it also somehow has any semblance of awareness.
Every time you see some tardbitrator mysteriously drop from 100 to 0 for unexplainable reasons, it's because his Stance just ran out.
Anonymous No.535938947 >>535939097 >>535939501
>>535938747
>you would be disingenuous to claim that the kind of retard that uses it also somehow has any semblance of awareness
this is a disingenuous statement
Anonymous No.535938971 >>535974853
the shitter crutch poster is back to have fake arguments to fill his empty life
didn't learn any new words from last time
Anonymous No.535939097 >>535939385 >>535939960
>>535938947
Then explain to me why I'm the only one ever
>doing the objective
>helping trapped retards
>reviving someone
>remembering and using stimms
>picking up ammo not directly in view
I'd consider having object permanence as a form of awareness.
Anonymous No.535939385 >>535939501
>>535939097
>me unga
>team bunga
welcome to darktide
everyone who plays this silly game for a while will have this experience on a regular basis
Anonymous No.535939501 >>535940225
>>535938947
>ur wrong
>>535939385
>ur right
Well? Which one is it, faggot?
Anonymous No.535939515 >>535940639
>>535938646
You should only be running flechette + cavalcade if you are running a gunlugger build. The main reason being so you can apply both bleed and burn onto the boss and delete its health. That's largely the only use case for the Bleed Rippers.
Otherwise, aka any other build, it's not that good since ogryn's crit chance innately is just shit.
Then you should just be running blaze away + can opener or blaze away + inspiring barrage.
Anonymous No.535939786 >>535993001 >>535996559
>>535938747
Anon, only reason why any of the shitters have managed to even crawl up to auric is purely because they are using castigator stance which allows them to completely ignore the game.
If castigator stance didn't exist, they wouldn't even be there.

Also just because retards keep dying while using castigator stance doesn't mean that the ability isn't OP.
For a good example, retards keep dying even with ogryn now even if he was buffed high heaven with the rework, that still doesn't mean ogryn isn't OP.
It just means that retards are going to be retards and there's nothing you can do about it.
Anonymous No.535939960
>>535939097
Because you're playing with retarded team mates.
It has nothing to do with their abilities.
Anonymous No.535940225
>>535939501
one statement is about castigators stance, the other is a general feeling of shit teammates. Are you retarded? am I getting baited?
Anonymous No.535940639
>>535939515
There is no "should". That's my entire point. Run whatever blessings you enjoy. Flechette works for non-looger builds as well.
Anonymous No.535943057 >>535974997
>rolling steel
>down to 3 minutes by the time we even get to the fucking power cells
Anonymous No.535944046 >>535946010
Ogryn isn't OP...
IF the arbites is the new standard
Anonymous No.535946010
>>535944046
Ogryn is still miserable to play with retards because there is always going to be something you struggle to deal with, unlike every other class in the game. And obviously your retards never, ever, ever will fill whatever niche you're not good at.
Anonymous No.535950739
>>535899023
maybe they wanted the star wars audience so they gave the enemies stormtrooper aim
Anonymous No.535952912 >>535953537 >>535974997
>mfw admech class for Darktide soon
Anonymous No.535953537 >>535974997
>>535952912
>Adeptus Melonicus
>Adeptus Nullus Pater
>Adeptus Frixum Pullum
Anonymous No.535955276 >>535967695
>>535899023
>They've reached the point where bots are contractually obligated to shoot NEAR you for dramatic effect instead of AT you.
Why though? What's the point? To intentionally make the game easier?
Is it like this in the highest difficulties as well?
Anonymous No.535959639 >>535974994
my beloved(?)
Anonymous No.535967695
>>535955276
yes, this
Anonymous No.535968938 >>535969160 >>535972752 >>535975142
Your yearly rat lore, milord.
https://www.vermintide.com/news/franz-lohners-chronicle-unexpected-guests
Anonymous No.535969160
>>535968938
>cousin okri is actually real and he was the voice in the trailer
Holy shit, 10 years of Bardin being a schizophrenic retard, namedropping Okri every 10 voicelines, and now we finally get him in the flesh.
Anonymous No.535970341
Maybe Warpick will finally get a buff with the dwarf event
Anonymous No.535970549 >>535970676
>gun: 200 dmg per shot
>gun mark II: 500 dmg per shot but otherwise identical stats according to the game
why would i ever use the first one?
Anonymous No.535970676 >>535972002
>>535970549
what gun are you talking about
Anonymous No.535971689
They definitely broke something with the most recent patch because I am getting a lot of crashes. I just crashed and had to reconnect 3 times in a single mission when I have probably crashed less than 3 times in the last 100 hours.
Anonymous No.535972002 >>535973775
>>535970676
most of them. there are some meaningful variants but for example i dont understand why you would pick ripper gun mk V over mk II or mk VIc over mk XIV when using recon lasgun
Anonymous No.535972752 >>535975317 >>535975693
>>535968938
>Kerillian blamed Bardin, Bardin blamed Kruber, and Kruber just gave me that long, patient look I’ve been seeing a lot lately, and ushered me back downstairs with a stiff drink and a pat on the back.
not gonna lie, this made me chuckle a bit. Man, I really hope we do get a Vermintide 3 so I can revisit these goofy niggers without feeling like I'm taking a step backwards from Darktide in terms of mechanics.
Anonymous No.535973775 >>535974941
>>535972002
Bigger number isn't always better. Fatshark isn't too clear about this shit, guns have a ton of hidden modifiers.
Ripper Gun Mk2 has the highest total damage potential, but the lowest DPS due to a very low fire rate, and the widest pellet spread.
Ripper Gun Mk5 has the highest fire rate, highest DPS and the highest minimum pellet count, making it the most effective at long distances, but also possesses the most exaggerated recoil in the game.
Ripper Gun Mk6 has the highest Finesse bonus, meaning the most Critical and Weakspot damage of all the other marks. It also has the lowest recoil and lowest bloom. This is the best Ripper Gun if you go for single-target.
Anonymous No.535974853
>>535936563
But enough about /hdg/
>>535938971
Nail hit on the head
Anonymous No.535974859
>>535929126
Is Dancy in the guard???
>>535929908
Cute…
Anonymous No.535974941
>>535973775
I wish they buff the mk2 by making the pellet spread less insane on it.
Also more range would be nice.
Anonymous No.535974994 >>535976319
>>535959639
Sex with cat empress
Anonymous No.535974997
>>535943057
skill issue
>>535952912
>>535953537
based
Anonymous No.535975142 >>535976197
>>535968938
Didn’t read. Someone summarize.
Anonymous No.535975317 >>535995586
>>535972752
>I'm taking a step backwards from Darktide in terms of mechanics
Anonymous No.535975693 >>535975935
>>535972752
VT2 is really missing push attacks and special attacks for all weapons. I still give it points for having so many more weapons than Darktide does. How the fuck do we still have 0 dual-wielding? And zero polearms
Anonymous No.535975935 >>535995586
>>535975693
>VT2 is really missing push attacks and special attacks for all weapons.
Anonymous No.535976197 >>535991280
>>535975142
cousin okri shows up and gets mad that bardin is calling everyone drengbarazi so he's here in person to see us do his challenges
Anonymous No.535976319 >>536030118
>>535974994
Anonymous No.535977638
>>535937571
stance is just boring. no cool effects or animations, just temp god mode. nuncio has felt anemic since release. so BTL is the patrician's choice.
Anonymous No.535977910
>wanting to play specific missions has been effectively killed since arbites release
if i dont already have teammates by the loading screen then the lobby will remain empty. but if i do quickplay, there's a 90% chance its the snoozefest story missions, wtf.
Anonymous No.535978456 >>535979250 >>535981456 >>535981578
Psyker anons, how often do you hardcast brain burst? I take it, but mostly for the % chance trigger talent.

It feels rare that I'm in a position where I have a viable target, nothing threatening happening right next to me, and 2.5 seconds of free time to stand still and charge up the ability.

Should I be making more effort to use it more?
Anonymous No.535979250
>>535978456
either
>I know there is trapper around the corner so I charge up burst
or
>nobody is killing that sniper, better burst
Anonymous No.535980005
>>535938083
Anyone else hear that? Some sort of whining sound?
Anonymous No.535980242 >>535980735
I'll probably buy deadzone: rogue, wish me good luck
Anonymous No.535980735 >>535980908
>>535980242
I downloaded it for FREE...
Anonymous No.535980908 >>535981375
>>535980735
>coop game
>download for free
really made me think...
Anonymous No.535981024
>>535902567
>kills your retard teammates who dont stand behind shield
what now chungy?
Anonymous No.535981375 >>535982136
>>535980908
get your friends to download it... for free...
Anonymous No.535981456
>>535978456
far away ranged elites, thats pretty much it. sometimes i throw on an oldschool BB build with the fast charge node and soul siphon
Anonymous No.535981578
>>535978456
a few times a match to kill a special or a gunner. Snippers and especially bombers are what I use it on most. I snap the target with the left click hen dodge behind cover. Sometimes there's like 3 chaff on me in which case i just dodge with good timing to make up for the negative dodges i probably have.
Anonymous No.535982136
>>535981375
>your friends
????
Anonymous No.535986360
So questions boys, it's been awhile since I did an event. Would anyone be down to do some DRG CBT later on?
Anonymous No.535987815 >>536001616
Brosouf, kneel before the new king of coopg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8InwtpNSOiA
Anonymous No.535987947 >>535989438 >>535991280 >>536030357
>finish campaign
>"DO YOU WANT TO RESET ALL PROGRESS AND REDO THE CAMPAIGN?"
Anonymous No.535989438
>>535987947
do you???
Anonymous No.535990674 >>535990851
Do you only discuss shooters ITT?
Anonymous No.535990851 >>535991245
>>535990674
nah, just darky untidies being salty their game is in the gutters
Anonymous No.535990930
Darktide should've been about Adeptus Astartes facing various xenos threats.
Anonymous No.535991245
>>535990851
Obsessed jeetoid
Anonymous No.535991280
>>535976197
Is that a good thing?
>>535987947
Click yes cuck
Anonymous No.535991543
>>535938324
>should go back to malice where you fucking belong
I mean really, if you don't know the basic mechanics you should actually go to Sefoni and re-do the combat tutorials. Including the optional ones that most players probably skipped when they started playing.
Anonymous No.535992764 >>536219287
ARE YOU RETARDED?
Anonymous No.535993001
>>535939786
Nerftrannies are so irrational. Shitters have been in your snorics since forever, Arbitrator didn't change that.
Anonymous No.535994624 >>535995775 >>536007707
My dream 40k game is a starwars battlefront esque squad shooter with every faction as a playable character, multiple classes each with combat abilities and weapon loadouts.
This game HAS to be made at some point.
Anonymous No.535995586 >>535998138 >>536003108
>>535975317
I'm right about that, though perhaps I phrased it poorly; the movement system is the most obvious example, but ratclick also has a much more simplistic damage system that you can really notice when you switch between it and shopclick. Both of these things (movement and armor/weakspot systems) are very clearly a progression of more basic systems present in the older tide games, though there are aspects of ratclick that I feel fatshark regressed on in shopclick (i.e. character builds.
>>535975935
It's been a hot minute since I last experimented with ratclick's weapons but I'm 99% sure all of the melee weapons have push attacks. Plenty of weapons would benefit from special attacks, though; some sort of armor breaking function would make the heavy mace actually worth using in some capacity, for example.
Anonymous No.535995775 >>535996669 >>535996918
>>535994624
there was a fan game in similar vein but it was canned even before Gay's Wokeshop decided to copyright strike everything under the sun, don't remember the name
also MMO, Eternal Crusade another canned project
Anonymous No.535996559 >>535997301
>>535939786
It's not just Castigator's Stance; it's also the dog flat-out invalidating two out of the three disablers present in the game. I remain fully convinced that Fatshark's thought process when designing Arby was something along the lines of:
>how can we get better player retention with this class?
>well, the biggest demographic in vidya by far is "casuals" so how can we grab that group?
>casuals don't like to think of themselves as casuals, so if we give them a padded jacket-tier level of retard-proofing, they'll be able to punch above their weight and feel more skilled
>this will encourage them to stick around longer
And it worked extremely well in pulling players for all of a week, before fatshark decided to release a game-breaking hotfix and then take their annual swedecation immediately afterwards.
Anonymous No.535996669
>>535995775
i think this type of game can be made now, it definitely would have been held back technologically years ago. SM2 showcased large set pieces and enemies on screen so it can work, but like every game the quality would be largely dependent on who's making it so it'd probably have a cash slop shop
Anonymous No.535996918
>>535995775
I miss Eternal Crusade. It turned into a trainwreck but damn I did like krumpin gitz.
Anonymous No.535997110 >>535997484 >>535998070
I swear when I was playing Crash Course with friends, The helicopter pilot was one of the common infected.
Anonymous No.535997301
>>535996559 (me)
and also I am trans
Anonymous No.535997484
>>535997110
Not possible. His corpse is visible at the start of the mission... unless... your game is... HAUNTED????!!!!
Anonymous No.535998070
>>535997110
Yeah, he turns and Zoey shoots him which sets up the campaign.
Anonymous No.535998138 >>535998302 >>535998702
>>535995586
>worth using
every single weapon in vermintide 2 is viable up until c3dwons
Anonymous No.535998302
>>535998138
Well, sure, but that doesn't mean some aren't lacking compared with others.
Anonymous No.535998702 >>535998946
>>535998138
>barely anyone plays cataclysm at all
>if they do it's with twitch integration (feels like a left 4 dead chinese modded server)
>no one plays weaves
>no servers in modded realm
grim
Anonymous No.535998946
>>535998702
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789506353
never ever
Anonymous No.535999223 >>536004783 >>536006080 >>536006619 >>536006892 >>536007483
Vermintide 2's Feast of Gromnir event announcement has 2.2k likes on Steam (deader game)
Darktide's Battle for Tertium major update announcement has 1.6k
The Arbites announcement has 1.2k
what causes this
Anonymous No.536001275
So I playe dead zone: Rogue for an hour... it's okay.
Runs are too fucking long imo
Anonymous No.536001616
>>535987815
kino drops in 2 weeks...
Anonymous No.536003108 >>536012059
>>535995586
>some sort of armor breaking function would make the heavy mace actually worth using in some capacity, for example
if you're talking about the 2h hammer, all of them already have armor piercing attacks
Anonymous No.536004115
JOHN CARPENTER BROS WE KEEP WINNING LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qV4mpc8QiA
Anonymous No.536004783
>>535999223
I never press "like" on anything
Anonymous No.536005129 >>536006892
Darkturd
Anonymous No.536006080
>>535999223
you can like things on steam?
Anonymous No.536006619
>>535999223
Event content > Paypig class
Anonymous No.536006892
>>535999223
>on Steam
Lmao. What about other platforms?
>>536005129
You look like that.
Anonymous No.536007483
>>535999223
>Vermintide: the end times
>Darktide: the cuck times
Gee, I wonder
Anonymous No.536007551 >>536007997
anything like rimworld (top down) but where each player control a single unit instead of managing a colony?
Anonymous No.536007707
>>535994624
This can happen but only if they get a triple A company to do it. I don’t trust any of them is the issue. Anyone else is simply not going to do it Justice due to lack of resources. That said, if there was a time when it’s most possible, it’s definitely now.
Anonymous No.536007997
>>536007551
Red Solstice 2, maybe
Anonymous No.536012059 >>536014798
>>536003108
I was talking about Sienna's mace. It's technically "armour piercing" as per its description, but in practice it's very very poor in fulfilling that role or in fulfilling ANY role, really. Giving it a special that, I don't know, softens the armor of any hit enemies would work wonders for its viability, and would be thematically appropriate considering it already gives flame ticks on heavy attacks. Better than just tacking on increased armor pen, at least.
Anonymous No.536013727 >>536013920
>check out havoc lobbies in DT
>5x H40 with 1-2 guy
>single lobby with H22, no ogryn
>attempt to join it, all my gear is in order, declined
>okay
>join random H40, sit there for 20 minutes nothing happens
seems to me the system incentivizes people with zero experience in Havoc to just hit their head against the wall
Anonymous No.536013920 >>536014573
>>536013727
>host your own havoc lobby
>the experience is completely linear and organic
>if you're good, you rank up
>if you're bad, you get stuck or rank down
It's only complicated to autistic idiots who refuse to host
Anonymous No.536014552 >>536014714 >>536014824
Ranald's joy! TWO reds!
it was a soldier's vault too and i didn't have either of these as reds yet
Anonymous No.536014573
>>536013920
the console said I need another warm body to host my own, I guess I missed something
and on that note, how do you grind out 200 missions if you host them?
Anonymous No.536014714
>>536014552
Keep it darktide related or keep it to yourself
Anonymous No.536014798 >>536015306 >>536015679
>>536012059
>but in practice it's very very poor in fulfilling that role or in fulfilling ANY role
The mace is Sienna's best default weapon outside of flamesword memes. It's a strong switch hitter that can do everything decently well. it's just overshadowed by Flaming Flail's explosive power.
Anonymous No.536014824
>>536014552
nice
Anonymous No.536015306
>>536014798
>best
never liked the mace, it has a weird arc with the swings
I recall dagger being really fun though with heavies
Anonymous No.536015679
>>536014798
>The mace is Sienna's best default weapon outside of flamesword memes
The game has been out for 7.5 years; there is absolutely no reason to single out base game weapons lmao. And even if you DID want to do that for some legitimate reason, the mace still falls behind the other weapons. It has been the least-used Sienna melee since launch and that has never changed. It can't "do everything decently well," it's mediocre to outright bad at everything. It's slow, doesn't deal a significant amount of damage per swing, has clunky attack chains, and has low stamina to boot iirc. Just an all-around poor weapon.
Anonymous No.536018456 >>536018653 >>536019457 >>536019794 >>536019936 >>536023086 >>536028836 >>536033981 >>536062346 >>536062884 >>536243270
>>535853027 (OP)
FATSHART SISSIES IS IT OVER
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1869500/DAIMON_BLADES/

IS THIS THE DARKSHITE KILLER?!?!?!
Anonymous No.536018653
>>536018456
finally a game to kill Vermintide 2
wishlisted
Anonymous No.536019237
>>535921720
he's so cool
Anonymous No.536019457
>>536018456
I wonder if frogs will deliver any post launch content at all this time
Anonymous No.536019659
>>535921219
>how do damage on Vet
Not by using your melee and trying to play him like a Zealot. Use a gun with good ammo economy like the Helbore, or just the Plasma Gun or Bolter, and you will match Arbitrators' damage numbers. If you want high impact melee gameplay, play literally anyone else.
Anonymous No.536019794
>>536018456
>roguelite
>no rats
nah
you would think that roguelites are trying to bank on replay value but their replay value is shit because you get bored with it
they are too arcadey and most runs you're just fishing for an op build
vermintide has good core gameplay which is challenging and which improves your skill over time, giving you much more satisfaction for winning
Anonymous No.536019936 >>536020090
>>536018456
There have been a lot of "darktide killers" and darktide is still alive
Funny how that works
Anonymous No.536020090 >>536020449
>>536019936
>Darktide killed Darktide
all hail Darktide, the Darktide Killer
Anonymous No.536020449 >>536020632 >>536021615
>>536020090
No currently existing game can compete with darktide. The closest is vermintide
Anonymous No.536020632 >>536021273
>>536020449
yeah darktide sits in second place
Anonymous No.536020920 >>536021451 >>536029102
what's up with these emojis under the DRG post?
Anonymous No.536021273 >>536022414
>>536020632
Vermintide is superfluous
Anonymous No.536021451
>>536020920
Looks like it was invaded by a bunch of islamo-trannies
Anonymous No.536021615 >>536022004 >>536022410
>>536020449
in what way?
KF2 has comparable player numbers
Payday 2 and Helldongers 2 havd far bigger playerbases
>gameplay
subjective, DT's gunplay is not great and melee was better in VT2
Anonymous No.536022004 >>536025818
>>536021615
KF and helldivers have a different playerbase than don't conflict with the darktide playerbase
>subjective
Objective. If vermintide is good then darktide is great because it's just a straight upgrade
Anonymous No.536022410 >>536023294 >>536024328
>>536021615
how can you compare payday 2, it's completely botted
Anonymous No.536022414
>>536021273
you are
Anonymous No.536023086 >>536023570 >>536024497 >>536062346 >>536075319
>>536018456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8InwtpNSOiA

>Demon Abyssus
wooooh
Anonymous No.536023294 >>536027972
>>536022410
indeed, DT doesn't even have functioning bots
Anonymous No.536023570 >>536029102
>>536023086
I hate the demon souls aesthetic
Anonymous No.536024328 >>536029314
>>536022410
Both KF2 and PD2 are like 95% bots. Anon is just being disingenuous or is uninformed bringing up player counts of those games at all.
Anonymous No.536024497
>>536023086
Looks kinda neat I guess, but the floatiness of the sword animations has me a little worried. Even the trailer looks janky in a way I'm not sure I like.
I'm obviously not getting my hopes up because streumon is a dumbass studio, but I guess it at least has potential to be fun while having a reasonable pricetag. Tentatively hopeful for EYE-tier jank (in a good way).
Anonymous No.536025818 >>536026128
>>536022004
>Objective. If vermintide is good then darktide is great because it's just a straight upgrade
what's objective is that you're delusional
Anonymous No.536026128
>>536025818
I'm right and you're wrong
Anonymous No.536027972
>>536023294
>use solo mod
>use mod to change bots to your other characters like vermintide
>3 geared and talented ogryn bots
>Tough as hell, completely devoted to protecting you, still dumb as bricks
>everything goes smoothly thanks to true ogryn bodyguard experience.
They're just too far above the average scrub, they can never give them to us
Anonymous No.536028024 >>536028197 >>536029313
hello tiders, what kind of melee should I run on arbitraor if im using a revolver + stance primarily for sniping specials? im not sure if I should use the arbites/normal/shield maul or tac axe
Anonymous No.536028197 >>536028657
>>536028024
It's arbitrator you can use anything you want. Hell enjoy the chainsword for once.
Anonymous No.536028657
>>536028197
true but I just dumped all of my resources into the revolver and im broke, im sure mostly any melee will work fine on auric, just wanted to see the general consensus on what was considered the best if anything
Anonymous No.536028836 >>536029256
>>536018456
I don’t feel like clicking this someone tell me if it’s good or not
Anonymous No.536029102 >>536034772
>>536020920
Trannies do that in any public server. There’s no reason for it they just want to signal something
>>536023570
Why what’s wrong with it
Anonymous No.536029256 >>536147636
>>536028836
no!
Anonymous No.536029313
>>536028024
The Arbites Shock Maul is highly considered to be as strong as the Dueling Sword. Use High Voltage and Relentless Strikes for blessings. Perks can be Carapace, Unyielding and/or Maniac.
Anonymous No.536029314
>>536024328
at least 3 percent of that remaining 5 is thirdies too
Anonymous No.536029636 >>536030937 >>536030956 >>536031263 >>536033574 >>536036049 >>536059146
Realistically, what do (you) do in this situation?
Anonymous No.536030118
>>535976319
I look like this.
Anonymous No.536030357 >>536032941
>>535987947
Is that… a navel? Seals have bellybuttons?
Anonymous No.536030937
>>536029636
Mow them all down with my ogryn
Anonymous No.536030956
>>536029636
THE POWER
OF FAITH
Anonymous No.536031263 >>536032980
>>536029636
Anonymous No.536031904 >>536033083
New special type: plague bearers
They do a fart cloud shout that debuffs you with brown toughness. It will drop your toughness to zero and won't replenish until the duration is over
Anonymous No.536032069 >>536032980
>tfw already 4 hours into dead zone rogue
ok this is fun but it's kinda dead and I have no friends
Anonymous No.536032094 >>536032245
New special idea: Psyker. Brainbursts you, instakilling you
Anonymous No.536032245
>>536032094
>unless you are an ogryn or zealot
>can accidentally target dogs
Anonymous No.536032525 >>536032810
>>535888197
>>535915249
i played the closed beta back in last october for a good ~12 hours, mostly it felt like killing floor 2 with a better soundtrack and large scale maps with vehicles and objectives, feel free to ask anything
Anonymous No.536032810 >>536033285
>>536032525
so is it fun?
Anonymous No.536032941 >>536147906
>>536030357
They're mammals, anon. All mammals have belly buttons except for monotremes like platypuses
Anonymous No.536032980 >>536099571
>>536031263
What does this mean
>>536032069
Me neither haha
Anonymous No.536033083 >>536034089
>>536031904
>drop your toughness to zero and won't replenish until the duration is over
shopclickers are not prepared for ratclick-style health
Anonymous No.536033285 >>536033363
>>536032810
from the limited time i played it was quite fun, there were only 2 full-length missions at that time though, and most of the voice lines were some goofy TTS. I could see myself getting a ~100 hours of fun out of it with a friend or two, funplay was good and vehicle handling was good, wasn't buggy at all when i tried it. Had decent building mechanics and fortification purchases, something most co op games seem to lack. Weapon and attachment selection were pretty barebones but again, it was closed beta. I probably wouldn't pay more than ~40€ of it as it was but i imagine there'll be at least 10 missions in the final game. The cinematics were also really high quality, it felt like a good old-fashioned horde shooter with some modern elements
Anonymous No.536033363
>>536033285
>funplay
gunplay*
Anonymous No.536033574
>>536029636
listen, because that's what no one else did
Anonymous No.536033646
Remember to take xbox cadets on squigger super helldives, just tell them its like LASO
Anonymous No.536033981
>>536018456
>what if VT2 but just Chaos Wastes
We'll see how it pans out.
Anonymous No.536034089
>>536033083
Raclickers get temp health. This would have no temp health or toughness
Anonymous No.536034371
verminiggers
Anonymous No.536034772
>>536029102
Giant oversized weapons and armor, it's just not my thing.
Space Marines are stupid, too
Anonymous No.536035527 >>536036150
>1500 credits for more Light & Medium pen weaponry overlap : Halo edition
Anonymous No.536036049
>>536029636
And you wield no combat prowess and are simply your ordinary self? Oh yeah you're screwed mate, run!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.536036150
>>536035527
ugly tranny gif
Anonymous No.536036896 >>536036972 >>536037693 >>536044852
How do I not get hit in Vermintide 2? I am facing a horde, I see a Stormvermin swing an overhead, so I dodge to the side, but at the same time a second Stormvermin just happens to be tracking me, and he hits me just as I finish dodging. I genuinely don't know what to do unless I use a stagger-focused class or weapon.
Anonymous No.536036972 >>536037693
>>536036896
Blocking, dodging, positioning, staggering
Anonymous No.536037693
>>536036896
All of what >>536036972 says, but also remember to push enemies. The way staggers work in ratclick, you can shove an enemy more than once to knock them off balance (particularly useful for shield stormvermin, as two consecutive shoves will stun them, leaving them open for attacks). Combat in ratclick is a lot slower than it is in shopclick, but it's also a lot more methodical. Avoid situations where you're face-to-face with two attacking SV at once if you can; remember you can shove them and dodge backwards to give yourself a little breathing room.
Anonymous No.536044149
Sigmar... I have failed you...
Anonymous No.536044852
>>536036896
Dodge backwards and you can avoid like 90% of all damage in VT2
Anonymous No.536045673 >>536045975
>dead thread
>dead game
it's over
Anonymous No.536045975
>>536045673
*dead games
Anonymous No.536046084 >>536050418
eyyyy whatsamatta I'm mastabatin heaaa see
Anonymous No.536046354
Good morning saahs
Anonymous No.536050418
>>536046084
I say this and just finished doing this
Anonymous No.536051364 >>536057289
Where the fuck are the devs? I want new Arbites cosmetics and new shit to kill
Anonymous No.536052027
Oink
Anonymous No.536057289
>>536051364
Reorientation after summer vacation
Anonymous No.536057549
It would be impossible for any Gentile coalition under similar circumstances to attain the control which the Jews have won, for the reason that there is lacking in the Gentile a certain quality of working-togetherness, a certain conspiracy of objective, and the adhesiveness of intense raciality, which characterizes the Jew. It is nothing to a Gentile that another man is a Gentile; it is next to everything to a Jew that the man at his door is another Jew.
Anonymous No.536058008
>>535875510
Twin stubber is fucking worthless so seems like a no-brainer
Anonymous No.536058778 >>536060192
Sister Inferior
Anonymous No.536059146
>>536029636
SIGMAR BLESS THIS SHOT
Anonymous No.536060192
>>536058778
*eats pancakes then breeds loving trad emperor fearing wife*
Anonymous No.536062346 >>536062676 >>536217065
>>536023086
>>536018456
What's the deal absolutely ill fitting music in every game they show up in trailers lately? I feel like every game on gamescom and that other event suffered from this. They just put some random metal, rock or pop music no matter the genre or style of a game. It really annoys me
Anonymous No.536062621 >>536062753 >>536063405
Anonymous No.536062676
>>536062346
THIS SUMMER
Anonymous No.536062753
>>536062621
Kerillian does this with rat cum
Anonymous No.536062884
>>536018456
>13 days until release
huh that's unexpected
Anonymous No.536063068 >>536063520
>Arbitard revives teammate in fire
Anonymous No.536063405
>>536062621
Ratsissies…. Not like this…
Anonymous No.536063520 >>536063809
>>536063068
>retard gets revived in fire and can't find his dodge button, instantly dies
Anonymous No.536063809 >>536063908
>>536063520
>retard doesn't know you get up with 0 toughness
let me guess, arbitard with stance right?
Anonymous No.536063908 >>536064116
>>536063809
I play all 5 classes and getting revived in fire is only sometimes an issue on vet or psyker without health curios because it does a fuckload of damage. Still preferable to dying depending on the situation. Definitely survivable if you aren't a massive fucking retard.
>thin-skinned and bad at the game
Let me guess, psyker, right?
Anonymous No.536064000
>>535937571
>You have a dodge button, fuckface. Learn to use it.
Arbiters just piss and shit in the moment they can't use they can't stance or shield, what do you expect?
Anonymous No.536064116 >>536064256
>>536063908
>I play all 5 classes and getting revived in fire is only sometimes an issue on vet or psyker without health curios because it does a fuckload of damage. Still preferable to dying depending on the situation. Definitely survivable if you aren't a massive fucking retard.
Post it with your 100% penace each one then
Anonymous No.536064256 >>536064938 >>536095693
>>536064116
Anonymous No.536064938
>>536064256
Obvious AI deepfake
Anonymous No.536065554
>>535889926
Anonymous No.536067363 >>536070767
Awesome update fatshit very nice
Anonymous No.536070767
>>536067363
Now fatshark will need another 3 years and vacations to fix it
Anonymous No.536071923 >>536101134
Anonymous No.536072150 >>536075097 >>536101134 >>536138984
Why a tech-slut would need tits btw
Anonymous No.536072216
to make you 'Seethe'
Anonymous No.536075097 >>536144396
>>536072150
Some techpriests are just more resistant to body modification.
Not all of them start to instantly replacing their limbs. Also humanity in 40k is very much about the human form and purity of it.
So a techpriestess deciding to add breasts made of metal to her chest is just their way to appear more human.

Also there are the biologis who run more counter toward the more "regular" admech.
Biologis do use cybernetics, but they are more known to enhance themselves biologically and genetically, so stronger bones, denser muscles, more durable skin, etc. Which outwardly leads to appear more human.
Anonymous No.536075319 >>536217065
>>536023086
That trailer music sounds awful.
Why couldn't they use something more fitting like pipe organs or something to give it that religious vibe.
Anonymous No.536075484 >>536075714
>new Darktide event
>no aquilas a reward
It's dogshit.
Anonymous No.536075678 >>536077434
>>535853027 (OP)

steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/668340807104725674
Anonymous No.536075714 >>536079397
>>536075484
Also the shop rotated. And no, the arbites did not get any new slop cosmetics.
Anonymous No.536077406 >>536077841 >>536079576
Does anyone know what the best blessings for the lightning staff in Darktide are?
Anonymous No.536077434
>>536075678
So what is this modifier? Barrel spam + burster spam? If it's burster spam, it'll be unplayable in high intensity because they'll just drown out the entire game audio lol.
Anonymous No.536077841 >>536079516 >>536079576
>>536077406
Also to add to this, this probably sounds stupid, but does the lightning staff always hit the weakspot on the enemy?
Since you can't really control what the staff hits, right?
Am a novice psyker player so I don't really know.
Anonymous No.536078719
I never want to hear a twin stubber again.
Anonymous No.536078837 >>536085456 >>536148125 >>536394806
who wan pley havoc geimu???
Anonymous No.536079397
>>536075714
Nice set and weapons skins, but fatshark is a piece of shit for refuse to change the shop, this will gone for months or years with under the current system.
Anonymous No.536079516
>>536077841
IIRC it picks the hit location randomly.
You can go Warp Nexus/Warp Flurry for lightning or Warp Nexus/Surge for M1 spam.
Anonymous No.536079576 >>536079852 >>536085843
>>536077406
>>536077841
Lightning staff has two main builds
>rightclick
You build that for crit (not necessarily aura, but it does help) with associated blessings. Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry are the ones you usually want. The usual dump stat would be Warp Resistance to run with either Shriek or Scrier's, with the latter being stronger on the shock staff. Lets you have pretty good DPS and stunlock potential, but gives up all of the safety of bubble. You almost always run it with EP warp charges. There are some breakpoints to be aware of, but I forget the exact details. I believe 25% flak and maniacs are the relevant perks for some crit + non-crit or other 2-shot thresholds, I don't remember the one-shots either.
You CAN afford to dump crit bonus when running it with bubble because you will need to quell manually, which makes it slightly more reliable, but be aware that this trades overall performance for ease of use, and isn't exactly optimal.
>leftclick spam
You build around Surge, likely still with Warp Nexus, but Transfer Peril isn't terrible either if you're good at aiming it. You definitely critmaxx for obvious reasons, and take the far left side nodes under Brain Burst. Surprisingly good even after fixing the bug that let you animation cancel for double the fire rate, but also exceptionally boring to play.

Especially when focused around rightclick, I recommend you bring a trash clear melee that can also sorta deal with mixed hordes. I use VIII greatsword with Wrath and Deflector. Flak because it's the most common armor type, and then I put infested on mine because fart-empowered poxers do become slightly inconvenient. Keep in mind that such a build has virtually no mobility and will creep around the map at glacial pace compared to knife psyker, but knife doesn't clear hordes well enough when the shock staff kinda needs it in my experience. You just can't kill trash with the secondary. Primary is alright but finicky with aiming for heads.
Anonymous No.536079852 >>536085843
>>536079576
Oh right, and if you build explicitly for shriek, quell speed can be your dump stat.
Either way, I don't think the stats make that huge of a difference, besides wanting 80 damage 80 crit if you do care about breakpoints. I remember one of the steam guides explaining them, but I don't play enough psyker, and certainly not enough shock staff anymore, to really care.
Anonymous No.536080708 >>536081415 >>536101758
Damn, people really do not want psykers anymore
Anonymous No.536081415
>>536080708
>he thought to himself, after being rejected from 8 havoc groups for attempting to bring an assail gun psyker
Anonymous No.536082076 >>536082151 >>536085858
>Event is a ton of pox bursters and randomly exploding specials
Eh. Pretty whatever.
Anonymous No.536082151
>>536082076
>burster spam
Oh so it's unplayable cancer.
Anonymous No.536082284
FOOTBALL
YEAH
Anonymous No.536083006 >>536088386 >>536101758
>you can nail toilet paper to your forehead for $tree.fiddy
Anonymous No.536083242
>Arbitard seethe and leave the game because Stance didn't save his sorry ass with 3 poxbusters
lol
Anonymous No.536083843
>try to play event
>error 2014
>four times in a row
Oh so it's literally unplayable
Anonymous No.536085370
fun times
Anonymous No.536085456
>>536078837
when it becomes available from the map sure
Anonymous No.536085843 >>536086639
>>536079576
>>536079852
This is the build I'm running now. Does this look good?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fb002b2-30d4-45b3-9eab-a9d5d082ae3b/electro-psyker-7
Anonymous No.536085858 >>536101914
>>536082076
Every single shotgunner has a grenade in his pocket that goes off when he dies and it spawns them in units of 8-24 and makes my fucking game crash. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea for a modifier? It is at least funny though how you can fling yourself around with the explosion.
Anonymous No.536086639
>>536085843
Looks alright. Some pointers though:
You should always take the warp damage on crit in the top right, especially since you're already critting a lot.
Ditch the toughness on peril gain, it's kinda shit.
I'd avoid using unsupported Brain Burst unless explicitly running flame staff. You get effectively nothing out of it unless you actually make an effort to make it good, unlike Smite. Smite may be shit, but there are situations where even completely unsupported Smite is genuinely useful (mostly doing objectives, helping get a res off).
Not running peril block will make Deflector suck cock. If you can't find room for peril block, I'd suggest running +2 stamina on the sword. You don't need carapace on your melee at all, the staff should stunlock those.
You can potentially ditch Psychic Vampire in the keystone, if you need to somehow free up a point. It's good, of course, but I don't remember having trouble getting stacks up with Scrier's. You should be getting so many kills during, that you're back at max by the time it runs out.
Anonymous No.536087109
I was thinking about getting Darktide for a while now. I've watched a youtube video talking about the game and apparently you loot items at the end of the mission but can also just easily craft the best version of them? If I understand correctly, this makes looting completely worthless. But why would you keep replaying the same missions over and over again if not to loot some good stuff? Am I not getting something or is this system literal goyslop for npcs?
Anonymous No.536087253
Don't reply to the return of the baiting casino retard, newfags.
Anonymous No.536088386
>>536083006
>arbiturd have to pay 900 aquilas to raise the visor
Anonymous No.536088610 >>536104254
turdlander hurhurhur
Anonymous No.536092336
Anonymous No.536095693
>>536064256
dude t-that's fakeable you know? nevermind that you'd still need the base image to put the text box over that doesn't exist on reverse image search anywhere... y-you must've faked it because the text box is solid black... trust me, i'm so intelligent..
Anonymous No.536099487
darkturd...
Anonymous No.536099571
>>536032980
it removes 99,9% bacteria
Anonymous No.536101134
>>536071923
very cool
>>536072150
learn English
Anonymous No.536101758
>>536080708
Skill issue. They want me all the time.
>>536083006
Sounds like a deal to me.
Anonymous No.536101886
>it's gonna be yet another month and a half with no content
Weee
Anonymous No.536101914 >>536103994
>>536085858
Sounds like you need a better toaster.
Anonymous No.536103121
>Tech-priest born male
>Change 90% of his body to female
>Even the voice and name
>No one would know the truth
Anonymous No.536103994 >>536107379
>>536101914
No it turns out that the patch broke something with buff icons and now crashes the game if you have too many displayed on screen at once
Anonymous No.536104058 >>536107742
why does fagshart still insist to have fomo shop?
i want to buy pixels but only clownsuits are on rotation
Anonymous No.536104254 >>536104547 >>536105739
>>536088610
What is that shit on his chest
Anonymous No.536104547
>>536104254
His chesticles.
Anonymous No.536105739
>>536104254
gutsickles
Anonymous No.536107379
>>536103994
Lmao
Anonymous No.536107742 >>536110921
>>536104058
Most of their premium sets don't even look good.
Anonymous No.536110921
>>536107742
It's the consequence of having a shop you need to rotate every 2 weeks.
Lot of it is just low effort trash, like being genuinely shitty looking or just a recolor of a previous thing, because they have to do *something* to justify the shop's existance and the type of shop model they use.
Also the other big reason is that Darktide currently only has a bare minimum maintenance crew working on it, who's only jobs are to maintain the servers, fix some bugs and then rotate the slopshop.
And that's what they do because they quite literally don't have the manpower or resources to do anything else.
Anonymous No.536116164
>zero auric event lobbies
>1 damnation game
>keep going lower, people just spam the event on uprising
alright
Anonymous No.536117169 >>536118298 >>536119357 >>536132563
is this any good?
I am new to the game
Anonymous No.536118298
>>536117169
Yeah, don't forget Ruthless Backstab
Anonymous No.536118331
fuck arbitraitors
Anonymous No.536119197
uninstalled the game, wake me up when fatshark adds more than overpiced ugly cosmetics to the game
Anonymous No.536119357 >>536131658
>>536117169
>green weapon with a perk and a blessing
>420 rating with bars longer than they should be
>the perk is too coherent to be a fatshark description
>dumping stamina
>mark 10 500, obvious typo
I have a feeling this is fake, i'm not sure though
Anonymous No.536131658
>>536119357
It is, dont worry
Anonymous No.536132563 >>536133048
>>536117169
you want finesse as a dump stat, it does nothing.

if you have low stam you're going to get rolled
Anonymous No.536133048
>>536132563
With max length you can reasonably dump penetration.
Anonymous No.536138984
>>536072150
retard
Anonymous No.536139756
ATTENTION FOOD BLOGGER
SNACKSUS MINORIS
NACHOS QUESADILLA
Anonymous No.536142213 >>536142864
How many more months until the next "big update" for darktide? Feels like it should be next month or the month after
Anonymous No.536142864 >>536143635
>>536142213
October and it's gonna be as big as Mortis Trials was.
Anonymous No.536143635
>>536142864
So neat at first and then quickly fizzles out?
Anonymous No.536144396
>>536075097
He wasn't asking
Anonymous No.536147636 >>536149146
>>536029256
No you won’t or no it’s not good?
Anonymous No.536147906 >>536148634
>>536032941
>All mammals have belly buttons
Dogs and cats don’t have them.
Anonymous No.536148125 >>536173585
>>536078837
i look like that
Anonymous No.536148634 >>536153668
>>536147906
How do you personally define a belly button?
Anonymous No.536149146
>>536147636
why did you think I'd be here to respond 24 hours after your initial post
Anonymous No.536150367 >>536154414
New darktide event/map modifier explosive uprising. Same rewards as usual
Anonymous No.536153668 >>536155139
>>536148634
Anything that looks like a hole where the umbilical cord should have been I guess?
Anonymous No.536154414 >>536154648
>>536150367
this pvp mode is pretty fun, i downed my team like10 times in one match and managed to not get downed once
Anonymous No.536154648
>>536154414
Nice, they finally added commissar mode
Anonymous No.536155139 >>536155970
>>536153668
I figured a scar from the umbrilical cord would qualify as a belly button
Anonymous No.536155970
>>536155139
Actually yeah you’re right I forgot people can technically have β€˜outies’ but I figured for animals it would all be one uniform case depending on the species but idk
Anonymous No.536159291
*farts*
Praise nurgle
Anonymous No.536161023 >>536161498
>runs a duelling sword

cringe nignog enjoy that barrel
Anonymous No.536161498 >>536162687 >>536162927
>>536161023
>incompetent retard destroys the very thing singlehandedly responsible for his (run's) survival
Idk if you should be throwing "nignog"s around like that, anon. Glass houses.
Anonymous No.536162687 >>536162920
>>536161498
>coping nignog

mmmmmaybe in your games little shitter
Anonymous No.536162920 >>536163061
>>536162687
Caring this much about what others use is the hallmark of a shitter thoughbeit.

As is

reddit spacing
Anonymous No.536162927
>>536161498
>My experience is that a runs survival hinges on a dueling sword
my condolences, I'm glad I'm not that bad
Anonymous No.536163061 >>536163328
>>536162920
>thoughbeit

you dont know what reddit spacing is

you dumb little

nigger newfag
Anonymous No.536163328 >>536163634
>>536163061
>reddit spaces
>deflects
>calls someone newfag while being the newfag
You're cute anon.
Anonymous No.536163634
>>536163328
mmm and after u take ur 30mg chlorpromazine? shitters using broken weapons as crutches coping never gets old
Anonymous No.536166135 >>536166901
this event
Anonymous No.536166901
>>536166135
it's fun
Anonymous No.536167749 >>536168359 >>536168426
>anon says event
>open event
>no aquilas in it
haha, not doing that
so anyway, helldivers 2 content soon
Anonymous No.536168359 >>536168485 >>536189635
>>536167749
>eugh, fun?
>WITHOUT a carrot on a stick?
>eugh... no thanks
Anonymous No.536168426 >>536170642
>>536167749
If events are gonna be much more frequent then i can understand them not giving 500 aquilas, but they could give at least 150
Anonymous No.536168485
>>536168359
>fun
Anonymous No.536168496 >>536170494
helld-ACK
Anonymous No.536170204
extremely desperate "own"
Anonymous No.536170494 >>536170704
>>536168496
What am I looking at
Anonymous No.536170642 >>536175563
>>536168426
Don't encourage their jewry, anon.Even if they were running two events a month, at 500 aquilas per event that would still be two and a half months for a SINGLE outfit. Literally stingier than most gacha games by a significant margin. 150 would be even more of an insult than what we currently get.
Anonymous No.536170704
>>536170494
swedish ingenuity
Anonymous No.536173585 >>536178146
>>536148125
nah ur cring
Anonymous No.536175563 >>536177954
>>536170642
Shut up, anti-semitic piece of shit
Anonymous No.536177028 >>536181239
>nmrih2 adds nightmare opt in, skill rerolling
>nightmare runs should now be 8 skilled out fedchads speedrunning turning local utilities back on
>in the same patch they nerfed zombie spawning so badly nightmare is practically fucking casual
if I had just never bought it on sale during that free weekend, I would be spared this torment
Anonymous No.536177954
>>536175563
sorry moshe, won't happen again
Anonymous No.536178146 >>536181969
>>536173585
wrong
Anonymous No.536181239 >>536186502
>>536177028
>set difficulty preference to nightmare
>still get matched into classic
>literally couldn't tell till the end match screen because it was no different from the nightmare matches I had had so far
Anonymous No.536181969
>>536178146
Anonymous No.536185152 >>536185508 >>536195370
what blessy on hellbore
Anonymous No.536185508
>>536185152
Surgical/Weight of fire/maybe armourbane if you run the faster charging marks
Anonymous No.536186502
>>536181239
What a nightmare huh?
Anonymous No.536186734 >>536190884
What the fuck is going on with this event? The description states increased barrels and increased explosive enemies, but in practice it also has randomly exploding shotgunners, massively increased explosion physics, and the cranial growth modifier that used to be in havoc but got removed? It also seems like there are approximately twice as many gunners and reapers as are in usual snorics but that could be me getting bad rolls.
Anonymous No.536189635
>>536168359
It's not fun at all.
Anonymous No.536190884 >>536195464
>>536186734
yeah shotgunners drop a grenade on death (they do very little damage but push you around) and it's like double explosion strength. I haven't really noticed more gunners thoughever
Anonymous No.536195045
today we will learn more about feast of grimnir, i'm sure of it
Anonymous No.536195208 >>536213515
ny havc geimu??
Anonymous No.536195370
>>536185152
weight of fire and armorbane, games too fast to be using full sniper mode constantly, aiming for center of mass for max stack brittleness and two shots should be enough for everything
Anonymous No.536195464
>>536190884
>double explosion strength
I might be having a schizo moment but I believe that due to jank coding this isn't limited to barrels and also applies to bosses, I just got flung 10 meters into the air and 50 meters horizontally by a plague ogryn stomp
Anonymous No.536195489
this really grinds my gears
Anonymous No.536195729
Im having a blast!
Anonymous No.536199526 >>536199573 >>536199708
I know VT2 is old news at this point but how do you play Unchained Sienna? With Kruber all you need is big sword and handgun to clear hordes and instantly kill specials but with her im struggling to find a build that can deal with specials and armored enemies effectively.
Anonymous No.536199573 >>536199676
>>536199526
Equip the flaming flail
that's it
Anonymous No.536199676
>>536199573
>DLC weapon
its over for me isnt it?
Anonymous No.536199708
>>536199526
like you play a psyker, edge max peril and only f when you're about to bust
Anonymous No.536201946
It took me a few games to realize what felt so OFF about the helbore in trying to use this thing, and it's the fact that your shot gets cancelled in the tiny delay it has if you go out of ADS as you let go of left click as well. I'm trying to fight an entire year of muscle memory from quick ADS quickshots from the bolter and bolt pistol and it's fucking me up
Anonymous No.536203496 >>536203725 >>536204279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjl9EjwyyJk
Anonymous No.536203725
>>536203496
Looks fun.
Anonymous No.536204163
hehee
bor
Anonymous No.536204279
>>536203496
Looks actually really cool and comfy, thank you for sharing this anon.
Anonymous No.536204593 >>536213657
chudette
Anonymous No.536205021 >>536213657
uholiest of nurgle niggershit this event is cancer
Anonymous No.536205512 >>536213657
these errors are cropping up non stop
Anonymous No.536205735 >>536205851 >>536205981 >>536206165 >>536231151
Why do they keep nerfing auric difficulties?
Even with the most inefficient meme builds just for funsies, I'm literally falling asleep because there's absolutely zero density or enemies to whack at.
Anonymous No.536205851
>>536205735
take a moment and think why they would want to make the difficulty playable for all platforms
Anonymous No.536205981
>>536205735
>Why do they keep nerfing auric difficulties?
Because Fatshark is insistent on making havoc a "thing", even though practically nobody plays it or cares about it.
They want havoc to be the "end game" mode for the game, but it just isn't working because how havoc is designed is inherently shit, boring and plain un-fun.
Anonymous No.536206165 >>536206881
>>536205735
Misinformation or you're retarded. The average auric game I play completely overwhelms and chokes my retards with enemy density while I'm left picking up the pieces. Groups of 5+ ogryn, the same amount of flamers on the screen at the same time, a dozen ragers, 3 snipers without an explicit modifier for them, etc. happens often.
If you don't notice enemy density, you're either being carried (likely by an arbitrator), or you're playing lights out/vent purge which are inherently lower intensity.

Aurics supposedly being easier is misinformation. That was only true for a couple weeks when fagshart fucked up the director. Enemy density is now back to what it was before the difficulty change, the game only feels easier because there are 2-3 arbitrators on average, and the class is so easy, the average brain damaged malicelet retard can semi-reliably survive, while any competent player effortlessly tops the scoreboard. Games without arbitrators (rare as they are) still feel the same as before.
Also try playing maelstroms instead. They're still pretty good, whenever it's not burster spam drowning out your audio cues.
Anonymous No.536206881 >>536207274
>>536206165
I don't know man. I just had an hab investigation mission with two vets and a zealot that were slow even by console standards, and the only hangup the entire mission was that I kept getting interrupted by lone pox walkers at the tree. As well as excise vault in the hour glass, the mission I remember being the absolute most hellish in auric was putting me to sleep, even as I was rushing ahead I didn't really think there was much to fear. Something absolutely changed because it never feels like I'm in any state of danger anymore from mixed horde packs or gunner packs. I feel like havoc is literally the only way I can still have fun with the game now
Anonymous No.536207274
>>536206881
Sounds like a mix between you being a better player than you were before playing havoc, and confirmation bias making you more easily notice when the director is taking a nap.
Sometimes whatever RNG the director uses to determine what to spawn, just leads to much easier games. Other times, there's a fuckload of bulwarks and flamers and fart bombers making it impossible to move anywhere while also not being able to see anything, and then you just get raped. Sometimes there's a sniper in front and behind and your 70 IQ teammates all die.
Anonymous No.536207772
they will introduce havoc into map one way or another
just like aurics
Anonymous No.536208378 >>536208919
The final blackpill is that difficulty is completely down to RNG. Any feelings of the game being too easy or too hard at a given moment are down to luck. I have had havoc 40 games with fewer special and elite spawns than damnation that I have sprinted through in 15 minutes, I have had incredible WWI-esque battles of attrition in normal snorics with special spawns every second, I'm talking 6-8 snipers on screen at a time or 20+ shotgunners or 3 pox bombers and 3 scab bombers, I have seen 8 bosses spawn on a snoric maelstrom on the first section of Clandesneedium and ledge the entire team, I have seen maelstroms with the monstrous specials modifier spawn one singe monster the entire mission, I have played a havoc 15 that spawned twins plus a third captain simultaneously while we were trying to avoid a daemonhost, etc. There is no consistency whatsoever to Darktide difficulty.
Anonymous No.536208919
>>536208378
>a havoc 15 that spawned twins plus a third captain simultaneously while we were trying to avoid a daemonhost
All of what you said is true, but this one isn't necessarily RNG. Havoc will frequently spawn two bosses at the same time, one of which can be twins. I believe havoc also has set triggers on each map (might be multiple with the director choosing which, unsure) that have chance to spawn a boss, and then spawn another after a short period of time. ESPECIALLY in low havocs with inexperienced/retarded/hardstuck players, it's somewhat frequent that your resident retard keeps running forward even after tripping a boss spawn, and then forces multiple other bosses to spawn.
Thankfully, the last time I've had this happen in h40 everyone's balls were far too large to be bothered even by 5 simultaneous bosses. But I guess Chorus spam also helped a lot.
Anonymous No.536210634 >>536211613
Fuck quickplay, everytime some retard goes down they instantly leave because they are faggots and then nobody comes in to backfill their deadweight ass.
Also the new option to turn off the fucking campaign doesn't do shit because it's turned ON by default, it should OFF by default.
And of course none of the shitters know to turn it off either.
Anonymous No.536211613
>>536210634
>everytime some retard goes down they instantly leave
Still wondering why this is the case. It made perfect sense to me for the first couple weeks after arbites release. You get newfags and returning retards, both of which end up way out of their depth when deciding to up the difficulty, but the lack of onboarding and retention mechanics (short of mindless tedium) and content drought has caused the game to aggressively bleed players back to nearly pre-arbites numbers.
Yet the amount of leavers is fucking staggering compared to before.
More often than not, someone going down results in an instant leave. If not that, they are near guaranteed to leave if they die. Doesn't matter whether it's auric QP or maelstrom. I'd understand if it were leaving out of futility, knowing that downing/dying is an instant wipe because everyone else is retarded, but no. It's often the weakest player in the game, too. To which I say good riddance because bots are often more reliable, but that's besides the point.

Just, why? I swear the average game has 2 leavers, and the changes to quickplay make reinforcements impossible if the mission dropped off the board because fagshart is retarded as fuck. The only practical solution to the leaver problem is to exclusively play missions that only just showed up on the board lol.
Anonymous No.536212202 >>536213784
I assume mobility is the dump stat on this?
Anonymous No.536213515
>>536195208
Anonymous No.536213657
>>536204593
>>536205021
>>536205512
so true
Anonymous No.536213784
>>536212202
Unless you're using the weapon to run around (I assume shield pistol is slow af because shield mace is also slow af and stamina inefficient), or the weapon has another useless stat (such as collateral on most lasguns), mobility dump is the default.
I don't see why you would dump anything other than mobility on the shield pistol, since you're basically not using that stat on it.
Anonymous No.536216396 >>536216672
>Special Event on Inner Void
>Oh boy, I know how this is going to go
>Everyone gets ledged by barrels as expected
I laughed
Anonymous No.536216672
>>536216396
I swear every fucking rotation has Clandestium in it, Fartshart absolutely know what they are doing
Anonymous No.536217065 >>536217241 >>536217556 >>536217587 >>536217924
>>536062346
>>536075319
It's a Streum On classic, you uncultured newfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmmXd8r4YQ
Anonymous No.536217241 >>536217320
>>536217065
Still sounds like shit tho
Anonymous No.536217320
>>536217241
Filtered
Anonymous No.536217556 >>536217694
>>536217065
>(C) R A P
boil all frogs
Anonymous No.536217587 >>536217694
>>536217065
That sounds nothing like the Daimon trailer, even then I don't care and the Daimon trailer sounds like shit.
Awful choice of a music track.
Anonymous No.536217694 >>536219325
>>536217556
>>536217587
You just don't understand the superior French artistic vision
Anonymous No.536217924
>>536217065
damn, those frogs are retarded
Anonymous No.536218878
>>535921219
>vet knife
I remember beta
Anonymous No.536219056 >>536219869 >>536221264
>Play Arbitrator
>Crash
>Reconnect
>Crash
>Reconnect
>Crash
>Not allowed to reconnect again
Every single time I think I have seen peak Fartshit retardation they manage to outdo themselves a few months later. It's actually fucking baffling that they went on vacation with the new career broken, then finally patched it only to make it actually unplayable.
Anonymous No.536219287
>>535992764
heh
Anonymous No.536219325
>>536217694
Anonymous No.536219869 >>536220121
>>536219056
works on my machine, maybe upgrade your drivers?
Anonymous No.536220121
>>536219869
Just wait, play enough arbitrator and you will crash, unless you have mods installed that remove buff icons or change them in some way. I tried disabling group buff icons in the settings as some people have suggested but I still get crashes depending on the build I use and what my teammates have. It's already been reported by a lot of other people and Fartshit is already aware of it but it likely won't be fixed until next week.
Anonymous No.536221264
>>536219056
Stacking over 40 buffs causes a crash
Anonymous No.536221440
you guys play dead frontier 2?
Anonymous No.536225478 >>536226492
any websites with builds for havoc?
I feel like I am getting gaslit on games lantern with top rated stuff
Anonymous No.536226492
>>536225478
>I am getting gaslit on games lantern
Well yeah, it's full of idiots.
I don't think there's any even decent resource for havoc. Jewtubers are disingenuous clickbaiters, redditors and other forum users are retarded, 4chan is constantly baiting or pretending to the point of even making discussion impossible, and gameslantern has an updoot system that will naturally be biased by retards upvoting popular or easy builds that work in their hardstuckie bracket.
Part of this is because nobody that actually plays havoc 40 regularly, needs any help, and anyone discussing builds will likely already have friends from playing havoc 40, or just inspect other players to see what they do and figure it out from there.

In a way, I would say that if you can't figure it out on your own, you don't belong in havoc 40 anyway.
Anonymous No.536231151 >>536231537 >>536231819 >>536234538
>>536205735
I want a pet seal so bad…
Anonymous No.536231537
>>536231151
so do the canadians
Anonymous No.536231819 >>536232327
>>536231151
They eat like $200 USD of fish per day. Unless you're a millionaire, it's not happening bwo...
Anonymous No.536232327
>>536231819
>72k bucks yearly
>navy seal earns around 90k yearly on the lower rung
sorry Navy, we are getting the economic option
Anonymous No.536234538 >>536238271
>>536231151
Everyone does. Anyone saying otherwise is lying, soulless and/or brown.
Exhibit A:
>https://m.youtube.com/shorts/jMfroejzqXQ
Anonymous No.536234791 >>536235895
yeah me with my foot
Anonymous No.536235895
>>536234791
ΒΏΒΏΒΏ
Anonymous No.536238271
>>536234538
Apparently some of these sea lions. I’ll be damned if I can tell the difference though
Anonymous No.536238710 >>536269229
$20 worth it?
Anonymous No.536239790 >>536243490
ya'll folx ever boot up darktide - play one game and say this aint it?

ye im finna do that
Anonymous No.536243006
Post your favorite rotclick ost
https://youtu.be/4-LklISf7Bc?si=QgntbR0EalB2lUBw
Anonymous No.536243270
>>536018456
what did they mean by this?
Anonymous No.536243490
>>536239790
Do you ever boot up Farttide and get a connection error and then hang on the communicating with Fatshart backend screen for 45 seconds then get into a game then crash to desktop? I'm about to do that personally.
Anonymous No.536244002
SEXUS MINORIS 12 SPOTTED!

NONCEIO AQUILA DEPLOYED!
Anonymous No.536244201 >>536245094 >>536246335
It looks like we are slowly converging upon unlimited grenades for every class. Do we think they are going to give zealot a free grenade every 60 seconds with his rework? Will the Skitarii be able to 3D print his own grenades? Will they just bake the free grenade talent into veteran since literally nobody ever for any reason skips it?
Anonymous No.536245094 >>536246335
>>536244201
Every blitz should be regenerating. Everyone picks blitz regeneration on every class they can, with maybe the exception of Ogryn for he relies on his blitzes less so than others and rock is a worse gun and so it's often like having no blitz at all.
Genuinely why would you pick Impacts over Dogsplosion, for example? They are only useful with Lone Wolf for regeneration.
Anonymous No.536246335 >>536246692 >>536246719 >>536335513
>>536245094
>>536244201
bizarre how crazy the powercreep has gotten

>vt2
>bombs are a resource you dont even start out with, you find them in the level and then you have one
>extreme ff damage so you can only use them as last resort measures or in a very preventative way

>dt
>grenades don't do ff
>you start with one
>utterly OP shit like players getting multiple aoe fire grenades that will kill everything and you can combine with armor pen
>this isn't enough, they must also self-regenerate

simply crazy. I long for a game that didn't go this direction
Anonymous No.536246692 >>536247134
>>536246335
The dlc class just bombs the entire map without fear of FF althoughbeit but i get what you mean
Anonymous No.536246719 >>536246949 >>536248192
>>536246335
It's almost like they're different games and Darktide features much more dangerous enemies in greater numbers therefore you need greater resources to defeat them.
In VT2 you get 1, maybe 2 monstrosities a level and they get melted instantly. Your bombs are just not as valuable because several classes have power greater than explosives, Foot Knight for one can just stunlock the entire map forever.
Anonymous No.536246949 >>536247306
>>536246719
Interesting hypothesis however darktide enemies are precisely not any dangerous because everyone can just btfo them so easily
It's like fatshark devs tried to have an arms race but never addressed that the player is way too OP at removing every threat so no matter how threatening things get it'll never matter because the enemy never gets a turn
Anonymous No.536247134
>>536246692
if you mean engi they specifically reworked him to do that after darktide released
poisoned design ideology
Anonymous No.536247306 >>536247770
>>536246949
What you speak of is purely on paper and not how it actually happens in game because in analysis you flawlessly look at enemies in isolation rather than at the entire wave as a whole. You can one-shot a Bomber with any weapon and somehow they are still the single most dangerous enemy in the game, ever wonder why? It's specifically because other enemies exist.
Don't go pretending like VT2 has ever been hard either. Sienna's Battle Wizard single-handedly rapes that game, and somehow this is her "weakest" state and still remains at the top of S tier.
Anonymous No.536247770 >>536247936
>>536247306
what actually happens in game is that everyone uses shit that stunlocks or instakills enemies because anything that leaves an enemy able to actually attack you is utter dogshit because of how powercreeped everything is
the sole exception to this is shooters but they introduced bubble and gold toughness so you can ignore that threat also

In practice, everything in darktide is extremely threatening but the game teaches and allows you to just neuter everything so it can never be a threat
Anonymous No.536247936 >>536248321
>>536247770
Crazy how it manages to still be more challenging than anything Ratclick has to offer
And more challenging than anything any living coop game on the market has to offer, even
Anonymous No.536248192 >>536249845
>>536246719
>It's almost like
every time a post starts with this it's going to just be a horrid dogshit post that looks like it was written by some ex-reddit moderator, incredible
Anonymous No.536248321 >>536249153
>>536247936
Crazy how you actually had to dodge lesser elites like stormvermin in VT2 yet you insist it's less challenging
When's the last time you actually had to dodge a mauler attack in darktide
Anonymous No.536249153 >>536249436 >>536273696
>>536248321
Ratclick is soooo much more challenging because you 'have' to press space bar
>Warrior Priest of Sigmar bubbles you and revives you and clears all that overhead damage you took 3 seconds ago
>Sienna literally just flames the entire horde including elites to death
>Foot Knight stunlocks the boss and entire horde to death
>Mercenary Kruber regains his ultimate every time he takes a hit and effectively never loses health
>Bounty Hunter or Grail Knight or Shade one-shots the boss
>Outcast Engineer uses his infinite ammo and 3 bombs to kill the entire horde and stunlock the 1 monstrosity in the whole level
>Every single class one-shots every specialist the same second they spawn
>Bardin Ranger two taps every single Chaos Warrior and never runs out of ammo
>Your Twitch integration just gave you health potions and boon of speed and health regeneration
>You use your Shield & Flail to effortlessly heavy attack the entire horde while blocking
>Sister of the Thorn lifts up every single enemy leaving them unable to attack back
>Necromancer having practically infinite overcharge
>Ironbreaker holds M2 and never dies
Anonymous No.536249436 >>536249745
>>536249153
I didn't read your dogshit drivel but yes, the game that has you actually interact with the enemies is more challenging and interactive
Listing shit that doesn't let you ignore that 99% of enemies exist doesn't change that, because in darktide you do have shit that lets you ignore 99% of enemies and just cookieclick them down

When people called it ratclick it was tongue in cheek but darktide unironically plays like an idle chore game to the point where the most popular mods are those that automate button presses
Anonymous No.536249745 >>536250071
>>536249436
Battle Wizard.
Anonymous No.536249845
>>536248192
Well yeah it’s almost like that’s what they were/are…………
Anonymous No.536250071
>>536249745
tell me more about how footknight can stunlock the entire map forever, you retarded clown
Anonymous No.536250289 >>536250461
the funniest part about darktide is that the purple potion equivalent is borderline useless because every class gets instant CD resets out the ass anyway
Anonymous No.536250461 >>536250752
>>536250289
getting hit in vermintide rewards you
Anonymous No.536250752 >>536251435
>>536250461
no because unlike darktide, you dont have 1 free hit (unless you play the dedicated ultra tank class)
getting hit means your green is getting chunked and you have to start relying on temp hp, which in vt2 decays out of combat (whereas in dt it recharges)
Anonymous No.536251057 >>536251259
>recruitlet difficulty observations
fascinating
Anonymous No.536251259 >>536251487
>>536251057
>a-actually toughness is weaker than temp HP
fucking retard
Anonymous No.536251309
why aren't there female ogryns
Anonymous No.536251435 >>536251583
>>536250752
in ratclick lightspamming into skavenslaves is equivalent to a concentration potion. watch 1 minute of cooldown go away in less than 10 seconds.
Anonymous No.536251487
>>536251259
that's nice anon, wasn't talking about you
you drooling baboon
Anonymous No.536251583 >>536251939 >>536252162
>>536251435
>forgot to attach
Anonymous No.536251939 >>536252412
>>536251583
>wow my taunt is recharging so quickly from hitting a horde
that's sure to turn the entire game into a breeze!
did you know you can have infinite chorus uptime in darktide, which is like the warrior priest bubble but
>applies to every party member including yourself
>staggers every enemy so they hold still
>suppresses every ranged in a 1 mile radius
>leaves you and your team with a lingering extreme tankiness boost until you can do the next chorus
yet somehow retards like you insist darktide is totally interactive and le hard because ib can taunt a lot (a relatively low impact skill)
Anonymous No.536252162 >>536252474
>>536251583
If it was darktide the bar would go up 2x as fast and bardin would start out with 2 morgrims bombs
there would also be half as many skaven slaves and instead there would be 2 patrols in every horde
Anonymous No.536252361 >>536252736
>infinite chorus uptime
Stopped reading
Anonymous No.536252412
>>536251939
This is the case for every single ultimate in Vermintide, even the best ones, and the class has nothing to do with it, you just need to hit the enemies. What insane nigger mental gymnastics.
Ratclick is a breeze regardless of what I'm running. I'm not sure how you can pretend this game is challenging. Chorus Zealot is half the power of Warrior Priest because not only are you dealing 0 damage while holding that relic up, your class also needs to sacrifice its damage potential for it and rely on your 3 teammates to actually do something. It's dogshit ability design but it's not as powerful as Mister Estrogen has led you to believe.
Anonymous No.536252474
>>536252162
also the taunt would pulse and give him temp hp for each pulse
also his pickaxe would attack 2x faster and oneshot chaos warriors without charging
Anonymous No.536252736 >>536252856
>>536252361
you probably stopped reading in second grade already
Anonymous No.536252856
>>536252736
Sure rajeet
Anonymous No.536256120
The only thing that can save Darktide at this point is making the females more attractive and putting skimpy outfits in the shop and adding an assassin in a skintight suit and she jacks you off with her feet
Anonymous No.536256453 >>536257104 >>536268721 >>536271431
What fucking retard designed this penance? How are you even meant to do this when you can't even carry 4 boxes at a time? Keep up a streak throughout the entire mission while picking up boxes throughout?
Anonymous No.536257104
>>536256453
>Keep up a streak throughout the entire mission while picking up boxes throughout?
Yeah.
Anonymous No.536258260 >>536258540 >>536269141 >>536271160
holy S
marksman's focus is actually really good in Havoc
who needs piss toughness when you can just remove every single shooter
who's that one anon who kept saying it was actually slept on, come here
you were right
Anonymous No.536258540 >>536269141
>>536258260
*meant Executioner's Stance not MF whatever blaaa
Anonymous No.536268721
>>536256453
Yes. It's easier to get in mortis trials since you can get a grenade regen perk and you get 3 grenade refreshes per 3 waves
Anonymous No.536269141
>>536258260
>>536258540
Bruh you don't need that to shoot them
Anonymous No.536269229
>>536238710
That's the team that made and almost immediately abandoned Tribes III so personally I'm not taking any chances.
Anonymous No.536271160
>>536258260
You don't need Sonic Exe stance to shoot them desune. My Helbore one-shots everything regardless. From my experience VOC actually gives you much bigger openings for killing gunners because it lets you facetank them. And, of course, it protects you and your teammates from them when you can't. Which is why it's such an incredibly versatile and general-purpose ability
Anonymous No.536271431
>>536256453
the best part is that your reward are some shitty recolored convict pants
Anonymous No.536271463 >>536274612
You guys are still playing this game? lol.
Anonymous No.536273696 >>536275718
>>536249153
You also have passive HP regen with the natural bond necklace trait in ratclick. So if you're good enough to only get hit once every few minutes(not hard at all) you stay at effectively full HP the whole match.
Anonymous No.536274612
>>536271463
Yeah, I like it.
Anonymous No.536275718 >>536276295
>>536273696
Temp HP in general is a busted concept. Darktide's Toughness is the natural evolution because it makes health an actually valuable resource. In Ratclick you lose health, who cares, you literally regenerate it by killing shit because temp HP is no different from actual health and it's super easy to regain. But it's also why Ratclick's Zealot is so much better and stronger than Poxclick's.
In Darktide, melee hits will target your health through toughness (unless full) so it's not like it actually replaces health.
Anonymous No.536276295 >>536276790
>>536275718
>(unless full)
Are you actually so shit that your toughness isn't always full in melee? it's the literal same concept as temp HP, except you also get full HP protection so long as you keep fighting.
Anonymous No.536276790 >>536281085
>>536276295
because while you are in melee there will also be enemies not in melee
Anonymous No.536278147
>Rodin Karnak's shield still one shots you unless you're a zealot
come on FatFuck, time to fix it
Anonymous No.536280992 >>536282726 >>536285193 >>536287432 >>536288665 >>536290187 >>536292042 >>536327248 >>536368671
I'm about to play darktide for the very first time
what are the do's and dont's?
what is the best way to progress?
what weapons/perks should I avoid?
give me everything, I want to grind efficiently
Anonymous No.536281085 >>536281332
>>536276790
which doesn't matter because fighting shit in melee refills your toughness and keeps it capped
with fading light 2 you start needing to dodge while fighting but you can still do it
Anonymous No.536281332
>>536281085
you go ahead and try ignoring the gunners and see how that works out
Anonymous No.536282427 >>536282864
What is the consensus on the Arbites male voices?
Anonymous No.536282726 >>536283468 >>536283489
>>536280992
1. Dodging gives you i-frames
2. Blocking and pushing work in a 360 degree angle, becoming less effective the further away from the inner angle (your camera view) and the efficiency of either vary per weapon.
4. Sliding will make you invulnerable to ranged fire for the duration of the slide, but not to melee attacks or projectiles such as flamethrowers.
3. A sound clue plays whenever you are about to get hit from behind (a whoosh sound)
4. A sound cue plays whenever you are about to get SHOT from behind (sounds like a tech beep)
5. Every gun can reach a "Mastery Level" of 20
6. Every gun can reach power of 500 (you level them up by Empowering them, 10 power at a time). You can Empower any weapon as long as you have a sufficiently high Mastery Level. The Armory will sell you weapons with power level depending on your character's level. At max level (30) they will regularly sell you power 450+ levels. I recommend just playing with what the Emp'rah awards you at the end of a mission, until you reach a good level to start buying shit without wasting too many materials to Empower it.
7. Weapons vary in stats. You will see weapons have varying percentages in stats such as Damage, Penetration, Mobility, Warp Resistance, etc. all of which can reach a cap of up to 80% (no, not 100%). You level these up to their maximum cap by Empowering your weapon.
A weapon can have a max stats level of 380 combined. (Such as your starting weapon, it possesses 76% in a total of 5 stats. 76 x 5 = 380)
8. Search what the "Dump Stat" for a weapon you desire is. MOST OFTEN, but not always, this will be Mobility, Defence or Warp Resistance. This means that you will want that weapon to have a Mobility of only up to 60%, and every other stat will reach its maximum potential of 80% as a result. Some weapons have quirks with their stats either due to Blessings or unique mechanics and may have varying "optimal" dump stats.
Anonymous No.536282864 >>536284064 >>536315273
>>536282427
First Place
Maul - swings around to being the most entertaining
Second
Fatalist - Fairly neutral
Distant Third
Authoritarian - Delivery feels the weakest of the bunch.
Anonymous No.536283468 >>536283626 >>536302368
>>536282726
This is the third general I’m in that I’ve seen this girl who is she
Anonymous No.536283489
>>536282726
9. If you want to see what a stat does, find the Inspect button and hover your cursor over the stat on the bottom left. Do check, because the same stat in one weapon might have additional properties in another weapon.
10. Consecrating a weapon will give it a higher Sanctity (aka Rarity) level, which will let you add up to 2 perks and 2 blessings to it at max (Transcendent, golden color). You can check and level up every weapon's Blessings at the Masteries screen in your inventory.
11. If a weapon is of a Sanctity of at least Redeemed (green color) you can Sacrifice it to level up any weapon's Mastery level. Sacrificing a weapon to itself will increase the Mastery XP gain by 5 times.
12. "Discarding" an item will award you money and materials depending on the Sanctity and power of the item
Anonymous No.536283626
>>536283468
red miku
Anonymous No.536284064 >>536287239
>>536282864
I like the Authoritarian. He's very optimistic. He is friendly to pretty much everyone, and asks goofy questions. There's a voiceline where, no shit, he asks an Ogryn how to make friends. Another, he asks the Fatalist if he wants to see some new punishment system he has designed, and excitedly yells "THANK YOU LEXMATE!". He also flirts with a lot of the female Zealots and Psykers.
Anonymous No.536284880
aaaaauggghhh nooo
Anonymous No.536285193
>>536280992
both dodge and jump share same keybind, remap that shit asap
maulers(human sized welding mask fags with chain axes)/crushers (bigger than human, wields fucking rebar club like supermutant from Fallout) have overhead attacks that will fold you like origami, blocking is nigh useless, time your dodges right just before you bring down their weapon
speaking of dodging, use it when you need them the most(floor is on fire, dodging overhead attacks, getting behind enemies), certain classes get some benefits from dodging in skilltree usually good idea to invest in those
pox hounds can pushed when they lunge towards you
when teammate goes down, always check why he jobbed(could be sniper camping, just melee units curb stomping your friend), toss grenade or use abilities to get few seconds to revive them
game has kamikaze enemies that explode, shove them if you're in melee, call your teammate a faggot if he shoots it near everyone
use your stimpacks instead of hoarding them
Anonymous No.536285792 >>536286186 >>536286653
How do you setup your mic? Push to talk? I want to talk for once but it fucks with my playing if I have to dedicate a finger to do it
Anonymous No.536286186
>>536285792
Anyone who doesn't use push to talk should be ejected into the sun.
Anonymous No.536286653 >>536286937
>>536285792
>crunch crunch, nacho noises
>neighbors drilling same wall for the 7th time this week
>vaguely feminine voice shouts at someone for solid 30 minutes
>dog joins in mid way
the voice detection experience
Anonymous No.536286937
>>536286653
*chirp*
Anonymous No.536287239
>>536284064
>He also flirts with a lot of the female Zealots and Psykers
No he doesn’t
Anonymous No.536287432
>>536280992
You're not here for sightseeing. You're a strike team. Your mission is literally to get in, get the job done fast, and get out, with as little time wasted as possible. Don't scour every corner for crafting mats if that would mean breaking away from the team for too long, and/or not being able to get back quickly. You will lose time doing that, and possibly lose games by getting split up. You'll get more mats by sticking together and only checking corners during a lull in the action.

On which note, stick together. Everyone gets buffs from being together, the most important one being passive toughness (shield bar) regen. But also you generally work better as a team. Until you know what you're doing, and have a good build set up, you're kind of shit on your own. This means that you should pay attention to where motherfuckers are, and pay attention to the disable overlay. If there's a big red flashing icon on someone, they need your help. At least LOOK OVER THERE and consider whether you want to help them, and if it looks feasible to do so, drop everything else and go fucking help them. Your teammates will not do the same.

For the most part, you want to use perks that increase damage against an armor type that weapon is good at, or you absolutely must kill quickly. Some ranged weapons can instagib important targets like trappers with +25% maniacs. Check gameslantern to learn each enemy's armor type if you're unsure. In general, avoid meme perks like block/run efficiency or stamina. They're not useless, but you won't know yet how or why they can sometimes be useful. Elites/specials and crit stats are also very niche. Know your weapon and why you put them on before you do so.
Avoid blessings that require you to play like a retard. Most blessings that rely on blocking (including perfect block) tend to be bad, except psyker's force block.

Try recon lasgun with unyielding, crit, infernus, dumdum, with a melee that's good against armor.
Anonymous No.536288374 >>536289543 >>536293092
what the fuck is the point of all the character creation points
nothing except Cadia in planet origin comes up, occupation or motivations also never show up
Anonymous No.536288665
>>536280992
In general, an ideal build should be able to
>clear hordes of chaff
>at least survive against mixed hordes (chaff + bigger enemies of different armor types mixed in) but ideally kill them consistently
>kill armor at least decently well
>kill monstrosities at an okay pace
>be able to shoot snipers because your teammates would rather die to them, than pay attention to your pings
all at the same time.

Because carapace armor (big armored ogryns, some human sized enemy heads) is such a tough nut to crack, it's generally not worth shooting at. Very few weapons can do this with any semblance of ammo efficiency (vet boltgun/pistol with crit headshots and rending, revolver with crit rending if timed right) but they're generally still worse than getting in there with a melee weapon that's good against them. You can look up the meta for that yourself if you care. In general, your melee weapon should be what's good against armor.
Horde clear also sucks to do with most ranged weapons, because, again, it's too ammo inefficient. Only a few weapons do this good.
Because of the above, you might run into a situation where you have no other horde clear tools. Supplement with your skill tree. Veteran frag grenades are a good example here, and a reason to build heavily into grenade replenishment in the tree. But this will depend on your build. Frags are generally accepted as the best grenade for most content, but kraks are extremely powerful too, just in a different niche entirely.
Accept that your retards will uselessly flail when big scary health bar and scary music appear. They will be useless against bosses. You must be able to kill them, otherwise your retards die. Fire is good. Persistent bleed is good. Unyielding is their armor type. Lasguns and bolters have blessings for both DoTs.
If for any reason you end up with a build that can't kill snipers good (flamer zealot, some ogryn builds), prepare for your retards wiping to a single sniper.
Anonymous No.536289543
>>536288374
Correct. I can only assume they planned to have a much more fleshed out RPG-like chatacter creation but realized just how much work that would be and decided to leave all those choices in as padding.
Anonymous No.536290187
>>536280992
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, focus on having fun. Find one weapon you really enjoy, then build around supplementing its power and shoring up weaknesses.
For example: Like the bolter? Excellent. Great gun. Learn to aim at heads, don't magdump it except in emergencies or against bosses. It's good against virtually everything, but slow to pull out and has questionable horde clear due to its long reload. Pick your melee and grenade options accordingly.
Don't meta slave too hard. Everyone can build drooling sword + recon las and be effective, that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have fun, or become better at the game using that.

QRD on the classes:
Arbitrator is the power crept pay to win DLC retard class. The equivalent of putting on tard headgear and having the dog function as your handler when you inevitably fail to block push a dog or dodge a mutant. If you see your retards perform unexpectedly well, it's likely because of this. Very fun, very strong even at the top, but bad for learning the game since it's loaded with crutches.
Ogryn smash, ogryn explode. Easy to pick up, deceptively hard to master. Pretty different from the other classes. If you use any of the stubbers, remember that you're supposed to brace them. Stop moving and crouch for even more accuracy, they're actually decent at range.
Psyker is a space wizard glass cannon. Really hard to pick up. If you're just starting out, I recommend assail, it's fun and easy to use. Kinda shit for locking you out of psykinetic aura (left side, best skill in the tree) but that won't matter until later.
Veteran is the shooty class. Uses guns the best, and has the most ammo. You still need to learn the melee combat however. Don't be that guy who gets backstabbed and dies to random chaff.
Zealot is the fast unga bunga melee class. Possibly the best for learning the game. Only really has one build for generic content and doesn't become versatile until endgame.

>post limit again
Just ask questions.
Anonymous No.536292042 >>536293715
>>536280992
>what is the best way to progress?
Play the game on the hardest difficulty you're comfortable playing, with +10% exp perks in all of your curios until 30. Yes, it's worth it.
Use weapons with high rating. Upgrade them to at least 1 perk and the best blessing they have. You can ask for spoon feeding in the thread. Don't waste your mats on crafting the perfect weapon yet, you'll end up broke before you know it. In the blessing skill tree, you usually only need 1-2 of the best blessings at level 3-4, depending on the blessing, for the weapon to be strong. Don't worry too much about having bad stats or whatever.
If you want to accelerate your mats grind, consider playing havoc. Be aware that this is the uber hard endgame mode. Win a maelstrom game first before you talk to the ruski whore, it catapults your level forward by a bunch. If you win a havoc game every week, you'll be rewarded with materials for it, with greater rewards the higher your completed level. You can just view this as part of the grind and not worry too much about gitting gud just yet. You'll want a maxed character with ideally a metaslave build or three to climb, anyway.
Once you unlock Melk, check him daily and do his quests. Melkbux are a virtually useless resource, only good later on for buying curios. You don't need to autism your curios yet, so just spend your melkbux on buying high level weapons to save on other mats. You might want to wait for a shop reset after getting to 30 however, because that gives you the strongest weapons.
Anonymous No.536293092
>>536288374
rp
Anonymous No.536293715
>>536292042
>Win a maelstrom game first before you talk to the ruski whore,
I'm not even sure if this works if you win a maelstrom BEFORE talking to her. Might have to talk to her first. It's been ages for me. Just wanted to clear this up in case it fucks you over.
Anonymous No.536293863 >>536294102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjl9EjwyyJk
will it be /coopg/kino?
Anonymous No.536294102 >>536296335
>>536293863
only if I can kill the rat
Anonymous No.536296335
>>536294102
you literally cook it and eat it 3 seconds later
Anonymous No.536297449 >>536297698
cook and eat this bussy
Anonymous No.536297698 >>536301562
>>536297449
you a rat femboy?
Anonymous No.536300830 >>536304752 >>536304881 >>536308313
my favorite part of vermintide is when the game is playable and fun up until legend and then they just replace every trash mob with a special that also deletes half your hp when they look at you and also all of a sudden your attacks do 0 damage and also your block push does absolutely nothing hahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahhaha fuck yea dude i love playing this game hahhaha yea for fun yea h i play for fun dude because im having a good times haha yea dyude
Anonymous No.536301562
>>536297698
All rats are femboys technically the mostly have sex with each other
Anonymous No.536302368
>>536283468
https://youtu.be/19y8YTbvri8

Teto
Anonymous No.536304752
>>536300830
umm you need to dodge and use anti elite combos
Anonymous No.536304881
>>536300830
back to soulslop
Anonymous No.536308313
>>536300830
Legendary isn't even the hard difficulty
Anonymous No.536310284
Stagger is evil
Anonymous No.536312172
Blight spread is so cancer, why do the pools have to linger so damn long
Yes This modifier that restricts my ability to roam the map as I please is fun, please share more, dear fagshart
Anonymous No.536315273
>>536282864
I picked maul because I wanted the Dredd voice and I liked how it was trying so hard that it wrapped back around to being goofy, but it feels like he barely has anything to say at all. The only interaction I can even recall between him and another member of the party is the exchange about bully ogryn wanting to throw him. Maybe it's just because I play mostly havoc and maelstrom now but it feels like I never hear character interactions anymore like I used to.
Anonymous No.536316000 >>536317371
So is this game mode making anyone else crash?
Anonymous No.536316949 >>536317371
What is the point of the bully club anyways? The branx feels like it CCs and mulches mixed hordes infinitely better with its overtuned push attack
Anonymous No.536317035
Darktide: the cope times
Anonymous No.536317371 >>536352771
>>536316000
Several popular Arbites and possibly some Veteran builds now have an issue where they stack too many icons on screen and result in the game crashing. There should be something about player icons in the crash log but I can't remember the exact wording. If the event is crashing you then it might be your PC.
>>536316949
Branx is the better weapon but the bully club feels better since it's more responsive and mobile. It's also significantly easier to use and ogryn players tend to be retarded so it works well for them.
Anonymous No.536320486 >>536323891
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/579
for buff icon crashes
Anonymous No.536323891
>>536320486
seems to have worked, thanks
Anonymous No.536327248
>>536280992
The first rule of fight club is to have fun and be yourself :)
Anonymous No.536327704 >>536353338 >>536379470
They’re in
Anonymous No.536328056 >>536379470
why does the imperium tolerate catgroids...
Anonymous No.536329083 >>536379470
cussy is emps approved aldoebeitever
Anonymous No.536329501
What are the best perks for helbore?
I'm running the mk4 with armourbane + weight of fire and flak + manic on it.
Anonymous No.536332825 >>536334635
SCREAM SUFFER SURFACE DWELLERS AHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.536334635
>>536332825
Anonymous No.536335513
>>536246335
Rock goes bonk.
Anonymous No.536343291
>run bull rush in aurics
>it's fast as fuck
>it's fun
>the attack speed buff makes for really good boss DPS
>constantly end up on my own because my retards keep mysteriously going down in droves
>I can be all the way over there, killing shit by the dozen, and they still eat shit to random poxers gnawing their ankles
>what the fuck
>switch back to taunt
>my retards mysteriously stop averaging 2 downs every horde
Jesus Christ it really is like herding cats. These fucking idiots can't survive without constant hand holding and crutches. Even vet shout is worse at keeping retards alive somehow, because they never use gold toughness, or keep breaking coherency.
>taunt enemies into a convenient ball to kite around a little
>retard brain sees lots of enemies and spams into it
>this also naturally baits retards into staying together
Why can't darkturds be competent?
Anonymous No.536343571 >>536343736 >>536343737 >>536344372
people actually use the hellbore?
Anonymous No.536343736
>>536343571
"People"
Anonymous No.536343737
>>536343571
I personally hate it because it's awkward as fuck with the delayed shot, in a way that's even less tolerable than the plasma which I also hate. But I can't deny that both weapons are strong, even if I think the plasma is grossly overrated by hardstuck redditors.
Anonymous No.536343789 >>536344164
>fartshart returns from their post-vacation vacation
>makes a special event centered around some of the most hated aspects of the game (barrels and poxbursters)
At least they fixed EO
Anonymous No.536344164
>>536343789
>some of the most hated aspects of the game (barrels and poxbursters)
They also intentionally put Clandestium Gloriana in EVERY SINGLE event mission rotation. Some sadist over there thinks it's funny to torture players after a month long drought with that infamous beginning ledge section plus a thousand barrels and bursters.
Anonymous No.536344372 >>536344597 >>536344962 >>536352506
>>536343571
It's okay in terms of having infinite ammo, but it's so unwieldy and janky at actually firing at things at a quickshot pace that I wonder why I even take it half of the time. It needs an unreasonable amount of space and time to actually set up and fire because of the awkward delay in its fire, but unlike the plasma or bolter, its entire shot will be fucking cancelled if you decide to stop aiming down the sights for a quick shot, and that is the sole reason why I've come to loathe this weapon. If it still fired, I would still take it into havoc but that sole piece of jank makes the gun unusable in my head. I won't deny it's strong, but fuck me it's like pulling teeth to actually put into practice if you don't have a team that is going to give you ample space to pop a few shots (you never do because no one sees vet as a babysitting class like psyker so you will have to make your own space.)
Anonymous No.536344597 >>536344901
>>536344372
Meanwhile theorycrafter retards who don't actually play the game will tell you that based on their theorycrafting the helbore is objectively the best veteran weapon in havoc and you're stupid and/or a redditor for using the plasmagun
Anonymous No.536344901
>>536344597
People who actually play havoc acknowledge that the helbore is a good weapon, while anyone that obsesses over the plasma gun evidently hasn't reached havoc 40 yet if they think veteran needs an infinite cleave gun. I'm also fairly sure a large portion of plasmabots just autism over how fatshark wants to nerf it (because redditors are crying about it) as if that's confirmation that it's le OP when barely anyone even uses it anymore in h40 for reasons that go several miles over the average retard's head even when explained.
Anonymous No.536344962
>>536344372
Damn those pigs get a slide?
Anonymous No.536346307 >>536346651
this shit will take forever right?
Anonymous No.536346651
>>536346307
It's not that bad, the annoying part is how much ass the keystone sucks.
Melee stacks are consumed on each hit, so you want to actively avoid weapons that cleave good. Taxace is a good medium because it deletes trash on headshot, attacks fast, and is easy to avoid cleaving with. For ranged weapons, you also want fast firing and fast killing guns. I've incidentally had the most success with the autopistol when grinding this. The shock shotgun is also good for its high damage cleave, and probably better overall?
Anonymous No.536349879 >>536351472 >>536355023
For how much shit this general loves to give this keystone, it's actually really nice with relic blade. The only thing I'm missing is BP's toughness DR, but the attack speed makes up for it.
>inb4 just run martyrdom
I'd rather have an actual health pool.
Anonymous No.536350565 >>536352771
Looks like trying to fix the HUD led to more crashing, bravo fartshart
[Script Error]: ...ements/player_buffs/hud_element_player_buffs_polling.lua:540: attempt to index local 'widget' (a nil value)
Anonymous No.536351472
>>536349879
The relic blade's major weakness is the fact that it isn't so good for crits
Anonymous No.536352475
Dead general? Dead game?
Anonymous No.536352506 >>536353973 >>536362987
>>536344372
>janky at actually firing at things at a quickshot pace
>unreasonable amount of space and time to actually set up and fire because of the awkward delay in its fire
>its entire shot will be fucking cancelled if you decide to stop aiming down the sights for a quick shot
okay, it literally doesnt do any that though, have you actually used the weapon
Anonymous No.536352771
>>536317371
you mean >>536350565
Anonymous No.536353338 >>536379470
>>536327704
darktide was the first to name drop felinids in years so it could happen
Anonymous No.536353973 >>536354683
>>536352506
This is me fighting 2 years of bolter muscle memory and intentionally demonstrating that the weapon has a delay that can be interrupted by the ADS, but you get the picture. This happens at any charge level, including holding a maximum charge shot for a full second, so it's not that I'm not fully charging the shot, the weapon can deliberately unload itself with the ADS even holding a fully charged shot for any amount of time.
If it's a feature of the weapon that is intended, then it is a very bad feature that I would like to see removed.
Anonymous No.536354137 >>536354258
I really really hope Daimon Blades is good
Anonymous No.536354258
>>536354137
It's StreumOn. The best you can hope for is jank kino that gets dropped after half a year for some new retarded pet project, and subsequently crashes and burns.
Anonymous No.536354265 >>536355772 >>536355804 >>536356738 >>536358897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjl9EjwyyJk

another soon to be discussed co-op game on copeg, surely?
Anonymous No.536354683 >>536354913 >>536354942
>>536353973
okay, but that still doesnt make it a slow weapon though
Anonymous No.536354913
>>536354683
Comparatively to everything else vet has? Yes, yes it is.
Anonymous No.536354942 >>536355446
>>536354683
Undeniably slower than the weapons it competes with
Anonymous No.536355023 >>536358930
>>536349879
>I'd rather have an actual health pool.
Skill issue.
Anonymous No.536355446 >>536361287
>>536354942
its a .25s charge that only gets faster, you use that time to line up the next headshot
Anonymous No.536355772
>>536354265
from Ratclicking to Ratcooking
we came a long way
Anonymous No.536355804
>>536354265
I'll be waiting for the Dungeon Meshi mods
Anonymous No.536356738 >>536357914
>>536354265
What’s up with all this coop slop coming out? Is it shovelware fest or something?
Anonymous No.536357914
>>536356738
Co-op slop is one of the ways indieshitters can make it big, if it becomes streamerbait of the month.
Anonymous No.536358897
>>536354265
we don't discuss friendslop here
Anonymous No.536358930 >>536359851 >>536359936
>>536355023
Getting blown up by a poxburster because my retarded teammate decided to shoot it in my face is hardly a skill issue, anon. Having to run away like a fucking coward every time I hear ticking is a cancerous play style.
And we both know that going down likely means wiping because the kind of retard to do this is completely useless.
Anonymous No.536359738 >>536359836
Imagine buying a live service game from an area of the world where they go on holiday for 8/12 months of the year lmao.
At least asian gachaslop has content coming.
Anonymous No.536359836
>>536359738
okay
Anonymous No.536359851 >>536359985
>>536358930
>Getting blown up by a poxburster because my retarded teammate decided to shoot it in my face is hardly a skill issue, anon
It is. Your gamesense is supposed to assess when your teammates are retarded so that you can avoid poxbursters knowing they will be shot at on your face.
Anonymous No.536359936
>>536358930
>Getting blown up by a poxburster because my retarded teammate decided to shoot it in my face is hardly a skill issue, anon
It is a skill issue.
I run martyrdom and I deal with bursters by just running away from them and luring them into my team mates.
Either we both die or he dies, simple.
Anonymous No.536359985
>>536359851
>Your gamesense is supposed to assess when your teammates are retarded
Anon this is every single game.
Anonymous No.536360187 >>536360270 >>536360481 >>536360559 >>536361139 >>536365139 >>536365474 >>536366812
What's with all the Arbites hate?
Anonymous No.536360270 >>536364365 >>536365474
>>536360187
Shitter crutch class that enables even worse players to vaguely survive the higher difficulties while contributing nothing and paying zero attention.
Anonymous No.536360481 >>536364365
>>536360187
Shitty players can't compete with them
Anonymous No.536360559 >>536364365
>>536360187
Shitters jealous of shitters with more disposable income than them
Anonymous No.536361139 >>536364365
>>536360187
Class that is so OP that even 1 of them existing in a mission makes it a cake walk, ie. boring.
Anonymous No.536361287 >>536361872 >>536362305
>>536355446
Okay but the post was about pot shots. From an incredibly lazy recording, the swap speed to helbore weapon prep and charge time has 250 frames give or take assuming you are firing the weapon as fast as possible from a quick shot to deal with an elite or specialist.
The bolter has roughly 190 before it can ads and fire. I can't be arsed to do precise frame data.
The hellbore is slower at being able to fire (a charged shot) than the bolter, which has a slower draw speed but has a faster ready shot, which means it is combat ready at a noticeably faster rate.
It is the slowest gun there is at being able to initially kill an enemy from a drawn state that vet has.
Again, I am not arguing the gun is weak, I am not arguing the gun is bad at killing, I am not arguing that it cannot dispatch a large amount of elites in a good TTK. What I am stating from the very original post is that it has a noticeably longer ready time than every other gun from both setup and the initial draw, which is not a luxury you always have in havoc as you are always going to be making your own space which the helbore doesn't do on its own either.
Anonymous No.536361872
>>536361287
because youre not suppose to swap off of helbore in the first place
Anonymous No.536361979
Holy fuck man
Anonymous No.536362305 >>536362578
>>536361287
Helboretards completely btfo'd
Anonymous No.536362578 >>536362987
>>536362305
>veteran's best weapon performs better than everything else
I don't think bolter being better is particularly controversial
Anonymous No.536362987
>>536362578
Anon simply threw out the gauntlet with a retarded statement >>536352506
, I just wanted to correct him.
Anonymous No.536364365 >>536364601 >>536365139 >>536365474
>>536360270
>>536360481
>>536360559
>>536361139
That fucking sucks. I vaguely remember a similar issue with Vermintide DLC classes, but it was never this bad.
Anonymous No.536364601 >>536365474
>>536364365
Very true.
And seeing that fatshit is dedicated to their terrible ideas it is likely that Arbites is going to stay as the new norm in terms of power level.
Anonymous No.536364993 >>536366826
>lose 8 Havocs in a row
*Breathes in.*
*Breathes out.*
Time to play some more Havocs.
Anonymous No.536365139
>>536360187
>>536364365
Arby's is really fun just playstyle wise because it's constant aggression and stagger spam the entire time. It's just really stupidly OP with the obscene amounts of toughness regen and base stats you have, on a class swimming in damage nodes, with better tanking capability than ogryn.
Easily the best AND easiest class up to maelstrom, only falls off in havoc by no longer overperforming and being about on par with the others except psyker because infinite cleave is retarded and shriek yields millions of damage in a team that doesn't need bubble. A good zealot is arguably even stronger overall because it makes wiping almost impossible, but that's mostly on bad teams. Rumbler is broken in fully coordinated premades, but premades are for trannies and jewtubers anyway.

The biggest problem ultimately is just malicelets shitting up aurics and having enough fun to stick around despite having no idea how to play and refusing to co-operate. Most of them are also massive ammo vacuums, in part because the shotgun is really good at "kill securing" clumped up enemies that were already dying in melee, and in part because they never learned to melee so they just spam gun without the courtesy of
>taking the fucking ammo talent
>spamming the special rounds for truly retarded ammo efficiency just snacking on small ammo packs because they fully restore the special rounds (that deal full damage btw)
because they're retards.
Anonymous No.536365474 >>536365883 >>536366097 >>536366812 >>536367915
>>536364365
>>536360187
>>536360270
>>536364601
I love dogs in games, but I hate overpowered bullshit. I've been waiting to get back into DT for like 2 years. At this point I've been waiting for Arbites to get nerfed so that I can actually buy it and enjoy the class.

The idea of buying a training wheels diaper feels stupid. I'm not a dumb baby. Give me an engaging class with a cool way to use my cool dog.

On a related note, is the duelling sword nerfed yet?
Anonymous No.536365717
my face is my shield
Anonymous No.536365883
>>536365474
>On a related note, is the duelling sword nerfed yet?
It's supposed to come in a future patch, most likely in the next major patch, but who knows when that update actually happens.
Anonymous No.536366097 >>536367025 >>536367554
>>536365474
>On a related note, is the duelling sword nerfed yet?
No, fagshart """accidentally leaked""" a draft of proposed nerfs in a Chinese update post, and the community went nuclear over having muh drooling sword and muh plasma gun nerfed.
Since then, they said they would rework the drooling sword to have some retarded parry mechanic or whatever, but nothing has come of it because fagshart had to go on vacation (after 3 consecutive hotfixes to arbites, each of which broke the class in a worse way, followed by them leaving their offices and taking over a month to fix a literally keystone INVALIDATING bug).

That said, I don't see many dueling swords. I rarely ever use it myself. It's only common in havoc where people play to win.
All the crutchtards are playing pigger.

Also arbitrator is genuinely fun, I don't think you should be discouraged from playing it just because it's the retard crutch class.
Anonymous No.536366625
test
Anonymous No.536366812
>>536360187
it's the strongest class atm. That's literally it.

>>536365474
you don't have to run the most OP build with the most OP weapons to enjoy arbites. I'm having a lot of fun playing chainsword arbi.
Anonymous No.536366826
>>536364993
Stupid sleepy slut *breeds you*
Anonymous No.536367025 >>536367492
>>536366097
>Since then, they said they would rework the drooling sword to have some retarded parry mechanic or whatever,
thats what the leaked notes were, and thats why people shat themselves. Funnily enough it unironically looked like a buff for havoc to me. Imagine DS4 with a bit less heavy damage but instead you get a devils claw parry on it to oneshot and infinite cleave with.
Fatshark is retarded tho. They presented it as a nerf rather than a rework
Anonymous No.536367492 >>536367774
>>536367025
>it unironically looked like a buff for havoc to me
It's not. Parrying mechanics are tied to blocking, which is tied to stamina and/or perfect blocking. Perfect block is a meme because the timing window is punishingly short and borderline impossible to hit on ping. The reward isn't the risk of instant death if you fuck up parrying an overhead. Even if there's some damage reduction buff that makes you not instantly die on a mistimed parry, you're likely still getting stamina zeroed and then killed during the stun that happens.
Also, to me, the most important part about the dueling sword is the special stab. It's the main reason I use it. Removing that will likely make me switch to tacaxe, since it has a slightly less but nonetheless functional version of it, while retaining good single target and boss damage.
Anonymous No.536367554
>>536366097
China has been portrayed as some kind of based savior of videogames by having anti-woke sex appeal in their games. But the Chinese audience is the most sensitive group of gamers in in the entire world. Don't you dare nerf anything overpowered, or offend the Han dynasty.
Anonymous No.536367774 >>536367865 >>536368078
>>536367492
idk man I use the devils claw on h40. I dont even try to perfect block, I just mash parry into crowds. For some reason they decided to give it 0 recovery frames so itll just keep working and keep killing the mixed hordes with infinite cleave
I think youre overthinking the mechanic
Anonymous No.536367865
>>536367774
we have to wait and see how it turns out. Apparently it's going to be extra good on psykers.
Anonymous No.536367915
>>536365474
>I love dogs in games, but I hate overpowered bullshit.
Same boat, pretty much. I absolutely love the concept of arbites, this hurts so much.
Anonymous No.536368078 >>536368334
>>536367774
It's cute that it's working for you, but unfortunately dclaw isn't killing any relevant targets when it matters. Spamming parry into a horde isn't something you should even be doing in the first place, when psyker staff, zealot flamer, frag spam or rumbler should be clearing out anything that isn't carapace. And then there's a bunch of targets that need to die that don't trigger the parry because they're reluctant to use melee attacks.
I view parrying as almost exclusively a psyker mechanic because of the peril block node giving you so much safety.
Anonymous No.536368115 >>536371886
I dislike the arbites dog conceptually
>game is all about reacting to and addressing threats
>add an ai companion that does it for you
its never gonna be fun
Anonymous No.536368334 >>536368556
>>536368078
I get top damage with it and it rapes the fuck out of elites so idk where u get off telling me i shouldnt be doing it. suck a dick I guess, you werent even aware its spammable and now youre an expert. you people need to eat a bite of humble pie
Anonymous No.536368556 >>536369539
>>536368334
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, anon. I have no reason to believe you after having observed a good handful of dclaw users in my havoc games achieving absolutely nothing of value with it. Good survivability tool on psyker, that's about all I saw.
Anonymous No.536368671 >>536369053
>>536280992
Maps are linear, try not to play backwards towards spawn.
Enemies respawn infinitely, there's no reason to hang around for too long.
Avoid "vigilant autoguns", they are trash.
It's everyone's responsibility to kill snipers and bombers.
The enemy is often not as dangerous as they look. Sticking together and striking hard is the solution to most problems.
Anonymous No.536369053
>>536368671
>Avoid "vigilant autoguns", they are trash.
You're about 95% correct, but the big damage one is alright specifically on veteran who has an easy time forcing crits. It's worse than boltgun in every way that matters, but it's usable on vet.
If someone wants to grind levels for penances without spending mats, this is definitely the way to go.
Anonymous No.536369539 >>536369949
>>536368556
mayhaps you should go into a game and test out the riposte mechanics before you call it extraordinary my clueless friend
Anonymous No.536369949 >>536370941
>>536369539
Maybe you should post proof instead of being an insufferable faggot talking out of your ass the entire time.
Anonymous No.536370941 >>536372000
>>536369949
>post proof because im too lazy to ever use the thing myself and instead judge it by what retarded psykers do in my pubs
hmmm maybe if you say please
Anonymous No.536371139
This special event is almost a more poxbursters/barrels Maelstrom
Anonymous No.536371886 >>536372912 >>536373015
>>536368115
Mutants are the least concerning of those threats in the game, and dogs can be annoying but they're typically easier to handle than trappers when you're in a tight situation because any damage they take frees you. I think they could probably balance it fine around those situations, the problem is that everything else about arbites is also busted.
Anonymous No.536372000 >>536385746
>>536370941
pretty please?
Anonymous No.536372912 >>536377701 >>536400062
>>536371886
I think the safety against dogs is quite strong, while the mutant thing is mostly irrelevant. I don't even think dog is particularly broken, but rather, that its relatively powerful autonomy is still kind of unfair with how much it's able to do without any player input.
I know that nobody cares about lower difficulties, but bear with me here for a sec. You should see a dog build that just takes all the dog nodes in the lower difficulties. It basically solos them. 3-4 dog builds? There are never enough enemies on the screen for 4 dogs to even struggle stunlocking to death. The only thing players have to react to are snipers and bombers, but that's solved with a single ping. It's ridiculous.

In actually relevant difficulties, the biggest problem is having a toughness pool up to 240 or something, and regenerating 15% of it every second without even trying, or even being in coherency. And that's without accounting for the toughness on hit, BTL toughness if you know what you're doing, or Stance making you effectively invulnerable even if you're a fucking mouthbreathing retard.
Anonymous No.536373015 >>536377701
>>536371886
I just think itd be a lot more fun if the dog was stronger/more responsive but not autonomous at all
minion concepts suck ass in games where the actual gameplay is fun
Anonymous No.536373371 >>536373909
>tell 2 retarded zealots how to use their braindead ability to counter bosses
>both corner themselves and die instead
you'd think the highest difficulty would filter these retards long before but no
Anonymous No.536373487 >>536373576 >>536375230 >>536375461
steals your jeans
Anonymous No.536373576
>>536373487
I look like this lol
Anonymous No.536373909
>>536373371
>practically nobody knows what a good havoc zealot build looks like or how you're supposed to play it
>everyone desperately crutches on chorus, but then just accepts that their retarded zealots are going to be useless every 40 seconds
>as a result, retards with retarded builds get auto-accepted, further perpetuating the cycle and developing a meta around it
>actually good and consistent zealot builds get ridiculed and shat on by clueless meta slaves that can't think for themselves because they don't take muh toughness talents
The thing you described is just a matter of meta slave retards saving their 50 second cooldown like potions in an RPG "but what if I need it??", because their shitbuilds have no reliable form of cooldown reduction when it actually matters.
Anonymous No.536375230
>>536373487
Why do they do it? Don’t they know khakis are superior?
Anonymous No.536375461 >>536379709 >>536407840
>>536373487
>Ok so draw me a woman
>make sure she's bald
>make sure she has wider shoulders than hips
>also make sure she has low bodyfat so you can see the abs and rippling muscles
>her delts? yes i know they're androgen receptors but make them HUGE
>make sure to show the veins on her head
>also, make sure hide her face so it's not too obvious it's a female

>oh uh boobs? Oh yeah you're a straight artist I forgot, yeah add them if you want
Anonymous No.536376889 >>536379540
Is it worth it to still play KF1 and KF2 if I never played any of them before?
Anonymous No.536377701
>>536372912
>>536373015
That's fair, I honestly was expecting the mastiff to answer manual commands rather than just freely going around killing stuff when arbites came out. I just think having the safety net for dogs is strong but not necessarily game-breaking when the rest of the kit is properly balanced. It's really the combination of everything that ruins the class for me. I mean, Ironbreaker in Vermintide 2 is basically immune to disablers with Gromril Curse and feels similar to this in some ways, but that at least came at a cost.
Anonymous No.536379470
>>536327704
>>536328056
>>536329083
>>536353338
Unironically I do hope they get to be a real thing in some kind of media down the line but from what I understand they don’t even have models so they’re probably a lower concern
Anonymous No.536379540 >>536395834
>>536376889
yes. Try both and play the one you like the most
Anonymous No.536379709
>>536375461
Anonymous No.536383831
any Darktide Discords ?
Anonymous No.536385746
>>536372000
pathetic
(nta btw)
Anonymous No.536392209 >>536394050 >>536395103
>play havoc 40 with 3 psykers
>keeping everyone safe with chorus spam
>retards get split up anyway (how?), wipe
>next game, twins rape us in a small room because they somehow have no dps and refuse to leave the room despite my attempts to push out
>next game, one guy keeps eating overhead (how?), wipe, psykers shamefully leave
kek, I see why nobody wants psykers
Anonymous No.536394050
>>536392209
psyker is the one class that has no skill floor IF people protect you
If you invite 3, they can't protect eachother so they all eat shit constantly unless they're good (they likely wouldnt play psyker then)
Anonymous No.536394069 >>536394238 >>536394295
is abyssus as fun as it looks?
there is ONE thing in that game that makes me wanna buy it immediately
Anonymous No.536394238 >>536395801
>>536394069
what is that one thing?
Anonymous No.536394295 >>536395801
>>536394069
it looks fun to you?
Anonymous No.536394806
>>536078837
is the offer still up
Anonymous No.536395103 >>536396682
>>536392209
>3 psykers
For the purposes of ranking up even just 2 psykers is throwing imo. Class is far too squishy and 2 psykers can't accomplish anything 1 psyker can't. It's a weird class.
When I was ranking up I never wanted to see a psyker. They are liabilities more often than not, the Arbitrators aren't kidding
Anonymous No.536395134
YOUR WEEKLY PAYPIG UPLOAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4hfMIMQ4bc
Anonymous No.536395801 >>536396409
>>536394238
>>536394295
healthbars that flash white depending on how high your dps is
thats a constant, raging, erupting, inhuman, limitless, large, sizable, substantial, great, huge, immense, enormous, extensive, colossal, massive, mammoth, vast, tremendous, gigantic, giant, monumental, mighty, gargantuan, elephantine, titanic, mountainous, Brobdingnagian boner no matter the game that has it
Anonymous No.536395834
>>536379540
will anyone here play with me? the old multiplayer partner finding system is hard to navigate.
Anonymous No.536396409 >>536396708
>>536395801
gayyyy
Anonymous No.536396682 >>536396852
>>536395103
2 psykers is genuinely good, it lets one use bubble and the other shriek. But it does kind of require that the psykers don't eat glue, and apparently I had three of those.
Anonymous No.536396708
>>536396409
bro you play darktide
sit LMAO
Anonymous No.536396852 >>536397017
>>536396682
just have the bubble psyker use the inferno staff and he can do the same job as the 2nd psyker
Anonymous No.536397017 >>536400975
>>536396852
You underestimate the retarded amounts of damage shriek can do
Anonymous No.536398863 >>536400058
>clutching the last subway room before captain at chasm station
>rager squad spawns, but instead of attacking they literally just stand and block the path to the elevator
Anonymous No.536400058
>>536398863
chaosGODS won
Anonymous No.536400062 >>536401525 >>536401923
>>536372912
>and regenerating 15% of it every second without even trying, or even being in coherency
I just realized a thing about the Arbites skilltree.
It doesn't come with any coherency toughness regen shit or any +X% coherency aura radius. Unlike the 4 original classes who all have skills partaining to coherency toughness.
Anonymous No.536400975 >>536401336
>>536397017
maybe but I heavily doubt it's more than inferno staff?
Anonymous No.536401336 >>536405461
>>536400975
Shriek and fire staff aren't mutually exclusive. Staff takes much longer to build to max burn stacks than you might expect, shriek puts a bunch of stacks on enemies by itself which massively increases your effective DPS against everything except bosses, because you no longer have a ramp-up. It also helps with peril management but that's honestly kinda secondary.
Anonymous No.536401525
>>536400062
They finally mastered creating talent trees. Most of all, it has only about 3 tax nodes. None of the "travel" nodes at the bottom for reaching different sections of the tree feel useless. They finally learned that no one picks coherency shit and so the tree is entirely devoid of it.
Anonymous No.536401923 >>536403530
>>536400062
>or any +X% coherency aura radius
That's because it has an entire aura node that creates a second coherency bubble on the dog.
>the 4 original classes who all have skills partaining to coherency toughness.
What fucks me up is that they placed them in the most retarded and inaccessible places, or directly opposite to good skills. If you're going to have shitty tax nodes, make those coherency.
I bet someone at fagshart is really autistically obsessed with the mechanic and refuses to realize that only retards build into it.
Anonymous No.536403530 >>536404072
>>536401923
>That's because it has an entire aura node that creates a second coherency bubble on the dog.
Fair, but there is none of those talent nodes themselves. Like how ogryn has Towering Presence and Lynchpin as skill nodes.
Arbites doesn't have any of this.
>coherency toughness is bad
I agree on this though.
And I do agree that someone at fatshark is really into the mechanic and thinks it's the bee's knees, but it really is not and it is really just badly designed mechanic/system over all.
Though also at this point in the game's life it is kind of obvious that the coherency toughness mechanic is more closer to a left over relic from the earlier days of the game when it was very different compared to now.
Anonymous No.536404072 >>536407568
>>536403530
I wouldn't say that coherency toughness is explicitly, strictly bad. It DOES function, and the numbers become pretty strong when you fully build into it. The problem is that it's never worth the opportunity cost, and that it stops working when you actually need it, on all classes except ogryn and maybe arguably zealot, but zealot has a much easier time generating its own toughness.
Hank may be a retard, and so is the ogrynomicon as a result, but I don't exactly agree with everyone shitting on it for shilling toughness regen. That's the least evil in the guide. Regenmaxxing on ogryn is genuinely helpful for bad/retarded players, which Hank is the embodiment of, so I would consider him an authority on how to survive while having a sub 70 IQ. I've used it a fair bit while I was still learning ogryn, and do think it makes an appreciable difference. It's just not worth the investment whatsoever once you actually know what you're doing.
Anonymous No.536404243 >>536404435 >>536404668 >>536405410
what's the consensus on Arbiter keystones?
have a hard deciding between Forceful and Execution Order
former has free monster damage and purple mark is really useful
Forceful seems like just unga bunga on shark testicle steroids
Anonymous No.536404307
>play event game
>someone cries in vc about dying to barrels and calls everyone retarded for shooting them (lol)
>start shooting them when he walks by
>wipe and get to hear him cry harder in vc
worth
Anonymous No.536404435
>>536404243
fug meant latter not former
Anonymous No.536404668
>>536404243
Execution Order is very likely the best one. CDR and crit are the important nodes, and every build that even wants to pretend to be good picks up Soulguilt Scan, so you're not taxed for taking it. Oh it also gives you fucking wallhacks, and makes dog builds noticeably stronger.
Terminus Warrant is dogshit, not just for taxing you points, but also for dumping obscene amounts of stacks just by cleaving through enemies. I love the idea of sharing toughness regen with a very top-heavy build, but it demands a retarded, ammo wasting playstyle.
Forceful is the comfy one. Center node gives you retarded amounts of toughness regen, left one has stun immunity which makes melee piss easy and objectives very safe, while the right node is bugged and stacks indefinitely with itself leading to hilarious attack speed if you can keep generating stacks (shock shotgun special rounds are insane at this btw). AV is extremely strong, but I honestly prefer taking only the 3 center nodes so I don't drop all my stacks whenever I BTL.
Anonymous No.536405410
>>536404243
>Execution Order
The wallhacks are excellent, you will always know where that sneaky Bomber and Trapper are running off to, and in Havocs this really comes in clutch. The CDR is overpowered (number 1 reason this keystone is so good), you can get BTL on an effective 6 second cooldown with it. The crit chance AND crit power are the chef's kiss, these two subnodes are mandatory. The Mk3 Exterminator already deals like 300 damage more per crit, imagine that with +25% crit power.
The other three subnodes are niche, but serve for specific builds or weapons (Crusher really likes the rending for example).
This is the keystone you want if you need your dog to be a menace. That +150% dog damage is no joke.
>Forceful
The +50% impact mostly only helps with ragers iirc. The 25% DR is awesome, the consistent attack speed and cleave are incredible, the 5% constant toughness regen is great, and the 25% strength is insane at melting bosses.
I'd say they're close, it depends on your playstyle.
Anonymous No.536405461 >>536405715
>>536401336
Shriek also applies those stacks in a very wide cone, and I guess pushing back enemies is a plus too.
Anonymous No.536405715 >>536406251
>>536405461
It's been fucking eons since I've played shriek, but doesn't it also have virtually infinite range, meaning you can knock over snipers that are a mile away and also set them on fire?
Anonymous No.536406251
>>536405715
I don't actually know if it has a maximum range, but it does set things on fire a long fucking distance away. Far beyond the maximum range of the flame staff.
Anonymous No.536406495 >>536406667
This event is obnoxious, my team is constantly turning into retards whenever the poxbursters show up
Anonymous No.536406667
>>536406495
Don't act like they weren't doing that already.
Events just draw exceptionally retarded players into them. You always get the dumbest motherfuckers possible. Think back to all of the boss spam events, and how many complete morons run builds with absolutely zero boss damage.
Anonymous No.536407568 >>536407867
>>536404072
Even then toughness regen speed isn't good with ogryn.
Like you said it gets instantly disabled the moment you actually need it.
Just by how the darktide melee system works, as soon as an enemy "calls dips" on one of your melee slots, it automatically stops your coherency toughness regen.
Same thing happens if you get hit by a ranged attack, and then you also now remember that Darktide just likes to randomly to spawn enemies right behind you as well, not something they come from a door behind but like the game literally spawns a poxwalker behind and then it smacks your ass.

Only times I can say that toughness regen from curios is good on ogryn is if you're using Steady Grip, but even then you do not need it. Especially more better you are at a game.
Anonymous No.536407636
>>536407606
>>536407606
>>536407606
new
Anonymous No.536407840
>>536375461
Fixed it. It's probably worse
Anonymous No.536407867
>>536407568
All of what you said is true, and I still think it's useful on ogryn, for no reason other than toughness attrition. With toughness regen on three curios, and some investment in the tree, you tend to out-regenerate random trash shooters that would otherwise be a pain to go and kill. This is useful for new and bad ogryn players, especially on lower difficulties where your tards will just stand around for no apparent reason, giving you no opportunity to whack enemies for more toughness.