Thread 535884132

Visual Novel General #7139

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1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
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4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

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Previous thread: >>535812195

>>535884132 (OP)
>best vinnie this
>best vinnie that
>{HE} joins the chat
>Maruto shivering
>R07 getting bullied
>Shimizu Hatsumi Smirking
>SCA-Ji doing it in his pants
>Narahara feeling betrayed

Recent VN releases:
>Mahou Shoujo no Majo Saiban
https://manosaba.com/
>Yadorishi Otome no Chikai to Mahou
https://www.ensemble-game.com/31.otochika/
>Homerarete Nobiru SR Shoujotachi
https://www.moon-stone.jp/product2/msc05/
>Unravel Trigger -Prelude to War- (append)
https://archive.nexton-net.jp/
>DeepOne -Ryoukai Shinpan-
https://nameless.nexton-net.jp/game/d2/
>Gals Fiction
https://gals-fiction.j-studio.net/
>Haison Shoujo [Ni] ~Kageri Sasou Hime no Hako~
https://www.escude.co.jp/product/haison2/top.html
>Stellar Code
https://fragaria.info/
>Onii-chan Continue!
https://pannomimi.net/panmimisoft

Upcoming VN releases:
>Kao no nai Tsuki - Matsuyoi no Soutsubaki (8/29)
https://aridesign.co.jp/root/nsmr/index.html
>Machine Child (9/5)
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/28992
>Amakano 3 (9/26)
https://azarashi-soft.nexton-net.jp/amakano3/
>Limelight Lemonade Jam (9/26)
https://www.yuzu-soft.com/products/lllj/index.html
>Nandome ka no Hajimemashite (9/26)
https://www.purplesoftware.jp/products/nh/
>Nonomura Byouin no Hitobito Remake (9/26)
https://www.fanzagames-digination.com/fgremake/nonomura_re/
>Ren'ai, Hajimemashite Mini Fandisc - Summer Vacation (9/26)
https://asa-pro.com/koihaji/sv/
>Reijuu no Seifuku (9/26)
http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/rs/index.html
>Da Capo Re:tune (10/30)
https://dcre.bushiroadgames.com/
>CRACK≡TRICK! (10/31)
https://crystalia.amusecraft.com/cratri/
>Bakappuru Supplement (10/31)
http://www.web-marmalade.com/products/b-couple/
>True Colors -memories of the abyss- (11/28)
https://mellow-soft.com/true-colors/
>Kousai Toshi (11/28)
https://key.visualarts.gr.jp/kinetic/augment_protocol/
>Dora Con Cafe 2 (11/28)
https://cuteuphoria.suki.jp/doraconcafe2/
>Neko-nin exHeart SPIN! 2 (11/28)
https://whirlpool.co.jp/nekonin-spin2/
>anemoi (1/30)
https://key.visualarts.gr.jp/anemoi/

A little bit of *light* into your life.

>Flowersge OP

It's been a very long time since last one of those... Flowersge is so good it's unreal T-T truly the pinnacle of the yuri media T-T

>>535884567
She flopped?

>>535884557
Total Vendetta Love

say aaaaaaa

>pretend boy friend
Kino?

>>535884864
are you saying the MC is the heroine's pretend boyfriend or are you saying the MC has a trap pretending to be his boyfriend?

post white meido

>>535884579
>truly the pinnacle of the yuri media
What other yuri media have you experienced?

>>530184214
>I know sister has, but I have zero interest in her
If I only knew... lol

>>535884670
>>535885091
VNs where you catch the flu and have soup spoonfed to you by a cute girl?

>>535885228
read your second jopge NOW

>>535885228
Yeah I didn't like her from the start either, pretty much the one big sore point in the game

>>535885175
>Here comes the choo choo train.

Vendetta getting rokuhara'd anytime now

>>535885642
cringe tbdesu

>>535885642
I think Makina will fall before Vendetta does. Besides, Rokuhara just got unleashed on Kimika. He's in his refractory period for now

>>535885642
kill yourself

>>535885553
I still don't like Miliarte, I was just pointing out the irony of this situation.

>>535885717
>>535885902
>>535885972
Ok rokuhara'd and pregnant

>>535885642
Kaigen needs to get Rokuhara'd too

I just vomit... i just barf... i just go GWAAA GWAAAA and throw up green stuff from my mouth... the Shiturashi mystery? is indeed shit... how can a writer answer all of the questions he presented in his story and the worst way possible... to all of them... not a single time i got a good answer... the question arc was fun because what was happening allowed lots of ways for the answers to go... but now that i go the answers? i just feel like i got cheated and the question arc was just fake... ,_,

>>535885018
>What other yuri media have you experienced?
Don't need to experience them now that i have tasted what the best taste tastes like~ *just found out that i really don't read or watch anything yuri because it was usually cringe for me and only Flowers really won my heart ,_,*

>>535886174
>Don't need to experience them now that i have tasted what the best taste tastes like
So much this.

Bakii~

I guess this is talking about chapter 1... why would sheep girl apologize to him that much? @_@ she got nothing to do with all of this... it's not like she is causing him the illness @_@ oh and not to forget, her being the "someone behind you" thingie is soooo vomit i puke i aaaaaaaaaaaaa what a shit plot... how is this fair???? @____@ how can this be answered by someone who only read the questions arc???? @_@_@ how??? no waaayyyyy! 0 hints... you can't even guess it... it's just BS!!! and am sure he didn't mean for that also just like with the doctor thingie...

Thoughts?

>>535887047
'ck and 'lls

>>535887047
I don't think about her at all. She's beneath my notice.

I prefer them long

>>535887047
Ridiculous design.

>>535887047
game?

https://x.com/kakeraSKY/status/1957855544112189592
https://www.keroq.co.jp/product/sora/chara.html
if we go by the image translation, TnS might be one of the worst translations to ever release. Sasuga kakera

>>535887286
Kedamono-tachi no Sumu Ie de ~Daikirai na Saitei Kazoku to Kanojo to no Netorare Doukyo Seikatsu~

>R07 trying to copy Narahara's chuuni

a 4.5/10 ge writer trying to copy a 7/10 ge writer... i feel sad for him~ V-V

>>535887347
>Netorare
Gross, no thanks.

>>535887409
>4.5
4.5
>4.5
4.5
>4.5
4.5
>4.5
4.5
>4.5
4.5
>4.5
4.5

>>535887286
Swedish marmalade

>>535887331
Makinasissy...

>>535887331
Why? Please explain

>>535887047
She won so hard...

VN with goth heroine?

>R07 hates white people and call them barbarians

I guess this is why Redditors and Xors love him... i wouldn't have minded this but he must be also including Americans in this comment... this is very wrong @_@

>>535887751
I gave you a link with the text. do the rest yourself

JOPs won.
>b-but y
They won.

>>535888068
Won what?

>>535887519
Bakappuru Supplement?
https://vndb.org/v52031
Something else by Marmalade?
https://vndb.org/p391

>>535888159
a pet monkey. VNs for this feel?

>>535888003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACGSiN3ZkI

>>535888003
wtf I love r07 now???

>>535888281
>a pet monkey
HFK

R07 really did the fumble of the century with this guy's plot... ,_,

>>535888159
the wasted-a-year award

>>535888680
>wasted

>>535887047
Many have been saying that she won?
Can you confirm?

>>535888435
he was robbed

>open /vg/ catalog
>search "/vn"
>top results are for 2D H games and TF2
no, really, why the FUCK is this allowed?

>>535888917
I can only confirm one person saying this and replying to himself.

>>535888954
You're supposed to search for "shitposting"

>>535888954
I still dunno why it does that on visual novels or /vn

>>535889065
it worked wtf

>>535888954
/vn/ is the /trash/ of /vg/

>>535889095
There's a thing in /hgg2d/'s op that points to us for visual novels

>>535889095
Because one of the links in the TF2 OP post contains a /vN

>>535889065
lmao it works

What do you guys think of Mahou Shoujo no Majo Saiban also was it a success in japan?

YuriKINO won.

Huh. I guess Akiha's a vampire. Or maybe they just want us to think that? Saying that collapsed Akiha resembles Yumizuka felt a little too on the nose to me. Anyway, Nasu, how can you write two VNs in quick succession with characters who kill people to satiate their bloodlust while sleepwalking? Knowing that the idea wasn't original makes Heaven's Feel seem a lot weaker in hindsight.

>>535889065
the true subject

>>535889354
I hovered

ブヒ

>>535889236
>also was it a success in japan?
Seems popular. Looks successful on Steam and there's a ton of fanart.

>>535889236
It is a success only in japan, as no other version exists atm. And not being a yuri game because yuri is shit

>>535888917
I'm afraid it to be like that

>>535889542
>as no other version exists
Nah, it released with a Chinese TL.

Mahou saiban is goin to gather the toxic yuri fans thanks to the way it is written because yuri bait sells more than actual yuri VN

>>535888758
A whole year just to expand the available media?
Or did you get something else out of learning Japanese?

>>535889937
>just to expand the available media
lol

>>535889937
I got job security from it.

Mahou Shoujo no Inshuu Mura seems to be in same series as saiban so it seems like they are going to make it a series it looks like the developers have gound gold mine

What's a VN for the feel when there's a bunch of irritating insect bites across your body

>>535890190
Anonymous;Code

>>535889997
Stop being vague.
>>535890058
I thought they were just about full on teachers and translators, because of all us weebs?
Do you work with Japanese businesses or something?
You'd still need other useful accredited skills to begin with, and some of us don't have those.

>>535890148
The ending implied that there would be another game

>>535889354
Spoilers for you so don't hover.
now im curious how this was presented since I can't remember if it was Akiha having these dreams or still Shiki or what was the case there
>idea
Nasu keeps writing the same characters. KnK had a victim girl like that too except better because she killed to stop some phantom pain resulting from rape iirc and was in a more realistic ptsd or some kinda shock phase where she refused to look at reality or desynced from herself, can't remember now
>original
the scene with Shiki following Arcueid home is based on a real event. The guy was a japanese celebrity for a while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa
>At the age of 24, while attending Wako University in Tokyo, Sagawa followed a tall German woman home, and then broke into her apartment while she was sleeping. Sagawa's intention was to cannibalize her by slicing off part of her buttocks and sneaking away with a small part of her flesh, but she awoke and, according to Sagawa, thwarted his attack and pushed him to the ground.

>>535890148
They have some more unannounced stuff too. Who knows if they can keep up the quality though

>>535890148
>>535890336
>series
>open ending
interest instantly lost. welp.

>>535890418
what the fuck
lmao

>>535889937
>Or did you get something else out of learning Japanese?
I get told to go back to /jp/

>>535889236
I think it would have been rated lower in japan if the new japanese actually read through danganronpa since a lot of elements were taken from that game.

It is insane how for many japanese this will be there first VN

>>535890418
>resulting from rape
yep that's nasu alright lol

>>535890418
>Unarmed white woman beats Japanese man with a knife

Sex with lolis

>>535888917
many are confirming this

>>535890280
>Do you work with Japanese businesses or something?
I work for a Fortune 500 company, that happens to have a Japanese branch office. I occasionally talk to people there, or am called upon to update Japanese I18N sometimes. It's not a huge part of my job and I'd still have the job without knowing some Japanese, but having the extra skill makes me harder to justify firing.

>>535890556
Hibiki, my beloved anal queen

It came to my mind... i thought about a scene of Akasaka coming to help Rika and seeing one of the guys from before again... guess it might still happen @_@

>>535854831
because of this pic I'm now paranoid of flats

>>535890801
embrace booba

The guy who recommended me to read untranslated vn with Luna did good job I have some knowledge of japanese and with luna my learning speed is Increasing very fasy now.

In a one or two year I will convert to JOP

>>535890556
Now give me a loli wearing Ottoman Janissary clothing!

So this is the answer of our main question... the 1st and biggest mystery of Shiturashi... i guess we do be calling it that for a reason ,_, the anon who told me to read it because it is a big part of the vn culture? the one who cursed me for not reading it yet? i think you are the biggest dum-dum i have ever seen in this general and you should be ashamed of yourself for lying like this to other anons :)

a

>>535890556
A child

>>535890418
wait nvm, got the phantom pain wrong a bit
>At the climax of the story, Mikiya revealed that he learned that Fujino had a terminal case of appendicitis, causing her abdominal pain, and Touko concluded that she had actually killed the wielder of the knife before he stabbed her. What caused her to seek revenge was a misunderstanding.
She regained her sense of pain when one of the guys assaulting her hit her spine causing her to misunderstand the knife that followed
Nasu used to write some really good stuff before Fate.

>>535890556
looks like Corona Chan.

>>535890545
Insane how japanese audience has become so similar to western audience

>>535891126
bleh

So this is the answer of our main question... the 1st and biggest mystery of Shiturashi... i guess we do be calling it that for a reason ,_, the anon who told me to read it because it is a big part of the vn culture? the one who cursed me for not reading it yet? i think you are the biggest dum-dum i have ever seen in this general and you should be ashamed of yourself for lying like this to other anons :)

>>535890494
>open ending
Not really, it's conclusive for all the characters. They just left open the possibility of reusing the premise in new games.

>>535890584
seething_jealousy.gif

>>535890545
reading through some impressions of the game some of the people that like it also played dangan though

TRTR won

>>535891175
>i think you are the biggest dum-dum i have ever seen in this general and you should be ashamed of yourself for lying like this to other anons :)
truth nuke

>>535891427
It also has trials and mascot too also the way character go insane reminds me of danganronpa

Imagine being the only male in an all-girls Catholic school...

>>535891849
Tretorare

>R07slop eater: "HFKKKKKKK KIIINOOOOOO PEAAAKKKK (and other zoomzoom slang)"
>ABkangs and Flowersisters (smartest anons ITT): "Camonn Dawwwg, who wrote this shit?"

Imagine being gay.

>>535891870
Yeah I know they're similar, but considering there's a bunch of reviews and impressions mentioning it, it's not just people that don't know about dangan that are giving it positive scores.

>>535892005
Zakobros...

Something is wrong with Kohaku. I think she's going to be evil. No, I am *confident* that she's evil. Her and Hisui both have brought up Shiki's backstory regarding the third child multiple times now, but while Hisui seems to do it out of concern or even affection for Shiki, I don't get that vibe from Kohaku at all. She's ragebaiting Shiki, if you will. Also, Kohaku is the one who makes all of Shiki's medicines and meals. How easy would it be for her to add some sort of drug or something, given that many chances to do so? I'm onto you, woman... Your kimono-meido outfit is ridiculous...

>>535891870
We are greatly anticipating the manosaba english translation. I will buy in on Switch, the only system I buy vns.

Alicesoft has four months to release something new but I know they won’t because the gacha is making them millions

>>535892567
>Alicesoft has four months to release something new
lol

>>535886705
He turned the assholery up to a hundred and she will not crack lmao. Now all that's left is to admit that he was responsible for the kidnapping and still be forgiven

>>535892005
Bros? is that even possible?

>>535892567
>making them millions
Is it though

Zako

>>535892665
Nope, the smallest dick is 20cm.

>>535892614
They wrote in their blog that they will release something new but they won’t

Good thing she knows @_@

>>535892839
Don't be so quick to doubt. You'll just get another short NTR nukige.

>>535892713
The beat gacha has come out top on fanza sometimes even if not monthly it is very likely earning them millions on yearly basis otherwise alicesoft would have gone bankrupt already maintaining the voice actor , server , employee cost

>>535892779
Yappa?

>>535893048
I hope the release a good nukige like tsumamugui 3 but even that seems impossible

>>535892665
Hard? It's pretty big but nothing crazy, really

SEE??? that's why he needed to be the culprit!!!! @____@ the shock would have been soooo big in everyone... instead we get the "ohhh... it's them? yah they do be seeming to be doing what they might be doing"

where's the anon who only reads nukige?

>>535893413
I still never find out what that ge is

>>535889529
Hey, guys. Let's do a thought experiment... What if you were the cutest little boar Itaru ever drew? What would you do all day while Kyou was away at school? I think it would be really fun to roll around in the mud behind Kyou's house on a rainy day, but if it gets too cold, it would be nice to sprawl out in front of the heater too. Let's all practice our oinks and hope to some day be reincarnated as a blessed anime piggie. Say it with me, "Buhi, buhi!"

>>535893365
>easily used
>too good
uhhh

>>535893705
kek

Mahou saiben also seems to have a manga adaptation this seems like good time to establish a loyal fanbase for acacia
https://anilist.co/manga/195332/Mahou-Shoujo-no-Majo-Saiban

>>535893705
Genuinely looks good

>>535893705
kek

>>535893705
>rokuhara in his weakest moment

>>535893705
lmao

>>535893705
>this image
>this ost
wtf
i need to read this

predictions what screenshot 8000 will be?

>>535893705
What is origin behind rokuhara posting this guy has like 20-40 minutes of screentime in original

>>535893705
bretty good
there area few artifacts

>>535894239
He has like 10

>>535894235
Real Death of vn industry

>>535893705
KEK

Ooishi-sama... soo smarrtt and coool and muscularrr T____T he can easily solve the red john case T_______T

>>535890801
They're not exactly flat though.

>>535894490
I have a red john just for you ABdul

>>535894239
his infamous quote
this image
and the fact a moebuta used to avatarfag as him to make fun of plotge
so he started editing the waifu of said moebuta (karen) with the scientist

>>535894573
jopGOD...

He is dying, isn't he... noooooooo ,_____, DON'T KILL HIMMMM ,________,

>>535894261
thanks

>>535893840
kyute Ema-chan
Their next game doesn't look to be related by the way.

Shiki, KYS!!! Making your sister cry... Unacceptable...

>>535895276
but if you kiss your sister she might get pregnant

T___________________________________________________________________________________________________T

>>535895471
Why are you still playing it though

>>535895471
>Ugh Ooooh
he monke

>"if evil... why so hot" V-V

>>535895550
Am leaving soon stop getting annoyed at me ,_,

>>535885642 (Me)
>>535893705
>>535894746
Love you retard, probably your hardest edit yet

>>535895747
Don't leave...

>>535895747
nooo never leave us

>>535893534
I want to be reincarnated as Kotomi's socks!

I did say that the person who is after Rika might be someone who wants to face her powers with his own powers... i think this is the closest thing to my words @_@

>>535895856
The rest of us would rather be any random pair of red bloomers but there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

Any fighting lesbian rivals in VNs besides Bernkastel and Lambdadelta?

>>535895790
>only one (you)

>>535895790
>four (You)s

Don't tell me this is going to go like "Home Alone"... don't think a hack like R07 can write like the KINO American writer @_@

>>535896097
Where's the fun in such a boring answer? You need to be innovative to get ahead in life. And besides, Kotomi is exempt from PE classes in the first place.

>>535893413
I'm starting to wonder if he isn't actually schizo at all. The therapist saying there's nothing technically wrong with him just now (despite clearly knowing something about the "headaches"), the fact that he implied he knew he was responsible for the kidnapping, and what he just said here about turning off his emotions. But then I can't really explain his history and interactions with Usami... If Maou is just an alter ego he knowingly adopts to feel less guilt about the things he does, why would he purposely choose the worthless stocks for the ransom when that runs counter to the goal of relieving his debt? And why would Maou waste his time playing pointless games with Usami? I will have to ponder this further. Love the music in this scene btw

>>535896119
Yes

>>535896429
That's not a nukige.

>>535896514
Kek oops
>>535896429
>>535892643

>"My slave who got NTRed by my mom? come and pick us up, we all staying near my yakuza boss of a father house~"

How hard could that have been for Shion just to call that guy and ask him to be there... her family? they must own some place close to them, and they will be waaaaaay safer there... but i guess R07 just want to force miscarriage the plot...

>>535895790
Thanks retardbro.
Just one more before going to bed.

>>535897043
>forcefully impregnates the plot
>later forcefully miscarriages the plot
what is rword07's endgame

>force miscarriage the plot
Who talks like this

>>535897172
KINO

>>535897273
>Who talks like this
AI

>>535897172
He is literally me

>>535897273
good prose writers

>R07 legit stole from American KINO "Home Alone"

The hack did it... how dare he V-V

>>535897172
K i n o
i
n
o

>>535897172
You woke up feeling pretty inspired today, Thanks for the laughs bro

What's so great about Natsume? Isn't kurokami basically like vanilla ice cream in Japan?

Let me guess... she gets picked up and then Rika get forced to go back to them so they let Satoko go... ,_,

>>535898560
>vanilla ice cream
What about the only good flavour of ice cream?

>>535897172
I want a strong man like Rokuhara to manhandle me.

Rika... where is the whole "IDC~" persona... where is the +100 years grandma... R07... hack...

>>535898751
men can't be manhandled

Why are there like 3 different Makinaposters

>>535898631
Screenshot (8000) is Sextoko

>misclicked the choicess and i don't know what i picked

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ,_,

At this point, just namefag. I know you want to do it.

>>535899046
>misclicked the choicess and i don't know what i picked
Just like real life

>>535898751
This is probably the best piece of Makina art out there. The body lines are really well done.

>POWWAAAA OFFFUU FRIENDDDUUSHIPPPUUU

Am gutting R07, aren't i...

Akiha is such an angel...

Funa!
https://x.com/namaniku_ATK/status/1957449271642354139/photo/1

>Japan's most secret special forces couldn't detect 4 kids hiding behind the house of their biggest objective that they were preparing for in the last 5 years with more than +20 units present

It's either R07 is Rworded, or he just hates Japan, or Japan really did lose the war because they were bad

>>535899520
all 3 are true

>>535899237
Only needs a tan to achieve perfection

>>535898880
It's ma'am

>>535899381
cute smol Muramasa

>two 9 years olds, a boy who is weaker than them, Rena is Rena, Mion who traind under Rambo, Shion who was in Flowersge school
>vs
>6 special opratives from the strongest secret Japanese special forcess

R07... what type of kids do you think your characters are? ,_,

>>535900018
EVN tier writing

>>535899381
Sex with Huna!

>getting strangled by Shitoko

WHAT IS HAPPENING

>>535900018
this is supposedly the ""best mysteryge"" according to some people lol

>>535899923
What the heck

Even EVN writer have some shame to not write an unrealistic scene like this...

A requirement of being a "good mystery" is not to have any supernatural shit in it. If you are truly smart then make it a realistic mystery

it's a terrible month to be a r07 fan

>>535899923
who took the pic?

>>535900579
thermonuclear truth

this whole scene... why... am too tired to even say anything just finish this chapter already

>>535900579
Because you said so?

>>535900664
my girl friend

seek help

seek and destroy

>>535901003
Weren't you Syrian or something...

>R07 trying to copy Flowersge

You shall not passsss *American KINO movie from American KINO book*

delta squad move out

Satoshi... he knew something... or just needed to go beacue of schizo... @_@

>>535901191
What skin color do you think Syraniggas have?

>>535901415
I've heard it was green or blue.

>>535899923
>>535901003
Det, go to bed

What anime should I watch

>>535901763
sora no oto

>>535901763
Naruto

>>535901763
Rozen Maiden

>>535901763
Parasyte

>>535901763
Boogiepop Phantom

>>535902210
>>535901981
>>535901961
>>535901893
>>535901814
Does this have BL?

How nice! ,_,

>>535902319
Just read a chuunige bro.

>>535900993
Not that guy but if you use supernatural bullshit in your mystery then there is no audience participation. Supernatural explanations can be basically anything, so the audience will never be able to deduce anything.

https://litter.catbox.moe/uwpv9u9tgtkp1o32.mp4
ABKang

>>535902401
As long as the ground-rules for what is possible are established, I don't see the issue. I'd generally avoid making statements like "x thing can NEVER work" because they're rarely true. Just because you haven't personally seen it done doesn't mean it's inherently impossible or something.

>>535902763
Cutemika

>>535902763
twizzlermika

EVN EVN EVN EV EVN

Best girl.

Should I play nukitashi

Sooo... chapter 8 is about sheep girl being with us this time... wow... i really don't care @_@ am so not hyped... there are some small things left... but i lost interest in the whole ge since the nothingburger chapter 6... wow... R07 is the worst writer i have ever seen...

>>535903587
shit taste desu

>>535903587
>R07 is the worst writer i have ever seen...
Didn't you say it's Nasu

>>535903507
Henpri next

>>535903587
I'll accept umimeko slander but keep your whore mouth off of higurashi

>>535903587
chapter 8 is the most rworded piece of shite, brace yourself

>Chapter 7 ED

This time it's white instead of black... what a happy ending ^_^

>>535903507
Do it for her.

>>535903740
just because you were impressed by it as a teen doesn't mean it's good

>>535903587
>R07 is the worst writer i have ever seen...
it do be like the do be the that
>>535903681
it also be like that as well

>>535903587
Chapter 8 only works if you really really like the characters that you're willing to let any stupid thing pass

Does the blue in nukitashi get hit by a truck in the vn too

>>535901763
texhnolyze

Weiirrddd... they let MC live in chapter 3... and also.. i think this was talking about the place Akasaka tried to get into in chapter 6 ending... @_@

>>535903681
Am so tired i made this mistake... i apologize, yes Hacksu is still #1 now and forever

For the love of God, Shiki, please stop raping people... This is ridiculous. Rape is illegal. I thought he was only going to do it to Arc, the obvious vampire, but no, he's just raping everybody...

>>535903507
Try it. If you find it funny, then yes. If you don't like the humor drop it and play Hentai Prison. Either way, play Hentai Prison.

>>535904350
why stay up to 5am playing a kusoge every day

So it was this guy who might have influenced blond...

>>535904482
Yaaah am soon sleeping instead of starting chapter 8~ R07 is this hacky~

>>535903587
You are only 17 years old, you know nothing

Now that i think about it... how did Ooishi and other police never get the illness when they were always in the village... @_@

>>535904996
>a literal baby is smarter than rword07bros
Sad!

I have higurashi fatigue.

where's the デカ尻 games?

>>535904012
Yea

@_@

>>535906136
something about this design smells like used goods

>>535906182
She had to get the funding somehow

>>535901763
Monogatari

>>535901763
Gasaraki

>>535906182
,_,

>>535906496
My god... That patch... She's Ukrainian!

>>535906596
kek

>>535906440
Nobody on /vn/ has the attention span to survive the bread tax shit

Thank you anons for your input I've watched all of those anime(Monogatari is my favorite series). I will now watch Kore wa Zombie

>>535906496
did nothing wrong

there is a tip left and R07 rwroded comments and 2 choices that add little bit of text... am too tired to bother i've been reading for too much and my IQ is leaving my body... bad story EVN bad writer making me dum-dum... i can't,,, i hate this... am going to sleep ,_, goon dight ,_,

>>535906953
thousand cock gaze

>>535906970
Sleep well

>>535906970
Good night friend. Never leave us.

I thought the part with k1 getting shot was kino

>>535905757
Need new pork NOW!!!

Why do we have a /bant/ thread

>>535908291
why not

>cleaning out hard drive
>pic related HASMR
I forgot I had this

>>535896429
Cutebaki. Period.

>>535908659
long and meaty

>>535908612
Where she from

Oh hey there's one the other heroines too

We have a devil on g string blogposter and anon didn't tell me?

>>535909041
Asairo

>>535909707
KEK

I sure hope you guys don't do this.

>>535909762
>>535909707
Not laugh, didn't funny.

More yuzus should give rimjobs

More yuzus should have penises

>>535910125
LOL

>>535908801
Kyousuke giving a speech to appeal to Gonzou's humanity only to be ignored and called a faggot was great. Gonzou acquiesced weirdly readily to the police threat, but maybe that's just his weird way of showing his satisfaction/pride in Kyousuke using his own power to get the upper-hand on him.

>>535910114
Tenshi Souzou futa size ranking:
Kurumi > Noa > Orie > Fumika > Kaguya > Amane

Lapcian for the love of god die already and call for bankruptcy.

Gyaru are fake white women.

>VN has config for USB onaho
If only I had one

>>535911286
If not all age they will just go for gacha games instead tho

>>535911556
Holy technology

>standing completely unscathed within the the
Found a typo.

Imagine FD about young Botan...

>>535911863
Good luck breaking in to the already oversaturated gacha market.

>>535910341
Finished Tsubaki's route. This conversation where they talked about what happened during the 4 year time-skip was really unnatural lol. Ch 3 and Kanon next if I understand the ladder right.

pitslut spotted

>>535913154
She can't just spread her pheromones like that....

Is Fraternite ever gonna get translated? I keep hearing it's really fucked up so I wanna read it. Should I just try machine translation?

Moe for the butas. Plot for the kings.
And for chuuni, HFK.
Tonight, /vn/ thirsts for kamige.

>>535913347
Never because it depicted a certain privileged folk in bad light.

>>535914490
Dammit. Can I get away with machine translation?

Got a pretty standard party here.

>>535915029
Nope. You might get hunted down by THEM.

plotge is not kamige. moege won

>>535913347
Scatshit will never get translated

>>535915360
I mean is it readable or not
>>535915978
I already read Euphoria

rude pointing elf.

>>535884132 (OP)
Literally me reading muramasa.
This shit is soo ass.

>>535916371
uminegro sis...

>>535916174
Nope.

>>535916324
Do not point at me

thinking about oyakodon

>>535916371
Same, it's all downhill from the prologue.

>>535916371
>Literally me reading muramasa.
Same, Muramasa is so good that after reading it in the day I reread it in my dreams.

>>535916371
We don't call it midmasa for nothing.

>>535916371
everyone says this

>>535917015
This but with shota mc

>>535916371
>I look at him.
>And he looks at me.
>And I look at him.
>And he looks at me.
>AND I LOOK AT HIM
>AND HE LOOKS AT MEEEEEEE

Is Nie No Hakoniwa any good?
Thought it would be some period japan murder mystery with some sex scene but from what I read it seems to be gorefes with mid story instead...

>>535918164
The story is kinda fun. The h-scenes are great anyways so you should read it.

>>535918164
Apparently the character writing and interactions are really good until the big last-half-of-the-game arc happens, at which point the two main characters devolve into extremely flat caricatures and it does in fact become a gorefest. It's really a shame.

>>535918228
Guess I should try.
Should have bought Pentiment when it got discounted...

>>535918335
Yeah guess I would try it. At least the art seems nice.

>>535918335
>It's really a shame
Not really, Kurou going around doing his thing was fun to see.

>>535918082
the sword autism was part of the sovl. kageaki vs the bandit woman was a hell of a fight.

>>535912602
Just realized Tsubaki was the only heroine I didn't even bother doing her route lmao. At least the sister has pseudo-incest appeal and the tsundere has best girl aka her sister.

>>535918498
no matter what retards say that was pure kino and one of the best fights

>>535918498
>kageaki vs the bandit woman was a hell of a fight.
I wish they'd have fought in bed... but NTRhara doesn't like nice things.

>>535918082
Kamige

>>535904425
Hot.

>>535918082
This shit got old really fast, especially since 9/10 fights end with Kageaki using his Railgun anyways, making all of the "tactical" combat redundant.

>>535904425
The reason why I believe Nasu is a woman.

>>535919207
read slower next time

>>535888954
https://4ch.vg/vn/

>>535919207
The only fights that are really like that is the intro battle, Kageaki vs Mizuhi and Kageaki vs Shishiku. If you can't appreciate Sorimachi, Masamune vs the monk, and the true route Ginseigo battle you have no soul.

>>535910341
Loved that scene, Gonzou showing some humanity. You did her bad end too, right? the wonders of that archetype and corruption

>>535918761
it's the best route in the game, only Kanon comes close.

The writing in muramasa is just so goofy and cheesy. Is this how read chuunige is usually written?

I mean for example that scene where kageaki appears behind a soldier who has just killed someone and leans in closer to his ear to say "you're guilty", or that another scene where a femboy throws a fetus in ichijo's face and holds her accountable to the death of someone who slipped down stairs
I mean I am not even finding fault with its philosophy or themes. The way scenes are written feel so goofy and cheesy at the same time.
>inb4 uminegro
I didn't even read it beyond chapter 2 and I don't care about it.

>>535919483
Woah. How does this act when there's multiple threads up though?

>>535919638
Basically whatever is first on the catalog.

>virgin succubus
What's the point...

>>535919703
Did you buy your bed used?

>>535919621
nothing else in the game is as silly as the fetus shit so idk why you are pretending the whole thing is like that lol

>>535919703
Everyone loves pure sluts

>>535919621
It's a shonen in VN form.

Will Amakano 3 be good? I put all my stocks into meido

>>535919703
death by sex when she gets her first taste of semen and inevitably overdoes it

>>535919765
I have not read the whole thing. There are a lot of goofy+cheesy scenes in ichijo's route. Is the true route like this too?

let's all be honest, umineko was always way better without question. the jops overrated the fuck out of shitmasa.

>>535919919
It will be the final kamige

>>535919925
incredibly kino

>>535919946
there's plenty of funny gag scenes but no, there's no silly shit like the fetus thing in otherwise serious scenes

>>535919946
>Is the true route like this too?
Yeah. Shit gets ridiculous in a chuuni way.

>>535919919
>Will Amakano 3 be good
Probably.
>Meido
All signs point to her being garbage considering she's the ugliest girl and has the most boring personality.

>>535919703
It's her first job so please be gentle with her...

>>535919919
I doubt it's better than Hundred Line

>>535919919
It'll be just as bland and boring as previous amakanos

>>535919950
I can't imagine 07 writing anything good.
Not after seeing the blogposts of shiturashi.

>>535919919
Yeah, if you like moege.

>>535921029
Read it yourself instead of forming opinion based on the posts of a low functioning autisty

>>535921119
Too small

>>535919703
Stupid girlfail succubi are the best kind.

>>535921170
I read the screenshots, they look stupid enough.
Certainly no masterful mystery kino.

>>535921264
>girlfail
How can someone who looks like THAT be girlfail?

Will we ever get another agpkino like rance 03 this year?

>>535921614
The pink is a redflag

>>535921816
What does agp mean Accelerated Graphics Port ?

>>535921574
>masterful mystery kino.
do you have any example of this?

>>535922250
Auto Gyno Philia
sexual arousal from imagining themselves as a woman

>>535919621
There's plenty of chuuni shit but the writing never gets as retarded as the fetus scene, that was definitely the low point of the entire VN. If Narahara wanted to get the point across that the blind pursuit of justice will inevitably put innocents in the crossfire or that even villainous people have good in them, he could've gone about it infinitely less retarded ways. I don't even get why the justice duo was so shaken up about it, because the natural, obvious response would be that the concubine was evil for supporting and abetting a psychopathic rapist murderer and that her death was (literally) her fault alone.

>>535921816
>rance 03
>agpkino
Explain

>>535922312
Ooe

>>535922250
Autogynephilia

>>535922427
There are a lot of hot H scenes from the perspective of heroines getting dicked. It's also easy to self insert as heroines in normal scenes too cause rance barely has any internal thoughts. The fact that rance is extremely hot makes it easy to self insert as heroines during H scenes.

>>535922427
There's basically a whole character and their subplot that was removed from the EN release because they couldn't get the rights for something really small, stupidly, but in that Rance genderbends and he gets off to himself as a girl

>>535921170
You don't need his commentary to see how retarded the game looks from the screenshots
Mystery with supernatural elements sucks too

>>535922380
>the justice duo was so shaken up about it
Masamune was very dumb and simple black-and-white fag so he was easily broken when he was gaslit into thinking that he caused an innocent child(which was a vision of purest good in his mind)'s death. IIRC Ichijou herself didn't care that much after initial shock and ended up going "I did what I had to do" on the retard kid who was obviously fucking the priest on the sideline judging from true route.

>>535922610
>>535922313
What causes this mental illness?

>This is the girl that led the raid by the Republic and killed the Empire's strongest soldiers
cute

>>535923013
cringe

>>535922959
that's a billion dollar question bro

>>535922959
fatherless

>>535922759
I knew there was going to be a point where his black and white ideals are challenged, but I thought it'd be something more relatable and not so immediately flawed. The story kept emphasizing how destructive his abilities are, so I though there was going to be a moment where their attacks end up killing a random innocent during battle instead of a death that is several degrees of separation between them

>>535922610
this makes no sense. why would you want to think about a man's thoughts during sex? you're supposed to come up with your own thoughts while enjoying the girls reaction to (You) fucking her. reading male internal dialogue during sex is so fucking gay

>>535923013
moe-plot hybrids are the worst of both worlds

>>535923210
>instead of a death that is several degrees of separation between them
That was the point though, that even killing le evil can cause consequences like that indirectly. they just chose a retarded example for some reason

>>535923248
>why would you want to think about a man's thoughts during sex?
I didn't say I want that. I want more H scenes from the pov of heroines. I've gooned so much to that kanami ethot scene.

>>535922959
Idk I have always been like this since I was 12

>>535923386
>killing le evil can cause consequences like that indirectly
You can show any act that ain't killing to have indirect consequences like that too. Just cause C is a consequence of B doesn't mean B is "objectively" responsible for C. Attributing responsibility is normative and is a huge philosophical conundrum in and of itself. Otherwise you can blame everything on big bang and absolve everyone of guilt.

>>535923620
Nigga how old are you?

>>535922380
He did do it with Doushin but everyone forgets the scenes where he was a beloved leader that put people first. People don't even understand he's saving the princess with the rape. You overestimate the average person if you think he drove the point too hard.

>>535923386
That's a really stupid way to view things.
It can absolutely happen, but the scale of consequences is immensely different.
The real evil people (billionares, politicians) cause so many deaths every day, the pseudo-random negative consequences are a blip in comparison.
And there could be unseen *positive* consequences too.
Real life doesn't run on karma or "law of balance".

Doushin is so fucking cool

>>535923983
19
How does that matter?

>>535923793
Are you retarded? Killing a father has a direct impact on the child, it's my contrived whatsoever - you sound like you'd argue pain isn't the consequence of you punching them.
The point was consequences like the other guy says but the simple fact the world isn't black and white and someone evil to you is not evil to another

>>535924389
>>535924028
So this is the IQ of mememasa retards
No wonder you guys think muramasa is the most philosophically important work of all time.

>>535924289
zoom

>>535924131
>pseudo-random
it's meant to be in relation to the impact on people that were close to him because the travelling guy's idea that muramasa took was that everyone could be seen as good or evil depending on the side. it's just a silly example in that scene with the tripping down the stairs shit, but the idea they were going for is not random at all

>>535924541
Obsessed

You need high IQ to fully appreciate Muramasa to its fullest.

Caveman VN with primal thick bush sex?

>>535925069
why do you want to fuck a plant

>>535925098
All the bees can't be wrong.

>>535924389
>Killing a father has a direct impact on the child
Ichijo encouraging those kids only for them to get killed at least seems like a direct impact even if the scene was written in a shallow way. This trap fetus shit is just too contrived to take seriously. The mother falling down stairs by being careless.

>The point was consequences like the other guy says but the simple fact the world isn't black and white and someone evil to you is not evil to another
I don't think any justicefag thinks they're absolute good from the perspective of everyone, even those aligned with the interests of those they call evil so I am not really sure who narahara wanted to strawman in that route. The battle of ideas would've been more kino if the characters were even a little bit more complex and smart. The way they get shaken up by obvious shit is more annoying than kino.

>>535925217
>The battle of ideas would've been more kino if the characters were even a little bit more complex and smart. The way they get shaken up by obvious shit is more annoying than kino.
In the case of ichijou at least it makes sense because she's a middle schooler, why the fuck does kageaki behaves like a dumb redditor

>>535925329
try not being born retarded in your next life

>>535925529
Jeetbro, I don't believe in reincarnation.

>>535925638
kek and then you result to insulting my ethnicity, truly out of arguments

>>535924541
They do be like that. I realized it was a non-serious work when the bandit rape happened.

>>535924028
>he was a beloved leader that put people first
What? Being a rokuhara general by default puts him at odds with the people, even if he is the most well rounded of the 4 (which isn't saying much)

>>535925638
I was trying to give you hope in having a non-retarded life, seems you've accepted the path of eternal retardation though. Sad!

>>535924289
Are you on hrt, zoomer bro?

>>535925839
A what general?

>>535921816
Just play other rance game to self insert as the females

>>535926025
I forgot this character existed.

Some of y’all need to improve your media literacy skills.

>>535926198
Will it result in me having more fun?

>>535903587
ABkun your ramblings have become more repetitive than R07's prose.
Ep 8 has some chuni action bits for ya, and then you promised to stop posting and read your third vn in private didn't ya? R07 might have its probs but putting innocentgrey stuff beautiful as it may be with their incredibly pathetic detective MC (Catagra anyone?) and their stereotypical mystery on a pedestal just goes to show your bad taste and lack of experience.

>>535926198
>media literacy
Meme buzzword only used by trannies
you don't agree with what the writer preaches? Muh media literacy
you don't think the storytelling is not done in an effective manner? Muh media literacy
you hate a popular work? Muh media literacy
you disagree with me? Muh media literacy

>>535926410
meds

>>535925217
>I don't think any justicefag thinks they're absolute good from the perspective of everyone, even those aligned with the interests of those they call evil so I am not really sure who narahara wanted to strawman in that route
Take a moment to think about religion, age of consent, criminals whining about getting too many years etc.
Its not even a case of thinking about being the absolute good or the pov of others - people simply don't. People accept that they're right as a fact, the idea of considering someone "evil" might not have been doesn't cross their mind. Muramasa illustrated it with Doushin already - rape? Omg evil.

There is no battle of ideas in muramasa, it's very clearly showing how dumb and flawed the justice/revenge/peace ideas are in reality.
>fetus
Pretty sure the point was to show how irrational the view of someone as "evil" was because the kid who came to take revenge viewed ichijou as evil despite her not having much to do with the accident. The "my boss is a piece of shit because he doesn't pay me more and because of that I can't enjoy life" approach. The boss isn't evil, the idea of someone being evil and absolute justice existing is just retarded.

>>535926025
Nyotaimori (女体盛り, 'serve (foods) on the female body'), often referred to as "body sushi", is the Japanese practice of serving sashimi or sushi from the naked body of a woman.

>>535926593
Thank you Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

>>535926025
Are other games as agp friendly? I've only played 03 because it has voices and I've enjoyed it.

>>535925897
No but I've considered it for hrt femboy reasons. I just don't like the fact that your dick will die as a side effect. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and take it before I hit the twink death.

>>535926410
This individual right here is a prime example of one lacking in media literacy skills. Now go back to reading middle school level chapter books my young son.

>>535903587
He's shallow and pedantic. A trite writer.

>>535926198
You mean the buzzword people who only see media as a desperate plea for other people to notice their perceived unique intelligence use?
I'd ask you how to improve that, but I happen to already have my media literacy maxxed out. Good thing it means nothing, so I can just pretend I'm the smartest guy ever, I feel so superior now to all you plebians who aren't as media literate, get fucked!!! HAHAH (randomly remembered that one guy from the end of South Park Stick of Truth when he got the stick)

>>535925839
He was the only one who was liked because he took the time to listen and solve issues, it's shown when Kageaki visits him in the castle. He genuinely was a good person who helped people around him as much as he could and was appreciated even if people didn't like the regime. The newspaper stuff wasn't just propaganda.

>>535916371
"One day I'll finish" tried to read on but really don't wanna reread that mecha shit.
Good/Evil couldn't care less.

>>535926778
I hear real knows real. That true?

>>535926025
White Pigu go home

>>535926921
moege buta..

>>535926970
You know what's funny, 2 narcissist can't live toghether with each other for any prolonged period of time. 2 guys, both of which are obsessed with terms like "media literacy" and think of themselves as "media literate" will inevitably implode into hating each other if you make them discuss any media work

>>535919621
Narahara can't write long stories.
Hanachirasu was decent because it's a short and concise novel with a minimum amount of worldbuilding and characterization, but Narahara clearly went ahead of himself with Muramasa.

>>535926693
If you enjoyed 03 you will most likely enjoy rest of the games

>>535919765
>nothing else in the game is as silly as the fetus shit
lol
The time travel part that came out of nowhere or the gigantic golden Rokuhara captain were far sillier.
All of the suffering is depicted so ridiculously over the top that it can't be taken seriously, and all of the overblown rape/NTR scenes are clearly just fetishbait inserted into a story that pretends to take itself seriously otherwise.
The fetus scene is just too on the nose thematically, but there's a lot that is sillier in Muramasa.

>>535926561
>People accept that they're right as a fact
Yeah so? Doesn't mean they aren't aware other people think differently and don't share their opinion of what is right. The basic bitch relativism you're talking about is pretty obvious for everyone.

>Muramasa illustrated it with Doushin already - rape? Omg evil.
Bruh

>it's very clearly showing how dumb and flawed the justice/revenge/peace ideas are in reality.
It does take the approach of the battle of ideas showdown to illustrate that and it isn't really convincing because it refuses to deal with complexities and nuance.

>Pretty sure the point was to show how irrational the view of someone as "evil" was because the kid who came to take revenge viewed ichijou as evil despite her not having much to do with the accident.
If she had everything to do with the accident, would it make it more rational and justified? This is the problem with extracting universal insights from a particular scenes.

>>535927206
Bro narahara hasn’t even written that much to generalize his writing style

Today, I will remind them https://vndb.org/w11870

Damn Muramasa must be really bad since everyone here is shitting on it. I’m gonna avoid playing it. I’m assuming the high rating on vndb is because of the reddit userbase.

>>535926921
This.
>t.chuuniGOD

>>535927692
People here doompost all vn including the one they haven’t read don’t listen to them

>>535927476
The mecha action itself is laughable already. There's a reason Kageaki use a facepalm gesture to activate his "tsurugi."

>>535926842
>he genuinely was a good person
You can't be real holy shit
Imagine defending him of all people

Muramasasisses… our game is finally being exposed for being kusoge in this thread.

>>535927560
>the people who hate it haven't even played it
makes sense

>>535927928
Defending him is one thing(you can make an argument that he did something remotely good) but he's literally calling him good. He must be the trap who doshin fucks daily kek

>>535927875
kek

Chuunige genre isn't for serious storytelling. That's why I only read non-chuuni plotge and charage if I want good stories. Muramasa is just following the conventions of chuunige.

That’s why Umineko is the best of fiction

Redditmasa
We like Umineko over here on 4chan.

>>535927195
Nah, I agree the term is real and misuse doesn't remove it's actual meaning. If you improved your literacy you would have understood the guy I replied to was just shitposting

Moral relativism is gay and the distinction between believing that killing is justified and killing but being "self aware" about it is, in effect, completely meaningless and just a different breed of self righteousness.

Essentially, the mindset I had when reading Muramasa was a search for "essential truth." That is, I was constantly search for better axioms to describe the entire world. Aah, I'm not philosophy major myself, but hopefully that's enough description to emphasize with what I was thinking.
Zenakusousatsu, subsequently, is framed within the work as a universal axiom. One could say moral relativism is a dominant force; there's justice, but fuck you moral relativism is the one universal truth, there's revenge, but fuck you moral relativism is an objective law of reality. To me, I thought that was it. Holy shit. This is the axiom that describes everything. At last, I truly see. Everything kneels before the zenakusousatsu. Narahara examined other ideologies from every angle and showed how logically zenakusousatsu is the one true axiom. The one that isn't just an ideology; the one that actually accurately describes the world.
However, well, if you have a BA in philosophy you can probably tell how dumb that is. There are no axioms that describe the entire world. Axioms are tools that can be useful, in Wittgenstein terms (maybe) they're tautologies that exist solely as language. Aaah, I read Philosophical Investigations as part of this months-long debate, and pick related really shook me. "What is modified by the rule? What is gained by this assimilation of expressions?" I'm avoiding using subjective/objective here, but it was like shifting mindset away from thinking "there's an objective external world which can be perfectly described by a set of axioms", to thinking "my world is defined by my language." etc etc. Okay, that's getting pretentious, but basically, Muramasa looks a lot better in the former sense than the latter sense.

>>535927552
>Doesn't mean they aren't aware other people think differently and don't share their opinion of what is right
Those people who think differently are what's called "evil" and "wrong". People are retarded.
>bruh
Case in point.
>battle of ideas
Never happens as one is shown to be explicitly wrong.
>accident
Yes if you trip someone on the stairs and that person dies, their friends or family are very justified in hating or trying to harm you. Kind of uhh obvious isnt it

Can we also talk about how much of a bitch Kageaki is? Like the dude is always crying 24/7 it boggles my mind people have him as the best protagonist. I’m glad this place finally got redpilled on how shit that fucking overrated garbage is.

I can’t tell if one person is making multiple muramasa post for doomposting

>>535927692
People in this general shit on literally every VN. Muramasa was also pretty well liked when it actually released and then turned into a shitpost centerpiece over the years, which automatically makes people hate it on even more. Just read it yourself and form your own opinion.

>>535928405
>Never happens as one is shown to be explicitly wrong.
Ichijou is explicitly shown to be wrong and she pretty much ends up following the same path as Kageaki does in Conqueror. A writer doesn't need to have a character dogeza and verbally express how they were wrong and retarded about everything to show that their point of view is meant to be incorrect. I don't know why people try to pretend Muramasa is neutral and doesn't have specific viewpoints that it tries to push
>all killing is evil
>all killers are villains
>every person has good and bad within them
>there is no such thing as justified killing
Like it's not subtle.

>>535928390
I mean what is funny quof praised muramasa and its philosophy until it came out. After it came out he dropped this post. Classic JOP moment.

Muv luv has been completely forgotten unlike muramasa and umineko which makes me depressed

>>535927692
I disgaree with the moral philosophy but it's still worth a read.

muramasa unironically had better comedy than most moege

>>535928405
>Those people who think differently are what's called "evil" and "wrong". People are retarded.
I don't understand you understand what I'm saying. Your initial point was "someone evil to you is not evil to another" is not obvious to most people and I'm saying that's not true and narahara should've made a justicefag character who is already aware of that to make the plot more interesting
It's retarded to say just cause something is relative and not the literal absolute truth embedded into the fabric of the universe, it's retarded to have them as social construct to better our lives.

>Never happens as one is shown to be explicitly wrong.
It's more of a one sided battle of ideas where it's clear what the author wanted to preach to the masses but that doesn't mean it isn't presented in that format.

>Yes if you trip someone on the stairs and that person dies
yeah bro ichijo went to her house and pushed her off the stairs like the bitch she is

>>535928208
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't read the muramasa argument, for some reason people here are mindbroken on muramasa and umineko, so my brain learned to just auto ignore the topic.

The term might be real, and there is definitely different levels of engagement with VNs, although I'd argue that for reasons different than media literacy, but my claim comes from the fact that I know 3 different people from 3 different cords who see themselves as literary geniuses and always weild how deep their media literacy is(including bringing up how many real books they've read and how themes means different thing from what plebs talk about when they mention themes and more), and you'd think they both respect each other for being so smart, but they actually hate each other and that's why 3 cords exist, their egos were so big they couldn't coexist in the same space with the idea that more than one of them is being worshipped for how smart they are. Which is why I concluded people who don't have much going on in their lives are just desparate to have their superior intellect recognized and worshipped

>>535928804
Bro every aspect of storytelling in the VN bends over backwards in service of the philosophy/message

>>535929038
That's the only enjoyable aspect of it. I want to read a comedy moege by narahara.

>>535929156
>Bro every aspect of storytelling in the VN bends over backwards in service of the philosophy/message
I still like the humor, worldbuilding, fight scenes and characters.

Execution is way more important than any any level of profoundness a message or a certain philosophy could have in the story.

>>535929335
>fight scenes
They're too silly and ridiculous but I guess that's par for the course in chuunige
But yeah the worldbuilding is cool

>>535929421
The Execution is goofy and cheesy in the ichijo's route. Maybe the execution is better in the true route but idk

>>535929421
I mean it depends. Something that is so theme focused and something where the writer really wants to say something to the audience, it's not unreasonable to expect some profoundity.

>>535929676
The author could try their hardest to communicate a profound message, but it will simply fall flat if it doesn't resonate with the reader at all. And it's not exactly anyone's fault. It just boils down to the life experience of either party.
You can't appeal to everyone, but it doesn't make sense to bet everything on your "message", too.
I say it's better to allow for the freedom of interpretation and let people hallucinate the meaning of your story if that means they take away more from it.

>>535927461
I like how they show rance's hot body in a lot of H CGs. It helps us who self insert as heroines and wanted to be dicked senseless by chads.

I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!

>>535899923
>>535901003
C-Cute

>>535929156
>I want to read a comedy moege by narahara.
Your Kaigen Seito reps? Minus the KINO finale, that's unfiltered chuunikino.

>>535928668
Imagine responding to such weak bait

>>535899923
I wish I had a cosplay gf

>Kaigen Seito
>5.73 average
Oh nonono hahahaha

>>535929056
You're not very good at reading or english are you?
Muramasa doesn't have much to do with the justice as in the justice system and construct, but the justice as a single person's view imposed on many people looking up to him. Hero route, not court route. Which is a very real thing happening to this day and in history.

>>535930112
>I say it's better to allow for the freedom of interpretation and let people hallucinate the meaning of your story if that means they take away more from it.
That's just writing worthless slop with no meaning. You people will truly go to every length to avoid any possibility of being called or having to consider yourself stupid for not understanding something. Allergic to learning would rather munch on grass, huh

>>535931868
Shut up, retard. Everything is a construct. You can't just debunk them by going muh relativism. That's so unconvincing only retards like you will fall for it.
>bro your justice is not the absolute truth of the universe and these people consider you evil and don't agree with you so it's debunked and retarded
If you think this is profound or challenging I think you're a teenager or something. Even the justice as a justice system is some people's views imposed on many people. It all starts from individuals before reifying as social institutions and taking a life of their own.
My point is you can use pretty much the same shitty logic to "debunk" anything, be it someone's personally justice or collective ideology or social institutions or whatever.
You're so philosophically impoverished it's not even funny. You just think within the limits set by narahara to fool you. You don't critically analyze the philosophy being presented, instead preaching it like the literally word of God.

>>535931725
I guess Marvel's Avengers is the best movie franchise of all time, haha.

>>535901003
You're chubby but in a good way

Will umineko get dunked on in the next thread ?

>>535931725
5.73 means that most people who voted for it thought it was decent or better.

>>535933172
I didn't read it

>>535933172
It gets dunked on all the time for all the right reasons while muramasa is put on a pedestal by idiots without anyone challenging them. When it comes to muramasa people just turn their brains off or something.

no one asked

>>535933596
I think it's cause it only came out recently in English compared to umineko and FSN. They both were worshipped back in the day the same way muramasa is worshipped now.

>>535932116
>That's just writing worthless slop with no meaning.
Nah, that just different approach. Some stories are intended to be a mirror of (You), and author's job here is to induce thought process of reader, not simply state their point.

Just finished my first real ending of Muramasa.

fucking kino

Glad I listened to you all to pick it up. I still have all of the other routes, are they even better?

>>535933247
and why would you play something decent when there are 10k good+ vinnies you haven't read?

sad cope

>>535933172
Once trannager wakes up and sees that anons discussed Mememasa without him. It's her only way of fighting back against /vn/.

>>535934206
Why would you religiously listen to public ratings in the first place when anons in this thread recommend it overwhelmingly positively?

>>535934638
>why would you listen to hundreds of vn connoisseurs shitting on it vs 1 harahara apoligist itt recommending it

>>535932740
>you can debunk anything
Yeah, that's the point. The only truth is (You)rs. Read UBW for more about borrowed ideals.
I never called it profound or anything, it's you having a shit fit over something you didn't understand and ignoring reality because "everyone knows" - in an age where persona cults are insanely widespread. lol

>>535934723
>harahara
Didn't he write Muramura?

>>535933834
Sure but these can still include the author's thoughts as something for you to agree or disagree with without being presented as some message. Pointing your finger at something without presenting your own opinion on it is shallow and pathetic.

>>535934848
and?

>>535934746
Okay you're a retarded underaged troll
Should've said it beforehand so that I wouldn't have wasted time

>>535934848
Namanama was responsible for that one

No way you guys are still going.

>>535934948
Whatever makes you feel better at night. Consider reading without your head stuck up your ass next time

>>535928767
MuvLuvGODS are the silent majority, above such petty squabbles

>>535934723
It doesn't even have hundreds of votes, and the majority of those rated it as good.
If that's not enough for you enjoy reading highly rated slop like Ooe.

>>535934746
>-
AI bro...

>>535933952
Yes

Still not reading keigen, hanachirasu or masa, especially masa

Nukitashi made me insecure about my average size penis

>>535935497
You will be fine as long as it isn't below 20 cm.

>>535928767
Sorry that I don't spend my time discussing a 22-year-old VN.

>>535935497
I have a 4.5 incher and every girl I've rizzed up to the bed always end up with a disappointed look when she looks at my penis. Give me one reason why I shouldn't kill myself, sca-ji.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dk5D-_WvFsc

Vinnies for this?

>>535935975
>>535935497
Women have it easy. If their boobs are tiny, men also find it erotic. We men are treated as outcasts and subhumans for our tiny cocks.

>>535936158
You could just become a trap. Men love fucking traps with tiny cocks.

>>535935252
dishonest post as expected. it has hundred+ votes and the majority is 6, which isn't good, it's decent.

>>535935252
>If that's not enough for you enjoy reading highly rated slop like Ooe.
all those votes come from fujos who only read fujoge, unlike kaigen seito which is rated by plotfags, and it EVEN has the narahara bonus

it's a dogshit game, deal with it

just never have girlfriends or sex in general, retards

>>535936309
I don't think so. Men are demanding femboys/traps with huge cocks these days.

>>535936337
I will never fuck!

>>535933952
It's all downhill from there.

>>535936337
>just don't fulfill one of the most basic desires in life
Sorry but some of us are not asexuals

>>535933952
wtf i don't remember that cg

>>535936505
it's 2025, you can just open internet and trick your brain into believing you're impregnating some blue archive loli in 2 clicks

>sumaga
first time hearing about this nitroslop

>>535935605
>you will be find as long as you have a huge cock
Thanks for your kind and uplifting words bro

>>535935286
it uses the long ones thoughever

ok i've decided: gonna play some nitrosloppa, specifically
>dra+koi
>hanachirasu
>kaigen seito
should be enough for the next 2 weeks

>>535936723
I can't my brain that easily. I know it's all fake and gay, and the fact that the girls don't actually reciprocate my feelings breaks my illusion.

>>535934423
Quite literally the worst poster. Together with all other schizos.

>>535936843
It also uses it unnecessarily the way you used it. You probably copied the text from AI and replaced the long one with "-".

still my favorite muramasa webm

>>535936336
>it has hundred+ votes
Yes, hundred+, not hundreds of votes. The "s" at the end implies the plural of 100, which would be 200 votes at least. That's basic english.
>and the majority is 6, which isn't good, it's decent
The majority of votes are 6s and 7s with a large gap to the next highest stat, meaning that the majority of voters considered Kaigen Seito to be good or decent.
Now this might come as a surprise, but "decent" is just another way of saying "good".
cambridge dictionary:
>decent: socially acceptable or good

Besides, there're 10/10 votes as well so clearly people liked the VN. You try way too hard to dislike Kaigen Seito for reasons unknown to me, and mayhaps even yourself, despite never even having read it.

>>535936725
It is known because jast cancelled the translation, django too(urubuchi slop so whatever that one)

>>535936725
Sucks for you, unless you will pay it then I'm jealous that I can't play it again for the first time. When I played it, I was just sad the entire time comparing it to anything new, because game it oozing with how much fun VAs were having recording their lines, composers with coming up with absurd tracks, writing full of bizzare goofiness, they just don't make games like that anymore....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdjvMfqx1-U&list=PLoJ9jNq-9XayZLTXgFzHgwA5QFVzW6s9F&index=254

>>535937170
i hope somebody pays you for shilling that shitty game here, otherwise it's just sad

>>535937170
>The majority of votes are 6s and 7s with a large gap to the next highest stat, meaning that the majority of voters considered Kaigen Seito to be good or decent.
>Now this might come as a surprise, but "decent" is just another way of saying "good".
Most people don't rate like that on vndb. If its average is sub 5 it's pretty much a kusoge. Look what other kinds of VNs have the average around 5-6 lmao

>>535937191
>spreading lies

>>535937191
Fortunately /ourguys/ got something even better

>>535936725
It's a goofy one but I liked it. It has a lot of character.

>>535937170
>there're 10/10 votes as well so clearly people liked the VN
one is a troll account the other is a fujo so...

>>535937278
>like a vn and post about it
>"SHILL SHILL SHILL WAAAAAAAH"
/v/-tier faggotry

>>535937353
>>535937278
>>535937470
Dude is arguing for the sake of argument at this point. I don't think he even believes the bullshit he's saying

>>535937353
I enjoyed many VNs that have "low" averages on vndb.

>>535937519
It do be like that.

>>535937779
You pretty much enjoy anything nigga

>>535937372
JAST won...

>>535937519
>vn universally hated
>NOOOO IT'S GOOD TRUST ME ALSO I LOVE SLURPING NARAHARA'S COCK AND RATING ALL HIS STUFF 10/10 REGARDLESS OF QUALITY *SLURPS*