Thread 535924728

Pochie Wednesday!
troondle filth off the op!

>Recent News
Ascension crew is passing tools to Epoch team to do content fixes in the upcoming days
expect bugfixes
cheevos fixed, explorer rewards fixed

Log in using your old Epoch account details on the Ascension website.
>https://ascension.gg/

>What is Project Epoch?
A World of Warcraft Vanilla+ Private Server featuring TBC talent trees and tasteful custom content.
>1500+ New quests
>2000+ New creatures
>2000+ New items
>And more!

For more info read their website
>https://www.project-epoch.net/

>Guilds
none

Previous Thread:
>>535889413

Turtle won.
https://youtu.be/2oew8UPWNaA
New zones

Lvl 1-10 Thalassian Highlands (High Elf starting zone)
Lvl 1-10 Blackstone Island (Goblin starting zone)
Lvl 1-60 Alah'Thalas (Silvermoon Remnants faction capital)
Lvl 28-34 Northwind
Lvl 29-34 Balor
Lvl 33-38 Grim Reaches
Lvl 39-46 Gilneas
Lvl 40-50 Icepoint Rock[1]
Lvl 48-53 Lapidis Isle
Lvl 48-53 Gillijim's Isle
Lvl 54-60 Tel'Abim
Lvl 55-60 Scarlet Enclave[1]
Lvl 58-60 Hyjal
New dungeons

Lvl 25-34 Dragonmaw Retreat in Grim Reaches
Lvl 34-39 Crescent Grove in Ashenvale
Lvl 35-41 Stormwrought Ruins in Balor
Lvl 43-49 Gilneas City in Gilneas
Lvl 48-56 Hateforge Quarry in Burning Steppes
Lvl 60 Caverns of Time: Black Morass in Tanaris
Lvl 60 Stormwind Vault in Stormwind
Lvl 60 Karazhan Crypt in Deadwind Pass

New raids

40 players: Emerald Sanctum in Hyjal
10 players: Lower Karazhan Halls in Deadwind Pass
40 players: Tower of Karazhan in Deadwind Pass

Dungeon extensions

The Deadmines: Jared Voss | Masterpiece Harvester
Wailing Caverns: Zandara Windhoof | Vangros
Shadowfang Keep: Prelate Ironmane
Scarlet Monastery Graveyard: Duke Dreadmoore
Scarlet Monastery Library: Brother Wystan
Scarlet Monastery Armory: Armory Quartermaster Daghelm

New zones

Lvl 1-10 Thalassian Highlands (High Elf starting zone)
Lvl 1-10 Blackstone Island (Goblin starting zone)
Lvl 1-60 Alah'Thalas (Silvermoon Remnants faction capital)
Lvl 28-34 Northwind
Lvl 29-34 Balor
Lvl 33-38 Grim Reaches
Lvl 39-46 Gilneas
Lvl 40-50 Icepoint Rock[1]
Lvl 48-53 Lapidis Isle
Lvl 48-53 Gillijim's Isle
Lvl 54-60 Tel'Abim
Lvl 55-60 Scarlet Enclave[1]
Lvl 58-60 Hyjal

This one

>>535924728 (OP)
Thanks. Add guilds next time. There some i guess...

Join on Gurubashi Alliance side!
Whisper anyone online!

>lvl 13 on contract
i was arrogant
i shouldnt do that

>>535924834
Other thread had more effort put into it, had guilds listed and everything but of course the troon faggot that makes these insisted on doing their own

POCHIE

>>535924835
See? It's not that hard to promote your guild into OP.

>>535924937
Queue bgs it makes it better

can anyone hookup a brother with a talent build for druid pvp?

not sure if i should go feral or balance

I really was just killing the wrong mobs

This one

>>535924937
Same but 10
They should add more rewards.

>>535924782
If turtle actually won, this shill post wouldn't need to exist

>>535925059
MANY such cases

>>535924937
Just hit 16 tonight and 20 still feels like miles away when I don't get that much free time to play on weekdays.
Stay strong brother, you can make it.

>>535924728 (OP)
POCHIE
>POCHIE
POCHIE
>POCHIE

>>535924938
>more effort put into it
Nobody cares about shill's effort. Fuck off.

>>535925132
Yeah it makes you wonder why this less popular pserver with a fraction of the custom content that was heavily shilled by /r/wowservers is getting generals around the clock. I'm nooticing...

>Total peak today: 44000 online
Total active players across all regions (Unique IPs, multiboxing excluded): 500k~

Ambershire:
Peak right now: 11700 online
Total Characters created: 150000
New accounts from unique IPs: 45000
Northshire Population at Launch: 5150 players
Items looted: 1300000 within three hours
Average world latency: 78ms
Max bandwidth world connections only: 2.3 Gbit

EU peak after 1.18 release:
Ambershire peak right now: 11700
Nordanaar today: 9900
Tel Abim today: 3000

Total EU peak: 24600 online

SEA peak after 1.18 release:

Karazhan: 8900 online
Ravenstorm: 6200 online
Blood Ring: 1800 online

Total peak SEA: 16900 online (Should be 20k+ again in Sep. with Gehennas)

SA Southern Seas: 2500 online (Not on 1.18 yet)

>>535925140
I just got told "any defias would do" by someone and i trusted them..

>>535924834
For Menethil join or !
Just kidding but I was considering joining one of these since there are no /epog/ ones.

>>535925195
>finally hit lvl20 with contract
>people already farming BRD at this point and you trying to gather party for DM

>people talk about pservers on the pserver reddit
Woaaaaaah.... maybe you should go back there.

>>535925207
What's wrong with this thread >>535924351 and why did another have to be made?

>>535924782
And yet, almost all of the custom content is garbage.

>>535925356
Make non-troll guilds next time, Rajesh

>>535925356
Literally compromised with a turtle discord link in the OP. It's pozzed.

>>535925382
nice cope.
Easy to criticize when you don't have any of your own :^)

>>535924937
>>535925195
>be me
>make male this time because I like 1 animation
>take contract at level 1
>level to 13
>realize I hate every other animation more
>reroll to exact same character with same professions but female
>forget to take contract at lv1
>I'm sure my autism will forgive me eventually
>nope.avi
>delete and re-roll third time
>now at lvl10 and life is finally good
We're going to make it bres

>>535924782
client sucks and warlocks got no incinerate
Pass.

It's pochie Wednesday sisters!

>run all the way across the forest to some secluded out of the way location
>do one single quest objective
>run all the way across the forest to the next one
ashenvale is fucking dog shit

do rogue poisons scale or are they useless even if they work?

>>535925492
Turtle is a machine translated tranny fanfiction. The only reason either of these servers have people playing them is because there aren’t other fresh vanilla private servers atm.

>>535925681
1.12 feels better than 3.3.5 with like two mods off github.
3.3.5 feels better out of the box.
So essentially, 1.12 is a pleb filter and this whole thread got filtered. Pathetic desu senpai

for some reason leeling feels slower than usual

>>535925676
I kneel autismGOD

>>535925789
Not really, the NaM casting queue is clunky as fuck. i was even considering turning it off because no spell queue made more sense than that shit.

meanwhile casting in epoch feels buttery smooth

>>535925676
you people are brain-damaged

>>535925712
Charming.

>save someone
>heal them up after
>buff them
>they dont utter a single word of thanks
what the fuck is going on in the brain of these people, do they just let life happen around them?

>>535925774
Deadly poison scales, rest are not mentionef/untested

Is taking 2/2 Pathfinding on Hunter worth it for that extra 8% movespeed while in Cheetah Aspect?

>>535926035
you're a hunter just afk while your pet solos a dungeon

>>535926035
bro move speed is bis

>>535925998
oh, so assasination wont be completely cucked? that's nice. Any idea if sub is viable for leveling or anything?

>>535925983
niggers

Wait, so how can i get achievement for quests if i completed the zone yesterday?

>Epoch cucks are waiting 2 hours to finish quests
Meanwhile I just did Deadmines and WC on Ambershire today. I’m about to do SFK and Stocks tomorrow and hit level 30

>>535925983
Saying thanks in modern video games is a bannable offence, so people have been conditioned to play multiplayer games like they’re singleplayer.

My contract? SIGNED
My experience? HALVED
My gear? FULL GREENS
My professions? CAPPED
My questlog? FULL
My playtime? 31 HOURS
My level? 17

>>535926260
We may have to wait 2 hours to do a quest but at least we're not playing on the steam of shit that is the 1.12 client.

>>535926260
>rush launch to beat Ambershire
>completely fuck over your PvP userbase
>shit like this happens on your PvE server
lmao
>>535926397
nice cope cuckold

>>535926035
there is genuinely nothing more important in this game than moving faster

>>535926260
So you don’t actually like classic WoW, you just want to zoom?

>Eflop cultists are trying to compete with 100 other idiots in one spot with no hyperspawns
Ambershire has hyper spawns activated in all zones right now.

>>535926260
cool, man, enjoy having nothing to do at 60 because
>premades making bgs unplayable
>classes without bc talents are boring as fuck

>>535926571
It also has heirlooms.

The balance seems kind of wacky. I just saw a hunter kill a mob way faster than me and thought, wow that class must be strong! Then an arcane mage 2 levels lower came by and repeatedly two shot the same mobs for about 10% mana.

is stockades reworked to be an actual dungeon now? or is it more or less the same

>>535926260
Rushing through a classic+ server is literally the dumbest thing you can do. E-Flop players have a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of classic+

>fell for the explorer meme despite being a wagie without unlimited free time
>only had time to level up once yesterday

>>535926480
>>535926595
>dont zoom
>level SLOVFVLLY and SOVLFULLY
>cant find a party for any group content
heh

>>535926738
You think you do, but you don’t.

>>535926571
Competition for the mobs is part of the experience, why can't Turtlekeks grasp this?
Not everything is supposed to come easily.

>>535926035
yes nigga it's also faster than your lvl40 mount for a handful of seconds

>90% of the vanilla experience is leveling
>people want to level as quickly as possible so they can... not do any content

>>535926626
Heirlooms???

>>535926895
not a problem on enbyshire!

>>535926902
Yeah. 36 slot bags, level 1 mounts, hearthstone cooldown reduction, portable services, etc.

>>535926895
It's even dumber when you realize this is Classic+ that adds content throughout leveling to smooth it out. Unlike Turtle, you don't have custom dungeons and raids to look forward to.
>>535926971
based

Das fucked up senpai

>sitting around in the same spot making no progress is fun actually and true classic
The cope is off the charts rn

merge now before people move to ambershire

>>535926989
lmao

Warrior bros tell me it gets easier
leveling so far has sucked
10-19 wsg sucked
20-29 wsg sucks
tanking my first dungeon and managing the mouthbreathers was more work than real work

>>535926895
you will not run any dungeon
you will not get any dungeon loot
you will tot complete any dungeon quest
you also will not complete any group quest
enjoy your "vanilla leveling" and leave while you hit 60 cause nobody will want fresh 60 in their naxx raid

>>535927045
>wsg
let me guess, horde

>LFM MC no hunters, paladins, sulfuras HR 1k+ gearscore , link chievo
>tfw I'm still level 44
brehs....

>>535927008
That ship sailed 3 hours into launch when Ambershire actually launched. Why do you think we broke records on Sunday?

>>535926989
god forbid they make it proc off offensive and healing spells too
despite it being in the fucking resto tree

>>535927045
Leveling on Epoch is bad for everyone. It should be a breeze 1-20. I guarantee you’re going to see a huge drop off when people get close to 40.

why move to turdle when it has no fresh servers

endless waiting.

Is it true they ruined Gurubashi by not introducing the promised faction queue due to the rushed, half-assed launch?

>the only people at 60 are going to be hunters and paladins
lmaoooooo

Literally all custom content is shit. People don’t come to WoW for fanfiction bullshit and made up nonsense. They come for the gold that Blizzard made in 2004. A fresh blizzlike vanilla server would slaughter Epoz and Troondle alike.

>>535927220
Lmao all the sod and retail players rolled on epoch it seems

will this work for leveling? putting the first 2 point into remorseless and then just going sub all the way. I know combat is the goat of all time but I just want something different

>>535927061
>muh naxx
lol

>>535927313
Retail doesn’t even have loot drops anymore you retarded tranny nigger, it’s personal loot, nothing can be reserved.

>>535927293
>come into a classic+ pserver thread
>bitch about custom content
????

>>535927293
yeah? how did sanctuary go? how about hyjal? darrowshire?

>>535927293
Bullshit.

>>535927316
sub is my fav for levelling

>>535927287
>be 60 hunter/paladin
>grinding shit solo for big gold while others fighing for mob tag on tanars/STV

>>535927293
Fuck off to the anniversary servers then, faggot

>>535927316
sub is pretty fun
you can explode enemies with Imp ambush

>>535927384
>>535927385
>>535927391
Everybody remembers and loves the vanilla quests. Nobody even talks about your shitty ass custom fanfics. The only reason these servers coast by is because there isn’t a fresh vanilla to go to.

>>535927316
sub sucks if you need to fight more than 1 mob
it also much slower than combat

>All channel spells auto cancel for some reason
>Devs didn’t catch this bug or fix it in 4 years
>I caught the bug Day 1
I quit because of shit like this. This is retard bros

>>535927534
>>535927385

>>535927534
delusional
if anything people make fun of vanilla's 90% boar ass quests

>3am is the only playable hour for kezan
bros... i cant take this anymore...

>>535927647
So I’m your delusional opinion, a tranny fanfic writer forcing you to sit through 20 minutes of scripted RP events for 600 exp is better than a simple kill quest that gets you out into the game’s world?

>quest achievements are fucked up
lol
lmao

>>535927534
>the vanilla quests
Have you played quests with a good story? Draenor, bfa?

>>535927682
It's your call to roll on gvrv sis

>Do the contract
>Receive no rewards
LMAO

>>535927794
The writing post-classic is fucking horseshit.

>>535927772
you are brown lol

He's right, Blizzard thankfully never made RP events for quests or just have tedious quests end in getting a white item or some fish.

3 hours to hit lvl 10. Not having to deal with hyperspawns and 20 SoD tourists tagging your mobs makes leveling surprisingly chill and efficient. There's still enough people to level with.
I'm only worried about the state of faction balance on Guru.

>scan the bug tracker
>not even playing his server
LMAO

>>535927929
it's over

>>535925254
Ther is an epog guild on Menethil called Thousand Tusks

>>535928045
>epog guild
Every guild on epog is an epog guild

>>535927924
There’s a difference between a brief 10 second scripted sequence and whatever the fuck the trannies running these god awful “fun”servers are doing.

>>535928164
why are you so angry?

>>535928237
Because, you are defending slop, tranny made garbage, praising it and pretending anyone enjoys it. Nobody does. It’s a novelty joke at best.

>>535928042
Lmao, this can't be real.
See you in goldshire!

>>535927383
>plays retail
>calls others tranny

so are achiements\tmog fixed yet?
I suddenly got credit for 100 quest complete but didn't get the 50 quests\lv10 cheevos

>>535927534
That's why Turtle Wow is great, it doesn't try to reworks what's already good

Question,how fucked am I if I roll warlock on the pvp server?
Followup question how retarded am I if I play destro?

>>535928540
its not retroactive, so loremaster and explorer cheevos are bricked
also no reward for explorer's contract

>finished Elwynn, Westfall, Loch Modan
>pretty quick
>get to Redridge
Oh.

I've scouted an elite champion of the horde

>>535928695
/fuck him
the orc too

>explorer's contract
fuck this shit
no rewards cause achievements are bugged
not enough quests for leveling
im gonna reroll

>>535928695
stop being in desolace
i'm the only nelf allowed here

>>535928580
I meme a lot against Turtle ITT but it really is the best case scenario for classic+. Epoch tried to do something new with it and failed.

>channeling spells get canceled randomly
>seal of justice bugs you out of bg

18 on my explorer. WAGMI slowbros.

>>535928897
>hes doing it for free

>>535928968
Summarizes this whole server tbqh

engie or LW for hunter?

>>535928045
Proof?

I think I'm done. Sorry bros, I couldn't do it. Leveling is fun and all but I can't bring myself to care about raid logging. Go on without me. Have my gold and stuff.

>>535928591
Please clap I mean , please respond

There's actually too many quests now, I wish they extended the quest log.

>>535928768
I am a devout priestess and Elune requires my chastity, sorry.

>tfw can't play for a week
a-at least they will fix all the important bugs by the time I can play right?

>>535929183
Lvl?
People were saying that even with new quests theres barely enough exp from them to lvl up after 30. Means with explorer's contract you'll need to grind whole levels on mobs.

>>535928580
>Turtle Wow ... doesn't try to reworks what's already good
Tell me you don't play Turtle without telling me you don't play Turtle
Several classes that were good in Classic are complete garbage now with no justification, it makes no sense whatsoever
Sure it's cool that they made new zones, but when the fucking classes don't work then it doesn't matter how much content you add. You've ruined the entire gameplay experience.

>>535929257
I'm on explorer's contract, about to hit 18

>>535929184
Never did

>>535928927
It's fun

>>535929313
lol

I dont get it why are some Addons for 3.3.5 working and others not?!

>>535929257
"People were saying" = Troondle doomers in this thread

Nobody would even know this because nobody on explorer's contract is past 25 and even if they were it would be the ones who autism grind mobs anyway

>>535927180
one day you will escort the defias traitor anon

Level20 just about done with silverpine, do I skip crossroads completely or do its grey quests with quest chains?

shant EVER be playing troondle

Hm is ElvUI really that good?

>>535929658
Go do the new Mankrik quest chain, trust me.

>>535929270
I'm a funplayer on a funserver so idk about that but tell me all about it, what classes? I enjoy that they buffed meme specs because that's what I like to play

Most cucked class?
Least cucked class?

>>535929779
mage
hunter

>>535929720
For ui, it sucks. I am using it for its utilities with disabled skins.

>>535929779
Most rogues, least hunters

>>535929779
>Most cucked class?
rogue
>Least cucked class?
hunter

>>535929779
>Most cucked Class
Mage
>Least cucked Class
Hunter

>>535929720
no, it looks like dogshit, but it's not like you have very many alternatives atm

>>535929779
>rogue (pve server) or warlock (pvp server)
>hunter

why is hunter being completely braindead and by far the most overpowered class the only constant in these classic revamp servers

>>535929779
Mage, rogue
Hunter

>>535929841
>>535929814
so what about just using Bartender with Unit Frames or the retail UI Version?

>>535929838
there are still some mages that dabble in the forbidden arts of boosting and spell cleave
>>535929882
if you attack the hunter the pet stops hitting you dumbfuck

>>535929882
I just want to shoot guns not be OP...

So, what's with the new instance in Stonetalon Mountains?

Is it a dungeon? Raid? Or what?

>>535929882
because tbc and wotlk hunters are completely broken before lvl 70

>>535929806
>>535929838
Why mage? I know about rogues stuff not working but what's wrong with mage?

>>535929875
Why warlock on pvp? I expected it to he rogue there too

>>535929882
>hunters are historically the best class in the game during the leveling phase
>everyone is stuffed into the leveling phase
>wtf why are hunters so OP
it's like it's your first fucking time playing classic lmao

>>535929875
Nah warlock only sucks at low lvls, once you get to 35 not even hunter can 1v1 you if you got the pvp gear
Mage is perma cucked yeah

>>535929921
I'm sure you can get good results with those, some people use pretty bars or whatever it's called. I remember during SoD there was some guild wars 2 ui one that looked pretty nice too.

>>535929979
they're disgusting at cap too pablo

>>535929968
aoe cap inv pve
bm hunters (most popular class) raping them in pvp

>>535929989
What makes warlock so good? Sovl link?

Wouldnt it be cool if all the Turtle shills actually showed us what all their new content was? You guys did get new content, right? I literally dont know!

>>535929968
Mage does not have enough mana and damage to kill anyone with the bloated resilience gear

>>535929968
rank 1 arcane missiles shoots 2 missile, rank 2 shoots 4 missiles and Rank 3 feels like the Server rolls a dice between 1 and 5

>>535930047
our paid shill resource package wasn't updated yet so we can't post any of that

>>535929838
>Most cucked class?
warrior
>Least cucked class?
paladin

>>535929989
yeah i'm sure at 35 (where hunter gets bestial wrath) the matchup gets a lot easier
totally

>>535930047
there's too much to show. not spoonfeeding you

>>535930031
>AOE CAP
for what reason is this in the game lmao. And is it just the non ccable shit or viper sting that's fucking mages over?

Why are my pets so strong? My blueberry is tanking everything including elites, i essentially never have to stop for it

>>535930147
because gaytotes doesn't know how to port features from vanilla so he presents stock trinitycore mechanics as "features"

>play meta class
>loot competition
>play non-meta class
>nobody wants you
sometimes i just want to play wow solo

>>535930183
Wotlk of the lich king pet scaling

>>535930183
This server uses wotlk pets lol

>>535930047
I only did 1 new zone, northwind and 1 new dungeon, dragonmaw retreat and the zone was nice looking, but the rewards were kind of shit, aside from a solid 1h axe. Dragonmaw retreat was massive, maybe even bigger than lbrs. Pretty difficult too, wasn't a huge fan and a retarded group would likely fall apart at the dragon boss.

>>535930183
>>535930253
>>535930254
this is so fucked up

>>535930217
Aoe cap is actual dogshit and I do t even like mage

killed bhag'thera at 32 for those sick 10 agi 16 stam pants (they got buffed on 'poch)
imagine playing a cucked class that cannot do this

>>535930131
>post after post explaining why Turtle is better
>absolutely fucking nothing even remotely showing why it is
Ok

>>535927316
levellng as anything but combat is just a waste of time
t. leveled 8 rogues to 60

>>535930362
>abloobloo agoogaa
ok

>>535930253
Leveling Mages is so fucking shit with Wotlk Scaling i dont remember it that awful during Classic WoW

>>535930428
Mage is king shit except hunters in classic

How do I obtain the rested XP food?

>lockpicking quest cucked
>stealth broken
>posions applying chance is near 0
shit class

>>535930254
They are TBC pets, with a pseudo WotLK talent tree, but really they just took the same pet leveling skills you would get normally and added them into the talent tree and you don't even get a single pet talent point until level 20. The biggest and probably best change they gave hunters is they made pets start with their skills unlocked. You don't have to tame multiple random animals across the world, their claw/bite/screech skills all level as the pet levels and they gain levels faster. This is probably why people are getting their ass kicked by hunters in pvp, because the gap between a good hunter having all their pet skills up to level is gone and so even bad hunters now don't have that bit dragging them down. Oh and pets have new and unique skills, like owls being able to disarm people for 6 seconds, or boars hitting like a freight train after a charge.

>>535930395
I was afraid that was the case, riposte and blade flurry are always so good and all the passive white damage. I just figured sub would be fun on the pvp server and less loot competition

>>535930569
Nah tbbc blueberry was just as dogshit as vanilla one, these are clearly wrath pets.

Nigga heil van cleef

>>535930645
Vw could tank raid bosses in wotlk

>>535930645
It's on the webpage, they made them scale a bit like they did in SoD, with attack power adding to pet damage and your stats scaling their stats some. I guess some pets are broken, like someone told me scorpids poison is useless and doesn't apply, this could be similar to like how >>535930552
mentioned poisons not applying properly. When kaytotes said they had over 1500 bugs to work through, he was likely downplaying it. This server is a janky mess and needs a massive amount of work. We are beta testers.

so do we know how hunters will perform in raids?
im tempted to reroll, cause rogue fucking sucks

>>535930821
top dps

Raping niggas on my shadow nigga priest

Why exactly is warlock so cucked on pvp server?

Have you guys noticed you're missing a lot more than you would in classic, or other private servers? I never noticed spells/attacks missing so much, but at low levels, when there are hyperspawns, it's very noticeable when I miss something.

>>535930914
it's not. wl is op as fuck too on this server

>>535930820
Having the wotlk gigataunt goes well beyond "making it scale"

>>535930990
Growl has always existed though.

I have been hunting for silver veins all day and have yet to find a single one. It's all just Tin, the only time I saw a Silver vein was the first time I ran through Silverpine at level 10.

>>535931092
there's a ton of silver in the westfall mine

>>535931143
Not really sure how to get to Westfall as Horde.

>>535931058
yeah but torment rank 1 couldn't even keep aggro from lvl 12 mobs if you went triple dot and wand
now it can up to lvl 20
it's wotlk version

>>535931092
I think they fixed the spawning bug, where every tin vein spawned with a silver vein inside it too. I managed to get a lot of silver that way. They really fucked up mining nodes and flowers though. The prices are so low for selling most ores, that it's probably not even worth it.

found the guild boys, whisper for inv

Blackwood Nut Sample

>>535931214
the whole threat system is wotlk . it's way easier to hold threat

>>535931226
Please be Menethil

>>535931226
Which server?

>>535931221
Yep I found my one silver vein that way and then I got distracted questing and missed the fucking boat apparently.

>>535931291
>>535931308
Kezan

>>535931203
stv and swim north on the coast. I am pretty sure stonetalon or ashenvale might have better results though.

>>535931226
Can I say N word there?

>>535931371
they are british, they would probably have you arrested

>>535925676
you are just like me fr

when do the eurocucks and browns thin out? I just want to do the defias traitor quest in peace, without a fuckton of mongoloids standing on the spawnpoint all fucking day long

>>535931226
My new home.

>>535931371
Fags like you would never survive in proper old man guilds. You're supposed to grow out of being a racist mutt by the time you graduate middle school.

Jesus fucking CHRIST is blacksmithing good for levelling with. This mace I crafted at level 11 is still comparable to quest rewards for level 18 quests.

>>535925676
I redone my warlock 5 times to get a good name for vw.

>playing hunter
>shoot mob before I notice someone else aggro'd it
>switch to another mob so I don't steal
>they switched too and my pet is still engaged
>taking on the new mob by myself
>pet dies and old mob runs over
>they kill me together

Is tailoring good while leveling

>>535931636
>pet dies
bro?

im gonna...
REROOOOOLLLL

>>535931636
never level around druids, they will tag everything and then try to get away with you killing the shit they tag, also get a better macro for attacking, so your pet doesn't stay on mobs you haven't tagged

Is wl drain tanking good in epoch

>>535931636
>pet dies
>from one mob
Literally fucking how?

>>535931735
no need. voidwallker can tank 3 mobs at the sime time while you multidot

is engineering any good btw?

>>535931648
if it's anything like blacksmithing, Absolutely.
>crafting rings
>crafting belt buckles
>repairing your gear for free
>gear is comparable or better than quest gear

>>535931636
you must be THE worst player in this general if you can fuck up playing a huntrard desu

>>535931681
>>535931731
>>535931769
Level 19 Pet Bear vs 25 Grey Bear.
I should set up macro's.

>mfw playing hunter for the first time
what the fuck is this class
why am i allowed to be a non-stop rape machine
why am i basically a caster that can cast while moving
why can my pet solo mobs
why can i solo every elite quest

also i tamed the rake by pure chance (i think he's good), but i believe the server normalized pet stats so he's not special or anything. he's still special to me though.

Where are the recipes for the new LW stuff?

>>535932001
Now you realize why most hunter players are completely retarded, the class enables them.

give it to me straight explorer bros - are there really zero rewards atm due to bugged achievements? if so I might reroll a normie gottagofast toon

>>535932080
If you didn't already hit level 20 with the contract, you should be fine.

>>535932176
I'm lvl 17 so pretty close, I just hope it wasn't all for nothing

>>535932001
>usually play rogue
>decided to try hunter this time
holy shit, this completely braindead class has no right to perform good anywher yet it is topping recount in raids

is menethil dead? do I reroll kezan?

>>535932080
Seems like each server is getting cheevos reactivated so rewards should (coping) be coming in soon.

>>535932261
they finna merge in a week

any news on the hunter nerfs?

>>535932274
they're gonna retroactively count achievments or what?

>>535932274
when(tm)?

>>535932238
it's easy and fun. it's the most fun class in wow

Are warriors raping everyone with the new blacksmithing stuff or are they still shit in pvp

Turtle won.

>casters get fucked over
>rogues get fucked over
So what, the only playable classes right now are warrior, paladin, and hunter?

>>535932232
Don't hit 20 until achievements work on your server or else you won't get anything until 40.
Unless they fix retroactive achievements, which they hopefully will since some people might be locked out of Loremaster otherwise.

>>535932391
how are casters fucked over?

>>535932391
or a healsissy

>>535932261
Menthol is doing fine, you don't have 50 idiots camping the quest giver spawn for example

I actually expect tons of rerolls on this or next week, once people realize that achievements are fucked, explorers contract is shit and their class suck (unless they play on hunter/paladin).

>>535932391
hunter is basically a hero class atm, their pet is stronger than the average mage

How do I increase the max amount of character-specific macros?

I'm limited to 18 by default on that tab. But for some reason, 36 seems to be the max for global macros.

>>535932391
Hunter and Warlock are the apex classes, but healers and tanks are still necessary

>>535930976
explain please, i am very dumb

>>535932261
Why don't you stop tripping about server pops on day 3 of a pserver opening. It's not Gummycraft I can tell you that.

>>535932624
Your blueberry doesn't die. Your succubus does more damage than the Rogue in your party.

>>535932326
I fucking hope so

>>535932337
Soom

>>535932683
but that sounds like PVE things not pvp?

>>535932261
weekend will bring tons of new players to every server, relax bro epoch is still growing

40 hours since they said they had the fix for BG exp ready
they'll implement it any time now...

>>535932624
you are a pet class (pets are op)
you do good damage in pve
you are giga tank in pvp due to resilence and have infinite mana

>>535932745
If getting chunked for 100 by a pet doesn't seem like a big deal to you then you're never going to get it

Surely there is a function in the system of the game that allows cheevos to unlock retroactively (with rewards) after it's already been triggered.

What faction/server if I just wanna play a cute femnelf or femhuman and get told to take my shirt off and engage in numerous alleyway activities? Please and thank you! I'll be a pocket healer most likely.

>>535932481
for sure. hopefully the achievements will work retroactively tho but I'm not betting on it

question: why do people act like class balance is going to be like this forever

i mean obviously hunters / warlock pets are going to get bitch-slapped sooner rather than later, for example

>>535932885
kaytotes fucked up

What do I do after I stack all my DoTs on and enemy, but before it's time to Drain Soul? Shadow Bolt is really mana intensive, but Wand is not that much DPS

>>535932864
post more fat sluts

>>535932912
that's not what i asked

>>535932864
Fatter. More pubes. Less clothing. Sunset on the beach.

>>535932885
because 80% of the server will level meta-classes and people will leave if their class got nerfed

>>535932921
>but Wand is not that much DPS
Get a better wand

>>535933007
>
I'm retarded, it's so obvious now. Okay, thank you.

>>535925784
You didn't play any of Epoch dungeons, or Turtle new dungeons, you are an actual drone

>>535927092
>tfw not a 666 so I can't get into DM

>Warlocks
>strong
They don't even have enough mana to kill one warrior
A PVP geared level 20 warrior already has 1200+ and 20% resilience and it's only going to get more absurd
Your shitty like 100-damage immolate isn't going to cut it

druidchads what's the best professions for leveling? is lw really that good or can I go herb mining with wotlk client double tracking and get rich instead?

>>535933072
Never ever discount wand damage while leveling

>thinking theyll fix or balance anything
holy fucking kek

Up until what lvl can I heal if I put all my points in shadow?

>>535932935
>>535932997
Answer me....and I will open my comfyUI after work and makesome similar stuff

>>535933138
I was wondering about all this resilience too as a rogue. sure I have CC but from what I've seen warriors just unga bunga everything and even after I blow my load they're hardly dented

>>535933296
they really shouldn't delay class tuning. people have already catch on.

why does he weep

Holy shit, this server is full of bugs! How do you even play on this?

how do you get these two achievments one after the other like this?
am i missing something

>>535933427
:(

I've been losing 100% of my wsg games as ali on Guru and it's complete 3-0 sweeps
This is so frustrating

>>535933461
Achievements didn't work until today.

>>535932921
Mu wand deals more damage than drain soul lmao

>>535933427
Because Wizzle is broken.

should i reroll from rogue to hunter?
i like melee but rogue kinda shit and i dont want to play paladin or warrior

>>535933517
They work?

>>535933516
The side with faster queues historically loses more games
you better get used to it because in classic realms horde was sometimes favored to win 99-1, but in exchange they had 30+ minute queue times

>>535933516
Git gud

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>535931226
finaly some fukn daddy guild

lmao why are we doing this?

Gvrvpochie....

>>535933769
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>server runs perfectly smooth for literal hours
>join a group for a dungeon or elite quest area
>instantly crashes
every fucking time
this is so annoying

>finally log in after doing a bunch of shit in other games
>dead
whelp.

>>535933660
As soon as you qualify for a new one, it should unlock and give you all the prerequisites, at least on Guru it did.

vro its so fucknkkgn over vro...

POCHIE DOWN

wtf he said the naughty word

>just pulled baron on my hc character
bros...

>>535888397
the dark skinned male human in darkshore town starts it
he's sitting by the campfire

Bros i got charred valed

>>535933660
If you're on Menethil they aren't fixed yet. Should be today though since they've done one server a day.

holy shit everything is offline LMAO IT'S SO FUCKING OVER

>>535933870
>7 characters
Mandatory downtime for you.

>>535933257
>get rich
>from gathering
>when everyone is leveling
Not how it works. Supply and demand. For example, copper ore is so worthless that I just sent 120 of it to my friend for free just so he can level blacksmithing further.

The easiest way to make money is to gather the stuff that no one wants to gather because it's either dull or time-intensive, and specifically stuff that higher level players with more gold would want. Who wants to swim around picking stranglekelp for FAPs? What hunter or player learning cooking wants to farm chunks of boar meat? Who wants to camp a vendor for that rare recipe? Who wants to fish? (Me.) But right now there's no higher level players, so you're simply shit out of luck.
The best way to make money is, ironically, from crafting professions that can make gear that's great for leveling: LW, blacksmithing, and tailoring. Big supply of leveling players, big demand for leveling gear, easy to level skills with all the low level resources flooding the economy.

If you don't want to do that, things that just generate a flat amount of gold are good. Target mobs that consistently drop good grey items. Keep an eye out for weapon or armor crates. Strangely, pickpocketing as a rogue is really decent for whatever reason.

your mom fell for my bwc
she's glued to it 24/7

>was winning wsg 2-0
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Join in Menethil. For the distinguished explorer, it is the mystery of the land that sets them apart.

bros is the server filled with bugs?

im not liking this shit man

>>535925681
Retard here why would they remove incinerate?

>>535932683
Not him, why is void so strong on this server?
I've not had it lose threat once. I'm not even respect to demo felguard. It's just too effective as a tank.

>>535933943
uh oh

>>535933943
NTA, but those 5 on Kezan could be a holdover from the stress tests.

>be in bg when server goes
>am dead waiting for ress
>server up
>kicked out of bg
>no body
>have to take spirit healer
>assume they'll turn off res sickness becasue this shit happens a lot
>10 min debuff and they broke my gear
nice

>>535933516
I feel like there's some esoteric bullshit going on with BG win rates because it's always both factions complaining that they're the ones losing. I play Horde and it's impossible to wrangle the average 70 IQ knuckledragger that queues for our BGs away from mid. Queuing with randoms has always fucking sucked for me as Horde, and I'm decent at PvP.

>>535934012
Are you trying every race/class combination?

AAAAAAAAAAAA

uɐzǝʞ<

PLEASE DO A 5 MIN ROLLBACK I ACCIDENTALLY LEARNED POLEARMS AND THAT SHIT COST 1 WHOLE ASS GOLD

>>535934110
*grabs you*
*slaps your a few times*
*pushes you and pins you down*
*farts on you*
*chokes you and spits on you*
*puts wet finger into your ear*
*puts finger into your butt*

WAIT WAIT
IS THIS TRUE?
ARE ACHIEVEMENTS NOW LIVE????

I'm gonna do DM and WC tonight then uninstalling. Wow fatigue is real

>>535934212
Yes on Menethil.

>>535934342
fucking sweet!!

Why are so many humans skinheads?
is this some racist server?

Just killed 3 rare mobs after the server restart

>>535927115
>was in balance in vanilla
>is in resto in BC
>only used by ferals
Dunno what they were thinking with it.

just fucked inside you're mother's womb

CHEEVOOOOOOOOOS

tfw really just having fun leveling at my own pace and reading quest text since it's my first time playing classic but I'm concerned that picking Gurubashi means I'm gonna be prime gankbait by the time I make it to 20s and 30s. I'm kinda nervous.

>>535930321
Cool. Would love to see pics!

>>535934501
i say this

>>535934506
bruh they're gonna tear you a new asshole lmao

>>535925676
Need Gigi gf

Haven't played priest before in vanilla era
At what point do you completely ditch "lesser healer" and remove that shit from your bars in lieu of flash heal and heal?

I know its just meant to be a placeholder and doesn't rank up anymore after 3 but it still does really decent healing for a cheap af mana cost.

>>535933516
skill issue baka trashcan!

Epoch is unironically fucking dead. Continue investing in this server at your own peril kek
>>535934524
>>535934776

>>535934506
Pull your diaper to the side, let my gank squad have a ride

>>535934816
not sure how its here but lesser heal had a use on some servers to proc clearcasting or whatever the priest equivalent was
and when the -25 mana cost offhand was a thing, that spell was 0 or really low cost so it was a filler you could always use

>>535934869
>clique premade wins games
do you have any other pearls of wisdom to share?

>>535935313
>game just after server crash
>clique premade

>>535935313
not a premade

>18 second CC immunity on a 2 minute cooldown
Reminder that the absolute state of pvp is only going to get worse

>>535934905
>Epoch only has 1/3rd of their peak population logged into their server right now.
>Turtle has a little under half of theirs.
Turtle has better retention. Wonder if all that custom content has something to do with it :^)
https://youtu.be/ATXSJhdmfwE
https://youtu.be/vIuS0DXGY6Y
https://youtu.be/uBJmyhE2_pQ
https://youtu.be/njXP0hfJBjc
https://youtu.be/5gy_3Dy5nXE
Turtle won.

>>535934905
>both turtle servers at 10k around the clock no more no less
really makes you think

>>535934706
>>535935005
I'm just a cow druid man let me enjoy my herbalism.......it's so over.

>>535935634
Ambershire had 11.5K players and Nord had 10K
I've been telling you faggots for a month now that the existing playerbase doesn't give a fuck about >muh fresh servers
It's classic+. No one already playing Nord gave a shit.
Also nice conspiracy theory you seething, coping cuckold.

>>535935384
benched pedo

>>535935313
Amazing how shitters will always try to cope with excuses instead of improving.

>>535935729
hmmm yes, all the "11.5k" players that rolled on ambershite were totally new players because nordanaar had the exact same pop before and after its launch. makes sense

>>535929257
there prob is enough xp, especially with wsg xp and dungeons

Got a rogue to 24 on guru but I'm not really feeling it. It seems that I hate not only fighting rogues but also playing a rogue

When are they fixing soul of iron?

>>535935384
based pedo

What the FUCK

whoa...

>we're not a clique premade!!!
>we just happen to playing together and shitposting together!!!
>skill issue noob!!!
it's so obvious lmao

gurusissies..

>>535935827
The population has been fluctuating so I don't know what you're rambling about but you're wrong, probably gay/trans and playing on a doomed pserver so I'm just gonna laugh at you.

Remember, the merges are inevitable and I'll be here to laugh at you some more when it happens.

>>535935958
i farted there sorry

there's literally 4 people in WSG on menethil right now

>turtle faking their pump to seem relevant
>it doesnt fool anyone and Epoch keeps growing
>turtle resorts to DDoSing
fucking russians

I'm surprised how disciplined and respectful of the content the community is so far.
I don't see any level 15-16 shitters trying to sneak into DM groups, most everyone is 18 or even 20+

>ambershire has exactly enough players to fill the server but no queues
gmmm yes noticing...

>>535935978
This whole fucking general has been inorganic from the start. We're being invaded.
Given the origins of this server, I have a pretty idea by who.

i tihnk epochs gonna drop a lot of players only 3.7k online atm on kezan its really not looking good started leveling my mage on ambershire already

>Hunters got a pet with a 6-second disarm
yeah I'm out

departing tourists just have to announce what's going through their rotted frontal lobe

prime time yesterday there was multiple hour anal spam at menethil. i have found home bros

one indian on 300 rupees/hour payroll is the only person talking about turtlewow
there's no online presence of the server anywhere except him shilling on other wow generals

>>535936310
when you dont fake population it tends to go down at night time or when people are working

>do ashenvale escort
>escort NPC wont appear in my layer
kekkaroo

Considering it was never tested previously and there's not enough people on the dev team for them to test it themselves, how buggy do you guys think MC will be?

was this ever used for anything?
will epoch use it?

>>535936596
its my secret sex dungeon

>>535936310
It's guaranteed. Look at the roadmap. Turtle's next patch will get more content in a month than they'll get in the next year.
>>535936468
>there's no online presence of the server anywhere except him shilling on other wow generals
https://youtu.be/2oew8UPWNaA
>66,777 views Premiered Aug 17, 2025
Nice cope.

>>535936647
but we got soulful stuff like resilience and wotlk hunters

Blizzard steals ideas from Epoch. This is what popularity means.

>>535928429
UUUUOOOOOHHHH ToT

>>535936596
Yeah on Turtle it's used for the custom level 60 Stormwind Vault dungeon see >>535924782
https://youtu.be/wfQ8kczXnBY
https://youtu.be/8L9UYIolgoI

>>535936647
>500k+ unique players
>only 60k views on video
did you forget to pay for your youtube bots?

What level is THE CURVE today? Am I ahead or behind?

restokin or feral stronger pvp?

>>535936970
Why would people watch a trailer for something they're already playing? We already know what was added to Mysteries of Azeroth.

Also it has only been three days and Blizzard did a massive copyright strike on their videos so classic+ enjoyers probably aren't checking YouTube for Turtle content anyways.
You're dumb and your conspiracy theories suck. Seethe in your irrelevance. I'll be here to laugh when your servers get merged. Faggot.

Can someone explain why alliance has consistently attracted worst players throughout all these years? I used to think horde was the tranny faction because of muh epic diverse rebel outcasts, but playing the game shows otherwise. It's like the trannies and retards have internalized hate for themselves and self insert into the game as something they'll never be, whilr goinf against what they really are closer to in real life. I wouldn't be butthurt if alliance didn't have green and castles while horde have puke orange brown and mudhuts. It's just so unpleasant looking at orange and brown on my screen constantly. It's like I'm looking at an indian.

Rogue or warlock for gurubashi? Also what faction?

>>535936972
We are at 40+

>>535932509
Pls respond

>>535937086
>trannies
>elves
>pserver heavily promoted by FFXIV communities
Gee I wonder

There is an 80+ player guild from my cunt on epoch, played troontle for years and met maybe three compatriots.

>>535937118
Alliance warlock

>>535937182
This is starting to make sense. I'd imagine the overlap between /xivg/ and /epog/ is 1:1 given how unhinged the faggots ITT are behaving.

What classes do you stay away from when forming groups during leveling and what do you always want? Is there anything where like you're asking for a bad time if you bring them, or by not bringing something?
idk shit about forming groups

Do we not get the achievements retroactively?

>>535937118
Rogue is gay and brown. Warlock is the most chad class. Alliance is way bettet than horde aesthetic wise, but in reality Kezan has a 10% winrate in BGs on alliance and Guru is currently at 38%. That's fucking pathetic. If you can stomach playing a no shoes I'd go horde. I'm considering either quitting or playing horse. Alliance is literal cancer.

>>535937130
It's limited by server. Why do you even need more?

>>535937351
during leveling the group composition doesn't really matter, just make sure that the average level is high enough but you can always get retards making runs more difficult regardless of class

>>535937537
Deep Warrior Autism

>>535937182
But they don't look like night elves irl. They look like trolls. They belong on the horde.
>>535937194
What country?

>>535936084
> Menethil
it's dead, Jim

>>535936884
Shills don't even try to be subtle anymore.

>>535937293
Seems like you just got here but we've been knowing this. Ever since the generals split, the threads have been made by a xivg tranny. Any time you see a whitemane OP it's him. He tried avatarfagging too, but the threads got too popular and normalfags just ignored him because they didn't know the retard. The epoch tranny janmies have been confirmed to shill on 4chan too.

>>535937771
Why don't you use the other threads then?
Why enable them and let the XIV tranny control the narrative?

>>535937670
>>535936084
merge with kezan when?

curve is at 58 right now
i hope you are not behind...

>>535938006
OH NYOOOOOOOOO

>>535937917
I post very rarely because the mods on here are niggers and I don't wanna sit in a thread by myself when I need to say something because newfag cattle don't know where to go.

does the boat in stormwind work or is it in the game only because gaytotes couldn't figure out how to restore 'nilla version?

Are some of you in a normie guild already or do you plan to look for one at 60 for raids?

>>535938246
>implying people will stick with this server long enough for a raiding scene to develop
kek

>>535938157
No boats in SW. You go to Menethil and have two there. You talk to thr dockmaster and get teleported. Not sure about booty bay yet but thetr should be a boat tp there too.

So this is basically an open beta right? How long until soul of iron is fixed?

>>535936084
baited again award
people on kezan are already full pvp gear

>>535937950
> merge with kezan when?
To be completely honest, I'm giving it 2 weeks tops.

>>535932453
Vanilla mana regen, Vanilla pushback, aoe cap, mana pools too low to deal with pvp geared people, debuff limit, etc.
Only melee and pet classes are reaping the benefits of the wotlk client mechanics while all the caster stuff was reverted to vanilla values.

>nagas in zoram strand drop random crafting mats
is that intended ?

>>535938419
Honestly it's negligent that it hasn't happened already. There wasn't nearly enough people to justify two servers. Now imagine if they opened up Uldaman kek

>>535938365
People as in horde only because alliance have 10% winrate and get marks 30 times slower.

So why the fuck were none of my names saved?
>apart of every stress test
>got to level 10 during the last test before it went offline
>had 3 characters on kezan with names i liked, 2 copied over to guru, and an extra on guru with a different name I liked
>ascension comes, accounts merged, still using my epoch account
>all my characters gone on both servers
Luckily I got 2 of my names back, but the other 2 were taken and I had to spend like 2 hours trying to find an untaken name that was good.

>>535938524
It made sense when there was a 4000+ queue and if they were going to cap the server.
But once they started comfortably holding close to 10k it no longer makes sense to have the other servers

>>535938582
They rushed launch and they freed up names after 24 hours.

>>535938524
What the fuck is uldaman even? A server they prepared just in case? At least ass scent are ready for everything though unlike gaytotes.

Do you think horde or alliance is stronger in wsg atm?

>>535938524
I really don't know why they've made Menethil in the first place.
> queue
So what? If you wanna play, then wait a little. Also, the average number of players will go down as time and initial hype pass. Happened in every server ever. Except maybe Nost but Nost is was in a completely different category compared to any pserver ever.
> Uldaman
I don't even know what's the purpose of that. Maybe devs are using it for testing or somethin'

>>535938676
ally on guru
horde on kezan

>>535930224
Solocraft is just that

>>535938582
Hey retard, your characters didn't transfer but your names are locked to the account you had them on and you can creatr them again. I had 3 epoop accounts with 6 reserved names and I got all of them on my main ass scent account now.

>>535938701
>I don't even know what's the purpose of that.
Overflow if Menethil/Kezan were too busy kek

What's the best class to level while listening to my Will Smith CD?

>read people bitching about how you should group with people
>claim there's no downside
>mfw every time I've ever grouped with someone, they're deadweight half afk
>mfw I nerf my xp while they stand around clearly responding to some retards off game
>mfw they invited me every time
>mfw these are the same people bitching in these generals about people not grouping but they'll claim it's not true
Never accept a group invite. It's always a 3rd worlder stomping around and playing a vuvazela and screaming huehua jajajaja between each mob kill.

So how many people here are actually playing turtle? I see it shilled a lot and I hear people talking about it a lot here but I never actually see any screenshots or anything.

>>535938676
Alliance has 10% winrate on Kezan and 38% on Guru. Don't listen to lying nigger retards like >>535938704 that talk out their dirty nigger asses. I'm using a tool that literally sums and calculates all games.

>>535938795
> Overflow if Menethil/Kezan were too busy kek
They really overestimated their own popularity and the devotion of the average hypetard, lol

>>535938676
Ally rules GVRVFASHY

>>535938853
I've been grouping on Ambershire and it's been great. Sounds like a server culture problem. That's what you get for playing a Brazillian reddit server.
>>535938913
Me. How would you even know whether a screenshot was from Ambershire or Kezan? It's the same fucking game. Turtle just has a lot more custom content.

>>535938984
Stop samefagging lying nigger bitch

>>535938985
>has a lot more custom content
>screenshots are the same though as it's the same game
Huh?

>>535938913
I played Turtle a year back with a friend. They'd log out with me, but I'd usually get back on before them to do banking and auction house stuff. Sometimes it would be days off being logged off between play sessions, and their characters would always be standing where they logged out, counted in the numbers. That's their secret, or at least part of it.

>>535938853
What do you do if a zone is so overrun that every spawn has a group of 3+ people trying to tag it?

>>535938913
It's literally one payed shill going all out.

>>535939085
Do you really think you'd see the difference between Northwind and Elwynn Forest in a 4chan screenshot thumbnail?
https://youtu.be/2oew8UPWNaA?t=42

>>535939173
If you want to level right now, and just have to play, there's always a corner of the map with mob spawns that aren't for quests that you can grind out. Sure, it's less in the spirit of the game, but the true spirit of the game would be to wait a week or two and ride the next wave of people that are waiting for bugfixes and want to play the game at a reasonable pace.

>>535939217
Yes? I've seen tons of screenshots of the new Goldshire on Epoch but all I ever see of Turtle is the same dev videos you keep posting. It just seems a bit inorganic I never see any screenshots in game of people playing Turtle is all I'm saying.

>>535938985
I'm not a monkey retard so me personally I'd know right away.
>>535938913
There's more 4channers playing turtle than epoch and I know that for a fact. It's for you to decide if that's good or not. I can confirm for a fact that playing with FMC is better that anything on epoch. Despite the thread drama forced by a couple of autistics, and several unironic trannies that never show their man voices on discord being in the guild, people chat and play together. The only issue is that turtle's client is literal dogshit and makes me want to vomit.

>>535939040
Why are you so mad about facts?

why do people say i've hidden epoch channels? they're literally gone. discontinued

Menethil is comfy kino I hope we don't merget anytime soon

Is Aimed Shot worth it? High cast time, high mana usage.

>>535939426
not on leveling

>>535939338
>know that for a fact
>confirm as a fact
Proof though? The turtle thread can't survive alone so it had to move to a slower board. That sounds like there's less 4channers statistically.

hmmmm

>>535939298
It is inorganic and that's because a retard split this thread from wpsg and turtletrannies don't care to post here. Turtleteannies don't even post in wpsg that much, aside from two autismos spamming forced drama, and that's because of the cancer that discord is. They just stay on there and use 4chan for other boards.

>>535939506
Most of us keep turtle on the down low because we don't want it becoming a 4chan server. Exception being turtleshill who has admitted to doing it for the lulz

>>535939426
Nah

>>535939426
Typically yes. Hunters never have to stop if you manage your mana around aimed shots. Aimed, 3~ autos, aimed and you shouldn't run out of mana ever. Just remember that marking resets your mana regen so you shouldn't mark EVERY mob if you need to regen.

>>535939486
Ignore this. If you're not going BM, which is marginally faster, aimed is great. Pets as is are strong enough without BM. Going for aimed first and then filling out the BM tree for more pet damage is viable.

Bros i got my priest to level 15 and my warlock to 15, but i cant choose which one to play.

>>535925789
>pfui/shagu to even see buffs/debuffs and castbars
>nampowa for spell batching, like 4 totems instead of one or weapon switch+ability in a single GCD instead of one
>there was also some .dll that allowed druids to shift like it's wotlk, that's why druid's reshift exists
>macros with retarded conditionals like [behind] so you can completely ignore block/dodge on players
>dragonflight-like feature that adds an interaction keybind so you can snipe quest items and wsg flags (lol) in 0.1s
These are the ones I'm aware of, and I haven't looked very hard at all
Your client has literaly cheats built-in
Your next cope and/or deflection, redditor turdle worker drone?

stop the war... I think both servers are fun...

>>535939354
The only fact here is that you're a lying nigger that has been spamming lies about how amazing and busssin alliance is on gurutrashy to get newfags to bite and play with you.

>>535939598
Lock unless you want to heal, I can already tell söypriest won't be a serious spec on this server

>>535939639
Unironically what's fun and special about Epoch? I don't see the appeal.

>>535939557
people who post on turtle are normies i agree, hardly even 4channers.

Dafuq are Glittermurk Mines?

>>535939506
I don't know how to prove something I've experienced plus I don't care to prove anything to some retard on 4chan. A question was asked and I gave a factual answer. You can do whatever the fuck you want after.

>>535939519
>your life without shoes

>>535939750
I new dungeon in I think stv.

>>535939756
All I asked for was screenshots but it seems too hard for the average turtle player. Super weird that you get this defensive over it almost like you don't even play WoW at all

>>535938913
We post screenshots at /wpsg/, we come to /epog/ to ragebait only

>>535939736
They're not just normies. They're boomers/turbo autists that prefer the forums to social media/reddit/4chan type discussion.

>>535939750
new 40+ 5ppl in STV

>>535939380
I don't if it's epoch discord specifically but you have to click on the #menethil-trade channel and add it your, then the other should pop up and you have to add all manually
Don't ask why, maybe to filter spammers

>>535939757
actually i'm a cute night elf priest!

>>535939736
Yeah and then you join either of the two alleged 4chan guilds on guru and just see broken English, emote spam, and reddit opinions. Turtle trannies are way less normalfag it's just that discord ruined every single 4chan video game community because people just wanna post in there for some reason. Screenshots that would be in the threads years ago now just go in some trooncord channel and the threads get zero OC. I hate trooncord so fucking much.

>>535939956
There should be an enforced rule. No Discord linking on /vg/
Why would you want to engage with the general outside of the thread/game?

>>535939832
I'm not defensive at all plus I have no idea what screenshots you asked for and I'm also stuck phobeposting right now either way so I don't have any. You're just a retard.

pochie... lag..

>>535939943
she gets raped by tauren

>>535940057
Lol okay

>>535939750
If you're not in that dungeon you might as well give up.
These are the world first Epoch raiders and you wont catch them!

>>535939956
forgot to mention /vm/ is a lot better about this
The community stays in the threads.

>>535939956
This is the fate of WoW, I've been saying it for years. You either get heckin' wholesome Quirk Chungus types that will literally talk about whatever current Star Wars show is airing, or completely mentally retarded culture wars obsessed browns and schizos that only think in memes, just disgusting rather than "quirky"

There is LITERALLY no in between.

>>535939845
>nigger put 4chan together with social media and reddit

Wish you tumors would just disappear from my website.

>>535939956
This is a good point. Discord also cultivates people with teenage girl drama mentality to the point where it's only used a psy-op to spread rumours about some shitter in the same guild as you.
I stopped checking on the turtle threads entirely eventually because I just got sick of reading drama about fags I didn't even know.
It felt like i was reading some hormonal teenagers tumblr.

anyone know where that new Defias quest starts? I keep see people posting in world about it, something about finding a birth certificate

Massive lagspike just hit Guru, didn't it?

>>535940161
Your secret club is no longer secret. It's just an edgier reddit without usernames and upvoting at this point. I hate it as much as you do but the culture is no longer the same. /vg/ fucking sucks now and it ain't Discord's fault.

>>535940245

It hit menethil too

>>535940121
>>535940170
>The community stays in the threads.
>I stopped checking on the turtle threads entirely eventually because I just got sick of reading drama about fags I didn't even know

So who is telling the truth...

MENETHIL ATTACKED REPEAT
MENETHIL ATTACKED

gaytotes is back...

gvrv lagging big time

>>535940147
what would be an appealing way to act. I only talk about star wars because i have no personalilty.

jesus christ this shit server

guru bros....

>>535940020
When discord was new, we all shat on it in here, but people still made channels and linked them in game, then slowly it started becomming common. 4chan nigger mods would never ban discord, they only care for bans when you hurt their feelings.

Torta: deploy the botnet

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HOLY LAG BATMAN!

Kezan's shittin' itself...again
or Shenna's simps DDOSing

>>535940303
I'm talking about the turtle /vg/ thread, I've never been to /vm/ threads.
There is no contradiction.

Is it a DDOS?

Time to goon

>shit on Turtle in the thread
>suddenly out of no where a DDoS starts against the Project Epoch servers and they start lagging

Yup, that's a nootice from me right there

>>535940303
Every turtle thread that has ever existed is trolling /wpsg/ by branching off. They're not legitimate and the only reason /epog/ exists is because it's /xivg/ crossposters and redditors posting in them.
>>535940487
Good I hope they kill your server. I hate your fucking general so fucking much.

ChatGPT cкaзaл:

Sure! Here's a short and fitting 4chan-style message you could post:

I'm going to Turtle WoW for now. Epoch lags are unbearable.


Let me know if you want it edgier, funnier, or more in-character for /vg/ or /vm/ posts.

>>535940530
hope shenna sees this bwo

>>535936647
>>535937076
>check the comments on the YT vid
>even the normoids know what's up, absolutely ripping turdle trannies apart
holy fucking cope kek

>>535940335
Anything that isn't just the current popular thing. I spent a long time looking for what I found in the 2000s, which was a bunch of normal people talking about the game, and slowly you'd see their lives trickle in, until you realized they're fully formed people. It happened naturally over time, and I seriously can't remember it coming in the form of discussing TV shows or media in general. That's all that's left, it's a cultural issue beyond WoW as well. The people I met back in the day up until around 2010~ had things going on and were interesting, because their lives were different. There's more nuance to it than what topics are supposed to be discussed, it was a different era, and the replacement being "I like the Mandalorian, 69 nice" is disappointing.

>>535940170
Yeah I literally don't know what the threads are about. I pull up to play some wow. Check the treads and see shit ton of weirs nonsensical spam with random epic name drops that are referred to as "she". I join the guild and nobody ever talks about it, nor do I see most of the name drops in game. Some name drops are in there and you just talk to them like a normal human being and they do dungeons with you and all that shit. You've seen that one retard talking about muh aoiyuki and muh this and that dude being a backstabber and a traitor and whatever and I still don't ser any of that in game after all these months.

>>535940530
>the only reason /epog/ exists is because it's [retarded schizo theories and made-up projection].
Cool... Taken your meds yet?
>Good I hope they kill your server. I hate your fucking general so fucking much.
It's the daily meltdown time already, huh

dead game
dead thread
dead server

>>535940256
True but discord specifically kills threads. Shit that was previously posted in the threads goes on trooncord and the threads are just left with autistic shcizo tranny gossip, because they can be anonymous and not say whatever they have to say on trooncord.

Server's laggy today. Should i try Turtle?

>>535940613
>cherrypicking

>>535940882
yes

>project epoch server discussion
>people talking about what they are doing in game
>turtle server discussion
>discord drama

???

>>535940796
>Cool... Taken your meds yet?

He's right though, Ross.

how is priest on guru? can you kill players 1v1 / get kills in bgs or is it just a healbot?

>>535941008
>people talking about what they are doing in game

Which is losing all your BGs as alliance and winning all of them as horde.

>>535941135
It's probably the worst class at getting killing blows

why does twow battleground queue pop twice as fast as epoch

>>535941173
>BGs
Sorry, I'm white.

Dear Guru Sister,

I'm writing to let you know I'm moving to Kezan. I've come to realize that at my old age, I simply don't have time left for a demanding MMORPG schedule.

I still love PvP, but I just don't have that much time for it anymore. On Kezan, I'll still enjoy PvP in the world boss zones, but for the most part, I'll just be chilling and leveling at my own pace.

Thank you for everything. Goodbye!

copper stocks are fucking UP!
Buy High Sell Low

>>535941173
I'm horde I've lost every single BG, worst thing is I'm sure all the alliance players have the PVP gear. I'm getting farmed for honor every game.

>>535941196
can't you snipe with mindblast or it does 0 dmg ?

>>535941317
Make sure to roll horde unless you want a 10% BG winrate.
>>535941297
A white cuck. Me am I'm a white chad and my purpose is to kill non whites.

>>535941317
Bwo...

>>535941243
lol
you aren't fooling anyone, turtle trannoid
1.18 literally killed whatever was left of your PvP

>>535941476
looks like my queue on kezan horde...

>>535940796
Funny, that's how I feel about /epog/'s schizo posts about Turtle's population being faked.
>>535941243
bc turtlechads aren't limp wristed faggots that actually like to PvP
>>535941476
I play turtle occasionally but enough to know that this is bullshit and probably taken on gummy or something

this is what kaytotes sends you if hit 20 on explorer bros.

>>535941452
>>535941173
Why does the alliance lose all their BG's? some of their players seem way better than horde players and I feel like I see way more alliance hunters.

>>535941371
Server level class spec race gender and games played?

>>535941543
Good alliance players always queue pre-mades

>>535941543
>have to reroll explorer if I want to get ahead with those huge rewards
I'll never catch up...

>>535941559
kezan:12:shadow:undead:female (male): blue archive, wuthering waves.

>>535941543
I literally do not know. It's a mystery to me.

>no dungeons being ran
>no pvp being done
>no one in the world
what are 10k people doing on turtle?

>>535941701
>no dungeons being ran
bullshit
>no pvp being done
bullshit
>no one in the world
bullshit
Answered your questions?

>>535941684
My analysis states that you're a nigger.

>>535941543
>explorer's contract rewards are actually really good
interesting, a few more levels to go now

>>535941701
Most of the bots just stand around afk underneath stormwind. There are a few places you can phase through the ground and see all of them

>>535941739
>bullshit
debunked, look up online
>bullshit
debunked, look up online
>bullshit
debunked, look up online
sounds like the aren't 10k people after all, thanks for confirming

>>535941606
Does epoch have pre-made vs premade? I just assumed premades ran over pugs like they did in the past.
>>535941642
I know you're joking, but I really don't suggest doing explorer at all.
I think I must have autism to have no quit by now.
>>535941686
Maybe it's an XP farming strat? most the time I see them just killing in the middle, or maybe they don't know epoch removed honor, or that only killing blows give XP.

>>535941815
>DEBOONKED
Okay.

>human
>male
>hunter
>fem tauren pet/wife

stay the fuck out of westfall bitch ass nigga

>>535941739
He lied abour everyrhing except pvp though. It doesn't exist on turtle and it's fucked

>>535941776
What answers would have returned a white result?

any guild for the fellow explorer here? playing on kezan

>>535941878
PvP has been popping off on Tel'Abim for the past 3 or 4 weeks. Averaging ~2400-2800 at peak times trending upward.

>>535941839
>Maybe it's an XP farming strat

Well that's a rerarsed strat that doesn't work so if alliance think that's better then they're retarded

>corruption
>agony
>soul drain
>alt+tab on my guru priest
i hope gaytotes doesn't sperg out and ban me for multiboxing...

with this im going to hit the curve in like 10 hours
brd farm in 20

>>535942027
that's extremely op btw

>execute bugged
i cant fucking take it bros, how come they hate warriors this much

>>535942025
multiboxing is actually against the rules so they might enforce it later

>>535941949
None. You're either lying or your pool of games played is too low. My results on Kezan were 13% winrate as alliance and I'm a multi glad and one time r1 player. That was also when I was on track with everyone else and not a lvl 10 getting gaped by 19s.

>>535941873
That's my people.

>>535942123
my lock is on kezan and priest on gurubussy..

>blue BoE drops in a dungeon
>people that were once cordial all turn into rabid fucking animals as everyone needs on it even though no one can use it
People are monsters.

the only way to play, no shoes aint sneaking up on me

Is is true they are not going to merge Menethil?

>>535942172
Needing BOE blues is the accepted way to avoid someone ninja looting it. I've won them and given them away to people that actually intend to use it more than once.

>level 23
>BFD doesn't show up in the Epoch LFG addon
What? What level is that dungeon I thought it was early 20's at least that's going by the three quests I have for it.

>>535942127
I am lying, horde does win more, I just like creating cognitive biases.

>>535942280
They're going to have to when Kezan's numbers drop to embarrassing levels.

How the fuck do I build a tank warrior?

BUT LISTEN THOUGH

>horde win way way way more
>winning gives you 3x the marks
>marks are used for strong pvp gear
>horse get gear much much quicker
>they're already stomping and now they're stomping even harder with all the free gear alliance doesn't have yet because they just lose
>upgrading your entire set from lvl 15 to 25 costs only one mark per item, so the winning faction get even a bigger power spike instantly at lvl 25

This system is absolute dogshit. There should be no pvp gear under lvl 60. They should also copy troondle's change where lower leveled characters can actually hit higher level ones. The only good thing epop did was killing twinking. Or at least they said they would. I don't know if you can actually not block pvp exp and stay in the lower bracket. PvP gear should definitely exist but only at lvl 60. Leveling with pvp was a great idea but not with this dogshit gear system, and espexislly not when wining BGs and capping the flag gives you waaaay more exp.

Paladin or priest?

popped a hemorrhoid gaming too hard and honestly never felt more like a real girl

>>535942257
This man playing Warcraft 3

>>535942623
as far as i can tell losing and winning give the same xp. but xp being dependant on kb and flag capping giving xp is mega retarded you get like 2x the xp as a win if you cap.

>>535942590
You don't take fucking improved rend for starters
Arms tanking is done with a two hander, don't take shield talents either
If you want to do a DPS tank spec with a shield then do fury prot

Convince me not to play on Menethil

>>535942757
gta 2

>>535941531
>b-bulshit, fake, c-can't be happening?!
kek, you're a genuinely brain-damaged caveman, literally pissing+shitting his pants just to cope with reality
just take a look at turdle's PvP channel, people are posting shit like this every other day, that patch actually EVISCERATED whatever was left

level 22. no shoes quaking in their boots

>>535942791
>as far as i can tell losing and winning give the same xp
Untrue.

>>535942810
i cant find a group on kezan fuck kezan.

>>535942965
wait those goggles are actually fucking nuts what

>>535943020
I got 1k both times.

>>535942802
I did want to go sword and board, but heard it's not done due to 2h being flat out better.
I will look into what Fury has to offer, but I was under the impression that Rend and Thunderclap are mandatory if you want to keep up AoE aggro.

Is there a /epog/ guild for hordebros?

>>535942965
These new items reek of funserver. Why the fuck does everything have over 10+ AP AND good stats at level 15-20?

>>535943417
is this your first rpg or something?

>>535941531
>schizo posts about Turtle's population being faked
https://github.com/brian8544/turtle-wow/tree/main/Screenshots
lol
literally everyone knows about it, you're laughing stock champ
what's your next deflection, muh reddit, "i-it's s-still fake" or a full blown meltie?
it is past noon after all, your shift is soon over :)

>>535942950
>2/28/2025
Yeah, long before Tel'Abim had its resurgence and now it's averaging 2400-2800 players. Back in February it was down to like 600. Big fucking difference.

>>535942950
you love to see it :^)

*teleports behind you*
*impregnates you*
heh

>some lvl 26 arcane mage killing mobs in 2 arcane blasts near me
wtf did i pick the wrong class ?

How are spriests in epog?

>>535943889
hunts > mages >>>>> rest

>>535943959
shid

Did they speed up the spawn rate speeds outside of leveling zones yet, yesterday was probably the most bored I've ever been leveling

>>535943959
no changes from base TBC

>>535943662
>>2/28/2025
turdle NPCs, everyone
that pic is ~2 weeks old

it still looks like this:
>1.5k players
>not even half a WSG team per faction
Tel'Banana is literally another PvE safe space for gamer dads, what the fuck are you even talking about lol

>>535942802
I looked through the Fury tree and honestly I'm not seeing the tanking value.

Turtle is just way higher quality and more popular too. They unironically won completely

I'm having a ton of fun playing on Turtle's Ambershire server. It's a great take on classic World of Warcraft and the amount of custom content is truly jaw dropping.

so i dinged 20 and put on the glyph that changes your forms, expecting a new custom look
but actually it just gives you the old classic models
top is no glyph, bottom is with glyph
that bear look traumatizing

Now that the dust has settled, was it worth the wait?

>>535944728
>Annihilation bear.mp3

>>535944728
>but actually it just gives you the old classic models
did you not read the description?

>>535944194
no

>>535944775
no, they still need another beta test and bug pruning imo

Is the server down right now? Can't connect to gvrv

>>535929779
Most healing specs with 0 changes. Dot classes that didn't scale as hard with the increased difficulty. Any TBC class that wants to stack haste on a server with no haste.

Hunter seems to be insanely strong no reason. I guess I forgot how broken TBC hunters are. Feral druids. Alchemists in general