Thread 535986296

>UPCOMING EVENTS
Arc World Tour 2025-2026: https://www.arcsystemworks.asia/awt2025/
Lucyna Kushinada DLC: August 21st
Ranked matchmaking: August 21st

>RESOURCES
Main wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com
Player Glicko-2 ratings: http://puddle.farm
Fighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/
Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U?si=ERui77_DZ-CdFAAj

>Replay Uploaders
https://replaytheater.app/?game=strive
https://replaytheater.app/?game=xrd
https://replaytheater.app/?game=acpr

>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive mods
Potato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/
Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/
Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.46: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.1

>Lucy Starter Guide
https://youtu.be/UT3Q6cAZgYI?si=01HpVdHDULIXfyjo

>Latest Major Patch 1.48 (August 21st)
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2559/

>Current Patch 1.48 (August 21st)
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2559/

>GGST: Dual Rulers TV Anime
https://nyaa.si/view/1979541

>Guilty Gear Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/

>Online GGST Tournaments
https://twitter.com/nafgcto

>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resources
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/
https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releases
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resources
https://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases/tag/v0.2.1

State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!

SLASHED: >>535760081

I can't convert off my low, I can't convert off my overhead. What can I do?

>>535986458
pick a different character

Has there been a bigger frame data change in the history of strive?

Gio bros? We finally good?

>>535986582
verily

I haven't played ST Leo forever, however I think that the nerfs are not that big of a deal, as long as he has his robust toolkit he'll be fine, I however do NOT look forward to top 1 HC meta AGAIN so I won't reinstall lmao

>>535986458
>elk hunt is -5 on hit
so can I literally just take the low and throw him lol?

gauging interest in a strive tourney a week after patch. (You) if interested

>>535987580
if global then yes

Redpill me on the patch notes.

Dizzybros... Is it over?

>>535986458
Yeah Sin is pretty much fucked. I think they didn't really do much critical thinking when it came to this since not only does he have effectively no real pressure midscreen anymore, he also has to use stamina to do anything which can't even be locked into since as soon as you use some stamina, they can just YRC you and force you to play neutral with no stamina. Bleak situation for Sin

>>535987580
My Lucy will be ready

Give me the qrd on Jack-O Venom Zato and Asuka buffs. I might be interested in playing a technical character in this patch

>>535987580
I might enter.

when does the patch release in EST

i can't believe sin is fucking dead

>>535988773
I didn't look too much at the others, but Asuka's seem pretty insignificant. The only thing that might be notable is Full Order costing less and Instant Mana recovering more, but that depends on how much it recovers.

>>535987580
sure

>>535989203
There's no way he manages to be worse than he was in season 2, right?

>>535987580
You will have to deal with my 150ms from europe.

>>535988460
really funny that they just gave S sword hkd and didn't juice the actual setplay or zoning patterns

>>535988773
they made venoms ball zoning way better overall, and they improved most of his normals to help with that too
his pressure and combo game are a bit stronger and more consistent now too
The only negative he suffered this patch is the RISC change reducing his command grab damage but thats it

>>535988773
For Asuka, Full Order costing less is big, YRC and Risc change are strong for him, no other big changes.
His bad MUs are still bad.

>>535989498
why.... why didn't they make 2H wider...

>>535988460
Maybe who knows. None of it fixes were obvious flaws but it'll make her more fun.
>>535989498
They made ice spike a wall of active frames so that helps her zoning.

The way Miyauchi was talking about it before, I thought the guard crush nerf was going to be way bigger than just making it worse for a couple of characters

>>535987580
Sure, but only if it's not too much of a pain to sign up (I've never entered a tournament before and have no accounts on any such websites etc).

>>535988773
Jack-o's biggest buff is all the stuff she doesn't like getting nerfed

countdown change may be a nothingburger but i'm optimistic.

>>535989203
You WILL get CH Elk and go into 2k 2d and you WILL be happy

>>535989868
Making a challonge account is no hassle at all

>>535989850
Being able to YRC guard crush is super huge.

they gutted my fucking fish!

>>535989753
I never understood how they got away with nerfing recover mana instant and passing it off as a buff, all they had to do was just not make It get rid of spells while still recovering mana proportional to the number of spells in your hand, instead they just made It recover a flat 24% which is small compared to the 40% or even full recover from before. Now that It got buffed i'm hoping for somewhere around 45%

Is this a fucking joke? An out of date April fool's perhaps

>>535992204
It was a very weird change, because you could use Mana Recover Instant into Full Order to recover your hand and your mana.
I imagine it will heal like 35% or so, 45% would be too much.

>>535991341
All I want for Anji is for butterfly to be an actual oki tool. Fish was kinda broken so it's fine it got gutted but cmon we couldn't have given him something in return?

OD PRC was a cool tech that I've never seen anyone but me use and I'm grumpy it's gone.

lobby?

GL bros is it finally over?

>>535994508
No lol.

>>535994508
the game has just begun

Finally the curse is broken. Sort of.

>>535994508
i'm tired, hoss...

>>535994197
People were calling Strive a baby game since launch but now with all the technical shit they removed I have no idea what even we can call it anymore.
They got rid of Dp input for tk bomber and youzansen, weight class, dp RC, super prc, removed kara before adding it back to pot only, made burst fullscreen, added elphelt, increased buffer, made all cS + on block, made 6p semi universal, I've lost count of more.

>>535995434
Bro what? A bunch of character have kara moves

>>535995434
>made all cS + on block
I fucking wish.

>>535995126
>tfw strive is the only modern fg with sensible patch notes
Apologize.

>>535995603
Dizzy, faust, and axl are not characters.

breadly sin

>>535995885
I am glad he died. Hope they nerf him some more.

>>535995434
You're wrong on an impressive number of these.

breadly sin

>>535996059
I've just checked and I'm wrong on cS and karas, everything else is correct mister retard.

>>535995434
>made all cS + on block
WRONG

Universal burst is still a good change
Don't care

>>535995434
Sol still has kara cancel but not for wild throw anymore lol.

>be shitter playing strive as a side thing, belong comfortably in floor 9, occasionally make it to floor 10
>man, this lion dude really likes to wakeup reversal haha, i guess i really am among noobs
>watch a random Ky vs Leo match with high ELO players
>no less than 4 reversals per round
>the few times the reversal got blocked, the attacker start their punish combo and the other guy immediately bursts after the first hit

I fucking hate dash jump karas tbqhwy

>>535995434
I stopped playing strive years ago, why did I have to check the thread today and get reminded of how fun TK bomber loops were and how they fucking kneecapped Axl over and over

A little under 10 hours before maintenance begins. Any last words?

so because some babies couldn't mash out of stroke they removed the stagger mechanic entirely. what's next, removing hkd? are they gonna gut oki because some baby can't wakeup dp?

>>535997268
Dizzy will still be bad, but at least I'll have an excuse when my rank is bad.

They should've removed I-no, Pot and Goldlewis.

oh great aba uninstall still has throw invul for some reason but her gauge doesn't go down when she gets a throw
epic

>>535997448
>are they gonna gut oki
You know you're playing Strive, right?

>>535992339
explain
axl bro !!!!!!!!!!

>>535995534
axl doesnt have kara moves

You were my perfect friend, right there until the end, I'm forever missing you until we meet again.

>>535997268
Faust is Laust.

Im tired of learning new match ups
Don't add more characters after jam miyauchi sama

>>535987580
Ill join

I wonder if ranked will die quickly like it does in most anime games. Though I think Strive has a healthy enough playerbase for it to do well

>>535997965
show me your r code and name
i am goint to challenge you

>>535997268
May all Sin players rot in bottom tier, for in the end, i won

Bought a cheap leverless to play FGs with because I'm tired of buying a controller every 6ish months. I'll play in the lobbies whenever I managed to figure this out or get too frustrated and return this shit. The learning curve is a bitch so far.

I feel like I'm turning insane, this is a typo and it should be intertwine and tilt right?
She can't use the parry during jealous rage.

So why did they suddenly decide to gut Anji's 2HS which was already a contender for the most pointless normal title

>first they take away h eisen's invuln
>now it doesn't even give hard knock down
leo officially doesn't have anything left lol
it's crazy bc they're still going to put him in top tier

>>536000445
poor leo he has nothing now... press F for poor leo

>>536000445
owari da... leo is bottom 1 now...

>>536000445
eisensturm... bery bery riskii...

It's gonna be so funny when Ram is somehow still top tier

>>536000402
His 6HS felt lonely in the extremely useless move club

Given she's basically unmolested isn't Unika top tier by default now? Her only bad matchup was getting pounded by her brother.

>>536000402
Its plus doe

>>535999821
lmao not even arcsys know the stupid names of Aba's moves

>>536000969
her pressure isn't as easy to loop now, her j.H lost like 20 active frames, she can't rely on guard crush to rape you
she might still be good just not "you block and you lose LOL" good.

>>536000615
>>536000726
>>536000835
he'll continue being a mid tier that gets called top tier ig... have fun taking johnny and hc cock
the zaturd cabal also seems to have won

>>536001665
Hot

Did Axl get buffed back into relevance this patch.... Looking for a reason to come back to strive...

>>535986296 (OP)
Why are top players on twitter acting like every top tier was dealt with and all the low tiers have been buffed to a perfect spot? It feels like I'm looking into a bizarro world where arcsys makes good patches when I view this stuff. What the hell is going on?

>>535997728
Nta but 6K wall bounce has higher damage routes with tornado iirc. I think the axl playerbase is miffed that once again his rushdown gets a bit worse in exchange for zoning crumps

>>535975081
>umisho
cant make this shit up

>>536002928
*crumbs

i'm going to come back to strive to get vanquisher real quick and uninstall again

>>536003153
who crippled her?

>>535987580
GolshiTO...

>>536003287
I did.
Now she can never leave me.

>>536003239
>not aiming for the #1 dual rating spot of your main’s badge
fraud

>>536003183
i liked crumps better, your post was more mysterious that way

>>536002541
they're obligated to, their livelihood is built on hype

>>536002928
Isn't that the whole point of the character? Can't even think about throwing a cube out without you bastards 5p'ing me in the face

>>536002285
They refuse to buff him they just made his routes a little more consistent and made grounded snail HKD

>>535987580
I'm down

>>536004034
So basically they're never going to make him not a joke

whiff rng gunshot XD

>Johnny is the only cool character in the game
>they nerf him into bottom 5 territory
Yeah I think I'm dropping this game

>>536004820
?

Somebody needs to study the correlation between the simplification of fighting games and the rise of AI.
It's ironic that fighting game CPUs are still notoriously retarded though.

>>536005329
Weird way to spell brown skinned basketball Bridget

>>536005715
i think a study about that would show that correlation and causation have an independent relationship

>>536005329
BOO HOO NIGGER GET A BRAIN YA CARRIED FAGGOT

>>536005715
Why would you study the correlation between two things that are completely causally unrelated?

>>536005715
I bet you thought this sounded way smarter in your head

>>536005715
nigga not everything is about AI

>>536006502
you know jeets use AI to code right?

>play Strive for the first time in months to warm up for ranked
>end up dropping my elo immensely like I always do after playing after a break
one last ride...

>>536006926
Yes, and I also know that there are craters on the moon. How is this relevant?

more than half of strives file size is just audio...

>>536006926
And? Your argument wasn't that fighting games are poorly made, it was that they were simple.

>>536007109
how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning ?

>>536007109
>>536007148
strive is a notable downgrade in quality from the previous iteration of guilty gear, a fact that can be tied to lower developer IQ, perhaps the simplification of the gameplay is also a result of that lowered developer IQ. low IQ developers would definitely use AI as a crutch

>>536007321
It's like 90% the same fucking dudes man. Now you're just reaching here buddy.

>>536005715
>>536006926
>>536007321
Bro you are a retard that thinks he isn't one stop posting.

>>536007321
I think you're throwing stones in a glass house dude (I am calling you low IQ)

>>536005715
are you the same dude who was perplexed they buffed a special jacko never uses because its bad?

>>536007127
as God intended

What do you think happens when Lucy does DP when they have not-stain on?

>>536006502
How do you know if it's correlation or causation? You study it.

>>536007127
60% of the human body is just water

>>536007694
I'm not even that faggot but why are you retards pretending he doesn't have a point?
Buffing a meme special won't make it not a meme

>>536007452
>It's like 90% the same
strive is guilty gear by moniker alone. it is a completely different game, like as different as street fighter is to tekken for example

>>536008118
retard

>>536008118
oh my gooooooood this general has so many dumb retards

>>536008208
>>536008287
i accept your concession

>>536003137
god please let umisho play I can't wait to omega clog the twitch chat, I pity the janiggers that have to deal with this shit

>>536008118
>street fighter is to tekken
Actually tekken and street fighter are different games? Are we just taking random parts of each others posts and arguing against it here.

>>536008118
Oh SHIT it's (You)

>>536008118
I think he means the same people working on the game.

>>536008390
You should NEVER feel sorry for jannies under any circumstance. No exceptions.

>>536008347
he was talking about the same dudes making the game you fucking troglodyte

keep replying to bait so the thread doesnt die again

what time is the patch coming out

I’ve played SF for years as my only fighting game but I want to start branching out now that I hit my personal goal of reach ultimate grand master there. I bought this and +R on sale. Can anyone point me to a good guide on starting this game/learning combos? I can’t find trials in this game and the understanding how things combo/overall neutral is difficult for me.

>>536008665
Maintenance is from 11pm to 2am (PST).

this general is so easy to bait lmao it never gets old, but anyway prove it's 90% the same devs, because strive was made by that hack katano and a bunch of interns

i was just baiting bro im not a retard
here look at me putting 2k hours into a fighting game i hate doe

merely pretending

Erm actually I didn't spend 2k hours in it I spent 2k hours on here shitposting about it, that's so much better

>>536007321
You think a Japanese game that entered developmennt in 2019 and released in 2021 was developed by jeets using AI? That's a year before ChatGPT released, by the way.
You know there's a difference between design and code, right?

Im excited for tomorrow, glad theres a shake up happening, I just hope matchmaking times are under 30 seconds on average

>>536002541
the retards that play this game don't understand how fighting games work. they still think that happy chaos being plus on whiff doesn't make him busted enough to ban (it does)

retard thinks i spend all my time here and didn't come just because of the new patch

>>536008973
never said i hate strive lol, just that i view it as a different game, separate from guilty gear, because it is different

>>536008118
>>536008826
You are the dumbest person these threads have had in weeks.

>>536009206
>it should be banned because I lose to it!!!!
did you sign the petition

>>536009365
>implying i play hc players at all
i don't consider you human lol

>>536009206
>AIEEEE THIS CHARACTER NEEDS A BAN
what are we fucking blazblue players?

do you guys know any cosplayers that'll dress up like a guilty gear character and show me her butthole? I know Dira has that I-No set with the videos that's pretty good though, so come up with sumfin new

>>536009297
this is the most active the thread has been in years, you're welcome

>>536009414
so you DID sign the petition

retard thinks this general is alive because of him

>>536009535
>he STILL doesn't get how correlation and causation work
That's actually really funny

>>536009518
There's that vinnegal chick who did a set as aba. Don't know if she showed her butthole in it though.

this general died because of me, i'm merely reviving it. and yes i am 50% of the posts here
i am arguing with myself most of the time, you got played

>>536009745
she never does, and a picture of said set is posted here

>>536008113
>Buffing a meme special won't make it not a meme
What? Any special can become obnoxious. Like the Elphelt bomb super

>We think Anji wasn't using 2HS enough
>So we made it the most dogshit normal in the game at 27 frame startup, quite literally the slowest normal in the game
>Now you can always leave a huge gaping hole and get hit by everything if it ever slips in your only 3 gatling routes
>We also made it slow enough so it can't be used in combos at all
BRAVO ARCSYS!

>>536009507
keep slurping sajam's cock you fucking retard i know you love your heckin' gud boy roll->bang coinflip and think it's 100% fair that you're still plus after it but anyone who takes fighting games seriously agrees that your character carries you and you're a subhuman for playing it

this thread is being derailed by stale bait

More like Loive

>>536009518
Now that we're on this topic are there any Jam cosplayers

>>536010486
women only cosplay hot characters

Do we know what time the patch is releasing?

who here day 1 vanquisher

>>536010784
I'm looking forward to being hardstuck in gold.

>>536010784
Probably me which sucks because I want to smurf

>>536010784
I'll get to the tekken equivalent of tekken king/tekken emperor and be satisfied.

>>536010784
>hop on ranked
>forced to play the most ghoulish MUs that i usually just dodge
gonna be a slow first week as i spend all my time afking and blocking the degens that play shit like hc/gld but after that maybe

More Lucy design stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9e4gKxabg

>>536010729

In connection with the upcoming update, maintenance will be conducted for Guilty Gear -Strive- on PS5/PS4/Xbox/steam/Windows.

▼Maintenance Schedule
August 20, 11:00 PM – August 21, 2:00 AM (PDT)
August 21, 8:00 AM – 12:00 PM (CEST)
*Maintenance times may vary.

https://x.com/GUILTYGEAR_PR/status/1958093887756714079

>>536010784
crossup pilebunker, my beloved

>>536010784
day 1 lucy vanquisher here

>>536011581
>August 20, 11:00 PM – August 21, 2:00 AM (PDT)
>August 21, 8:00 AM – 12:00 PM (CEST)
why does EU maintenance last an hour longer?

>>536011581
>2:00 AM (PDT)
as usual, it's going to be too late to play any games on the east coast...

>>536011581
The video also mentions 2.00 and ranked match but nothing new about either of them, just stuff we already know.

Lucy design is silly, she just has copied moves from other chars (Gio Cross-up, Baiken's Tsuki debuffs from +R, Xrd Chipp's invisibility).
Even her standing idle pose is just Lab Coat Android 21's.

im so happy we're wasting an entire character on an advertisement for a cartoon which was an advertisement for one of the shittiest rpgs ever made

I'm so happy Lucy sexo

I will be /ggg/'s best iron rank.

>>536012339
The kick and cross-up followup does feel like a copy, but it's more like a copy of Lambda's 236B than anything.

>>536012339
CDPR should’ve let them do Geralt/Ciri like they initially were

Odds scum dipper rank grind
Even brushing up venom

>>536012637
I guarantee they were not willing to pay whatever CDPR wanted up front for Geralt.

>>536012660
>venom chad
so fucking based...

What character should i play if I look like this

How do I learn this game fast? Best video resources?

>>536012448
>Miyauchi confirms it took several several meetings both in house and with CDProjekt to get the design going
>They also decided to waste a shitload of man hours into giving her 3 arcade mode storylines apparently
>They put some intern in patch duty who gets his ass handed by a bunch of noob killers and nerfs them all
Keeping their priorities straight, much like they did with 3on3. Its crazy how hard they are trying to kill the game for no good reason.

>>536012840
Just play it. Dive into ranked match tomorrow and get ready to have your ass beat. You are going to lose a lot.

>>536012810
Happy chaos or sol unironically.

>>536012810
Sin.

>>536012956
I don’t understand the combo routes in this game at all though.

The attack level reduction on Leo's bt.H means it won't have a huge slowdown on counterhit anymore right? That's actually a buff in my book. That stupid slowdown ate my stance cancel input every single time so i was always forced to do a suboptimal route.

>>536013153
Every character's combo theory is different so you'll have to be more specific about what's giving you trouble. Comboing is not hard execution-wise at all, with a few exceptions.

When is order sol coming back…literally my favorite fig nigga of all time

>>536004820
Was expecting the blowback to hit her. It's fun playing Sol against new players because they think DI Tyrant Rave is unbeatable and broken

thinking about preordering that giovanna statue

>>536013332
I’m coming from street fighter where everyone has the same combos and I can get to master rank in 45 minutes every time a new one drops. I guess I just have to get used to this then

>>536008753
The mission mode is the tutorial/trials.
>how to combo
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Mechanics#Gatling_Combination

>>536013153
Just button button special

>We made 6HS useless
>We now made 2HS useless
One more patch and they will make 5HS self destroy him on use, Anji might be the only character who has to actively avoid using his normals

>>536013527
The universal aspect of combo theory is in the gatling system. Unlike SF, normals can cancel into other normals. The basic rules are:
>K>D
>S>H
>P>P
>any normal into any special OR super
>specials do NOT cancel into supers

Dustloop will have a list of combos for every character.

>>536013527
>I’m coming from street fighter where everyone has the same combos
Nigga Strive is even more streamlined

>>536013874
>K>D
>S>H
>P>P
this is so sad, what ever happend to PKSHD gatlings?

>>536014046
The what now?

>>536014121
you used to be able to do P > K > S > H or P > S > H or S > 6K > P or a ton of other variations

>>536014046
cut to reduce the value from non-c.S starters

>>536013527
>flexing master rank
The game doesn't even start until master rank lil bro

>>536013874
Cancelling any normal into any special feels so natural to me that now i feel restricted playing something like SF

>>536013874
>specials do NOT cancel into supers
kara supers?

>>536014503
Karas aren't normal cancels. They have special rules.

>>536014346
I know. Equivalent to master in 6 would be like plat in 5 based off how people play. I’m just saying I’m able to learn a character in no time compared to me getting started with strive.

Maybe it’s because I’m starting with venom. Thanks for everyone’s help.

>>536012491
the only reason she is is because arcsoy didnt design her lol
if it were up to them she would be in a burka

>>536014828
Waiting for burka or hijab Lucy mod.

>>536014674
Where's the image of LordKnight next to the Millia cosplayer?

>>536014828
every girl in this game is sexo thoughbeit

>>535997268
Uhhh, kissing, sucking, slapping, fondling, queezing, playfully biting big boobs

Coomed to Dizzy earlier, won't tell you to what. But just know this, a pig was involved

You really wonder if they were really that passionate about their Lucy inclusion when they couldn't even bother to negotiate the fucking collab rights for more than 2 years lmao.
I don't believe CDPR were that jewish to keep Arcsys for just having one of their song permanently when they let trigger, another jp company, just have it in the anime OST forever.
Once again ShartSys gonna Shartsys, like ranked mode coming tomorrow I garantee you will not fucking work, you have been warned

>round start range 2H counterhit gives a worse combo
Damn it Miyauchi. How am I supposed make lucy players quit the game now

>>536015516
Where is this from? I swear there was a video on youtube about a funny story involving LK.

>>536014339
ironic that all it did (along with poor defensive mechanic changes) was make it so people just go for c.S stagger pressure and always get insane reward

>>536014926
These animators made sure Ram's thighs and Baiken's tits moved and jiggled during their animations wtf are you taking about

Can someone who thinks Johnny is going to be bottom 5 now explain exactly why?

Who do I play in this if my SF5 main was Kage and I went from Marisa to Terry in SF6.

>>536016627
No one but Johnny players is thinking that.
He's going to be a fine mid tier, in worst case scenario is still right below top tier.

>>536016530
burka posters are literally retarded
they've burned out their dopamine receptors by jerking off so much so they think anything showing less skin than a bikini is censored

>>536016530
Wrong reply?

>>536016627
johnny players aren't aware of how immensely carried they are

>>536016917
Actually yeah sorry

>>536016627
His leap special projectile followup can’t crush 6Ps anymore I think
His stepdash frame data nerf gives his knockdowns and pressure gaps again

>>536011903
Homie unless you work graveyard, nobody would be able to play at 11pm

>>536015993
its from a jiyuna video about blazblue i think

Gio status?

If you're not vanquisher I don't even want to read your retarded opinions
Get the fuck out of here

>>536017961
Pregnant.

>>536017610
>vault isn't 100% uncontestable
holy shit it's so over for these carried retards
fuck all johnny players

>>536018014
considering we only have like 4 people who are 2k elo, you're not going to be reading many posts
feel free to add me to your RSS feed

Ranked queue will single handedly kill the playability of Strive in south america

if this ranked system is anything like the dix ranked system getting vanquisher will probably be the equivalent of having around 1850 elo

>>536001415
Oh yeah remember when that move was actually useful but they made it garbage while also having the gall to say it was a buff

>>536018420
Oh no... anyway

Bridget's buffs sound really useless and weak desu

It drives me up the wall that strive patch notes aren't posted as actual text that you can copy and paste. Like for what fucking reason do they do that

>>536010114
>literally the slowest normal in the game
No way, Nago has to have something slower

People are talking about achieving Vanquisher tomorrow like ranked has been out for 2 years. If you really think you compare to the top players in the world who are also racing for the crown, then explain to me why no one here will post proof of hitting Vanquisher in tomorrow's thread.

>>536018420
god is real and he loves us and this is the proof

>>536019174
I am expecting gold, hoping for platinum. No way I'm getting vanquisher. I might even get silver.

why aren't they adding whos ready for tomorrow with the other songs

>>536018818
Because Bridget didn't need buffs.

>>536019174
im a top 50 bedman i can crack it

>>536019174
>If you really think you compare to the top players in the world
I already am one of the top players in the world, sucks to sucks famalam

>>536019486
sneed is the only /ggg/er on that level

Mystery niggas

>Testament is supposed to be androgynous(to my knowledge)
>JP voice could be a girls or just a soft spoken, feminine male
>English voice is just a straight up dude

Bridget's cock sound really useless and weak desu

>>536019625
Lucy, RoboKy, Jam and Omega Nerville

friendship ended with pools closed avatar
now rebecca avatar is my new friend

>>536019696
the english VA is trans so you're a bigot for thinking the voice sounds masculine

https://youtu.be/1wVb4iZ-PUQ
Miyauchi add this NOW

>>536012903
3v3 was probably the testing bed for tokon

Silver rank not ready for my Venom i haven't played since week 1

>>536020114
too bad exactly 0 people played it

Since tokon is a thing now can 3v3 be changed to something that only needs 2 people like kof or regular tag with no items?. Like for 2.0

>>536020376
looks like someone missed out....

>>536005715
>>536006926
The chasing to simplify mechanics for the wider audience has been a thing for decades way before AI slop. Stop being retarded

>>536019174
I'm out of town

I think the biggest winner of this patch is unironically Slayer despite the risc and yrc changes and the fact that he got slightly nerfed
He's still going to do more damage than anyone else and none of his bullshit was actually nerfed

>>536019696
The old voice effect had a male and female voice layered on top of each other, it had been like that since the first game. Guess that would've been too expensive for Strive.

i welcome all my new mid tier friends

>>536020571
this but May

Why do people keep saying 3v3 was a test for tokon when tokon has been in development way before 3v3 came out and is being developed by a completely different team? Do people just forget arcsys made dbfz?

>>536019901
KEK I didn't know even know that

>>536018818
they can't really buff him or change him too much because he's one of the few characters where S->HS->special isn't a free default strategy, they would either need to make him more braindead than they already did, or buff his already reasonable kit, which would make him too strong.

>>535995126
snk never did this.

>>536019583
Sorry mate I don't make /ggg/ my whole personality so I can be cancelled by troons

>>536019174
Sucks to be in NA, EU has way less top players and I guess it will make ranked experience easier for my 1k7 elo ass.

>>536020694
I always felt that the effect was only really effective and otherworldly in GG1, everywhere else it was just a dude with a weird echo.

All the fags that say it was some great predictor of him getting a tranny va 25 years later is retarded in any case.

>>536018420
good. build up your scene if you want to play

you know all this time ive still been getting raped by zato despite everyone saying hes weak so him getting buffed just means im going to get raped more

>>536020564
That town? Inside me.

my bussy ache

>>536023780
why are you getting raped by him? are you swinging into his invincible eddie shield? are you failing to deal with his flight in neutral? if you just think about what you're doing that is getting you raped you can stop doing it in the future

With the changes to RISC I think some characters may actually do MORE damage, at least in their ideal scenarios, and likely more easily than before (shorter combos, possibly better oki).
>Nago 6H
>Sol c.S > CL HVV WS
>Pot [2 -3 buttons] > HPB

These have to potential to be hilarious with all the RISC damage frontloaded. Nago may kill Milia with CH 6H > 6H. Caveat: unless I'm retarded or somethin IDK

>>536023780
"Bad" characters in modern games are nowhere near as bad as bad characters in older games, so even though Zato is ranked low he still has some stuff.

Also his mix is still good.

>>536024153
what are you supposed to do when he puts up his shield? do you just have to wait? i always struggle to kill eddie too. i cant predict the frog and once i block it i'm already getting mixed to hell

>>536024238
You're not wrong but it would need full RISC and full RISC barely happens unless you're not using FD for some reason.
At Medium RISC the dmg doesn't seem to be that much different or higher even on short combos.

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>>536024706
Sir this is the Guilty Gear general

>>536024539
you can throw him or delay your attack to hit him as he tries to cancel the shield into something else, or in some cases waiting might be the best option. you can kill eddie with 2p or something when he does the low claw attack (you might trade but it's worth to get eddie out of the way)

>>535987580
depends on if it’s on the weekend but yeah

>>536024706
Sister... I know thread hopping fills your 4chan addiction but stop having 3 generals tab open.

>>536019174
I made hotashi one and done me I think Vanquisher will be pretty easy, especially if granblue’s master is any indication

>>536024820
>>536025072
not him, but considering FFXIV is the FGC retirement home, it's not that off topic

>>536023780
Zato offense has always been completely fucking degenerate and there's no real shame in losing to him, especially if you don't understand how his neutral works
The big thing is just to not let him do drunken shade > frog/pierce from fullscreen and how to play against Eddie

>>536025201
I guess XIV is probably more relevant to this general than Xrd is

>>536010784
ill try but realistically it will take a couple days

>everything she does is a mixup
>has a fullscreen poke
>can convert any hit into wall break meterless
>can both crush mids and low profile
>has a 5 separate neutral skips including a dive kick
>has a guard crush special and a guard crush invincible super
>has the super with the highest damage in the game
someone explain to me why I-No isn't a top tier

>>536025403
Would Milia be a good mom? What if her son popped a boner in the bath with her?

>>536025502
because she gets beaten by characters with dps (top tiers)

>>536025201
I didnt like ffxiv so im denying your claim

>>536025502
extremely interactable offense
her fullscreen poke literally loses to people running at her
low damage
her neutral skips are bad without meter
megalomania isn't the highest damage super in the game

>>536025201
I've heard this before but why specifically FFXIV?

>>536025502
they nerfed ZANNEN NE it’s all good man

>>536025903
>extremely interactable offense
is this interactable offense in the room with us right now?

I'm celestial but I can't even fuzzy jump

>>536025502
>divekick into minus frames
>stroke into minus frames
Lad that's not a neutral skip. She can't even cheese you with DP after like Sols love to do with bringer

>"but when you have 50 meter..."
you're playing guilty gear. Most of the cast can skip neutral with 50 meter

>>536026723
yea

>>536025502
Dive kicks and low profiles are not neutral skips

>>536021458
>>536019696
Well don't beat yourself up over it. It's a trans woman so... originally was a guy. Your radar wasn't far off.

>>536028112
We believe that trans women are women here, chud.

>>536028112
That's not cool, Mayposter.

>>536028396
Can't be a real woman if you have to define it as trans woman.

>>536025502
99% of her playerbase suck. The 1% carries her PR so hard its not even fair. Thanks Daru

>>536028396
what is a woman?

>>536030536
a miserable pile of secrets

I'm gonna send this exchange to arcsys so that May gets nerfed for transphobia, just like Sin.

>May becomes jaded and transphobic after Bridget dumps her for Unika
The lore...

will everyone start at the same rank?

this general is so ass now

>>536031534
i assume it will be based on your floor

>>536031654
yeah god forbid we talk about the game

>>536024420
The thing is the spread of tech and getting MU knowledge back then was harder unless you were in a dense scene with people who were good at the character and footage was not that easy to acquire so match up familiarity was more relevant. Nowadays we have a ton of MU vid, rollback netcode is a must, you can cruise to a character discord/here to find MU and training mode is actually comprehensive. Bad isn't as bad as it was back then but with meta's shifting quickly they get left behind.

>>536024238
I'm curious how much they reduced the effect for command grabs, pot buster already does way too much damage, now even without a RC into combo you have to worry about taking extra damage from the 5 frame armored unblockable after he does a blockstring with 3 strike/throw points and you have 50% risc, unless it's so nerfed that spending risc on a grab is basically a waste command grab characters got hella buffed by the risc change

>>536030709
This guy gets it...

>>536031534
>>536031660

>>536031341
uniburi
looks inside
not confirmed and they share slightly suggestive dialogue with each other
gearsisters.... does daisuke HATE lesbians?

>>536032023
neat, I expect to go 3-7 as a floor 10 scrub

>>536032023
there's usually an underlying, invisible MMR that's used during placement matches so that someone who's vanquisher on sol won't be stomping 10 noobs during his ky placements

>>536032257
yeah and i expect a similar system will be used to convert floor badges to a starting MMR on day 1
but it might not, ASW kind of sucks at this sort of thing

How long does maintenance usually last?

>>536032473
Well, we don't know there, since a lot of people didn't really play at the Tower, they just played on the Park.

Is the patch at 4 am est?

>>536032524
>>536032580
you can play the patch at 1 am est, and server maintenance ends at 3 am

>>536022449
There's clearly gaps they could improve upon though

Trans women...are women. Mods, 50 thou all transphopic chuds

They also said you cant even get into certain lower ranks if you do burst or RC btw
I THINK it was the collab talk about Lucy in the anime panel

blocking all venom players

>>536032798
Eating 'phelt ass

>>536034830
>50 thou
What the hell does this even mean

>>536034830
Dale "Get Yo Dick Split" Wilson would NOT say this.

>>536022449
>S->HS->special isn't a free default strategy
>on le yoyo RPS man of unpunishable pushback distance
uh huh

>>536028396
>male DNA

>>535987858
>>535988698
>>535988946
>>535989264
>>535989393
>>535989868
>>535998214
>>536003332
>>536004079
>>536024939
planning it out, i would probably host it the following weekend, being either the 23rd or 24th.

other than that would probably host it the same as it had been before, being a temporary discord purely for bracket matchmaking, then just a challonge tourney to sign up on.

there will likely be a stream
any disagreements?

>>536036428
>being either the 23rd or 24th.
you mean the 30th or 31st right?
i will be out of town this weekend so i definitely can't join if that's your plan

The pathetic slimes that inhabit Soive are going to have a rude awakening tomorrrow. I, the XrdGAWD, have returned to take my rightful place as rank 1, and there's nothing any of you can do to stop me.

>>536036797
silver hands typed this post

>>536036797
Main?

With the venom changes when would you use S carcass over H carcass?

>>536034830
Dale if he was a strive player

>>536023780
just yrc him
if he's baiting your YRC then he can't mix you
it's really that simple
jab pierce, superjump foward oppose, and airthrow flight

The reason Leo got gutted while Slayer didn’t is because Slayer is bridgetcoded and Leo is Solcoded. This is the problem with modern game balancing.

>>536025502
she is top tier

>>536037434
Let me just travel in time and answer you bro
We don't know if it really replaces it yet bwo

>>536039360
Leo got gutted? I don't usually go into backturned after H flashkick anyway, i usually just do a H fireball and a blockstring to build up RISC

>>536037434
i have been thinking
its PROBABLY better for blockstrings midscreen because even if the strike part misses they will get hit by the ball unlike H carcass

>>536040520
I didn't actually read the patch notes yet I just searched Leo on twitter

it's hilarious how bad strive players are at their own game, 99.9% of them don't have fundies
they just autopilot their offense and hope the opponent can't defend against it. in neutral they fall apart if you don't rush them down like an enraged ape and even slightly delay your approach or dashblock. and none of them can block at all. it's going to be an easy ride to vanquisher tonight.

>>536042187
see you in plat :^)

>>536042187
>99.9% of them don't have fundies
the whole point of the "satisfying damage" and three interaction structure of the game is so that strivers don't need to think about fundies

>>536040520
why

>>536042187
So youre a tourist

>>536036428
sounds good

>>536039360
Did you not keep up with the S4 tournament scene. Trannies went back to Leo

>>536039360
Amazing how retarded you sound and how wrong you are even for your retardation. You forget about sonicfox playing Leo?

>>536042187
this is literally like every competitive game ever
only like the top 1% know how to play then the top .1% actually execute it properly

>>536042187
Based retard.

>Maintenance in 40 minutes.
It's time.

Lucy's page is up:
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/character/luc/

Out of all the characters is strive, I don't think there is a character that is more downplayed than Milia. Milia players unironically think they are bottom 5 but in reality, they play a single player and only give the opponent a turn when they get a stroke irl from being 300+ lb nigcels or trannies.

>>536052010
I'd say it's I-no, but Millia is up there too.

I thought lucy would be sin but worse, but it looks like they decided to make sin sin but worse

Lucy's extra normal/gatling followups are from f.S and 2S like Unika, but she does not have 5H-H or 2H-H followups.

>>536014614
as a fellow SF player, the combos can be hard if you want them to be, but i've been winning more than half my matches in my shitter floors just fine with slash, slash, heavy, special -> roman cancel if they get blocked.

just imagine going jab jab jab tatsu as ryu except it does 40% and it's plus on block with meter

Was Leffen crying about the patch? Last I heard he was livid that Ino was still okay.

bro where's the patch on steam?

>>536054964
It's gone.

>>536054964
i eated the patch :3

>>536054964
here
>>536011581

>>536055361
Fuck you Goldlewis

it's past 11 pm where is the update

>>536055621
that's just the maintenance schedule, where's the patch download so i can creampie the DLC

>>536054208
He knows HC is clearly top 1 now but he hates that he still has to compete against pot

I don't remember reading if they mentioned it anywhere, but I seriously hope the Ranked Mode is ft2 or ft3 system rather than the forced 3 Matches regardless of W/L from the Tower.

>>536056658
pot got hard nerfed though

>>this is a dust
this game is made by monkeys

>>536056681
they copy pasted the all the code from SF6 so it probably is

>>536056829
the fun part is that the first ~15 frames of the animation are the same as his crouch!

>>536003153
>>536003287
It was me. Our trip to Poundtown was so rough, she can't walk straight. She's begging to go again though.

>>536056829
as a new player, i find the fact that dusts look absolutely nothing like overheads to be jarring.
everything other attack looks fine, but the orange glow feels tacked on

>>536056758
I havnt played in a couple years, i heard pot got mega buffed. What made him op? And what did they nerf? Id love a qrd this seems super surprising, all i know is pot sucked ass all the way until i quit

>>536057491
When i first started playing ggst my friend played chipp, and chipp would slam the ground so i blocked low and i still got hit, pissed me off so fucking much

>>536056758
That doesn’t stop Leffen from upplaying lol. He even said Sin is still fine during his stream

>>536057491
it's really hard to make an animation that both looks like it hits overhead and looks like it would launch you into the sky, adding the orange flash isn't perfect but it was a huge improvement

>>536057643
Remember when leffen said chipp was bottom 5 after winning evo spamming drill kick?

Overhead is a fanmade term thoughever

>>536057778
>it's really hard to make an animation that both looks like it hits overhead and looks like it would launch you into the sky

>>536057506
Lots of things
>Super Armor
They gave him super armor on a few moves (Pot Buster, Slide Head and Hammerfall), they took away Slidehead's now, but it was the least useful one.
>Garuda
Garuda Impact became a projectile so now you can't FD it to get Pot out of your face, it's still a + a billion Guard Crush.
>Heat Tackle
They gave him a 623K that snipes people in the air from nearly fullscreen and gives HKD on hit and is usable as a combo ender
>Giganter Kai
There's still pretty much nothing that beats Giganter Kai on neutral, a lot of chars are just forced to block it and get in Pot's range
>F.D.B.
F.D.B. can deflect pretty much anything and it comes out much faster, which makes him pretty much unzoneable with projectiles, and it also has way more range than before.
>The introduction of Wild Assault
First they gave him White Wild Assault which was a neutral skip get-in-your-face invincible move, but they decided that was way too stupid so they changed it to Blue White Assault, which is not invul but moves him forward a lot and Guard Breaks on block
>Pot Buster
They gave this more range and a hit of super armor because they removed Kara cancel, then they gave kara cancel back but kept the range (I think) and the armor
+ some other changes to his frame data and other gameplay changes like less overall dmg for pretty much everyone except him.
This patch will nerf him a bit by making Guard Crush YRC-able and push much further, and some Pot specific nerfs, depending on how much Hammerfall speed nerf is, he could be put back quite a bit or be pretty much the same, we'll have to see.

>>536058441
that's basically what normal Sol's is and it looks very silly, he bops you on the noggin and you fly in the exact opposite direction

>>536058441
This only makes a bit of sense with big weapons, but even then it still looks like it would be wack because > hit comes from above > you get send upwards > ???.
I can't see it working on like Bridget or Jam for example. I think May and Faust got good dust animations.

so when does the patch become accessible? in another hour?

>>536059087
Whenever they feel like it.
Could be soon, could be after maintenance, just sit and wait.

I'm really confused when people complain about the patch releasing because doesn't it pretty consistently release around 7:30 - 8:00 UTC? Like it'll be really soon, if you're invested in Strive enough to wait for a patch to come out then surely you must have experienced this sometime within the last few years, right?

Pretty sure a lot of people haven't been invested in Strive at all and are only coming back because of the patch.
If it wasn't for Ranked Mode, I wouldn't be touching this game again.

>>536059591
you think my memory works that far back?

I'm assuming every regular here is going to make it to vanquisher, how many of you are going to be peaking below that? I'm thinking I'll get stuck at gold/plat

>>536060154
I would be Vanquisher with Sin but they took my Elk Hunt and Hoof Stomp midscreen routes so who knows

>>536058627
What the actual fuck are they thinking? And a hit of super armor on buster????? Fucking WHAT

>>536060154
ill aim for a high rank on the actual leaderboards after vanquisher on millia, and will probably peak a bit below vanquisher on testament.

no matter how many buffs or nerfs millia gets, nobody will practice the matchup for longer than 10 seconds.

>>536060154
I won't be making it to vanquisher any time soon, but if I play enough and keep learning maybe one day. Also, when all the good players fuck off to the 2X and Tokon releases coming up maybe I'll move up a rank.

>>536060154
why would you ever assume that? /ggg/ is ass at fighting games (i'm an exception to this of course)

it's up

>>536060154
My only limiter to how far I will go depends purely on how dead my region may end up being.
If somehow ranked doesn't immediately shit the bed and my region gets people playing, then I'll make it to Vanquisher.

>>536060559
i already downloaded it and didn't tell anyone, you snooze you lose

>artemis doesnt launch high enough to combo off of
>artemis launches low enough to not get hdisk off of
ah. so it was a nerf.

got it

>>536060257
They just happened to have a totally, very non-biased game designer that made the game really good for big body characters by making everyone's options against them shit.
Seems like his team somehow convinced him to slap Pot on the wrist this patch by nerfing his already least threatening move.

>wifi detection added
nobodys gonna play w/ me anymore :/

>>536060918
Previous thread showed you how to fake that by bridging connections. Keep on rockingu

lucy seems pretty good first time mashing on her, but i gotta get vanquisher on my main first

taking away all indication that you're in stagger is retarded

>>536024238
lol

the indication is that you get hit, duh

>>536060793
wait no im retarded it just goes into hkd this is sick

>>536061420
god

>instant kill doesn't trigger until they're at 15% health
what's the point

venoms balls lasting for 5 seconds instead of 2 seconds is really noticeable, he's still no xrd venom though

>>536024238
lol
Ch 2H > 2H > HPB is 402, raw potbuster on full risc is 254, raw HPB 320 (all on milia for the shock value)
339 / 357 for cs > 2h > HN > wallbreak / 2h > 2h > HN > wallbreak

>>535997448
You're an I-no main after this long? Why are you playing this shit game? They hate us, man

>>536061420
kamige

>>536061420
when does this ever happen in a real match

>>536061420
BASED BASED BASED

>>536060846
teach me your ways master

>>536060846
ummmm you cant do that

>>536024238
lol
405 for the usual CH c.S > dash c.S > CL HVV > CL TR, 100% risc c.S does 113 damage alone lol
395 meterless off CH c.S > 5H > 5H > CL fafnir > c.S > CL HVV > j.D

>>536063504
last horizon doko

can't get used to new wild assault

>>536062479
how much risc does something like c.S>2H>Hammerfall 66RC>Garuda build and how much damage does that make a PB after the guard crush do? I'm not reinstalling the game until I see how the patch actually plays out.

>>536058826
He bounces you lmao

it's so lame to wait for a patch and then it does nothing for your character

>>536063971
would you have preferred to be nerfed?

>>536064069
I would prefer any option that makes me feel like playing again

How bad is Ram now you think? I’ve been thinking about trying strive again and playing her but wanted to see the new patch.

>>536063594
pilebunker WS pilebunker is 322
>
Sol HMC is 391, 41X with any hit or two leading into it.

>>536063803
Like 35-40% and 210 from the potbuster after (again, milia)

>>536058970
spikes you into the ground so hard you bounce.
it makes sense with videogame logic

when does the maintenance end?

>>536064867
in 420 seconds nigga

I like new Johnny because he doesn't fuck you off vault and he doesn't fuck you off YRC and he doesn't fuck you off throw (as much)

new axl 6k is kino actually
we're back

Wow, Sin is actually completely dead. I guess we had our fun being a functional character. Back to bottom 1

>>536065502
>i can't be carried anymore
he's still top 3

Potemkin single handedly killed strive

>>536065574
I played Sin when he was a mere infant in terms of power. When all he could do in most MUs was run up DP and hope for the best. I do not fear returning to the pits of struggling, but I will not allow you to disregard the reality of the situation

>>536063971
found this bug. double delilah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>536011581
i guess the CEST time is the only accurate one, 50 more minutes

>>536065745
having a dp already put him in the top 50% of the cast
the only respectable strugglebus character was s2 bed

>>536066000
it's up

>>536066317
Delusional, but you can believe what you wanna believe pal

SO WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHATS YOUR POINT OF VIEW THERES A PARTY SOON DO YOU WANNA GO

>opponent found notification doesn't have a sound effect
it's over

Someone show the Asuka buffs i can't play the patch til i get home

>>536067417
just turn off confirm opponent

Holy shit fish fucking sucks now

>>536064069
nta but i've gotten nerfed every single patch since launch and never been given a single fun thing in exchange
i dont have the will to boot up, every single character gets so much new shit and i'm just stuck kicking rocks

placements finished

>>536068126
i think everyone placed diamond 1, they copy pasted sf6 ranked

>>536068190
i'm a floor 9 shitter, i really doubt i'll place that high.
gonna do the placements and report back

>>536068126
hopefully the MR system is good like in dix

>>536068292
>>536068190
>>536068126
>110 rp per win
there better be a fucking winstreak system

I haven't played Giovanna since her new Chauve move was added, is she any different in neutral or do you only use that in combos?

>>536060793
I'm not a Millia player but on point blank Artemis you get 2p 6HS into presumably some Millia bullshit

>>536068190
>think everyone placed diamond 1,
no

>first game is a 7f rollback sol that teleports constantly
fuck

>>536068502
artemis CH you get cS
artemis raw hit you get a throw disk basically
sdisk changes lets you cS > 2H > msdisk loop
it also lets you cS > 2S > 2H > 5K > cS[1] > iad tf 50/50

very nice changes

>>536068627
why are you playing against a wifi player with a high ping.

if you aren't already a 3000+ rp vanquisher, you might have a learning disability

>>536068509
just assumed since i lost a ton of placements and got diamond, i guess if you win them all you get diamond 3

https://x.com/hhsaikou2/status/1958444525174894877
Unironically a useless move now, what the fuck lmao

>>536068740
>vanquisher
>rp
it's called DR, i think you have the learning disability

>johnnys movement is so ass its even worse than when he released
lmao based fuck that nigga but god damn he feels like ass to play now.

>>536068809
Deserved

>>536068809
what if they timed it to hit the opponent?

>>536068809
>if I can't press my unbeatable jump in at the top of the screen and have it stay out for literally half a second then it's useless
Ramsisters...

>>536068809
>ramtards have to actually play the game now
OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I fucking hate blocking mixups all the time, thats all you do in this fucking game, fucking worst fg ever

>>536068809
yeah im thinking based

>fg reaches the end of its life
>devs ruin it with a shitpost patch to kill it and force you to buy their new game
every time xd

>>536068740
just fought a 3605 chipp that couldn't safe jump and kept doing i.AD j.S and getting back thrown

>>536069203
the patch is good tho?

Surely they've implemented a penalty for rage quitters right?

>>536069278
>hc buffed
>zato buffed
it's SHIT you fucking RETARD

>>536069405
kys monkey

got your boo. :)

>>536069435
if you're a zaturd congratulations your "char that was never good xD" is now top tier again
if you're an hc retard literally fucking kill yourself

>>536069405
You can actually 2P zato's new move

>3 bar on match select
>in game is 6f rollback

>>536069405
The new Zato special is a meme and Eddie gauge is 1 second faster, pedantic retard.

Yeah Pot feels basically the same, but I have a feeling he will get moved down a few tiers in the new hype e-celeb tierlists

>>536069606
>rounding "1.7 seconds faster" down to "1 second faster"
you are subhuman.

>>536068809
Heartbreaking: Ram Players Forced to Learn About Timing

>>536069606
Its day 1 nigga how do you know if its a meme or not.

its literally minute 1 and people have already mastered lucy
goes to show how baby mode and shallow strive is

Too bad region is dead

>>536069745
it's been 4 years nigga move on

>>536069785
no, i don't think i will

Still outside, how's the RISC feel?

>>536069438
the other day i was desperate to play an fg and reinstalled cotw, sat in matchmaking for 10 minutes, didn't get a game, and uninstalled it

>>536069718
Tene's been laughing about it. Then again, I never trust Zato mains
Speaking of memes. ABA dead and buried
https://x.com/hhsaikou2/status/1958440947827802471

>>536069745
Its been 4 years. You're not wrong but still just let it go. Mash some buttons knowing that this games skill ceiling and gap are insanely narrow and have fun.

>>536069857
Its weird. Anji can do near 20% damage by hititng you with Rin on max Risc. Then Nago can ToD Potemkin at max risc with 6H.

ayo

>>536069861
>i dont trust zato mains i just repeat the things that they say online
and then you wonder how they got away with all of s1 LMAO you fucking retard you literally push their agenda FOR THEM

>>536069963
>still not vanquisher
ngmi

>>536069980
Nta but Tene's crying isnt without merit. Zato really was dead s2 onwards.

>>536069859
you live in the third world.

>>536069938
I was under the impression from looking into the patch notes that 100% RISC basically does smidge lower damage than the previous patch.
Only the percentages lower than 100% are affected a lot.

>do placement matches with sol
>win 8/10
>diamond 1
>play placement matches with leo
>win 7/10
>diamond 3
Nigga what lmao.

>>536069745
strive is just fancy rps with retarded balance

>>536068190
>>536068274
won 6/10 and placed gold 3

>>536070098
he was mid at worst and tene, much like every other zato player, is a no-skill hack fraud that's been carried by every character he's ever touched.

>>536070139
usa actually, which isn't a region that plays cotw.
but no region really does, just the handful of people who think they have a shot at the saudi money LOL

the patch is a flop. strive is dead.

>>536070139
Which is ironic considering only in tje 3rd world is snk actually alive

>ft2 sets
Robbery gawds stay winning

>>536069203
bold of you to think that the enshittification patch didn't already happen

>>536070160
probably gave you higher rank opponents

>>536070335
they laid the foundation at the start of s3 and it's only been getting worse since then, now that they've announced tokon they just don't have a reason to be subtle anymore lol

>>536070238
>usa actually, which isn't a region that plays cotw.
now i know you're lying about not being able to "find a match"
https://x.com/ATRyoSakazaki/status/1956464342196494512

maybe i am washed up, just lost ranked to the rank 4 potemkin on puddle.farm

3k RP = 1800 elo
4k RP = 1900 elo
getting matched against 3Ks feels free

why isnt replay takeover a thing in 2025

does having a higher number in a rank means its better i.e. is diamond 3 betetr than diamond 1?

>>536070415
>listening to MAX FUCKING DOOD of all people
well well well opportunity number five billion to post my favorite webm

>>536070538
yes

>>536070378
Didnt though about that,makes sense. I only just realized it shows rank above HP bar. Still I was like the fuck ArcSys but then its arcsys after all so anything is possible.

>>536070510
crutch for noobs who can't learn how to pilot the character they want to lab against, not high prio

>>536070590
... motherfucker, do you have eyes? he's getting matches through matchmaking, and the people in the comments are saying the same.

why does lucy's hair colour not change on different colours?

>>536070590
why do you all post this acting like you guys wouldn't get your ass kicked in rev 2 as well?

>>536070716
I dunno but I'm sure it has made a few people mad that neither does her skin color so it's fine with me

>>536070694
he says in the vid "when i was in usa i was getting matches," meaning in the vid, he's not in usa.
>people in the comments saying the same
the subhumans that watch max dood will repeat literally anything he says. he could tell them grass is pink and they'd agree.
dude's a shill.

>>536070804
i played it more than he did, got my ass kicked more than he did, had more fun than he did, and tried harder than he did.

>>536070635
I dont have the dlc lil bro I cant lab

Faustbros, who are you switching to? The final nail in the coffin for me was seeing how unusable YRC is for him now. I am finally freeing myself and playing the new white woman.

>>536070716
First time seeing a guest char? The contract with whoever owns the guest will have absurd stipulations on how the character has to be represented from which ArcSys can't deviate from. You're lucky they are allowed to recolor her clothes, 2B in Granblue has black or white clothes in all her colors.

>>536071008
your top tier gets nerfed so you're moving on to the new one? no shame

incredible I love ft2 online just to get ran over by some fag I see for the first time

>5+ more months of this
jejejejejejejej

>>536070716
CDPR told them not to go too far from og design probably.

>>536071008
Nobody is playing Lucy, shill.

>>536071118
Sin or Anji fraud?

>>536071008
You get actual max range confirms off f.S>2H now.

>>536070510
It's been in +R for a few years

>>536071198
it makes doing ch f.s into tornado easier but it’s just not enough considering he doesn’t like the system changes, you get f.s into 2h instead of being -5 on f.s now. it’s a QoL buff at most and something he already should have had

How are people getting the celestial border if the challenge isn't a thing?

So Johnny is that bad now that Uwabami is currently streaming with a big ass message saying Johnny is ass.

incredible, "no" is the default option so you can missclick it and cancel the game by acident

https://x.com/Yeezers2/status/1958443297954754940
Slayer cant get anything off CH 2H now. Its ogre

Is there footage of the updated hammerfall?

>>536071639
>WOWWWWW MY GIGANTIC SCREENWIDE DISJOINT THAT'S SAFE ON BLOCK DOESN'T LEAD TO 90% METERLESS ANYMORE?!?!?!

Has anyone checked if Ram now doesn't just win the match by making you block midscreen?

>>536071639
He gets cS 6H pb meterless and bwa cancel still gives loops. It’s a slight nerf desu

>>536071453
Hes ass now.

slayer players are still as carried as ever

despair

I hope that nigger who one and doned me on axl will get raped in 10 seconds

>win
rematch
>lose
leave
simple as

these fucking lucy retards are ruining my placements

You can only reply to this post if you have a higher RP than Hotashi.

Anyone learn anything new from Lucy's story yet?

>>536070635
>the game designed to be as noob friendly as possible
>erm the crutch for noobs is actually low priority!

How does elo convert to ranked?
Is vanquisher supposed to be 2k players? 1k9+? 1k8+?

>accept a single 100 ms match
>uwabami johnny
thanks for reminding me that this millia character is quite literally reliant on the opponent not knowing the matchup

are they gonna add cross-play for Strive on the Nintendo Switch version or what?

>>536072250
i landed on plat 2... im so fucking washed,...

I have the feeling me fluking my way to a diamond 3 placement is just going to make ranked miserable for me

>>536070510
All the capable programmers went to work on Tokon. Dizzy’s ice field made that very clear

>>536072530
you are quite literally just shit at the game
no, you losing to a good player does not mean millia is bad

>>536072526
if it's any indication, i'm 1350-1400 and i landed in gold 3, but i feel like my opponents are a bit weak, so plat 1 would be more appropriate

>>536072591
I hope not considering what happened the last time they tried adding crossplay for a new platform.

why did venom get buffed reddit and some people here said he was fine

Thoughts on Chipp?

>>536072798
because xitter said he wasnt

I can't think, my brain doesn't function

>>536072391
It seems that Lucy really is there test character for 2.0. Her story has a new chapter select which hasn't been seen anywhere else yet.

after how many days can we start calling out bait with elo

>>536072990
that's optimal

>>536072798
he's an actual lab monster character unlike the other ones people call that in this game. so if random floor 6 players can't pick him up in 2 minutes he needs buffs.

>>536072994
they just put a lot of effort into her because she's representing another IP, she has unique victory lines for every character also from what i saw

>>536072798
Miyauchi only reads Gobou tweets

So are ranks gonna be a piece of shit from early impressions? Is Vanquisher gonna be the most populated rank in a month or is it gonna actually be hard to get to? I was pretty high elo on the rating update site when I played, but I don’t know if I’ll even bother with it if the ranks are gonna suck like that on top of ft2

>>536073194
pretty sure you gain more points than you lose
a >50% winrate player will climb
it'll just be celestial 2

>>536073194
seems like you have to do a lot of grinding, 90 points on a win and 4000 to vanquisher from D3

>>536073194
>Is Vanquisher gonna be the most populated rank in a month
yes, maybe it will take longer a month, but the ranked is the SF6 model, you can't derank from vanquisher once you reach it and you have a separate rating called DR

>>536073295
<50% shit oops

how the fuck am I supposed to win online when its ft2 and you cant do shit when they spam their strings and I always get ch if I try to interrupt

>>536073428
Strive is a baby game, how youre having trouble is beyond me

The seetheposting ranked is going to cause in these threads will be glorious. It's already beginning.

>>536072591
I doubt. Switch version is outsourced port. Thats why its still behind and doesnt even have Unika yet.

>>536073295
>>536073313
>>536073347
Bleak. Perhaps I’ll stick to tower. Or better yet, stop playing Strive since Sin got obliterated and I don’t really feel like playing Ky. Time to lock into Blue Archive

>>536072994
Makes sense, they'd probably want to add more story content in 2.0 since they dropped that shit after season 1.

are there no win streak bonuses like in sf6

so you either get placed in D1 or D3, in which it'll take forever to rank up

YOU'RE CARRIED SILVER SHITTER YOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIEDYOU'RE CARRIED

>>536073598
>taking this nuch mental damage from just thinking about ranked
people in this general really are trans

>wanna play rucy
>stuck at work
fuck this gay earth

Why aren't you retards talking about Lucy?

>>536073472
I am new and I dont know characters at all

>>536073598
I wanted to get a bunch of characters to Vanquisher but I’m good on the grind lol, I’ll just get my main and not care about it otherwise

>>536073847
everyone in here is tryharding in ranked with their main, im labbing her

>>536073847
she's top 1, if you play her you're a bum

>>536073847
Plastic nipples erotic

Seems like Lucy doesnt need RC in combos because quickhack literally does the same thing with even more perks. Can also do monowire loops since one of the hacks forces CH

These GL changes sure are weird. You don't get anything new from what you already couldn't combo off like tip CH 684HS. But CH 426HS is now so absurdly long you can jog up from anywhere into c.s. It also fucks with CH 248HS SC

>>536073428
It means their string is a frametrap. You can't abare it. Try IB or FD-

>>536072020
I'm doing well but damn 2HS only works as a day 1 patch knowledge check, its so awful lmao

>>536073847
I could not give a single fuck about that playable billboard. She's not even worth pirating. They should have added a real character if they wanted me to care.

lucy jHS hits crouchers

I have no reaction time
my brain is a still birth
stop jumping over my head

>>536073847
i don't like walking ads and giving CDPR money

>>536073847
I've got INTERNET POINTS to grind now bro

>>536073847
imagine your partner requires you to both be naked at home

>>536073136
>>536073623
Now I'm wondering more about what 2.0 will bring. While the reactions to every character may just be a thing for only Lucy (as a collab character), they've already given her a pseudo-IK and a new story select. If 2.0 is meant to be a revamp and overhaul, then perhaps there's more in store for us than we thought.
>>536073847
I am, but there's only a few videos out about her and only one story video.
https://youtu.be/SUsk15_X330

>>536073847
Not only is she a fotm guest but her move list is giving gio a run for her money with how boring it looks

imagine wasting dev time on a poorly animated and poorly written story mode

>>536074862
I was expecting some sort of post Edgerunners development but they went with “It was a dream or something lmao.” What was the point? It felt more like a new Axl story than a Lucy one.

>>536074654
Man she really is a boring character. Rebecca was so much better

>>536074696
The whip being chargeable and cancellable and applying hack at the midcharge gives her a fair bit of nuance. I was expecting a granblue character but I'm reasonably pleased.

retards playing soive after 4 years and expecting complex characters
you got your asuka and hc and still shat your pants

no one is expecting that

https://x.com/GWANGLORD/status/1958459450551075256
Gimped hammerfall

isnt this matchmaking way too slow

no mr bond, I expect you to die

>>536075482
It's 7am on a Thursday man relax

>>536075482
was expecting slower

>>536075482
Getting matches in 5 seconds in EU now.

>>536075478
Holy shit, that's pathetic.

>>536075550
nigga it has way more players than usual

>>536075478
Whats the point of this move now?

>>536075787
They're all in Japan and Europe

The best characters in the game are still top 5-10 aren't they?

>>536075984
the best chars are usually in top 5 yes

>>536075478
>just frame cS meaty
AIEEEEEE

>>536076021
Well in some fighting games a patch might nerf the top characters enough where they aren't top 5-10 anymore. ArcSys doesn't really like doing that to my knowledge.

>>536076126
Only character that got actually nerfed is Johnny.

>>536076183
Sinbros… is it actually gonna work out???

>>536075984
Assuming you meant "the characters that were top tier before the patch are still top tier" then no, Sin is much worse.

>>536076126
what would be the purpose of that? so the best characters always cycle around so everyone gets a turn? that's sounds retarded

>>536076317
Sin yeah I forgot about him. Both got smoked but with Johnny you can instantly see difference and thats a good thing.

>>536076412
So what you're saying is a certain group of characters should always be the best while a different group of characters should always stay the worst? Have you worked on Strives character balance team since the game came out?

>>536075478
Wow it isnt Ram j.H bad but damn thats dookie.

>>536076412
>what would be the purpose of that?

To help retain a sense of balance between the whole cast, typically. Hence the word" Balance."

>>536076370
Sin was on average in the 7-12 range for best characters. Some people had him in too tier, but he tended to be just below the really broken characters. What made Sin so AIDS was his ease of use and ability to just rob people. He blew ass in a fee MUs, but for the ones he was good he just was so unfun to deal with since people can play him and win for just a couple touches. At least these nerfs mean that the carried losers will have to ditch him

>>536076412
this general has the biggest amount of retards, is it because they started fgs with soive or what

>>536076924
but you said the top characters should be nerfed to where they aren't top anymore, that might mean overnerfing them. better to slightly nerf them and not shake things up too much to see how things end up

One benefit of Anji's new 2H is that it'll be good counterplay to Baiken mashing parry on wakeup

I know they're just placement matches but why am i playing against niggas from 9th floor? wasn't the old tower system some kinda ranked system anyways, just match me up with people from 5th floor or something.

Nago now truly lives or dies on BSU mix. I fucking hate the character but they could have made him slightly more interesting than this

>>536077213
lmao /ggg/ is floor 5? it all makes sense now

>>536077327
I literally have 7hr playtime

>>536077084
>the carried losers will have to ditch him
Hm yes truly dire. *animorphs into a unikatard*

they should remove all male chars

>>536077403
>I literally have 7hr playtime
we know, you post in /ggg/

>>536077213
Because they're placement matches in a brand new ranked system.

>>536077213
don't play ranked?

>>536077503
detransition

>>536077591
Thanks to ranked tower is pretty much empty right now.

>>536077505
Don't be mean to the newfriends faggot

MAYBE IF WE ARE GOING TO RESTRICT RANKED TO FT2 they should make them mandatory? I fucking hate this meme trend

>>536075984
Kinda. HC and Goldlewis got away with murder. The rest are quite a bit less wellrounded than before so its matchup dependent

Leffen said that GL is better than before? Is that really true?

>>536078703
But what does LK think?

>>536078703
no lol

>>536078703
the way I see it he still has drone and laser and apparently BT counterhits do even more damage now so... that's all there is to it

>>536078778
too busy pumping out the video about why gg players HATE lucy

>>536078703
who's good luck?

>>536078703
I saw a glimpse of Hosino labbing midscreen counterhit 268 and jD j862 combos

>>536078703
his machine gun move hit me 50 times, it didnt used to do that did it? it did a lot of damage

i havent played soive in 2 years but i still believe that pot isn't high tier and it's just retards complaining for 0 reason