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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_9hwQ8jLw

>LATEST PATCHES
Aug 5 1.003.202 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516342955916658905

*splashes you*

lobby doko

So where do you think the ODST weapons are going to fall on the usefulness scale?

>>536193904
Right down there with the killzone weapons.

>>536193904
>SMG/AR
Another liberator/lib per variant tier
>Shotgun
Another punisher tier but less ammo so a worse punisher
>Pistol
Bad

>>536193637
>Ragdolls you from the other side of a wall and you die from "impact"
Tee hee!

>>536193904
They'll be kinda "okay"

>>536193904
They're direct analogues of existing weapons with slightly different traits. SMG is a Knight, Pistol is a Redeemer without full auto, etc.

>Starcraft Crossover
>Stealth war bond with cloaking device
>We finally get the Starcraft nova game Blizzard was working on in 2002.

>>536193904
Metafaggotry will not stop me from rocking ODST armor + MA5C Assault Rifle purely out of fashion for the next few months, and I'll still casually top the scoreboard regardless

>>536193951
Honestly I think collab weapons should be balanced on par with upgraded guns, than with baseline. If we can't upgrade them, make them a little benefit for early game John Helldiver who pays in for the collab, but if he sticks around and invests, he can get other guns built up to his preference that fit more effective niches. As it is, the Killzone guns are in a weird situation of being like sidegrades that lose their relevance once you stop caring for the novelty and just go upgrade the normal guns. Oh sure, the SMG is like a Knight-lite, but you still want the modded Knight by comparison.

>>536193583 (OP)
Why are they like this...

>>536194567
Before weapon upgrades the killzone AR was between the normal lib and lib carbine in terms of fire rate/recoil. And the smg was a slightly slower firing and more controllable knight. Now with upgrades all those weapons are just objectively better than both.

>>536194567
This, shotguns without chokes are borderline fucking useless. If you aren't giving us the chokes, at least give their benefits. Maybe even do have customization but only stats-wise, like the actual model doesn't change but you can choose the benefits.

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>>536194440
Starcraft crossover would be REALLY hard to rationalize, even more difficult than 40k, because Starcraft's power floor is way higher. The Overmind's Zerg would completely fucking wipe the floor with Super Earth. Just the baseline infantry in Starcraft are rocking powered armor and their standard rifle is support weapon tier. A Ghost's Canister Rifle is absurdly strong too, rocking 25mm cartridges.

>>536194689
Maybe they'll get buffed with the supposed Warbond return.

>>536194778
I wouldn't count on it.

>>536194774
How bitchy are the rights to Starship Troopers, anyway?

>>536194762
[[This PSA funded by the State of Israel]]]

>>536194897
Probably not very, it's a franchise way past it's prime and the only active game is absolute dog shit and dead. Though I don't know who owns the IP.

>>536193904
Suppressed weapons will have special mechanics to aid being sneaky, so they will have a niche no matter what. The M6C SOCOM will be a good alternative to the Verdict.
MA5C will be a med pen bullet hose so a straight upgrade of the Adjudicator unless you value the accuracy more. The trailer didn't show the MA5C to be particularly uncontrollable or anything.
Shotgun will be the only tossup whether it's a redundant loser or a niche winner. Shotguns have never been a good choice after other weapons got buffed.

>>536195061
>Suppressed weapons will have special mechanics to aid being sneaky
You give the sw*de too much credit.

>>536193198
just take slugger so you can headtap up close

>>536193637
Ragdoll you buy won't ever kill you.

This thing is such fucking garbage. You'd think it would keep whatever it's stuck to stunned for the duration of the use, but it only staggers every 3-4 seconds and then the target recovers to move and otherwise be annoying while you're trying to position or line up a shot on it. Tried to use it for hulks since regular stuns were being inconsistent if I didn't land a direct hit, and it's almost fucking worse. God, what an embarrassing item.

>>536194897
>How bitchy are the rights to Starship Troopers, anyway?
They're a Sony subsidiary so it depends, I guess.

>>536194774
I still think a dead space crossover would be neat. Gimme the line gun and the javelin launcher.

>>536194762
I'll stop in 2 hours

>>536194762
I go to the bug front for a paid vacation

>>536193583 (OP)
post fembots and fembugs

>>536195650
I go to the bug front because I have an addiction to Stalker venom, and the withdraw makes feel very undemocratic things.

>>536195409
it's mostly for stuns for things you're not aiming at but want locked down for a long time.
Stuff like fire / orbitals / Gas / Sentry targets
it's also decent for holding chokes.

I want to sleep so badly but my body says no. So instead, DEMOCRACY.

>>536195963
do 5 sets of x15 chair dips

>>536194774
Wouldn't be any worse than adding Cadians or kriegers. Besides its just a crossover, not a full integration of the lore. Its not like we have ISA cruisers floating around after they added killzone armor so I don't think they need to rationalize stuff like the zerg or marines when they're just straight up not being added.

>>536195963
count dead bots, helps you sleep

>reddit finds out the 130 gb bloat is not from the 4k textures but pure yandere dev incompetence
>each model file is duplicated 100+ times
Holy shit. These Swigger coders have to be worse than the Indians that get hired by corpos. This is fucking appalling

>>536193904
Stahl Arms (which is to say pointless) tier

>>536194897
They have their own game that is really garbage and floundering. Either they wouldn't do it out of spite and not wanting to throw away what numbers they do have, or they'd desperately agree in hopes it'd bolster numbers on their end by awareness. So absolutely or not at all. That said, no idea what we'd get that'd honestly be notable in any way.

>>536194440
>>536194774
This. As much as I'd love it, while Starship Troopers has telepaths just like StarCraft, the power level's too high for SC. A temporary cloaking device using Stalker genes could be possible, an EMP blast or electric stasis cage Blue rifle like Ghosts have could be cool. But otherwise we basically have lower-powered versions of what Terran have already. Maybe like "Wraith Protocol" Red where it deploys Eagle 1 with a temporary cloaking field as she comes down and assist-targets shooting ground units and missiles against flying units. A Vulture one-man equivalent of an FRV but fasters, drops mines and has grenade shots could be cool as hell and somewhat within universe technology. Maybe a bait /confusion turret that acts like the Psi Emitter, where it draws in units with a frequency we're conditioned to ignore / unable to hear as Helldivers.

>>536193904
>AR
People keep saying this is going to be a Judy clone. I genuinely don't see it. The AR in Halo was never a precision weapon, not even the 32 mag version, and even in Helldivers, it has no scope and can't be ADSd. I believe this is going to be a pure hipfire spray and pray mag dumper, so desu it should have the highest DPS of any assault rifle in the game, considering it won't be able to hit shit past 50+ meters.

>SMG
>Pistol
Arrowhead has talked about improving the stealth mechanics. If they actually make suppressors worth it, these are going to be used by nature of being the only suppressed weapons as of right now. Even if the damage is a bit piddly.

>Shotgun
Dead in the water if it doesn't do at least double the Punisher's damage per shot. 6 shells per full tube, no scope, no choke etc. It NEEDS monumental burst.

>>536196089
The point I'm trying to make is that none of the gear can actually be put next to anything in Helldivers 1:1 without being either vastly underpowered for what it is, or just not making sense compared to the rest of the arsenal. Like that Canister Rifle would hit harder than an Autocannon.

>>536195865
Greetings [HELLDIVER SCUM].
Commence the depositing of your [SAMPLE] into my [BIO-PROCESSOR].

>>536196661
Kino.

>>536196619
>the only suppressed weapons as of right now
Not in a technical sense. Energy weapons are generally inaudible. Getting silent ballistics is fine I guess but we'd all prefer suppressor attachments for existing rifles.

What other Halo names can I give my ship in reference to make Boxdivers crack a smile when I show up to help?

>>536196661
OOOOOOOH
SEXSEXSEXSEXSEXSEX

>>536197143
>UNSC ship
Just make anything cool or follow historical ship examples
>Covenant ship
Use anything poetic or religious

>Played with someone whose super destroyer was called Wings of Liberty
Based.

>>536191683
ggz tards
https://files.catbox.moe/8jv2cp.mp4

>>536197832
lol

>>536196424
No no. You see, all those textures are for the unique minutia of random scratches and bumps you'll find on all the enemies, so they are needed. For realism sakes. Now enjoy your 300tb bloatware game.

>The ayys are attacking now too.
JOEL, YOU TRIPPLE NIGGER.

prediction; bot order will be the only one finished or the closest to being finished, buggers will continue to helplessly flop around and not bother farming kills, squid kills will never even really get started

>>536198143
>BRO THE AYYLIUMS ARE INVADING AS WELL!!!
>NEW MO!!!!!!!!
>kill 15 voteless
>end result: 78.52%

>he gets ragdolled by chargers
ngmi

>Joel does a 40 Strength Invasion on a planet of 70 Squiddivers at four in the fucking morning in American with only 25,000 people online
Thanks.

>>536198440
It's funny just how hard he pounds the squidniggers when they make up about less than 2k players at most on a good day.

someone check if the ayylium defense has them cultists
lole wrong thread

>>536196661
cool

>>536198143
Xbotdivers save us!
t. Shams Joelstedt

if I ever get this game I'm gonna be john squidkiller just so I can clown on people for not fighting them

>>536198898
Would

I'm sick and tired of every other mission being a mega city
remove this cancer from the game

host your own game kek
you're free to choose what mission you want to play

Poast yfw 29.7 GB gets slopped into 131.4 GB

Theyre really trying to set the stage of "Dont worry guys, the ODSTs will save us!"

the epoch is a piece of shit, wow

>>536199283
>Nearly 30 gigs for what equates to a mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/32310?tab=files
This only takes 1.1 gigs. What the FUCK are the swedes doing?

>>536199694
...what?

>>536199776
I SAID THIS ONLY TAKES 1.1 GIGS. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE SWEDES DOING?

>as the file size of games goes up, the price of solid-state storage goes down
>vidya eventually bloat to 1TB in size, but SSDs become ubiquitous and cheap enough to sell with their own harddrive for poo-worlders that dont have the bandwidth to download
>PCs adapt to accommodate hot-swappable hard-drives and industry standards are quickly agreed upon
>the age of games cartridges is back
>the age of physical media ownership is back
Oh yeah fellow chuds, I'm thinking were BACK.

>>536199880
>>PCs adapt to accommodate hot-swappable hard-drives and industry standards are quickly agreed upon
Unironically though why isnt this a thing?

>>536196661
Look at those ballistics.

>>536199947
Nvm I just remembered USB storage is a thing. Not the same thing but, eh. Its close... sorta.

>>536198731
>They actually unironically think Xbros want to play against the Illuminates.
The swiggers really are deluded. I wonder how they'll cope in a couple more months' time when squids are at sub 1k players on a weekday night even with xbox players included.

>>536198898
They are british?

>>536199283
Surely sweden will see the folly of their ways and repent for their technical foolishness?

>>536199947
The technology for SSD-tier data transfer rates already exists (eSATA, USB 3.1) , but external drives were phased out of PC cases to make room for more fans.

>>536195561
This. Dead Space has a lot of cool weapons that will be a hundred times more interesting than having a crossover with starship troopers or 40k for yet another assault rifle.

what's the issue with squids? just shoot the voteless in the dick and spray fleshblobs with the gas gun

>>536195561
I really want the saw blade launcher

>>536201252
Squids are boring, uninteresting and gives shit xp

>>536194774
>
Least subhuman power level poster

Oh yeah, cause that's definitely gonna make me want to dive against the squids.

>>536201747
Squid player rates are about to drop by half, from 2% to 1%

>>536195561
>Dead Space crossover comes out alongside Necromorph-esc Illuminate subfaction with super fast Voteless and Fleshmobs that are technically less durable, but need to be dismembered to be killed.
>Other mutants would be present as well.
Would be a genuinely top notch idea.

>>536201747
>yadda yadda
oh fucking noes if only the eagle fighters were armed with AAM

>>536201747
If only every extract had enemies able to spawn in.
When it works extraction is some of the most fun/intense gameplay, but 80% off the time it's just a ghost town.

>>536201898
To be fair, eagles are space A10s, they're made for WW2 style ground attacks, not fighting other space/aircraft

>>536201747
>the old 4-minute extraction snoozefest is back for no fucking reason at all
Yeah still not diving the squids, they can take the entire fucking galaxy for all I care.
Also note they still aren't attacking New Stockholm

>>536201710
As far as I see, it's like all that Master Chief vs. Samus bullshit. Out of their suits it's probably decently fair but the equipment is just skewed in one direction obscenely hard.

>>536202024
cool, but surely in the year that passed since the illuminates coming back the command conjured up a falcon or whatchit meant for CAP?
I think eagle would still fucking mog the stingray in a fist fight

>>536202160
>stingray has to massively slow down to even attack
>eagle just goes BRRRRRRRTTTTTT and fucks off back into space
Obviously eagle wins.

>>536202087
Would YOU want to take New Stockholm? Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>536201747
>an additional 2:30 to a 2:00 extract
>plus 50% for call-in debuff
>uuuuuuhhhh
>6:45
EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHH?!?!?!

>>536201747
>Equips faster extraction booster.
Wow.

Good game design is when 5 minute extraction.
(No enemies have spawned because you're at the map's edge)

>>536202241
Yes, we need to liberate it with the heaviest ordinance available, SEND THE DSS RIGHT NOW!

I don't give a fuck about squids anymore. If they go for super earth again I'll just watch as is burns.

>>536201694
first two are subjective, but I didn't know about the XP being worse

Oh my god its real

>>536202846
less side objectives = less XP in total, and squids always have at least one less than bots and bugs for some reason

>>536202982
At this point we should just kill eachother until we run of reinforces, it's not like anybody here needs samples anymore and beats siting around doing nothing for 5 minutes

>>536203108
Draw emote duels time

>>536202982
>Adding this modifier on what is by far the worst faction that almost nobody likes compared to Bugs or Bots
why

>>536201747
>now this looks like a job for me

>>536203193
AH is retarded and spiteful, you should know this by now.
Players don't like squids? Let's punish the three people that still play 'em, that will show our entitled playerbase!

Yes my friends +50% modifier DOES make it seven minutes long

>>536199694
>>536199817
duplicating their files dozens to even hundreds of times over, creating immense bloat. it's probably meant for HDD players on PC because otherwise with SSDs there's literally no reason to do it whatsoever and just fills the game up to the brim- probably bad design ethic.

>>536203438
holy fuck man hahaha AH isn't fucking at all

>>536203438
Who the fuck at AH thought this was a good idea?

>>536203438
>7 minutes long extract
>when extract enemies don't even work 95% of the time
Death to all swedoids tbqh

>>536203438
>squidcucks will defend this

>>536203438
Inflation fetishist eating good.
First the new warbond price and now this.

Still here this whole time

>jump in with some randos
>wordlessly eviscerate all automatons in our path with two squads tearing through different halves of the map, clearing all objectives and outposts
>don't lose a single helldiver and extract amidst desert carnage to bombs and sentries everywhere
aw yeah

>>536203593
>AH
>thinking

>>536203805
>inflated file size
>inflated warbond price
>inflated extraction timer
I HATE SWIGGERS. I HATE SWIGGERS. I HATE SWIGGERS. I HATE SWIGGERS. I HATE SWIGGERS. I HATE SWIGGERS.

>>536203438
This has to be some sort of extraction testing. Surely, just like the Railcannon MO they're just doing this to gather targeted data about extracts, right?

Right?

best armor passives? best on what type of armor?

>>536203856
RELEASE ME

RELEASE MEE

>>536199694
this is going to be very funny to bring up when we see the patch notes for the 30GB patch.

>>536198440
>>536198498
70 squidsdivers? Just enough to win.

>>536199694
are you saying the xbox/halo patch will be 30GB?

>>536204036
The one that works best for you, of course.

>This is what Xbox will get introduced to
Do they want their game to die?

>>536202261
holy shit >>536203279 is right.

>AH is probably patting themselves on the back for finally giving this booster a niche case

>>536204036
the armor you start with

>>536203279
assuming its not an edge extract, (is that on the bug tracker yet?) long extracts are kino and this booster is anti-kino.

>>536204036
extra padding for raw surviability
medic for more and longer lasting invincibility stims
siege ready as a crutch for making shitty primaries good
fortified for surviability against bots and when using a heavy recoil support weapon
engineering kit for grenade spam
unflinching for laser fetishists and the epochfag

>>536204036
Peak physique if any of the weapons handle like shit
Padded Armor / Siege ready just works
Light armor all day erry day

inflammable + vitality enhancement for eternal screams and million shots must be made for the Dickle

>>536204239
It's always had a case on any mission where you absolutely did not respect the faction you're fighting. So pretty much 99% of the missions in the game.

>>536204309
Long extracts are hella gay, and edge extract no-shows are a feature not a bug.
>inb4 source

>>536203438
>90% of HD1 extractions
>Constant pressure as patrols all over converge on your location. Nonstop alarms/breaches while also forcing you to hold your ground in a limited area until the shuttle arrives, all while triumphant music blares over everything.
>90% of HD2 extractions
>
>Swedes then decide to make it even longer

>>536204309
>long extracts are kino
True, but this is illuminate. You can sit afk while sentries and mines kill everything.

insane how they see that people despise the squids and decided to add even more tedium to their missions

>>536204036
Peak physique is objectively the best if you want the most "Gamer" armor.
As it allows you to take high recoil reduction attachments, and then have 60+ ergo.
Thus giving you a gun that's actually easy to control and shoot.

Everything else is up to preference.

Explosive armor lets you survive impacting your feet, padded armor is like 25% bonus damage reduction,
truth enforcers is about 12.5%. (Only important if no one takes vitality booster).

DOT damage reduction + vitality will help you if you like to push through your own DOTs.
(They do seperate you a bunch from your team).

Medic armor is basically for noobies with supply pack.
Grenade armor is funny with supply pack and frags. You also get recoil reduction.
(Not that big outside of reducing something from 30 down to sub 20 (the sweet spot for most guns)).

Reload armor is good with deadeye, reload + melee damage is great with constitution.
Arc armor is fucking amazing with de-escalator, but you will kill your teammates.
Throwing arm gives you an extra 20 something meters to your throw. Might not seem like much, but if you're good at planning where you're throwing stuff,
that will basically give you an easy throw directly into the compound center and obliterate everything.


Oh and democracy protects is fun to break out when you wanna just take hellbomb pack and RP about democracy.
Everything I forgot probably sucks or isn't worth talking about.

>>536204668
>Oh you hate squids? Then you fight squids more until you love them!
They are trying to force stockholm syndrome on squiddivers, and it might work on some.

>>536203329
>retarded and spiteful
If there is a worse combination of words to describe a human being, I don't wanta know it.

>>536204748
There is one. A dreadful word, I dare not leave it unspoilered so as not to accidentally expose innocent anons in this thread to it: Swede

>>536204748
I remember getting a young trainee that had the unfortunate combination of retarded and arrogant.
He fucked up almost everything, refused to be taught, ignored any and all advice, tried to shift the blame on others and made me that most pitied man at my workplace for the two months he lasted before my boss kicked him out.

>>536197143
Hammer of Dawn

>>536204871
AAAAAH MY EYES

>>536204598
small indie companie please understand

>>536204036
Heavy
Medic

Get Butcher Armor from the superstore, probably the best tank armor you can get if you plan on getting hit a lot

>>536204776
It only last for two days, so it'll be gone before the xbots come in

>>536205232
that's 2 days of lost progress, nobody wants to play squids on a good day as it is so that might put things too far behind

All the problems ArrowHead has with this game could be easily fixed by picking a single and random D10 solodiver and another random D10 multidiver with the ability to properly articulate themselves and then following their advices and trying to fix their issues and have them playtest the fucking patches before they are released and listen to their feedbacks.
That's all it would take to fix the game, but it's apparently too much.

>>536205432
Most solo divers have some retarded takes and don't see the merit of team based tools, most multidivers don't really see the game so much as they just throw shit ontop of enemies for the big boom.

DuoDivers is the only ones AH should listen to. That and gamer dads.

>>536205534
D10 solodiving forces you to see the whole picture and generate healthy opinions.
D10 multimonkeys also have valuable inputs.
Gamerdads are worthless, duodivers are faggots.

>>536204036
>Extra Padding
Default armour, no fluff, no nonsense, just extra durability which always useful.
>Medi-kit
Two extra stims + extra stim duration, by itself is already really strong, coupled with the stim booster and you can get away with being way more reckless. So good it can encourage bad habits
>Siege ready
Extra ammo + reload speed increase. Always useful, but can encourage bad habits like medi kit. Also limited to only light and heavy armour so far
>Engineering kit
Extra grenades is pretty handy, recoil reduction is also nice to have for some guns
>Fortified
Similar to above, but with explosive resistance instead of grenades. Nice against bots
>Servo assisted
Extra throwing range is real nice for orbitals, double-edged since it can mess with muscle memory. Also makes you almost never take limb injuries
I'll give a special mention to Democracy Protects as well, since although it's really situational and won't affect you for 90% of the mission, if you win the coin-flip you can survive dumb shit you really shouldn't have. Best against bots though, not so much against bugs in my experience]
Armour class is personal preference, personally I feel too naked with light armour, and too encumbered with heavy armour, so I prefer medium

>>536205134
I'm so sorry anon, I did my best to protect you.

>>536205651
>D10 solodiving forces you to see the whole picture and generate healthy opinions.

Naw. If you listen to people like OhDough, they see everything in a DPS vacuum because the meta is that tight in solo dives. But if you bring like 2 or more people, and the meta loosens up dramatically.

Like I don't hate the guy, but his balance ideas tend to be over the top and he doesn't really care about the build aspect of the game so much as how much of a power house x or y should be.

>>536205820
His video on why squids are bad was pretty spot on though
Fleshmobs would be a lot less annoying if they had actual weakpoints for a skilled player to exploit for decently fast kills instead of being a big dumb blob of hitpoints

High Command more like the fucking Circus, the way these clowns are trying to act silly and funny. I'm waiting for the punchline.

>>536205651
>whole picture
>miss out on a bunch of mechanics

That's okay I didn't feel like going on vacation in squidtown anyway no worries

it's truely bot divers and squid divers against the bug horde

>>536206017
N-new Super Destroyers?
Could it be? Strike Carrier-sama...?

>>536206010
I mean it doesn't surprise me he got filtered by fleshmobs. They basically exist to fuck over solo fags.

Honestly I kinda like how they're going back to having the factions be two different support weapons are highly encouraged for meta. Like war striders enforce someone to bring rockets while hulk spam is best countered by efficient AP4. It's a pretty good step in the right direction.

>>536206051
>"man, I wish I had multiplayer mechanics right about now, they'd be helpful"
>>536205820
Overall OhDough is one of the jewtubers with the best takes.

I'm surprised there's more people on bots than bugs. Maybe most people still have bug fatigue after the last MO?
Also squidders did the impossible and escaped from single digit percentage hell

>>536206010
Squids are the only time I ever dare bring out the eruptor or crossbow, because of fleshmobs alone. SOMETIMES the scorcher or purifier.
Everything else still gets the MG43 treatment.
MG43, Jump-Pack, Orbital Gas, MG Sentry.

>>536205820
why the fuck would I want the game to be balanced around solo niggers

>>536206017
SHIP MODULE UPGRADES. HOPE BROS WW@

>>536206243
>Overall OhDough is one of the jewtubers with the best takes

He's never wrong something could use a buff, but his ideas are fucking hilariously over the top.
>What if we give everyone an extra Eat Slot
>Variable should be like 60 ergo!

Anyways, he's also been just flat out wrong with shit he never uses and bitches about. He also doesn't like to experiment with anything besides DPS and breakpoints.

Also I don't watch anyone else sides eravin a while back, so it doesn't surprise me if he's the best.
OhDough is pretty okay. He stood up to all the nerf troons for me, when I was telling them mass nerfing everything wasn't the best idea.

>>536206230
Solonigger here, you don't get fucked by fleshmobs at all.
The variable twoshots them, scorcher and purifier kill it one mag, airburst rocket oneshots multiple of them, most primary weapons + dogs clear them up, gas fucks their AI, etc.
His complain was simply:
>they are damage sponges without weaknesses, just a very big healthbar for a common enemy, and all conventional AT options don't work on them
>they can ragdoll you through terrain
>>536206480
Having a good base for solo play is how you properly build a fun multiplayer experience by adding more elements (more complex missions designs, weapons operated by multiple people, overwhelming situations that might require coordination and teamwork.
Every player in a team will find themselves alone from time to time, it's just how it is.

>>536206204
Its the obvious build-up to the NEW AND HECKIN EBIN Xbox release. The greentide comes soon.

Are we Navy? Are the Helldivers their own division like Marines?

>>536206384
Unironically I like how squids make me feel good for bringing broken meta bullshit because they actually feel balanced around it.

>>536206017
Orbital MACs incoming

>>536206757
I agree that his solutions are always over the top and that he's a dpsmetachud. Jewtube content in general is extremely lacking for this game.

>>536206316
We literally had almost a month of just bug MOs. The fatigue was setting in.

I sure love having the whole Galactic war progress completely fucked cause they wanna do a stupid last save

>>536206784
>>they are damage sponges without weaknesses, just a very big healthbar for a common enemy, and all conventional AT options don't work on them

Honestly I think his point of everything having a glowing weak spot wasn't the best, like for consistency I could agree it'd make sense because that's what people would expect. But it's not necessary to have a weak point. Changing things up is what makes things feel different.
The only thing they need to do is fix fleshmobs to actually take damage from grenades. They seem to bug out and not take scaling damage from certain explosives.

having enemies that stop single helldivers from being one man armies is good actually, now ping the heavy so the AT guy can handle it faggot

Consider this: an armor passive that increases armor(as with extra padding) and adds resistance to explosions(as with fortified) and other damage types(as with acclimated) but lowers the armor's speed by two armor levels.
So a light armor with such a passive would have medium armor rating and all resistances but heavy mobility, etc.

>>536206316
Tbf, we are locked in on Charbal and potentially stopping 2 bot attacks

>>536207180
This. But at the same time the AT nigger will get raped by chaff. Thus the anti chaff nigger will help him.
Funny innit how that works?

>>536206316
>kill 6.000.000.000 bugs
or
>kill 1.500.000.000 bots
and purely for comparison reasons
>kill 1.000.000.000 squids

Squids is doable but requires playing squids. Bots is a bit harder to pull off because of their limited number, but I believe it.
Bot numbers could be high today because the personal order is to extract from 3 bot missions.

>>536207172
>galactic war progress

>>536207251
S-so...
So it's just fortified armor on a tier up in armor?

>>536207176
popping the heads should do critical damage at least, right now you have an enemy with both high health and speed that's functionally immune to CC before getting into the swedejank like noclipping in cities

>the only reason the Gambit works out is cause the enemy attack lasted 2 days instead of 1
That update to captured planets starting off at 0% really killed gambits, huh?

>>536207419
Gas works well on them, and stuns actually do work but only to prevent them from locking onto you.

I'd like if the heads just multiplied explosive damage, and if you want to do more explosive damage after popping a head you gotta hit their back.

>>536207176
I'd argue that giving us the ability to cripple them and make them slower by destroying both legs would be good. In exchange, give fleshmobs with crippled legs an instakill move if they catch you.
Currently, damaging their legs doesn't do shit and they can still go into frenzy mode with both legs broken and rush you down.
And their fucking swigs hitboxes are completely fucked and should be fixed.

>>536207605
Honestly everything glitchy about illuminate should just be fixed first before they balance shit.

how will they make heavy armor viable
or have they just given up seeing as most heavy sets just get sent to the superstore on release

>>536207436
they never worked before either, even at <1% capping a planet from 0 is a slog and they almost always seem to be on the gay biomes nobody wants to play otherwise

>>536207713
Warp pack helped a ton

Idea for Fleshmobs
Why not design them to be a suicide unit?
They got a weakspot that is hard to hit due to them flailing around all the time, and if you let them get too close, they'll explode.
Not an instant kill, because it'd be WAY FUNNIER to kill you with the ragdoll that happens thanks to the explosion.

>>536207553
… isn’t the fleshmob one of the few units that takes explosive damage to multiple body parts at a time still, ei multiplying explosive damage.

>>536207901
You'd think so but it doesn't actually work properly. But this is from my schizo testing. They seem to only take double damage from explosives and nothing else.

>>536207436
Yes, they did. Which is good, because gambitniggers constantly begging others to go do their retarded dive on a planet with -2% decay with 0% liberation on it was always annoying as fuck. The only time gambits should be possible is if a dispatch mentions them, and even then most of those dispatches to suggest a gambit were bait too.

>>536207797
they serve their purpose within the roster, they're a distraction within a faction with incredibly low lethality, having them just exploded makes them useless

>>536207713
heavy armor only works if you want a passive and 150 armor
if you want 150 armor without being slow as shit, you got extra padding.
so, the only way to force people to use heavy armor for metafaggotry reasons, is to put good passives on them. AKA, you got the choice between "ride or die" with the light siege ready, or "slow hunk" heavy siege ready.

>>536208032
It honestly makes sense if this is why there's such a big disconnect with arrowhead and their playerbase. As fleshmobs would actually be taking about 5600 damage from a single HE grenade.

>>536207403
Higher armor+explosive resist would make you really durable but even light armor would be painfully slow. Also at least one elemental resistance is pretty useful for most enemy sets.

>>536195865
Bug

>>536208039
Most people dont bother reading because they dont want to read shit.
The current gambit planet for bots is Charballz, and some would throw a hissy fit about it because "muh fog, muh piss planet :(". Still, you take that planet, you defend two other planets AND gain one planet.
Problem is, the blob only follows the DSS, or goes to what is closer to SE. 9k on Charbal, 4.5k on Joelheim.
We could do better progress if the Joels go to Charbal and help there, but again, planet choice + "closer to SE".

tl;dr galactic war is railroaded, rigged shit and has been for a year, except when it isnt and relies on actual player interaction, which doesnt work out cause people cant fucking read or put 1+1 together (the answer is M)

>>536207901
>… isn’t the fleshmob one of the few units that takes explosive damage to multiple body parts at a time still,
total explosion immunity is more of a trait of smaller units and chaff than heavies. hulks and harvesters are really the only heavy units that have 100% explosion immunity on most of their parts, all the rest have only a few parts with immunity or only partial immunity throughout.

>>536208032
I don’t use explosive weapons so I wouldn’t know, but now I guess I’ll test it out.
>AT weapons have low explosive damage so they don’t count

>>536208620
I just chose to not read because i'll play whatever faction/biome i want because the galactic war is pretty inconsiquential.
The ultimate gambit, if i ignore the galactic war long enough maybe Joel will actualy try to make it good.

I remember the stalwart/mg34, plasma rifle, and punisher being good against squids in HD1 so that's all I use and it mostly works for me

>>536209169
*Leviathan spawns in your path*

>>536206860
The democracy officer actually captains the ship, the helldiver is living ordinance

>>536209298
Oh no, this mission modifier specific enemy just apeared out of no where!

>>536208620
>Most people dont bother reading because they dont want to read shit.
Guilty as fuck I took an FRV into a mission without realising the cooldown was jacked up

>>536209501
if he's the captain how come I can play stratagem hero as much as I want hmmmm?

>Constitution and Amendment use the same caliber (8mm) but conveniently changed their projectile names (Constitution, Amendment)
>Amendment isnt AP3 because it just isnt okay?
>Amendment also does more damage because it just does okay?

>Diligence and DCS use the same caliber, but DCS uses HYPER-VELOCITY ROUNDS!
>a faster bullet gets more AP, sure, but also more damage?

>Variable fires 9mm HOLLOW-POINT rounds, which is why it gets 5 more damage than the Liberator that fires 5.5mm FMJ rounds
>except the HOLLOW-POINT ROUNDS, DESIGNED TO DAMAGE FLESHY BITS, DOES 5 MORE DURABLE DAMAGE THAN FMJ

Lads. I'm starting to feel like I'm unlocking some lovecraftian box of shit I should never have opened. Trying to make sense of this shit makes no sense to me.

>>536209885
I like that the Amendment is AP2. It makes headshots more satisfying. I also like the fact that it filters aimlets.

>>536210086
why would ap2 headshots feel more satisfying than ap3 headshots

>>536209885
HMG and AMR both fire 12.5x100.

>>536195409
That whole War Bond is questionable beyond those getting it for the SWAT aesthetics.
I still wonder if that was supposed to be released during the War for Super Earth since it's the introduction of cities and the more ceremonial one should've came after to celebrate the victory (with a bunch of weapons that are terrible against the Illuminate).

>>536210539
HMG fires BCHP (Ballistic Cap Hollow Point?) while the AMR fires EIT (Explosive Incendiary Tracer?) and the HMGe is FMJ.

>>536210865
>Ballistic Cap
bonded core

Why can't swigpigs just make the sights look like this?

>>536196619
>Arrowhead has talked about improving the stealth mechanics
If so, I hope they fix the throwing knives with this next drop. That unlock was pretty expensive for what you get.

It has been 310 minutes since the last lobby was posted.

>>536198848
you'll get bored incredibly quickly and wonder why bots and bugs are leagues better from both a mechanics and a design standpoint

>>536211102
If throwing knives got an improved melee attack where you use the knife i'd use them alot more.
It really annoys me you can't melee while you have them equiped.

>>536210302
Because at least on bots, if you try to headshot a Devastator and miss, using an AP2 gun, your shot pings off harmlessly and does no damage.

>>536211332
>bots
>not boring

>>536204036
Siege Ready is top tier
I like Peak Physique a lot for the handling
Fortified is not only great against getting ragdolled by Bots but against Bug acid (I think?)
The armor that blows up when you die is slept on because they buffed it at some point and now it lets you hold extra grenades like Engineering Kit and they fully restock on death.
Med Kit if you're expecting to get hurt a lot, like someone who just unlocked the Warp Pack.
Eventually the most important part is whichever armor you think looks the coolest.

>>536209298
you're supposed to ignore those ;)))

>>536209885
The swegroes exist on Mt. Retard and think having a couple years as a POG conscript in a pozzed and non-militant nation makes them experts when the average (non-tourist and non-glowie) /k/ommando knows more than all of them combined by simple virtue of not being a retarded swedecuck

>>536211537
if you do nothing but play bots every god damn time, bots get boring. congrats anon, you won the game. bots are easy to you now.
>>536211438
yeah, that makes sense. reminds me how they changed the hulk body to AP4 at some point and it made aiming for headshots worse with the HMGe or the AMR.

>>536211358
Yeah, I think the dev response was
>you can already kill a bug the size of a cow with a single throwing knife what more do you want?
but the main issue is that the stealth is broken. What you suggest doesn't sound like it would be overly difficult for them to program considering they have bayonets and several melee weapons with unique animations.

Any second now Charbal is going to get abandoned

>>536209885
>Diligence and DCS use the same caliber, but DCS uses HYPER-VELOCITY ROUNDS!
>a faster bullet gets more AP, sure, but also more damage?
the original plan for them obviously was to give them both 165 base damage with DCS having the edge in pen and durable value while Dili packs the ammo economy and generates less recoil
not sure why they opted not to do it this way but Dili suffers for it
this could be fixed by giving Dili 200 base damage as well but they made the abomination that is Amendment instead which means DCS just gets to be ridiculously better than its peers with no drawbacks whatsoever other than a negligible ergo penalty

>>536211548
>but against Bug acid
I sure do get killed "by explosion" a lot when a bile titan pukes on me.

>>536211537
Only because they got nerfed to utter uselessness for updoots. They were the most exciting aspect of the game by far when it was new and uncorrupted by buff beggars.

>>536211713
Throwing knives aren't as bad as most people think, they just require a bunch of effort to use.
They have great stagger and if you figure out how to hit the head they can 1 tap devs and zerkers.
You also get all 20 back on resuply.
They fill the role of secondary more than that of a grenade.

>>536211987
Bile Titan and Bile Spewer vomit are invisible beams of concentrated explosive damage, and hitscan.
Which is why sometimes you get hit by it even though there's no visual confirmtation of the monster energy juice hitting you.

>>536211065
because that would be too functional.
arrowturd don't want you to comfortably do long range combat. In fact some of them (read: Alexus) would probably vote in favor of range capping all weapons to 50ish meters.

d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241548933396/76561198066017633

>>536208032
>>536208952
I took the grenade launcher for a spin since its damage is 99% explosive. I was getting a very consistent 6 direct grenade impacts to kill, putting it at between 1000 and 1200 damage a shot, which is both better and worse than what the math says it should take.

with a 3.5 meter inner and a 6.5 meter outer radius pretty much the entire fleshmob should be covered by the explosion, so it should die in 2 shots.
300x8 to the heads + 300 to the legs +400 to the main HP for 3100 damage a shot.

however, we know that explosions don't actually wrap around meshes since they adjusted automaton tanks to not be so vulnerable to impact grenades to the roof of the turret splashing and hitting the heatsink, so I'm going to only count the heads on the side that get hit, and I'm going to discount the legs as they might be obstructed under the geometry of the heads bulging out of the torso
300x4 to the heads on that facing +400 to the main for 1600 damage for the first shot. the heads have 400 health so it takes two grenades to pop them, but as all excess damage does get transferred it should still do another 1600 for the second shot, for a total of 3200 damage. after that the heads on that side will be gone so we can't count them anymore and only count the damage to main, so just 400 a shot. at 2800 HP remaining that's an additional 7 shots for a total of 9 shots to kill

and yet the consistent 6 shots says this isn't right either, so there must be some additional splashing going on, but the exact math is impossible to figure out, but whatever it really comes down to it does look like fleshmobs are taking more than just double damage from each grenade, as 6x800 only equals 4800

>>536212437
4/4

>>536205651

>Solo players have the best perspective on a game designed from the ground up to be coop

solotrannies are actually this delusional

>>536209103
>The ultimate gambit, if i ignore the galactic war long enough maybe Joel will actualy try to make it good.
this except I have no expectation of that ever happening

god what I would give to have l4d disablers that rape and kill solo divers for their hubris

>>536210974
I would have figured if they wanted the HMG to not have dogshit ballistics and high drag but keep a hollowpoint head to increase post penetration damage they'd put a ballistic cap on it ala 'armour piercing, capped, ballistic capped' APCBC naval artillery shells

>>536213331
>reinforce them
>they run off again
It would just drain your budget. The mechanics of friendly fire heavily encourage "spacing" and large maps and blitz missions also encourage at least splitting into pairs.

>>536213331
done
>disabler disables you
>teammate shoots you with the eruptor to save you, killing you
GG retard, you played yourself

>>536213090
Post the disastrous 60-day patch solodiving became shitloads more viable. Yeah you could argue that cheesing our way through ball busting launch d9s didn't provide a good perspective to the game, but now it's barely an inconvenience to rush down an entire d10 mission on your own while fondling your balls. Easy HD2 = single player HD2. No fix for this other than finally rolling back that patch.

>>536201747
damn if only there were something I could do about this as a chinaman

>>536213331
I'd like to see that too.
t: meleed leaping hunters, sniped smokers who were licking me and side stepped chargers on a daily basis back in the days.

>>536213639
them also making eruptor fags the most hated players in the game, splendid

>>536213090
>anons that understand how to play the game both online and solo at the highest difficulty have the best grasp of how the game works
>anons that don't, don't
It's very easy to understand, but you are a moron.
>>536213678
Solodiving was always viable, even when you got x4 patrols in solo. If anything they should bring that back.

whats wrong with playing solo?
i dont want retards to join my d10 lobbies so i play solo
not having more DPS from other people makes me focus more on getting shit done by myself alone, and knowing i dont have anyone to save my ass in a pinch, only me.

Which rifles and SMGs are good now against bugs? I haven't played since they added the new weapons upgrade/attachment system.

>>536214526
liberator carbine if you want to just shoot
tenderizer if you can manage its slower reload or know how to ammo economy
reprimand being the only decent SMG, also AP3 for hive guard or bile spewer killing

thats it nigga

>>536214337
some are genuinely not capable of doing it so they feel excluded
same reason why they fear d11
just bufftoddler things

>>536211987
that anon is right, bile is classified as "explosive damage" in the game code

>>536214526
The Knight has laser precision with 1200RPM fire rate when you get the right attachments, but I'm not used to needing to pick up ammo in the field just to keep my primary from running out.

>>536215464
>p2w weapon

>>536214337
I'd love to play multiplayer more, but playing with more people makes D10 on any front so fucking easy and boring I stopped seeing a point in it.
I'll join to help people struggling or if I know it's fun anons doing fun things like randomized/themed lobbies, but that's about it.

>>536209885
>soiwars pfp to warn the post is going to be retarded
>worse than imagined
Everything posted is too stupid to reply to seriously, barring the last plebbit space, which is a galaxy brain moment.
especially when you consider the same round fired from the peacemaker has +5 durable damage per bullet.
>tfw they end up nuking ballistic damage from orbit, convert 90% of into ap 1 or 0 impact damage.
Based

>>536214526
Sta is good if you want a bullet hose, works best with supply pack of course.
Everything else is pretty much a worse version of an AR we already have.

>>536214337
Solo players are the vegans of helldivers.
Always mentioning how they play solo and expecting people to praise them for it.
Meanwhile solo is easier than playing with a team.

Epoch buff next Tuesday retards

>>536215512
oh nyo~
back to the super credit farms with you, ranjit

>>536216121
the weakpoint is this quasar cannon

>>536215464
I love running the high rof guns on burst, makes me waste less ammo while still utilizing its high rof.

>>536216045
>Meanwhile solo is easier than playing with a team.
>This is what retards that don't actually play the game genuinely think

>>536216185
jeets and chinks are the ones cheating things in though, and selling accounts with max resources on craigslist

>>536216121
If the charged explosion shockwave radius doesn’t get buffed to the moon, ei slightly beyond its animation, I will continue to hate the weapon, no matter how much they buff it otherwise.
That, or even an inner explosion radius nerf in exchange for an outer explosion radius buff.

>Meanwhile solo is harder than playing with a team.
>This is what retards that don't actually play multiplayer genuinely think

>xe doesn't know that solochads can play multiplayer just as fine
>meanwhile multimonkeys cannot play solo because they get immediately btfo'd

>>536198439
This is why you should ALWAYS dive into the drop ship

HeavyPenetrationJustice!

>>536202443
Based retard

solochudcels literally cannot handle the chaos of multiplayer which is why they play solo

>>536217074
It will be light pen
>and that’s a good thing.

lobby
will be posted soon
be ready

Are those MOs punishment for having fun with bugs with last two MOs OR this is just a preparation for upcoming Xbawks merger?

And my understanding is to pick Charbal and keep botdiving to upset Joel?

>>536217463
I'M GETTING COFFEE

>>536217974
5 MINUTES
NO MORE
GET YOUR COFFE FAST ANON

>>536217074
No

>xbox players joining into the fillerest of nothingburger MOs
I almost feel bad

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241554733317/76561198141964882

Lobby POSTED
democracy decides faction

>>536218821
2/4

>>536218821
FULL

Besides armor and guns, what is the most faithfvll halo reach loadout, bookbag and special wep wise?

>>536217074
Yes

>furlobby filled instantly
Holy shit how many furfags are in this thread?

>>536214526
all of them

>>536217287
there are far too many ap2 rifles as it is

>>536219724
Jump-Pack / Shield-Generator Backpack, AMR / Quasar Cannon, Orbital Railcannon, HMGe / ATe / GLe

>>536219918
Sorry, I meant to say site*.

Lobby doko

>>536220634
That’s why it will be an ap2 lmg

>>536196424
there is much to hate about the swedes, but this is for a good reason

>bugs invade in force
>bots invade in force
>squids invade in force
haha yay the galactic war is so organic and not railroaded to fuck at all guys, it makes perfect sense that the bots and squids just sit with their thumbs up their asses for whole months until we conveniently need a Covenant stand-in for the epic ODST collab!!!!!!
god damnit fuck these swigger faggots

>>536214526
>Rifles
Liberator + its variants are all effective. Concussive is a bit different since it's more stagger-oriented.
Tenderizer is pretty good too so long as you can control your fire to avoid running dry
Honestly all of the assault rifles are solid, though Pacifier's stun doesn't apply properly I believe, thank the swedes for that.
>SMGs
They're kind of meme-tier honestly, the aim-down-sights movement speed boost isn't very noticeable. With that being said the Sta-11 SMG from the killzone collab and the Reprimand aren't bad for bugs for bullet hose and heavy damage respectively. Pummeler WAS good for the stun but like Pacifier it doesn't work properly as of now

>>536221204
>Piss station size
>30gb
Hmmm...

>>536221249
desu
>SE defense happens
>bugs and bots are sitting with a thumb up their asses
>"wtf why arent they doing anything"
Fast forward
>one side decides to attack several planets at once
>bots and squids are using said disarray to take planets

whether we lose planets or win planets, shit doesnt matter, cause we're not gonna see the end of the galactic war until 2030, if EoS doesnt happen by then.

>>536221204
Even with that in mind, it's unfathomable that these retards at AH looked at the game files weighing ~30GB, copy-pasted it all a million times until it was over four times the original size, and thought that was acceptable

>>536221204
Helldivers 2 is the game I own that takes the longest to load. I have an M.2 SSD. Even starfield loads faster than Helldivers 2.

Maybe the "significant effect on load times" os indeed code for "it takes longer this way"?

>>536221149
that's libcarb though

>>536220640
there's a grenade launcher emplacement?

>>536221204
if it's meant to improve load times on consoles then how come the filesize consoles is 100GB smaller?

So are these Legendary Warbonds just buy and receive or do I need Medals?

>>536221540
Joel is a conductor and he has a train to run on our asses.

He has been conducting trains on us for a very long time. bite the pillow because he is going in dry.

>>536221997
Yeah, nobody uses it though because of how limiting it is
>covers 180° infront of itself (make that closer to 160°)
>isnt AP4 so why bother
>still lets you get shot in the torso or in the head
>takes 3 seconds to set up once it lands, opposed to the HMGe being ready to go
Its fun to use here and there but requires you to play a lot more defensively or think about what you wanna blast with it. It works as an ersatz-mortar, but aside from that, you're better off running the HMGe, both for its longer range, and its AP4 usage.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241557991605/76561198335877145
D10 Whatev

>>536221540
well I mean objectively yeah it's way better that they DON'T sit with their thumbs up their asses but it's just so goddamn obvious and also annoying when there have been planets for months now on every front that have zero resistance whatsoever and should be easy pickins but it's hopeless to even try even if you somehow managed to wrangle half the playerbase onto one non-MO related planet since the GW just doesn't fucking work

>>536222291
full

>>536222291
failed

>>536222268
i dont care what joels plan is, im simply amazed by how stupid the community is, every single time.
im gonna dive on charbal because its funny to blast a hulks visor out during acid storms with the mg or other AP3 weapons
im gonna dive on some bug planet if i wanna relax and study exotic lifeforms (bugdivers and their stupidity)
sometimes, when i feel depressed, squid-diving, to remind myself on how good i actually have it by not playing squids.

joel can do as he pleases, i care not.
i go where i please, and i please where i go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvQ7nliCqbE
Marketing still entirely focused on friendly fire.

>>536223126
They're gonna learn quick to not do any funny tiktok clips of friendly firing others. Because they're gonna learn one important lesson.

War isn't so fun when the thing you're firing at, shoots back.

>>536223126
It's weird to me. The intro/ad that sold the game ("JOIN.... THE HELLDIVERS"). Is goofy, but not "lol, we kill each other" goofy. I bet they changed/fired the original marketing lead.

fags here simultaneously want the game to be unrealistically easy and also hate goofy shit like ragdoll and friendly fire

>>536223126
>entirely focused
you shouldn't use phrases or words you don't know the meaning of

>>536223489
Anonymous is not one person.

>>536223535
dont you have to be in school?

>>536223489
I don't think anybody here seriously defends ragdolling

>>536223489
They're never gonna make an armor passive that negates ragdolling because people would be running that shit all the time. It would rival Siege Ready, just for the QoL of not ragdolling all over the place.
Friendly Fire, however, it's fine to be there. It would make the game way easier to play through and WAY easier to grief others. Just toss Orbital Napalm on the objective or a 380mm and have your team stand in it, they're not gonna die to it.
Or take the SSSD and run away from people. They cant kill you. They lost.

>>536223126
There's a bit of a focus on friendly fire, but the main focus is the chaos of war.
I do agree that friendly fire is dogshit and swiggers are retards for not showing properly coordinated teamwork.
2 whole friendly reloads and 6 TKs and a total of 12 deaths.
There's surely a bias there.

>>536223489

it's hilarious how people shit on halo for being too childish when the helldivers experience is literally a slapstick comedy parody of military sci fi. The developers believe the "helldivers universe" is a joke and people try to pretend it should be taken seriously

>>536204668
The squids should have been a one time event, they got fucking destroyed on super earth

>>536224583
Ah yes, the so serious universe of helldivers, where the government you fight for is a saturday morning cartoon villain levels of stupidity and evilness.
Where the idea of a helldiver is to create shock troopers so retarded and willing to die for super earth, you might as well use them as glorified artillery spotters
Where all the important facilities to support SE are placed right next to the enemy front line, in the "Evil Ass Rape" sector.
Where all the MOs we've had so far, never had anything serious going on but "uhhh shoot some things and fuck up trying to take a planet because Joel exists"

How does anybody take this shit serious?

>>536224583
People liked this:
https://youtu.be/S9STizATKjE
Goofy camaraderie and badass monster killin'. AH accidentally made helldivers cool and they have been battling the community over this since forever. Their movie is going to mismatch the majority's expectations so fucking hard, and knowing them, they will double down and make a looney tunes acme collab and add a willy coyote armor.

>>536225037
but ayy, enough about starship troopers, eh? we're a halo general, rememba?

Guys, I've got this epic idea of how we can drum up hype for the xbox launch, we throw not one, not two, but THREE major orders at once to stifle any win, then when the playerbase has failed (they have to beat all 3 for it to count btw) xbox goes live and then save the day just like marvel's avengers!!

ngl bros, some of you are so pedantic you might as well work for the state at this point

>>536224583
The universe is only a joke from an outside perspective

why are you guys even upset about completing major orders
what are you gonna get if you win one? 100 sc? open a bunker lmao

Yes... I was there

Yes... i suck sloptuber cocks

>>536225437
People are upset that something that is potentially fun is being mismanaged and you are better off ignoring it.

Yes...I did the most important decision of my life - I uninstalled Helldivers 2

>>536225437
BUT MUH VIRTUAL PLANETS ARE IN DANGER!!!!

>take a planet
>nothing happens
>lose a planet
>nothing happens
Nothing ever happens

>>536225463
qrd?

>>536226043
Yes... The Quick Run Down..

Why does he keep railroading this shit? Does he actually think he's """"""GOD"""""" ???

>>536226043
Yes... This Sloptuber who keeps uploading YT videos with "Yes..." in his title with the most obvious thing you can do in video games like interacting with NPCs

>>536226313
He sounds white

>>536226115
me on the right

>>536226115
>how can I take the most unflattering picture of myself possible?

>>536225437
"Here's a mechanic that is important to the Galactic War, except the rewards are 50 medals, which you could easily get for playing 2 D6 operations and finding some at POIs. The objective? Some retarded shit. Your reason to partake in it? There is none."

>>536226115
Posture check

>>536226115
Based PectusGAWD

>>536226638
The craziest part is them promoting xbox players as reinforcements for this shit. When more players is actually a debuff because liberation rate is based on % of players participating.

>>536227069
Which is pretty retarded. But that's some swede quality code!

>>536226115
i look like this and do things like that

>>536226115
nature did not mother fucking intend for males to be this tiny and narrow shouldered

peak swedish jank

>>536226115
>>536227610
Thats a pregnant woman.

>>536227867
alexus: b-but it's realistic!!!

>>536219724
meant 2 say odst, fug

>>536227867
this is just where you start in the first mission of odst

>>536227610
Post a picture of yourself, I'm curious where this comment is coming from.

>>536229076
hi

>>536229076
No. You'll just have to take my word that my shoulders aren't narrower than those of the average Russian housewife.

>>536227610
anon would have a stroke if we send him back 100 years to some farming village and seeing that almost every dude there was a manlet

>>536229076
Sir, /soc/ is that way.

>>536229495
well not much else to talk about until the 26th really

i want to play odst

>>536229987
Let's complain about how these MOs are dogshit and impossible to finish

>>536230168
so go play ODST

>>536230168
https://store.steampowered.com/app/976730/Halo_The_Master_Chief_Collection/

>>536230168
There's a mod for that

>>536229987
nothing to talk about after the 26th either

>>536230168
Same. Post an MCC lobby bro

>>536230184
People keep saying other people are complaining that they are "impossible to finish" when the complaint is that the numbers are fucked and AH is gonna have to bail the playerbase. AGAIN. Which sucks balls, because players want to do the MO, not "Fail and then be told the goals were reduced so you win anyway!". It feels like shit to win this way.

>>536230861
>nothing to talk about after the 26th either

>>536231690
>cope
>reddit meme
oh yeah, it's tourist time

>another week of nothing
going back to play Todd's game

>>536231856
>muh secret club

>>536204776
We literally have the ideological, fanatical, hellbent on wiping humanity faction right fucking there on the bots yet they want the Halos to focus on the fucking Prometheans and their dogshit rosters.

>>536231989
nta but it's more that reddit is a website for faggots and retards, yes many times more so than 4cuck

you fags are just redditors that occasionally say nigger

>>536231856
>he know all about the current reddit memes
>calls some one else a redditor
really puts my cortex in a vortex

seeing how we got the wasp with killzone, what else will drop on tuesday? no way we have 3 impossible MOs only for a few extra players and one nostalgia bait warbond that will most likely be ass

>asmongler says he might be playing helldivers for the warbond
Oh god... expect for more newfags

>>536232252
pure cope, plebbitors generally are peer pressured trend chasing normies and therefore neither well behaved nor intelligent

>>536232614
He's based thoughbeit

>>536232614
WoW crowd are an efficient bunch, they might not have showered since 2015 but they'd figure out the game in mere hours. I'd rather have them than the nignogs that think aiming down sights shouldn't be part of a shooter experience.

>>536232614
Literally who?

>>536232614
>>536232767
>>536232971
asmon viewer's jumpscare

>>536232614
>not dragging our new friends on a d10 tour
fucking faggot

>>536232614
All hail the goblin king!

>>536233459
wait... doesn't xqc hold that title?

>>536232158
Halo players are going to HATE the illuminate.

>No real weakpoints like halo hunters, jackals or vehicles
>"obvious weakpoint" spots are fake and don't actually do anything
>Thing that looks like a flood carrier has one trillion HP and durable, so none of the halo weapons can kill it. It spawns in trivial.
>Everything takes one trillion shots to kill, even the flood zombie looking fucks
Good thing xbox doesn't do refunds!

>>536233089
if you take showers your a muttoid corpo drone for consooming water for your own benefits

>>536234053
i drink toilet water, its good for the environment

Are you going to tell me what they are Arrowhead or not?

>>536193637
NIGGER FAGGOT

>>536193583 (OP)
is anyone even farming SC anymore?

Once we get reinforcements from the X-Battallion led by gamertag xXx_St31n3r_xXx, we're gonna win this MO.

>>536233978
Don't care.
AR/SMG/Shotgun.
Magnum.
ODST armour & cape.
No matter the difficulty.
No matter the front.
I was Helldiving before this franchise was a sperm in Joel's balls.

>>536233978
>xbox doesn't do refunds
if this is true my sides are about to reach their apoapsis

>>536233978
nigga has never played halo on legendary

>>536235150
first time really doing SC farming, had no idea how fast this really was, with the LRV and warp pack im consistently getting like 40-50 SC every 4 minutes, just got to 1510 SC, looks like im done farming for now, its BS the halo warbond doesn't have the 300 SC refund though

>>536235227
Sir, it is mathematically impossible to retake all the planets current under attack due to the liberation cap.
What's more, intelligence has indicated that a third Squid kill order is on it's way.

>>536235423
>its BS the halo warbond doesn't have the 300 SC refund though
source?

>>536235423
I just want to farm SC for the odst warbond but cant find anyone farming.

>>536235261
you sound like a toddler who has keys jingling Infront of them, you are getting nostalgia bated hard, the warbond will most likely be shit but singe its Gaylo you are turning off your brain

>>536235571
good, fuck you haha

>>536235513
im too lazy to find it, but it was confirmed no 300 SC in warbond, somewhere on the subreddit or discord.

>>536235571
I did it all solo, once you clear most POIs you just cancel mission, select a bug sand planet on trivial

>>536235470
>Using Sir instead of Mein Führer
Filthy britbong

>>536235410
I'd rather fight ten golden elites with swords in CE than play the illuminate.

>>536235846
yeah, just found it faster with other people because of the 100-300 SC in the bunkers.

>>536236078
plasma pistol - magnum combo is broken so....

>>536236078
That's because the CE elites aren't a fast-track to narcolepsy.

>>536236287
you dont have the warp pack? the 100 sc drop is super rare and to get several people in one match you have to actually complete the missions if you want everyone to get back to the lobby, its much faster solo, even if there was a bunker you would have to wait more time for someone to even get to you

>>536235470
...the only people to not leave the room are Joel, Alexus and N*grah...
THAT WAS AN ORDER!
THE REINFORCEMENTS LED BY xXx_St31n3r_xXx WAS AN ORDER! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, TO REFUSE MY ORDERS!?
So this is what it has come to...betrayed by the XboxChads! Everyone betrayed me! Even the DSS! The entire High Command is nothing but a bunch of cowardly faggots under the disguise of Pilestedt's wet dreams!

>>536236480
anything resembling a halo reach elite in leathality would cause /hdg/ to piss and shit their pants

leathality

Lobby.... doko......

>>536236659
>to get several people in one match you have to actually complete the missions if you want everyone to get back to the lobby
only if you do the main

>>536236663
I would have done well to turn the population into zombie slaves LIKE THE SQUIDS DID

Is this the Halo thread?

We're not getting anything besides the warbond in next patch.

>>536236850
The oversaars are mathematically stronger than all elite variants in terms of damage output vs player health and enemy health vs player handheld weapons. Thing is, their AI is garbage, unlike old Halo enemy AI, which still holds up to this day.

>>536237427
I hope so because I value my mods more than the next dozen warbonds, and I don't want modders - who are the leading party when it comes to fixing and improving this game - to lose free time adjusting their great work to another ikea jank patch.

>>536237780
I'm in the same shoes. I will have to update 6 armor and multiple variations of them if things break again. And these are the mods I uploaded on nexus myself. If I had to update the entirety of 50 mods I have installed myself I would kill myself.

>>536237780
how is recolouring textures fixing the game?

lobby
nao

d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241572739648/76561198066017633

>>536238520
Arrowhead are evidently too demented to be trusted with texture work

>>536239929
4/4

>>536194661
prostrating stalkers the second one got mad because you didnt give her spanks like the first

First reply decides what front I main for the whole MO

>>536240619
Squids
Have fun nigger

>>536240619
squids

>>536232614
is that the nurgle worshipper i hear so much about?

>>536193583 (OP)
>quick play to someone
>hes crawling on the ground super fast
>end mission
>notice i have like 700 more super credits than before
Thanks

>>536232252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp5wvpkf-EA

>>536194937
>being mad someone is spending money
>everyone else jewish thoooooooooooooooo

>>536237323
it is now

>open game
>three different gayjor orders at the same time and they're all just "kill x faction"
Fucking JOEL

I dont know why you guys want to play with each other, playing with randoms is enjoyable, if you are a high level, other high level players will join you and know what to do.
I played with you guys once and was greeted by the most socially stunted outcasted individual who would say nigger every 5 minutes

>>536241545
It's just fun kicking back with the boys and enjoying an operation where everyone isn't retarded
Will say that it can be a bit dull sometimes when things go too smoothly but I've never had any problems playing with /hdg/

>>536237780
Don't worry, they'll find a way to break mods regardless. I honestly think it's intentional at this point, they went a year without doing anything and now it's every major patch.

>>536241545
>Generalize your entire worldview off of one session from one autist
Sounds like a (You) problem. I haven't had any issues playing with /hdg/

T6 modules have been delayed until Xbox players can catch up to T5 overall.

>>536241545
funny enough I've been playing with hdg for almost a year now and never had something like that happen.
Sounds like a (you) issue

>>536241814
>>536242245
its because you guys are the socially stunted outcasted individuals

>>536241781
I don't want to believe they're this retarded but at the same time I feel that it's possible. Fucking hell why would you fight people that improve and expand your game for free? Can pettiness go this far?

>>536242149
t6 modules drop on tuesday as well as 200 level cap and if either isn't true I'm casting an ancient mayan curse to turn you into femboy

>>536242149
2 year anniversary got it

I'm glad I didn't decide to bother with any of these gay-ass MOs today.

>>536241545
were you the socially stunted outcasted individual who would say nigger every 5 minutes
you sound like it

>>536241545
I've never had any problems playing with /hdg/. In fact my experiences are very positive and some of you guys are hilarious.

>>536243464
based
the only reward for Joel's dangling carrot chase is frustration with an aftertaste of shame

are we getting a ton of medals from these m.o’s bros? not at my computer and the companion app won’t load for me
i’m at like 175 iirc, i wana know if i should spend any lest they get consumed by the cap

>>536244394
Assuming we win all three we should get 165 so yeah at that point it'd go over, and even if not its 55 each

>>536244670
well shit. i suppose i can buy the meme flag then, or maybe the hoverpack/dynamite….

Why is there even a currency cap? Let me hoard my spoils like a magpie damn it!

Where's my Orbital Lightning Barrage?

>>536245343
personally i’d like a mega death laser that slowly coalesces smaller lasers onto the point it was stuck to before absolutely glassing one area in particular
we need more orbitals in general

>>536235627
>NOOOOOOOOOOO IT WON'T BE META IT'S CRINGE
You're preaching to a general that actively uses

>B-01
>Liberator
>Peacemaker
>G-12 High Explosive
>MG-43 Machine Gun
>Orbital Precision Strike
>Last 2 Strats from any of the Lv1 unlock options

>>536242378
Do not underestimate the ability of swigger to be retarded.

>>536245343
I'd make it a massive tungsten rod that pierces into the ground killing absolutely everything in its path before it starts serving as a receiving pole for a lightning arc all the way from the ship to the ground. Cinema.

>>536245904
>defender/knight
>verdict/senator
>light gunner armor
>eagle strafe
>orbital penis strike
>machine gun
>riot shield
whats wrong with being basic?

>>536245904
peacemaker is good on d10 bugs. In stops the faggots en mass due to bullets penetrating and applying stun to 2 or 3 lines of them. Then you can grenade them.
>b-but not dead
Due to the math involved, they die at about the same rate as against a liberator or penetrator. Except they are now not on top of you.

Disclaimer: This is only true when stun fucking works.

>bore rock health slowly dropping
Ruh roh

So, after 1 year, 6 months and 14 days, which armor category to take?

>>536248137
The one that looks coolest to you.

>>536248137
For me, it's the semi-light armor.

>>536248137
Medium with Extra Padding/Ballistic Padding has zero downsides. You're mobile enough for it to not be annoying to the point you consider Jump Pack/Warp Pack as mandatory, and you're as tanky as stock heavy.

>>536248137
Base helldiver armor
It just werks

>>536246932
Peacemaker is the starter pistol, anon...

>>536248137
Always heavy, all the time. Took it before it even worked.

>>536248137
Light for bugs, medium for squids, and heavy for bots.

>>536248137
medium with padding can be seen as heavy with a perk that increases speed and stamina, almost
heavy is also reliable if you can work with the slow
liggers tend to die a lot but i like the scout perk

>>536239929
3/4 second campaign

>>536104281
>>536138219
Bugsisters, we got too cocky...

I woke up and remembered the shitpost I was going to make for this new MO.
>be Narrowhead
>be arrogant swedes
>design an MO before Xbox launch that requires more players and definitely will fail without them
>don't even look at preorder numbers or active Xbox players on co-op shooters
>everyfing weel be fine, slava svedka da?
>Xbox launch day
>3 more players log on
>whuhoh.tif

>>536239929
4/4

>MA5C
>120 damage
>medium pen
>650 rpm
>32 round mag
>fast reload (same as in halo 3)
>65 ergonomics
>nearly no bloom or recoil
Thank me later.

lobby

>>536249468
nice fan fiction

>>536248573
I'm retarded and old. All weapon names blur together for me as of late. Soon, I will talk about how the crisper is a good shotgun or something. FUCK.

>>536249468
60 dmg AP2, got it

>>536249804
Nope.

>>536248137
Heavy armor if you're a chad. Light armor if you're a metafag. Medium padded if you're a True Helldiver. Medium if you don't care.

And aesthetics > everything so if you look good you automatically win.

>>536249215
>Narrowhead
why didn't I come up with that

>>536250023
Because you're a creatively sterile sloppafag

>>536238520
Helldiverized Armor unironically fixes this games fucked up aesthetic where the swedes haven't used material and color standardization in any capacity. Simple LUT edits make Helldivers actually look like fucking Helldivers again.

larbby dooku

>>536249946
but light armor retards tend to waste all team reinforcements because they die to a sneeze

LOBBYBYY DOOKKOOO

>>536250209
fair

There is literally no reason why armor customization isnt a thing yet

I tried playing the battle rifle loadout with the Tenderizer to get a feel for it again, against the automatons. Just a quick level 4 operation to clear by myself.

Yeah I REALLY do not want to be stuck with light pen whenever I can help it. Has more damage than med pen? Fucking please, if you hit armor or miss due to aiming at small parts that are not armored, you deal zero damage. There are enough Hulks and Striders here that I had to fall back to my pistol which doesn't actually do zero damage to chicken crotches.

Masochists all of you.

>>536250335
the medium parade armor is the closest we'll ever get to medium siege ready because AH are faggots

>>536249927
>"WE ALREADY ANSWERED EARLIER YOU FUCKING IDIOT"
Why are they so passive aggressive?

>>536250335
>mfw the only decent siege ready armor is HEAVY

>>536250603
aimlet got filtered kek

>>536250581
the answer to everything that has been suggested since launch is simply that the swedes cannot make it happen without breaking 15 other things for every 1 change. All they can do at this point is generate dogshit warbonds for a cash grab that require low effort and low innovation. This is the state of your game

Make AMR get 2 mags instead of 1 per ammo box
Remove the sway on the medic pistol, and make its projectile move faster
And most importantly - fix your fucking firepool system. I've sprayed the Torcher at enemies and nothing happened, but the moment I touch my toe ONCE while diving backwards and firing, the whole area around me is on fire.

>>536250335
Cinderblock looks cooler so it's the best

>>536250653
because they dont care about you and want you to give them them your shekels for their trash and stfu

>>536250603
+1 for effort, but terrible bait

>>536248137
default armor
never not s-tier

>>536241545
I managed to get to 150 almost entirely off just quickplay, if the game kept track of operations completed I'd probably have sub-50 until I started hosting lobbies for /hdg/ recently
It's fun, it's nice knowing people aren't inept so you can take shit you don't usually use or is genuinely bad and level it or try things out, and others can too and you can win by just smashing your skulls against the wall
I just don't like that /hdg/ is all about namecalling for no reason and it never goes anywhere when people could be talking about the game
fucking /tfg/ never had issues talking about a game that hadn't gotten updated in forever

>>536249468
>Halo Shotgun
>585 damage
>65 damage per pellet, 9 pellets, 13 durable per pellet
>light pen (actually AP1)
> 80 rpm
>6 round mag
>18 round supply
>fast reload (same as in halo 3)
> 65 ergonomics
>nearly no bloom or recoil
Thank me later.

D10
Lobby Picks

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241579965589/76561197999417031

>>536251662
2/4

>>536251098
I've been reskinning all the other armors as base armor. The helldivers look is pretty sick.

>>536248137
I'm convinced nothing is better at death prevention than fortified.

>>536251978
The secret is that basically everything that is not a projectile or an element is coded as an explosion for some reason.

>>536251415
>/tfg/
well, that's easily explained. TF2 is from a better time when the world was a lot less bitter and poor. if a TF3 hit right now it would be pure vitriol as well. being good just isn't fashionable anymore.

Once you get good at the game and no longer need diapers (bubble, padded, explos resist, etc) you will come to terms that the best armor is Servo assisted. The ability to throw your strats and nades farther, faster, and with the added limb health bonus outclasses any other perks. You're welcome

>>536251617
>AP1
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AHAHAHAHAHA
OHNONONONO
IT FUCKING SUCKS EVEN AS A LIGHT WEAPON
HALF THE DAMAGE TO FUCKING WARRIOR HEADS
OUTFUCKING PERFORMED BY THE BUSHWACKER
HAHAHAHAHA
IT CAN'T EVEN ONESHOT BERSERKERS ON THE STOMACH
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>536251662
3/4

>>536252406
limb health is a boogeyman that never seems to work right, because broken limbs are 50/50 no matter what
either my arm is fucking broken or it isnt.
throwing strats further only matters if you are using orbitals or dont want to walk 10 meters closer to a target
the only armor that matters is whatever suits your playstyle or your loadout, thats the most important thing. right after fashion, of course.

>>536252406
lmao servo was a hard sell even before the jump pack got reformed into a fast travel button. now it ranks among the worst. they should fix it by adding the buff from the muscle enhancement booster.

>>536251617
There's no way its AP1. Only the SnP was AP1 before it got buffed to AP2, and that thing fires BIRDSHOT

>>536251662
full

>>536252680
don't forget that the svinoserb is in charge of balance
do you really think he would let a collab weapon not be completely awful on his watch?

>>536251617
>8 gauge magnum is ap1
Not even the Swede is this spitful. Fake

>be halokek
>start playing heckdivers 2 for the ebin warbond
>welcomed by dogshit MO
>also your favorite shotgun is the worst gun in the game right after the peacemaker

>>536252659
Being a cyborg only letting you throw grenades further is so weird to me.

>>536252930
I'm going to bet they think 8 gauge means it's smaller than 12 gauge.

>>536253059
I feel sad for halobabbies, all they have left is nostalgia after 15 years without a good game. And then their newest shot ends up in game balanced by swiggers that hate fun almost as much as they hate their playerbase

Stat-wise speaking, what would be the best AR / Shotgun to bring for gloom bugs?
Their body parts have 80% durable, so now I'm busy doing the big thinkin'. The DCS doesnt seem to one-tap their heads, so DMRs seem like a bad choice.

Is the best option really to magdump their heads until they pop with whatever you got at hand?

>>536253059
and its not like the others are any better off
>AR is another cqc spray item with no range
>pistol is a peacemaker reskin
>the ODST SMG, well, it's an SMG
F tier

>>536252916
I bet the killzone "rework" is actually debuffs.

>>536251617
>>6 round mag
>>18 round supply
The AR was believable but this is too much

>>536250603
>he couldn't get through a level FOUR with a light pen primary
I'm gonna remember this the next time someone bitches about medium pen being required.

>>536252876
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>536253320
>>536253257
Yeah, I hope the anon is lying.
But it would be so funny in a sad way if those dogshit stats are true.

>>536253425
nta but medium pen isn't required, just superior

>>536253257
>all they have left is nostalgia
I mean yea pretty much, it's not like there's a single studio out there right now that could actually make a good Halo game. There's barely any studios now that can make a good game period, and often times these days if it does happen it's purely by accident. Helldivers being a perfect example of that.

>>536253659
How come all the people that enjoyed making good videogames suddently died?

>>536253425
>he couldn't get through
Anon you are indeed a masochist, reading things that aren't written because you must justify busting your balls as a universal moral standard. Light pen is objectively ass even at difficulty 4 and it should warrant a kicking on D10 for wasting everyone's time and respawns.

>>536253795
Beats me. But we're left with the D team that is the computerized equivalent of a room of typewriter monkeys that occasionally shits out something coherent. The literal only thing keeping gaming alive are the occasional indie hit. I'm not counting the yearly slop releases like COD or sports games because that's the vidya equivalent of the new season of whatever slop is on TV. Normies will CONSOOOOM and so big companies have no motivation to make something good if shit is already good enough for most people.

>>536253659
>There's barely any studios now that can make a good game period, and often times these days if it does happen it's purely by accident.
Very much a true fact.
If you're ever bored, go sift through the steam market, itchio, GOG, Newgrounds, whatever the fuck place you get your kick of video games from.
Look at how many games look interesting from the thumbnail alone, and how many shoo you away because you look at the tags.
How many video games out there are actually some "HIDDEN GEM" that a small cult following loves, how many are just the worst thing a game can be - MEDIOCRE, and how many are obvious cashgrab bait; using whatever was popular at the time to try and make a quick buck?
I've gone through 5k games in my Steam Queue by now, and let me tell you, MAYBE 20 games there looked interesting to play.

I'm not a game developer, I'm just a gamer. So I'm wondering what goes through people's minds when making a video game and not thinking about actually making it fun to play or somewhat interesting to engage with.

>>536254349
>So I'm wondering what goes through people's minds when making a video game and not thinking about actually making it fun to play or somewhat interesting to engage with.
I think the biggest cultural shift happened around 2010 give or take a couple years, up until then the vast majority of games were made by people that were passionate about making games, usually the game they wanted to play. Obviously they were heavily invested in the game being good as a result. The cracks had started to appear around 2006 even, with horse armor. But I'd say around 2010 is when there was a massive shift and big companies realized they could just start shoveling out slop by the truck loads and people would slurp it up. And it's been all downhill from there.

>>536253320
>AR is another cqc spray item with no range
Those are literally my favorite guns so I don't care. Range is for faggots, look the enemy in the eye when you kill them.

>>536253351
Anon, the Halo shotty has always had 6 shots per tube since Halo 3. The trailer even shows 6 shots in the bottom right.

Eyes to the sky was just slang. Meaning the new warbond is likely not air themed.

>>536249468
The Adjudicator is 95 damage, so that is really quite unlikely. Tenderizer is at 105. If they actually wanted it to have more damage + faster fire rate to make it a close range damage dealer then I could see 100, though I dunno if that would make any breakpoints. The MA5 series is huge for a bullpup.

>>536255058
im a fucking schizo and even i figured out that "eyes to the sky" is slang
do some niggas take EVERYTHING serious?

>>536255034
Yes I know 6 per tube, I'm talking about only 18 in reserve. There's no fucking way.

>>536255203
Literally nobody says "eyes to the sky"

i would be willing to spend medals or super samples to get an operation with missions or modifiers of my own liking
im fucking TIRED of going through each operation just to see bricks or eradication
modifiers? so i always have shriekers or gunships enabled. bug spores is cancer. leviathans are a non-issue.
could even make it as far as "you dont get any rewards from this operation, so its JUST for fun"

call that shit the proving grounds or the battle simulations, i dont fucking know

>>536254168
the problem is that a lot of shit that shouldn't have high armor, does. I don't think there was a talk about what each tier of armor means to the monster design team or the weapon design team.

An "assault" rifle may have trouble penetrating personal armor, but it wouldn't bounce off. At best, the damage would be mitigated by porcelain plates and the soldier would keel over injured, possibly duing if many rounds found purchase.

What should this translate to? if the game had verisimilitude, it would mean that because the primary assault rifle is AP2, that heavy personal armor and thin vehicle armor would be AP2. This means stuff like hive guards and devastators shouldn't have armor higher than 2 anywhere. But there was a communication issue or something somewhere. because for all practical purposes, enemies in the "shoot them with an assault rifle" bracket tend to have armor 3 and higher.

>>536255219
"it's too powerful for a primary. We had to make cuts somewhere" - Alexus, probably

>>536255097
>The Adjudicator is 95 damage, so that is really quite unlikely. Tenderizer is at 105
These guns are known precision weapons, complete with scopes. The Halo AR has never in its life been a precision weapon, notably struggles at range, and the Helldivers version is so authentic that the first-person mode still has you hipfiring it. There's absolutely no way to be accurate with it beyond close-medium.

The only effective way to make this gun good is turning it into the Reprimand's big daddy.

>Reinforcements are en route
Yeah, theyre 100% going to do a "dont worry guys! the eckbacks players are here to save us!" Kinda cringe if Im being completely honest

>>536255634
>"it's too powerful for a primary. We had to make cuts somewhere" - Alexus, probably
The chimpout would be apocalyptic, even in halo 3 after the shotgun had been firmly castrated(twice) you could still carry 30 in reserve.

>>536255768
And it will be kino when they do.

>>536254168

holy fuck you are trash buddy. light pen primaries handle every faction in the game with ease if you aren't a mouth breathing controller user

>>536255705
The halo ass rifle has computer assisted aiming in-lore. This is why marines had the little flip visor thing and the rifles have no iron sights.

>>536255768
so fucking predictable >>536235470

>>536255768
>Kinda cringe if Im being completely honest
So the usual miggershit.

Joels going to have to cut the illuminate goal in half again like last time

>>536254349
>So I'm wondering what goes through people's minds when making a video game and not thinking about actually making it fun to play or somewhat interesting to engage with.
You have to recognize that vast majority of people alive right now aren't interesting, have very shallow interests and are generally just float through their lifes without a deeper thought in their head. Average person is absolutely fine with slop that's only as good as a distraction and pointless time waster or simply doesn't know better. Even if there's a developer out there that's willing to go beyond it, it's very unlikely he can get multiple people sharing his vision onboard and alone he would never match the level of effort put out by others, and honestly, why would he? Mobile games, especially of the simple nature, are simply king when it comes to earning money. Almost everyone, when faced with the choice betwen putting out a cheap and quick slop that earns them millions or a visionary game that will be forgotten before it's even out will choose the first option.

How many new players will we get with xcock release????
5k 10k 20k??
Seems like AH thinks we'll get 50k but thats seems completely unreal past the first days.

>>536255768
imagine if the xbobx launch is a complete failure or such a technical disaster that xbots can't even play the game for a week
wouldn't that be funny haha

>>536255634
>M90A was originally med pen
>but after clearing d5 with a record 15 deaths. It was clear that it had to be nerfed

>>536255859
You have no idea what "kino" means

I fucking hate context button console controls on a desk dogshit. We have keys. Give PC players a full blown KBM control scheme. Let me bind resupplying my mate to F5 so I don't have to risk flipping on his hellbomb. There is a weapon with 9 firing options let me bind keys to them, FUCK. LAZY SWEDES. MAKE. YOUR. GAME. BETTER.

>>536256071
Sure would be a shame if something happened to arrowdick's servers. Then again Joel™ would just handwave it anyway.

>>536239929
GGs

>>536255991
>he thinks these are winnable MOs
its flavor there is basically no MO right now

any news on the star wars collab?

>>536256624
Thats not how real life works, sweetie.

>>536255768
are you saying I can make it harder on xcucks by ignoring squids?

>>536255886
Not how it translates to gameplay, where you still couldn't hit anything past 20 meters with it.

I like how they never fixed the game from when they broke it before their vacay

I like how they said they were going to fix the game when they came back and nothing has happened.

>>536256765
I want to say it would be lame but at the same time I would spill blood for snow trooper drip.

I like how the epoch is still shit and will never be buffed

>>536257023
Yes, and the point being that NOT having a HUD ring for "first person" (ADS) is actually the opposite of authentic.

I like how Pacifier still can't do damage

>>536255991
>be a horde faction
>have the lowest kill goal out of everyone
>set to have the lowest percentage out of it completed, even compared to the faction with a kill goal that's six times higher
OH NO NO NO SQUIDKEKS

>>536257325
Your B-24 Enforcer?

>>536257629
close but not full blown authenticity

I like how the sound is bugged and if you let it go on for too long the game starts freezing

I want a markerlight support weapon that drops orbital strikes on your target.

>>536257325
I want to cut the legs off a bile titan with a lightsaber and rip a leviathan out of the sky with the force

>>536257361
It's far from shit.

>>536258040
I want to jerk off a helldiver on the other side of the map with the force and make him cum and make him look like a weirdo

>>536257981
I want a stratagem launcher that can shoot a gem orb like an AT projectile so I can throw my 500kg at a 500m target.

>>536258252
ok alexus

all I want is talon primary and laser focused atmor

>>536258324
IT WAS ME BARRY

>>536195021
A real shame to see it die. The first few months during the game's early access were both fun and chaotic as hell. It had so much potential only to squander the fuck outta it

which difficulty to play if i haven't played since the first month

>>536258342
Talon primary is inevitable. The important question is whether it will be good. Will they let it be a full-blown DMR and not give it retarded spread or some other dumb pointless limitation? I have my concerns.

>>536258342
We still need some kind of laser-themed throwable so I can make a full pissdiver loadout