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>Falcom Games
https://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)
https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL

>Kai MTL patch
https://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z

UPDATED: 21/08
>Ys X: Proud Nordics coming west in early 2026 for Switch 2 and PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjgJnBtV-j4
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter Demo is OUT for PS5, Switch and Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3375780/Trails_in_the_Sky_1st_Chapter/
>New Interviews with Kondo with Estelle and Joshua seiyuus impression on their character roles
https://www.a9vg.com/article/235712
https://dengekionline.com/article/202508/50197
>Trails in the Sky 1st Remake - 50 Minutes of New Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5qHy23_hkA
>The Legend of Heroes: Trails beyond the Horizon New Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQELYrJXO-A
>Trails in the Sky the 1st website UPDATED
https://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/
>Trails beyond the Horizon is coming to Switch 2 and delayed to January 2026
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon-adds-switch-2-version-delayed-to-january-2026-in-the-west
>Ys vs. Trails in the Sky - Character Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlnkFZ4NGI

>>536228616 (OP)
Prediction: There will be a teaser for 2nd Chapter after the credits in 1st Chapter

If you are being a schizo in this thread, I will do this to you.

Cute and canon!

>>536229043
Kurt. Let it go, buddy.

According to Falcom, you are a hag if you reach 16...

>>536228845
I would like that

Prediction:
>professor approaches joshua in grancel
>"not on my watch you don't"
>van and company appear and beat up weissman
>"It's time to fix this timeline"
To be continued in ̶T̶r̶a̶i̶l̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶S̶k̶y̶ ̶2̶n̶d̶ ̶C̶h̶a̶p̶t̶e̶r̶ Trails Beyond the Horizon 2

>>536229396
KEK.

>>536229551
wow this was hilarious the first time you posted it and it's only gotten even funnier the next 900000 times you made that joke

>>536228980
This is being disingenuous, the problem isn't that Falcom released an updated game with new content, the problem is that they didn't say anything about it AFTER the vanilla game was localised and out for 3 months. So people who bought it felt ripped off that their version is now outdated and people who waited to get the game now have to wait even more for the latest version.

>>536229551
But beating up Weissmann would mess up the timeline.

Can Van's arc just end already?
I'm gonna go crazy if our next MC is another dark haired male with "muh inner demon"

>>536230040
maybe making the sky remake will remind falcom that they can make other characters

Kai 2? (raughs) Never heard of it.

>>536230040
Next MC should be a hot teenage girl. Give her a shota lol.

>>536230040
Don't worry, the next arc's MC will be a dark haired female with "muh inner demon"

>>536230159
give her big boobs and make her tease a bunch of shotas

>>536230219
Uh based!? Then make the one after that a HAG.

>>536230090
Haha, this is what we do: remake Sky 1 - 3, then take the franchise in a completely new direction. No, not a reset. Just ignore that those trash games ever existed.

>>536230219
>tease shotas
>one shota falls in love
>said shota goes to confess his love to her
>he witnesses the MC confess her love to another man much older than him (or maybe her too)
>shota gets mindbroken
>we get a sidequest where MC has to heal his broken heart, not knowing she's the cause.(optional)
yeah, I'm thinking kino

>>536230390
That would make all of the male fans that love Lloyd, Rean, Rufus and Van upset.

>>536230171
Fem MC = skip

Nobody likes Van and Rufus

>>536230171
So Velvet?

>>536230390
I just want my Arteria Gralsritter academy arc.

>>536231154
I liked Rufus. Though I didn't really think of him as a protagonist.

>>536231416
why do retards want every single thing to be about high school

>>536231524
Trust me, kiddo, once midlife crisis hits you'll also yearn for your youth. Though for me it's also because JC and JK waifus are the most fuckable. Don't need hags.

>>536231416
Gothic kino.....

>>536231524
The field trips were the best part of Cold Steel.

>>536230040
Van is the best kiseki protagonist thoughever

>>536231416
didn't read a damn thing you just posted but dominion candidate MC sounds cool.
make it a female MC so we can see sexy nuns

>>536231714
Based old wizard

>>536231791
What point is there having sexy nuns when you play as a chick? I'm not into yuri shit. I just want to self insert into a bland generic male MC and sate cute girls.

>>536231791
You can have a male MC and fuck those sexy nuns.

>>536231791
>make it a female MC so we can see sexy nuns
This

>>536229396
I mean it's true but still, don't be mean to hags.

Did anyone check if it is possible to use English translation for the CLE version of YS PROUD NORDICS??

>>536232116
>fuck
We don't do that, so no.

So we've got (not counting gaiden protags):
regular bracer => regular cop bracer => high school student with a secret dark powers who also pilots a mecha => self employed handyman who's secretly a demon lord and can transform into a kamen rider => ...?

>>536230090
Looks impressive until you change it to 7 years.

>>536228616 (OP)
I'm just happy that we're actually getting actual posters coming back and discussing stuff and not some retard spamming post, though I don't know how long this would last.

>two sept terrions = at least two more MCs
Both should be girls. One and JK the other a hag.

>>536232727
Well no, because Rean had two sept-terrions. Our next harem king will probably have two sept-terrions.

>>536231078
>>536230759
Sara...SARA!!!!

>>536232487
>Peaked around 2021, around Kuro's JP release
They captured the lightning in the bottle with that but the subsequent games are pure ass.
Kai was a literal nothingburger until the last 2 hours.

>>536233032
I'd rather have one per arc. A trilogy each. With girl MCs.

>>536233419
Nah, we'll be getting into a threesome with two smoking hot sept-terrions and a male MC.

>>536232669
Give it two weeks before it would return to that. Then we returned to actual discussion again after Sky remake got released.

>>536233261
GRENDEL BLANCO reveal was great, but honestly that's the only thing that people really remember. Rean vs Shizuna is probably the far second.

>Sky is Gundam 79
>Zeta would be Crossbell
>Erebonia gets to be SEED (Destiny)
>Kuro is Victory
>The final entry in the franchise will either be CCA or GKEKS

>>536233261
kuro 1 was decent so there was no big drop between it and kuro 2
kuro 2 did a huge damage to the series and kai basically killed any hype
i feel like falcom wanted to sit on two stool with kai, but it only alienated those who actually enjoyed kuro 1 and didn't really bring those who left after sen 4

>>536233568
No

>>536233261
Grim...

Sky will sell 1m in one month, I'm calling it

>>536233261
I just wanna know whether Hermes got timejannied into Creil in the remake or whether the Sky remake is strictly pure remake and have no connection to the dumpster fire that is Kai.

>>536234208
If they connect it to Kai, I'm never playing another Falcom game ever again.

>>536234131
Yes. The two sept-terrions will both fight over the male MC. One has big breasts, the other is a loli.

>>536234384
N-no...

How can water and wind sept-terrions top the time sept-terrion in terms of scope?

>>536234479
The Sept-terrion with the big breasts will take pleasure in constantly tit mogging the loli and will shove her breasts in the loli's face to try and prove to the male MC that she deserves to be loved by him.

>>536228616 (OP)
>Finished the demo
I legitimately can't believe this is the same company that made Kai. We have so many unique character animations and it's like they're actually giving efforts now.

>>536234732
kai was shit cause they spent most of the dev time making this

>>536234547
Time should have been the last one

>>536234326
Kondo: "We made sure that the game will be even surprising to old fans who followed Estelle and friends on her journey before. Let's just say that some events won't quite play out as you remember them. *laughs* "

>>536234732
to be fair kai has way more characters

>>536234732
Sky remake is Falcom's Battlefield 6. It's their do or die game.

>>536234662
>>536234869

>>536234975
It's less of a sink or swim game and more of "get this right and we'll get traction of new audiences or fail to do so and stay niche" game.
Even if Sky-R's sales got less than expected, they would still continue, but by cutting more corners like always.

>>536234732
>so many unique character animations and it's like they're actually giving efforts now.
Well, now that they decided to reuse old royalty free N64 textures they can put more money into animations.

sky 1st reuses a bunch of calvard animations tho

>>536234732
They either realized they're fucked after fucking up the current games or they've got more passion for Sky. Either way, I need them to do this again.

>>536234732
That guy had zero rizz as a villain.

>>536235414
>>536232669

>>536233760
>i feel like falcom wanted to sit on two stool with kai, but it only alienated those who actually enjoyed kuro 1 and didn't really bring those who left after sen 4
Yeah, it was a complete fuckup. They genuinely expected muh Rean to single-handedly carry the game to success only for it to fall completely flat. You can only hope the shareholders bitching will light a fire under Kondom's ass, but I won't be surprised if they just double down on trying to sell it based on the EVERYONE IS HERE garbage.

WTF? Why are they time-gating the cosmetics DLC?
>First set is on launch
>Second set is week from launch
>third set is 2 weeks from launch.

Listen to me, Kondom.
I can save your series
Two female MCs
One quiet but sharp-tongued cool beauty JK, Another genki and nonchalant young woman but reliable when the chips are down.
Make both of them hot as fuck too.

>>536235725
No one wants that yuri shit anon.

>>536235714
Falcom always does this, you simply haven't had to experience the staggered release schedule.

>>536235625
It's unironically hilarious how many times Falcom got away with EVERYONE IS HERE for years.

If Sky 1st does decently well, they'll probably throw Kai 2 under the bus, like with the previous two games.

>>536235874
they'll throw kai 2 under the bus regardless

>>536235874
>fc remake does well - kai 2 is low effort shit like the previous one while they work on sc
>fc remake fails - kai 2 is still low effort since they're losing money
The game is fucked no matter what.

Odds that Kai 2 (or whatever Van's final game is going to be named) use this Sky remake's engine instead of the old Kuro-Kai one?

>>536235874
Newfags don't care about the game. On youtube it's literally only the same old Kiseki fags talking about it. Not a single newfag. Even Daybreak 1 and 2 had more newfags talk about it.

>>536236174
It's the same engine.

>>536236072
Then lack of passion is the issue, not effort.
>>536236173
They should probably just make that first to get it outta the way. Make it real short if need be.

>>536236174
You want to make it look like an N64 or Dreamcast game that looks worse than CS2? Why?

>>536235870
*raughs*

>>536236174
nigga all falcom games now use the same engine just slightly modified

dunno if I like the combat/music/no after battle fanfare results
maybe I do?

>>536236530
Yeah it's pretty obvious all their passion went into the FC remake while they couldn't have cared less about the Calvard games. You only have to play Sky 1st for a couple of hours or just read Kondos interviews over the last couple of years to see that.

>>536234732
Sky has always been Falcom's passion project. They definitely gave way more efforts than usual.

>>536236819
Does Sky 1st have a director?

>>536235725
Cringe SoL tier idea.

>>536236545
With AI tech so advanced these days, why don't falcom just AI generate textures? Why does the fucking remake use a 64 pixel texture for large environments? It makes no sense. Texture generation would be the only field for AI I would be okay with if Falcom used it for game development. Yet they use some royalty free textures they found on the internet in 2004. Literally what the fuck?

Smooch!

>>536236994
who's cock is that?

1st Joshua doesn't look dead inside 0/10 game

>>536237301
one of my favorite details was how in the 1st half of sc the light in joshuas eyes is completely gone but once he reunites with estelles and sorts himself out the light returns to his eyes and modern falcom just can't replicate things like that

>>536237468
Yeah, he looked full of life as a kid when Estelle looked in his eyes. I can already tell that SC (2nd?) won't hit the same.

Who the fuck even built Bose Market in the remake. Fire that retarded architect!

They better change his eyes when leaves for milk

>>536237691
Isn't it just wood Anon.

>>536237691
Your IQ us less than 100. Congrats.

>>536233261
The forced swap to action mode with white grendel caught me off guard but man, that was really cool.

>>536238306
If your friendo says so, then ok.

>>536238306
>ChatGPT: "The textures in this game are shit, can't even use actual wood plank textures."
Kukukukuku

>>536234732
isn't this remake outsourced? I can't member

>>536236174
Retard it's the same engine. Falcom just added stylized cel shading to the remake

>yfw when Sky the 1st IS Kai 2 in disguise
Imagine the melty. Haha...

>>536238798
No, but falcom does outsource certain animated scenes to chinks. You can see in kai that certain mocap scenes differ

Ignore the graphicsfag, he's been begging for bites all day like a starving little girl from Gaza

>>536239479
How do I recommend which is the first game then?

It's delusional to think Shite 1st will perform well when it will not bring any newcomers and the tards who are sucking off Sky are not enough to make it a profitable game

>>536240001
It'll do better in the west than daybreak but I really doubt it'll break 50k curse in Japan where most jrpgs don't really sell that well. The majority of sales come from the west and with the simultaneous release and free demo to promote the game it'll do fine in here.

>>536239983
Just tell that the blue pickup truck that pulls up on Grancel during the epilogue is foreshadowing for something that happened more than 10 games after Sky FC. Haha..

>>536237204
Haha...

Does the car manufacturer Ford exist in the Trails universe? Because Van's driving a Ford.

I have noticed she says rude a lot now. Is that how GungHo localized her catchphrase from Japanese which literally means "what did you say"? I think.

Also, have caught some liberties. That Carl kid says "none of your beeswax."

>>536240001
Well, it has the advantage of being a remake of a beloved game, which also happens to be the ideal entry point vs Falcom releasing games that require knowledge of previous entries. Those two factors make it more appealing to newer audiences. Combined with the prologue demo spreading word of mouth and the simulpub release worldwide/on multiple platforms, I can see it performing better than usual.

It's not going to improve things in the long run, though; most people don't have the patience to sit through all the text that Trails brings. You spend over half an hour doing nothing but reading long winded text, and that shit is boring.

>>536241552
It's gone from 30% dialog/cutscenes to 15% because the gameplay is twice as long now, it doesn't feel like you spend much time in scenes vs the past

>>536242050
Make a new one. 4th option - none.

>>536242050
You are not poll anon
>>536242141
This

sisters we are NOT happy with the accurate translations. give us back the quirky Estelle

>>536242576
The new one also has liberties but sure.

>>536241168
>I have noticed she says rude a lot now. Is that how GungHo localized her catchphrase from Japanese which literally means "what did you say"? I think.

>>536242050
I feel that that the most they'll do is show the backs or silhouettes of Lloyd, Van and Rean during Estelle's speech in the Richard fight at the end

>>536241552
>it has the advantage of being a remake of a beloved game
Sky sold less than Kuro.

>>536243023
Why would they do that
>>536243041
>1st game vs. 11th game
Still more beloved. Good or entertaining games will do that, haha

>>536242050
Rean might get name dropped or someone will mention "a young and promising new 8 leaves student" in SC. Van might get a cameo at the end of the 3rd remake where he meets Renne. Roido idk really he was in Calvard before the events of Zero and he doesn't really have much connection to Sky cast.

oh i know this guy, they've made a movie about him in calvard

>>536242930
I can't read moonrunes, anon-kun. She actually does say rude, is what you're saying?

Estelle's sweaty fucking feet!

>>536245085
he's just like me
if only i had a step sister to fuck

>>536244910
Yea.
He doesn't say "crap" but he makes a "gege" noise which is a fine translation.

>>536244163
>Joshy wanted to kill this cutie

Did anyone check if it is possible to use English translation for the CLE version of YS PROUD NORDICS??

You guys should play Nordics instead Skycrap

>>536246082
dont care about pyss

>>536243617
As wink and nudge to future Trails fans, who are also the audience this remake is appealing to.
I'd rather they not appear at all, or talk about them, though

>>536246082
Even if you can, that would still leave the Nordics content untranslated.

>>536246882
Is that translation old? I really don't remember them when I was playing Tokyo Xanadu ex.

I'm just excited for the return of saltmann

>>536247137
it's still on pc afaik, only switch re-release got a new translation

>>536246882
>pic
I can't believe we will never again see a text such as this in Kiseki ever again, bros....
An end of an era!

>>536230390
Remake sky + crossbell. Rean is where everything went to shit.

Why isn't Gaius's mom a romance option in any of the games?

>>536248815
because only brown men can romance white women in erebonia

>>536248361
Rean's games don't need to be remade because they're perfect as is.

>>536248947
She isn't white.

>>536248361
>Crossbell
Zero and Ao are my favorite games in the series, but I'd only want to see a remake if they put in effort to expand and redesign the city more.
I started getting tired of exploring it after like the 5th time you visit it in CS and Reverie

>>536248361
Fuck Crossbell, it was so wanked in CS3 that I never want to see it again. Zero was great, Ao kinda sucked due to the shitty villains.

After two full years of Crossbell, I just want to see Crossbell again.

Femanons status?

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>536250529
>after like the 5th time you visit it in CS and Reverie
>>536250909
>it was so wanked in CS3

Sounds to me like you guys are blaming Crossbell for Cold Steel's sins.

>>536252167
Mama Tio and the daughteru.

I hope they rewrite the game and make Josette a playable character sooner.

>>536253136
the demo is littered with grammar and spelling errors
people shit on nisa for this but there's more errors in the prologue of sky alone than the entirety of some nisa releases

>>536249024
lol
lmao even

>>536253309
and this is the area that got the most polish haha imagine the later chapters...

>>536253309
They can have one Ys VIII situation, both XSEED and NISA had problems.

>>536253136
Joshua is a manlet lmao

>>536249024
I hope the cold steel remakes have new characters and falcom just acts like nothing is wrong and these characters have always been there

Estelle fucks Joshua asshole with a strap-on cause Joshua's penis is too small to penerate her.

>>536255542
We're going to get the secret avatar of Ishmelga and she's a hot girl with no memories that lusts for Rean?

>>536255736
There's nothing wrong with that.

>>536255896
I didn't say there was.

>>536255736
Wrong
Joshua fucks estelle his with 12 inch penis

>>536253309
>>536255416
Guys I just pulled a screenshot off of Google because I'm at work. You're suppose to be talking about how cute Josette is.

>>536255542
>This is Muss- i mean Mildine... ummm... she was always here see! and she's besties with Alfin and Elise!!!

>>536255542
Anyone else think Class 7 had too many people in it?

>>536256140
I agree, remove Rean, Alisa, Machias and Gauis then you got a better game.

>>536256140
uh yeah its a pretty common complaint or it was before csfags acted like cs never did anything wrong

Anyone else think /fg/ has too many people in it?

>>536256130
Nigga did you seriously pick the least egregious one? Obviously the girl's school is gonna have a bunch of girls that Alfin and Elise hang out with, some of which are part of the nobility. Ash and Juna are the poster kids of retcons.

>>536256130
oh yeah what's gonna happen to this guy?
will he be in the sky remakes too?

>>536256350
We are speaking about CS retcon, those will be Sky and Crossbell respectively

>>536256303
Depends. Do you consider Vankids or Reanspics or Skytrannies or Cuckbells or PYss fans "people"?

>>536232043
You're a faggot, yuri owns

>>536256140
Class 7 doesn't have enough people in it. How the fuck are you gonna make a whole class for like 8 people? They should've been at the very least 20 with only 5-6 playable characters.

>>536256564
Fuck that.
>>536256303
No.
>>536256140
Yes.

>I was all alone, but thankfully that Spriggan from Calvard helped me sneak into Crossbell.
>He's cool i guess.

I still don't understand by Fie is the only old class 7 member that regularly appears even after cold steel games.
I get Towa, Crow and Altina since they're kinda connected to Rean on a more personal level but Fie was just another class 7 member whose intimate interactions were optional unlike the other three?
Not Emma or Alisa get this treatment.
Is it just because she's popular among fans?

>>536228616 (OP)
How's the demo

>>536256943
So good it revived Shizunasis

>>536256816
how did ban-san manage to rizz her?
sure renne mellowed down after meeting estelle, but i need a more detailed flashback on how they met.

>>536256897
>Fie has appeared and been playable in every single game since her introduction

>>536256943
>see umafag
>go to another general
>see another umafag
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
it's alright, i guess. it's misspelling and low quality terrain textures though

>>536256897
Yes, and you could say the same for Altina and Towa.
That's also why Rixia appeared in CS2 and not Elie.

>>536256816
>sneak into Crossbell
Uh, just walk into Crossbell? Tell the CGF you've been separated from your parents if you get caught because then they'll bring you to a police station from which you can easily escape? Dumb bitch is supposed to be some 200 IQ genius btw.

>>536257228
Good guy aura. Really that's it, Renne "felt" his kindness.

Post the biggest retcon.

>>536257561
Van and Renne easily.

Van's existence

>>536257561
kurt, juna and ash

>>536257561
How did Van say no to this?

>>536257561
19999

>>536257561
>This is an underage girl
I ain't no expert but this doesn't really seem realistic.

I want the next mc to be like young mcburn with a obsession on fighting someone to sate his bloodlust, he will also be like 17 or something and he had l going parents but they were also like big battle junkies I want his true ending to be to leave behind all the bonds he made over the course of the story to go after his real goal; a worth opponent

>>536256897
Haha...

>>536258131
wait fuck this is just young Kratos

>>536257561
Van. In reality he never existed in the previous loops and was added after an unknown event which allowed the 5 demon lords to enter Zemuria. Van is literally retcon incarnate.

>>536255974
Based.

>>536258094
I had a girl in my class with boobs like those when she was like 13, 14

>>536259032
same
turns out she was being molested by her step dad when one day she got randomly pulled out of school

>>536257561
imagine how big she'll get once she becomes pregnant...

>>536259591
too big.
literally titty monster
tone it down a bit

titty monsters are based

>>536259032
girls grow faster than boys

Agnes should have been a flat loli

We'll never escape the bad Daybreak combat. It'll also be in the Crossbell remakes. It's never been more over.

>>536259660
low test

>>536258131
That's fine but make it a girl.

Kai combat was great.

love how every argument for why the modern combat is bad is just "waaaah it's not like cold steel"

I'm trans, fuck you

Lloyd was a good protagonist

>>536256412
they'll add him to the flashbacks no doubt

>>536260653
waah you just dont get cold steel, you don't get it is good waaah

Give me 15 minutes alone with Altina PLEASE

My first tails game will be the remake

remake is actually quite challenging on nightmare
it's pretty hard especially against a huge swarm of enemies, so i had to grind a bit to open more slots since magic is pretty powerful in here

Being sexually attracted to children is not normal, seek help

>>536260703
I like Lloyd and Estelle.

Kevin was okay.

I haven't played his games yet but I hope Van is good.

>>536261403
Cool, I hope you enjoy it.

>>536261424
The Milch Road Monster boss took me two tries. Kinda weird how S-Breaks don't allow you to claim a turn bonus but steal it for the next turn. Playing on Hard and I am feeling like it is challenging enough.

Anons, I finished Kai, but why the fuck did half of the scenes from the OP NEVER happen in the game?
- Shizuna in the burning ruins of her village
- Kevin fighting some dragon and jumping around
- Rufus jumping from somewhere with Lapis in his arms
Did my brain just somehow delete half of this slop game that I don't remember? What is going on here? I demand my money back. I was actually looking forward to the epic Kevin scene and Rufus with saving his cumdoll.

I knew about the new localization, but the NPC name changes caught me by surprise (like Armand and Ellie becoming Areum and Aria), were they always named that in the original japanese script?

>>536261970
the last one actually did happen, sorta
but yeah falcom bullshotted a ton of kai

>>536261757
yeah i guess falcom doesn't want to bring back turn bonus steal back, funny enough they brought it back in kuro 2 and then removed again in kai

>>536262153
>the last one actually did happen, sorta
I forgot probably. When was this? Looks like in some sci-fi structure. But I don't remember a dungeon like that. I literally though after that final boss fight I have another dungeon, like in the Sept-terion in space or some shit where the scene happen. Fuck you Falcom!

>>536261970
>- Shizuna in the burning ruins of her village
It's probably related to her connect event, either falcom changed it into her backstory or it'll be relevant in the sequel
>- Kevin fighting some dragon and jumping around
That's related to his fight against Simeon in the tharbad ruins, i think it's just visuals for the OP not need to think too hard.
>- Rufus jumping from somewhere with Lapis in his arms
Hmm looks like the final location in the grim garten, idk why it's there lol.

>>536261970
>false advertisement
wow

https://www.reddit.com/r/Falcom/comments/1mwsv7a/a_brief_comparison_of_the_localizations_of_the/
>the new translation isn't actually more faithful to the original script, it just has ESL prose
haha thats our kondo

>>536263261
Is that good

>>536263261
most of /fg/ will feel right at home and love it then, lol

>>536263261
That's what we knew going in.

>>536263261
still better than Xshieet fanfic translation

>>536265167
That comparison says otherwise. GungHo's actually less accurate in the opening scene.

>>536263261
turns out I have to either side with NISA or with the ESLs
no winning scenario for normal people

glory to the white man, glory to Rean

>>536265412
Rean is black, actually

>>536265323
The likes of XSEED and NISA are a necessary evil. Come home, white man. Eat your jelly filled doughnuts.

Apologize.

>>536265323
With XSNEED you get better dialogue and characterization than anything Falcom's capable of themselves.

>>536266041
kys

We universally hate AInigger here.

That final yell from Van: "Agneees!" Someone at Falcom really likes Space Battleship Yamato it seems, given that Daisuke Ono voices the MC in both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js2-r_KB3xk&t=105s

>>536265831
>>536265957
The devil you know vs the devil you don't.
The "ill-i-jitimat" line by Estelle was really cute and "Oh Divine Aidios" was also another favorite I was sad to see gone, and I have yet to finish the demo but I can say I still see the glimpses of the cute, dumb genki tomboy that made me fall in love with this series regardless of translation choice. Although I cannot lie, Xsneed has the edge for now.

>>536266441
they also referenced jojo. van ora'd the rat in the final fight
https://youtu.be/uACkLKcUgHE?t=844

who is the biggest slut of kiseki?

Both gungho and xseed loc are fine, people who say gungho sucks are just saying it through nostalgia rose tinted glasses, also applies to ESL faggots, just play it in Spanish retard or whatever

>>536266839
ure mom

>>536266839
Musse

>>536267090
i want to see 20's slut agnes

>>536243041
FC sold more, are you a retarded zoomie?

>>536258746
She cute.

Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife

I reject your cheap tricks and illusions

>>536261403
Cute Atri

i don't care what anyone says the remake is pure kino

>>536270394
Stop jobbing, Gouran.

Is there a reason to play the remake of FC over the original?

remake is nice and all, but i still can't get used to the new japanese voices... i really hope someone's mods the evo voices for the remake

>>536274756
Well remake does feel different and it's like you're playing from a different perspective. You'll might get nitpicky like me and compare every detail to the original and truth be told original is still better, but remake isn't bad either it's just less soulful.

>>536274756
the original is clunky and dated, unc

i wish tita was in the demo

>>536275164
why isn't she named Flata?

>>536255542
Cold Steel Royale
>>536256140
Add Tita to new class 7

>>536256897
Popularity. That's pretty much it.

>>536275610
I feel like that was the plan at some point. Rean even has her measurements in a guidebook.

I feel that having only FC as the remake could actually hurt future fans, since transitioning from the remake to SC might feel jarring. Plus new fans will have to wait 2-3 years for the SC remake.

>>536275840
Well, they better do it in the remakes

>>536275852
>Plus new fans will have to wait 2-3 years for the SC remake.
Waiting for a new JRPG is very common. They'll survive. They just need to keep this up for the remakes.

>>536261970
That's all on the cutting room floor. They sabotaged it for Sky 1st.

>>536276646
mommy

>>536274756
The remake is actually a sequel to Kai no Kiseki anon. There is no way Falcom would not do it after how Kai ended. You have to play ALL the games in release order.

>>536276646
Creampieing her rn

>>536276953
>sequel to Kai no Kiseki
Thats a great way to piss off everyone even more than they did with Kai.

Remember when Kondo said that certain elements from later games would be integrated into Sky 1st to maintain consistency? Well, at least one of those elements is already quite prominent.

>>536277261
I don't get it.

>>536276730
After how little new content the game had and how many reused assets there's no way Falcom did not delegate 90% of their resources to the remake. Fuck the remake. That's alone reason why I will pirate it. Fuck you Kondom. Kai was supposed to be amazing, not the slop we got.

>>536276231
The problem is that Falcom are really good at making cliffhanger endings that make you want to play the next game immediately, with FC being one of the strongest. If this was like Kai people could wait for the next game, but SC already exists. And given the gameplay downgrades + not being able to carry over their First saves it means a lot of people will be unhappy. Especially if they try SC Nightmare without the 100% bonuses as I'm pretty sure it's almost impossible without the Luck Quartz.

>>536277371
Ass

>>536277625
at least I truly see

>>536277371
>>536277625
Specifically, Estelle's well toned tomboy glutes.

>>536277185
Probably they make it subtle enough that newfags don't notice that this is the 20000th cycle, whereas OG FC is the 19999th. Fans will notice tbe discrepancies. Or the go all out like FFVII R. Subtle or drastic, But this is 100% the case.

>>536277847
Those leggings are such a massive turn off. Mods can't come soon enough. SC costume mods with pantsu shots would be cool.

>>536278114
philistine

>>536277904
Wrong. Not happening

>>536277459
Not having more employees fucked Kai over. They were forced to choose between projects.

>hating on spats
Boo this man!

There's a secret cave on Elize highway with shit ton of monsters to farm

>>536279027
Also easy early attack 2 quartz reward

>>536278874
her farts must be revolting

>>536277459
Prioritize Nordics over Kuro 2, which derailed Kuro 1's momentun. Prioritize Sky Remake over Kai which resulted in Kai being filled with filler like garten and fanservice recurring characters.

>>536281359
Ys games are an event that only happen once every few years. It needed to be prioritised.

It's never Calvard's fault

He's gone from demanding all of Trails stop and focus entirely on the ASO to now demanding all of Falcom stop and focus entirely on the ASO
What's next? Should the entire video game industry get together to exclusively flesh out the ASO so you can reference their canonical shitting habits?

Never forgive Calvard

>>536281853
Too bad Ys X sucked ass and kept the Kisekification of the franchise moving forward.

>>536282056
Correct. It's falcom's fault

>>536282304
at least proud chuds flopped hard

big boobies

>>536281359
This means they'll do it again.

>>536282304
Ys X was a step in the right direction after IX. They just need to ditch the duo system, but they're probably afraid of the idea of giving Adol a good sized health pool and having to balance the damage values of enemies more.

Cute and canon

>>536283007
Damn you're getting desperate

>>536283007
i think they'll actually hit it off just nice
joshy might kill him in his sleep for adding renne to his harem tho

>>536283007
gross

>>536278874
What are they going to do with this animation in SC?

>>536283007
need fanfic anon to write about Van getting adopted instead of Joshua

>>536282763
I'm sure dropping the level design/zone variety and focusing on all the worst shit from VIII/IX instead of their strongest points was a step in the right direction. Most of the bosses were tactically null and the enemy variety is non-existent; there are about 10 of them for the entire game while the first Ys had over 40.

Love you /fg/ you are my only true constant in this cruel world
I hope you have a nice weekend, I'll always be in your corner rooting for you

>>536283007
I don't think you'd want to stick your dick in there, Vanbro. Who knows what STD you'd catch after the protagonists all ran trains on her?

>>536283623
She isn't coming back.

>>536283783
no....

>>536283723
Estelle is pure

>>536283814
Rufus doesn't deserve to be in any MC discussion that nigga only has 1/3rd of a game

>>536283638
I can appreciate a consistently designed world instead of the zones from older Ys games where it feels like you're just a scene transition away from going to a completely different biome. The bosses were also more involved than most party Ys bosses, though they suffer from it being very hard to have both Adol and Karja die. It managed to bring back a sense of exploration that IX lost.

>>536283985
>>536284115
Maybe if you people didn't stalk her over in /m/ and start bitching about dykes there she would have been more willing to return.

Balduq has more exploration than slowly sailing to yet another copypasted island with copypasted viking ruins

>>536284212
A pure girl doesn't try and seduce Tita like she did in the hot springs in Sky. And don't get me started on what she'll do for you if you give her a new pair of stregas.

>>536284370
wasn't me thoughbeit

>>536284410
honestly balduq looked like shit, but i agree that it's still better than ys x islands

>>536284410
Balduq has 0 exploration. 0 adventure. Replace Adol and Dogi with Lloyd and Rixia and you could just make Ys IX a Crossbell game.

100% status?

>>536284670
>I haven't played the game
Should've just said so

>>536284248
It just felt like a lazier retreat of VIII with none of the aspects that made it actually good/special. The world is barely designed consistently since they killed the overworld in favor of the crappy ship going to tiny, separated islands lacking in visuals/location variety and boring to explore; a green island, a green island with rain, a green island with fog, an island just like the previous one, but with new enemies... They couldn't even bother to make new models for each weapon.

>>536284719
Spreading

Fufu

>>536284749
It has a couple of hidden rooms, but on the whole, Balduq is pretty lame. There's no sense of adventure, you're just wishing for the game to end so you stop seeing a sea of grey. Then outside Balduq is just empty fields and what feels like places that were supposed to mean more but got cut out of the story. And the entire time you're forced to fill the Nox meter to progress like it's some shitty Just Cause game.

discovering the ruins of ancient civilisations just hits like crack every single time
I'll never get tired of Ys due to this simple fact, while the more Trails moves away from this the more boring it becomes
I don't care about Calvard, really don't

>>536277625
Judith is so hot...

>>536285338
sounds like you didn't give the game a fair chance and your sour experience is clouding your words, dunnu why you would continue to play something that makes you wish the game would end

>>536285626
I've given Ys IX more than a fair chance, I've played it to completion twice. It's still a Ys game, so it's not terrible but it's really not very good. Balduq is just really a shadow of what it could be. The districts start to blend in with one another after the Shantytown.

>>536283603
If they censor her outfit from SC by putting leggings under her skirt like some retard, I will stop playing Falcom games. No matter how shit their games got, at least you could see pantsu as unapologetically as possible. You want to see a 14 year old girl's cute pantsu? Press R1 and run. Enjoy (Jolda was the only thing that kept me playing Kai btw.). If they take that away, there is literally no value in Falcom games anymore.
In short: if you censor Estelle's outfit in SC remake you lost me as a customer Kondom

>>536287039
her panties will be censored bro, you might as well stop playing right now

Does anyone have a list of all the Kiseki characters who were canonically raped as children?

>>536287039
mondblut...

>>536287020
Why does she wear a mask but no pants?

>>536287020
I can't look at the older games the same again after the demo.

>>536287686
All the soul has been sucked out of kiseki to give maximum oversoul to sky 1st

>>536287232
It's a 50/50 chance they give her another Craft animation. I forgot, how did her SC animation look? Did we see chibi sprite micro pantsu or did they use a different animation from FC. Anyway, I still have hope. I mean in Kai you could see Jolda, Feri and Altina flash you their pantsu just by sprinting. Nonstop pantsu view. So them censoring SC would mean a drastic change to censorship at Falcom. Thats why SC will be the ultimate test whether Falcom remains who they are or whether they bend the knee.

>>536288584
*Not Feri, I meant Fie.

>>536288368
i kneel....

>>536266041
>not Elie
>not Elaine

nadia rizz

>>536288879
fufu...

Damn, that was the laziest final dungeon design in any Kiseki. You can really see how the devs just wanted to be done with the game. And here I was hoping the final dungeon would be in space. At this point I should have know better to not have any expectations when it comes to Kai slop, but that one stung. I was so fucking thinking we go to space. I hate you Kondom. I blame fucking Sky remake.

>>536289483
>does it again

>>536289483
>And here I was hoping the final dungeon would be in space
how? they're literally limited by the plot since kai feels like a prologue if anything. all final kiseki dungeons aren't good only the dungeon themes are good

>>536288879
Why rat? I still don't get it. If he didn't do it we would have a normal reset instead of the hacked one by Super Agnes (whatever she did). Before I beat the game I thought he betrays everyone for nefarius reasons, but he did nothing wrong. He secretly helped preparing a failsafe in case the President's plan fails. There are no villains here. Just heroes.

>>536288584
>So them censoring SC would mean a drastic change to censorship at Falcom.
I don't think it would be that significant either way.

>kuso has dogshit gameplay
>people shit on it for 4 years
>then jeets in the sky has the same exact system and /fg/ suddenly loves it
sausage steve

>>536290034
I thought we get teleported into the Sept-Terrion. And that inside would be te final dungeon where we face Agnes decision. The ending was so fucking lazy.

>>536290556
The Kuro combat and huge white boxes are the only issues with the remake.

>>536290596
Well wait till kai 2. The whole ending of kai makes everyone aside from Agnes and Emilia irrelevant. The basically made the whole game as a big dead end that needs to be fixed

>>536290417
It would. It's a mentality thing not only do Falcom give a damn about censorship, the have so e serious pantsu fans in the team. No pantsu means no Falcom

>>536290596
>>536289483
I thought the same. It was so lazy, and generic. Was just a miltary base, didn't even notice it was the final dungeon until the game ended. Granted the set pieces and the final fight was cool though, but that was it

While it's great to have Bestelle back, it's also really refreshing to be playing as a Bracer again. The games are structured for a character who's an adventurer-for-hire, and the series has been in serious denial about this for ages. It's fuckin' nice to play as Estelle again because being a JRPG protagonist is her actual job.

Enjoy.

>>536291591
Bracers are pretty boring because they have to be goody two shoes bound by bracer laws. All of the other spins did more with it.

>>536291138
I liked that they introduced enemies that have the same mechanic as zolga where they can break you from the turn based.
As for the dungeon design idk how can they actually improve a military base design. Would be cool if it was some ancient ruins repurposed for a secret military base but oh well

Can someone explain to me what tbe fuck happened in Creil when Emilia **was about to crash into Kevin and friends but suddenly became a stone statue? Die Hamilton petrify her and stop her from crashing into them?** I don't get what happened there.

>>536291738
I miss the sovl...

>>536291738
Why is Gungho woke?

>>536291796
Nah, the Guild functionally does whatever the fuck they want. They just play nice for the sake of it, but whenever they're part of the plot, they invariably go "Fuck politics. Greater good time.".

>>536291738
They censored the boys line in the Japanese. Oh fuck. Now Falcom are doing the same shit. It's over.

>>536292262
Only for the most lawful good actions unless they're an antagonist. Bracers are just really boring.

>>536292173
>Gungho
Anon, I...

>>536292032
Didn't Hamilton hack into the time sept-terrion and brought all these remnants to confuse the current loop? I think she might have done the same with Emilia's mecha basically returning to its original state or some shit. Honestly Calvard is probably the most convoluted arc so far, even erebonia was more straightforward.

>>536292032
she turned into the statues in Erebonia Nord Highlands..

>>536291738
Not GungHo's fault. The Japanese removed the mention of boys and grls. They rewrote the script due to modern sensitivities. I feared this might happen.

>>536292393
You just want to be a bad guy.

>>536290853
The combat is at least 50% of the game, so it's a major issue.

>its falcoms fault that nisa is releasing games slow
>its falcoms fault that gunghos script is shit
ive heard it all here now

>>536287039
>WAAAAAH I WON'T BUY IF I CAN'T SEE UNDERAGE PANTIES
Peak incel post.

>>536293182
Bracers are the Ready Salted of Kiseki. They aren't bad, but it's hard to pick them when I could go for more interesting flavors of bracer.

>>536293348
Go back to r/falcom femoid.

>>536291738
this is FF7R but for kiseki

You're boring. I like getting paid to be the good guy.

But you can do that while being a squad of cops, or by going on field studies to places/travelling on your airship.

>>536293646
*smooch* ilu ester

>>536291738
I hope the game flops and Falcom go bankrupt. At this point I seriously believe that Kato was the one who protected the company to not go all out on westoid sensibilities. Now that he passed away Falcom is done for. It was nice while it lasted.

>>536293302
I've seen people blame both CLE and NISA for Falcom rereleasing Ys X as Proud Nordic so that's not even the most retarded shit that's been posted here.

>Kondo wants his staff to learn from sky remake and revaluate the meaning of pacing and fun going forward
Haha...

Fie is in the files for Sky 1st

>>536294487
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

ITS HAPPENING

>>536294487
I don't believe you, but I would not at all object to a Fie cameo.

>>536294487
>character ID 65535
it's so over...

>>536294487
>we will meet loli jaeger fie and her crew
KINO KINO RETCON!!!!!!

>>536291738
Same shit as Persona 3 Reloaded. Shit gets censored during development. Like P3R I'll skip Sky 1st. Saves me money and time. Still... Fuck you Kondom. Pissing on your legacy like this.

Remember:
Buy: GungHo
Pirate: NISA

Brazilians BTFO...

>>536294912
>supporting falcom
lolno, every game is a pirate if they're worth the time

>>536294912
I don't buy censored remakes. Same reason I skipped P3R.

>>536295153
but you will buy censored original releases?

>new sidequest where you fight babby Fie while she's still a Zephyr member
See, this is the kind of blatant retcon I can get on board with. Probably bullshit though, sadly.

I buy games I like. That includes P3R. Trails 1st. Clair Obscur.

>>536295229
Nope.

>>536295239
Theyll 100% make an offhand comment about playing with Ash when talking about Hamel
KINO

>>536295279
so you pirate first? good job xir

>>536295279
I buy games I like or want to play if the devs don't have a history of exploitative DLC and other business practices.

>>536295427
>Oh yeah wasn't there some kid we used to play with, Loewe?
Haha...

>>536291738
Anon, post more of that shit. And nice find.

>>536294487
FieGODS can't be beaten....

>>536295427
>>536295534
I wouldn't even hate that, because Ash was already a bullshit retcon. Might as well commit to the bit and have him make sense this time around.

>>536290252
Even if it's justifiable, he still betrayed Gramheart since Renè enabled the exact thing he was trying to avoid, and he kicked the shit out of Van and Elaine as well. Also, there's no chance he doesn't have more schemes planned for the next game.

>>536295997
>>Also, there's no chance he doesn't have more schemes planned for the next game.
>Fufu... my past self saw the reset happening... not even Cao Lee is on my level *adjusts glasses*

>>536295943
>Ash was already a bullshit retcon
What if he was no retcon but merely part of that cycle CSIV took place in. What if Sky OG is cycle 19998 and CSIV is cycle 19999?

>>536296230
>what if

>>536296230
>what if *orbal asspull*

Okay but real talk. Why are bracer women so fucking FINE tho?

*kills nihon falcom*

>>536294487
Hilarious if true. This would cement Fie as being in the most games in the series.

>>536295997
>he kicked the shit out of Van and Elaine as well.
If that's enough to make you a villain, every fucking Kiseki character is one. How many friends have you fought in the series just for the fuck of it?
>still betrayed Gramheart
Betrayal requires ruining his plans. He did nothing the like. He just hid his failsafe plan. Probably because Gramheart would oppose it because it's about Agnes. So Kinkaid had no choice. I see no wrong or unmoral here.

>>536296230
... Shit like this is why I'm semi-convinced that the time loop thing is just a straight up series reboot. Like at some point, Kondo and friends realized "Holy shit, this is fucking stupid." And decided to start over.

Will Osborne pull out his demon mech in Sky 3rd Chapter

>>536294487
>Fie slowly being retconned into the protagonist of Kiseki
Kondo's master plan revealed...

Another thing about the ending of Kai that's dumb: why is everyone trying to prevent Agnes doing tne shit few seconds before the reset? Like shit gets reset anyway. Why not give it a shot, whatever her plan is.

>>536297023
>straight up series reboot.
That's a bad idea. Just have two timelines. The OG one and the Remake one.

>people doompost about CS stuff getting retconned into Sky
>it's possible that Fie is in it, but nobody minds because people actually like Fie
Welp.

>>536297224
She won....
>>536297352
Did everyone show up to the skype call?

>>536256140
Remove all the males except rean, remove crowhomo too

>>536297610
unironically better gras textures than sky remake.

It’s so weird seeing so much defense for xseed script lately. I really didn’t know it was that loved. I knew people liked the game and script but dang there is actual toxicity over the discussions of gungho not following xseed script. I genuinely think both translations are fine Estelle is still a genki girl. Daybreak 1 and 2 should be the more talked about localizations for debate

>>536297610
Why is there a gap between her legs and her socks?

>>536297980
#girlboss

>>536298278
What’s that?

>>536298259
clipping

>>536291738
It will be interesting to make an entire comparison of the JP scripts once the game is out, seeng how much was censored. Since we have trailsinthedatabase it should be easy to do so programmatically.

>>536297980
At this point it's people who were little kids when Sky came out and who grew up with the series so they're attached to it and defensive of it like millennials are of Pokemon.

>>536297980
xsneed script is half the reason shy was popular back then

I'm so happy there's no flatshits in ban-san's harem

did rocksmith ally with the noble faction ?

>>536298492
I mean maybe I’m biased towards gungho script because I like the more grounded localizations but even xseed were fine too. Like I play with jp voice and there was still flavor in gungho text. I just don’t understand why people are pissed because Estelle didn’t ask the present is a boy thing. People knew from the start gungho was changing script to be more faithful

I'm so sad there's no flatGODDESSES in ban-san's harem....

>>536298663
That’s true idk I would assume people would like her cuz of her character arc. Even Japan likes her too and they didn’t get xseeds embellishments

>>536298715
>no flatties
>it's the worst arc

Update the list. Fie's on it now.

>>536298972
Oh yea. We had no bond events. Guess that's gone until the Azure remake.

>>536298924
Feri and Jolda?

>>536297980
>I really didn’t know it was that loved
Are you blind or have you never been part of the western falcom community?

Is Fie now going to be another loli Estelle molested? Or will Estelle end up part of Fie's harem?

who

>>536299182
I knew it was loved but not loved enough to literally criticize the shit out of gungho for not following those lines like present is a boy. I didn’t think it was loved enough to warrant xseed sky purists to have so much hate for not sticking with it. They were told the localization was going to be more faithful yet they were not prepared to face it

>>536297224
>>536297604
>>536297610
fie's evasion was so high she dodged agnes' reset

Fie is literally just a discount altina

Why won't people just make an XSEED injection patch for the sky demake? Now that we know even the Japanese script is censored it would also remove the JP script censorship. Two birds, one stone.

>>536299204
Jaegers aren't allowed in Liberl THOUGH

Be nice to your mother Altina

Imagine the smell of Estelle's sweaty, unwashed spats *snifffffffffff*

>>536299529
In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter all that much. If they had kept the xseed localization, the game would've been undeniably the champion of all remakes of classic games. It's still a gold standard of remakes, but it's not 10/10 perfect like it could've been.

>>536299997
>Why won't people just make an XSEED injection patch for the sky demake?
Because it's not 1:1? There are going to be expansions and possibly also cuts to the script and some large changes. You can't possibly believe it's a copy and paste and done job, right? I do expect a mod to pop up where it applies where possible but it would need some serious playtesting to get it up to snuff.

>>536301003
Thing is I would prefer if it just undoes the chnages, like te censorship posted earlier. For the additions they can just keep the GungHo shit. First thing would be extracting the script and then compare both Japanese scripts programmatically for changes. There are online tools for this which use clever algorithms. I use them for my VN MTL projects. Overall it will be some work, but nothing impossible. You don't have to compare shit manually.

Just realized I've never used high speed mode once yet.

honestly I prefer gungho localization for sky over xseed they dont try to act like they are writers and inserting their own thing. Daybreak 2 localization just felt like NISA used it for a comedy sketch.

>>536301764
That is still a bit of work. If you want to go for it, by all means, but you implied it would be a walk in the park and easy to do when I am saying all signs are saying you need to put in a good amount of elbow grease to probably get it going.

wtf estelle's morale craft has two animations. That's amazing

>>536302882
I still can't believe Falcom went the extra effort for it. They'll stop being an indie developer at this point.

>>536302605
I use this site (https://text-compare.com/) to compare chunks (3-4k of lines) of japanese VN scripts since it uses a surprisingly complex algorithm. Finding the differences is actually a piece of cake. Problem will be the file structure and if the script is encrypted.

>>536303619
I hope every craft has that. Shit i...i i'm having FUN!!!!!

>>536303619
>Doesn't know what indie developer means

>>536294487
>Fie is playable on Sky the 1st
>playable for 9 game straight
Haha... The true shadow queen and protag of Kiseki, Fie!

>>536305328
she's too powerful....

Up oh

>>536305395
this fight was fucking hard on nightmare fight, proably the hardest fight imo

>>536294487
this is fake right

>>536308801
Haha...

>>536308801
Haha...

>>536308801
maybe but i dont know the know-how to dispute it... haha...

New Kondo comments
https://x.com/GungHo_America/status/1958893593566830833?t=PYUJCcRiUP-F1_14L0z49w&s=19

>>536311263
I've seen enough

GUNGHO

KILL NISA AND TAKE KAI 2 AWAY FROM THEM

>>536311263
>While working on this remake, we realized that kind of simplicity is something we've forgotten in our recent work

>>536311598
He’s awoken. Does that mean no grim garten for Kai 2?

>>536312536
I think it means more remakes. Which is not good news for Calvard

>>536312536
Playing Sky 1st demo made me realize how much marchen and grim garten fucked up the pacing for Kuro 2 and Kai. People will say harem fucked the franchise or lack of deaths but no the side dungeons are the worse part of kiseki

>>536312758
Nah Kai 2 will be 2026 falcom said that they were in planning phase months ago which means they can begin development soon

>>536313332
They already threw two out of 3 games under the bus for other games. I don't see why they wouldn't do it again. Especially if Sky 1st does well. And we know from Kai that more time doesn't equal a better game.

Hold on a sec, gays. Are they going to release SC remake or Kai 2 next year? If they don't release SC, people who started with FC remake are gigacucked.

>>536313834
theyre not releasing sc next year and never planned to

>>536314032
>have to wait at LEAST 2 years to resolve the cliffhanger
Haha...

>>536299997
>>536301764
XSEED's scripts are full of so much bullshit you'd be far better off using the new Gungho script as a base if you want to go through making changes for accuracy.

>>536313834
Probably 2027 for SC. Xanadu is probably next year.

Original and Remake intro comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSf5IwPvhbk

They /have/ to throw the xanadu bwos a bone here. Kyoto Xanadu next year trust
>

>>536313834
just like the people who bought Kai last/this year are getting cucked if SC is releasing... haha..
Falcom? Cuckcom..

>can't steal AT bonuses with S-Breaks
Fuck....

>>536314512
WHY the fuck do they keep taking this away
they even brought it back for kuro 2 just to take it away again

Falcom General mindbroke me. I type "haha..." unironically at times now.

>>536314926
Well stop it. Gungho removed all the Haha's.

>>536314512
S crafts actually can steal turn bonus from who your hitting in Sky the first it’s in the ability description of the s craft for Estelle and Joshua

>>536314215
Tier list for localization
S: zero,azure,cs3,cs4, sky 3
A: sky sc, sky fc , cs1,, cs2
D: reverie, daybreak 1, daybreak 2

Please correct me if I’m wrong or give your opinions

>>536315823
>S: zero

>beat the monster chest the first time I tried it
Haha... I sure have grown over the last 20 years

>>536316307
overall zero and azure are decent and doesnt do stuff like that often. Daybreak 1 and 2 has many many more rewrites. but yes the bruh moment line is bad and nisas replacement is better but not ideal either

>>536294487
Fiedev is real

loli estelle is pretty cute when she's flattened

>>536294487
well you have falcord panicking

>>536320093
dude if altina wasnt in some test tube or something for her canon, they would have put her in sky the first instead of fie lol. but for fie it can work because of zephyr. Wait can someone remind when did zephyr disband in fies backstory she told to her classmates in heimdallr?

If Zephyr shows up, there's a non-zero chance Sara will show up too

>hebe sara
kino...

>>536320662
>zephyr
But aren't those groups banned in Liberl?

>>536320805
been a while since I played sky Im not sure. If its true then I wonder how falcom will implement her.

>>536320662
sky 1 takes place 1202 and rutger and baldur died in 1203

I don't know what the FUCK is up with how these menus cause FPS drops and other weird issues but DXVK to the rescue once again.

>>536294487
it is real, there are three versions of fie in the sky name table. they're all using kuro fie's character model. this is probably something they used to debug npcs at the start of development, since it's next to other test characters

>>536322508
also chr0006 right below her is bergard from kuro

so what you're saying is, we can mod fie into the game using the in-game models like proto-alisa?

>>536294487
>we're getting Fie in every single game, even before erebonia arc
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>536323293
You keep complaining and we're adding her to Crossbell and even Nayuta too.

>>536323293
>>536323401
I'm very happy about this.

Kiseki?
More like, Fieseki.

CASSANDRA LEE MORRIS BE EATIN

>>536323689
She's the mascot of Kiseki now. Mishy WHO?!

She's even surpassed Towa... surpassed Renne... she is growing stronger!

>>536323845
>Towa
not until she appears in other falcom games

>>536323931
White Cat... forgotten...

>>536323845
>>536323931
Fie vs Towa.....vghhh.....

they will probably just have fie do some spy work or some shit or getting info on another corp or bodyguard

Fie is gonna be at Jenis

just finished the demo
dunno what the consensus is here but this is the first remake i've played that feels like it still has soul

>>536296664
What was that Bracer's name in Kuro with the fat ass

>>536324942
It was so soulful it made even Kondo ask where Falcom went wrong

>>536325037
Don't they all share the same model? Wouldn't it be all of them?

>>536324942
The consensus is that the demo is so good that people are baffled that the same company that made the last few games made this remake as well. Also >>536325159

>>536325037
Regina? She is generic model. I remember the bracer in Basel looks like her.

>>536325159
Really?

>>536325037
Fie

>can do Brave Attacks without tying a link of ARCUS or S.C.L.M.
>can do Command Battles without needing to deploy a Shard (very important as enemies in Kuro can break Shard and force you into action battles)
What the fuck are they putting in Liberlian water?

>>536325397
SIR THIS IS A BLUE BOARD
YOU CAN'T POST FIE'S BARE ASS LIKE THAT

>>536322736
Why would he be called Bergard at this point though?

>>536325310
nta but yes. See:
>>536311263
>>536311526
>>536311598

>>536325310
see>>536311263

>>536325310
Yep >>536311263

canonically speaking, which girl would be the smelliest

The neets

>Overdrive
No fucking way, nigger just used a boost

>>536294487
that's a different Fie retard

demo done (i spent nearly twice as long as i usually do in the first chapter lol)
remake good
looking forward to full game even more now

I'm a cuck

>>536328089
cel shading is too good man

Even if she’s just a placeholder asset, I hope she sticks around in the files for Sky 2nd, and 3rd so she can technically continue her perfect streak of being in literally every Kiseki game

wait is fie actually in the demo?

>>536328419
No. She's apparently in the files

I hope it's actually fake news. I don't want to see an unneeded cameo.

>I played too much of Umamusu
>Played the demo
>Can't unsee Daiwa from Estelle all the time
>Estelle walks out of the town
>She even tortures me with "Harikitte Ikou"
Make it stop.

>>536328286
the port runs smoothly, the additional bells and whistles of the combat makes it even more fun, shit even just having shining poms back brought a smile to my face (I ended up killing like 15 of them and nearly had all Estelle's slots open before Perzel farm lol)

not sure if I should have turned it up to nightmare instead of hard or not, but overall just really looking forward to the full game now

>>536328929
>(I ended up killing like 15 of them and nearly had all Estelle's slots open before Perzel farm lol)
ZAMN. I was just exploring. Felt pretty good.

>>536329062
Upping Estelle's accuracy with Hit quartz and Accessories, Morale-boosting, follow-ups, and S-Crafts really make the grind easy even on Hard

>>536328360
can't wait for Fie in crossbell remakes (somehow)

>>536329313
At this point, Fie being the Grand Master (True) isn't even a meme anymore.

>>536329313
I hope they make Rixia's Rixias even bigger in crossbell remakes

>>536301548
Did Cassius marry a 14 year old?

>Zero remake includes a scene of Sara and Fie heading into Erebonia
>Azure remake includes a scene of Class VII
>Nayuta remake includes new post-game Fie scenario

>>536311263
>Kondo actually admit that he tried to cater the wrong audience
Never thought I would see the day this ever happen to him of all people, but here we are.

>>536329582
Elie too. Sara and Emma as well.

>>536296741
Nooo! She can't keep getting away with it!!

>>536329669
>Zero remake includes a scene of Sara and Fie heading into Erebonia
They are being escorted by Van in his truck.

>>536328089
>>536328929
I thought you were a CS-only?

>>536329680
Admitting you fucked up is the first step to fixing things.

>>536329680
Which audience would that be in this case?

>>536330169
weebs to ironic weebs

>>536329903
Sky FC was my first Trails game. Just because I like CS doesn't mean I don't still like the Sky games too. I've been looking forward to the remake for a while and the demo just cemented it.

Anyway, also love the little notes on the Quest details in the Bracer Notebook after you complete them. They're right above the Status box, above the Bracer Emblem stamp.

Rean could've had this in CS2 if he wasn't such a faggot.

>>536330169
Westerners/foreigners.

>>536330392
>Anyway, also love the little notes on the Quest details in the Bracer Notebook after you complete them. They're right above the Status box, above the Bracer Emblem stamp.
HOLY SOUL

>>536330392
Wtf I never saw that.....kino....

NISA L-count status?

>>536330896
>Delay Kai
>Gamekeycard for Kai
>$10 more expensive than full on cart Switch 1 cart for some reason
>Panic announce Proud Nordics
>Will most likely be another GKC
>Also more expensive


GUNGCHAD
>1 dollar upgrade

NISA STATUS = LOSING KAI 2

>>536330896
You know it be funny if falcom goes with gungho for horizon 2. Then again it’s less likely they will probably keep NISA for horizon 2 and just have gungho do Sky the second

>>536331152
Imagine the behind the scenes drama
There was a lot of drama when NISA went and stole CS3 from XSEED, I expect the same here

Would also depend on Gungho I guess, if they even want to touch the series outside the remakes

Gungho would be stupid to take on the main series. It's a mess rn. Better to stick with the remakes. Especially if they go beyond 3rd.

>>536313332
Kondo said in the kai visual collection interview that the sequel to kai is being developed in parallel with the remake. Once remake goes gold they'll relocate all the resources on kai 2.
They always split the team before the development and according to Kondom remake was being done mostly by the new staff and since the script for remake isn't necessary Takeiri and others were busy with Kai 2.

>>536311263
Man, this make it sounds like it's actually going to be Kondo's/Falcom's redemption arc.
Am I allowed to believe now or am I jumping the gun too fast?

>>536331986
Perfect then no reason it’s not 2026. That’s good. Calvard arc should end before sky the second and Xanadu come

>>536332561
wait for Kai 2 bro... then we can believe...

>>536332561
I mean I don’t have a problem with modern falcom unlike this general. I think calvard arc is good. It’s just grim garten fucked up the pacing. All they have to do is get rid of the extra dungeon and the story would flow more. Imagine in this sky the first demo of we had to go to a separate alternate reality dungeon it would fuck the pacing

>>536332648
2 games are year remember, wonder what the July game would be

>>536332561
I'll wait for the actual game to come out first before I begin putting my faith on them.

>>536332745
Imma be honest with you I don’t think falcom will release two full games in 2026. I don’t believe they have the manpower yet. Maybe 2027 or 2028 but for now they struggle to get one game out they shouldn’t be going for two

>>536332652
i think that game is a lost cause

>>536332561
>Am I allowed to believe now
The game isn't out yet but the demo has honestly shocked me.

Plans for the future will be:
Kai 2
Tokyo Xanadu 2
Sky 2nd
Ys V Remake
Finale for Calvard arc + Van's story with 100+ playable characters
Ys XI in Romun Empire, takes place a year after IX

>>536333534
>Kai 2
>Finale for Calvard arc
>implying Kai 2 isn't the end
That will kill the arc if it isn't dead already.

>>536333534
>Romun Empire
We're not getting a Romn game yet.

The arc after Calvard will be awesome by merit of not being Kai.

The arc after Rean will be awesome by merit of not having Rean in them

- Anon, 4 years ago, before the eve of Kuro No Kiseki

>>536334471
kinda wild things went so horribly wrong afterwards. feels like everyone tempted the GM fate.

>>536333880
Kai 2 will be Van and everyone redoing everything up to the end of Kai, which will then lead into Van's final episode. Wordplay means that they meant the timeline would only continue in Van's final episode to get past Kai, not the story.

>>536334471
Kuro started off really great though >>536232487
It's just that Falcom went senile after that and made Kuro 2 and Kai instead.

>>536332835
same, they struggled with ys x and juggling the development between kiseki a few years back, sure they've build-up more assets and have a better grip on their engine, but i think next year is gonna be kai 2 only, with 2027 potentially having both tx 2 and sky sc remake

>female MC
>make it look like Sky 1st
>trilogy
That's all we need.

Reminder that if he had listened to IshmelRean, we could have avoided Kai's existence altogether.

>>536334618
Yea, but no one bought it. They panicked after that. We (or rather they) just gotta figure why that happened. Until then, the main series is fucked.

>>536334618
>Kuro started off really great though
In the grand scheme, nothing happened in Kuro 1. It's a filler game.

>>536334654
>>make it look like Sky 1st
Too late, the technology advanced 50 years in like 5 years.
>>trilogy
Fuck that. Trilogies are too formulaic, Crossbell was fine as a duology.

>>536334757
<>...

>>536334812
It didn't sell but it was also undercooked. No minigames, no fishing, all that jazz.

What did Falcom do? In the first 10 minutes Falcom made SURE to tell people kuro 2 had minigames and fishing, which was funny imo lmao

>>536334609
I already posted it, but i think this route menu reflects a giant timeline chart from kuro 2. Basically only Van's route is curved and has no clear stopgap which means we are gonna have to fix the timeline so we'll go back at the start of Van route 1. Whether Van is gonna be a solo MC again idk.

>>536334757
If he had listened to Ishmelga Rean, it would burden everyone with the knowledge of the future and the future would not be able to be changed. Everyone would be a slave to what was going to happen, just like what happened with the Black Records.

>>536334757
it's an inside job.
someone paid him to act like a retard

>>536334757
>causes more shit to happen then most guys in the game
I kneel.....
>>536334838
>he technology advanced 50 years in like 5 years.
Don't care. Or go to some poorfag region.
>duology
That's fine too.

>>536334757
>>536334959
>Timeloop? Fufu, it's just more barriers for me to break.

>>536334917
They keep taking away features. It's dumb.

>>536335085
The minigames from Kuro 2 are in Kuro 1's files, they just didn't have enough time.

>>536335273
Where is my VR mode and Pom Pom Party THOUGH

>>536334471
Nobody said this.

CS4 makes me wanna kill myself.
Will I miss anything important if I skip over to kuro?

>>536335085
you mean like mini-games? kuro 1 was more or less a blank state, it's their first game on the new engine so basically almost everything in kuro 1 was build from the ground up. kuro 1 had to walk so that sky remake could fly