Thread 536255414

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/sthg/ #8565 - No Scarf Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 5 | Egg Pawn, Omega, Sage, & Metal Sonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ00DxtroN4

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsmlVv0Tw0

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

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>Sonic comic scans:
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Previous Zone: >>536216614

>>536255414 (OP)
Good grief he's naked

Femdo(m)w

>>536255414 (OP)
Hatsune Miku won, it's over.... she got the Sonic

>>536255583
You already posted this. I would say get new material but I'd rather you just fuck off to /trash/

How do I fucking leave this franchise please oh fucking God. It sucks. It all fucking sucks. Things have been shit for so long but I cant leave. Its like an abusive ex. Im not happy. I hate Sonic these days. I fucking hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Please someone fucking kill me so I dont have to care about this blue fucking rat any longer.

>>536255727
Well sega has always been into human x mobian
>Sonic and Ichiban are siblings
>Ichiban's son is a fish

*steals your man*

nothin' personnel kid

>bestie
>fourth wheel

Bad year for Amybros

I feel bad for Amy because Sonic doesn't want her to be his friend or his lover. She is just someone that's there.

>>536256061
I wish Sonic was still as cool as Jet gets to be.

>>536255835
What are you frustrated with most right now, I also feel similar

Douge

>>536256061
Crossworlds will single-handedly spawn a new generation of Jet fans

>>536255727
Wait what

Tails built Vectorman?

What is this

Is there an older Sonic game people want? I want a prize for my challenge people will accept.

>>536256061
>—
Aislop dialogue.
AIslop franchise.

Is we getting another crosstalk

>>536256135
The Sonamy relationship isn't a problem unless you're writing the most autismal scripts and moaning about character development.

>>536256061
Jet and Wave are literally the only mean characters left.

>>536255835
Find something else to like it's not that difficult
If you want platforms 2D go play Kirby of Freedom Planet or something like that, if you want 3D play A Hat in Time or Spark 2 or 3 or wait for Bubsy's game or play Crash
If you want funny animal creatures autism look for Digimon or Undertale/Deltarune or even Mario
There are some semi-dead or dead mascot franchises like Spyro, Sly Cooper, Rayman just try those as well

>>536256530
Yeah they still have to showcase Silver

but it's okay when Sonic Team does it

>>536256272
Awww

>>536256425
This person is not aware that Kit is not a tiny kid, he's a fennec, and fennecs stay small for their whole life.
Tall Kit is impossible.

>>536256150
My main concerns are as follows:
Game quality is in the fucking toilet. Frontiers was so fucking bad it legitimately made me wonder if liking Sonic was a mistake.

The music has been getting worse over time. It was alright in Frontiers, but Crossworlds ost is awful.

The character models are so archaic they'll be able to fucking drink at the legal age here soon.

The comics are fucking fanfiction now.

The whole franchise, instead of making games, shows and material for all audiences, instead is focusing SOLELY on toddlershit Blitz, Prime, Crossworlds, and Rumble.

Sonic hasn't been cool since 2009. I'm not talking about even characterization. He legitimately has been corporate safe since 20fucking10.

Among other reasons.

>>536256619
>implying

>>536256619
No they don't. They added Silver to the poster before giving him any promotional material, too.

>>536256572
Total Animal Crossingfication.

>>536256572
Knuckles insults Amy for wanting a peaceful race in his dialogue

THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.

>>536256543
uuuuuuu tangle i'm too plus-sized to get off my ride, i need to go poopy

>>536256752
>>536256880
you two are going to look mighty retarded when the next Crosstalk is about Silver

Zazz vs Cream.

Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart. Why should I care about Crossworlds?

>>536256520
>>536257005
>I am a man on the edge
>I am edging

>>536256969
That sounds EXTREMELY out of character

>>536256580
Sly 2 is so good.

Sly 3 sucks but it's got good moments.

>>536256009
>replaced by gerald

All of Amy's problems make sense once you understand nobody actually likes women

Ok but seriously how hard would it be to make a sex doll of cream the rabbit? Cant be that hard right?

>>536255980
>>536256314
it's a fan account fanart

>>536257027
You care enough to meanpost about it like a mean girliepop, I'll see you on the Open Network test on the 29th

>>536257197
No the fuck you won't

>>536256441
Better than anything Ian Flynn puts out

>>536257005
ZAZZ IS EDGING TO CREAM!?

Finally got this done. Here's a nice visual timeline for Classic Sonic.
>Where's IDW
Not bothering as its all filler. This took enough time as is.

OH NONONONONO...HWW...
https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/792599623000866816/what-is-lunars-gender
BBHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSAHAHAHAJAJJAJAJHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"Dr. Eggman knows how to throw a wild party, and now he’s in Sequin City to show Sonic and his friends how it’s done! The battle for the Chaos Emeralds continues as Eggman attacks in his latest robot, the Egg Juggler. Will the heroes prevail? And who will finally claim the seventh and final Chaos Emerald?"


The AI storyline was better

>>536257075
It's Ian Flynn, everything he writes is ooc

>>536256970
nobody's developed bro. except sega's employees. I could tell they've had enough

>>536257167
Everyone is a faggot except for me

>>536257357
>another dog character
i am so tired of dog characters we have too many, and she's a woman which makes her automatically worse

>>536257468
You wish that thing was a woman.

>>536257468
They are a sugar glider.

>>536257338
She wears clothes, she's a she.

lol get fucked bestie

>>536257476
God i need to have sex with her so bad shes built for my white cock

>>536257338
Third-Person speaker

>>536257357
They actually ruined their own storyline shoving in Eggman with a free for all bullshit fight again. Amazing

>Amy should be a nagging team mom
awful direction

>>536257654
>amy has to be diluted so this fucking retard can look better

>>536257630
so does starline

>>536257581
>>536257590
They isn't used as a singular pronoun. She is a girl.

>>536257338
I'm so glad I canceled my subscription to the comics long ago. Holy shit.

Da Juice

>>536257630
it's a male jester suit though

>>536257581
if it has eyelashes is a woman

>>536257654
Can they top making everyone's hands and feet so goddamn huge in the games?

>>536257813
Explicitly has no gender.

>This panel already existed when IDW fans were claiming that it was close to the games
Defend yourselves now.

Also
>Ian REFUSED to write Sally as the nagging team mom or a slut when that's who she was in her original version
>Suddenly 100% on board with nagging when it comes to Amy
It's almost like he's biased towards a particular ship.

>>536257338
I have become firmly convinced that IDW is just a fanfiction in which the writers self-insert their gender delusions, sexuality, and leftist politics into the characters. Why can't Sonic Team just cancel it? I'm so fatigued of seeing this franchise get ruined by this.

>>536257897
those aren't eyelashes, it's a mask
also male starline has eyelashes

I am not sure who this rival dialogue is for.

>>536257937
The last time Sonic's model was touched in any way, a gamestop employee was pepper sprayed. He'll stick with the same fucking model for eternity, and people still defend it

>>536258060
OH NO, TAILSBROS?!

>>536258060
>bench


oh no

>>536257958
...Yes Amy, that's what a secretary does for a commander.

>>536257995
you are a moron

>>536257980
hell just look at last arc
all the character who tripped over and took down clutch were literally just the tranny ocs of Evan's friends. They were all googoogaing over it on twitter immediately after the issue came out "omg dat's meeee and they're trans!!!"

Does anyone want a free copy of an older Sonic game of their choice? All you gotta do is explain how Frontiers fits in the IDW timeline.

leftists cannot write Sonic because The Wind is inherently fascist

>>536258060
>haha too slow

>>536258060
>bench
Kek.

>>536258091
I just want them to be normal sized.

>>536258060
She's gonna call the cops.

>>536258176
no, look at all the masks in the released issue page and the covers. They ALL have eyes drawn like that including the male masks

>>536258060
NO FUCKING WAY

Can we just admit that Ian hates Amy now

>>536258290
Me too, but that just isn't gonna fucking happen anymore. We're gonna get shit after shit and there's no reason getting invested in any sort of meaningful or solid change. It's just not fucking happening. All these fags want is the same thing over and over and over again.

It's just a bench

Amazing, Ian attempted to "fix" Amy by doing whatever this is and made her even MORE of a joke in the process. The boys and the Rogues are making her look pathetic and unappealing as fuck, she doesn't trash talk back so their insults just come off as true instead, her responses read like offended coping.
Not to mention that her attitude is blatantly inconsistent with every previous competitive game, even TSR.
Amyfags have disappointed me by not hating this tard Ian more. Your girl is a joke.

>>536258219
Writing windnic is easy. Just make someone else the actual protagonist.

>>536258425
So fucking what if he does? He's not fucking going anywhere. We're fucking stuck with him and that's it.

>>536258489
Every single modern character in this franchise is a fucking joke, don't get all high and mighty.

>>536258489
I never asked for this Archie cocksucker to latch onto the games in the first place.

>>536257957
That's not possible so she's a girl. >>536258060
>bench
...Is this an edit? There's no way Ian doesn't know about this, right?

Writing Sonic is so easy. All you have to do is NOT add all of the stupid bullshit from the comics and you're fine. It's so simple a 12 year old making DBZ knockoff animations on youtube can do it.

>>536258178
Why is Sonic Team even allowing the genderless Jester into the comics? Nights from Nights into Dreams was genderless but he wasn't designed that way as a political statement. The jester on the other hand is. What is going on? Have they bent the knee to the woke mob as well?

>>536258848
they let Evan pitch those two gay owls. Seems the answer is yes

>>536255414 (OP)
>Animation preview
Where the hell is Blaze? She's completely absent from the leaderboard. Why isn't she showing up in anything for CrossWorlds when we know she's in the game.

>>536258219
Leftists love fascism. They want to jail people for years over free speech and mass-report everyone who doesn't comply with their dogma.

Shadow is saved!

ITS ALMOST LIKE THEY HIRED A DIEHARD FAN FOR A SHIP THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN THE GAMES
IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE SPENT THE FIRST TWENTY YEARS OF HIS LIFE AS A HARDCORE FAN OF A SPINOFF OF A SPINOFF
IT'S ALMOST LIKE AMY AS A CHARACTER IS ANTITHETICAL TO HIS CHILDHOOD OTP

who the fuck cares about Amy she's just a pink sonic recolor jesus christ move on, blaze is the superior girl

>>536259072
Blaze doesn't do shit but eat birthday cake and change silver's diapers

>>536259058
Ian Flynn is like if you hired a Mistyfag to write Serena

>>536258939
Sonic holding the pride flag was done in 2019 by Hardlight but the post was deleted and Hardlight is a westoid studio in the U.K, not Japan

^-^

>>536259236
She enjoys sweet food and takes care of her mentally retarded kid.

The real reason there arent Sonic Adventure remakes is because they dont want to live up to that standard. They just wanna make lazy games you'll buy regardless.

>>536259147
Ah the typical sonic fan's breakfast

This is extremely meta.

>>536258091
>The last time Sonic's model was touched in any way, a gamestop employee was pepper sprayed.
Come on now, he has a brand new model in Dream Team. It looks and animates great. Too bad Sonic Team will NEVER use it and even if they made a new model themselves it would look like shit because their skills haven't developed at all in almost 20 years.

>>536259445
Apparently Amy has different dialogue here to Jet?

Was this a last minute change?

Can't believe Ian drained so much life out of Amy that Miku ended up winning the Sonicbowl...

>>536259051
Ian is le good now? Wtf!!! 0_o

>>536259420
What standard? Half-baked gimmicks and shitty voice acting?

>>536259557
It's different dialogue depending on who speaks first

>>536259613
It's working

>>536259557
Theres multiple interactions between the same characters, it's not always the same.

You're too slow!

THIS IS OUT OF CHARACTER
SHADOWFAGS DON'T UNDERSTAND SONIC

>>536259695
that's a bench

>>536259906
Tails is still waiting for you to finish on that bench

>>536259882
No one gives a single fuck about characterization outside here you delusional faggot.

>trump wins presidency
>MAGApedos whine more than ever
I thought you were gloating that "you won"? If so, why are you so mad and upset all the time lol

>>536259445
Jet's such a cunt in this game, it's great

>>536260134
>Thread filled with Crossworlds talk
Uh doomerbros?

Shadow is not dark sonic. Shadow is race Sonic

>>536259051
I am guessing this is his dialogue with Eggman?

>>536260259
>Outside here
Maybe learn to read next time, big guy.

>>536259882
I always thought a dark powered super sonic was cool as a kid but when I grew older I realized how dumb it was since it barely lasts a second in the show itself and is so not sonic to get this angry about something, at least these are spin-off sonics, they can whatever they want with him since is canon to that reality

Crossworlds won.
IDW won.
Sonic is NOT the windfags won.
sallyfags to win in two weeks.
BigGODs won.

>>536260360
I didn't mean to reply to you bro...sorry

>>536260414
Sally as a character only works when Sonic is the wind. Which means one episode of SatAM and the first few Archie comics.

>>536260384
Anyone who gets mad that Sonic shows emotions is just a stunted retard who can’t read the room or scripts. Sonic was plenty pissed in the og games but he doesn’t show it off much.

If someone killed or seriously hurt tails beyond recovery it would be very in character for him to start showing it.

>>536260384
>d is so not sonic to get this angry about something
You are an actual cuck for believing this

>>536259882
At least in some of those cases he's literally being corrupted by some shit, so you can't fault the "characterisation" of it, but I'm also a sucker for "good guy loses his shit when his friends are hurt" so maybe I'm the problem.

>go to nintendo eshop to see what sonic games are there
>theres a sonic forces dlc that is just a shirt with the sanic meme on it
We need to nuke israel holy shit.

>Ian Flynn wrote a Sonic x Teletubbies fanfiction in 2002
>The first episode of Teletubbies released in 1997
>Ian Flynn was born in May 1982, around 15 when Teletubbies first released
>Ian Flynn was willingly watching episodes of Teletubbies near adulthood, or even during adulthood
>Ian Flynn knows the names of all the Teletubbies as well as their lore
>Teletubbies is aimed at preschool-aged children, primarily 1 - 4 years old

It’s so weird that in the 90s Sonic was universally agreed to have an attitude but after Twitter cursed the earth now a legion of retards try to push their "Sonic is actually stoic and shows no emotion " and try to peddle it off as trve canon

>>536257338
Of course it's fucking nonbinary, everyone called it because these shitstain writers cant help themselves. But
>Lunar's pronoun is lunar
This means someone cockblocked them at the top. This is the wishy washy kind of "nonbinary" that only japs allow where they have a character be the gremlin that talks in third person. "X is X" with no elaboration is a quirky trope (sometimes used for traps), but they can't and won't validate a character explicitly calling themselves a they/xe/whatever the fuck. So idwtranny staff still lost in a way even if they goad the xitter retards into saying its nonbinary rep

>>536260841
Yeah.... yeah we really do

>>536260670
>he's literally being corrupted by some shit
fuck off

>>536260841
I don't think that'd fix the lame Sonic DLC problem

>>536260990
sometimes you have to take it to the extreme just to shitpost

>>536260841
Never forget the meta era, lest we repeat it

>>536261013
Cry more you maga ass faggot. Maybe trump will send you to Epstein islands to munch some baby foreskin as a reward for crying so much you disgusting nonce.

>>536260991
Now you have witnessed. Weebs truly ruined Sonic. They'll screech about it, but its true. This franchise went to shit once the weebs came. Weebs are just fucking trannies anyways.

>>536260209
You will never be a woman lolz
>>536261013
Lmao they can't even call her a they/them haha, IDWtroons lost

>>536261274
I never said I was a woman but we all know you rape kids bro

Even Jesus got angry but I am supposed to believe that Sonic is incapable of anger?

>>536261031
Damn okay I stand corrected, Sonic is truly him

>>536261514
Thank you for understanding the wind

>>536261489
I wish Knuckles would grind me to the ground heheh

The Sonic franchise has done a much better job at demoralizing me than any of those psyops ever did.

>>536261115
It would fix the whole franchise as evidenced by these posts:
>>536257338
>>536261197
>>536259581

>>536260607
I don't mind it nor I am one of those people who will just get angry because sonic is slightly off character, it truly depends on the context of the scene, Although I will still stand my ground on how dark sonic is stupid since it doesn't go anywhere since he gets upset for like 5 seconds and then goes back to normal from what I remember. Also I like when sonic shows emotions besides being carefree but maybe I don't remember if he ever got ANGRY angry in the games since it was probably more subtle and not so in your face like dark sonic.
>>536260617
What a non answer, thank you.

>>536261509
Yes and if (You) get angry you're getting out of character. People never say things that don't 100% align with their ideology under stress and will always say the exact same thing with the exact same mindset no matter what.

>>536261197
You're legally a man lol
Terfs won

I cannot believe they referenced the bench meme.

>>536261610
>Pic
Is this the new drawfag anons are schizoing about? I've been living under a rock so I can't tell.

>>536261509
Sonic is not incapable of anger. You just can't force him to be angry with magic. Frontiers and Unleashed both make this point that you can really only affect him physically.
>But didn't he suffer in frontiers?
Physically. The cyber corruption wasn't able to corrode his temperament like it did with the other three, it was only able to start shutting down those faculties entirely. Just a hint of what Sonic went through was able to make Knuckles start laughing maniacally.

Sonic is too mentally strong for any of this. But he can get angry
>Darkspine
That wasn't Sonic being mentally corrupted with dark forces, he was just angry. So many people misread that scene.

>>536261197
Stay mad troon. Japs will never validate your gender identity politics, propaganda and bullcrap, everything will stay purposefully vague and ambigious for comedy because you're only useful for laughs. Thats why they could only do this with a fucking jester KEK

>>536261509
Even Jesus wept but I am supposed to believe that Sonic is incapable of weeping?

>>536261612
People say stuff like this but when i say that what you said is by design and a major part of all the psyops suddenly im crazy

Sonic being this much of an unchanging unphasable creature instead of a person actually makes him more boring. You can make a solid and static character as an inspiration for people but not so much you can barely recognize them as a person

>>536261892
Do you look at this face and think he has normal emotions?

>>536261509
Jesus got angry because tree didn't bear a fruit at the very specific time of his need. He also got angry because the most holiest was used as a common marketplace.
He took both of those instances personally.
Sonic hasn't gotten angry in games because he doesn't have a personal berserk button. He doesn't have a personality.

>>536261197
You have no right to say that when you're the one that supports putting children on puberty blockers and letting drag queens read LGBT propaganda to them under the pretext of teaching them tolerance

>>536261889
You say this as if Japanese culture is unable to change

It's a lot easier to understand Sonic when you compare him to a Buddhist-like monk.

I see a lot of normies fuck with Zazz these days. Sega fucked up by sanitizing all the main characters, the only ones getting attention are him and the rogues for actually doing real trash talk

>>536261972
You're likely right. It feels kind of strange that all the hobbies I had got struck with identical issues. A steady loss of quality followed by the death of its own identity. It wouldn't be so bad, yet the fans seem to be calling at the demise of brand identity. I dont even have the will to get mad, Im just burnt out.

>>536262082
That's not just windfags glazing him, that's actually a thing from the games

>>536262151
>You say this as if Japanese culture is unable to change

>Jester character seemingly has two masks with a sun and moon theme
>Is exclusively called Lunar in the pre-release stuff despite that
>One of the emeralds they're holding holds a sad reflection of the sun mask version on the verge of tears
Lunar isn't real, hence the lack of gender, they're a "character" somebody else or a group of sugar gliders is playing.

>>536262202
Then you go outside and realize no one knows who these characters are

>>536262151
Cope

>>536261889
>The only "trans" character (not even, just ambiguous because even progressives like Sega know it's a mental illness) is a jester (clown) because gendies are a joke

He's a blue cartoon rat made to make fucking money, you fucking retards. None of his character fucking matters. He exists to make fucking money that you'll throw at them regardless of quality. Pay up, piggies.

Sonic's character makes more sense if you just imagine him as Ms Frizzle who is also unrelatable, enigmatic, fairy-like and almost impossible to phase. Children could be in danger and she's only upset if they actually get hurt.

>>536262448
but .... but..... my ooc... but my sauce material ......

>>536261509
Sonic is not incapable of emotions. Sonic has emotions, he's just openly emotional.

Amy is supposed to be extremely passionate, wearing all of her emotions on her sleeve. Sonic's emotions are more subtle and kept private, he keeps his feelings to himself. He's not trying to hide them, though... It's just not his style to be openly emotional because he's cool and aloof. He keeps it chill and stuff.

The problem is that fans want Amy to be less emotional and Sonic to be more emotional.

>>536262448
Well if they wanted to make money they'd give Rouge her tits back

>>536262151
Kys child grooming Israeli puppet
Trooning out is objectively harmful
https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files

>>536262649
6-12. Their target audience is 6-12. YOU ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE.

Everything in this franchise just goes to shit and there's nothing I can do but watch.

>>536261820
No, they're schizoing about a sonails drawfag. The violet from picrel is a shamless momthrower.

>>536262605
>he's just openly emotional.
NOT openly emotional*

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that Sonic is the wind?

>>536262746
In other words that's a Knuxougefag?

>>536262723
I was 7 when she debuted in sa2, I was the target audience when she had full ass and tits

To those of you doomposting atm: why?
I personally have reasons but I want to hear yours.

>>536262258
That's what happens to brands as they age, it seems.

>>536262723
NTA but their target audience is a genuine mismatch. You are more likely to get balding 30 year old man to buy Sonic than a Roblox-infused kid who spends all their time playing .exe games there.

>>536262281
I like that, imagining Lunar (and its counterpart, maybe Solar(?) are the same person and the heroes can't tell which one is the "real" personality, like Solar is the kind sorry one that calls for help from Sonic and Tails and then they scratch their heads wondering wasn't that all a trick, but they sound so real and genuine, it'd be sort of like a schizophrenic character you can't help but feel sorry for them
Wait, is IDW ripping off Fnaf security breach?

>>536262834
He isn't. He's a mascot made to make money.

>>536262837
We say momthrower here

>>536262736
We can still hold on to the music. It's not all EDM and dubstep just yet

You know what? Fuck you guys.
>Steals your thread mascot.
You don't deserve her anyway.

People have spent so long advocating for a Sonic that is antithetical to a western depictions that they don't realize that they essentially created a character who has the same amount of depth as Chuck E. Cheese or the Michelin Man and think we are the problem for not enjoying stories about a mascot who exudes no actual character.

The twins

I think the wind is really fucking boring actually

Any of you watch the There’s Something About- series on YouTube on mashed?

This one is magical cowboys and Shadow so that’s pretty cool

>>536263001
I thought that was one specific knuxougefag? Are you saying every single knuxougefag has thrown their mom?

>>536263038
PUT HER BACK

>>536263003
It is though anon. It's been like that since Forces. We only get real instruments and alternatives in spinoffs and mobile slop. I don't include frontiers because the boss fights only take up a small portion of the game while the island mini bosses and cyberspace are largely edm oriented

>>536263097
Both those girls got fox'd.

>>536263003
>It's not all EDM and dubstep just yet

I haven't heard a single song that isn't just that in Cross Worlds.

>>536262946
Yes, the regulations were a lot less strict then, it was a less popular hobby so you could get away with more. They arent fucking coming back.

>>536262982
They desperately want to rid us tho. They want to market to children so its easier for them to make less quality stuff because kids are easier to please.

>>536263096
Sonic was interesting when Maekawa wrote him. That's what we windfags want. If you really think SA2/SatBK is "boring" idk what to tell you

>>536263208
It's a joke / stereotype.

>>536263208
Yes. It also makes them mad which is kind of funny

>>536263096
Well Sonic is a mascot character first and foremost. So he is inherently basic. It worked well enough in the Classic games due to their minimal storytelling but he just comes across as boring in the more complex narratives. Maekawa tried to make Sonic more energetic in an attempt to make him more interesting for a complex story

>>536263162
Shadow and Stone spin-off when?

>>536263302
SA2 Sonic is nothing like SAtBK Sonic so you are going to have to get your story straight.

>>536263003
When's the last time there was a good non-remix in a Sonic game? And you're not allowed to post that outback fragment from Tee Lopes.

I want to see Shadow getting raped by a human. Either gender. Just rape him.

>>536263096
I know you're making a grand critique here but a story where Chuck E Cheese or Tony the Tiger are thrown into a dark dramatic epic action adventure and they stay in-character the ENTIRE time would be awesome.

>>536263509
The Frontiers Boss themes were fine. I wanted butt rock and got butt nu-metal. I'll take it at this point.

How do women find Shadow so hot?

>>536263509
Mirage Saloon

>>536263772
"I can Fix him" Energy.

>>536263175
>Sonic
>using guns

erm, this ooc

We've got you surrounded. consoom the hellokitty

>>536263991
Virgin

>>536263682
For 30+ years?

>>536263991
It’s an alternate universe have some fun with it

Sonic walking inside a children's hospital for the kid dying with cancer "Hey it's kinda sad that things like this happen but this is why we gotta live life to the fullest"

>>536264240
No fun allowed in the presence of fags.

>>536264082
One more step towards me and I'm going to make the shattered world crisis look like a fucking joke!

>>536263772
I think because he is a bad boy that deep inside is really soft or is hurting. Women LOVE these type of male characters but I think is funny how you usually get the women that have the I want to fix him mentality and draws him all cue while the other extreme is wanting them to suffer more, often in a torture or gorey way which makes me wonder why that happens

>>536264170
YES
I WANT TONAL JUXTAPOSITION

Remember, don't feed him.

>>536263772
Shadow is the most beautiful man to ever exist. He was made to rear my children. Hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution have led to the creation of women who can sniff out men with good, strong genes with great accuracy. Shadow is strong, so the woman knows he can protect her. He's self-reliant, and doesn't need anybody to succeed, showing the woman that he's capable of providing for himself as well as her, and perhaps their future children. His colors are healthy, deep and striking. But beneath the impressive show of masculinity Shadow exhibits is a pinch of femininity in both appearances and hobbies. A woman appreciates a man who shows a bit of feminine qualities without going overboard like a sissy or a tranny, it shows to her that he's no alien to her and is capable of understanding some of what she's interested in. The neotenous features he has, such as being 3 feet tall and having a large forehead, trigger within her a protective, almost motherly instinct. Strong, self-reliant, independent, deep healthy colors, masculine, slightly feminine if you squint, and cute. All of these traits combined describe Shadow. You'll notice the other boys (Silver, Tails, and Knuckles) lack one or more of these important qualities. Silver lacks self-reliance, masculinity, deep colors. Knuckles lacks the pinch of femininity in both appearance and personality, being far more rugged. Tails lacks most of the qualities I described which is why women treat him more as a pet dog or a baby than an actual potential suitor, no real woman wants Tails over Shadow. All of these qualities combined with a sexy voice and A. Popular ships that appeal to fujoshi and B. a canonical interest in human women (Maria, Molly, etc.) makes Shadow the perfect man to have marriage, sex and a family with. Shadow was basically made to be a woman's dream man, both canonically and from a meta perspective.

>>536258727
>There's no way Ian doesn't know about this, right?

One of the final Sonic questions someone asked him was about Tails bench. He didn't know what it was referencing but his red flags alerted, and the chat informed him.

I asked why women found him attractive, not to give me an autistic essay on your deranged sexual fantasies about him.

>>536263772
>>536263990
No so much the "I can fix him" energy. That can apply to anyone with troubles. Shadow is loyal and devoted to his woman that he would rather sacrifice his life for her than ever hurt her. He is purely monogamous and serious in his pursuit. Shadow brings all of himself to the table. He surrenders himself. He's confident and *competent*.
Every other man is a player or loser only there to waste a woman's time.

>>536264751
You've never even spoken to a woman, I see.

Methship

No one wants a Sonic game for completing a challenge

>>536264751
>Ask an autistic women why she's autistic about something
>Not expecting autism.

>>536262723
>6-12. Their target audience is 6-12
And this is the real problem with the Sonic franchise.
Kids like Sonic because he's cool. The general audience like Sonic because he's cool - design wise, at the least, even if not personality wise.
No one wants a "cutesy" Sonic except Sega because they think that's what people want, but only shows how out of touch they are. Perhaps its their inner-nip bullshit that makes them think that way. That everything has to be chibi and plushie and cute and shit.

The problem is, if kids want cutesy, they'll go Nintendo and play Mario or Pokemon. They won't go to Sonic, because he's not "cute" and "family friendly" to them.
Sonic needs to hit that teenager/young adult demographic, so kids have something to move on to from the "cutesy" shit.
It needs to become the cartoon animal Dragon Ball esque shonen it was always dreamed to be.

>>536263302
As a windfag, the Maekawa era, Battle, and other games made me almost HATE Sonic. Only Pontaff and Archie/IDW/Ian Sonic are worse.

>>536264751
>Ask why women find Shadow attractive
>Get answer as to why women find Shadow attractive
>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
You will never get laid desu...

>>536265160
>edgy, yet safe
Kids are too stupid for anything but family friendly sonic these days. Get the fuck over it. Any rivalry would be considered mean.

big dick energy

Now the problem is finding a woman Shadow would settle for considering the first one fucking died

>>536264913
Women disgust me.

>>536265362
He's just like me when I'm waiting for my happy meal

I don't like the title of "Windfag". Not that it fails its description, but I feel like it's just a way of saying "Sonic fan".
I guess "Sonic Fan" is too vague. Whatever. I won't debate it.

Shadowyumes

>>536265191
I don't give a damn what you think tranny, your opinion is invalid.

>>536256061
Man I love Jet shitting on absolutely everyone. One of the few good things about this low effort game.

>>536265362
wings out guns out

>>536265476
Blue rat mascot. Fuck off. His character literally doesn't matter.

>>536265356
>movie recognition
That just means all those kids that saw Sonic 3 are going to want more Shadow fucking shit up

>>536265376
If Shadow is truly the ideal man, he'll live the rest of his life without loving another woman. Shadowfujos can't win.

>>536265362
Sex with Shadow
>>536265615
Sex with Shadow

>>536265640
Sonic will always matter to me.

Keanu sounds too old to be shadow not gonna lie…that and the fact he sounds nothing like Shadow’s voice actor

>>536265615
ready for plowdriving Metal Sonic

>>536265785
Cuck

>>536256061
>Fourth wheel
Jet you retard that means she's important and completes the car.
Third wheel is an insult because a vehicle having just 3 wheels is awkward, you want an even number.
What a fucking bird brain.

>>536265356
Fan made porn is also a huge brand driver but they wont admit to that.

I finished the draft of my fanfic. And I got like 6 likes on my fan art.

Good way to cheer up my day with this damn rain and constant blackouts.

What does "Edgy but safe" even mean?

>>536265875
May I see them?

>>536265160
There is so much shonen for you to watch without ruining Sonic too, they made a whole fucking shonen Sonic anime and it sucked ass, please just go literally anywhere else.

>>536265684
Truly yes. I feel like shadow wouldn’t even be shadow without 1 Maria being dead and 2 him still being hung up on it

>>536265872
6 to fucking 12. You blind faggot

>>536265824
Ian Hanlin the sexiest Shadow VA
David Humphrey the softest Shadow VA dude's got like an opera singing voice

>>536265978
antisemetic, but also jewish

Krack is the only shadow yume here so the long posts about shadow must be hers.

>>536265980
No. But thanks for being curious, I appreciate it.

>>536265850
lol you right

>>536265978
Brooding and angst, darker or """"mature"""" situations, but never swearing or doing harm and always ending on a happy status quo.

>>536265785
Sonic will never be that kino again.

>>536265978
free speech but with chilling effect

>>536266120
All Shadamy shippers are Shadow yumes

>>536265978
Smiling after being tortured for 6 months and walking away unphased

why is ai better at coming up with story ideas than the current writers?

>>536266223
I dunno, if that studio that did Dark Beginnings made a Sonic focused OVA, it would be kino as fuck.

>>536265875
Does it cheer you up knowing I've been collecting information about you?
There's only a few areas with rain and power outages right now.

>>536266312
You haven't shown an example of that.

>>536265978
Boom Shadow comes to mind. He has the "edge" of Shadow but without the actual emotional backstory or criticism of the military industrial complex, making him "safe" for kids.

>>536266542
There was the cream story in the last thread.

>>536266157
>If it doesn't get posted it doesn't exist
What are you afraid of? Him >>536266532 ?

>>536265978
it has the aesthetic of being edgy instead of actually being inappropriate for kids

>>536266542
There were anons who were hyped for the current arc being a circus story and then were disappointed to find out it was fake.

>>536266532
Such as?

>>536266691
It's a draft. It's not worth posting. I have to rewrite it first.

>>536265356
>women 25+ can't like Sonic

This is bullshit, Sonic loves mature women.

>>536266992
The vast majority of women move on by now, only the autistic ones are left.

>>536266312
It has more to borrow from than just Sonic and anime.

>>536266992
Loved*
This is a different Sonic to the one you grew up with.

>>536266056
David does sound really nice I like his voice. Keanu can do dark brooding and cool and he can do comedic without breaking it which is pretty good. I just wish they went with someone who sounds closer to the other guys. Keanu did good tho

>>536266992
>Found three grey hairs the other day
Sonic likes women with grey hair right...

>>536266880
What's the premise?

>>536267301
Blaze fighting against Eggman Nega, and some drama with an OC.

>>536267662
I gotta admire how a joke from social media became canon.

Well, before that Shadow character bios just say he likes "nothing". Riveting.

>>536267194
>Sonic likes women with grey hair right

Blaze approaches grey depending on who's coloring her.

>>536267918
That social media joke didn't become canon. He's smelling the beans, not eating them. He drinks coffee like a normal person.

>>536268039
him liking coffee at all is a social media joke

>>536268039
Thats...what I meant, anon.

>>536267918
Social media shitposts were a light in the dark of writing malpractice era.

>>536265834
>>536265615
>>536265362
manspreading

I like Sonic because he's like the wind

>>536268497
I like him because he's like the little guy who runs next to my parents car.

What do we call the Sage from here to differentiate her from Sage the ai?

>>536267194
Geez, I didn't know this general was occupied by OLD HAGS!

>>536268627
The Sage from here isn't a Sonic character and doesn't even resemble one

>>536268627
We only talk about canon characters here.

This heat is more oppresive than my father.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqhYzuMT-jE

I will never be convinced that Sonic Colors is lame.

>>536268627
I keep doubletaking when Sage's name shows up in official content because of that, but way to distinguish is her full name Sage the Sloth.

>>536268912
It is though, that said this set piece is pretty hype.

>>536268867
What the fuck was his father's problem?

The journal says Gerald's sons started feuding at some point and it's not clear why.

>>536269447
I'll take a guess and say they started feuding cause one was soft-boiled while the other was hardboiled. Tale as old as time.

>>536255727
>>536255980
>sega has always been into human x mobian
and so, pokemon devs as well

>>536268912
It's the cutscenes and level design that are lame. The concept is flawless. Planet Wisp is fucking kino (conceptually). Eggman over the loudspeakers is great.

If you maybe just rewrote the intro, removed most of the other cutscenes, and overhauled the level design to be more in line with the original intent before Wii memory limitations got in the way, it would be solid.

>>536267980
Pushing down Blaze's fatty tail wrinkle.
>>536268249
No it's not.
http://blog.sonic-channel.jp/archives/2009-02-06.html
Shadow's had a loose association with coffee for a while and they ramped it up recently. They're making Shadow and Silver obsessed with their favorite "foods" like Sonic and Tails. It doesn't originate from the social media meme, but the social media meme did kickstart it. Sonic Team just made it into "he likes to drink black coffee".
>>536268297
Oh, it's you, nvm. Begone Discorder.

Why does Sega keep putting the Switch 2 version in the line up when it’s not coming out until 2026?

>>536270262
So people who bought a Switch 2 know they have at least one game coming out for it

Is there an interview where James Marsden apologizes to the interviewer who tells him that his kids dragged him to see the Sonic movie? Because I think I remember seeing that but now I'm not sure.

>>536270235
"Discorder"...what?

>>536270416
Sonic isn’t one of them that’s for sure. Who the fuck is buying a Sonic game on a Japanese console?

>>536270235
>http://blog.sonic-channel.jp/archives/2009-02-06.html
There is no coffee in this link

>>536269447
>Maria Sr resents his father for taking Maria away for so long without curing her
>Eggman Sr in turn resents Maria Sr for not appreciating that Gerald is spending literally all of his time on Maria, and probably feels unable to get his father's attention

That was the subtext I think. I'm not sure what it adds that Maria has a younger sibling who doesn't have NIDS though, unless it's Victoria, who doesn't look 50+ years old.

>>536270763
I believe the intent for "Maria has a younger sister" is for the tragedy, that Gerald felt they were replacing her.

>>536257338
>>536257867
I didn't even buy the comics, but I'd say I quit caring just in time

>>536270235
>It doesn't originate from the social media meme, but the social media meme did kickstart it

...what? Shadow didn't have any association with coffee at all before the twitter takeover.

>>536270724
>(a cake made by layer of chocolate and coffee taste)
>Shadow ate one already
shadow has been associated with liking coffee taste in the past and you need to cope

>>536270763
It’s kind of fucked that they had a second kid and just sort of forgot about Maria lmfao.

>>536270889
>has to be vaguely ambiguous like a trap
Sega knows

>>536270889
This shit makes me sick to my stomach due to personal trauma.

You eat pop corns when you're depressed, too?

Sonic & Shadow are homeless bums and their fans are okay with that for some reason.

I don't like it when they take a more obscure trait and then start bringing it up constantly until even normies know. Amy and her tarot cards/dowsing, Silver liking apples, Tails liking mints, Knuckles liking grapes, Shadow liking coffee. Characters and their favorite foods in general. People don't obsess over their favorite foods that much. It comes off as unnaturally forced. I'm not against them having a favorite food, it's cool to see it referenced the first few times but it's losing its appeal to me. Normie fans still clap like a seal though so I guess I'm just not the target audience.
>>536270535
You're not as anonymous as you think you are.

>>536270889
Get out while you still can, folks

>>536270975
A cake made to be eaten with coffee and actual coffee is not the same.

I find it cosmically ironic that not only did Sage become an official name for an official character but also that loli Sage has a few similarities to our Sage.

>>536271368
And who am I supposed to be? I haven't even done anything today.

>>536270889
And of course you have all these faggots clapping like seals at it. Expect to see it on Plebbit and Bluesky too

>>536270889
>>536271479
May they all burn in hell. Time to find another franchise

>>536270936
>>536270975

>>536271495
The cake is coffee flavored nigga.

>>536270889
Great they've made a new fucking flag

>>536271619
>The cake is coffee flavored nigga.
That's not the same thing as actual coffee. That's like saying grape flavored soda tastes like grapes;

>>536271368
...Nova?

Oh boo hoo niggas. You'll still buy the next game. You'll still read the comic. And youll keep paying money for this hobby. You dont really care about this, youre just looking to be mad.

>>536271479
Time to move Sonic comic writing to Iran. The Persians won't tolerate this degeneracy

>>536271495
wow you can't read

Victoria got all the good genes.

>>536271805
...Who are you talking to?

>>536271805
I haven't spent money on Sonic in years.

>>536270763
I feel kind of sad that Ivo had the chance to meet Gerald and Maria during Shadow Gens and he blew it because he was too busy on his stupid anti-sonic scheme.

>>536271368
Midwits--for lack of a better term--have a tendency to overstate character traits to an obnoxious degree.

Kind of makes me think about how King K. Rool debuted in Smash Ultimate, and a large amount of his moveset were references to past games. And that was fine...until they did it again in Bananza

>>536271889
Likely story, pay piggy. You'll always fund this hobby. To death.

Fact: The reason Tangle never spoke up and took even a little blame while Lanolin placed 100% of it on herself is because she is a filthy straggot, not because she was the only one who did wrong. This is also the same reason why she'll be proverbially sucking Tangle and Whisper's dicks when they meet again for 3+ issues while Tangle makes jabs at her the entire time.

The absolute seethe in this thread kek

>>536271890
Eggman doesn't care, he's a narcissist,

>>536271805
>You'll still buy the next game
>Pirated or watch playthrough on yotube
>You'll still read the comic
Also pirated and watched through youtube
>youll keep paying money for this hobby
Haven't spent a single dime since mania, don't intend to

>>536271178
Same, wanna elaborate or nah? It makes me feel physically ill.
>>536271726
...You can't be this dumb anon. Opera cakes contain REAL COFFEE. It's an ingredient. A grape flavored soda is just artificially replicating the flavor, often poorly.

>>536272126
>Opera cakes contain REAL COFFEE. It's an ingredient.
And yet it's not the same as drinking actual coffee

>>536271964
>King K. Rool debuted in Smash Ultimate, and a large amount of his moveset were references to past games. And that was fine...until they did it again in Bananza


...This is such a silly thing to take issue with.

>>536271805
The last Pokémon game I bought was Sun.
Not Ultra Sun. Vanilla Sun. That was nine years ago.

Last Sonic thing I purchased? Mania Plus in 2018. Didn't even buy Shadow Gens with the bullshit they pulled with Amy, Rouge and the dialogue.

Eggman Nega not being mentioned anywhere in the robotnik genealogy is kinda funny.

>>536272445
Why would he be? He doesn't exist yet.

>>536264513
Yeah he’s getting a bit chonky

>>536255206
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>536271987
Your clumsy composition aside, it hurts so much to see a character I initially liked mutated into a plank of lesbian shipbait

Amy, Rouge, and Tangle are all being stripped of their personality (and in some cases, physicality)

Why are you guys so mean to them?

>>536272887
Nobody cares about them. Some anons are mad about the "Agenda" ignoring than non binary jesters are a thing in this franchise with Sonic's sibling, NiGhTs.

So practically there is no one talking about the jester.

>>536272818
The whole cast has been stripped of personality because you faggots advocated for it

>>536272887
You're supposed to refer to Lunar as Lunar. Using they is apparently the wrong pronoun according to Evan Stanley

>>536272398
You say that now, until a decade from now when he pulls out a blunderbuss with the same cannon patters for the fourteenth time.

And thanks for greentexting without spoiler tags, you cock

>>536272887
>*to Lunar
Ftfy
Personally I'm fine if it was exclusively 3rd-person

>>536273113
I don't give a shit about neo-pronouns. It's singular they or nothing, I won't go for that shit.

>>536272887
YOU JUST USED THEIR WRONG PRONOUNS CHUD

>>536272887
They haven't even done anything yet.

>>536273010
Nights is androgynous, not nonbinary and his ambiguous gender wasn't done for the sake of getting brownie points on Twitter

I'll tell you my dirty little secret.
Don't tell anyone or you'll be just another regret.

>>536272887
I don't care about Lunar.

Mentally ill writers are using gender ambiguity as a sidestep to promote the non-binary bullshit.

Zooble is a similar case, as much as I enjoy TADC

>>536273153
That's like being mad that Sonic has a spindash or that Eggman uses robots. Or that Ryu has a hadouken. Why would a character not maintain a preferred fighting style?

>>536272887
It’s a disgusting putrid aids infected tranny design made by a woke freak.

>>536273274
>Nights is androgynous, not nonbinary
Anon, Nights literally has no gender. Back in the 90s when they were made, nobody had a concept of "non-binary".

>>536273043
No I ficign didn't

>>536273210
Too bad chud, it's Lunar now. Kneel to your lord and savior Evan Stanley

uuu...

The guy making Sonic Rush 3D just opened up a gaming device channel to talk about.... a totally unrelated side project he's making.

JUST MAKE THE FUCKING FAN GAME I FUCKING BEG YOU. FINISH THE GOD DAMN GAME. WE CANT RELY ON SEGA, PLEASE. YOURE MY ONLY SOURCE OF HOPE. JUST FINISH THE FUCKING THING PLEASE.

>>536273168
>>536273113
Oops I suppose I should rephrase that, thanks. LUNAR, why do you hate Lunar just for being Lunar?
I agree Lunar will probably refer to Lunar in third person which is gonna be pretty funny. But will Sonic & Co keep repeating Lunar's name too?
>>536273425
I mean it's quite blatant Zooble is Goose's self insert not like that's very hidden

>>536273485
>Anon, Nights literally has no gender. Back in the 90s when they were made, nobody had a concept of "non-binary".
Ask your average modern Sonic fan if NiGHTS is non-binary.

>>536273725
>fan game
>ever being finished

lol

lmao

>>536273725
>Sonic fan games
>Ever being finished
I got some bad news for you buddy

I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE JESTER. FUCK OFF. I DONT CARE ABIUT THE COMICS EITHER. BURN IN HELL.

>>536273770
>Ask your average modern Sonic fan if NiGHTS is non-binary.
The average modern Sonic fan doesn't know who NiGHTS is.

Evan Stanley cannot draw humans.

>>536274049
Evan Stanley will be fuckin replaced by AI before long here. Especially after injecting her bullshit.

>>536271784
No.
>>536271964
I get that Sonic characters – or cartoon styled characters in general – are kind of tropey so some flanderization is bound to happen. But it's difficult when you get really attached to the character(s) as they are, you see it changed right in front of you, and then your "fellow fans" simply nod along and defend it. It breaks my immersion quite badly to see real world memes in what's supposed to be canon content. Sometimes it feels like the "meta era" never really ended, it's still meta but it tries to take itself seriously at the same time.

>>536274212
>it. It breaks my immersion quite badly to see real world memes in what's supposed to be canon content.
Sonic has ALWAYS been influenced by pop culture, get over yourself.

TRAAAAAAAITORRRRR

Are humans actually banned from IDW or is the staff just uninterested?

You know fucking what. I'm over it. You guys are so fucking right. Let this whole fucking franchise be replaced by AI. Fuck it. Im done pretending artist integrity matters. Im done pretending art matters. Faggots ruined it. I know what kind of shit you faggot artists will slip into the comics. You dont deserve it anymore. We NEED to embrace AI, like fucking now.

Shadally Shadally

>>536271368
>People don't obsess over their favorite foods that much

You should have known me back when I made drinking ovaltine my whole personality.

Do you think that current AI models can write better?

>>536273725
>He fell for it again
L ooooooo L

>>536274523
Yes, fucking replace all of them now.

>>536274047
>The average modern Sonic fan doesn't know who NiGHTS is
I doubt that.

>Tangle
Lesbian
>Whisper
Lesbian
>Jewel
Lesbian with JenHen's butterfly OC
>Surge
neurodivergent rape victim stuck with an abusive manipulative male partner brainwashed into being cis as a child until her true identity comes out embracing her lesbian sexuality and leaving her abuser.
>Lanolin
incompetent bigoted cis female that is exposed place by the LGBT
>Belle
trans-coded
>Lunar
non-binary
>Mimic
genderfluid
>Kit
incel chud school shooter
>Starline
Homosexual
>Clutch
evil rich old boomer that serves israel (eggman empire) and gains power and influence through fraudulent means aka Tr*mp
>Rough and Tumble
Homosexual, incestuous, and a disabled amputee

>>536274431
He's playing both sides ehh?

>People with anxiety and autistic mental illnesses are told to touch grass, take meds and fit in with society
>Trannies and alphabet mental illnesses are coddled, patted on the back and encouraged to indulge in their insanity
How did we get here
Why have we allowed Sonic to be infested with this shit
I keep being told this is a kids franchise and yet it feels like the poor fuckers are constantly being dragged into this they/them horseshit when they just want to read about a blue hedgehog going fast

>>536274431
Kirby's Air Ride is literally being made by Bandai Namco so it makes sense.

Glad to see Pacman will be in a good game for once

>>536274329
Pop culture TRENDS that INSPIRED the character. Not forced flavor of the month internet memes you'd only know about if you visited Twitter. Dumb fucking retard.

Well, it's real.

>A character is refered exlusively in 3rd-person
>Thread is set on fire in a propane warehouse

>>536274668
Than you don't know what the average Sonic fan is.

Pro-tip: They aren't people in their 30s.

>>536274673
>>536274698
Start advocating for total AI replacement.

>>536272126
>wanna elaborate or nah?

Not really I just have a series of horrible life experiences with people who claim to be "nonbinary".

>>536274434
Uninterested / they can't draw them. I think they used to be banned in "two worlds" era but that ended years ago.

Victoria will probably show up in IDW eventually if they can get artists that can draw her consistently.

>>536274212
> Sometimes it feels like the "meta era" never really ended, it's still meta but it tries to take itself seriously at the same time.
That is absolutely what happened.
The Pontaff era was meta about the character archetypes of Sonic and the franchise as a whole.
The Flynn era switches that to the characters themselves and the lore and history WITHIN Sonic. As if any new game or product can't exist without it acknowledging an unrelated thing about the Sonic world.

>>536274771
Why is Bubsy getting naked in front of children

>>536274431
He's been in:
Mario Kart
Sonic Kart and now
Kirby Kart

A couple more kart racers crossovers and he can get himself a free coffee.

>>536274882
I'm not even 30, and I've known about NiGHTS since the early 2000s. Actually pay attention to how many games he's in.

>>536274762
Sounds like cope to me chief

>>536274882
Zoomers know NiGHTs is a Sonic Team character from a game series of the same name.

>>536275013
Because Bubsy isn't written by scared corporate boomers too afraid to make their mascot do anything.

>>536275032
If you played since the early 2000s you are ALMOST 30 and my point still stands.
>>536275080
No they don't, unless someone put NiGHTS in Friday Night Funkin

>>536274771
I don't know what kind of life you had to have led in the 90s to even hear of Bubsy. I feel like I'm being gaslit when people talk about him like he was as big as Gex (who was genuinely a big deal) or something.

>>536274975
yep Sonic is now about itself

>>536274771
>Neice has half-lids
She's baked outta her mind.

>>536274883
No I won't AI chud. Those are my IDW HEROES and only exist in their current forms thanks to being person*lly (I will not type that forced ooc ship where Sally is with Sonic instead of Nicole) crafted by human hands with purpose and intent.

Replace ALL the writers with AI, even and especially the Japanese ones. If no one fucking does it right, than no one deserves to write him.

>>536275281
>>536274975
You faggots ACTIVELY wanted this shit for years and now that its here you don't want it.

>>536274523
Let's test it out
(Despite asking it to stay under 1500 words if ignored me. Just like a true Sonic fan, I'm so proud)

Sonic Momentum (Working Title)

Premise

When Dr. Eggman uncovers Momentum, an ancient planetary machine that regulates the world’s energy, his attempt to harness it destabilizes the planet. Now, Sonic and his friends must restore balance before the world collapses—while clashing over whether Momentum should be preserved or destroyed.

STORY

Prologue

The game opens with Sonic racing along an idyllic coastline. Suddenly, the ocean erupts as a colossal structure—Momentum—emerges from the deep. Eggman arrives, boasting he has found the planet’s “engine” and will use it to fuel his empire. He activates it, but the machine destabilizes, unleashing earthquakes, storms, and bizarre energy creatures called Phantoms.

Sonic narrowly escapes and races off to stop him.

Act I – Fractured World

Sonic reunites with Tails and Amy, who are tracking disasters linked to Momentum. Tails reveals the machine taps into the same energy as the Chaos Emeralds. The planet’s balance is failing, and if Eggman keeps meddling, the world could literally split apart.

Knuckles enters after the Master Emerald reacts violently to Momentum’s awakening. He believes the Chaos Emeralds are tied to the machine’s design and vows to protect them.

Soon, Sonic crosses paths with Shadow, sent by G.U.N. to secure Momentum as a potential weapon. Shadow declares that Eggman must be stopped—but believes the only way to protect the world is to destroy the machine outright. Sonic insists on saving it, sparking a philosophical clash that runs throughout the story.

(1/?)

>>536274698
I keep asking myself the same question. Why is Sonic Team allowing this? What is going on with them?

>>536274431
This is fake, though very possible.

>>536275013
Sonic Sez there's nothing wrong with taking off your clothes in front of your niece and nephew.

>>536275257
Yes they do.

Money
>Bu-
Money

>>536256061
Amy has such lukewarm dialog in this game.

>>536275409
Shut the fuck up faggot queer, kill yourself.

>>536275503
IF IT KEEPS SELLING, THEYLL KEEP DOING IT. STOP FUCKING BUYING THE FUCKING PRODUCT. HOLY SHIT.

>>536275485
(Continuing)

Act II – The Phantom Threat

Eggman’s tampering warps the machine, creating Phantoms—chaotic energy beings drawn to the Emeralds. These aren’t mindless monsters but unstable life-forms lashing out in confusion.

The heroes encounter Lyra, an ancient AI guardian of Momentum who manifests as a holographic figure. She explains the machine was designed by a lost civilization to keep the planet’s energy in harmony. Destroying it, she warns, would endanger the entire ecosystem. But Lyra is damaged and fragmented, giving only pieces of the truth.

Character Arcs:

Tails struggles with feeling overshadowed by Sonic’s reckless confidence, pushing him to step into a true leadership role.

Amy shines as the group’s heart, uniting clashing personalities with her empathy.

Knuckles begins to see his role as Guardian in a global sense, not just tied to Angel Island.

Shadow’s growing frustration with Sonic highlights their different worldviews—optimism vs. pragmatism.
Eggman, meanwhile, constructs Phantom-E, a colossal mech powered by corrupted energy, intent on forcing Momentum fully under his control.

(2/?)

>>536275619
No, they don't.

>>536274771
That looks like complete garbage, doomies are really trying to gas this up as the Sonic killer?

>>536275267
I never played any of his games but I've heard of him. Can't say he was popular. Just that his marketing department were on point.

That said, this is aimed at an even younger demographic. Kids who learned about Bubsy from Jon "wealthy blacks also commit more crime than poor whites, that's a fact" Tron.

https://youtu.be/FTAlr5raV2U?si=Bj2yzhVcnZlEVjJm

This is where Bubsy gets current fanbase from.

>>536275485
>>536275653
Act III – Collision Course

The team splits up to gather the Chaos Emeralds, believing they can stabilize Momentum. Shadow confronts Sonic one last time, warning that saving the machine is impossible—it’s too dangerous to exist. They duel, but the fight ends in a draw, both too exhausted to continue. Shadow departs, vowing to do things his way.

As Eggman activates Phantom-E at Momentum’s core, the machine begins tearing open rifts in reality. Entire landmasses start to break apart, and Phantoms surge across the globe.

The heroes regroup. Lyra admits the truth: Momentum was never meant to run forever. It requires “renewal” every few millennia through Chaos Energy, but the process was forgotten. Now, the Emeralds are the only way to restore it.

In a final push, Sonic and friends storm Eggman’s fortress at the machine’s heart. Everyone has their moment: Tails disables defenses, Amy rescues trapped civilians, Knuckles guards the Master Emerald, Shadow clears a path through Eggman’s army.

FINALE

Sonic confronts Eggman inside Phantom-E for the climactic battle. With the Chaos Emeralds, Sonic becomes Super Sonic, facing a colossal, half-machine/half-energy monstrosity fused with Eggman’s technology and Phantom chaos.

After a grueling fight, Super Sonic stabilizes Momentum with the Emeralds. Lyra, now whole again, thanks them and promises to maintain balance. But Shadow watches from afar, unsatisfied—warning that one day, Momentum may again threaten the world.

The machine sinks back beneath the planet, dormant once more. Sonic and his friends walk into the sunrise, confident they’ll face whatever comes next—together.

---

Tone matches the Adventure era: heartfelt, epic, but not grimdark. Lighthearted banter balances serious stakes, keeping characters true to themselves.

Word Count: ~1,260


---

Would you like me to also draft level concepts (like Adventure-style hubs and themed action stages) that tie into this story?

(3/3)

Rosemary!

>>536275653
>Amy shines as the group’s heart, uniting clashing personalities with her empathy.
Even in AI slop Amy is redundant irrelevant trash that adds nothing of value.

>>536275782
I am legitimately excited because of how shit Sonic is right now. Im not even kidding you.
>bubsy looks like shit tho
SO DOES SONIC RETARD. SONIC FRONTIERS LOOKS LIKE A SHITTY TECH DEMO AND YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS ATE IT THE FUCK UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>536257338
Am I still supposed to consider IDW "canon"?

>>536275831
Look at those saggers

>>536275790
>JonTron recovered like nothing and just kept going while staying in his lane and has a loyal and active fanbase even years after he stopped doing vidya reviews.
>Destiny is so cucked and gay now that even his own son actively makes fun of him and gives his personal data over to KF.

Oh have the turns have tabled.

>>536275963
but the titan boss fights were so peak bruh

sonic brought that smoke fr fr no cap on god

>even the AI story is as generic and boring as an IDW story
Oh my God, this franchise is finished. We have no more hope.

>>536275782
It has SOVL, something Shitnic hasn't had in over 20 years.

>>536276048
They're called breasts, Ms.Mongoose. Don't make me feel old now.

>>536276056
They haven't turned. Destiny has always been a faggot destined to be eaten by his own i.e. Lucas the Keffals.

>>536276146
Frontier 2 will be peak, you'll see!

>>536276151
Amy for the last time you don't have to wait for my permission just go to the bathroom

>>536276146
>AI writes something bad
Wow who would have thought

>>536276136
All it takes is one fucking hype moment I swear to god. It doesn't matter how garbage how awful and how shitty these fucking games are.

wow I don't care about Lunar lol

>>536276268
You're gonna feel older seeing your new grandchildren.

Next game will have Tails overcoming his cowardice and inconsistencies...right?

>>536276385
People literally defend Forces because of Double Boost.

>>536275485
>while clashing over whether Momentum should be preserved or destroyed.
This is hilariously meta

>>536276302
ok

Honestly, I don’t get how people still cope about Ian Flynn “not understanding the characters.” The guy’s been writing Sonic longer than most of you have been out of middle school, and he consistently nails their voices better than Sega ever did in the mid-2000s. Knuckles isn’t a brain-dead idiot, Shadow isn’t a walking edge compilation, and Tails actually feels like Sonic’s equal instead of his cheerleader. Like, do you really want to go back to the “Sonic and the Black Knight” era where everyone felt like a parody of themselves?

The truth is, the only reason some of you hate him is because he dares to give the characters internal conflict and growth instead of keeping them as empty Saturday morning archetypes. Heaven forbid Sonic have an actual personality beyond “haha chili dog fast.” Flynn knows the cast better than Sega does, and deep down you know it.

>>536276478
Skye is a cutie, too bad he and his sister were deleted out of existence

>>536257338
>>536270889
Glad to see the "meta era" is over and the writers of "peak" have their priorities straight

At least I still have Digimon.

>>536276508
IM GONNA TEAR MY FUCKING HAIR OUT. THESE FAGGOTS DESRRVE 100 MORE YEARS OF SLOP UNTIL THEY DEMAND BETTER.

>>536275480
> /sthg/ anons all have the same opinion

I realized pretty early on that Flynn was going to be a mistake. Same for Evan not too long after.

You're thinking of the Twittards actively cheering the burning ship as we speak

>>536276443
You...LITERALLY haven't even read a story involving them yet. Why would you?

>>536276550
>Ian Flynn
>Writing and handling Tails well.
You can only pick one of those things.

>>536276036
Only idiots believe this stuff is "canon". Just like Sonic Prime.

>>536276507
Yes and it will be reversed in the next game like nothing happened except he'll slightly reference it after doubting himself again to Sonic.

>>536276507
*pfft*
heh
haha
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no

>>536276665
YES, YOU FAGGOTS ALL HAVE THE SAME FUCKING OPINION AND IM TIRED OF PRETEDNING OTHERWISE. YOU ALL WANT THE AAME FUCKING THING. QUALITY. AT THE END OF THE DAY THATS ALL THIS IS. ITS A FUCKING LACK OF QUALITY THAT YOU CHOOSE TO INTERPRET IN DIFFERENT WAYS. SHIT THE FUCK UP.

>>536275480
What we "wanted" were good stories, we asked for Flynn back in 2011 because we were basing it off his old Archie stuff and figured maybe he could draw up some fun shit for the series
Instead we got Flynn post IDW "I <3 SONIC" who blames all his criticism on a non existent mandate by Sega.

>>536276689
>why would you care about a new character?
We're supposed to get excited about new characters, actually.

yo what's up with this obvious troll who keeps caps locking with the most basic ass takes of all time thinking he's making us mad?

Do not ever forget that Bubsy had proper ball rolling mechanics established in a 3D game before Sonic did despite SEGA having an IP that is based entirely around ball rolling.

imagine spending your day still posting in this shithole

Sonic is a franchise that is always about "if" and "when" but it never actually "is" When you accept this truth, you can free yourself from Sonic.

>>536277113
Im typing caps because Im fucking mad. Im tired of these same fucking conversations we have EVERY FUCKING DAY

>>536277113
The usual underaged /v/ kids who come over whenever something about Sonic is announced or shown off, in this case the new Bubsy game having rolling physics
They'll be gone by tomorrow

BWAAAAAAAAAAH
>sniff
>sniff sniff
BWAAAAAAAAAAH

>>536276550
> Shadow isn’t a walking edge compilation
> COWARDS RUN I WIN

> Tails actually feels like Sonic’s equal instead of his cheerleader
Tails was lamenting his cowardice twice in Ian-penned works. Once in the comics, again in Frontiers.
And then cowered again in Metal Virus.
In fact, give me five examples of Tails feeling like Sonic's equal in the IDW Comics, Frontiers, or Dream Team.

> Heaven forbid Sonic have an actual personality beyond “haha chili dog fast.” Flynn knows the cast better than Sega does, and deep down you know it

Sonic is not Spider-Man, and Flynn isn't Stan Lee. He's a discount Joss Whedon

>>536275485
Better than IDW.

>>536277042
You aren't supposed to care about a new character you know literally nothing about, that's fuckign retarded.

When Archie ended, the people involved in it should've just been discarded alongside it.

>>536277369
why is he yelling and sniffing?

>>536277238
I CANT FUCKING LEAVE. I TRIED. I END UP COMING BACK. I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO LEAVE THIS FRANCHISE AND NEVER RETURN BUT ITS LIKE FUCKING HEROIN. I LEGIT CANT HELP MYSELF.

>>536277289
Then why are you here? This place goes into a loop 90% of the time. Are you retarded?

>>536275485
Shadow would not help G.U.N. secure a weapon otherwise this is fine.

>>536276897
No

>>536276550
>>536277390
First of all, Tails has never been Sonic's equal, EVER. So why are you even expecting that?

>>536277492
He smells mint treats and is demanding them.

Real talk, I don't think anyone has an issue with NiGHTS being "genderless/sexless" or appearing as whatever the dreamer wants him/her to be. In a vacuum, a character like NiGHTS isn't bad. I mean, it's literally all taking place in a dream instead of tangible reality, right?
The issue comes with the intent behind it.

When NiGHTS was made, the intent was likely
>It'd be neat if NiGHTS was just whoever you wanted him/her to be to reflect the nebulousness of the dream world :)

When Lunar was made, the intent was likely
>We need to normalize taking advantage of children and mentally vulnerable people by tricking them into believing their mental distress will be fixed if they drug themselves for the rest of their short lives and cut off parts of their body even though it's been proven that makes them feel worse instead of better, we're transing your children teehee so wholesome I love medical malpractice, it's your fault when they inevitably kill themselves because the dreams they bought were unreachable chud

>>536277516
YES. >>536277516

>>536276146
It is actually an adventure and has lore and has the heroes fighting Eggman directly

>>536277608
This is just your own biases influencing your perception and has little to do with the character itself.

Evan said Sonic was aroace.

I asked Chat GPT to name some western writers that could replace Ian Flynn and be good for the series and it gave me these four

----

One strong candidate could be Greg Weisman (creator of Gargoyles and showrunner on Young Justice).

He’s great at juggling ensemble casts, giving each character a distinct voice while weaving long-form, serialized storytelling. That’s exactly what Sonic needs when balancing Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, and the rest without flattening them into one-note archetypes. Weisman also has experience respecting legacy franchises (Spectacular Spider-Man) while adding depth without losing the fun.

Other honorable mentions:

Paul Dini (Batman: The Animated Series) – phenomenal at writing both lighthearted adventures and weighty character beats.

Brandon Auman (TMNT 2012, Rise of the TMNT) – skilled at snappy banter, action, and balancing humor with sincerity.

Jeremy Adams (The Flash comics) – he writes optimistic, heartfelt heroes that still face real stakes, which fits Sonic’s tone.

>>536277426
bullshit new characters are supposed to pique peoples interest with their design and concept.

>>536277706
That's never been what made Sonic stories great.

>>536277786
Where?

>>536277837
Chat GPT is retarded.

IDW is a racket, the entire staff uses IDW as a platform for their brand and politics.

>>536277896
It is what IDW is sorely lacking.

>>536277875
Seems it worked, you are still talking about them.

>>536275905
You want Sonic's faggot-ass to do it?

>>536277743
>It's not happening but if it is happening it's a good thing
I said the intent behind it. We all know what the intent behind it is and they've been very vocal about it. Don't play dumb libfaggot.

1. Consistent Characterization Across Media & Games
One of the biggest complaints is that Sonic and friends feel like hollow caricatures depending on who’s writing (quippy Sonic in Forces, nothingburger Knuckles in Boom, etc.). Giving the cast a unified “core voice” again—Sonic as cocky but empathetic, Tails as competent not cowardly, Knuckles as serious but not dumb—would stop half the endless arguments.

2. Gameplay Depth Beyond “Boost to Win”
/sthg/ always groans about shallow gameplay. Bringing back multiple playstyles (a la Adventure), or at least depth within Sonic’s own moveset (momentum, exploration, rewarding skill expression) would silence a lot of the “modern Sonic is soulless” complaints. Basically: respect the physics/platforming crowd instead of just spectacle runners.

3. Treat the Story Like It Matters
Not “grimdark,” but give it weight like Adventure 1 & 2. Let characters contribute meaningfully to the plot instead of being cheerleaders for Sonic. Cut down on quips, bring back stakes, and don’t be afraid to mix humor with real drama. Fans in /sthg/ crave something that takes itself just seriously enough to feel ambitious again.

>>536278023
No, its sorely lacking consistency and direction. Which is more emblematic of the massive shifts in focus the series has gone through recently than anything else.

>Sega using AI has made S****y triple down on his AIslop spam
I hate all of you

>>536278179
stop posting your slop

>>536276146
>AI writes something generic

Yet y'all call me a madman.

>>536278292
Okay, I'll remove all instances of AI in the future and pretend like I came up with them so that you idiots will still reply thinking "DURRR no AI so DURRR good post"

Sonic is a failed series. It can be saved but I'm not sure it will. I guess it's better for us to come up with new ideas or just shift to other franchises. Unless you really like Sonic's world and characters like I do. But is that enough to stay a fan when they won't do anything with these elements beyond retreading them endlessly?

>Sonic Boom
Roger Craig Smith the Show

I'VE BEEN WAITING MY WHOLE LIFE FOR JUST A GOOD GAME

ALL HE NEEDED WAS JUST ONE GAME

CAN YOU SEE SEGA DOESN'T HAVE ANY SHAME

I FOUND SEGA STUPIFIED, LACKING QUALITY AGAIN

ALL I WANTED WAS JUST A GOOD GAME

ONE DECENT, AT LEAST MID-LEVEL GAME

AND THIS FRANCHISE IS JUST STRAIGHT OUT FAME

I FOUND SEGA STUPIFIED, LACKING QUALITY AGAIN

>>536277837
>Greg Weisman

Guy used to write good. Used to. Young Justice is a total wash.

I'm just gonna stick Blade of Courage. Seems like IDW really isn't interested in telling an actual story.

It’s wild how some of you still cope about “old Amy” when modern Amy absolutely mogs her past incarnations. She’s not Sonic’s obsessive fangirl anymore, she’s the one holding the group together while Sonic, Knux, and Shadow are busy flexing their egos. Frontiers Amy is basically the team’s heart and conscience, and she’s actually competent instead of a walking punchline.

You can cry about “muh SA1 personality” all you want, but the truth is Amy finally grew up. She’s more important to the story, she has an actual voice beyond “marry me Sonic!!” and she contributes more than Tails did in Forces. Modern Amy > pink Sonic fangirl Amy.

>>536278279
>>536278292
Shut the actual fuck up. The writers deserve to be replaced at this fucking point. They dont fucking deserve working on this franchise.

>>536278568
Superstars did it better with no shitty dialogue

>>536278505
Yes yes you're posting screencaps of replies in your discord for fun we get it
You could at least try a different approach from the underaged "grr I'm angry and yelling!" Since you've done it so many times in this thread already

Nicky T. Hedgehog
with Dave the Intern voice

>>536278567
>I'm just gonna stick Blade of Courage
W-where?

you guys are no fun when you aren't horny, time to slut it up!

>>536278754
I'm not that other anon, I just like making silly, stupid lyrical edits to popular songs.

>>536278809
Yes there is.

>>536278567
>>536278806
*stick to

Bot general

>>536276550
>>536278568
You're the same fuckign guy, aren't you