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Anonymous No.536351853 >>536353929 >>536365425 >>536400637
/fg/ - Falcom General #2393
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>Falcom Games
https://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)
https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL

>Kai MTL patch
https://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z

UPDATED: 21/08
>Ys X: Proud Nordics coming west in early 2026 for Switch 2 and PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjgJnBtV-j4
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter Demo is OUT for PS5, Switch and Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3375780/Trails_in_the_Sky_1st_Chapter/
>New Interviews with Kondo with Estelle and Joshua seiyuus impression on their character roles
https://www.a9vg.com/article/235712
https://dengekionline.com/article/202508/50197
>Trails in the Sky 1st Remake - 50 Minutes of New Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5qHy23_hkA
>The Legend of Heroes: Trails beyond the Horizon New Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQELYrJXO-A
>Trails in the Sky the 1st website UPDATED
https://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/
>Trails beyond the Horizon is coming to Switch 2 and delayed to January 2026
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon-adds-switch-2-version-delayed-to-january-2026-in-the-west
>Ys vs. Trails in the Sky - Character Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlnkFZ4NGI
Anonymous No.536351921
NISA LOST AND IS KEKED
Anonymous No.536352001
>GUNGCHAD
>1 dollar switch 2 upgrade


>NISAKEK
>delay the game by 3 months
>10 dollars MORE expensive than the original version for Switch 2
HA HA HA
Anonymous No.536352117
Anonymous No.536352206 >>536352261 >>536352278 >>536352296 >>536353238 >>536387627
Nearly all the females in sky remake just has an empty void under their skirts, it's gonna be tough to model panties or nude mods on female characters if they don't have anything modelled in that area. Any nude mods for Estelle will have to be "painted" on those spandex shorts.
I assume Scherazard is the only one with panties that I can find because her side skirt has a slit in it so it'd look awkward with spandex shorts on but when Scherazard is wearing an DLC outfit with a skirt, she'll have those.
Anonymous No.536352234 >>536352375 >>536352661
>>536351760
They aren't involved because they've got no direct connection to the Rivalries. In Kai, Rean and Kevin have clear reasons. And we all know you'd be shitting your pants in rage if the Spriggans were forced to tag along with Rean doing his business, etc. Rufus has no route, too, because he's got nothing he needs to do. Basically, Rean and Kevin are far more important to Calvard than Lloyd was to Cold Stee (until Reverie).
Anonymous No.536352261
>>536352206
Falcom finally sold out their last bit of soul.
Anonymous No.536352278 >>536352403 >>536352489 >>536353716
>>536352206
Anonymous No.536352296 >>536352342
>>536352206
Well Sky is for little kids
Calvard is the mature arc for men
Anonymous No.536352327 >>536356274 >>536356321
>Still don't know anything about McBurn and the Demons
>Even though Kuro one had the demon niggas
did Falcom forget
Anonymous No.536352342
>>536352296
>mature
Anonymous No.536352348 >>536352431
Anonymous No.536352375 >>536352490 >>536352579
>>536352234
>And we all know you'd be shitting your pants in rage if the Spriggans were forced to tag along with Rean doing his business, etc.
No? You'd actually get to see the characters interact this way which one of the appeals of the entire series. The routes take away from that.
Anonymous No.536352390
You're meant to leave the melties on the previous general as a gesture of goodwill and decorum
Start a different one if you still feel like arguing and insulting strangers over niche video game opinions
Anonymous No.536352403 >>536352431 >>536353117
>>536352278
who the fuck is that
Anonymous No.536352431 >>536352628
>>536352403
meant for>>536352348
Anonymous No.536352489 >>536352856
>>536352278
/fg/ dooming over nothing as usual
Anonymous No.536352490 >>536352579 >>536352606
>>536352375
>No
Yes. I know how you faggots act. You were melting down when interviews said he'd be in the game before routes were even confirmed.
Anonymous No.536352579
>>536352490
>>536352375
Anonymous No.536352606 >>536352995
>>536352490
Lol. Okay if you're just gonna have imaginary arguments with yourself and the voices in your head instead of based on anything I said then just do that and stop involving me.
Anonymous No.536352628
>>536352431
why are you trying to give yourself (you's) you complete bellend. Are you really that starved for attention that you feel the need to tag other unreleated posts and then pretend they are meant to reply to your own posts.

Go outside, maybe you'll actually make a friend.
Anonymous No.536352661 >>536352995
>>536352234
Nta. Kevin wasn't even supposed to be there. His addition was late in the game and was base on a popularity contest

>And we all know you'd be shitting your pants in rage if the Spriggans were forced to tag along with Rean doing his business,

Speak for yourself. A chapter with Rean us better a full route with him. It would be the other way around. You would be raging that Rean would just be a guest and follows Van.
Anonymous No.536352707 >>536353154
Look at it from the other perspective:
>Rean did his due
>Wants to retire
>Is forced to work more to save the franchise from Calvradslop
Anonymous No.536352721
If Falcom doesn't care, why should I. Now I don't and I'm happier for it.
Anonymous No.536352856
>>536352489
I literally scanned the entire city outside for any female npcs with panties and the count was 0, Granted I only checked Scherarzard in the guild who was inside but didn't check other buildings
Anonymous No.536352861 >>536353336
i dont mind giving them credit where its due because it does feel like they actually cared when making the sky remake but yeah i dont care about calvard anymore when its clear they just dont give a shit
Anonymous No.536352995 >>536353085
>>536352606
Concession accepted.
>>536352661
>You would be raging that Rean would just be a guest and follows Van.
I'd be fine with or without him in the game. You got what you wanted and didn't have Rean and co with your beloved fags and you're still complaining. Nothing will satisfy you unless they pause everything so you can see Qurate getting new meds.
Anonymous No.536353085 >>536353167
>>536352995
You already lost when you started arguing with yourself about shit I never said.
Anonymous No.536353093 >>536353282 >>536353332 >>536353363
They're already making an underwear mod for her
Anonymous No.536353117 >>536353208
>>536352403
Anonymous No.536353154
>>536352707
>Bean self-sacrificing again
He still hasn't learned his lesson...
Anonymous No.536353167 >>536353198
>>536353085
You're a newfag that wasn't here. What a surprise!
Anonymous No.536353198 >>536353462
>>536353167
How many times are you gonna shift the goalposts lmao.
Anonymous No.536353208 >>536353296
>>536353117
the little girl who is friends with Luke and that other kid?
Anonymous No.536353231 >>536353294
What are we having a metly for now
Anonymous No.536353238 >>536353432
>>536352206
>it's gonna be tough to model panties or nude mods on female characters if they don't have anything modelled in that area
Not an issue for nude mods, they just replace the entire body from below the neck. For upskirts, you'll have to transplant the missing part in from another body and add proper bone weights so animations still work, but it's nothing super difficult.
Anonymous No.536353282 >>536354024
>>536353093
>Laura-tier boobs
Anonymous No.536353294
>>536353231
ASOkids still upset the entire series isn't dedicated solely to the ASO
Anonymous No.536353296
>>536353208
Yes
Anonymous No.536353332
>>536353093
they made estelle way to sexy it's gonna be weird when olivier calls her ugly now
Anonymous No.536353336
>>536352861
The demo is shockingly good considering their recent output. Almost makes me think they didn't make it. As for Calvard yea it's pretty much over for me, too.
Anonymous No.536353363
>>536353093
>No hair down Estelle mods
It's over
Anonymous No.536353432 >>536353634
>>536353238
That'd mean the proportions won't be accurate though.
Anonymous No.536353445 >>536354253
Why doesn't estelle have an inner demon?
She's so lame
Anonymous No.536353458 >>536353650 >>536354825 >>536361889 >>536374241 >>536405169 >>536407879 >>536408509
Falcombros... The Feminists are coming for us... I don't feel so good...
Anonymous No.536353462 >>536353502
>>536353198
Use your eyes and maybe learn English.
Anonymous No.536353502 >>536353598
>>536353462
You clearly just want the last word and you don't really care what it is. You're absolutely pathetic.
Anonymous No.536353552
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.536353598
>>536353502
Wrong. You clearly were not here back then. So relax faggot.
Anonymous No.536353634
>>536353432
That's up to the modder. They can sculpt the transplant to match the recipient if they want to.
Anonymous No.536353650 >>536353863 >>536353867 >>536353889
>>536353458
we aren't living in the 00s anymore, we've moved on and the language used back then is outdated and sexist.
My grandparents used to say niggers, parents said coloured and we say black and the zoomers say african american or whatever
Anonymous No.536353696 >>536353718 >>536353820 >>536353849
Will Sky 1st remind Falcom that this series actually used to be good?
Anonymous No.536353716
>>536352278
Cel shaded butt.....uoh.....
Anonymous No.536353718
>>536353696
Lol, lmao even. No
Anonymous No.536353784
i think i will play with the english dub
Anonymous No.536353820
>>536353696
That's a weird way of asking for Rean cameos
Anonymous No.536353849
>>536353696
Let's ask Kondo
https://x.com/GungHo_America/status/1958893593566830833?t=PYUJCcRiUP-F1_14L0z49w&s=19
Anonymous No.536353863 >>536354073
>>536353650
Go back to r/falcom femoid.
Anonymous No.536353867 >>536354073
>>536353650
I don't want to be niggerfied anon... I'm scared...
Anonymous No.536353878 >>536354175
Sky remake hopefully reminds Falcom that an interconnected map and organic storyline is still the best. They've been doing Gartenshit to bypass the exploration part of the game and doors/daydreams to spoonfeed you cutscenes and not worry weaving them naturally. I can see them getting addicted to slop and have the next arc just be Gartenshit and just unlocking charactes and veiwing cutscenes as prizes.
Anonymous No.536353889 >>536354073
>>536353650
Fuck off Floofy.
Anonymous No.536353929
>>536351853 (OP)
The nefarious mushroom plan is gone. why must you do this to us
Anonymous No.536354024 >>536355607
>>536353282
B to C cups.
Anonymous No.536354073
>>536353863
>>536353867
>>536353889
I'm just a regular anon, I am not floofy or a redditfag.
I'm just merely stating facts, whether they are right or wrong.
Anonymous No.536354175
>>536353878
yeah in the newer games it just feels like they've cut waaaaay too many corners in terms of storytelling and world exploration and its seriously affecting the quality of the games
this is what i imagine kondo means when he says they've become too accustomed to making the series. they've just settled into a routine where they just do what is easiest for them instead of what makes the game a satisfying experience. whether they actually learn from it is another thing though.
Anonymous No.536354253 >>536354426 >>536354912
>>536353445
Because she's fodder, canonically a B rank bracer. She's also kind of a crappy martial artist. Still stronger than Lloyd.
Anonymous No.536354426 >>536357215
>>536354253
>Still stronger than Lloyd
Anonymous No.536354439
Ester has competition
Anonymous No.536354496
i only played the demo for 2 hours cause i wanna savor the kino for when it actually releases
Anonymous No.536354547 >>536415503
Has anyone found more secret areas apart from the cave on Eliza highway?
Anonymous No.536354551
Aaron:
>solved his past trauma
>solved his family issues
>broke free from Heiyue
>conquered Taikun
>moved out of Langport to start a new life
>learned to be a caring and responsible friend
>left his selfishness behind

Laura:
>Likes swords
>discovers her middle name
>REALLY likes swords

And ASOkids will demand a 4th game about Aaron
Anonymous No.536354686 >>536354724
wow how dare the current cast be the focus of the arc, they should just be npcs instead while le based rean solves the entire plot am i right
Anonymous No.536354724
>>536354686
Yes.
Anonymous No.536354825 >>536354939 >>536403105
>>536353458
Femoids always ruin everything.
Anonymous No.536354843
wow how dare Falcom attempt to drive the main plot forward, they should just remain in Edith forever while le wholesome ASO does Christmas shopping
Anonymous No.536354912 >>536354994 >>536355056
>>536354253
Bracer rank is garbage though. Estelle and Joshua have mulitple world saving and sept terrion meeting resume and they have the same rank as Alvis.
Anonymous No.536354921 >>536355221
CSonly here
Estelle wields a staff so she's an Arts caster obviously
Her Dad and Rean are martialGODs that can move faster than a bullet but Estelle gives "wise girl" vibes. She 100% prefers well-thought approaches to just slashing! Double that since it's how her father prefers it! He undeniably taught her how to play chess!
Anonymous No.536354939 >>536355115
>>536354825
Go back to /pol/, this is for discussing falcom games not politics.
Anonymous No.536354994 >>536355482
>>536354912
Estelle had help though, she even admits she's not as capable as a real A or S rank bracer
Anonymous No.536355056 >>536355716
>>536354912
Joshua wasn't a bracer when they dealt with the Aureole and Loewe.
Anonymous No.536355075
Daybreaker here
Is Sky 1st the next arc? This Estella girl seems cheerful
Anonymous No.536355115
>>536354939
Not about politics, about Falcom censoring their game for the sake of femoids in Japan and the west.
Anonymous No.536355221 >>536355334 >>536359868
>>536354921
Estelle is better with arts than Rean.
Anonymous No.536355334 >>536355475
>>536355221
You need high IQ to use arts
Anonymous No.536355475
>>536355334
No, you need to rub the squiggly lines a certain way. Like playing a musical instrument.
Anonymous No.536355482 >>536355759
>>536354994
Doesn't matter. It's an impressive enough resume that having help doesn't diminish it. Sept terrions are mythical beings. Saving the world is self explanatory. What does your average B or A rank bracer has that's remotely close to that?
Anonymous No.536355603
Joshua should be A rank at least. Maybe you need to actually be really strong for anything above B rank.
Anonymous No.536355604
actually true
Thats why Kloe and Olivier are good at arts
Anonymous No.536355607 >>536355714
>>536354024
>C
lol
Anonymous No.536355623 >>536355738 >>536355878
are estelle and joshua still b rank as of 1209
Anonymous No.536355714 >>536368838
>>536355607
T-They're supposed to be C cups.
Anonymous No.536355716
>>536355056
Yeah If someone like Yun Ka Fai or Victor decides to becomes a bracer, I'm sure they won't consider their past accomplishments.
Anonymous No.536355738
>>536355623
Yes, as far as we know.
Anonymous No.536355759
>>536355482
It DOES matter. Which is why she's not been promoted further. The canon contradicts your personal opinion and you are going to have to learn to deal with that.
Anonymous No.536355789 >>536355897 >>536356080
SkyGODS? won
LoopCHADS? also won
NISAkeks? lost to $1
XSneed? erased & lost forever
Anonymous No.536355805 >>536355867 >>536355879 >>536356067 >>536356692
>save the world multiple times
>b rank
>be a diversity hire
>a rank immediately
bracer guild sucks
Anonymous No.536355867
>>536355805
Calvard needed a whyte wymn who can LARP as a girlboss even though she just wants big ban cock
Anonymous No.536355875
Fufu...
Anonymous No.536355878
>>536355623
If they had made A we'd have heard about it as that'd beat Elaine's record, she got A at 23 years old.
Anonymous No.536355879
>>536355805
Well, Estelle and Joshua *are* from Liberl so it makes sense.
Anonymous No.536355891 >>536355942 >>536356003
Just pointing out it's been over 20 years since FC and still have no idea who the other S-Rank bracers are besides Cassius (And Zin)
Anonymous No.536355897 >>536357678
>>536355789
Geofront bros we're not even worth a shitpost...
Anonymous No.536355942 >>536356153 >>536356219
>>536355891
20 years since FC and we still know absolutely nothing about the Bracer Guild besides the fact that it exists.
Anonymous No.536355951
>diversity hire le BAD
>nepobaby le GOOD
lmao
Anonymous No.536356003
>>536355891
Arnold Evans is a S-rank bracer
Anonymous No.536356067 >>536356601
>>536355805
I think Zin gets the majority of the credit in-universe for the events of FC and SC. That's the vibe I got anyway. Doesn't really make sense but Falcom want to keep Estelle and Joshua unimportant I guess but they should be celebrities after all the shit Nial wrote about them.
Anonymous No.536356080 >>536356135 >>536356164
>>536355789
don't you think it's a bit sad having to declare yourself the victor of an imaginary competition
Anonymous No.536356135 >>536356478
>>536356080
>Imaginary
Do we tell him?
Anonymous No.536356153
>>536355942
Not true, we know where their base is and who are their sponsors.
Anonymous No.536356164
>>536356080
>imaginary
Anonymous No.536356189 >>536356313 >>536356715 >>536415828
How will they animate this
Anonymous No.536356219
>>536355942
we only found out who the pope was like 1 game ago haha...
Anonymous No.536356274
>>536352327
McBurn vs McFreeze in 2026 trust the plan
Anonymous No.536356313 >>536356340 >>536356485
>>536356189
Anonymous No.536356321
>>536352327
If McBurn isn't in Kai 2 then you can assume it's another setup game.
Anonymous No.536356340
>>536356313
Sovl....
Anonymous No.536356478
>>536356135
>we
Consulting the voices again, are you?
Anonymous No.536356485 >>536356578 >>536416591
>>536356313
Kuro lost because they didnt have these
Anonymous No.536356540
Na-Chan!
Anonymous No.536356547 >>536356609 >>536356669
Predict melty levels when after Sky 3 Remake they'll jump straight to CS1
Anonymous No.536356578
>>536356485
When Juna hits is hilarious.
Anonymous No.536356601 >>536356720 >>536356996 >>536357341
>>536356067
Rean is the only one allowed to have celebrity status. Calvard military literally gave him a standing ovation. Falcom desperately wants the CSfag normies who left after CS back.
Anonymous No.536356609 >>536356752 >>536357093 >>536357473
>>536356547
nigga no one wants to go back to crossbell city
Anonymous No.536356669
>>536356547
i couldnt care less about any post-sky remake
Anonymous No.536356692
>>536355805
Wasn't that a Calvard specific issue? But yea, why'd the guild allow that?
Anonymous No.536356715
>>536356189
going by the animation quality in Sky 1st it will actually look really fucking good
Anonymous No.536356720
>>536356601
That's okay, everyone knows everyone. There's no need for celebrity status.
Anonymous No.536356752
>>536356609
>He doesn't want CS3 remake
???
Anonymous No.536356789
They're gonna keep delaying kai 2 until they remade everything up to cs2
Anonymous No.536356806 >>536356884
I haven't played kuro yet so do we get any new S rank bracers or that shit is irrelevant now
Anonymous No.536356819
Estelle and Joshua didn't save the world lmao their deeds amount to turning electricity back on after a power outage
Anonymous No.536356884
>>536356806
They name drop the leader of the guild. Zin might become S rank. That's it
Anonymous No.536356901 >>536357028
i need a crossbell remake so we can do randy justice in 3D. CS3 fucked up his model and turned him into a weird unc instead of a suave motherfucker
Anonymous No.536356980 >>536357132
Here's your S rank bracer bro
Anonymous No.536356996
>>536356601
Pretty sad what this series became. It was great because there was never any one "true" protagonist of the series but after CS1/2 Falcom increasingly wanked Rean off to the point that he's now the most main character of the main characters and they constantly do everything possible to elevate him above everyone else.
Anonymous No.536357028
>>536356901
They got Tio right. But Randy's hair is shit!!!
Anonymous No.536357093 >>536357182
>>536356609
Crossbell arc is winning best arc polls lately, which is ironic because it shares some complaints of being stuck on one citykeven worse because in Calvard you visit other cities) and Cao
Anonymous No.536357112 >>536357215 >>536357316 >>536357317 >>536357394 >>536357986 >>536358147 >>536359313
Estelle:
>Never jobbed
>On equal ground with Rean
>Knows how to use Arts
>Healthy diet
Loyid:
>Jobbing is whats written on his badge
>Rean forgets he existed after second arc of CS3 ends
>Just screams and charges, that's his fighting tactic
>Fat
Anonymous No.536357132
>>536356980
This nigga was A rank at best in FC and he peaked.
Anonymous No.536357182 >>536357753
>>536357093
Crossbell is also only 2 games long instead of 4. If Crossbell was 4 games long then you're damn right I'd bitch about it as much as I bitch about Edith. Even when they brought it back in CS3 I was sick to death of it by Reverie but at least in those games you don't spend the majority of the game in the city like you do in Edith.
Anonymous No.536357215
>>536357112
>Never jobbed

>>536354426
Anonymous No.536357316
>>536357112
>Estelle
>never jobbed
She jobbed to the Glorious.
Anonymous No.536357317
>>536357112
>>Just screams and charges, that's his fighting tactic
He's just like me frfr
Anonymous No.536357341
>>536356601
Osborne would never do this
Anonymous No.536357394 >>536357528
>>536357112
Lloyd has shounen hero powescaling though. If he fights Rean today, I can see Falcom making them fight in equal footing. Estelle would just lose.
Anonymous No.536357473
>>536356609
I want a cuckbell remake
Anonymous No.536357474 >>536357534 >>536357760 >>536357760 >>536357764
Why are Skyfans so combative
Ever since the demo dropped they've been insulting every single arc
Anonymous No.536357528 >>536357646 >>536357825
>>536357394
>shonen hero powerscaling
Has Lloyd won a single fight by himself?
Anonymous No.536357534
>>536357474
the only arc fans who dont insult every other arc are crossbellfags and thats because they barely exist
Anonymous No.536357540
Anonymous No.536357591 >>536357756
>Have to wait another game to get Renne
Why didn't the retcon 1st to include Renne...
Anonymous No.536357646 >>536357827
>>536357528
He beat Noel and claimed her for himself until the end of time
Anonymous No.536357678
>>536355897
they got sucked into NISA's ass so
Anonymous No.536357753 >>536357930 >>536357969
>>536357182
They should follow Yakuza's formula. Nobody is sick with Kamurocho because it's basically more of a character than a location. Every corner having shops and minigames helps as well.
Anonymous No.536357756
>>536357591
I'm not sure I can handle more Renne. At least she won't be a hag.
Anonymous No.536357760
>>536357474
>>536357474
Sky: good
Cuckbell: good
Crap Steel: sometimes good
Cringevard: rarely good
Anonymous No.536357764 >>536357826 >>536357893
>>536357474
Nobody insults Erebonia itt. Rean is universally loved.
Anonymous No.536357825
>>536357528
He singlehandedly brought Eldergod KeA back from nothingness.
Anonymous No.536357826 >>536357898
>>536357764
CS2 and CS4 exist bro...
Anonymous No.536357827
>>536357646
Oh yeah, I remember now. It was the straight version of Rean claiming his bf in CS4.
Anonymous No.536357893 >>536358004
>>536357764
Rean board, newfags
Anonymous No.536357898
>>536357826
Most important Rean games according to NISA!
Anonymous No.536357930
>>536357753
kamurocho actually has shit to do in it and they constantly switch it up between games
theres fucking nothing to do in falcom cities
Anonymous No.536357969
>>536357753
They should, but they can't even add pom pom party back into the games, so it'll never happen. They also removed the model viewer from Reverie for literally no reason.
Anonymous No.536357986
>>536357112
>>Just screams and charges, that's his fighting tactic
He's shounen core
Anonymous No.536358004
>>536357893
no that's /vrpg/, rean is the kinq...
Anonymous No.536358106 >>536358160 >>536358357 >>536358762 >>536359265
i am not a big fan of Rean but you gotta admit most people outside of the hardcore fans know who's the hahaman more than any other trails characters
Anonymous No.536358147 >>536358281
>>536357112
She needs prem time....she CANT WIN!!!!!!
Anonymous No.536358160 >>536358610
>>536358106
only because reantards spammed their shitty unfunny memes for years like a bad sneed knockoff
Anonymous No.536358274 >>536358343
I need to know a critical piece of information:
Does Sky 1st feature scanning enemies again?
Anonymous No.536358281 >>536358542 >>536359101
>>536358147
She's like batman. Batman can kill anyone with enough preptime.
Cassius can 1v1 even against McBurn with a YEAR of preptime. His daughter can 1v1 Rean with roughly 2 years of preptime!
Anonymous No.536358343 >>536358447 >>536358607
>>536358274
No. Why would you ever want that shit back? Sky never even had to it to begin with anyway they added that crap in Crossbell. It did bring back descriptions of the enemies in the notebook though.
Anonymous No.536358357 >>536359159
>>536358106
I say haha in outside fg.....it's over
Anonymous No.536358447 >>536358565
>>536358343
Sky had the Information quartz, and I enjoy scanning enemies
Anonymous No.536358480 >>536359159
>Say haha in public
>Nobody recognizes the reference
>"What's so funny?"
I hate talking to normies, bros
Anonymous No.536358542
>>536358281
Anonymous No.536358565
>>536358447
The information is recorded automatically though regardless of whether you use the quartz or not. It's only in Crossbell that they made it manual busywork.
Anonymous No.536358607
>>536358343
scanning enemies are old school jrpg kino though!
Anonymous No.536358610 >>536358849
>>536358160
So why don't you show us your cool funny Van memes instead?
Anonymous No.536358720
haha.....
Anonymous No.536358760
Holy FUCK I can read the newspapers again.....thank you Kondo-san
Anonymous No.536358762 >>536358805 >>536358959
>>536358106
before starting trails, I always thought he was THE main character of the entire series
I thought Estelle was a quirky genki female side character that got her own spin-offs
Lloyd was an timid amateur rookie cop who got his own spin-offs
Van was an unreliable older guy/uncle side character that got his own spin-offs
I genuinely thought Rean was the center of everything
Anonymous No.536358805 >>536358959
>>536358762
He is and Falcom made it that way.
Anonymous No.536358849
>>536358610
Anonymous No.536358910 >>536358979
Scanning adds tension and strategy to the battle, you can try to gamble or you can use up a turn to scan the enemy and figure out a strategy
But I can't expect people that praise free movement during combat to understand the positives of nuanced and complex combat
Let's just move the toon behind the enemy to hit the cool back positional for 10% extra damage, let's do it every single turn for free haha so much fun I am strategizing
Anonymous No.536358959
>>536358762
The main character is actually FIE as she's apparently in Sky 1st.....kneel....
>>536358805
His daughter-wife is now the hero...ine....
Anonymous No.536358963
There is literally nothing complex about scanning, it's just busywork for collectorbrained troons.
Anonymous No.536358979 >>536359049
>>536358910
Who are you talking to schizo
Anonymous No.536359000
is nightmare way harder in sky 1st remake? I played cs to kuro 2 in nightmare and I am getting shat on by this tower monster where they keep hitting the NPC. what the fuck
Anonymous No.536359049
>>536358979
your absentee father
Anonymous No.536359082 >>536359323 >>536359709 >>536422548
Anonymous No.536359101
>>536358281
kek
Anonymous No.536359107 >>536359274
Tell your mother she's good in bed
Anonymous No.536359147 >>536359407 >>536377056
>There is literally nothing complex about scanning, it's just busywork for collectorbrained troons.
Anonymous No.536359159
>>536358357
>>536358480
... That's our Rean!
Anonymous No.536359265 >>536359456
>>536358106
I would argue Estelle would be more recognizable for normies, especially now. Mostly because his design is the generic japanese teenage kirito clone.
Anonymous No.536359274
>>536359107
>mom you're good in bed
>whaaat? how would you know huh?
>haha... just guessing
Anonymous No.536359313 >>536359657
>>536357112
Anonymous No.536359323
>>536359082
Erm, you have the wrong art, their bud.....
Anonymous No.536359359
i dont think being able to move and attack in the same turn is bad (especially since it never really mattered anyway because falcom only ever designed 1% of bosses around it) but i dont like that you can just move through the entire battlefield at the very start of the game you should have to improve your movement stat
Anonymous No.536359407
>>536359147
Joshua if he zoomer
Anonymous No.536359456
>>536359265
There's nothing generic about him, those are rare in the Trails universe. Estelle has apparently never seen anyone with dark hair until Joshua. They're white countries (not Slavic white, actual white).
Anonymous No.536359460 >>536359570 >>536359771 >>536359896 >>536367848 >>536369481
What do we think about the demo
Anonymous No.536359545
We don't do the thinking 'round these parts, bozo
Anonymous No.536359570 >>536359725
>>536359460
It's amazing
Anonymous No.536359623
>Thinking
>/fg/
Anonymous No.536359657 >>536360361
>>536359313
the virgin SU vs the Chad BH3
Anonymous No.536359659 >>536360073 >>536360139 >>536360238 >>536361889 >>536364580 >>536367570
i am not buying if they erased this part
Anonymous No.536359709
>>536359082
Imagine the melty if they teenage Van makes a cameo in third and kid Renne is crushing on him.
Anonymous No.536359725 >>536359990
>>536359570
...ly shit
sorry I hit Post before I was done typing
Anonymous No.536359771
>>536359460
First time I've been actually positive about a Trails game in years. Sure I have some nitpicks but they almost don't even matter. After years of low effort shit in this series it's refreshing to play a game that feels like they actually gave a crap.
Anonymous No.536359868
>>536355221
Rean is one of the most broken arts users in Kiseki.
Anonymous No.536359896
>>536359460
Needs more anti aliasing.
Anonymous No.536359990
>>536359725
I'll remember this
Anonymous No.536360073 >>536360189 >>536368403
>>536359659
If they didn't then falcom is now officially less cucked than Atlus
Anonymous No.536360139
>>536359659
i doubt this will still be in given everything else we've seen
Anonymous No.536360189 >>536360370
>>536360073
Anonymous No.536360232
>no more xseed meme translation
Anonymous No.536360238 >>536360336 >>536360803
>>536359659
>if fanfic isn't in the game then I'm not buying
Good riddance. JP Estelle was never homophobic.
Anonymous No.536360336
>>536360238
>JP Estelle was never homophobic.
WTF, I hate Estelle now!?!?
Anonymous No.536360361 >>536360545
>>536359657
Burning heart legit beats SU in battles in CS. You can stack the effects and duration, add bravery points, control your turn and steal bonuses.
Anonymous No.536360370 >>536360517
>>536360189
Why did Atlus steal Goro from Tokyo Xanadu?
Anonymous No.536360414 >>536360665 >>536360675
Noooooo
Anonymous No.536360517
>>536360370
It was banter
Anonymous No.536360545 >>536360623
>>536360361
I think it's implied that the STR Up is way higher with SU and that they're only balanced for gameplay purposes, but then you have Lloyd kicking the shit out of CS2 Rean. kek
Anonymous No.536360623 >>536360991 >>536361186
>>536360545
Lloyd didn't even make Rean tired in that fight though.
Anonymous No.536360665
>>536360414
I somehow miss this Estelle. She looks scrappy and rough.
Anonymous No.536360675
>>536360414
Do we like this picture
Anonymous No.536360791 >>536360981
Hopefully they didnt retain the retarded missable quests like the original
Missing some quests just because you didnt backtrack 2 million steps to the last city was retarded
Anonymous No.536360803
>>536360238
all normal humans are inherently "homophobic" as you like to put it
Anonymous No.536360981
>>536360791
No, Demo shows that everything, including books, are highlighter now.
Anonymous No.536360991 >>536373827
>>536360623
Didn't he force him to summon Valimar?
Anonymous No.536361186
>>536360623
>Lloyd didn't even make Rean tired in that fight though.
Yeah that was Altina's doing haha!
Anonymous No.536361889
>>536359659
See >>536353458
They are erasing it even in Japanese.
Anonymous No.536361969
CS1 field trips were kino
too bad the fucked that up in CS3
Anonymous No.536362167 >>536362837
i hope sc remake carries over the levels from fc remake
constantlt resetting everyones levels in the new games is so soulless
Anonymous No.536362837
>>536362167
Estelle starts at like level 38-42 in SC.
Anonymous No.536363419
can’t believe the final boss of kai was also the first enemy in sky
Anonymous No.536364016 >>536364391 >>536364615
Anonymous No.536364391
>>536364016
How the fuck you parse a string so 2 words randomly switch positions?!
Anonymous No.536364580 >>536364703
>>536359659
I'm not buying Shite 1st period
Anonymous No.536364615
>>536364016
how did he become a house
Anonymous No.536364703 >>536365005
>>536364580
You're not clever.
Anonymous No.536364818 >>536365594
W-Whore!
Anonymous No.536365005
>>536364703
I'm just saying that i'm not buying Shite 1st
Anonymous No.536365151 >>536365574 >>536365617 >>536365818 >>536438391
Why doesn't estelle have her own harem just like lloyd, rean and vaan?
Anonymous No.536365425
>>536351853 (OP)
>Be me
>Release the fans' dream game with same day western release
>Ungrateful American peasants unappreciative
Apologize.
Anonymous No.536365574
>>536365151
Because monogamy is based
Anonymous No.536365594
>>536364818
Little... boy............
Anonymous No.536365617
>>536365151
There's a guy from Raven who has hots for Estelle. Literally me btw
Anonymous No.536365818 >>536366710
>>536365151
Who says she doesn't? Olivier gets a crush on her in SC, Joshua falls for her, one of the two brats from Rolent are into her, a delinquent is into her and Analace wants to eat her carpet. She became sexy in SC.
Anonymous No.536365898
We need a spinoff Calvard game from his perspective.
Anonymous No.536365926 >>536366074
Wait guys was reverie an unplanned game? Or did falcom always intend to make a game like it when they were developing cs4? I think in some interview Kondo mentions they planned to make a Crossbell epilogue when making cs4
Anonymous No.536366074 >>536366446
>>536365926
Afaik Kondo was talking about finishing loose ends before moving into the next arc. So I guess they did plan for hajimari after sen 4.
Anonymous No.536366390
Why is the Sky 1st Hard mode actually hard? I had to use items on the way to the Esmelas Tower when surrounded by like 7 mobs.
Anonymous No.536366446 >>536366995
>>536366074

So do you think this comment I found online is true?

β€œReverie was an unplanned game used the bridge the time between CS4 and Daybreak 1, and the story greatly reflects it (monster of the week that doesn't change the status quo at all). A "filler game", as certain people might say. The 3rd is basically identical in this sense (why does Phantasma even exist).

This isn't to say filler games are automatically bad though.β€œ
Anonymous No.536366710 >>536366808
>>536365818
damn all literal whos
Anonymous No.536366808
>>536366710
Fitting for a B rank bracer's harem.
Anonymous No.536366846
I loathe and abhor women (not gay tho)
Anonymous No.536366995 >>536367481
>>536366446
>So do you think this comment I found online is true?
How the fuck would I know if some random comment is true or not? Read Kondo's interviews post Sen 4 release if you want more info, but I assume they started planning for Hajimari after Sen 4, similar with Kuro. They only had a rough outline of Calvard and they only started planning out the setting after sen 4 was done. I think in Kuro visual collection interview Kondo that Van was the first thing they came up with, but he originally was planned to be an ouroboros member but they scrapped the idea really fast because it wouldn't fit the tone they were going for Calvard.
Anonymous No.536367481
>>536366995
So you believe that reverie wasn’t an unplanned game and the comment I posted believed that it was an unplanned game after cs4, I agree with you and think falcom did plan to make it.
Anonymous No.536367570
>>536359659
please don't take her away!
Anonymous No.536367686
Anonymous No.536367696 >>536368175 >>536368838
Estelle hates fags and queers
Anonymous No.536367848
>>536359460
We're back
Anonymous No.536367889
Is there English Patch for PROUD NORDICS CLE?
Anonymous No.536368175 >>536368838
>>536367696
Chat is this real
Anonymous No.536368403
>>536360073
They are already cucked for censoring their original script and adding black void censorship and spats to hide pantsu.
Anonymous No.536368640 >>536370000
Robo pussy
Anonymous No.536368838 >>536368926
>>536368175
>>536367696
Not true, Estelle is spiritually /lgbt/. Look at Estelle molesting this underage girl >>536355714
Anonymous No.536368926
>>536368838
yuri doesn't coint, but she is anti-fags
Anonymous No.536369481
>>536359460
Nisa keeps taking Ls
Anonymous No.536370000 >>536370086
>>536368640
Why put tits on a robot?
Anonymous No.536370086
>>536370000
visionaries
Anonymous No.536370193
Happy Weissmann, happy me. Love how Alba-sama looks. Some minor complaints but I’m happy overall. I will make him wear lewd outfits or none at all with mods. Hot Professor Alba and /fg/ seething over mild β€œcensorship” is a good combination. Me and my bf are having lots of fun playing it together.
Anonymous No.536370301 >>536370381 >>536370397 >>536370634 >>536370991
Made for breeding
Anonymous No.536370381 >>536370564
>>536370301
That outfit is retarded.
Anonymous No.536370397 >>536370687
>>536370301
Should've been an unlockable
Anonymous No.536370564
>>536370381
it's very practical
Anonymous No.536370634 >>536370895 >>536370996 >>536372020 >>536377520
>>536370301
I haven't played Van's games. Did Renne get stronger or did she literally peak as an 11 year old?
Anonymous No.536370687
>>536370397
It can be unlocked in Kai in the Garten. So it's kinda free there.
Anonymous No.536370895 >>536371736
>>536370634
It feels like she got weaker, but she is still a perfect brain and brawn.
Anonymous No.536370991
>>536370301
Anonymous No.536370996
>>536370634
Estelle just look at the way she dresses, why did you raise her that way
Anonymous No.536371298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX0EpOifNGw
Anonymous No.536371565
I wish there was a kiseki girl for guys like me...
Anonymous No.536371736
>>536370895
She said she was rusty in the CS4 intro at like 14 years old. My headcanon was that since those enhanced jaegers required Ouroboros magic drugs regularly, maybe Renne was also injected with some imitation blue pleroma drug and then once she left their organization she started getting weaker. Maybe it'll take lots of training just to get back to where she was as a preteen.
Anonymous No.536371853 >>536371971 >>536371981 >>536372779
I miss PURE turn-based gameplay
Anonymous No.536371971 >>536372594
>>536371853
That's archaic garbage, people only tolerate it in Persona because of the flashy top tier animations and school harem aspect.
Anonymous No.536371981
>>536371853
You can still do that, just activate it as soon you encounter an enemy.
Anonymous No.536372020
>>536370634
>Did Renne get stronger
She had pater mater and she was broken enough to not care about killing. Current Renne is like a cute little kitten.
Anonymous No.536372594
>>536371971
Cocksucker
Anonymous No.536372779
>>536371853
Just enter turn based at the press of a button. You can't even complain about stunning enemies being mandatory anymore since sky remake doesn't have shard skills so the benefits of stunning aren't that great.
Anonymous No.536373030 >>536373296
i cant tell if the sky dub is ai generated
Anonymous No.536373296 >>536373509
>>536373030
it's shit, estelle sounds horrible
Anonymous No.536373509 >>536373706
>>536373296
to me it just sounds like all the words were recorded separately and spliced together
Anonymous No.536373706 >>536374441
>>536373509
just play in jp, even though it's inferior to the evo voices it's miles better than whatever gung-ho made, as much as i like Johnny Yong Bosch he doesn't really fit as Joshua either
Anonymous No.536373827
>>536360991
He summoned Valimar to destroy the computer.
Anonymous No.536373829 >>536374241
So did the remake just copy and paste the xsneed script?
Anonymous No.536374241 >>536375358 >>536375637 >>536375846
>>536373829
No, it's a censored MTL see >>536353458
But hey, at least it has no cringe "flavor" in the script haha...
Anonymous No.536374441
>>536373706
probably will switch but i wanted to believe, i usually like jyb too
Anonymous No.536375358
>>536374241
Yea I noticed daybreak 1 and 2 tried waaay too hard to insert too many jokes. Jokes are fine but if it’s used too much then it stops being funny. Is the daybreak 1 and 2 head localizer different from other games?
Anonymous No.536375637 >>536376051
>>536374241
That's not censored MTL. That's censored Japanese script.
Anonymous No.536375846
>>536374241
>censored MTL
Praying for an XSEED injection patch. Fan fiction it might be, but as long as it overrides Falcom's censorship I prefer it. Bonus: it will read better than GungHo's ESL shit.
Anonymous No.536376051
>>536375637
Can someone start a thread on STEAM or shit to spread the info? Might snowball to the point that even Falcom notice the discontent over their censorship.
Anonymous No.536376379 >>536377191
Any way to play the Sky remake PC demo without STEAM? I only pirate games so I have no STEAM account.
Anonymous No.536377056
>>536359147
Sheeshua
Anonymous No.536377113 >>536387173
>nisa lost
>xseed lost
>gungho lost
>falcom lost
I won.
Anonymous No.536377191
>>536376379
Why don't you just download STEAM for free? Sadly there's no gog version this time. Which is probably actually inflating the numbers of the demo thinking about it.
Anonymous No.536377234
Holy... fuck... That was intense..!
Musse owns my cock truly...
Anonymous No.536377487
I'm a big fan of STEAM. I use STEAM to play Falcom games.
Anonymous No.536377520 >>536378459 >>536379103
>>536370634
Renne was always weak, it was Pater Mater who packed the punch
Anonymous No.536377604 >>536378685 >>536380572 >>536380693 >>536386526 >>536397575
Proof that we are in a different cycle and that Sky Remake is a sequel to Kai:
This technology should not exist during FC. It was specifically stated in CSI that they had just found a way to refine sepith mass so it's now worth mira.
Anonymous No.536378459
>>536377520
She was stalling Olympia and Melchoir by herself at one point.
Anonymous No.536378685 >>536380572
>>536377604
I know this wasn't their intention but I really hope it's real or Falcom notice this inconsistency and make it canon instead
That way, they can go back and rewrite Crossbell and Erebonia arc in the remakes.
Anonymous No.536378785
I know people will complain about gungho script being stilted or what not but after daybreak 1 and 2 kinda happy to get a more grounded translation where it doesn’t feel like the localizer is trying to make the writing their own comedy writing.
Anonymous No.536378891
Na-chan's rizz...
Anonymous No.536379103 >>536380507
>>536377520
>Renne was always weak
In 3rd she was confident that she could take on like two whole parties of playable characters by herself and behead a handful of them before dying.
Anonymous No.536380020 >>536380096
Haha...
Anonymous No.536380096
>>536380020
Anonymous No.536380507 >>536380719
>>536379103
>Kevin, Richard, Agate and Joshua
She was hard coping
Anonymous No.536380572
>>536377604
>>536378685
>implying falcom gives a fuck
Anonymous No.536380693
>>536377604
Nothing a quick retcon can't fix
Anonymous No.536380719
>>536380507
She wouldn't know about Kevin's stigma but she should know everyone else if she's such a genius.
>Agate
Weaker than Joshua until CS3.
Anonymous No.536380898 >>536382159 >>536386030
Anonymous No.536382159 >>536382486
>>536380898
What did Estelle teach Renne for her to grow up to be such a slut?
Anonymous No.536382486 >>536382872
>>536382159
Nothing because they spent 5 minutes in Liberl before Renne went to Calvard for her contrived cameo and nostalgia baiting.
Anonymous No.536382872 >>536385543
>>536382486
Renne feels even more forced than Rean sometimes in the story. At least Rean was an mc and 8 leaves was foreshadowed. Falcom keeps milking paradise and renne. I guess it’s to remind players about liberl stuff
Anonymous No.536384625 >>536385036 >>536431326
So is the Sky remake a FF7 remake situation that takes place after Kai? Is Kondo that retarded to actually do this?
Anonymous No.536385036
>>536384625
>Is Kondo that retarded to actually do this?
Yes, he is retarded enough to produce kino.
Anonymous No.536385543
>>536382872
More like Renne is the one milking me
Anonymous No.536386030
>>536380898
God muh dick
Anonymous No.536386526
>>536377604
don't forget about all the combat assists and follow ups that weren't present until cold steel which was due to orbaments syncing with eachother. Estelle and Joshua are able to do it right off the bat when they get their orbaments.
Anonymous No.536387173
>>536377113
only thing you've won is a lifetime of solitude and mental torment
Anonymous No.536387627 >>536389210
>>536352206
>alienated the harem fags by removing the harem
>alienated the loli coomers by making Fie, Nadia, Towa and Altina into hags
>alienated coomers by censoring pantsu with black void and/or spats
Kondo: "I wonder what else can I do to loose more fans and customers???"
Anonymous No.536389210 >>536392806 >>536394726
>>536387627
You mean gain more customers? Sky 1st will sell a million copies by itself.
Anonymous No.536389943 >>536455186
Anonymous No.536392806 >>536393307
>>536389210
>Sky 1st will sell a million copies by itself.
Sky 1st is doing worse than the Calvard games in the west based on it basically matching Kuro 1's peak in Steam but with no GoG that should have resulted in a much higher peak meaning that it's doing worse than Calvard's PC ports.
Anonymous No.536393307 >>536393610
>>536392806
*a demo is doing as good as a new arc game
FTFY
Anonymous No.536393392 >>536393504 >>536393893
Should I finish up the Cold Steel games or go back and do the Crossbell ones?
Anonymous No.536393504
>>536393392
Might as well finish what you started first.
Anonymous No.536393610 >>536394024
>>536393307
That's not impressive because demos are free. There's no cost of entry to playing a demo, so it should be even higher.
Anonymous No.536393893 >>536397138
>>536393392
Depends, what Cold Steel games have you played? If only 1 and 2, go with Crossbell. If you've played CS1-CS4 and haven't played Reverie then go with Crossbell. Otherwise try to finish the duology you're in before playing Crossbell.
Anonymous No.536394024
>>536393610
A million copies. Screenshot this post.
Anonymous No.536394726
>>536389210
Gimme some of that copium anon.
Anonymous No.536394786 >>536394976 >>536395171 >>536404538
Went the extra mile to open up all the slots for Estelle just to see what the reward was. Surprise, it's her outfit in Joshua's colors! I suspect the opposite is true for Joshua's reward outfit. Kinda cute though.
Anonymous No.536394976 >>536395775
>>536394786
Twinsies!
Anonymous No.536395171 >>536395775 >>536395954 >>536395978
>>536394786
That's adorable. But how did you get that so early?
Anonymous No.536395775 >>536396225 >>536404538
>>536394976
Honestly she looks nice in it. Still prefer Estelle in reds though.

>>536395171
Took nearly an hour of sepith grinding.
Anonymous No.536395954 >>536396225
>>536395171
Not him but
Anonymous No.536395978 >>536396225
>>536395171
Farm sepith in a secret cave to the right of Bright's house
Anonymous No.536396225 >>536396627
>>536395775
>>536395954
>>536395978
I don't remember that, is this new to the remake?
Anonymous No.536396292 >>536396768 >>536397153
I deeply regret being a trails fan
Anonymous No.536396627
>>536396225
Yeah. I also have Joshua at five slots unlocked from all that grinding.
Anonymous No.536396768
>>536396292
why
Anonymous No.536397138 >>536397349 >>536398910
>>536393893
I finished CS3 three years ago but it's not like I remember anything.
Anonymous No.536397153
>>536396292
>letting a basket weaving forum ruin your fun
skill issue
Anonymous No.536397349
>>536397138
Can someone give this anon the CS3 rundown? You know the one with placeholder.
Anonymous No.536397575
>>536377604
>can use Brave Attacks (Link Attacks) without an ARCUS or Xipha, with the exception that you can only do it off crits or stunning/stunned enemies instead of unbalancing
>can use Brave Attacks off of fucking ARTS and S-Crafts, powercreeping ARCUS
>can use Overdrive (Boost) without a Xipha
>can engage in Command Battles without deploying a Shard (and thus your enemies can't break a nonexistent Shard and force you back into a Quick Battle)
In SC, Estelle will be able to unbalance enemies to do Brave Attacks and be able to use ZOC.
Anonymous No.536397717
>Kai ended on cliffhanger
>remake will end on a cliffhanger
That's my falcom...
Anonymous No.536397834
wish my life ended on a cliffhanger
Anonymous No.536398396
Anonymous No.536398881
i'm kind of disappointed that the combat is basically just kuro instead of trying for something new. its also strange they remove master quarts but leave in all the combat upgrades like the assists and such. its a weird hybrid game instead of trying to be something of its own.
Anonymous No.536398910
>>536397138
I'd play Crossbell and then circle back to CS3. Or a recap video of CS3 at least.
Anonymous No.536399218 >>536399334 >>536399540 >>536399709 >>536399939 >>536399943 >>536403610
Nep Game Maker - Aug 26, 2025
Death end re;Quest: Code Z - Aug 27, 2025
Varlet - Aug 27, 2025
Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter - Sep 9, 2025
Atelier Resleriana: The Red Alchemist & the White Guardian - Sep 25, 2025

Which games should I get, it's a busy 30 days, jrpg sisters...
Anonymous No.536399334
>>536399218
Sky remake comes out September 19th
Anonymous No.536399540
>>536399218
We both know you aren't gonna play any of those, you are too addicted to wasting your days posting here haha...
Anonymous No.536399680 >>536402369
remake was fun
want the full thing even more now
Anonymous No.536399709
>>536399218
Varlet.
Anonymous No.536399939
>>536399218
Sky 1st and atelier will do the best
Anonymous No.536399943
>>536399218
>Resna is coming out that soon
I didn't play the gacha, but I might pick it up because it looks more like classic Atelier. I hated Yumia and couldn't even get past the first few hours.
Anonymous No.536400198 >>536400374
When do I start hyper-shilling Sky 1st? I don't keep up with it since the horse game takes up so much of my time. I gotta get back into trails.
Anonymous No.536400374 >>536400518
>>536400198
Right after you play the demo
Anonymous No.536400518
>>536400374
Or play the full thing instead not being blueballed for a month
Anonymous No.536400637 >>536400875 >>536400894
>>536351853 (OP)
Holy mama! The remake is GOATED!
Anonymous No.536400875 >>536404234 >>536404329
>>536400637
Also
Anonymous No.536400894 >>536401047 >>536404818
>>536400637
Why doesn't Shera-nee wear a bra and let her tits flop around like that?
Anonymous No.536401009 >>536401334
you are now noticing Estelle's subtle chest jiggle too
Anonymous No.536401047
>>536400894
Cause it's HOT!
Anonymous No.536401334
>>536401009
Yeah she does have a little bit of that ENHANCED PHYSICSβ„’
Anonymous No.536402192 >>536402465
The real protagonist of the series
Anonymous No.536402369 >>536404538
>>536399680
Hello Reanafemanon. What did you like the most about it?
Anonymous No.536402465 >>536403101
>>536402192
Actually he's just the side piece of the REAL protagonist.
Anonymous No.536403101
>>536402465
Rean's so lucky.
Anonymous No.536403105 >>536403353 >>536406112
>>536354825
Go back to /pol/ incel.
Anonymous No.536403239 >>536404547
Anonymous No.536403273 >>536403646
Anonymous No.536403353 >>536403849
>>536403105
Incel franchise. We drove the femcels out and we'll do it again.
Anonymous No.536403610
>>536399218
Varlet looks cool
Anonymous No.536403646 >>536404164
>>536403273
Sisters... Rean is so handsome...
Anonymous No.536403660 >>536403843 >>536403851
Anonymous No.536403843
>>536403660
Bed surely is comfy
Anonymous No.536403849 >>536403948
>>536403353
>Trails in the Sky
>incel game
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.536403851
>>536403660
Oof
Anonymous No.536403896
He saw the state of the series
Anonymous No.536403948 >>536403998 >>536405716
>>536403849
Sky is for femcels, but the incels drove the femcels out with Crossbell and Cold Steel.
Anonymous No.536403998 >>536405102
>>536403948
But I only care for Sky.
Anonymous No.536404164
>>536403646
Always~
Anonymous No.536404216 >>536406432
Estelle is supposed to be a chestlet
Anonymous No.536404234
>>536400875
doggystyle
Anonymous No.536404329
>>536400875
Censored trash
Anonymous No.536404538 >>536404941
>>536402369
Aside from just playing in Liberl again, the combat is exceptionally fun and refreshing. Might be a little on the easy side again but it's still very engaging. Cute little details like Estelle's commentary on completed quests in the Bracer Notebook are also a nice touch.

>>536394786
>>536395775
Joshua's reward outfit are Estelle's colors and Schera's are Olivier's colors btw.
Anonymous No.536404547
>>536403239
Look at those hips...
Anonymous No.536404639
Anyone else think it would be funny if Josette and Estelle kissed, haha, like as a joke, haha?
Anonymous No.536404818
>>536400894
That's her culture. Don't be racist.
Anonymous No.536404941 >>536405508
>>536404538
>Might be a little on the easy side
Lying whore. Boss battles are pretty hard on nightmare
Anonymous No.536405102 >>536405551
>>536403998
You either only came back with the remake or stayed because you fantasise about a male anon fucking you silly.
Anonymous No.536405169 >>536405707
>>536353458
I think it's okay for dumb kids to be sexist. The whole point of Luke is that he's a bit of an asshole.
Anonymous No.536405302 >>536405460
>censorship is ok when sky does it
Kek
Anonymous No.536405460 >>536406003
>>536405302
censor this *unzips dick*
Anonymous No.536405508 >>536406140
>>536404941
I mean the boss battles are certainly hardER but Nightmare is supposed to have some challenge. You have way more tools at your disposal now, use them all to your advantage.
Anonymous No.536405551
>>536405102
Yeah remake is the reason.
Anonymous No.536405707 >>536406115 >>536406254
>>536405169
Sexism isn't real. It's a made up concept by feminist activists to instill guilt into men. Like many terms they made up it's existing to brainwash you.
What Luke said was in no way problematic, it doesn't matter if it's a child or a man. Don't get cucked by femoid ideology anon.
Anonymous No.536405716 >>536407775 >>536407782
>>536403948
But Reanasis and Weissmannfujo are here?
Anonymous No.536405967 >>536406481
>thinking remake boss battles are hard
Anonymous No.536406003
>>536405460
There's nothing to censor...
Anonymous No.536406112 >>536406527
>>536403105
No man will fertilize your womb femoid. Your tsudere act won't get you cock. Don't even try. Just be nice to your cats. Pretend they are the kids you will never have.
Anonymous No.536406115
>>536405707
Take a shower, stinky
Anonymous No.536406140 >>536406730
>>536405508
>You have way more tools at your disposal now,
Such as? You know that you're fucked once you get surrounded by a swarm of enemies. Even trash mobs can kill you in 3-4 hits and if you don't have powerful AOE arts you're fucked. There're no more "tools" to deal with it, you're just lying out of your ass cause you're playing on normal like a weak fucking pussy you are. Now suck my dick whore.
Anonymous No.536406254
>>536405707
I disagree.
Anonymous No.536406268
I think they added a couple of stutters where she didn't? I don't know why they'd do that though.
Anonymous No.536406297 >>536407353
Sky remake just emphasizes how bland the world and characters are in Sky
Anonymous No.536406432
>>536404216
Anything under D cups is a chestlet.
Anonymous No.536406481
>>536405967
It's RNG fight desu
Anonymous No.536406509
Sky remake just emphasizes how superior the world and characters are in Sky
Anonymous No.536406527
>>536406112
lol okay
Anonymous No.536406582 >>536406783 >>536438320
my fuarking hero
Anonymous No.536406730 >>536407473
>>536406140
Are you telling me you don't know how to get advantage in the remakes? Even on Nightmare you're taking off a good chunk of health before the battle starts. And when did you get Aerial? Did you even try the grinding cave and Shining Poms? lol.
Anonymous No.536406781 >>536407353
Sky about to sell worse than kai
Anonymous No.536406783
>>536406582
Remnants shit on ouroclowns so hard
Anonymous No.536406882 >>536407353
Estelle will never learn how to please a man
Anonymous No.536406889
>the femanons are better at the game
Haha..m
Anonymous No.536407353 >>536408775
>>536406297
>>536406781
>>536406882
Vankid...
Anonymous No.536407473 >>536409775
>>536406730
>advantage in the remakes
Advantage does little damage against big mobs and bosses you dumb whore. The point is to always manage your turn orders and AOE arts to stun a huge swarm of enemies cause you'll get fucked otherwise. So you're a just a dumb whore who farmed mobs for exp and became over leveled. Post the screenshot of your playthrough and difficulty
Anonymous No.536407689
Calm your tits.
Anonymous No.536407775 >>536407889
>>536405716
>trannies
Anonymous No.536407782
>>536405716
reread the post again, slowly
Anonymous No.536407879 >>536408335 >>536408509
>>536353458
It hasn’t even been a year, Kondo. Not even a year since the man who gave this company its heart and soul left us, and already you’ve gutted his legacy like it was nothing. Do you feel nothing? Do you sleep well at night knowing you’re parading around in the ashes of everything he built, bowing and scraping to your new westoid overlords like some corporate puppet?

Do you really think this is what he would have wanted? To watch you strip the artistry from his games, to see you plaster his life’s work with soulless western sensitivities and shallow western woke ethics? He poured his blood into this company to make it a beacon of Japanese creativity β€” and you, in less than twelve months, have twisted it into a faceless machine, grinding out watered-down products to satisfy investors who can’t even pronounce the name of the man you replaced.

You’re not leading β€” you’re selling out. You’re not honoring his memory β€” you’re spitting on it, trading it for quick profits and applause from people who never cared about this company until you made it safe, bland, and familiar. The world saw him as a visionary. You’re remembered as the man who dragged his vision into the mud and sold the scraps to the highest bidder.

Shame on you, Kondo. His ghost will haunt every hollow decision you make.
Anonymous No.536407889 >>536407986
>>536407775
They are literally the only ones with proof of not being trannies. Now post your cock.
Anonymous No.536407986 >>536408115 >>536408441
>>536407889
what are you one of their faggot simps? KYS
Anonymous No.536407993 >>536408049
You boys will always lose. You may try to resist, but you can't stop yourself from lusting for women. A couple of femanons completely changed this general. When the remake comes out expect for the matriarchy to truly begin.
Anonymous No.536408049 >>536408406
>>536407993
post your breasts
Anonymous No.536408115
>>536407986
Post cock, or admit to being a jealous woman.
Anonymous No.536408157 >>536408220 >>536408645
If I dont like Ys Seven that much should I bother with 8 and on? I loved Ys Origins-Oath but this isn't doing it for me
Anonymous No.536408204
Reminder
Anonymous No.536408220
>>536408157
>I dont like Ys Seven that much
why are you a homosexual?
Anonymous No.536408246 >>536408434 >>536408503
who won? who lost?
Anonymous No.536408335 >>536409137
>>536407879
He was the hero all along...
Anonymous No.536408406 >>536408514
>>536408049
By the end of the first week of First being out, all boys will have posted their cocks for us. You will never get what you want, but we're going to get everything we want.
Anonymous No.536408434
>>536408246
falcomGODS won
anti-falcom subhumans lost and got raped
Anonymous No.536408441
>>536407986
>KYS... the ideal utopia. Once a country so peaceful and prosperous. A country where children were as free as the wind.
Anonymous No.536408503 >>536408598
>>536408246
>who won?
Skychads and somehow femanons.
>who lost?
Vankids and doomposters.
Anonymous No.536408509
>>536353458
>>536407879
was... kato the good guy all along?
Anonymous No.536408514 >>536408921
>>536408406
that's gay, post boobs
Anonymous No.536408598
>>536408503
uh based
Anonymous No.536408628 >>536408759 >>536409106
I won
Anonymous No.536408645
>>536408157
Ys Seven is the worst party Ys game because the gameplay is pretty shit for a good chunk of the game. I'd recommend trying VIII.
Anonymous No.536408759
>>536408628
he will retvrn...
Anonymous No.536408775 >>536408938
>>536407353
Don't care about Van, anon
Anonymous No.536408921 >>536408992
>>536408514
Why would I ever do a silly thing like that? Post your cock like a good boy.
Anonymous No.536408938 >>536409715
>>536408775
Everyone cares about Van, anon.
Anonymous No.536408992 >>536409224 >>536409257
>>536408921
I don't have a cock
Anonymous No.536409106
>>536408628
Here's your prize
Anonymous No.536409137 >>536409921 >>536418226
>>536408335
Unironically. Say about the man what you want, but because of him and his ultra conservative leadership Falcom never focused on western sensitivities or implemented ethics departments or some shit. I bet all the good and based stuff in Falcom games is because he mandated it. He was no villain, he loved his company more than anything. HE protected the Falcom we know. Now that he is dead it's over. And Kondo is the rat who now completely sells it out.
Anonymous No.536409224 >>536409345
>>536408992
Prove it, liar
Anonymous No.536409257 >>536409345
>>536408992
What, you never used it so it fell off? Nice story, post your cock.
Anonymous No.536409324 >>536409386
Thoughts on Enami's Kekua?
Anonymous No.536409345 >>536409694
>>536409224
>>536409257
no, post boobs
Anonymous No.536409386
>>536409324
dyke
Anonymous No.536409565
Vankids are losing it...
Anonymous No.536409646 >>536411236
Anonymous No.536409648
I'm straight but sometimes gay sex feels really good, like it's really nice to let yourself be a slut while some big beastly black man uses your holes for his pleasure
Anonymous No.536409694 >>536409863
>>536409345
You've never getting any pictures of femanons ever again. Now post your cock, loser.
Anonymous No.536409715 >>536410317
>>536408938
You posted the wrong picture, anon. Here, I fixed it for you~
Anonymous No.536409747
I should have expected the Falcom general to be filled with redditors who can't say forbidden words on their website of choice
Anonymous No.536409775
>>536407473
Wait you are saying mobs are too hard but she also was able to EXP farm them? What sense does that make?
Anonymous No.536409863 >>536409959
>>536409694
post boobies m'am
Anonymous No.536409896 >>536410008
Anonymous No.536409921 >>536410119
>>536409137
I bet Unisuga left Falcom not because of Kato but because Kondo treated him like shit. Remember how Kondo even took the award from Sony for best game music, even though this was Unisuga's legacy. Fuck Kondo. Fucking rat.
Anonymous No.536409959 >>536410086
>>536409863
Never, now do the one thing your kind are good for.
Anonymous No.536410008
>>536409896
That's nice but you really need to post your tits Kaedesis
Anonymous No.536410048 >>536431326
'tina love
Anonymous No.536410086 >>536410308
>>536409959
sorry but I am soft right now, post your boobies and I might stand to attention
Anonymous No.536410119
>>536409921
Man I hope Koguchi doesn't leave...
Anonymous No.536410308 >>536410365
>>536410086
I thought you said that you didn't have a cock. But you're obviously rock hard right now as you're talking to a woman so why don't you just post your cock. Think of it as a tribute for me, kay?
Anonymous No.536410317 >>536410750
>>536409715
Hi Eliesis. Did you enjoy the demo?
Anonymous No.536410365 >>536410404 >>536410668
>>536410308
post boobs please
Anonymous No.536410404 >>536431326
>>536410365
Anonymous No.536410593 >>536410686 >>536410690 >>536411086 >>536411137
what went wrong?
Anonymous No.536410668 >>536410824
>>536410365
You're never getting them. Now post your rock hard cock.
Anonymous No.536410686
>>536410593
Crimson Shin killed the momentum.
Anonymous No.536410690 >>536410771
>>536410593
use the nip versions
Anonymous No.536410704
Why do you do this every weekend
Anonymous No.536410750 >>536411093
>>536410317
Didn't play lol
Anonymous No.536410771 >>536410846
>>536410690
retard
Anonymous No.536410824 >>536411014
>>536410668
then no cock for you!
Anonymous No.536410846
>>536410771
use the nip versions
Anonymous No.536411014 >>536411112 >>536411346
>>536410824
You will post it eventually as your inhibitions lower and lower while surrounded by femanons. You could have had a front row seat to /fg/ being transformed into a beautiful place, but you're ruining it for yourself.
Anonymous No.536411086
>>536410593
Kuso 1 was so shit it destroyed the next 2 games' sales
Anonymous No.536411089 >>536411254
>incel trannies ruining the general again
Anonymous No.536411093 >>536411381
>>536410750
You should try it. It's free, lol.
Anonymous No.536411112 >>536411262
>>536411014
okay but can I see your boobs now please
Anonymous No.536411137 >>536411327 >>536411393
>>536410593
>marchen/grim sharten ruined the pacing
>retarded filler plot in kuro 2 that destroyed spriggans' reputation
>route shit
>Van is basically static for 2 games
Anonymous No.536411150
Ahaha...
Anonymous No.536411236
>>536409646
Why'd they retcon him not having a moustache when he was younger?
Anonymous No.536411254
>>536411089
Post gock
Anonymous No.536411262
>>536411112
Never. You're lucky that a femanon wants to look at your cock.
Anonymous No.536411327 >>536411484
>>536411137
Van looks like he takes it up the ass, it turns off male consumers
Anonymous No.536411346 >>536411692
>>536411014
Okay you've had your fun but this is wildly off-topic, please rein it in now.
Anonymous No.536411381
>>536411093
I don't know... The original was boring, I didn't even finish it
Anonymous No.536411393 >>536411693
>>536411137
Rean only had one bad time loop

Ban? Haha....
Anonymous No.536411394
News in 4 months
Anonymous No.536411434 >>536411554 >>536411621 >>536411952
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/511563047/#511705804
Here, have some whore ass
Now calm your tits and/or post cock
Anonymous No.536411484
>>536411327
>sodomite projection
Gross.
Anonymous No.536411498 >>536411612
3 more hours on my /v/ ban and i can finally fuck off from this simp infested hellhole
Anonymous No.536411554 >>536411657
>>536411434
that looks like a boy butt
Anonymous No.536411585
Reminder, Estelle is smarter now
Anonymous No.536411612 >>536411879
>>536411498
what did you do
Anonymous No.536411621 >>536411901
>>536411434
That's a guy lmao
Anonymous No.536411657 >>536411749
>>536411554
Proof?
Anonymous No.536411692
>>536411346
You could make it all go away by posting cock you know...
Anonymous No.536411693 >>536412034 >>536415764
>>536411393
Surely all this humiliation will lead to Van's redemption arc haha...
Anonymous No.536411749 >>536411901
>>536411657
male intuition you might say
Anonymous No.536411789
Anonymous No.536411879 >>536412113
>>536411612
you get banned from /v/ for anything and everything anymore. i wasn't even racist (this time), i just told someone they were choking on nintendo's cock
Anonymous No.536411901
>>536411621
>>536411749
If you're so sure you should prove it.
Anonymous No.536411952 >>536412096
>>536411434
I paid a Singaporean transvestite 20 bucks through fiverr for this picture 7 months ago and this one guy is still obsessing over an imaginary girl lol
Best 20 bucks I've ever spent
Anonymous No.536412034 >>536412329
>>536411693
Yes, it will lead to Van and Shizuna's 2 hour long sex scene in Kai 2 :)
Anonymous No.536412096 >>536412303
>>536411952
Show the receipt, liar, or post your cock
Anonymous No.536412113
>>536411879
it's a nintendo cult board and the mods help enforce that
Anonymous No.536412136 >>536412310
My cock is only for reana
Anonymous No.536412292
Anonymous No.536412303 >>536412521
>>536412096
Post your feet on top of a Falcom game first so I know you're a true fan
Anonymous No.536412310 >>536412736
>>536412136
Post your cock, dummy.
Anonymous No.536412320
Falcom really love their age gap fetish
Anonymous No.536412329
>>536412034
Kaedesis you need to post tits RIGHT NOW or else Kai 2 will be delayed for more remakeslop! Do it, the sanctity of Van's arc depends on it!
Anonymous No.536412521 >>536412603
>>536412303
Coward. Just like all the other alleged "men" here.
Anonymous No.536412594
mhmmm Van's cum...
Anonymous No.536412603
>>536412521
Post your fucking feet on top of a Falcom game, whore
Anonymous No.536412736
>>536412310
What's it like becoming so obsessed with a whore that posted her small tits on the internet that you think you need to be her?
Anonymous No.536412745 >>536412896
I wanna be cucked so bad bros
Anonymous No.536412829 >>536413116
you guys really lost it over the remake being fun huh?
Anonymous No.536412856 >>536412939 >>536413192
Uh-oh
Anonymous No.536412896 >>536413003
>>536412745
That's an indication you should be dead.
Anonymous No.536412939 >>536413003
>>536412856
Diaper fetish faggots like this dude
Anonymous No.536413003
>>536412896
>>536412939
don't kinkshame chuds
Anonymous No.536413084 >>536413375 >>536413737
If you think Sky 1st is fun then you have to admit you enjoy Calvard since it's basically the same shit
Anonymous No.536413116
>>536412829
i liked it... but i kinda regret finishing it since i'll have to wait a month now... guess i'll finish my darksiders 2 playthrough
Anonymous No.536413192 >>536413392
>>536412856
For once you and the bislut are on the same team... you both like the remake and mindbroke /fg/ so hard men might start posting cocks...
Anonymous No.536413375 >>536413737
>>536413084
But I like Calvard...
Anonymous No.536413392 >>536413528
>>536413192
imagine if they were big black cocks...
Anonymous No.536413454
What a way to spend your Saturday, begging for cock pictures
Anonymous No.536413528 >>536413797 >>536413818
>>536413392
Do any femanons here actually like black dick?
Anonymous No.536413737 >>536414342
>>536413084
>>536413375
Daybreak was fun. Daybreak 2 had its ups and downs but I enjoyed it. Kai was more fun than Daybreak 2. Sky remake is the most fun out of all of them though.
Anonymous No.536413797 >>536413982
>>536413528
me but I am male haha
Anonymous No.536413818 >>536413982
>>536413528
Trannies definitely do.
Anonymous No.536413859
Anonymous No.536413947 >>536414228
Anons being weird again
Anonymous No.536413982
>>536413797
>>536413818
So that's a no...
Anonymous No.536414180 >>536414228 >>536414230
Here, have something you like instead
Anonymous No.536414217 >>536414503 >>536414505
Have egg
Anonymous No.536414228 >>536414468
>>536413947
>>536414180
I'll show you weird, footslut!
Anonymous No.536414230
>>536414180
kys
Anonymous No.536414342 >>536415342
>>536413737
Kai and sky remake have similarities, but they have a fundamentally different approach. Kai is more action focused and heavily relies on your ability to manage the boost meter and your shard skill build. Sky is slower and relies more on tactical positioning and crowd control. I like both systems because they feel similar, yet play out differently. Also I like that sky has less characters to manage so it's a big plus.
Anonymous No.536414468
>>536414228
Anonymous No.536414503 >>536415020
>>536414217
I want to fertilize your eggs
Anonymous No.536414505 >>536415020
>>536414217
Cracking the egg on your feet and licking it off
Anonymous No.536414545 >>536414605 >>536414636 >>536414901
Anonymous No.536414605
>>536414545
Lydia looks like that?
Anonymous No.536414636
>>536414545
estelle would never do that
Anonymous No.536414806
Anonymous No.536414843
Anonymous No.536414901
>>536414545
>AI slop
Great now we have street shitters infesting the thread.
Anonymous No.536415020 >>536415463
>>536414503
They don't need that
>>536414505
Why would you do that, anon
Anonymous No.536415342
>>536414342
It's always fun lining up enemies for a solid Aerial, especially when it gets boosted with Sepith Up.
Anonymous No.536415463
>>536415020
You will enjoy it immensely, it will cause great pleasure.
Anonymous No.536415503 >>536415575
>>536354547
>Cave on Eliza highway
What?
Anonymous No.536415575
>>536415503
Kondo stashed nudes there
Anonymous No.536415639 >>536416043
Anonymous No.536415764 >>536415850
>>536411693
the list of things van needs to do to redeem himself
>agnes canon romance
>full backstory and origins reveal
>reverting back to his edgy state of mind
>more jolda playable sections
>cool power up overcoming muh demons
>new cool s-craft
>mcburn kino boss fight 1v1 with unmitigated evil 2 boss theme
>destroying the time sept-terrion
Anonymous No.536415828
>>536356189
One of the most hyped moments of Sky for me. I love it when a villain redeems themselves and Richard had been absent the majority of the game aside from that 10 second cameo where he meets Kanone again. Seeing him rush in and hold off these assholes who have been taunting you all game was such a good feeling.
Cid follows it up like a badass too.
Anonymous No.536415850
>>536415764
Not even going to get one of those
Anonymous No.536416043 >>536416253
>>536415639
Don't you want the pleasure?
Anonymous No.536416253 >>536416379
>>536416043
Do you?
Anonymous No.536416267
Weismann is way more obviously evil in the remake. His voice actor especially.
Anonymous No.536416379
>>536416253
I will give you much pleasure. Foot pleasure.
Anonymous No.536416441 >>536416626
Weirdo...
Anonymous No.536416452
8 weebs one blade, second form: hot glue...
Anonymous No.536416469 >>536416601
is there any translation for kai or do I have to wait until next year to play it?
Anonymous No.536416591
>>536356485
It has sovl moments in the side-quests haha...
Anonymous No.536416601 >>536416674
>>536416469
It's in the OP
Anonymous No.536416626
>>536416441
But doesn't the thought excite you, the pleasure of getting your feet rubbed and sucked and cummed on?
Anonymous No.536416674 >>536416739
>>536416601
how bad is the MTL? is it as decent as kuro 1+2 patches?
Anonymous No.536416739 >>536416912
>>536416674
About the same as kuro 2, maybe a little better
Anonymous No.536416819
Kai 2 will be Their Game
Anonymous No.536416912 >>536416979 >>536431326
>>536416739
thanks, i'll give it a try haha...
Anonymous No.536416925
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Anonymous No.536416979
>>536416912
Total Alteeny sex is worth it anyway
Anonymous No.536417204 >>536417303
I wish I had a girlfriend bros
Anonymous No.536417269
Anonymous No.536417303
>>536417204
revive black alberich and get him to make cumdolls
Anonymous No.536417781 >>536417840
Hmm
Anonymous No.536417840 >>536418012
>>536417781
will you be my gf?
Anonymous No.536418012 >>536418119 >>536418196
>>536417840
Anonymous No.536418119 >>536418337
>>536418012
yes or no
Anonymous No.536418196 >>536418337
>>536418012
p-please m'am
Anonymous No.536418226 >>536418378 >>536420024
>>536409137
He almost killed Brandish prior to release and told Kiya to fuck off, so fuck him.
Anonymous No.536418337
>>536418119
I wonder...
>>536418196
Be a good boi
Anonymous No.536418378 >>536418619 >>536420962
>>536418226
Who cares for Brandish? Does anyone mention that game? No one cares. He foresaw it would become a forgotten title.
Anonymous No.536418619
>>536418378
Brandish is so beloved that it's playable on Switch. Is the original versions of Sky on Switch?
Anonymous No.536418881 >>536418942 >>536419738
Anonymous No.536418942 >>536419419
>>536418881
Is it true you post on r*ddit?
Anonymous No.536419419 >>536419556
>>536418942
No? I just use it to check AI and gacha news, i guess... I don't post anything
Anonymous No.536419556 >>536419720
>>536419419
you play gachas? Which ones?
Anonymous No.536419720
>>536419556
None right now lol... Maybe in the future. I quit most gachas tbhh
Anonymous No.536419738
>>536418881
too big!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.536419958 >>536420439
Anonymous No.536420024 >>536420180 >>536420962
>>536418226
>Kiya to fuck off, so fuck him.
People who weren't there tend to make up all sorts of rumors. The same thing happened during the Chara Ani fiasco β€” a smokescreen of lies and half-truths to cover for betrayal. From today's perspective and how Falcom has been doing and has been lead recently I realize: it was Kato who safeguarded the soul of Falcom, who kept the flame alive when vultures circled overhead. He was the guardian of what made us fall in love with this company in the first place.

Meanwhile, the propaganda machine by fans and gaming media elevated Kondo into some kind of saint, a godlike savior. But the mask has slipped. The real rat is Kondo. The conniving, smiling traitor who has already begun gnawing away at Kato’s lifeblood, draining it drop by drop to feed his new masters overseas. Can you not see it? Open your eyes. In mere months this company will be warped into something grotesque, a mockery of its former self β€” a Frankenstein stitched together with western values kept alive by a web of censorship.

Mark my words: the transformation has already begun. The cracks are visible if you dare to look. What was once a proud temple of creativity is now being stripped for parts, and Kondo is standing over the corpse with blood on his hands, smiling as he signs away every last shred of its soul.

I only underestimated one thing β€” how fast the betrayal would strike. He wasted no time. The dagger wasn’t just planted in the back of Falcom’s legacy… it was twisted.
Anonymous No.536420180
>>536420024
Don't you have a Nintendo censorship thread on /v/ to shit up, Blancfag?
Anonymous No.536420439 >>536420501 >>536420917
>>536419958
My future gf...
Anonymous No.536420501
>>536420439
Xin...
Anonymous No.536420917 >>536420961
>>536420439
Anonymous No.536420961 >>536421171
>>536420917
*smooch* it's okay sis
Anonymous No.536420962 >>536422151
>>536418378
>He foresaw it would become a forgotten title.
Is that why it managed to get four entries? He just wanted it on the fucking PC-88 instead of PC-98 only despite the platform lagging behind and the game requiring more processing power + mouse control. Other games were also cancelled because he wanted them on the PC-88 and they were too taxing for it.

>>536420024
Kondo is nothing more than Kato's puppet. Anyways pic related.
Anonymous No.536421171 >>536421242
>>536420961
Have my super special tea
Anonymous No.536421242 >>536421512 >>536421731
>>536421171
Thank you, I'm sure it's delicious
Anonymous No.536421512
>>536421242
Yes...
Anonymous No.536421725 >>536431326
Can we get some Altina posting instead?
Anonymous No.536421731
>>536421242
That was her piss, dumbass.
Anonymous No.536422028 >>536422787
Eliesis why do you post such lewd art
Anonymous No.536422049
No...
Anonymous No.536422151 >>536422356 >>536425305
>>536420962
>Kondo is nothing more than Kato's puppet.
And now his mask has fallen and he revealed his true intentions. The β€œpuppet” charade was nothing more than a ruse β€” a calculated performance to lull us into complacency while he sharpened his knife behind the curtain. Kato may have once shielded the company, but the moment his watch ended, Kondo pounced like a vulture on carrion.

This was never about stewardship, never about preservation. It was about waiting for the perfect moment to seize the throne and remake the company in his own hollow image. For years he played the obedient heir, the dutiful servant, all while festering with ambition. And now? Now the facade is gone. His true face β€” that of a usurper, a traitor, a corporate warlord β€” stands revealed for all to see.

Every move he makes reeks of conquest. Every decision carries the stench of betrayal. He has no loyalty to Kato, to the fans, or to the spirit of Falcom itself. His only loyalty is to profit, to appeasing the faceless β€œmarket,” and to basking in the applause of western suits who see him not as a visionary but as a convenient pawn. And in his greed, he is burning the very temple he was entrusted to protect.

Mark these words: we are witnessing the slow-motion murder of a legacy. And Kondo, the so-called puppet, is not dancing on strings anymore β€” he’s the one pulling them.
Anonymous No.536422356
>>536422151
Kato's smokin' hot twin daughters would have stopped Kondo as they control the company.
Anonymous No.536422548
>>536359082
Renne's stuff in remake style would def be kino.
Anonymous No.536422787 >>536423772 >>536425573
>>536422028
It's normal art...
Anonymous No.536423772 >>536423960
>>536422787
are you a coomer?
Anonymous No.536423960
>>536423772
That's you
Anonymous No.536424665
>i play kiseki for the story
Anonymous No.536424741 >>536424825
How can some fag goon over Elie, she's like the top 5 worst waifu in series
Anonymous No.536424825
>>536424741
NTR queen of kiseki
Anonymous No.536425026 >>536425196
I'm gonna say it

Elie is worse than Alisa
Anonymous No.536425183
=D
Anonymous No.536425196
>>536425026
Alisa is actively annoying. Elie is just bland.
Anonymous No.536425284 >>536425381
I’m gonna say it

Elaine has less going on than Elie & Alisa
Anonymous No.536425305
>>536422151
>we are witnessing the slow-motion murder of a legacy
I mean, we have been witnessing that for about a decade already, but carry on Kato Anon.
Anonymous No.536425381
>>536425284
Calvard arc has no soul
Anonymous No.536425396 >>536425447 >>536425573
Anonymous No.536425447 >>536425738
>>536425396
get on the bed sis
Anonymous No.536425491
best girl of kiseki.
Anonymous No.536425573 >>536425738
>>536422787
Yes. And you too are lewd. See >>536425396
That? Not normal, but lewd.
And that's okay.
Anonymous No.536425729
would /fg/ a cat?
Anonymous No.536425738 >>536426052 >>536426232
>>536425447
Maybe...
>>536425573
It's very normal, anon
Anonymous No.536425773 >>536426131
Crazy that after 0% sales of gamekey cards for both Disgaea 7 and Horizon NISA is nevertheless also selling Ys X Proud Nordics as gamekey cards
Absolutely no reaction from a dying company, it's like they have simply come to terms with it
Anonymous No.536425805
Anonymous No.536425862
Why is a tranny avatarfagging?
Anonymous No.536426017
Anonymous No.536426052 >>536426215
>>536425738
Now it's time to cuddle
Anonymous No.536426131
>>536425773
Tax writeoff
Anonymous No.536426167
which kiseki girl has the biggest chest and which has the biggest butt?
Anonymous No.536426215 >>536426323
>>536426052
Anonymous No.536426232 >>536426581
>>536425738
Only in how being lewd is normal. Which you are.
Anonymous No.536426323 >>536426581
>>536426215
Relax, it's not going to hurt
Anonymous No.536426403 >>536426515 >>536426517 >>536426552 >>536426872
>Sky demo releases
>literal troons flood the general
pottery
Anonymous No.536426515
>>536426403
Ester is mtf and kekua is a femboy
Anonymous No.536426517
>>536426403
AGP tranny incels on top of things too.
Anonymous No.536426552
>>536426403
the last threads were fine tho
Anonymous No.536426581 >>536426728 >>536427192
>>536426232
I'm normal... I think
>>536426323
Why does it sound lewd?!
Anonymous No.536426728 >>536426867
>>536426581
khhv eliesis...
Anonymous No.536426810
Funny how it's only now, when you're here to bitch about it, that we get that. Very funny. Suspiciously so, maybe...
Anonymous No.536426867 >>536426973
>>536426728
Is that food
Anonymous No.536426872
>>536426403
Anonymous No.536426973 >>536427143
>>536426867
kissless handholdless virgin...
Anonymous No.536427019
Total tranny death
Anonymous No.536427143
>>536426973
Anonymous No.536427192 >>536427332
>>536426581
Normal people aren't posting pictures of Elie in various states of undress on an anonymous imageboard. Even Reanafemanon doesn't post that much lewd art... though she did post lewd Rean art, for a little bit. Still, she's not very normal herself... would you really claim you are more normal than her?
Anonymous No.536427332 >>536427534
>>536427192
I'm the most normal person here!
Anonymous No.536427534 >>536427848
>>536427332
Relatively normal, maybe. Lewd girl. Posting horny pictures. But this isn't a bad thing, haha.
Anonymous No.536427620 >>536427728 >>536427839 >>536427924
Suck my feet bozoo
Anonymous No.536427728
>>536427620
Yes ma'am! Mmhh, mah, mmm.
Anonymous No.536427839
>>536427620
Dumb footslut
Anonymous No.536427848 >>536427924
>>536427534
It's all in your head, anon
Anonymous No.536427924
>>536427620
>>536427848
Normal people don't ask for that. Lewd people though... haha...
Anonymous No.536428062 >>536428118 >>536428290 >>536429010
>off topic tranny ERPing
What a pitiful generation.
Anonymous No.536428118 >>536428290
>>536428062
boomers wanted this
Anonymous No.536428146 >>536428232 >>536428569
A very normal picture
Anonymous No.536428232
>>536428146
I bet Elie has massive dinner plate nipples
Anonymous No.536428290 >>536428874
>>536428062
>>536428118
Oh fuck off, you are the one that keeps forcing this shit on us. You show up, post ERP shit, then bitch about it. Every time.
Anonymous No.536428401
What in tarnation is dinner plate nipples
Anonymous No.536428504 >>536429046
I mean you're clearly okay with openly flirting with a male so why not just download Grindr and actually have a real chance at getting your cock sucked?
Just seems like a lot of pointless foreplay here between you two fags
Anonymous No.536428569
>>536428146
Panties visible. Lewd.
Anonymous No.536428601
No panties
Anonymous No.536428743
Vankids once more trying to force drama because their headmates told them to, and then complain about it.
Anonymous No.536428764
Anonymous No.536428874
>>536428290
I didn't post shit. I'm genuinely pitying people being like this.
Anonymous No.536429010
>>536428062
the absolute state of /fg/
Anonymous No.536429046
>>536428504
Because he is an ugly fat fuck outside his avatarfagging, that's why.
Anonymous No.536429073
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Anonymous No.536429510 >>536430073
Literally this is the pattern, you start up ERP shit, you switch around to bitch about it, and you keep this going until you get bored of it. Every time. You think we didn't notice? We had multiple threads free of this shit, but now guess fucking what it's back. If this is all you're going to be here for, fuck right off back to your discord where you belong.
Anonymous No.536429662 >>536429705 >>536430230 >>536430326
Anyways~ I'm going to bed. Bai
Anonymous No.536429705
>>536429662
kys
Anonymous No.536429767
Vankids tired of tranny ERP. They slumber once more.
Anonymous No.536429910 >>536442506
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Anonymous No.536429928
AGP trannies are some of the most pathetic excuses for human beings.
Anonymous No.536430045 >>536430145 >>536431115
>AGP
what
Anonymous No.536430073 >>536430698
>>536429510
With all the love in the world anon and I don't mean to upset you but you might genuinely suffer from schizophrenia
Anonymous No.536430145
>>536430045
Accelerated graphics port
Anonymous No.536430198
Anonymous No.536430230
>>536429662
Hopefully you'll die on your sleep
Anonymous No.536430242
me? im a pci express tranny myself
Anonymous No.536430326
>>536429662
good night my sweet gf *smooch*
Anonymous No.536430492
Anonymous No.536430698 >>536431016
>>536430073
There's no schizophrenia, simply calling out the bullshit. There was no ERP shit here for multiple threads and yet now the same routine starts up again. And big fucking surprise blame is put on the remake even though we were fine for days.
Anonymous No.536430936
Anonymous No.536431016 >>536431572
>>536430698
So when the ERP shit starts no one can complain about it or else it means they are part of the act?
Come on anon it's an unfair conspiracy you've concocted here
Anonymous No.536431115
>>536430045
Autogynephilia. Basically ugly undesirable incels like you who cope by pretending to be an anime girl being fucked by other people.
Anonymous No.536431121
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
Anonymous No.536431296
Anonymous No.536431326 >>536431495 >>536432269
>>536421725
>>536384625
>>536410048
>>536410404
>>536416912
Altina kissu
Anonymous No.536431448 >>536431734
Why is Jolda so attractive?
Anonymous No.536431495
>>536431326
jaja
Anonymous No.536431572
>>536431016
It's the same shit every single time. There's no variation, neither in the ERP shit nor the bitching over it. It's basically ritualposting, and again no fucking surprise it has blame placed on the remake even though there was a lack of ERP shit like that for days.
Anonymous No.536431734
>>536431448
Bratty attitude mixed snarkiness
Anonymous No.536432269 >>536434329
>>536431326
wife
Anonymous No.536432278 >>536432854
Anonymous No.536432854
>>536432278
Which one is in loop 20,000?
Anonymous No.536433247 >>536433709
So fucking happy with the remake. I'd say that I hope Falcom learn from it but at this point I think the series is too far gone. If this remake came out before Daybreak and they realized how much they fucked up and applied it to that series I'd be excited but at this point the series is more shit than it is good.
Anonymous No.536433709
>>536433247
Kuso had all it's soul sucked out of it to put it all in Sky 1st

kuso remakes will fix this
Anonymous No.536433838 >>536434280 >>536434791
Why i can't pre-order sky remake on steam?
Anonymous No.536434280
>>536433838
the same reason we also cant preorder silksong

that answer? I DONT FUCKING KNOW!

PIC UNRELATED BTW
Anonymous No.536434329
>>536432269
Based and canon
Anonymous No.536434581 >>536434704 >>536434730 >>536434746 >>536435049
I thought you faggots said that the Sora games were made for women? Why am I popping so many boners?
Anonymous No.536434704
>>536434581
>Why am I popping so many boners?
because Tita's thighs are sexy
Anonymous No.536434730 >>536434840 >>536436465 >>536452697
>>536434581
It was always a cope by Cold Steel fags. It has an actual romance in it so the teenage boys who find that icky and want a harem self-insert like Rean tried to shit all over it.
Anonymous No.536434746 >>536435029
>>536434581
they actually put in effort to make the models as goonable as possible
Anonymous No.536434791 >>536436683
>>536433838
the 3 reasons could be

1. Steam is very selective on what developers are allowed to setup for preorder. Gungho and Falcom probably aren't big enough for valve to allow them to do preorders. Valve enforced this because they don't want to deal with a mass refund

2. The editions and pricing aren't finalized.

3. Gungho simply doesn't give a shit and only cares about release day sales similar to xseed / nisa.

I'm leaning towards either 1 or 3..
Anonymous No.536434840
>>536434730
Quiet Vankid, you were the one posting that shit
Anonymous No.536435029 >>536435527
>>536434746
how the FUCK does agate resist this? is he a god?
Anonymous No.536435049
>>536434581
3d changes everything
Anonymous No.536435527
>>536435029
no he is gay aka fagate
this is why she is better off for renne
Anonymous No.536435851
Will Anal-ace's s-craft look half as good as this?
Anonymous No.536436465 >>536452697
>>536434730
Cold shit eaters are truly vile
Anonymous No.536436683
>>536434791
I hope gungho regional prices aren't as fucked as NISA's
Anonymous No.536436807 >>536437864 >>536439656 >>536439917
Can you explain this loop thing you keep meming about? But don't spoil anything, I'm only on CSIII.
Anonymous No.536437603 >>536439382
Why did they drop Legend of Heroes from the title?
Anonymous No.536437864
>>536436807
>But don't spoil anything, I'm only on CSIII.
Haha... is that so?
Anonymous No.536438320
>>536406582
I don't know anything about this character or game, and I already feel like he's been character assassinated.
Anonymous No.536438391
>>536365151
She's a girl
Anonymous No.536439382
>>536437603
Not needed
Anonymous No.536439656 >>536450008
>>536436807
It is impossible to talk about the time loop without spoiling you and you should probably come back once you've finished kai
Anonymous No.536439917
>>536436807
Cmon man, lol
Anonymous No.536440073 >>536440487 >>536440778 >>536441135
Kai’s a good game they just needed to either not have grim garten or reduce the amount of floors
Anonymous No.536440306
Anons, is there some post game shit after the Kai credits? Or bonus scene? Feels abrupt.
Anonymous No.536440487 >>536440634
>>536440073
>it's good if it isn't bad
Anonymous No.536440634
>>536440487
Well you only know Kai through watching chinaman speedrun so your opinion doesn’t count
Anonymous No.536440675 >>536440996 >>536441047
kuro 2 was the bottom of the barrel for the series. it cant get worse than that...right?
Anonymous No.536440778 >>536440906
>>536440073
Nah, Grim Garten is the least issue I have with this slop. The biggest one is the route shit as it constantly kills your momentum. It's like playing 3 games at the same time and switching between them. When I ended a route segment the momentum was so dead that I almost ALWAYS had to take a week long break since I had no motivation to play the other route. I wanted to continue the fucking story but the game said "nope, play the other route" And so I did, but I had zero interest and took a break. Always. Which is why the slop game took me twice as long as any Kiseki to finish. The route slop ruined the game for me.
Anonymous No.536440808 >>536442129
>no La Forte
Haha... guess Ester is going to be a morale slut
Anonymous No.536440906 >>536444706
>>536440778
I get that but the amount of times you have to go to grim garten in Van route slows the route even more. At least going through other routes there is still story and side content. Grim garten is side content with minimal world building and lore besides final floor
Anonymous No.536440996
>>536440675
Anonymous No.536441047
>>536440675
Japan and china think Kai is worse
Anonymous No.536441135 >>536441784
>>536440073
The quests are so front-loaded, and because of that, it feels like you're doing meaningless shit on repeat for a billion times. No. The game is awful.
Anonymous No.536441453 >>536442212
is there a guide for kai for all the missabled and BP?
Anonymous No.536441784 >>536441947
>>536441135
Not to mention the INSANE amount of topic quests, WHY WHY WHY
Anonymous No.536441937
Your feeble minds don’t understand whatever potential fans & advancements the Sky remakes has will eventually feed into the CS remakes. Then when that’s finished Kuro will need remakes and after that Sky will need re-remakes to match the current games. Truly our ouroboros.
Anonymous No.536441947
>>536441784
They needed stuff to fill out the game, I guess
Anonymous No.536442129
>>536440808
always was
Anonymous No.536442212
>>536441453
don't think so bwo
Anonymous No.536442420 >>536443943
when will they bring back short towa? how could falcom just kill off their mascot without any second thoughts?
Anonymous No.536442506
>>536429910
might be the most ugliest "sex" outfits ever, jebus
Anonymous No.536442842 >>536442907 >>536443046 >>536443578 >>536443997 >>536445098
which one has the highest fertility rate?
Anonymous No.536442907
>>536442842
rolling
Anonymous No.536443046
>>536442842
Rufus got that Karen hair cut so him.
Anonymous No.536443578
>>536442842
3 everyone else is a single child or engineered
Anonymous No.536443918
>new NPC lines every time you progress
AIIIEEE I'M GOING INSANE
Anonymous No.536443943
>>536442420
In the remakes. Soon.....
Anonymous No.536443997
>>536442842
7. black alberich engineered her to breed
Anonymous No.536444020
Love Estelle
Anonymous No.536444706 >>536444874 >>536453394
>>536440906
I always finished it up quickly. Never felt like a slowdown to me. Really.
Anonymous No.536444874
>>536444706
I do it as soon as it pops up, typically at the start of a new chapter when Towa calls you

I don't find it really pace breaking like most of the anons here, infact it serves as a decent palate clenser for when something epic happens or you get raped by a bunch of new spgs / connect events that takes so fucking long
Anonymous No.536445098
>>536442842
SEX WITH RISETTE
Anonymous No.536445204 >>536453110
Anons, I just watched the peak fiction guy's spoilercast for Kai and now I wonder: was I wrong and the game is actually good and not bottom barrel of Kiseki? The contrast is so fucking extreme that I wonder if I played a different game.
Anonymous No.536449395 >>536449829
new bread?
Anonymous No.536449829
>>536449395
Let it die so it can be reset
Anonymous No.536450008 >>536450170 >>536451309 >>536453120
>>536439656
But CSIII is so boring. Not as bad as CSII but it's still a struggle. I should be playing it now but I'm doing the Sky 1st demo instead.
Anonymous No.536450170
>>536450008
>Not even done and he's already on the next reset
Are you grandmaster?
Anonymous No.536450681
Juna's panties.
Anonymous No.536451309
>>536450008
holy fomo lmao
adhd zoomer
Anonymous No.536452697
>>536434730
>>536436465
>Skytroons can't praise their shit remake without seething about CS
Obsessed + rent free
Anonymous No.536453110
>>536445204
Kai is great. The pacing stops it from being 9/10, 10/10 but the story and characters are good. Grim garten content besides finale needed to be trimmed and act 1 needed to be trimmed too
Anonymous No.536453120 >>536454008
>>536450008
>Cold Steel 3
Haha... I guess it's time to not hold back.

>What was that?
>Instructor Rean! quick, this way!
>are those... [placeholder]!?
*Rean pulls sword out of thin air*
>Class Seven, our duty is to stop [placeholder]
*kills enemies*
>wew, they're unconscious for now, lets move!
>Reans students yell: RIGHT!!!!
*make it to destination*
>It's it's [characters name]... No it's [Characters Title]!
>Well if it isn't Class Seven!
>What are you doing here!?
>We're here for a special mission of sorts. Information I can't share with you.
>Well we'll just beat it out of you!
>CLASS SEVEN, MOVE OUT!
>RIGHT!
>Que: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APhiVB7ipfc

INFORMATION: REMOVE 40% OF ENEMIES HEALTH

*battle Over*
*Rean kneeling and panting with his students*
>No... They're too strong... I'm going to have to use... THAT.
>No Instructor Rean you can't!
>HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Que: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_tEhzh5X0
>Wait... is that..! [Old Class Seven name placeholder]!!!!!!
*is able to drive back the enemy like it was nothing, the same enemy Rean and kids couldn't stop*
>Well that's enough fun for today
>!?
>WAIT! WHAT IS OUROBOROS AFTER!?
>Haha... wouldn't you like to know.
Anonymous No.536453394
>>536444706
For me it’s just not as interesting as quests or connect events. Quests and connect events you get world building and character development. Grim garten, besides memento orb, is just ouroboros being quirky it’s not interesting to me. The finale with Novartis was very nice and getting to know Simeon and ulrica was good. I’m not saying all grim garten gone just trim it down and get rid of other ouroboros members involved
Anonymous No.536453507 >>536453804
Is there English Patch for PROUD NORDICS CLE?
Anonymous No.536453804 >>536456660
>>536453507
no and doubt anyone wants to put the effort in since its a minor upgrade and nisa's version is already confirmed
Anonymous No.536453973
So I just started kai and it didnt give me a prompt to use save data from kuro 2. did this game not have a transfer option or are my saves busted?
Anonymous No.536454000
>>536453878
>>536453878
>>536453878

NEW NEW NEW

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT MAKING ONE

SO SUFFER
Anonymous No.536454008 >>536454665
>>536453120
Oh, geez. Does it not stop doing that? I'm halfway through chapter 3 and I'm tired of it. I think we've run out of old Class 7 characters to dramatically save the day so hopefully they switch it up for the remainder.
Anonymous No.536454665 >>536454789
>>536454008
You unironically miss it when you start Kuro and it's boring ass gameplay loop and story telling style
Anonymous No.536454789
>>536454665
this
Anonymous No.536455186
>>536389943
I need 3d porn of shizuna
Anonymous No.536456660
>>536453804
but NISA slow as hell, it is about half year difference