Thread 536407606

Rats? edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>535853027

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
PC Hotfix 6.6.5 - 9th of July
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-6-5-9th-of-july/110634
Feast of Grimnir - new event teaser trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQtJlHxZ6Lg

Darktide:
Hotfix #73 (1.8.5)
steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/668340807104725672
Light the fuse event
steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/668340807104725674

Killing Floor 3:
Hotfix 2 Changelog Notes
steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/497204020946927882

Abyssus:
Is out now - launch trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YeAjcv3GOg
roadmap
steampowered.com/news/app/1721110/view/523100258247377082


>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Space (formerly Jump Ship) - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

>>536375461
Fixed it, I hope it is to your liking.
(shamelessly reposting because new thread got made)

>*bhuman thread
grim

cadia

>>536408158
much better

>>536407840
my dick has become the big

THE POWER
OF ALLAH

>>536408712
I thought 4chan was banned in the united kaliphrate

so which one is shia?
the empire?

>blocked player tries with 3 different classes to request to join my strike team
kek

>>536412286
How would you even know? I thought the game completely nuked any and all communication attempts when you block someone.

>>536412491
it was real in his mind

>>536412491
It doesn't. Literally all it does is replace their character's name with "You have blocked this player". Zero other measures at all.

>>536413938
Well it stops them from being put in your games via the matchmaker

>>536408158
Damn. Not bad…
>>536408712
Lol

I like how none of the rejects in Darktide question why the fuck Morrow is here,they all think he is a veteran of ork invasions on Armageddon (which makes little sense, why the fuck would you need anti ork expert on tertium) instead of the demon invasion one
also why the fuck the Gray Knights are still clinging to their retarded doctrine when even backwater peasant probably noticed or heard about giant warp fracture from which all the demons pour from

>accept xbox players into havoc
>minute into game one picks up his mic
>can hear his smoke alarm beeping throughout the match
https://files.catbox.moe/lyps7d.mp4

>>536415372
most likely too lazy to change the battery
it would drive me insane though

>>536414536
The First War for Armageddon was heavily covered up, so most people only know the Armageddon Steel Legion as professional Ork killers, and Morrow also has a highly shrouded past thanks to Rannick and Sefoni's coverup of his origin (and partially due to Morrow's own cryosleep Alzheimers), the Rejects only have rumors to go about him. Besides, they're there to kill shit, not get too chummy with their higherups.
The Grey Knights purging Armageddon was both due to possible Chaos corruption of the civilians and their protocol to maintain secrecy about the chapter. Sure they can't purge every single backwater that might have exposure to Chaos, but anywhere they go, they mindwipe or kill whoever isn't cleared to know their existence.

>>536415872
Can I have a veto on whether retarded shit like the Gray Knights is considered canon?

>>536407606 (OP)
rat girls... cute....

>>536416564
no
they have a purpose within the story thanks to terminus decree
just kill the emperor if he gets resurrected lol
how? just figure it out lol, I am sure Cuckstodes won't mind

>>536415372
yall got fire alarms?

>>536414536
>which makes little sense, why the fuck would you need anti ork expert on tertium
Someone having an exceptional amount of experience dealing with one enemy doesn’t somehow mean they’re entirely useless against any other enemy, he has an understanding of warfare and large scale strategy that Grendyl clear saw use for, at the very least he’s a competent commanding officer and those are kind of in short supply in their sector, and like the other anon said he’s not actually an Ork expert.
The Grey Knights method of dealing with daemons and warp taint and chaos and those that have interacted with/know of them who aren’t meant to is perfectly reasonable (they’re not the only ones to take such a stance either, pretty much everyone worth their salt in rank believes and thinks it’s necessary too). It’s their “no one is allowed to see us” thing that they go overboard with, and even that serves a purpose, you can’t exactly have a fighting force dedicated near entirely to fighting daemons without implicitly admitting that daemons exist.

>>536415720
>most likely too lazy
It's a nigger.

>>536408158
far better, I'd have gone for girly hair for the juxtaposition though

>>536415372
It jus the sound the hallway make

>>536407606 (OP)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3147480872

>>536415720
how the fuck can you be "too lazy" to change the battery on a smoke detector man? Niggers are insane

>>536422749
I don't know what you're talking about. Houses just make that sound.

ANYONE PLAYING KILLING FLOOR 1?

>>536408158
masculinity is so hot as a darktide player

>>536407606 (OP)
Who’s the artist? Do they draw ratgirl sex?

>>536422749
change wut nigga dont u kno thos jus tha ceiling birds, the hallway jus do that

>>536429587
brother use your eyes

>>536429587
0 effort huh nigger...

>>536435187
>>536435329
In my defense that text is tiny and its dark gray overlaid on a black background and i was also fighting off diarrhea when i posted that which distracted me

>>536415372
i'll do it after this game

>>536414536
But everyone questions the fact that Morrow was on Armageddon all the time? It's a big deal in the Mortis Trials voicelines too.

>>536437241
I found it by with google image search

>>536437241
>cope and excuses
This is the level of awareness of your auric teammates when they uselessly flail into 3 poxwalkers instead of so much as looking at a netted teammate.

>explosion event
>Gloriana
>2 team mates blasted off the side as soon as they drop down

>>536444015
Good very good
>>536447023
Yeah well you’re gay and I play havoc

>>536456787
>Yeah well you’re gay and [I'm Gay]
strange thing to say

>>536437241
At least the text is legible.
I've seen so many artist who draw their signature, but it's so stylized that I might as well be deciphering fucking hieroglyphs.

new Lohner's chronicle
https://www.vermintide.com/news/franz-lohners-chronicle-feast-of-grimnir

>>536465070
>new dorf hold

>>536465070
Is this an actual new map or just some fluff to spam random missions with more bile trolls in them?

>>536419784
Morrow is essentially the ideal soldier:
>loyal
>brave
>competent
>inspiring
>stern but cares for his men
>doesn't ask unnecessary questions
>able to recognize when it's justified to defy authority (like blamming his Chaos corrupted Commissar to stop him throwing more of his guys into the meatgrinder)
This makes him valuable among hundreds of billions in an empire with an average soldier that ranges between spineless, poorly motivated conscripts to inflexible, overzealous fanatics.

EYETIDEBROS?!?! SILKSONG IS ABOUTY TO MOG US BADLY

>>536414536
The veteran Professional question about it often though, and have conversations with Cut-Throat of things like a possible genestealer invasion hidden in Tertium or some close planet when they're not arguing over random shit, but also point isn't possible to bring the topic in the Mounrningstar because reasons and the walls have ears 24/7

>>536470030
Isn't it implied that he killed his Commissar because he was carelessly throwing men into a meatgrinder and he was only saved from getting in trouble because the Inquisition was tracking the guy as a cultist and Morrow had no idea?

>>536471295
Yes, Morrow likely doesn't know much about Chaos corruption at that point, but he can see that the Commissar is just leading his guys into consecutive suicide missions and rambling like a madman. He knows that defying the Commissar is suicide (his captain got blammed), so the only way to make him stop is by blamming him, and he also tried to make it so that the Commissar supposedly died a hero rather than saying he died in some accident or random artillery shell, showing that he isn't a spiteful person.
As for getting into trouble, it's a gamble since the whole war was a clusterfuck involving the Inquisition so there's no guarantee the Commissariat will investigate Morrow's falsified report, and we as the audience knows the aftermath of the war, meaning there was a high chance Morrow would've been KIA in some later battle or purged by the Grey Knights. The Interrogator knew about the impending Grey Knight purge so she tried to pressure him into joining willingly by threatening to expose him, but we know it's a bluff since she decided to kidnap him anyway.

>>536470463
dead on arrival... poor streum on always getting extrinsically fucked... maybe darkswarm can save us

>>536469447
Sounds like a new map to me.

>>536472269
Streum On only has themselves to blame, having passion for your work doesn't mean you automatically get a pass for being incompetent in your work.

>>536473887
Streum On are an eternal amateurs, which is honestly impressive. It's their 4th game now and it still looks like a first project of a bunch of friends they cobbled together in a spare time after work

i want to skin every person still bitching about ratclick in the shopclick steam forums alive

>>536481461
Bitching about ratclick will continue until Fatshit treats Poxclick and its playerbase better.

How do I make the flamer useful in Darktide? I'm a new shitter only at level 13 and I'm struggling to kill mobs on Malice without running out of ammo.

>>536484126
awww booowooohoooo fucking FAGGOT
how about you play the actual superior game instead of ratchads' sloppy seconds, now with more mtx sprinkled on top

>>536485851
The flamer is a funny gun, because its usefulness scales inversely with difficulty. There is absolutely zero reason to take it into lower difficulties because it's clunky and unwieldy, and doesn't have much density to chew through. The flamer lacks in direct high damage offload potential, but makes up for it with having infinite cleave and AoE, something that does not actually become impactful until high level havoc enemy density and hp because you can actually thin through hordes faster with other weapons otherwise.
But aside from that, for blessings you're going to want blaze away (strength for how long you keep the trigger held down) and penetrating flames to make the horde more brittle, and allows your team to whittle it down faster.

Darktide keeps crashing to desktop in middle of big fights.
It never did that before, what did fatshark fuck up this time

>>536489973
Fagshart pushed another broken "hotfix" that they were too lazy to fix before the weekend. Again. As they always fucking do, the retarded swiggers.
Install https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/579 to fix it.

>slam chaos spawn into railing
>it starts to do multiple attacks within a span of one second, breaking blocks and my spine within seconds
ebin

>>536487403
I'm in it for the larp, so I suppose I'm playing suboptimally until then. At least the Heavy Eviscerator kicks ass.

Cooldown reduction on stagger, or increased damage for afflicted enemies on ogryn taunt? I feel like the increased damage to bosses is infinitely more useful in havoc 40, but most of my failed runs come from not being able to herd the cats on my team that insist on going down the nanosecond I let my eyes off of them.

>>536500874
Stagger CDR 100%

>>536465070
wonder why they made up a whole new dwarf hold for this instead of just going for a minor one that Karak Ziflin or used a different word instead of Karak in front of it, like Khazid, Kazad, Grung, or Migdhal.
>>536466773
They probably don't mean a proper Karak like Agazraz or Norn, it probably just meant to be a small town, a full dwarf hold shouldn't have much issue with a single Troll Chieften

>>536500874
The damage amp is really good when there's regen modifiers, and kinda nukes bosses.
The cooldown reduction is a crutch for your retards because everything is trying to hit you now, and it also helps you a lot with the massive toughness regen it provides.
I'd personally always choose reliability/stability over situational damage output. Going fast requires that everyone is on the same page, going slow is easy even for retard randos to do. CDR is always my pick.

>>536501503
for all the complaining Bardin does about climbing stairs there sure seems to be lot of them here and not a single elevator

>>536504495
It has multiple lifts, but they just aren't shown on the map

>>536500874
fast weapon like club, cooldown
slow weapon, damage boost
It will only proc once per attack, so it's less useful on slower weapons.

Darktide: the cuck times

is darktide super unstable for anyone else or did i fall for the modmeme because i don't remember it being this bad when i played without mods

>>536508920
first two days of the barrel event were atrocious
just endless disconnects and lags, even entering mourningstar had error message
no crashes though

>>536508920
buff bars are broken >>536490359

>>536485851
I want wings too :(

>>536508920
The biggest issue is the 2014 disconnect error that affects all platforms. Besides that I haven’t noticed anything else.

>>536500874
Smug anime girls in darktide when >>536487164
Gay

>>536471295
I don’t think the officer was a cultist, he just fell to corruption during the clusterfuck that was Armageddon >

>>536470463
milkdong looks dumb and gay and hollow knight is overrated as shit

I love declining requests of autists to join my havoc 40's and watching them sperg out and spam invites for 15mins. Its always a zealot too lol.

WHAT IS THE LATESTS NEW'S ?

sory caps

>>536415372
the hallway just do that sometime

>>536518739
>sweggers came back from their post-vacation vacation
>fixed a bunch of shit and broke others
in other words, business as usual

New arbites cosmetics when?

>>536518403
How much do they spam it?

>>536500874
Damage amp every day. It's +25% more damage to everyone in your team, it's busted.

this event is wacky
>barrel spam
>poxburster spam
>shotgunenrs drop grenades
>for some reason cranial corruptions
>all knockback doubled including bosses
am I missing anything? it's like they just threw in everything

>>536525078
Bomber/Tox bomber spam too, and all the barrels seem to be yellow for some reason even though reds also do knockback.

real casul hours for pubs, huh

>>536528301
tis the weekend, sah

>>536486740
>how about you play the actual superior game
You are right, I should play xcom 2 instead.

>>536525078
>no aquilas as a reward
Skipping this like all events before.

>>536530467
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2846273882
you are using this right?

Is Zealot weak or am I shit in H40? I feel like a buffbot just spamming chrous on CD, if I'm meant to be a tempo maker then I need to swap cause I hate that role.

>>536531597
You're closer to a healslut. Zealot was originally intended to be a brawler but they failed at making that appealing and now all everyone plays is the support build. Veteran with weapon specialist has better toughness regen, better ranged capability, and melee efficiency about equal to yours, and only lacks in the toughness damage reduction that you get.

>>536531597
play charge then it's totally fine. Just be aware that you'll get less invites because shitters want to crutch on the buffbot

>>536532407
I host H40s regularly and the ratio at which I see FOTF zealots compared to healslut zealots feels like 1:50. Sad state for that class

>>536531597
Chorus zealot is wipe prevention, horde clear and bodyguard. Don't run the retarded blades toughness build with chorus, it's dogshit. I don't care how much Mr. Estrogen tries to gaslight you into thinking backstab cdr is good enough, it not only requires an ogryn to work well, it also stops working when things start going wrong, which with pubbie randos, happens often. Also builds not running purity are fucking pointless. The amount of wounds you can prevent even with the small chip heal is insane. Shield of Contempt is also massively underrated in an actually competent party that only rarely takes health damage.

If you're assigned bodyguard duty, you hang back and spam flamer, while keeping enemies off your psyker and/or veteran, ideally both, which form a perfect trifecta with zealot. Fourth is ideally ogryn, LW mine arbitrator, or non-chorus zealot. If you're safe, you can play aggressively and push with chorus. In any case, always chorus when a horde starts coming your way to start locking them in place and provide toughness. You should have somewhere around 33% uptime. Don't be afraid to charge into battle and through flames, health is your cooldown resource. It's not difficult to play.

Damage zealots are also good, but much more niche. I don't think FotF is optimal, but stealth, even keystoneless, is very strong. The role here is diving dangerous areas and removing high value targets before they become a problem. Particularly effective during rituals, although I still believe rituals to be the easiest modifier with a competent chorus zealot, since two flame grenades wipe out an entire ritual without even doing anything else. But this assumes you can break away from your team and dive the ritual without your retards wiping, which might already be assuming too much.

>picrel
I erroneously suggested bomber res before. After testing, it turns out it doesn't work against flames OR fart gas, just their melee attacks, so it's dogshit.

>>536533191
Bomber res absolutely worked against the fire and fart gas as of like, 1 month ago when I tested it. Are you sure you tested bomber res or did the fuckers actually break it again

>wipe prevention
american hours

>>536531597
>>536533191
I should add some details about the flamer.
When on bodyguard duty, use the primary fire. The stagger and suppression values on it are actually pretty huge, and its range is respectable. A couple puffs stagger and suppress most enemies that aren't virtually immune to it. It's generally a good idea to be holding the flamer whenever you don't have to melee, just so you can puff flames into trappers, gunners and ragers that come into range. It also staggers bursters in a couple puffs, and does all of that with infinite cleave.
Brittleness blessing is also good for horde clear, but I still prefer strength because it makes the weapon a dedicated monstrosity killer. You will be thankful for it when a beast of nurgle shows up in a really bad spot. It's not quite bolter, but it's much more versatile and similarly ammo efficient. In general, you shouldn't struggle for ammo if you have a vet, and there's only +1 ammo using class. Don't play with arbitards who spam their gun and hoover up all the ammo.

>>536533530
My testing method was comparing how long it took to down against a single bomber or flamer, comparing 0 resist, and 3x20, and the times were identical. In the psykhanium. This was also around a month ago.
If you do test it again yourself, please report your results. I don't really want to go through the trouble again.

>>536535008
>not indian
If you're going to make jokes about not wiping, at least use the correct nationality.

>>536535230
indians don't wipe, americans can't wipe. they are brothers in crust

>>536535465
kek

>>536535465
Burgers BTFO'd to death again

>>536487164
they could've at least made her face not repulsuive looking

>>536434898
kek

>>536517358
i agree, seems like something the norman's just latched onto, the same way they did with undertale. why not vermintide 2 or other funner games? can you imagine how much more updates we might have had if vermintide 2 had an average player count that was 100k monthly compared to where it is now?

>>536538358
>why not
Mechanical depth. It's really easy to tell what's going on, and when someone is good, with games that don't have much mechanical depth and are more about execution than knowledge or understanding. Metroidvania platformers are pretty easy to understand, and have very simple controls. Tide games have infinitely more variables you have to pay attention to. Even shit like spatial awareness is an entire, major component that most platformers just completely ignore by having almost everything relevant on screen at all times.
Then it also has a cutesy, marketable art style. Tide games don't. I think ratclick's art direction is ugly as sin (in an endearing way) even if the environments are gorgeous. Poxclick meanwhile is just warhammer bombast, but it's not something a normie would even care about beyond maybe the soundtrack, which is by far the best thing about the game. Also if you stop and take in the view, a random poxer materializes behind you.
Then there's onboarding and player retention. Tide games are extremely hard to get into, have a bunch of opaque and impenetrable mechanical depth, incorrect or misleading descriptions, trap options, sw*doid jank, and then not much reason to keep playing after a while because none of your friends are likely to even pick it up, much less get over the hump of gitting gud.
There's also the multiplayer aspect when combined with the difficulty of the game, as well as the near complete lack of socialization in tide games. DRG at least lets you meme around with mushrooms and gold. The best you have in darktide for example, is jerking off with stimms, or injecting every color of stimm into your ogryn because it's funny to think about the consequences. It's much more likely that people shy away from forced multiplayer because they don't want to drag down everyone else with being shit.

>TL;DR
Tide games are fucking hard, most gamers are casul and prefer single player games.

Does playing arbitrator just fucking crash your game now?

>>536539785
Targets Acquired is bugged and will stack infinitely with itself. The game currently has a bug where having too many buffs crashes your game.
See >>536490359 for the solution
Remember to leave a negative review on Steam bitching about fagshart's incompetent ... is this 4 patches in a row? 5? streak of "hotfixes" that break more than they fix. It's the only thing they listen to.

>>536535230
Just tested it again. Pox bomber ticks for 30 toughness damage on my ogryn without the curios, with full bomber curios it's 15.
For scab bombers, it goes from 26 to 13
For scab flamer flamer residue, it seems to stay at 20 no matter what. The actual flame burst itself goes from 31 to 13
Did not test dreg flamer I'll just assume it's the same

If the damage numbers seem inconsistent it's probably because ogryn has some ranged DR talents. I specifically tested the first tick with no talents procced. Could not be fucked to switch to a blank talent tree since I have no slots open. Only set out to test if bomber + flamer res works. It does
I'm guessing you tested just the flamer flamer residue or something along those lines

>>536540548
I tested mine on zealot without any talents, I'm not sure why our results are so different.
Did you stand in the fire from full to empty? Because that's kind of the only metric I care about.

>>536540974
No, I tested one tick. I'm not gonna bother doing footage analysis when I can literally see how much damage one tick of fire does

>>536541668
Yeah but that's the thing though, doesn't fire ramp up to deal more damage if you stay inside of it? I assume it just doesn't reduce the bonus damage. Single tick is irrelevant.

>>536541774
I don't think pox bombers ramp up at all so I'm not sure what you mean. I can tell you how many ticks it takes on both bombers though.
Pox bomber with 165 toughness, 0% bomber resist takes 6 ticks
Pox bomber with 184 toughness, 60% bomber resist takes 13 ticks

Scab bomber with 165 toughness, 0% bomber resist takes 6 ticks
Scab bomber with 184 toughness, 60% bomber resist takes 12 ticks

Make of the data what you will I'm not gonna reroll my trinkets to test it with same toughness though, too much effort. Seems clear that it's functional.

>>536544106
Thanks for testing. That's fucking strange. I'll give it another go myself right now.

>>536544106
with 3 perks for 20% DR it's actually only 36% resistance because of the way the calculation works.

>>536544535
Explain the math, because with 1-0.8^3 I'm getting 0.488

>>536545069
Oops, you're right, I meant 48%. That 36% number is for something else I got mixed up with

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>try out ranged ogryn
>have fun
>but be almost useless (and completely useless when out of ammo)
i really wish he had +ammo on weakspot hit or something like that even if just during his ability so you could keep blasting into hordes with high firerate BRRRRT

>>536546421
Achlys twin stubber looger is very ammo hungry but strong in aurics

>>536533191
>>536535230
>>536540548
>>536544106
>Setup: Arbitrator pathed down to Lone Wolf (15% TDR) so the dog doesn't get in the way, no other sources of damage resistance, 19 unspent points
>16% toughness, 20% bomber, 20% flamer, 5% toughness
>16% toughness, 20% bomber, 20% flamer, 5% toughness
>19% health, 20% bomber, 20% flamer, 5% toughness
>build 2 with identical build and curios, but without resistance
>stats in psykhanium: 221 toughness, 238 health, on both
>auric difficulty

>fire bomber with resistance
20 ticks from first damage tick until down
>fire bomber without resistance
14 ticks from first damage tick until down

>tox bomber with max resistance
8 ticks from full toughness to 0
>tox bomber without resistance
4 ticks form full toughness to 0
(didn't test health because that would take too long)

>flamer with resistance (against a wall)
timed, ~5 seconds from first damage tick until down
>flamer without resistance (against a wall)
timed, ~3.4 seconds from first damage tick until down
(didn't test tox flamer because the results were already conclusive)

>conclusions
Flamer and bomber resistance DOES seem to work correctly. My previous testing methods weren't thorough enough.
>what did I do differently
I made sure to fully quit out of the psykhanium, fully update my build, and double check that both the server, and my client properly caught up between testing steps.
>why did that go wrong last time
I didn't triple check that my build updated. My mistake was trusting fagshart to competently code an inventory system/server handshake. The joke is on me.
I didn't bother editing any recorded footage because effort. The detailed testing report will have to suffice for any doubters.

>>536544535
That's a nice reddit parrot dear meanwhile you can look at the numbers I posted and see you get twice the effective time in a fire zone

>>536546421
I made this build for a ripper gun mk6 with cavalcade + blaze away and it fucking sucks

>>536547658
I just always swap a wep along with it so I can make sure it actually swapped loadouts

>>536549696
You'd think that would do it, but it didn't seem to update my damage resist when I did that.

thats one very short cop

>>536550574
my friend keeps telling me I need to make my character min height to minmax but I tried it and you can't fucking see over poxwalkers so you miss trappers and bombers sometimes
Idk how people can play like that. I did love bardin but he was balanced around the disadvantage

>>536550574
>>536551163
Ogryn main chad here. I have to play max height

>>536548828
>blaze away
You put Flechette on the mkVI
Since the braced fire is a burst on the mkVI. Crits and lucky bullet count for each shot in a burst. Letting Flechette max bleed stacks off a single crit proc, and get 3 free bullets instead of 1 from Lucky Bullet; compared to the 1 of the full auto braced rippers, who would otherwise need to use hipshot for the burst benefit

>event, auric
>two players marked as leaver shitters by a mod
>this scoreboard
I was constantly dealing with fuckhuge hordes and soloing literally every objective without any exception while the other three retards lagged two entire rooms behind. The psyker complained and ragequit halfway through the mission, though I have no idea what caused it because the tards were always hugging each other.
How can three whole players underperform against a single player who also did all of the objectives?
I swear some """players""" in this game aren't even fucking sentient. How did that zealot not even deal twice as much damage as my fucking dog + dog blitz? I swear with Razor-Jaw it would've actually outdamaged him.
I still had fun effectively being solo, but man, this is sad.

>>536553083
>two players marked as leaver shitters by a mod
are you talking about the winrate mod or something else?

>>536553307
Yeah just the winrate mod. I play a lot of maelstroms where there's a lot of leavers. One guy was marked for 2, the other for 1, left games. I think it was the zealot with 2.

Why are darktide bots so dogshit when ratclick bots were at least occasionally reliable

>>536533191
Why the fuck are you using riposte instead of thrust on a non-crit focus build

>>536555597
Cooldown reduction, not damage.
I'm actually using the crit chance on attack blessing now, just in case my stacks drop off. This happens sometimes.

>>536555682
If that is what you are going for then wouldn't it make more sense to take the knife and spam lights? I can't see how this build could possibly be better than just getting a backstab or two on some poxwalkies in order to instantly refill your meter

>>536556068
>wouldn't it make more sense to take the knife and spam lights?
No, I'm using the dueling sword for its special. Stunning mutants out of a charge, ragers out of their frenzy, and crushers out of an overhead is extremely important to me. This sometimes even applies to trappers. Knife has much shorter range on the punch, and it has much, MUCH less stagger. Only the tac axe is actual competition.
>I can't see how this build could possibly be better than just getting a backstab or two on some poxwalkies in order to instantly refill your meter
That's because you're thinking in terms of theorycrafting, not practical application.
>dump chorus
>it somehow isn't enough
>can't move around because there's fire everywhere
>2-3 bosses are bullying me into a corner
>not enough poxers around, or they're all facing me
Backstabs simply don't happen reliably when things go bad. Martyr's Purpose literally guarantees that you have chorus when you need it the most, and will singlehandedly prevent otherwise bad wipes, with bad teams.
>but anon, what about good teams
Irrelevant, I don't play premades. I have to assume my randos aren't good, and I don't want to base my entire build around the contingency that we have a taunt ogryn who happens to be competent.

>>536556738
If you aren't skilled enough to strafe around a staggered enemy and stab it in the back then I don't know what to tell you. It evidently works for everyone else except you. Relying on crits and taking damage for cooldown reduction and then not taking any of the nodes that increase your crit chance is retarded. I don't know why I am even bothering to engage with you since you have already decided that your backwards build is actually better than what is universally agreed upon to be ideal and that anyone who disagrees with you is just theorycrafting.

>>536558713
Invocation of Death isn't core to this build, it's just the best node for pathing into Blazing Piety, which is most useful here for the flamer. Stalwart's toughness damage reduction is actually a big deal, but Infectious Zeal (10% crit for everyone) is the main reason I use it.
If you genuinely want to make the argument that getting backstabs off with your back against the wall, surrounded by flames and bosses, is somehow possible, then you are as disingenuous as you are clueless to how this build plays.
It doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree with me, when you make it so fucking evident that your opinion is worthless on the basis of immediately discarding the core concept of the build, though inexperience or whatever schizo cope you're about to come up with.
Just because everyone agrees on something doesn't guarantee that it's true. Nor does it change my repeated observations of toughness meme zealots barely contributing anything, constantly eating shit, and never having chorus when it matters. It also doesn't stop me from winning most havoc games I play with this build, or having infinitely more success with this build, than with toughness variants.

>>536555372
I spawned into game in the middle of a fight, of course, and I'm pretty sure a bot triggered a daemonhost. Could have been the other human, too, I was busy fighting crushers and maulers.

>>536559882
>bot triggers daemonhost
>player joins and replaces bot
>daemonhost switches targets and attacks me

>>536535465
Lol
>>536551661
You and everyone with a brain

>>536555372
fatshark's communication and update frequency is so god awful that if their office burned down players wouldn't know for months, which is crazy because they manage one and a half games
like they lost their lead combat designer not too long ago and their entire community management team has shuffled in the last two years so it stands to reason they've lost a lot of less visible talent
anyway point is the game is probably on life support in a big way even by fatshark standards

>>536565139
forgot to mention that being acquired by tencent will do that to a company whose employees couldn't survive two consecutive weeks of labor

>tacaxe arbitrator did 1.1 million melee damage in h40
>and another 700k-ish other damage types
breddy imbressive
>of that, dog bleed only did 115k, only 16k on monsters
>dog's raw monster damage was actually higher than its bleed somehow
kek, I guess Razor-Jaw is pretty disappointing, then. Then again, 115k damage is 115k damage.
>no Execution Order
>didn't even use Will of the Lex
gigachad

>>536565139
All the best weapons were made after the lead combat designer left

Let that sink in

>>536565909
might hold water if they didn't break shit with every hotfix and if the shit we're seeing now wasn't in the production pipeline since before launching that unfinished heap of dung

>>536566098
Holding water isn't always good
Sometimes you gotta get rid of the water to look good in bodybuilding competitions

Let that sink in

>>536565909
>>536567345
I'm not letting the fucking sink in

>>536567718
So be it...

page 10

>>536577212
Dead game, dead thread.

>>536577212
>>536577848
Vermintide is truly dead

>>536577848
*games

>>536580017
**genre

>>536565909
Giving a weapon huge numbers doesn't mean it's suddenly fun
the meta weps are boring and lame

what if we killed EVERY swedish person

>>536583228
what if a paki raped and beheaded swedes in fartshart office

>>536583559
They'd have to be in the office, tho.

>>536583851
touche

>>536582963
They are meta because they are fun and good

Let that sink in

>>536585708
Ah yeah everyone uses the dueling sword because it's just such a fun concept
that's why everyone uses the rapier in vt2... no wait they use almost every saltz wep because they're mostly balanced and there isn't just one outlier that rapes everything else because they desperately wanted to please the community with a god weapon

I hate that brainlets like you defend this dogshit throwaway design. It sucks to see my franchise go to the dogs and the swine cheer

>>536583559
i would clap

>>536585918
The duelling sword was made under the old combat director
The conversation is about the ones that were made under the new combat director

Try to keep up

A machine gun?

>>536587267
Got one right here, sah!

tomorrow we click RATS

>>536585708
unironically true
Arbitrator is overpowered broken and yet the single most fun experience you can have in this game because unlike the 3 other human-sized classes he gets to dish out DPS and play aggressively. It's no coincidence he is the only class whose meta abilities reward aggressiveness, and every others' rewards defense. Except maybe Ogryn's, but Taunt is weird because it defends your teammates and makes enemies focus on you so you have to play more aggressively

>>536588538
To be fair, Ogryn needs to play offensively in order to get infinity toughness regen for tanking every bit of ranged damage attracted by his size.

>>536587502
cant wait to meet okri

Can't wait for fatshark to ruin the balance further. They should copy what devs did in destiny 2.

>>536589665
You should try a harder coop game if it bothers you. Oh wait, it doesn't exist

>>536589665
Destiny is gay however.

>>536590123
And darktide is heading into that same direction.

what did they do to destiny 2?

>>536590123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHVtZsCZ1TA

>>536590528
they did several (bad) things over the last 3-4 years but i'm not sure what exactly he's referring to

Darktide?
more like
niggadied

Now that the pajeet shills have left and dust has settled, what the fuck was tripwire thinking with KF3? The game is already dead. Who greenlit the Concord reject characters?

>>536533191
I think I've actually played with you. In ascension riser at the big doors in the beginning you spammed all of your grenades and just used flamethrower at chaff. Once you ran out of grenades you weren't doing anything useful.
This build sucks and so do you. Going for the +2 wounds talent is a massive shitter red flag.
Git gud and stay out of my havocs.
Also, throw the crutch dueling sword into the trash and start using relic blade (and throwing knifes) like a real zealot you pleb.
Flamethrower is also a shitter crutch. Take bolt pistol.

>>536598696
why bolt pistol instead of bolter?

>>536598696
anyone following that build deserves it honestly

>>536598845
Sure use a bolter if you prefer. I just like bolt pistol to pop specials and gunners and it doesnt take a lot of time to pull out.

>>536598246
>what the fuck was tripwire thinking
Clearly they weren't.

>>536599095
If you already run the knives you can kill all specials and even gunners with those.
You don't need to bolt pistol and can just use the bolter since it's one of the best sniping guns in the entire game.

>>536598246
One of the leads has a hardon for scifi which is why the games have started leaning more and more into it
Also new(?) devs not understanding what made previous games good and toning down gun autism, britishness and grittyness to the point where all the fucked up mutant clone creatures conveniently took a shower before deciding to try to wipe out humanity
Also Embracer Group
Also UE5

>>536601007
Sure, like said use bolter if you prefer. I dont think it makes much of a difference either way. Magdumping into the back of a beast of nurgle is one of the best things to do in DT

>>536533191
Don't listen to this retard, this is a genuine shitter build. Don't let the wall of text fool you into thinking it's good.
Here's an actual H40 zealot build.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fb7b775-32fa-4a78-a7a4-70563d0e4c47/h40-zealot
As for other weapons you can use the bolter or greatsword as a replacement.
With bolter run carapace + unyielding and puncture with either cavalcade or shattering impact.
With greatsword run flak + unyielding and rampage with either cranial grounding or wrath.

Bolt pistol is viable too but you need more skill using it.

>>536598246
im HAVING A BLAST

>>536587502
surely today they will tell us what this event is about
if we are getting a new map i wonder if it'll be like a quiet drink, where the map is only available during the event

>>536601856
Based and correct

Spitter!

Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank!

Watch out guys, i hear a coomer.

>>536605676
that must be the feller who masturbates all day long

>>536598696
>I think I've actually played with you.
Unlikely. The only havoc games I've recently played on zealot were yesterday (into the night), none of which on Ascension Riser. I think half my games were on the map with the scaffolding room to medicae with stairs leading to the stupid escalator stairs you have to wait for.
>you spammed all of your grenades and just used flamethrower at chaff
Can't have been me then, I don't waste grenades or ammo on chaff unless there's a boss. I also only play EU. I also almost exclusively play with a psyker and ideally a veteran in the party. It's pretty pathetic that you have to come up with lies to cope and justify how this build is le bad, just because you don't understand how it works.
>Git gud and stay out of my havocs.
I don't play the 20-30 range, anon. I doubt we'll ever actually play together.

WEAPONS OVER HERE

idk if this was asked yet but any new's of new rat content `?

>>536577212
helldivers leaving this thread has been a disaster

>>536612061
>only havoc games I've recently
This was weeks ago but seeing your build reminded me of it. I was so baffled by the build that I still recall the (short) match.
>I don't waste grenades or ammo on chaff unless there's a boss
There was in fact a boss but who the fuck cares? A weakened chaos spawn or whatever is irrelevant.
>only play EU
This was EU
>I also almost exclusively play with a psyker and ideally a veteran in the party.
You know, I believe the teamcomp was psyker zealot vet arbites
>I don't play the 20-30 range
Well this was 35~ iirc

Honestly everything you just said convinced me even more. I fucking cringed when I saw your build and gotta say that it performed exactly as badly as I expected. Dont try to shill bad builds to others. Zealot has exactly one proper way to go through the talent tree and it always uses knives

>>536601856
Genuinely asking, why precognition on the dueling sword as opposed to thrust or even riposte? I see a lot of people using this but I never understood why since thrust is so strong with the attack speed you get from your tree and the inherent high speed of the heavy attack

Psyker or Veteran

>>536618831
>Well this was 35~ iirc
Then it physically can't have been me, because I only play 40s. I've been 40 since the second weekend after havoc came out, and the only times I've ever dropped below that were during resets that put everyone at -10 by default.
>Dont try to shill bad builds to others.
It's not a bad build. It is, in fact, easier to play than the usual le epicly high skilled damage cope builds on what is definitively a support class when running chorus. A shit zealot is always going to be a shit zealot. If anything, that retard probably did better than he otherwise would've, because that specific health chorus build is loaded with crutches. It's as easy as it gets. This is by design, and I am not ashamed of it. Underperforming with it requires the player to be severely fucking retarded.
>Zealot has exactly one proper way to go through the talent tree
This is admitting that you're either a completely braindead meta slave, and/or have never even reached havoc 40, much less played enough games to know what the fuck you're talking about.
The second best zealot player I've seen used fucking crusher and a primary fire flamer spam build with fucking stun grenades and no keystone. He was at the bottom of the scoreboard. You know what else he did? Keep everyone safe with infinite stagger spam, never missed a chorus, and handed out stimms like candy. As a result, the run was as smooth as could be. The best one was obviously a stealth build, but that probably goes without saying.

>>536618936
Because thrust is totally unnecessary and only good against Crushers. Precognition is really good on everything all the time and very well rounded

>>536601856
>picrel
>trolling outside of /b/
Nice one you fucking retard.

>>536619525
Mate you're accusing others of being metaslaves while you personally cant seem to comprehend letting go of your double crutch of dueling sword and flamer.
Next time, take thunder hammer + fotf and open your mind to a new level.

imagine taking any talents at all
perma stuckies

>>536619140
For what?
First class? Havoc grind? What?

>>536620349
>Mate you're accusing others of being metaslaves
I'm accusing the retard who shills the exact same, identical build literally every other retard is using. That very build that nobody can pilot correctly, and never contributes with. That very same build said poster admitted to not even being havoc 40 with. Maybe read into the context before listening to your schizo hallucinations, retard.
Also this contrarian nigger is suggesting SPRINT EFFICIENCY.
>Next time, take thunder hammer + fotf and open your mind to a new level.
Based, but also unfortunately barely playable because nobody wants 2 zealots, and the second zealot is always going to be that one retarded toughness build and never actually press the fucking ability. I don't intrinsically need chorus to survive, but I need teammates, and they don't survive without it.

>>536620980
>same, identical build literally every other retard is using
Everyone uses that general template because it is objectively the best way to go through the talent tree. Blame fatshark for their poor design choices.
>very build that nobody can pilot correctly, and never contributes with
What are you even on about. All you do with any zealot build (except based fotf) is just press chorus and smash heretics in between. A player who is shit with his talent choices is also going to be shit with yours.

Btw flamer is insanely, insanely overrated so at least he correctly suggests using bolter. Hell, use a laspistol or a fucking infantry autogun instead of flamer. So many flamer mouthbreathers, its insane.

>>536616890
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/546744156294218077
It's a new mission for Vermintide 2

>>536621953
>non linear map
oh boy, people are lost on Bogenhafen that is mostly straight line

>>536621741
>Everyone uses that general template because it is objectively the best way to go through the talent tree.
It is, in aurics, making the assumption that you'll have to solo the entire run because randos are deadweight retards. This does not apply to, or even work in, havoc 40. This is also not the best build in havoc 40. I am speaking from experience.
>All you do with any zealot build (except based fotf) is just press chorus and smash heretics in between.
This is extremely reductive, and not even in the correct direction.
If you want to optimize your team comp, you pick zealot for chorus or for stealth. Nobody picks it for stealth. If you reduce Zealot to chorus, you obviously want to maximize chorus, especially when things go bad. The toughness build does neither. Only backstab can reach similar uptime, but requires an ogryn, and immediately eats shit when things go bad. Martyr's Purpose is almost impossible to wipe with if your teammates aren't completely retarded, you just turn health into a resource to spam chorus with.
I would also argue that Shield of Contempt and Purity aura are incredible, but you wouldn't get it.
>Btw flamer is insanely, insanely overrated so at least he correctly suggests using bolter.
Flamer receives exactly as much recognition as it deserves, people just don't use it correctly. The primary fire is insane, I rarely see anyone use it. A properly built flamer removes monstrosities with decent ammo efficiency and should always top the scoreboard in that regard, while ALSO dealing with hordes, which bolter can't. Nothing bolter does is remotely necessary to what chorus zealot is expected to contribute in a team, nor does the class have the necessary talents to turn it into a special sniping machine, or the ammo efficiency to pull it off effectively. It only shines at killing monstrosities relatively quickly. If you run knives (which I don't think you should), you don't even need it for special sniping anymore.

Why is zealot the ONLY class that really seems to confuse everyone for havoc

>>536622939
Habit.
Everyone played hundreds to thousands of hours of the one selfish auric build, and can't adjust or cope with the fact that zealot is reduced into a support class in havoc.

>>536622173
Yeah. And just like with Bogenhaffen maps, community will quickly find the most optimal route every experienced player will follow, functionally making the map linear

Other than this I like the idea. I always complained about Hunger in the Dark. It felt like a massive waste to not get a chance to fight against few Trolls at once in it. Instead you just get a single guaranteed Troll at the end and more of them will only show up just to blow up once players are safely far away beyond the point of no return. A blueballing experience

I think that in general Fatshark is too married to l4d formula for no reason. I'd like to fight against nonhorde more elite enemies as well.

Why does he keep calling it a "toughness build" as if that's an insult or means anything at all

>>536622603
>Purity aura are incredible
Agreed, and you should go down purity path especially in the blight modifier. Even without the modifier, purity aura is never a wrong choice. When talking about "the general zealot build" it just means going through throwing knives and taking blazing piety.
>If you reduce Zealot to chorus
I dont. And you shouldnt. Because what zealot should be doing in between is swinging a big gigachad relic blade and dealing damage. Or if you want to maximize your cuck chorus you can do DS/combat knife/tac axe for the crits. But seriously, fucking kill shit. I hate zealots who arent lopping off heads in melee. Especially dueling sword plebs seem to always avoid getting into thick of it

Why do I keep seeing a huge uptick in ogryns taking lucky bullet paired with the rumbler applying to my havocs? I genuinely don't think the rumbler is nearly that strong to warrant taking another keystone, in more extreme cases I also see people taking coward culling aura with it.

>>536623545
You know you could just reply, right?
>Why does he keep calling it a "toughness build"
Because it uses toughness as its primary, and arguably only defensive layer, besides Until Death.
>as if that's an insult or means anything at all
It is, and it does, when you look at the math. Zealot has piss poor base toughness and doesn't reach impressive numbers (before curios) even when built into it. Havoc applies a -45 toughness penalty, and -35% HP. Not only are toughness curios weaker than health curios, you also numerically get less survivability, per point, than you get from health, based not only on zealot's base numbers, but also havoc's penalties.
Increasing your total toughness by a laughable +50 barely helps you, when you should almost always be in gold toughness anyway. Compare that to the effective HP you get out of full health investment + Restoring Faith, never mind the cooldown reduction you can leverage out of Martyr's Purpose. If anything goes bad on the usual (toughness) build, you eat shit and can't recover. If you somehow get disabled or otherwise can't attack during Until Death, you can't recover with Holy Revenant, and are basically fucked. If you go down, you're down to 1 wound also. With the health build, you not only get a full cooldown reset, you also get a ton of your (massive) health pool back passively without even attacking, and if you continue to fuck up, +2 wounds come at the cost of only 1 skill point, that you aren't using because flamer spam is better than Duelist anyway (but honestly, it's completely valid to ditch the wounds in favor of Duelist).
And before you come shilling Enduring Faith, remember that Shield of Contempt exists, which should be active VERY often when you're constantly pissing on everyone.

>>536624265
>But seriously, fucking kill shit.
I don't think this needs mentioning, because killing is literally everyone's job. I regularly tie somewhere in the middle for damage. I regularly deal the most damage out of the entire team when things go bad, but that usually only comes in bursts of nades + flamer. This is good and fine, because having the fallback option of deleting an entire general vicinity IS extremely useful. The only times I drop to bottom damage are when I'm not allowed any ammo for my flamer, in which case no shit, don't bring too many classes whose builds rely on ammo, and also forget a veteran.
The main weapons I would even consider over dueling sword are knife for uncanny, tac axe for its special, and shock maul for void shields. Relic blade isn't even on the list due to how insanely unwieldy and awkward it is without spamming attack speed, which Blazing Piety doesn't do. Also giving up the ability to stun mutants out of their charge or crushers out of an overhead seems extremely retarded to me.
>just dodge
I do, but we both know my psyker won't.

>>536625314
Usually havoc teams are already lacking in frontliners. If you have psyker and a vet, that's already two players who are likely backpedalling from the incoming mass. A flamer focused DS zealot is a third person who isnt going forward to meet them head on. I think its a waste of zealot's slot in a team. They could be instead fighting alongside the arbites/ogryn.
I find that my H40 games go better the more competent melee brawlers there are. Smoke veteran who mainly swings power sword, chorus zealot and 2 ogryn/arbites is peak darktiding.
And on the flipside if there's multiple people who actively try to avoid melee (so typical psyker and the average plasma vet), they tend to eat shit when situation devolves into a brawl.

Anyway, agree to disagree whatever. Chorus zealot is useful really however you build it.

>it uses toughness as its primary, and arguably only defensive layer
How are you this stupid

>>536626047
I agree with most of this post, but you don't seem to realize that a flamer focused health built zealot provides nearly as much crowd control all on its own, and is the main reason I think it pairs the best with zealot + psyker.
If a dense horde shows up, you chorus. Kraks will have removed all the crushers by the time chorus runs out. If the vet is running frags, the entire horde is now dead anyway and you stab the crushers in the head. You don't need a full damage build to do that. If more enemies than anticipated show up, you inevitably take health damage and just chorus again.

I don't even think you need more than 1 frontliner when a good zealot virtually doubles the value of the dude. For example, a single taunt ogryn with infinite gold toughness just locks enemies down ezpz, doesn't matter what the zealot does.

>>536626306
>toughness runs out more than once in the span of 2 minutes
>you instantly die
How are (You) this stupid?

get a room poxtidies and fuck it out

>>536626584
>with zealot + psyker.
vet + psyker, rather.
I also meant to bring up that flamer's primary fire has massive stagger.

>>536626584
I find that this teamcomp tends to just implode the instant you get one of the
>twins + beast of nurgle + captain (+ the normal spam of elites)
curveballs that havoc occasionally tends to throw out. Works wonderfully 90% of the time but occasionally you just gotta accept eating dirt. Whereas a more scrappy team comp can survive those situations at the price of the general elite spam requiring more effort (more fun melee brawling) to take out.

>>536627526
Burgle usually dies to flamer spam, it just kind of requires that the 4th guy can distract or otherwise lock down the rest of the enemies. Otherwise, the 4th can also just have so much boss damage that burgle, or even human bosses, just fucking implode. Ogryn and arbitrator do well here. Plus, it's insanely rare that twins + captain AND a full-fledged monstrosity spawn. That usually requires some retard running forward and triggering multiple spawns at the same time, which no good team should be doing anyway. I've stopped experiencing this phenomenon since I stopped accepting players without True Survivor.

My preferred 4th is definitely ogryn, arbitrator, or more traditional zealot, but stealth zealots also tend to have so much (melee and ranged) boss damage that it never becomes a problem with those either. That said, I've had my share of runs where it was just me, psyker and vet, with the vet doubling as sniper AND front line with power sword. Even just yesterday I had an ogryn who was disconnected for half the game, and we barely even noticed. To be fair, the director didn't throw as many bosses at us, it was just armor spam, but it was a fucking LOT of armor.

I want a havoc of 4 ogryns

>>536628489
sure thing anon, let me grab my twin stubber and gun lugger build real fast

Is this the worst event they ever made?

>>536629341
It certainly is the worst to play with shitty randoms. No one shooting gunner spam. Shooting at bursters that people are shoving. Magdumping everything and shooting all the barrels near friendlies.

>>536631584
It also gets infinitely worse with a single tardgryn or frag arbitrator. They don't seem to realize that their splash damage causes barrels to detonate, and this shit just happens constantly when these retards won't stop spamming.

>a Fatshark employee joins your Havoc 40 team
What do you do?

>>536632901
kick
probably there to observe and nerf

>>536632901
>inspect
>see a shit build
>ghost instead of declining to avoid shitting up my list again
Sorry bub, I don't accept useless ammo vacuums

>>536586636
dueling sword got buffed and is the most popular weapon under the new one. Try to know what you're talking about

>>536632901
I've played with this guy, only fatshark employee I know who is actually good. Did an auric maelstrom duo with me cause nobody joined and neither of us took damage

>>536634120
If I had the chance or any balls I'd try asking if he knows anything about new weapons.

>>536632901
>Fatshark employee
> Havoc 40

>>536634942
I mean I didn't bother asking anything like that cause I know exactly he can't say shit and I assume it's just a bothersome thing people keep asking
when they're bad I tell them I can't wait for the next bugfix patch to annoy them though

>>536635441
True.

>>536632901
he should drop the icon and the title from his name
let's see how he likes getting into groups without his badge

>>536637201
Sounds like you're projecting. I have no issue getting into games with True Survivor as my title.
There is a non-zero chance he's bad and couldn't get True Survivor if he tried, but I've also had fatsharks in my havocs and maelstroms, and they weren't notably good or bad.

How do I get teammates that don't die the nanosecond I stop babying them in havoc. Every single game, despite my best efforts to keep people alive by keeping shit off of them and sniping every single ranged special in sight as fast as I can, I swear they just explode to nothing. I'm getting really tired of being the last person alive as an ogryn and having to try to clutch. Even when I try to pick up other sturdy classes in h40 like arbiter and other ogryns, they just sort of die too.
Is there a mod to display platform icons in party finder similar to the gear inspect mod?

>>536619140
I look like that and do that

>>536633963
Wrong, you stupid little faggot
It's probably even going to get a nerf under the new combat director

>>536624601
Now factor for the toughness damage resistance into the math

>>536642089
Now read the entire post.

>>536642347
Nope

>>536641860
>wrong
No it's correct, the new combat director was responsible for all the post p13 changes

>>536642758
Then don't make some faggot reply implying that the post might be wrong when the issue is too nuanced to wrap up in a sentence short enough for your nigger brain to comprehend.

>>536642891
The weapon was handed to more classes because they were desperate to give contentm. No buffs and no combat director involvement

>>536641168
>How do I get teammates that don't die
You host your own games.
Invite only True Survivors, have at least 1 but ideally 2 sources of gold toughness, use the following mod:
>Inspect from Party Finder https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/455
Check players' builds, pay attention to their curios. If someone isn't running gunner resist, reject them.
I've had some really good runs without cuck bubble and with only 0-1 sources of gold toughness, but those are the exception to the rule. Very few players are self-sufficient enough to survive without crutches. Chorus + shout + bubble should be able to keep most retards safe most of the time. Do keep in mind that zealots aren't trustworthy players and often unexpectedly the weakest link. If the psyker spontaneously implodes, it's more likely teammates not protecting him properly, which is often the zealot's job, but most of them are too busy chasing scoreboard numbers to play correctly.
>Even when I try to pick up other sturdy classes in h40
Arbitrators are completely black and white. They're either carry GODS, or shitters that crutch on their OP class because they can't survive in havoc on any of the others. Most ogryns also suck, but I do think the class performs much better if you shower it in golden toughness nonstop. I personally prefer bull rush for DPS over taunt.

>Is there a mod to display platform icons in party finder
It's not really necessary. If someone made it to havoc 40, being an xbot or snoy isn't really an indicator for being bad anymore. I see just as many PC players play like utter shit. The following mod does what you want:
>Who Are You https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/127
Picrel is in the party finder. Note the xbox logo.
I'd also upload the modified truelevel to show current assignment, but apparently the banking caste nuked catbox or something.

>>536644765
Whats the cooldown on bullrush like? I really like the damage amp on taunt, because 20% amp on bosses for the branx is hilarious, especially for captains.

>>536645276
>Whats the cooldown on bullrush like?
26.4 with cooldown curios, so no higher than 18-ish with a couple Bruiser procs. The attack speed buff is 8 seconds, which lets you deal massive amounts of damage while your zealot is locking a boss in place.
Disclaimer: I'm not 100% on execution and can't really give any good tips because I don't play ogryn in h40 anymore, in part because I never did particularly well. I just prefer having bull rush over taunt in my team when I play zealot because the damage output is fucking obscene, and I never felt like I needed taunt because I don't run backstab. If I want control, I'd rather bring a LW mine arbitrator.

>>536645846
The attack speed buff is mostly good for bully clubs but you will still kill monsters faster with the branx

>>536646169
You can run branx without thrust and the attack speed will make a difference. I haven't tested it, so I'm not even sure there's a huge difference between unga bunga light attacks, heavies, heavies with 1 thrust stack, and heavies with 3 thrust stacks. Obviously thrust is amazing anyway because you might not get safe attacks in and can just hold a heavy in the meantime.

Oh, another thing worth mentioning is that taunt is probably still "better", especially with cooldown reduction, because it keeps your retards safe. I've learned that the hard way trying to play bull rush in aurics and watching my tards die left right and center.

>>536619525
>this is admitting you are completely braindead
you have admitted you are retarded long ago by taking flame grenades, flamer and +2 wound talents. anyone that follows your build deserves to stay hardstuck

>>536647747
Shitting on havoc builds you don't understand is soft admission of not even playing 40s, especially since you're posting on copeg.

>>536646554
There's advantages to bullrush in some maps and seeds. Crusher and bulwark walls get almost entirely countered by it, and they will not be able to pin you down since you just go through them.

>>536648000
You really like bringing up that you are 40 as if most of the thread isn't. You use +2 wounds. You're just one of many that entirely got carried to 40

>>536648115
>You really like bringing up that you are 40 as if most of the thread isn't.
Yes. Yes, that is fact.

>>536641168
get inspect party finder so you can filter out builds like >>536533191 from joining your game

>>536648438
t. toughness zissy who got xir ego injured by a superior build

>>536547658
>be arbitrator
>only ever get run ended in aurics by some bullshit scenario + flamers
>mutant grab + flamers
>monstrosity grab + flamers
>8 flamers at the same time forming a perfect surround
>flamers behind carapace while I'm sandwiched in
>it's always fucking flamers
>put on 3x flamer resist
>flamer doesn't even break my toughness while a mutant grabs me
Huh. Yeah okay I'm keeping this.

>>536641168
Need… pet… seal…

While I'm happy to see Vermintide get another map, holy fuck why can't they make more Darktide maps as well?

>>536656728
They will, when Vermintide 3 releases. Darktide will get loads of free new content, then

>>536656728
40k exists solely to get milked

The MkIII Exterminator Shotgun might be one of the sexiest shotguns in all of vidya. It rivals the feeling I had when I first used FEAR's SPAS-12, or Halo 1's shotgun, except it feels even better.

this darktide event sucks

>>536657441
>it's been 2 months since fatshit released the DLC
>somehow still no new arbites premium slop
If you ever wanted more evidence that the devs behind this game are incompetent and plain retarded who can't figure out what the fuck to do with the game.

>>536657857
>more evidence that the devs behind this game are incompetent and plain retarded
Well yes, they released 4 back to back hotfixes that somehow broke the game worse than it was before the hotfix.
3 of them were right before going on vacation for a month, and the fourth (and most recent) one just before a weekend, and they still haven't fixed it despite it being Monday lol.
Right now the game is barely playable without a mod to fix their fuckup.

>>536657857
>new arbites premium slop
So fucking tired of you dumbuck pig niggers.
Go take it out on GW, Fatshart already digitized the current look of the Arbites based on the new KT minis. All other art you see on the web (and it's not much) is outdated.
GW is super anal about this stuff and keeps Fatshart on the short leash, so we won't see any new Arbites drip anytime soon.

That said, no idea what's stopping them from making arbites themed skins for existing weapons like the bolter. Or how about those other weapons from the KT box, like the stubber or that grenade launcher?

>>536660967
>the stubber or that grenade launcher?
Probably saving it for the inevitable veteran rework, that will also come with the plasma and dueling sword reworks/nerfs, so they can deflect from the backlash on those by giving all the tards new shiny toys to play with.
Chances are, they'll be even more OP than redditors think the plasma is.

>>536660967
>but muh GW
I don't care.
When a dev studio's way of making money is through by making people buy skins for the class/weapons they use, but then they have not made ANY new cosmetics for 2 whole fucking months, it's signaling that the studio is either completely retarded and can't figure out basic monetization of their fucking video game (this isn't new fatshit has released new weapons and there's still no new premium cosmetics for many of them like the relicblades) then there is something SEVERELY fucking wrong with the studio.

dog bless dumb paypigs financing VT3

>>536662140
>there is something SEVERELY fucking wrong with the studio.
Yes, they're Swedish.

>>536660967
the outfit they have on commodore's vestures is not part of any official artwork or miniature. they are allowed to create new shit

>>536657857
I think they're horribly mismanaged and probably understaffed. The engine the game was made in was discontinued and a lot of what they've released since launch has been all over the place in regards to playable content, bug fixes, and system redesigns. The Chaos Spawn and ascension riser map were released as a completely different style of event

>>536657857
I think this is an interesting point, but not sure what it could imply. I think most of what has been in the premium shop since Arbites came out has been reruns. A number of anons have said the premium cosmetics are outsourced work, so there's a real possibility that they just have renewed the contract with the people they outsource the work to

What does your ideal havoc 40 team look like?

>>536663259
4 True Survivors, at least 2 of them on meme builds, just fucking around

>>536663259
Quad FotF Zealots (no DS or knives) for the most fun. Alternatively, quad Ogryns playing in character may sound extremely plebbit, but it is unironically fun when everyone really gets into it.

>>536663259
>ideal havoc
non existent, give chaos wastes instead of gay weaves

>>536648637
lol
>>536652956
TRVKE
>>536657150
that makes no sense

>>536663259
Not like that, that’s for sure.

>>536663259
legendary photo

>>536657532
Hi Crag :)
(you left your trip on again btw)

>>536661553
Grenade launcher will be strong as long as it's similar to the current Grenade gauntlet, especially since Survivalist easily keeps a low max ammo weapon topped up. Bolter will probably still be better in general after a plasma nerf.
Human heavy stubber will be a tossup since it'll have to be something more than 'autogun with more ammo'

>>536665316
>Survivalist easily keeps a low max ammo weapon topped up
Nope, bring a revolver into the psykhanium and test it for yourself. Survivalist is one of the few instances where fagshart was competent and coded it in a sensible way. It remembers fractions. If you would only regenerate half an ammo, it saves that for your next proc before giving you any back.
Survivalist is equally as effective on every weapon.
I think the only exception is plasma, because I remember it getting less ammo from pickups, so survivalist has indirectly more value here, but it's been a while since I've used that overrated piece of shit.

>>536663259
4 ASS titles, all on arbitrator with meta builds and comms

>>536662140
>I don't care for your sensible arguments, I want to shitfling
Well eat shit then, dumbass jeet.
>>536662432
>they are allowed to create new shit
Cool, where did I say they can't tho?

still having BLAST in kill floor 3 dear saars

>>536672440
Your 10 rupees will be deposited in your account later tonight, Pranjeet. Do not share this message with anyone else.

>>536669973
>Cool, where did I say they can't tho?
>>536660967
>GW is super anal about this stuff and keeps Fatshart on the short leash

>>536669973
>fatshit is too stupid or intentially retarded to make money with their game
>ur a pajeet
Sven, go home.

>>536674461
Did you greentext the wrong part of my post? Or are you legit retarded?
>>536674867
>GW rewamped the visuals for beetus in KT
>gave them all a very specific, standardized, uniformed look to move them further away from Judge Dredd
>GW approves or vetoes any decisions FS makes concerning their property, which in turn slows FS pipeline
>low IQ fecaloid on 4chan: WHERE MY BIWEEKLY BEETUS SLOP YOU MADARCHODS
Why are you even crying about it, it's not like you can afford it?

why?

>>536677276
>at least two players
I want to say "servers aren't cheap" but even Payday 3 has an option of starting an online match solo.

this event is so ass

Next class just leaked.

>>536677540
can you not do solo missions in ratclick?

how do you guys play this game 2+ hours plus a day.

>>536680502
"2+ hours" is 2-3 matches and some time spent idling in the hub looking at paypig cosmetics

How much longer does it have left?

>>536681186
14 days I'd reckon

>>536681186
two more weeks I'd say

>>536681186
A fortnight I'd wager

>>536643959
>dueling sword wasn't buffed
falsifying history moment

>>536683438
Take your meds, schizo

>>536681186
isn't it also on consoles? i imagine there's a sizeable playerbase there if they're still eargerly updating it

>>536685613
steam discussions grade cope

>>536685613
>>536687617
Without concrete numbers, all that's left is guessing. The PC and console gaming markets have very similar figures, and while I don't actively go looking for it, I do also see console players somewhat frequently in poxclick.
If I assume console/PC metrics between both games are roughly the same which I think is being generous, considering the amount of thirdies buying it for discounted prices on Steam, that still only puts the player numbers at some 3k-ish. And that's not particularly impressive.

Not that darktide is doing much better, mind. Fagshart are just too incompetent for a live service model. They can't even get their fucking hotfixes to work without introducing gamebreaking bugs with each patch.

>>536687617
It's just reason. How the hell can they afford to update a 8 year old game still if not?

>>536692475
By siphoning money away from the other, more popular, more successful title through Sw*dish upper mismanagement magic?

>>536692475
They can't afford it
They need to cut vermintards off completely for the sake of their company and for the sake of their real fans

>>536692608
>mismanagement
LOL

>>536692889
I mean it's clearly intentional, but by any objective metrics, fatshark's management is extremely retarded, so yes, mismanagement.

>>536685613
>>536691343
>>536692475
I can confirm at least that you can still find games on PS5 in 2 minutes max, usually less.

>>536663259
3x ogryns with branx and one book bitch zealot

>>536663259
4 arbitrators

Be honest how often do you killsteal the arbitesissy doggies?

>>536700394
I ignore dog pinged ragers or whatever because I won't know if there's a remote det coming. If a shotgunner dares rack his gun tho, he's getting domed no matter what color.

>>536700394
It's on sight for me. I refuse to let arbeetus players feel like they're contributing significantly.

for me its +1 wounds

Is aliens fireteam elite any fun? I got a free month of game pass and it's the only /coopg/ I see on there I haven't played. Are there like classes and shit? Do they feel distinct? Are they fun?

>>536679605
it would be kinda cool if he was revealed to be Grendyl

So what’s everyone up to/playing now?

>>536704262
Stuck on a forklift wishing with every fiber of my being that I was at home screaming at my stupid fucking bunga team

>>536703594
It is very fun. Defined classes, and a somewhat unique perk building system for fleshing them out even more. Bots got updated to scale with difficulty, so you can push up on your own easier.
And there are mods for even better bots and other stuff. Mods disable public matchmaking, but otherwise you're free to muck about without having your progression or gains affected.

>>536705273
I should mention, that it's replayability is a little lower than say darktide, as the core maps have mostly fixed spawns with 3 variations it chooses from. Once you know which set your on there are very little surprises. Though there are challenge modifier cards to spice things up And the dlc maps added some more randomness.

>>536704262
Picked up Gunfire Reborn a while back but never played it; finally got around to it last week and have been glued to it ever since. I will never forgive either the furries or the chinese for hiding this game from my sight for so many years.

>>536705273
Might as well give it a go then. Thanks anon. Could you describe the classes a little?

>>536703703
hasn't grendyl been long confirmed to be that old lady that looked like Mom from futurama from the launch trailer?

>>536706750
that's shipmistress brahms

>>536706750
No. That’s Brahms and nothing of the sort has been confirmed.

>>536704262
going to play Ratclick event today once I get home
aside from that still need 40 missions done on Arby, don't want to speed through the lower difficulties

How do i stop dying?

>>536710824
Have you tried using the dodge button? Maybe blocking on occasion?

>>536710824
do NOT get hit

this event fucking sucks

>>536710824
Stupid fucking filthy sea lion piece of shit, God's most vile and putrid creature created to test our will. Fuck sea lions. All of my friends FUCKING HATE SEA LIONS.

>>536711864
what’s wrong with them

>>536692475
>>536692608
>>536692760
How stupid are you mouthbreathers?
They're using VT2 to onboard new devs. Its a small investment to have a tiny (changing) crew working on it and getting experience. They can take risks with the new content and test things out.

>>536711329
>>536711529
i got shot anyway :(

>>536713830
Wrong, furthermore the devs that make cosmetics are the same ones that would be making new enemies, maps and weapns if they werent making cosmetics

>>536685463
So do you actually not remember the dueling sword had worse damage values in the past or are you just pretending

>>536717235
The duelling swords never recieved a buff to their damage values under the new combat director
Deal
With
It

>>536717670
Yea it did retard lol
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3753246843705367917
This is p14, the combat directors last act in office was p13. Kill yourself misinfo peddler

>>536717139
Cosmetics are made by literal trainees my man. Not the same people as the experienced devs working on Fatshark's next game and the ones working on the genestealer cult expansion to DT.

>>536718462
Noooo consolebros he actually remembers

>>536718725
>the ones working on the genestealer cult expansion to DT
That's never coming out.

>>536713830
deranged cope

>>536720394
February 2026

>>536681186
Doesn't matter, people at Fatshark are willing to work on it and support it even if it's not profitable. Only VT3 would make them stop working on it

>>536721374
never saw fattyshark employee in Ratclick 2 with almost 3000 hours
didn't play dwon

>>536721374
>>536722018
Devs just showing up in games and publicly opining on the internet is such a modern retardation.
Once upon a time they kept their usernames secret and didn't always signal they were devs unless it was explicitly promotional.
All its going to do is invite interactions like this where they drop or ignore you or give you the runaround at best if they're not completely autistic while only filtering for simping interactions.

>>536722018
my wife aqshy joined me once

>>536718462
>Changed Force Swords dodge limit from Infinite to 5 (same as Combat Knife)
i miss it, especially with deflector

Fatshark dev here, ama

>>536726357
VT3 when

>>536726357
Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

>>536718462
Thanks for spoonfeeding me, bitch

>>536726357
why haven't you publicly executed alexus yet

>>536727309
>>536726357
my bad, I mistook you for the other swedish studio
you know, the one with the good game

>>536727424
alexus didn't work on payday 2

when was payday 2 good

>>536726357
why do you hate your players and why a weapon dlc takes so long

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-74-1-8-6-patch-notes/112053
zealot bros we can finally play havoc again

There goes the two easiest Havoc maps. If you didn't get your easy 40 yet, you've lost your chance for a good while.

>>536728887
so people with title were shitters all along?

>>536729045
I've been advocating in this thread for our resident babbies to exclusively play Dreyko and Sycorax, without Final Tall nor Encroaching Garden, for easy wins to reach 40 because those maps are signiiiificantly easier and shorter than others. Now every present map is very challenging, and the available modifiers are a bit cancer.

>>536726551
>>536726554
>>536727309
>>536727424
>>536728660
I think i'll pass on answering these posts. Good luck to you!

>>536728887
>dreyko
>easy
The end event can be an absolute nightmare. One of the most challenging in the entire game. Insane spawns.

>>536726357
Are we getting new weapons in the next major update?
Also is the commissary ever getting updated? It was last updated like 2 years ago.

feast of grimnir event is up and patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/feast-of-grimnir-double-xp-limited-time-event-out-now/111969

>>536736054
ratgods is the event good? i'm a white european and can't play right now

>>536737540
carry a cog up a hill without getting hit,
fight 4 bile trolls at once
final fight with the alpha bile troll

it's good enough to feel short

>>536731474
>The end event
That's not even the hard part about Dreyko. It's the stairs after the maglock, and the two-floored scaffolding section leading to the large medicae room. The staircase always sucks, and the area after will very, very frequently spawn a boss, and the terrain there sucks for fighting those.
The finale is honestly just a team composition check. Bubble + push spam, or chorus + someone shooting bombers tends to make it relatively easy. Extraction isn't that difficult either, your team just needs to not be retarded like that one time it took these fuckers four minutes of flailing around on the lower level to kill a burgle while out of ammo instead of just FUCKING SUICIDING SO WE CAN EXTRACT UPSTAIRS

That said, I do think Dreyko is among the easier maps. I can't immediately think of another easy-ish map besides Sycorax.

Just realized I havent completed a h40 in over a week
Was I the hardstuckie all along...?

no, just home of sexual

I will rape you

>>536740507
Bleh, my experience with the dreyko finale is that there's always half a dozen grenadiers throwing their stuff out of line of sight on top of the tree and its a nightmare to do the event without proper coordination. Also it just spawns way more elites than any other finale. 20 gunners behind cover or on high ground blasting at the team is the status quo. Then on top of all this its the only extraction where you can genuinely get wiped. The fucking twins can spawn during the extraction, its insane.
Something like the desert relay station is far easier. Or either of the assassination ones.

>>536737540
hello fellow european, i just did a quick run with bots and i think it's pretty good
the map is ok, not too long, the boss has some interesting new mechanics
there is some new dialogue between the krubersreik five, okri also talks to you throughout the mission
i think it's not as good as a quiet drink though

>>536742805
Skill issue.
>bombers
Have two people pay attention to them. You can usually afford as much. They also stop being an issue with psyker bubble. A bolter vet only needs to know of their existence to delete them, so a dedicated spotter just keeps them pinged.
>gunners
Same deal. Less so about bubble, more about bolter (or even flamer) suppressing and then killing them.
>twins during extraction
As far as I'm aware, twins are guaranteed to spawn during SOME portion of the mission anyway, so you just keep track of whether they did spawn, and then prepare accordingly. If they haven't spawned by the time the door opens, get ready for the worst. The large room there is fine for fighting them anyway, and I don't really consider twins to be a big issue on their own. It's when another 1-2 bosses spawn alongside them that things get dicey.
But it's Dreyko. One player can run to extraction and everyone else just cliffs themselves and you get the W.

>desert relay station
I find all of the sand maps to be a fucking nightmare actually. Whatever the assassination mission is with the really tall drop into the large room with the crashed train just before the finale is somewhat easier than others, but uncoordinated teams often eat shit there anyway. Mostly in the large room just before the stairs, with the medicae on the right. Frequently spawns bosses, and somehow tards die either there, or right up the stairs.
At least it's not smelter. The first two rooms there are fucking evil. Same for clandestium whose start feels borderline impossible sometimes (because the positioning skill check is too much for many morons, even at h40).

>>536736054
>Bots now avoid damage circles in Enchanter’s Lair.
>Bots are now able to detect attacks from multiple enemies at once that don’t directly target them.
>Bots are now less prone to dodge into enemies.

>>536743678
>ratbots are seeing active improvements
>poxbots still have both their thumbs up their asses but somehow still play better than the average pubbie
poxbros...

i like some of the new dialogue in the new mission

>>536726357
can you go and get raped by jeets and somali niggers please?

>>536743431
So you literally admit that the finale requires coordination, competence and a specific teamcomp to not turn into a clusterfuck?
Its objectively a difficult finale when every other one except smelter is an afterthought where the finale is the most trivial part of the mission.
Like, no shit its fine with a competent team and personally my true survivor happened on dreyko. I'd still rank it as one of the more difficult maps but ymmw.

>>536745353
>So you literally admit that the finale requires coordination, competence and a specific teamcomp to not turn into a clusterfuck?
I guess??
It's just that out of all the times I've run Dreyko, it's been easy more often than it's been difficult, and the times it's been difficult were due to shit teammates that struggled through the entire run, not specifically the finale or whatever. But that's all of havoc, even Sycorax.
Maybe you or the groups you play with just favor massively different comps? I know plebbit loves to shill rumbler ogryn, that I personally put relatively little value on. Some swear by having 2 arbitrators. I personally find it pretty rare that zealot/vet/psyker team comps struggle unless the zealot is a complete mouthbreather.

Darktide broke my fucking mods

>>536746968
No it didn't.
Run the batch file, retard.

>>536747027
I did, I'm now crashing to desktop the instant I load into the morningstar

>>536743678
some players are incapable of these things
hopefully this means that bots will no longer ignore lone enemies attacking them from behind and reacting only after getting hit or stand around with their ranged weapon out while being attacked

Nice fucking patch, sweden

>DT still doesn't have proper mod launcher
barbaric

>>536740983
I haven't completed H40 in 2 months.
I just can't be bothered, it's boring.

>>536747653
Instead of a modloader Fatshark should just include some of the mods into Darktive.
Like numeric UI.

>>536747641
signs of the zealot talent changes soon, like they said

>>536747958
Woah, you want them to work when it's this close to halloween? That's like a three week holiday at least.

kerneldivers
>gets two new slop bonds
>multiple new enemies
>weapons
>stratagems
>mission types
>MAP SIZED BOSS BATTLES
shopclick gets
>a few hotfixes
truly some swedoids are built different

>>536747140
cheater BTFO

>>536726692
spoonfed you my cum after I dominated you yes

>>536746968
>>536747140
Did you have the temp buff fix
try turning that off

>>536755552
Power DI also currently crashes, someone on the modding discord posted a hotfix.
https://litter.catbox.moe/yjpsdm0y2z7ba8yv.zip
>test download it after I just zipped the file
>firefox says it contains malware even though it's just a single .lua
kek
I haven't tested whether this works yet. Just putting this here for those that don't want to go there.

I also had an unexplained crash earlier toward the end of a mission, with the crash log giving literally zero useful information in a way that looked like a game bug, and not mod related. Maybe fagshart, in usual fagshart fashion, just broke the game again because they're retarded.

>>536756202
I think firefox tags zip files from catbox as viruses on principle, I've had this happen repeatedly

any1 wnt 2 havoc geimu????????

>>536759485
Post. Code. Now.

Ratclick event has hidden trolls that can be accessed via barrels scattered on the map, each passage needs 2 barrels
you can also repeated the event challenges
had fun, would recommend

>>536762556
3476146291

>>536763032
why do ratgods get all the content...

Today I saw a psyker using a force sword and doing a quick stab at the most insane pace I've ever seen, to the point of completely animation breaking and he was doing unreal amounts of dps
What the fuck was that? Did I just witness a scripter or is this an actual tech no one told me about?

>>536763032
even the events are way better in vt2

I AM THE COMET! I BURN THE IMPURE!

>>536769169
Shouldn't it be a Kerillian quote since she has a Scottish accent

The new rat map is kino, it's so nice to see the keep dressed with the Sonnestill decorations after so many years.
Which makes me think, at this point it's pretty obvious Fartshart is not dropping ratclick any time soon.
I sincerely doubt they are working on VT3, the writing is on the wall and they've been doing too many QoL updates to the ratgame.

>>536765295
The force push followthrough stab, yeah? That does deal a fucking insane amount of damage, but I'm not aware of any way to spam that, meaning it's probably some bug that isn't commonly known, or a mod that forces animation states, which ... I'm not sure the server actually checks for, so it might be possible to cheat?

>>536769465
Don't they still need to release those new weapons they said were coming last year?

>>536769465
>the writing is on the wall
they have reorganized the campaign menu, reworked the thp talents, added a mode no one fucking wanted, made a small campaign out of literal athel yenlui and darktide assets, and promised a weapon pack alongside an unnamed chaos wastes update and an "additional ranked weave" changes sometime in the future
this is without considering the resident ratleaker who claimed multiple times about an Athel Lore expansiojn (which i believe it's just the verminous campaign), BtU2, and whatever "unstable weaves" was
it's not outrageous to think that yeah, they are gonna keep vt2 floating for a bit longer than we all thought

>>536769791
>they have reorganized the campaign menu
To me that was the biggest way of telling Fatshark clearly has many more map updates planned for the game.

>>536769791
both total war and Vermintide somehow keep fantasy alive despite GW axing it around 2015
we live in interesting times

>>536769169
HOLY LUSTRAATIOOOON

>>536769509
Yeah, it looked like he was scripting which was honestly my first thought but gave it the benefit of the doubt. Watching the recording now It looked way too clean not to be, however. I know there was a script mod for the surge staff m1 auto attack build to infinitely machine gun the entire level, but I'm not even sure if it's possible to do what this guy was doing so it might actually just be a case of straight up hacking/cheating. Even in h40 he was shredding bosses.

i fucking love kerillian's dialogue in the new mission
something as simple as new voicelines really helps you still appreciate the game after so many years

>>536726357
Can I violently persuade you to make vt3 without age of sigmar right now in my basement while you are handcuffed to a bedspring connected to my car battery after you wake up?

>>536771316
Staff leftclick spam was a simple animation cancel that was theoretically doable with extremely well-timed manual inputs. The most broken offender wasn't actually the lightning staff (even if the DPS was obscene) but rather the flame staff because the attack speed was somehow even more stupid, and you would infinite stagger everything with infinite cleave while having comparable DPS to the secondary, it was absolutely insane.
That was just a script that did inputs for you.
The video you posted doesn't even look like he's pushing at all, just shitting out the attack in a way that shouldn't be possible no matter what your inputs are, so I'd have to assume it's some kind of mod that changes the combo or animation logic, that the server then doesn't check to validate.
I'm just surprised this guy is using the regular force sword, not the force greatsword, but maybe the DPS is somehow higher with the smaller one. Or it's a drooling retard skiddy who downloaded someone else's cheat and doesn't even know how to use it effectively.

I don't know whether the game actually does allow you to tinker with the weapon_templates and how they handle animation combos, but if it IS possible, such a cheat mod shouldn't be too difficult to cobble together. I've never looked at that side of the code so I'm not sure.

>>536728887
Enclavum Baross is generally short and easy besides the power cell segment. It's one of the events that definitely show whether the team is competent or braindead.

>>536771316
looks like he's rapidly doing the light1-blockcancel with the deimos. Most probably a macro/script to do it so smoothly. But doing it manually combined with Scriers Gaze is still pretty good for pumping out high finesse crits.

>>536771316
>>536773890
If it's really just L1 into animation cancel with lots of attack speed, then Skitarius (mod) can do that natively without any changes.

Is it scoreboard or whoareyou thats crashing me after mission end? The scoreboard shows correctly but as soon as it prompts to load back to the morningstar, the game crashes to desktop
There's also BornReady but I doubt that's doing anything

>>536774165
Check
%appdata%\Fatshark\Darktide\console_logs
for the most recent log file, then Ctrl+F
<>
and check whether you can make sense of the error report, that should tell you what's doing it.

If you can't troubleshoot that somehow, ask the nerds in the Darktide modding Discord I guess. Alternatively disable mods in batches and run games until you stop crashing, then enable the mods you disabled in those batches on by one to see if you can single out the one that does crash you, but that's a lot of work.

>>536726357
Don’t post selfies here

>>536712773
One of them killed his family when he was little.
>>536717323
True.
>>536722839
True.

>>536719958
>consolebros
meds

>>536769465
It seems really likely to me that GW is/has been making them great offers to do an age of smegma game. Tide games are some of the most successful GW games so to me it seems like they would want them to advertise all their settings this way

>>536740983
I look like that and do that.
>>536746968
>>536747140
Deserved. Get better.

>>536759220
Damn, I wonder why everything has it out for Catbox. Even ISPs will automatically block it depending on which one you have.

>>536759485
>>536762556
*cums in u*

>>536776362
Retards do be downloading zipped exes off it and run them

>>536776362
>>536776785
What ever happened to natural selection? Not letting users have the freedom to do what they want is fucking cancer, just because some sub-human droolers can't tell an mp3 from an exe.

Is it worth reinstalling the game, for this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn3BViHPDh8

>>536765295
>>536769509
>>536771316
There's mods that let you automate inputs. It's "technically" doable manually but you aren't gonna do it manually, the inputs are too tight. Via those mods you can do weird broken QQ swap resets. It's gay and only faggots do it.

>>536777328
yeah the map is ludo

did you all know that the hotfix introduced 5 man squads?!

Darktide: the cope times

rat rat rat rat ratatata rata tata

>>536407606 (OP)
Does anyone have a voiceline spam mod for darktide? tried to edit for the emperor but didn't work and it requires a lot of effort anyway, Does anyone have the suppossedly unlisted mod?

havent touched veteran in awhile
is brutal momentum still good on power sword?
or should i put slaughterer on it

>>536771316
unrelated to whatewver you're posting about but why does your video clip look so smooth compared to mine?
do you have vsync on?

>>536780539
You put Sunder on it because it lets you fully cleave through carapace

>Playing in Vermitide
>I have all the skins I want available to buy, updates and events with brand new content
>Playing in Darktide
>I have to wait 2 or 3 years to buy the skin I want, bug fixes are considered "updates" and events are slight changes of base game
wew lad

>>536781220
on the mk 6 power sword or the other one?
if its the mk 6 are you still supposed to do the push attack into overhead light on carapace/crushers or what?

>>536407606 (OP)
>Helldivers 2 is getting interior zones before Darktide gets planetside deployment
FatShark sucka my cock!

>>536782073
Sunder's cleave increase works on all attacks, fatshark is just bad at wording things in a way that's easily understandable. You put Sunder on both.
I do prefer the one with the perfectly horizontal heavies (that doesn't stab) because I don't really use it for single target, but I do acknowledge that the stab is powerful. It's just awkward because Power Cycler isn't coded to correctly function with the stab, so you need to button mash if you want to continue the charged attacks, else you lose it.

>>536777328
no nigga stop supporting VT2 so they'll make another new game and Darktide can start getting DLC like they promised it would at launch.

>>536782448
>Coping this hard

>>536782448
It always makes me lol that people actually think like this
>grrr this beloved game is too beloved it's keeping the entirely different dev team on my preferred game give up!
no here's the reality: if VT2 got no love, DT still wouldn't get love
the devs are too shit. They won't suddenly start working harder and produice better quality because the other teams game died. You are a crab in a bucket

>>536783639
Nah, he is right.
VT2 is almost 10 years old at this point. Fatshark still continuing to pour resources into it like making new maps is retarded both financially and resource perspective.
Darktide even now has like more than double the players than VT2 has.

The actual truth here is just that the Fatshark management is genuinely retarded and can't seemingly allocate resources in a sensible manner at all.
>should we make new content for this decade old game that has at best like 1.2k players at any given time
>or should we make new content and shift focus on this game we released less than 3 years ago and has like 6k people playing it
Fact is, VT2 is practically at the end of its life span and FS realistically cannot and should not keep supporting it endlessly because in the long run it is nothing but a money sink.

head hurts when you talk

>>536786420
>Nah he is right
No he is not retard. These are different dev teams. They're not going to work harder just because the other game died. You're like a little emotional girl whining that your barbie is less beloved. Nobody cares, it doesn't have real world influence on the developers, they're clueless worthless faggots who don't like to put effort into things regardless.

>>536779178
The extra bot has been showing up in the loading valkyrie for a while now, that said, I wonder if people still manage to get extra bots in game these days.

>>536786835
>They're not going to work harder just because the other game died.
No, but the devs from the VT2 team can be shoved into the DT's team which gives them more hands to do more shit with.
Acting like that game studios don't shuffle their devs around different team based on projects is really dumb.

Man, Psyker is really fun. I love popping enemies heads.

>>536787653
>but the devs from the VT2 team can be shoved into the DT's team
You realize they could just hire more devs if they needed more, and they did?
You seem to be under this weird impression that
A) VT2 doesn't turn a profit
and
B) VT2 is hogging resources from DT

both of which are absolutely retarded angles. They have like 5 devs on VT2. They have like 80 devs on DT. I'm sure that DTs budget is 200x bigger than VT2s. It wouldn't make a difference, retard

why are DT only fags so salty?
can't enjoy game unless there is 40Faggot sticker on it?

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only butthurt.

>>536787918
>They have like 80 devs on DT. I'm sure that DTs budget is 200x bigger than VT2s.
I'm just going to assume you're correct because that sounds about par for the course, but then where the fuck is the LITERALLY ANYTHING? Are they just hosting orgies with hookers in the office or what the fuck is going on? Because I don't notice them doing any goddamn work whatsoever. Arbites released in a broken state, got more and more broken with every supposed hotfix, remained broken for a month of vacation, and when they finally fixed it, they broke the game again for EVERYONE this time. They only finally fucking fixed arbites, and the resulting fuckups, to the level of functionality it should've been
>looks at calendar
TWO MONTHS AGO.

I can't get to Borgna troll
How the hell do you get to those barrels stuck behind those wooden unbreakable walls?

>>536788982
Learn English Juanita.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/fatshark-do-you-understand-what-player-retention-is/111737/184
>if a game isn’t giving me the room to push myself past yesterdays limits it aint worth my time cause i aint playing to sit back in a power fantasy but actually see increase in physical skills such as reflexes, aim, movement etc.
>increase in physical skills
>physical skills
I luaughed hard.

>>536791386
nothing is wrong with those sentences, for the supposed proud paypiglets you sure can't seem to afford to buy VT2 (hint: it is cheaper with dlcs than your *reddit shovel noises* skin)

>>536790597
>but then where the fuck is the LITERALLY ANYTHING?
Devs suck dick and dont give a fuck
management sucks dick and doesn't give a fuck

this is really what it boils down to. The 5 devs working on VT2 care more so they put more effort into it. Resource allocation is not the problem

>darksissies seething vermintide is beloved while darktide is barely tolerated
tired of this rerun

Alright, I have finally completely solved the new ratclick event.
Managed to kill all 3 secret bosses in one game, which took us 56 minutes.
That was fun, ngl.

>>536791702
Damn Juanita. You need to learn to read it *and* write it. Good luck.

Darkturd

>>536794312
poor Cletus
destitute and illiterate

wait wtf there's ANOTHER new map for ratclick?

>>536795259
yes, they're clearly trolling darktide

>>536795259
new assets
instead of purely linear paths you have crossroads that open up to new areas
secret bosses in each areas(and as predicted they have chaos wastes boss modifiers(
new voicelines from Ü5 and Okri has a voice now
no idea why DT can't throw together new map from existing assets with boss rush event, just say sephoni cooked up new warp lsd fueled training for rejects

>>536769589
>VT2 still getting more weapons than poxclick
fucking kek.

>>536794772
>admitting it
Glad to see you’ve come to the acceptance stage at least

Recently moved. No longer can be wired. Cloud gaming is shit. Can't play Darktide comfortably. So I download Vermintide. Starting playing again from scratch because I switched platforms. Play offline because I don't want to deal with others or connection issues. See this event and want to capitalize on double EXP because there's a scroll telling me its going on. Don't see any event, or double exp in the offline mode. Fine. I'll level a character in online and see if its any fun. GAME DISCONNECTS THE FIRST 2 MINUTES OF MY VERY FIRST MISSION. F YOU! THIS IS WHY I PLAY OFFLINE! Let me bring my offline character over to play online you cucks.

>>536621953
>pic
kek

>>536729447
kek!

It seems you need to start with the cog room with two barrels if you want to do all the secrets in Feast of Grimnir. There's a key there which unlocks doors to barrels in the other areas.

While I'm seething. Give Darktide an offline mode and bots able to hold their own in aurics.

>>536798361
i got shilled wireless internet with le huge download speeds. kek as if im falling for that im sure itll suck to play multiplayer games with it compared to a wired connection with 1/2 the speed

>>536799767
also the bots should be our alt characters like in vermintide.

>>536799767
Vermintide 2 gets constant updates to improve the bots.

darksisters... we haven't gotten a map in so long... maybe the rumors of them using shopclick money to fund ratclick are true...

>>536800849
Last map was dark communion unless you count mortis trials

Fatshark is using all their money to fund vermintide instead of darktide and we're all pulling our hair out now. What an obvious mistake! Someone needs to tell their CEO

Darktide:
The cope times

I just got tuesdayed

so when's vermintide 3?

Stuff from Darktide that Vermintide 3 needs to have?
>sprint
>slide dodging
>machine guns

>>536804767
I've come to detest sprinting and sliding in DT. Yes, it's satisfying at first, but soon you'll just be slidespamming and sprinting everywhere because it'd be retarded not to and it's actually kinda silly feeling. It also makes it way too easy to avoid enemies. I've never seen anyone just waltz through a level and wait at the elevator equivalents in VT2. In DT, it happens all the time

>>536804767
mutants
I just really like the "BLOOEEUUURGHHH" out of nowhere
ratclick has no equivalent
conversely, poxclick should have chaos psykers that act like life leeches and blight stormers

>>536805187
Aren't bestigors kinda similar? If thats what they're called. The goats that charge at you and you have to side dodge

>>536804987
>I've never seen anyone just waltz through a level and wait at the elevator equivalents in VT2
Clearly you've never seen what happens when a handmaiden consumes a purple potion and finds another one along the way. Half the level rushed through while invisible. Though that's only really possible when the rest of the team is down.

>>536805570
Now that you mention it, yeah I guess they are.

>>536805642
true, but in DT you can do it on any class without anything like that. You can just hold sprint through most of the level and hit the spawncap and the game gets easier because the spawned enemies are all in a room like 5 rooms behind you even.
I'm not that cross about sprinting but it's odd that the enemies can't fucking keep up. Like you'd think there would be enemies that prevent you from sprinting past areas or something.

>>536805642
and other hilarious tales from champion

>>536806135
You don't even play the game do you?

>>536806120
That's what the spawn doors are supposed to be for. Once an enemy goes in one they can teleport to a spawn door near you. This game mechanic isn't instantly obvious, but if you're running exec stance/DD/EO ie the abilities that highlight specialist enemies, you can actually see them teleport from one room to another.

>>536805187
Blight stormers and leeches were the worst part of VT so no. And their equivalent would actually be Chaos sorcerers not psykers.
>>536802334
Deserved.

>>536807258
only problem is it doesn't work and you can just sprint through shit faster than the enemies can shuffle through the doors
They probably could make it work that way though by speeding up that whole process but I think at that point you're looking at CPU limitations on their shitty amazon/epic servers or whatever they use I forgot. Enemies already often just stand around and do nothing when you hit the spawncap to begin with, I think it's just hardware capped

>>536779017
Where's the map btw? Cant find it on the usual menu.
>>536782448
>Darktide
Sorry bro, but I don't give a shit about it.

>>536808842
Weekly event

>>536808875
Wait. I can't play it privately?
That sucks.

>>536809308
Wait nvm, I'm doing it.
I'm dumb.

>>536810730
nope. I thought I did, but someone joined.
Guess I won't partake in the event.

>>536811071
autism-kun just kick them

>>536809308
>>536810730
>>536811071
retard

>>536811347
But I don't want to be rude though. (just like this guy >>536812060 )

>>536812260
again, retard
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1495937978

>>536812470
>Mod
I thought you didn't get any exp. on Modded Realm.

>>536704262
Downloaded and started playing this. Pretty fun. Gonna play some more when I get back home from work.

>>536812636
>>536812470
Lol it was so simple. Didn't even need mods.

Serious question, why do Darktide maps suck to play and are monotonous and boring, yet FLC Vermintide maps are some of the most fun things? Are there two different teams at Fatshark?

>>536816095
Fatshark loves ratclick and hates poxclick

>>536816179
I salute my foolish poxclick brothers who are financing my favorite game.

Where are the hidden trolls anyway? Do they all need two barrels? I've only found the one before the water gates.

>>536816095
>Darktide maps
Designed by the average industrial aesthetic loving swede. They love pipes and concrete like they love death metal, no one knows why.
>Vermintide maps
Designed by passionate fanboys pining for Warhammer Fantasy fjords

>>536812636
retard x3

>>536407606 (OP)
OHNONONONO SISTERS WHAT'S GOING ON?!?!?! THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOTM SLOP NO?!?!? WHY THEY KEEP MOGGIN US?!?!

>>536818245
>kerneldivers
Hope you like giving your personal data to the CCP

>>536818245
i'm terrorizing xboxers so that explains one

>lights out
>team unga
>gunlugger unga
>everyone gives him ammo
>2 bolters
>decide to trigger a daemonhost for shits and giggles
>everyone realizes just how much damage we can deal
>become coordinated daemonhost extermination squad cutting the entire health bar in half before it can even get up
>dies during chorus without getting a single hit in
>3 monstrosities spawn in total
>none of them gets a single attack in also
>didn't even get to shoot burgle in the mouth, it just fucking died to the other two dudes shooting it in the ass
>the only down was the psyker who hadn't learned how to block push yet despite being marked havoc 36
This might have been the ungaest auric run I've had all month.

https://youtu.be/8InwtpNSOiA


Are we ready for the true fatshart killer?

>>536820426
>Streum On
They're even worse than fagshart somehow.

>>536820426
Can't wait for this game to actually be really good but get zero players because of no advertising and then lose support in 5 months

>>536820426
Fatshart was already killed by HD2, it's massively more popular in every metric

>>536821082
Jesus I just checked the video
>official channel
>6 days ago
>12k views
Dead even before arriving.
Also the music is still insufferable.

>>536818245
I'm happy for them

>>536818369
i'm beginning to trust the CCP about as much as i trust the American government, honestly. i don't know how much worse they could be at this point.

>>536824182
Naive idiot

>>536824182
knowledgeable genius

>>536776123
It's okay, I bounced back and stronger than ever before. Didn't lose a single game today

>>536824182
Simpleton buffoon

>>536827575
damn that scoreboard is useless

>>536824182
Wise savant

>>536820426
The attack chains are so basic it's practically skyrim without the open world stuff.

>>536722839
Once I saw a Tripwire dev in-game right after the big RS2 update that added ANZAC forces. I told him the update was fucking unplayable because they didn't have shorts and he laughed.

>>536831445
I'm also worried that this will be the case. It's hard to do good melee combat and Tide games have spoiled me.

how is the new rat content ?

>>536835425
Map is solid fun; Though playing it reminded me that many people have never learned how to fight monsters.
Bot improvements are noticeable, they can carry themselves in cata easier.

Been a long time since I played Vermintide 2, got the starter mission on load up. Good ole times. Funny seeing Bardin singing in the cage.

>>536835425
passable

Hey did they fix the icon crash or do I have to keep using the mod fix?

>>536835425
You must get a lot of pussy with all those rats in your house.

>>536836419
>kruber and bardin stuck in cuck cages
>sienna explodes fighting slave rats
>kerillian solos rat ogre and patrol
>saltzpyre just afk at the exit waiting for everyone else
its amazing how fatshark was able to predict what vermintide 2 gameplay was like from the start

>new Darktide map announced
>"Stop me if you've heard this one before, but..."

Did shillings get easier to get? Maybe I'm just misremembering? It's been maybe 2 or 3 years since I played VT2 frequently. Install was so slow.

>soloing event
>stupid bots are two rooms behind me
>players join
>they are put where the bots were two rooms behind me
fucking retarded

What do we think about using a recon lasgun with infernus on chorus zealot? This is what j*ficus recommends but I don't think I have ever actually seen a zealot using one in havoc.

>>536837615
Less amazing when you remember that there was, in fact, a Vermintide 1
and it had the most memorable moments of the -tide games by far

>>536839853
Will it kill stuff? Yeah, of course. Will it do so at the cost of the entire team's ammo supply? ... Refer to the first answer.

>>536838906
How did it go again? I haven’t heard that one before

>>536840015
That's what I was thinking, I was kind of confused as to why you would ever take it over the other meta options and wondered if anyone else had any arguments in favor of it. It has good boss damage, but you can also deal a lot of boss damage by proccing bleed with the bolt pistol while also being able to kill specials in a reasonable amount of time and while being way more ammo efficient. The bolter can nuke shit and you can animation cancel the equip animation with knives. The flamer serves a completely different purpose but everyone knows why it's good. I was mainly wondering if he was being retarded/contrarian or if he knows something that others don't.

>>536837458
you ignoramus. the rats ARE his pussy…

>>536705989
This actually looks kinda cute. Mind telling me more?

>>536771401
damn
cobain was kinda cute

>>536813548
Is it any good? I saw some gameplay and the trailer and it actually does look solid but that’s all I know. I’m expecting an SH situation.

>>536837458
bitches love rats

>>536833862
Really though, why has no one just copied and pasted the combat at this point? Is it that hard to do so? Or have the Tide games really just not ‘caught on’ like that among the wider industry?

What weapons (In shopclick) allow you to attack while sliding?
I know you can queue certain action before sliding and release them after, but the dueling sword can attack at will at any point during the slide. I honestly think that's the most broken part about it.

>>536842231
ogryn pickaxes have a unique slide attack

>engineer just whittles me down all game
>so does the sister
>bounty hunter was polite enough to not shoot me in the head
I don't really know why I bothered reinstalling this mess, I didn't know I couldn't solo the event. I play auric in dt but eat shit all the time in vt and spastic teams are only half my problem. I only really have fun casually goin through vt2 levels when they release them. Trash fucking game, and so is darktide but at least that game is playable.

>>536844247
just take a good thp talent. your post reeks of sublime shittery

wtf are vet players going to do when the plasma gun + DS nerfs hit?

>>536845743
It's likely that we are getting new weapons when they nerd the PG and DS.
Also it's possible that we'll get the veteran rework then as well.

>>536844247
>I play auric in dt but eat shit all the time in vt
what happens to a nigga when they're used to hits dealing zero damage if their shields are full
back in the ratclick days you had to run ironbreaker for that, you know

>>536842231
Demonic image

>>536845743
this is probably not happening before some buffs and maybe tree rework

lasguns, shredder/las pistols, autoguns getting buffs
imagine

>>536847240
Yes please buff my vraks iag

>>536844247
And niggas here have audacity to call Darktide a harder game.

>>536847240
Lasguns really need a buff, it makes 0 sense that the laspistol is the best las weapon

Veteran should have a mini(auto)gun like the artwork of talents tree

>>536848505
Difficulty because of intentional game mechanics ≠ artificial difficulty via shitty underdeveloped features

>>536839871
>and it had the most memorable moments of the -tide games by far
such as?

>>536848505
VT has like 2 ranged enemies and both of them get oneshot by career skills and ranged weapons
Darktide has a bunch of hitscan dogshit enemies that are quaranteed to chip your health/fortitude alongside hordes that sometimes spawn like 12 specials at the same time just because
That being said VT stages themselves are usually more difficult and complex and Darktide has regenerating halo shields

>>536837458
this but unironically

>>536838906
Many goals from current event are endlessly repeatable and give 50 shillings for doing every challenge. You can easily drown in shillings during this event
>>536835425
very fun
>>536816095
Everything about Darktide is conceptually retarded. They should have abandoned it and made proper, non shit sequel long time ago, instead of wasting time on fixing a shit base that is DT1.

Le Suicide Squad Reject premise which completely doesn't fit the genre in which you have to play as 4 elite characters slaughtering tons of mooks. Which ends up in a nonsensical situation where you don't feel like Reject anyway, but at this same time game insists you are just a random goon with a gun still

Instead of giving you cool weapons and classes 40k is known for, they flooded arsenal with generic ak47 and toothbrushes and shit like this. Iconic gun and sword 40k set is still not in game

They tried to include improved Chaos Wastes style mission randomization of generic side-missions instead of dedicated main story ones. But they made it worse actually than in Chaos Wastes in the end. Maps reuse entire segments which they tried to pass off as immersive when it's anything but it. They ultimately ended up with maps that are neither unique and memorable nor huge in quantity

For no reason at all they decided that explicitly ONE hive city on ONE planet will be entire setting of their game. Despite creating entire varied Moebian Domain in background.

Out of tons of potential cool 40k enemies, in a franchise which is explicitly designed around rule of cool since models have to look cool, they chose the single most boring zombie enemy for a genre already oversaturated with zombie enemies. When VT1 success was in huge part explicitly the fact that you don't fight against generic zombies again, but humanoid rats with bizarre WW1 tech.

I think everyone at Fatshark is simply sick of working on a game which is so inherently flawed and was such a hell to even release. It's just tedium

Castigator's stance with blessed armament and a bolter is so much fun to use I don't even care if it's suboptimal or off meta

>>536852837
suboptimal and fun is the best way to play this game imho

>>536850983
>Instead of giving you cool weapons and classes 40k is known for
you mean like the thunder hammer and plasma gun and ripper gun and chain sword and chain axe and eviscerator and force swords and psyker staffs and bolt guns and bolt pistol and power swords and las guns and las pistols and helbores and flamers? Yeah it really sucks we didn't get any of those. What were they thinking?

>>536854726
Yes, explicitly, exactly like all of those. Weapons which they had to add in later, given that you had a single (broken) Power sword and multiple types of normal swords in game. It took years to get to a point where armory aren't just toilet brushes. Just like it took years to fix crafting and loot system, while other features like mission selection are still garbage and require few more years and another multiple complete reworks to get them to work like VT2 had it at a release.
Just scrap this utter garbage of a game already and make a proper sequel instead, Jesus Christ

>>536854726
>thunder hammer
took 2 years to be usable, still subpar to any zealot weapon
>plasma gun
took a year to be usable
>ripper gun
only good gun ogryn had for 1 and 1/2 years, but i miss can opener shenanigans
>bolt guns/pistol
true they are fun
>chain sword
lol
>chain axe
lmaoooo
>eviscerator
bahahahahaha
>force swords
took a year for one mark to be good
>psyker staffs
took a year to be good
>power swords
extremely poor implementation, besides the relic sword (which took 2 years to be added)
>las guns
forgotten
>las pistols
took a year to be good, underutilized
>helbores
forgotten
>flamers
always good
anyways time for another dclaw and brauto run

>>536855416
>Weapons which they had to add in later
>It took years
Out of the iconic weapons he listed only bolt pistols were added later, you fucking doomtranny. And why are you posting a picture of space marine weapons with like a third of them being bolters to boor?
>>536855656
Besides the point, iconic weapons were there from the start, your argument is shit.