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Season 6 - 葬花吟 [Zàng Huā Yín]
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>Upcoming Events

2025.08.28 — 2025.09.25
Chapter 8.5 - Spring Cultivation

>Current Events

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Chapter 6.5 Timekilling Time BokGak

>Current Extractions

2025.08.14 — 2025.08.28
[000] The Lord of Hongyuan Hong Lu

2025.08.14 — 2025.08.28
Target Extraction: [ Heishou Pack ] ID & E.G.O

>FAQs
! This game is directly tied to the setting of Project Moon's previous games, Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, and is set after both. Expect spoilers for those games in this thread.
! The tutorial is important.

>Download links
AppStore: https://apps.apple.com/app/limbus-company/id6444112366
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ProjectMoon.LimbusCompany
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1973530/Limbus_Company/

>Other links
Official twitter: https://twitter.com/limbuscompany_b
Official youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectMoonOfficial
Official site: https://limbuscompany.global

>Required reading
https://mega.nz/folder/xosDkZ5Z#Wt4JpUt5Bb2XG77pxuuXpw

>For all your EGO and Sinner info needs
https://limbus.kusoge.xyz/
https://gll-fun.com/en/

>Useful resources and a general guide
https://rentry.org/lcg_resources
https://rentry.org/lcbguide
https://rentry.org/LCB_optimal_grind_guide

>Countdown
https://lcbcountdown.carrd.co/

WHERE ARE THEY MONZO

Moses marriage mating press nakadashi impregnation

>>536600315
The concept incinerator.

>>536600594
Huh, what were we waiting for again?

Things I slurped today:
>Venti caramel macchiato
>3 cups of water
>1 bowl of soup
>1 bowl of noodles with pork
>1 Thai iced tea
>2 glasses of milk
>1 slice of chocolate cream pie my sister made (it was a bit soupy)
>1 can of root beer
Your response, doomkeks?

Limbnonnies will slurp whatever slop you feed them.
Case in point: 6 more Heishou units and arknig egos!

I slurped lots of juicy hopechad cock today

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533233357413155325

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533233357413155323

>>536600315
>>536600594
>>536600664
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533233357413155323

>Achievements
fuck off thanks

>The cultivation minigame is real
All doomsissies kneel for hopegod cock NOW

Mini-game doubter status?

Hot take: Canto 6 would have been better if they removed dimension jumper Heathcliff and made our Catherine the main antagonist.

>>536601054
>>536601057
>>536601118
>>536601254
>>536601257

They're buffing... Xichun?
No, not Ishmael's ID. Xichun the NPC character

38 more minutes.

>>536601254
AIIIIEEEEE HOPEGOD I KNEEL
*SLUUUUUUURP*

Lol

>>536601287
Scroll down little doomkek, hopedaddy will be patient with you

Nothing about MD? So the cheevos and the level is just capped at 43 rn.

>>536601327
Huh...? Regular checkup??

where's his gloves

>>536601289
>powercreeping Xichunmael even harder
Ishkeks... we're getting mogged even harder.

>>536601416
AI forgot to draw them.

>>536600195 (OP)
Cute

>Middle Don Quixote apparently dealt more bleed than intended on skill 1
>thought on nerfing her but decided against it and changed the text instead
hmm

So you get 20% from any Sinclair ID

>>536601630
You can even just slot in his LCB identity, but you also need Horsesang and Xichunmael to max out the 100% cap.

>20% from Sinclair
>40% from Umasang
>40% from Xichunmael
>Can't shard Umasang for a week
Ok buddy

>>536601375
They couldn't make a spring cultivation pack in time.

>>536599779
What did I say.

>>536601375
Penis inspection day.

I don't want to shard Xichunmael for MDs bros...

Kits doko ?

>>536601610
So the minigame is a permanent addition?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533233357413155321
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533233357413155336

Heh, they forget to type in the t for Sinclair info page

>>536599859
I was joking with on heads hit, what the fuck?

>>536601416
He probably just decided to remove them?

>>536601892
>>536602030

>>536601892
>>536602030
>>536602191
This is.... awkward

>>536601852
>only one old unit gives 40%
>pls roll new unit for the full bonus
KJH should fucking kill himself

>>536602030
>multiply rupture damage
So he will be overpowered for sure.

Sinclair looks like a dud
Even more so than Xichunmael

>>536600195 (OP)
>>536601892
>>536602030
>>536602191
Combined for your convenience

>rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down rounded down
ENOUGH
ROUND UP FOR ONCE IN YOUR FUCKING LIFE

>2x multiplying Rupture damage
LOL

>unfocused volley
Oh FUCK no

>No poise on either of them
DEAD ON ARRIVAL
FUCK
>Self burn (But not as bad)
Goodbye ABS Faust
>Umasang is required to give Xichunmael poise
>Concussion increases rupture damage

Holy mid

>Tremorture
Bruh he is going to be so awkward in MD, the rest of Heishou team are Poiseture

>>536602329
How so? He seems pretty cool

>>536602191
>light self on fire with burn and power up
Cool as fuck

>>536602367
That will be 1.1 or 1.2, still damn good
.

>>536602367
>>536602320
>implying there won't be a cap

>>536601892
>>536602030
>>536602191
>no deathrite
Kek yeah they definitely got rid of all the Deathrites after Maost.

>>536602191
>Cannot be staggered or fall below 1hp due to burn damage
Huh? Is he expected to lose a clash on his S3 or some shit?
These contamination passives are not that good. Sinclair doesn't even fucking inflict a deathrite.

>>536602191
>Oh let the smell of burning blood fuel my rampage
Holy chunni

Wait a fucking minute, that Heishou Bolus contamination makes time bomb reverb even stronger.

>>536602371
>>No poise on either of them
Yi Sang has it through passives

Lmao he straight up buffs her

>>536602475
You suppose to loose a clash with either counter or S3 to gain self burn. Or just let enemy inflict burn on you. This works to. LOL.

>>536602329
No gloom skill immediately makes him a dud in Burn team

>>536602531
He doesn't retard, he makes shitmael gain more poise potency, not himself.

>>536602389
Only 3 of the Heishous have Poise and only two of them (Gregor & Rodion) count towards the Poise Fusion gifts. Faust's S3-2 doesn't count meaning she doesn't help the team out there for Poise gifts.

>>536602367
Fuck that, you guys see that shit? MULTIPLY STAGGER THRESHOLD
KJH finally give Tremor what it need

>>536602393
Too much
>on HEADS hit
And the passive for Hong Kong seems meh

>>536602371
>Concussion
>Bad
One of the most broken shits released till now

>>536602531
I was kind of hoping for poise on their own S3s for LP shenanigans, but all he does is give poise to Xichunmael (who can't gain it for shit)

>>536602602
I also take Lord Lu and Xichunmael into equation

Rosespannerbros are we back?

>>536602475
Seems like the self burn gimmick doesn't really matter, he has a shit ton of coins, buffs his clash power, and has good rupture count potential

So are the adepts just meant to fill a tank archetype?

>>536602717
>lowest speed
Ha-ha...

>>536602367
Youre confusing the stack for the multiplier, anon...
The multiplier is an X we dont know yet.

So are the snakes booted out

So the horse are H Corp equivalent of R Corp Rhino? Whose main job is destroy and disruption

>>536602707
4/5 though so you need a fifth (currently CinqSault) to round out the team if you want the Poise Gifts to activate

>>536602814
anon why...
>>536602357

>>536602367
I wonder how retarded do you have to be look at this and think that it was going to be 2x more rupture damage.

>>536602785
I'm not putting sinclair on my team. He looks even more count negative than Ishmael.

>>536602653
You need a mixture of both tremor IDs and rupture IDs to reach 99 rupture and raise the stagger bar with burst in order to see any meaningful damage. Which, at that point, just use a fully dedicated tremor or rupture team instead of half-assing it and getting some result after several turns. Plus, it'll very likely have a cap

Umasang is the first ID that can remove debuffs without using an EGO

>>536602785
If you're just focused on Rupture then yeah. Replace them.

>>536603025
What's the EGO to do it?
Regret? Anything else?

>>536603025
Dieci Rodion.

>>536602896
>You need a mixture of both tremor IDs and rupture IDs to reach 99 rupture and raise the stagger bar with burst in order to see any meaningful damage
What? You don't need any tremor ID to use concussion in a rupture team, same for using it in a tremor team

>>536602030
Will he save xichunmael?

>>536603006
>Hong Lu on rampage hellbent on destorying his home, killing his family, and waging a war on all wings
No wrath
>Yi Sang, lost his princess, forced to work for Hong Lu, and no more purpose
No wrath, or even gloom

>>536602470
Concussion has a max stack of 2 and rupture a max potency of 99, so your cap is 297 extra damage per coin.

>>536603006
That's all you need for a use of his base EGO. Not enough though, I want to be spamming that 12 potency.

>>536603138
Moron

>>536603006
Literally same sin affinity as Devyat Rodya or Dead Rabbit Meur. Feels like an inside joke at this point.

>>536603138
Dumb fuck

>>536602814
thank you bwo

So I am still forced to run Ishmael?

THAT WILL BE 300 LUNASHY MOZNO

>>536603309
No, she's still worse than any of the Heisho's.

I wonder what's the reason they didn't make new deathrites......... definitely not the chinks fault

>>536602329
No way he's worse than Xishmale.

Okay so just put sinclair on the bench so that you can use his support passive for more potency on honglu/faust like all sinclair rupture ids should be.

>>536603346
You can just use talisclair passive which is far more consistent and doesnt need you to ut3 some random unit.

>>536603309
You need her on the loadout if you want to max out your bonus.

They both feel very awkward to use. They're clearly meant to be slotted in rupture, since they have gluttony defenses. But they're heavily count negative, on top of the snakes and hong lu being negative. Maost and dimension shredder aren't enough to maintain all that negative count

>>536603309
>rupture
No.
>Poise + Rupture
Yes. Same deal for the snakes. I was hoping Yi Sang would be a poise for fusion gifts, but no dice.

>>536603386
>doesnt need you to ut3 some random unit.
NEWBAB SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH

>Release two units
>One of them gains a debuff
>Give the one who doesn't gain a debuff the ability to remove debuffs on himself
Yep thanks great I love that fucking amazing work there sure do love the thought process behind that one wow sure do love that I can't take away sinclair's burn away from him but I can take away burn from umasang who already has aggro and shield so burn wouldn't even matter for him
FUCK
>But you want him to take damage from the self-burn, he gains damage buffs from taking damage; he can't be staggered or die from burn anyway
BY LOSING CLASHES. WHICH MEANS HE WILL BE TAKING DAMAGE ANYWAY. OOPS ALL STAGGERED

>no deathrites even on heishos now
Now we can safely say that they did also indeed remove Deathrites from Hong Lus kit.

>Another mediocre Sinclair ID
Im not surprised, at least he seems to be better than philipclair and thumbclair in a burn team

>>536602896
No, you just need the rest of the rupture team and suddenly Faust is doing over a thousand damage on her s3-2 when you have concussion up and a good rupture stack.

>>536603417
>they're heavily count negative
How the fuck do you know

I don't understand what makes something negative count desu, especially when you lack the numbers to reference
>>536603503
The ghost of Sinclairdev has long been exorcised

Yisang horse dick...

>>536603432
Huh? You cant use a support passive without an UT3, anon.

>>536603417
Yi Sang's DS will still let him be count neutral+ on all skills. He will be a very good unit since he also gives himself lots of haste to guarantee that EGO passive.

>>536603208
>>536603232
>doomsissies projecting

>>536603543
By not being blind and remembering Maost has been released

So this is why he can debuff himself.

>>536603693
He looks pretty good, you're just extremely retarded I'm afraid.

>>536603309
No, she's getting kicked off the team.

>>536603645
DS has no interaction with haste

>>536603787
She was on the team?

>>536603693
Youre reading the kit wrong, anon. It multiplies it by X, which is a value we dont know about yet. Likely in the 1.3-1.5x range.

>>536603768
So... he's like a phoenix
Without the "revive" of course
You WANT to burn him down

>>536603503
phillipclair is better
Dont get ahead of yourself

>>536603826
Retard

>>536603768
>keep taking burn damage
>just to heal 5 SP

Don't care still using cockclair for kino cockfighting

Why couldn't the tremor thing be a Deathrite?

>>536603826
Anon... It doesn't mean you need specifically look for an enemy with lower speed amongst all enemies....

So, you play Limbus Company huh? Name one Limbus Company character.

>>536603386
Consider that Cockclair will actually be usuable on field.

>>536603970
You know exactly why

>>536603970
Because they're still seething that Maost can apply mark of decay every single turn and are removing deathrites from every single unit going forward(yes, even lord hong was a victim).

>>536603831
>>536603787
You're not gonna kick her off.
especially when she's gonna be spamming skill 3s

>>536604005
Limbus, the guy who owns the company

>bro she's gonna be insane on a dieci team
>bro she's gonna be insane with Kong Lu
>bro she's gonna be insane with Uma sang
When the fuck will it end?

>>536603616
If you have so little thread you don't uptie 3 every ID you're a newbab or some gachafag casual

>only 3 counts
That Dimension Shredder tax is hitting hard, eh?

I wish i was better at saving lunacy. I want to save them for the walpurgis banner, but i also want to keep getting new IDs.

>>536604104
>enhanced S3 has a single instance of count
Holy fuck

>Need to shard Ishmael for Umasang maxium damage potential
Kill me

>>536604061
Her S3 is worthless even with his buffs.

>>536604061
She'll be an active detriment since she'll be filling in a slot that could have gone to a Heishou.

>>536604104
>All that DS tax and you'll never retreat him or use him to reinforce because it makes him lose EGO passives.

>>536604065
Hopefully never

>>536604065
>free skill 3 if she comes into the fight
>free skill 3 whenever uma sang uses his skill 3
>has permanent 2 power up now
>also her poise potency has been buffed
at this point they could give her a passive that makes her a perma 2 skill slot unit and you'd still find a way to DOOMpost about it

>>536604169
>wait for a week
>shard ID
It's not that hard. But I did blow up 170 rolls on Thumb banner.

>>536603826
Retard.

Oh my god they really just dropped deathrites entirely. Isn't next canto taking place in the district where all the glyphs and deathrites come from as well? Lmao.

>>536604065
When director finally owns up and announces proper kit rework instead of trying to apply bandages.

>>536604191
>She'll be an active detriment since she'll be filling in a slot that could have gone to a Heishou.
what slot?
there is no heisou ishmael
you can run her in the team to no problem.
if you're talking about the initial 7 units.
heisou are focus around switching and retreating.
so you aren't losing anything by using ishmael

>>536604285
In canto 9 it was never gonna be called Deathrites anyways, it would be a new thing since Q corp very likely have way better talismans themselves than the ones they're handing out to other corps.
But yes, these Heisho's not having a is because of you know who.

Best sinner?

>>536604285
They're just gonna make up new totally not deathrite keyword that doesn't work with maost.

>neutral count
>+2 count
>+3 count/+2 count next turn
Sorry Yi Sang, but you're not clocking out from being a janny any time soon

>>536604285
Because those 2 branch of Heishou don't use voodoo to fight, so no deathrite, pretty simple

>>536604225
>kills your rupture stack even faster
>this is somehow supposed to be a good thing
Ishcucks are some next level of retarded.

>>536604316
Literally what's preventing him from doing so? It's not like there's a gacha law forbidding him from doing this. I'd bet retroactive buffing wouldn't even piss off the chinks.

Why couldn't concussion be a Deathrite thing
Even if it could only be applied by and detonated by Wei Sang, they should have made it a deathrite

>>536604104
At worst he's +1/+1/+0/+0 with DS, he'll most likely always be faster

>>536602030
Did they fucking learn nothing? Xichun Ishmael doesn't need poise potency or attack power up
WHAT SHE NEEDS IS POISE COUNT AND OFFENSE LEVEL UP
WHAT IN THE FUCK

>>536604383
not having it*

>>536604342
Heishou are only wanting to retreat when they are low hp or struggle to gain sanity. Those two situations will never happen because they are apart of the best team in the game and already have Faust, Rodya, and Meursault with the best healing EGOs in the game and fuel them pretty well.

>>536604459
Holy shit it really is all up to Maost to maintain the count

>>536604181
>Her S3 is worthless even with his buffs.
>unbreakable
>10 base + 25 coin power single coin skill
>has 3 atk weight
>has 2 easy conditions for her to use it as an assist attack for free
>also a damage multiplier of up to 205%
and yet you fags say that tingtang honglu's skill 3 which is a vanilla single coin that roll 30 with no special effects or damage mods is one of the BEST skills in the game
always figured you guys were morons

>>536604459
S2 is -1

>>536604438
I don't know. I can imagine fear of people whining to buff other units, but like Epic7 is now on constant streak of releasing switchable kit buffs and people like it.

>The contamination passives of Pre Hong Lu heishous are on Hong Lu’s contamination status effect while post Hong Lu heishous have it on a passive
Holy scuffed

>>536604342
You are better off not having her in your line up at all even if you are using Hong Lu's retreat gimmick (which still deletes your buffs btw).

>>536604549
Retard

>>536604517
They don't have Meursalt.

>>536604565
>even if you are using Hong Lu's retreat gimmick (which still deletes your buffs btw)
they've already started to fix it
the new sinclair gets his own version of strider back whenever he comes into the field again

>>536604613
I missed with "DS part". You spiteful CUNT.

>>536604065
MEET POTENTIALWOMAN

>>536604658
Oh right. I'm still using Cinq Meursault but I probably wont anymore.

>>536604459
>Dimension Shredder is a mandatory shard for Yi Sang to not be a brick on rupture now
Grim.

>>536604552
They just wanted to tell you with the kits, they are gonna update the contamination effect

>>536604438
Because it opens up a whole can of worms about OTHER units they've refused to buff despite them desperately needing it and I guess they don't want to deal with that.

I take back what I said
I don't want a Heishou ID for Heathcliff, this expectation of swapping and retreating is too much work and I'm too retarded for this

>>536604540
>needs 5 negative effects and 3 launcher for 3 atk weight
>assist attack will eat your count
>needs guarenteed 20 poise on self + 99 rupture on all targets for her modifiers
>struggles heavily with poise and will keep struggling
Truly, the potential woman

>>536604438
They have no monetary incentive to buff.
they're better off just releasing a better version of the ID later
>cinq don vs cinq east don
did you babs Really forger that this game is a gacha?
a gacha that wants your money?

>>536604459
If you need to use an ego to maintain count ebony stem is right there, which isn't capped to 3 per turn (even if it was it would still apply more count than DS because of Maotis coins) and comes with binds.

>>536604397
Me
>But who are you?
Your favorite sinner

They could give Xichunmael +3 rupture count on every coin and people would still call her bad because redditors made memes about her
Just give up
>>536604891
How about I play both, what are you gonna do then?

Concussion might as well be a deathrite. Just pretend it's titled
>Deathrite [Concussion]
It's better than Venom anyway.

>>536604869
They have a responsibility of specifically maintaining the goodwill that's remaining after trapping and betraying us in the gacha warp train for 10 seconds (10 millennia)

>>536604804
>Bwo mutilate is still the best skill in the ENTIRE game
>it's never going to be powercrept
>it's why tingtang honglu is a goddamn BEAST

Please tell me Xichunmael will be usable now...

>>536604950
You don't need that much count, you don't even need to use one of them even but elementary school tier math is hard for some people.

Is Rupture the new Charge? Did KJH realize that he can make any status good by just slapping Rupture on it?

>>536604985
>S1 ID
This is absolute POWER of Shitmael fags btw.

Lore reason why concussion multiply rupture damage?

FUCKKKKKKKK HE GAINS LIKE 5 BURN IF HE EVER LOSES A CLASH HES FUCKING WORTHLESS

Sinner of the last digit (You) get when you reply to me will become your girlfriend/boyfriend.

>Multiply
>Rupture Damage

>>536605046
Stuff hurts more if your head hurts

>>536604950
>They could give Xichunmael +3 rupture count on every coin and people would still call her bad because redditors made memes about her
yep
she's unironically stronger and more consistent than 80% of IDs released before canto 8 (including the likes of Wdon and Nclair)
but the game's powercreep has gotten so far that an ID like her is seen as "potential tier" with people not being self aware on how stupid they're being

Please if we can get a unit that can just remove debuffs whenever he wants give us a unit that can just have EGO passives without using the EGO

>>536604985
>Bring me a season 1 ID to compete against or I'm COOKED

>Faust has small milkers in the game
>Every fan art gives her huge milkers

Why would I put Sang or Clair into my pre-existing Hong+Heishou team? Even Rodya and Gregor look to be better than them and 2-slotting Hong or Faust is way better too

>>536605062
Rolling.

>>536605046
Getting a concussion is like getting your brain ruptured

>>536604985
>The virgin modern skill: Uhhhhh I NEED 6 of these status and 5 of those status to inflict more status that deal damage for me
>The CHAD Multilate: He used the skill again? +100% damage for it, 50% more if the target is bleeding

>>536604985
I didn't even bring up TTlu you Ishtroon schizo. I said Xichunmael is shit

Yeah, im thinking benchclair

>>536605147
MAKE THIS THE NORM GAME WIDE
EGO PASSIVES ONLY NEED TO BE SLOTTED/ONLY NEED EGO RESOURCES ACQUIRED LIKE REGULAR PASSIVES
PLEASE KJH IT WOULD BE SO FUN

>>536605154
Blindbro...

>>536605132
most limbis fags i see optimized the fun out of the game going so far to call regret paus shit since mao paus can just go first and use cum ego

>>536605045
tingtang is still called one of the best IDs in the game simply for his skill 3.
so why is xichun ish called potential man tier despite having a better skill 3 that she can spam almost every other turn??

>>536605159
There is merit to having Yi Sang because of concussion
Regardless of how low the multiplier is

... I have nothing to say for Sinclair

>>536605276
Don't reply to obvious ragebait

>the year is 2030
>maos are still the only rupture positive units on their own and to this day are a staple of the status when everyone else was phased out

>>536605264
He will provide way more potency on field. Just boot Gregor.

>>536605154
Bro your LCB Checkup art?

>>536605294
TingTang is known for his skill 2 you newfag. His skill 3 is good for clashing and nothing else

>>536605270
It's more that most fights take like 5 turns so I don't even get to USE those passives that frequently. What's the point? Railway? Really?

>>536605330
Do you think newfags are seething because they can't shard Outis and Ryoshu?

>>536605374
And brick my count with a 3-3-4 coin spread with barely enough count application? Nah

>>536605294
>that she can spam almost every other turn
Take your pills man, you're hallucinating things

>>536605446
>barely enough count application
We don't have the numbers yet unc :skull:

>>536605217
>>536605149
ahh the classic double face syndrome.
>glaze season 1 skills and kits saying stuff like "they're immune to powercreep"
>show them a skill from a new ID that's better
>"wow a better skill than a season 1 ID? how pathetic"

>>536605397
That's my point, some EGO passives are really cool, but imagine taking at minimum 5 turns (+extra to recover SP) to activate all of them.

cultivating my xichun to evolve into a pisschun!

>>536604104
Further proof that the retreat mechanic is designed like SHIT
He's very clearly balanced around DS but you LOSE its passive if you retreat and come back
That's so fucking retarded

>>536605330
I JUST noticed that they have this tiny support hat thing below their hat and now i find them really silly

>>536605276
>>536605386
They're like C cups at best

>>536604985
>literal launch 000 comparison
ahahaha ohnonono

>>536605475
>gets a skill 3 for free when she ENTERs
>gets another skill 3 for free whenever yisang uses his skill 3 (even if it's a combo with hong lu's skill 3)
nah you're just blinded with hate against ishmael for some reason

>>536605489
>xe has to make up arguments in his head to win against because xe can't do so in reality
Ishtroons reach a new low.

>>536604539
>>536605330
>bunnies personally castrate talisman to free future rupture units from 15/3
>accidentally make rupture units dependent on maost forevermore
???
>>536605479
You don't need to wait for numbers on count application to judge because more often than not it's all +1 nowadays

I haven't been following the conversation but I'm always down to throw stones at Ishmaelfags

>>536605616
Now post LCB Faust's tits.

>>536605573
Kimsault has it too

>>536605281
Regret Faust is shit in 2025. No coin power buffs, awkward self tremor gain, weird caps on said self tremor usage. If it wasn't for Everlasting and plugging into tremor crew for keywords she'd be completely replaceable. Probably the most skippable Walpurg ID at this point.

>>536604985
The reason Mutilate is good is because of clashing, not the damage. TingTang S2 is his best skill (not counting the fact he has an evade that will not force him to retreat)

>no deathrite
I'm getting really tired of IDs paying the Maost tax
It's honestly ruining the season for me

>>536605424
I'm sure everyone who failed to get them on the banner is very upset.

>>536605616
That's not a C cup, what the fuck are you on about?

Why is Faust the only one allowed to have shit like Fluid Sac and Maost, huh, director?

>>536605784
Blame KJH for being a cuck to the Chinese

Ishmael is now canonically tastiest sinner

>>536605770
>>536605392
>brooo the skill 2 brooo
i don't see all the hype behind it...
he has 3 coins most of the time while xichunmael has 4 by default.
and also it's piss easy to fulfill her conditions to get her to 5 coin power.
he also doesn't inflict any status or debuff with his skill 2.
while xichunmael gets poise and offense level up while also dealing rupture and defense down with her skill 2

Do I need to shard Ebony Stem?

>no deathrite
Defend this.

>>536605294
>tingtang is still called one of the best IDs in the game simply for his skill 3.
Are people that claim this in the room with us right now?

>>536606059
I can't, but it's not their fault
This Ahab-kinning dog needs to be put down

>>536606059
I coped about Hong Lu not having it because he isn't really Qiu and is just doing his own thing.
But this... yeah it's just the maost tax.

>owns your status
>owns your team
>owns your season
>owns your gimmicks
Whose canto season was this again?

>>536606059
Mao adept Faust too strong sumida...

>>536606037
Also do keep in mind that she's getting a perma +2 power up when she's on the field with uma sang.
So she has a higher Base power and max roll than shank

>2x damage multiplier for rupture
This is what Talisman Sinclair died for

>>536602329
Bad burn application on skill 2
Skill 3 hits 1 target per coin
Self burn conditionals are odd
Hong lu passive is super neat but wont see use because sinclair is not better than dawnclair

Complete miss of an ID shoulve gone to any other sinner
Sinclair could use a bleed hybrid if they wanted to go this route

>>536606059
I can't and don't want to.

>>536606116
yes
you've got
>>536605770
>>536605621
>>536605217

>>536605765
i still like her anims and not like the game is hard enough lacking all that means much

>Bloodflame
>No bleed in sight

Does Mao Faust do something with amounts of deathrites? I don't have her and forget her kit. It would explain things a bit

>>536606262
Only one of them claims it's good, but it's true he is in the room with us right now, even if he's being ironic.

>>536606059
No

So Sinclair can't gain his buff without losing clashes? What's this dogshit design?

>>536606338
Read mark of decay.

>>536606150
Predictions on who gets the next Canto's broken status unit? It's gonna be burn, right? We haven't gotten a burn season yet.

>>536606338
deathrites basically fuel her unique defense buff where she consumes 10 to cast S3-2 on unopposed enemy attacks instead of her normal defense guard

>>536605631
>when she enters
She enters without any poise potency or count, literally halving any potential of the attack by more than half.

She still has the same issues regardless of whatever Yi Sang is in the field or not: she still doesn't get proper offense level (that she desperately want, more than attack power up) and she still doesn't have a stable potency count income

>>536606338
She gains her tianju blade from deathrites being procced and inflicts a debuff that increases damage dealt by them.

>She is good you guys just dont know how to use her
>Ohhhh just you wait for Lord Hong to come out she will be amazing
>Weisang will make her top tier for sure this time
>Actually she is better than season 1 IDs so is she really that bad?
Xichunmael...
Why do you keep going down...

>we went from atk weight+ to unfocused volley
What's his end game?

>Cockclair is actually burn
lmak

>>536606376
Just use him against enemies that inflict burn bro, or Ryoshu's highlight ID that will burn allies

>>536606462
>She enters without any poise potency or count, literally halving any potential of the attack by more than half.
it's just a bonus for playing with her retreat mechanic
regardless you can still ignore that and benefit from free skill 3s using uma sang.
he just gives her a free skill 3 without purging any of her poise and buffs.
with the only condition being that he uses his skill 3 first

>>536606376
He can get it with the counter skill. Still weird design, expect a self-burn EGO in the future.

>>536606507
To make you spam EGOs.

>>536606576
It's slightly weird it isn't bleed because he does actually have a self-bleed EGO, kind of.

>>536606506
Meanwhile
>Used in RR world record

>>536606506
She's better than most IDs by virtue of her action economy especially with uma sang.
though i don't expect someone like (you) to ever have enough brain capacity to realize something is good without it being maost tier broken

>>536606376
Nvm I'm retarded, he gains it on use of his skill 3 and counter like everyone else.

>>536606507
They learned we could manipulate attack weight so they took that from us too
Or maybe not I'm not sure if you can manipulate unfocused volley

>>536606646
>Knight Rodya isnt used and neither is Magical Don
I knew they were both trash tier desudesudesu
I'm glad I didn't roll for them

>>536606646
>>536606815
ELJEFECLAIRGODS WW@

>>536606815
Both are the strongest units in their archetypes thoughbeit.

Ishmael enters -> uses launch -> hong lu makes her use S3 -> Yi sang uses his S3+ -> Ishmael uses her S3
My action economy is in shambles

>>536606875
Are they used in the railway world record in any form other than being fell bullet fodder? There is only one answer to this question.

>>536606854
>still his only sinking ID

How would the Sinner fare against Super Garnet (The best Identity user to ever exist)?

Sinner of the last digit owes me sex.

Anons... Something is different about my new Adept id...

>>536607059
Yeah, can't spam S3s every turn.

Cockclair status?

>>536606815
>>536606936
>Knight Rodya isnt used
She did get used though
https://youtu.be/djbJ1E8reLs

Can't wait for the amount of bullshit they're gonna give burn so it can compete with current rupture next season

>>536607059
Reap what you sow
>>536607143
In the end it doesn't even matter.

>>536607169
ryoshu's BP ego will just be glimpse of flame

>>536607143
>3/4/4 coins
Probably his best burn unit now, rupture will remain to be seen depending on how count negative he is. But raw damage alone he should be pretty strong.

>>536607143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_hypnotism

>>536606568
>it's just a bonus for playing with her retreat mechanic
It's not a "small" bonus when it amounts to up to 135% more damage dealt, not to mention the crit stuff (+count that she used, the poise count that she wants back)

Even assuming she's the only one who get cycled by Hong Lu, you'd still be better off cycling other Ids for that.

In fact, the only way this can be abused is that you need all this shitty setup:
1. Ensure Yi Sang has the least amount of HP at all times
2. Devyat Sinclair or Rodion
3. Make Yi Sang retreat (while keeping Ishmael on the field at all times)
4. Make Devyat retreat to bring back Yi Sang
5. Get free S3 for Yi Sang subsequently Xichun Ishmael
6. Repeat until you can't do that anymore

But it's still a giant setup and you'll probably need more Linebreaker than you can actually afford to use his 3-2

So really, any way you look at it, you're better off not using anything and just use some other Heishou anyway than Ishmael

>>536602191
that's a lot of head conditionals, stupid headless chicken

>>536607169
The heishou sludge and 2 worthless sinclair IDs will all be worth it when we get "multiply burn damage on target" as a baseline to all season 7 IDs

>>536607045
Pre LCB Gregor pastes him by accident.

>>536607169
also prepare for like every named character ID in canto 9 to have their own flavor of dark flame that you can stack with each other

>>536607149
That is true. She was used to die as bad IDs tend to be used for thanks for posting the proof of how bad she is

>>536604985
>LEND ME SOME POISE WEISANG, THIS IS BASE TING TANG WE'RE UP AGAINTS

>>536607224
>best burn
Count his burn keywords and tell me hes worth a damn

>>536607143
Looks more fun to use than Horsesang

>>536607243
read uma sang's kit again
he can gain any where from 1 to 3 linebreakers with each of his skill 3
most of the time you can probably reach the max stack of 5 before using your skill 3.
no need to doompost so hard

>>536607385
Read his passive. He inflicts absurd amounts of burn.

>>536607385
I mean it will depend on how much bloodflame boosts his potency application.

>>536607169
Burn is already decent enough for general use, but only if you have shootis. They just need to release a second shootis just not limited.

>>536607447
>linebreakers with each of his skill 3
with each of his skill*

>>536607143
probably a better burn id than dawnclair by virtue of not having a "weak" mode but no gloom hurts

Said it before I'll say it again:
Should have nerfed Maost
Should have put a cooldown such that Assist Defence can only proc once every 3 turns
Should have made it so only Deathstrider HASTE proc'ing gave her Tianjiu Stars

Do we want Doncock now?

>>536607292
They won't make every season 7 burn ID steal MB Outis's gimmick anon.

>>536607851
at the end of the day ALL the fault lies with director

>>536607854
Cock Adept Don soon

>>536607854
Never wanted it, never will

>>536607854
What's the point in getting Heisho's now when they're all clearly neutered(even if still decent) because they're still mad about 1 unit. Maos won.

>>536607854
No, we want Dragon Don.

>>536607516
4 4 8 and thats IF you have max wrath res and are hitting rupture on every hit
Dawnclair applies 12 in his skill 2 alone

>>536607854
Nay, I want Donmonke

>>536607851
Nah, Dogrector should have just let rupture be incredibly overpowered instead of kneecapping everything to revolve around a unit that will be powercrept next season.

>>536607886
Steal? No anon it will multiply darkflame as well

>>536607447
He's still going to be limited to having the proper amount of Linebreaker stack, which if it is 5, means that the whole argument of "ishmael can do her skill 3 every other turn" is purely fucking flawed and I will not stand for disinformation if you're going to talk theorycrafting

>>536608021
>nigger says this when we don't have his numbers

>>536606507
It's worse against multiple targets but better against a single one

>>536607851
>Should have made it so only Deathstrider HASTE proc'ing gave her Tianjiu Stars
.... Deathrite Venom gives her stars too?

>>536607975
I want my zoo power rangers

>>536608112
That will be reserved for Ryoshu's highlight ID.

>>536608254
yeah, as long as a deathrite is popped she gets stars

>>536608254
It does, but nobody got time to manage poise for it to proc.

>>536608231
It's worse against both.

>>536607143
He's probably the best potency applier for Burn, he just can't add burn count for shit
He can also make use of 9:2 for reducing the target's (and himself) sp, though he wants sanity the most because everything he does is tied to heads so bad idea to lose sp

>>536607886
She's almost 2 years old
having her gimmick stolen won't hurt

>>536608254
ANYONE proc'ing ANY Deathrite gives her stars
Because she's a fucking pinky

That new Sinclair feels like a 00
Also he is like ULTRA count negative for rupture, sad

>>536608456
>fourth review bomb has hit the steam store director

>>536608163
>He's still going to be limited to having the proper amount of Linebreaker stack, which if it is 5, means that the whole argument of "ishmael can do her skill 3 every other turn" is purely fucking flawed and I will not stand for disinformation if you're going to talk theorycrafting
it's amazing how retards like you are willing to go on a hour long doomposting session when reading the kit just proves you wrong
you're the living imbodiment of "limbabs cant read"

>>536608407
Look at what has attack weight and what has unfocused volley bwo

>>536607169
>[On Hit] Inflict Wrath Affinity damage equal to Burn Potency on the target (max 35, we were feeling generous) Reduces Target's Burn Count by 1

>>536607851
>Should have nerfed Maost
They were going to but the chinks complained about "muh integrity" instead of what actually matters by doing what do best: reviewbombing
Director promising never to nerf identities during Ringsang's time was pretty stupid too in its own right, but that situation was difficult because just the week before they buffed a Walpurgis ID 3 separate times
In conclusion it's all Sinclair's fault

>gives her poise potency support when her poise economy problems was always that she had trouble maintaining her own count at high potency
>gives her attack up when she would have wanted offense level up in literally every other situation
I honestly don't know if its intentional at this point or they just don't understand her actual issues with her kit.

>>536606019
>Donqui
not canon

>>536608689
You're acting like the director was a wee little child that was being bullied online.
he's a grown ass man that could've just ignored all the chink seethe.
but he instead has a spine built with the cheapest plastic and crumbled and cancelled the nerf

Arknights Collab will probably drop by October 2 KST (Spring Cultivation event end).
Rest of Cheevo updates will be padding the dead weeks. 5-10 more achievement updates till it's complete.

>>536608780
>was a wee little child that was being bullied online.
Clearly he still is

>>536608780
And that's a good thing.

>>536608780
I wasn't intending to direct the blame away from Director. Sorry if my wording came across that way

>>536608415
eh it's not like count is THAT big of a problem ids like firefist liu ish rodya and sang already provide a bunch of it

>>536608689
I for one am glad that kimchi coon listens to chinkoids and not subhuman global market that made worshipping corporations your sole defining personality trait.

>>536608920
He should listen to me instead.

>>536608594
And you can't comprehend what I said for shit
If you need more linebreakers to activate 3-2 than what the passive provides when it first triggers on entrance (or when he does his s3 at all) then you're not going to get Ishmael to get that unopposed s3 attack
And once again, this mean the whole argument of "you get free s3 for ishmael every other count" to still be false

>no Gloom on Cocklair
Noooo I don't want to use Cucklair anymore, he's so fucking awful to use.

>>536608984
>he should listen to subhumans asking for nerfs
No.

cocklair is probably best run as a burn id than a rupture id he kinda shreds count otherwise and burn having access to gluttony is fine (although they lose gloom)

>>536609252
My white hero, Ishmael, can give you all the gloom you need.

>536609252
Bait

Ish status?

>>536609317
>>536609201

>>536609461
You talking about base Ish?

>>536609424 (me)
Forgot to mention I'm from Isreal.

i genuinely forgot gregor's counter is gloom so i guess you don't fully lose access to gloom

>>536609504
>Isreal

>>536607143
I don't use *clair
I don't read *clair kits
I don't shard *clair

Why is she STILL useless?
She's getting boosted by two other IDs and she's still dogshit garbage.
I wasted my exp tickets on this stupid fucking bitch who does literally nothing
She's even useless in her lore and dies to Hong lu
Fuck this bitch wish I could rape her

can't wait for sinclair to consistently fumble his 2s 3rd coin

>>people thought we'd be using Cockclair in fucking burn
lol
lmao

>>536609803
>he thinks we aren't

You only notice tails flips on 45 and heads flips on -45 because you're aware that they happen uncommonly.

>>536609041
3 easy to fullfill condition
you can easily get 3 linebreakers in every turn before you use your skill 3

>>536609852
for Mirror Dungeon? Yeah sure
In anything else?
lol
lmao

>>536609803
you run dawnclair more because you have to due to limited options than because he's good, as a kit overall cocklair is better

>>536609971
RR is dead because it wasn't easy enough so MD is now all we have..

Rupture's still wrath starved btw. Cockclair's S2 is the only wrath skill it has now, and that's if by some miracle he fits better in rupture than burn.

In other news, if Yi Sang's good enough in tremor Lord Hong may take Yuro Hong spot in tremor, which is really really funny

Xishmael fags, I dearly implore you to stop. It's not healthy, so just accept that it's so over for her.

>>536610176
Concerning...

>>536609884
You can only get two without using his enhanced S3.

>>536610083
>if by some miracle he fits better in rupture than burn.
What
At the moment he definitely feels like he slots in rupture
... But might not be good enough for the heishou squad

>two ids powercrept within their own season release
How bad is it gonna get

>>536610176
I see it. CLAAAWWWS

>>536608349
subhuman and Blighter

just realized they really gave yi sang a sloth 1s just so he can actually use DS since nobody in the rupture team has sloth

>>536610273
His potency application sounds okay but he's really count negative. And I don't mean "oh boohoo anon doesn't play the game and doesn't know the maos can carry count". He is, most likely, -2 on every single skill he has, and -1 on his counter (and I guess -1 on his S2 without the reuse). The snakes are already iffy in count, so is Hong, and so is Yi Sang, but Sinclair has no way to increase his count application, and he's the most negative out of everyone

>>536610176
You think she can feel THAT pressed against her back?...

Just out of curiosity, when has the preview ever been moderately different from the release? I might recall something about Director running Devyclair in a stream before his release, but I don't remember what it was exactly.

>>536610707
nvm i'm retarded maost 1s is sloth

>>536610707
>nobody in the rupture team has sloth
Anon I know they are S1s but come on now, there are 2 different units in the heishou team.
The thing the team's lacking is wrath

>>536609884
oh so now your argument changed from "every other turn" to "before you use your s3"? Way to fucking move the entire thing

Also you can only get 2 Linebreaker at most from the passive.
- When he wins a clash (which if he do an unopposed attack is hard to do, the target needs a power counter/guard to ensure a clash triggers)
- If Yi Sang is faster than the target before attacking

You won't get the double tremor burst activation unless you use 3-2.

So you're essentially looking at a minimum of: 3 turns + however how many turns he needs to cycle his natural s3 skill. And THEN you get a free Ishmael S3. All this to get some extra S3s on Ishmael while still not covering her core issues

>>536610731
I'll take your word for it, but I still think he's Rupture because he got a WAW

at least yi sang can cover his count infliction via DS and being pure neutral count at worst is kinda good enough, although having to rely on using an ego does suck

>>536610731
Yi Sang will be fine with dimension shredder

we have to see bluenigger in ryoshu canto

>>536611029
Yet you don't want to use his WAW with him because it eats his SP and he wants to roll heads on almost everything for conditionals

>>536611210
His ID passive will have to work overtime I suppose

>>536611210
Its passive is SP generation based on negative effects on self, though.

>>536611210
and funnily enough sp is less of a problem in burn because liu sang exists

>>536610741
Feel? Anon, look at Heathcliff's face. She's the one PUSHING back against it.

>>536610176
>Someone spent money on this

>>536611124
Hence why I'm more worried about Sinclair than about Yi Sang, and why I reiterated that Sinclair has no way to increase his count application

>>536611320
>>has to use the one guy that has crippling oneitis
Kinda fucked up

>>536600195 (OP)
Mon amour

>if this unit has burn gain bloodflame
>the only ways to self inflict burn is via skills that give you bloodflame already
i see, i mean i guess he technically counters burn

>>536611282
The only way for him to self inflict a negative effect is to lose a clash with counter, which you kinda don't want, or even worse lose a clash with S3, which you REALLY don't want

>>536610176
Getting closer and closer to full on porn, I see

>>536611543
It's probably just there to help him out if he loses a clash turn 1.

>every single semi-decent (more like middling) ID that I got is blunt weak
>and they have almost no blunt attacks themselves
>only one very, very shitty for ID for Ish (also blunt weak and slash exclusive attacks, hasn't been leveled nor used her since like canto 2)
>reach THE fight
I really dun goofed.

>>536611602
Where do you think I'm going next?

>>536611589
I think he should gain "blood" "flame" if he has either bleed or burn desu

>>536611752
idk why I thought Zenyaposters were seasoned players

>>536611802(me)
Fuck, it's on combat end. Never mind

Ryoshubros...I can feel it...

>>536250707
Well well well, would you look at that. I was right about Weisang having extra synergy with Ishchun. You can apologize now btw.

I am king

>>536612381
Heathcliff ID next? Yup.

Nice season.

Hopenonnies, are we heckin hyperino for 12 Heish-...ehh I mean Samurai-san IDs for canto 9?
Clearly this is what you guys like right? Wouldn't want a variety of finger IDs with unique designs if we could just get a mainline with the same monotonous outfits and color schemes for an entire canto.

>>536602030
>obsidian exoskeleton for protection
Isn't obsidian one of the most brittle and fragile materials? Why would you make an exoskeleton out of it? This retard literally has glass bones.

>rodion doomnigger post
Get some new material

>>536612895
Ok but if we get 1 singular finger ID you have to livestream your suicide

>>536612915
alot of people think of the color of the mineral
though i suppose they should have gone with onyx

Are you excited for heishou (charge) and heishou (sinking) next week?

>>536600836
Just got out of bed to slurp some tap water btw. I will be slurping the new IDs on release day as well, of course.

>>536612895
>Wouldn't want a variety of finger IDs with unique designs if we could just get a mainline with the same monotonous outfits and color schemes for an entire canto.
Have you seen the finger IDs retard?

>>536607143
Philip will prob be better in MD still because of speedrunning the only reason to run a burn team in MD.
But in Content he's prob an easy replacement / upgrade, slot in Hong and have Xi-Mael in the back to give burn a sin generator out of the assist attacks.

>>536607341
Where do I find more Xi-Chun Creatures btw, what's the actual keyword to look for them, I see people posting ones I can't find with just Xichun creature, is there foreign tags?

>Umasang gives poise to ish
>the ID that loses the entire fucking stack every turn because she literally bleeds count

incredible, just delete the ID and pretend it never happened

>>536612979
Wow they're gonna throw us a shitty pinkie hobo and a "hag in suit" thumb Outis? I'm beyond hyped!

Bros... The /lcg/ from the mirror world where Maost got nerfed are laughing at us...

>>536613334
Ok but you didn't decline my offer though, that livestream better be in full HD

>>536613270
Small indie company, please understand.

>>536613270
>one single ID I can think of that gives Poise COUNT to allies from their support passive
>It's fucking BL Sang
It's never been more over

Just woke up. What's the verdict on the new IDs?

>some retard itt is going absolutely BERSERK trying to pretend an extra S3 will save Ishchun
Top tier kek

>>536613334
*pinky
My brain is melting from this heat(22C) it seems...
>>536613398
Are hopenons ready to blast their brains off after spring cultivation turns into a flop?

gn /lcg/

>>536613450
Maidshu and Ahabmael aswell but the former means -1 Mao to your rupture team and the latter means no Xichun lmao

>>536613450
Damn was BL don just potency then?

please let weisang have jia family tag

>>536613462
Kinda bleh until we know the numbers.

>>536613501
gn bwo

What's stopping R Corp from telefragging other CEOs in a wing war by making clones of them and waiting for seven days?

>If both are on the field, Xichunmael gains more poise potency on skill use
The attack power up is nice, but her main issue is maintaining her own count, without playing on MD she's just gonna run out even faster.

Also cockclair seems nice, tons of count on hit, and tons of coins to proc rupture. Yi sang also seems fun, with his enhanced S3 looking a tad more restrictive, concussion alone may make him worthwhile. I'll at least swap out Greg from my team when farming MD now for Sinclair.

Will Lord Lu be used on burn to take advantage of his Heishou bolus contamination?

>>536613462
Need the numbers
Obviously
But, as it stands it seems like Yi Sang is in the Hong Kong + heishou squad because of concussion
Remains to be seen if Xichunmael and Sinclair are worth

>>536613719
Bad writing.

>>536613485
>the same S3 that deals ~30 damage camouflaged as 100 because it hits multiple enemies

wew

>>536613719
All niggers involved with the cloning process will be executed

>>536613462
Both look count negative, especially cockclair who just slashes away like a lunatic with 3/4/4 coins
Umasang paid the DS tax but otherwise looks okay. Concussion multiplying rupture damage (because Maost needed to be even stronger) is amazing.No new deathrites though, how sad.

>>536613719
Consider that R corp is the one breaking the taboo, not the ceo.

>>536613719
Good writing.

Doesn't the new Heishou's make Lord Hong Lu like a Tremor / Burn pick?
>Tremor team
Set up time moratorium, then S3 into the combo video of attacks w' Sang & Ishchun which are now boosted under moratorium?
After this Hong now bursts with all his skills converting him to a tremor ID.
>Burn
S3 to get Sinclair to drop another S3 then Tag out into Ishchun who then'll tag herself out back into Sinclair who'll assist attack S3 again when he does?

>Monkey Don
Beefier version of BL Don but for rupture
>Dragonsault
pseudo rupture deluge with a hard cap
>Bullcliff
Gazillion class/final power conditionals

>they're both super count negative
Why even make this Heishou meme squad if you're gonna make it unusable? The Maos can't keep up with 4 IDs that annihilate your count

>>536613719
CEOs don't leave their genetic sample in some random alleyways for them to collect.

>>536613958
Brickmael isn't being used in tremor or burn.

>>536613725
>without playing on MD she's just gonna run out even faster
Assuming you dont use her defense skill after 3 turns because retreating will wipe her poise entirely

>>536613962
STOP USING RUPTURE
STOP USING THE BROKEN SHIT WE MADE BY ACCIDENT
GRIND THE ACHIEVEMENTS
THIS IS A THREAT

>>536613962
>Heishous will be bricked next season with the expanded team because Dogrector sabotaged their count generation
Grim.

>>536613958
That's actually kinda cool of an idea.

>Open /lcg/
>Doomposting
>Close /lcg/

>>536613962
This is probably how they're going to balance rupture in the future. Introduce more IDs with 3 or 4+ coin skills that sink your count generation.

>>536614472
>They will "balance" rupture by giving it enough coins to make use of its count
Sounds good.

>>536614472
>balance
Can't wait for them to "balance" dark flame by just not making it work on bosses

>>536613719
How do they get other Wing CEO to get in the pod?

>>536613725
>without playing on MD she's just gonna run out even faster.
In MD you have nebulizer EGO gift. In RR you have the nebulizer passive. And in story mode you have Thorocalgia EGO. So you should be fine in every game mode.

>>536614472
>build rupture around Maost S3-2 spam
uh.....ok? Not sure what Director is trying to prove with this

>>536614730
Story never lasts long enough for Thoragalcia to kick in.

Xichunmael S2 is extremely underrated, 4 coin mean she activate Rupture like no tomorrow
Also is it just me or her S3 really seem like it was meant to be 3 coin but Director nerfed it? The animation suggest 3 coins

>>536614653
>Passive: This unit cannot receive more than 150 damage per turn from Burn, Bleed, Tremor, Rupture, or Sinking and their unique variants.

>>536614824
Nah, a lot of the story fights take a lot of turns. Like Jia Qiu who has the shield you have to wear down with clashing or grandma with her 10 billion HP gates that stop your turn early.

>>536614878
>4 coin mean she activate Rupture like no tomorrow
Too bad both hong and the new cockclair have that

>Turn 1 Magic bullet EGO using mechanic god gave me
>S1 (Which rolls fucking 17 BTW) now inflicts 3 dark flame over 2 turns
>S2 now inflicts 2 dark flame + MB amount of it
>I check steam discussions page, I see downplay of this because Firepunch Gregor can open on S3 or some shit
Why are people retarded?

>>536614653
Directors idea of balancing burn is adding a 30 damage cap to skills

>>536614930
.....Im gonna assume you're not running maost because oh how wrong you are

>>536604005
Uh... Binah

>>536615110
Who's that OC on the right?

>>536615078
Truly we live in a cursed timeline.

if you used mao faust in story it doesn't count

You instantly know someone's opinion is wrong if they say uma in their post

Vergillius ID with Superthermogenesis will save Burn

>>536615091
I use Maost. It doesn't matter how much damage she deals when Grandma ends your turn in the middle of her S3 and cancels it. Stall mechanics like this are in basically every final story boss.

>>536615091
NTA but I played rupture against Jia Qiu and he still took a load of turns.

>>536614878
>Also is it just me or her S3 really seem like it was meant to be 3 coin but Director nerfed it? The animation suggest 3 coins
Xichunmael was released after Maost. She was most definitely panic nerfed in development, there's no other way of explaining that atrocious poise gain and retreat gimmick bullshit

https://files.catbox.moe/4mi77j.jpg
I wanna impregnate ryoshu

>>536615202
That just deals the equivalent of pale damage.

>>536615343
Sinner of the last digit did this. If 4 Sinclair.

>>536615341
Retard. Xichun ally has the same coin and animation.

>>536615341
Maost tax isn't real. The units released after still include multiple top tiers.

>>536615471
wowzers

>>536615242
And? You use her S3 again and jump right to the next hp gate. You can skip the tree phase entirely too
>>536615267
I dont know how. Use fluid sac early, win clashes, dont let your units die and the fight is basically won once hong gets the three dialogues. 10 turns tops

>>536615513
>multiple
Such as..arguably Leisault and who else?
KoDya doesn't count because she's a walpipi btw

>>536615592
>10 turns tops
I think 10 turns is enough time for Thoracalgia to kick in.

I wonder how Sinclair reacted upon realising the Rooster bolus turns you into a Eunuch.

>>536615650
>use fluid sac early
A real smart one, arent you?

>>536615683
Are you implying that Si Greg has hemipenes?

>>536615726
Newbab wasn't here when this EGO dropped lol

>>536615593
Can Maost clear MD10 in 10 minutes? I didn't think so.

So these are like a burn & tremor support with the Heishou keyword on them?
That's cool I guess.

>>536615830
I want this meme to die already. Fellsang is one of the worst designs in a season with xichun ish in it.

>>536615593
Jia Ishmael was used for the RR world record, so she's top tier. I don't make the rules.

>>536615932
I mean he's good for speedrunning MD. What is Leisault good for? Not top-tier for speedrunning mds, not top-tier for RR, not top-tier for quickly clearing story. He's mid compared to Fellsang.

>>536615823
>needs pride A-res to spread poise to ishchun
>on a team with barely any pride skills
Go on anon, list the pride skills the Heishou have. Here, I'll help you out. Ishchun has ZERO pride skills.

>>536606037
Because you're a faggot, I decided to do the math for you
On average TT is dealing between 50-115 damage. 50 being no conditions, and 115 with conditions, i.e, the coin reuse and bleed
Xichumael is dealing between 45-105 damage, which her conditions include the poise crit, the damage modifier, and a bare minimum of +2 from horsesang
Your ID that you refuse to shut the fuck up about deals less damage than a S1 ID

>>536615984
>>536616036
13 free lunacy have been deposited into your account

>>536616036
He's good on tremor treams and for boss fights. Why should I give a shit about ten minute MD clears when I could actually have fun playing MD with a actual team?

>>536615984
It's true. Zwei Faust is top tier now too.

>>536616048
>Go on anon, list the pride skills the Heishou have.
Lord Hong
Mao Ryoshu
Mao Faust
Snake Greg
With EGO on top. And you are, of course, doubleslotting Maost.

>>536610789
iirc FScliff was changed slightly

>>536616069
>45-105 damage, which her conditions include the poise crit, the damage modifier, and a bare minimum of +2 from horsesang
There is no way it's THAT bad.

>>536616048
>LeiSault can get both the 15K damage and 80 clash power cheevos at once
Oof

>>536616158
>He's good on [SUB-OPTIMAL TEAMS]
Lol!
>and for boss fights
He's much slower at clearing boss fights compared to a meta rupture team. He's not good!

>>536615830
Pic unrelated I assume? Unless you're talking about the ego, in which case that came before Maost so lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBh8tSfEeFQ

>>536616229
It is. You can do the math yourself. TT Lu is basically getting 20% damage boost on his coin 1 and 2, and 70% boost on his coin 3 and 4, which is why he's dealing that much damage

Who cares about Railway records? I don't even have access to that yet.

>>536616171
It's used for the WR, so...

>>536616306
>BL Sang slower by 5 seconds in comparison to Gubo Sang
Bros..?

>>536616461
Who cares about railway*
Wow, I sure love fighting envy peccatulas and winrating piss-easy abnos

>>536616229
>>536616069
>>536616410
I did the math and her max damage should be 154 per target, only looking at the skill itself, not factoring in any outside buffs. And that's before factoring in the AOE which multiples the damage by up to 3. Not sure how you came to 105 max damage.

>>536616601
You're factoring high rupture?

>You won't be able to run Heishou meme teams until a full pack releases
didn't they learn their lesson from Thumb Shitclair and Meur? You need at least 3 of these idiots to double dip before you can also grab both gifts. are these retards really just going to release a single Heishou for every Sinner without completing a single Pack?

>>536616193
>>536616193
>two of those pride skills are S3s
Lmao it's almost like you're trying to hide something
>and ego on top
So you're gutting your damage to chain pride zayins.....just to make Outis with TPM's passive outdo ishchun. Lol.
>And you are, of course, doubleslotting Maost.
If you're doubleslotting Maost you're not running ishchun in the first place because no backups means no replacement when she fucks off

Give me one good reason as to why the Liu doesn’t have a MD gift but the Zwei, the Seven and even the fucking Cinq do?

>>536614472
>Rupture
>balanced by having shitty gimped units because of a singular unit before it becomes as consistent as every other status at stacking potency/count and breaks the game because the entire mechanic was a mistake with zero futureproofing
Where have I seen this before

>>536616832
Because the director hasn't made them yet, duh.

>>536616832
We'll meet Xiao and Lowell having bed breaking handholding marital sex for the intervallo after Meursault's canto
Then you'll get your Liu MD gifts

>Weisang and Sincock are ass to pay for Maost's sins
Why isn't Rupture allowed to become broken as Peak Bleed?

I did the math too and got 189 for Hong Lu and 130 for Ishmael, not counting 99 rupture

>>536616646
>You're factoring high rupture?
Duh, she's a rupture ID. Her max conditionals are pretty easy to reach too because you get to add poise and rupture.

>Canto 8 already ran out of exciting characters to made ID out of
HOLY…gr*m

>>536616782
>>two of those pride skills are S3s
bwo your pride poise teams are all pride s3s

>>536616934
Peak Bleed knelt to rupture with just 2 Maos though

>>536616782
>no backups means no replacement when she fucks off
Lmfao you know she only retreats when you make her activate it with her defense skill at 3+ launcher? You can just... not do that.

Vergillius ID will save Bleed

>Hong Kong orders Mao Faust to skill 3
>>this version does not have assist defence
Unfortunate, though I guess it would be WAY too busted if it did

>THIS ID WILL BE BAD TRUST ME BRO!!!!
You niggas love to play the same song and dance every season, don't you? how many times has /lcg/ been correct with it's doomposting? remember when this thread made fun of Fullstop Heathcliff?

Posting popular fan demand

>>536616943
>ish is higher if we include the bonus damage the rest of the team is buiding up for her, duh!
In that case, we should be fair and factor in that rupture damage into Hong's calculations too since neither of them can maintain a rupture stack for shit

Have people ever even used the lordsguard part of Lord Hong's kit?

>>536613962
>>they're both super count negative
>see Yi Sang
>+1+1+0+0 with DS

>>536617216
>remember when this thread made fun of Fullstop Heathcliff?
I remember. The constant "just a benchwarner" or "shitty animations" got switched to "a ten second animation is way too long so he's a bad ID".

>>536617242
I miss her so much...

>>536616934
>gimp talisman sinclair because rupture units had ass conditionals to pay for his sins
>introduce maost in the same breath and also bend the knee to the chinese
the cycle repeats itself again and again and again and again

>>536617216
>how many times has /lcg/ been correct with it's doomposting?
1-2

>>536617256
>In that case, we should be fair and factor in that rupture damage into Hong's calculations too since neither of them can maintain a rupture stack for shit
I'm talking about the conditional damage up she gets based on rupture on enemy/poise on self. I wasn't talking about the damage proccing rupture does.

>>536617216
Yeah bro totally just look at Yi Sang's last 000

>>536617012
>pride defense skills everywhere
cool
>>536617048
>You can just... not do that.
Then why run ishchun in the first place? Even Si Greg can do better with his S3 critting for +300% bonus damage. And has a deathrite for maost

>>536617362
You're not supposed to say the truth

>>536617382
which ones

What is the ideal Heishou team?

>>536617362
This is the minimum count application too. DS is way easier to get than Ebony stem too, and using it multiple times makes the EGO itself +6 count.

>>536617463
>best MD speedrunner ID
I looked

>>536617560
Maost and Lantern Don

>>536617216
I didn't. Don't badmouth me cunt >>509173951

>>536617460
>I'm talking about the conditional damage up she gets based on rupture on enemy/poise on self
That was addressed already
>which her conditions include the poise crit, the damage modifier
The only way the number could be higher is if you include the rupture procs

did sinclair really need his 99th good ID when ryoshu doesn't has (1) playable ID and it exists purely to jerk off hong lu

>>536617606
No one cares about MD speedrunning.

Are people really comparing Xichunmale (Season 6 ID) with TT Honglu (Season 0 release ID) and believe she is the best ID because it's ever so slightly better compared to TT if you have another Event Season 6 ID in the team that specifically buffs her? What are they smoking?

How does it feel for Sinclair to get two 00 (forma 000) IDs in a row?
First Thumbclair
Now single page Cockclair

>>536617730
Maoshu and Maidshu are both very playable.

>>536617759
>No one cares about the only way to dispense IDs and EGOs
Yeah sure

>>536617806
Xichunfags are doing everything in their power to prove her ID is viable and their waifu wasn't wasted on a shit ID

>>536617834
No one cares about Sinclair anyway so it's not really a big deal
I mean, unless you WANTED your sinner to be a thumb grunt or join the heishouslop brigade, I guess

>>536616306
>uhhh actually it doesn't matter that Maost is built for BNCC (Big N Corp Cock) as long as it's just the EGO
Lol?

So I replace Gregor and Ishmael with Yi Sang and Sinclair?

>>536617560
Hmmm
Depends on the content
>>winrate Mirror Dungeon
>Hong Kong
>Mao trio
>Wei Sang
>Si Rodion
>You Sinclair
>>Si Greg on bench

If it's for actual content and your goal is to reduce number of turns etc...
Then I think Si Rodion might be on the bench instead of Si Gregor
Her skill 3 is strong but it's only that a skill 3 and unpredictable
Si Gregor is better because his skill 2 has reuse
But also, you will probably have to interact with retreat mechanics through Hong Kong and Xichunmael

>>536617834
>Thumbclair
Thumbclair is good.

>>536617929
You don't even know how much starlight they use

>>536617470
>Then why run ishchun in the first place?
She has great DPS, procs rupture a lot with her S2, and she's going to get even better with Yi Sang. She already outdamages both the snakes on all my MD runs, and depending on the gift/pack setup she'll sometimes outdamage the Mao too.

>>536617806
>What are they smoking?
If I were to guess, High grade copium.

>>536617947
Point is that every release past Maost has been neutered, whatever blacked fantasy you have can't refute this

>>536617942
It's funny because xichun's raw kit is better.

>>536617985
Multicrack Heath is good
Lantern Don is good
Butler Faust is good
There are are good 00s out there.

>>536617948
Gregor has the only deathrite on S2 while sinclair has jackshit and is probably only good in non-heishou poise MD. Gregor might be better in story because hes potentially more count positive than whatever sinclair is.

Reddit still calls her potential woman, you think you're better than reddit? Don't kid yourself.

I used to theorize stuff like how Maidshu was able to raise Heathcliff, or how Faust was able to infiltrate Sinclair's school, but after this shit, I realized none of it matters

>>536618058
ME HUNGRY
ME WANT BLOOD

>/lcg/ metafagging AGAIN
Oh my god can you guys shut up

>>536618058
Unbreakable coins are so well designed.

>blacked out of nowhere
Yep...that's a faustbro alright...

>>536618071
>She has great DPS, procs rupture a lot with her S2, and she's going to get even better with Yi Sang.
Wrong on all three fronts. she cant maintain rupture count, she cant maintain poise, cant crit reliably and was supposed tibget better with Hong at first too.
>already outdamages both the snakes on all my MD runs
>MD
lol look at the goalposts move
>Ishchun
>outdamaging Si Rodion's 5 crit AoE S3
Did you honestly expect anyone would believe that? This is so fucking sad to watch.

I'm mad
I need the skin system so I won't be mad

>>536618267
>non-heishou poise MD
As in a heishou team that's not meeting poise gift requirements*

>>536618323
no

>>536618092
>Point is that [Headcanon]

>>536618317
YOU GREEDY BASTARD
>>536618326
I unironically liked it, it was challenging (won anyways)

>Need Chickenclair, Horsesang, and Xichunmael for the full 120%
>20% can't exist once you get Chickenclair
Fuck you too KJH

So do we know why Dante wished for a mirror world where Faust is obsessed with Sinclair, or a world where she serves Hong Lu as her lord?

>>536618529
It is capped at 100%

>>536618326
They were, until people like you cried you were losing and now they do 0 damage when broken

>>536618058
Was it the Railway pack?
Seems like you don't have Shatterbound Canon at the least
You... might have actually lost if you had it lmao

If I were in charge, I'd obliterate EVERY damage modifier above 50% and never let normal skills roll above 30 without a lot of work
Also remove attack weight outside of really special or weak skills

>>536618478
Next you'll say that Talismantax wasnt real and that 15/3 was good and innovative

>>536618582
Next you're going to say heishous are well designed.

>>536618478
Enjoy your BL Sang sidegrade, I guess

>>536618529
It's going to be a long and humiliating month for Ishbros when Xichun is outrolling and outdamaging her.

>>536618649
What's wrong with Heishos aside from Maost?