Thread 536770217

Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:
https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/
https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/

>Origins Portrait Rips:
https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA

>Origins Font Fixes:
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602 (EO1)
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609 (EO2)
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653 (EO3)

>EO3 "Liberating" Mod
PC:
https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zip
PC hair version:
https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zip
Switch:
https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8
Switch hair version:
https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeH
Edited portraits:
https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip

>Beginner's Guide to the Series:
https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U

>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):
https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra

>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:
https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy

>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:
https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF

>Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:
https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB

>Nexus balance patch mod:
https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg

>Document containing some resources and information
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/

Previous thread: >>534228514

Hehehehe hexers smell bad

Sub-optimal fencer

THUNDER FIST

>>536777968
-ing

Is it happening?

>>536784171
6 is going to have smt v tier graphics and models

>>536785563
Will it also be full of sexo like SMTV?

>>536777968
And the slightly nerfed Nexus version

>>536785563
I don't think we need graphics more intensive than something like Twilight Princess or FFXII or maybe even what we already had with V but Fatlus probably thinks differently even though it'd balloon the cost and dev times.

>>536791325
We're definitly getting a third person battle camera with SMT5 quaility models at least. Lower Budget is a lost art outside of ninty

>>536794030
I hope not, Etrian does not need 3D models for every portrait. It would be too much work and probably end up limiting the amount of portraits we'd get.

>only 1 portrait per class
>but weapon and armor is now reflected on the portrait
worth it yes or no

>>536801507
Absolutely not.

>>536801507
No thanks. I only care about loli and flat girl portraits and this would inevitably not work out for me and end up severely limiting my selection. Having some portraits with different weapon type alterations might be okay though.

>>536801507
That would rob us of too many potential portraits that are superior to the default.

>>536801507
only if the portraits are all lolis

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

>>536791325
>FFXII
This game holds up so god damn well visually.

Solid art design goes so far, unfortunately, despite how good the art is in Etrian, I don't think we'd ever see an EO game of this quality.

At best we'll get something of better fidelity, but overly stylized to hide the low budget.

>>536801507
Why would it need to be? If they're already making images of every piece of armor and weaponry, then that should map onto all the default portraits just the same. You'd only need slightly different angles for most of them.

>>536831063
cute ohohohos

>>536784171
>Needs more time
They've had a goddamn decade.

>>536784171
soon xd

sexo

Kaishaku.

>>536832067
5 more years

They will announce 6 within the next 2 years.

sticc

>>536854178
12 yrs minimum

flat chests please

Do you prefer your damage done in one big hit or several smaller ones?

>>536882001
tits too big

>>536881990
Always preferred multi hit like Ricochet. Just looks and sounds more satisfying. Really dislike how they insist on putting a huge rng variable on those skills, they could at least have tightened the spread more.

>>536881990
I prefer both.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/134305106
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/134305228
4HD when?

>>536895221
Two weeks.

>>536896840
I'm hoping for the pre-TGS Direct as well. Or maybe they'll just announce it on it's own, who knows.

>>536897238
>14

Elemental imbues are the best

>>536808520
Sex with this thing

>>536897064
I was just making a "two more weeks" joke, completely forgetting that there's usually a Direct around that time. It'd be nice if we got something but I'm not holding my breath.

>>536918341
TGS never really has many announcements, the actual announcements always seem to happen in things like Directs and State of Plays beforehand. There usually is a Direct before TGS but we just had one not long ago so I don't know if it's happening anymore.

Are there no indies that went "fine I'll do it myself" in response to no EO news? There are indie wizardrylikes here and there, afaik just not one that aims for the EO vibe.

>>536926573
witch and lilies is a bad eo1 like
marked as early access but the game is finished with 6 stratums of 5 floors each just like etriam

>>536929109
Still waiting for them to actually finish it any day now so I can try it.

Bump

>>536889312
>Really dislike how they insist on putting a huge rng variable on those skills
They're usually balanced so that a roll of 2 is a damage loss compared to using a single hit skill, a roll of 3 is average damage and rolls of 4 or 5 are above average damage. In this way you only truly get screwed on 1 out 4 rolls.
Even skills like Squall Volley in EO4 with massive variance in their number of hits are balanced favourably like that. A max rank Silver Arrow is 260% damage, but a max rank Squall Volley (which rolls 6-16 hits) does 50% per hit for a 300% damage minimum even if you only roll the 6 hits.
Nightseeker's Swift Edge in Nexus is yet another example of how they balance multi-hits
>max rank Shadow Bite against an ailing target is 630% damage
>Swift Edge rolls from 3 to 9 hits of 120% damage at max rank against ailing targets
>a 3 roll is 360% - you get screwed
>a 4 roll is 480% - you get screwed
>a 5 roll is 600% - almost equivalent to Shadow Bite
>the remaining 4 rolls are all higher than Shadow Bite - out of 7 possible rolls, more than half the time you benefit compared to using the reliable single-hit attack
It's one of my favourite things about how these games are balanced.

>>536850618
>Sora
>Riku
>Kai
Took me too long to realise that was Kairi without the ri
>Guild Amphibious
kino

>>536882001
Seriously though, what the fuck were they thinking with this design

>>536954916
SEXO
MILKERS
SIZE DIFFERENCE
MANHANDLE HER TINY BODY
PORTABLE SEX RELIEF

Is what Himukai was thinking probably

>>536954916
iirc Himukai originally wanted her to be flat but Komori said to give her boobs. There was some reason for it that I don't remember.

>>536954916
they decided to appeal to me specifically

>>536955359
Fat juicy titties give men life just like DFC

Very sex indeed

>>536961948
The perfect woman

This is also sex
Both screens

>>536965207
tmuuy bnuuy...

Green haired, tanned bunny tummy

>>536968017
This too, is also sex

>>536961948
>no floors AND no walls doors
AAEEIII

>>536972848
5headshark my beloved

>>536929109
No hate but it does that thing of most modern wizardyvanias where dungeons and enemies are overly gloomy, often doing a big mismatch with your player characters, I think part of the EO appeal is that even their darkest dungeons (which I guess would be Fetid Netropolis?) makes sure to add some color and the colorful artstyle of the player characters generously extends to the enemies too.

>>536991907
>their darkest dungeons (which I guess would be Fetid Netropolis?)
I'd say Hall of Darkness is a bit darker, and not just for the name
but even that place has the fabulous pumpkin FOE trio

>>536972848
Do we like Hexers?

>>537008078
We love all ailment and/or bind focused etriams in this general

>>536991907
The dungeons in EO tend to have a very intimate and romantic quality to them, even Fetid Necropolis, though that might be more because of the music. The art direction for EO dungeons sure is lovely and does a lot of the heavy lifting too and even a place like the Hall of Darkness offers a bit of levity like >>536998256 mentioned because of the usually cartoonish monster designs. I'm just spouting my scattered thoughts here but the way the audio and visuals come together is part of what makes the series so magical for me and one of the reasons why I'm always wanting to see what comes next.

>>536991907
Part of that is the wizardry influence. Wizardry is a Dark, dingy series with an oppressive atmosphere at all times (In the japanese translation where all the lighthearted jokes were either excised or flew over nip heads) and it left an impression on the japanese for how dungeons are "supposed" to be.

>>537009157
i hate ailment and binds because trying to land them stresses me out
hexer however

>>537013262
While I do understand where does it come from, and as the RPG genre as a whole evolved only autists fixated on this particular variety, I'll still complain about this trope. Even so, it's something unlike western devs (eg Grimrock) with an even more generic arstyle and general ambience.

exceedingly stressful etriams

>>536991907
The calming atmosphere and pretty environments are one of the major reasons I like EO. The "dark dungeon/cave with a shade of gray and brown full of skeletons" setting is ugly, overdone and does not inspire joy.

>>536968017
kill all bnnuis

etriam cunts

Etriam cunnys

Kaishaku.

I reached the post game in EO1 HD. I'm happy there's more to explore, that B26F was a tad annoying but I mapped it all out.
Anyway, I hit the level cap. I didn't know it was 70, I just presumed it was 99. It's not necessary to have party members with retirement bonuses is it? It seems like it would take quite a while to train up new party members. I'm fine with grinding sometimes but level 1 to 60+ is a big ask.
I'm not looking for optimal builds but what are some skills I sort of need? Just so I don't have to rest my party members constantly. Thanks.

>>537054035
Forgot to share my party member classes.
Swordsman
Paladin
Dark Hunter
Medic
Alchemist

>>537054035
in eo1 retirement is crap and not worth worrying about
starting with 2 is when the bonus is enough that you might want to consider with it

stick

>>537094151
Jenetta sexo

WAR REVIVE

>>536950957
Swift edge has an average of 720% damage, with 3 rolls (3-5) being negative and 3 rolls being positive (7-9), for either half of the expected damage (360%) at worst or 50% more at max (1080%).
Half of expected at 50% is much worse than 50% more dmg (the opposite of half would be double damage). This makes the whiff roll really really bad.
You also usually only have a limited burst window, or maybe even one turn where you pop things like Final Decree. Getting a bad roll on those specific turns screws you over massively. And ailments don't stick around forever either.
It gets even worse if we compare with shadow bite. Shadow bite does 630% damage. The average of swift edge at 720% is only 14% more damage. Bite costs 16TP, and SE costs 25TP. You are paying significantly more (56%) TP for only 14% more DPS on average WITH a chance of getting completely screwed over.
Yes you can get lucky but most of the time reliability is more important. If you would consistently use the skill every turn you would pull out ahead, but usually that's not realistic. You also cant sleep bomb with SE like with SB, but that's mostly only relevant in this case for NS. The only real upside of multi-hit attacks is that they (usually) can proc chases.
I like the multi-hit effect but as I said before I wish they would tighten the spread to be more consistent. For some reason the game is allergic to having consistent multi-hit attacks.

>>537107185
>I like the multi-hit effect but as I said before I wish they would tighten the spread to be more consistent. For some reason the game is allergic to having consistent multi-hit attacks.
I always think of 5 Ring Sword when it comes to that, 2 to 10 is way too wide a range for damage, especially with the damage per hit. I'd say 8 to 10 would be ideal, but even if you'd find that too strong then you should at least go with 5 or 6 to 10.

Hehehehehe wildlings are smelly

>>537113539
Not as smelly as me

>>537107185
I also forgot to mention in my wall of text that swift edge has -20% accuracy. So that brings the potential even lower and pretty much voids the average 14% DPS increase over shadow bite if you have an occasional miss. Although in practice NS doesn't miss that often due to their stats.

>>537108369
If they doubled the min hits on 5ring together with the max (4-10) it would already feel a lot better. But preferably like 6-10 at minimum. That gives you 8 average with the possibility of getting 2 less or 2 more hits. Or just make it do 6 hits always and be done with it.
No other skills have these big RNG penalties to them. Skills cant even crit. There are skills like helm splitter with huge accuracy problem but that is something the player can do something about.
In nexus they changed 5ring from 2-10 hits to 3-10, yay I guess?

Picrel is going to be my first Etrian game. I hear I should ply the story to unlock classes but what should I expect from this game?

>>537121254
Good times and dungeon crawls

>>537121254
>ply the story to unlock classes
you got lied to, there are story exclusive classes but they won't provide a meaningfully different experience, nor is new game+ a particularly transformative experience with those classes ""unlocked"".
That said it's still a reasonable idea cause it's a competent party so you'll be less likely to rage quit due to a shitty party making the game frustratingly difficult. Just be aware that you aren't getting the TRVE etriam experience, story mode is pretty divisive and I don't like it personally.
>what should I expect from this game?
Play on expert which is actually just normal mode i.e. the intended difficulty, even for your first game.
Also if you are new to Atlus games in general the age old
>use buffs, retard
adage still applies

>le millenom girl
also watch out for sticky stuff

>>537067369
sticc's stick

CHAIN FLAME

>Etrian 3 60% off
>still has denuvo
It's like they hate money

>>537121254
No, it's the opposite. Avoid story mode at all costs, it'll give you the wrong impression about the series.

>>537121254
Play classic mode if you like the story cast. Ricky is cute.

>>537145583
Who cares, just buy it if you want to support an actual good series.

>>536770217 (OP)
After the thread on /v/ yesterday I dusted off my copy of III HD and I'm really struggling. I'm on Floor 15/16 and the only one of my five characters who can do good damage is my Zodiac, and even then only with Etheric Charge and if the enemy has an elemental weakness. I'm constantly fishing for instant-kills because otherwise fights drag on too long. Right now my party is
>Monk/Princess
>Hoplite/Ninja
>Gladiator/Buccaneer
>Zodiac/Buccaneer
>Ninja/Zodiac
Any reccomendations for how I can do damage? I'm not afraid of going down to Picnic and grinding, but I'd rather not because I did it already today since I was trying to get a Yggdroid to work (I'm not convinced it can be done).
Also I'm still miffed that I got to what I'm assuming was the end of the floor, only to be surprised attack, got the whole party put to sleep, and stomped by a sauropod...

>>537156438
I was playing the same party. It's rough doing damage at that level. I beelined to meteor on my zodiac and had my ninja TP battery the hell out of her and spam any skills with everyone else. I went Zodiac/Glad for charge > meteor for burst damage.

Gladiator/bucc might not pay off til you can get their agi up for pincusions. Glad/Arb probably works out better as front mortor doesn't need that much investment.

Try leveling Ninja's Izuna. Most random encounters will die to it. It's insane as a hard enemy delete button.

>>537153940
good goy

>>537156438
Your party right now is very defense and support heavy so it makes sense that you're not doing damage. I'm not sure why you went buccaneer for gladiator sub but for random encounters they'll need sword AOE moves to perform better, or a high level of wild swings if you're using a mace. Charge the first turn, then dark ether the AOE because gladiator have terrible TP pools. Ninja can shutdown enemies on the first turn with their sleep daggers to help setup the second turn. Izuna is good as well and will be more reliable than beheading. You could give your monk some fist skills like breakfire fist or darkness fist to help out with AOE if you want to. A hoplite/ninja isn't going to do much damage no matter what. Subbing them shogun can open them up a bit more offensively with things like great warrior, warrior's might, and kaishaku if you're feeling risky. Kaishaku will definitely help finish enemies off in random encounters but it always has the risk of finishing off your allies.

>>537162324
I bought it on Switch, I never know how you PC guys play games in first place. It's always either bitching about performance, bitching about denuvo, or both. I thought denuvo was hated because it fucks with performance or something but I don't see how such simple games would be impacted by it in any significant way. If denuvo gets your panties in a twist that much then don't buy it, I don't care. It's genuinely a good game and a good series that's worth supporting however.

wrapping up Labyrinth of Refrain prior to postgame, I still don't know how in the fuck item synthesis actually works and I hope NEXT doesn't have anything comparable to it
god I hope they rerelease IV or anything besides Mystery Dungeon soon

>>537175603
We're getting Mystery Dungeon Collection next.

>>537156438
>I was trying to get a Yggdroid to work (I'm not convinced it can be done).
I've been summoned once again as the #1 Ygg apologist.
Here's a breakdown on Yggs.

>General Information
Yggs are a very good class that's often misunderstood because they work different from the other classes. Unlike other classes that use subclassing to complement their main class, Yggs' main class complements their subclass.
They have the highest HP, highest STR and 2nd highest VIT; while their TEC and AGI is subpar, their LUC is downright terrible and their TP is stuck at 60.

>Strengths and Toolkit
Their main gimmick is binding themselves to passively regenerate TP through Sleep Mode, which heals up to 10TP per bind every turn. This is probably the least impressive part about Yggs and it's mostly just so you don't have to worry about carrying Amritas with you.
The strength of the Ygg lies on their fantastic passives and stats.
Yggs are naturally immune to binds that don't come from their own skills, add to that Virus Scanner 10 (50% ailment resistance) and Yggs are extremely hard to lock down.
Infravision compensates for their subpar AGI by giving them 40% increase to evasion and hit rate at night, making them bulky classes that can also dodge a lot of attacks.
Overheat is an insane passive damage buff and the HP cost isn't nearly as taxing as it seems as long as you have a Hoplite or anyone on healing duty.
Their bots are also surprisingly useful if you're not using the 6th slot in your party. They chase your party's elemental attacks with TEC elemental damage. The bots have the Ygg's stats, so their TEC isn't very high, so to compensate they gave them very high damage numbers (170% TEC damage at level 10) so if you give your Ygg TEC equipment and books the damage can start getting higher.
Lastly, HP Cannon. It's not very good HOWEVER, it's very funny to use against the true final boss.

>>537156438
>>537179053
>Subclassing Options
>Ygg/Glad
Highest STR in the game and Infravision makes Blade Rave consistent as all hell and Nine Smashes into an actually reliable option. Also, Overheat > Berserker Vow > Charge > Blade Rave is very funny.
>Ygg/Hop
Arguably the best Hop in the game. Highest HP, 2nd highest VIT, immunity to binds, 50% resistance to all ailments with Virus Scanner and 40% increase to evasion with Infravision makes them an incredibly durable machine.
>Ygg/Monk
One of the best Fist Monks in the game. Having the highest STR means the world with how Fist damage calculation works. But, most importantly, Monks have Ascetic Deeds, at level 10 heals you for 90HP everytime you use a skill, which means that Overheat 9 is a free 40% dmaage buff and Overheat 10 goes from costing 127HP to a measly 37HP for a 50% damage buff.
>Ygg/Bucc
2nd best Swashbuckling user. Look, you can't beat a Shogun/Bucc in terms of Swashbuckling, but you're going Deep City route so this is your next best option if you want a swashbuckler with you.
Data Mining increases crit chance by 10% and makes crits deal 190% damage. So Data Mining, Overheat, Lady Luck and Crit accesories makes them actually hit pretty hard with Swashbuckling.
Also, if you want to summon bots, this is your best way to proc chases while also dealing good damage (Of course, assuming you don't have Shogun unlocked).
One piece of warning though, Overheat activates every time Swashbuckling procs, so leave it at level 6 if you don't have someone to babysit them.

>>537156438
>>537179280
>Meh and Bad Subclassing Options
>Ygg/Princess
I had an Y/P in my party. It works, but I only had her because I wanted a full Yggdroid party. If you want a full Ygg party it definitely works, there's nothing wrong with it, you have a bulky Princess that's very hard to lock down. But if you're not doing that, just get a regular Princess.
>Ygg/Zod
I also had this in my party. This one doesn't work at all. I literally only had her because I wanted someone to summon bots, and for the endgame she was my HP Cannon user.
>Ygg/Arb
Yggs have the highest STR and Overheat. However, Front Mortar is not very sustainable (16 TP with 2 binds) and Double Action is pretty much not viable.
It can still work, but without Charge, Front Mortar really loses a lot of it's appeal.
You could however have a Snipe/Sharpshooter Y/A in a disable focused party and it could work as well.
>Ygg/Ninja, Ygg/Wildling
Yggs do not have the TEC or LUC to try to inflict ailments or binds.
>Ygg/Farmer
lmao
>Ygg/Shogun
Unless you're modding your game or playing a second playthrough you're not having this one in your party, so I put it in the Meh category.
Magatoki works well since you're already going to be exploring mostly at night thanks to Infravision and Daifuhensha makes Yggs stronger and bulkier, and thanks to Infravision they will be able to work as a pseudo dodge tank as well.
They're also a pretty bulky Warrior Might user.
The biggest problem is that Magatoki and Daifuhensha both use different body parts, so TP recovery becomes an issue.
Also, fun fact. Bloody Lance increases the damage of HP Cannon. You're never going to use that unless you're going for that one strategy against the true final boss, but it's funny that the combination of Armoroad's and Deep City's forces can create one of the strongest countermeasures against the Deep Ones.

>>537121254
man I fricking love Untold 1 and 2

>>537179461
>>Ygg/Zod
> This one doesn't work at all.
but that one anon said if you stack tec equipment they're actually good

>>537190040
I am that same anon.
Stacking TEC equipment doesn't work for Ygg/Zod since your TEC will still be shit in comparison to an actual Zod, it works for bots since bots deal 170% TEC damage which is insane for TEC damage calculations.

>>537190630
don't you take zod sub if you're going bots for the elemental damage passives? I guess the theme of the guide is focusing on the subclass's skills which is obviously a bad idea with ygg/zod.

>>537191068
Bots don't take into account the user's passives or buffs
The only skill with bots that takes into account passives is Shoot, and Shoot is trash in a 5-etriams party.

>>537191403
oh, I guess that makes sense since it's a summon. Now that I think about it I believe wildling summons work the same way and only take your base stats and nothing else.
what sub does bot ygg take then? None of them really help your bots do they.

>>537191673
Honestly doesn't matter much because bots take a lot of SP so if you want a Bot Ygg it will pretty much just focus on summoning ots with some side things from the subclass since all three bots at level 10, level 10 Resupply, level 10 Sleep Mode and a single point on Rocket Punch and Rocket Jump already take 56 SP. But if you focus on just one elemental bot you can definitely get any subclass. For example, by the endgame I just focused on Red Bot since I had an Ygg/Monk with Breakfire Fist and an Ygg/Bucc with a fire rapier.
I took Zod in my 5-Ygg party just for the convenience of having easily accesible elemental damage to proc bots.

>>537185789
>nuh uh

>>537177114
FUCK

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

>>537206796
I dislike her laugh.

>>537217942
low luc girl

>>537222645
low luc girls are cute

Ero hero...

Hoplites definitely have big saggy tits under all that armor

>>537228024
no my hoplite has modest, but very perky breasts

>>537232021
>SQ5 9th
It's a really cute image but those words made me feel a chill.

>>537232021
Jenetta mating press

>>537245668
>No pokies
Not my lolimonk

>>537266170
>you can tell it's a 'forest berry' because of the way that it is

>>537228024
>>537228247
Hoplite oppai you say

>>537287413
Damn you anon, now I'm going to waste time on this again.

Are the HD games censored?
>beginners guide
It's older than the remasters.

>>537290452
No.

Take it easy!

>>537282764
why is there a hero tier at the top? its not even the most op class

>>537290452
>>537290994
Is there any notable censorship in these games?
The obvious targets like sexy portraits are intact as far as i'm aware

>>537304112
There's some bad translations every so often but no censorship in any of them. If 4, V, and X got the hd collection treatment, I would assume and hope that none of the portraits are touched.

>>537270981
sex

>>537304112
The HD remake added this new portrait

>>537334012
Needs nopan

>>537334012
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kaishaku.

Hehehehe, necromancers smell bad

>a female brouni reclassed to pugilist will never bind your leg(dick) with her legs as she thunder punches your balls for momentum sp
i forgot where i was going with this because my therian botanist sold me 15% thc weed and holy shit shifting sands in nexus is so boring and they fucking teased a better strata with a cutscene before sands something i shut my ds to type this post and im scared to open it wait am i using my 3ds on 4chan

>>537362272
I hope you enjoyed the tease because Lost Shinjuku itself isn't a dungeon in Nexus. Undersea Grotto also lacks a side dungeon for some reason.

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

Evil Eye is my favourite skill tree in etriams

>>537381287
same

>think about doing a Fafnir solo some time ago but worry that he won't hit the triggers for growing his powers without story mode
>an anon assured me that the triggers activate anyway
>just finished 2nd stratum (killed basilisk before then), still haven't gotten the first of his special force powers
I'm pretty sure classic does not, in fact, have any triggers for Fafnir's special abilities. As easy and fun as it is to solo with Fafnir, not getting this growth really sapped my enthusiasm. Not least of which because it would be extremely cool to get those powers.

100%ed EO3 lads
r8 my team

>>537399090
>That message
I like you, anon.

>>537399090
Tasty titties/10

>>537392630
Suboptimal fencer. This bnnuy should get naked.

>>537399090
Too many nu-portraits. But good job, anon

I'm in the post-game in EO1 and these post-B25F floors are absurd. I'm kind of liking it in a weird way.

CADUCEUS

>>537399090
naisu. what subclasses? whats the synergy?

Well, my SD reader decided to do a funny on my and corrupted a good part of the 3DS folders in it, including save games.
I was in what I think is the last or second to last dungeon in EO4 and well... I really don't feel like struggling with the game again just to reach that point.

What's the most broken team composition to steamroll the game and quickly reach the Forgotten Capital?
In the meantime I'm using those programs that by some miracle are able to retrieve deleted and corrupted files from cards in an attempt to get the save files.

>>537419834
Honestly, if you feel burned out just put the game aside for a bit. You will enjoy it more when you feel like picking it up again after some time. If you're just trying to get through as fast as possible you will likely get frustrated before you reach lvl30 regardless.
If you insist I think the easiest way would just be to grind golden sheep and outlevel everything. Almost any team works in that game.

>>537424127
Eh you're right. While I wait like feeling to pick it up again might as well just play EO V instead, that's one I've never touched.

Post your favorite Etriam conspiracy theories.
>Rockfall and Earthspikes were meant to inflict head/leg bind but they got nerfed to make Elemancer more appealing

>>537424127
Now that you mention it, this may be the perfect chance to focus on EO3 on Switch. While I was playing IV on the 3DS I also bought and started 3 on the Switch and now this is a good excuse to continue it.

Losing IV's save sucks ass but it's not the end of the world.

>>537435817
Both EO3 and EOV are great so you can't go wrong with either. Yeah it sucks you couldn't finish it but when you come back to it at a later time you can try a party with new classes or improve upon your old one from what you learned and it'll be fun again.

>>537361475
Does there happen to exist an edit of the bikini armor hero portrait without the shorts that could be used in a replacer mod?

>>537270981
Consoom

>>537386097
Did you just save edit a class be Fafnir? Yeah that doesn't work. The other anon potentially assumed you'd be importing a powered up Fafnir from story mode into new game plus

>>537419834
It's funny because I also had an EO4 save that I accidentally deleted a long time ago that was at the Forgotten Capital. I eventually went back and did another run, including the post game stratum and all that. Just give it time, when they announce 4HD, that will be a good opportunity to replay 4.

>>537399090
What the fuck nooooooooo you have to grind and be 99R99 to beat the superboss!!!! Cheater!!

I'm trying to make a party in EO3 HD but I'm not sure what skills got buffed/nerfed. Right now I'm thinking:
Bucc/Hoplite/?
Sovereign/?

I want to use guns with the Buccaneer to match the portrait, any ideas what would compliment that?

>>537454598
The skills in 3HD are basically the same. Knighthood got fixed so that it works properly now and Charge/Etheric Charge now are stored until the character uses a move that they can be applied to. A zodiac and/or arbalist are always good choices for reliable damage. It depends on what you're doing with the bucc, you need elemental damage for gun chases. You could also ignore chases and just spam pincushion. Buccs are also very good with limit building when combined with swashbuckling though a shogun/bucc will work better for that.

>>537455871
im going for chases with the bucc. Would Lady Luck and Swashbucking work for that? Also is it worth to go for the Binary Star skills or is it better to go Dark Ether > Singularity?

>>537435359
>Implying Elemancer needed that to be appealing when Clever Strike is already one of the best skills in the game

>>537457315
Singularity, Etheric Charge and the Zodiac's class skill are much better at increasing the Zodiac's damage than investing on their Stars

>>537457315
The binaries will be good for AOE chases during random encounters and dark ether will also help out with TP management. Dark ether, singularity, and ether charge are mandatory for zodi. Having at least 1 point in the volt binary will help a lot for the first stratum boss.

>>537460314
>>537461217
So Zodiacs really only need 1 points in the elements to get rolling. Now to figure out that last slot

>>537462603
arbalist

you'll drop the buccaneer for shogun anyway

>>537462676
Already got Sovereign and Zodiac in the back, I was thinking Gladiator or Monk in the last slot

>>537462603
You should eventually get the stars to 5 but yeah, prioritize singularity and etheric charge first with just a point in each element. Zodiacs will do a ton of damage by combining etheric charge with an elemental limit attack, this will be their main big burst damage.

Another thing to mention about chases is that they use the weapon property so elemental forges will help the damage out. Same thing with princess Arms imbue skills. Chases can't crit though, lady luck will only help their normal attacks.

An elemental arbalist would work well in the last slot as long as you're okay with not having much bind/ailment lockdown.

>>537455871
>Charge/Etheric Charge now are stored until the character uses a move that they can be applied to
Wait so can you stack both?

>>537466161
no. trying to use a second charge skill replaces the first charge

>>537463860
If you really want to do a good chase party then you'll want a shogun/bucc in the last slot once you unlock shogun. Shogun is both the best chaser and chase feeder due to Second Sword combining well with Swashbuckling. Since your bucc would be the chaser, the shogun would focus on procuring chases with normal attacks that can hit like 2-8 times and each provide a chase. You would need to use forges and imbues to make the attacks elemental so that guns can chase them. Of course, the bucc could just sub shogun and use warriors might instead of their own chases which would work better. I've actually done this before; a gun bucc/shogun with WM that's fed by a shogun/bucc.

>>537466673
While that's cool, I don't have Shoguns yet. I'll keep it in mind though and go with Gladiator for the AoE blade skills right now. Also need a name for the bratty Princess

>>537450051
>Did you just save edit a class be Fafnir?
Nope. I started a story mode file, then immediately new game+ classic to have access to lvl 1 Fafnir with none of his special skills. I have no clue how to homebrew anything so save editing was off the table. He just doesn't seem to get the prompts for activating any of his skills in classic.

>>537462676
>you'll drop the buccaneer for shogun anyway
I wouldn't drop nu-Bucc's fat tits for Shogun. I'd make it work between us.

there we go. Temporary guild name cause I'm testing out the font mod. I wish there was a mod for the music...

>>537472839
what the fuck do you mean a mod for the music, it's the same music

I've been thinking about doing an expert playthrough of EO3HD with a double Arb/dark ether build.
This is what I have so far:
https://pastebin.com/TJdxhEiT

Is there anything I should change about this? I am kinda thinking I might have too much healing.

>>537477048
FM Synth is good and all but I don't want to listen to it for hours on end. I found a mod to replace the music anyways

>>537480372
how did you find this thread, let alone this franchise?

>>537477064
With a hoplite/ninja and a zodiac you barely need healing at all.

>>537480372
Replace it with what?

>>537480814
Been here since EO3

>>537483731
The versions with an orchestra ie. Untold/Super Arrange

>>537490662
heggs

EO3 party idea. Ninja + Wildling + Farmer + 2 others.
Idea is that the farmer will help with exploration, but leave for big fights so both Ninja and Farmer can use their summons...but the other 2 party members are beyond me...

>>537492338
Glad and Sov for Regal Radiance nuke fun

>>537492338
You cant use more than one summon at the same time so this is anti-synergy

>>537419834
Nightseeker / Dancer / Medic
Sniper / Runemaster
Build Guard Tango. The party takes a while to get properly rolling but it scales like crazy.
Alternatively swap the Sniper for a Fortress and move the Medic to the back line. It's a less damaging comp, but Dancer/Fortress/Medic/Runemaster in the same party allows them to be incredibly durable and enables a specific cheese for a postgame boss.

>>537399090
nice work champ

RIP Texan etriams

Kaishaku.

Bros I'm curious how you would personally rank the games of those you've played.
Mines is EO3 > EO5 > EO2 > EO1 > EO4 (Only one where I felt bogged down progressing most stratums), haven't played the Untolds yet

>>537522914
EO1 will always have a special place in my heart. Getting rekt by venomous butterflies and orange blob deers. Putting together the small pieces of story and the reveal of lost shinjuku. It was the OG game and story and can't be replicated. Even if it was jank (you didnt notice).
I consider 3/4/5 around the same. They all bring something different and are both good (and bad) in their own way. EO4 is probably the least interesting but the classes are fun and feel good. Don't see why you had trouble progressing there.
EO2 was pretty unimpressive, all the downsides of 1 without the novelty. They fixed the series in EO3 and it was amazing.
Nexus isn't bad but overstayed their welcome, didn't have anything new and made most classes less fun. Didn't play any of the untolds.
EO3 EO5 EO4 EO1 EOX EO2

4 and Nexus both have Imperial and as such are the best by default

>>537522914
V=2U>III>Nexus>U>IV>I>II
In some ways my favorites don't quite have the soul of earlier entries but I really enjoy class complexity that comes with later entries.

>>537527932
I think I just had a skill issue with 4 because it was one of my first etriams; but it was primarily psychological rather than any difficulty because most of the stratums felt very tedious to me, and I wasn't fond of them in an aesthetical sense, so I played on and off.
It does have some of the best class designs in the series though, and oddly 2 felt very rewarding in practice to me (Most likely because my party was haphazardly put together), with my second favorite OST behind 3's.
I essentially agree with everything you said, and I cherish them all still, with 3 being the summit.

Scanty etriams

I made a crudely approaching Ricky for you guys, I hope you enjoy it.

>>537544129
perfection anon

>>537500658
Interesting, I guess the NS is the damage dealer in this team then? Any tips on how to build it?

I understand in IV you usually subclass Fortress into Dancer for the evasion passive.

>>537522914
To each their own but I have no idea how you could put 4 below 1 and 2, especially 1. The first two aren't bad but 1 in particular is easily the weakest entry for me. The series has just improved so much since then with a lot of progress happening across both 3 and 4.

>>537522914
2U>5>3>4>1U>2>1>X
There's just something about Nexus and I don't what it is that just keeps me from actually getting far into the game.

>>537566883
honorary sticc ronin

Even in my backyard
F.O.E.!

>>537567380
You know what to do.

>>537567380
>horns
he means business, don't fuck w/ him

>>537569703
Pugilist should've gotten a suplex skill.

>>537477064
>>537482604

After some tinkering I like this better
https://pastebin.com/RFdUvK3Y

sexo

>>537522914
V>3>Nexus>2>1
never did get around to 4

>>537567380
I could beat him, also the first stratum boss for 6 should be a great stag.

>>537591510
fatty

>>537567006
Damn a lot of people rate 2U really highly it seems, I have to check it out myself, what makes it so good?

>>537597325
Party building is incredibly fun and autistic in 2U thanks to having the best class roster, cooking and grimoires.
Food and grimoires can make your party's strong points stronger or cover your weak points.
And the classes are all insanely good at their job while all having really good synergy potential with other classes.

>>537597325
When it comes to partybuilding and boss fights it's a strong contender for the best in the series. I also really love the visuals of the strata and the music from the original version of 2 which are things 2U inherits due to being a remake though it's more a full blown reimagining using the same setting and general plot. Even story mode is worth playing this time because the cast is decently likeable, has a relatively unorthodox party composition, and Fafnir is a really fun class once it gets going. The cafe stuff is enjoyable and certain foods can open up even more strategies. Wouldn't call it my favorite game but it is close.

That aside, i'm not a fan of the dungeon layouts compared to the original 2. Vanilla 2 had a lot of funky but memorable labyrinthian layouts and some floors were designed to be done in one go to test the player. That's largely lost in 2U in favor of (admittedly nicely-designed) FOE puzzle rooms that start of simple but build on each other as the floor/stratum goes on. They're good in a vacuum but it can be tiring going through so many of them.

sticc

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

I need a buccaneer wife NOW

>>537522914
>EO3 > EO5 > EO2 > EO1 > EO4
Mine is EXACTLY the same as yours, holy based
Untolds are basically side grades for me but lose out cause they're obviously and inherently derivative.

>>537620556
>UN, TOLD, H, D
>WACTH OUT FOR THE F.O.E

>>537621007
>wacth
Shameful display

>>537620556
Holy based... I'm very surprised someone has an identical list, not because of EO4 being the least favorite, since I think it's divisive, but usually EO2 is at the way bottom

>>537522914
3 > 2 > 5 > 2U > Nexus > 4 > 1U > 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMD
>>537624454
People just keep exaggerating on its flaws... which are admittedly big flaws... but getting over those, the game content is actually pretty damn solid.

>>537622241
Goddamnit.

>>537522914
5 > 3 > 1HD > 2HD > 4 > 2 > 1

The systems upgrade from the remaster really helps 1 and 2 shine.

>>537625810
I played EMD and eventually decided it wasn't so bad.
And then it became that bad.
It's so close to being a good roguelike.

>>537625810
I don't put 2 low because I think it's bad, but because I don't think what it has is as interesting to revisit. I love the first four stratums, but the only game with worse build variety is 1 (until the remaster made resting and grinding up backups more tenable, then 1 got the edge). It doesn't have the simple elegance of 1 or the mechanics for replay value of 3 or 5. It's in the same kind of spot as 4, but that one took some wild swings that give it more novelty.

2's a great blobber but I gotta agree with people who say 2U is a massive improvement: it gives the game its unique niche while giving the content more opportunity to shine and be enjoyed on replay.

>>537629097
Commit kaidoku to atone

>>537604112
Yeah the FOE room> short cut > FOE room > shortcut design of 2U is definitely a low point, especially in the second stratum where it feels like large chunks are carved out for secret areas. The party building and overall combat feels are so good that it makes up for it though imo.

I'm suprised most people are putting 2 over 1. Maybe it's just me but I couldn't finish 2 when I played it recently, just beat F25 and cashed out. Whereas I did actually go through the 6th stratum of 1 even if I didn't exactly beat primevial clean (Piknic really trivializes everything doesn't it?). Maybe it's just the poor balance making me feel like my team can't progress any further in 2 and I'd have to completely rebuild and regrind.

>>537645803
2 is fun if you use all the broken shit and outright torturous otherwise.

2 is fun if you use 5 Beasts
You put zero thoughts on fights and just appreciate the incredible amount of soul every single stratum has

>>537650671
piss castle

>decides to proc Renew 3 times in a row for Final Decree chaining
Such a disgusting support. Single-handedly saved a bricked Abyssal Princess run.

>>537522914
I remember V being somewhat divisive when it first dropped (9 years...). I'm glad to see it high 'cause I love it as much as III.

>>537653587
the pinks and greens evoke proper citrus, thobeit. lemonade castle.
and stay hydrated, your piss isn't supposed to be that yellow.

Kaishaku.

>>537657994
I bet that hand is slimy with strange fluids

Next Stage will be real in 2 weeks

BREAKING NEWS the release date has been pushed up from two weeks to just 5 minutes! Get ready!

I could take 6 hexers

>>537696375
In a fight right?

>>537696375
>All six engulf your body and vibrate until you overheat and die
Outskilled.

>>537705942
>All six engulf your body and vibrate until you overheat and die
haha oh no

>>537696375
Hex sex

>>537718379
Zod sexo

>>537657994
>I remember V being somewhat divisive when it first dropped (9 years...). I'm glad to see it high 'cause I love it as much as III.
Some of the reasons why i love V so much is because it's aesthetically different from the rest of the series. One of IV's biggest mistakes was trying to be too similar to the first (and second game by extension) aesthetically for the sake of a new audience. The exotic look and feel of 3 and 5's locales and classes is one of the reasons why i keep coming back to them more than the others. Also a big reason why the town ship from Nexus is cool to me and i'd love to see it in a game that didn't reuse old strata.

>>537723968
Top right sexo

>>537723968
rhymes with heggs

>>537723968
I now want to make a guild of nothing but old men.

Sex with Gunner

>>537723968
Select your fighter

>>537728520
Whichever one is the most unga bunga, probably Highlander I guess?

>>537724548
Yeah, I find those two to be the most fun with experimenting synergies. Even little things like dedicated pet slots were a much-needed shakeup from the norm.
>5's locales
Fetid Necropolis is still one of the best stratums they've done in a long time.

Alright bros. Should I play EO1 or EO3? I've never fucked with these but they look reminiscent of Wizardry, and I finished the original Wizardry.

>>537737272
EO1 if you can handle some jank and slightly less options for party building
EO3 for more polish and more ability to take whatever classes you want (within reason)
I'd suggest EO3 myself

>>537737272
I'd go with 3 though 1 is definitely an experience for all sorts of reasons including one i really don't want to spoil.

>>537733720
Jagged Reach, Fetid Necropolis, Untamed Garden, and Empyreal Bridge are all-timers for me in terms of music, visuals, and theming. The layouts are great too and i hope the devs and Koshiro can carry that momentum forward for the next game.

>>537737272
If you finished the original wizardry you can probably deal with the jank of eo1. Nothing in the old "janky" EO games is as bad as the avarage wizardry 1-4 floor. Except maybe EO1's F27. All that lives shall succumb indeed.
3 is when the series really got off the ground, most of the much loved elements of the series started in 3. But that doesn't mean 1 and 2 are bad, if anything they're closer to the old DRPGs they were based on, for better and for worse.

>>537728989
not even close

>>537748671
unga bunga sexo

>>537748671
One of them has a spear there, and there's also that one etriam that posts his Highlander that uses the young bunny Rover as the portrait, so I'm going to say it still counts.

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

/meta here/
I heard you guys were talking shit about my general

>>537768987
She'd be the ghoul not the summoner.

>EO3
I cleaned B6F of FOEs but on the other side, my poor Zodiac is out of sync with everyone. FUCK SEA WANDERERS AND THEIR CURSE INFLICTING SKILLS!!! *sigh*

Kaishaku.

Started playing EOV and they just told me about alter classing. When would there be a good time to even do that?

>>537802430
as soon as possible when you need it?
for example reclass therian to impact brawler for more dps, or celestial to graced poisoner for more luc.

>>537798338
Disgusting fish

>>537803741
You'll change your tune after she gets liberated.

sticc

>>537823349
The most a sticc will ever move.

>>537824984
Sticcs defining characteristic is how strong, healthy, and active they are.

>>537834693
majestic, dignified...

Does Gladiator's Sword Mastery not affect regular sword damage in EO3? I just completed the quest where you get materials in the 4th stratum to create a weapon of your choice and picked katana over sword since the text of the Sword Mastery skill says "Prerequisite for katana skills that raises katana damage dealt," only to realize that my gladiator can't actually equip katana? Is that an error in the translation, or do they expect me to use that skill with a subclass to get the full benefit?

>>537836325
What?
No, Sword Mastery only affects damage with swords.
Can you take a screenshot of you game?

>>537836325
Sword Mastery works for swords only and Katana Mastery for katana. I think the original 3 had a translation error but I thought they fixed it in the HD collection.

>>537851084
Mediko should have pulled her skirt down

>>537851595
Mediko knows that would increase the games rating so she can't do that

Kaishaku.

>>537737272
Thanks for the answers bros but to refine the question a little, I'm looking at Steam so these are the HD versions of 1, 2, and 3. I don't have a 3DS. Does automapping kill the experience?

>>537860950
It doesn't, but you lose out on the wonders of drawing the map yourself and getting into arguments over how doors should be marked. Drawing the map on the touch screen with the stylus is nice, it's like charting it out on graph paper, except less annoying to make corrections on.

>>537842732
>>537844719
Must be a translation error then, playing on 3ds.
I figured it was probably something like that, but my gladiator has been doing pretty weak damage recently and I wondered if me misunderstanding that skill and using a sword instead of a katana could be related. Then again, I also haven't bought any new gear since the 2nd stratum and I just got my ass handed to me by the 4th stratum boss, which is probably also related...

>>537863515
Yeah that seems like something I'd enjoy (I'm oldfag enough to remember playing Wizardry with graph paper) but holy Christ 3DS carts are expensive these days, and I'm living in Vietnam so probably not a very practical option.

>>537860950
I wouldn't say so, it just streamlines it a bit by marking the floor tiles you've walked on and walls you've touched at maximum. And you can toggle it off or to a lower level if you want to draw everything manually.
There's a conversation to be had about how it's not quite the same drawing with a controller, but if you're on PC, you can just use a mouse (which itself is not like using a stylus, but...).

>>537865795
What's the correct difficulty for EO3? I hate difficulty settings and prefer when there is only the default.

>>537864237
>>537860950
ive been drawing maps on pc and its fine. mouse works well for these kind of tasks.
drawing the map is small busywork to engage your brain a little while you play. it sounds more convenient, but the exploration is more boring without it. it also massively impacts the pace of the game. compare it to a coloring book, its relaxing.

>>537866536
expert or whatever is the highest one is the intended difficulty. the other ones are there to make the game more accessible for casuals/children.

>>537866828
>>537866972
They said not to use offensive words in my guild name but it's a single player game. I'm now tempted to call my guild Niggers even though I'm unironically not racist.

>>537867097
Edginess aside though, is there a canon guild name?

>>537867097
HD has multiplayer and for DS its for street pass/guild card sharing. for street pass it likely doesnt matter, no idea if you can get banned for it on steam version. if you dont use these nobody will see it and you can write whatever. you cant change your guild name tough so you better be prepared to live with it.

>>537867305
no, part of the games point is that you make your own guild and adventurers and make your own story around them.

>>537867493
I was also going to post that image at him lmfao.

>>537867097
you can share your guild card with people to show off. Don't want any no no words to show up when you're doing that do you?

How do I get back to my controller after marking the map? Or should I not be using one?

>one of the first enemies is a Deadly Durian
Turbo based. I like it already.

>>537869613
Usually things swap pretty well if you just start doing inputs with it again.

What does the day/night cycle do?

I hate battle cursor memory with a purple-dicked passion and it doesn't look like I can turn it off in the settings like in SMT or Persona.

>>537875079
depends on the game but usually different monsters, FOEs might be more or less aggressive

We should have more skills like Compression and Point Blank

Damn, just had an encounter with 6 Treerats. I didn't think you could naturally get that many enemies at the start of a battle.

>>537875079
Affects spawns; some appear during the day and some at night. A few classes have abilities that are better at night or during the day. A few FOEs are affected, changing whether/where some move.

>>537875962
>Affects spawns
they generally forget about this after the first stratum unfortunately

>>537879160
>Bird
Does he know?

So my starting EO3 party is gladiator, hoplite, sovereign, monk, zodiac. Is that good?

>>537879742
Playing on hard btw because I'm a hard nigga.

>>537879742
Its pretty defensive, with only the glad and zodiac putting out damage. Its fine and you can clear the game with it, just expect to be in the long haul for some bosses

>>537880793
why is everyone so aggro in this game. party is fine. having a sov solo heal at the start isnt the best experience, esp if youre new to the game. fist monk isnt even bad at the first few stratums either.

>>537879160
>>537879679
Danke Doctor

>>537880793
>>537883852
Do I need a "rogue" type?

>>537889673
just be yourself

>>537879742
Swapping Sov with Arbalist you can see big numbers on screen.

>>537894565
>number must go up

>>537889673
>Do I need a "rogue" type?
nah

>>537894565
>>537896218
>not wanting 45% princess attack buff
ngmi

>>537896337
>missing out on stealing rare and unique loot from FOEs
fubar

>>537897579
I started with the defensive buff on the princess, not attack. Did I fuck up?
I also like the little party heal at the end of the round when she's at full HP but the enemies almost seem smart enough not to let her stay at full health.

>>537899220
no, you will end up with both either way. just dont lvl up guard more and move over to attack order so she can contribute to clearing random fights faster.
>I also like the little party heal at the end of the round when she's at full HP
its nice just dont rely on it. your frontline will take most hits, but sov has relatively high hp for a backline class which increases her agro a bit.

>>537899220
>Did I fuck up?
dont overthink it, its hard to absolutely fuck a build unless you're being retarded

>>537902293
Don't challenge me like that bro.

Got my ass wiped by that lizard boss at the beginning of F2

>>537905192
It's not something you're supposed to fight the first time you see it you know

>>537905192
Please post your guild card

Trying to buy EO3 on steam cause I noticed it's on sale for about 30 more minutes, and it's shitting the bed cause now of all times the servers are being overloaded, probably by people trying to buy Silksong.
At this rate I'm just gonna be fucked out of the sale this time. I hope Silksong sucks!

>>537909979
Nvm that's what Steam keys are for.

etriam but G Gundam

Do you guys all play the HD games on hard?

>>537924136
Yes, expert is the intended difficulty.

https://youtu.be/0WrpH072oJ8
>Level 10 Conflict Word

>>537924136
Yeah, "Expert" in the remasters was the only difficulty in the originals.

The monko rises to a fresh new day.

>>537937359
It's 10am and they already left for the labyrinth 3 hours ago without her.

>>537937961
>they all just left without their healer
Not her problem.

>>537522914
EO3, EO4 and EO2U are my favorites, they're the only ones I played from start to finish at least three times.
But I think all of them are great and there's no right or wrong answer. Just because a game has more options or more jank doesn't mean much when all of them are fun.

>>537917635
Every game is already a competition between Guilds if you think about it.

>Atlus adjusted game balance in Origins Collection
>The single most buffed class was EO1 Medic.
...huh?

>>537924136
I swap to Picnic when I need to grind because it saves time.

>>537970103
Doesn't that void the expert level achievements?

>>537992941
no, the game only checks the moment you beat the 6th stratum boss. And you can even beat the boss on picnic, make equipment from the item drop, then fight it again on expert and that still counts.

>>537970103
>needing to grind in the first place
uh oh

>>537996191
>"Yeah, I naturally get a leveled Ronin in a normal EO1 play."
>"Gather parties? No such thing."
>"It's crazy, I rest my Alchemist to try a new build, and they DON'T get ridiculously fucked by the level penalty."
>"The extra slots in the guild menu are meant to be empty."

You have to avoid one of two things playing DS EO: Grind, or several game mechanics.

>>537994536
Oh.. Wish I knew that earlier

Kaishaku.

>>537992941
>>538000003
>letting an achievement have that much power over you

>>538025462
Already got used to using scylla trick on DS so it wasn't that big of a deal you filthy picnic peasant.

>>538030284
ded!

>>538048617
me on the left

fang among us

>>538048617
remove fang

I prefer alchemist

>>538055364
looking good champ

doing my laps to b6f to stock up on green algae so amrita will be back in stock !

I wonder how they would have handled the route split in EO3U's story mode? If I remember right, weren't some characters from both the first two game's parties supposed to show up? It'd have been sick if they each took a different side of the conflict and you had to fight whichever ones you went against. Of course they'd have all gotten jolly with each other on the 3rd route, but at least they could milk the conflict more in the two fun routes.
Then again, given how the first two games treated the story parties more kindly, letting them save people who couldn't be saved in classic, they might've just taken the easy way and had them automatically make the "right" choice...but we'll never know, haha!

Fuck it, going Fist/Heal monk hybrid

>>538110390
Every time I use Breakfire Fist, that one bit of Jonathan Joestar's theme plays in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrw3NYx2YQ0&t=220s

>>538095554
piss

Portable onahole

Sometimes when I lay in bed trying to fall asleep, I remember the great times I had with my beloved: Nectall II

I hope Next Stage brings back subclasses like in 3 and bring back something similar to Yggdroids

>>538129807
Subclasses but some skill branches of the class can't be accessed

etriam but Gridman

APOLLO SHOT

Rest well

>>538129807
Subclasses and second name. The main class gets to have an extended skill tree, and the subclass only has the basic skills.

Second names were a cool idea but they should've worked like 4's level gates where you unlock a second name at level 20 and a third name at 40 though I guess these would just be promotion trees in practice.

>>538169305
Slut Ojou-sama

Hey question, I'm playing Etrian 3 for the first time, currently on the 7th floor. As far as I know this game has multiple story routes. Around which floor does the route split happen?

>>538179837
It'll be very apparent because it is a mission

>>538180385
Aight, thanks.

>>538144123
Where are her clothes

>>538185025
Etriams rarely ever need clothes.

>>538185025
to draw spirits from the ether you must have your skin exposed as much as possible

>>538232268
The Armoroad Senatus owes me a Wildling wife.

>>538235998
Yeah, I know, it's been far too long since the last piece of etriam news.

Holy shit, Next Stage took so long it became EO7 instead of 6.

>>538244186
Nexus is 6 really if you think about it so checks out.

>>538244186
>three games with a "7"
Is it time?

>>538244186
This time for sure.

>>538244186
Etrian Odyssey 7 Years We Last Had News
Trust the plan.

In EO3, sword or club for gladiator? Rapier or gun for berserker?

>>538261307
>berserker
... Buccaneer. Retard moment.

>>538261307
>sword or club for gladiator?
sword is a lot less work for a good return, the 9 hit club attack has low acc so you want a leg bind to make it work

>>538261307
Sword is AoE and club is more unga-bunga, which makes it much more fun. I prefer gun to put my bucc at the back, can't really go wrong with either

>>538263712
ohohohoho sexo

>>538263712
fort sexo

>>538244186
7th Dragon HD Remaster

>>538280076
EO3 is no joke bros. I'm having a hard time with money on the second floor. Shit's good though.

>>538285871
Going back to the sea map every so often to sell fish can help a bit with money early on.

>>538261670
>the 9 hit club attack has low acc so you want a leg bind to make it work
That's assuming you don't get a low roll on the number of hits. It's 2-9 hits.

>>538291542
I haven't been very reliably making money at that yet, but I see the potential. I just made a pretty fat double farmer farming run though.

>>538301520
If you wait a while, there's usually a group of fish that will spawn near Armoroad that you can quickly pick up for a profit. It's not huge money but just a bit extra that you can pickup if you check back sometimes.

up

>>538321201
Inferno!

>>538285871
Started an EO3 run myself, and believe me, those money issues don't last long. As soon as your farmers can survive chain-grabbing materials it's over (Even on floor 1, the palm trunks go for 100 each!)

>>538321201
MEDIKO PANTSU

>>538321201
bird belly

Kaishaku.

>>538280076
>7th Dragon 2020 + 2020-ii ports with the DIVA Mode OST untouched
Fuck. Take my wallet.

>>538280076
7th Dragon IV Code: SND (formerly CHK)

>>538348402
>>538349627
I just want the first one with Mota art, I never even played any of the other ones. Just update the game with some QoL, improvements, and maybe even new content.

>>538350568
That's fair since the 1st game is still the best.

sex with