Thread 536982424

Feet First into Hell edition

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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, Xbox Series X/S, PS5 and Playstation 5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png

>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE&pp=ygUKaGVsbGRpdmVycw%3D%3D

>LATEST PATCH
Aug 5 1.003.202 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516342955916658905

40k orbital drop shock troopers when?

I want an eruptor that fires heavy pen solid shot and uses rounds reload.

ewww
space marines AND its the furry flavor
ewwwwwwwwwwwww

d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242137262989/76561198066017633

>40k collab
>Monkey's Paw curls
>Gray Knights' baby carrier mech

>>536982608
3/4

>>536982608
full

Ooops, I came in the larvae pod...

>>536982751
>a mod that makes it uglier
Modders might really all be troons.

>>536983016
The right were the original proportions, at least closer to them. Unlike the ODST helmet, which got really slimmed down awkwardly, the Recon helmet's OG size is a bit unwieldy.

Here's your teammate, bro

>Cave diving
>Everything squeezed together in a cramped space
LET ME GO, DEMOCRACY OFFICER, I MUST TAKE ZE AIRBURST LAUNCHER

Where's the diversity sweden... This is NOT okay! Do better...

sterilizerGODS.... soon

>>536983125
We go Arc Dog + Arc Grenade + Blitzer here

>>536983226
You're getting snipped soon?

>>536983226
>Sterilizer
>Actually makes things dirtier
??????????????????

>>536983307
Sometimes me and the boys run all arc armor and honestly it's pretty strong.

>>536983195
>game has SOVL
>team is all White.
Not surprising.

>>536983448
It's named after its inventor, Giordano Sterilli.

the daily order should have reset by now correct? did not get it..

>>536982579
I want an eruptor with either: a proper pump action, a proper bolt or semi-auto operation. The charging handle fucking animation on the eruptor is awful.

>>536983104
I wasn't looking at her gear.

>>536983307
>No arc thrower
Just say you're a poser, faker...

>>536983104
I wish I was back on the Marathon opening and closing doors, not being lugged around by this morbidly obese caricature of someone's sexual fantasies in a casual video game for reddit dads.

lo..bby...

>>536984002
Why does the halo armour have that weird piece of body armour?
Looks like a kids idea of sci fi armour.

>>536984098
host lobby yourself

>decide to dive d8 pred bugs to help the newbies out
>they copy my supply pack+grenade launcher build after watching me save the day
Cute.

Reposting the teamreload trick:
Reload your primary while teamreloading. It looks as if you're disengaged, but the teamreloading works as long as you stay close to the gunner. Now you can shoot your primary while teamreloading. The connection is also now proximity-based so it wont break by 1cm height difference, only from moving too far.

>>536984098
Don't worry, Anon will host the lobby within the next half-hour.

>>536984002
Durandal, plz.

>>536984417
Mein super-führer...
Anon...

ROCK AND STONE

>>536984417
The burger hours are over, Anon went to sleep...

>>536984715
The superstore emote will be a DRG-esque salute like
>Freedom!
You'll see...

>tranny park only got 10% liberation progress done over the course of like 12 hours
Whats going on

>>536984858
percentage of online population is what matters instead of how many people we throw at it, it wouldn't matter if we threw a million there if it's only like 20% of the active players since it's all throttled bullshit

>the bug MO is now the only one projected to fail
Will Joel save the bugniggers again?

>>536985005
So what you need 50% of the active playerbase to take over a planet?
Somewhere it would make sense, but not when you got 3 fronts with god knows how many invasions happening at once.

sovl

what percentage of the player base that stays on squid after the kill order? i bet on ~5%

>>536980031
if I'm gonna indulge a team reload weapon it can't be AT. Gotta be the Metacannon/AutoGOAT. Pair with EAT for extreme heavy, medium, and chaff clearing power in equal measure.

>>536985410
*im going to sleep

MG 105s FOR EVERYONE!

effective range of our weaponry is actually outrageous once you're off the obtrusive vanilla crosshairs and archaic PS3 tier resolution. when will we get real sniper enemies?

>>536985126
more or less, for reference this graph here charts population and the player impact number over the last day; note how about eight hours ago with over four times the players online, the impact curve dropped to under a third what it is right now

It's stalwarting time
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242140235996/76561198070364341

>>536985681
ENTER

>>536985864
stage hazard, that's like calling the cactus plant an anti vehicle mine
that aside squids need to lose the ablative armor gimmick and become more like bots+bugs before anyone can take them seriously

>Expendable Anti-Tank 700
>It's not anti-tank

>>536985681
It's actually kind of funny how the military and physics simulation autism leads to a core game engine design that could do a lot of cool stuff, but the focus on being an objective-driven horde shooter keeps it from really achieving that, never mind the horrific performance problems plaguing the game for those designs being super unoptimized.

I heard there was a holt action rifle in this game, how do I get it?

>>536985984
>squids need to lose the one unique thing to them
lol stay malding
no wonder this general gets upset over literally anything that poses a slight challenge

so when do we get the REAL crossover everyone is waiting for? 40k would be so tight in this

>>536986035
This actually kind of pisses me off desu. Should be called the Expendable Napalm Launcher or something.

>>536986160
I really hope this isn't what you do for fun.

>>536985845
2/4

>>536986160
uniqueness by itself is worthless

>>536982608
3/4 for last mission in the op

>>536986178
lasrifles and chainswords would go hard

>>536982608
3/4

>>536986489
>sickle except it has finite ammo
>sabre reskin, no mechanical difference
THAT WILL BE 1500 SC, BABY
YOU WANT SOME CORPSE-STARCH WITH THAT?

Making a dissident faction would give Arrowhead a second shot to go right where squids went wrong. Human enemy factions have only ever improved sci-fi settings.

>>536986606
umm saar actually mediocre and functionally superfluous weapons are fun, based, and not harmful to the game's overall quality in any way
delete your post right now or I will put you on the aimlet shitter list over at the 'cord bastard benchod

>>536986707
The SEAF are retarded as hell and the enemies basically have the strat of "stand back and shoot" or "rush the player head-on". I don't think having a faction of humans to blow apart would necessarily improve things unless the AI got a big overhaul and they figured out a way to make bullet weapons interesting to fight against considering how near-instantly they kill on friendly fire.

>>536986707
>dissident faction
>its just bots 0.5

Reminder.
It is still - Brown Hour.
ETA of - Brown Hour - to be over, is - Never

gee I sure hope the October warbond will have
>an AR
>a throwable
>an armor passive that's a combination of ones we already have
>some form of gimmick weapon that will have worse accuracy and range than all alternatives

There's no real sale for HD2 right now, is there? And do you get a decent amount of time to complete the Halo pass thing once you've obtained it?

>>536987207
Players already experiencing the new underground content i see.

>>536987208
If it's a Warbond, it's permanent. All you have to do is grind up the medals after purchasing one to unlock everything bit by bit.

>>536987208
No...its not on sale.
Yes...you can always spend medals on shoddy items in a nostalgia-bait collab.

>>536987208
Sales are rare on account of a tone deaf retardationmaxxing publisher. There's no time limit on warbonds.

>>536986707
where?

I asked this last thread, but would you take a SEAF-themed Warbond? And what do you think would fit in it?

>>536986707
Humans are boring opponents, that's why zombies are so lame.

>>536987404
no
nothing, we're above the SEAF, everything they get, we have but better (painted black and yellow)

>>536987505
This.

>>536987265
>>536987315
>>536987319
Alrighty, cool. Thanks gys.

>>536987505
Sorry anon, but I prefer their colors. I feel like a honey bee wannabe.

>>536987404
I wouldn't take anything. I want this game to be EOS, and I will shitpost here until it is.

>>536987505
>painted black and yellow
Where the FUCK is my Helldiver colour scheme for armour sets Arrowhead you artistically challenged SWIGGERS

>>536987664
mods are that way, sire, including SEAF-chan coomer variations. probably.
unless...PC players getting access to playstation yogurt armor.

>>536987404
>Pelican call in that drops in SEAFies
>Booster that buffs SEAFies and Citizens
>Armor that makes you look like a SEAF Commander
>A bunch of SEAF inspired Voicepacks
Roll it out alongside an ally Ai patch and it would probably sell pretty well.

>all the progress will be gone when terrek is taken
>supply line will be cut off when terrek is taken
Can't wait to see retards not realizing they will not be able to dive in Bore Rock anymore

>Bore Rock liberated in 27 hours
>Terrek lost in 6 hours
Thanks for the advice, devs.

>>536988079
>Joel singlehandedly giving all these xbox noobs bad first impressions of the game.
He's such a retard, god damn.

>>536985681
What mods or setup to remove the shitty resolution and crosshairs? I'm tired of vaseline on my screen

>>536987680
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/4580
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5504
Here.
>>536987664
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/684
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/403
Here.

I hope you're satisfied, you spoiled brats.

>>536988153
Not expecting much from the worst swede GM.

>>536988079
I don't know what I'm looking at.

>>536988652
>winning estimation is 25 hours on bore rock
>terrek will be taken in 5 hours which means no more supply line to bore rock

>>536988652
dont worry, the devs dont know either.

>>536988652
MOschizo didn't take his meds, you're not supposed to understand what he's talking about and if you do you should visit a doctor.

>>536988052
>*bugs out hold emote and runs around with fist up*

>>536988853
>>536988858
>>536988876
I see.

>>536988876
No one is talking about the MOs tho... it looks like you're the only schizo here.

>tyranny park 2
>opened August 19th, 2185
>closed August 28th, 2185

Super Earth High Command could seriously provide a tutorial on how the Galactic War works, including its damn stats.

What does the resistance level mean? It doesn't mean that more enemies spawn, thats for sure.
What does invasion level mean? That's a damn high number.
Why do we have supply lines, if we can instantly warp to any planet in the galaxy with our FTL drives?

>>536989323
but enough about concord, eh?

>>536989306
MO and galactic war are the same thing pushed by the same schizos.

>imagine thinking we're getting hive planets next week
>imagine not thinking Joel is going to make us clean up this fucking mess of the galactic map in a big filler MO first

>>536989730
I don't even give a fuck. I just want a patch that fixes all these god damn gameplay and audio bugs at this point.

>>536989730
Or i just play bots until we get new bugs and caves.

>>536989581
>its already been a year
And yet I still dream of my late wife Bazz

dont let any of this shit distract you from the fact that swiggers got away with giving us a 2 week long MO that added absolutely nothing to the game and served no other purpose than to reset the GW to give us more filler MOs

Remember that platoon system everyone was going nuts about? HD2 should adopt it as a battlefield-style squad system where everyone is randomly assigned to one of several squads and attacking / defending the planet the majority of your squad is on gives a bonus to liberation rate. And from the DSS you can pay a fee to change to a different squad. You can hire me btw

>we will get the apc!
>we will get the seaf stratagem!
>we will get the nuke!
>we will get t6 upgrades!

>>536989323
Genuinely what was the point?

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242144372469/76561198071931425
D10 Get in losers we're going helldiving, also democracy decides

>>536990128
Just gotta wait until the game awards again, anon

GoW feels right for a future crossover warbond.

No more crossover slop

Thank you glowing arrow man

>>536990502
Not realistic. Pray for nothing that astheticlly kills the vibes, that is really all that can be done on that front.

>>536990112
I genuinly don't keep track of the MOs. But i guess it's been a while since i got a pop up on my mission table. I guess long MOs are preferable over short ones in that case.

>>536990450
I want the M41 pulse rifle with its' unique firing sound real bad.

>>536990563
How long did that take?

>>536990272
Got bored and dived anyway

>>536990563
Need another chink anon with the supply drops. I missed the last lobby, and just regular farming with arrows is so anemic.

>>536990502
But I want to play as Snoop Dog weilding a unicorn support weapon that shoots rainbows out of its ass. Who are YOU to untrude on MY fun?

>>536990668
around 5 hours on Grand Errant with full group

>join lobby of newbies in the lvl 10-15 range to help out xbots
>get kicked
>try it again with a different lobby
>get kicked
Fuck you too then, guess I'll just play with my own kind

>>536990450
Nah, it's too over the top. Aliens would be literally perfect though.
>pulse rifle (complete with underbarrel pump-action tube-fed grenade launcher) primary
>smartgun support weapon
>deployable backpack sentry

>>536988079
this happens when the game is played mostly by normalfags that cant think strategically

>>536990970
>want to enjoy the new game with the vros
>some tryhard max level chud tries to impress us
>laugh at him and kick him out so you can enjoy it at your own pace
I'd do the same desu

no more crossover slop in my really serious game universe that is designed to be a slapstick comedy parody of military sci fi

>>536991058
Close the lobby then, retard

chuddies are really serious about a game universe that has "Tyranny Park" low IQ satire

>haha!! TAKE THAT HELLCHUDS!!!
Why are they like this ? What compels someone to write like that ?

>>536991040
For reference, the same thing solo would get you around 3500. I know because I did that last week.

>>536991135
>I-Is that n-non serious content??? In m-my deep and serious "funny moments TikTok comp" swedish g-gamerino???

>>536991346
mental illness and being in an echo chamber with other people with the same mental illness

>>536991565
floydo-sama....

>>536990450
it would work

i just want an actual minigun but AH hates fun....

>>536990272
failed

>>536990937
With the other 3 also using the arrow mod?

Another victory for the right side of history

>>536991565
I just bought the SC for every warbond from Servants of Freedom to Control Group because I couldn't be assed to do the farming. But after I got the warp pack I figured I'd give it a go again. It also game me a lot of time to practice my FRV driving skills.

>>536991927
It is literally impossible to use a minigun irl, moreso hundreds of years in the future.
Warp packs are far more reasonable as a tool.

another defeat for the wrong side of history

>be emeria
>be a maximum security mega city
>still gets fucked under 24 hours like any other normal planets

>>536989730
The update is literally out on the 2nd you illiterate retard

>>536992112
ok explain ol painless then? fucking retard

Tyranny Park could have been a cool bugkilling sandbox to test weapons and stuff, or at the very least have been a neat opportunity to have a new environment to defend or reclaim. They blew their load way too fucking early and it feels utterly retarded.

>>536992492
That was sarcasm. The warp pack comment should have given it away

>>536992112
B-but muh realism!!!

>>536991984
Nice try swede

>>536992554
Tyranny Park II and III soon, don't worry.

Why did we just lose Seyshel Beach? I thought we were kicking their assses there.

>>536992208
You will get an update, but you also gotta suffer through a planet liberation campaign to get back to the gloom, retard

>>536991927

>>536992112 is nofun faaag, ofc nothing physically preventing a game character from using a minigun the trouble for doing it in helldivers though is that there isn’t much in the way of use for it. There are already three stratagem machine guns. What would a minigun do that the HMG isn’t already doing?

>>536992112

Its impossible for a single human to use a BOFORS cannon but theres one in the game

Have we won or defended a single thing as part of this major order?

>>536993107
I'm the nofun faaag.
It would have 1 huge mag that would let crouch and hold down lmb on an bugbreach, and have lots and lots of fun.

>>536992112
Helldivers are genetically engineered goliaths that can run for minutes in full equipment without need for a break.

>>536993610
>>536993259
How do you people miss the warp pack sarcasm?
Are you baiting me?

>>536992596
It did not

>>536993610
I can't run that long...
t. heavy armor user

lobby doko

>>536993259
the autocannon is only 20mm

>>536993762
We have working warp packs irl?

>>536993802
This is closer to the AMR though no?

>>536993860
AMR is .50 BMG

>>536993107
>What would a minigun do that the HMG isn’t already doing?
1000 bullets without reloading. Duuuh.

>>536984327
Grenade launcher seems like a suicide machine versus the pedo bugs
>Rang gang of stalkers converge on your position
>They are 0.1m too close
Die

>>536993916
no it's not
it's 12.5x100

>>536993860
>We have working warp packs irl?
Well if we did how do you know they won't be backpack sized?
You think that's a joke but think of giant ass computers we used to used compared to modern day cell phones. Meanwhile guns have stayed more or less the same size.

>>536992915
When the Mega City update came out we had access to Mega City missions right away, retard-kun

>>536993989
The point was that the devs said miniguns are "unfeasible" in the "realism" game that has matter displacement devices.
We know miniguns were in fact used irl and the matter displacement is fucking magic to us at the moment. But the devs added the second to the game first.
Or idk.

>>536994273
It's ok, I get the sentiment and agree with it.

I stopped playing around the Battle of Super Earth when they were adding so many bugs with every patch that the game was borderline unplayable. Did they unfuck it or is it still that way?

>>536993610
They're not genetically engineered, they're roided the fuck up.

>>536994424
Roided on DEMOCRACY! FREEDOM! and LIBERTY! YEAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

>>536985492
>Stupid fat titcow with TATTOOS, AKA grafitti'd like a public bathroom because she's a whore that brings to mind back alleys and abandoned (eggless) urban ruins
>Is used goods that passes through numerous metafaggot hands daily
Versus
>Delectably delicious flat chests on sleek, youthful, fertile bodies, which evoke the concepts of fertile, virgin soil to plow and seed
>Is enjoyed only by enlightened connoisseurs possessed of skill and taste beyond your ken
That picture doesn't convey what you want it to convey, haggot.

I've seen a screenshot with xbox/playstation symbols next to people's names in-game. Is this a setting or something you can turn on? I'm on PC but I can never tell who the xbox shitters are to drop them fun strats, other than them being level 10 ofc.

Also is there a way to tell who's talking in-game? Every time someone talks it's some faggot on the mic bitching but there's no indication who it is.

>>536994273
The devs said miniguns were unfeasible because the game's fucked up system for handling/classifying objects would freak out at a continuously-active connection between a backpack and support weapon. I forget why but the engine is designed only for single reloads like stuffing a rocket into the RR, and from what they said modifying it to accommodate a continuous belt feed would require rewriting massive chunks of code from the ground up. So they're not doing it

>>536984858
Number of players means jack shit
% of active players at a location does.
There are now one billion Xbox players with zero information on how the war mechanics actually work, and who probably wouldn't care even if they did.

There will never again be a non-scripted sequence. This was already mostly the case, but before it was at least theoretically possible to do something. No longer.

>>536994597
minigun holds 1 bullet
it instantly reloads from the drum one bullet at a time
there, solved

>>536994487
they're all hags filled with seamen

>>536994735
>fps goes to zero during firing

>>536985492
Why exactly would I waste two stratagem slots on an AC + EAT combo instead of just carrying a medium pen primary with the RR and having 3 reds?

>>536994486
No, like actually. The game says that upon joining the Helldivers you give irrevocable universal consent to being injected with steroids, experimental drugs, and being experimented on in general.

>>536994597
Why not just make the minigun itself a weapon+backpack slot object, and have the other piece that drops from the pod be the "ammo" object that you pick up and instantly use.
Or like >>536994735 says, but the fps does indeed come into question.

d10 you guys choose
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242149534889/76561198331757771

>>536994273
>The point was that the devs said miniguns are "unfeasible" in the "realism" game
and pointing to the autocannon as something that is unrealistic but still in the game isn't a good example. it's not unrealistic, single man 20mm weapons exist and are used. hell here's a (experimental) 76mm shoulder fired cannon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nOkO8Sh2xs&t=31s

>>536994487
finally someone said it
bless your soul

>>536994992
Because that weapon+backpack combo object doesn't currently exist. Like, Pilestedt was talking about how, in the current system, to keep the backpack's ammo belt physically connected to the gun when the game treats them as 2 independent objects would require perpetually conducting full collision checks as though the backpack were locked into a team reload stance with the gun the entire time. Yes, the game is that fucked up under the hood. Fatshark's jank fucking engine was dropped by the industry for good reason. It is honestly literally a miracle they get anything at all done.

What the fuck would a minigun even bring that isn't already being covered by a third of the weapons in the game?

>>536992864
Not a big enough % of the active player base.
You will never win a non-scripted planet again after the xbox kids diluted the player numbers, and are fucking around, farming credits, ect.

>>536995302
1500rpm ap4 "disposable"

>>536995150
Dude, this looks like your typical single shot launcher (rpg/recoilles/etc). It is seriously not comparable to a full auto shoulder-held weapon.

>>536995009
3/4

>>536995302
What we really need is an "expendable LMG" support weapon that gets only 1 mag but you can call it down once every 90s or something

>>536995430
>once every 90s
Never happening, this is Arrowhead.

>>536995264
You didn't read. Don't make minigun and backpack as separate connectable objects, make them a singular item that takes 2 slots.
It's not 1+2, it's 1. 2 is a separate instant use ammo object that simply gives you the ammo.

>>536993976
There's a minimum range on the launcher almost always, so it's actually not that big of a problem. Pretty much unless they're right on top of you, at which point you were probably dead anyways.
Or you should take fortified so you can use it as a shotgun.

>>536995430
>90s
more like one every 5 mins, minimum
AP4, uses same round with HMG, would work

>>536995302
Imagine the Stalwart, but at least double ammo with med or heavy pen at always max rpm.

>>536995373
>>536995430
You'd have better luck asking for a really big Sickle as a support weapon tbqh

>>536995009
4/4

>>536995597
You're not reading. "Make them a singular item that takes two slots" literally does not exist in the game's engine nor can the engine parse such a thing, and it would require ripping up huge chunks of the engine to implement. Making them two separate but manually connected objects is the closest the engine lets them do.

>>536994421
The game has been in a constant ebb and flow in terms of bugs and glitches since day 1. Its been over a year and a half, sometimes its better sometimes its worse. But at this point I think its pretty safe to say that they will never be able to create a bug-free experience. You just kind of have to accept that jank swedecode will be an eternal part of this game.

>>536995597
That's not how the game works though.
You can't have a backpack and support weapon, those are two different slots. No more than you could have an armor + secondary item.
I know that sounds stupid. But that's how the game is made. An item can't be two slots.
The best you could do would be an ammo backpack, with a super low reload time (say, reaching back, grabbing a belt, connecting to gun, under half a second reload).

>>536995530
>>536995642
It was a 120s cooldown in HD1..
https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Helldivers_1:MGX-42_Machine_Gun

>>536995774
Yeah about that...
GIB TRIDENT

>>536995931
huh, does it have AP4 ? idk i played HD1 for only like 30hrs

>voted the DSS to gambit planet while eagle storm was active instead of terrek where eagle storm will pause the invasion
Bugdivers never fail.

>maximum security city
>still takes 24 hours to be captured
So it was fucking useless

>>536996116
I bet when you dive there it's just a standard mega city

>>536995827
>>536995893
>pick up minigun
>can't equip backpacks
I'm pretty sure just adding a backpack check for the minigun is not the same as rewriting tons of code.
Of course, i didn't shuffle through hd2 spaghetti so i don't know how much adding an extra line to a weapon is actually feasible. But this itself is definitely far less work than rewriting new code for whatever reason.

>>536995395
it's closer to the autocannon than it is to the recoiless rifle. it's got a breach and an entire recoil dampening system rather than just venting the exhaust gasses out the open back to counteract the recoil of firing the projectile.

also here's the barret M82A2, a shoulder fired variant of the M82. shoulder fired 20mm autocannons are not outlandish or unrealistic

>>536995530
Worse, it has happened, and Arrowhead forgot how to make it
>>536996067
Armour worked very differently in HD1 than the clusterfuck simshit we have now. It didn't have 'armour piercing' rounds, but could still take out our equivalent of 'medium' enemies just through sheer volume of fire. 'Armour piercing' rounds in the first game mostly meant extra damage against medium-armoured units

>>536992205
>swede coding quality

>>536996419
Is this comparable to teleportation devices in terms of realism?

They should add the ability to break frozen lakes on snow planets with explosives so you can you sink a hulk with a grenade

d10 bugs on bore

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242148058658/76561199129186530

>>536996532
>medium-armoured units
can it damage a Charger or cyborg's Tank ?

>>536996713
2/4
We are doing Terrek actually

>>536996562
a 12 year old game figured something out the eternal swede could never

>>536996810
>Bug Tanks/Chargers
Only if you shot at their unarmoured butts. Not applicable to Behemoths which were completely encased in heavy armour
>Cyborg Tank/IFV
No, those are heavy units that need dedicated anti-armour. Still could be useful at mowing down the enemies that spawn out of it

>>536996562
You can do that, it just requires fire damage

>>536997225
so what you're saying is HD1 had some units with armour so heavy that lighter weapons did no damage to them, some enemies with mediumish armour that lighter weapons did reduced damage to, and some enemies with light or no armour that lighter weapons did full damage to

how long did it take you to realize I just described the helldivers 2 armour penetration system?

>>536992205
>He thinks Super Earth seriously made those cities any more different than any other city in the game.
These are the same retards that said they packed every thing Tranny Park 2 with more nuclear failsafes that didn't do shit.

>>536996713
Come bug hunt with us and join

"Maximum Security City"
The maximum security is for the people living in there.
The maximum security is for how hard it is to get out.
But getting in, is easier.
Its literally a prison.

>>536996543
right next to the alcubierre drives probably

>>536997431
>be Chief Executive Officer of the Ministry of Bug Related Incidents And Other Bullshit To Fill Out My CV on Bore Rock
>The Buggening happens, again
>hear sirens and alarms blaring all over the planet and the tranny park exhibits
>quickly run to the nuclear failsafes to activate them
>realise we didnt get the code
>realise that some retard whacked the nukes with a shovel and now they're useless
>try to radio in other people to use the nukes
>they also dont have the nuke codes
>finally, a message from super earth high command, they tell us to manually arm the nukes
>run up to one, touch the terminal
>it has a bunch of funny arrows pointing in all sorts of directions
>just hit it with my fist, it breaks
>we're fucked.

>TFW tranny park 2 electric boogaloo fell because the personell never got training on how to operate a terminal

>>536986035
What if it's AP4 on projectile

>>536996713
1/4 anon had an emergency

>>536997225
so basically an expendable HD2's MMG ? doesn't sound that good desu, oh well i hope they add one for HD2 at least, with AP4

>>536996273
Really
All of these hoops are unnecessary.
Just give it a standard ammo backpack, with a really short reload time. You have effectively the same thing, and don't have to rewrite the entire game's code for a weapon a lot of people will reject on principle anyways.

>>536996713
are you on console?

>>536998376
PC but i dont mind crossplay with anons

>>536998441
no I mean it gave me this message and I can't join lol

>>536998531
weird as hell

>hdg doesnt want new warbond weapons that are reskins of already existing weapons
>"yeah but a minigun which is basically a stalwart or MMG would be good yeah totally, only difference being the backpack, which is a supply backpack in disguise"

posting again, d10 bugs, 2/4

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242148058658/76561199129186530

>max security city
>exactly the same as normal cities
what a fucking nothingburger
shouldn't have expected anything else from AH

>>536998531
Swedes changed it and didn't tell anyone. It's been popping up for others too. Like they are somehow trying to accommodate for more console shits .... tolerance irony

>>536998296
Well, in the context of how support weapons can be called multiple times in HD2, no, it wouldn't sound like a worthwhile tradeoff.
But HD1 doesn't have that luxury, if you died with any other support weapon your entire team would have to go back to where you dropped the thing if you wanted to use it again, so having a machine gun you could call down multiple times was useful

>>536998765
great they added even more bullshit to a city. It's like they are trying to see how low they can get your fps or something

>blitz has fucked up rewards
understandable, i shall finish the quota then call in pelican, ignoring everything else.

Why do so many furfags play this game?

>>536998904
>great they added even more bullshit to a city
the thing is that they didn't

>>536998765
To be honest Max Security Cities are just more orwellian than the others, they're not talking about any actual active defense measures.

>>536999219
popular game has vast demographics of people playing game
except certain faggots love to show off how much of a faggot they are.

>>536999219
Because they genuinely behave like bugs. If you don't regularly stomp them out they'll just infest whatever they've latched onto. In this case one I think of the discord mods is a furfag that made some post saying he'd ban anyone that shat on furries, which just signaled to the rest of his ilk that they're safe to come crawling out

>>536998739
bump

>>536999426
>ban anyone that shat on furries
what if the furfag likes being shat upon? hypothetically, of course.

>>536999219
muh lgbt capes spammers are even worse

So many xbox newbies keep fucking up the credit farming by joining level missions and doing the objectives and wanting to extract. They also don't know what's going on and just follow me and others around while not contributing. I know its not there fault for not knowing any better and wanting to play the game but its still annoying

>>536998739
3/4 come hunt bugs with us

>>536999643
set it to private retard

>>536999643
so play friends/invite only?

>>536999639
What the actual FUCK is that image?
t. Furry

>>536990563
masculinityslop IP

>>536999643
Set your shit to private, faggot.
(((YOU))) are the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw
heres your fucking dust devils trailer

>>536999783
meant for >>536990450

>>536999680
3/4 One more Diver for the cause

It's Eagle-1's birthday today.

>>536999871
Oh good, I was worried they got even lazier and stopped making these.

>>536999871
The incendiary AR IS AN AP3??? It headshots the hiveguard lmfao

>>537000065
it's a brood commander
ap2 100%

>>536999871
>no confirmation that the spear gun has heavy pen
they're gonna give it medium pen aren't they
they actually are gonna make the sterilizer look good by comparison aren't they

>>536999639
JHHAHAHAHAHA
BWJHAHSJDAJH
Holy fuck, what a timeline we live in.

Not gonna lie, the only thing that looks interesting from the Dust Devils warbond is the EAT-700.
Everything else looks like its there to fill up the space.
The fire rifle is gonna be another Pacifier moment, where its better to straight up kill something with a better weapon than to bother with status effects (because they're bugged or nerfed)
The grenade wont be any better than frags, thermites, gas, stuns, HE or pyrotech.
Missile Silo is either the newest noob stratagem to make bots even easier if its the same as a 500kg, or a big meme.
The Harpoon gun...well, maybe next leviathan MO?

happy birthday eagle-chan

>>537000380
>The fire rifle is gonna be another Pacifier moment, where its better to straight up kill something with a better weapon than to bother with status effects (because they're bugged or nerfed)

Cookout is pretty OP on bugs, problem is with fire/gas is that you have to be the host or stick close to the host due to the DoT proximity bug WHICH THEY STILL HAVENT FIXED

>>537000380
passive on the armor is purportedly a weaker version of insulated (killzone armor passive) with bonus throw range

>>537000380
the silo will probably release in an underpowered state but stratagems that actually let you have an effect at moderate range are more than welcome
the overfocus on cqb and hold M1 to win made the game too sleep inducing

>>536996086
it was more about getting the blob to Bore since they were ignoring it in favor of Terrek, didn't work anyway because moon planets are like crack to pubbies

Next Faction will be inspired by this sci-fi race. How do the Helldivers fare?

>>537000581
I really wish they'd just dedicate an update to fixing shit. New content is nice but only when it actually functions properly.

>>537000753
someone made a mod to replace the automaton models and sounds with orks

>>537000753
>no tactics
>no aim
>gear barely works
>green
>cringe
an even match I'd say

>>537000764
Enjoy your 20GB update that adds one gun, one cape, two bugfixes, and twenty new bugs that radically gimp things that used to work perfectly fine.

>boot up the game
>OH SHIT this is serious now
>check map
>game just put me near ivis for no reason
im disappointed beyond belief

>>537000764
I really can't be excited for new shit because game is in such shitty place bug and performance wise that it really pisses me off. Arrowhead somehow found a way to make this game worse every fucking patch

>>537000581
They haven't fixed anything they broke before going on vacation
pelican is still broken
status effects are still broken
dropships killing everything they're carring is still in
audio bug is still there
performance got even worse
The only bugs AH cares to fix are the ones that benefit players, like the stun bug and melee ignoring charger leg armor

>>537000753
They'd be way too tanky and fast to deal with properly.

>>536999219
autists have problems with identity and sexuality

Justice crossover soon.

>>537000981
The 20 gigs was from the new gloom worlds and shit being stored for later.

>>537001302
There's no Justice
Just Us!
Miggers!

>>537000764
at this point they need to start hiring modders to unfuck everything, it's the best option since snoy would never allow them to open source

So is this any different or is it just exactly like every other city map?

city maps more like shitty maps

>>537000764
legitimately works on my machine

>>536995009
GG

>>537001401
it's exactly the same as every other mega city

Is it weird I don't have motivation to play helldivers 2 when the mo situation is in the shitter?
Like I like the gameplay loop
But the end screen with the rates just makes it feel like I wasted my time

>>537000764
specs?

>>537001470
>tfw players finish a city just in time to start another city
This is obnoxious. Most city planets should've had one city.

I hate fighting bots because shooting hunks of metal is boring.
I hate fighting squids because zombies are boring.

>>537001729
Just say you got filtered.

>>536999639
Why???

>>537001540
>>537001719
I'm talking in reference to the bug >>537000581 posted and other various gameplay bugs not performance issues.

>>537000735
I mean I hope the defense fails. I have the boys coming over for a Psuedo-LAN HD2 session tomorrow and predator bugs on the moon will be fucking kino.

>>537001692
Yeah that's weird, most people i haven spoken to don't care about the MO.

>>537001729
Bugs are zombie-like

>>537001384
Woah! That's a rare anon, I thought all of you got cubed! Well, good to meet you, Russian anon!

>>537001985
Bugs are buglike.

>>537002130
Yes, I suppose zombies are bug-like...

>>537001984
Its not so much the MO as it is Joel rigging multiple defenses to make it impossible to defend. I guess I dont like entertaining that faggots temper tantrums.

>>537002179
Zombies are zombielike.
Starship troopers wasn't a zombie movie.

>>537000239
It didn't even overkill the bug through the headshot. The goddamn Eruptor does that.
It's over. The harpoon gun is STRICTLY "put gas over there", and maybe kill a single medium enemy.
Maybe not useless, at least better than the Sterilizer, but, dogshit.

>>537002231
>temper tantrum
I think you fags give Joel way to much credit in regards to caring about the galactic war.
I imagine him just doing the bare essentials and then clockig out after a full 4 hour workday.

>>537001692
I mean, I feel it a bit?
But I feel it more in the missed potential sense.
I see how cool it would be to actually interact with the narrative and play a part in it, but that's just not what the game is.
I guess, the feeling is kinda like realizing you fell for a scam? The game's still fun once you accept that, but, it does sting a bit

>>537001692
there's still the kill counter so it's worth going to otherwise useless defenses but whoever is running the metagame has to be intentionally trying to filter out the more engaged players so they don't have to work as hard on new content

>keep looking for low-level lobbies on D3 to give them a free mech or other cool weapons
>keep pointing at the mech, newbie gets in
>next second a new newbie lands on top of the mech and destroys it
>another one touches my porty bomb and blows us all up
Its like being that one guy on the team that goes "Hey, kid, wanna see something cool?" before pulling out the ice cubes infront of the deep fryer.

>>537002791
>I guess, the feeling is kinda like realizing you fell for a scam? The game's still fun once you accept that, but, it does sting a bit
Honestly thats probably the best way to describe it. And knowing arrowhead they probably think its "le funny satire and le tragedy of war" instead of what it really is, joel being a shitty gm.

>>537000753
Bots, but fast, with less armor.
They're gonna circle around you in various shitkarts, hoot and shoot at you and miss 98% of their shots, the ones that do hit will be trivial, and the actual focus is making sure the big motherfucker with an axe power walking over to you doesn't actually reach you.

>>537002537
He said it himself that he would stay awake all night micromanaging liberation rates during interviews.

>>537003136
So, illuminates?
>trivial horde enemy that eats up all your ammo and distracts you from the actual big fucker about to go pre-democratic times on your ass

>>537003267
so he's not lazy, he's just either ludicrously incompetent or has horrible judgment skills

>last mission for the op bonus
>get pic rel map and cant drop anywhere
I hate sweden I hate sweden

>>537003471
>Shaped like a cock and balls

>>537001692
>But the end screen with the rates just makes it feel like I wasted my time
If they removed the gay ass +0001% screen, I would probably play twice as many missions as I do right now. There is something incredibly demotivating about spending 20+ minutes breaking your ass to see "lol lmao, you are literally worthless"

>>537003471
The bore rock ETS seeds are fucked up. Water everywhere on most maps or giant cliff faces on the landing pads.

>>537003270
Their basic soldier is a big green gorilla man about three times the size of a human that wants to jump you with the rest of the boys.

>>537003786
>fast bulletsponge horde that either oneshots you in melee or ragdolls you to death
Sounds like AHs wet dream of a faction

>>537003893
ork ballistic accuracy would at least justify the tendency for enemies to only aim on one out of every twenty shots

>>537003270
Illuminate, but the meatwad spawns as a proper boss enemy, not a medium one. Also it probably just oneshots you.

And replace the voteless with half the sword and gun automatons, but a bit slower, and half shitty goblins that actively try to run away from you, until they form a pack of like 20, at which point they mob up and come back, shooting you with BB guns that actually do hit pretty well, but deal like no damage.
The buggies and wagons are all medium pen, but you can shoot the boyz out, who are unarmored, like scout striders. Boyz will climb into open seats in cars they come up on.
They will also jack any unattended FRVs or mechs.
And one may climb into the passenger or gunner seat of YOUR truck if you let them. It's fine though, he won't actively try to kill you once he's in, he's just happy to have a ride and will just shoot wildly at whatever.
Also at least a few looted automaton vehicles, harvesters, and chargers mixed in with the buggies and trucks.

>>537003893
They shouldn't be able to hit shit at range but arrowhead would obviously fuck it up and make them laser accurate somehow.

>>537000753
Do they look like that, or this?
Imagine: giant cockney cat women hooligans who only care about fighting and use tech that shouldn't work, but it does because they think it does.

>>537002537
Yeah, though I doubt he even puts in 4 hours.
The entire Galactic War stuff is done by everyone else, and most is probably automated at this point. Joel probably just checks in every few hours and maybe tweaks something that their system can't do itself.
>>537003267
Knowing how developers will lie as often as they breathe, I have severe doubts about this. Maybe once upon a time, when they could only fuck with liberation percentage.

>>536999871
That makes all three strategems look dogshit. And the grenade too.
The spear gun is only used on mediums, has a single shot before reloading, and the gas cloud is tiny AF.
The NEAT is the only one with some hope, but even that looks like it has too small AoE and the flames don't last long enough. A slightly larger incendiary nade, but takes a strat slot.
And the missile. The explosion is surprisingly small and looks like they headshot the BT to kill it.
We'll see, but I don't have my hopes set high.

If the dissidents ever do get added they should only crop up on liberated planets like illuminate do. Doesn't seem feasible that defectors with stolen military hardware would last very long on a planet that super earth hasn't already glassed given that three other biblical-scale invasion forces are out gunning for them.

>>537004372
You should believe people when they tell you they are shitty and petty people.

>>537004265
>furry but also gore fetishist

>>537004421
Alexus is currently in full command. All your observations have a chance of being true.

MO trannies
>NOOOO WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS AIEEEEEEE
Normal people
>Cool look at all these planets I can play on

>expendable incendiary launcher
>EAT-700
>Expendable Anti-Tank
>explicitly not an anti-tank weapon
Should have been the Expendable Incendiary Ordnance or Expendable Napalm Dispenser or something.

>>537004713
this

>>537004783
END-17
END-IT
thatll be 10 sc

>>537004421
to be fair, probably nobody is going to use the missile on bile titans. it's going to be used to destroy strategem jammers and other objectives at long range

>>537004783
They really should've moved these clowns to the new game and left the A-team here. The xbox release alone most likely made them way more money than their new game will make in it's lifetime.

>we're gonna lose the supermax megacity
>nobody gives a fuck
lel
reminds me of the shitty SEAF training facilities back in the day

>>536999871
this emote is the new /hdg/ secret handshake

>>537004783
there should be a davy crocket eat that has longer cooldown but shoots a nuke

>>537004492
>you should believe people when they say they work 24/7, on and off the clock
Is it so hard to believe that they probably automate this shit and are exaggerating how much effort they actually put in?

>>537004914
"it's unrealistic for such a small missile to destroy a strategem jammer, which usually requires a hellbomb. Besides, the propulsion of missiles counters their weight. They are basically weightless" - Alexus, destroyer of games.

>>537001719
>>537001540
>Several bugs in game that effect you even if you run off a nasa quantum server from the future
>HURDUR SPECS?! LOL GIT GUD CUMPTER SCRB!!!1

>>537004783
>didn't call it the END-17
>didn't even call it the NEAT-700
>only copying popular franchises and 300 new slightly different assault rifles
Genuinely getting creatively bankrupt

>>537004572
It doesn't have to be a fetish, anon.

hiiii! where my seafas at?? :)

>>536999639
I do feel bad for pooners, at least when compared to normal troons. Something ridiculous like over 90% of them were molested as kids and once you know that, it becomes obvious this is just a deranged coping mechanism for that. I'll still laugh at the retarded shit they post, though.

>>537004713
>"Wow look at all these planets that all have the exact same layout I can play on!"
Nobody says this.

>>537004990
and why should we care?
they're not gonna reset the galactic war, and they're not gonna disable an entire front (again. i know, botdivers, i know)
even if we lost super earth during the defense, they had contigency plans to continue the story (wouldve been more kino though)

lose a planet, nothing happens. win a planet, nothing happens.
nothing ever happens. its all a big, interactive mission select screen with some text to gloss over, just to go back to vog sojoth for the 852nd time this month.

>>537004986
At the time of release, Helldivers 2 had such enormous momentum that they really could have spun it into a mega-franchise if they'd been on top of their game. But the combination of Sony's account mandate, slew of unresolved bugs, and the mismanagement of the Galactic War really killed that potential.

The fact that the game reaches such consistent players numbers even between major patches (40-60k peaks during weekdays, I think we hit over 200k with the Xbox introduction? steamcharts has the 24-hour peak at 130k for steam alone) is a testament to how much potential the IP had and still has.

>>537005169
affect*

>>537005165
buffing jammers so you couldn't take them out by blowing up the fabricator is still one of his biggest bitch moves

>>537005390
That's around the same percentage of male troons getting molested as kids.

>>537005308
it doesn't have to be
but it is

>>537005448
No, effects don't work, not affects.

>>537005029
he's not saying "i'm working all the time". He's saying he's manually managing the automated systems in the game against the players.

I'm genuinely going to main this weapon even if it sucks, and even if I know it will be pen 4 at best, with shitty direct damage on top.

>>537005619
I might start affecting you with some effects if you don't brush up on your English homework, ESL-kun

>>537005449
I would love to have an interaction where the jammer gets temporarily interrupted from the fabricator destruction for 30 seconds or a minute before it goes back fully operational

>>537005863
they couldn't just give us a gas grenade launcher because it would be way too good as a CC machine

>>537005606
I have no innate desire to watch them ger dismembered any more than I want to watch helldivers get dismembered.

>>537005867
Ok, but make sure your nearby whoever's hosting the room otherwise it won't work.

>>537005425
the in-game counter peaked at 400k players between all platforms on xbox release date, before the server crashed.

lobby doko

>>537005449
It was based and now that everything blows up fabs for no reason it's a necessary thing to keep jammers from being completely trivial

>>537005574
Zoomer ones, maybe. Especially if you count getting groomed on Discord by other troons with EPI fetishes.

>>537006083
why dont you?

not even discordtroons seem to like it

>>537005863
>le realism
>giant ass spears reloaded from out of nowhere
>no backpack filled with harpoons for the kino aesthetics

Finally we've entered another slippery slope that will make the game fun.

>>536998739
3/4 come hunt bugs on the moon

>>537006046
400k players is pretty fucking amazing for a game that's over a year and a half old, particularly with how fast the playerbase of co-op horde shooters tends to dwindle to only small, persistent core.

>>537006195
Red EATs, it's going to be great.

>>536996713
>Fun Pred Op
GGs Mech Buff soon!

>>537006107
Maybe don't let everything blow up fabricators instead of buffing a building so fabricators don't chain blow it up. Or change the base layout instead of being a bitch.

>>537006195
HALO weapons were subpar, they definitely couldn't make the next warbond have anything worth a damn.

>>537006195
>/hdg/ loves it
>discord hates it
hmm

>>537005863
why does it brap i don't get it

>>537003776
Not just Bore Rock. That specific Terminid Eradication map is fucked up on all planets.

>>537006236
Railgun already has big fucking ammo blocks and 20 for that matter

>>537005309
Here

>>537006476
>harpoon with a canister of gas attached to the shaft that breaks open on impact

>>537006036
>bro what if my lion waifu was in the game as an enemy you regularly turned into hamburger
>wouldn't that be crazy haha
>I'm not into that tho
>but just imagine it wouldn't that be weird haha

>>537006195
>sandshit
I got sand fatigue. Not buying.

if you don't like realism why not play the new fortnite season? I heard it's made by competent devs too

>>537006236
to be fair, they'd probably have to make it a lot stronger to justify an ammo backpack, and alexus hates strong weapons

>>537006614
deserts are the worst environment in every setting but they have the most vocal minority of fans

>>537005408
>lose super earth
>immediatly shut down all servers
>game's over, no refunds, thanks for playing :)
based

>>537006614
I like sandshit but only good thing I see in the warbond is new paintjobs and the NEAT. AR looks like shite nobody needs considering inc breaker exists, harpoon has laughably small cloud and missile silo is likely to suffer from alexus being salty nigger that doesn't want to give players anything useful.

>>537006046
>400k concurrent player count
Fatshark on suicide watch?

>>537006692
>applies gas + fire + ems on direct hit
There, now you have an extremely fun niche weapon.

>>537006403
The halo SMG made me realize how fucking slow all the smgs and primaries feel in this game. And I don't like it.

>>537006195
>Meanwhile Space Marines 2 offers better updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0p-57HIIWA

>>537006647
the promise of "realism" is code for "i need to come up with a shit excuse as to why things are behaving like this, and ignore that i'm trying to make a video game"

only a swede would go "lets make a horde coop PvE shooter and also add realism to it because...well, we used to clean toilets back in the army, so we have military experience!"

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>>537006906
too bad 40k is boring cringe

>>537006906
Imma be real, chief.
SM2 looks and feels awesome visually, but the gameplay is fucking boring.

>>537006906
>better updates
Possibly, but their core gameplay is much worse.

>>537006906
I should play that game with friend or two, hows the co-op? I want to enjoy the story mode with lads

So let me get this straight. Epoch cant have demolition because "muh realism"
No rep-80 gun and instead opted for shitty stim pistol
But were adding in a harpoon gun where we reload it by pulling spears out of our ass???

>>537006906
Space Marine's 2 gameplay sucks ass, specifically the melee. Is like they tried to mix souls combat with Batman Arkham and its dull and tedious.

>>537006692
they want their backpack stratagems to get used more but nobody trusts their teammates with the ammo pack, if they even know assisted reload exists. I regularly run into level 50+ players that don't understand why i'm trying to stand next to them and keep running away

>>537002512
grim. Just fucking grim. I didn't need the worst support weapon of all time twice in a row. Fuck.

>>537006987
the realism is why the game feels good to play, if it wasn't there we may as well go play darktide or any other gay excuse for a coop shooter that comes out these days

>>537006906
Too bad the gunplay in space marine 2 is utter fucking abhorrent shit that makes helldivers 2's look like a masterpiece. Maybe they can update the guns to not be shit.
>unload your entire mag directly into a single enemy's head or kill nothing
Fucking top stuff why did you even add guns to this game.
Yes, I'm mad.

>>537007125
Troonish realism for swiggers.

>>536998739


3/4 im gonna start in 3 minutes if nobody joins

>>537007331
all they have to fucking do is let allies reload your weapon from your own backpack, so people can drop-in-drop-out for assisted reload without having to sacrifice their own backpack slot in advance

it's so fucking retarded that the obvious answer is one their community has all but beat them over the head with, but they refuse to budge

>>537007331
I usually shake off anyone who reload assists me because it makes moving so unbearably slow.

>>537006987
the realism autism based animations, movement weight and sound design are why the game is popular. The "realism" based number balancing Alexus is doing is why we reached all time player lows between control group and halo.

>>537007004
>only options are "Platform? Your recent experience? What do you like and dislike?"
Maybe they learned from the last survey, where there were many more options to choose from and complain about. Now they just wanna go "hurr lets skim this over real quick, i got work to cancel in 5 minutes."

>>537007119
>hows the co-op?
It's enjoyable, and you can use a mod that adds more players in your lobby (I've played with 9 players once, it was a shitshow but hilarious).
>I want to enjoy the story mode with lads
You can play with mates once you pass the introduction.

we don't you guys stop playing, it's clear none of you are having fun

>AH hypes the shit out of the new "maximum security cities"
>go to one
>it's just a normal megacity but you can't lose it guise!1!! (we are going to lose it)

>>537007861
Anon, I complain and bitch and seethe about Arrowhead's many, many mistakes because I fucking love the game and see the massive potential it has to be even better.

If I didn't care, I really would just drop it and go somewhere else.

>>537007861
But I've had fun playing this game. I know it can be fun.
That's why it's so aggravating that the swedes keep fucking it up.

>>537007861
How about you do your english homework first, Rashid?

>>537007392
Yeah, it's fucking insane how headshot dependent the game is even for fodder. It's ridiculous.

>>537007861
I barely play anymore
one or two ops per week what used to be multiple ops per day

>>537007942
They couldn't even leave their jurassic park shit wait for a week before popping it. Absolutely shit pacing, absolutely shit story telling.

>>537007850
>What are you enjoying?
the free stratagems were nice but thats it.
>What did you dislike?
known issues since launch day, bot dropships, squids, bricks, warbond quality, galactic war, status effects

>>537007861
I'm having fun, it's just a shame that filtering out the word "Joel" or any variation of "swigger" removes 90 percent of the post

Helldivers provides a stunning example of why real Democracy absolutely must be Managed for effective governance.

>>537005863
>shoots spears that brap for some reason
>instead of kino thermite spears that give off a lightshow before detonating inside the target
Eternally fumbling.

>alone on other side of map about to do objective
>eagle comes out of nowhere and mows me down
>get respawned with team
>reach objective
>eagle comes and mows me down

>squid MO is the first one to succeed
and here i thought that bots would win first. maybe they'll come in second, and 'nids are gonna die off.
thanks for the 55 medals!

>>537008689
Helldivers 2 provides a great example of why Alexus and Joel need to be fired.

>>537008689
It is in most forms that it exists in. Managed democracy is just the parody version of representative/parliamentary democracy.

>>537007861
I criticize the game because I want it to be better and not a snooze fest. Is it so hard to understand???

>>537007861
>we dont you guys

>>537007004
>don't even ask what you liked about the new warbond
Wow, they're not even trying anymore.

>>537009031
>most proposed changes on here are to make the game easier

>>537008886
xbox players probably gravitated to the squids because they're the most covenant-like, plus they had the smallest bar to fill

>>537008886
lowest target while voteless makes getting 6 million kills per mission pretty easy
it ain't rocket surgery

>>537009502
idw to hear about your rocket surgery tranny

>>537008689
The so called "based" Democracy falls apart when you realise this - the average person is not a thinking person. Not as a derogatory insult, but they genuinely cannot be bothered to care. They wake up, eat breakfast, go to work, come back home, and do whatever. Whether that is playing Call of Duty, Forklift Simulator, watching videos or lord knows what.

The political parties given to you are, to put it simply, choosing between two lesser evils. Or four. Or several.
All the political parties exist to fatten their pockets and only improve some aspects in the state, but not what the state really needs.
You might read the "ideas" that Party A has, and think "yeah I can get behind that", then read what Party B has to offer, which also has some good ideas. But for some reason, Party A and B don't want to team up. Party C wants to improve the general well-being of most people, but because they are relatively new, nobody cares for them. Then there's Party D which exists purely because old people are grumpy old bastards that want to see newer generations burn, lest they get a chance to prosper.

What would be my solution to it all? I don't know. It's a necessary evil that I will do my best to stay away from as far as possible. It's nothing you can directly influence, without switching to more drastic measures.
But yeah helldivers, uhhhhhhhhhhhh, cool that we get free stalwarts huh?

>>537008216
>anon says in the general thread for a game that has an autistic damage system explicitly designed so that anything but weakpoint hits will be significantly less effective against most enemies, unless you go absolutely overkill or use explosives

>>537009573
rentfree

>xbox "reinforcements"
>all that showboating about "remember Reach" etc.
>they're all garbage players and we're losing more operations than we are completing them

SE is cooked

>>537007331
Nobody wants to be the team gimp.
Even if they do, there's a backpack for this, the supply backpack.
NOBODY is taking RR or whatever, to take the backpack and not use the weapon.
And if you take someone's ammo backpack before they can grab it, almost assuredly, they are going to shoot you, and take it for themselves, and if you try it again, you're getting kicked.

If they REALLY wanted to do this, make the team reload backpack a thing. Call it the fucking heavy weapon team backpack, or whatever.
It has 10 reloads of any support weapon, and can team reload any support weapon that takes a backpack, but can't be loaded into a gun you're holding. You already turn ammo boxes into whatever the fuck is in your hand by magic, this isn't that weird.

>>537009348
>People on here mostly talk about game design verisimilitude, visual language and story telling techniques
>"but the dificulty, tho!"
Hard games can be well designed and an engaging story well paced. Alex and Joel's bullshit is not "dificulty"

>>537009740
I've gotten used to and enjoy both games. It's just hard not to roll my eyes when I see the autistic math involved when people explain the damage systems of both.

>>537009954
I don't get why "let me help with reloading using the shooter's own backpack" is so hard.

Fly high through the bufftoddler skies
Fight for the game we must save
Like tears of a marksman Chad lost in the rain
Reddit made Helldivers gay!
APOCALYPSE 2025

>>537008886
The Illuminate numbers were getting padded even before the Xbox players joined, we went from 10% over a few days, to 20% almost overnight.

>>537009740
imagine if scavengers could survive three bodyshots from an adjucator and warriors took a full mag to the body

>>537009904
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, anon... As veterans, it is our duty to provide guidance to rookies. Super Earth must be preserved.

>>537009904
came back recently and couldn't figure out why d10 was filled with level 15 players who threw 5 grenades at 3 devastators and die 3 times a minute
thank god for the enable crossplay option, ironically enough i think playing d10 with crossplay on right now is the hardest the game has ever been lol

>>537010114
do you want 9 out of 10 divers on the autocannon? no? then you don't want that either

>>537010114
Console limitations
All interaction between players are on the same button because controllers only have so many buttons. Stimming, resupplying, emoting, hellbomb backpack and teamloading are all on the same button.
Now add reloading a dude with his own backpack to that list and start figuring out priorties.
The other option is that its an interaction their shitty dead engine can't handle.

>>537010306
it's really not, d10 is very soloable if you're not a dude alc lmao

>>537010283
>as veterans
all the veterans stopped playing and moved on to do something better with their free time.
only reason to come back is for new warbonds AKA the new "content" and thats it.

there is no old guard, there are no veterans. this general is full of tourists and newfags that act like hot shit just because they can play d10 bugs with a meta loadout.
its time to let go. move on.
or host a lobby.

>>537010451
yeah having 3 mongolitos aggro half the map, spawn a gorillion bot drops, call all the supply drops and use literally all your stocks is harder than solo

>>537009904
>we lose Super Earth
>regain control of it offscreen the next day

>>537010442
it would just be interacting with an ally's ammo backpack the same way you interact with their hellbomb backpack, only it would put you into load-assist mode instead of activating the bomb. It should be a generic "interact with ally's backpack" button once you get into proximity with their backpack, which is probably just a contextual interaction for whatever is the standard interact button on controllers.

How DARE the enemy sucks on our well-hung dicks?!

>>537009904
The funniest thing, is with how player population actually works, they have been an active detriment more than anything else, since they're all going to farm money where youtube men sent them

>>537009723
You need to be 18 to post on this site.

I got eagle stormed...

>>537010767
please assume to position

>>537010554
d10 whatever
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242164721314/76561198070364341

>another key planet about to be lost
my niggas idk about u but im tired of losing.....

>>537010963
I.. thank you... she looks just like me...

the lady who voices eagle-1 has her birthday today

say happy birthday eagle-1

>>537010990
just stop caring bro
realize that the war is nothing but a map screen
understand that all MOs are scripted and nothing we do impacts anything

>>537009723
>>537008689
The few times in which all the playerbase came together to pull out gambits was nice.
And they didn't do it because of managed democracy, they did it because they cared and wanted to be helpful.
It's incredible that the fucking ONU had to step in to make sure AH didn't keep doing what they were doing because it was a threat to global security (average joes coming together and organizing to do things).

>>537011067
delicious caek is on its way
happy birthday eagle-chan

>>537010114
I will forever be stalwart (hue) in my belief that team reloading someone off a backpack on their back makes much more sense realistically. The main issue slowing down reloads would be that it's inconvinient to reach behind yourself for long ass projectiles.

>>537010989
2/4

>>537011173
they gonna add nerfs for losing it
thats what i hate about it

>>537010925
why were you being undemocratic

I cant stop NOT bringing the AC+EAT combo anymore, bros
>bugs, can kill all the small fuckers with my primary until its time for big cunts
>bots, same thing
>squids, makes fleshmobs a breeze with flak rounds
I feel naked if I dont use the AC at all anymore. My personal crutch...

>>537011173
They are paying an employee ONLY to make this shit. I will stop caring when they fire him or if he actually does his job and makes this enjoyable. DO YOUR JOB.

Honestly good on Joel for subverting expectations
The xbox kids aren't here to save us in our time of need, they're here to make everything worse as we lose even more

>>536982751
How hyper-autistic do you need to be to have to immediately make a mod that slightly tweaks it?
In halo alone, recon’s gone through several iterations.

>>537007331
It's not due to a lack of trust, it's that this game's maps are too expansive for it to be useful.

Low level shitters get overwhelmed by number mobs surrounding them (even if relatively low in numbers at those difficulties) or there simply aren't enough heavies per engagement to warrant assisted reload.

Seasoned divers are too busy spreading themselves out to complete multiple objectives concurrently or are simply experienced enough to deal with small skirmishes on their own without needing assisted reload.

>>537011512
just take the eruptor it's basically an autocannon

>>537011409
If they were going to tie nerfs to it, then the mission was truly unwinnable, and they would have pulled a fiat to make sure it happened.

>>537010989
3/4

>have eagle storm enabled
>send dss to bore rock instead of defending planets
??????????

>>537011570
>make big deal out of MUH HECKIN EPIC REINFORCEMENTS
>entire war is percentage based so it changes literally nothing
>arguably makes it worse because ten gorillion dudes playing d1-d5 will have less impact on their own while actively reducing the impact people playing on d10 have just by existing
the galactic war is such shitshow

>>537011750
>just take the lesser bolt-action version
No

>>537011791
The DSS is proof that democracy needs to be managed.

>>537011570
TK ALL XBOX PLAYERS
KICK ALL XBOX PLAYERS
LEAVE ALL XBOX HOSTS
XBOX A SHIT
100 THOUSAND CONCURRENT DEAD WEIGHTS
I AM FROM PC AND I SAY KILL THEM ALL

>>537010990
This game is the best advertisement for Stellaris
Want a a Galactic War without the faggot of a GM rigging you to lose non-stop? Make your own Super Earth

>>537010989
4/4

>ah does stupid shit like console command bore rock back to bugs
>even tho the mo says getting the kills will stop the attacks, finishing the squid mo won’t stop their current attacks
I hate swiggers.

>2 Tyranny Parks
>not even 1 SEAF-World
):^[

>>537011750
>not automatic
>no accuracy
>no range
it's the opposite of the autocannon

>>537011512
I could never use a backpack weapon. Teleport pack and jump pack are just too good.

>>537012113
opposite for me, backpacks are neat but not worth passing on the white male rage stick

>>537011512
I'm always baffled when people say the AC bad. In fact I don't think the guns EVER been bad through the games history.

>>536984715
The cave warbond will have DRG's Mission Control be the one telling you what to do
>Alright, divers, this is a sample retrieval mission!

>>537011991
The original Tyranny park had caged areas in the POIs for the bugs. Bore rock is just the same fucking map as usual. AH fucking lazy.

>>537012305
I just never use it. I was always an EATfag

>>537012449
>Democracy wants eggs, don't ask why. They're big and they glow.

d10 any
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242167375562/76561198027910192

>>537012449
I fucking wish, man. I miss hearing Mission Control's exasperated voice on the other end of the radio.

>>537012305
For some reason read: killmog cringe this general is obsessed with the highest ergo, least reload intensive weapons. That makes autocannon easy to hate. It still is being accepted as the overall best support weapon in less autistic parts of the community. Same thing with primaries such as DCS and Adjudicator, extremely popular and undeniably effective primaries that will get you occasional funny looks and whispered-behind-back aimlet shitter accusations if you roll them in /hdg/ lobbies.

>>536986707
Just improve the bot AI tactics, that's all. And up the number of bug chaff at all times from a mere 30 to 100 while leaving the 50 remaining spawn slots for the guards and heavies

>>537006195
the discord and its community management team are worthy of nothing but your contempt

>>537012549
fvll lmao

>>537012549
>failed to join

after playing with our new friends after while they seem to leave half of the map unfinished and are in quite the rush to extract after completing the mission and barely pick up samples strange

Sorry S1 I got to return to the wage cage shortly and can't play

>>537012809
don't worry we got fvll in less time than you would be able to hit join

They should hide supply lines again.
It would be funny

>>537012701
I like the railgun and sickle.

>>537012305
That's because every weapon now is in a decent spot and you have answers for every enemy type due to the sheer variety of stratagems and secondary weapons at your disposal.

>bring the shitty Liberator Concussive
>got my GL for chaff and medium enemies
>8 ultimatums plus 12/16 grenades of my choice because I'm a Resupp back guy
>bring Orbital Railgun versus heavies because im lazy like that
>still have one more stratagem to fuck around with
>Decide to grenade pistol instead; no problem just bring the thermite etc.
>bring Stalwart? Swap main to Eruptor or Crossbow for medium enemies

No doubt some weapons are better on certain factions, but we've reached a point where you can bring anything versus everything.

Bring whatever, no one on D10 gives a fuck at this stage. If it works for you, it works.

Why do hellniggers die after 3 seconds of shoulder high water.

>>537012794
>Complete all the objectives
>"liberation +.0001%"
>Complete bare minimum
>"liberation +.0001%"
>"okay, so you be saiyan, that the more missions I complete per hour, the more I liberate???"
It's AH's fault that the game lies and gives false impressions.

What's the biggest enemy type in HD2?

>>537013237
Dress up like a fireman with full equipment and then go swimming. You'd sink in no time.

>>537013237
realism please understand

how much you wanna bet the new spear stratagem is light pen

>>537013365
ur mom lol

>>537013394
You know you can walk on the bottom.

>>537013365
The Illuminate Mothership by technicality, since it does have a health pool.

More realistically, the Illuminate Leviathan, followed by the Automaton Factory Strider.

Factory Strider might get usurped if we end up getting a Hive Lord in the cave patch.

>>537013237
Look at their arms in the rambo armor. It's a racist stereotype

>>537013231
>bring Orbital Railgun versus heavies because im lazy like that

I sure like the OR a lot more if It didn't have it's fucking huge ass cool down. I was REALLY hoping after the event they'd lower it down soemthing like at least 80 seceonds. Imo it should have cool down close to the eats. Even more so since it's not unheard of that it get's it's shot blocked by terrian, don't always 1 shot things, or just picks the wrong target you were going for.

>>537013570
BT is bigger than FS

>>537012113
This is where I am.
I don't really like the Quasar all that much, but it gets the job done, and lets me jetpack. I feel its inadequacy compared to the RR all the time, but, I'm not willing to give up jumping.
Especially when I run Fortified + Heavy to be damn near immune to explosives for bots.

>>537010925
If she finds out you have a small cock during your pre-dive blowjob, she culls you appropriately in the mission. It's simple eugenics, I'm sure you understand.

>>537013540
Nah, she's a skinny methhead
>>537013570
Do they have like a size chart for enemies anywhere by any chance?

>>537012701
>>537012701
>It still is being accepted as the overall best support weapon
Why do people still make wide sweeping claims when you can easily disprove it with stats.

new ar will be med pen

>>537013426
People have spent the past year and 5 months not giving a shit about gambits. Stop getting so incensed about it.

>>537013915
I'm predicting Pacifier but with fire
strictly worse than just bringing a Lib

>>537013523
>The spear gun is actually AP0, but it sticks to all armor.
>"It's only meant to be a delivery system." - Alexus

>>537013565
What the fuck are you, a fucking fish?

RIGHT, THAT'S IT
GET THE FUCK OUT

>>537013237
dawg you're covered head to toe with heavy armor and weaponry

>>537013710
Bile Titans are taller than Factory Striders, but not bigger in terms of actual volume. They have a lot of empty space around fairly spindly legs.

>>537006195
Well, it's easy to see why even xedditcord smells the stink from here. For one, nobody asked for Dust Devils. Dune is too nerdy for Helldivers 2. It is good sci-fi, just not an IP you associate with explosionmaxxing action and political satire. We're inspired by Starship Troopers, which is like the polar opposite flavor of sci-fi.
Beyond that we're facing another bunch of underwhelming additions. The datamined solo silo doesn't pass the demo value check for jammers and detectors. Sure you can fire it at a heavy that stands perfectly still but it might still miss. This thing is built for fabricator janny duties when fabricators are so easy to remove that they sometimes self-destruct by accident. The spear gun will likely be ap3 and pointless with another "it's a pve game, guns don't need power to be fun" cope disclaimer. The AR is just another Cookout that you'll get very sick of very fast if you play a lot of bug lobbies (imagine, lmao). The grenade is a throwable ABRL and just like the support weapon version you'll mainly remember the moments when using it went wrong for you or a mate. The armor passive is shit. Throwing range is shit. You have a dozen mobility options now. Jump pack. Warp pack. Infusion stim. FRV. Your AT launcher and most of your other gear have practically infinite range. Just not enough need to throw things further. Damage reduction armors generally got pegged down severely in the meta when everything was made dadgamer compliant. Everyone wants siege ready and engineer for added offense since reinforcements usually don't become a concern. The only anti-damage armor people still respect is inflammable on incel bot dives. This warbond looks undeniably bad - other than the AR which is the complete opposite end of the spectrum and annoys you that way - you just have to be in complete denial to think otherwise.

>>537006613
>projects his gore fetish onto others
Bro I don't need a lion waifu, I have a real wife.
I just think lions are cool and I'm a cooler who's obsessed with anything female and not ugly as sin...

>>537012642
>Stay close to the Super Flag!
>Sending in the retrieval shuttle
>Breach! I repeat, breach!

>>537014108
well that's stupid enough so i can see it happening

>>537013796
I never really used Quasar because I thought it's gay and does nothing EAT doesn't. Typically I used a Railgun or EAT or Commando, but I warmed up to Epoch a lot.

>>537014447
Epoch is a heavy railgun in my mind.
I use only it and the basic railgun depending on how much heavy AT the team has.

>new warbond
>when the epoch is still pure shit that that I haven't seen in pubs since like a week after it dropped

>>537013915
Woah so it'll have 40 damage and need half the magazine to actually set shit on fire. Glorious.

>>537013658
It fits my playstyle because I'm in the midst of autistically farming exp to level all my weapons and I want my missions to be completed as quickly as possible. I'll just go off on my own and do my own thing and complete shit. TO be fair, almost every Level 150 does the same so I don't think you specifically need to use this loadout, I just like lobbing shit downrange and if OR's on cooldown, I still have 6 Ultimatums and/or 16 Thermites

I've come around to like the shotgun. Shame about the lack of choke, though. The magnum is beyond usefulness in my opinion.

>join D10 anything
>level 8 guy on open mic
time to disable crossplay again

>>537013868
Because you stats only show usage rate. It is definitely a jack of all trades weapon viable for most scenarios. That doesn't mean the majority of people will pick it all the time. Take a statistics course, nerd

>>537014554
I use the Epoch and I think it's good
Just enough AT damage to matter against heavies and just enough AOE to deal with groups of everything else makes it a good all-rounder.
You have better weapons for specific tasks in slot sure, and it is a bit annoying to use, but it works well enough foe everything to just pick if I don't have anything else in mind

>>537014872
>not enjoying the extra challenge
d10 are pretty boring if you have a semi decent team

>>537013915
Awesome, that means the damage will be low as fuck and have a small ass mag, plus fire dmg is still broken. Maybe they should fix that first before spitting out more shit

>>536999871
This trailer seems really poorly made, such a lack of energy. We've come a long way from them parodying the Taken fence clip

>>537014602
saar

>muh capture rate
Joel will use the Major Order to justify planets being capped. Any planet not controlled by SE will be taken because the Major Order made the enemies retreat to regroup their losses. XBOX players are killing Illuminate by the millions every hour which is great because all the vet players were "tired" of the faction. Veteran PC+PS players are busy genociding bots. The only one's losing ground are bugniggers.

>Bap a pred stalker with the halt on stun pretty much point blank
>Still bum rushing me and 3 hit comboing me to dead
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY BELOVED SHOTTY

>>537014897
You don't need a jack-of-all-trade weapons when you can easily cover all your bases with your loadout or with your team.

If all you're doing is shooting med armor shit or plugging holes you'll have far better returns with a GL and backpack since that not only lets you be carefree with ammo usage, but also ups your survivabilty, killing potential and speed since you now have 8 more stims, more ultimatums, more grenades, more rounds to shoot downrange while still keeping your mobility.

>>537014257
In order for damage reduction to work again, they'd need to deflate HP and Damage across the board for everything (incluiding helldiver weapons and strategems, but excluiding the helldiver healthpool) I dunno if they would be willing to do this. The other side is doubling helldiver health, but that would probably be even worse for the game's health than what we have now

>>537015276
they fucked up fire and stun and won't admit it

>>537015091
>MA5C immediately powercrept
Bravo swiggers

>>537014897
Your weapon is average at best and it's time you accept the truth, anon.

>>537015276
I was slam firing the Punisher last night and every Stalker I killed before it reached me still lunged to cover up 90% of my screen despite being a corpse. They're movement and lunges are not tied to them being alive it seems.

>>537015276
They "fixed" status effects for the control group update.

>>537015276
>>537015662
new flavour of host bug, this time it's proximity based
>>537000581

>>537015593
it'd have to have any power to be powercrept, it's a gun with poor ammo economy and the inability to aim precise shots, a golden combination for a turd, it just happens to be better than the other trash in the bond.

>>537014872
Do you have ASPERGERS or some mental retardation making you averse to hosting your own games? Just host your own games and kick every dumb nigger like the rest of us.

>>537013915
they really shouldn't be releasing medium pen weapons very often

>>537015662
>>537015526
Thought it was just gas and fire that got hit with the bug, it's over...

>>537015593
>new weapons are okay
>REEE WORTHLESS TRASH
>new weapons are best in their niche
>REEEE POWERCREEP
I rather avoid power creep. Nothing kills a game faster than seeing whales 24/7 performing better merely by rushing to buy the latest and greatest bullshit.

>>537015091
>Liberator damage and ROF
>Adjudicator recoil and capacity
Stats are probably placeholder, but I'm betting that it'll kill before it sets shit on fire.

>>537010442
>Now add reloading a dude with his own backpack to that list and start figuring out priorties.
Prompt to team reload only appears when the user is crouching and completely stationary. Team reload takes top priority during these circumstances.

>>537013868
>It still is being accepted as the overall best support weapon
lmao. Using backpack and support weapon slot for a chaff killer. Cute, but better stay in D6 and below.

>>537015593
it released powercrept since Reprimand and Adjudicator exist
but yeah if this thing in fact does a fucking 80 damage incendiary ap3 projectile and presuming the other ARs go unchanged medpen niggers will win all fronts full house total meta domination owari da gg no re what the fuck Alexus

>>537015428
It's not about what you need. It's about what a single person thinks is fun. Not everyone is autistic and wants to make the most perfect cohesive team loadout from numbercrunching autismo bullshit.

>If all you're doing is shooting med armor shit or plugging holes you'll have far better returns with a GL and backpack since that not only lets you be carefree with ammo usage, but also ups your survivabilty, killing potential and speed since you now have 8 more stims, more ultimatums, more grenades, more rounds to shoot downrange while still keeping your mobility.
Maybe they don't want to have to use a backpack slot to make a gun work. Maybe they want 3 offensive strats and 1 weapon. Maybe they want more range. Maybe they want to one-tap an alpha's head instead of using 3 grenades on it. Maybe they want to shoot nests, spores, bot holes, hulk backs, hulk eyes, etc... from FARTHER AWAY. Maybe they literally just want to use an autocannon to activate autocannon neurons in their brain. Why can't you understand this? You are the epitome of "stop liking things that I don't like wahhhhh :'(. Take your meds and let people enjoy their game... faggot

>>537014447
>does nothing EAT doesn't.
I've gone back and forth and tried both.
The main things QC does is range, precision, and not really making you juggle tubes and deployments, which is really nice for bots where you're often kinda falling back over time until everything dies, with a smaller note for it being free justifying extreme range potshots at whatever, even if it's a pretty low value target like a scout strider or fabricator. It's also really good for whipping out and downing a dropship or gunship on the other side of the map to support people from far away, where an EAT really can't make those kinds of shots reliably. Fukkin. Shooting down a dropship, so it drops a factory strider in the water and fucking dies is amazing, and I don't think an EAT could do that, even if it was only once.
It's a lot more reserved as far as support weapons go. You don't really need to do anything around it, it doesn't really ask anything, there's no needing to go back for your second tube, it's just kinda always there for when you need it, and works well enough against just about everything you need it to.
There's also some interesting synergy with the jump pack specifically, both in terms of being able to get up onto vantage points and snipe ffabricatorsor cannon turrets from across the map, as well as, you can start charging in the air, then aim properly once you land, if you're needing to suddenly escape a hulk or something, mitigating the short notice downsides of the QC.

It definitely misses some important damage thresholds though, especially against the tanks, which are a bit of a crapshoot sometimes.
Really, I think it's mostly a bot thing, as opposed to a qc specific thing. QC's niche strengths over EATs just shine on bots in general, and there's a smidge of synergy with the jump pack as well. I don't usually take either with my main loadouts outside of bots, SOMETIMES I'll do it for bugs, and EATs are probably better there, but by an even more marginal amount.

>>537015880
>it'll kill before it sets shit on fire
no shit, it'll handily dispose of heavies with that kind of power

>>537015879
I'd rather they try making brand new shit instead of the same tired "its what you already have but with this small change".
Control Group and the harpoon gun are good steps in that direction... for the most part. But I really don't wanna see them add even more basic ass assault rifles to the game.

>>537016006
THE CLAIM
>It still is being accepted as the overall best support weapon in less autistic parts of the community
THE COPE
>Because you stats only show usage rate. It is definitely a jack of all trades weapon viable for most scenarios
THE GOAL SHIFTING
>It's about what a single person thinks is fun. Not everyone is autistic and wants to make the most perfect cohesive team loadout from numbercrunching autismo bullshit.
kill yourself nigger.
t. AC enjoyer.

>>537015821
I think they increased the time-to-apply for any effect. Hence why the cookout or incel breaker now may not catch things on fire as before. Hitting something it the arc thrower may not stun it, like a charger. I literally sprayed at a flock of shriekers and none of them caught fire.

>>537015970
lousy bait, have a consolation (You)

>audibly makes the heavy armor CLANK while running
I can't wait to see how abdomera turns this into microbikini armor

>Throw down an extra AC on extract just in case I need another immediately and the resupply is still dropping
>Shredding chaffs on a breach with flak
>lv80 newcutie drops his diaper pack and go team reload me unprompted
>red skull x80
I... I don't want the newfrens to grow up and go into their hyper optimal solo roamer phase, bros...

>>537006614
Tell me about it, I lived in the Mojave desert for about a year with no internet.

>>537016289
>Hitting something it the arc thrower may not stun it, like a charger.
the arc thrower will always, consistently stun chargers (and hulks) with 2 back-to-back zaps. it's never a random amount.
>I literally sprayed at a flock of shriekers and none of them caught fire.
how far from the host were you

>>537016416
Did it make you wish for a nuclear winter?

>>537016220
>The claim
prove that everyone is accepting it as the best support weapon.... because I'm not seeing it here.
>the cope
that's not cope dumbass
>goal shifting
literally stating the facts

You are just unable to handle conversation without sperging out and using meme arguments when you're proven dumb. Do not reply to me anymore, retard. You are filtered

>>537015818
The average Hellretard hovering on 4 5 6 7's are brainless fucks who thinks everyone needs to bring a support weapon with Heavy Pen. They simply can't fathom the idea of bringing a support weapon suited for killing mounds of Demium armor chaff that's actually the biggest threats in D8, 9, 10.

Oh no, if there's a Hive Guard, Devastator, Walker, etc. it MUST be something your primary threat can deal with. Support Weapons are only for big bois like Bile Titans and Tanks etc.

You could release a light pen primary that has GOAT stats on everything else and the general community will still shit on it because MUH MEDIUM PEN

AutoCHAD deniers conveniently forget that popularity isn't the same as respect. Autocannon is goated. Makes bad loadouts good and good loadouts great. Everyone loves to watch and reload a good AC user who wrecks enemies in bulk. Two hundred dead fleshmobs in seconds is my favorite. Masses of dead spewers and heavy devs are as fun though.

>>537016174
>more basic ass assault rifles to the game
I blame whoever designed the Amendment. Making a precision weapon have a shitty spread because "muh bayonet and muh burst fire" was a terrible decision. Everyone hates the idea of a new precision weapon now.

>>536998039
i lol'd

>>537016449
>the arc thrower will always, consistently stun chargers (and hulks) with 2 back-to-back zaps. it's never a random amount.
it used to be one shot stuns, every time
>how far from the host were you
It shouldn't matter. That's the point. It's fucked right now. I'm not orbiting a host just to make swede jank work correctly

>>537015970
Who are you replying to? The image with low usage rates shows that only a small minority of autismos can't get over the fact taht the AC is meh at best.

>>537016006
This
I like using some of my slots for things I think are fun, not have to use something centrally effective in every slot.
I use the Eruptor, because then I can justify taking Thermite to deal with heavies since I have holes dealt with, entirely so I can take whatever support weapon sounds fun right now, regardless of if it's actually good.
I'm not taking the Eruptor because I necessarily want it specifically (I do like it), a lot of times I'm taking it because I want to dick around with other stratagems outside of sc farms on d3, and taking Eruptor + Thermite means, in practice, I have two stratagem slots I can do whatever the fuck I want with, regardless of if they're actually good or not, because the Eruptor covers so much shit incidentally.
Maybe I wanna take flame sentries because I want to see this dagobah ass planet burn. Maybe I want to take the portable hellbomb and automation sentry to get ye olde trebuchet working. Maybe I want to fucking harpoon a factory strider, bile titan, or harvester with the jetpack and the flag.

>epoch appeals to railgunfags
Why am I not surprised?

>>537016817
>it used to be one shot stuns, every time
only in full lobbies because the strength of the stun was being multiplied for every player in it. I ran solo or with 1 friend all the time and it always took 2 zaps for me to stun hulks and chargers. that was always the intended balance
>It shouldn't matter. That's the point.
you're right, it shouldn't. but it does, so if you're running off alone and still expecting your fire Dots to work despite fully knowing it needs host proximity for the time being that's on you

>>537016817
>Status doesn't work unless you're next to the host
>Get next to the host with the arc thrower
>Kill host with arc thrower
>Get kicked
Th-thanks AH

>>537016617
I was on Pred Strain bug Diff10 and I'm the only fella who brought a Stalwart+Punisher for chaff clear. I was mowing down pred-fucking-shits the whole mission while my teammates kept falling over with missing heads or blowing themselves up with AT at close range. One guy scored three separate team kill incidents in five minutes with Airburst Eagle, the maniac.

>>537015091
SWEDEN GODS, KEEP IT LIKE THIS AND MY SOUL IS YOURS!!!

>>537016617
>You could release a light pen primary that has GOAT stats on everything else and the general community will still shit on it because MUH MEDIUM PEN

>>537016617
If there was a light primary with enough damage to actually kill fleshmobs quickly we'd be in business.
The problem is the best way to kill Fleshmobs is still mostly antitank level shit

>>537017013
It basically a shitty railgun where your forced to go to 99% charge to do any damage, have no range and old reprimand spread, also a slow projectile
Now that I typed that out I realize that I don't understand why it would appeal to railgunfags, its the same thing but almost entirely worse

They should just double down on the dumb bouncing arc grenades and make them bounce twice what they do now.

>>537017216
it's look way cooler if they didn't connect the stock to the grip. Swedes literally make the dumbest looking guns

Do we have a booru yet? We should