Thread 537558112

Bakerless breads edition

Enlisted is the best squad-based World War II FPS currently, where you lead your squads of AI to their deaths, over and over. Sometimes, you come to /enlg/ to complain! Or on the forums if it's about muh Soviet bias.

>Official Site
https://enlisted.net/

>Roadmap
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/764-our-plans-en/

>Enlisted Community Resource
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13SXNYOfbfhFHYQ-DTNpLzTDtYdPaz0f-M4W3HyxKcxg/edit#gid=982720857

>Weapons List (Alpha)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTaMOPl_kdxg_-AXjr_iY5NTOGi0h3njjxevc0eOX0qzkkIMUsYJv8sUdc5icsYpE4v7IifU9ZRHy4C/pubhtml#

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>Liberation of Paris Event
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/liberation-of-paris/168119

>Current Event
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/946-reinforcements-received-aviation-en/#!/

>News
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/948-making-enlisted-a-better-place-71-en/#!/

>Enlisted abailable on Battlepass
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/947-enlisted-is-now-available-on-game-pass-en/#!/

>New Map Update "Forest Shadows"
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/update-forest-shadows/165288

>Current Battlepass: Sixth Season of 2025
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/battle-pass-sixth-season-of-2025/166878

Defeat: >>536617630

what did they mean by this

>>537558112 (OP)
This will be Active Matter general soon

>>537566651
I doubt it

Shovel upgrade path when

>>537569427
2026

>>537566651
you have have a game people want to play to have a general

What do we think about the last weapons changes ?
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/952-weapon-battle-rating-changes-en/#!/
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/948-making-enlisted-a-better-place-71-en/#!/
- GERMANY -
>rifle
Gewehr 98 with scope mount: BR changed from II to I.
- USSR -
>rifle
Mosin M91 "Infantry": BR changed from II to I.
>lmg
Gorov LMG increased base damage from 12 to 12.7
>smg
PPD 1929: BR changed from IV to III.
"Uragan" SMG: BR changed from II to III.
- OTHER -
Arisaka Mortar: removed time delayed fuze
Type A sword-pistol: increased sprint speed multiplier from 100% to 150% to be in line with other swords.
Tomahawk: increased the sprint speed modifier from 100% to 120%.
Lanciafiamme Mod.35: BR changed from V to IV..
Flamethrower portable No.2 Mk 1: BR changed from V to IV.

>>537576897
- JAPAN -
>rifle
Type Ko rifle: increased base damage from 11.2 to 11.7
Type Otsu rifle: reduced base damage from 11.6 to 11.5
Type Hei rifle (late): increased base damage from 11.6 to 11.7, BR changed from IV to III.
Type Hei Automatic rifle: increased weight from 4.9 to 6.7 kg
>smg
Type 100 SMG (early): increased base rate of fire from 450 to 700, increased weight from 3.8 to 4.2 kg, base damage reduced from 6.0 to 5.6, BR changed from I to II.
Type 100 Paratrooper SMG: increased base rate of fire from 450 to 700, increased weight from 3.8 to 4.3 kg, base damage reduced from 6.0 to 5.6, BR changed from I to II.
Type 100 SMG (late): base damage reduced from 6.0 to 5.6.
Tokyo Arsenal SMG: added semi-auto firing mode
Type 1 SMG: increased base rate of fire from 500 to 620
Type 2 SMG: increased base rate of fire from 600 to 750
Type 2a SMG: increased base rate of fire from 600 to 750, BR changed from II to III.
SIG 1920: changed caliber from 7.65 Parabellum to 7.63 Mauser, increased base damage from 5.5 to 5.7, increased weight from 4.2 to 5 kg
>lmg
Type 11 LMG: reduced recoil by 18%
Type 96 LMG: reduced recoil by 21%, increased weight from 9 to 9.3 kg
Type 97 LMG: increased weight from 12.4 to 16.2 kg, reduced sprint speed modifier from 50% to 45%
Type 99 LMG: reduced base rate of fire from 800 to 550, reduced weight from 12 to 10.6 kg, increased sprint speed modifier from 50% to 55%
KE7: increased weight from 8.2 to 9 kg
Te-4 MG: reduced recoil by 18%, increased weight from 9.3 to 14 kg, reduced sprint speed modifier from 50% to 45%
Type Hei LMG: reduced weight from 10 to 9.3 kg
Type 100 MG: increased weight from 16 to 20 kg, reduced sprint speed modifier from 50% to 40%, removed semi-auto firing mode, increased base rate of fire from 600×2 to 1000×2, improved accuracy to match other high BR machine guns

>>537576897
I like the type hei late being BR3 now, with the type 2 also being BR
almost makes BR3 viable, if not for BR2 and 5 taking up all my squads

I like the erma EMP and the beretta M31
I almost don't regret buying this pack

I like the dicker max because you can actually hop inside and use it as a retarded piece of cover unlike the SU-76

>>537576897
The M91 Infantry having its BR changed is hilarious because I think under 10 active players even have it in their inventories. It's arguably the single rarest thing in the entire game.

>>537581030
The EMP is a fun gun. Redundant but fun, and it looks kickass.

>Best guy on the enemy team starts getting some pushback at BR I
>Busts out his Matilda (he is the match's only down-tiered BR II by the looks of it, everyone else has BR I gear)
>Matilda is effectively unkillable without a HEAT launcher
>He farms a shitload of kills
>And loses terribly, his team burning 500+ tickets on the third cap without him after having success on the first few caps
I gotta say, playing only BR I gear with a focus on bolt actions against a guy who has powerful BR II gear and troops really fucking sucks. It didn't help that he would do things like shutter-step in and out of cover with his automatics while hosing down your squads. Now, for me, and probably most other people, that doesn't work since AI can (and will) track you through terrain and pop you in the quarter second you expose yourself, but it seemed to work a charm for him. He was good at the game besides that.

Not the best payout for such a large booster. Basically 30k silver since 224k XP converts to 4.5k silver.

>>537592437
BR1 getting uptiered to BR2 is the biggest pain that almost nobody talks about, probably because most people who stick with the game move on to BR2 equipment pretty soon, but going back to BR1 every now and then just to have pure bolties and then getting stuck with a bunch of guys running MG squads sucks
>no rallies because 75% of the players in the match aren't running an engie
>vehicles instantly deleted by uptiered AT equipment or vehicles
>some other guy who also went back to BR1 but it's just hogging the planes
>at least 3 players on the team staying back sniping

>>537596819
If we are going back to BR I we kinda deserve it since people go back to BR I for a relatively easy time, but newfags don't deserve to get dunked on. The power gap between BR I and II is similar to the power gap between IV and V, though not as bad, it's still pretty oppressive.

Making it so BR I can't up-tier would be disastrous and would kill the already tenuous BR II, but I dunno, maybe they could limit the amount of BR II players who can be in a BR I match, or make it so players under a certain amount of matches played can't be up-tiered? I still have a 575% booster active and wanna get some use out of it so I will probably play BR I again since that's where my most and favourite premiums are.

>hellfire rangers
>solid bolty squad
>solid tank squad
>solid subgun squad
>decent semi-auto squad

damn, that's a good bundle

>>537598280
It's not terrible but the G30M is a bit... meh. The squad is "fine", I guess. Back when full-caliber, high damage semi-autos weren't ubiquitous it was better, and the Americans are getting the Kretz semi-auto soon enough, which does full damage despite being in .276. The UD M42 is surprisingly good despite my initial impressions of it (I used it in the bundle preview) and the Moroccan squad is a pure meme.

The M24 is really fucking good.

>>537598761
I've already got the M24 and love it so the rest is kinda tempting for how discounted it is but I don't feel like getting it
maybe next update if I feel like throwing away money for pixels again

>>537577091
Both gold order heis are still worse than the Type 4

>>537599109
The Moroccans went from fun to powerful with the knife buff. They are great for defending since you can spam down 9 mines, then get them to hold the cap while you run around with your knife out from position to position and healing yourself to full every time.

>>537599218
This is true, but they are also extremely easy to use. The Type Hei (Late) has laser beam accuracy for a semi-auto. The Hino is definitely better but there's something "off" about it I can't place. Whenever I use it, I feel like my bullets just miss. Dunno, maybe I am a shitter.

>>537599404
>The Hino is definitely better but there's something "off" about it I can't place.
You're supposed to use horizontal reduction

>>537599610
It's not the recoil, the shots just seem to miss, even though it has just about standard dispersion.

>>537599218
I... disagree, personally
I genuinely prefer the hei to the type 4, the type 4 has a piss reload even though they allegedly made 10 round clips for it

>>537599986
It's the damage. Damage is huge on a semi auto and the Type 4 has more while other differences are comparably insignificant.

>>537600093
This is true, the Type 4 also has less horizontal recoil than it appears to due to hidden modifiers, like how the Otsu has literally 0 actual recoil (or used to?).

>>537600093
I prefer the sight picture of the Heis over the type 4, ironically in spite of the toggle lock constantly shoving its bolt in your picture

>>537589301
What was that equivalent to? The box Springfield and trench k98?

>>537598280
buy a banner gayjew

>>537597093
Eh, I feel it depends on each faction, but yeah, it's mostly newbies so if I want to keep in low tiers I mostly stick to BR2
For BR1, allies is doing a public service to the 2 new guys who are actually pushing the objective and need whatever help they can get
Soviet and axis I feel are a mixed bag, I noticed constant BR2 uptiers in your and the enemy teams, so by sticking to BR1 you're just handicapping yourself, although I guess new players who are playing their first matches as soviets because they're the default faction will appreciate having rally spawns, I know I did when I first started playing
Japan I have no idea, never even played them besides last month's event, but by the reputation they have and seeing they only face western allies rn, I assume their BR1 is the most sealclubbing of the lot

>>537603373
Yeah, it's just a Mosin that deals 32 damage, which is crazy, but it also fires at 48 RPM. I'd kill someone for a chance to get the Trench, Air Service and Infantry. I would even paypig for a set of them. Unfortunately the SAS has meh sights. The Kar and Mosin are fine.

>>537605727
BR I Japan used to be consistently good, then it became absurdly overpowered, now it's shitty. It's a bit bizarre.

Is it just my computer just randomly deciding to perform better or is the game smoother?

The average Soviet player is pretty bad, but they are also popular with totally legit and cool Chinese players who make up for that.

>>537609403
Also in this match I swear I counted like 5 separate incidents where my body armour saved me.

this new spitfire is nuts wtf. this thing could hang at br5

>>537621027
In War Thunder it is BR 5.7, so it's a BR IV-V vehicle.

NEWS!

https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/953-new-engineer-structures-shovel-destructable-buildings-upgrade-paths#!/

lol

Sim city fags on suicide watch

Holy fuck the Lanchester Model 1 is so bad holy FUCK.

>>537634913
Its actually really good with ass4s

>>537635606
It's absolutely not. The recoil is fucking bananas in both directions. If you take horizontal, it flies up your screen. If you take vertical, it jitters around like crazy. Even WITH horizontal, it jitters around like crazy because it still has 8 fucking horizontal recoil after reductions. It's like a worse M1928A1 Thompson, and nobody uses the M1928A1 because it's so fucking uncomfortable. All it really has going for it is crazy high ADS speed. Its recoil direction stat is also really low, which sounds great, but it's not 0, so what happens is it pulls left and right in a snake pattern at random, which is nearly impossible to account for compared to a high recoil dir stat in either direction, which either pulls left or right! When I switch to it, I immediately have to adjust and change how my mind functions, there's always that period of "oh god oh fuck".

>>537636672
Dat ADS speed do be crazy dough. Admittedly this is with +20% stacked on but dang it's instant.

>>537636672
>bitching about 8 horizontal
It's a hip fire monster and is fine out to mid range if you tap fire. It's a good point blank assaulter weapon. The only option that's clearly superior to it is the 30 Thompson which is a meaningless comparison because that is better than everything the allies get at 3

>>537649747
8 hori WITH reduction, coupled with a low-but-not-zero recoil dir stat means the damn thing flies randomly left and right, even when hipfiring. It's not even better than the M1928A1 Thompson which has higher DPS, counters Vit, lower recoil, and a nearly instant reload even on empty that can be dropped to 1.2 seconds even with horizontal reduction.

Ironically, saying the hipfire of the Lanchester is an advantage is completely nullifying its singular noteworthy positive trait: the nearly instant ADS that makes it useful for snapfiring indoors. It is a gun that trades all versatility to be pretty good at something that basically every SMG at its BR is also adequately good at, similar to the OVP and Beretta M1918, but even more extreme. That extra 100 ROF over the Thompson does not make it worthwhile, especially since that advantage is nullified against Vitality targets outside of 10 meters anyway.

>>537651203
Actually the M1918 is a good comparison because it has a higher ROF with lower recoil, 0 recoil direction which means it pulls STRAIGHT UP, and a faster hot reload, similar empty reload, and basically just trades 7 rounds of mag capacity and ADS time. And nobody uses the M1918 because it's too difficult for most people.

>>537651829
Oh and it has a bayonet (reducing recoil a bit more!). I think I was wrong about the reload though.

>>537651203
I use it just fine, there is zero reason to ADS up close as it just deletes everything in a cone of fire. It's a nice variety weapon at BR3 if you dont care for the Thompson or Lan 50. The extra MV makes it better at range than the Thompson too if you have even the smallest ability to control recoil and not just hold down the trigger. Sounds like you have a skill issue if you are having this much trouble bursting down enemies. The Erma (S) used to and probably still should have a 16/16 recoil stat and it was very strong then too.
Bitching about single digit horizontal is the kind of outrageous minmaxing spreadsheet I-need-the-game-to-play-itself-ism that I have no respect for whatsoever. Learn how to tap fire

>>537652193
>Look, if you just use it badly, in ways you don't have to use other SMGs, and ignore its actual advantages then it's actually fine
Bizarre contrarianism. You should be using the Beretta M1918 at BR III, since it's the better weapon in every way besides mag size. Why would I ever "tapfire" my SMG when I can just not zoom in with my 1928A1 Thompson while holding LMB and wipe an entire squad in two seconds?

I know a lot of people struggle with this, but: something you like can be ineffective or bad. You can enjoy it, but that doesn't make it competitive or good. Killing enemies at point blank 10ms faster in exchange for being significantly worse in every other way is your prerogative.

>>537653014
It's very funny to be filtered by basic trigger discipline. There isn't really any firearm designed for an all or nothing mag dump and this game replicates that authentically. The solution to weapons with actual recoil is to use them appropriately.

I know you struggle with this, but you don't get to be the arbiter of what is effective or bad. Those are value judgements dependent on individual skill levels and preferences. When you are combing through the resource looking at numbers you are making value judgements based on how you like to play the game. Weapons that have trade offs you don't like may feel right at home in another's hands.

There are very few weapons that are absolutely irredeemable. Even the delisle feels kind of good after the buff it received

>>537654029
>The solution to weapons with actual recoil is to use them appropriately.
Or, you know. Use something better that isn't notoriously bad? Also, bringing up the EMP is insanely disingenuous because its STAT CARD (!!!!!) recoil was 16/16, which meant it was actually 8/8, which meant it was actually 8/5 with horizontal reduction, while firing 30% slower than the Lanchester, and coupled with a 0.6 recoil dir, which meant it just pulled hard right, making it EXTREMELY easy to pull onto target.

>Weapons that have trade offs you don't like may feel right at home in another's hands.
I... I guess you can keep using your Lanchester Model 1 as a really bad PCC with unremarkable hipfire instead of taking advantage of its actual singular advantage if that makes you feel better or special for using something notoriously obnoxious to use? I am gonna keep my Lanchester equipped because it's neato, and I like using it for variety, but that won't ever make it anything other than a curio that fluctuates between "oh thank God I am in a position to use this properly for once" and "oh cool my SMG is a glorified Hi-Power here".

Again: you should use the M1918 at BR III, since it's better than the Lanchester in every conceivable way besides mag size.

>>537654561
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. They should give the De Lisle a 3x damage headshot modifier so it has a niche for people who are good at snap shots. You are right in the sense that a lot of guns are usable, the truly "bad" guns are ones that just feel annoying or weird to use. For a lot of people, that's the ZH-29 with its negative recoil direction, or top-loading guns.

Tourist here. The fuck do you people do for silver gains? I average 3-7k score on my recent entry into BR3 and goddamn, do I need to grind the next six months and or sell a kidney to upgrade to the next tier of soldiers and guns?

>>537656426
Buy premium time on sale.
Use boosters effectively.
That's all you can do.
Premium squads are generally hit or miss, and most people will tell you to not upgrade to the next tier until you have unlocked all the "key" items and upgraded the necessary squads by arming them with lower tier gear and playing them at a lower BR.

>>537656572
So it's put out or get out? Not unexpected for a "f2p" I guess. Alright man, thanks.

>>537657357
You can slowly grind up but it will take a while. The only things actually worth buying in this game are premium time (20 bucks yearly) and like 2 squad slots for each nation on sale.

so like, the progression is I>II>III>V?
IV takes too much silver and you fight V anyways?

>>537660807
Yeah, you can mostly not bother playing IV for now. Some IV gear is okay like the Kiraly for tankers or pilots.

>>537660807
I like IV, and it's competitive enough with BR5
unless you're american or russian and dealing with KTniggers

What a pain it is to level Jap Tanker squads. The lack of machine guns, the tanks prioritising the machine gunner position, coupled with the reload makes me want to tear my hair out

>>537670106
At least they made the upgrade costs more reasonable?

>>537670106
your ho-i?

>>537673438
Even the Ho-I suffers the Hull MG problem, which is prioritised over the fucking LOADER.

When will the T-28 get the hull MG mechanics that Japan has

>>537674269
doesn't the T-28 have bugged machine gunners that always shoot no matter how alive or dead they are?

>>537674269
>>537674383
Yeah, they are phantoms. They are also kinda the only really notably good thing about the T-28 and nerfing them would make it a realistic death trap.

>>537674383
Yes

>>537654974
I literally have no issue running the Lan 1 as a spawn next to the point and blitz squad complementary to my Lan 50 squad which I use for longer range work. I prefer it over the Thompson for its sights, MV, and fugly britishness. I have used the 1928 in its place and wasn't impressed. Coming back to the Lan 1 on ass4s after not using it for awhile legitimately feels like it was stealth buffed. Many weapons with lots of spread or scatter feel really good laying down a wide cone of death in room to room engagements and the Lan 1 is a principle example. It's basically a BR3 obrez and is excellent in that capacity. The comparison to the 1918 is poorly made because these weapons should be considered in context of the factions available equipment not whatever statistical similarity you are fixated on. Would I rather have a ppsh? Sure I guess? But the Lan 1 is basically ppsh at home and can be used well in that niche. If you want to play the weapon like something it isn't that is on you.

The delisle can tear ass at BR1 if 1) you have good aim 2) you are in a low profile position on the flank or behind the enemy. Double tapping is trivial with its RoF and the standard ammo pool is obscene which is great for BR1 crowd control. The damage buff and fixed sights helped it quite a bit also. It's one of the higher skill weapons in the game but not the garbage rod it formerly was. I wouldn't be opposed to another damage buff but it would be obscenely OP in a good players hands with that kind of change.

>>537677368
>I wouldn't be opposed to another damage buff but it would be obscenely OP in a good players hands with that kind of change.
This is already true of the M1 Carbine and the BP pistol carbines.

>>537664898
BR4 sucks cock stop trying to trick newfags, an absolute waste of time and resources for new players and they will just bounce off the game

>>537677897
We're not all the same person, I only advocate BR4 for people with a lot of BR4 event and premium toys.

>>537677568
And now remove bot aggro at BR1 lol

>>537678032
And yet you're shilling it as competitive to a newfag with presumably none of that

>>537678101
If you can pop headshots from like 20-30 meters away with an M1 or pistol carbine then bots aren't really gonna react fast anyway.

>>537678292
I'm not him, but you clearly think that he's me

>>537678389
Motherfuckers don't know that I'm him

>>537678356
Absolutely not true. They will automatically face unsuppressed gunfire and dome you if you aren't behind cover

>>537678771
FALSE: this only happens to me and NOT to other players. Source: every match where some guy stands perfectly still out in the open slowly mowing my troops down with a Grease Gun.

>>537678389
>respond to a post replying to someone else without clarifying NTA on an anonymous image board
>get hung up on not being the same person like it at all matters in anyway
You are fucking stupid lol. BR4 is worthless for non paypigs, non oldfags, or anyone without an optimized line up. Those without shouldn't bother, and any anon shilling it without that disclaimer can catch this reply

Consider the following: the FNAB-43 should have its ROF increased to 730 RPM + 15% (its IRL max ROF was 840) and have its accuracy reduced and its recoil increased, and bump it up to BR III since nobody fucking uses it. Or just do the same and give it really shitty accuracy and keep it at BR II as a contender against the PPS-43. As it exists, it's both ahistorical and a massive noob trap. Basically, it should be a tree equivalent of the MAS-38.

>>537677897
oh no you'll be forced to use tigers, panthers, MG42s, good submachine guns, and the best semi-auto rifles
you'll be made to use the jumbo! and the horrible, no good T-34-85! you'll have to use nothing but the DT-29 and the 76 shermans! the horrors!

aside from autorifles and tanks, BR4 is fine even without event weapons and squads

>>537679909
There are very few players masochistic enough to enjoy reliable uptiers to get farmed by autorifles, jets, and heavy armor, while themselves being limited to much weaker options. Getting thrashed by worse players with broken equipment sucks ass. You are delusional for thinking otherwise

>>537680756
Sounds like a skill issue

>>537677368
>The comparison to the 1918 is poorly made because these weapons should be considered in context of the factions available equipment not whatever statistical similarity you are fixated on
Except it's not. They fill the same niche. The other SMGs that the Germans have at BR III are the Beretta (accurate, big mag, lower rate of fire) and the ZK-383 (smaller mag, higher ROF, also super accurate actually). In this context, the 1918 would fill the same niche the Lanchester does: extremely high ROF. They have the same niche within their trees. Arguably the 1918 fills it better since it has a MUCH higher ROF than the ZK, while the Lanchester only has a slightly higher ROF than the Thompson (I'd argue the 1918 is a better gun than the Lanchester in general, but that's neither here nor there). Laying down a hipfire "cone of death", especially with a gun that flies from side to side like the Lanchester, is also a really, really terrible strategy compared to snap shooting or just using your damn sights. Hell, if we wanna talk about hipfire, even the M1928A1 Thompson has more accurate and reliable hipfire accuracy, which is compounded by the fact that it has higher damage, meaning that a leg shot + a body shot against a vitality-using target is a guaranteed down, whereas the same isn't true of the lower damage Lanchester Model 1, which against a Vitality using target would require 2 legshots and a bodyshot or a bodyshot and 2 legshots to kill, completely negating its ROF, which is its ONLY advantage besides ADS speed, which... we aren't using.

I find the idea of taking a gun with a singular distinct advantage (ADS speed) and totally dismissing it extremely bizarre. I cannot really stress to people who haven't used it how much the bullets from the Lanchester just fucking fly everywhere when hipfired.

>>537679909
>Aside from needing to endure [THE MOST COMMON OVERPOWERED AND OPPRESSIVE THINGS AT BR V], BR IV is fine!
Is everyone smoking crack today?

>>537681021
Get fucked faggot taking a position with "the best semi autos" like the ZH against fuckers with T20s in the windows is a dogshit experience. The power gap is too large. But sure spawning a helpless jumbo against a king tiger is a "skill issue" if you are a disingenuous cock sucker

>>537681305
>bodyshot and 2 legshots to kill,
I meant "a legshot and two bodyshots". I guess my ultimate point is that, if your position is:
>it shoot fastlier, it mean it goodlier for hipfire :)

Then you really SHOULD be using the 1918, since it shoot fastlier. Even fastlier than the BR II tree options. The gap in shooting fastlier between the ZK and the Beretta 1918 is bigger than the gap between the Thompson and the Lanny.

>>537681627
Wrong person again. I cycle MG-45, MG-42 Early, and Mauser MKbs when I have to try.

fighting BR5 as BR4 is barely any different than getting bullied by shermans and P38s s a BR2 german, except your AT guns can somewhat reliably pen KTs at least

>>537681305
We seem to be talking past each other here. My point is that the spread (inaccuracy) of the Lan 1 is an asset for squad wiping rooms at point blank range. I'm talking about ranges where hip fire accuracy is actually a negative attribute as you will get killed by a bot before you can cycle through all the targets huddled in the corner of a room. The mobility on a ass4 means you can just press a position and tear it up before the enemy can react. The 1918 is a different class of weapon with its laser hip fire spread and as I said a better comparison would be to the obrez, another stockless SMG. Sure the fast ads is helpful for hitting the stragglers at the far side of the room but the best way to use the weapon is to get in close and unload into a crowd before they can react, again just like the obrez. It's a highly specialized and therefore situational SMG but it is very viable when played correctly. Try it some time if you don't believe me.

>>537681776
>that's not me haha owned!
Who cares you insipid retard
>I'm a sweaty paypig who quits every uptier
No one asked you south park faggot

>>537681634
I can't give the 1918 to my British assault squad though

>>537682939
I carry every uptier, hence
>skill issue

>>537682472
>Reliably pen KTs
What? If you mean handheld AT, then no? You have to aim for the turret face, which is extremely fucky thanks to the gun mantlet (while also being a tiny target), and is not likely to do much damage anyway. The Panzerfaust 100 can, in theory, pen the UFP, but only from a very advantageous angle. The BR V AT structures get APDS, which can work, but... you know. It's APDS. It's like shooting needles that do no damage. Also:

>muh sherman muh p-38
Buddy, the P-38 is basically a non-issue after the M8 nerfs and can be shot down by an AA gun that takes two seconds to build, and Shermans can be killed by the GrB-39, as can T-34s and KV-1s. Keep in mind that at BR II the Germans get a Ju-87 D-5 with 2x20mm and 450kg of bombs.

>>537682709
Being so close to someone that hipfire accuracy is a negative is how you get bayonet stabbed.

>>537683287
Then you should be giving it to your Italians when you play BR III.

>>537683404
>I don't quit, I carry every game I ever played
I don't believe you, and the ego some of you morons get from farming bots, children, and thirdies is insane.
>not wanting to play everything optimally and abuse adhd meds to enjoy a videogame is a skill issue
Blow it out of your ass you fat sperg with a cringe handle

>>537684076
>you're not that good, I know you quit half your matches
>also I'm a casual and you obviously take stimulants to be this good
make up your mind

>>537684494
Sweatfags still quit retard
And yes the world is awash in chemical stimulants morons abuse and fry their brains with

And if not slavishly following the meta makes me a casual then so be it. I play this game to use obscure weapons, not pretend it's esports

>Paradivision keeps calling Japan the "weakest faction" and insists the Soviets are "way stronger"
>Says Japan post-buffs and BR changes is "worse" than it was before, even though all that really changed was the Type 100 (Early) moving to BR II and the Type 2a moving to BR III, which is more like an arbitrary reshuffling than anything else
Is he ever right about anything anymore? Like, the Type 100 and Type 2a are still, you know, monstrously strong at their BRs?

>Bitches about the Panzer III N being "unplayable" even though it shits out 115mm HEAT shells that are more powerful than HE shells against infantry and are able to penetrate every tank it faces with ease every 2 seconds while also having 80mm of hull armour and being superior to the T-34 in every way
Jesus fuck. He also implied the Type 100, post-buff, was "harder to control" despite having almost no recoil and basically being a laser beam drill. Fuck me.

>>537683602
My shitaly assmen are at BR1&2 and I have no room in germ BR3 anyway. I've always liked the 1918, enough to buy the old Moscow premium twice, so I run it at 2 occasionally

>>537685067
Also:
>Says the Type 2a is "bad at close range" and "good at long range" despite its core issue being that it has terrible damage drop off
>Says the Thompsons are "better at close range" even though the advantage of the Thompson is that it retains damage over distance

He's actually just a fucking delusional retard, I want to scream at him and call him a moron to his face. Holy fuck.

>>537685350
Find out where he lives and yell at him. Someone used to post the quadro dox here lol

>>537679909
without a severe autorifle nerf it will always be a dead BR no matter how much shit they shovel into it

>>537685350
>>537685647
I am still mad:
>Says the G98 Sniper only has "a little more damage" than the Kar 98k
>It has 4.9 more damage
>Meaning it retains the ability to have a guaranteed one-shot-kill against targets FAR further than the Kar 98 Sniper, including Vitality targets
>Doesn't even mention how the real issue with the G98 is that it has a weak as fuck scope compared to the Kar
>Cries about the poor German snipers needing to reload shots one-by-one, even though that's STANDARD
>AND THE GERMANS GET A CLIP LOADING BR I SNIPER ANYWAY (THE SHORT CARCANO)
>THE GERMAN SINGLE SHOT RELOADS AREN'T EVEN AS BAD AS THE MOSIN'S FUCK AWFUL RELOAD (BUT RUSSIA OP BTW)
The only thing he is right about is that the PPS-43 is better than the Uragan, but he doesn't even specify why and isn't even aware that using the PPS dual wielded with an Uragan is significantly better than dual wielding PPS variants.

Implying the Type 100 (Early) was in any way acceptable as a BR I gun is so fucking retarded and disingenuous. He also implied the Americans are the strongest nation right now, but I cannot imagine what metric makes that true. The Thompson at BR II... I guess? If we look exclusively at tree stuff then the Germans are better at BR I, III, IV and V, and the Russians are arguably better at BR I, III, IV and V too.

>>537685067
I really cannot stress how retarded it is to call the Type 100 (Early) with its current stats "bad" at BR II when it's a better weapon than the supposedly overpowered PPS-43.

>>537684879
I've got the StG-45M, MG-39, and Fliegerfaust squads ready to screw around in downtiers. But the aforementioned trio are what I need in an uptier.

I have yet to use the fliegerfaust for anything other than harassing one specific dude every now and then

>>537686864
you could maybe make an argument for BR5 with the meteor being at least as oppressive as the T2H and situationally more so but its kind of a stretch with how mutt teams actually are in general

>>537688271
When you get the opportunity it’s great fun. Feels amazing when you kill planes. You can wipe clustered points, you can take out APCs.

>>537687574
K man you can sweat your premshit lineup against majority uptiers awash in autorifles but don't tell anyone they have a skill issue for wanting to avoid the enlisted equivalent of flattening your dick with a hammer. Literally any other BR has a higher chance of being enjoyable

>>537693367
I downtier all the time. US has a lot of BR3 players.

I take it back, BR4 kinda sucks

>>537656426
>dat silver grind
you werent here in 2024. you have no idea how bad it used to be

>they didn't buy shares in the next big WWII game
it's over for enlisted

>>537701707
Huh?

>>537701707
>ass rain
lol lmao even

Komet

>>537701707
That nigga got some nice veneers for a man born in 1920.

Why do the Japs, Americans and Bongs have such boring customisation still?

>>537566651
Launching 2 months before Tarkov 1.0 lol

Berlin maps are actually pretty fun in low br games

>>537720747
They are way better than Normandy maps, which are often nightmarish and entirely predicated on the attacking team having access to extremely high firepower to break through stalemates. A lot of the maps have points that are easy to defend, but also fall apart to fast ambushes due to their small size, and are also vulnerable to some HVARs or bombing runs.

>>537720747
Yeah I can use my Lebel Volksturm without feeling guilty for my teammates.

>>537721115
All Normandy maps should have secondary objectives to trigger smoke barrage or alternate spawns

>>537721820
ALL maps should have secondary objectives that change the battlefield or give more tickets.

>>537721958
Nah there are maps where ticket drain is pretty finely tuned putting the airfield balloon mechanic in more would fuck things up

>>537722469
It could even just be something like the defenders have some logistics trucks parked off to the side that can be blown up for 50 tickets, or there is an artillery emplacement you can repair that can be used to call in smoke or WP on and around the point as attackers.

>>537726461
YOU WORTHLESS COCKROACHES

DIE you RAT!

That last cap on Ver-ser-Mur (South) is so fucking absurd to take as attackers. The defenders can just sit a tank or two (or three if they have the APC with the 75) in the little valleys and shell into the cap and make it effectively impossible to take. It's retarded. You legit just have to click every few seconds and get a free 4-10 kills.

>Gaijin nerfs the Type 99's ROF to make it a shittier Type 96 for... some reason
Just stick a fucking scope on it! Then people might use the piece of shit!

>>537737417
I had been wondering if after that change it dropping to BR2 would be justified. I still haven't tried it after the change.

>>537738195
Post-change it's just a Type 96 with a bit more damage (kinda redundant since it's a 2 shot kill on Vitality anyway?) and actual recoil, since the 96 has no recoil and is a laser beam. The Japs don't need another BR II MG, but giving a scope to the Type 99 would at least give it a niche.

Holy fuck dealing with the M4A3 as the Japs on the old Pacific maps is such a fucking nightmare. It's fine on Myansera but trying to snipe the thing with your shitty AT launchers at 200 meters is horrible.

>>537701707
There's been dozens of them by now though

I sleep for 10 days

is there any reason to use the 34/38

>>537656426
You got the spared the worst

https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/sent-back-for-revision-almost-ready-silver-economy-improvements/146121?page=17

>no news
dead gayme

>>537721769
I took my Lebel boys out for a spin recently too, and I must say the rifle feels very stable. You easily get into a good shooting rhythm using it. It's all at once easy, fun, relaxing, and effective.

Nobody has said jack about the Zwilling BF109 yet! How do the four 30mm cannons work? Do they shoot HE like the Fw 190's?

>>537792554
The bomb is very hard to aim and 4 is a dead BR. Both the 9 spitfire and meteor shit all over it and they are ever present. I dont think there are any 30mm without HE. It's good at strafing the ground but is heavily dependent on the enemy being in an open field and you knowing exactly where to shoot. It should be BR3

>>537798260
>I dont think there are any 30mm without HE
But I could swear my ground strafes with the Schwalbe are less potent than my strafes with the Dora

>>537798527
I have no idea how you could possibly think that, the 262 has 3 more in the nose with much more ammo, maybe you are firing too late and not compensating for drop with the slimmer strafing window on a faster plane. The cannons on the Z are much more spaced out than the nose mounted ones on the other two so you should get used to spray and pray if you intend to use it

>>537792554
I already posted about it. It eats bomber waves alive, has great spread for strafing on the ground, and overall has a pretty potent armament in the air. But it doesn't fly well, it's in the same squad as the Jabo, and generally only excels in niche meme categories instead of overall performance.

damn
I forgot to finish the tasks that one event and missed out on one liberator

we need more BR1 rewards and BP weapons

>>537814314
I wanna try the Berdan, and the OP 20-round Mauser Mkb

I like the UD M42 but I don't want to pay for the UD M42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9biXcX6IZ8

guys Me Adminral Starks just referred to the Eva troon as "him" xD

That freak isn’t even worth discussing

can't enlisted get a good content creator
surely one of the namefags knows how to edit a video

>YOOOO WHATSUPGUYS ITS YOUR BOY HUXBOX BACK AGAIN WITH ANOTHER ENLISTED VIDEO
>*2 minute intro
>TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE PLAYING AS BR2 GERMANY
>AS YOU CAN SEE I'VE GOT A 10 SQUAD LOADOUT HERE WITH PERFECTLY ROLLED SOLDIERS AND META WEAPONS
>I'M GONNA FIND THE NOOBIEST NOOBS TO SWEAT ON
>SIT BACK AND RELAX AND ENJOY THE SHOW

do me now do me now!

>*video opens with blue-haired vtuber character in the corner of the screen*
>heeeeeeeeey senpaitachi its lolispats here :3
>i'm gonna be playing as Japan today! yay!
>ugghhh they got nerfed again
>oh well imma do my best!
>thanks for liking and subscribing guys!

>>537764361
Heh.

>>537824418
we don't talk about the academy anon

>>537820725
>>537822106
>>537822848
thanks for being so brave in showing your mental illness just to bump a dead general

>>537822848
I've never believed japan was nerfed at any point honestly

>>537815840
>fat white faggot
>speaks like a dudebro nigger

>>537820725
I look like this and say this but I haven't been playing BR II lately. Mostly I and III.

Man people get really fucking mad when you use the Sniper Enfield. It just sets them off. Understandable since it's the only decent sniper in the game, but still. I had someone call artillery on my position instead of using it to defend the cap.

>>537835183
It’s really fun when the game isn’t dependent upon me and I can melee grey zone snipers to death with guerillas and take their guns

>>537837406
Oh fuck that reminds me, in a match I lost, a guy came over the hill trying to knife me and got blasted by my squad just before he reached me. I could hear his knife and everything. I will see if I can find it.

>>537837406
>>537837994
Got it. It's crazy to me that my bots swung around and shot him when he was crawling with a knife out.

>>537838771
I thought the knife was silent how did he get detected? is there a bot pov?

Iron Cross Legion "Deal".

>Orita
Good. Low-recoil gun with comical mobility so you can turn them into super fast assaulters that can place a rally point in the most ideal positions extremely early.

>M/28
REALLY good holy fuck. Easily one of the best BR I bolt actions, if not THE best. All the damage of a Mosin (the only good thing about them) with better accuracy, better sights, and a better rate of fire.

>Panzer III M
Absolute assfucker at BR II. Effectively has the armour of a KV-1 with a decent gun for anti-infantry that is also good against tanks while being nearly undeadable if you just angle your hull.

>G41 (Sniper) squad
Effectively unusable. Absolute pile of shit.

They could have made it any other squad and I would be tempted, but... nope. I don't want that piece of shit. Really sucks. They coulda put basically any other squad in there and I would have genuinely considered dropping 60 bucks, but the Sniper G41 is just SO bad. Semi-auto snipers are arguably the single worst class of primary weapon in the game, and the G41 is the worst of the semi-autos.

>>537849204
The bot happened to be facing the right direction at the right time, but it seems to turn around and kind of face his direction a solid 10 seconds before he crests the hill, then it snaps to him and freaks out for a little bit about a second after he climbs over. I genuinely think the bot "heard" him before it saw him, despite his crouching.

>>537849986
>>537849204
Watching it back from the bot perspectives, all the bots besides the Engineer bot kinda snap around to watch that direction at the same time, 10 seconds before he appeared, meaning they heard him from VERY far away.

>>537849986
I love the spastic quadruple take. AI truly is the future.

they really need to stop bots from aimbotting you through the foliage. bastogne is such cancer to play because bots constantly fucking beaming you through the bushes

>>537855448
They already made foliage have SOME effect. Bots used to snipe you from 400 meters away on The Pacific.

>Take a shot at a downed guy with my Liberator
>Like 10 meters away
>Bullet flies off and misses him
>Finish him off by swapping to and reloading my primary
Well, okay.

Maus

sex with comet

>>537855448
Which map is bastogne? Mountain pass and dominant height clearly aren't

>>537766763
Major have played just 2 matches of Enlisted last month. He has no time for old busted and out of fashion games like Enlisted. Little Timmy should preorder one of those packs.

>>537792554
>How do the four 30mm cannons work? Do they shoot HE like the Fw 190's?
They are identical to me262 but with over less ammo in reserves. There are zero reason to pick it over me262

>>537878116
The CM doesn't decide when news gets posted dumbass

>>537878225
Well the 262 has 4 on the nose, this has four far more spread out cannons so you get some really good ground coverage with it on a strafe. It’s obviously not better that’s why it’s a full BR lower.

>>537881286
I hope this isn't all.

>>537881286
>>537882046
>Silver chests getting BP gear
Fucking wew. Can't wait to get a huge pile of De Lisle.

>>537882046
I wasn’t expecting a huge update now, they save the big stuff for December.
>>537882282
I like how they act like it’s a better deal putting more weapons in at the same drop rate when now the weapon pool is going to be even more bloated with crap.

>>537882475
The pool is going to have BP skins for reserve vehicles and BP soldiers too. You will be able to trade your BP soldiers for silver too, but I dunno why anyone would do that. I'd trade some of my garbage hero soldiers from Twitch drops.

>>537882619
I think they meant sell the old BP soldiers so you can earn them again with max stats from the box. I might as well do that. Going to do it one at a time so I can get the riflemen first though.
Do we have a list of what soldiers are from Twitch drops so I know to hang on to them? Off the top of my head there is the Jap MG Onoda that surrendered 30 years later and the Enemy at the Gates snipers.

>>537882282
9 man delisle troopers at BR1 would be lots of fun

>>537881286
>Japan attacker
Thank fucking God. I do not care in the slightest that it gets 2x60kg if it means I can even somewhat contest the air when the fighter slot is filled by a worthless idiot

>>537881286
Where Manchuria?

>>537886495
On the back burner like all the other shit the retards in this general believed would be surprise added

>>537824418
I wish I had a video showcasing those old mechanics. I need to see the weapon gacha again

>>537855448
>Interaction with vegetation was reworked too: bushes will no longer block shells and bullets, while the canopy of trees and bushes will have a greater impact on the AI soldiers’ vision.
Your word is law, anon

>>537886495
Mark it on your calendar. December 15th 2025

>>537890661
>just like they said ai would follow orders better
>just like they said ai will be better at pathing
>just like they said ai would not get in your way while building
more potato nigger lies

>>537881286
>Churchill 7
neat

>>537881286
>Japan finally get an attacker
>It's a fast ground-attack plane not a medium bomber
>Probably BR4 or 5
REEEEEEEEEEE!

>>537904136
Yeah, right after I get my 30th Stinger and Conders

>>537904136
>>537905954
you'll put 1 million in and get a mosin with scope held on with tape, a bloodied STG, 2 blued borwnings and a katana

>>537881286
>the annoying bug that made Japanese soldiers bald and spoiled the general feel of the game has been fixed.

>>537907160
wish they'd fix the bug that made me bald and spoiled the general feel of existence haha

>>537908043
Oof

I bet you I will get something utterly dogshit like the Commission rifle

>Reworking old locations: The cave village of Tunisia
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/reworking-old-locations-the-cave-village-of-tunisia/168598

>>537919336
Looks much better

>>537915149
Feels (and sounds) good now actually. They buffed it's rate of fire so it's actually decent at BR1. Much better than the berdan

Komet

>>537915149
>>537925535
The G88 is pretty good, I have one... But I forgot which squad it's on in my reserves and lost it.

GUYS WE HAVE TO PRE ORDER THE COPY PASTE OR GAIJIN WILL SHUT DOWN THIS GAME

>>537925535
>>537939827
I also wanna mention that from a purely statistical standpoint, the G1888 is a huge piece of shit. It has abysmal dispersion and is basically a worse Mosin 91/30, but it sounds and feels really nice.

>>537940864
I seriously considered it but neither squad it frees up would be used anywhere else. It would free up a KT(p) and IS-2, neither of which I would use.

>>537944062
The Tiger P is pretty good since you can wiggle the turret to make it harder to kill. Bundle still isn't worth it. The next update is mostly exciting to me because I'll be able to update and use my Headless Thompson Gunner squad after 3 years.

>>537947501
Still don’t get the reference

>>537950409
nta but how much more explicit can "headless thompson gunner" be

KV-2 to BR3 when?

>>537952052
It would still be a meme.

>BR1 gets love with retard jap shotgun
>bongs finally get the church VII
>burgers finally get a drum thompson with good sights
yeah, I dig it

>>537952541
even more reason for it to be moved down then
>>537953613
shocking to see any positive comment about anything related to an update

every AT trooper being able to carry 6 panzerfaust 100s is such bullshit

belt fed fg42

can we play tunisia on br4-5 yet? tired of playing br2 just because tunisia is my favorite map

>>537965906
Probably next patch, with the Queef Cave Village changes.

>>537960035
>spawn any tank that isnt the T2H
>get anywhere near the point or just stay in the back line, it doesnt matter
>exist only at the will of the other team until they feel like lobbing cross map rockets at you until you explode from a frontal hit
great fucking game
>>537965906
tunisia was complete dogshit when it was unlocked for high BR

>>537960035
as an airfag i feel the same way about aa guns

>>537967564
AAA should die to one 20mm round and then it would be fine

>>537966790
>>537967564
>>537969306
Cry about it, vehiclefags.

Is BR3 just straight up the best one?
>access to all maps (especially so when Berlin was high BR only)
>most iconic equipment
>teammates who know what a rally is
>rarely gets an uptier since BR4 is the least populated one

The only thing I miss is boltie gameplay

>>537969306
the primary issue i have is that we can't highlight aa guns from our planes anymore. we used to be able to do this

>>537952541
if you can find something to hide its giant ass behind and a little patience you can farm wehrtards used to being frontally immune to everything
>>537969992
no, eat shit. an infantryman should not be able to carry 200 pounds of AT weapons, its just handholding for complete shitters who cant aim and just walk their rounds onto target.

soviet tanks are worthless on berlin and stalingrad maps with multiple floors because you will die from 1 AT trooper hail marying shots from 250 meters away. its so easy you dont even have to use the range adjustments

>>537971224
>Wah wah I should be allowed to shell you with impunity
Uh huh. Die angry.

>>537971435
you are defending catering to the lowest common denominator in favor of balance or realism

infantry AT weapons have no dispersion, no bounce percentage, and require ZERO skill because there is no consequence for missing.
just lobbing panzerfausts from cross map being a normal part of gameplay is fucking retarded

>impunity
bro your TNT bundle? det charge? allied tanks? fighter bombers? ground attack aircraft? panzerfaust, bazooka, ofenrohr handed out like candy (with 1 or 2 shots instead of 6)?
if you think the current state is somehow necessary you are just a dogshit player who needs gamey exploits to make up for lack of ability

>>537971908
Don't forget the AT emplacement an engineer can just pull out of their ass

>>537971908
>you are defending catering to the lowest common denominator
I'm pretty sure that is retarded tankers

>>537972254
do you want to take more time to make a coherent argument or is that all you have?

>>537971908
>fighter bombers? ground attack aircraft?
a good pilot will completely shut down enemy armor, true, but this is as long as some nerd doesn't sit in an aa gun 24/7, completely shutting down the air space

>AA is fucking worthless! Quad Barrel Flakverling return when?!
>AA is fucking OP! One AA gun shuts down all airspace!

>>537972671
sitting in an aa gun takes less skill and brains than using at at weapon as well

>spam aa like a brainless retard
>miss all shots
>one shot hits
>there goes your fucking wing bro

>>537971908
>TNT, det charge
Disingenuous. Good luck while he is in the grey zone.

>Allied tanks
Yeah just leave it up to my team lmfao k. In Enlisted? Disingenuous.

>Planes
I am not leaving it up to my teammates. If I am in a plane, my team will lose since I have to win the match for them.

AT is fine, the only people who don't agree are just mad that their camping can be countered.

>>537972840
not really, timing is super important to use the AAA effectively, which is why its less of an issue than handheld AT spam because most idiots playing AA dont know how to do it
everyone who plays this game just spams AT launchers because its actively incentivized
>>537973509
>Good luck while he is in the grey zone.
have you played recently? there is a whole class dedicated to exactly this. dont pretend every single tank on the field is outside of the playable area either
>my team
yeah the role of armor is primarily to fight other armor. this is a team game and no matter how it might irk you it cant be balanced around one man armies
>Disingenuous, Disingenuous
is this a new word you learned here? you are using it incorrectly
>AT is fine
the greyzone armor camping you are whining so much about is incentivized by the insane strength and number of handheld AT, why would johnny fresh install ever leave the spawn if he gets instantly deleted every time he does?
>camping can be countered
there are more mechanics in game for countering armor than literally anything else, and the only people who are seething at the idea of their skill-less, unrealistic, bad game design spam being taken away are shitters who are worried they might have to learn how to aim.

throwing a bitch fit about this is funny because even with less ammo you would still be able to retardedly cross map one shot tanks, you would just have to actually measure and aim and make your shots count instead of volley firing a half dozen rounds until one works by chance

>>537972970
if you spin during a dive you can throw off the aim indicator and kill the AAA helplessly trying to hit you. the big issue is if hes good enough to hold fire until you are pulling out

/enlg/ stack when

Gray zone camping, while annoying, is heavily overstated as a problem. Devs have done a good job altering the maps to make it a tiny fraction of the issue it used to be

They have definitely learned a lot about map development.

>>537976260
Everyone here is too self-conscious.

>>537981875
We used to stack queues back when we had campaigns, people would go whichever faction and queue up at a predetermined time.

>>537973509
>AT is fine
Yeah, the Super Pershing and IS-2 44 being totally invalidated, even through their frontal armor, by at least one soldier in every enemy squad with multiple highly accurate rounds is totally fine and not a functional hand out to the Germans at all

You can frontally pen the KT too with your fucking welfare German AT

>>537984228
ive been playing BR4 soviets to grind silver because I have a lot of premiums there and its just so miserable. its shitty enough for end of line tanks, forget about the 34-85 or M4 76 or is-1 which just get brutalized by everything. having to contend with panthers and tigers and ducking jets is enough, throw in every cocksucker waiting in a window or around a corner with a panzerfaust to kill you as soon as you spawn or round a bend, and something absolutely has to change. high BR infantry AT is seriously overtuned

the premium is-1 is going to be constantly shit on by ofenrohrs just like it did in the sov vs jap event. I have no idea how anyone who isnt completely delusional could think these things are in a good place right now

The KT is way less likely to be instantly killed from the front by an AT weapon, don't pretend otherwise you German runt

>>537981875
I've accepted exactly one invite to a squad and it was huxbox's
the enemy team couldn't even get out of their spawn and I barely got any kills as a result

>>537984228
AT being overpowered is good because tanks are just more effective snipers. I would only ever concede to AT weapons being nerfed even slightly if the grey zone got completely fucked. No, Guerillas are not a counter to greyzone camping tanks the way pre-Meteor bombing wasn't a counter to the KT, because it's way, way too much of a time sink and too risky to get ONE enemy tank while he can click your team for 40+ kills in that same period. It's not a worthwhile exchange. Make it so tanks that stay in the greyzone get spotted automatically after 30 seconds and it will probably be fine.

>>537987786
This is something CuxBox would say.

>>537988116
I'm not huxbox though
he did get more kills than me which was fucked up though

anyway, I'm glad we get to see a bunch of wrecked jeeps with 1919s on them but why can't the riders get a 3-man 1919 jeep squad

>>537988734
>I'm not huxbox though
the fag you are replying to is

>>537988116
>>537976797
Grey zoning is not anywhere enough of an issue to justify every AT soldier carrying 3-6 frontal tank kills.

>>537988589
It is better for tanks to be underpowered than it is for them to be overpowered, it's that simple. Same with planes. The microsecond any vehicle gains the ability to act with impunity, a match becomes unplayable, frustrating, and half the team on the receiving end leaves. Removing half the AT on infantry as it stands would just make the game into even more of a "Dying by HE" simulator, which nobody wants besides deranged maniacs who enjoy sitting on a ridge clicking LMB match after match.

>>537989183
It absolutely is. Especially in Tunisia, Moscow, Bulge and most of the Pacific (not Myansera). If somehow, overnight, all the maps became better designed, sure! Reduce how much AT infantry can carry, great. Unfortunately, most players don't enjoy being assfucked from 200 meters away by a target they functionally cannot deal with.

>>537989645
>impunity
theres that fucking word again, cant you fucking read? I am not saying to remove the panzerfaust et al, merely that it carries too much ammo. How hard is it to understand that counter tank gameplay is FAR too brainless currently
how often do you expend all of the ammo of one AT trooper? how often do you bother to maneuver into a position where you have a clear shot on an ammo rack? fucking never most likely, because there is no reason to. infantry should be able to kill armor obviously, but there should be a modicum of thought or effort put into this process instead of a bullshit pocket trump card that requires absolutely no forethought or skill to use. putting in the bare minimum requirement of conserving your ammo, like any other weapon, is not going to give armor free reign of the battlefield

you are being fucking myopic focusing merely on how you can maintain your absurd 90% solo carry win rate, never playing the other side of what you are arguing for, instead of looking at the game holistically. what absolute nonsense to contend that half of what gets added to the game every update should be completely fucking useless because the alternative is you might actually have to think instead of spamming rockets
>even more of a "Dying by HE" simulator
is this the case at BRs without german RPGs? was this the case before the offenrohr was added to everyone? or before it was added at all? no? then maybe it stands to reason that when the most powerful easy to use AT weapon becomes ubiquitous the balance around it may need to be adjusted? it is completely broken that I can sit in a position and wipe 3 or more tanks with one soldier without any resupply, and that isn't including the AT mine and explosion pack which are two more guaranteed kills
>Tunisia, Moscow, Bulge and most of the Pacific
meanwhile tank gameplay on the maps you didnt mention is essentially impossible, which is the sole experience of high BR soviet armor

>>537992813
>I am not saying to remove the panzerfaust et al, merely that it carries too much ammo.
It carries as much as it needs to deal with tanks sitting 200 meters away, which they largely do.

>How hard is it to understand that counter tank gameplay is FAR too brainless currently
how often do you expend all of the ammo of one AT trooper?
As opposed to the cerebral experience of tank gameplay, which is sitting in one place clicking LMB? Riveting.

I don't even really want to read the rest of this post, because this is just whining that you can't do what you want with no way for your opponents to fight back. Sorry. There's not much point continuing this "discussion" ("I want to be able to kill people who have minimal methods of resisting me!") any further. Again: if somehow, overnight, the method in which tanks were used changed, sure. Halve the AT carried by infantry. Until then, this is fine, because I don't want to be subject to being blasted by some queer sitting on a hill who I can only counter by getting into my own vehicle.

No. AT guns (outside of German ones, of course, since they actually get APHE worth a damn) are not viable. There's a reason nobody uses them for anything but HE spam. Building one then putting the requisite 10+ AP shells into whatever you are shooting at and hoping it dies is not viable when all that target needs to do is click near you once to wipe your whole squad.

>>537993157
my frustration isn't from sitting on a fucking ridgeline and left clicking you cocksucker it's from trying to play the objectives and be useful to my team and then getting instantly killed from a 3rd story window 150 meters away, repeatedly.
you obviously have immense butthurt for the existence of tanks in this game which really begs the question why fucking bother attaching yourself to a game like this, a central factor of which is the legacy of warthunder, instead of the myriad of other WW2 shooters that dont feature vehicles.
>no way for your opponents to fight back
>I need an unrealistic ammo load to already unrealistically performing weapons to be able to fight back against realistic armor models
arent you an oldfag? remember how you dealt with tanks before getting half a dozen HEAT rockets on every squad?
>AT guns
are perfectly viable lol, that you are trying to inb4 them speaks volumes, they get used for HE spam almost as often as for AT work because they have more HE rounds. AT guns again require forethought and planning and have to be set up all of which requires far more skill and are therefore much fairer play than the pocket rocket you can whip out and kill anything with by vaguely aiming at it from any window or crevice
>you need to pump shells
>they need to click near you once
its dishonest to construe low BR AT guns, which both require and take more shots generally, and high BR AT guns, which generally one tap and are one tapped.
I know you barely if ever touch armor because you are describing facing every tank as if its the king tiger when in reality every other tank is a squishy piece of shit that requires constant situational awareness to do anything meaningful in

you also have yet to address that the reason for greyzone camping even being a thing is the outrageous range and power of handheld AT. even still, armor camping 200 meters from the point is extremely rare, being not really viable on many maps due to obstacles, and as a result most tankers maneuver to an extremely exposed high point or push vaguely with their team. that people arent more aggressive is from learned experience of dying immediately from omnipresent one shot HEAT rockets

also this snobby elitism against people who play tanks is just as gay and retarded as the faction main morons. what am I supposed to never spawn vehicles in order to have the approval of the carry god? who gives a shit, I am going to use all the content provided because it's more fun that way, and having played all sides from every angle, I can say for a fact infantry AT is too strong currently

>>537994550
>>537994710
>>537994905
I'm not reading this. Sorry that you can't just sit on a hill getting free kills every 5 seconds? Maybe just play mortars if passively clearing caps with HE is your style, or an artillery squad. Tanks are fine, if not overpowered and oppressive on average. You can drive at a cap like a madman, shit out 3 shells and get 20+ kills with ease (and totally clear the cap), or lock down a cap from a safe distance and make it unassailable.

>other WW2 games
>tanks are fearsome centers of gravity on the battlefield that shape the dynamic of the match, requiring coordination to both use well and take down
>enlisted
>every tank besides the king tiger is just an XP piñata to anyone with a pulse

>>537994973
stick your fingers in your ears all you want
just tells me that im right and you have no refutation available
>Tanks are fine
at low BR, which is all you play, sure. not the case at higher BRs anymore

>other WW2 games
>tanks are fearsome centers of gravity on the battlefield that shape the dynamic of the match, requiring coordination to both use well and take down
lol
Lmao

>>537995576
Tanks are fine at BRs I, II and III. Tanks being "bad" at BR V is good if the KT's state is/was any indication of how they can be. This is not a compelling argument. In every match I play at every BR, the top players on either team tend to make extensive use of tanks and rack up a shitload of kills, assists and points with them. Ergo, they are fine and are performing fine. Were they any more powerful, they would completely snap the game over their collective knee... which the KT did until the Meteor was added, which has snapped the game over its knee. As is, a half-decent player can get 30+ kills in a single life clicking LMB a few times in a tank, which is more than can be said of any other non-vehicle squad type in the game. Therefore, they are fine, if not overpowered. BR V matches, despite tanks being LE BAD, are still nightmares of tank HE spam wiping the point repeatedly in most cases.

>>537995828
If toliet loose and post scrotum had modules there would be no reason to play enlisted

>>537995889
>in most cases
this literally only applies to the KT and only because it is the most protected from rocket launchers, as it is on an even keel with its equivalents otherwise

>well over half of the vehicles in the game are downright miserable to play
>here's why that's a good thing

Current reality:
>Guy spawns in tank
>Turns on low-fi reverb and slowed remix of Erika
>Holds W for 10 seconds
>Clicks LMB
>Gets 30 kills
>"lol pwnt infantry"
>Some guy on the enemy teams clicks LMB on him with AT launcher
>"lol pwnt tank"

Hypothetical reality (nerfed AT):
>Guy spawns in tank
>Turns on low-fi reverb and slowed remix of Erika
>Holds W
>Clicks LMB for 10 seconds
>Gets 30 kills
>Enemy surviving AT trooper weeps a single tear
>"So... it begins..."
>Slowly crawls his way across the map
>Tank clicks LMB again
>10 more kills for the tank
>"lol pwnt"
>Squad's assaulter gets killed by a sniper
>10 more kills for the tank
>"lol pwnt"
>Machine gunner gets killed by a bombing run
>10 more kills for the tank
>"lol pwnt"
>After an excruciating, unfun 2 minute slog across the map, he finally gets into range
>Tank is still shelling the cap
>Fires one AT to range, misses
>Fires another, it gets eaten by volumetric or just by the damage model
>Somehow, the enemy tank doesn't notice him (too busy listening to Erika and farming the cap)
>One left...
>Fires
>By some miracle, it hits the ammo
>Blows up the tank
>Just as this happens, the AT trooper gets killed because he is in the greyzone
>"Finally... I did it..."
>"WTF I DIED?? oh well spawn in another tank"
>Guy spawns in his tank
>Holds W
>LMB
>10 more kills for the tank
>"lol pwnt"

Sounds horrible. I think I like how things are now :)

>>537992813
>>537993157
>>537994550
go back to the official forums you spurglord

What's the best spaghetti rifle at BR1? I've just been using the 3 star M41(D) because I cannot seem to see anything better.

that new thompson is gonna pwn, thank god fuck that ugly ass hyde gun i refuse to use it. engineers should also get access to thompsons, it's historically accurate

>>538005461
The short Carcano 7.35 and full size M1891 are both fine, but the former is definitely better.

and it would be cool if you could actually land your plane in a field to do repairs without losing your plane and being teleported back

News

https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/955-weapons-and-vehicles-of-the-scorching-rays-update-en/#!/

>>538007171
>BR4
>BR4
>BR4
>BR1
Are they retarded? KT will demolish Churchill. And BR3 Shermans and any other BR4/5 USA tanks will demolish that shitty Chi-nu II. Ki-83 will be probably underwhelming too

It was so worth killing Enlisted for Active Matter. Their leddit and pisscord are more dead than Sahara.

enlisted moved on?

>>538010136
>waaaaahhhhh BR4 is ded!
>wtf why do they keep adding things to BR4?!
You’re a retard

do you think the new animator knows how coach guns work?

what the fuck is wrong with the p51d? this piece of shit just keeps crashing

Crank the acceleration all the way up and stop trying to fly like a spitfire

any event leaks?

>scorching rays
>it's the raytracing update
it's a little clever

>>538021763
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/ray-tracing-is-coming-to-enlisted/168639

>>538014752
What's wrong with it?

>Testing the "Scorching Rays" update
https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/957--en/#!/
>Preliminary patch notes for the “Scorching Rays” update
https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/preliminary-patch-notes-for-the-scorching-rays-update/168644/1

>>538033280
>Added a new buildable structure for Engineers of the SVT-40 (AG) squad: AG-2.
Holy kek!

>>538035056
looks fun
hope it makes the anti-explosions autists seethe

>>538035056
at this point they should add infantry guns or mortars for engineer 3

>>537995889
>Meteor has snapped the game over its knee
what a bunch of melodramatic bullshit
>>537997414
gonna return the favor and not read your faggot ass post

>>538010136
The Churchill premium is BR3 idk why you would ever think the 7 would be anything less than BR4
>>538010287
>game that's been out for 5 years has more followers than a game that isn't out yet
>>538033280
>removed burst from federov rifle
It might be useable now at least.
>>538035257
5k gold for the privilege. $50 is nothing for the sake of HE spam (25 rounds, no refunds) to own the libs
>>538028816
A waste of time when it's all poorfags running this game on their toaster.
Active matter being paid means the playerbase might not be totally retarded at least. It's shocking to me that year over year the Enlisted playerbase has only gotten worse and worse.

>>538037746
Whats the other mortar in the back there. Looks too small to be 120 but too big to be anything else

>>538003031
>seeing a handful of paragraphs makes the zoom zoom have a melty

New Event.

>>537994550
>every other tank is a squishy piece of shit that requires constant situational awareness to do anything meaningful in
Literally the reason people sit back and click on the point to begin with. And people wanted guerillas to get AT weapons lol

>>538040315
BR4 mkb or will they go full retard and make it BR3?

>>538033280
What customization did the PPK42 squad get? I guess they can finally wear something else instead of neon green in the snow of Moscow, also they labeled it as a premium squad instead of an event one lol
>>538040315
Market Garden event, huh, really looking forward to that, I've already got the Paramarines and this new weapon looks like two Thompson mags tapped together so my guess it's either BR2 or 3

>>538038994
>>game that's been out for 5 years has more followers than a game that isn't out yet
Their leddit and pisscord are more dead than Sahara.

There are zero hype about the game. You may think that Extraction shooter would be even more popular with normies than some old and busted WW2 shooter.

>>538040315
>>538041754
Stg45, mkb42 and horn stg belongs to BR3.

>>538040315
>>538041754
I'm not sur ewhat gun it is but sure it have a small magazine.

>>538042989
ai slop and we will have 5 rounds as only soviets can have 30 round ARs as their para guns

Italian with winter (at least goves) uniforms ?
Japanese with legs and torso cosmetics separated ?

>>538042541
I don’t know how they normally represent Thompsons, but this thing doesn’t have a stock.

>>538042831
fuck off retard

>>538033280
>>538042541
>Added customization options for PPK-42 (USSR, Premium) squad.
What the heck is the "PPK-42 Premium squad" ? Does they mean the Event PPK-42 squad (with the limes green amoeba camo) ?

>>538044417
every thompson has a QD stock, some paratroopers probably dropped with it taken off for less bulk hanging off them

>>538045208
Yeah I just mean in that style of icon before I know they've portrayed Thompsons, and I can't recall if those ones were also portrayed without stocks just to make it more manageable on the icon.

>>538045035
Whatever intern they got to write the patch notes made a mistake, I guess

>>538044417
Yeah I noticed that but wasn't sure if it's intentional or not, if it has no stock and thus high recoil it might be BR2, the taped together mags would give it a reload time similar to the japanese thompson, although I wonder how the game would handle that tapped together magazines, since it does actually account for individual mags

>>538043268
>>538042989
10 round BR2 MKb confirmed

>>538045521
Going from memory I think the last time a Thompson had an event icon it did have the wooden stock on it

>>538043268
dipshit hater status: (You)

Should I move all my MKb-35s and soon to be 10 round MKb-42s to my assault engineers? They work well with the MKb-35s but the 10 round MKbs would surely be better used with ASSIVs for quick reloads.

>>538043749
these are old

>>538047985
Really ?

>>538046907
>he needs to use "ai detector" websites instead of using his brain to detect ai
you are too far gone and already merged with ai in a cloud and musk's satellites

>>538045016
turd kiddie that doesn't know how to balance game

t. unemployed pšek on disability who obsessively posts about this game everywhere he can

>>538048680
that specific image has been mined before, a few months ago IIRC

>Hidden the Posters tab (outdated mechanic) for players who don’t have any posters

Not my posters, which I remember once in a blue moon

A bunch of German camos got updated, and there are some new tunic and pant variations. That one helmet camo now has a matching tunic, still no pants though.

The "new" lebel uniforms seem to just be the darker suits that were added with the premium volksturm.
Also, they added light grey summer caps and those OD stahlhelms that only the Normandy sniper squads had.

There is an alternate model of watch cap in OD and grey

The wellie style boots are now available in OD and gray in addition to the forest green ones, and Moscow and Stalingrad also have versions where the upper part of the boot is tan.

Whichever camo that one helmet had in green now has a matching parka available in Stalingrad and the Bulge. The Bulge also lost a bunch of pant options for some reason.

>also lost a bunch of pant options
every time they shuffle around customization options it makes me nervous my shit will get deleted and I wont even be sure which squads had what
no refunds

Stalingrad and the Bulge also have unfolded cheek covering versions of >>538051892

>>538042660
>game that hasn't released and hasn't been played by anyone but a small group of beta testers doesn't have an active social media presence

>>538051441
>The "new" lebel uniforms seem to just be the darker suits that were added with the premium volksturm.
It's cool, for now my Volkssturmers only have the red one or the light-brown one.
>Also, they added light grey summer caps
Is it the same than the 14th Signal Battalion wear in Normandy ? (see pic)

What's the new customization on the other factions?

>Added customization options for different campaigns for MP 40 silenced (Germany, Event) squads.
Please, please, please show it.

>>538054863
Yeah it's those caps. The models for the basic pants and tunics are also a little different, I think more historically accurate. There is also a plain grey tunic option now and those old green and reddish tan camo from Normandy is back, but only for the pants
>>538055586
Yeah sorry I had to step away for a second I'll get to it
>>538055112
I'll check in a moment but don't hold your breath. I don't have the DSZ to see what they got either.

I'm also still trying to find the "Legacy G-41 squad" they said got Luftwaffe uniforms.

>>538056030
its the old normandy G41 engi prem, assuming they just gave it the proper litzen like they have done with other luftwaffe units

StG-45 M squad lost their orange camo uniforms for everywhere but Berlin and Normandy. I felt like it would have been suitable for Moscow and Tunisia as well, but whatever.
Bulge and Stalingrad get this. Though they also have interesting alternate options I'll post next
>>538056264
Is that so? The way they said legacy made me think it was just a legacy progression squad, but you're probably right. They also called the PPK squad a premium so we can't take them at their word.

Alternate StG-45 uniform that can be purchased but isn't equipped by default for any campaign currently.

>>538056030
>I'm also still trying to find the "Legacy G-41 squad" they said got Luftwaffe uniforms.
Isn't it the 5th pionneer ? They may gave them Luftwaffe collars ?

Has the parka that tankers can wear as well as white pants. Could match the white pants with the regular white parka everyone has access to if you wanted.

can you see the new premium prices on the TTS?

>>538056767
Yeah you're probably correct
>>538055586
The regular camo on the silenced MP-40 was changed. Looks kind of weird, the mask wasn't changed and is now noticeably different from the rest.

In the Bulge and Stalingrad silenced MP-40 is wearing this
>>538057094
It's currently showing 2,750 gold for the jap paras. The Mortars don't have a price, and when you click on it it takes you to a store page that doesn't exist yet so it's probably going to be cash only.

>>538056030
>I'll check in a moment but don't hold your breath. I don't have the DSZ to see what they got either.

Thanks, I'd check myself but I'm at work atm, I don't really expect anything they hadn't stated in the patch notices, but every now and then they stealthdrop some stuff like soviet riders getting new hats and pants without notice, or the SAS having their Tunisia outfit removed from other fronts. At best I'd hope that maybe Soviet guerrillas get the telogreika pants that every other squad can use or just little adjustments like that

>>538057305
thanks, is the mortar the PM120?

Silenced MP-40 squad actually has a ton of item variations. The tunic or rain cover or whatever it is actually has like 5 or 6 different variations that look like the same camo but oriented slightly differently.
Headgear has a ton of variations which I'll post next

>>538056030
> those old green and reddish tan camo from Normandy is back, but only for the pants
Sorry, but I don't see which uniform you are referring to :(
>>538056030
np
>>538056372
>>538056567
>>538056773
I guesss Moscox share the same winter camo ?
And what about Tunisia ?

>>538057805
It's the BM-41. I guess you'll have to change it out with the RM-50/40/38 if you want to actually use the squad at BR4.
>>538058084
>Sorry, but I don't see which uniform you are referring to :(
It's in the picture. The pants are back but the tunic still isn't.
>I guesss Moscox share the same winter camo ?
>And what about Tunisia ?
At the moment it's just trench coats for Moscow and shorts for Tunisia

>>538057871
I'm thinking some of these seemingly redundant tunics might be placeholders, because the mask is available in different camos.

>>538060350

Oh and unlike the StG squad, the MP-40 squad doesn't default to the Bulge/Stalingrad options but it does have them available.

Beltfet DP's new parkas. These ones are for Berlin, the Stalingrad/Moscow ones are the same but over the padded looking uniform instead.

>>538057305
Spooky!

>>538058289
>It's the BM-41
man, a BR4 basic bitch mortar premium with a beech furniture SVT is a tough sell

>>538061186
I'm done screenshotting. The PPK squad now has a different color default amoeba camo in Moscow (same as third from the left here) >>538061186
It also has all the other Beltfed DP patterns available to use in Moscow and Berlin.

>>538061869
Thank you for all the pictures.
(Japanese still can't change pants ?)

>>538062063
Nope, I checked. No new clothes that I can see for anyone but Germany

>>538063817
I saw on forum that British had access to helmets with foliage now ? It was bullshit ?

Can't wait for me 50 round Thompson (Good Version).

I'm just glad the burgers are getting a TT church(that has a good* gun) and a 50 round thompson without that shitty peep sight

now I can bring an LVT or M3 to high BR games with an entire 7-man squad loaded with 50 round thompsons and return to the most ghetto assault squad possible

>>538042989
My guess would be that it's an MKb with a 10 or 20 round testing magazine, which existed.

>>538040192
>bait causes the spurg to lash out ineffectually

>>538064141
Checked American not Brit so I can’t say for sure. Last update the Moroccans and SAS got more specialized versions of them, it would not be surprising if they gave regular versions out now.

>>538068989
Watch out Lil bro there might be another paragraph posted here

>>538046876
>>538045521
>>538045208
>>538044417
It's not just on the small icon.

italian event vehicles when

>>538068989
where is the bait??

>>538073591
Neat. Feel like it will still be BR3 though since it’s not the shitty M1A1.

>>538074134
it looks like the m1a1 though...

>>538074613
I always hated blonde SVT-40s
they look so...
tacky

>>538073591
>>538074134
Wait a minute I'm retarded, that does have the shitty cheap triangle sights. It is a nigger-rigged M1A1. BR2 confirmed then I guess. Were there any field-mods you could do to the M1A1 to increase the rate of fire, like how you can greatly increase the rate of fire of the Swedish K SMG by putting a battery behind the bolt?

>>538064141
Alright, I have returned from my nap. Here is the brit stuff. They have the OD and Tan one with webbing, and the OD and Tan one with webbing + foliage. And this hat.
They didn't get the winter covered helmet like the Norwegian Commandos got for the Bulge.

>>538074718
the most popular field mod among thompsons, as I recall, was removing the blish lock since it did nothing and just complicated the gun, and I guess marines in the pacific added foregrips

>>538060350
I need them.

Event squad slot when

>>538074023
no wonder you spurged, youre retarded. just go back to the forums and forget you ever head of /enlg/

>>538075375
the blish lock wasnt present on the vast majority of the thompsons issued including the M1A1. bending the sight protectors or something like jungle mags was likely the most common field mod

>>538077821
im not the original poster but
>says there is bait
>look at the post >>538003031
>no bait
at least use the terminology correctly if you are going to come here from reddit newfag

>it's the anon who cannot spell sperg correctly
Oh dear. Here we go again.

>>538078263
/enlg/ crash out over nothing in 3, 2, 1...

>>538074613
>>538074694
it would be maybe even slightly remarkable if it actually had a tighter dispersion like the description implies

>>538073759
What is that supposed to be?

>>538078530
I think it's referring to how it's an improvement over the SVT-38 rather than the actual SVT-40
the (AG) is presumably just to indicate that only its wielders can comprehend the AG-2?
>>538078598
one of their goofy funny cars but with a howitzer

>>538075174
It's crazy the foliage camo net brodie has been in the requisition screen forever and is now finally showing up years later

>>538078935
To be fair, no one cares about br*tish "people"

>>538078787
>the (AG) is presumably just to indicate that only its wielders can comprehend the AG-2?
with all the experimental bullshit in the game they could have at least put in an interesting variant or something. a basic SVT you cant swap out to go with the BR5 mortar you can is nonsense

>>538080778
I think they're genuinely running out of things the russians were making, and since it's probably going to be a mortar+inf+engi squad they only get rifles/autorifles, combined with the fact that it's probably a BR4 squad

I can't really think of any guns the soviets could use for that squad and still be BR4

>>538074718
The mod was to tape two magazines together to reload faster.

>>538081720
Yeah I was just hoping maybe there was something else to make it desirable, because a slow firing gun getting a special version with more recoil and a faster reload doesn't sound desirable.

>>538081813
is it gonna be para squads or just the guns? I wouldn't mind para squads getting retard guns I guess

>>538082076
No idea.

>>538078051
maybe the bait is just saying its bait and watching people sperg/spurg out over it
>>538078263
ok sperg/spurg. chat gpt says both are used so now i am going to spell it spurg just to trigger your autism
>>538078390
resident spurgs will use anything to just to keep the thread bumped

>>538082498
it comes from "aspergers"

>>538079806
is this a game feature? so faggots can now hide on upside down on the roof and just snipe people as they walk underneath?

>>538082671
no shit steven hawking

>>538083570
just like you pretend youre a woman

>>538081813
>690 RPM
>Slow firing

>>538051892
this is going to shake up the dress up meta

>>538084683
>speaking of faggots pretending they are women
fuck off evatranny

>>538081323
ZK 381 Au II was trialed along with the SVT apparently
>In the spring of 1938, the arms factory was visited by a Soviet military delegation. Among the weapons on display, Koucký's self-loading rifle ZK 381 caught their attention, and they expressed interest in its conversion to the Soviet 7.62 x 54 R (7.62 mm Mosin) cartridge. The Soviet side supplied the arms factory with 30,000 rounds for internal tests, as ammunition of this caliber was not produced in Czechoslovakia at the time. The arms factory produced two samples, one with a non-removable magazine for 5 rounds and the other with a standard, detachable magazine for 10 rounds. The samples were designated ZK 381 Au, with the additional designation being the internal code used by the arms factory for the USSR.

there are probably other trials rifles they could shove in
but I just meant the SVT suppressor

>>538084683
Really compelling video. Liked & subscribed.

>>538085043
>taking hrt will shake up the dress up meta
go back troon

Why are Ensharted Tubers so bad?

>>538086446
>hat replacement therapy
you bet it will

>>538086546
mental retardation exacerbated by hrt

>>538082076
It has the squad icon on the leaked picture

>>538088608
Ironically, the troon is arguably the most masculine and cogent of the Ensharted Tubers. The others are way too myopic and alternate between being unable to view something within its specific context, or being unable to view things holistically. Many of them "main" a specific faction and only think about changes within the context of how it personally affects their individual hobby horse.

>>538090648
>knowing enough about their individual beliefs to differentiate
way to tell on yourself

>only think about changes within the context of how it personally affects them
as opposed to the almighty CuxBux, objective judge of balance, game wisdom, and spreadsheets!

ok troon go back to your clan discord

>>538082076
See:>>538040315
>paratroopers_event
>paratroopers_event_squad
It would be surprising if there wasn't a squad as reward.

>>538091263
Pretty much every argument I have ever had here has been someone saying:
>Well I like it so it's good!

Which is pretty unimpressive rhetoric.

>>538082076
>>538091389
>german one says gun
>american one says squad
>picture has german infantry shooting up at american paratroopers
Germans get MKbs, Allies get another para squad

>>538092682
you are just as prone to bias as anyone else, drop the "I am always right" act already, its becoming insufferable

>>538093381
>Allies get another para squad
I kind of hope its a cracked M1A1 and it gets placed at BR3 because BR2 is too crowded already

I will probably quit any game in which I am on the receiving end of an automatic grenade launcher tbqh. thankfully it will be pretty rare
https://modernfirearms.net/en/grenade-launchers/russia-grenade-launchers/taubin-agl/

>>538094202
>never ran reliably
The devs sure love their fictional performance power weapons

>>538094202
>In the end, the two chief designers of this gun were arrested in 1941 and later sentenced to death.
lol

>>538093662
My only bias is towards Truth and Justice.

>>538094390
>on May 15th, 1941, shortly before the German invasion of the Soviet Union, Taubin was arrested by the NKVD on charges of “preserving samples of unfinished weapons and egregiously plotting production of technically unfinished and unsatisfactory weapons systems”. On October 17th, as German forces raced across the Soviet Union, he was executed and buried in a mass grave. The automatic grenade launcher wouldn’t be re-invented until 1966.

>>538092682
almost as unimpressive as when Mr. Objectivity himself shits his pants at the thought of AT troopers getting nerfed lmao

>>538035056
>>538037746
So it's supposed to be balanced by only getting 25 rounds and not being able to be resupplied, meaning you would have to destroy and rebuild it. That feels really pointless, but I suppose it will depend on how restricted the L/R traverse is for whether it is complete trash or not/

>>538097340
Mount a convincing argument besides "I want free reign to farm kills" (which is the argument).

>>538099558
im not going to waste time rewriting my arguments when you refused to read them just yesterday in favor of immediately taking the least charitable option and strawmaning me as a brainless grey zone camper

ill make it easier so you dont have to read any words. look at this webm and tell me there is nothing that should be done to address this kind of cheese
I should not be able to sit in a building and bully fresh armor across the map. with an engineer a single AT trooper can spam like 50 panzerfausts lol

>>538100430
It's this shrimple:

>Tanks can kill infantry en masse with minimal effort or no effort
>Infantry can kill tanks with some effort
Ergo, tanks are fine, if not a powerful option.

>ill make it easier so you dont have to read any words. look at this webm and tell me there is nothing that should be done to address this kind of cheese
A tank has farmed a large amount of kills and is being killed by... an aware player? How... how awful? Maybe the tank should stay mobile and move between cover like infantry has to to survive against tanks?

>>538100653
>A tank has farmed a large amount of kills
huh? whats with the assumption that every tank is toping the score board, for every high scorer in a tank there are a hundred players getting absolutely buttfucked by all the various AT in the game
furthermore, stalingrad and berlin are full of tank spawns that are immediately extremely vulnerable, like communist street or even worse lehrter bahnhof where the enemy team has a large multi story building overlooking the entire spawn. as the devs are redrawing the boundaries this has only gotten worse, too
>being killed by
a comical amount of rockets launched far outside of the maximum effective range of the IRL panzerfaust, an infamously close quarters weapon
>stay mobile
great thing about HEAT rockets, they frequently kill the engine even from a frontal hit
>move between cover
I thought you hated grey zoning? where is the cover to advance down the streets in berlin or stalingrad or honestly any open road (there are many), forget it entirely if there is any verticality
>like infantry has to
tanks are not infantry, they are less mobile, with less visibility, less responsive, and cant capture territory. this is made up for in theory by firepower and protection but the protection part of that equation is really starting to lack with the proliferation and availability of the panzerfaust and ofenrohr, even the bazooka being omnipresent at BR2 has totally changed tank gameplay as germany

its readily apparent we will not see eye to eye on this
its also readily apparent you are not viewing this "objectively" because you have a disdain for armor as a concept from dealing with shithead players which I am sympathetic to
it just irks me as the way it is currently is not realistic or authentic to the WW2 era of fighting, spamming shots at tanks feels unimmersive and unsatisfying outside of the XP pinata making number go up while tank hunting in the days before the greyzone nerf was the most satisfying thing in the game

>>538102924
>huh? whats with the assumption that every tank is toping the score board, for every high scorer in a tank there are a hundred players getting absolutely buttfucked by all the various AT in the game
Their skill issue.

>a comical amount of rockets launched far outside of the maximum effective range of the IRL panzerfaust, an infamously close quarters weapon
This is not an issue. The tank can just hold W and click LMB for 30 kills.

>I thought you hated grey zoning? where is the cover to advance down the streets in berlin or stalingrad or honestly any open road (there are many), forget it entirely if there is any verticality
Irrelevant non-sequitur to this particular clip.

>tanks are not infantry, they are less mobile, with less visibility, less responsive, and cant capture territory
But they can click LMB to get 30 kills. No infantry squad can just hold W and click LMB and rack up kills. Tanks get kills easily, tanks die easily. This is fair.

>its also readily apparent you are not viewing this "objectively" because you have a disdain for armor as a concept from dealing with shithead players which I am sympathetic to
>it just irks me as the way it is currently is not realistic or authentic to the WW2 era of fighting, spamming shots at tanks feels unimmersive and unsatisfying outside of the XP pinata making number go up while tank hunting in the days before the greyzone nerf was the most satisfying thing in the game
"Realism" is kind of a bad argument regardless, the shrimple reality is that tanks are a fire and forget munition of their own in Ensharted. If you make them any stronger, they will be an absolute menace.

>>538094547
>arrested on charges of preserving samples of unfinished weapons and egregiously plotting production of technically unfinished and unsatisfactory weapons systems
>he was executed and buried in a mass grave.
The Soviet system was so bleak.

>>538103287
It was literally just Grigory Kulik being butthurt about the AG-2.

>>538103123
>click LMB to get 30 kills. No infantry squad can just hold W and click LMB and rack up kills.
mortars, artillery, GLs, all match that criteria. H/MGs too if you are feeling generous
>realism is a bad argument
not really, I am not asking for a milsim. this is a casual game sure but the damage models are congruent with themselves and modeled on reality. the battlefield impact of armor should somewhat reflect the conflict the game is trying to portray
>tanks are a fire and forget munition
since when? it wasnt always like this, and that concept totally clashes with the WW2 pastiche the game is supposed to be doing. tanks are *supposed* to be menacing, the entire cultural understanding of tanks is based around that fact. what kind of WW2 game worth anything models its tanks out of paper mache? I dont understand why you are acting like they have always been an arcade battle power up when you remember the time when the panzerfaust was limited solely to berlin just as well as I do. cracking armor used to be a big deal
I dont care if they have to put in a spawn point system like WT but having dozens of tank wrecks piling up over a single objective is stupid and the game wasnt designed for it

>people (me): ask for mortar squads to be able to build a 75mm light-howitzer, a reasonable caliber, with a low fire rate, not able to direct fire, and availabe for all armies
>Snail: add auto grenade launcher only to Soviet
t-thk!

>>538105058
>75mm HE mortar
That would be pure cancer and far more game breaking than a borscht mk19

>>538106148
How is it worse than my actual 81mm mortars ?

>80mm mortar max damage: 14
>75mm HE shell max damage: 250

>>538042541
amoebros get new camos for moscow & berlin. stalingrad is stuck with the default options.

>>538104215
>mortars
Less direct.

>artillery,
Less direct.

> GLs
Hyper-nerfed.

>>538109467
that's definitely how you use the lever

>>538109296
>Less direct
arguably worse because there is no counterplay

also handheld mortars are less hyper-nerfed than heavy tanks which can be killed by infantry from the front at any range. it's also genuinely easier to sway a match with an RMN than an IS2
>inb4 those are limited
not anymore with the crates lmao

>>538109296
> GLs
>Hyper-nerfed.
lol lmao even

>>538114742
Grenade launchers were hyper-nerfed, I can't wipe a whole squad from across the map with a lazy LMB now.

>>538115609
>i have a skill issue
sorry to hear

>>538115691
I do have a skill issue which is why I LMB with the RMN or Arisaka Mortar.

any spelunkers know what kind of cave this is

>>538116434
the spooky ghost kind

>>538116434
slightly smaller than evo4funs anal cave

>>538116434
Active matter Easter egg

>>538094390
we should do the same with monetization Enlisted guy

>>538104215
>dozens of tank wrecks piling up over a single objective is stupid and the game wasnt designed for it
Don't worry, they're looking at making wrecks demoable instead of making tanks actually resilient to the fantasy stove pipe

>>538107892
Pretty neat, now that squad can finally blend in with something

>>538116434
>MP 41(r) on Medics
Huh?

>>538116434
Special Air Service artificial paper mache cave

Finally got around using the french guerrilla squad, I didn't know they had to put 3 stripper clips for the reload lol

>>538157161
i prefer to use the thompson over the meunier for that reason
additionally, it is inferior in every way to the winchester 1907

>>538042831
So does avs36

Komet

>>538165412
The AVS-36 is arguably better than the 20 round AVT.

>>538176398
more like vomit lmao

Did any of you guys try toe full auto fedorov rifle now? It's pretty retarded, kind of like the pre-buff AVS. When mounted it's shooting straight but the visual recoil still goes crazy. It's manageable firing standing when you keep it limited to short bursts. Beyond that recoil is pretty nuts.

>>538159651
>additionally, it is inferior in every way to the winchester 1907
What the frudge? I regularly wipe squads with one Meunier mag going prone

>>538194160
the winchester has 20 bullets and reloads faster
and it has a bayonet

>>538194258
Oh yeah, the 1907. Right, that one is the best battle rifle at BR III by a huge margin

>>538194643
yeah should probably be BR4 shouldn't it

>>538159651
moonie is categorically better at range

>>538194258
The Meunier has a bayonet too. Maybe it didn't before

idk why the US bothered inventing the M1 Garand when they already had a rifle that was a million times better in 1907

>>538194748
It has lower damage than all the other high capacity BR4 battle rifles

>>538200883
it has horrible dispersion that makes it borderline worthless past 50m

Maus

>>538200883
IRL the johnson was a better rifle than the garand and it was shelved for political reasons

>>538216908
There was also a Thompson rifle that was pretty decent in trials.

>>538217498
US army ordnance requisitions/SA has to have one of the worst track records of any institution of the past 175 years

its annoying AP ammo has been in game since alpha but its never been used in any way

>>538224140
The Thompson rifle required lubricated ammunition to work properly and had violent case ejections.

>>538226326
the johnson rifle was less front heavy/better balanced, had a free floated barrel giving it better accuracy, had a more flexible loading system, a more reliable and rugged action and a QD barrel, and it was also compatible with MG ammunition unlike the garand which needed very specific pressure curves to cycle properly. because johnson was eccentric and an outsider to .gov weapons development the ordnance board sabotaged his rifle as much as possible. this is the same institution that kept the last springfield musket in active service for the better part of a century

I prefer the M1941 to the garand in this game, as the latter just doesnt feel good to use in this game

whats the best way to grind silver

>>538232461
use premium squads

>>538233071
is that it

>>538235535
Premium squads and premium time. People who have lots of silver were generally around before the merge and have everything unlocked and converted their silver orders into guns and troops that they then converted into the current silver.

>>538238997
whats the optimal premium line up

>>538239576
Probably a bunch of BR I premiums for Germany or the US. For the US it was possible to just have the Sten III, M3 Field Mod and Berthier Moroccans and rotate them.

>>538239576
the only truly optimal one is the transport premium except for the allies LVT-4 which is a humongous piece of shit. every other transport premium is good and you can customize them with whatever troops you want so it's just as effective as fighting as any other squad. the british transport premium on allies is good though, but not always available

thinking about it the soviet paratroopers are actually the most optimal squad in the game since you can equip different weapons with them and use them at any br. if you play soviets and you had to buy one premium it's paratroopers

>>538242206
Do you know what line up means
>just as effective
No it isn't
>british transport premium
No such thing
>paratroopers
Rather have the 9K

>>538239576
F80, tempest, T24, drum paras, brit flamers, rocket Pershing

The greyhound should get canister 37 shells for the sake of being somewhat relevant. Would be balanced because it is a fragile piece of shit besides

>>538246010
why haven't you killed yourself yet you miserable autist?

>>538246139
The T24 is a bit shit.

When next crates? I want more unique squads, i feel like i don't have enough

>>538202365
>>538203298
skill issue

>>538256103
Update, either this week or next

>>538256920
The 1907 SL feels like such ass to use against Vit troopers but amazing against people who don't have Vit.

Komet