Thread 537807374

jobby cakes edition

>Demo Days
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>AGDG resources
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>Helpful links
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Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
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>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>537708698

>>537807374 (OP)
I love these memes

Something very important I learned over the past year is that the difference between "good" games and "bad" games isn't that the first kind are perfect and the other kind are not, it's all about the attitude of the fanbase and genre preferences. If you take feedback on a platformer game from some faggot who only plays shooters he's going to scream your head off about there being no gameplay, but platformer fans are going to endlessly praise it. People are willing to overlook a lot of flaws in games that have gameplay that they enjoy. On the other hand people who don't have any experience in a genre or don't have the experience needed to play a genre are going to throw melties because they hate running into their own limitations

>>537807608
ain't reading all that

>>537807374 (OP)
Nah, I'd win.

Cute. You can tell he is 100% aligned with the metaphysical good.

>>537807818
That's my game

elder scrolls but xianxia

>>537807879
a lot of hangarounds use this thread as a chatroom because theyre scared of the discord

>almost 12 posts
>0 progress

My fucking composer finally gave me the track I commissioned. It's good but god damn am I growing impatient. I just want to release this fucking game.

>>537805413
That question does not matter. The hard point is learning *any* programming language.

games about this

What's the worst crab trap? Mine is
>you have to make le small games first!
These people never progress beyond RPGmaker pixelshit.

>>537808182
I can't watch these faggot ADHD tiktok videos. The editing-for-toddlers style induces a primal rage in me.

>>537808406
I'll do you one better
>You have to make a game in a popular genre that sells well

>>537808406
>thinking that it's the graphics that makes a game "small"
NGMI

small men create small games

Big boys dream about games that they will never make.

BunDev I know we never met each other, but my honest advice is to just focus on leaving this reality.

Try to enjoy life as much as you can now, not in a get drugs and fuck hookers, but try to find Jesus or Buda or whatever higher being you call God, and then just try to leave in peace with yourself, without regrets.

I honestly think the worst thing you can do is to leave with any regret or any trouble with another person you never forgave.

Shit sucks, but we all eventually come to our end, ones sooner or others later.

Hopefully you reach the forgiveness of our Lord and can rest in peace in the realm of nowhere.

>>537809072
I'd rather dream big than create small insignificant crap. Making a bad gane no one wants to play is the same as making no game at all

>>537808659
>my RPGmaker template project is a REAL GAME!
lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/indiegames/comments/1n2c8r9/should_i_turn_this_pogo_prototype_into_a_rage/

This could have been you, pogobro. But you decided to be lazy and release an unfinished game despite us telling you to wait another year.

Status report on niggerdev?

>>537809498
>>537809512
And yet, every week, "small insignificant" games top the charts.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2085540
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3528450
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3809440
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3371770
Meanwhile, you have no game.

>>537799153
>>537807762
Hey Bundev,

Watch this madman literally btfoing the scientific community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkXbSqo1z1U
>for nearly two decades he couldn't convince scientists to use his blood but he persisted.
Try the bee venom, is being used in multiple types of cancer. Look people that could help you to get it, while letting them to know your story, listen this anon >>537809540

The dose makes the poison.

>>537810012
still here yung blud, still undetected by inner circle niggas but stayin downlow cause you freakazoids do be vile at times, feel me?

>>537810663
Why do black people say axe instead of ask?

It´s starting to feel like an actual game. Gonna start work on more complex enemies now

Total tranny death

>>537811072
But gotta say, the more I work in this project the more I fear I´ll lack the skill and knowledge to get it done the way I envision. Just hope I don´t hit any roadblock that I can´t get through

My demo is almost ready.

>>537810950
is just hard to say is all, asians cant say r dey say l and arab niggas cant say p dey say b
same shit lil blud

>>537807608
You have gynecomastia.

My demo was forged in the fires of creation 10 000 years ago

>>537807869
Aligned with metaphysical donuts

>>537811424
And you're jealous of my artistic success

I knew I wouldn't make it to DD but I'm still disappointed that I didn't make it.

I'm boutta say it

did the nigga who was vibecoding a 2d topdown roguelike with grass tiles stop posting or what
he was making 'gress hella fast for a week or so

>>537812063
I raped and dumped him in a sewer

>>537811386
I tried Lawry's and it was really disappointing. Sorry, man.

>>537811297
>Just hope I don´t hit any roadblock that I can´t get through
that's when you grow anon

Why does it seems that other engines beyond godot are just more pain longer term, meanwhile godot is just a smaller pain in the shortest term, but easier in the longer term?

I really hate it when anons vaguepost about an old agdg game in a way that sounds somewhat like one of my old games. Always makes me paranoid as fuck someone's going to dig up my dirty laundry one of these days.

How do I get better at prioritizing? I get fixated on these meaningless little details and then I run out of time to focus on the actual important shiI wish I were more pragmatic.

>>537810019
>Devolved digital
>Chinese
>Free friendslop streamer bait
>AA team make a small game (probably a flop given the team size)
You're not wrong. I just wanted to be salty.

>>537812063
like all vibecoding projects, there's the "holy shit I'm making so much progress" phase immediately followed by "holy shit nothing works and my codebase is a complete piece of shit" phase.

Chinese AA digitally devolved friendslop streamer bait

>>537812825
literally me

>>537812631
Unity is fine. If you pick one engine and stick with it for a long time it doesn't matter what you picked.

>>537812470
i really hope you're only cooking for yourself

>>537812785
I suffer from this. Productive procrastinating. At this point all I can do is pray external forces come and make me do the important work. I'm ngmi

>>537812825
>first 6 months, most productive of my life
>spend the next 2 years fixing the broken mess I'd made and actually having to learn what things did instead of just stumbling into shit that looks cool
Say la vee

>>537813189
Hey, I don't wanna head the white people don't season they food thing. I use plenty of sauces and spices. Lawry's was simply not good. Like rotten fermented barbecue sauce.

>>537813259
It's weird because when I first started I was uncharacteristically ruthless with my time. I accepted that I didn't know what I was doing so things weren't going to be good. But as I got better and my project started to come together I've fallen in the trap and I just can't let things go. I'll spend a month on one shader because it has to be great. I feel sick.

The year is 2015+10 and I have yet to see a single functional "vibecoded" game

What is "vibecoding" and how does it differ from normal coding? Is it that thing that poser streamers do where they have code on the screen for eight hours but never actually write a single line?

>>537813947
It's when you code by vaginating into a prompt box instead of by doing any executive function thinking

i forgot to lock in

>>537813831
How functional are we talking? You could vibecode almost any arcade game from the 70s to early 80s

>>537814118
That's not any kind of coding nigga wtf

>>537812825
are you a nodev? this applies to every game, you write code then it breaks then you debug and refactor, what the hell do you think the average gamedev experience is?

>>537811809
I should've never joined the discord bro, they're cyberbullying nodevs.

>>537814271
The difference is that when you have AI do it you have no way to understand what's wrong or how to fix it once it starts coming apart

>>537813947
Well whatever it is it doesn't fucking work because I'm now learning blueprints in unreal anything more complex than moving shit around on screen and the ai starts to hallucinate random code.

progress

>>537810019
this dude's example of a small game is one with 17 thousand followers lol, and people listen to this thread's expertise

>>537807374 (OP)
STOP TRYING TO DOX YOUR OWN FUCKING FAMILY YOU SCHIZO SPIC

>>537814271
That's not what I'm talking about, retard. You'd know that if you had ever made anything with AI.

>>537814449
prompt?

this pay2win mobile MMO has been recommended to me for like 2 years because its in early access and since i obviously love games in the "character customization" genre i must like it
thanks gabe, THIS TIME it'll work and ill click it
oh youre making another steam machine instead of improving your store page? haha yeahhh....

>>537810653

Lets be real here, even if bee venom did work, where the fuck do you buy bee venom and how would you even know how to safely administer it?

>>537814628
>made anything
>with AI

>>537814645
>prompt?

>>537814131
Time to lock in

>>537811591
t. Skellington
He's in great shape dumass

Starcraft is a roguelite deck builder

>>537814832
>buy bee venom
I googled it and turns out they sell it in pill form. Seems to be some skincare supplements

>>537815494
that's too big...

>>537787665
nortubel draw katrin futacuck carrie with this ugly bitch
that's an order

>>537815765
Age of empires 3 maybe. Idk about starcraft

>>537814509
I just listed the top 4 games from here: https://steamdb.info/upcoming/?week=2025W34
It's a $4.99 game with minimalistic graphics. How much smaller do you want to get?
Maybe this one? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1425980/Stone_Simulator__Just_Be_a_Rock/
Even the smallest small games are beyond your small brain's capabilities.

I am ready

>>537815859

I aint falling for that shit. They're all from weird chinese places and probably contain who knows what but not the active ingredient which is a peptide and would be destroyed in the stomach.

>>537817185
can I see you feetsies?

>>537810019
remember, your capsule art should be relevant to your game. This isn't about how much money you need to spend, this is about what fits your game.

>AI art does not fit your game unless your game is AI slop
>if you hired artists to draw everything, you may need to hire them again for capsule art
>if your game is low effort and simple then maybe a screenshot would suffice

>>537814798
You know you can just block it, right?

>>537814832
From bees kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ9WqSFGRs4
Look for people with bee crops and ask them if you can collect some, the bees won't loose their sting so they wont die.
Or also try if you can find it online, look for Melittin.
I'm not sure if you can eat it or inject it, specially with the commercial types that aren't really designed to do that.
Here's another paper
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/308710183_Application_of_bee_venom_and_its_main_constituent_melittin_for_cancer_treatment

>>537814449
is this a hot girl with big tits or le pedo faggotry of le epic niggers

>>537819097
>is this a hot girl with big tits or le pedo faggotry of le epic niggers

>>537811360
what's ur game?

>>537819273
>>is this a hot girl with big tits or le pedo faggotry of le epic niggers

ready

>>537817924
this game is free retard

>>537814798
You kid, but many people's buying desicions are influenced by character customization. It matters a lot to a lot of people. Remember to allow customization in your game if it fits.

>>537820383
im not watching this or clicking on it
faggot!

>>537820176
time is money friend

Wasted the last two months doing nothing but shitpost so now I'm gonna have to crunch hard these next couple of days to have my demo ready for DD.

>>537820660
day(s) ?

lets say hypothetically i accidently imported a picture of my penis into my project but then deleted, would there still be some remnants of the file left over and could people find it?

>>537820176
Your game is worse than free. You couldn't get people to play it even if you paid them.

>>537820851
depends on the engine, some of them upload your files to the cloud and your penis could be in a bunch of hard drives all over the world

>>537821052
no u lie pls no

>>537820851
Unity? Yes, it's now on their server, training their new AI model.

>>537821052
Unitysisters...

>>537820383
my autistic dev wife is cute....

>>537820726
Submissions are open over several days.

Now we know that one of the late submissions is a bocchi troon. Cross-referencing this with other data we in the inner circle are building a coherent picture of which games' devs are bocchi posters. Marmo obviously. But soon the rest.

>>537821246
your logic is flawed, its obvious the bocchi poster wont submit a demo

>>537820383
>septum ring

>>537821363
H-haha, true. Please don't check the late demo submissions.

>>537820851
yes, when you import something, it's 'diffused' through the entire project so it will load faster. usually not discoverable but talented hackers may recombomulate it. likely they would find the thumbnail and hunt down the rest of the pixels.

I will post my demo when you least expect it

>>537817383
my results used local bees. but we are pretty honey crazy here

I don't have enough time to implement all the features I want before Demo Day. But I'll get as much done as I can.

>>537821578
>flammable

>>537822325
post model please

THEY
WON!

>>537822495
The two weeks aren't up yet.

>Post about top X indie games made by women
>All games are terribly designed except one
>It's made by a trans girl (guy)
Weird.

Rate my progress.

>>537822580
oh. post your learning sources. what's the plan?

>>537822325
Can you draw?

>>537822621
celeste im guessing

>>537821363
Don't worry we've got our Intel pretty dialed in on this one.

Women are only good for one thing especially me but I'm not in the mood for it

>>537821402
my mind is telling me no, but my boner suggests septum rings are hot

>>537821524
what if it was a picture of my bumhole instead

does this count as an immersive sim?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2688780/Odd_Town/

fygoon predicted this btw

we will find you boccho the retard

internally lmaoing every time I scroll past that one guy who's paying for twitter ads to shill his roguelike, I'm not looking at ads ever because I know if you have to pay for me to look at your game you simply have a bad game.

>>537823575
thats a fake bocchi, real bocchi has blue eyes

>>537810019
I'm glad to see the mobile game flopped, steam and mobile/console are two completely different playerbases.

>>537822662
I've basically been surfing through tutorials in between and during sessions just actually screwing around in Blender. The sessions just screwing around in Blender are valuable as hell, even in the midst of relative ignorance. Because it's doing rather than being told. If you have something you genuinely want to create, making progress toward that thing is something I find far more valuable than empty measures replicating meaningless things. I've dug around and imported some pre-made 3d models of human characters to populate my void space as I mess around, and it allows me both proportional reference and a sense of coziness with regard to the space. Even though I didn't create them, having the little characters present where I can hit the play button and have them emote amidst what I'm doing always makes me feel a little better.
There's a thought. If you can't find something to dig up, I think a perfect first/second/third project is an armature. And you can just keep coming back and refining it.
As to the plan? The plan is to eventually get something to the point where I could call it passably finished. I'm learning Blender and UE5 at the same time. Been a ride so far. Working in Blender, have an idea, look up how that idea could feasibly be implemented, then toss the idea on the pile and keep working.
>>537822793
Crudely. I have a very, very messy style.

>>537823214
All girls with septum rings make their whole personality about their "trauma". They will key your car and then cry that you're abusing them when you get mad.

Last minute fixes: book reader now works again (can't even remember how I broke it). Just noticed page numbering is still fucked from playing back this video.

>>537820660
Such is life.

>>537823771
I think textures may break me a bit, though. Long way from messing with that with regard to time, but that side of things terrifies me. Doesn't matter how good your model is if your textures are shit.

>>537823771
>There's a thought. If you can't find something to dig up, I think a perfect first/second/third project is an armature
>Enable rigify extension
>Ctrl-A create human metarig
>Generate IK rig
Don't bother making that shit from scratch kiddo

>>537821246
I don't know who you are. I don't know what the inner circle is, or who's in it, but I have made some observations, you're probably larping.

>>537820383
>9 AI dubbed tracks
>the voice acting isn't generated
voice-acting-using-AI bros?
>>537823923
sounds like wife material

Added a backstep and a sprint action. Fixed a bug that occured whenever an enemy attacked, too.
Also added stamina which most actions now consume. (Not visible yet.)

>eceleb nodev youtube tranny gossip
Fygoon? He was right

My game... flopped......

>trying to install SDL_ttf
Why is this one in particular such a headache
Every other tertiary sdl library was a straightforward process of cloning the library from github and using cmake to install it but this one refuses to install properly

Maybe I should just use a prebuilt engine because holy fuck I hate this

whats the point of participating in 'cord day? my game is finna get mogged by the frydarian tale again.............

a game where you tickle your niece's feet and tummy

the reason why it made that post: triggered due to me mentioning fygoon's game btw

I've already spent over $100k on developing my current game

>>537829505
why

>>537828546
no i didnt

>>537829505
See >>537794996

>>537829505
>spent over $100k
On what?

I found the sample origins of some Half Life sounds/music tracks, some of them (like the one that plays at the start of Unforeseen Consequences) are entirely unmodified from the sample bank.
Does this mean I can use the sample without being a hack? Okay maybe still a hack, but I wouldn't be stealing Valve assets or anything

>>537829640
You don't indie dev for the money bozo.

>>537824014
This is very cool, what engine is it?

>>537829819
Does this mean I can use the sample without being a hack?
Legally yes so long as the sample bank still is under a creative licence (you're still a hack though).

>>537829673
Gpus to vibe code more efficiently

>>537829892
you do if you spent $100k

>>537829590
KRAKABOOM dont lie lil blud

Even if you want to cope and call this a hobby, you're still supposed to spend money on it. Normal people spend most of their disposable income on their hobbies.

>use free engine
>use free modelling software
>use royalty free sounds and music
wow, i love hobbydev and i don't need to spend a penny!

>poorfag cope
>poorfag cope
>more poorfag cope

>>537830927
>>poorfag cope
>>poorfag cope
>>more poorfag cope

>>537830580
I'm pirating all my assets and I'll pay for them when (if) I'm ready to release.
Like, I currently don't own Zero-G Altered States, but it's only like $50

wow i love learning all the different skills needed to make a game, one day i'll dabble in code, another day in art, maybe draft up some ideas. it's great that there's free software available for me to learn all these skills for my hobby!

>>537831101
Yes that's what he said

>>537830927
post your game that's so amazing from being heavily funded.

>>537822621
is it a vice? for my cock?

>>537830805
>implying your time is free
You've probably wasted over a million dollars on this hobby in total by now.

>>537831654
That wasn't me, but you can see my $100k piece of shit this demo day.

>>537831113
this but unironically

>>537831860
The time wasted by a loser incel NEET locked in his mom's basement has zero value.

wow, i didn't realise sleeping, going for walks, spending time with my friends and working on my hobbies was so expensive! i should really charge someone for all that time i've spent doing things i love!

>>537810653
I feel so bad for this man
>>537831860
Time is free

>>537831860
>$100k piece of shit
I highly doubt your time is worth enough to hit this figure

>>537830580
I spend $58 for Adobe software and there isn’t a day that passes where I don’t wish I could cancel my subscription, uninstall this cancer, and start using free software instead. Unfortunately I’m chained to it because it’s the industry standard in my line of work.

>>537832347
*$58 a month, forgot that part

>>537832347
>he actually pays for software instead of just stealing it

>>537832345
Minimum wage is now $16.50 over here

>>537832347
if you can't own the software; simply download the software for free. why bother paying for something you can't own?

>>537814449
My obaa-san can't be this cute.

My day is going as it's meant to go.

>>537830580
>>537830927
It's not really poorfag cope. The real reason they're getting irrationally angry at someone daring to actually track their time cost is that it breaks the illusion that they can claim victory making any kind of money at all, and instead forces them to admit that their time would have been better spent working a minimum wage job.

I could have added every feature I wanted before Demo Day but I decided to procrastinate. I'm going to take a nap now instead of working on my game.

Only thing for gamedev that you need to buy is a computer, though.

s third person melee dead now after elden ring? I mean what other gameplay is as compelling with third person melee?

I fucking hate the shackle that is my game. Yet I work on it evermore.

>>537833285
IDK about that. I see it as penny-pinching out of necessity, since they're a bunch of losers without any money that they can spend. My main hobby is tennis, and I just spent $100 on new shoes this week, ~$110 on a case of balls last week, and ~$50 on league fees the week before that. It's not like I intend to make any money back from tennis. It's an actual hobby. Along the same veins for gamedev, if I see some potentially usable assets, if there's an interesting game I want to "study", or if I want to get a bigger drawing tablet, I'm not going to bat an eye when I spend some money.

>>537833853
what about boardgamedev

>>537833878
I have an ever-present urge to impregnate a female that looks like that

>>537820383
>nosering
literal cattle cow

https://popcar.bearblog.dev/how-to-minify-godots-build-size/

It seems you can take a 90MB godot default binary and strip it of random shit until is 2MB.

>>537834370
you could also cut the crusts off a sandwich, but why would you bother

>>537834347
Hell I’d settle for a male at this point

>>537834370
Cool but I have no idea why I would want to do this. 90mb is pretty small when I'm packing in 2k textures in it.

HAVENT DEVED IN A WHILE
WHAT SHOULD I WORK ON IN MY GAME??

>>537834370
Based, and here I thought the 90mb binary was already a blessing coming from Unreal

>>537835090
anal sex with little girls

>>537834680
>>537834347
and as for my question about third person melee?

>>537835193
awwwhhhh haaaill nah nigga I know used ain't juss say dat

>>537834841
web games live and die by size, defold is also 2mb or less because of that

Made my own rope system because I hate using assets. It's not very good, but at least it's just 2 scripts instead of 200.

>>537824014
>me mashing a over and over again to make your text scroll instant
FIX THIS SHIT its a BOOK not a TERMINAL

>>537835339
ikd man, I can't read your post, my eyes automagically shift focus leftwards every time I try

>>537835397
seems alright. does it tunnel at times? mine does...

>>537835536
Very often :(

>>537835580
I watched a talk on ropes by naughtydog, but I didn't come away with any improvements to my rope, just knowledge that it took a whole team of rope people years to get it good.

>>537811072
Its kinda like 2d ZoE

>>537835397
is it stable when you actually let the object hang? the only rope sim I ever made could also do what yours does here, kind of at least, but the rope length wasn't strictly enforced. if gravity was pulling the suspended object the rope would grow at a very subtle rate. I never got around to figuring out why.

I have the concept of a game outlined
but some systems are fuzzy like
>loot
>some crafting?
>advanced movement tech

I'm not sure if I should try to chizel out other core elements that I'm more solid on or remain with player-focused stuff and experiment.

>>537821246
>Marmo obviously
Does he have a new game or is he still shilling marmoreal?

>>537836392
Start with Pong.

a game where you are cozzy

>>537835865
I am literally the most quintessential idiot dev.
Was working on a multiplayer game and then put it on hold because
>man this stuff is very annoying, I should build a singleplayer game, this way everything will be easy and development will go much faster
Just to then end up trying to develop all the gameplay systems that only teams of people work on as a soloidiot, I have moving platforms that move at extremely fast speeds, but wait I have items what if you put items on the platform, oh god not this again, etc etc, I really just hacked that one in because it just needs to work. Then ropes which surprise, going by your post clearly needs a rope team and I don't have a rope team, I am a one-man team with no rope team.
>>537836154
Yeah, it breaks when you move it too fast and once you let go, and it settles it will turn the dynamic rope into a mesh, it will also check if any physics bodies you attached to have moved so it can seamlessly re-enable the rope system, it works across sessions as well.

>>537810019
>these games

>>537836612
I'm not an ideaguy, nigger.

giwtwm

>>537833998
You know what they say, fail fast fail often... but I couldn't drop my babies and got too invested.

>>537836771
>I'm not an ideaguy
>I have the concept of a game outlined
>but some systems are fuzzy

>>537833878
>>537835339
most of the time when people read posts like this they grumble and pass it by because you are effectively signalling that you don't have any creative juices or drive and are simply trying to video game to grift. Most people would be happy to have and cherish and or abuse your skills for their own project but seeing someone appear even vaguely competent at a skill but loudly asking for someone to teach them how to have passion for something is a chip on our collective shoulder even for really high level yes dev it's like asking for someone to help you grift in their jobby.

TL:DR let me answer you with a question: why do (you) want to make video games?

i just want to finish my game so i can leave this hobby

>>537837001
have you tried making a ponglike?

>>537836913
And some are implemented, crab.

>boot up unity
>start on a new idea
>begin with scrollview chat log
>cant get the fucking scrollview to stop snapping back to the top
>try five different implementations
>beg ai for a fix, only breaks it more
>every time i reinstall unity i forget about this stumbling point
>realize how many projects i'd given up on over it
please lads there must be something on the asset store for this right, just tell me which one is the best god please or else you can plan my funeral

We need a bob lazar videogame

>Welcome, to the Area 51 transit system. The time is one, fourty, five. This tram is inbound for, S4: Flying Saucers.

>>537836942
Why is it so hard to answer this question? Am I onto something here? Where did Elden Ring hurt you?

>>537836913
Not that anon, but the idea guy would be the one figuring out the still fuzzy systems

>>537837185
>scrollview chat log
RIP
you are not alone

>>537836695
here's the link if you want to feel even idioter.
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1027351/Rope-Simulation-in-Uncharted-4

>>537837370
>why is it so hard for you to waste your time making me want to work on a video game?
anon...

>>537837760
amazing
what an odd phenomenon

>>537837619
His post is literally about figuring out those fuzzy systems.

>>537837885
yeah its really odd people come here to ask us why they should be working on a particular kind of video game and what the most profitable video games to make are. like this information isn't publically available or like we're responsible for managing your will power to work on a project and believe in its capacity for success while knowing nothing about either it or (you)

ok so I have pong, what's next

>>537834347
A game where you can get a girlfriend, impregnate her and make her your loving wife.

>>537838207
fable 2

>>537838203
https://20_games_challenge.gitlab.io/

>>537837709
Thanks for this, just a few minutes in and already I think I can actually use one thing he mentioned, but for another more simpler rope system.
I wonder why AAA devs spend so much time making shit like this when they are building movie games instead of immersive sims. So annoying. I played uncharted 4, and I fucking hated every minute because I dislike narrative games or single solution puzzleslop, rolled credits on the game because autism but point stands.

>>537838163
>presses close (X)
Begone thot!

>>537838207
Immersion broken

>>537838481
Yeah that's so unrealistic.

>>537838207
Why would I want to make a game about something I've already done in real life? The whole point of making a game is to do stuff you can't do in real life.

>>537838656
that's a cute bocchi

>>537826047
>voice acting using AI
necessary if you have no range. never generate direction though, use a voice changer

>>537838045
you assumed something and then complain about it
amazing

>>537838387
normies are much more easy to impress with a flashy hyper polished game than a slightly buggy but deep gameplay game.
souls vs stylish action games.

>>537839078
>you assumed something
no retard. I deduced something, correctly.

my head hurts and I think it's because of the bocchi posters. they need to die.

>>537837185
sounds like it must be related to some erroneous input, like it's getting a call to reset or set to "position zero" or something like that when the user didn't make that call.

have you considered preventing the normal scroll inputs and "manually" steering the scroll amount based on "custom" user inputs? like you catch all the mouse movement and clicks or the scroll wheel or analog stick and bypass how scrolling works normally. you catch the inputs and apply them to the scroll view "manually" after preventing it from being steered "automatically". that way if it still fucks up you know it's not because of some unexpected input behavior. or it stops fucking up.

>>537839212
lmao you didnt keep going tho your schizophrenia is entertaining

my game will not be in demoday

It's actually going to take 69 hours to render, holy shit.

my game will be in demoday

>>537839668
why

>>537839470
imagine being so fragile you see an anime cutie and you die, couldn't be me

>>537839801
i look like this

>>537839719
because I do not have levels or sound effects or really anything besides a testing room

This is the good bocc
Inferior boccs can't compete

Total bocchitroon death

NEVER LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAM.

>>537840413
Your odds will be better here: https://www.powerball.com/

>>537839527
>you din't correctly guess anything
>umm guys why isnt 3d melee popular?
>I'm worried it wont make money please help aggy daggy!!!!?11
you're a jeetnigger

Has anyone here tried to make money from portals ads like crazy games?

>>537840580
>odds
Someone needs to shoot you irl (in gta 6)

>537840837
fuck off cris

>>537840790
please saar i am trying to feed my family of 12 children

>>537840413
>his fulltime job was as a 2d animator
so that's the trick eh?

>>537841002
>12 children
incelchuds... we lost... jeets won

>>537840790
still hearing voices and quoting text nobody wrote I see

>>537841235
>s third person melee dead now after elden ring? I mean what other gameplay is as compelling with third person melee?
>is third person melee dead(IE NOT POPULAR/FINANCIALLY VIABLE!?)
>PLEASE GIVE ME IDEAS AGDG I NEED MONEY

>one day until demo day
>my game still doesnt have a name

>>537841658
New Unity Project 132

>>537841658
name it, "Rudy Poo's Quest for Hennessy"

my game? kino
your game? cringe

>>537839801
>>537840054
Pick a better anime girl to shill, losers.

>>537841930
My game? exists
Your game? doesn't exist

>"There's always gonna be another big indie game. Maybe it's yours."

IT'S UP!
https://youtu.be/jKF_okHT18w?si=520COuMqTYtGKQJ-

>>537842134
they're looking at me and talking about me

>>537840413
This is how everyone treats me right now

>>537837227
>2D noir (I can't do 3D fuck you!)
>you're receive research notes of a recently deceased detective that gathered intel from one insane bomber
>your boss wants you to look through it, say you didn't find anything damning and to close the case
>case files from a nutjob have all weird conspiracy theories from Denver International Airport through Skinwalkers, Reptilians and UFOs
>notes from the detective actually start sounding like he's the one who is insane, pointing out strange coincidences with mysteriously suicided people or "accidents"
>you're given the option to say it is worth following or to say it's all deranged
>when you don't give up, your boss is getting angry
>the more you research the weirder things happen, phone calls, internet cuts off, random people coming to your office
>if you can't find a

>>537842134
Funny how when he mentions collabs he only brings up balatro and terraria

What if AI achieves total gaming industry hegemony before we finish our games

why does the demo day jam only lasts 3 days, how i am supposed to dev a whole game in that time?

>>537843075
>he can't do 3D
LOL what a retard

>>537843258
bro, AI can't even achieve total hegemony over wiping its own ass

>>537840413
>alwaysdotheoppositeofwhatredditsays.png

>>537843373
Thousands of games are submitted to prominent game jams like GMTK and LD several times a year. If they can all do it, why can't you?

>>537842134
>It's over
He said the thing!

>>537840413
I still think Hollowknight is an ugly flash lookin boring metroidvania in a market flooded with mediocre metroidvanias. I have no idea how it blew up so fast. Yeah the Switch helped but that was a year after it already sold like a million copies.

opinions on uploading to crazygames instead of itch.io?

>>537843868
it's because it has soul and that's something that scamming pajeets like you can't physically measure so you say it doesn't exist

>>537843957
cris please just make a good game first

Tried out Hollow Knight and the game is like just ok. Art is alright, animation isn't so bad. Music is mostly a bore, there's some good ones, but the rest are forgettable. The story is kind of compelling, but doesn't explain much about the ghost. The combat is not even really where the game shines. Like it's cool you get different abilities so it's not as hard as playing rank 0 needle and no other charms, but the combat is quite simple and I think that's part of why people like it. The game isn't that difficult, there's just a lot of bs parts. The map isn't that big either, you would only have to backtrack a lot if you were getting lost because once you get the map of the area, it's not hard to know where to go. The only area that's meant to be confusing is deepnest as the map doesn't even work there. I just don't get it. How is this game so renowned? Is it because the game has a lack of flaws? If I didn't know any better, I would have never thought people considered this game to be one of the greatest of all time. I get that the world is kind of cool because you have all these different parts of one kingdom and there's a lot of hidden stuff that expands outwards, but overall a lot of games do that? All I really learned from this was that people are simple and Hollow Knight is a simple game, so people like it. There's never any too difficult segments, the control scheme isn't anything weird, and the money isn't that relevant so death is only really harmful for doing spells. In conclusion, there's no point in trying to clone this game. It looks like people attached to it like a cult for whatever reason. Nothing to take away for your own game.

>>537843957
why not both?

>>537844210
how much did you play? not difficult? of course the first chunk is not difficult.

>>537844337
it's against itch.io tos

>>537844210
Hollow Knight is a masterclass in tutorialization, and that is by far the most important lesson most retards here need to learn.

>>537844773
>Hollow Knight is a masterclass in tutorialization, and that is by far the most important lesson most retards here need to learn.

>>537842134
Twin peaks s3 really sucked ass though

>>537844210
>>537807608

>>537844627
All the stuff that's not DLC because I don't know how relevant those are to Hollow Knight's popularity. Yes, I did try some of them because they're not really hidden and you wouldn't know it was DLC anyways unless you looked it up. Yes I know Godhome is cool and there's endings related, but Hollow Knight blew up before that didn't it?

>>537844210
this nigga has no soul

>>537844881
>he got filtered

>>537844210
>pajeet sitting on his ghetto's computer in the slums of mumbai trying to mathematically calculate why multimillion dollar hit resonated with people (it was made by white people for white people)

>>537844773
Fair point. The game does lead you to progress based on what you can do like the mantis claw and you can sequence break if you really know the game well. The enemies teach you how to move with jumping and dashing as well as when it's safe to attack and heal. None of the bosses and enemies feel cheap. You can almost always read what they're going to do and that sort of reiterates my point about the game keeping it simple that people like.

>>537844210
Australians (whites) are just blessed.

I need a non-serious hobby to unwind from my jobby that isn't going to just turn into a second jobby. Sick of spending my time off on 4chan.

>>537845702
Most of the bosses in Hollow Knight are just
souped-up versions of the enemies that you have to kill on your way to the boss room. The game teaches you how to beat the boss before you get to the boss.

>>537844898
Ok, anon has a good point. I don't really remember what platformer games were like before Hollow Knight. The fact that Metroid and Castlevania are the closest companions to Hollow Knight is proof that the scene wasn't doing too well considering Hollow Knight is a small thing of its own from those games. I do think that could have contributed to its success. Hollow Knight was something new to savor and that would be enough to catapult it from a regular platformer game.

>>537844994
so by tried it, you completed it? and it was easy? what game is hard in your experience. sekiro is easier imo

>>537845113
I kind of get what you mean. The story is tragic and there's a lot of tragic figures. That should make the player feel certain kinds of emotions and want to continue to fight and sought out a better solution than the initial ending. Also to learn more about this dying world that is still alive and becomes a part of you as you have experienced that it's only a small part of the rest of the Hollow Knight world. It's a world of bugs, but there's very human characteristics and themes that could thug on people's hearts.

>>537845119
>what if we take a beloved character and make him act... retarded!
you can't persuade me that Lynch wasn't visiting one of his friends or relatives in an elderly home that gave him that idea

>>537846442
I don't care for an anthill apocalypse

>>537843506
What other line of work is there where you have to make a masterpiece under artificial time constraints just to be able to afford to eat? I'm not talking about time constraints that result from the competition of the free market like drawing commissions, I mean constraints imposed by trannies on the internet just because. Worse still, the games you make have to pander to their preferences in terms of gameplay and overall theme.

>>537846691
retard

thats it, i am going to make a game for real this time

>tfw I don't like a single thing david lynch has ever made
RIP lil' nigga

>>537844210
Yea like you said. Its simple and beautiful enough to attach new players in every aspect, but complex enough for long time player to enjoy.

>But its not that deep
The point its exposure

>Is it because the game has a lack of flaws?
That too

I even have another proof. What is the definitive game franchise that will never fail in marketing and sales? That's right, it GTa, even though gameplay-wise, GTa does not have anything special other than game stability. Its literally just an ultra polished third person shooter. The thing that make it special, is that its has no speciality other than its ultra-polished. Kinda like a good steak, that's only seasoned with salt

>>537846691
Game development is actually two completely separate lines of work

if your goal is to be an "indie dev" as an identity and do all the retarded shit indie devs like the ones on twitter do then yeah you have to pander to trannies because that's who your audience is

On the other hand if you are making games with the goal of people playing them, then your audience is a completely different type of people who aren't autistic about gamejams

trying to do all the retarded shit associated with indie devs is a noob trap. It has nothing to do with producing or finishing games and in fact leads you away from the other path counterintuitively

>>537845309
Games succeed for a reason and we can't even say Silksong is a success when it makes millions because it'll succeed based solely from piggybacking Hollow Knight. If we could model Hollow Knight's reasons for success, we could replicate them with our own games and create cultural hits. It's for the best of humanity that we create more cultural hits. Not less.

>>537846691
Doctor, and McDonald cashier

>>537847129
Worldbuilding, solidity, and atmosphere. Replicate those and you will have a hit of a similar magnitude

>>537846993
Twin peaks season 1 and the first half of two is great television. Just pretend the show ends after they defeat bob

>>537845706
That could be an area of influence. It's like how Pokemon came to be because the guy liked to catch bugs. With all the wildlife and experiences you get in your region, you could come up with a lot of great ideas and that might be what lead to Hollow Knight's success.

David Lynch and I have the same favorite Stanley Kubrick film.

>>537846495
>noooo that character i liked is different after 30 years!!!
>I want every character to be exactly the same and stick exactly to their archetypes because change scares me
>Just like my favorite show 'Friends'

Time only ever moves forwards. And there's no stopping it.

People get old and change. I'm sorry you didn't like retard-Cooper-Mr-Jackpots.

>>537847509
I dont ge- oh...

David Lynch's best work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3MP27IU-I&list=PLTPQcjlcvvXFtR0R91Gh5j9Xi8cq0oN3Y

>>537847509
>>537847703

They say to market but the end result is the same as not marketing at all

>>537847929
Only idiots market. Good products sell themselves. Marketing is a total waste of time.

>>537848028
this desu

>>537846104
I didn't 112%, so that's not completed. And no, I don't think the game is easy. I just don't think it's as difficult as a lot of people make it seem like. People make Hollow Knight sound like one of the most difficult games in existence when it's not even close. There's a lot of room for error and it can get really tight sometimes in battles and platforming, but nothing like crazy perfect inputs. If anything, that might be part of the appeal. People have this impression that the game is very difficult and when they overcome the challenges, they feel powerful. It's empowering. In terms of platforming difficulty, Celeste and Geometry dash are higher. For combat, I don't really know. It's a 2D game so comparing it so a 3D game is unfair.

>>537842134
Tummy! Some people could goon to this(not me)

Been working on the map and hovering over other ships to see their stats before you engage them, as well as put in simple auto-pickups like getting fuel. Hoping to work on a boss fight next, then have a trailer and store page up by this Monday if all goes well, demo soon after.

kill kannadev

>>537840837
this question would have been outdated ten years ago

>>537848439
why would anyone play this over TF2

Bit insensitive to bring up David LYNCH while talking to an african american fella

>>537848613
Team Fortress 2?

>>537847708
you're forgetting that he was literally frozen in time, there was an idea that he might have problems readjusting to be in normal dimension again but the fake doppelganger turning his brain off just to be some savant and miraciolously win in casinos, make amazing job in insurance and avoiding death by pure nonsense is just too much. It's like taking Forrest Gump but make him even dumber while also making him even luckier.
Lynch's 3rd season is just old an man's doing whatever the fuck he feels, I bet he had enough budget to just finally let go all of his unused ideas and mush them all together producing a series without a pace with random people doing random stuff and esoteric non-knowledge

>>537848925
>"just to be some savant and miraciolously win in casinos, make amazing job in insurance and avoiding death by pure nonsense is just too much"

It wasn't luck it was indomitable perseverance of good itself.
You just didn't get it.

In this world there's two types of people
those who market
and those who dev

>>537848694
You look like that

>getting really fed up with model
>say fuck it and just randomly start moving shit around
>stumble upon something that looks cool
Every time.

ok so I'm going to start making a 3d open world MMO roguelike game you think I can finish it by Friday

>>537849351
90% of your marketing is your product. The two types of people are nodevs and yesdevs.

>>537849631
100% of marketing is your product.

Howd you make it past the first season of twin peaks without falling asleep

>>537849803
by being white

>>537849838
I mean white people do like some bland quirk chungus stuff but I am white

>>537849803
season 2 is when you fall asleep, then you wake back up for Fire Walk With Me (then fall asleep in the middle of it), then wake up again for the first half of season 3

>>537850156
Well not spiritually you ain't

>>537826419
nice

>>537849295
I prefer asuka in a katatonic state thank you

>>537849803
It's full of hot babes

>>537850213
strange but ok
>>537850519
oh yeah audrey was hot. and the scenes with the red room were interesting. that was about the only thing of note. everything else I've seen by lynch was more interesting

why are there trannies discussing television in this game development thread?

>>537851646
because they're white

>>537848694
>because they're white

>>537851646
Twin peaks inspired one of the greatest indie games ever made.

>>537851952
i look like this

pong but little girls

There's actual trans "people" on the discord

>>537852140
You are late.

>>537852145
What even is the discord lemme chase the trannoids and gaslight them

Wagie Run is basically ready for prototype showcase on demoDays, except for checkpoint gates.
>sonic has this blue red gate thingy
>pepsi-man has balloon
>crash has "c" box
>ect ect
I'm stuck m8s.... what is the best "checkpoint gate" design for a game about a wagie running his way towards his office?

>>537852324
Lmao i can actually see this becomes a 2v2 online multiplayer hit. Vtubers will play this game to the death

>>537807374 (OP)
>demo day tomorrow
oh fuck you guys do 0 shilling in /v/ dev threads I wasn't aware. Let's see if I can make it in time

>>537853109
should i post in /v/ threads? sounds kinda silly to shill my game to other gamedevs, im just here for the free gametest, I mean, the community that I love!

>>537853109
To be fair, whoever made DD fucked up. It's supposed to always be on friday est.

>>537853238
if you want to post progress and give feedback instead of replying to the usual schizos then sure.
>>537853314
Yeah and everyone is gonna be busy silksong to care about DD. Better wait for next one.

>>537853586
ok I opened the thread and its the same schizos that post here

>>537852912
Ask chat gp3

>>537852912
Two fat, human-resources women

>>537852324
fuuuuuuuuck it's been almost a year since i made this.

>>537854239
What are you making now

>>537843373
>>537846691
game jams are just an excuse for the uncreative to steal ideas
if you have good ideas dont waste them on a jam

>>537854239
Make a new lolie game you fucking fag.

>>537853821
that annoying mf was the only one mentioning demo day.

>>537807608
Good point. From what I've noticed, the hardest part of achieving success with indie games is accurate user acquisition. It's easy to get eyes on your game. Just spam it everywhere. The issue is, if your game doesn't have mass-appeal, then the impressions will lead nowhere. Many developers notice this with paid advertisements with games that have niche appeal. Spend $10,000 on ads, and get 300 purchases. Not worth. It's like shooting an arrow at a tank, or striking a knight in his chestplate with a rapier.
You need to, somehow, ensure that the exposure your game receives, is received by the most appropriate audience - people who have the highest odds of enjoying this specific sort of game.
That's it. That's the foundation of effective game promotion. Find the right audience, wherever they might be, and ensure they become fully informed of what your game is. If it's the right audience, they'll engage with the game and support it.

>>537854418
How else will I advertise my game?

I'm NOT gonna make it to demo day, but ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A SHRED OF DOUBT the next one after this one.

>>537854418
Limitation breeds creativity.
Great artists steal.

yo

>>537854852
good luck fraud but you wont be stealing from me

Fygoon hasn't had a serious meltie in a while. Well done, lad.

>>537854983
who?

>>537854142
For shit and giggle i try to ask ChatGPT to make me a low poly 3d model for a bust stop stand. Lol it can... i didn't know it can do that.

>>537854341
nothing at all, just trying to get better at 2d art , picrel is the last sketch i made about 2 weeks ago.
>>537854431
i want to but i don't have any ideas yet, i am trying to think of one for a youtube video and the next demon day

>>537855673
I thought you said you were making a lunar cheese mining game?

Achievement unlocked: completed the tutorial!

>>537844638
what? really?
>>537855673
amazing, I have more game ideas than I could ever make. what the hell is wrong with non ideafags.

>>537854438
That's because, apparently, I'm the only person who is submitting anything.

>>537835090
I fix a problem and then just lose all motivation

My game... It... used ai voice acting... Please don't shit /agdg/...

>>537858331
no worry sir

>>537858331
Nobody cares just let me skip it. I am a certified cutscene skipper.

I will follow in cr*mble's steps and make a 3D platformer to finally leave this place

If I met a genie and had 3 wishes, I'd spend the first wish on wishing for so much money that I'd never have to work a day again for the rest of my life.
I'd spend my second wish on having every /agdg/ poster be quartered, impaled, or executed in some other grizzly way.
My third wish, uh... Nuke Tel-Aviv I guess.

>>537859569
My only wish would be to instantly block any person I choose from accessing agdg or any of its associated communities ever again

>>537842134
>>537855893
>>537843825
>378 subscribers
>32 views after 4 hours
>interviewer is a hyped as fuck retard
>he seems tired

>>537859569
i'd wish that all of your games are GMI

>>537859569
I already wished that every game made by the inner circle flopped years ago. So far I am satisfied.

>>537859857
God bless you, anon

>>537859857
What'd you do if the genie told you that's impossible?

>>537861030
wish for a better genie

>>537811297
Pretty nice, but placeholder graphics really take me out from this

>>537861063
I kneel...

>>537849576
I decided to tackle a 3d open world MMO universe sim. And I did so seriously and with the total and realistic knowledge of what such a project would entail. With no pre-existing knowledge or experience. And with a 1 year time table and a determination to use as little in the way of canned assets as possible.

>>537861672
The first thing I did... Was email some youtubers. Let's see how it goes.

Finished watching that 4 hour indie game showcase and all I can say is that things are looking grim for (western) indieshits.
So much shovelware, so many clones, so many cozy games, so many card battlers, so many pixelshit platformers, so much generic forgettable music, so much uninspired slop.
I know the meme of "1000000 games get released on Steam every day" gets reposted a lot but if you make something that stands out even a bit AESTHETICALLY and GAMEPLAY-wise from all these middling copycat games you should easily make it with just a bit of word of mouth.

I also saw that Anon's guild manager game on there. Did he really pay to appear in it? Wow...

Balatro-like with dice:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3430340/Dice_A_Million/

Desert Strike-like with a stupid name but looks fun:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1710820/Cleared_Hot/

Inscryption-like, card battler, decent art:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3040930/Just_A_Shadow_Game/

One of the few games there that knew how to make an intriguing trailer:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3726180/In_Hope_Voiden/

Idle clicker with Windows 2000-like interface that looks kinda cool:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3469750/Military_Incremental_Complex/

Balatro and Project Landsword linked up?:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3631070/Beavageddon/

What the fuck am I looking at rythm mecha game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1858950/Steel_Century_Groove/

Could be funny Pirates! roguelike:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3327000/Roguebound_Pirates/

Untitled seagull game-like:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2531840/Goeland_Seagull_Adventure/

Cute card puzzle game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3522600/Demon_Bluff/

Multiplayer, side scrolling, extraction shooter?:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2415000/BLACKOUT_Zero_Point/

Nepobaby, story-rich, dice rolling adventure:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2704090/Celestial_Return/

>>537861868
>One of the few games there that knew how to make an intriguing trailer:
you're a retarded newb if you think it comes down to "knowing". A trailer is mainly presentation, and takes TIME. The amount of time and effort you would need to put into making a trailer like that is time wasted not working on the game, so it's not an option for a sane solodev even if you have the skill for it

>>537862150
It's a 30 second trailer with short cuts from the game, it doesn't require any work. Besides you probably spend more time browsing 4chan and youtube every day than it would require to put a trailer like that together.

>>537862447
You have never made a high producting value trailer in your entire life

>>537861868
>Balatro and Project Landsword linked up?:
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3631070/Beavageddon/
What the fuck does Balatro even mean to you guys anymore? Anything with RNG? That thing describes itself as a roguelike autoshooter so Vampire Survivors or Brotato should be your first thought.

>>537862518
Facts

>>537862447
If i can't recognize you from the way you talk this means you don't have a good game.

>>537862713
Balatro-like is everything that has the same aesthetics as Balatro.

>>537862734
Do you recognize me?

>>537862787
which is to say...?

>>537862964
I guess he means the CRT/TV effect filter?

>>537863132
Balatro invented that?

why are they playing stupid? it's clearly copying the balatro style, the shader filter, the aliasing, the animations, the background , even the font

>>537863592
I would agree with that if the argument is that we're reaching peak genre dillution where every single game is a roguelike that's copying one of the big hit roguelikes from the most recent years

Rise and grind wagebros...

SDV invented pixel art.

>>537863883
How did this ugly toddler-tier image make its way into a multimillion dollar game?

Kill rape and behead eric barone

I have a lot of work to do. I'm going to play games and procrastinate for a few hours before I start working. It helps alleviate the stress.

>>537863883
me on the left

So how many /agdg/ games use AI voice acting?

>>537864110
the fuck is wrong with you dude

every single gambling game

>>537861868
>Balatro-like with dice
>choose one
EEEEEEEEEEEEWWW
>Balatro and Project Landsword linked up?
>and Project Landsword
dude you have no idea
>more choose one
more eeeeewwww
>Cute card puzzle game
this one took the town of salem's mechanic, I remember struggling with adobe flash in linux to play it kek
>Idle clicker with Windows 2000-like interface that looks kinda cool
>that looks kinda cool
seriously dude, you have no idea
>What the fuck am I looking at rythm mecha game
ok enough crap for today

Copying my post from the /v/ dev thread.
I used to lurk /agdg/ a little, back in 2020~2021, but never posted.

Some years ago I started to make a game but I haven't worked on it for a long time now and it is on hold. But now that Silksong is coming out I feel like I need to show it to the public, even as a proof of existence.
So here is every thing I have playable: https://files.catbox.moe/5axwbk.rar
In the rar there is the gamemaker exe, a map and some notes.
Here is a webm of it I posted in 2020.

>>537865308
>but never posted.
>I posted in 2020
well cool game anyway. not sure what silksong has to do with anything

>>537865308
your game is perfect for our trans indie expo sister!

>>537865308
Looks neat. You should post your demos on itch.io.
Most people here are wary of downloading random files from here.

Ever since I became a gamedev I feel bitter, angry and impatient all the time. There are even a few crabs who annoy me, but none of them actually translate into motivation.

Maybe I should just accept that i'm meant to be alone until I can make something good; seeking out community before I was capable of that was a mistake, I am in my personal hell everyday but all anyone else sees is "nodev"

>>537865734
Who are you?

how the fuck do I come up with interesting game ideas, all I can think of is
>old game but new paint
>combine genres of already existing shit

are there actually any new game ideas left? is it all just recycled shit?

all i've made so far is fucking golf like 3 times with different spins on it

>>537865734
when did you arrive here? This place is nothing like it used to be. Eight years ago the atmosphere was really conducive to encouraging progress. Maybe it's not you, it's them

>>537865895
Expand upon your fantasies. My games are all power fantasy slop, and I enjoy it. I have no issue coming up with cool ideas, because they're all rooted in weapons, combat, and violence. I know of a developer whose personal passion is horror games with spooky atmospheres, so he focused heavily on that, and has found success.
What ideas, concepts that your games can revolve around, excite you the most?

>>537865895
/agdg/ keeps spamming this shit even though our community is home to two of the only originallike games in development
fucking embarassing

>>537823591
Lucid?

>>537865895
a game simulating what it's like to be made entirely out of nuts

>>537866134
nigga that's nuts

Every living human is made 50% out of nut

>>537865895
>wants to make games but has no game ideas
this is incomprehensible to me
why do you want to make them then

>>537866436
because she's mentally ill and rejected by society

>>537866436
he probably enjoys the process of making games but struggles with coming up with unique ideas
it's fairly common for devs who keep project hopping, making mechanical prototypes or game jam entries, and never finish a full game

>>537830108
Godot, pls no bully

>>537835439
It's not very obvious in the video but it's got A-skipping to see the text instantly: the last couple of pages do it. You're right about book/terminal, but I put the "writing" effect there to show that these are hastily-scribbled notes from previous adventurers.

>>537866004
shit man, you're right. maybe i just have to rediscover my passions

>>537866018
haven't been lurking on here long enough apparently, what games are you on about?

>>537866436
i have ideas but when i analyze them they are just things other people have done already. feels like reinventing the wheel

>>537852912
I now decide to make the "checkpoint gate" for Wagie Run, as a combination of "stop sign", speed bump, and surveillance camera.
>The speedbumps and stop sign will be spread out horizontally, indication the checkpoint line
>When the player approach to checkpoint line, the camera will look at player, and emit yellow light
>When the player cross the checkpoint line, camera will flash a bright white light, as if the player has been screenshotted

The design behind this, is looking back to the /biz/ WEF humor plot. Sure, in this prototype level i'll upload to demo days, there will be only 1 or 2 checkpoints... But in the final version of the game, there will be around 4-5 checkpoints on each level, as if cameras are everywhere, and the government are ever watchful.

Ill post the end result when im done making it

>>537865808
I cannot say. I've lost my heart long ago; My soul is in shambles, and yet... my pride is fully intact. Being too forthcoming with my identity would prove to be detrimental.

>>537865909
If I get into details, I might invite unwanted speculation. If there is an inner circle and any of them read threads, I am likely being watched by them. Relatively speaking, I have not been here very long.

>>537866615
>they are just things other people have done already
doesn't matter, just make it anyways
you'd be surprised at how unique it can end up when you're deep into development and begin doing things "your way"

I've been experimenting with making seamless 3d textures with chatgpt but the style varies way too much. Anyone have a workflow for this?

>>537861868
Goated post. Thanks for taking the time to link everything.
I wanted to make a game like Roguebound Pirates, wonder why no one came with that concept before. I'll be watching their development closely

>>537866963
>If there is an inner circle

...and there is

You do know that if you delete your entire digital presence and go live a normal life you'll escape from this with zero consequences, right?
The more time you spend here, the worse things will be when it all comes crashing down.
I say this for your own benefit: leave.
You have no idea how bad things will get if you stick around here and keep shitting up the place.
People *really* hate you.

>>537867353
If I wanted a normal life I wouldn't be a game dev. I'm doing it because I want to.

LOL

I'm playing soothing music on youtube to keep me happy

>>537855825
i put that on hold after getting burnt out from making the character controller work with spherical gravity.
had to use lil chud as a placeholder

>>537867648
Oshdev...

>>537867353
I don't hate him, just a wee bit of contempt.

>>537867353
The hell is wrong with you m8? Who hurt you in the past? These days its rare for me to say "kill yourself" to a random anon, but seeing your posts each thread here, i might as well suggest you that for your own sake

>>537865909
i miss the steam group hangouts..
calling hopoo a fag, telling the MMO man that i want to fuck the robot... tears

>>537865909
April last year. Got lucky on crypto, and sudden comfy remote stable job, made me have lots of free time, i decide to finally make my own game.
I move my lurking area from /biz/ and /pol/ to here. If you see the archive, you might find me namefagging "/pol/fag tourist"

>>537868082
...you guys have hangouts in the past? Why not do it again this year?

>>537868082
now he's a multibillionaire and you're still here

>>537868464
because this place is flooded with idiots who got into game development because it's trendy or because they want to feed their village in rural Bengal. There's nothing left of the former /agdg/. I'm the only consistent poster here who cares about game development in any way that is more than superficial

>>537867648
i look like this

>>537868579
So you're Blue9Fairy?

>>537868795
Blue9Fairy isn't a consistent poster

>>537868498
last i heard he was a wagie
not sure what went wrong... maybe the officespace he had was too expenny

>>537868009
lol

>>537866963
>"i am being watched by the inner circle"
>thinking you're that important
literally nobody knows who you are. the only thing i want to know is what your game is

>>537867353
this anon is trolling btw

>>537826419
Added a placeholder stamina meter.

My game is releasing today

>>537869337
But... there's only one game releasing today

WAIT

>>537869337
my game is releasing tommorow, but hollow knight doesn't scare me

>>537868832
Well whatever it is, you guys should focus on posting progress and replying to actual discussion about games. These past one and a half year, in my opinion, the thing that made this general shit, is because y'all replying to indian shills and rage baits.

Is it really that hard to ignore morons who just post stupid pointless texts like these >>537830927 >>537843258 >>537859569 >>537867353 , instead of replying to discussion and progress report like these >>537807608
>>537848439 >>537852912 >>537854454 >>537865308
?

Even fucking /pol/ can do it, so why you guys cant?

>>537869269
Will the finish product be in numbers, or stamina bar, anon?

>>537869590
An actual stamina bar.
As I said, it's a placeholder. Raw numbers will just help me debug better.

>>537869504
You really don't seem to understand. The overwhelming majority of the people both here and on the discord are not here to make games or discuss game development, so they outnumber us. Nobody wants to do anything about it or chase the trolls out so the serious devs just leave, which leaves you with nobody but the nodev shitposters, which is why you have the kind of attention distribution you see now.

Slight addition on the buttons, the blinking effect on coven acquisition now shows the change as well. Also the numbers briefly blink green/red when a unit is spawned/lost. Barely readable in the webm but that is just due to the decoder. Finally, the number for controlled spawners will turn orange if any spawner is blocked due to limit reached or missing artifact. Guess that’s it. See you on dd tomorrow.

>>537869975
Are you going to participate?

>>537868464
steam group chat sux
>Why not do it again this year?
everyone sane probably already left for the discord

>>537870136
the discord is full of the biggest bottom feeders stupid troon

>>537865617
>Looks neat. You should post your demos on itch.io.
I never got to completely finish a portion of it to make a demo. I got stressed with the art and keep adding more enemies and areas until I got burned out.

>Most people here are wary of downloading random files from here.
I see. I just don't really have any other way to show to people now. I never got any real feedback while developing it and that might have helped to make me lose motivation. The most I got is some friends saying it is really hard, and that could have caused them to become uninterested. The whole thing is in the download link, 12 areas and 6 bosses, should take around 4 to 6 hours to complete.

>>537868809
sakura-chan after a long day of not getting attention from fat balding ojisans

>>537870083
Sure.

>>537870521
: )

>>537869846
>which leaves you with nobody but the nodev shitposters
Well i saw some genuine progress reports, so you're wrong. Also, you guys have a discord server? I thought it was just a /v/3 thing

>>537869846
>chase the trolls out
how do you expect to do that?

>>537869975
Looks soulful m8

>>537870687
By making them feel gatekept, unwelcome, and inferior to those of us who take the medium seriously and are good at it

>>537854983
he's too busy shitting up the /v/ thread

>>537870641
>the majority is X and this is what defines the whole space
>well no I saw some examples of Y so you're wrong lol
do you have brain damage?

Devs who release the first public version of their game as a test demo with little to no other mechanics than moving around aren't going to make it.

Prove me wrong.

>>537870421
>I got stressed with the art and keep adding more enemies and areas until I got burned out
>I never got any real feedback while developing it and that might have helped to make me lose motivation
Why not make a scheduled build every progress. First you make a barely functional main menu, that has "play" and "quit" button (just to navigate to the gameplay scene), and then you build every time you add new feature, even if its just 2 new implemented in the game.

This way, you will still get stressed to make you move forward, but you won't get burned out and lose motivation, from the attention you'll get.

>>537807374 (OP)
This is the Inner Circle Review Commission.
Please reply to this post with your game, and you shall recieve feedback when the day of demos shall commeth.

>>537870756
sorry xister but...uhhhmm... is not my fault inner circle's games keep flopping

>>537870971
Fuck off and kill yourself osur. You'd figure you would have learned some humility by now

>>537870864
Its you who don't get it. What, you think everyone here will make it? Your job is to reply to genuine posts and discussion, while ignoring pajeet doomposting. THATS IT

>BUT BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF REAL DEV-
WHO CARES ABOUT MAJORITY FAGGOTS AND MINORITY DEV. Engage to genuine posts, and ignore baits. Thats it. Its not that fucking deep

>>537837370
Nta but >>537836942 is right in asking why you want to make a game. You should make a game that you yourself want to play. If the genre is popular is a completely irrelevant question.

The process ofaking the thing is what's going to fuel your want to make it; if you only focus on gamedeving for monetary reasons you are going to hate it with every fiber of your being.

>>537870756
you guys care way too much about the thread, people still post progress here all the time and others get advice when needed
nothing wrong with some harmless funposting in between that

>>537871169
>ofaking
*Of making

>>537871024
What exactly is the inner circle? What do their games look like? I think my game could be real inner circle material.

>>537871118
they overwhelm the thread with noise which derails all discussion and puts off potential high-quality newcomers you dense motherfucker

when i make it i will fund a cure for samefagging schizos
aggy diggy will be free

>>537866660
Its basically like this....

>This is the Inner Circle Review Commission
Ehh what the hell. >>537870971 , if thats true and you're not a larping, here's the 50% progress of 2 months ago. https://youtu.be/XMb7EV78dqs
The whole Prototype is basically done, but i still need some stuff to tweak so no video progress yet

>>537871356
>puts off potential high-quality newcomers you dense motherfucker
Doesn't matter. The point is you think too much. What matter is you reply on good posts, and ignore low quality baits, no matter the density or many derailments. Thats it.

If you're too dense to understand what im saying, then you're at loss

>>537871682
You're only here to blow off steam, not because you care about the quality of the threads or about game development. You're a nihilist and an individualist which means your worldviews are broken and always lead to ruin. Your stupid worldview already brought us to this point in time. I'm telling you the cure.

>>537871682
ill reply to whatever i want you wannabe janny faget
cry about it

Inner Circle?
I barely know her!

>>537871181
>>537871682
There's a handful of losers (some flopdevs and some nodevs) who strongly associate their personal identities with this place and so they strongly care about the outward appearance of the thread. They imagine up these hypothetical parasocial situations where actually successful devs like Hopoo or Blow bringing up this place in passing in an interview or something so that they can be proud of themselves for "being a part" of something greater.

Is it trivial to turn an online co-op game into a splitscreen game or is there a lot of work involved?

>>537871964
It is trivial.

ChatGPT is getting more retarded, how do I clean up its memory and make it smarter again?

Is Godot Script as nasty as it looks?

>>537871797
>Focus on not replying to baits
>"you're a nihilist"
>still posting here because i wanna see this general good again, not for my sake
>"you're an individualist"
What the fuck?

>>537872030
you cant, it will just get worse and worse as they keep meddling with it to try to make sure it doesnt name the jew

>>537871880
>where actually successful devs like Hopoo or Blow bringing up this place in passing in an interview or something so that they can be proud of themselves for "being a part" of something greater.
I'll be one of them, in the near future. Even if it turns out i made something that make me a millionaire, i will not forget this general. Screenshot this

I absolutely do not care about silksong. Haven't even played hollow knight

Have you guys come up with your inspirational sob story for when you "make it" and somebody's interviewing you about that part in your game but like, in a chill way, and you shock the podcast listeners / viewers by revealing a depth to your game!?

>>537872190
me neither but you seem to care enough to talk about something I dont even think during the day
so you're just a gay faggot coper

Yup. There you go. The flopdevs and nodevs are fantasizing again.

>>537872230
>somebody's interviewing you about that part
Im not on that part yet m8. Still devving silently in my break hours on my 9 to 5

>>537872130
Made years ago and image is still true.

What program would be the best option for making a game like pic related?

>>537872653
Unreal Engine 5

>>537822570
>telling players what upgrades are good

>>537872753
LOL

>>537872252
Coping with what?

>>537829505
and if your game makes $143,000 that means that gaben gets $43,000 and you get $0 after paying off your debts.
Isn't that great?

>>537829505
Hi underspacedev

>>537867353
Who are you talking to?

>>537872996
His name is Kevin Transwiz

>>537867353
*kneels*
INNER CIRCLE

GRANT ME YOUR BENEVOLENCE
RIDDLE ME THE ONE WHO MUST DELETE THEIR PRESENCE AND BE BANISHED AND THY WILL BE DONE

KILL OSUR AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE INNER CIRCLE

>>537871549
I mean I am larping, but I am going to play demos as well, and now I'll definitely play yours.

>>537873298
DEMO DAY = TOTAL DEATH DAY

>>537873329
>aggydagger trying not to play the shittiest timewasting demos ever created by human hands challenge - Impossible

>>537872653
GameMaker
or make an actual ROM for your target vintage console

>>537873329
Ey thank you m8. Post yours and i'll play it as well

Listen, guys, I will remove the AI voice from my game if you agree to VOICE ACT in my game, alright? Do you understand? You must confirm if you understand this.

>>537873771
I suck at voice acting, but if you want then why not?

>>537873771
sounds like fun

>>537873771
LEARN HOW TO DO IT YOU FUCKING GIT

>>537871880
>>537871852
I'm sorry. I mentioned that they were likely watching me and now they're here; I was curious and wanted to see for myself, and I saw exactly the kind of tendencies I would expect. At least I'm not the only one who's seeing it, either that or it's confirmation bias.

There are people here who believe we won't ever make anything, I don't believe that about myself, nor do I believe it for any of you. You are here because some part of you is committed to gamedev. I found myself briefly browsing here a few years ago, with no ambitions of making a game, and this year i've been learning Unity. If you are looking for a sign to be hopeful and optimistic this is it.

There has to be SOME resource on how to code good player movement from scratch without using the 8 billion premade tools that every jewnity video tells me to use. I dont even care about releasing a fucking game, i just want to LEARN WHAT I WANT TO LEARN!!!

WHY DOES JUMPING AROUND IN MARIO 64 FEEL SO GOOD AND WHERE DO I LEARN THE EXACT MATH AND PROGRAMMING SKILLS TO MAKE A CHARACTER FEEL GOOD IN A SIMILAR WAY
WHY DOES JUMPING AROUNF IN ANY UNREAL ENGINE SLOP FEEL TERRIBLE AND AUTOMATED AND CLUNKY AND BAD AND HOW TO I AVOID THAT

WHY IS THE MATH AND HOWS AND WHYS BEHIND ALL THIS SO FUCKING HARD TO PIN DOWN? I CANT FIND ANY DOCUMENTATION ON HOW TO CODE GOOD MOVEMENT ANYWHERE

>>537874852
have you considered looking at the code for Mario 64 and the code for the Unreal character controller

I got a lot of shit for my queek model.
many anons asked what the end goal was so I started doing concept art in mspaint so I know what to model and texture beforehand

anyone wanna weigh in on low resolution textures vs. a single "palette" texture where you assign each face a single color?
what would give the best result if your art is shit

>>537874852
Super Mario 64 uses fake sines, that's the secret.

>>537874852
Hire xoomers

>>537874446
Yes, the hard workers will make it, while the doomposters will keep being salty until they commit suicide from what could have been. See you at the top

>>537874852
Because it is fucking complicated

>>537874926
Why does unreal have a character controller? Why? It feels like shit, so why does it exist at all? Why is coding your own not industry standard? I want to code my own.
>>537874926
I TRIED BUT THERES A LOT OF IT TO READ AND I CANT COMPREHEND MOST OF IT BUT I GUESS I CAN TRY AGAIN
>>537875009
What on earth are "fake sines" there a billon videos about subpixels but i assume that doesnt work well in 3d

>>537875395
figure it out

Making games is fun, but its useless

>>537875003
Colour per face will give significantly better results if you're shit at art and will let you use a low-res texture while avoiding visible pixels on your model. It's a very generic artstyle though and when I see it it just makes me think "yeah this guy watched Unity tutorials on youtube". Your queek was pretty soulful.

>>537873743
It's Bainok: City of Fighters, but I haven't made enough progress since last DD for a new entry.

>>537875445
Ive been trying to "figure it out" for months and theres NO FUCKING RESOURCES I CAN FIND ABOUT THE ACTUAL NITTY GRITTY OF THE MATH

>>537875616
So you're in the Inner Circle too..

>>537875603
Do you dont know because you are retarded? Ok, thanks for admitting your failure.

What's the over/under on incorporating ideas suggested by people while the game is still in development?

For example Notch took the Minecraft name from a forum suggestion, and loads of mechanics ideas, can they come back later suing for stealing their intellectual property? Should you get everything in a contract?

>>537875537
damn anon, thanks for the compliment.
I guess I should just keep drawing shitty textures then, for the sake of soul

>>537875619
>can't figure out how to bing bing wahoo
Retard

How bad is Godot’s wokeness can they censor my game? I hear they ban customers for not being wokeslop

*adjusts glasses*

>>537875708
All aggy is the inner circle anon. Just not all of them know it yet.

>>537875616
M8 if you post it on this demoday ill play it.

>>537875835
If you're even asking just do a contract lmao

>>537875876
If its so easy, then post all the math i need to understand right now, go ahead, if youre so smart then explain how to create good feeling player movement in so much detail that i can make a good feeling game in raylib with only your advice and nothing else. Go, post it. Ive been looking and reading at all tyoes of stuff online for 8 months and cant find what i need to find anywhere. So if youre so smart then post it all now.

>>537874852
You gotta learn how the different functions plot (if they somehow never taught you in school) and then make up your on mind based on that.
For example you might notice that the standard parabola curve (quadratic function) normally used to 'realistically' model a jump has only a very narrow hump at the top. So if you jump is supposed to spend a longer time near the pinnacle, you perhaps would rather sth. like a piece of a sine curve >>537875009

what if I made a website on which you pay $3 to view spinnin 3D model and I call this art?

>>537875708
You're in /agdg/ a relatively small circle community of gamedevs, inside 4chan, a relatively small circle of group in Internet space. You're already in the inner circle kek

>>537874262
How am I supposed to voice over 50 different voices all by myself, seething tranny?

How hard would it be to use chatgpt to write plugins for me to fix all the things I hate about rpgmaker's hard coded stuff

>>537876183
I agree

>>537876270
I need something provocative

>>537876243
You dont. Just use AI man, and stop replying to pajeet nodevs

>>537876162
Step1: make a character controller
Step2:.make all the animations and sounds
Step3: fuck with it until you're satisfied
Retard

>>537876167
I have no idea what any of that means that literally all gibberish to me but if understanding that will help me make better feeling movement then please tell me where i can study all that

>>537876243
If I can do it so can you

>>537875971
It's pretty bad. The compiler template exporter even scans your project for nigger and other such words and introduces stutter if it finds it

>>537876408
So you dont know any of the math at all? So you know nothing about movement at all? Ok.

>>537876539
most shitters just do some bastardized forward euler like
v = v + a * dt
x = x + v* dt
and the physics are complete shit ass trash diarrhea

>>537876539
Nigga stop talking and use characterController. Use lerp, normalize, ect.

>BUT BUT THE LE MATH
THERE IS NO EXACT MATH IN THIS. What you want is a movement thats not "shit", a "fun" movement. Thats an abstract concept, unlike math. You code, you brute force, until you are satisfied.

>>537876653
>and the physics are complete shit ass diarrhea
I started this subject because i want my movement physics to be not shit, i want them to feel good.

I have several different 3D characters for my game, they have the same body build and animation sets so they can share rigs, but there will also be slight variations in how they're animated since some have long hair etc that needs animating and some don't

Are there any guides on how to approach this to make it as efficient as possible and reuse models, rigs, and animations where possible instead of making everything separately from scratch? Should I make and animate a lowest common denominator blank mannequin, then copy it and modify each to fit the different characters?

Any resources on how to efficiently approach modeling and rigging for games would be nice

>>537876537
So why do people still give money to shit like this? What ever happened to go woke go broke?

>>537876676
>nigga
Black detected, opinion rejected
>use characterController
Blatant crabbery and laziness, opinion double rejected
>THERE IS NO EXACT MATH
opinion triple rejected.

>>537875708
Not every yesdev is in the inner circle, I can only guess who is in it or not.

>>537876782
First, you learn to use build in Unity characterController. And then you search in google, how to move that characterController. And then you will see that the movement is shit stiff, you you search how to use lerp, slerp, and normalize().

The exact number will not exist. You will need to brute force all of those. Maybe next time, say "hey anons, i want to learn about movement, but i do not know what i want to search, nor do i know what i want to ask. Please help" instead of "LE MATH WHAT IS IT?"

>>537876426
I guess start here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_of_a_function
Wikipedia is so dense on mathematics.
Or maybe this is a kind of overview? Lacks trigonometry functions though. https://math.libretexts.org/Courses/University_of_California_Davis/UCD_Mat_21A%3A_Differential_Calculus/1%3A_Functions/1.1%3A_Functions_and_Their_Graphs

>>537876426
>i have no idea what any of this means
Are you brown? This is literally 9th grade US math we are talking about here. You are never gonna make it.

>>537877006
Im not using unity, raylib doesnt have a built in character controller or "lerp" or "slerp" or "normalize()". I want to learn how to make something myself not move around lego pieces.

>>537877325
this is bait. You’re telling me you can’t even be bothered to look up what a lerp is? It is a one line function. I can see why it took you 8 months to be a retard