Thread 538112221

Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
/ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E

>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
https://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailer
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>537657684

XVI is STILL a terrible game.

XVI is a gay game.

Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.

>>538112298
BASED FIRST POST BEST POST

As long as no one makes negative remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, or Remake, we will be fine.

FFXVI is the best one.
Its 10/10 quality lives rent-free in the minds of shitposters far and wide.
Undoubtedly, it will stand the test of time as a fondly remembered Final Fantasy.

What morale can we extract from last thread?

If VIIR does it, it's okay.
If XVI does it, it's not okay.

Before you make negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.

>>538112298
FPBP

>>538112543
...that ruined the FF franchise

>>538112530
>morale
Morale? None whatsoever. Only the zest for the downfall of their bogeymen held by people who hate Final Fantasy and want to see it fail.

Moral? Well, I think the moral is that one bad apple ruins the bunch. Unfortunately, the bad apple thinks everyone else is the bad apple.

>>538112657
Sadly true.

>>538110086
>And I can confront any shitposter if I'm with Lightning, the strongest Heroine...
Holy basedola. I kneel. Remaster imminent.

>>538112657
Grim, but it has to be said.

>>538112748
cringe

>>538112657
This

>>538011375
The best part of this image is how effortlessly Claire mogs the plastic pretenders on the right
Like they look fine or whatever, I like them both. But it's just no contest.

>>538112657
*Saved
and continues to save
Without him you faggots would be playing gacha spinoffs cashing in on memberberries forever
You wouldn't even have your precious 7Rslop if XIV didn't fund the whole project

Gays and tranny people tend to project their mental disorders outward. This is due to their unconscious anxiety about their identity, methinks. Deep down their mind understands that its host is sick, so it activates the host's defense mechanism through projection, trying to create such a picture of perception so that the "patient" thinks that the world around is not hostile to they/them, as if they/them have a place in this world. Many misunderstandings in the status of Final Fantasy characters are related to this. For example, nothing in Faris arc strictly indicates that she is a lesbian or a trans person, but for the mentally ill she is an idol and they constantly bring up her in conversation when talking about woke elements in the games of the series. Another example is how Vanille and Fang were made into lesbian icons, although they, unlike some, did not kiss on camera and nothing in the game script clearly indicates their orientation. Another and most telling example is bros from XV, and I doubt that it needs to be explained.

These people confuse sincere feeling of sisterhood, or true friendship, with their mental erotic disorders. The main characters of Final Fantasy have always been about the first and second, and never about the third. The only exception is XVI. I am very worried about this change.

>>538112748
What color are Lightning's panties?

>>538112657
The Yoshida Cultist is going to have a meltdown over this, but you're correct.

>>538113095
You can't reason these cultists. They're literally obsessed.

>>538113105
You are correct

Hopefully Kitase will be fired/retire soon and Hamaguchi sent to gacha prison

>>538113105
Meanwhile VIIR has Cloud going tranny, but I don't see the Final Fantasy House bringing this up, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

>>538113352
see >>538112531
The same goes for Nomura and Kitase.

>>538113413
That explains why this worrisome cult shits irrationally on everything in XVI but gives VIIR a free pass, despite its troonification of the most famous FF protagonist.

>>538113352
I'm personally willing to forgive anything as long as Yoshida isn't involved.

This thread sucks.

>>538113539
Just like any modern FF game

>>538113494
...anything?

>>538113105
>The only exception is XVI. I am very worried about this change.
We must stand firm against this menace at all costs.

>>538113129
It's already going into the night.

>>538113110
>What color are Lightning's panties?
Gulp.....claret red

>>538113095
>continues to save
>dawntrail
>just announced that 7.3 onward would be a new starting point for the way they make the game
>immediately turns around and makes the next step of the relic weapon more tomestome grinding slop that we already got our fill of in endwalker

>>538113352
If the 7R cultists didn't have those double standards
they wouldn't have any standards at all.
I guess that's why they slurp up the DEI Ubisoft slop and ask for more

Not a regular here. Going to replay Zodiac Age on Steam. I read the pastebin and didn't really find any new info for XII. The bin doesn't mention the Steam version but I'm assuming it's just the PS4 version based on the listed features.
I know there's a few gripes with that version but I just can't remember what they are. Obviously I'm going to play with JP audio. What mods should I install? Hoping to maximize sovl.

>>538113539
Better than XVI, at least.

>>538113691
The pastebin is ancient but PedOOP won't replace it.
Steam version with Struggle for Freedom mod.

>>538113691
Blame the local shitposter. Someone made an updated pastebin but out resident shitposter didn't like it because there was a tiny joke reference in there somewhere so he scrapped the whole thing.

>>538113310
>>538113352
>>538113413
>>538113479
>>538113494
>>538113591
>it was an FFVII shitpost the whole time
Color me surprised. Not. I've seen this song and dance a million times before.

>>538113691
OP's pastebin is a decade old.
Check out this one with most every major title.
https://pastebin.com/CN4a45nR

>>538113691
Except for the French translation being awful, I don't remember any big complain about Zodiac Age over vanilla FFXII.
Maybe something about the spheres grid?

>>538113095
>cashing in on memberberries forever
...Nothing would really change then?

>>538113660
>more tomestome grinding slop that we already got our fill of in endwalker
This is an incredibly disingenuous thing to say. Endwalker was *only* Tomestones, and people were understandably upset (or pleased) with this. The first Dawntrail step took me way longer to finish than I thought it would, so I'm glad I only have to do it once. The second step is bullshit because it's roulettes rather than OC, but I'm also glad I don't need to do it every single time. Ideally, it would have been something to do with Forked Tower, but I think they avoided that due to the controversy surrounding it being unqueueable.

>>538113352
>Meanwhile VIIR has Cloud going tranny
As a person, as a human being, he has nothing to do with your wet dreams. His emotional reactions to the cross-dressing situation perfectly show that he doesn't like it. His attitudes towards women and his male friends perfectly show that he is a completely normal person without erotic mental illness, ready to support a male friend at the right moment (as he does in the scene with barret in Rebirth) and ready to kiss a woman if he sees the need for it and wants it himself.
This judgment of yours only confirms my hypothesis, unfortunately: some mentally unhealthy people see some weird eroticism where there is nothing but a silly joke of writers at best.

Very sad state of affairs.

>>538113892
You don't understand.
FFXIV monthly subscription MMO memberberry good
FFVII Remake project AAA single player RPG memberberry bad.

>>538114003
>AI slop
Man, the cult is really desperate to defend their shitty game.

>>538113892
>>538114013
I thought the narrative is that cultists don't play Final Fantasy. How would they even know who this is?

>>538113352
Cloud reluctantly disguises himself as a woman to save the woman he cares about. Not the same thing.

>>538114115
People who are knowledgeable about yoshida hate yoshida.
People who are ignorant about yoshida like yoshida.

>>538113892
XIV has unique stories though, it just carefully references FF.

>>538113660
>corpospeak
>blahblahblah
>"we aren't changing anything please understand"
Yoshida needs to shit or get off the pot

>>538114117
I literally never set foot in that place you posted, meaning it's not mandatory to save Tifa. Meaning Cloud went in there on his own.
So he really is a tranny.

>>538113892
You can tell this one hurt him bad, he usually doesn't deflect as quickly.

>>538113707
Niot a high bar

>>538114175
You keep parroting this but you're not knowledgeable at all.
I know everything there is to know about Yoshida and I still like him.

>>538114236
I skipped the cutscene where Dion kisses Terrence, therefore it didn't happen and Dion isn't gay. :)

>>538114331
>Niot a high bar
Cringe larper.

>>538114081
>FFVII is a shitty game!
Wow....the cult going mask off at full force tonight.
What happened? Oh yeah....Claire was featured in an FFVII EC crossover

>>538114175
Your made up, incorrect adage does not logically fit as a response, anon. I asked you to reconcile the narrative that XIV players don't play Final Fantasy games with the narrative that it is memberberries.

I'm not disagreeing with you. Obviously a game full of homages and references to Final Fantasy would be in some capacity selling memberberries, which is also what Remake is also doing. I'm just asking you how you reconcile your narrative that XIVfags don't play Final Fantasy with your other narrative that they only play it for memberberries.

>>538114175
This

>fatherless interrupts a VII discussion to make it about xim
Man, growing up without a father really made it thin-skinned. Now, even the lack of attention struck xim nerves...

>>538114385
*7R and Rebirth are okay games. They are shitty because they tarnish a classic.
VII is a great game.

>>538114354
I skipped every cutscene with Clive and Jill.
Clive died a virgin.

Man, still going. And all of this because yesterday someone said Remake was a 7/10 and asked other people what they thought of it. I still don't understand how or why they started melting down about Kitase.

VII cultists are really insecure, huh?

>>538114175
Based and true. Unfortunately, Yoshi-P is a compulsive liar.

>>538114549
In FFVII, Cloud reluctantly disguises himself as a woman to save the woman he cares about
In FFVIIR, Cloud reluctantly disguises himself as a woman to save the woman he cares about
In the original game, you could flirt with Don Corneo, but in FFVIIR Cloud only insults Corneo and basically mocks him for being a literal homosexual degenerate.

>>538114687
I mean, they genuinely believed they were reincarnations of the game's characters, so...
VIIRgins are really insane.

>>538114554
FFXVI is the most heterosexual game in the series and the first to show actual sex having male and female couples naked.
Something the anti-Yoshi conveniently forgets.
The previous record sex-haver is Boko.

>>538114687
This might seem as an attempt to change topics, but I need to say it : Nomura should be burned at the stake for these fucking boots.

>>538114785
They didn't have sex, they just hugged nakedly.

>>538114870
Cope.

>>538114003
You've done some serious damage, partner. FFVII shitposters are circling the drain.

>>538113129
Fraid so. They're gonna cry about VII throughout the entire thread, sadly.

>>538114785
I skipped that cutscene therefore it never happened. Try again sweety. :)

Only a VIIRgin could melt down for multiple days over a post that didn't praise Remake enough.

>>538114785
Based and Kweh'd

>>538114870
> they just hugged nakedly
Just like Barnabas with Ultima...
Oh...no...our narrative...

>>538114785
>Something the anti-Yoshi conveniently forgets.
The Yoshidahater is a very forgetful person.

>>538115081
Oh no no no, you struck the fatherless' nerves!
Now xe's going to rage even more and follow with xis self-humiliation ritual!

>>538115182
lol

>The thread always, always comes to life with activity the moment I arrive and say something positive like "FF games are good games actually, and the developers who make them are talented and I respect their work"
>Naoki Yoshida is not an FF developer however. He's a corporate figurehead. So....

Playing FFXIII, why is Lightning so insufferable. Am I meant to find her sympathetic? She's a complete bitch to everyone around her, all I want is see her get a good rape and get broken.

>>538115420
>The thread comes alive when I shitpost and bait
brilliant observation

>>538115182
>Press R1 for Cinematic Cuddle
>Mash the Square button to Tongue Wrestle with Terrance
Something ain't right over at CS3.

>>538115551
Now you know why we all hate XIII. You won't find a single person here genuinely liking this piece of shit.
It's a linear piece of shit with doormat characters letting Lightning walk on them because she's the corrupt producer's waifu.

FFXIII is LITERALLY the twinkle twinkle nora rock me of Final Fantasy.

This thread still sucks.

>>538115420
Yeah, you tend to walk into the thread, make seething, scathing shitpost replies to a few posts that upset you, then you start posting Lightning and saying "lol looks like the cultists are melting down about Lightning again!" but what actually happened is you made a few shitposts and then you ignore every post that calls you on your bullshit, which almost always involves that thing you do where you clearly reply to a specific post, but you don't link to that post. It's your calling card, if you will.

Hope that clears things up.

>>538115551
Play till the end. You will see her true nature as a person. Not everything that seems to be at first glance is actually true.

>>538115551
Can I interest you in a Toblerone?

>>538115831
And also that fatherless "forget" the many discussions that happens whenever it's not shitposting here to forget how he failed to sell his WoW gold.

>>538115782
Nah, you get to enjoy the latest heroine meltdown.

>>538115831
Lol, looks like the cultists are melting down about Lightning AGAIN!

>>538115551
The cast of XIII is easily the most unlikeable cast of any Final Fantasy game. Lightning is especially offensive because she's just a cunty girlboss. She's the original pink haired raging feminist. I don't know if you're supposed to like her or not, but disliking her is quite normal.

Back before the Lightning avatarfag showed up, everyone universally agreed that XIII was shit. Now that XIII is being used to shitpost about XVI, the shitposter(s) likes it.

>>538115714
Oh she's the producer's favourite, that's why she's such a bitch. Makes sense.

>>538115835
>Play till the end
lol no, this game is trash. Fuck off, cultist.

>>538115831
Bullseye.
You struck a nerve, the fatherless is really, really angry.

I like how the literal shitposting cultists immediately dogpiled on an FFXIII samefag from the fatherless spammer
Jump from VII to XIII to XV shitposts all you want......XVI still stinks.

>>538115835
I did. It sucked mega ass.
>>538115980
This.

>>538115942
I'm telling you, the show we'll see on the day the Remaster is announced will be unforgettable. It will be the most spectacular meltdown in /ffg/ history.

>>538116134
>the fatherless is really, really angry
Indeed, it is...
It's even back to its usual "r-r-r-remake soon" cope, lmao.

None of this would have happened if Kevin Nash wasn't raped in the summer of 1992.

>>538116164
>I like how the literal shitposting cultists immediately dogpiled on
meant for >>538112657

>>538115980
>Back before the Lightning avatarfag showed up
Which one? The one spamming poems, or the current fatherless loser who tried to impersonate him and failed pathetically?

>>538116190
>I did. It sucked mega ass.
Ah, then you should know that Lightning is not really a girlboss bitch at all, but a very caring, empathetic, emotionally fragile, sentimental, a little bit silly and hypocritical, but feminine person.
Nice job anon!

>>538116164
'fraid so

>>538116194
>I'm telling you, the show we'll see on the day the Remaster is announced will be unforgettable. It will be the most spectacular meltdown in /ffg/ history.
You're doing it again, Lightning avatarfag. Remember when you made shitposts for your bogeyman about how upset you think he would be able Remake being announced for Switch? And then no one was upset?

People hate (You), not XIII. People generally do not regard XIII in high esteem because its characters all suck, but people don't hate XIII, that hate (You). No one is going to care if and when a Remaster Trilogy gets released. Quite frankly, it's needed, because that shit doesn't even work correctly on PC.

>>538116194
I think this is what has gotten him so riled up in the last few months. The signs are everywhere, and it's causing his schizophrenia to become uncontrollable.

>>538116279
>1992
>in my /ffg/
/pw/ is the most shitposty board on this entire website lmfao
Naoki Yoshida was raped in the scintillating fragrant spring of 2025

>>538116450
...did you even play the fucking game?!? Nothing you said ever happens in the game.

I'd rather just discuss Fran if its all the same.

>>538116550
I liked the part of FFXII where she did absolutely nothing.

>>538116507
>>538116279
>>1992
>>in my /ffg/
>/pw/
What am I missing here? Why is this something that the biggest shitposters on /ffg/ know about but that I don't know about?

Tifa!

>>538116450
Please don't feed that troll. It's the fatherless spammer false flagging. Observe the plan

>>538116503
That fatherless always does that. It comes in a peaceful thread, shitposts, and then cries about being told to fuck off. He needs to be a victim so much that he actively antagonizes innocent people.

The Viera look better in XIV.

>>538116635
>best Tifa
ECfags are eating good.

>>538116739
Why are you doing another falseflag, Lightning avatarfag? No one thinks that. The Viera in XIV are just humans with bunny ears.

>Saying anything positive about XIV is a falseflag
Interesting.

>>538116540
>Nothing you said ever happens in the game.
It absolutely does.

>EVERY SINGLE POST I DON'T LIKE WAS WRITTEN BY LIGHTNING AVATARFAG!! REEEE

The psychosis that occurs when XIII Remaster drops.......Priceless.

>>538116804
>Viera in XIV are just humans with bunny ears
So they are not. Don't speak about things you do not know, cretin, you are only embarrassing yourself further.

>>538116739
This. XIV >>>>> XII

>>538116882
No, Lightning avatarfag. You are saying absolutely ridiculous things that literally no one thinks.

>Kate did nothing wrong
>Wuk is better than Clive
>Dawntrail is better than XVI
>XIV Viera look better than real Viera

No one thinks this shit.

>>538116993
Is this modded? It looks better than when I played?

I will never lose faith in myself even in the most terrible battle, as long as I am shoulder to shoulder with Lightning, the most caring heroine...

>>538117001
>>Wuk is better than Clive
>>Dawntrail is better than XVI
>>XIV Viera look better than real Viera
All true. Cope harder, shitposter.

>>538117096
So in other words, you're a deluded schizophrenic who thinks his waifu is sitting next to him, and who equals a real life fight with an internet argument that you caused.
You should really take your meds. They won't bring your father back but they'll soothe your struck nerves.

Absolute dogshit thread. Each and everyone of you should be really ashamed of themselves.

>>538117096
One of the very best scenes in the game.
We NEED this Remaster to come so that people can actually play the game (for once) and see it for themselves
Very few have ever even gotten that far.

>>538117118
Really, really weird falseflag.

>>538116993
XIV Viara best Viera

>>538117187
I already played it. It was already shit.
A remake won't fix Lightning being a mary sue or snow being a victim or shivah being a fucking bike.

>>538117174
The only peaceful thread is one that the Lightning avatarfag is not part of. When he's not here, the thread is much slower, but also more peaceful, and people talk about Final Fantasy.

With him around, you CANNOT say anything about Remake, at all. You have to just watch him melt down about Yoshida while insists repeatedly that everyone is melting down about Lightning.

>>538117307
I fucking love how XIV Viera's ears are drawn. Straight, floppy... They're just cute.

They really are cute.

>>538117187
Soon !!!

>>538117162
>So in other words, you're a deluded schizophrenic who thinks his waifu is sitting next to him, and who equals a real life fight with an internet argument that you caused.
No, I do understand the difference between fantasy and reality, I understand that Lightning is a fantasy character from a video game that has nothing to do with reality, and I did not start any argument. I'm just goofing around a little bit. No idea what you're talking about.

>>538117316
Or he's melting down about people calling him the fatherless. Or just using the f-word around.

>>538117316
I loved Remake, but I loved Rebirth even more. What about you?
Do you want to talk about Remake or do you want to shitpost Remake?
Is this going to launch you into a diatribe about how much you hate the game for ruining FFVII? How obsessed you are with mocking "VIIRgins"?

You can talk about Remake all you want to. What would you like to talk about? Do you want to pick up the VIIR shitposts from earlier?
Don't think that me posting images of Lightning or mocking your shitposts somehow stops you. Keep doing what you do.

>>538117490
Need Claire pantsu...

>>538117932
The aroma.......5 stars.

>>538117823
I wish he understood why his presence is undesired and that if he just wanted to pretend to be a normal person he could maybe even post in a thread where people like him. I don't think he wants that though. I think he wants to be Barry, like I actually think that's who he wants to be.

>>538118175
Why are you so obsessed with Paulie anyways?

>>538118175
>I wish he understood why his presence is undesired
I think he knows that he's hated, and for some reason, it excites him.

>>538113801
>>538113818
>>538113836
>>538113878
Thanks for the replies. What soundtrack do you prefer? There's 3 options. Original, Reorchestrated, and OST.

>>538118287
Start with Original.

>>538118287
I always try to listen to the original soundtrack as much as possible in any remaster
That one is really up to your own ears, though

>>538118270
>and for some reason, it excites him.
It really does seem to be that way. I'm starting to think he's not self-aware enough to understand why he's hated, and most of his posts fundamentally hinge on him misunderstanding the situation or the post he's replying to, but I do think that he enjoys being hated. I think that's what drives him. He wants to be hated.

XIII-CHAD is the best poster in this general, tbqh.

>>538118425
You'd have to be pretty brain damaged to think that

>>538118425
Always was. That's why I follow his lead. You can ask him about any FF game and he will write an answer.
Just look at how they all wriggle and squirm at the sight of Lighting. That's all you need to know.

>>538118425
No way

>>538118619
>he doesn't know
Our guy now.

>>538118758
Yeah, I saw it last time you posted it. I also used to be the only person who defended XIII here before you commandeered it for your shitpost shtick.

You never answered why you're obsessed with that Twitter/YouTube account, and I've never seen any proof whatsoever that your bogeyman is that YouTuber, which I've asked for many times.

>>538117310
Same and true. Only zoomies that watch youtube video essays suddenly think XIII is good.
>>538117903
After the honeymoon phase I really began to see how sloppy, derivative and padded 7R and Rebirth were. They really stink of trend chasing.
I think it's time for Kitase and Toriyama to retire.

>>538117768
You're too nice, XIII-CHAD.
That's the main difference between you and me.

Not sure why some people can't seem to see that there are at least two of us, more like 3 or 4 actually at any given time.

>>538118758
While I wouldn't agree with all of this, these seem reasonable opinions. Why do we hate him again?

>>538119029
I hate him, Max, Genki and Audrey

>>538119129
Is that why we're so obsessed with them?

>>538118917
XIII-2 is kind of good. XIII and LR are really bad though.

>>538118414
I wonder what makes someone so desperate for attention that they're okay with being humiliated for their stupidity.
Surely a lack of father.

>>538117187
In this Gran Pulse scene, Snow asks her, showing doubt again, just like in the subway scene:
>we will se her, right?
Initially talking with Snow face to face, she goes behind him on purpose, so that he does not see her crying, nudges him and answers, as if remembering their last conversation and again encouraging Snow:
>no room for doubt.
>we will see her again. And Soon. You convinced me on that. So stay strong.
But in reality, we see that she herself is not sure of the correctness of the plan. This is why she goes behind Snow's back and this is why she nudges him, because she is actually weak and she herself relies on the strength of his convictions, which perfectly encapsulates the idea of her character stuck between roles of caring mother and attention seeking child abandoned by her parents. This scene also shows their dynamic of dependence on each other, like a family, how they learning to take care for each other. One detail I like: Snow notices that she is crying, so he deliberately does not turn around, as if playing along with her. Everything is done very economically, without purple prose or walls of text: very simple language and visual acting of characters communicate the essential idea of Claire as a character.

Purest Muse.

>>538118915
I didn't post that image last time but I am reposting it now for the lolz.

Anon....I'm not 'Paulie'. Big Guy is not my boogie man. He knows that too, which is why pic related exists......

Someone was really upset for a long time (seemingly, according to schizo lore, NSP is Jimbo?) but most people aren't so sure why that person was even upset in the first place (Tidus in Part 2 joke?) or whether or not any of this is even true or not. I don't know. I'm secondary to all of that. I don't care about someones secret name/identity.

But I like Remake, and I liked Rebirth even more. On this, me and Jimbo agree. Therefore, he is based.

>>538119424
You reddit spaced 4 paragraphs and posted an archives screenshot with some schizo shit, but you didn't answer my question.

>>538119356
>word salad
Take your mods again.

>>538118917
I hope they do less open world in party Part 3.

>>538119553
I answered your question by telling you that you've found the wrong man, detective. I have no ill feelings toward mister night sky.

>>538119634
I guess you're not going to answer my question. You never do, you just say schizo shit.

>>538119559
Word eclair. Delicious pastry!

>>538119767
A Mary Sue pastry, disgusting.

>>538118915
XIII-kun became very obsessed with Jimbo because xhe realized it was a new great way to spam shitposts using FFX Yojimbo. In general he really likes twitter and youtube ecelebs

>>538118917
>open by shitposting young people while posting an image of FFXVI
>attack the youth while paradoxically feigning support for them by defending XVI, a game that is made for zoomers
>then call VIIR slop, derivative, and padded, while failing to type the numeral
>call the game that honors FF traditional elements 'trend chasing', doubling down on paradoxical hypocrisy
>finish it off by shitposting the developer calling for their resignation
This shitpost is extremely stale, I promise I've seen it regurgitated a million times before.
Different image, different words, same shitpost.

>>538118917
>>538119608
Whatever they decide to do for 7R3, I know it'll be the right call. I'm already predicting a 10/10.

>>538119861
He's still really butthurt about being called Paulie that one time too, it seems.

If we post every Tweet and every YouTube video that NightSkyPrince makes, always insisting that he's /ourguy/, and if "Jimbo" is allegedly NSP, all I want to see is any proof whatsoever that links the 4chan posts he hates to the Reddit account he hates and then links either one of those things to the Twitter and YouTube accounts he's always talking about. Him or anyone else. I have never seen anything linking any of them, but there seems to be a small group of very agreeable posters who all know it's the truth but wont tell me how or why they know it. Like this time, he just posted some weird archives image he had saved for some reason while melting down about being called Paulie.

>>538119719
I'm not the person you think that I am. The person who you are trying to call out? Yeah, he's not even me.
Is that clear enough for you? No matter how many times you try to fabricate a connection between Lightning images and your thread boyfriend....it's never coming true.

>>538119767
Isn't it crazy how the Warrior of Light himself literally believes that he take on enemy with Lightning by his side?
So cool......

>>538120394
Please stop replying to me with your schizo shit if you're not even going to attempt to answer the question that I asked you.

>>538119968
>Ubisoftbirth honors traditional FF
lol, lmao

At least Rebirth honors gaming. XVI honors interactive movies lol

>>538120394
>the Warrior of Light himself literally believes that he can take on any enemy with Lightning by his side
Woops, I was so excited about the reality of WoL and Claire that I made some spelling mistakes. Her light is simply that powerful.

>>538120446
>he's doubling down
Oh my....this is very interesting. Okay. I'll spoonfeed you.

>why you're obsessed with that Twitter/YouTube account
I'm not. I'm not the person who you think I am. That's the point. I reposted that image from last thread for the lolz. You think this thread is serious business, however, and no fun allowed (unless at the expense of your preferred party)

>I've never seen any proof whatsoever that your bogeyman is that YouTuber
Same, I've never seen any proof that this YTer posts here either. You would know that if you had read >>538119424

>>538119767
Hehehe

>>538120604
Do you know what series this is?
It's always been cutscene heavy.
If *gaming" is copying the same old Farcry tower shit forever, I don't want it.
Both games have a similar runtime when you remove all the padding from Rebirth.
Even Crisis Core Reunion did it better than Rebirth.

>>538120761
I didn't read your post, because I know all you did is say reddit spaced schizo shit while not answering my question.

>>538120910
Cutscenes heavy game is not an interactive movie. These are different species.
And in Rebirth you mostly have the freedom to choose whether to interact with the minigames if you consider them a source of entertainment and an essential part of the FF golden age legacy, or not to interact with them if you consider them padding. Even in this there is an interactive element that requires the playerto choose, to do something other than hammering a square for 35 hours straight and performing boring fetch quests in the empty corridors and fields of Valisthea.

The only thing anyone has ever posted whenever I ask them to link "the detective" and the 5 years to a XIII poster is......nothing actually.
It's sheer imagination? The imagination is the only thing that could contribute to such a fabrication.
Is it really just because someone once said "I like Remake, but I like Rebirth even more, and XVI sucks" while posting Lightning?

Is it the same thing with NSP? Someone said something here that vaguely resembled something that a YouTuber's Reddit account said?
Apparently there's a Reddit account. And I am supposed to care whose Reddit account said what now? Tidus in Rebirth?
Nobody has ever dared to explain any of this lore to me since I've been here. It just seems like the thread culture at this point and it's just accepted.

People absorb weird nonsense and then meme it for the lolz. That's why this webm exists.

>>538121360
>consider them a source of entertainment and an essential part of the FF golden age legacy
Why yes, I do actually.
Whether it's card games, or timed button presses, or set piece sequences where you have to accomplish various sorts of tasks that aren't just fighting enemies or talking...
All forms of interactivity belong in Final Fantasy. It requires courage from the developer to want to try new things, though. And it requires talent to imagine and then implement those more dynamic forms of interactivity.
Like Chocobo gliding, or a card game, rhythm game, punch-out mini game, racing mini game......etc, etc.

>>538121773
I've always called the golden age games a toy box-like games. I think that's a perception shared by most fans of those games. Rebirth captured that feeling very well, better than any other post X FF. There's still a lot to improve on, like mako sources, checklists, and Ubisoft towers are definitely worth leaving behind, but Rebirth is the best representation of the FF experience from the late 90s imo.

>>538121750
Where did the name Paulie come from? Surely you can answer me succinctly

Because I can find a Reddit account named Jimbodehobo (it was posted about in this general) with a quick google search, and that account has some revealing posts, some of them even look like what you see in this general and on /v/ on a daily basis in FFVIIR threads.

So you should be able to share where that name came from right?

>>538120394
The Warrior of Light is saying all of this shit and probably thinking smth like this >>538117096 frfr
He's /ourguy/.

I guess he's going to melt about being called Paulie that one time for the next few days. I think someone should remind him that no one called him Paulie this thread, and an archives search reveals that it's been 5 days since anyone said "Paulie" here.

I just wanted to know why we all think and agree that NSP is "Jimbo", because I've never seen anyone even try to provide proof of this claim. Instead, he's been melting down for an hour about one time when he got called Paulie.

>>538122086
>toy box-like
Yes. I mean....what else is summoning and cinematic attacks other than toy box bullshit?
The heart of all good FF is toy box
>Then, a gigantic metal horse comes stampeding out of the sky BRUAUHRHASHSHHSCRASHHH
>and then fuckin LIGHTNING shoots outta the horn and fucking KABOOOMOLSABLARJE;WLKHJF
>9999 damage bro hell yeah

>>538122559
Both FFI and FFII protags loved her desu and they stood toe to toe with her....
What's not to love? I need a AAA Rebirth-like Dissidia with lots of party members across time and space.....fund it

>>538122607
>why we all think and agree that NSP is "Jimbo"
That's the thing, I don't agree, it's clearly obvious that is not true Tone, Jimbo is a different guy see
If you have seen anything about NSP you'd know that he likes Remake and Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children like any good FF explorer does. So...he would never post the seethe that's on that there Reddit account.

Ay Tone....do you understand the concept of a meme?

>>538114817
I also didn't like the boots at first, I considered them a joke. But once I understood the intent behind them, I became a fan. Now I don't think anyone should say anything bad about the boots.

>>538123196
You're pretending to be an expert on a subject that existed for years before you did. While melting down about being called Paulie, which has not occurred in nearly a week.

I guess I'll just have to ask the thread a different time to get an answer, but I think you're always here. There can't be melt downs for multiple years only for some new guy to come in, hand wave it all away, and say "it's just a meme guys"

>>538123495
*Real* New Dissidia when?

I still don't know why we're supposed to hate Jimbo. I can't think of anything he turned out to be wrong about, and apparently nobody else can either. And yet we're expected to consider him a big evil menace. I just don't get it.

I'm going to be honest, I didn't think he would take my Sopranos post this badly. Really sorry about that, I'll try to be more careful in the future.

>>538123667
A few threads ago I asked for an example of something he was wrong about and I got the usual deflection meltdown and of course none of the dozens of dedicated jim haters were able to give me any information.

There's been a surprising amount of activity since I was last here, but did we ever find out what was going on with that guy who got mad that someone expressed a critical opinion of Remake and pretended they were presenting their opinions as facts in order to attack Kitase and VIIR fans?

>>538119424
Honestly you two are probably the only good posters here, or at least the only posters here who like and talk about final fantasy

>>538123934
No, we never did. We still don't know how Kitase is even involved in it.

>>538123459
I never said I'm an expert Tone, the opposite in fact. I'm just putting two and two together here. I'm using my eyeballs and my ears, that's all. If you watch an NSP video, you'll see him say some shit like "I imported Advent Children to play the FFXIII demo", or "Kingdom Hearts has the best base for FF action combat mechanics".....That don't sound like something a guy who has a massive bone to pick with VIIR would say to thousands of viewers on camera.

Now, since you keep mentioning your favorite, Mister Paulie....you got anything to show me, XIII-kun, that guy "everyone hates" about who Paulie is supposed to be?
We know who Jimbo is supposed to be, that's a Reddit shitposter who hates VIIR. And we know who NSP is, he's a YouTuber and FF explorer.

But we don't know who Paulie is. Is it a Reddit account? Can we see it? Any source for the name whatsoever? It should be instantly available, a google search away. You've made it clear you think Paulie is Jimbo's arch rival, and I'm willing to concede to you on that, because I have no clue if that is true or not. Paulie could be real, sure. But many keep trying to say that Jimbo is XIII-kuns boogie man, when that's clearly not true.

TLDR; You've got the wrong guy, see. You're mixed up. My name ain't Paulie, and I've even told you my real life name and linked it, but all you wise guys ignored it to keep peddling your preferred pet name.

>>538123724
I told them my real name but they didn't listen. This is how things have to get done in waste management.

>>538124206
4chan is supposed to be fun.

>>538124394
Oh so we're just going to pretend Kitase wasnt being attacked in the previous thread? And that FFVIIR fans weren't under attack either?

I seriously cannot believe he has been melting down for almost 2 hours about being called Paulie when no one even called him Paulie

>>538124206
Who knew liking Remake and Rebirth, and Final Fantasy in general, would make us outliers in the /finalfantasygeneral/?
But it is what it is. Thanks bro. Try not let the schizos get you down. I mostly just feel sorry for them (when I'm not laughing at them.)

>>538112221 (OP)
Yay Rydia!

>>538119356
Eclaire...
Such a well-written character...

>>538119356
It's poetry. It's stagecraft. It's cinema, as it were.

fippy bippy!

>>538122607
>>538123196
>>538123459
>>538124415
Off-topic

>>538128521
>none of them looks like lightning
except Aeris maybe, with that negative ass

Tell me a non-Square Enix RPG that is better than XVI (no E33).

>>538133119
Banquet for Fools

>>538133119
KCD

>>538117001
>Dawntrail is better than XVI
I think that. Dawntrail was a hot mess but at least the Alexandria stuff is decent. There is absolutely NOTHING good about XVI aside from maybe the voice acting.

>>538133119
basically every RPG
and every action game

>>538133119
BG3

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

I'd let Poyo-chan shit in my mouth for a taste of her vampire pussy
Or period on me while in Richmond Heights, Ohio...
Better yet she can period on my dick while we play Final Fantasy XIV

Tell me a non-Square Enix RPG that is better than Rebirth (no E33).

>>538142691
>hi guys, I'm feeling insecure about 7R and need a confidence boost

>>538142798
Well, objectively, there's Metaphor. Just as one example.

>>538142691
Elden Ring is fun, especially the PC version with seamless coop and randomizer slapped onto it

>>538112221 (OP)
Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.

>>538142691
I would say KCD2, BG3, Divinity: OS 1 and 2, Elden Ring are better as RPGs, but definitely not that piece of shit Metaphor (objectively).

>>538147030
>(objectively)
Sis...

>>538147320
The assessment of the (((majority))), which consists of literal fag magazines and other shitty gaming journals, has nothing to do with the term "objectivity". Metaphor is clunky and rigid as a game, and as a story.

>>538148460
>has nothing to do with the term "objectivity"
I'm 100% sure that if Rebirth had won, we would be posting about how it's objectively better than Metaphor. Alas, the truly objectively better game won in the end.

>>538148654
>we would be posting about how it's objectively better than Metaphor
I wouldn't, so I don't understand your comment at all.

>>538148784
I believe you.

Most RPGs are better than Rebirth.
Is Rebirth even an RPG?
It's more of an Assassin's Creed game than anything

>>538113615
Umm...

>>538114782
Oooooh no, not that shit
That was fucked

Chocobo Racing deserves one more chance.

>>538123578
Once they put out the Dissidia collection (never)

>>538152662
Why not? A new Chocobo Racing game couldn't possibly sell less than Rebirth did. Worth a try.

>>538151427
>It's more of an Assassin's Creed game than anything
Actually true.

>>538118758
"Linearity bad" sissies....

>>538152662
They need to see what the current racers are doing to assure the next game doesn't turn into a p2w shit mush.
Also uncloth Esper Terra

>>538154578
I love linearity. That's why I enjoyed the 10/10 FFX and FFXVI.

>>538155053
I don't think they have it in them. A new Chocobo Racing that was just a straight up classic kart game with FF characters and tracks could be a lot of fun, and MKW/Crossworlds prove people just want a straightforward racer. But I don't think SE can look at it and not see garbage mobile whalehunting potential. Why make a good game when you can make a shit game that might milk one whale of a million dollars before EOS.

>>538155495
There are certain posters in this thread who are not ready to have this conversation. Their cognitive dissonance is far too great.

>>538156098
I could never accept anons calling some linear games good, and other linear games bad. If they weren't hypocrites, they would like all of them, or none of them.

>>538156740
>>538154578
This.

>>538156740
13’s linearity is fine and reinforces a thematic element of the narrative.
The problem is that this linearity is also tied to a tutorial system that doesn’t end until chapter 11 or some shit. Over half the game is hand holding the mechanics for you with completely arbitrary progression lockouts.
10 front loads all of its explanations and doesn’t lock you out of half the games classes for 3/4th of the game.

That is why 13 sucks compared to 10.

>>538159774
irrefutable

>>538159774
>13’s linearity is fine and reinforces a thematic element of the narrative.
That Lightning suck cock and that it's not a real roleplaying game since you don't get to play a role, just watch Lightning be a bitch to everyone she meets?

>>538159774
>13’s linearity is fine and reinforces a thematic element of the narrative.
Not even the developers would agree with this. I am not sure as to why fanboys of particular entries like to tout its more glaring flaw as some sort of next level avantgarde decision, especially in a game like XIII where the devs have been more than open on the struggles of the development process.

>>538161873
Whether or not the narrative connection to the linearity of the game was intentional the result is the same. You are a party given a fate that cannot be avoided and are forced down a singular path to fulfill it. The game mirrors that struggle.

sex with Lightning
sex with Tifa and Aerith dressed as Lightning

>>538163415
Hope...

>>538163497
...for this franchise was lost when FF16 flopped

I wonder what happened to them.

Remake won

>>538165560
Final Fantasy 17 let's go!

>>538165560
30fps remake... I thought I left you on the ps quadruple...

>>538164679
*when Rebirth flopped

Would you buy an FF Tactics sequel?
I'm personally very excited to return to Ivalice for the Remaster.

>>538165340
OO was a better game than XIII that also had better combat than XIII, even during the FR era

>>538168943
As long as it isn’t getting made by CS3, I’d be down for a Tactics sequel.

>>538168943
>Would you buy an FF Tactics sequel?
Include some 7 cast cameos again and I won't be able to NOT buy it

>>538168943
I don't think so. Tactic Ogre, though, the few I saw got me really excited.

>>538168943
As long as Yoshi-P isn't involved.
When I see his name I just tend to lose all rationality

>>538168943
Give me a Square Enix version of Unicorn Overlord instead

>>538168943
Is there one of these "We'll totally make a new game / sequel if you buy our remaster pinkie promise" statement that ended up delivering? I just tend to dismiss them as marketing white noise.

>>538169729
>I would love to return to Ivalice, as long as it's not being made by the Ivalice team

>>538170369
We noticed, don't worry.

>>538170701
Kefka is the worst villain.

One true love and kissu hug! Canon and cute couple!

>>538171209
Name a better one.

>>538171523
Ultima

>>538170701
Motomu needs to return for Revenant Wings 2
It's what the series needs

>>538171523
Your mum.

>>538171779
Based

>>538171523
my abusive father

>>538172720
Tidus...

>>538172720
Balthier...

>>538172892
>>538173121
Being a video game character would be an improvement...
But enough about this.

>>538173505
>not fatherless
>father abused
Lightning avatarfag...

>>538113095
xiv didn't make any profit in the last year

>>538173790
Barry, stop making up lies while posting images that disprove your own lies.

>>538173732
Oh, I'm not that fatherless attention whoring loser whose nerves get struck.
But not having a father would've helped me.

>>538171523
GOOD VILLAINS:
Chaos, Emperor David Bowie, Cloud of Darkness, EXDeath, Kefka, Sephiroth, Genesis, JENOVA, Meteor Parasite, Ultimecia, Garland, Kuja, Queen Brahne, Necron, Shadow Lord, Eard'narche & Kamla'naut, Promathia, Odin/Luzaf, Lilith, Hades, Vayne Solidor, Cidolfus, Venat, Gaius, Elidibus, Zenos, Athena, Barnabas, Ultima
BAD VILLAINS:
Zemus, Barthandalus, Bhunivelze, Ardyn/Ifrit, Lahabrea, Fandaniel

>>538175159
>Zemus
Shut your mouth, Zemus was great.

>>538173790
Here's your (You).

>>538173790
Irrefutable. Dawntrail was really a disaster.

>>538173790
XIV haters can't read, apparently.
That's not what it says at all lol

>>538175159
>>538175384
I did not care for Zemus.

>>538176356
Barry cannot read, this is true, but more importantly than that he is simply not concerned with facts. He has a narrative that he keeps repeating and that's all there is to it. It's not more complicated than that.

In reality, XIV is more profitable than XV is or ever will be, and he doesn't like that.

hope you're ready for ff7 advent children in ff7r3
they just made new advent children cg models
plus ever crisis has advent children game models for enemies, environments and characters being added, all the ever crisis character, environment and enemy models are down scaled versions of ff7r, ff7 rebirth and ff7rp3 game models

hurr durr xiv didn't make any money

>>538173960
>>538175895
>>538176356
>>538176792
literally says net sales and profit is down aka no profit

also xv made more profit in a month than xiv made in its 1st 7 years
xv was far more profitable than xiv has ever been
the xv mobile game was more profitable than SEs entire mmo division too

>>538176904
If you tell me Kadaj is going to be in Part 3, I would call you a shitposting doomer. But I have a feeling that if he actually was, there would be a good reason for it.

>profit is down aka no profit
B-Barry no, that's not how this works.

>>538176792
Seems you were right kek
He doubled down immediately
To be very clear, less profit does not mean no profit
XIV remains extremely profitable.

>>538176792
how come ff14 makes so little money compared to xv?

ff14s biggest region for revenue is the us yet ff15, ff7r and ff7 all made more revenue in the us than ff14 has

>>538177172
>If you tell me Kadaj is going to be in Part 3, I would call you a shitposting doomer.
Why? his whisper is in remake

Reminder than XV took years to even break even with Tabata's famous 10 Million sales required quote that he had to walk back.
Meanwhile XIV ARR and XVI both broke even week one of their release.

>>538177172
He won't be in it, shitposting doomer.
However, if he was, he was already foreshadowed in remake, so not only do you not get to complain, but his inclusion is good actually.

>>538177034
>>538177320
>net sales and profit down yoy
>this is somehow mad dosh

>>538177429
xiv is not extremely profitable at all

Aerisu!

>>538177771
I'd take Kadaj and the boys over anime ass Nero and Weiss any fucking day

>>538177162
Here's your (You).

>>538177724
it took xv 1 day to break even and be profitable with 5m, it was profitable within the 5m
the additional 5m was pure profit
tabata never had to walk back anything because he never said 10m was the sales target, he always said that was nothing more than a personal goal because only 1 other ff had sold 10m (being ff7) at the time he said that

xvi still hasnt broke even or made any profit and xiv only slld 1.45

SE stated XV at 6m in a month exceeded expectations which means it was already profitable by then

>>538178036
nice cope

>>538177724
also se said xvi underperformed meaning it didn't profit at all, and we know ff16 cost $300m because a company involved in irs development disclosed ff16 cost $300m during one of their investor meetings

ff16 only made $147m at absolute maximum on ps5 from its 3m sales

didn't break even let alone come close to profiting

>>538178556
Wrong. XVI cost 100m.
Even couldn't spend 300m on a game even if they wanted to.
Costs only balloon like that in the USA where wages are much higher than Japan and there's a lot more corporate bloat.

>>538178556
prof·it
/ˈpräfət/
noun
noun: profit; plural noun: profits

a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something.

>>538178538
The headline is incorrect because he never said that was the sales target to begin with, it was misreported to begin with
he only ever said 10m was his personal goal, not a financial requirement for sustainability

also SE stated xv sales exceeded expectations at 6m so it was profitable at launch

meanwhile ff16 still hasn't broke even or profited yet

AND THEN YOU ADD KURT ANGLE INTO THE MIX

ffg still doesnt understand how corporate financing works
thinks games have their own bank accounts and debt owed
doesnt know that no game is financed off its own sales
hasnt figured out that 13 paid for 14 which paid for 15 which paid for 16 and on and on

Guys... I know Barry is a schizo shitposter, but is he a legitimate retard too? Like, legitimately, is he retarded? I thought the "Barry math" was a cope or something to help with his shitposts, but he might just legitimately be retarded. He is currently reading the word "14th" as being "XIV" when it isn't, and he thinks "decrease in profits YoY" means ZERO profits, when the YoY comparison being made is one in which an expansion launched and one in which no expansion launched.

>>538177494
Your picture has nothing to do with XIV, shitposterkun. Your picture mentions Rebirth, XV, and Remake, but it does not say anything about XIV.

>>538178538
>>538179057
His exact quote was quite clear. That's why SE had to release a statement walking it back.
The game was in development for nearly a decade and involved a costly movie as well, so I don't doubt his accidental sincerity.
XV needed several mobile games to even start to recoup all the cash Tabata blew and continued to blow, culminating in his firing and closure of Luminous Studios.

>>538178835
woah those are some big claims
I'm sure you could back that up.

>>538179760
It's pretty obvious if you read SE's financial reports.

>>538178835
ff16 cost $300m
yoshitpiss talked multiple times about how high the costs were
talked about being surprised SE allowed the budget to be so high
it cost way higher than forspoken did

>>538178941
ff16 made no profit off its development/advertising costs

>>538179741
>culminating in his firing and closure of Luminous Studios.
these things happened 5 years apart btw.

>>538180010
This was a PowerPoint slide created by an unaffiliated third party with zero sources to back up his claims.

>>538180124
>unaffiliated third party
the company worked on the game, lil bro.

I feel with AI we’re only a few short years away from having a real Tifa sexbot.

>>538180124
>source: trust me bro
>"can I check your source?"
>no you're just gonna have to trust me

>>538180124
We already have a real source in Japan that puts it at a much more realistic 59M budget, meaning XVI profited at minimum 3x that in its first week.

>>538179675
Are you retarded and coping because xvi flopped and made no profit of its costs?
do you not know how operating income works?

mat piscatela from npd/circarna is talking about dollar sales for ff in the us
ff15 is #1
7r is now #2
ff7 is #3

dollar sales is revenue
npd/circarna get numbers directly from SE including digital/mtx which counts ff14 subs, any spending on ff14 and ff14 cash shop
ff14 not even in top 3 let alone above 15 like you claimed
if ff14 was the big money generator you claimed it would be top 3, its not

>>538180497
The reports are all public, just go read them.
>>538180484
He put a company logo on his PowerPoint that he may or may not have talked to, that may or may not have worked on XVI, who may or may not have even known the game's budget. Hope that clarifies things for you lil bro.

>my source?
>a folder of Tweets that I agree with
>why do you ask?

>>538180539
The original VII had a budget around that much. And that was before inflation. And Yoshida had to thank SE for even allowing him the budget to make XVI, implying it was high. That article is full of shit.

>>538180539
Probably 59M for dev, 41M for advertising and merchandising. Sony also gave them some money for exclusivity so -15M from that.
Any way you slice it, given XVI's sales, we're looking at a break even first week and 2x profit, by all possible estimates.

>>538180539
>We already have a real source in Japan that puts it at a much more realistic 59M budget
that was a guesstimate made before the game ever came out lol

>>538180774
>The reports are all public, just go read them.
No they are not. If this is that power point which asserts that XVI cost >$200 million to make, none of the reports are public. The guy tells you what the sources are at the bottom of the slides, but a layperson cannot go to those sources and verify for themselves that the information displayed is accurate, because none of the information is public.

>>538180539
>>538181383
>before the game came out
>February 2025 article
Nice try.

>>538180539
The post that angered the anti-yoshida cultists.

>>538180774
https://www.keywordsstudios.com/download/file/TnorY0t5U2EvWDlSRmNDRGVkeG9WZz09/Full-Year-Results-2023-Presentation/
lmao lil bro that image is straight from keywords themselves

>>538181480
That's right. The guy's PowerPoint is bullshit.
SE's public financial reports are not. You can discern much if you actually read them.

>>538179741
FF16 lost SE 2bn in value and didn't make any profit
Tabata never said 10m was XVs sales target, he mentioned 10m because only one other FF had even sold 10m at that point in time
XV was barely im development for 3.5 years under Tabata
SE specifically stated XV exceeded sales expectations at 6m so it was professionally at launch
At launch Tabata was asked if XV was profitable and broke even and he said yes it broken even and was profitable day 1

XVI was in development for 9 years under Yoshi-P and Takai

XVI still hasnt broken even yet
XV made insanely high profit due to selling an additional 5m that was all profit and thats on top of the profit made within the launch 5m since it was profitable within that figure too

Tabata left SE 2 years after XV released in 2018 after getting promoted and getting his team promoted, he then left SE 5 months later because he wanted to start his own company before he's at retirement age
The non canon xv dlc were only canned as a result of that and lost no money because they hadn't even started yet
the 33m loss was for new IP projects abd cgi production being cancelled which are miniscule in budget that justice combined amounted to 33m, which is the cost of a low budget game anyway, xv on pc made over $33m in profit that same fiscal year anyway so entirely covered that
and the mobile game made $375m in that fiscal year too

luminous productions proceeded for another FIVE years of active development on top of working on ff7r and ff16 in the background from their new ip

then in 2023 SE merged luminous productions back to cbu2 and prompted Aramaki to head the new engine development dick to focus on setting up luminous engine for company wide use now
and the xv staff are now in creative studio 4 where nozue from ffxv kingsglaive and ffxv and agni got promoted

>>538181685
see
>>538181685
gonna have to cope a lil harder.

>>538181697
Lightning avatarfag, what's actually happening right now is that Barry is shitposting everything that isn't XV. If you want anyone to take you seriously rather than making fun of you all the time, you have to be less obviously biased and sympathetic towards Barry when he's shitposting the games that you have spent your entire tenure on /ffg/ also shitposting.

>>538181627
Sourced from the dubious original PowerPoint I'm referring to. It says right on their slide. It's not their own internal knowledge they are referencing.

>>538181543
https://www-yomiuri-co-jp.translate.goog/economy/20230106-OYT1T50123/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=el
*jan 2023

If you want an example of no profits, we only need to look towards Tabata.

>>538182125
the company that worked on the game isn't some random dude you kept wishing it was.

>>538182192
At least he's consistent

>>538180124
keywords studio worked on ff16
that slide is from their financial report

>>538180539
that was debunked back then you lying retard
$59m was yasudas low ball estimate and him saying it cost at least that much not that it was ff16s budget, also that was from 6 months before the game even released and is not even officially tied to SE

>Lightning avatarfag is also the Chinese knockoff and the Chinese gacha shill
Grim. But honestly, expected.

>>538180774
keywordstudio worked on ff16
the source for ff16s budget is them

>>538182284
>>538182385
You are willfully ignoring the sources listed on the PowerPoint of the company that worked on a small part of localizing the game. They are referencing other sources, not their own. They wouldn't even know the game's budget you tards.

Not reading all the slop, I'm afraid. Same arguments you've all been having with him for years now....Imagine still shitposting the same arguments with Barry after all this time LMFAOOO

So....let's talk about some FF games.
I think we should talk about FF summons.
What FF has your favorite summons? My favorites are FFVIII, FFX, and FFXIII.
My favorite summon is probably Ifrit in FFVIII.

>>538181543
its from January 2023

>>538181583
sounds like youre coping because ff16 cost $300m and made barely half that back

>>538182125
youre coping
the source of ff16s budget is them because they worked on it

>>538182874
>no arguments
I accept your surrender.

>>538182783
>its just some random dude slapping logos onto his powerpoint.
>well ok its a real company but who cares they wouldn't know
>oh yeah well so what if they worked on it that doesn't mean anything
keep going lil bro, this is funny.

>>538182791
You actually are the Chinese gacha shill. Unbelievable. Well, no, believable, you are a liar after all, but still, this revelation evokes the feeling one has when they might say "unbelievable!"

>>538182192
>>538182330
Tabata's company made profits in the latest FY

>>538182617
>>538182998
>every single post I don't like was written by muh bf
What is your problem? Why are you like this?
I don't play gacha or mobile games.

>>538183121
>one company made 200 million
>one company lost 300 million
So no profit. Thanks for backing up my claim.

>>538183225
Why are you like this?
Why do you hate this character so much

>>538182783
The references are for games they didn't work on you idiot
They worked on ff16 and thus ff16s budget is factually $300m

also the forspoken writer is the source for forspoken costing $100m, how would the writer who doesn't even work in japan with the dev team even know Forspokens budget? the writer wasn't even involved in the game beyond doing the script
if someone like that can gain access to know Forspoken cost $100m then a COMPANY who worked on ff16 has just as much ease of access to know ff16s budget

>let's talk about FF
>instant seething reply
Jesus Christ this place is a disaster.

>>538182957
yoshitpissisters getting uppity

>>538183507
>They worked on ff16 and thus know ff16s budget
That's... Not at all how that works.
We're back to the less profits equals no profits maths again already

Was SE wrong to make XII?

>>538184025
well if you say so, then it must be true.

I hope this isn't too much to ask, but I think we should support FFXV director Hajime Tabata by downloading his latest product, Hamapen Rap Maker.
It is a revolutionary app that uses generative AI technology to create rap music by entering images and text.

>>538180774
>Company sources another guy who made it up.
Reminds me of journo "reliable" sources

>>538183312
the article says they erroneously reported it as a loss before and corrected it as it was profit

also jp universe is an umbrella company of 3 seperate entities

jp games is the games development company and that posted profit

tbt labs is asset management and logsys os for operation of ID services

so any loss you're claiming is completely unrelated to game development at jp games that Tabata is making and if anything is asset management related which involves stakes in other seperate companies

>>538184025
I will give the benefit of the doubt to ever barry schizo rambling but not this. I cannot believe this.

>>538184025
Yes it is how it works
And xvi didn't make any profit

>>538184379
JP Games lost 367 million in 2023. So they're still in the negative.

>>538184229
They were wrong to target the ps2 and not ps3 for its release. An added year of polish and not compromising on graphics would have been pretty sweet.
Could of had the HD remaster as the original release.

>>538184625
You think every little contractor is privy to the budget of the project? Why do you think this?

Yoshida might be unoriginal, but naming your studio JP Games is even more unoriginal.

>>538184625
Except SE reported a 16% growth on return for 2023.

>>538185146
It’s a company that exists to export JP culture to the world. Effectively they operate off government grants for the purpose of pushing Japanese propaganda. Anime industries full of these government funded studios that just push out slop to sell overseas.

>>538185182
I hate to tell you this, but this report is for april 2022 to march 2023, before XVI ever came out.

Looks like the gang's all here. We've got Paulie, and Barry, presumably Larry somewhere, and now we just need Jimbo to make an appearance and we've got ourselves a bona fide Final Fantasy House on our hands.

>>538184768
Because it supports my narrative.

Wait, if Paulie's here, and I'm here, and Barry's over there... who's driving the car?

>>538184662
He went quiet. I wonder if he's away looking at the data for JP Games before 2023 to try counter this.
(Spoilers: The company is still in the negative 6 years on)

>>538184768
>"hey yeah, I'll pay you $500 to do this window"
>alright, sounds like a deal
>hey... by the way, if you don't mind me asking, how much did the other work you're having done on your house cost?
>"oh well that's no issue, my good sir, all told it will cost about $200 million dollars, in fact I'm glad you asked and I'm happy to provide you with that information confidentially and not available anywhere to the public"

>>538185406
Do you think the 300million spent wasn’t paid out until the game released anon?

>>538187387
Regardless that you responded to the wrong person, the fact that amortization was listed as a reason for the drop when XVI DID launch means that yes, they did in fact pay up all the costs by the time XVI launched.

>>538186809
>who's driving the car?
Yes he is.

>>538184321
That isn't his game thats another company tool
This is one of JPGames products which is from a middleware tool to help devs

>>538187684
*All 59M of the costs
Leading to 3x profit for the 10/10 FFXVI on release week.

>>538187684
>they did in fact pay up all the costs by the time XVI launched.
This also involves the settlement of all debts owed my Luminous Studios before it dissolved. These were reported within the same financial quarter, I will remind the audience.

>>538184662
>>538186915
JPU made 1.6 billion yen in 2023 so no

>>538188090
That happened in a totally different financial year lmao

>>538185182
no they didn't and your image doesn't factor ff16 at all

the fy forspoken release in performed better than the fy ff16 released in

>>538188218
If that is true, you'll have to forgive me. I'm not paying attention to all of the Barry math. If we're talking about XVI's launch and "amortization", then it also involves the dissolution of Luminous Studios, as it occurred and was reported during the same financial quarter.

>>538188398
>same financial quarter
no it wasn’t lmao. It wasn’t even in the same financial year.

>>538187684
A drop in amortization is expected when the company does not project a copyright to retain its current elevated value. IE there is nothing after release to maintain the interest generated before release. Or in even dumber terms there is no hype because the thing being hyped is now available. Has nothing to do with 16. Everything to do with future projections have no forward announcements of the next Final Fantasy matching 16 and Rebirth.

>>538188186
Ryugukoku is gonna be fire when it drops this year.
I look forward to importing my Mitsubishi NFT.

>>538188593
Luminous Studios was dissolved in the same financial quarter that XVI launched during, yes.

>>538188380
I’ll ask again, do you think SE just didn’t make payments on the 300 million spent to develop 16 until release?

>>538187387
yes because all of ff16 dev and advertising costs were only amortised in june 2023

>>538187997
ff16 cost $300m

>>538188090
luminous productions had no debts as if they were they'd have been reported in fy 2023, the fy forspoken released in
may 1st is when SE official reabsorbed luminous staff back into cbu2, nothing more

SE specifically stated the loss in q1 fy2024 was because of ff16 not being profitable off its dev or advertising costs

>>538188090
>>538188778
I can corroborate this, as I am a reliable source that has actually read the financial reports instead of gleefully slurping barry misinfo.

>>538188824
That is not how amortization works retard.

>>538188814
*The 59 Million spent to develop FFXVI
Please try to avoid repeating inflated misinformation

>>538188218
You do know financial years run to the end of March right Anon?
Like you understand 2025’s financial report is April 2024 a March 2025 yes?
You aren’t a fucking dumbass right anon?

>>538186018
How will we know he's here? What's his "thing"?

>>538189171
sweetheart, when do you think they announced luminous studios shut down?
Can you even bring up one sentence where they mentioned luminous studios in the same report when XVI launched?

>>538188958
>>538188593
>I can corroborate this
Well, yeah, I also posted an image of the notice of the dissolution of Luminous Studios, as well as its effective date, as well as a snipped of the timeframe of the financial quarter its dissolution was reported during, and it is on the reader to then know that XVI launched on June 22rd of 2023, which would put it within the same quarter as the dissolution of Luminous Studios.

>>538188824
>luminous productions had no debts as if they were they'd have been reported in fy 2023
Well, no, not necessarily. Any debts owed by Luminous Studios would need to be settled by Square Enix at the time of its dissolution and absorption. The amortization would necessarily involve 1) the cost to produce XVI as well as any current and bookmarked marketing campaigns, and 2) anything else that occurred at SE, which would necessarily involve the settlement of any debts that Luminous Studios may have had at the time of its dissolution, and this occurred during the same financial quarter that XVI launched during.

>>538188398
no it doesn't because staff is irrelevant to hd games sector profit
also if luminous had any debts it'd wouldve been reported in fy2023

>>538188778
ff16 released june 2023 which was q1 fy2024
forspoken released jan 2023 which was q4 fy2023
forspoken staff were announced to be merging back as SE in march 2023 which is still q4 fy2023
the may 1 date is just the date they actually back as regular SE staff

forspoken costs were already amortized in fy2023

ff16 is what had its costs amortized in q1fy2024 and it fucking tanked HD games operating profit which caused the shareholders to get pissed when they said ff16 underperformed and the tank dropped like a rock

forspoken flopping didn't tank SE anywhere as much as ff16 flopping did


also Aramaki head of luminous productions was literally promoted and is head of SEs entire engine development division now

>>538189559
Real and based.
>>538189418
Low IQ double-down. Sad to see it.

>>538189418
See >>538188090
And then kill yourself in a Final Famtasy game. Preferably while live steaming.

>>538189559
>>538189768
>>538189814
why is it so hard to just post a sentence from a financial report?

>>538188958
>>538189559
xvifags really can't read

>>538189559
No because forspoken costs were ammortised when it launched and
2) there was no loss related to luminous as all staff were retained and they even promoted Aramaki after that

ff16 was cited as the drop not anything else

>>538188186
>JPU made
Nothing. The company has made no profit in the last 3 years.
The 1.6 billion yen refers to the money they have got off other companies to fund their projects.
Those companies are going to want to see returns on those funds at some point, so Tabby boy should probably think of actually generating some profit sometime soon.

>>538189741
You clearly have not even the beginning of a clue of what you are talking about. I'm sorry. You are woefully ignorant of this topic which you are attempting to discuss.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that Luminous Studios *did* have debt. I don't know whether or not they did. However, I am telling you that *if* Luminous Studios had any debt, then that figure would have been including during the amortization that occurred during the same quarter that XVI launched. None of this is refutable, it is all fact.

>>538189906
What would this magical sentence even say? What are you hoping it's going to say?

>>538189906
Why do you think a financial report is the same as an accounting book?

>>538189146
See >>538180010
ff16 budget is verified as $300m by staff who worked on ff16

your made up $59m is not even talking about ff16 specifically, just a vague "aaa games can cost as $59" guestimate by a guy who made a post 6 months before ff16 even released

and that's after yoshitpiss confirmed ff16 cost minimum $100m, then said it was the most expensive ff ever, which $300m lines up with

>>538190220
see>>538189418
just post a sentence where they mention luminous studios shutting down in the same report as XVI launch.
I’m sure you both can, since you both were so confident in claiming it was just a few minutes ago.

Finally the thread is good again

>>538190440
I already posted what you are asking.
see >>538188090

>>538190243
>LP was the cause of that loss, not XVI
>ok then prove it
>woah woah woah you think SE would actually say something like that
yoshifags…

>>538188814
do you not know what ammortization is

>>538188974
yes it is
SE has also gone on record stating they amortise costs within the 3 months of release but sometimes do it all in the quarter the game releases in if its like ff16 and releasing at the end of a quarter, in ff16s all Its costs were ammortized q1 fy2024

forspoken released jan 2023 so start of q4 fyp2023 so no matter what all forspoken costs are accounted for in q4 fy2023

>>538190616
that image isn’t the financial report lmao.
And that image was made in march, a totally different financial quarter than XVI lmao

>>538190034
>Aramaki went from being both the head of a studio AND the director of a video game to being the leader of a team
That's a demotion

>>538190294
see
>>538182783
300M is nonsense and has been debunked many times
59M is much closer to the truth if not the outright truth

>>538189814
>>538190243

notice how that's from march 2023 so fy2023, not the fy ff16 released in

>>538190220
They didn't have any because SE would have disclosed if they did
forspokens costs were ammortized in Q4 fy2023

ff16 was ammortized in q1 fy2024

luminous productions is not hd games sector
ff16 is hd games sector
the loss in operation profits was in hd games sector attributed to the ammortization of ff16s dev and advertising costs

SE said they hoped to profit in q2 but that didn't happen either because ff16 stopped selling by week 2 lmao

>>538190958
Nigher did you really just read “May 1” as “March?

Methinks FFXVI cost $0 because they didn't spend any effort on the game. They just blew a few million on booze and bitches instead of working on it.

>>538191385
Do you think a decline in profits is the same as negative operating income? Do you understand what YoY means?

>>538190616
that statement is from march 2023
so FY2023

Not FY2024 when FF16 released

>>538190784
>And that image was made in march, a totally different financial quarter than XVI lmao
You really, really, really do not understand how anything works. I've tried to explain it to you, and you've made it clear that you are adamant in failing to understand because the logical (and true) conclusion is one that you would prefer not to arrive at.

It's happening.

>>538190810
Literally a promotion, he's leader of the entire bubble on the right now where before he was just head of something equivalent to a creative studio, which he's directly involved with all creative studios now

>>538191772
Good fucking luck, honestly. I was actually scared my PS5 would melt (lol) during some of the Eikon fights, so I'm genuinely curious of how they plan to make it run on the S2 without the console exploding.

>>538190878
it has never been debunked
$300m is verified by staff who worked on ff16 from a financial report made after ff16 released

your $59m is a made up guestimate from an analyst from 6 months before ff16 even released and isn't even about ff16 specifically but just AAA games in general costing at least that much now

>>538191979
Bro clean the dust off your console.

>>538191697
>y-you didn't understand
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/24q1slides.pdf
please point out where in the financial report where LP is mentioned once please.
typing like a grade schooler isn't going to help you I'm afraid.

>>538191862
He's going to be in charge of less people. And he's not directing games anymore. That's a demotion.

You can tell Big B is actually getting very upset because this is one of the very rare times I actually see him using punctuation. It's pretty funny.

>>538191772
An actual motive to do optimization. Doom 2016 could fit on a Switch in under 30 GB.

>>538192065
*reported on a PowerPoint, from a company that did some small localization work for the game,
One single slide that clearly only references other companies' reporting on general industry estimates based on nothing.
Go ahead and refute that. Show me how I'm wrong.

Between this and the Steam sales stats a few threads ago, I think we should rename ourselves:
/ffgg/ - Final Fantasy Guesstimates General

>>538192478
You claimed it was from some random dude who slapped the company name on it, so you're already backpedaling from your original stance.

>>538192202
>typing like a grade schooler
Anon, if either one of us are typing like a grade schooler, it is (You). I've tried repeatedly to explain things to you and you refuse to listen, even when I create a nice picture for you as seen here: >>538188090

You either literally do not and cannot understand, or you are choosing to remain willfully ignorant of facts that are being explained to you in about as clear and concise a manner as it is possible to do simply because you dislike the conclusion that the truth arrives at. *If* Luminous Studios had any debt, Square Enix would have settled it during the same financial quarter that XVI released during. That is just a fact. I don't understand why this is getting you so upset. It's literally just true.

>>538192702
>Square Enix would have settled it during the same financial quarter that XVI released during
I gave you the source and you refuse to point it out where they would mention something that important.
There's nothing stopping you right now.

>>538191409
What's it like being retarded

https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/2023/html/20230228_announcement_EN.html

It was announced on 28th of Feb JP time and reported 1st March by Western outlets
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/forspoken-studio-luminous-productions-merged-with-square-enix

Being effective May 1 doesn't mean that's when the bookeeping occurs you idiot

>>538191559
Do you not see how the insane negative profits despite ff16s net sales aka revenue from 3m sales means that it didn't profit off its own dev and advertising costs?

>>538192294
I like when people bait him into pulling out an old copy/pasta from 2018 or 2019.
The stark contrast really shows how much his mental state has eroded over the years.

>>538192604
I was referring to the actual original source of the 300m figure that was discussed long ago. This new source is just referring back to that. I'm sure you're well aware of that though.

>>538191772
>june 2025
that was 3 months ago lil bro and nothing came of it so far

>>538192870
EFFECTIVE MAY FIRST DUMBASS

>>538192850
>I gave you the source
No, anon, I gave (You) the source and you refuse to look at it.

It's right here, by the way: >>538188090
You can look at it with your eyes open any time that you would like.
Luminous Studios was dissolved in the same financial quarter that XVI launched during. As such, if Luminous Studios had any debt at the time of dissolution, Square Enix would have settled it during the same financial quarter that XVI launched during. That's the last time that I'm going to repeat this to you. It cannot be made any clearer for you.

>>538193024
Do you think every project a company works on is only paid with debt?

>>538192870
>Being effective May 1 doesn't mean that's when the bookeeping occurs you idiot
L O L
O
L

That is exactly what the fuck it means, you absolute mongoloid.

>>538192289
He's literally in charge of the entire engine division and director of SEs in house game engine which is an evolution of luminous engine
his entire career has been programmer for game engines so now he's leader of SEs division specifically for game engine development
he's also still doing r&d for luminous engine too and is directly involved in all the creative studios now that SE is expanding luminous engine to be the defacto SE engine for new AAA titles that started up after the 2024 restructure

>>538189402
nobody seems to know. or care.

>>538192478
Reported in a financial report for a company that worked on ff16
the ff16 stuff is from them because they worked on ff16, the citations are for games they didn't work on


youre clinging to an analyst guestimating shit 6 months before ff16 released and didn't even specify ff16 when talking about $59m being the low ball budget of AAA games these days

>>538193272
>No, anon, I gave (You) the source
no you didn't lol
>It's right here, by the way:
that's not the financial report lol
this is though
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/docs/20230512/page01.html
>Meanwhile, we have implemented several initiatives in FY2023/3 to help us to achieve future growth, including the overhaul of our development organization and title portfolio, and the strengthening of our publishing structure.
>As part of efforts to strengthen our in-house development capabilities, we are in the process of consolidating our Group development resources through the merger of “FORSPOKEN,” developer Luminous Productions into Square Enix Co., Ltd. We look forward to the benefits the new structure will produce.
>We would now like to begin the Financial Results Briefing session of SQUARE ENIX HOLDINGS (the “Company”) for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023 (“FY2023/3”).
Not the same FY.
sorry, but you lose.

>>538193645
>He's literally in charge of the entire engine division and director of SEs in house game engine which is an evolution of luminous engine
which is going to be a much smaller team than the team that makes up the Creative Studios. And he is no longer directing games.

>>538193204
See the February 28th 2023 date? What fiscal quarter is that in?

>>538193925
Your accomplice (or actually, (You) are Barry's accomplice) already folded under his own stupidity, little man

see:
>>538192870
>>538193580

New FFT looking lit.

>>538193272
It was merged on the books in fy2023
The staff physically went back as SE stsff may 1
that also isn't a financial report

also here is SEs official statement on their corporate site >>538192870
Feb 28th is when it occured

And here >>538191385
SE specifically state the operating income loss is due to amortization of ff16s development and advertising costs in Q1 fy 2024

>>538194467
love battle realms

>>538194282
>Report is about events ending in march 31, 2023
>absolutely no mention in 2024 q1 report
>well that doesn't MEAN anything
lmao clown show retard, concession accepted.

>>538194186
See that “Effective May 1” line? What financial year is THAT

>>538194467
FFT : The Frozen Throne...

>>538192294
>>538193082
You can tell Big B is owning his interlocutors because they keep making shit up, while Big B is posting direct SE reports and citations from specific quarters in different fiscal years.

>>538194617
>>538194531
Why are Barry and BA7RY both so flagrantly displaying their own stupidity like this? What would compel you to join forces and compete to see who can be the dumbest "cultist" in this thread?

Do you really need to shitpost so bad that you will announce to the world that you are retarded just to do so?

>>538194728
>>538194851
Can you two explain why its in 2023 (april 2022 - march 2023) but not Q1 2024 with XVI?
it should be easy for you both.

>>538192294
You REALLY struck a nerve. Better watch out.

>>538194851
When you have already decided on a conclusion your only job is to make the data say what you want it to. Instead of reading the data and drawing your conclusions from it.

But then, that also requires a basic competency of the material being studied…

>>538194978
So you do think a FR is the same as an accounting book. Got it.

>>538193352
The difference between ff16 flopping and forspoken flopping is that when forspoken flopped nobody cared because it had such little riding on it to begin with and barely made a dent on SEs financials, while when FF16 flopped, it being SE's flagship title and flopping as bad as it did was catastrophic for SE and the brand, shareholders were furious which caused the stock in Q1 FY2024 to tank far worse than it did from SE's FY2023 results or them announcing Forspoken sales were lacklustre earlier in Q4 FY2023

>>538194978
I have tried several times to explain to you that if Luminous Studios was dissolved effective May 1st, then if it had any debts at the time of its dissolution those debts would have been settled during the same quarter that XVI launched during, because the dissolution of Luminous Studios occurred during that same financial quarter (May 1st of the April 1st - June 30th quarter), but neither Barry nor BA7RY seem to be able to understand this for some reason

>>538192870
>Being effective May 1 doesn't mean that's when the bookeeping occurs you idiot
>>538193580
>That is exactly what the fuck it means, you absolute mongoloid.

>>538195241
considering that's where the accounting is posted for shareholders, you tell me lmao

>>538193580
No it isn't
for example XV dotf dlc was cancelled in September 2018 but wasn't announced til November 2018
November 2018 SE announced tabata had resigned SE but Tabata resigned in September not November

September 2014 SE announced Nomura was no longer on FFXV but that occured in December 2013 not September 2014

>>538194583
I wanna do the same for all the Clans, but I feel more Clans won't have that many units.

>>538195632
>No it isn't
Good lord, you are legitimately retarded.

>>538195401
>then if it had any debts at the time of its dissolution those debts would have been settled during the same quarter that XVI launched durin
lol no that's just you making up excuses to get rid of any blame XVI had.
You can't answer me, because you lost ha ha ha.

>>538193961
He was only technical director of Forspoken because he was head of luminous productions after tabata left and was handling the technical aspects of the game in relation to game engine development on luminous engine

terada was creative director of Forspoken
also terafa left SE in September 2023 and went to Platinum Games working on new action games now

Aramaki is now director of SEs in house game engine in totality, meaning luminous engines evolution will be spread beyond being used in 1 game at a time now
and the entire point of the engine dev division is to be the division that assists on engine dev for teams using the engine going forward, so literally involved in multiple games now

>>538196043
It's genuinely amazing to me that (You) are equally as retarded as Barry with exactly the same cult-like "conclusion-first" ideology as him.

>>538196217
straight to insults in the face of losing an argument

>>538194282
See the date up top?

>>538196275
I can only repeat the same explanation so many times, tiny little man. You've demonstrated that you are not smart enough to understand, and I didn't even think it was something that required a lot of brain power either.

>>538194728
because that's when they are physically moving
bookkeeping was done by end of fy2023 and fy2023 report is when its mentioned
not q1fy2024

>>538196467
Making up excuses that don't follow any real facts can only go so far for you I'm afraid.

>Paulie prides himself on being BA7RY to Barry's Barry
What a miserable fanbase to be part of

Forspoken and that SE Marvel game flopping had a huge impact. All Luminous btw.

>>538194742
I praise Big B for posting direct SE reports, however given that he entered the thread claiming XIV didn't make any profit in the last year when it really made 9.6 billion yen has me questioning his ability to understand these reports.

>>538197716
>however given that he entered the thread claiming XIV didn't make any profit in the last year when it really made 9.6 billion yen
It's even more egregious than that.

The MMO division (XIV + DQX + XI [if it's even profitable]) made 9.6 billion yen in only the past quarter. There are 3 additional quarters to comprise a year.

>>538195035
Big B is owning you.

Fuck sake the Serpent has nothing.

>>538195401
SE holds the final earnings report for a previous fiscal year in may

>>538195736
FY2024 report makes no mention of Luminous Productions or Forspoken
It does however mention XVI which they specifically singled out as causing the OI to tank in Q1 FY2024
Meanwhile FY2023 report is where all mention of luminous productions and forspoken results happened

>>538196217
xvifags like you can never accept reality

the first ever mention of SE restructuring was after ff16 released btw, and was directly caused by ff16 flopping

>>538196908
SE marvel was crystal dynamics in california

that had literally nothing to do with luminous and also released in 2020 in the same fy as ff7r

forspoken released fy2023
ff16 released fy2024 and tanked the oi and stock price worse than anything forspoken did

>>538191772
They just really want it to flop on all three consoles + PC.

why doesn't odin ride a chocobo

>>538191772
so it can flop a 4th time?

>>538191772
I don't see any reason why it would be worth getting over pic.

so ff16 tonnerries in the dlc were repurposed cut content that they lied about being in main game before release

>>538188262
Tifa....

>>538200249
Don’t forget they also have Bayonetta. There’s no reason for them to buy XVI when they already have much better action games available to them.

>>538200249
FFXVI is the better game.

>after a 20 minute break of complete silence, Barry and BA7RY have strapped back in and are at it again
I wonder what they did while they were away.

>>538200653
Not even close.

>>538200653
by being worse in everything

>>538200653
Afraid it's true. Surprised this is even controversial in a Final Fantasy general.

>>538200664
B won btw

>>538200796
We don't like Final Fantasy here. Every other game series is presumed better.

I don't that poorly cloning DMC makes a Final Fantasy game better than the best DMC just because of a logo on a box.

>>538200796
ffxvi is the worst ff an arpg ever made
no wonder yoshitpiss was demoted afterwards

>>538200945
xvi isnt ff
its a fake game hijacking the ff name

>>538200945
True. Even Final Fantasy VII is just Ubislop now, no better than Assassin's Creed.

>>538200653
Afraid so. FFXVI sold more, and if there's anything I've learned on /ffg/, more sales = winning bigly.

>>538201317
4.5 million sales> 3 million shipped and digitally sold

>>538200796
The post that angered the anti-yoshida cult.

>FFXVI is an uninspired clone kusoge, but if you suck its cock that means you're a true FF fan for swallowing absolutely anything they shit out
Yeah, I don't think so. I like FF games, which means party based games with unique mechanics that blends gameplay elements with storytelling. XVI is not that game. If you like FF, you have to realize this.

>>538201317
>if there's anything I've learned on /ffg/, more sales = winning bigly
True. I've learned this as well. That's why /ffg/ loves Yoshida and XIV so much - it's because it is the single most profitable Final Fantasy game in existence, and therefore it is also the best one.

I’m not even sure I’d say that XVI is better than DMC2.

>>538200796
A shoddy imitation has no chance against the original.

>they worship Yoshida because of the money he made for the company (money that was taken from their pocket)
The strangest cults are the ones that worship money.

>>538201317
>if there's anything I've learned on /ffg/, more sales = winning bigly
UNLESS Yoshida is involved in it, then suddenly sales don't mean anything anymore.

>>538200974
I played both and enjoyed Final Fantasy more.

>>538201841
>The strangest cults are the ones that worship money.
Look around you. Don't you see all of the sales, earnings report, and Steam concurrent user conversation? Those are the things that are most important to /ffg/. Even Barry bends the knee to king Yoshida, lord of the sales.

Where did the money come from? Did it come from releasing a single player RPG that sold lots of copies for many years?
Or did it come from monthly subscriptions and a cash shop?

>>538201474
2.3 million sold in the generation it launched.
Including ports from later generations is an unfair advantage.

>>538201474
We know that XVI has sold more than 3.5 between PS5 and PC. We're likely at 5M now but they won't release it as not to embarrass Rebirth, which is totally fair.

>>538202012
That says more about your tastes than much else. The depth of DMC3 isn't found in most modern action games at all.

>>538201879
I cared about sales a lot and I shitposted about XVI's 3 million sales every single day for 9 months. Then, when Rebirth didn't even have a sales announcement, and still to this day has not had a sales announcement, I began to not care as much about sales and I insisted that anyone who mentions sales is a shitposter.

>>538201769
It's why I prefer Far Cry to Rebirth desu

>>538202219
>We're likely at 5M now but they won't release it as not to embarrass Rebirth, which is totally fair.
While I can't say one way or the other whether 5m is a valid figure, you do bring up an interesting point about Rebirth. They can't give XVI a sales update before they say anything about Rebirth. It would look even worse than it already does to have not said anything at all about Rebirth's sales.

>>538202352
Michael Mando is one of my favorite actors in Better Call Saul just because of Vaas.

>>538202219
>>538202451
That's sadly the reason they had to go radio silent after the initial Over 3M announcement and had to silence that journo only pegging it at 3.5.
We are easily over 4M and very likely at 5M now.
The 10/10 FFXVI was just winning too bigly for VIIbirth...

It is extremely revealing the way that Yoshi simps will literally put their neck on the line for Yoshida in absolutely any way possible, even directly contradicting themselves.

XVI was made to appeal to a young audience, but also "only zoomers dislike XVI"?
Rebirth is Ubisoft because it's side content and mini games, while XVI is a "standard Final Fantasy" game?
XVI is quite literally a poor mans DMC, but it's actually somehow better than DMC3 (the very best and influential one) because "Final Fantasy" is on the box?

Will they admit their tribalistic logic means that Rebirth is better than the best Ubisoft game? Just because FF is on the box?
Or does "FF" being on the box only matter when it's "CS3" on the box?

>>538202841
Shut up the fuck, fatherless loser.

>>538202712
>The 10/10 FFXVI was just winning too bigly for VIIbirth...
They really need to launch Part 3 as a complete bundle of all 3 games for like $70 or $80. Otherwise, I genuinely fear for how poor its sales might be. They should sell a complete bundle, all 3 games, same price as a regular game, and that way they can also count every sale as "3" different sales of the Remake trilogy, and then they can massively inflate the numbers to like ~15 million or something like that from just 2 million in sales of Part 3. (7+2+6)

>>538202917
Nerves struck, are they? You're in a cult, you know.

>>538201761
I was going to say you were crazy, but gun to my head if you asked me to choose between an action game that is completely busted but can be knocked out in 5 hours or less, or an action game that is 30 hours long and might put me to sleep, I might need to go with the former.

>>538202917
You struck a nerve, the fatherless didn't even bother playing dumb this time. You angered him THAT much.

>>538203220
Hahahahaha he thinks XVI is better than DMC3 because he's in a cult

This is what XVI needed. It's a game much longer than any DMC playthrough therefore it needed different weapons with big movesets. SoP did this right with many weapon and a job system.

DMC3 is 20 years old and is still being copied.
Wonder what XVIs legacy will be in 2043.

>>538203220
So did you, the fatherless is malding right now.