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This is NOT /g*g/. If you wanna talk about Gr*nd Strategy, fuck off to >>>/trash/ or >>>/vst/.

==NEWS==
Endless Legend 2 demo has been extended: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3407390/view/836099892906558187
News Tower will release on November 4th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU2MZJadP40&ab_channel=TwinSailsInteractive
C-Beams devlog 46: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nwaI6GjO5w&ab_channel=LevelCapGaming
Tropico 7 announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ZrwBfbALU&ab_channel=KalypsoMedia
Nebulous: Fleet Command, Devlog 38: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXgbXiJdJTk&ab_channel=EridanusIndustries
Plan B: Terraform, will release on August the 29th: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1894430/view/532104920883537578
Dev Journal #106: Organic Difficulty in GalCiv IV: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1357210/view/515215878272319582

== Pastebins ==
Alpha Centauri (new 14/06/22): https://pastebin.com/QgEvG3ET
Free and open source games pastebin: https://pastebin.com/8nRQckSN
Stellaris: https://pastebin.com/hPfrhazx https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Stellaris_Wiki
Stellaris DLC guide: https://rentry.org/STDLC384
Endless Space 2 + Endless Legend: https://pastebin.com/yu57huWm
Civilization: https://pastebin.com/eeL9tyaW
/cbg/: https://pastebin.com/ZSLVg9kT
Workers & Resources: https://pastebin.com/XaWF8mE6

Is Stellaris the Simcity 4 of shitty space 4x games?

>>538119125
A Popular, heavily modded game people play for role playing value?
Yes, it's exactly that.

Hey, no dying!

>>538128239
fuck steam, GOG's got a sale for $67.49

>>538128580
4x is a dead genre.

>>538130894
What is dead may never die

Aurora bros!
2.6 is out

>>538137460
What the actual fuck, its not a hoax.
Fucking hell, the second i started a new campaign AND when i have to go to work Steve does that..

>>538137460
Has he added graphics? I need to see pretty things.

>>538137847
>t. 5

>>538141019
Respect my disability, bigot.

>>538145721
Being a faggot isnt a disability.

>>538135237
Civ4xg fhtagn!

Now that the dust has settled, is Humankind worth a try?

I feel like if I talked about AoW4 in /twg/ I would get more feedback lmao. This place has terminal cancer.

>>538165393
You can't even talk about historical Total War in /twg/ these days.

fuck it, I may as well fight assyria while france is distracted with sweden

I am so ready for this game to be over

>>538165393
no u

>>538165393
I hate /twg/. They have excellent games, and they waste their breath on "nooo tranquol soon".

barely above a medium dificulty

>>538170481
Motherfucker is actually trying to play a game I tried to forget. What race were you playing?

>>538170761
Goblins vs pc Dwarfs

>>538176775
..huh. I always thought goblins were shit.

>>538178083
maybe they are, and maybe that is why is hard, but I like big orange giants throwing big rocks.

>>538178276
Oh yeah. These assholes are the best siege machine in the game.

>>538165393
>f3 aow4 in previous thread
>no results
>f3 age of wonders in previous thread
>no results
>f3 age of wonder in previous thread
>one post, about fucking ff14
that cancer there better not be you
so are you going to at least try to talk or ask about aow4 here, or are you an eternal faggot
ask a goddamn question

>>538194542
I did post a lot of AoW4 a while ago.
Mostly confused questions because THAT GAME KICKS MY ASS

>>538196056
For the longest while I was playing on easy just to learn everything
AND because someone said the AI still gets a small eco buff even on normal, not sure if that was true or if it still gets that handout in the current patch since that was way back in AoW4 launch
difficulty settings expanded since then to be more modular, and I got really used to enjoying the combat. Forced myself to play mystic potential culture and not rely on auto-resolve
now I'm a lot more confident in the game but still mainly just setup power fantasies for myself. Like, half my created civs are all underground societies since underground feels so fucking good after the Giant Kings dlc

Fuck is this demon thingy?
Did Zen Edition add new things?

bump

>>538204965
No

>>538205343
Why not?

>>538205343
yes, fuck you.

>>538205684
If you're going to bump, you must post a picture.
Them's the rules.

>see stellaris supposedly changed how population and growth works in their latest big patch
>Oh damn does that mean there's actually population simulation for a change instead of the same garbage "your city has 7 population" system everyone in this genre aped from civ?
>No lol you just have 100 pop instead of 1 pop
>Everything's basically the same but times 100
What even was the point of changing the system then.

>try wolf
>against lotus
>expect to steamroll them
>get steamrolled instead
...what.

I've been unfocused, because of a comment a friend made a while ago. Basically, he claimed you can put everything into D&D alignement, and I've been struck trying to put the different Battle Realms clans into this chart, because at first glance, it's simple:
- Dragon is Good Lawful,
- Serpent is Evil Lawful,
- Wolf is Good Unlawful,
- Lotus are Cunts.

But it doesn't work, because, in the case of the Dragon: at first glance, they're all honorable and chill as fuck, but when you take a look, the archers and spearmen are humble warriors while the Samurai is proud of his skill, but they are still all fanatics ready to murder the fuck out of you violently just you even present a danger, they won't wait for you to attack first.
So does that really work?

>>538209241
>he claimed you can put everything into D&D alignement
that's retarded, people have been arguing over alignment for decades
people can't even agree to what alignment Batman would be, anything more complex than a saturday morning cartoon character isn't going to fit neatly in a 3x3 chart

>>538209241
>Basically, he claimed you can put everything into D&D alignement
tell him that he's a fucking moron

>>538207264
None. The change from 25 was just that they wanted pop numbers to be high so it looked like planets had lots of people.
So next update they'll probably multiply the number by another 100. Then your new colonies will start with 10,000 settlers and your capital will start the game with 500,000 pops.

>>538209835
Batman is obviously chaotic neutral.

what the fuck

oh shit I think I won a score victory

>>538213539
let's drop a celebratory nuke or two

>>538213721
pretty much all of my score was from nukes. now that I've used them, france is higher than me. too late though, hehehe

>>538214093
>you can win the game by nuking everyone
brb goin 2 whitehouse

>>538214587
no, you misunderstand. I won because I didn't nuke anybody

>>538215113
Oh, from stockpiling and hoarding them?
Now everything makes a lot more sense. I think I finally understand.

>>538214093
>we'll let you claim victory just please don't fucking nuke us

>>538209835
As a gross oversimplification, I mean. Of course you can't judge someone only through this alignement, which is why Warhammer RPG instead uses two goals.

>>538213539
>year 2050
>turn 330 (so quick game speed?)
Yeah, score victory. What victory condition were you originally going for?

>>538220764
I have no idea honestly, diplo was probably my best shot

>>538137460
how does one even play Aurora? has he made a tutorial?

>>538223514
>has he made a tutorial?
Lol.
On a real answer, reading the wiki, tutorials made by other people and if you can stomach it, youtube tutorials.
Almost all of them will be kinda outdated in some regards, but I think (You) are smart enough to overcome a minor variation.

>>538223514
Trial and error.
Its not that complicated game desu.

Are there any mods for aurora that make it look less than my 62 year old coworker's spreadsheet at least?

>>538237986
There's a mod that makes it look like win95 spreadsheet

>>538235206
lol

>>538213721
Hooray!

>>538196056
Is it still kicking your ass?
I burned a lot of time on it. Still bad at it I guess, but I at least know what's going on if I'm getting raped

alright here are the next game's settings. doing another team game, with 4 teams of 2. I am going M A X I M U M war this time, conquering everything that looks at me the wrong way. playing rome because they've been a pain in my ass the previous two games

>>538265906
I can survive, compared to how I fared in AoW2 where I'd get raped by dragons, but the AI leaves me in the dust.

>>538271415
not a great start

>>538273309
yep.

Haven't touched Stellaris in few years.
How is 4.0 and Biogenesis?
I've heard it is bad and not getting much better.

>>538276231
biogenesis is good, 4.0 needs work but there's another DLC in 2 weeks so it's going to need even more work

>>538276231
>How is 4.0 and Biogenesis?
Trash. The pop changes are absurd and ended up being absolute failure and the game runs even worse now.

>>538276990
>the game runs even worse
Anons keep saying this but it doesn't seem as bad, to me. It slows down in late game, as it always does, but it doesn't repeatedly hang for a moment like it used to. Pop calculations seem to be done monthly rather than daily, like they used to.

>>538276402
>>538276990
I guess I'll ignore it and go back being bad in Anno 1800

>>538273309
>go for a war run
>get spawned in with the most aggro motherfucker alive
>he has super strong early game units
>plus this dude >>538273623 whose civ bonuses let him science good
>meaning he'll keep technological parity with your army for longer
>and fucking Alexander, another often aggro AI, is on the only other team that hasn't declared war on you yet
Wew. Have fun, friend.

Is this a black woman adeptus mechanicus beating 3 necrons on her own? Aren't necrons supposed to be really fucking difficult to kill even for Space Marines?

>>538273623
okay, I don't remember which team this smug asshole is on, but it's something

>>538281617
yeah tell me about it

>>538284534
they were with the aztecs apparently, so I'm turning straight around to kill the koreans

>>538284756
weird. I'm not going to do it because they denounced alexander and I am for sure going to be at war with monty in the future

>>538288291
one city down, 3 to go

monty and alex went to war too, so it was a good idea to not declare friendship

>>538288528
s-siam? sir?

>>538237986
That's part of the soul of it.

>>538283259
I didn't even notice she was black. You really are obsessed with race...

bump

>>538297287
I only noticed it myself when I paused at this specific shot where she crushes a space terminator's head like he's made out of paper. I guess it only legitimizes the pattern recognition.
Even Tyranids fear these dudes and yet here's a trio of them getting trashed by a tech nerd.

pmub

>>538276990
How can Stellaris run even worse. It wasn't running great ever since the 2.0 update.

Players should be able to emphasize tech unlocks but not focus them exclusively like civ does.

If Civ7 wanted crises they should have given unique tech or units like in Millennia.

>>538315023
Well no shit tyranids fear necrons. There's zero biomass on them.

>>538283259
Play Mechanicus. You beat those skeleton wannabes like they owe you money.

>been getting a strong itch to start playing AoEII ranked again
>ended on a win streak high note well over a year ago at 1450

is there a way to just nuke my elo down to 1k so I don't have to just lose 30 games in a row while 'remembering' how tf to do everything?

>>538324085
They fear them because they can't beat them in a war of attrition, not because they don't have biomass. The latter is just disinterest.

observe the assfucking that monty has received, courtesy of famous buttfuckers alexander the great and me, augustus caesar

>>538315023
Techpriests aren't exactly space marines. Aren't they more like commanders?

>>538331725
just about done here. I'm going to raze that last city

Oh heck, chi shield suddenly a lot better.

Oh, dragon breath got nerfed, now it only eats four dragon warriors.

>>538338063
>the food resource is represented by rice
name 10 strategy games so I can avoid them

>>538340921
Yes? Is this really the hill you want to die on?

>>538341202
i'll gladly die on it once you explain those chinese characters in the bottom left to me. 水雲?

>changed Tausil's warlock skill
>can no longer grieve ally by killing his units
Sadge.

>>538341989
Hell if I know. Might be gibberish for all I know, Battle Realms isn't historical at all.

>>538331783
>>538324759
Yes, mechanicus are less combat-inclined, but them being able to fight so well would raise the question of why they aren't the frontline of the Imperium instead of, well, the marines.
Here's a cutscene from this very same game series that shows how strong they are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa6F-DuVmIo

>>538347341
>warriors only beat space marines because they outnumber them
ok
Also, consider the following:
it all depends from dices, so don't rely on freak accidents and lucky streaks to jauge of someone's strength. I once had a squad of termagaunts absolutely analhilating a squad of these dark eldars wyches in a single shooting phase.

>>538347478
>because they outnumber them
They get back up after being shot. That's what gives them the "near-unstoppable metal tide" reputation that they had when they were a new faction. That's why the only surefire way to stop them is to deactivate their tombs/monoliths before they ever wake up.

But even in gameplay they're tough to kill, hence why they move so slowly as a balancing measure. Dawn of War Winter Assault's final mission is portrayed as, and plays out like a fucking nightmare because of that. It takes an imperial Titan just to stop a local mob of them... and now they're jobbers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puaEL2cL6h8&t=776s

war, what's it good for

It's time lads, and i'm here for it. Say no to reroll, be a real civilization.

>>538347478
> I once had a squad of termagaunts absolutely analhilating a squad of these dark eldars wyches in a single shooting phase.
you're wasting your breath, nobody here actually plays the game

>>538352830
I would 100% reroll with that much marsh, that's fucked up

>>538355473
It's okay, the swamptites will rise.

Uh oh

>>538348786
It takes an Imperial Titan to stop several MONOLITHS.

>>538352878
They should, it's a pain to set up, but it can be hilarious.

>>538358095
what kind of fucked up map settings are you playing on

>>538358343
300x300, 31 civs, TAM mod.

>>538358413
yeah the map gen gets kinda wack when you go above vanilla sizes and civs

have you seen those clusters of 10+ luxes?

>>538358908
Not yet, but those are funny, once witnessed a mountain range of silver in the MEM mod.

Controling the marshes.

>>538358095
Real David vs Goliath energy in that map.

>>538365127
Indeed! How much the pheonicians have discovered the world for me.

>>538365450
Is the island with 3 cities your land (even though you have bunch more)?

>>538366202
Nope, i'm on an island surrounded by sea and ocean we no timber (for advanced boats), I have nine cities.

>>538365450
Holy shit. I didn't have a grasp of Civ 3 map sizes so seeing that puts it into amazing perspective. Something akin to a Pale Blue Dot type of awe.

>>538367994
Biggest civ ever I think, the turn timer can be bad but you can go up to 340 x 340. The zoomed out and more simplistic design just hits me right, it's why I just do not like the district system of all the 4x's recently.

The marshes have been cleared and hopefully I pop some lumber.

>>538365450
...heck.

Yeah the farms look better for sure.

>>538118126 (OP)
Are we hyped for Endless Legend 2 (and Olden Era)?

Wonder how much they will cost.

>>538366534
Ye but where are you on the map, it's pretty confusing

>>538372780
I'm on the island in the square purple color.

>>538372839
See
>>538366202
So that island with 3 cities is where you are then.

>>538372979
Yeah, I thought you were thinking I had colonies, when you said alot more land.

>>538373090
Cause the map shows only 3 but you have 10 cities on it.

>>538373203
Yeah don't worry about it anymorem it's all ogre, VP points ended it. I was going for this mod's version of space race and didn't make it. Full map though.

You should know this!

>>538376849
I don't know anything.

>>538378819
Okay Jon Snow.

>>538370189
>all those seas
Is that done manually or automatically by the game?

Civ 3 but with hexes

>>538395563
Like magic?

>>538399651
Like 6 sided polygons.

>waited for Aurora 2.6 for so long I decided to get back into WRSR for the time being
>just as my republic really starts coming together, Steve drops the update
It's so fucking unfair.

>>538352710
>That UI
Civ never recovered from that. UI's have been shit ever since.

>>538402065
Glorious republic tovarish.

>>538402527
Thank you! New city and steel industry coming up, I'll see how far I can get before the urge to conquer the stars overwhelms me.

>>538400003
Sounds like witchcraft, to me.

I wiped out korea before the aztecs. rip.

>>538418654
And somehow you're the bad guy.

>>538418654
He's right.
Now who's gonna make RimWorld HAR/xenotype mods?

>>538425345
I mean he kills non Whites so who cares.

>kick paradox 10 dollars for their scam of a dlc sub for stellaris because somehow i would have to spend 100 dollars to get the ones i dont have
>they update the game every 2 days now and all mods are permanently broken
why is every game i like made by the most incompetent retard gorilla niggers on the planet

>>538387959
By the game, probably just wonky generation.

>>538427415
Those haven't been relevant since Biotech.

Good night.

>>538445254
Good night.

>>538436670
Because you keep giving money to paradox.

>>538447261
This.

Play Song of Conquest.

I'm in a terrible position here. enemies on all sides and that cunt hiawatha made two citadels on our border

the looming war against alex and lizzie is going to be really rough, even more so if rama and hiawatha join in

post you cunts

>>538482587
I don't think I will

>>538482587
Can't, busy trying to pimp my minotaur lord while not having any fire or earth gems.

>>538487589
I never managed to figure out how to play dryad. The get free armies, sure, but they spawn so slowly that you'll never get anything done. And summoning armies is ridiculously expensive for the paltry amount of gems you might be lucky to find.

>>538491207
Oh, it's Dominions, not Conquest of Elysium, so I can recruit minotaurs normally.

bump

bump

bump

How do we solve the DLC problem?

>>538469158
Hmm. Based on empire score fighting Alex looks like it'll be tougher, but logistically easier since your empire's core is right next to him. After a you capture a city of two from him you should have a relatively "safe" front line as he'll be attacking into lands that have no real effect on your production.

Lizzie'll be a bitch to fight solely because of distance. Wittenberg will force some attention west when you really want to expand into Daegu/Newcastle to bring the war on her turf. Luckily all the hills should help defending their initial push, but that's a lot of distance and chokepoints for you to cross to get into her core.

Either way, blood for the blood god.

>>538510685
Return to expansion packs.

>>538510685
By making a law that orders death penalty to games that are launched unfinished and buggy.

>cant help but to play Aurora on lowest possible research speed because i hate the idea of some military models/generations not seeing combat
I hate that my fucking brain started to be this fucking autistic.

>>538516581
It's the same thing for me when I play Rule the Waves 3 (which is coincidentally also a spreadsheet simulator but with quasi-RTS battles as well). I have to turn research speed all the way down because otherwise I'll end up constantly replacing and refitting ships because I got a new fire control or whatever, but even then I still use the separate option for slower heavier than air research because I want to play with big gun ships that tend to get sunk by planes pretty quickly.

>>538516581
What if all weapon and armour upgrades were +# instead of a new laser, plasma, phaser, doomray?
All ships would effectively upgrade at once, regardless of design.

>>538517275
Weirdest part is that i didnt use to be like that.
When i played Civ i was perfectly fine with the idea that the earliest combat units wont see much combat before upgrades, that they are merelt something that i meant to be obsolete soon and is purely for guarding early cities or defences against barbarians..
And now when i play Aurora i feel like i miss something when my 1st tier engine, conventional armour, barely can call it a warship corvette havent seen at least 10 battles.
Like i know that many warship types irl also never saw actual combat and got obsolete and replaced by newer shit but after few "missed" tech levels like that i get such intense restartitis that i mostly just restart the entire game...
Perspective of clearing the entire tech tree paralyzes me despite me never actually doing that in my life.
>>538517971
Thats exactly how it works in Aurora.

>>538517971
That would be boring. It's much more interesting to get new components and then design ships around them and refit old designs with new stuff. The trick is getting the pacing right. You want new stuff often enough that you don't have to wait ages but at the same time you don't want it often enough that building existing designs feels like a waste cause "I will have the X soon anyways"

>>538516581
Try parallel research, it helps with this problem by "batching" few techs at a time making upgrades more natural and easier to perform.

>>538510685
What problem? Im okay with games that have one or two dlc's that are of decent size. Only games with huge amounts of dlc's are a problem in my opinion.

holy fucking shit alexander is fucking with me

>>538526172
two can play at that game bitch

>>538526383
I'm going to have conniptions

>>538527646
hiawatha declared war on me and oh my god I don't want to do this I'm so tired

>>538529563
>only share a border because of a single city
>have to cross hills and mountains to reach into his territory
>it looks like he has the great wall, meaning your movement inside his land is slowed

Eating Korea is really cascading into a lot of bullshit, huh. Maybe Buffalo Creek could be a good fortress to stand your ground on, assuming he doesn't have open borders with Alex.

>>538516581
How long does a typical game of Aurora take? Less than ten or more than ten hours?

>>538535892
I absolutely should not have taken jeonju

>>538538242
Aurora is less of a game than it is a single player role playing experience. There's no wind condition and the game lasts as long or as sort as you like. Do you want to name all your admirals and ships, pick who commands what and when and pretend to send personnel on shore leave? Probably takes longer than if you just unga bunga that stuff and let missile go brrrr..

How is Tlatoani: Aztec Cities?

>>538546327
I haven't played too much, but i'm pumped, also if you like city sims like that check out Nebuchadnezzar

>>538546479
Already played Nebuchadnezzar, like it a lot. Still have to do the last mission and the dlc. Was just wondering about Tlatoani since it's on sale.

Bump

>>538559034
If 4chan were a videogame, bumping would be cheating.

Haven't played in a few weeks and after a few turns I got this spooky premonition from the oracle I built. Last time it was an earthquake and tsunami that destroyed most of Athens and polluted the land so I couldn't work or rebuild there for 20 turns. Let's see what I get this time.

>>538569592
From the creators of the Donkey, we give you the Horse.

>>538571292
Rome and the Etruscans are here in Italy and they don't like each other.

>>538563331
And having a sexy OP wouldn't? Maybe I should dig my old photos, then...

Good night.

War for the Overworld kinda fun, but why is the campaign so hard?

>>538574662
el presidente........ my liege.....

>>538574758
it's not, you're probably just bad

live

>>538546327
Do I get to watch priest whipping lines of children as they march to the mountains to be slaughtered and if so does the whipping-crying coefficient actually affect the rain? If so that would be fucking kino.

We need more absurd or schizo city building games

>>538604843
I'd buy a Tropico game in the Cruelty Squad universe.

>>538604843
Game idea: Coral Reef city builder.
You play as a sentient coral reef and have to grow tubes n shit and get fish to live in them. You have lots of specialised "buildings" to attract different species of fish. They're both population and resource because they have to eat each other.
It's also important to maintain an attractive look so you can get human tourists and collect their dropped cameras, phones and cash to upgrade your tech tree.

>>538583509
cringe

Game idea:
They Are Billions-like, but with dwarfs.

>>538617319
They Are Goblinnions
Because goblins. Get it?

>>538606884
A living city city builder sounds neat. Something like Alpha Centauri with a living planet is another alternative.

You can remove 1 mechanic from all future strategy games. What is it?

>>538638318
espionage

>>538638480
There is no honour in espionage.

>>538617319
How would that work? Like you take the Nauglamír and don't pay them for their work and the midgets begin attacking in rage?

bump

EL2 Demo makes Civ7 look like an early access indie title. Firaxis what the fuck happened

>>538654213
Maybe it's because they have been the top dog for so long they don't dare to take risks to make something truely new.

>>538654435
That makes no sense, as civ 7 has the most significant changes since 1UPT, if they wanted to play it safe they would've stuck with the formula or copied a better received game than Humankind.

>>538654435
Thats exactly the opposite of what they did though.
They took big risks, fucked with the formula too much and people hated it as soon as they announced it and people never stopped hating it.

That on its own was bad enough, the game releasing extremely stripped of features, polish and mechanics and coming off more as a "le fun competitive pvp game between le friends" than a legitimate 4X game was also bad enough of its own

Both of them together was an absolute carcrash

>>538654435
I think you are confusing risk taking with complacency. They took enormous risks by deviating so massively off the most successful game in the series so far, even daring to copy a flop of a game with "bet we can do that better (we can't)" attitude. They were complacent because though thought they could release a broken game and fix it with DLC but even if the game wasn't heap of trash on a technical level and had polish of civ 6 it would have still been a failure because the risky core features they decided to go with were just bad.

>>538638318
cloaked units that need a detector

>>538638318
5 million different resources.

>>538665848
>They were complacent because though thought they could release a broken game and fix it with DLC
tbf, that's basically they've done that for the past few games

>>538638318
turn-based

>>538638318
real-time without pause
give me the ability to pause and plan things out
t. almost 30

>>538638318
Infinite resource deposits.
Make everyone have to really think about the shit they build and send to the front.

>>538654213
>>538654435
On a more optimistic guess, natural turnover as old creative teams move on/retire and a new team gets the helm. It was nearly 9 years between 6 and 7, and they've obviously taken notice of how Amplitude has made its splash in 4X. They're juggling bold new ambitions, trying to keep franchise legacy/traditions, and responding to/aping other mechanics put forth by their competition.

But also keep in mind that basegame Civ is vastly different from final product Civ. They're going to change mechanics a lot as the years go by; hell, vanilla Civ V had powerful infinite city sprawl that got nerfed so hard that Brave New World Civ V has to deal with "Go Tradition, Go Tall, Five Cities Max (generally) or get fucked by happiness penalties." And that was only within 3 years. By the time 7 is done with the game will be hopefully be in a much better state.

Lastly, to paraphrase Sid Meier himself a lot of Civ players will find and stick with "their" Civ game. Whatever entry has mechanics that jive with them best will be the one they come back to regardless of whatever the newest/flashiest entry is. I'm guessing that small thought leads to Sid allowing a lot more risk to be taken with editing the formula, even if it's beyond the team'a abilities.

>>538643127
More like Dwarf Fortress with goblins sieges. Or elves. Or kobolds.

>>538654213
>>538654435
This applies to corporations just as well as it does government agencies

>>538685604
is this inevitable

>>538686045
unfortunately
once the idealist founder is dead, all bets are off

>>538466505
already did and it was ruined by the hyper balancing autism

>>538686045
The leader must rule with an iron fist and remain true to his vision.

One more turn!

Would /civ4xg/ ever play an indie 4x game?

>>538709120
What would you even do in an indian 4x game
designate shitting streets before your rivals can?

>>538194542
no, I just bought it so I hvaen't had the opportunity to post anything. I'll post some of my civs. This is a blood cult, worshiping some sort of fallen angel messiah. I haven't unlocked cult of personality yet.

>>538711805
My favorite faction in MtG is Golgari/Witherbloom, so I made an expy with bugmen and a withered old crone lady for the leader, supposed to look like Willowdusk, Essense Seer.

>>538712060
My favorite faction in Warhammer is Nurgle, but the giant isn't fat enough for my taste to make a Great Unclean one. I don't really like the look of the eldritch beings for Nurgle, but I tried my best.

>>538709120
i've played tons of endless space 1

>>538712179
And this is just Orion from Warhammer Fantasy. Not sure if I like this guy just yet.

>>538712306
Orion is a cunt.

Anyone here played Kaiserpunk?
How is it?

>>538720171
That's exactly what I want to be.

>>538723925
The only good thing about Orion is that he's burned alive every year.

>>538724013
lmao, yeah yeah Malagor. Oh shit, I should make the RARROO boys for AOW 4.

Will DoW4 be good?

Given the Kalypso sale happening now, is Tropico 4 complete still the best Tropico game?

>>538735684
No, that'd be Tropico 2.

Any 4X games like this?

>>538737765
Fuck off.

>>538735684
yes by far

dump

>>538711805
>>538712060
>>538712179
>>538712306
>can't share any of my creations since still work
Still nice, I could have fun just screwing with the faction creator all day. I managed to curb my ideas to just trying to refine a few civs for now
>>538724949
Goats already look like discount Gors
But, what you can also do, is hit any other humanoid races with the Reveler and Animal Kinship TF spells. Gives them goat legs and beast fur for your chosen people
KEEPING cities doesn't really mesh with Beastmen, but I guess you can compromise and go Primal culture for max unga bunga, and pick Chosen Destroyers society trait to rape and pillage

>>538402065
It will take weeks of bugfixing to be playable, as always. The eternal boomer doesn't test his new spaghetti code before release to this day, like how can you not catch conditional orders being broken on 2.6.

>>538735661
No way to tell until more gameplay is revealed
Relic shit the bed with their last few games so seeing dev studios switch to the Iron Harvest guys actually makes me cautiously optimistic
IH didn't wow me but it didn't look bad either

Any news on Falling frontier?
Still not gonna join any discord.

>>538748369
Chosen Destroyers is fun as fuck. RN i'm running an evil pyromancy elf build, and just burning cities in the campaign. Seems sorta broken, as long as you jump on top of a free city early.

>>538753260
Doesnt seem so.

>>538753260
Go back to sleep, anon. Return in a decade.

>getting Stellaris itch again
No, begone demon!!

>>538760132
Yeah, ok. I'll just get back to my crypt.

ten

Have the stellaris devs mentioned whether wilderness empires will be able to psionically ascend with the new dlc? It made sense for them to be locked to bio ascension before since gestalt empires couldn’t be psionic, but now that they can I see no reason why we can’t have a psychic forest

>>538760631
Where else can you be spiritual robots?

>>538775294
Whats the point when warfare sucks and everything is the same?

>>538776489
Well done. You are safe for another day.

>>538760631
>>538775294
>>538776489
Mod it. You could be a race of huge titty cow girls. Give into your feelings, boy.

Why the heck do I have way more pops on planet then my employed/civilian pops?
Also holy crap it sucks to wrangle conquered worlds into functioning status. No idea how to fix the amenities issue without replacing every building with lux/holos (which the native pops can't work).

>>538778745
Slaves? Primitives? Disconnected hive species?
It should say.

>>538778902
Slaves. Can't change them from indentured without crashing at least the consumer goods economy and they're not becoming residents until they realize their new god is the state and their opinion of war should be yes.

>>538778745
This is the reason I've either gone tall this update, or just abduct / enslave everyone. It's not worth the effort to conquer.
But I think for amenities, you're supposed to have civilians. They're going to nerf the luxury housing soon iirc

>>538779634
I just displace them.

>>538781390
Oh me too. I dump fliers before I send in the planet cracker.

How the fuck am I supposed compete with runaway AI's? Every game there's always one asshole that's on another continent and completely eclipses everyone else. In this case I got an island start and I'm far behind everyone. and I knew I should have rolled a different map. I can't be bothered with specialists and shit.
I am orange line, Carthage

Every fucking game is like this. I am playing on prince difficulty I have played this game for years and I never got good at it

>>538785709
Same.

>>538785824
Godfuckingdamnit. I love this game so much but I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong. I don't expand until my economy is destroyed, I try to wage wars strategically and get the jump on my neighbor if he's got really good land. Fucking hell.

>>538785709
I applaud your pure run but yeah you gotta specialize in that predicament. All those no quiter and no rerollers are the best.

I need to refresh before I reply. This always happens
>>538786269
Yeah I don't like to quit or reroll I like a challenge even though clearly I'm not good enough at civ for it. It's very rare that I reroll only for really harsh starts. Man I really hate specialists it's a really annoying and tedious thing to manage I don't like it at all. Civ 3 in that regard for not having them

>>538785709
Are there any 4X games that try simulating complacency? If your civilisation gets too rich without war and challenge, then it would start suffering admin costs that grow exponentially.
All empires eventually steamroll, and they all eventually collapse due to internal corruption.

>>538778745 here. Checked world again and it's world pop is 8.4k and the total amount of jobs being worked is 4.6k. None of my original world has this discrepancy, it's only the conquered ones. What's going on here?

>>538786810
civilians

>>538786721
It eventually does catch up with you. Shit gets really fucking expensive and fast. I could have sworn there was inflation in this game, I've been playing K-mod I don't know if it got rid of it

great another island start with tundra
I'm gonna ride this out, fail and bitch some more

>>538787869
You have an AI with you this time at least.

>>538787207
Could you compete with the runaway AI by targeting a single, high-production city and then hold your ground and hope he drowns in the upkeep cost from the rest of his country?

I for one enjoy campaigns where the AI goes crazy and I have to hold on for dear life.

>>538787156
You're almost on the mark. From what I've gathered slaves don't become civilian roles. Thus reason I wasn't seeing working pops of the same number is I literally didn't have enough proper jobs for them.
Which means years in this game have passed by with them doing fuckall while I tried to puzzle out why they were doing fuckall.
In my defense, pretty sure slave pop in another game I played became some form of civ from some wacky origin/civic/glitch.

>>538787967
I had Montezuma last game and map reveals I'm on a continent tucked away at the corner
>>538787978
I am by no means an expert on this game. The closest thing I ever did to that was completely bombing the enemies cottages and they suffered for it. They are tile improvements that produces most commerce. If you take away his high production city, they still has a strong economic output keeping them afloat. The AI is a pushover in vanilla civ 4 I am playing a mod called K-Mod, the AI WILL fuck your shit up militarily. The AI knows how wage wars
In the game I posted the problem stems from me not having a large enough economy to support a big enough army to actually attack him. You could befriend neighboring civs of the enemy to wage war with you but this game I was just too far gone to make an actual dent.

>>538790259
>the AI WILL fuck your shit up militarily
Yeah but at the end of the day you can delete the save file and turn off the computer, and there's absolutely fuck all the AI can do about that.

>>538790705
kek

>>538118126 (OP)
WEAR IT

>>538787207
>a world where 70% of government funds go to research
Imagine.

>>538798442
And education.

so I downloaded age of wonders 3 and it's alright

so I finally had sex and it's alright

>>538809958
tell us the story anon

>>538809958
Did that end your path towards wizardry? Or did you get your magical powers first?

>>538810796
The latter.

>another age of wonder 4 game
>ANOTHER game of me getting left behind by AI
FUCK!

>>538810796
ok I'm taking a long hiatus from civ 4. I was doing so well on my continent, first in everything, meet other continent and it never even began. Mongolia is just too far from my capital and I would have taken a huge hit from distance fee. That motherfucker Pacal ALWAYS eclipses. He is always the one that always fucking wins holy shit

>>538813887
didn't mean to reply

>>538813887
you might just be bad, friend

>>538814246
I know I'm bad. I get too complacent when everything's going good all of my bad Civ 5 habits I formed still bleed into this. I end up playing tall because of it when this is a proper 4x game. Expansion and growth is the name of the game. I had a really good economy too. Time to play some real videogames instead

>>538814453
how many cities did you have? I don't know much about civ 4 but 59 worked tiles doesn't sound like a lot

>>538806804
I want to play it eventually, as part of going through the entire series.
Only did 1 and 4 so far
>>538813157
Is this on normal AI's? Just regular, randomly made maps?
I only knew simple meta strats at launch, game already changed a lot, mostly for the better, that I have no clue what's the best help early on

>>538814510
The land wasn't that great I made do with it. My mistake was not immediately prepping for war against Mongolia I got too complacent.

>>538816002
Yeah, be careful around Mongolians.

>>538538242
My last one took around 14 months (finished prematurely due to lack of interest)

Okay seriously how the piss do I fix this.
Can't add any more amenities buildings, can't afford to export pops elsewhere, can't export or purge them without tanking the economy, can't free them because they' instantly form a faction with happiness penalties that undoes every benefit of freeing them, and when the governor dies in a few years it'll permanently be at 100 Crime.

>>538818639
unless they changed it recently, housing buildings are better at giving amenities than holo-theatres

and just resettle the slaves somewhere, they probably have shit habitability

>>538819481
It's their own worlds.
And yes they already changed it. Lux gives 1500, Holo gives 2500.

Have most Stellaris mods updated?
If not, how long will it take?

>>538821298
>It's their own worlds.
in that case it's probably your own pops that have shit habitability. you can still resettle the slaves somewhere to reduce their impact

>>538818639
You play a xenophilic slaveless democracy like the bluehaired devs want you to

>>538823372
A whole ascension perk for alien cross-breeding, what were they thinking. Who is going to waste one of your few slots for something so degenerate?

>>538826365
Especially when you can get that stuff in with mods.

>it's raining
>buildings are still on fire anyway

>>538826365
I'd argue the real degenerate thing would be to keep fucking aliens despite crossbreeding being impossible.

I hope Stellaris goes all in with the anti-psionic stuff and gets a civic that lets you be genocidal but only against niggas that psionically ascend

>>538798442
And the world has no nigs and jews.
Thats the important part.

Lotus is strong, but I admit I prefer Serpent or Wolf when it's about setting things on fire.

>>538826909
Hmm. No condoms needed with aliens. You can't catch diseases from a rockgirl and she won't get pregnant.

>>538828203
A rockgirl, you said?

>>538828251
Sorry, I missed a word. A rockgirlrock.

>>538828375
Sorry anon, but now I imagine plowing that rock girl and making her walk with a limp.

>>538778542
>>538777513
I hate both of you.
>>538817016
>>538817016
Nice. Im still trying to reign my autism in to play first proper campaign..

>>538828757
>lustful void
>family oriented
>cheat mod
Despicable. Infidelity ruins lives.

>>538828951
I need to make sure i didnt leave some LL mod, would hate to start a new game without and then having to restart it.

Destined Destroyers is the best thing in AOW 4, love playing tall.

>>538817016
>tfw can never play Aurora long enough to meet and fight AI empires

>Aurora forums down again
Oh for fuck sake.

>>538828757
>cheats
>better cheats
>latex space elves
now this is kino

bump

bump

Oh hey /k/ is in Dominions

Is the boardgame Diplomacy considered /civ4xg/?

>>538862528
>boardgame
>>>/tg/

What
Why

>>538863930
Paradox. That's why.

>>538574758
Extremely late reply but they changed the AI at some point and modelled it around the things so-called "competitive" players were doing. Not sure how much of that splashed over to the campaign but I do recall the highest difficulty AIs becoming annoying and necessitating organized build orders based on the map you were playing.

Is there a point to using liberation wars? Won’t the ai just embrace one of their factions and basically negate the entire reason for going to war?

>>538868983
Pretty much. The point is taking a large part of their territory with colonies in it, because that part will become a new loyal vassal empire with your ethics to you if you status quo instead of achieving the war goal.

>>538868983
It's simpler then making a brand new vassal out of sectors and painstakingly gifting systems to it

>>538863930
You were told already, you're playing the "wrong" ideology and need to be punished for it.

>>538868983
Arent liberation wars about carving enemy empire into smaller states, liberating conquered species and shit?

>>538839432
Can't blame you, it took me years' worth of autism to get that far. Finding enemies to fight is probably going to become a lot easier in the new patch, with the multi-system NPRs and all.

>>538842889
I swear to god, never saw anyone else have this much trouble hosting a basic forum.

>>538880319
>I swear to god, never saw anyone else have this much trouble hosting a basic forum.
To be fair its purely fan shit supported with donations.
>tfw got banned from Aurora discord
Shame.

>>538863930
are you playing oppressive autocracy

Good night.

>>538897930
nn fren

>>538897930
Good night anon.

>>538898283
y'know, if hyperspace is so damn bright, surely you could harvest energy from it

>>538898436
Lightbulbs are bright, too. It should be possible to surround them with solar panels and use the collected energy to power other lightbulbs.

>>538538875
>>538817016
Thanks for the replies. Dang, Aurora's interested me for a while but my flavor of autism wouldn't be able to keep up for a single campaign that long.

>>538901258
Can try that other autistic game. Shadow Empire, I think?

>>538901080
Depends on how hyperspace works in a given series, I guess.
I was thinking it's more like pumping natural gas and oxygen into a turbine.
Except the supply of both is about as big as the universe, and there's no exhaust.

>>538902775
Getting into hyperspace usually seems to take a lot of energy in most settings. Maybe you could charge your batteries while you were in there.

>>538906503
Isn't it because space is condensed?

>>538906679
Probably have to narrow it down to one sci-fi setting for this.

>>538906503
Depends on a lot of things.
Maybe the cost is mostly the initial opening, maybe it's mostly for the actual high-speed travel, maybe it's how long it's open, maybe it's the size of the rift...
I could see something like this.
A solar panel station mostly in hyperspace collecting the intense light. (and possibly other electromagnetic energy)
A cable goes through a very small gate and connects it to a microwave antenna in realspace.

>>538910537
Isn't that more or less how the zero point modules worked in Stargate? Tapping energy from another universe and moving it to this one?

>>538910783
Yes, but also no.

>>538888236
Stratified. Also for some reason it was only the Enforcers who got that penalty, no other specialist or other job.
I did fix my issues by finally giving up and giving the species residence, raising up amenities and happiness enough to counteract the unhappy faggot factions for now. Lets me funnel out my main species pops to better worlds for them too. Though the enforcers thing was still an issue afterward until it suddenly magically disappeared.
>>538873035
>>538823372
Honestly hard to refute that, you have to put in so much micromanagement as slavers/authoritarians/warmongers and still be riddled with issues that opposite ethics never seem to have even when you overexpand/migrate.

live

>>538932145
I'm sick

bamp
fuck gacha

>>538937549
I'm still sick

Please. My son, he's very sick. I hear there is a cure on page 1, please help us.

Riddle me this, Sovietchads:
>most of the city grid is connected through a priority switch (set to high) to a coal power plant and a power plant incinerator (set to medium and high respectively)
>same priority switch is connected to the export foreign power connection set to LOW
>despite all this it will still prioritize exporting power even as the rest of the city's voltage plummets and brownouts strike everywhere
What's the fucking problem here?

bump

>>538960568
What's going on there?

>>538960745
9 Bits Armies allow most infantry to swim. It's not obvious how it works, but it's possible.
But it's a terrible idea: sharks are attracted to the smell of sweat, and fear.

>>538951754
Haven't played soviet simulator in a long while but are you certain the outputs are set up correctly?
Can't remember if the game labels the outputs or not.
I have a feeling it doesn't because I remember the game hates you.

>>538118126 (OP)
sauce

>>538963116
It does (when you hover over them), and I'm 100% certain.

Redpill me on Zephon. I am considering buying it at full price.

>>538966020
Please, wait for sale.
It's not terrible, but not really interesting enough to hold you for multiple playthroughs.

Made some progress in my Epic Large Archipelago on King difficulty. About 50 turns. Finally I've gotten my navy to a point where they're stationed and everything isn't so overwhelming, while also being at war with the Zulu

>>538958803
What game

>>538969990
Congrats.

>>538969990
Make sure you shoot them. A lot of people forget to do that, and it nearly winds up with an embarrassment.

wolf still sucks
they have no real frontline
evne berzerkers are weak to explosive and magic

bump

live you faggot

>>538983170
How does one learn aurora?

>>538994340
By practice desu.

bamp

This asshole missed my MARS and hit my dude Scott Sterling crouched behind the barrels, then after I had him use medkit and made MARS shoot a rocket, the asshole missed and hit him AGAIN, suppressing him.

>>539004367
Some people are just born with a natural attractive magnetic field.

>>539002159
The Kol is pure sex, advent and vasari just can't compete

>>539002159
I still think the giant turrets look goofy.
Still, looking forward to the DLC 11 days away.

>>539009217
Turrets are pretty big. Only makes sense that space turrets would be ever bigger.

>>539010450
Are the space turrets laser or kinetic? I could see a pure laser turret being smaller since you wouldn't need any mechanisms to load it or handle the recoil and you can have the power source in the hull.

aw man, reapers

>>539009217
Yeah it might be a bit oversized compared to the rest of the ship.

>>539010450
A laser one would probably have all that ammo space taken up by huge capacitors and heatsinks.

>>539014221
For >>539013410
fuggid

>>539010450
TEC uses railguns or coilguns, right? Then turrets could be a lot smaller because they only need the actual projectile and no giant bags of explosive propellants.

>>539013410
>>539014221
>>539015505
Yeah, TEC uses mainly solid ammo and missiles, Kol has nose mounted giant laser cannon, but the turrets I was talking about are coil guns.
They just look goofy to me, don't know what else to say about them.

>>538970115
Modded 6

>>539016496
I don't think they're any more silly than a giant gun as a spaceship or all the weird shit the advent get

>>539013569
Ah yes, "reapers"

>>539013569
Xenonauts.

>>539025317
Those to me don't look silly.
But for whatever reason, I just think the SoaSE 2 Kol is an aesthetic downgrade compared to the original.

Hey, no dying at 4 in the morning!

>>539037019
>at 4 in the morning
It's still the evening

>>539037019
it's 9 pm and I'm still sick

>can't catch that spy

>>539037019
It's only 3...

play startopia you cuck
but warrior kings battle is ok too

and apparently submarine titan is on gog, i have to check it out, a very nice bloke recommended it to me aeons ago

FUCKING DIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Do 4x games have to be tile based?
Are they better or worse if they use tiles instead of free form?

>>539052461
I think tiles are just easier to program.

>>539052572
Programming aside though.
Are there any civ-like 4x games that are freeform?

>>539047865
Grexolis is more of a clusterfuck than I remember, good god

>>539055713
It was fun until the end, had to be super aggressive and take cities from the enemy early. Got the cheevo.

>>539052572
I think it's more to do with how tileless maps support more tactical and less strategic gameplay but making it easier to code is certainly a factor (especially making the AI easier to code). You aren't really supposed to focus on precise positioning of your units in 4x rather on production and overwhelming the enemy with a superior tech or proper counter.
I'm sure there are games that don't have tiles (like Aurora) but they are going to be pretty niche for that reason. RTS or total war or I dunno table top wargame simulators probably cover that niche better.

>>539061953
Total War is probably the most popular "non-tile" 4x series.

>>539047865
No I don't think I will die thank you

>>539030512
>Those to me don't look silly.
Really? I have a bit of a hard time taking the giant angle spaceship serious
But yeah, the Sins 1 Kol is peerless for looks. I don't understand why they didn't port it 1:1 like they did for a lot of otther ships

>>538130894
This not only 4x general anyway. Strategy more in general, besides paradox map painters, because some anons get freak outs over that. But beyond that - strategy.

>>539063858
That's because it's not a 4x

>>539071590
I guess it's because the Kol turrets just seem sorta gangly, like they aren't properly attached to the hull.
Meanwhile the giant space gun doesn't offend me because it looks proportional.

>>539078979
Oversized guns like World of Warcraft pauldrons.

Oversized guns can be cool.

>>538951754
https://steamcommunity.com/app/784150/discussions/0/6895657216184384124/

Alright, I think it's just the game being broken
>july 2024
Jesus Christ

Free oxygen.

>>539087516
Oxygen ain't free.

>>539091182
Yes it is and it's almost farm time. No more greenhouse.

>>539091372
>windmills directly behind highrise buildings
This is highly offensive to my autism, cease this immediately.

>>539096284
Not that guy but the cityscape is auto generated by the game. You only build the transport infra (the rails and pallets of crates on the right) in this game. The city buildings just appear as your city grows when you bring stuff like food and water in.

Those fuckers on earth want my most precious product. What the hell man.

>>539096284
Depends on which way the wind comes from but cities just blob in this game once they have their inputs and outputs met.

They're holding my people hostage. wtf man.

>>539101327
Noooooooooooooo...

>>539103078
Who the fuck is opposing "Earth Organisation"? Aliens?

>>539104036
Earth got into a series of problems according to the opening text of the game. Think conflicts, runaway climate problems, etc. The colonization effort is meant as a plan b but once you start doing well they start demanding high quality products in exchange for seeds. At some point most of earth got united under the earth organization but not all of it as it seems.

>>539104873
Makes sense. Let's just hope this doesn't go the Gundam route.

>>539104963
Nah, they'll just go LoGH route.

>>539104963
Sieg Mars Zeon and their army of cloned telepathic lolis!

>>539109043
Cloned telepathic loli space elves...

>>539112005
Go on....

>>539112173
Nothing else, really. Just lot of spanking from the bored female crew. And the robotic nannies. The Gynoids.

>>539112398
>spanking loving nazi space elf lolis
Sounds like a nice Rimworld colony material.

>>539112604
Oh, they're nazis? Now I feel like I'm in the right in spanking them.

>>539080137
>look it up, Airships: Conquer the Skies
>creator says it's inspired by Cortex Command, Master of Orion, and Dwarf Fortress
From the trailers, it has a slightly... jank feel to it, but I assume it's much more playable than Cortex Command? Thanks for letting me know it exists.

>>539077120
Oh my bad, you're right it's grand strat lol.

>>539112005
>>539112398
>>539112693
I don't think these are the Mars Zeon.

>>539114957
no lol

>>539116986
alright it's whatever you think it is, faggot.

>>539104963
I dunno. We independent now.

Oh so as a retaliation the earthlings destroyed the upper end of the space elevator. Now I need to quickly build a biological research centre in one of my towns to produce seeds.

The cable is actually coming down.

>>539122037
That cable is going to wrap around the planet and do lots of damage. There's a book about this.

>>539121003
BASED

>>539116571
They're better.

>>539123520
Better start respecting Roko's cable then.

>>539122037
>>539123520
>Earth Organization chooses global suffering over letting some space elevator nerds be independent
Some real crabs in a bucket mentality, holy shit. What game is that anyway? It looks like there's a lot of passion behind it.

>>539122037
>More than 10+ high impact dinosaur killing meteors
>still trees

how...

Settings to make Stellaris fun again? It's really feeling like both a chore and a dull experience lately.
I'd move on to other games but none of them really do custom empires to the same degree

>>539123520
So it did. It almost wraped arround the planet destroying everything in its path. Luckily the damage wasn't too bad.

>>539134727
Plan B terraform, mostly developed by one guy I think. It's a bit openttd/factorio light, with some terraforming and fluid mechanics.

>>539135138
I'm terraforming the place, the impacts are from a looooong time ago.

>>539135536
Take a break, buddy.

>>539136610
The thin line arround the equator is the crash site of the cable. If it was longer it would have cut through my most important city.

>>539137684
I was going to say that's a bit silly but then the ISS is 400km away.

>>539138028
Doesn't a space elevator need to be in geostationary orbit?

>>539123520
>>539137684
I thought anon was joking, now I'm a bit interested in the game.

Terrorist?! What the hell man. The earthlings are the ones with weapons and they blew up the elevator.

>>539123520
>There's a book about this.
The Red/Blue/Green Mars trilogy? I remember I read a sci fi novel with a martian orbital elevator getting popped but I don't remember the exact novel.

>>539141189
Empires generally don't like it when subjects declare independence.

>>539141189
War. War never changes.

>>539141189
its how its done IRL
accept you're property or you're a terrorist

More games need race/faction creations.

>>539144329
Agreed.
It would be great to paly stellaris that wasn't shit. Imagine empires of your own creation fighting against each other.

>>539145312
That is the plan, I want to make a scenario where I'm a vampire lord against a bunch of humans fighting against me.

>>539144329
"But our STOOOORY! Think of our amazing original STOOOOORY!"
Much like Elder Scrolls, Stellaris sits on it's throne not on merit but a near complete lack of competition. and it itself keeps sliding into STORY mode more and more so who knows how long that'll last. Wouldn't be surprised if they made a Stellaris 2 and it tried to grab the Endless Space 2 audience instead of leaning in on what made Stellaris popular, and you know they won't nearly be on ES2's level.

>>539154390
ES2 just gets a lot right, so not many people can copy that.

>>538797327
if there are more harpy refs i can draw it shittily

>>539154390
Never played daggerfall, i wasnt born yet when it came out, but it looks kinda shitty even for old game? Does it really hold it?

Back at it again. Rolled a random civ and map got a really good colonization civ. I never play island maps and I don't know how to combat the maintenance fee, It will kill me if I start expanding on islands. I turned off vassal states so I can't make them into colonies. Please tell me I'm not the only civ4 fag on this general

>>539141495
Yeah Mars trilogy has that

>spend like 20 minutes trying to get 4chanx to work on the new chrome update
I gotta switch to firefox

>>539151952
>map settings gain more customization with each update
>custom factions grow more customizable too
>can now give any of your custom civs their own preset lists of city names, heroes to recruit, and tome paths to research in your preferred order
>can also determine if they get an advanced start with extra cities in your map creation
Outside of painting the map yourself by hand, I think AoW4 can do a decent job of that now

>>539138028
>>539138362
Space elevators (at least the conventional ones) have to have their center of mass above the geostationary (so practically the counterweight station has to be lot higher than that). A typical design has it going up to 3 times higher than geostationary (36 000km) such as 100 000km, for reference the circumference is only 40 000km. That being said only the part that has it's center of mass below the geostationary will actually fall down if the cable breaks, the rest will fly up and escape the gravity well or settle in new orbits. That could be almost all of it if it breaks just below the counterweight station or almost none of it if it breaks near the ground station. It should be noted that for Mars geostationary is lower than the circumference of the planet and same generally holds true for all smaller planets where an elevator is even possible with relatively little magic.
Basically the most likely problem spots either result in no cable hitting the ground or enough to wrap the planet several times (which it would due to the way the cable stays in tension essentially the entire time). Anywhere in between is possible due to things like meteor impacts on the cable or just random breakage as well.

>>539182234
>Mars geostationary is lower than the circumference of the planet
*higher than the circumference

>>539182234
Wait... Doesn't that turn the space elevator into a giant sling?

>>539182461
That's kinda the point

>>539103078
Game?

>>539186070
plan b terraform

>>539186070
Plan 9 from outer space.

>>539182461
Suddenly it sounds like a really bad idea.

...? Didn't peasants have gloves?

>>539196607
Why would they have gloves?

>>539196769
Dunno, I remember them having white sleeves and player-colored gloves.

>fire arrows use stamina now
Darn it. Fair, but still annoying.

>units now recover health and stamina while walking
Neat. That archer walking in front of everyone was yellow just now, he returned to green health.

>>539199660
Makes sense. Holding a flaming arrow in front of your face is going to make you sweat.

>>539199976
That does make sense, but still, it makes it a bit harder to set an enemy base on fire, and it means Raiders and Pitch Slinger are now a lot better.

The DLC units are kinda nice, but they are so easy to counter. I'm still not sure they're worth bothering with.
I still make a lot of guardians because I like them. They're cool.

FUCKING PILFERS
This is why I hate fighting Serpent.

>>539112398
spiderfag getting spanked by his gf, colorized

>>539210561
I wish I was this cute.

Which game has the best espionage, where I can be a real piece of shit and buy up industry, spread propaganda, assassinate key leaders, and fund fake revolutions?

>>539214426
I think Space Empires has pretty comprehensive array of spy crap.

>>539214426
I found espionage exceedingly fun, in Haegemonia, a space game.
Otherwise, there's SEVEN KINGDOMS 2, but you need high-level spies to be able to do all the weird crap.

>>538826986
Bombard their colonies with corn syrup

>>539172763
He meant Endless Space 2 but I'll bite. The game was damn good, just so different from how RPGs are done that people have a hard time grasping how to even play. And it was probably too ambitious for the tech level and team scale leading to weird or repetitive design elements, and by the time those were upped the series had retreated into being a theme park esc game that loses features from game to game.
Everyone that "gets" it generally loves it, and it's nice to see younger gens appreciating it.

>vulnerable to no damage
HUH?

>>538118126 (OP)
Any more obscure releases upcoming this Fall? Or something I missed this Summer?

is Stellaris 4.0 functional yet?

>>539226348
It doesn't matter.
Next update and DLC is just couple of weeks away.

Huh. AI saved up the entire game to make this.
Literally nothing else.

>>539226409
I want to get off Stockholm's Wild Ride

>>539229072
Correction, it's 6 days away.

4x games just getting too long and drawn out for me. quicker 4x games (or at least turn-based strategy) you guys like? I have been really loving Through the Ages (digital board game version) lately

>>539231590
Ozymandias is a historical themed 4x game that is made to be finished in one sitting, 1 or 2 hours. There's also Nexus 5x, a stellaris spin off that is also a 4x that can be finished in a couple of hours.

>>539232643
>Nexus 5x
what's the fifth x?

>>539233104
Sex.

>>539233104
It stands for 5x

>>539233104
I dunno man. Marketing?

>literally just started
>already ratmen champions
Are you insane?

>>539233104
Exit.

>>539235217
holy shit it's Majesty. Love that freaking game.

>>539235217
>Mausoleum
Is that the next level of graveyard (if so, then holy fuck, your heroes are dropping like flies) or the temple for necromancers?

>>539182461
>>539194430
wait until you learn about Skyhooks
those are literally just flying slings

>>539248181
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>539248181
>>539250234
How are they supposed to reboost to not loose speed with the whole slinging+atmospheric frcition?