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Previous thread: >>537852619

That's what you get for not being a good person

Thanquol soon, friends!

my challenge?

>general actually died for a moment
Taste of freedom...

>>538175553
Deniable
>Flees

>>538176014
norscabros.....

>>538175691
and yet you came back

>>538176647
Never left to begin with, ESL anon.

Sup. How were the TK and Lizardman updates? Anything worth starting a campaign for? Right now I'm othergaming but I'd go for a quick campaign as them before the KCD2 dlc comes out and the string of games I'm looking forward to this Autumn begins.

Oh no bros, I walked into an ambush!

>>538178896
Cinematic view for my impending doom.

>>538178896
you cannot deny his challenge any longer

>>538179135
Wulfrikbros what the fuck happened...
Ambush was truly wasted on such a tiny army, and the main army + settlement being reinforcements like 2 minutes later.

the future of total warhammer is near

>make detailed harbour areas
>can't do naval invasions in those like you could in Rome 2
it's like they're mocking us

>>538179409
my challenge..... no....

>>538176995
dont call me that

>>538179663
Dechala where is the petition to save it

>>538179663
good

>>538179735
Im afraid the technology for this was lost in a fire at CA hq many years ago

>>538175385
kino

Only this guy remained from his unit.

bro what

>>538179735
>can't do naval invasions in those like you could in Rome 2
To be fair those were fucking shit
Maneuvering boats into landing at the extremely limited beach spaces within the walls while being blocked by the empty boats leaving was a fucking nightmare

>>538182830
>turn 76
>still not conquered Nehekhara
ngmi

>>538183187
I got distracted. Was trying to keep the lizards alive from their own stupidity, but now might have to make peace with wuzzag and turn around.

>>538183773
Ligger ai is broken, why do you even bother? It's why I'm waiting for a hotfix.

Archaon charging with Swords of Chaos + their ability is great. Massive speed, and much more speed during charge. Archaon's able to immediately go to the target unhindered while the Knights clear way. People rag on the Swords of Chaos but I think they're actually good, they're consistently getting great value, and much more than other Knights. They are however much more of a 'glass cannon' of sorts compared to all other types of Knights. I find they die/get damaged much easier, but deal much more damage. Need more management than even lances.

>>538175553
>>538176014
So he's getting a rampage ability like Skarbrand in the DLC yeah?

>>538184502
Oh is it? Well fuck, no wonder they got wiped out so easily.

>No posts in nearly 30 minutes
Not gonna lie the state of this general is grave.

>>538184781
>People rag on the Swords of Chaos
They do? Where? I don't see anyone talking about them usually.

>>538187526
Good thing 4channel hid the IPs

>>538187731
>>538184781
Did they get buffed? In WH2 they're pretty shit

>>538187526
grim, even
no wait...

>>538187731
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/536695824/#536713205
I do agree they should be more like mounted aspirings to a degree.

>>538188717
Ah okay.
I do think they're a little lakcluster though but primarily from small model count.
They don't have the sheer mass that Ogre Cavalry have which is what allows Ogre Cag to not suck shit.

>>538188865
>They are towering brutes atop immensely powerful Chaos Steeds, rider and mount clad in thickest plate, each section of armour crafted by a master Daemonsmith.
More mass would be fitting.

>>538187526
I have like 2k hours across Total Warhammer games and simply had enough of it. No updates/dlcs CA creates, make want to play TWW anymore. I'm just not in a mood for it anymore at all. Tried to play few campaigns recently, but got bored. Their shitty updates breaking my modlist time and time again annoys me greatly and a prospect of rebuilding it every time I want to play even further dissuades me from starting next campaigns.
The only other TW I like is Med2 which I already played for a similar amount of time before I got steam version even. I hate antiquity and don't care for their diversity quotas 3k and soigun titles

I used to be an active poster here, but I haven't posted here regularly in like 2 years. I assume that many others feel similar. New Total War titles are needed.
Announce 40k and Med3 already for fucks sake.

>>538189974
Sadly I don't think there's any evidence for Med 3 other than a bunch of fans thinking it would be a good idea

>>538175329 (OP)
"Should assjobs from hot female vampires be mandatory?" - Friendly Fire Edition

>>538175329 (OP)
So I went insane and purchased all 3 games with all of their DLCs.
My question is, I would like to play every game in order at least once, and try every race in their debut game at least for one or two campaigns.
Am I doing a terrible mistake or what?
I love Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and I am still sad I pawned off my dwarf squares years ago.

>>538192419
There is no point to this. TWW3 has everything previous games have, save for 2 minicampaigns, and then improvement and new content to boot.

>>538192419
Get into the game with WH3 first, then once you get the hang of it dip back into the old ones to see what was different.
I would probably have bought some models by now if they hadn't pulled that end times shit. It's like if they rebooted 40k right before DoW came out.

>>538192419
I would say at this point... there is no reason to play Warhammer I. The Warhammer II Vortex campaign has a lot of story content that isn't in Warhammer III. Warhammer III has the huge 'grand campaign' Immortal Empires that most people play, and its own story campaign (Realm of Chaos).

reminder that if you can only win by corner camping and abusing the ai you didn't really beat the game and should lower difficulty until you're able to win without cheating.

>>538193475
True and real

reminder that if you fight battles manually you are cheating because it gives you an unfair advantage over the ai.

>>538193475
and you're the guy who points skill points into Lightning Strike. Try playing the game for real, my dude.

Could a Slann ever become twisted and enter the service of Chaos?

>>538192916
>>538192919
>>538193235
So you're saying I just wasted all of my money and TWW3 is the way to go?

>>538195115
No, you need Warhammer 1+2 to play the core races featured in those games in Warhammer 3

>>538195252
Oh ok, thats nice. Thanks.

>>538195115
Those games are WH3 dlc

>>538195115
No. You need all of them anyway. Just like you needed Dark Crusade to use Tau and Necrons in Soulstorm. Or how you need Hitman 1 missions to play them in Hitman 3. Without TWW1 you wouldn't be able to play as Karl Franz, Gelt, Thorgrim, Ungrim, White Dwarf, Vlad and his wife, Kemmler, Manfred etc

>>538192419
Many would probably disagree with me, but I would actually say that WH2 is worth playing a couple times for the Vortex campaign, which is very different from the map in WH3. Basically a lot of the lands the west (not-Atlantis, not-Africa, not-South America, not-North America) are very squished and kinda underwhelming. Its wroth trying out.
But if you want to play anything in the old world, yeah, 3 is the best choice.

>>538194985
I don't know about slann because they don't spawn new ones if I'm not mistaken, but there is literally nothing in the lore that would prevent a chaos cult from refitting a captured spawn pool somewhere out there in the jungles to make chaos lizardmen
they can't be corrupted the normal way because they don't have souls

>>538192419
>So I went insane and purchased all 3 games with all of their DLCs.
please please please tell me you at least purchased it through a keysite...

Slann are math NERDS and too beta to have desires so chaos hate them

>>538195115
>>538195460
cute rats

>>538194985
They cant be corrupted but they can be manipulated. Take a look at Mazdamundi for example, hes extremely racist and aggressive to everything in Lustria that isnt an Old Ones creation, exhibiting things like willing to genocide to keep Lustria from being changed and always dealing with magic. That doesnt mean he cant be manipulated but the race as a whole technically has no emotions, so its not like temptation is an issue in the first place and Khorne would have taken advantage of his seeming bloodlust for anything not meant to be in Lustria according to The Great Plan and Tzeentch would have tempted him through how close he is to magic.

>>538197075
To add onto this further, Oxyotl was trapped in the Realms of Chaos for 7000 years and came out unscathed, even managing to kill a Great Unclean One with poison which should be impossible

>>538183186
you just have to micro a bit and beach landings in enemy cities can go off without a hitch and can be very fun and satisfying

I finally got total warhammer 3, just finished empire campaign on very hard and I gotta say out of all the three games I enjoy this version the least. The map just looks like shit and theres too much random garbage around, not comfy at all. Stress inducing slop, the ui looks like shit too , why isnt there a fucking quest tab like in 2

>>538183186
>>538197971
in my one experience with boats in the historical battle, the ai tried docking 2 in the same spot and it lost them the battle by denying them reinforcements
seems cool though, and like it could be useful when used properly

>>538192419
I feel you, I really wanna play 1 and 2 again but now that 3 is out it feels like the wrong idea, despite 3 being garbage in a lot of ways

>just had the most frantic siege defense on shogun 2 fots
>as soon as the final enemy routes game crashes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>538199525
>The map just looks like shit
If we're talking the continents/provinces, I agree, but graphically I think its better.
>UI looks like shit
Sadly this started in 2, the diplomacy screen in 2 and 3 for example is just absolute garbage

>>538200269
Good thing being on the defensive side the game heavily favors you so you can do it all over again!

>>538200269
desu since you beat it there is 0 shame in replaying again and again until you beat it
annoying af i know but there is that

>Mannfred tried to invade The Empire during Storms of Chaos when it was at its alltime weakest to become Emperor
>Volkimar met him on the battlefield, delivering a speech declaring that just like 500 years ago, Volkimar, a normal man, would be the end of Mannfred again
>Mannfred got PTSD and ran away like a sissy and coward
Kek

How do I stop getting got by flamers, they wreck my infantry

>>538200967
This is after all the same guy that got beaten by some literal who stirland elector count
absolute state of m*nnfred

The Everchosen calls, do you answer?

>>538201329
LEMME THINK ABOUT IT
NO!

a completely aids fight

>>538175329 (OP)
whats the faction in all of tww with the most dakka?

>>538201584
chorfs

>>538201668
those terms are acceptable
praise hashut

I want to mating press Drycha into submission and turn her pro-Athel Loren

>>538201329
Yes... but not how he'd like me to.

elspeth feet

>>538202172
based

>>538201329
I do. With a fireball to the face. Shartaon the Evercuck. Have at it.

>>538195115
No, as others as have said it's pretty much DLC for WH3.
Only reason to go back is to play the races pre-rework or try the smaller campaigns they have. To CA's credit pretty much every race is better after their rework.

>>538202642
Your challenge? Deniable.

>>538201329
Beastman here, I've been working all this time. What the FUCK took you so long no-horn

>>538204730
He was hesitant to invite you, the chorfs were afraid you would have an seizure if you saw their machines

>>538205456
Chorfs and their old-one derived orderliness are a stain upon chaos. I would smash their machines, their industry, and their spires if I could. Raa-roo hep me, I would bury them in the mines they so covet. Chaos Fayosh.

holy shit what are the point of buildings

>>538206226
Coast are this weird thing where it's actually a horde faction but you still get to build up provinces if you want to. It's not optimal or particularly beneficial, but you can if you want.
If it has one of the special settlements it's worth developing, otherwise you build the T1 eco building in the capital (if that) and move on.

>>538206494
What I usually do is conquer islands only. Feels thematic. Of course, as Harkon you also kinda have to secure the Vampire Coast, but it's not too difficult when you get the full province with garrisons and full corruption.

>male consort
Either my new general is a faggot or the late Tausret was cheating on me... maybe even both... I'm not feeling so good bros...

>>538205938
based and primalpilled

>>538206494
>It's not optimal or particularly beneficial
nah man i wouldn't have been able to win my cylostra campaign if I hadn't mostly just taken land and eliminated enemies outright instead of letting them rebuild
really wish there were proper pirates

>>538175329 (OP)
Do any of the Dragon siblings like each other?

>>538209551
it's fucking retarded that you can't practically eliminate a faction just by killing all their armies and razing all their settlements unless you have some campaign mechanic like corn or beastmen to stop them from cockroaching.

Just finished an Epidemius campaign.
Who should I play next?

>>538204517
wulfricbros.. we're a joke..

>>538210059
Considering they've gone to war against eachother in the past I would say probably not.

>>538210059
I imagine if any two of them have any chance of being genuine friends, it'd be Zhao and Yin-Yin. Both are kind of the silly looners of the siblings, and their provinces aren't in direct contact to create any border friction or conflicts of interests.

>>538212320
a family that plays together stays together~

>>538194985
>Could a Slann ever become twisted and enter the service of Chaos?
Yeah, they're called the Lords of Change.
>Mad of being fat
>Become sexy, lithe, dinoman bird

>>538209551
Yeah you often have to to stop the enemy from taking it but it hardly does anything for your faction
Also fatghost is the exception since she doesn't get a special province/settlement as her start

>>538211128
not when I need the AI kislev to hold the fucking north for at least 50 turns you're not

supple servants of slaanesh

The Lizardmen's should honestly be amazing. It increases public order, decreases corruption, increases post-battle loot faction wide AND is an advanced recruitment building to boot!

Shame, then, that it only recruits trash.

>>538217134
*Lizardmen's Cult of Sotek building chain

>>538217134
ancient salamanders are good
dread saurians are good
salamanders are powercrept by razordons

>>538201476
You can't afford to fight rats without lots of fast anti-infantry

>>538217319
I can't think of anything recruited by the Cult of Sotek building chain that isn't outclassed by something in the Great Beasts building chain. And typically there's only room for one or the other. I usually just build Cult of Sotek buildings in provinces I don't actually plan on recruiting in for the global post-battle loot.

With this army I could conquer the world of Warhammer Fantasy.

>>538217732
Dread saurians are better than people make them out to be when microed right, but it is true that they lack the versatility you get from the beasts chain. And ancient salamanders aren't as good in melee as the other ranged dinos but they work better as artillery imo because of the firing arc and explosion damage and high speed, plus if you want to you can combine them with solar engines or something but I prefer to just group a few ancient salamanders together

>>538218573
>imo because of the firing arc
I've got a blessed one and it seems to just shoot a though a unit into the air, not had much luck with it. My salamander packs have been getting way more value usually, i'm pretty happy with them.

total war has taught me that war is basically just about making sure your people are standing in the right spot at the right time.

>>538219912
and to have proper line of sight when casting fireballs

it's like turn 50 and somehow mazdamundi hasn't wiped out all of his starting enemies what going on

>>538220898
The rework broke ligger major faction AI so they just sit in their settlement with their starting army, don't recruit, build anything, etc.

>>538220898
>>538222301
>Ligger update
>AI legendary lords are now braindead
>Your standard army is now an Oldblood with a Saurus stack
>You level your lords and heroes up by fighting dark elves
>Blessed spawnings is now about saving up for the Blessed Ancient Stegadon

>>538218406
>Epirus
nah they'd somehow find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

>>538220898
Lizard brains broke, they just afk with their starting army. I found this out the hard way.

>>538210059
they all love Shen-Zoo, love her enough to work together

>>538224848
lmao Miao is a womanlet hahahahaha

>>538224545
You might be right actually. I told my marines to disembark but instead they sailed to the edge of the map, jumped into the water, and proceeded to drown themselves to the last man

1-3 I pick Mazdamundi
4-6 I pick Nakai
7-9 I pick Oxyotl
0 I uninstall WH3 and finally give Rome 1 a try

Are all the Lizardmen mods updated for the rework? Lost Calm, Lustria Rises, Geomantic web overhaul?

>>538225897
Jurassic normal is green on my mod page, I don't have the others. The only thing I know for sure is lizard AI is borked right now. They just AFK until somebody comes by and kills them.

Another lost Rome 2 technology: the enemy sallying out during sieges. Of course it didn't work very well for these guys, but it's the effort that counts

And I mean it REALLY didn't work out for them

>>538225551
>first fight as Mazdamundi
>seduced by Saurus Warrior
Thats gay

>>538213625
I really needed the money though to maintain my armies
how do you do it?

Why do tomb king snakes suck so much

This man brought his 3 wives to battle to protect him

>I will never be a thorax swordsman
why even live

>>538229845
They're great just not for noobs. No I won't explain as I already did like a week ago on here.

>>538229845
Necropolis knights? Damage wise they are good but pretty slow for a cavalry

I love the lines with the Sisters when you craft Daith items, like giving a child a toy and the other one complains they didnt get one too

>>538233370
Daith wastes his talents on a pacifist.

Could the WH3 engine handle pike mechanics?

>>538233996
>Why grant Naestra tools of war?

If the shitty AI knows how to use Waaagh mechanics effectively, hence why greenskins are so strong every campaign, why can't it use mechanics such as bloodhosts ?

>>538236474
The devs at the time of waaagh were probably stronger than the devs who worked on bloodhosts. Wouldn't surprise me considering how the mechanics of then (waaagh) are much better overall than now (bloodhost).

Pure as starlight:)

LEWD THE SISTERS IMMEDIATELY

DO NOT LEWD THE SISTERS

>>538235768
I don't think rome 2 did either considering your troops died in a second coming into contact with it

>>538229845
Necropolis knights? They fucking slap what are you on?
Stalkers are a little awkward because they need to get some spitting time to be at their full potential but even a couple volleys and some stabbing on cavalry is good value

Why is the game such a fucking piece of shit with line of sight? Whenever there's the slighest inconvinience the whole squad stops moving or shooting. It barely matters if you shoot from afar

>>538246489
That's only one thing of a long laundry list of problems, my dude

https://www.youtube.com/live/dmaGad0jpe0?t=738

>>538246575
why does he look like a WWII propaganda

Drukhari should be the day 1 DLC, it would be a shame for all those guardsmen slaves to be wasted.

>>538227965
uuhh thats kind of gay

>>538249243
>AI slop

>>538249243
cope
guardsquires are for eldar banshees only

>>538250934
Giving yourself a (You) is really sad

>>538242076
>>538243058
Which sisters?

>>538206226
>>538206494
Surprise surprise, the pirate faction has to actually do pirating to earn money, instead of building empires with infrastructure

>>538249243
Unlikely. I'm not even sure Imperial Guard will be in the base first game.

One day, the DLC will come out
One day I will reinstall

>>538246614
Edge la edge

My mod list is reaching perfection

>>538225551
>>538226693
Mazdamundi campaign is going great so far, didnt expect to make this much progress but ive made my way to Skulltaker, revived Gor-Rok who died to him and Ive basically cornered the last of his army in Harkons area, also Skrolks about to declare war on me I can feel it. Rn I have a NAP with Rakarth while I finish off Skulltaker then eventually go to war with the Skaven. When are they making Saurus Warriors and the building related to it a T1 building? Its really dumb how I need a T3 settlement to field shielded Saurus Warriors and Temple Guards feel really lackluster for being a supposed T4. Its pretty disappointing given Im playing Mazdamundi only to see that Temple Guards are actually worse than Saurus Warriors with shields when you have all the tech tree + red line buffs. Kroxigors are fun, albeit surprisingly squishy, youd think theyd be tankier given theyre huge fucking crocodiles but they get the job done. been using this as my second army to deal wirh Skulltaker and having a blast especially since this Kroxigor general has cunning so hes tankier and can hold the line incredibly well. I was also using Red Crested Skinks and they seem fun too albeit way less tanky and meant for flanking. >>538227965
Meant to say they seduced my Saurus Warriors, I hate liggers fans

>>538255672
>all those people still doing that exclamation point shit in the name
So much old, useless, and misinformation with modding.

>>538255672
kek I truly don't understand people like you

>>538255838
Yeah god forbid I want the game to be interesting and fixed instead of playing CA vanilla. Let me guess you actually play med 2 vanilla as well, right?

>>538255838
vanilla is literal dogshit tho
good on anon for getting a better experience

>>538255838
you are a cattle

>playing Tlaqua in Mortal Empires
>must destroy Pirates of Sartosa, Clan Mors, Followers of Nagash, and The Bloody Handz
>under 20 turns in and The Bloody Handz are already gone
>probably confederated by another Greenskin faction
What's a good Lizardman army composition to deal with the Sartosans? I think they'll be the biggest challenge.

>>538257185
just run at them
coast are jobbers

>>538257185
As long as you can outrun their ranged units then you're fine. Bring cavalry or salamanders if it is that big of a concern.

>>538257185
>Ligger AKA handholddeluxe wondering how to deal with Coast AKA NPC walk-over faction

>>538255838
you know how low IQ brown people smother all their food in 1 billion different spices because they have a completely unrefined palette?

the concept of less is more escapes them

>>538257185
Coast are literally the single worst faction in the game, both in-battle and on the campaign map. They won't be an issue.

IT'S 5 AM AND I KEEP CLICKING ONE MORE TURN

the 4 thousand nation face off.

>LOOK AT IT XENO, LOOK
>*fearful screeches and whimpers*
>LOOK UPON THE TCAL XENO, THEY WILL ENCAPSULATE YOUR VILE RACE INTO THEIR VIRTUAL CACOPHONY OF BUTCHERED ATTEMPTS AT IMITATING CODEX TACTICS WITHIN THE NEXT CYCLE
>*loud screeching*
>YOU WILL BE BOUGHT BY THE MASSES LIKE A CHEAP IDOL, YOU WILL BE BUTCHERED BY THE MULTIPLAYER INQUSITIORIAL CONCUIL AND RESHAPED COUNTLESS TIMES
>*even louder screeching and thrashing*
>YOU WILL BE OWNED BY PAYPIGIES ANDYOU WILL BE HAPPY XENO
>SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I know she is holding a staff but with how off-center her portrait is it looks like she is winding up a punch.

>>538258457
Call me...witch?!

>>538258275
hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, reddit is two blocks down

YOU CAN TELL ME THAT THERE'S NOBODY HELF

ZOG ROIGHT OFF!

>>538259174
LEMME THINK ABOUT IT
NO

>>538258603
kek

GUTS OUT BOYS

>>538257942
>This coming from a Wigger whose food is always loaded with sugar and corn syrup.

>>538258275
I laughed

Any word on the import of Total War Warhammer 2's Amazon mod to Total War Warhammer 3?

>>538260187
"soon"

>>538258275
>YOU WILL BE BUTCHERED BY THE MULTIPLAYER INQUSITIORIAL CONCUIL AND RESHAPED COUNTLESS TIMES
This is very Tyranidpilled however

>>538260187
The only Amazons for WH3 are in the Beastmen/Goblin rape mods iirc

BEARDS IN BELTS
SHOULDER AXES LADS

>>538258275
Saved

>>538192419
I'm gonna tell you the exact opposite of what everyone said: it's worth it.
If you really care about how the individual armies have changed over the years, if you care on the evolution of the battle maps and the world map, then yeah start with TWW1 and climb up, while also making sure to play the newest factions every time you play a new title.
Immortal Empires is not that good,
the modded TOW campaign is better.
Just remember, some factions have been reworked so much you might have to re-learn some of their unit comps and tech trees.
The Empire first of them all.

>>538261525
>tow campaign
The map is ugly as shit, though.

>>538192419
WH1 is definitely worth playing because you can only get that old world feel from there (or mods). The end-game crisis in WH1 is so far unsurpassed. And also just the opportunity to experience some of the factions in their pre-powercreep stage is worth it (for example Vampire Counts).
WH2 is also worth it. The Vortex map is actually a really fun map to play on (the main Vortex quest sucks though but you can ignore it and some factions don't even engage in the Vortex quest such as Vampire Coast).
WH2 is buggy though. One of the most game-breaking bugs is that AI Tomb Kings factions will inexplicably stop recruiting armies so they suddenly become punching bags, even Settra's faction which can completely take the fun out of a campaign if you're playing something like Repanse.

>>538262061
>The end-game crisis in WH1 is so far unsurpassed
make sure to use https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691279367
to avoid turning your campaign into a roguelike.

Tzeentchfags on suicide watch

>slayer lord/hero
>reach level 20
>get immortal trait
???

>>538263269
HAHA! My name led you to believe I was unkillable. But by killing me you have discovered you were decieved all along!

>>538263431
>dies
>rename when he comes back
If you don't do this just uninstall

>>538192419
>>538262061
This. WH1 is still worth playing. Lightning-fast turn times and best overarching campaign. You have clear early-, mid- and endgame (consolidate, take out the mid-big-bad like Vcounts for Empire, then prepare for endgame), every major Lord gets tons of quest battles and there's sense in making alliances instead of just blobbing (since you cant occupy mountainous climate as humans and vice versa). WH1 also still has balance more akin to tabletops: Armor-piercing is rare so armored units are very valuable and more difficult to stop, theres asymmetric balance instead of nearly everyone getting ranged ap + elite infantry + couple SEMs, and the mini-campaign that comes with WH1 (Athel-Loren expanded) is great fun. Of course WH3 is superior in many other ways, but there are still some things that are unique to WH1 that make it worth playing.

>>538263715
He didnt die, he was only wounded!!

sigmas will

whats longma

>>538264530
Longma(ssive cock)

>>538262061
>>538263749
didn't wh1 have that problem of agents being able to assassinate lords

>>538264036
No he died an honourable death

>>538264890
>didn't wh1 have that problem of agents being able to assassinate lords
Yes and not only that there's no immortality skill point for generic lords. On the flipside this gives purpose to specialized assassin heroes and bodyguard retinue. I always run with as many banshees as I can recruit and have them assassinate all enemy heroes that have the assassinate hero action (the wound hero action can't perma your generic lords).

>>538260187
Made for Saurus cock

>mourngul haunter and gunnery wight hero capacity from undercities
>vampire captain capacity from T5 ports
what the hell is this faction

>>538267462
One of the many things where the deeper I get into a Coast campaign, the more I have the urge to drop it. Always liked Coast, but damn they have a lot of issues. Serious identity crisis.

>>538267462
After tk rework and norsca rework soon vampirates are probably the most obsolete faction in the game. They better fucking give them some love when Neferata's tatas arrive.

>>538267462
They're the worst one now that Kangs got buffed, and even then I think pre-rework Kangs were still stronger than the Coast by turn 25. Nothing works right. Treasure maps are shit, undercities are shit, settlements are shit, heroes are shit and you can't get enough caps, lords are average, coastal setllements are ok but compete with pirate undercities, techs are mostly shit, upgrading your settlements doesn't help. They're still stuck in WH2 where they still were the worst. If they want you to be a fighter and depend on it for finance, they should give Coast a +post battle/loot/sack income thing on their buildings like Greenskins and Khorne.

>>538265425
immortality was one of the biggest improvements in wh2, and I don't remember when they toned back the ai agent spam but it was a fucking nightmare in wh1 and it made me rage quit so many times
there's a lot of things you can say wh1 did better but assassinations are not one of them

>play nkari
>go to siege
>close defeat
>shit out a disciple army
>crushing defeat

>>538268280
Many Slaanesh troops are squishy and can't stand up to missile fire or frontal fights, you need to micro and flank a lot

>play nkari wanting to AR
Weebposter BEGONE.
Also you can AR spam as them but this requires playing past turn 5 and AR spammers can't into manual for a few battles.

>>538266238
I hope Niels is doing well

>>538268280
>Start campaign
>Beginning battle
>AR gives me close victory no unit losses
>Embed hero
>Close victory but lose a unit

>>538235768
anon the wh3 engine is the rome2 engine just jury rigged by incompetent retards trying to mimic what someone slightly less incompetent made over 10 years ago

ITS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z18XPcfD2vE

>>538266238
I hope Niels is in pain.

>>538267462
>>538267583
>>538267721
>>538267783
ok genuinely one of the worst campaigns i have played but it got better once i built a necrofex stack like noctilus campaign effects keep pushing towards
annoying on not being able to attack from sea but i wonder if the tcaluk came up with a ghetto workaround by giving you extra campaign movement on war declaration missions
still haven't touched kangs, slaanesh or daniel yet, any recommendations

It's over...

>>538271816
>Slaanesh
Just wait roughly a month and you will have a reworked Slaanesh with better mechanics and more options. No point doing it right now I'd say
>Daniel
Not very worth playing. Mods don't really fix it, they overdo him and he feels like a cheatmod character. He has to be fixed by CA, I don't think modders can do it right.

>>538272014
has been over since the shadows of change fiasco desu

>>538272127
>Just wait roughly a month and you will have a reworked Slaanesh
lmao

>>538255805
its to have their mod at the top nigger its not some voodoo magic shit

>>538272231
it was over long before then, that's just when people started to notice

>>538273452
I make mods, I know about mod order. Adding a bunch of dumb shit to it is unnecessary and assumes it needs to be higher than some mods. How can they tell? You can't. You use one exclamation point, oh no faggot uses two look out! It's impressive you couldn't think about how redundant it is. It's up to the users to manually order their mods (as they do anyways, further increasing my point).

>>538273638
i make mods too and that is literally the only reason people do the exclamation mark shit
>It's up to the users to manually order their mods
you underestimate the laziness of players

slaanybros.. the autoresolve..

Why are all the victory cheevies in Pharaoh Ultimate? Imo should be the long campaign

>>538275398
yeah as much as I love Pharaoh I'm not playing to an Ultimate victory for every minor faction. The achievement for finishing a campaign in prosperity works on short, at least

>>538261858
>The map is ugly as shit
IE looks even worse, it comes with the game.

>>538276574
And I can't find any cheats to make it long only

Question:
Is it fair to corner camp in this place?

>>538261858
means nothing
gameplay is king

>>538281261
Yes. Sounds like a proper usage of environment instead of arbitrary invisible walls

>>538281261
any real commander would want to prevent himself from being flanked

corner camping is cheating btw

>>538281261
you have 4 heroes so its not like the enemy can do anything anyway

>>538281939
They aren't high level and don't have broken gear.

>hero-stacking corner-camping k*slev faggot
yawn. too obvious.

>>538281815
The AI cheats, why shouldn't I?

Not using lancers as kislev is gross

>>538284768
Boris has them.

Fighting a battle with a full 20 units is cheating

Here's your Med3
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3440120/_Knights_of_the_Crusades/

>>538285332
I like when shitters cope like this, they did it a lot with Elden Ring
>oh OH you're saying I didn't beat Malenia because I used mimic tear and RoB and magic??
>W-WELL I BET YOU THINK MOVING AND USING ANY WEAPON IS CHEATING TOO HUH

>>538285351
>st. george's cross
Chud game

>>538285623
you should see those souls games challenge run communities especially the no hit (tm) "people"
they have the weirdest most arbitrary rules along with new titles like "world first beating the game while wanking"

>>538285803
Yes but they're adding those arbitrary rules
Not cheesing with stealth magic that Malenia doesn't dodge isn't arbitrary

>>538285623
>He hasnt done a no moving no weapon elden ring run
Sad!

>>538286043
if the devs don't patch it out, it's intended

>>538285623
That anon is clearly in jest. And,
>Elden Ring
No. FROM post-DS1 is a meme and only got worse, ER in particular has the ugliest bossing in all vidya.

So what faction makes you want to keep playing past turn 60 when you have snowballed hard? Is there a single one?

>>538286664
Now that I think about I can only recall one I felt truly engaged and compelled to finish and it was the Welves, in particular Sisters or Drycha.
Their campaign mechanics are easy and dynamic with the teleport, easy but fun, no blobbing, no suffering if you lose one shitty settlement, just retaking the trees. Even tho their roster is kinda boring I just kept and kept playing until the end without "forcing myself".

>>538286464
Yes, to decrease the difficulty
Setting WH3 to easy/easy isn't cheating but it's very boring and unfulfilling

>>538285351
>released yesterday
>already at a discount
explain this medieval chuds

>>538287248
Welves have the best campaign by far and people HATED IT back then, it was always the absolute best campaign hands down.

>>538271816
are boat giants actually good in campaign? this video makes them look like total garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmmEK05JsY

>>538192916
One thing the first game had over the later games is a more detailed in game wiki, it was about as good as the one you'd see in older titles like shogun 2.

>>538288104
>quad bloated
Trolling build

>>538286664
Still or ever? If ever, many. Or rather, most factions/races I've played beyond 60. Extra-restrictive campaigns can be good for this.

>>538288104
they are pretty good in campaign
biggest issue in campaign is good maps, you need good line of sight
you also need vampire lore to heal and gunnery wright to restore ammo to really support them

will there be any news this week?

>>538289023
hmm
nyo

>>538288992
also they are surprisingly not very good in melee so that's another thing

>>538289098
:(

>>538286664
no and actually its around 30 turns

>Sure looks like shit down there
I wonder how soldiers decided who got the good job back in the day and who ended up vanguard in the moshpit.

HELLOOOOO????
TIDES OF TORMENT?????

Is it ever worth making somebody a vassal?

>>538289023
There may be hotfix, or not.

>>538291686
Your commander told your officer who told your sergeant who told you. Same as today.

>>538292451
well they will be good at sitting around and guarding their castle. and vassalizing strong lls is funny

>>538292713
>But the noobs in front
>Put the veterans behind
A rock solid strategy since time began, and sadly with TW's single entity prevalence not enough people get around to learning this is a very viable strategy with infantry as well.

dooky bros...
damn i love when I have a great army for this kind of map
took a lot of casualties on my greatswords but eh worth it

>>538288992
do they get better stats or abilities or something? in mp they are basically just cannons that can walk around and miss half of their shots while getting shot to death.

Rikard von Kludburgh had seen horrors... horrors beyond the worst nightmares of a superstitious peasant or the unspeakable horrors he would speak of in his fiery sermons to his devoted Flaggelants....

he had seen the horrors and with his mighty hammer, he had sent them all back to the hell they came from

>>538292798
I'm mainly thinking of doing it to my tree bros. They kind of just sit on their single tile of land anyways.

I WANT ONE TOO

>Been fighting the same skavenblight rebellion for like 5 turns
>Always retreats just out of range
>Always one or two units that survive
>instant 8 units the follow turn

this game is the easiest its ever been and thats a good thing

>>538294538
>this game is the easiest its ever been
Hard disagree, if we're talking Warhammer, 2 basically played itself.

>>538294179
>400 kills
>No veterency
Real-life warriors trained by cutting corpses and bound prisoners. Why would cleaving through an ocean of slaves not give a significant amount of battle experience?

>>538294793
>>538294538
They made ranged units way too powerful and it makes the game way too easy.

>Take that ya warpstone-fart huffing dirt scrabbling retards
>Come back to Reikland again and I'll summon the fuckin' Counts

Wtf? The nearest Slaanesh army, if there is one, is over by the shrine of khaine. Will capturing one of their cities count? The Helves are sieging them for like 40 turns instead of wiping them so am I just fucked?

>>538295760
Oof, mirin that army.

>>538293527
they get a bit more phys resist and are just super cheap to replace in noctilus faction

>Ambient boat creaking sounds
>Sails that move in the wind
Seems like a lot of work for a terrain piece. I'm holding out hope.

The Maelstrom is my favorite battle in each campaign. It's thematic for Aran, it gives me a great city, and it means I've wiped out my torturous starting enemies because I have to cut through them to get there. It marks the moment the campaign becomes fun.

>>538296116
Hero actions can give the stamp tramp as well. When N'kari's faction gets wiped out you will lose that mark dont worry.

Tyring to min-max chorfs buildings in lategame is fucking awful.

Whats the strongest single army you can make? So far the best one ive done was taurox+few gore bulls and around 10-15 minotaurs with shields. Just steamrolled over everything in 30 seconds.

>>538299624
Kroq-Gar with 18 scar-veterans and Lord Kroak

>>538296116
Its my Franzer Elite army. Sometimes I switch out 2 greatswords with Emperors Wrath elector count Steam Tanks but I keep finding having more infantry is more versatile

>>538299624
Probably leviathans. Massive collision damage, very high armor, very high health, good speed, can be healed with lore of vamps, high physical resistance, high MA, MD, AP, and WS, chance to rise again, wear a crew of .50 cal sniper zombies as a hat. My 18 stack of these used to drop blimps in 20 seconds or less.

>>538299624
>>538300918
Their stats for reference. Also Magic and mortis engine effects do nothing to them.

>>538293449
Your expert charge defence halberds should just block charges from all infantry too however

>>538300918
Leviathans are unplayable because their unit icon is a foot, despite a distinct lack of feet in their model.

>>538301396
The foot is to get you horny.

>>538301396
>consistent readable representation of what a unit does instead of literally just the unit's head as their banner
sovl...
lost technology...

God damn Hellebron is huge. Hot.

>>538299624
For me, it's Morghur with a Jabberslythe stack. Chaos Fayosh.

how many times do I have to teach you this lesson dookie man?
like the 4th time this campaign killing rakarth just like this

>>538302774
Lords are always mogging
Just like real life CEOs
You never see a tall man working some dead end ass job

>>538303354
I don't know why recent AI does this so much

>>538303667
I love the TKs silly little fruit slice hats

bros.... how long has this been in the game? this changes everything

>>538305608
Anon...

>>538305930
Excuse him he normally doesn't play past turn 10.

Very smart skeletons

>>538306834
That's a lot of pots

>>538305608
Since Warhammer 3's release basically? I don't remember it not being there.

>>538307291
UUUU

Aiiieeeee Chaosbros look out!
I really missed Hellebron. Always my most favourite; my blood-thirsty infantry-blending murder granny. Is rather nice facing so much WoC then Khorne and they get slaughtered in the thick melee.

>>538307291
The game gives you so many now. I was spamming research boosts in all my territories, and crafting stuff, and still had too many.
I wish there was a 'craft X' option in the mortuary cult, because I got kind of tired of it after a while.

>>538299624
malakai and 19 blimps

>>538307678
I always assumed witch elves were for light chaff blending and got wrecked by heavy armor
Does she just buff them enough for it not to matter?

I only just learned that fall damage is a thing after using my Doom Knights to knock some dudes off a wall during a siege.

>>538309251
I think I was using Vargheists when I realized how broken it is
Flying units also get a guaranteed takeoff after standing idle for a second if they're on a wall, they can't get trapped there like they can on the ground

>>538305608
this mod makes it even better:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3071058010

>>538309202
Bit of both. Witch Elves have their own rampage potion which is great, but even better is Hellebron has the single most fun innate ability in the game. The units that 1v1 chaos warriors as such do get held-up, but when breaks in the line appear (which will be quick) then you use those units to wrap around to the ass of the warriors and it's gg no re.

>>538309251
They can knock down your own units too fyi

>>538305608
It's TWW3 feature that was introduced at it's release

>LOOSE

Coast heros aren't good enough to warrant being locked behind cove buildings.

which factions are most like the iron hands of 40k

>get purple hand hideout turn 3
>have to tank your early economy/delay building to avoid tzeentch aids from spreading across your starter province
this shit is annoying

>>538311087
What specifically? If you mean slow in-battle, then counts or nurgle. If you mean heavily defensive on campaign map, then Kyslev (specifically if you focus on their technology for it and play where you are very slow in expanding, and focus more on their mechanics that are for defense/fights on your homelands).

>>538310997
Bows are so fun

>>538311358
I had very similar in my current Dookie campaign. Very early game (1st province) I got some Chaos unusual location that required 4k to remove. Like fuck off, man. I hope there's a cheat to disable these or I'll make it myself honestly. The latest batch of unusual locations are typical CA where it's just bad ideas and bloat.

>>538309251
It works on hills too, if the conditions are right. You need to be charging directly downhill, and it needs to be the kind of charge that sends them flying.

>>538311087
I hope you meant to say Iron Warriors

>pyrrhic victory
>seduce a darkshart
>valiant defeat

>>538311358
What faction are you playing? I'm playing coast and haven't gotten a single LOI. Pushing turn 40 rn.

>>538311438
aura
>>538311692
no.

>>538311489
Manliest Welf

>>538311695
do it manually loser

>>538311941
I will manually click this button and proceed to die

>anon playing a seduction faction and just can't manual battle
Man am I the only one who actually manuals when playing such? The fuck is wrong with some of you guys.

noooooo dont make me play nooo

>>538309251
Was hillarius on WH3 launch when the terraced rice paddies would delete ogre siege weapons.

>>538312040
how big are your breasts femanon

>>538311719
I was playing as the Last Defenders. Getting that location while having to do the two/three-turn marches to the skaven cities was a slog because I couldn't even just sack the settlements quickly for the 10k needed to dismantle it.

>>538307583
>>538310774
shit.... well at least it hasn't been there since WH2 release or something

Praise Myrmidia, Cadavo version 4.0 is here.
The fat toad shall not stop the march of the Tilean man.

This campaign I skipped getting the LL (whose perks are worse than the generic lords now) in favor of saving infamy and rushing the verses. It's cool how CA made the pirate lords B-line for your LL instead of your cities like normal. About to have a pirate battle of the ages.

wish sacking or razing didnt move you

>>538313036
Lizardmens AI is broken currently, enjoy your free win.

>>538313113
Wish I could choose where those involuntary movements go like the AI clearly does
Fucking thing does a complete 180 sometimes to get out of range of a second army

>>538314178
>walks past your army
>crosses a river
>marches through your settlement's zone of control
>stands just out of reach from your remaining movement
nothing personal, just total war.

Step one, remove some natives.
>>538313528
Its WH2, I aint touching 3 until its done

>>538314178
not sure if it's a bug or intentional, but in Pharaoh I have literally had enemy armies get in a boat and sail across the nile while retreating on a few occasions

markus is actually pretty fun, just wish pic related was maybe twice as often instead of like every 30 turns or whatever

>>538315269
Pretty sure you can make it happen every 5 turns as long as you fight 5 battles every turn

Anyone else notice there are no rogue armies spawning?

>>538315269
this guys campaign made wh2 boomer cry and shit their pants

>>538316149
I haven't noticed because in wh3 they gimped rogue armies so hard that they might as well not even exist in the first place

smelly dumb orc spearchukkas

>>538316719
There's a spawnpoint three feet from my capital so I've usually fought off three of them by now. Nothing this campaign, or anywhere. I wonder if they're broken.

>>538317030
The woodelf outpost garrison is amazing.

>>538317423
is it now?

>>538317030
they might be broken not sure
is there a map of the spawnpoints anywhere? I see a rogue army like 1 out of every 5 campaigns and even then they don't really do much, I really miss how they could start their own empires in wh2

>>538317501
The one they build in your city, not their regular cities those still suck. See pic rel.

>>538318168
>See pic rel.
I'm not seeing it, send me a DM

>>538317030
>>538318336
Jesus Christ, the state of this playerbase.

>>538316305
they buffed the shit out of him
those reinforcements are way better than what you used to get

>>538317423
It gives a quarter of a stack, three great units and two god-tier units.

This lord dreams of the say she can finally leave skavenblight and never fight another rat again (until the endgame crisis that is) This cities barely worth the investment to hold it.

Is cream fixed?

>>538320663
idk hth

Petey's missile stats are getting out of control. Once I swap out the double barrel for a skytitan's string and get him a ranged banner he's going to be 2-hit killing lords.

>>538316149
>>538317030
>>538318154
A mechanic so pointless and undercooked even CA forgot about it.

>>538320852
Won't blunderpuss make it very difficult to deal the whole 1.2k damage to a small, single entity over a longer distance?

the only time rogue armies are ever relevant are when one appears in your province at turn 5 and immediately shits out a secondary army with the intent to declare war on you while you try to move on to your actual goals.

>>538321061
you could probably count on one hand the amount of mechanics that haven't been forgotten about or neglected at this point

I absolutely detest the warband recruitment mechanic of WoC and its vassal system, it's the sole reason I barely play them, awful, just awful. The warband upgrades are good though and should be implemented game-wide to all factions, like upgrading a lower spearmanni to halberd, it's crazy when you think about it that you can't upgrade a saurus warriors to a saurus warriors (shields) and you have to entirely disband and re-recruit basically the same unit.

>all this talk of rogue armies not working
>just got my shit pushed in by rogue army dookies with a shades (greatsword) doomstack

>>538322405
Mods fix this

>>538322824
>cheats fix this

>>538323035
Yes.jpg

>>538316719
>>538321061
this nigga razed half of Bretonnia before Louen could stop him

>>538322405
not sure if you dislike the system or don't understand how to use it, posting this anyways because why not
If you have 2-3 adjacent provinces with high corruption, you can instantly recruit a decent army already, and then upgrade it further later. And this is not counting gifted units. In dark fortress territory this is even stronger, but ultimately unnecessary since by the time you get T4-5 buildings you already have so many recruitment/xp buffs anyways, and you can spread corruption so quickly.
The vassals are just there to protect your dark fortresses and give you allied units, they are hardcoded to be defensive. You just need to vassalize/subjugate whenever given the chance, and raze everything you conquer, and give your vassals xp from the dilemmas since you don't need xp anyways. Your vassals as one whole will colonize everything and snowball as the player would, but only if you let them.

>>538322405
it's good until you lose an army or need to raise another one in the late game
late game the enemies will be shitting out non stop high tier units while you are reduced to marauders
your vassals do not really compensate for this especially if you vassalize a minor faction as their auto resolve power becomes total garbage
on the other hand your campaign is so easy and steamrolly this rarely becomes an issue

>>538325454
he just wanted to get to the beach

>>538325454
That's kinda why the mechanic just feels undercooked.
>Whoah, I love how this army, that soon will be at full two stacks, has just spawned in the very middle of my giant empire, 15 turns of forced march away from the frontlines
said no one ever.

>>538329663
this is sadly why i always keep my ror in serve
you might think it's cheese but it's better than having half your empire burnt down for no reason

>>538321560
He doesn't need to blunderbussy to reliably miss at range. At this point in the game every lord of note is riding something, and they'll usually try to beat on him if he's alone. The trick is to kite them away from their army, let them get very close, then turn on fire at will and pop enchanted ballistics to ammo dump into them. Once they're down Petey can roll around their infantry casting Wind of Trenchgun.

This was a field battle and it rocked. I only wish I brought more wildwood can-openers.

>Play Archaon
>Expect to go down to the old world and beat the shit out of it ASAP
>Have to tard wrangle some dark fortresses, kill half of my potential allies, and fight chaos shitstacks for 40 turns first
>Get down to Kislev and Throt has turned it into his personal shit pit
>Eventually get down to the Empire and Festus/Vlad have double teamed it

>>538331980
Yeah the Ordertide is nonexistant in TW3 which is a shame, Empire pretty much always gets swamped by Chaos/Rat/Vamps/Norsca every game unless the player is directly involved

>>538332096
>the ordertide is nonexistant
>the ordertide is too strong
literally everyone says something different
its just random

>>538332096
The only ortdertide faction I've fought in the last 60 turns was Boris.
What chaos faction actually gets to fight Order regularly?

>>538332345
>>538332096
If you play an evil faction ordertide is insane.
If you play a goodie faction, the opposite is true.
It's always been this simple.

>>538332405
peepeepoopoos get the first crack at the empire

>>538332552
other way around desu

I want landships but I also want welf units. Is it possible to make Orion and Franz get along?

>>538334316
super easy, just gift settlements

>>538334593
it is crazy what the ai is willing to do for a free settlement when it would otherwise be like pulling teeth from a toothless man

wtf are you supposed to do about Drazhoath as Tretch?

oh no!

>>538335427
same as when you play drazhoath where you go after tretch the moment you secure your first province
you go after drazhoath the moment you secure your first province too, he is right there and you need to knock him out then move to imrik right away

hello there

>>538336696
Yeah my initial problem was that I tried to go North instead of South on the map. I was able to catch him in an ambush and kill him. Thanks Anon.

>>538314991
like tears in rain

Between Rise of the Republic and Wrath of Sparta, which is the right campaign to experience the beginnings of the Roman Empire?
Based off the in-game descriptions, Rise of the Republic seems like the obvious answer, but it starts out after the empire is already established, and Wrath of Sparta takes place before then.

>>538338827
Wrath of Sparta sucks, do yourself a favour and skip it

>>538339884
Rise of the Republic it is then
Why does Wrath of Sparta suck? It does seem messy at least.

>>538338827
Wrath of Sparta does not have Italy at all. Despite being a Peloponnesian War game where the Athenians were destroyed in Sicily. WoS is a tiny scope, barely any new content/assets, hoplite warfare is rather shitty in vanilla R2.

>>538338827
Also you're incorrect in that the empire was not established with ROTR. It's 300s, at a time in which the Romans held Latium and that was basically it.

no one cares about wrath of sharta

Anons I haven't played WH for a long time and I got back recently to play WH2 for Settra's campaign. Apparently the old spectator mode that I used back then doesn't work anymore and has been replaced by a much dumber AI General mod.

I just want to watch my Hierotitan doomstacks wreck shit for fun but for some reason they keep breaking formation for no reason, like walking backwards just before they engage the enemy. Is there a smarter alternative to AI General?

>>538341083
Without knowing much about history, the game made it sound like the empire was established 100 years before 399 when the campaign starts, but maybe I was getting that confused with the city of Rome. Still going with that campaign since it seems like a good "intro" to the culture. Only played a bit of Caesar in Gaul so far and it was fun, but I felt like I was spoiling myself starting out as a big dick empire without experiencing their origins.
>>538342184
Not sure but if you don't find anything you can always save replays of your battles if you want to watch them afterwards.

>>538341116
Strong words for somebody in spearing range, you will endure my wrath!

>>538342729
You should have fun with ROTR then. It was by the Troy/Pharaoh guys so the assets/visuals are good, there's nice faction variety (Sardinians, Greeks, Romans, Celts, Carthaginians). Allah forgive me for linking to R**ddit but I am too lazy to save the image and convert it to png, but you can see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/90dcdh/rise_of_the_republic_faction_starting_positions/#lightbox

I am not sure if Latium is a single province or not, but you start with just 2 cities as Roma, so you're very much babby growing big. Which I agree with your taste is the more fun way to play.

the Divide et Impera mod has a really good overhaul of Rise of the Republic too

would you live in this house

>>538246575
>>538246614

>>538343914
Seems chill but it would get too dark. There is only one window that we can see.

I think I have too many cheats installed.

Meow Ying

>>538334316
If you are playing Franz, just befriend the elves in the Laurelorn Forest, if you're Orion you're technically going against what his campaign is about

>>538327132
>until you lose an army
>in the late game
Sounds like a skill issue

>>538331980
Same with Tamurkhan. Wanted to go south but got stuck fighting Kholek, then Grimgor, then all of the Chorfs.

whats the easiest ai race to beat the shit out of and steal all their land for free?

>>538350360
the one that nakai shits out and leaves helpless and undefended

>>538350360
Lizards currently because their AI is broken.
Otherwise probably Vampire Coast.

>>538350360
Empire almost never stands a chance if you get to them early. AI just doesn't know what to do with them until it can start spamming landships

>>538350360
skulltaker

Convince me that this isn't the worst unit in the game

>>538352241
carrion and mounted yeomen exist

>>538352389
Carrion and Mountain Yeomen are more useful than sky lanterns.

In fact, the sky lantern is one of the few enemies carrion can beat.

>>538352241
I didn't mind them, especially for siege defense and getting them to float above the walls to shoot enemies that have climbed onto them

vampire fucking shits get off my lawn

>>538352890
Anon, that's just the placebo effect. Sky lanterns don't do anything. They are flying paperweights that do nothing. They have 30 ammunition. If they expended all of it on wall defenders, it wouldn't kill even a single full unit. You are better off with literally any other unit.

>>538352241
I had to think about it and the best use of these is only for SEM or hero assassinations which the roster has better options so you win

>>538353740
I saw a video where three of these fucking things were shooting at Throgg and it took them 5 fucking minutes to kill him with aid from a lord.

how am i supposed to defeat the vampires as nurgle good fucking lord, i am wiping out vampire doom stacks left and right but they just keep spawning new armies out of thin air and are ironicly widdling me down through attrition, winning almost every battle but not sure how to win the war here

>>538354117
I think I discarded these from my mind tactically so quickly without ever seeing how bad they actually were that anytime my magistrates leveled I would just put them back on the horse where they belong

>>538347564
the bastions defense requires it

>turn 4 undercity
wtf
Does the AI just get these automatically?

>>538355084
I think some factions start with an undercity.

I think Ikit used to get an automatic undercity at Altdorf.

>>538355445
I don't know about Ikit but I've played plenty of Snikch and he doesn't start with any undercities. Must be an AI only thing.

This was a lot easier than I expected it to be, I did one time play an Oxyotl campaign in early WH3 to near completion but I feel like that's cheating to compare it to other Ligger campaigns (and in this case, Mazdamundi's), he's the only one to have a cool and slightly more balanced teleportation system compared to the newer bullshit ones CA has added. Early game fucking sucks but they give you decent enough troops to deal with it early on and while economy never really gets good until you have like 20+ settlements going, I feel like the major issue Im having is that I don't really have time to stop and recruit their big monsters on account of being railroaded into conflicts, the campaign felt like I was constantly having to deal with big threats that just had a shit ton of armies (Yuan Bo then Markus then Skulltaker then Skrolk) where I just had no time to recruit their big monsters. Also Temple Guards either need buffs or to be brought down to and T1/T2 for Saurus Warriors + a buff to the red line and tech tree for Temple Guards, its really sad how cool they look but the only ones worth grabbing are really the blessed variant and the RoR, even then they're outperformed by the Blessed variants of Saurus Warriors. Still had my fun but if I revisit the liggers I want to pick a campaign thats a bit more comfortable than Mazdamundi, playing him is fun as hell however.
>has a strong mount
>has strong magic
>has barrier
>tanky as fuck
Now I dread the last campaigns I have to do for the VH trophy. Not doing Norsca or Slaanesh until their DLC and rework so that leaves
>Beastmen
>Wood Elves
>VCounts
>Bretonnia
>VCoast
>Daniel
Part of me wants to wait on VCounts and Bretonnia to get a rework since VCounts might get a slight one if Neferata or Nagash ends up added after ToT and maybe theyll make Daniel fun at some point in the future so Im holding off on those.

>>538360131
just cheat Daniels campaign, its unironically not worth playing if you have this much autism

>>538360494
>actually cheating
As gay as this campaign is Id rather just suffer through it, that being said I still have options before then so Ill take those for now, nigger

>>538360131
Daniel is never getting reworked. Daemons of Chaos is abandoned. There's a reason they put Be'lakor in WoC with infinite daemon gift unit slots as a band-aid.

>>538361410
Definitely feels that way, really makes me wonder why they decided to make Daniel in the first place if they were just gonna make Belacuck be everything youd want from Daniel and more in vanilla.

>>538362286
The "build your donut steel daemon prince" idea was probably intended to help sell the base game.
Be'lakor is part of DoC codewise in Realms of Chaos and in custom battles but he was moved to WoC for IEE, likely because CA recognized that the faction was unsalvageable without redoing it from the ground up.

>>538363054
I think theres a cool system that was just outright abandoned, I remember when Daniel was first revealed and his mechanics people were not only looking forward to it but the idea being used as like a gear system for other Lords in the game. At the end of the day his mechanic ends being the worst one because theres nothing interesting about the body parts. You use whats optimal and it makes you a worse version of better LLs at the end of the day that has to specialize when other LLs can do what he does but better with less effort. Its also lame that the fall back is "just use mods" because CA has shown at times they can fix things up but if GW mandated theyre not allowed to touch the faction like they did with VCoast, then thats just extremely gay.

wayfarer is dumb and need a nerf

>>538286464
I didn't know they added poise back to soulslop, maybe I oughta play this one

>>538175553
we're so back

>>538360131
Bretonnia is super fun

How would you react if GW allowed TCAL to add Stormcast Eternals to the Empire

>>538375392
>TCAL Faggot
g8 b8 m8

TCA

TCLAP

tclap tclap tclap tclap
go bankrupt go bankrupt go bankrupt go bankrupt

Reminder

>>538313036
why does the wh2 campaign map look so much better

>>538377770
Less saturated. More washed. Been ~2 years since I last touched WH2 but I think there's just less shit around, less busy. Makes it easier on the eyes. Maybe a difference with fog too but I can't say for sure on this as I've removed fog from campaign map in my WH3.

>>538377770
They probably couldn't produce similar level of quality on a scale that would be required given all the corruptions and shit so they went with easier and cheaper plastic warcrafty style. In other words Hyenas.

wait they weren't actually supposed to come down from the chaos wastes... I just joined the war to keep my outpost...

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Magnus the Pious once stuck his hand in a 15 year old Lahmian vampire's supple, developed ass.

>>538380453
Magnus the Pious?
More like Magnus the Based.

Is there a mod for WH3 that makes the battles closer to old TW style (morale importance, less hp reliant systems)

I love the world of warhammer but I get so incredibly bored playing it as an RPG. Stat pumping is unappealing to me, I want my unit positioning to matter

Wait did they expand Valkia's area?

>>538382279
Which area? Her ass?

how bad kairos is? never played him

>>538360131
Beastmemes are a lot of fun. If you're having trouble getting into it play Morghur as his early game is pretty on rails and comfy.

So...if you have that Tzeentch unusual location that will grant buffs to future campaigns will there be any option to turn it off? Like having those buffs would be fun for a bit but eventually you might not want to have such powerful events that could trigger.

>>538383235
just delete the building if you don't like it, it's not that hard

>>538383235
Can't you turn it off in the options?
Also are you REALLY worried about """accidentally""" moving a character with 20 LL defeat traits to that location and powering it up? Fucking lmao

>>538383103
Based ESL. He isn't hard.

Doing a Gelt campaign and Zhao Ming actually locked in and has been beating back Vilitch and Snikch. His sister immediately jobbed in the north though.

They need to retune the TK economy, there's no way I should be making 10K+ per turn by turn 50

who the fuck is this

>>538386694
Those upkeep reduction effects are paying off

>>538386694
but anon, the DLC will get delayed (again)...

>>538386694
You make that much or more on pretty much everyone by that point in the game.

>>538386810
He's the Counter, duh! Can't you read?

why does ai cathay only recruit lions and peasant horsemen

For the first time I watched a Costin Gaming campaign guide video where he accidentally revealed how he had manually fought only 8 out of 90 battles during his campaign. And people seriously watch this scrub for advice?

I think my least favorite part of any campaign is when I have to fight skaven in the late game when they just have 10 shitstacks scurrying around everywhere

>>538343019
yeah, I endured it, now what?
get lost loser

>>538343914
no, its build in shitty place, the rain would flood it every time it rain

>>538380453
he was pious before or after that?

im a tranny. factions for this feel?

>>538388948
>For the first time I watched a Costin Gaming campaign guide video where he accidentally revealed how he had manually fought only 8 out of 90 battles during his campaign. And people seriously watch this scrub for advice?
Seems pretty normal for a content creator. ElvenPlotArmour straight up made a guide for one of the Chorf LL's where the play was to AR every single battle in the first 10 turns.

>>538390596
Alarielle

>>538352241
Funny, on the table everyone's complaining that they're way too good right now

So the AI actually can roid up Archaon?

>>538386694
Not like TKs really need money.

>>538352241
Grail Reliaques.
You can buff the peasants to the max and they'll still get rolled over.

Question, why didn't CA implement a simple mechanic like the did in 3 kingdoms where by a certain number of turns, say turn 60. The different factions consolidate into a handful of empires and create a true mid to late game experience?

This is such an obvious solution to solving the current late game nonsense which allows the player to snowball and turn every campaign into a cakewalk. There should be some kind of pressure on the player to expand enough to make the cut within 60 turns otherwise it just kind of makes every campaign kind of pointless imo.

Guys. Please tell me one of Slaanesh's DLC units isn't something you can get right now as N'Kari after allying with Delves, building an outpost and going to Allied Recruitment.

>>538394361
but you can't ally recruit in multiplayer!

>>538394298
Too many players complained about super empires in WH2 where you would fight in every campaign the same couple super strong factions.

CA listened.

>>538394639
>Too many players complained about super empires in WH2 where you would fight in every campaign the same couple super strong factions.

ffs CA. Then tweak it. You don't have to abandon the whole idea. I think you are talking about the "Order tide " stuff rather than what I am referring to specifically which would be a tweak to the how factions confederate and form alliances.

>>538394912
It's all about how people complain about the problem. If people are shortsighted and too retarded to see the future consequences while begging for a change then it's on us that we didn't tard wrangle the retards better.

>>538395374
I hate people

>>538395374
CA has effectively eliminated all resistance. Because of the focus on reddit and the new, worse, forums, the only ones with the power to "tard wrangle" are the influencers because anyone else is just going to get drowned out by rabid fanboys. And aside from a few retards like legend or volound who no one takes seriously anyways, they all work for CA and more or less decide what the ""community"" deems to be an issue or not.

>>538388948
I usually turn it off before then because he starts ranting about how much he hates Jungles in the first 5 minutes of every video no matter what race or area of the campaign map he is discussing.
It's a shame because his videos are about interesting concepts but ultimately has nothing interesting to say in his weird whiny voice.

>>538396549
Yes very nasally and repetitive. I presume he is Romanian because many of them have that same reedy scratchy accent when speaking English.

i became a 28 year old incel today, LLs for this feel?

>>538398556
lmao faggot

>>538398556
Happy birthday incelanon!

>>538398556
Teclis, to prepare you for wizard powers.

>>538398556
play Alarielle to purify your soul, anon.

>>538398556
Kemmler has strong incel energy.

>>538267462
Meme faction that doesn't make sense in a game where there is no naval battles

When playing as Gelt, do you guys prefer to stay and bring Sigmar to Cathay? Or do you play diplomatically and return to the Empire? What do you do if that's the case?

>>538352389
You can use mounted yeomen as fleeing unit destroyers

>>538353053
Anon relax with the ultra mega wide screen

>>538400324
Return to The Empire and colonize some ruins because you get given some really big bonuses and get to save The Empire with a decently strong starting army.

>>538400523
>fleeing unit destroyers
Sounds good in practice but in reality this scenario never materializes and even if it does it doesn't warrant taking the unit over something that will win you the battle harder instead.
The main 2 reasons why chasing fleeing units doesn't really happen is because the enemy will fight to the death until they're almost wiped out no matter what the player does or doesn't do and the other reason is AR is 1000 times more effective at destroying everything in the enemy stack than any chaser can hope to achieve.

>>538400324
staying in cathay to get the double damage spells and fight different opponents is fun
if i wanted to play an empire run in the empire id just play karl or elspeth

>>538192419
>damn it's late, im gonna do the tutorial real quick then be asleep by 1am
>look out of my window and it's 10am
Holy shit.
What the fuck, this game is fucking awesome.
I have never had so much fun with a videogame before since like what, a decade?
It's like I could smell the Wargame shop owner's cigars all over again.
And I'm just playing the first game, I can't imagine what awaits me next.

Looking at new DEldars, maybe new DoK models won't be bad

>>538402287
Fuck, wrong thread...

>>538402287
>>538402416
This is The Warhammer™ general

>>538402416
Oh, right! TWW40k! Yeah! Squire anyone?

>>538402416
Itll be the right thread in 2026, don't worry

>>538402238
Enjoy your time, anon. What faction btw?

So female Archon anyone?

>>538401337
it can be worth having a unit of light cavalry or dogs in a different race's army for niche cases when it is worth it like fighting skaven or chasing down a fleeing hero, but the issue with yeomen specifically is that they have to compete with knights, who are still ok at this while also not sucking

>>538402287
>>538402416
/tg/fugee in the wild

>>538402949
Shit, wrong thread again...

>>538402287
>>538402598
>>538402949
looks fucking dogshit
you retards actually pay for this?

>"No, I wont confederate with you despite you being richer than me, having a much stronger power ranking and despite the fact that the enemy are right at my doorstep with 3 full armies because we only just met this turn so you cant even try to do diplomacy to save me and also im halfway across the world."
They really need to give every race in the game an option to confederate with a dead LL from your race, the Dwarves and Beastmen do it fine just do something equivalent to that for every other race instead of having to race a Hero across the world and hope you make it in time before they get wiped out.
>inb4 just use mods
Fuck no, CA should fix this shit, theyre adding this option for High Elves now and theyre the ones thst least need it besides for people that really wanted to confederate Teclis because the rest of them will usually survive long enough to confederate, now do it for the Skaven who are spread out, The Empire and VCounts too

Raise your arms, men!

>>538402287
>>538402598
>>538402949
Valrak was right once again... He never misses... Could it mean? No... No way... CA would never... It wouldn't work with the formula... Not possible...

>>538406503
>those random white trees
lmao

>>538407176
>He doesn't live in Numenor
yikes

>>538406737
>Valrak was right once again
About what?

>>538407176
It's snowing outside, can't you tell?

>>538407395
THIS

>>538407626
Well, most factions in 40k are delusional, same as trannies, so it kinda fits.

>>538407395
Deldar

>>538407626
there's two types of warhammer fans: the obese and the transgender

>>538408547
grim...

>>538408547
that's just tabletop hobbyists in general, go to any games store on game night if you wish to experience this first-hand

>>538408790
grave, even

I bought warhammer I and II, which of their starting factions is most complete without the extra lords and units from other dlc?

>>538411347
Lizardmen
Dark Elves

>>538408547
There's also kids and the concerned parents escorting them

>>538411347
Unlike warhammer 3 factions, they all do just fine without dlc. They might have some roster holes, but they are all good at what they do and have decent variety.
I would say overall probably dwarfs though, since all of their best units are base-game until warhammer 3. Greenskins too if you don't care about goblins.

How the fuck do I increase each God authority in a given Lord with the Warriors of Chaos? Do I just have to use aligned heroes and "rotate them"?

>>538412132
Tech
Leveling up the lord/heroes in the army

>>538412132
authority is a useless stat, the only thing that really matters from it is upkeep, but you fight so many battles as warriors that money shouldn't be an issue

I feel like starting a Kislev campaign

>>538415339
I like their new Ice Court/Orthodoxy mechanic so far, but I think there isnt an option to confederate the other faction through it anymore
Not that it really matters because Kostaltyn gets wiped out most of the time anyway

>>538415339
Which LL?

>>538415727
He doesn't if you help him out. If you take out the rats he usually fights off Azazel just fine.

>>538415339
Play Boris and take out major threats early on then return to Kislev a hero/rescue it from the rats

Total War Fire Emblem

>>538361410
>>538362286
>>538363054
>>538364095
Yeah, the faction's fucked, which is a shame. Be'lakor should've been the LL. At least he ended up being the best WoC faction.

>>538402287
Why would they purposely taunt talentlets and contrastards with that NMM on the official model?

Yep, Kostaltyn time.

>>538418802
holy sexo

>vomiting all night, diarrhoea all night, found out I shit the bed this morning

What LL?

>>538419482
Meowing.

>>538419482
Beastmen have a solid foundation of shitting on herdstones lore.
Greenskins have a literal shit building mechanic.
Nurgle? A mere animation. Pathetic.

Despoilers

>>538419482
Belegar Ironhammer.