Thread 538245779

Visual Novel General #7183

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

Previous thread: >>538213246

>>538245779 (OP)
Uwaa... kusai...

Reminder that Muramacomrades run this thread.

You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

What do vnbros think about current state of Muv luv franchise?

>>538246015
…a child?

>>538246027
I don't think he knew what made it successful.

>>538246015
I don't give a fuck about lolis. Thank God yuzusoft did it away with them.

>>538246027
if this shit gives them enough money for a new eroge then I don't mind

>>538246015
That's a kid

>>538246067
We all know Anju was a loli until they gave her an *upgrade* to dodge incoming fire.

post a good natural blonde heroine

>>538246027
Became a slop just like Grisaia.
There's no point in reading anything released after Alternative

post a good fake blonde heroine

>>538246027
Why do you keep asking and posting about it?

>>538246207
>We all know
Meds. Now.

>>538246246
>>538246278

>>538246015
Never got the appeal outside the taboo factor

>>538246437
I have no idea if she's a good heroine but her sprite is really big. Doesn't it bother you when a heroine's sprite reaches all the way to the top of the screen?

>>538246565
She's a great heroine. One of the best ever.

>>538246565
No, why would it?

>>538246278
Why do you keep asking and posting about it?

This is a pretty cool main villain lair.

>>538246674
It means she is taller than protag-kun. The top of your cone of vision is taller than your own height. Maybe I'm the only one autistic enough to care but I REALLY do not like when sprites stretch more than 3/4 of the way up the screen, unless the point is to show that the character is tall.

>>538246565
Midgetbro....

>>538246918
As someone attracted to men I don't really find this much muscle attractive.

>>538247168
Your favorite Ooe character?

>>538247168
I'm sorry to inform you anon but you're gay

おほぉぉ、おチンポ、凄いきちゃうっ

>>538247037
So true...

>>538247218
The Ooe characters are all pretty built, I dunno if they'd be up that anon's alley. All very skinny though, clearly visible ribs on pretty much all of 'em. Maybe it's post wartime starvation, maybe it's just the author's fetish.

My friend is asking me to recommend him a vn with no sex, but gore is fine. Anything that you would like him to read?

>>538247334
maggot baits

Yuzusoft should start making non virgin heroines!

>>538247895
Plotbro...

>>538247987
Imagine a yuzuge where the best bro character has a girlfriend and (You) try to steal her when entering the route

>>538247895
Soon Visa will pressure them into making 35 year old non-virgin feminist heroines with a Master's degree that need to settle down with a high earning male before they become barren.

>>538248004
Back sprite kino.

>>538248163
Sorry, plotbro, I'm a ascended buta. I only read moege with a single heroine and if I have a bro, I want my bro to be happy with his girlfriend.

>>538248369
Maybe on the planet nekonyan

Ascended buta implies fallen buta

>>538248510
Real butas only need one heroine to love and cherish because they have made peace with the fact that the other 4 billion men on the planet deserve happiness too.

>>538246027
VNs are dead. Gacha are the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VA0np-k6E

>>538248510
>if I have a bro, I want my bro to be happy with his girlfriend.
What are you thoughts on your bro fucking the heroine?

>>538246027
>main girl is a pink

Oof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU0X7CWBbYI
This is just too good... maybe gacha are worth reading? it's on VNDB after all...

>>538248851
>>538248510
You both type like sex-havers
Not real moebuta

>>538248510
>>538248851
This. A true buta only reads moege with one heroine or only one route.

Still not playing gacha.

>>538248901
There isn't room in the market for very many live service money pit gambling games. Even if gachas are more profitable, there will always be a space in the market for VNs because most companies aren't capable of competing with the established gacha games.

Been playing gacha every day for the past 10 years.

You are not fooling anyone ABdul

>>538248510
>>538248851
>>538249114
Thoughts, moeGODs?
https://vndb.org/v22483

>>538249319
>Daybreak Translations

>>538249281
And you are not fooling anyone either, Karenschizo

>>538249436
>>538249281
What triggered this?

Muramaso central

>>538249464
He's just mad that Karenschizo can't make fun of him as ABdul anymore.

>>538249464
I think it's Karenschizo, he loves to shitpost about ABdul. And ABdul likes to shitpost about Karen. They are the same person.

>>538249319
>https://vndb.org/v22483
I'm not into onee-chans but it's funny that someone got triggered and called it NTR.

ABdul is not here anymore. Take your meds and never mention him ever again.

>>538249680
>it's funny that someone got triggered and called it NTR.
That's what we call a falseflag, Karenschizo.

>>538249741
I wish I was ABdul

I want makinaslut back

>>538247037
kek

>>538249790
We will never get Makinaposts again

>>538249750
Great. Now I'm Karenschizo too.

>new colored uniforms
Cute! Much better than the old black & white ones with colored accents. Reminds me a lot of Cafe Stella's uniform to be quite desu.

>>538249908
kek
I'm so glad I'm not Karenschizo or ABdul

>>538249952
She looks like a penguin.

>>538246565
luv tall white heroines

>>538249908
You might be a tumor in his brain for all we know

>>538249952
>Reminds me a lot of Cafe Stella's uniform to be quite desu.
That's because they ripped it off.

>>538250067
ABdul doesn't have a brain.

>>538249952
Poor Vanilla doesn't have any cleavage to show off. Someone get her a jacket.

>>538249952
>La Soleil
>La
>"B-B-BUT..."
I know.

Who is the best vn translator moogy , steiner or someone else?

>>538250219
Makoto

>>538250219
>moogy
is this the fag who translated muramasa?

>>538250219
Moogy is not a translator, he's an editor.

>>538250274
This
https://vndb.org/s27459

>>538245779 (OP)
>E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Why are you still mentioning ABdul, even though he is gone now? stop it.

>>538250298
>muh moogy
He's not an actual translator.

>>538250194
>gendered nouns
Romance languages are retarded. Why is a table considered masculine while a chair is feminine? There's no rhyme or reason. You just gotta remember shit, like english pronunciation:
>read rhymes with lead
>but read doesn't rhyme with lead

>>538250338
ABdul and Karenschizo are two sides of the same coin

>>538250298
He edited someone's translation. Despite his popularity he never translated any VN other than drakoi which received a huge backlash for its extremely liberal translation. These days he's working on a gacha.

>>538250395
>These days he's working on a gacha.
I'm not surprised.

>>538250351
Hey, hey, that's not true. He contributed an entire *77* lines of translation to Subahibi just so he could get into the credits.

>>538250381
>There's no rhyme or reason. You just gotta remember shit
Just like English.

>>538250468
I kneel moogy-sama

>>538250468
>just so he could get into the credits.
He got into the credits on Subahibi? Wow, he must be the best translator ever.

>>538250381
Pretty sure that in romance languages you only have to check if the word ends in the vowels a or o.

>>538250690
Yeah, no, that's just not how it is. It's random.

>>538250726
Examples?

>>538250219
Moogy is the god of this general.

>>538250778
>Examples?
>table - masculine
>chair - feminine
>flower - masculine
>sun - masculine
>moon - feminine
>cloud - feminine
>book - feminine
>water - masculine
>fire - masculine
>air - masculine
>earth - feminine

>>538250381
The sun is obviously male though.

>>538250842
Why are you posting words in english?

>>538250395
>drakoi
Ah... Moogy's Shakespearean prose...

>>538250825
>god of this general
>can't translate a single line
holy shit

>>538250825
What is the best Final Fantasy game

>>538250937
Drakoi is a masterpiece.

Thoughts on blonde heroines like Arc?

>>538250825
No wonder he never got laid

>>538251085
i don't care as long as she has pubes

>>538250842
>flower - masculine
Flowersis, our response?

>>538251098
His only love is translating VNs, he doesn't need women.

>>538251127
the golden mane...

>>538250937
weebs are hilarious, "shakesperean"
rofling my ass ova here

>>538251070
*moogy's dra+koi
The original is meh

>>538251085
Woof woof!

>>538251175
Shakespeare is the peak of the English language thoughever.

>mfw I read moege
Lowkey, I'm miserable 90% of the time. I rarely laugh or smile. The only time I'm happy is when I'm reading moege.

>>538251412
Didn't you say you were a 33 yo virgin in a previous thread
Yeah moege is definitely made for you guys

>>538251412
Least depressed moebuta.

>>538251412
You'd get happier by reading plotge

>538251527
I don't have any friends, family, hobbies or interests outside of VNs. I'm literally a vegetable.

>>538251647
Don't listen to this anon

>>538251718
Why not? What are you afraid of?

>>538251718
There is no way to feel more miserable.

Vegetable disabled MC and vegan heroine ge?

>>538251750
NTR, rape and sex with others

>>538251750
Subahibi will make you want to kill yourself

I really like how the TL's been consistent with the cat puns.
>>538251478
Haha...

>>538251838
If you can't handle subahibi, you're not ready for moege.

I wish I could suckle on Moogy's big hairy pecker
Come on Moogy. Destroy my bottom with your big old codger

>>538251910
>big hairy pecker
I thought he was a woman.

>>538251910
Are you this anon?

>>538251478
>Didn't you say you were a 33 yo virgin
H-Haha, who would still be a virgin at 33? Couldn't be me...

>>538251862
Turn on Japanese secondary subs so I can see the original.

>>538251412
>The only time I'm happy is when I'm reading moege.
Enjoy it while it lasts, I overdosed and I can no longer enjoy moege not even going back to wage cage resparked the joy of moege.

Virginity is a social construct (except for women)

I feel like a rookie adventurer listening to some veterans and their discussions of a legendary wizard

>>538252159
Read a bunch of vns with ntr until you reset your brain.

>>538252203
Oh this happens. They'll have another few threads at some point where they just post pre-2022 screenshots of the general and say it was better.

>>538252203
youre just in a asylum

>>538252159
>enjoy it while it lasts
How long do you think I've been reading moege?

>>538252203
It's just some guy who knows how to translate.

>>538252310
Not long given you're excited by nekopara.

>>538252360
Nekopara is cute tho

>>538252360
Nekopara? More like NekoSHIT

>>538252360
I will give the defence that Nekopara has such little going for it, that it is one of those games that you grab in a slump when nothing is coming out for a while, and you just want shit to do.

>>538252359
Normally you don't discuss about a guy who can simply translate for 15 years

>>538252459
Yeah it would've been better with a scat scene

>>538252360
Says a guy who probably posts yuzuge fifteen times a day.

>>538246918
How can one look at this and not wish to be like him?

>>538252491
>you grab in a slump when nothing is coming out for a while, and you just want shit to do
this but for umineko

>>538252538
I post Yuzusoft because it's high quality moege.

NegroNyan

>>538252528
yeah why is there no scene where he trained the catgirls to use the litter box

>>538252538
Yes, so?

>>538252359
He's more notorious for his other shenanigans than anything related to translations.

>>538252528
It already has scat scenes.

>>538252574
Nekopara is higher quality than any Yuzuge thoughbeit.

>>538252623
He's also notorious for being a fat, balding, old man who's lost all his teeth.

pvre

>>538246969
Where did you download Ragnarok from?
Ryuu, h-suki, animesharing, all have it deleted.

>>538252623
What do I have to do to keep the whole community obsessed with me after so many years?

>>538252593
You think adding 'Negro' to any word is funny?

>>538252642
Proof?

>>538252623
Name one thing he's done besides translate VNs.

>>538252723
Yes.

Seeing anime girls in wedding dresses in my veee eeennya shouldn’t get me feeling things.
But it do.

Visual negros
Negro novels

>>538252723
It is objectively funny. Try it for yourself. Replace a word in any VN title with Negro.

>>538252680
At least the animation work and art for Nekopara is good. I guess.

>>538252818
Name one.

>>538252842
This is the most retarded shit I've ever read in this general.

>>538252709
Host a website for fan translations and then use that as a springboard to become a professional social media attention whore.

There should be more VNs where I get stronger

Ange is mad.

/vn/egro

>>538252754
Putting EOPs in their place

>>538252880
It's the other way around. He was already an attention whore before he started doing translations.

>>538252878
We had a thread where one guys kept doing that with VN names for an hour and flooded the thread. Probably same person.

>>538252919
Preferably in another world after getting hit by a truck.

>>538252989
I think it's a different schizo but it's similar energy. It definitely gets annoying.

>>538252842
Try
https://vndb.org/v5

>>538252995
but that's not visual novel related

>>538252842
>Replace a word in any VN title with Negro.
My wife was stolen by that negro

>>538253081
That's a pretty good one.

>>538252709
>>538252754
He created Tlwiki and kicked started eroge fantranslations
He assembled smart JOPs and promoted good VNs.
He created the caste divide between EOPs and JOPs, made sure they'll always keep fighting.
When official translations became a thing, he helped many fantranslators get into the industry.

Who's worse, the attention whore or the whores who give attention to the attention whore?

>>538252995
I would die from the impact.

>>538253203
We call them JOPs here.

>>538253194
>He assembled smart JOPs and promoted good VNs.
He didn't assemble anyone. He just shitposts here and on irc every single day.

>>538252150
Here are a couple of puns I saw. Did the translators cook or were they writing fanfic?
>>538252159
I try not to overdose on moege by successively reading moege, episodic VNs don't count. I try to detox with gacha/vidya or fantasy/sci-fi novels inbetween moege reads or H-scenes.

>>538253194
*kickstarted

You can't translate japanese.
It is impossible.

>>538253276
>episodic VNs don't count
They do count, actually.

>>538253275
>He just shitposts here
You mean /vn/?

>>538253276
>I try not to overdose on moege by successively reading moege, episodic VNs don't count.
So you read a moege, then a plotge, then a moege, then a plotge, etc?

>>538253371
No, the JOPcord.

Why do people think about moogy so much? Because he has been with the community since the beginning of fantl when we had like 5 vn translated

https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=moogy&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>>538253317
This
I prefer chatgpt fanfic more

>>538253471
chatgpt is not a human though

>>538253471
AI can't translate Japanese, you fucking retard.

>>538253543
thats why i typed fanfic , learn to read JOPsama

The question is, why are there anons who remain so obsessed with someone who doesn't even know they exist?

>>538253465
He's the 15th vndb user..

>>538253589
You can't translate Japanese and you know it, you fucking retard.

>>538253589
JOPs are not humans.

>>538253657
They are ubermenschen, indeed.

>>538253596
They're trying to get him to notice them

>>538253276
Translations all seem fine to me. That Azuki one seems a little strange. But some of those English ones feel just as forced. I'm not sure if I'd call it cooking, but they all check out on my end.

>>538253712
they are the opposite of ubermenschen
the ones that only follow the rules and don't seek power

>>538253596
Making fun of moogy is just VN community tradition at this point

>>538253636
I never wrote that i or ai can, why are jops so triggered all the time

>>538253596
Because they're stupid and remember when he was a shitposter that made them mad. Most of those people barely read VNs anymore anyway. Move on.

I don't care retards, I'll leave a sexo girl here

>>538253775
you say it every time you call it fanfic you fucking retard

>>538253852
Nice socks.

>>538253802
>jops
>read vns
hahaha...

>>538253932
She has a nice butt too

>episode 4's about MC's daddy issues
Holy shit, this is Kanna's route all over again.
>>538253336
I see episodic VNs as individual routes. My autism compels me to read every route in a VN, but I'm not a completionist about it. For example, I read all the Good/True Ends in FSN but I don't have all 40 tiger dogos, only Bad Ends I read were those I got naturally & (after looking them up Bad Ends worth reading) Mind of Steel & Spark Liners High.
>>538253383
Yeah. I don't only read moege.

>>538253938
Well they used to.

Any high quality nukige which was released this year?

>>538253938
All the JOPs read at least one gay VN in the last year.

>>538254032
>I read all the Good/True Ends in FSN
UHHHHHHHH BASED DEPARTMENT??

>>538254116
Don't think moogy read it

>>538253938
I mean, it's the opposite of that. The issue with a lot of the JOP people here is they only read VNs so they have a really strange grasp on Japanese. And then get a big head from it.

type-shit is what killed the visual novels industry

>>538254203
What do you mean by strange grasp on Japanese? It's not like you need to be a polyglot to read Japanese media. Just a couple of years of study is enough.

>>538254284
And the internet killed the newspaper industry.
What else is new?

>>538254285
I fucking dare you to use "おれさま" in real life.

>>538254328
internet did a good thing, type-shit did a bad thing

Noctuary has good writing from what I have seen and the production value is also high I can see why this is the second highest CN visual novel

AWOOGA neuron sensors activated

>>538254392
I mean, it's pretty common in Japanese media.

>>538254403
You're confusing two completely different things.

>>538254440
Yeah, you see where the problem is now right?

>>538254526
I'm not a JOP so I can't tell

>>538254417
It's the only one with actual writing instead of sloppa

>>538254421
Imagine getting aroused by this.

>>538254628
I would just laugh, this scene is pure cringe

>>538254556
There isn't an English equivalent. But it's only used in media. If you said this in person people would think you have autism or psychosis.

Coconut is so fucking hot, bros. I already double dipped on her H-scenes.
>>538254628
I'm a gooner.

>>538254628
It's called being a man.

What's the appeal of heterochromia

>>538254628
Low testo bro...

the most manly thing ever is to cry to a nakige song that is written by a good writer

>>538254417
>Noctuary
>Stealing your title from Thomas Ligotti

>>538254421
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>538254786
In the case of Nekopara, I think it's just because it's common for cats to have it. So they have an easy excuse for a visual design choice that is character specific.

Cute casual outfits!
>>538254786
I don't get it either. Personally don't like heterochromia myself.

>>538254749
You can say "sir" in English.

>>538254909
>oresama
>sir
Are you stupid?

>>538254906
1-3 year old slave girls look like THIS?!

>>538254749
People in Japan use it in real life all the time though?

>>538245779 (OP)
>Chichi No Kaori

>>538254909
>>538254965
You can but that's really strange. I'm not really familiar with formal office language. But no one has ever told me oresama was a term I needed to be familiar with. And in English Sir would be formal language. You usually just say someones family name followed by an honorific.

>>538255147
It's not formal language, it's a stupid pompous way of referring to yourself that gets used in media. "Ore" means "I" (masculine personal pronoun) and you're attaching "sama" to that, like you're being respectful to yourself.

Mommy!

>>538255313
Yeah dudes like Gakuto use it to puff themselves up

>>538255147
>>538255313
The only English equivalent I can think of would be referring to yourself as "we", or the "majestic plural" as it's called that gets used by monarchs, but that's not the same exactly.

>>538254032
>I don't have all 40 tiger dojos
You did not read the VN.

>>538255313
No that is right. I only said formal because that anon was implying it was like, workplace language or something like that. When I've only ever seen it used in media by big hulking men.

>>538255349
SEXO

>>538255313
That's pretty much what I said. But it's not formal language. It's more of a media thing.

>>538255542
>>538255147
If you are in a work setting and you want to refer to yourself, you say "atashi" or "boku", depending on gender.

>>538255542
>>538255372
>>538255313
>>538255147
>>538254989
This is why I fucking hate JOPs.

>>538255610
You just say watashi

>>538255610
"Atashi" is a pronoun that gets used by girls, since it's like a cuter form of "watashi", and it's not suitable in that environment. A woman would say "watashi". In some settings like that a man would use it too.

>>538255542
>I only said formal because that anon was implying it was like, workplace language or something like that
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>538255610
Thank you Anon! Very kind!

>>538255674
Good thing I learned for travel instead of media.

oh god that guy's back from vacation

I like how the worldbuilding of this title revolves entirely around 'light' element and its application kind of like how fire force only has fire abiliity users

>>538255701
Oh did I just get bullshited? Oh well, not like I intend to work in Japan.

>>538255781
Only for like 5 minutes and then I'm off with my sister again.

>>538252543
>

>>538255701
>>538255610
Atashi is literally used by both genders and has nothing to do with sex.

Cute!

>>538255807
>fire force
kill yourself

>>538255884
Stop lying, “ore” is used by both genders

>>538255891
This feels like a bit from Neptunia.

Personally I'm more of a "jibun" kind of guy.

>>538255937
Ore is a masculine pronoun.

>>538255973
You are literally a woman

>>538255973
Jibun makes me think of one of the songs from that UItsu-P Traumatic album.

for me it's 余

>>538255990
I am a woman and I use ore.

>>538255926
Fire force has its flaws but the author used fire element in creative ways

>>538255891
I wish VNs were half as well animated as this. Wish this was the norm instead of static images.

>>538256110
You are gay though.

>>538256120
They would be if they made even half of nekopara revenue

>>538256120
It's not even animated, it's just a sprite moving.

>>538256040
Kageaki (literally me) uses jibun though

>>538256120
I kinda like how Qruppo does it where its sort of scuffed but it really paints your imagination.

>>538256213
>nekopara
>revenue
lol

>>538256172
I literally have a pussy.

>>538256309
It's mostly people in China who get those games. That's where the giga money is at for them.

>>538256120
You can do a lot with more static sprites if you want to

>>538256352
Then you're a faggot.

>>538255962
I unironically got filtered in Neptunia Game Makers during the Gold Third fight. After banging my head against the wall for almost an hour I just rage quit & uninstalled the game. I mean, yeah I was underleveled & undergeared but I didn't want to spend hours grinding.

>>538256378
That's just a CG tho

>>538247037
At least you're not working at Amazon. McDonalds is pretty chilled if you live in a White area and I mean White White not "white".

>>538256479
>That's just a CG though
And I'm the one who doesn't play VNs.

>>538256479
It's literally not a CG. It's the normal sprites the game uses. The engine they made lets them program movement like that.

>>538256309
They make around $16.million dollar per game , if other vn dev made that much money then industry would be saved

>>538256460
I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty close to ragequitting that fight too.

>>538256407
Ore wa faggot janai onna da bishoujo!

>>538256539
The sprites are static, it's just a CG

>>538255807
VN?

>>538256549
It's been like 2 years and I'm still on the first game because it is long as fuck.

>>538256696
You're just a lazy faggot

>>538256650
https://vndb.org/v38886

>>538256549
Favorite Nep? Mine's Nepgear. Yeah, I like the Conquest route.

>>538256541
>if other vn dev made that much money then industry would be saved
no one cares about your worthless garbage slop

>>538256645
This is the level this thread has degraded to, huh?

>>538256806
I still debate if you can call them VNs. Because you get CGs and the talking faces bits and stuff. There's at least elements and I wouldn't argue it's purely a VN.

>>538256806
On all levels except physical I am Noire.

>>538256650
It's not a VN.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2143680/

>>538256946
So you also have a hotter sister who's a gun nut?

>>538256834
I don't even understand why you are getting aggresive I am simply saying that if the average vn dev made around 15 million dollar per game then we wouldn't have so many devs going bankrupt or doing gacha

>>538256917
I'm gonna go ahead and call you retarded.

>>538256845
It's pretty basic knowledge, anon.

>>538256962
It has around utawarerumono and baldr sky amount of gameplay it is a vn

https://vndb.org/v38886

>>538257005
>we wouldn't have so many devs going bankrupt
because they'll just make more slop for zoomers?

>>538257012
I wouldn't debate this if Galaxy Angel and tokimeki weren't on VNDB. Half of those games are RPG fuckery. The joys of western labels on Japanese media. Although I think they use VN now too.

>>538256917
It's called a JRPG.

>>538257114
Galaxy Angel is a VN, retard.

>>538257050
No, you're simply wrong. If it was a CG it wouldn't be using the normal game sprites. You don't know what a CG is.

>>538257102
>It has [...] gameplay
So it's not a VN.
I don't care about the vndb trannies who count all kind of random shit VNs.

>>538257206
>>538257050
It's a CG, and you're wrong.

>>538257110
You're going to die before me, uncle

>>538257276
I'm 40 and I'm still alive

>>538257110
I don't understand do you just don't want new kamige lmao

>>538257356
I want kamige. I just don't want shit made by zoomer devs.

>>538257221
This is what I am getting at with the neptunia thing. When is gameplay too much gameplay.

>>538257421
If the gameplay is integral to the story, it's a JRPG. If it's tacked on to the VN just to pad the runtime, it's a VN.

>>538257406
In order to get new kamige you need to have a budget.
If making 5 slop games for zoomers result in budget for 1 kamige then you should accept it

>>538257275
If it's a CG then literally any normal part of the game using sprites is a CG, which would mean there's no distinction between the normal mode of a game and when a CG is being displayed. You're fucking stupid.

>>538257514
No one is reading your zoomerge sloppa though. You're just wasting your time.

>>538257564
>CG = computer graphics
All computer generated images are CGs.

>>538257564
>normal part of the game using sprites is a CG
That's exactly what a CG is, retard.

>>538257680
In VN terminology event CG are standalone images while the usual sprites on top of a background do not count.

>>538257579
I am just saying, if you want kamige then you need to let zoomer devs make zoomerge for zoomers.

>>538257835
>event CG are standalone images
Which is also what the sprites are.

>>538257835
It's a CG, retard.

>>538257756
That's not how the term is used regarding VNs. It means this, basically >>538257835. That's simply what it means regarding this medium. If you want to talk about some other type of game then say whatever you want, but this is how VNs are discussed and refer to themselves. It's why games have things called "CG Galleries" which only contain that type of image.

Just finished higurashi and now I want to write a visual novel

Also what visual novel should I read next ?

I have bokuten, wonderful everyday, umineko, heart of the woods, more lesbian ones

How many new fags have entered this place to the point we have to discuss basic terminology

>>538257963
If you were right then you wouldn't be having this argument, which suggests you're wrong.

>>538258028
Read lesbian one

>>538258028
Eroge!

>>538258030
Why are you so mad

>>538258070
>>538257963
>>538257835
>CG = CG gallery = sprites on BG are standalone images
>CG = computer graphic
Are you an ESL who just learned english 2 days ago and thinks that's what CG stands for?

What is a visual novel?

>>538258160
I am just curious since new fags are good thing for the revenue

>>538258070
It's not my fault that you don't have any knowledge of terminology related to this medium. I'm trying to educate you but you're a very stubborn zoomer.

>>538258278
Western term for PNG text adventure games from Japan.

>>538258287
>try to educate me
>gives me something that's completely wrong

>>538258278
A visualisation of a novel.

>>538258280
this, the more newfags the better. I will never stop recommending uminegro and subahibi to every new anon

>>538258323
Literally nothing I said is wrong. You can say that a CG is literally any computer graphic all you want, but that's not what the term means in relation to VNs. It's like how they tend to call visual novels ADV games, short for adventure game, but we don't conceive of an adventure game as being the same thing. They call these standalone images in VNs "CGs" or "event CGs", and so that's what it means in relation to VNs.

>>538258456
>that's not what the term means in relation to VNs
Then explain it in terms that makes sense to me and prove me wrong

>>538258456
You're wrong though I have 15 years experience in this medium.

happy anniversary!

>>538258510
They mean CG like in a movie.

>>538258510
I just did. If you want me to be more technical, it's medium-specific jargon. Do you know what jargon is? CG is part of VN jargon and has a certain meaning in relation to VNs that it doesn't have elsewhere.
>>538258579
I started reading VNs before you then.

>>538258618
>medium-specific jargon
I hate this shit, why can't we just have real words instead of stupid made up words that people use just because they are too lazy to describe something properly

thoughts on hatoful boyfriend?

Kill yourself, Emiya Shirou.

Poop

>>538258618
Just because VNs have this terminology doesn't mean that we shouldn't question it or find out whether it's actually accurate.

"Never kill yourself"
or
"Killing is bad"

I feel like my sister intentionally takes way too long to get ready so I end up reading the retardation on this thread as a form of esoteric punishment.

>>538257221
If it's on VNDB, it's a visual novel
Like it or hate it, sorry bro we don't make the rules

>>538258761
What does it matter? These games get made in Japan and they have their own terminology they want to use for these things, and they've been using it for a long time and aren't going to change. You and I don't factor into any of it.

>>538258928
IDBLT

Is this the worst visual novel ever?

>>538259053
What the fuck are you playing?

>>538258980
I don't care about their terminology. I'm talking about whether or not it's accurate in terms of defining whether or not something is a visual novel.

>>538259089
looks like ai somnium

>>538259121
Yeah it's pretty clearly a shit game

>>538255891
I speak for everyone when I say static > live2d

>>538259187
No fun allowed.

Ain't finna lie? i do be thinking that Keyno won

>>538259187
You forgot the most important one
>3D

>>538259253
No cap frfr,

>>538259110
Well a VN doesn't have to have CGs, it can just use sprites. Hell it doesn't actually have to use sprites, that's just conventional. There's a thing in Japan called a "sound novel".

>>538259253
keyGODS run this general

>>538259253
Little Babies lost to MajiKINO

>>538259187
>live2d
These are 3d animations though, no? >>538255891

>>538259354
It's 2D assets with a bunch of camera trickery.

>>538259337
The Majikoi girls look fucking awful

>>538259420
It's 3D animation though, no?

>>538259337
They are different and both are good
>>538259421
Nah, especially compared to Little Busters

>>538259420
yeah but thats still 3D

>>538259529
>They are both good
No, only little busters is.

>>538259474
I don't really care. I think it is well done animation. Take it as it is.

How do I cope with the fact flatties will grow up and most likely will have big boobs in the future?

>>538259654
>Take it as it is
As a 3D animation?

>>538259421
It's fine if you think that but don't expect everyone else to have that same homosexual opinion.

>>538259683
There's nothing wrong with big boobs.

>>538259683
Here's a hint.

>>538259747
>homosexual opinion
I'm straight though?

>>538259842
You display homosexual behavior.

>>538259902
Maybe on planet faggot

>>538259902
what's wrong with that?

Crazy how some anons say bad stuff about Keyno... guess /vn/ is filled with non-adults?... am sure they will regret it later when they become adults... if only they could delete their old posts... but the archives will stand as witnesses to the atrocities they used to say and how much immature they used to be... the first step to turn into a fine adult? appreciating how kino, Key is... they are indeed Keyno~

>>538257458
>>538257458
>If it's tacked on to the VN just to pad the runtime, it's a [bad] VN

Is there genuinely a gameplay VN you've enjoyed that had a narrative focus? Muramasa comes to mind as a story to can explore on different paths but I don't think it suceeded.

more like gayno lmaooo

>>538260039
Key is shit and I'm an adult so I disagree.

>>538260039
*KeyKINO

>>538260039
Keyno lost. Majikino won.

>>538260039
>t. @_@

>>538260048
Majikoi has a good amount of gameplay and the story's great.

Key's early games (Kanon, Air, Clannad, Little Busters) are better than 99% of other VNs.

>>538260408
maybe on planet where only keyshit exists

>>538260408
Maybe on planet retard

>>538260408
Wrong. They're better than 0% because they're shit.

can she really

>>538260456
>>538260479
>>538260523
Please don't reply to me if you're going to say things that are dumb and wrong, thanks.

Key's later games (Angel Beats!, Summer Pockets, HBR, anemoi) are better than 99% of other VNs.

Brocon imoutos are the best!

>>538260553
I'm saying things that are smart and right.

>>538260564
>90% of other VNs
Maybe on planet trash

Gookmoot needs to bring the IP counter back, I can't tell how many of you motherfuckers are robots anymore. What if I'm the only real person? What if I've been the only person the whole time for months, maybe more than a year?

>>538260408
I mean, sure? There are a lot of vns. If I say only 0.1% of humanity cares about me that's still like 8000000 people

>>538260039
The thing about not a lot being adults is probably true. I wager about 30% of posters are under 20.

>>538260663
You're not real, you're just a figment of my imagination

>>538260663
There needs to be a unique ID for each poster each thread, like on /bant/ etc.

>>538260663
When will you blogpost Grisaia Makinaswiss

>>538260710
I don't think anyone would argue that. The question is what does it matter?

>>538260830
I'm not Makinasis, and I can't blogpost Grisaia, for I have already finished the trilogy and have no desire to reread it yet.

>>538260795
that's gay though

>>538249319
Great, though I prefer plotge

>>538260963
>I'm not Makinasis
Who is then

>>538261000
>Great, though I prefer plotge
You should try out some moege.

>>538261000
Based plotCHAD

Nukitashi got looots of things that make me want to read it... but the fact that the girls are not pure is a real turn down... am not a moebuta at all, and i do mainly read plotge so am used to NTR at this point... but it's still disgusting me and i can't self-insert as them at all... i can never see myself as a cheap girl

>>538261275
>but the fact that the girls are not pure is a real turn down
That's because you have a weak mind.

>>538261275
All the heroines in game 1 are pure.

>>538261275
I don't really like NTR either, but Nukitranny is a very good vn, and worth a read. Just get over your hangups and read it.

>>538261275
>but i can't self-insert as them at all
That's the whole point. You're supposed to laugh at the nukitashi characters for being disgusting sluts who deserve their fates.

>>538261275
A /vn/poster told me all main heroines are virgins and I believe them

>>538261275
You don't have to self insert into a VN to enjoy it.

>>538261479
this is a lie though

To enjoy a NTRge to its fullest potential, you must learn the ability to self-insert into every single character

>>538260795
but how will I spam blonde meido then?

>>538261598
>you must learn the ability to self-insert into every single character
This is what makes Muramasa special

NTR chuds > virgin trannies

>>538261613
>blonde meido
who?

>>538261684
The only Muramasa fan I know who likes NTR is a trans woman.

Imagine if this were true... Ear whispering kuudere twinjob...uoh...

>>538261684
>muramasa
>special
kill yourself

>>538261275
You are a moebuta

>>538261849
No buhi~ am a plotCHAD btw...

>>538261849
So euphoria is really a dark moege, huh... then i guess i am a moebuta!!!

>>538261886
plotCHADS love used goods heroines thoughever

>>538261996
Yes, it's a moege with a dark twist.

>>538261996
>dark moege
Doesn't exist.

>>538262004
Plotgods love a good PLOT. The heroine is secondary to the story, though a pure love (ideally between blood relatives) is preferred

>>538261825
if nothing at least I know you're real blogsis

>>538262114
TRVTH SUPERNOVA

>>538262114
>though a pure love (ideally between blood relatives)
What if the blood-related heroine was used goods? Would it still count as pure love?

>>538262114
I love used goods and NTR

I'm beginning to believe moebutas are the one who are cucks.

>>538262114
>heroine is secondary to the story
This is the mark of a kusoge.

Sleep americans

Americans are the only saviors of this thread

>>538262372
They are, that's why they are called moeTRASH.

>>538247037
takeru looks like such a moron

>>538262446
>>538262501
Burger here, I just woke up.

>>538262501
This, but Indians.

>>538262545
Welcome back king

>>538262545
BurgerGODS run this general

AI and MTL won.

>>538262705
Yeah we all know, but what does that have to do with VNs?

>>538262705
Because of this I now have so many VNs to read that I can't choose which one to read

>>538262705
MTLbros... we made it?

kiminozo getting re-released with everything added back in apparently

So fucking unprompted and out of nowhere

>>538262114
Good stories almost always are made great by the quality of the character writing. Moege's greatest sin is having shallow protagonists. A plotge with weak heroines is no better.

Nobody cares.

>>538262918
The best plotges have shallow protagonists

>>538262301
The ultimate heroine is your blood related mother, there's no way she can't be used goods, therefore a used-goods heroine is not only acceptable but in this case, preferred.

This is the ascended form of thinking plotgods have reached.

>>538262918
This is why all plotge with a good protagonist are great like Umineko, Muramasa, Dies Irae, Higurashi, F/SN

BLACK SHEEP TOWN TL doko...

Fuck lolis.

>>538263015
That's the cuck logic.

>>538263019
>Higurashi, F/SN
Stopped reading here.

>>538262876
Why wasn't it in there the first time? Tell me it wasn't because of payment processor bullshit, please.

>>538263015
I wish I were your blood-related mother.

Without a doubt, she's evil

>>538263132
Yeah, it was because of payment processors.

>>538258895
Kiss your sister

>>538263247
>evil
she's just dumb

The Flowersisters have gone into hibernation it seems

>>538263361
I'm still here, but it's been a bit too hot for me to read anything lately...

>>538263361
we're just busy reading our VN bro

>>538263132
i dont know the exact story but they haven't been releasing eroge for a while, only until recently something happened where they're able/chose to now

>>538263361
what are you talking about? we are all here

>>538263361
I have been going outside to touch and smell flowers

>>538263461
Did they get a new payment processor or what?

>>538263395
>>538263451
>>538263489
>>538263509
If you're here then post the wheelchair girl. She was cute

>>538263509
Flowers are gay.

>>538263610
I don't read cripple porn.

>>538263610
>She was cute
She's the ugliest girl in the game.

>>538263610
why would we share our erika-chan with a boy?

>>538263814
I'm a woman

>>538263558
No clue, there is a new brand aNTIQ Games that has the rights to sell âge games with all the content in now. I dont actually know if it was ever a payment processor problem

>>538263923
That's pretty fucked up if they didn't just fix whatever it was

>>538263509
Bro, flowers are plant dicks

>>538264117
They're also a beautiful representation of femininity and life.
It's a shame about the dicks though.

>>538264117
What are bees then

thinking of reading either noraneko or wagamama on PSVita which one should I pick up first lads?

>>538264250
cock sucking animals.

>>538264250
cock sucking insects

I want a flowersis to suck me off while I sniff their hair

>>538264250
cock sucking sluts

>>538264405
this but a muramasa sister

>>538264405
you have to go outside for that

>>538264405
That sounds kinda gross

>heroine smells flower
Literally NTR

>>538264654
this but heroine smells shit

>Heroine is aware of the existence of men other than me
buhi.....

Are there any more VNs where I can blast the heroines with a decommissioned tank's 75mm main armament for disobeying me?

>there are other men in the story
Literally ntr

The image posting ratio of this thread is 15.6%. That's even worse than yesterday! You all disappoint me. NOW POST SOME CUTE GIRLS!

>heroine was created using sperm that came from another man's ochinchin
Literally NRT

>>538264921
(You)

>ice cream during winter
women are hard to understand

>>538264843
Muramasa

>>538264921
Visualize yourself

>>538265026
You don't have to reply to me! Just post cute girls!

Baked beans in tomato sauce

>>538264921
Posting this cute Ratka

>>538265168
My wife is so beautiful bros....

>>538264921
>Kyou

>>538265259
What does this have to do with visual novels?

Margo's voice impressions might be my favorite part of the trials

>>538265128
She really is

>>538265345
Kyou and Kotomi deserved an after story more than Tomoyo did

>>538265582
No? Lmao

>>538264921
I'm not posting a single cute girl.

>>538265582
kotomi is a slut

>>538265635
Yes?

>>538265680
You gonna post two?

>>538265141
Muramasa already did ALL the good ideas, huh?

>>538265851
Nah, I'll just leave.

>>538265582
I don't know if I agree. Tomoyo is only heroine in the game other than Nagisa that really intersects with Tomoya's past and everything. He actually feels like his real character in her route, but it was written by Jun Maeda (unlike Kyou or Kotomi) so I guess that makes sense.

I love Karen

>>538265890
Muramasa did all the good ideas and the bad ideas.

Remove rape and ntr from masa and it becomes reddit the vn LMAO

>>538265890
I was thinking about the same thing the other day. Muramasa is like Fate/Stay Night: it's the peak of the medium, but it also exhausted all the good ideas for future VNs.

>ctrl f lime
>no results

>>538266073
>Fate/Stay Night: it's the peak of the medium
lol

BOCCHI THE ROCK!

wtf is this retardation. thats so fucking dumb

>>538266073
Fate is better

>>538266073
>it exhausted all the good ideas for future VNs.
Maybe on planet retard.

>>538265680
Post cute guys then! I don't care!
>>538265962
Kotomi's entire route drama focuses on their past together, though. Plus, wouldn't it be fun to see Kotomi as an overworked PhD student? Tomoya could take a job as a firefighter or maybe a park ranger.

>>538266073
>Fate/Stay Night: it's the peak of the medium
maybe in the planet sleeping pills

>>538266015
remove rape and ntr and it becomes kamige the vn

Really organic muramasa posting

>type-shit hours
guess we will be leaving the thread of couple of hours till the good posters are back...

>>538266427
>the good posters
?

>>538266383
>Tomoya could take a job as a firefighter or maybe a park ranger.
He should have been a farmer instead

>>538266468
sorry to clarify i mean when the JOPs wake up

>>538266383
>Tomoya could take a job as a park ranger.
He'd get fired as soon as someone sees him on duty.

>>538266510
JOP here, I am awake.

>>538266383
>Kotomi's entire route drama focuses on their past together, though.
But what does it have to do with Tomoya's past other than his interactions with her? He has plenty of his own troubles and problems, some of which she could probably relate to, but none of it is brought up at all.

>>538266510
>JOPs
?

>>538266383
>Post cute guys then!

>>538266510
JOPs are the worst posters here

Here are your cute guys

>>538266510
>when the JOPs wake up
JOPs don't sleep

is muvluv total eclipse any good

but they do have that kinda insane regeneration because we saw it happen? hello? game are u ok? Did you just look at your own plot and point out a plothole? Or is it just saying they don't actually regenerate and are just alive in pieces? that might be even dumber lol

>>538266980
Is that a man or a woman?

>>538266980
>or is it just saying they don't actually regenerate and are just alive in pieces?
It doesn't say that. It specifically says they regenerate, which would imply that the regenerating parts would be connected to the body. The wording is just very confusing.

>>538266980
It's a translation issue.

>>538266980
The first thing to hit me about saiban was how fucking dumb he is

>>538267072
Margo's denying their regeneration though? There's no way for that sentence to not point out a plot hole in why they execute them to begin with. Might aswell rephrase it to them realizing there's no need for this entire killing if they can just inflict a wound to check and derail the entire trial. Its insanely retarded.

>>538267313
Why do you care about the trial? You're supposed to be enjoying the characters and the setting, not finding inconsistencies.

>>538266642
You're right. I just wish Kotomi got more love...

>>538266642
Tomoya is a lazy fuckass nigga

>>538267456
I liked her a lot as well and I've read her route twice. However, I do think that, in a certain way, the only routes in Clannad that are important on a character level are Nagisa and Tomoyo. Those are the only routes where Tomoya's character is fleshed out, as the writers other than Maeda have a tendency to make him into a more generic protagonist. Tomoyo and Nagisa are the only heroines that know about his home life, they're the only heroines that ever meet his father, etc. Some of the other heroine routes are good, don't get me wrong, and they help flesh out the world and some of the supernatural stuff, but Tomoya as a character is one of the most important parts of the story (ultimate it's really about him), so having that aspect neglected isn't a good thing. Maybe that's the most you can do though without feeling like you're rehashing the same kind of material, I don't know. But I do think only Tomoya and Nagisa getting after stories was appropriate on account of this.
>>538267551
It's kind of funny how the anime whitewashed him a bit to make him come off as a better person.

>>538267714
>ultimate it's really about him
That's because it's a shit route.

>>538267714
>ultimate it's really about him
I don't get your point here. Tomoya is the main character of all the routes, he's the MC and he's never not relevant to the plot.

>>538265264
Can I have her without the ojiisan in the background?

>>538265264
>>538267925
Kek my sides.
That image is very SUSSY

Any figure collector anons here? Have there been any recent eroge (specifically lolige) figure announcements recently?

>>538267714
>ultimate it's really about him
No it's not.

You know how Tomoyo's entire screentime in the After Story anime is her looking at a random beach for like 5 seconds with no lines
Yeah she deserves Tomoyo After

>>538265013
I like the art style, the expressions are really cute, but why'd they have to give them gross lips?

now that shit posters are gone we all agree that Beato is a real woman?

>>538268107
>but why'd they have to give them gross lips?
because you're gay and want to suck them?

>>538265013
ABdul's childhood friend soon to be wife doesn't have allat

>>538268124
Does it matter whether she's cis or trans? We're not chuunichuds to care about that shit

>>538268124
Beatrice is a boy who likes to dress like a girl.

>>538268124
My problem I have with you insisting that she is a real woman is that there's no problem with her being a trans woman. It doesn't make her less of a woman and if anything just makes you look like one of the shitposters you hate so much. You can argue with the narrative, if you'd like.

>>538267863
I'm talking about the overall story of the game, not a specific route.
>>538267897
Is Kotomi's route really about Tomoya or is it about Kotomi? Is Fuuko's route about Tomoya or is about Fuuko? He's important there but it's really about their own problems being resolved rather than his.
>>538268052
It is. He's the one who has to come to terms with society and become part of it. He's the one who hates the town (his family) and has to learn to be part of a family and everything that comes with that, the good and the bad. Hell that's his first line of narration after the intro: "I hate this town."

>>538268228
I'm only interested in real women.

>>538268315
>It doesn't make her less of a woman
Yes it does. If she was born a man then she'll always be a man.

>>538268018
I mean, besides Sord not really.... it's super barren out there, lately... you're better off trawling for figures of like, Bache from AL or something if you want loli figures nowadays, sadly.

>>538268327
Play muramasa or something then chud

>>538268315
This.

>>538268404
Not a fan of chuuni right-wing propaganda that defends nazis.

>>538268483
Luna...

>>538268315
It's not a question of her identity, it's a question of her gender. Beatrice is a man.

>>538268404
>play tranny shit
no

ok but how the fuck did she use her magic on her and place her on the platform if she didn't go through the door herself? And if she could go through that door why would she cut her up and move her through the peephole if she could just go through the door?
Heights of retardation

>>538268327
>>538268375
>>538268516
Reread Umineko.

>>538268107
The art would be better with proper lips, also smaller eyes and a more defined nose like this.

You guys didn't tell me Muramasa had funny faces... I thought it was just a bunch of stoic warriors standing and staring at each other in wheat fields....

>Mystery
>Magic
Don't do this lads. Writing 101

>>538268516
People can not identity as the gender they're assigned at birth.

>>538268570
meant for >>538268587

When I started out this hobby, clannad was one of my favorite ge of all times
Years later, I come back and it hit me like a truck that the story as a whole was mid as fuck and I was just too new to realize

>>538268628
I think you accidentally posted the wrong image, this looks disgusting, and like shit.

>only now after all this time arguing insanity it's been brought up that she had no alibi
Right. yikes.

>>538268628
Holy sexo stomach!

>>538268657
They can but they won't be a woman.

>>538268628
Disgusting fat tranny

>>538268641
We did back in 2009.

>>538265182
For me, it's autistic burger girl

>>538268713
This artstyle looks great. More anime girls should have faces like this.

>>538268713
What are you, a fag?

>>538268887
This is one of the ugliest faces I've seen this year

>>538268628
Sei Shoujo = GOD

>>538268887
And dicks

>>538268887
baited nobody award
>>538268909
the guy in that picture literally has a penis

>>538268887
>>>/aco/weg

VN equivalent of this?

>>538268987
You are the one with the penis, faggot.

>>538268887
i can fap to this

>>538268928
Turn on your monitor

>>538269042
And same gender btw

>>538268849
>Autistic burger girl
I will now play your game.

>>538269080
turn on your brain

>>538269070
You're gay

>>538268928
They look great.

>>538268935
Yes.