Thread 538258063

Exalted with /wpsg/ Edition

>News
30/08/2025 : Blizzard is taking legal action against Turtle. This doesn't stop the server, but it may impact some individuals working for Turtle under US jurisdiction ( https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdf )
17/08/2025 : Turtle's new realm Ambershire is out along Epoch's Kezan, Gurubashi and Menethil!
15/08/2025 : Turtle Wow has just released 3 zones, 2 leveling dungeons, MC extension and bosses changes, new items and updated loot. Updated classes, rated PvP arenas and more!

>Released Servers ranked by current global popularity
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net/ (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future)
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)

>Guilds
To join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite once you're above level 5.
- Turtle WoW, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /wpsg/'s guild
- Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, /heals/'s guild (ERP) >>>/trash/heals
- Turtle WoW, Nordanaar realm, crossfaction
- Bronzebeard+, Ascension, whisper Kott

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX

>Previous Thread
>>538122162

First for high elves

What are human male twink healsluts made for?

>>538258365
femhorde tanks

>wake up
>already hard from having a dream that I played Turtle together with a troon irl and she facefucked me after we finished Deadmines
I think this server might've turned me slightly gay desu

>>538258330
Made for human men

>>538258542
Race and Class?

>>538258990
Fem helf mage

>>538258330
I won't see you end as ashes. *sniff*
You're all diamonds.

hehe, Bigsneed hehe

How I feel plainsrunning with my tauren

>>538260042
>You are afraid of high speeds, better learn Riding first!

>warrior died AGAIN in hc
man... i dont think im cut out for this shit

>>538260724
>level 60
>still can't afford the riding lessons

>>538261349
howd it happen, nonny?

>>538261748
naga cave in darkshore. hyperspawns and fucking hamstring has a cooldown for some reason

>>538261349
Now you can roll a Paladin and never look back

Damn, HC players are assholes. Overleveing a zone by 10 levels.

>>538264126
hardcore is the lamest thing around it just makes players play so overly cautious that they do stupid shit like that

>>538264126
i have a lot of respect for warriors that do it
other classes? not so much

>>538264309
It's more a particular issue with Turtle because quests don't go grey until you're over 20levels above the recommended level. It's nice for any other gamemode.

Northwind sucked and I spent two minutes on Balor before abandoning all the quests and hearthing.

>>538264778
>Northwind sucked
Why? I love the zone

>>538264831
Ugly, bad music, bad writing, stupid quests.

>>538262220
>cave

>>538262220
>for some reason
pvp

>>538262220
>naga

>>538262220
One thing you gotta learn about turtle WoW warrior PVE in the early levels is to hamstring early.
Waiting to hamstring just as the mob runs can get you killed if it miss/dodge/parry

>>538265360
Be specific nonny.

>>538265773
Pvp in Turtle is deader then dead and Hamstring never had a CD even when Blizzard tried to turn Arena into a real esport back in Wrath-MoP era

>>538266652
>Pvp in Turtle is deader then dead
yet it has faster queues than all blizzard classic realms in all brackets

>>538266959
Why are you making stuff up on the lords day

>>538262220
Caves = Graves

>>538267036
>tell the truth
>"hurr durr why u make it up!"
lol

>>538267036
I've been getting into games non-stop at 2X and 3X

SW Vault anyone?

>>538268465
ho ahhh nigga

>>538268465
pretty

>>538268465
You got revered with Wardens of Time already???

>>538269016
ominous nigga with no life:

is it worth starting a char on turtle or is going to be taken down soon?

>>538268465
to lock you up in one of the cells and use you as a fuckslave, right?

>>538268465
you look nice! Level not high enough yet unfortunately. But I'd like to play with you sometime.

Faction rep actually giving you endgame/midgame gear, together with gray quests giving full rep on Turtle is a major problem.
There are level 30+ powergamer nerds swarming the elf starting zone to farm rep...

>>538268465
WOAH MOMMA!

What is it we love about female dwarfs?

>>538270745
Loser.

>>538272434
everything
now gen and catbox her fucking

>>538260724
I thought you started with Plainsrunning at creation and it scaled up in speed based on your level? Unless you're talking about twow and not wallcraft

>>538262220
hamstring has a cooldown on turtlewow? that's actually retarded, why would the devs do that

>>538273391
Their paladin and shaman mains were killed too often in pvp.

>Unless you're talking about twow and not wallcraft
yeah we're all talking about wallcraft, this is the wallcraft general, we don't play twow

Could someone donate me 60g on turtle wow?

>>538274046
no

>>538274046
i can give you 2 or 3

the bones say it's was a male

i wanna lick her abs

I'd play a human if they looked like this.

For turtle, Combat or Assa Rogue?
>inb4 useless either way

>>538274374
>resource bar visible while outside of combat
disgusting

>>538268465
Built for BBC+

>>538275040
it's a Dota style bar, as minimal as the bars gets

>find black lotus in the wild
>priest fighting a mob on top of it, probably a herbalist
>...
>start picking it
>decide nah and back up, she (male) gets it after mob is dead

Man I'm such a good guy

>>538275170
I know, I use those too
turn it off outside the combat

>>538274374
I saw Tgirlhighelf dead in redridge the other day...
This player SUCKS

>>538274512
I would erp with a human if they looked like that

>>538276673
I wanna watch her get orc bred

>run to the other side of the map and kill 30 assholes
>"Zugzug anon! Now it's time for Part 2 of the quest where you kill the boss who is deep in the cave/fort behind 30 goons you need to kill again!"
Bitch why not give me both quests?

>>538277108
Peak quest design

>>538277108
Classic

>>538275194
;3c

>>538276849
Goblin post

>>538276849
alliance only

race/class for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14__Kf5ot-8&list=RD14__Kf5ot-8

>>538279471
high elf x

And how do you feel about draenei, dwarfanon?

>>538281272
I can see a nipple and 6 fingers on that Draenei. Did a gen like that before.
https://files.catbox.moe/dy3hvi.png
As far as my taste for Draenei goes they look nice but awfully out of place in Warcraft. Especially with all that futuristic armor on.

>want to play turtle
>no point since its gonna be shut down
baka

>>538281837
Well, shit. Guess I'll see you in three days. Also, while I don't want to admit it, you're completely right. Draenei and all this outer space shit really ruined the feel of Warcraft, at a certain point.

But it's fine. They're sexy space women. I like them.

>>538281985
playing a video game is supposed to be fun, not an investment for the future, baka

>>538281272
hot if on dwarves, now gen dwarf porn

>>538282314
God I love girls with fat cocks

I don't like the way turtle does jewelcrafting. It's basically just blacksmithing with different recipes.

>>538282306
yeah but i should be able to end things on my own terms instead of hoping i dont get evicted in the middle of trying to have fun

Day two of farming Spine of Dentarg from Stormwrought. I will try at least one run a day.

>>538282482
I noticed that too. Why the fuck would Jewelcrafting have armor and weapons you can make. I can understand baubles like necklaces and rings.
Speaking of BS, I wish some of these belt buckles were easier to grind/acquire.

>>538282531
the servers closing isn't somthing for the short future, even in the worst case scenario for turtle, the US justice system is very slow

>>538282802
>>538282482
The armors they can make are cloth head items, and cloth bracers, and the weapons two-hand staffs, I think it has a strong identity

Day 92 of waiting for my bro to quit retail and return to turtle

Day 93 of waiting for my bro to rape me and force me to play Turtle again under his desk

Day 167 of I still miss playing together with them...

>Paladin gets on his horse and immediately leaves with zero comment
*sucks teeth* Yeaaaaaah... I'm gonna assume he didn't appreciate dying twice to the same Elite
In my defense the second death was hyper spawning mobs appearing mid fight. The first death was legit, I wasn't expecting half his bar to suddenly get chunked

>tank spergs out over hunter pulling an extra pack
>remains quiet when he fucks up on a boss
anyone else hate faggots like this?

>>538286891
people are hypocrites, get over it you robot

>>538282314
I can't, anon. It's not my interest. All of the dwarf RPers on Epsi are some weird amalgamation of trans or nonbinary, and I fucking hate them bringing real world issues into my fantasy game about sexy people.

>>538287258
dwarf rpers... on epsi...? do they... erp?

>>538268465
Dire Maul North now :)

>>538287182
eat my entire ass, buddy

>>538287834
I need to cum in a tranny so bad

>all raids completed
>all world bosses killed
what to do now?

>>538287834
It's just not attractive dude. I don't know what to tell you. Good luck though.

>>538288023
If it's not Hardcore Warmode then it unironically doesn't count

>>538288023
roll on next fresh

>>538287726
Yes. The dwarf bitches are hot... if not for the fact that they make being trans their entire identity.

>>538288445
i don't fucking care if they're trans i'm erping with the dwarf not the guy behind the pc

where is the ERP scene in warmane, i need someone to fuck me

>>538288598
The server is 90% Slavs that only care about wpvp and ICC, you won't find any ERP

>>538288537
You misunderstand. Many RPers treat their characters AS them. The character is an extension of the person. The dwarf is trans and has a feminine penis, and you must respect it. Atlernatively, the nonbinary dwarf refuses to talk to you until you say 'they' instead of he and compliment on how his beard looks beautiful hanging on his moobs.

>>538288670
fucking hell, which private server has the most ERP then

>>538288718
Not him but people that self insert as their character in RP and can't separate real life from fantasy are dogshit RPers who should be avoided.

>>538288828
Probably Turtle

>>538288964
this close to making a char there just to get to goldshire and have my mind pounded out of me
my bf has a cuck fetish

>>538288718
their xoobs

>>538289513
Was this really necessary?

>>538289513
>>538290026
yes

HERE COMES THE MONEY

>>538290815
gz on your 2 gold

>>538291382
It was _5 actually!!

Onward, to level 60!

Why the fuck are people so obsessed with Draenei girls having horsecocks? What drives a man to see a pretty girl and think
>Yeah. Could be better with a horse cock though.
Mental illness

>>538292968
>trannies out of nowhere

>>538287834
It's attractive dude. That's what i wanted to tell you. Good luck!

>>538292968
Horse cocks are hot, draenei are hot. Not hard to figure out.

>>538293143
>out of nowhere
>>538282314

>>538292968
my best understanding of said mental illness is that they are an alien race so augmenting them with outlandish horsecocks is applicable.
i feel sorry for all the straight people who like draenei that get lumped together with these loons

>>538292968
people that like futa are not human

how do I make money as MM hunter? I can't grind mobs because I deal way more threat than my pet, I can't play the AH because I don't have recipes and I can't do raids because I already did them.

>>538294263
Where's your brainwasher nonny?

>>538294589
brainwasher requires g which I do not have. can't you read?

>>538268465
dogshit tmog

>>538294664
When i leveled i had enough gold just from doing dungeons and questing, are you that poor?

>>538294810
I wisely decided to invest all my gold into enchantments and consumables

>>538294263
play the fucking game
form a group and spam ud strat
profit

>>538294998
it's over

>>538287834
>>538268465
hint: real women dont dress like that

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s happening, it really is. People are talking about it all over the world, the Molten Core. Tremendous raid, some say the greatest of all time. And I’m telling you right now, nobody, and I mean nobody is going to clear it faster, better, or with more style than . Believe me.

The other guilds? Total disasters. They wipe, they cry, they go on the forums. Sad! But , they’ve got the best tanks, the best healers, incredible DPS. Many people are saying they do yuge damage, the best damage anyone’s ever seen. Ragnaros? He’s a hot mess, folks, and he’s going down. Fast.

And let me tell you something: when they get world first, it’s going to be beautiful. The loot? Legendary. The screenshots? Everyone will be jealous. Blizzard’s going to look at it and say, "Wow, that’s the best clear we’ve ever seen."

So mark my words, the Molten Core is going to be cleared, the world first is going to be won, and it’s going to be won by . And we’re going to make WPSG great again!

>>538295921
my man(virgin) just go to any rave party

>>538297216
>world first
>in a 20 year old raid
?

>>538295921
Hint: no one cares about real women that play Turtle WoW

>>538297562
Okay folks, I need to clear something up, because the fake news gamers, they’re all over this. They’re saying, ‘Trump said world first, he said world first.’ And let me tell you, I might have said it, maybe I did, maybe I didn’t. But here’s the thing: it’s not world first, it’s realm first. Very important distinction. Very important.

Now, did I say world first? Sure, but you know what? Everybody’s calling it world first anyway. They all want to be world first. But technically, and I’m very technical, believe me, I know the mechanics, I know the raids better than anybody - it’s realm first. That’s the big win.

Other guilds, they try to spin it, they say, "Oh, he got it wrong!" No. I didn’t get it wrong. I was testing them. I was seeing if they even know the difference. And most of them don’t. Sad!

But listen, realm first, it’s still huge. It’s bigger than world first in some ways, because it’s your realm, your people, your community. Everybody’s watching, everybody’s cheering. And is doing it. They’re not just winning, they’re dominating.

So remember: I don’t make mistakes. I make strategy. World first, realm first - call it whatever you want. The fact is, is first. And that’s all that matters. We’re number one, folks. Number one.

>>538297216
kek
based

POV: You are a high level herb and my tauren spotted you

>>538266156
Hamstring fucking sucks in Turtle.
>oops there's more than one mob on me, guess I can't escape
>parried/dodged/missed twice in a row
Most pointless and retarded nerf they could've made

>inb4 "hurdur just never fight 2+ mobs or make a mistake ever"

>>538289261
You would be the perfect dwarf RPer. Very respectful.

>>538288828
Epsilon WoW. No, really. It's nothing but (E)RPers.

>>538299914
well it wasnt fair because the devs favorite class doesnt have a snare

>>538299914
it's what you get when you let literal transsexual ERP-ers design core game mechanics. It becomes bubble-wrapped garbage meant to make no one have bad feelings.

>>538299019
tauren females are so underrated
imagine having access to fresh daily milk from your wife

>>538299914
you gotta hamstring earliy, retard.
but I don't have issues cause I'm a retard who has played warrior for 20 years so I've mastered it

You also should go fury, arms damage and abilities suck ass pre 40, piercing howl is absurdly fucking broken

>>538286891
the issue is 90% of hunters pull a extra pack with multishot and a lot of times the tank won't mention anything until the shitty hunter has done it multiple times in a row

>>538301846
hamstring shouldn't have any cooldown, twow devs are just legit retards and are no better than the assmad everquest players who joined blizzard and ruined the classes in the first place. Imagine being hamstrung by a warrior and malding so hard that you nerf the ability lmao

>>538302130
Curious warrior is the only class that reacts so negatively to any nerf

>>538302130
I main warrior and I understand why we would be broken as fuck in pvp if it didn't have one.
>get rank 14 polearm
>can now hit people 5 million miles away from us because of the new polearm spec passive
lmao

I miss him, bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-YYbM1A7s

>>538301846
You're a fucking moron, dude. Hamstringing early doesn't negate the fact that the devs hamstrung the ability itself pointlessly. It also doesn't change the significant flaws the nerf introduced. You're just a smug faggot who doesn't actually consider others' arguments.

>>538302559
>this dumb shitter dies to lvl 5 naga but wants to call me a moron
LMAOOOO bro gtfo u just suck ass LOL!!!!

I just want a cute healer (female) to farm Black Morass with...

>>538294998
>ud strat
Why UD over live which has orbs?

Anything good in Turtle for the 45-50 Range? Was thinking of checking out their new Azshara

>>538303039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekl3MbnXKns

>>538303241
Unless you haven't done Gilneas yet, not really. There's a few additions to the existing 40-50 zones but nothing interesting enough worth talking about. Once you hit 48 you can go to Lapidis/Gillijim's Isle but IMO it's on the lower end of turtle's custom content and at best it's just Stranglethorn 2.

>>538303732
I'm almost done with Gilneas actually (just need to do GC at some point). Guess I'll just finish my flight points and see what I find from there

>>538302431
>>get rank 14 polearm
>>can now hit people 5 million miles away from us because of the new polearm spec passive
That real? There's a talent to make polearms range bigger?
Might roll on twow after all

i'm downloading epsilon dwarf babes

>>538304321
Yes and if youre tauren its even bigger.

>>538304321
https://talents.turtle-wow.org/warrior (check arms)

>>538304993
You're only going to find elves and furries.

>>538304321
they literally stole it from Wallcraft (which implemented it 5 years ago lol)

I don't understand, is Wallcraft playable or not?

>>538306148
Not really, there's things you can check out but it's more like trying out an Alpha of a game. It's been in "development" for 5 years so I doubt it'll ever be ready

>>538306148
its been in development forever and has always been online and playable, but hasn't launched yet. no clue when its supposed to launch but there was some big update this week on it

>>538306148
no. its called wallcraft because it hit the wall

>want to get raped by a hung tranny that calls me slurs
>don't feel like playing on the 1.12 client anymore
Turtlebros, its over for me...

>>538306148
well the dev says it launches this year for what that's worth, he kinda reminds me of the dev of this game, love schizo devs man

>>538307636
bro, your mods?

How are the turtle dungeons and raids? are they good?

>>538308787
the bestest

>>538308787
They tried to make their own version of a level 30 BRD that falls flat.

>>538307987
Did that ever come out?

>>538308787
theyre actual hot garbage and anyone claiming otherwise is lying through their teeth or delusional. Between the encounters, the loot, the mob placement, and the physical areas, it's all amateurish garbage.

>>538308787
Stormwrought was really fucking cool. Dragonmaw was alright but needed some more work.

>>538304321
yeah it makes rogues and hunters giga rage if you run it tho

>>538309023
yeah its been out for years, apparently the game is really hard, like fuck your balance

>>538309023
new patch came out this week, launches later this year or something

>>538308787
if you like 1% epic drop rate, 0.2% mount drop rate, overtuned trash mobs, and 3 hours long dungeons, they're really good

>>538303732
New Zul'Gurub final boss is fun

>>538302431
>>538304321
polearm spec is shit though. I tested it myself, the difference is fucking minuscule. as in I was literally having trouble even identifying the difference on anything except completely stationary enemies like target dummies.

Not even close to worth it over losing out on extra swings with swords or 5% crit, not to mention the master strike for polearms is basically worthless vs roots/silence/stuns etc.

>>538309163
what makes it amateur?

>>538310886
Ah that sucks...

>>538258063 (OP)
If you had to add races to a Wrath of the Lich King Classic + is this basically all you could add?
Alliance
>Wildhammer Dwarves (Vanilla)
>High Elves (Vanilla)
>Stillpine Furbolgs (BC)
>Broken Draenei (BC)
>Frostborn Dwarves (wotlk)
Horde
>Steamwheedle Cartel Goblin Mercenary (Vanilla)
>Stonemaul Ogres (Vanilla)
>Revantusk Forest Trolls (Vanilla)
>Mag’har Orcs (BC)
>Mok’nathal (BC)
>Taunka (wotlk)

>>538311297
reskins of existing races are gay bloat, if you want them just make them cosmetic options for the existing races. furblogs are retarded and half breeds are peak fantasy cringe.

>>538311297
>Wildhammer Dwarves (Vanilla)
Just give dwarves a shaman class.

Broken could work.
Ogres definitely.
Naga could work.

>>538262220
>>538265773
>>538273391
>>538299914
except it's even stupider than that, they said they nerfed hamstring to stop people from spamming to fish for procs and overpower. so instead of just removing the trivial damage component from it making it a pure slow like they did in tbc-wrath they instead give it a cooldown, literally the worst slow ability in the game btw tied with wing clip.

>>538311297
you could do, San'layn and Earthen.
Maybe Vrykul, would fit if you added ogres.
obviously add a netureal faction filled with,
centuar, tuskar, furbolg and moonkin, obviously.

>Just healed for Stormwrought Castle
>Its been 8 hours...
>Really nice music and ambience
>Tons of variation and very nice design with its content
>But they really need to treat it more like BRD
>So you can do parts of it and don't have to clear the entire thing in one run
>Entire dungeon seems very well designed for that actually
>Shaman had a Karen moment when I informed her of the big, red slime and its story
>Left the group with a meltie
>But managed to push through and do all the content and bosses
>Very good tank
>Very good gnome dps almost as good as another gnome wizard I know
>Silent but friendly Russian tauren druid
>Overall I would rate Stormwrought castle a solid erm... 7/10
>The designs are varied and interesting but it does feel like its three dungeons stitched together
>Way too lengthy
>Some of the paths are unnecessary long and tedious
>So 3 points less
Now I'm sleepy, good night /wpsg/.

>>538312932
Is the red slime history on the Alliance side?

>>538312643
you guys are just circlejerking with this third faction bullshit. no private server will ever be capable or willing to put in the enormous amount of effort to make that work and more importantly than that people are put off by such drastic changes to the base game. And on the other hand, adding in a billion superficially different racial variants bloats the fuck out of the game for next to no benefit.
Private servers will never be able to resolve the technical problems with certain races either like naga not having a usable skeleton for player equipment and animations.

If you want to add custom races they need to be doable practically and also add something unique to the game while still working within the lore.

>>538313046
Yes, you find a toy sword in its corpse and hand it to a woman in Ambershire.

>>538312932
I miss when FGO was just spamming Dantes' NP three times
Also I had a dungeon where the priest (or mage?) had a meltdown over the paladin needing plate armor or something? idk but I saw BoE spammed in the chat followed by them pulling an entire room and wiping everyone and then both the priest and the mage leave. pretty wild

>>538313481
needing on valuable boes is a dick move though, just because you happen to be able to equip it doesn't mean that it isn't useful for any player considering its gold value. and beyond that 90% of the cunts that roll need on rare boes don't even equip it and instead sell it themselves.

>>538311587
Fair & true
>>538312223
Looking for races that were apart of horde or alliance in the lore. Not just if it could work.
>>538312643
They have be apart of a faction during the original lore up to wrath.

>Some lvl ret paladin 38 boosting his lvl 16 friend in DM
>I get in as a healer through LFG
>I get a bad feeling about it but I decide to go ahead anyways
>The ret paladin makes very big pulls while his friend pulls in patrols
I left after the second boss. Can't stand people like that, I asked him to slow down and take it a bit easier but he didnt care. We would have wiped sooner or later and I don't wanna lose exp due to some retard on a power trip.

>>538315195
weak ahhh healer

holy fuck the vanilla client is so aids, not being able to attack while mounted fucking sucks

>>538315605
Download ShaguTweaks

>>538313238
Wallcraft has all of that though, and it's super well done
>pic related, a Naga Rogue who is part of the Blackfathom faction

>>538315195
You were right to backpedal.

>>538316197
lol that just looks so stupid.

>>538316391
? You're literally complaining that no one could add naga or third factions to the game. Well, someone did it.

So how is it stupid when you're literally demanding it and claiming it's impossible to do, you contrarian retard

>>538316197
I think we have a different definition of 'well done'.

and from what I have seen of the racial abilities on wallcraft ITT, it looks like total ideas guy asscancer trash.

>>538316197
Jesus Christ buy an ad, you reply with "W-Wallcraft has this" like 5 times a day. Your server isn't even out and it's been half a decade

>>538316345
The brotherhood shall prevail!

>>538316197
seeing shit like this makes me realize how much cooler retail should look right now

but instead we get gay shit like tranny dwarfs, vulpera, gay void elves, and gay draenei

>>538316582
>N..noo don't post other servers, shenna is paying me turtlecoins to talk about troonwow futa and i don't get paid if the conversation steers away from it

>>538315605
The type to post about something like that instead of spending less time googling the solution doesn’t actually care about the solution. The goal is to complain for updoots.

>>538316576
I'm not the first one who responded to you. I'm glad you have something that is to your liking but it's not for me. I've never seen why you'd want to play these ugly ass races (almost no one does).

Thousands of bots clash as the five players on the server ignore the pointless set piece world PvP battlegrounds. Players have sworn not to kill one another to hoard loot from their rivals.
Amongst them all, VVall’s clique of Hell’s Angels white supremacist prison wives rule the world with an iron fist. His fortress in the heart of Northrend, that one must spend 300 hours grinding points for carpentry to build a boat to get to, is impregnable.

And so, surrounded by sycophants that are rejected the moment they disagree with lord VVall, our little world is secure from the tranime profile pictures that made us seethe so we ban them outright, the Euroneets that we banned on the principle of them being jobless losers, despite giving us hundreds a month to maintain our living conditions(VVall does not NEED a job, hypocrite!), and the globohomo glowies that totally exist and have poisoned the water so VVall drinks only the finest of Redbull energy drinks from his goblet to stave off our divine thirst.

>>538316197
looks like shit

>>538316859
>p-please play my dogshit that no one cares about even though I've worked on it for over half a decade guys :(
Buy an ad

>>538316197
He'll complain about boots

>>538316953
you literally are the first response to that post though, I think you're getting your samefagging confused bud.

TIME TO LVL MY MALE ORC WARLOCK ON AMBERSHIRE LETS GO!

>>538316923
I wouldn't need to install some janky mod "fix" if they simply didn't insist on using the worst, oldest, biggest piece of shit wow client ever created.

>>538317481
it's not a bug though, you're just a zoomzoom retard who probably cries about having to hold shift to autoloot. You should go play a different game, one that accommodates your kind.

>Radio playing third world music in spanish
Jesus Christ...

>>538316978
You sound like a butthurt cuck, miserable over still having to wage when others have ascended.

>>538316978
lol troon mad

>>538317641
>I want my game to have dogshit 2004 controls
does it take effort to be this embarrassing of a person or does it come naturally to you?

bronzebeard when?

>>538317673
>play on a third world server
>be surprised when third world music plays

>>538317481
This isn’t a mod issue. There are like 10 different addons with auto-dismount.

>>538317817
the controls are fine, it's your brain that isn't. Literally push one button to dismount, or install an addon like shagutweaks which does it for you. Instead you choose to cry like an absolute fuckin retard on an anonymous forum. You are beyond helping lmao.

>>538316978
>2 instant seethe replies
Looks like Wall is getting the phone out again.

>>538317920
Or they could use an actually good wow client that has it natively. But no, we have to use a shitty 1.12 client because... why exactly?

>>538318030
his prison wives...

>>538318024
>Literally push one button to dismount,
yeah really enhances your RP to have extraneous inputs required to do literally anything on 1.12 huh.
Do you also type out an elaborate RP message whenever you need to dismount?

>>538318050
because it keeps out crybaby retard trash like you, it's really that simple. Go play WotLK zoomzoom

>>538318251
Just install an addon already you whiny cunt. Or go play a server with a client that’s more to your liking. It’s really simple.

>>538318318
>I'm going to make my game intentionally bad to make the playerbase as small as possible!
good thing you aren't employed as a game developer lmao, or employed at all most likely.

>>538317673
I like a lot of the Spanish music that plays

>>538318030
Would have been better not to immediately start whining about your wageslaving duties. No one is impressed that you enjoy sucking off kikes for money. Enjoy your daily humiliation ritual. The cage awaits you in a few hours.

>>538317359
Did you do the orc lumber camp quest line? You get a 10 slot bag at the end

>haven't played wow in so long
>the itch is getting stronger and stronger
>unironically thought about playing on SF's new wotlk
I'm slowly going crazy and CoA just keeps getting delayed, while tauri Legion is nowhere near in sights

>>538318464
>the server won't be good unless it's packed to the brim with absolute retards who constantly cry and complain about inane shit
that's not how it works tho

Wall wants to be Terry A Davis so bad it's kind of embarrassing. He LARPs as a schizo but he's really just a lonely 50 year old incel who couldn't start a family in time to lead a fulfilling life. He doesn't have real programming skills like Terry, he can barely make his shitty wow scripts function properly. Let's not forget that all his "new" content is just stuff he's lifted from other projects without asking. Terry would be rolling in his grave if he knew this was his legacy.

>>538319673
right, the way it works is that the server is only good when it's you and a few dozen other weirdo lunatics who insist on preserving every last detail of a 20 year old game down to the terrible outdated controls are playing, because reminding yourself of the video games you played as a child 20 years ago is the only way you can cope with how shitty your life is right now.

It's crazy to me how wall can be so arrogant when he failed to get married and reproduce.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/1nanrgx/blizzard_is_so_petty_its_shameful/
PAID WOW SHILLS ON REDDIT WEEE WOOO WEE WOOO WEEWOO WEEEEEEE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>538320040
nigga you're literally crying about the vanilla client, you have options to resolve your issue and complaining about it accomplishes nothing but make you look like a fool. I don't know how to explain this better to you. Go play WotLK if this chaps your ass so much.

>>538320519
>browsing reddit
Go back

>>538320824
>nigga you're literally crying about the vanilla client,
yeah, because it's absolute dogshit and there is literally zero reason to use it.
go ahead and give me a reason why you would ever use that jank ass 2006 software in 2025.

Are there a lot of troons on Turtle or is it just a meme? I want a troon gf and I'm very desperate to play just for one

>>538321125
>vagueposting because I have no argument
the classic lmao

>>538321181
developer mandated troon gf on turtle?

>>538321052
okay so don't use it, go play a wrath server. how many times must you be told this

>>538321213
You should let me rape you, sissy.

if they wanted to how much effort would it be for turtle to switch to a wrath client?
t b h that would probably be a better use of their time than whatever the UE5 vaporware is.

>>538319875
What projects did wallcraft lift its content from? it all looks original as far as I've seen

>>538316197
can you show full body? where do the boots and helm go? or is it like morrowind where they don't wear it

>>538317868
end of the year

>>538322594
what do you mean where do the boots go? naga don't have feet, silly

>>538323012
put it at the end of the tail
1 boot

nagas wear the boot on their head
because of this they only get half the stats of it and can't equip helmets
also i have a fetish for ankle bracelets

>>538323012
>>538323324

>>538323012
that is pretty well done
but I guess not a lot of items look good, so surely they have transmog

Everlook bros.. look away.

>>538324491
nah everything I've tested looks perfect. theyre missing a couple animations but regardless felt really smooth and fun to play. theyre really strong underwater with passive swimspeed bonus and waterbreathing

>>538324983
what is their main racial, and do they have any performance boost passive if racial is utility?

>2 different turtle added quests in hinterlands where a bereaved wife loses le will to live and dies inexplicably

give me a break nigga

>>538325419
Just give the widows the dick

>>538325419
>people unironically read non-main story quests

>>538300274
turdle paladins had ranged snare for like over a year

>>538325145
every race has a really solid set of racials. this is from the textfile in the discord:

Naga:
Gift of the Sea (Skill): +15 Enchanting
Azshara's Blessing (Resist): Arcane Resistance increased by 1 per level.
Secrets of the Deep (Stat): Intellect increased by 5%. You are considered a Humanoid. Your health regenerates at full rate while in combat underwater.
Tideborne (Passive): Able to breathe and swim quickly underwater, but cannot ride mounts.
Slithereen (Ability): Increases your movement speed by 10% while on land for 10 seconds.
Corrosive Haze (Special): Dismounts the target, reducing their armor and preventing them from entering stealth or invisiblity.
Weapon Skills: Polearms, Daggers, Crossbows
Classes: Warrior 1 / Rogue 4 / Priest 5 / Mage 8
Languages: Nazja (300), Darnassian (200), Thalassian (200)
Faction: Blackfathom

I really like how the female naga has four arms, and uses two of them to wield weapons. The shivan warlock metamorph form does the same thing

>>538325754
Classic has a main story?

I'm doing my gacha dailies, then I'm gonna play my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf paladin on Ambershire

>>538326351
What server is this?

>>538326351
>but cannot ride mounts.
memeserver

>>538326741
wallcraft. new patch just came out with a bunch of new races to play on the PTR

>really want to play Pally on TurtleWoW
>really dig the aesthetic of big bearded dwarf decked out in chainmail with big shield and axe
>like the utility of also having heals
>like the option of being able to dip toes in all 3 roles in dungeons
>server is like 90% Paladins already
>dont want to play Druid because fuck Nelves
>never played Horde so no Shaman

>>538327170
Pop your Horde cherry
Make a shoeless zugger

>>538327170
>server is overran with Paladins and Warriors
>can never find a tank

>>538321181
no turtle is populated mostly by chad men and stacy biological women

>Northwind has jack shit in it for the horde
>Balor needs to swam to off the coast of Westfall, two zones over from the nearest horde fp
>the horde fp has a small army of stealthed rogue type enemies all around it that can disable your spells for 5 seconds twice in a fight
>the graveyard on Balor is on the central island, very close to the Alliance fp and far away from Horde fp

this is bad design

>>538327170
you will thrive if your not shit because 90% of the paladins are literal garbage tier
just go deep enough in holy for the 2nd row heal talents and you can 2h tank every dungeon up to lvl 50 with ease while topping dps and most likely even outhealing the healer on top of it

>>538326351
>Tideborne (Passive): Able to breathe and swim quickly underwater, but cannot ride mounts.
Fucking based

>>538327847
You can use the Horde base in SV to fly to Balor but everything else is correct

>>538328140
I tried both the Grom'gol fp and Booty Bay fp and neither had points to Balor, I had to swim there and unlock it first

>>538327847
>Northwind has jack shit in it for the horde
perfectly fine since this is true in reverse for almost every zone in kalimdor.

>>538328234
Weird. Maybe it unlocks at certain level.

>>538328268
fair enough but these are new zones, ideally they'd either have stuff for both factions or for every zone geared to faction a there'd be a zone geared to faction b

>>538328009
Just checked, it's 100% speed underwater which is the same as the boats. Sailing seems to be a big part of the project, and there some sort of game system involving sailing around the map to deliver shit for the goblins (while bloodsail buccaneer players try to gank them for their cargo, some high risk pvp). I think naga is gonna be the king of the seas with the ability to swim as fast as player boats and to dismount them with Corrosive Haze. Definitely gonna work on unlocking them first.

>Fight Club has many... "gamers" going to be server first for MC
the normie guild opposition is getting cocky ... evil will show them what true gaming is like ... ehhheheheheh

>>538326075
kek ive never played one so didnt know
guess its only a matter of time until they get a gap closer and polymorph immunity too

>>538326351
>no mounts
Unless the "swim quickly underwater" part is reeeally fast, this is a huge fucking drawback. I'd rather change slither into an aspect of the cheetah alternative with it giving 1% movement speed for each level while outside of combat.

>>538328581
It isn't real wow, it's some gay funserver shit, see
>>538328492
basically a sandbox for some retard's hire this man ideas. consequently it will never actually release because it's an incoherent mess of bad ideas.

>>538328581
the slithereen thing is 100% speed for 10 seconds, dunno why the notes say 10%. 1 minute cooldown too, so it seems competitive enough to catch and dismount players on land. but yeah probably not intended to spend much time up there as a naga

>>538326351
>>538328009
>>538328492
>Tideborne (Passive): Able to breathe and swim quickly underwater, but cannot ride mounts.
Imagine them being able to just swim through the deep ocean to get to the opposite continents without the use of boats, just on their own
I know the ocean map doesn't exist, you could just make it extremely widespread walk-through invisible portal that only nagas could pass due to having no fatigue

>>538328492
Buy an ad

>>538328863
yeah because autowalking to the map horizon for 10 minutes every time I want to go to another continent is something I really want to do.

>>538326351
>Intellect increased by 5%
dogshit
naga warriors are the most recognizable and iconic of them all and they decide to go with the gnome route?

>>538328863
wallcraft has big oceans that you can swim around the entire world on. I dont think its ingame currently but I was there when he did the showcase of it like two years ago. He made all 6 continents in a cube-shaped world map and all the tiles were filled with deep ocean that you could sail across. We spent like 3 hours waterwalking in a circle across the entire world starting from booty bay and back around the other side.

>>538328234
>>538328327
No, the server is just shit, talk to grom gol fp guy, then reload your UI or log in and out, and it'll work

>>538327847
>alliance zone has no horde quests
It would be really fucking weird if there was a way for level 30 horde players to even get to the zone. It's in between two alliance starting zones and next to two high level zones, so the only logical way would be via ship, but stormwind harbor is right next to it, so scrap that. There is still an unused zone next to the badlands. Maybe it'll get some more horde focused quests.
Also there is still the Grim Reaches.

>>538326625
onyxia, argent dawn etc.

>>538329219
eh it makes sense, naga are like ancient and very intelligent. But yeah it woulda been nice to have agility or strength, i wanna try a rogue and those would've been better. but I'll probably go with a mage since they have invis here

>>538329534
Naga myrmidon is almost as chonky as tauren warrior. They're absolutely heavy melee powerhouses.

>>538269869
don't bother they're shutting it down tomorrow

>>538328863
it's lookin good so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PNoeaB27Zk

>Sailing with a small 1-man boat through the ocean
Yeah that could work sure

>>538259057
WoW gamers will always choose to play paladins if they aren't deliberately kneecapped with horrendous dps. The elder gamedevs knew and understood this and that's why crusader strike was removed before release.

>>538330927
Paladin is objectively one of the clunkiest and most boring classes in vanilla. Rogue and mage are peak.

>>538330927
It really is curious what the draw paladins have on mmo players is. I guess it's a typical power fantasy for nerd losers or something, a way for them to fantasize about having the ability to project their probably idiotic extremist ideology on other people. It's telling that 99% of them play ret instead of holy, shows their interest is in the militant aspect. Being a non-ideological warrior or hunter isn't enough, they need someone that is an extreme zealot lunatic just like they would be irl if they weren't scrawny losers.

Northwind and Balor suck because they're badly made or don't adhere to traditional zone design. Not because no shoes can't do an alliance zone.

>>538331886
Northwind is great, Balor sucks. Balor is like if you intentionally tried to lay out a zone as terribly as possible, and also tried to make it as ugly as possible to boot.

post shenna's feet

>>538331857
>all these retarded assumptions and psychoanalyzing strawmen in your head
You're genuinely mentally ill.

>>538331857
did a paladin steal your gf?

>>538324983
do they have jump animations? pretty sure only mounts and player character usually have those so they'd have to be custom made. it's something players do a lot and having no animation for it looks and feels really bad.

>>538331857
bro i just play paladin because they're cool holy dude what the heck is wrong with you?

I'm almost 35 on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf paladin on turtle wow btw

Unlike wall, who is over 35(years old)

>>538333216
it seems like theyre missing jump animations. but frankly it doesn't look or feel that bad because naga have a tail anyways, so their jump looks fine with just the upwards movement

Also, I found Wall lmao

>>538333817
>whore in duskwood getting knotted

>>538333817
Asalys you have to stop.

>>538334009
Alyna is a lesbian. She only likes women and futas.

>>538333817
just a real shame you can't actually join The Night Watch and defend Darkshire against the threats of the night...

...sorta like how you can in Wallcraft...

>>538315195
nigger, why would a fucking LEVEL 38 slow down low level grays? you should have left at the first sign.

Dwarf girls :3

Love handin' in a bunch of quest at once

>>538334401
You're a mentally ill man.

>Dwarf Paladin
>Human Warrior
>Human Paladin
>Human Warrior #2
>Tauren Shaman (Me)
I think my latest dungeon run came straight out of a /heals/ greentext

I only started lurking here recently when Ambershire released, how long has the narcissistic attention whoring literal tranny zoomer playing a female elf been posting and why the fuck isn't that worthless filth banned yet?

>>538336010
Not an argument

>>538336448
they are literally paid to sit here promoting twow while shitting on the other projects. You can search through every /wpsg/, he surfaces any time you mention Wallcraft lmao

>>538290815
Herbs print money

I shit on Wallcraft for free because it's a terrible server.

I also came here for Ambie.

>>538336787
I'm probably dumping eng/min it's complete ass.

Paladin just flew over my house.

>>538336675
That isn't very effective advertising then since all it makes me want to do is avoid anything that fucking freak is tied to.

>>538334572
>>538333817
Literally rapebait for worgen

>have BoS
>another pally gives me BoW instead of BoM
Why? We have infinite mana with seal of wisdom, you chud.

>>538336787
herbs are worth fuckall on ambershire. even the endgame or super important ones are like 6s per and black lotus is only 10g or some shit
meanwhile every single ore for mining prints cash and stupid niggers are slurping everything made from jewelcrafting like their life depends on it

>>538337072
what do you think turtlewow is comprised of? they have a swarm of transsexuals that get paid in turtlecoins to shit on any other project while shilling their terrible cancer project. 15 posts from him in this thread alone shit talking a project he's never played. Once turtlewow gets sued into oblivion and their shillbux dry up, he'll be gone.

>>538337494
>now
he always does this

>>538337290
>paladins
>not being retarded at buffing ever
lol

the issue i have with wallcraft is that the design documents and his posts reek of feature creep. i mean if -every- single fucking idea he has ever posted and written down gets implemented with no issue it'll be the most technically impressive and insane fucking server ever made
but that also assumes that everything from guild based territory control to getting kidnapped by enemy factions and imprisoned gets coded
and that more than 15 people are willing to play what is functionally just an open world survivalslop game in a 20 year old vanilla engine. it literally boils down to a server consisting of one dude ideaguying a billion ideas and being able to implement them without feeling bloated and shitty with a large enough population to have these big epic turf wars

>>538337290
Then you get to use seal of wisdom less, why are you complaining?

>>538337389
So far my turtle experience has consisted of:

>questing solo
>giggling at the insane shit in world chat sometimes
>being unable to find tanks for any dungeons despite there being over 9000 paladins and warriors absolutely everywhere
>getting annoyed when the GM's start attention whoring and spamming uWu in the world chat
>getting muted for 20 minutes for trying to play the anal game in chat because the hosts are humorless transexuals
>enjoying seeing fat jiggling goblin tits when one of them shows up
>wondering why the fuck there are almost no dwarves and gnomes
>enjoying some cool music on the radio
>getting mad at the radio when it starts playing either mexican music for god knows what reason or an hour long reading of some fanfiction by a homosexual with the heaviest lisp I've ever heard who really doesn't sound like they belong anywhere near my videogames
>getting annoyed that fishing is still bugged
>hearing a really cool DJ play some actually really neat music while using a voice modulator to make himself sound like a demon from the abyss
>hearing a really gay different DJ with a heavy lisp interrupt the music to talk about himself for an hour and sassily tell people in world chat telling him to shut the fuck up that he makes the rules here
>shitting myself when I realize I'm flagged for pvp and running by a rogue 20 levels higher than me only for them to ignore me
>finally getting in a group and the tank speaks exclusively spanish and has to be lead through the dungeon
>mailing 1g to a guy named Notkanyewest because he asked for it in world chat and getting back a letter from him saying I'm a real nigga with a bundle of roses in it
>having to remind myself that this is STILL better than what Blizzard offers me

Server has its issues and its not as good as 2005 WoW but at least it's not Shittzard, just wish the hosts were more keen on balancing zones and fixing bugs than begging for attention constantly.

>>538338353
Why would a GM be off fixing bugs, they aren't developers.

>>538338353
>wondering why the fuck there are almost no dwarves
i didnt wonder that today at the crossroads when like 200 fucking manlet niggers from two different fucking guilds pulled up and bombed the goddamn place before marching on the gates of org

>>538338098
yeah it's probably best that we just shit on it every day on 4chan. After all, if it succeeded and people had fun it would be terrible for us turtlesisters.

>>538338353
The twow devs are too busy furiously posting on /wpsg/ about how much of a "hire this man ideas guy terrible mess of a dumpsterfire" wallcraft is. They don't have time to address things like glaring holes in their game mechanics, bugs that break entire zones, or the massive imbalances introduced by their developers who were high on HRT and not in a clear state of mind at the time.

I can't fuckin wait for it to launch already so real gamers like me have a chance to enjoy a vanilla project that doesn't exclusively cater to these mentally ill freaks.

>>538338631
Then what the fuck are they there for? Being gay in public? They have no TOS to monitor like some gay corporation, if people are screaming nigger faggot in chat they shouldn't care at all.

Everlook is using the "blizzard is after us" to shut the server down KEK

>>538338870
but if trannies were offended they might not buy the new mount for only 300 turtlecoins!

This is about the extent of it.

>>538338353
>>mailing 1g to a guy named Notkanyewest because he asked for it in world chat and getting back a letter from him saying I'm a real nigga with a bundle of roses in it
trve gaming

Average group doing onyxia attune on turtle

Motherfucker, you had so much time before we arrived.

>>538338870
>nooo they should be just like Blizzard and be a soulless corpo entity no fun allowed NO FUN ALLOWED
maybe you should go back to retail where you belong, tourist.

>>538340037
>no fun allowed
>get pissy and censor everything

>>538340136
>nooo they won't let me spam chat that's censorship!!!
get over yourself

>>538338098
>it literally boils down to a server consisting of one dude ideaguying a billion ideas
that should tell you everything about the chances of this shit ever actually "releasing". It's just a sandbox for one autist to play around in.

>>538340224
but they can spam chat with their homosexuality and it's fine, curious

The word "gay" is literally filtered on turtle, you can't say it in public chat channels.

>>538341209
not even blizzard does this btw

>>538341209
Good.
No gays allowed

>>538341492
Filtering your bullshit is a good thing. "Donald Trump" is similarly filtered on turtle.

Talk about the game.

>>538341209
That just means you can replace it with purposefully malicious terminology when "gay" would otherwise be used neutrally.
>yeah this cockgobbler I know....

>>538340840
It's because they're subversives with nothing better to do with their lives than to get control and power in niche communities that they aren't even part of and exert it brutally. Go check the old Warrior Fight Club discord (#1 warrior theorycrafting discord back on classic). It's now just 8 tranny mods talking about futa shit between each other and if you disrupt their ERP they ban you. The entire community discord is an unusable gooncave now.

>>538343216
>now just 8 tranny mods talking about futa shit between each other and if you disrupt their ERP they ban you

when does your rank go up on turtle, never dealt with the vanilla pvp system.

God damn I love aoe farming

>got 4 felcloth in 10 min
What is this used for again

>>538344481
buy an ad

>>538344558
how much would you charge an hour to shill it? wall would probably pay better than shenna, real american money and not turtlecoins. you should dm him and ask

Wall is crashing out because he has to go back to work tomorrow while Shenna is a full time WoW admin.

>>538338353
fishing is bugged?
also sounds kino af

>>538344998
is wall in the room with you right now?
jk no one is, you're alone right now larping as a girl in turtlewow lmao

I only just heard about the turtle lawsuit, were the defendant's identities found and is shenna confirmed to be torta

>>538345281
yes, shenna (yulia) is confirmed in legal documents as torta. Crogge confirmed himself as Bowser as well.

>>538338870
I dont think they punish you for anything that isnt extreme and obviously dropping random N bombs is extreme just control yourself.

I've literally talked so much shit to people in /yell and whispers over the last week and never got banned and the worse words I've used is retard and gay cuck.

>>538345281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0MJ5ikvlcM
/ourguy/ was right yet again

>>538345512
>dropping random N bombs is extreme
Only by youngshit standards who have no reference for actual extremes due to how fucking sanitized online interactions tend to be these days.

>>538345512
>dropping random N bombs is extreme
underage

>>538345671
This guy is bald just like wall lol

>>538345671
The wall destroys even men.

>>538345512
you were born long after freedom disappear lmao

>>538345741
>>538345818
>>538346170
I've been on the internet since 1999.
we're in our 30's now little lads time to grow up

>>538346170
>>538345818
>>538345741
just fyi shouting nigger in public has not been a socially acceptable thing literally ever outside of maybe the fucking 19th century lmao. you can complain about it all you want but the overwhelming majority of people don't respond positively to 4channers constantly calling everything that moves a nigger or kike, and the fact that they don't let you do that on turtle probably is part of the reason why it has a larger population than your typical private server where you are assaulted by a barrage of racial slurs whenever something goes wrong.

>>538346503
1999 is very late, underage

>>538346509
>just fyi shouting nigger in public has not been a socially acceptable thing literally ever outside of maybe the fucking 19th century lmao
underage

>>538346503
>say something wrong
>get corrected
>grow up *crying face*
Whatever you say. We're still correct.

>>538346509
>just fyi shouting nigger in public has not been a socially acceptable
You don't say. It's also not extreme. Extreme would be aggressively calling people niggers while threatening violence. Tourettes-like behavior isn't really extreme. It's just society acting like random words hold power over them because they're cattle who subscribed to learned behavior with zero applied critical thinking. Didn't read the rest of your post because it's probably as retarded and beside the point as the rest of it. Real life interactions aren't the same as online ones and do not hold to the same standard.

>>538346726
ok wtf were you even doing pre 99 then? because all of the mmo games were ultra garbo pre EQ and UO.

>>538346746
>bald ass unc still thinks randomly yelling slurs is le cool
hope thats working out for you unc

>>538346746
>It's also not extreme
98% of people would in fact consider shouting nigger in public to be extreme, actually.
>It's just society acting like random words hold power over them because they're cattle who subscribed to learned behavior with zero applied critical thinkin
Damn bro you're like so intellectual and enlightened and shit. You are so cool looking down on all the sheeple with their primitive social etiquette, imagine believing in something so illogical, almost as bad as believing in god.
*tips fedora at fellow euphoric critical thinker*

>>538347258
Doom and Quake for the most part, Stonekeep and Lands of Lore were also my main go-tos. Doesn't change the fact that the internet was far more loose with slurs before the normalfag invasion and people had a much stronger sense of humor about it, taking anything on the internet even remotely seriously got you mocked.

This stemmed from earlier gamer culture that shared this attitude. Look up the 1998 Quakecon, bunch of nerds having a giant LAN party in one room openly screaming slurs at each other from across the room and sharing porn, everyone laughing and nobody getting upset at all.

>>538347416
>retarded frogposter (redundant) can't do anything other than strawman
I accept your concession

>>538347419
Many people are retarded yes. Saying [word] isn't inherently anything because contextual meanings exist. You only consider it extreme because of social prejudice. Unless you say "nigger" or "faggot" or whatever gets added to the list next, any word isn't inherently extreme. Other words that might mean the same thing, like "cocksmoker", are perfectly fine. Blacks say "nigger" all the time. The word isn't inherently anything. Yes, people are stupid as fuck sometimes. Are you surprised?
>Damn bro you're like so intellectual and enlightened and shit.
>can't come up with any sort of actual counterargument because he knows this is, in fact, the case here
I accept your concession

>>538347416
why are you talking shit about other peoples appearance out of all things when your skin color is literally that of feces? people are so nice to you know, yet you don't return anything at all.

Stop replying to election tourists.

>>538347443
just becaue you said it with your mongoloid tiny friend group doesnt mean that was the overall vibe of the internet
things that were more normalized was calling people faggots and gay but random n bombs were always the monogloid shit edgy fags would only do within a controlled group in places like vent and ts

>>538346509
>average leftist troon retard displaying his abysmal understanding of history
people were shouting nigger down the street in 1980s lmao. Wasn't until massive immigration completely wrecked the country, now people shout nigger down the street in spanish.

>>538347797
>because contextual meanings exist.
and the contextual meaning of randomly screaming nigger at people is overwhelmingly negative lmao

>WHY CAN RAPPERS SAY NIGGER BUT I CAN'T!?!?! THAT'S THE REAL RACISM!!

what a 90s ass argument lmao. you are literally like the dude from that boondocks episode.

>Many people are retarded yes.
Good thing you have it all figured out then professor anon. If only you would graciously provide some of your wisdom from the lofty heights of your childhood bedroom in your mother's house to the unwashed masses, we might be living in a perfect utopia.

>>538347932
I'm pale white though...

>>538347419
It has nothing to do with social etiquette, these people aren't actually harmed or upset at hearing someone say nigger. It's about exerting power and control over others and subverting a pre-existing culture that they don't respect and that did not give them the ability to foster the power they crave. A culture where people can freely use slurs against each other without offense is one where conflict is difficult to form in general. Treating words like this with such importance gives them strength, when everyone is calling each other nigger faggot retards then nobody cares and the words become little more than humorous noises.

You don't get it. I'm not saying people were interrupting black players to loudly quote Mein Kampf or something like that, I'm saying that the sense of being able to freely joke about racy and otherwise sensitive topics without taking offense was heavily prevalent across the entire internet and even mainstream culture to a much larger degree than what we see these days.

>>538347996
that's categorically false though and multiple people are telling you so, nigger

im still playing turtlewow and the jews cant stop me

>>538348089
>anon displays his extremely poor reading comprehension and intelligence
nigger

>>538348157
But you're so stupid it's hard to believe.

>>538348089
>what a 90s ass argument
I'll never understand people like you who get upset at the notion of greater freedom and fun and seem to actively show contempt towards an era when those things were in greater abundance instead of wishing we moved back to the mentality.

>>538348226
>A culture where people can freely use slurs against each other without offense is one where conflict is difficult to form in general.
yeah bro all conflict throughout human history was rooted in people getting mad at being called slurs.
you are extremely intelligent, and you definitely are not a total moron that is very obviously missing the forest for the trees lmao.

>>538303039
Name and I might reach out to you.
Do you like helfies...

>>538348226
The guy you're responding to is some brainrotted moron who doesn't bother to look beneath the surface at things. Trying to actually use reason on him is like trying to reason with an egg. All he'll do is make shit up to strawman with or attack your person rather than respond to the actual argument in a genuine way.

>>538346509
When I was in middle school in the mid 2000's we shouted niggerfaggot at school/on the bus all the time. Nobody game a shit.

>>538348370
Conflict among hobbyists engaging in socializing about said hobby and the culture around it, yes. Were nerds fighting over territory claims or access to fertile fields where you come from or something?

>>538348052
Yeah everybody is still racist as fuck IRL whenever they know you're not a rat snitch. These are retards who get their reality from TV/internet like >>538348089

>bald uncles living in some kind of weird false n bomb screaming late 90's fantasy
you guys need a break from WoW its rotting your brain

>>538348523
when I was in school in the 90s notbody shouted nigger in any context ever, because it's been a social taboo for literally over a century.

>>538348238
>jews
>trying to stop you from playing wow and not encouraging it
wew lad

>[insert ad hominem here]
Heh. Fucking got 'em

>>538348523
I had a black friend, italian friend and a jewish friend in high school. I remember calling the italian a greasy wop constantly, he'd call me a kraut in turn, we'd joke about a photo collage of historical figures in one classroom and how Hitler must be pissed seeing a jew in there, and one time during lunch when the power went out I told my black friend to run like hell and make sure he doesn't smile. He laughed his ass off.

>>538348582
Sorry little nigger, the day of the rope is nigh and your mother sisters and wives can't wait to get bleached by BWC. Natural selection will run it's course and create a better world and there is not a single thing you can do to stop it.

>>538348729
>one time during lunch when the power went out I told my black friend to run like hell and make sure he doesn't smile
kek I can see that gif in my head

>>538348627
they want you to play on retail and be a gay dragon wearing pride parade tabard while also buying 300 dollar store mounts and buying several WoW tokens for achievement boosts

>>538348884
my family is the bleach we're just not inbred IQ like your family

>>538349118
yeah and I'm sure they hate when you do all of that on a private server owned by a chabad jewess instead

I'm playing wow and not participating in this autistic fight you girls are having.

>>538349264
russianGAWDDESS > gayparademerchants

>>538349256
Bitch, you can't even punctuate. That's about as inbred as they come.

>>538349392
damn lad going to hit us with the 4k 1.12 screeny lowkey flex

>>538349418
He is a cringe loser trying to be "cool" by spouting cringe twitch and tiktok memes every sentence. Genuinely suicide would be a an apt idea.

>>538348226
>I'm saying that the sense of being able to freely joke about racy and otherwise sensitive topics without taking offense was heavily prevalent across the entire internet and even mainstream culture to a much larger degree
jennifer lopez basically got modern day cancelled in 2001 for saying nigger while singing some rap song that was literally written by a nigger rapper. The fact is that it has never been acceptable to use the word casually in public even in a context like that where she wasn't even using her own lyrics. nigger has been considered a very harsh offensive word for literally over a century, it was a harsh offensive slur during the civil war for fuck's sake.

You guys are confusing the years you were fucking around on the wild west internet in the 2000s for real life.

>>538349418
>>538349715
>bald boomer uncs still fuming at the truth
many such cases

The herb market has crashed

>>538349871
>talks like a 12 year old
>tells people what it was actually like in the 90s
You are actually retarded though, you simply will not live a nice life at this mental level so it would be beneficial for you to to just end it.

>>538349727
Guns n Roses had a similar thing happen in the fucking 1980s, they wrote a song with nigger and faggot in it causing a huge scandal. Axl Rose even pulled the same line anon did earlier lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_in_a_Million_(Guns_N%27_Roses_song)
>I used words like police and niggers because you're not allowed to use the word 'nigger.' Why can black people go up to each other and say 'Nigger,' but when a white guy does it all of a sudden it's a big putdown?

>>538350041
Sold everything I was stockpiling because there's no point to wait for raid when server is closing soon.

>>538350305
>Axl Rose even pulled the same line anon did earlier lmao
I thought you were trolling earlier by pretending to be retarded, but that's not even what I was saying you illiterate sperg. I was saying that since others use the word, the word clearly isn't inherently harmful. Therefore, context matters. So simply using the word isn't automatically extreme. it needs to be accompanied by further context. I know why people play double standard with the word, and it isn't a good excuse for the double standard existing, but it is what it is.
But you're too much of a low IQ faggot to understand that and will reply with some random, childish bullshit.

cata bros... are we winning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k328UvLMy90

>>538350572
>Therefore, context matters.
Yes, and in basically any context where you would actually say the word short of reading it out of a dictionary it would be considered offensive, and it has been that way for many decades. There was never a time where people were freely slinging the word nigger around in public and everyone laughed it off as good fun. I mean just look at what he was saying in fucking 1989 lmao
> because you're not allowed to use the word 'nigger.'
and you are telling me that before what, 2015 it was completely fine to shout nigger in public randomly? Whether you agree with this or not or you consider it "logical" doesn't matter, THAT is what it is.

> you can get a cloak that's 3 times better than cloak of draconic might by just farming rep
I like twow but some of the things they did are simply bullshit. That's like if they made Don Julio's band better than Master Dragonslayer's Ring.

>>538350845
>it would be considered offensive
Because people are retarded, not because the word is extreme. You continue to miss my point, and you continue to strawman. Retarded nigger.

>felcloth hood cost 6.5g to craft
>sells on the AH for 3g

Epic crafting profession!

>>538350940
>Because people are retarded, not because the word is extreme.
People consider the word to be extreme, that is the context. You don't get to individually decide if it's extreme or not. You continue to miss the point, that just because you individually consider it to not be an offensive word does not mean that it isn't an offensive word.

>>538350990
For some reason tons of retards list items at a loss on turtle
its a buyers market which I prefer overall

>>538350990
>>538351150
almost like the server just launched and people are more interested in leveling their professions than buying random shitter crafted items making the value of crafting components higher.

>>538350876
At least that's only BWL tier. There is a new tailoring cloak that is as strong as naxx one for most caster.

>>538351056
You're a nigger, you smell bad and have low IQ, why should anyone listen to you? Why should you decide?

>>538351056
>People consider the word to be extreme, that is the context.
People thinking something doesn't make it true. The earth is not the center of our universe. It isn't flat. And using leaches to suck out your blood isn't a cure-all for disease. More at 11.
Just because some people are hypersensitive babies or unthinking sacks of shit that let others decide their opinions and thoughts for them doesn't mean that their collective state makes them correct.
Extreme is:
>You're a filthy fucking nigger
in an actually racist context or some other aggressive manner.
But there are other cases where it isn't, like teenagers being retarded and edgy, blacks throwing it around as they please, referentially, and so on. Only the most retarded of liberal cunts thinks that the word is all-around ebil and deserving social death as a punishment. And anyone who disregards context isn't someone whose opinion is worth heeding. If I wanna retell a Dave Chappelle joke, I'm gonna say the whole fucking joke and not say "n-word" like a prissy fucking faggot. It's both retarded and hurts the joke. That isn't extreme behavior.

>>538351229
nah same thing happenes on nord and its old as fuck

>>538351694
>People thinking something doesn't make it true.
You thinking that shouting nigger in people's faces randomly isn't offensive doesn't make it true.

>>538351836
>back to strawmanning at the first sight of an argument he has no response to

>>538349727
Live television was always more censored and constrained due to advertisers shitting bricks over any controversy, yes, but that did not extend to how people spoke in person or on the internet. What we face now is that same type of control and censorship extending to the internet as a whole because it has been invaded by normalfags and the very same advertisers desperate to sanitize anything for the sake of shilling products. The internet before 2010ish was a VERY different place, and now that it has been mutilated into basically being an extension of real life, the censorship that is prevalent on it today is leaking into real life as well. Why do you think zoomers are saying shit like "unalived" out loud?

>>538316197
Can he jump though

>bald racist boomer unc still seething his dementia is making him misremember how things actually were
lmao you can't make this shit up

Friends got me to play on epoch somehow, should i kill them in their sleep

>>538349556
That is ultrawide 1440p, not 4k.

>>538352303
Is Epoch that bad? I had no desire to swap from Turtle, so I haven't tried it since one of the beta tests.

>>538351925
>The internet before 2010ish was a VERY different place
yeah because 1% of 1% of the world's population was using the internet in 1999. If you think that environment could have been maintained or is possible to bring back you are delusional. And that's why it's perfectly understandable for private servers like turtle to enforce those rules, because regardless of how erm actually heckin illogical it is to think saying nigger is offensive the fact is that the great majority of people do think it's offensive. And taking some absolutist position on the freedom to spam nigger and faggot in public chats in game for the sake of appeasing a handful of guys still nostalgic for their anonymous bulletin boards from 1999 is a pretty piss poor strategy for attracting people to your server.

and fyi I don't know if you know this, but using the word nigger can even get you banned on 4chan and does so pretty regularly. Maybe you should start your own chan in protest to the normalfag menace controlling 4chan.

>>538352306
If you want to see ultrawide just put me on /follow

>>538352458
>And taking some absolutist position on the freedom to spam nigger and faggot in public chats in game for the sake of appeasing a handful of guys still nostalgic for their anonymous bulletin boards from 1999 is a pretty piss poor strategy for attracting people to your server.
>a game where you can /ignore someone
Yes, how awful. Imagine having the power to control the words you see on your screen and demanding others take action. Truly, the modern internet is full of the cognitively dead.

I'm more racist than any of the chuds who want to spam racial epithets on wow.

Nobody wants to hear your sperg political shit. You don't need to "le redpill" world chat, you retard. You podunk flyover nothing. You have no political or social power and nothing "you"(your favourite e-celeb)think matters.

Talk about the game.

>>538352596
No one is gonna spend dozens of hours to reach max level on a server where they have to constantly ignore people in world chat spamming nigger. They will just stop playing.

Which is why it's perfectly reasonable for them to not allow spamming nigger in public chats.

>>538352702
nigger

>>538352702
I ran into one after I stomped him in pvp he tried to call me a tranny and I told him I hate trannys too then he instantly lighted up and started yapping about his day.
I think edge lords just want a friend they can relate to and they're crying out to the universe for one.

>>538352757
>he actually thinks many people will mindlessly spam "nigger"
You're a dipshit. People can say a lot of shit on Turtle, and for the most part, they don't. It's the same on every pserver I've ever played on that provided a lot of social freedom. This may surprise you, but most people aren't retarded enough to actually do stupid shit like spam messages, and it's that way because nobody likes those people, even when they're spamming much more inane bullshit.

Retard

>>538352843
Austistic people that go out of their way to be abrasive for no reason deserve to be isolated and die without friends or loved ones

>>538352164
>gen alpha cringemaxxer memespouter steps outside his social media hugbox for 3 minutes and gets told to end his life and secretly knows they are right

>>538349727
What the fuck does elites who can cancel peoples career because of saying words have in common with regular people? You're an unheard of asslick if you think they ever genuinely represented regular people.

>>538350305
imagine being so brainrotted that you believe manufactured outrage in media is at all representative of real life lmao. Typical wow neet.

>>538352702
brown

>>538353215
>bald boomer unc still driving his blood pressure sky high over words
LMAOOOOOO

>>538354045
Seriously man, nobody likes hanging out with cringe retards, why don't you just end your life instead of spending like 70 years subjecting people to that?

>>538354371
You are brown.

>>538354618
No you see I'm just not white even I'm Pale White.

>>538352393
> Is Epoch that bad?
Ton of bugs and ruined economy. Nodes respawn very fast. They also respawn after every server restart, which happen at least 20 times during the day. Only good thing about Epoch is that it uses a more optimized client and there are no sub level 40 people with mounts.

>>538354974
>wotlk
>more optimized client
lol good luck when you get more than 500 people on your screen

>>538355120
yeah I'm sure the vanilla client that was notorious for crashing during any kind of world event was much better at handling that.

>>538355327
worked and continues to work on my machine just fine

>>538355452
literally didn't however. in fact it so didn't work just fine that they stopped doing world events altogether because they couldn't do it without the game shitting itself.
there is zero reason to believe that the vanilla client is any better than the wotlk client at handling large amounts of players regardless.

>>538355554
blud be poppin his noggin with that thang fr

how long does it take to get rank 3, worth getting it for the mount discount?

>>538355957
It's fast as fuck. I got it from world PVP

>>538355764
this is the only time these memes have been funny

>>538356045
I did a few bgs and am around 100hks, is that enough? I dunno when this shit updates either, it's not weekly is it?

>>538355327
what? vanilla client crashing during world events? never had that happen in my life

>>538355659
>did av back in the day
>worked just fine
>did AQ event back in the day
>worked just fine
>did massive world pvp in southshore
>worked just fine
>did massive capital city raid pvp
>worked just fine
?????

>>538355659
that's false on every level though, wotlk client has more shaders and uses alot more packets for many of the additional systems. Plus wotlk emulators are far less optimized than vanilla which is why vanilla servers regularly have 10k+ people online. The client is just less user-friendly so everyone prefers wotlk for the features.

Paymane Onyxia world events also worked just fine on 3.3.5

>>538356374
>wotlk client has more shaders and uses alot more packets for many of the additional systems.
sounds like made up bullshit, never had any issues whatsoever with the wotlk client with large numbers of players.

You are literally just making shit up as a desperate defense of the retarded decision to use the shitty vanilla client.

TWoW still has CD on hamstring? Holy shit, that's beyond retarded.

>>538356589
yup

>>538356445
no it's correct on a technical level. meanwhile you're spouting shit you pulled out your ass like "blizzard stopped doing world events because vanilla client would crash" which literally didn't happen.

What did happen, like during the original AQ event, was that so many players were gathered in a single zone during 2005 running Celeron II processors and GPUs with less transistors than your refrigerator to play the game, which could not handle it all at the time. It's 2025 and that isn't the issue anymore. Now it boils down to client and server optimization for large amounts of players, and vanilla is better for both.

The wotlk client has vertex shading, something that vanilla client doesn't have. Vertex shading is graphically expensive compared to anything in vanilla client.

>>538356374
>Plus wotlk emulators are far less optimized than vanilla which is why vanilla servers regularly have 10k+ people online.
what the fuck does this even mean "optimized", as if you have a clue about any of this shit. nevermind the fact that warmane has been running icecrown with 10k+ players daily for a fucking decade at this point, with wintergrasp battles every few hours
> Now it boils down to client and server optimization for large amounts of players, and vanilla is better for both.

more made up bullshit.

>>538259057
I'll always find this shit funny. The same Paladin mains menstruated about how vanilla warrior was so heckin op and the most played, yet now they get to experience and suddenly it's fine. It was never about balancing the classes, they just wanted their turn

>>538356879
Explain how a client with vertex shaders will run better under load than a client without vertex shaders.

Also, explain how an emulator which requires ~1.5x the amount of packet transmission to clients would perform better.

Sisters, how do I respond?!

>>538357381
You explain how warmane has been running a wotlk server with zero issues for 10 years with 10k+ players with a daily world pvp event with hundreds of players spamming mass aoe for an hour straight.

>ERM ACTUALLY THIS IS TECHINCALLY MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THE HECKIN SHADERS
blow it out your ass you pretend expert faggot, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and pretending to on 4chan is impressing no one. Even if your supposed theoretical performance gain existed it's still irrelevant since it's clearly possible to run a large wotlk server since others have done it for years, and any supposed performance advantage of vanilla doesn't justify using the dogshit vanilla client anyway.

I also like how your cop out about the game crashing like crazy during AQ was that the hardware is bad, but now you are shitting yourself over 2009 wotlk graphics when 2025 GPUs are available.

Eat my ass you insufferable kike and take your dogshit 1.12 with you.

>>538356717
I guess I'll stick to Epoch then

>>538357672
you got really mad, probably because you don't know what you're talking about whatsoever.

>>538357585
Rape

>>538357585
Dox them and let us handle the rest

>>538357862
I'm not seeing any argument whatsoever, so I'll accept your concession and admission that you are pretending to know what you are talking about.

Eat shit.

>>538357862
are you the same retard code monkey that was arguing a few days ago that 1.12 is superior because you can more easily use botting software with it?

>>538357908
Any argument with what? I was right and you are absolutely ignorant as to how any of this stuff works. You failed to answer my simple question: How does a client with vertex shaders perform better under load than a client without? Simple fact is that 1.12 handles better under high player density. It is much thinner than wotlk, and the vmangos emulator is extremely well optimized, being the first emulator to feature multithreading and optimization of grid checks.

Also, you keep bringing up Warmane - a closed source project which has professional developers working to bring their emulator up to the same standard as what vmangos offers. Which they did; but that work doesn't go back to the public repo so unless you're specifically talking about how much Warmane is optimized, you seem to miss the point that publicly available WotLK emulators perform worse than VMaNGOS when it comes to big numbers. It's why epoch shit the bed after hitting 5k players.

>>538358342
Were you the guy saying that Decursive is botting software? lol. lmao even

>>538358632
Yeah, I can see how a faggot like yourself would prefer the game that lets you automate all of your gameplay since you are too shit to do it yourself.

Very telling how you insist that a mod that does all of the action and decision making for you automatically with a single key press isn't cheating. How many of your own homemade mods do you have that do similar things for the rest of the game?

>>538358790
LOL you're literally calling a vanilla addon (which existed in 2005) botting software. You're legit mentally ill.

>>538358876
Blizzard specifically removed the capability to use such mods from tbc onward, because as you said yourself they were considered cheating. So of course a codelet like yourself would prefer the version of the game that allows you to automate everything, actually playing the game is beyond your capability.

>>538359019
"as I said myself" I never said that though. And that was blizzards decision to do so in TBC, when they could've just as well done it in vanilla. Yet here you are crying about it 20 years later as if though you have some sort of moral highground for playing a version of the game that allows NextCast macros (literal 1 button rotation) while complaining about an addon allowing a 1-click dispel. It's mental illness and you should seek help lmao.

>>538359184
So how much of the game have you automated by abusing the recognized form of cheating that was possible with 1.12? Pretty much everything I bet, and I'm sure your shrimp dick pops a boner as your giggle to yourself in your filthy bedroom when you outperform a real player with your bot.

>>538359384
"recognized form of cheating"
That's literally something you made up though and has zero basis in history or reality. You're just a mentally ill zealot with complete ignorance of how anything around you works, so you just angrily spout of absolute nonsense.

>>538359547
Yeah right, just like how reckoning bombs were totally intended up to the very second that paladin oneshot kazzak and they hotfixed it. The fact that they hotfixed it within hours doesn't mean that it was an unintentional oversight, it just means that they fully intended reckoning to be able to oneshot raidbosses one day and didn't the next day.

You are such a disingenuous faggot it's actually sickening, the fact that you won't deny that you have a pile of handmade scripts to play the game for you is very telling as well.

>>538359742
no, reckoning having unlimited stacking was a bug. it was unintended.

Decursive was an addon that was used all throughout vanilla by nearly everyone. Blizzard didn't like how good it was at dispelling and wanted dispelling to not feel trivialized so they disabled the API functions which made it work. At no point did they call the addon botting software, cheating, against the rules, illegal, or immoral. Those are all things you have stirred into your own rotted brain like a literal schizo.

If blizzard didn't want the addon working in vanilla, they would've disabled it in vanilla. They waited until TBC because they didn't want to disable a major addon midway through vanilla and risk upsetting the playerbase who overwhelmingly used it

>>538357585
>leaking private messages
Not cool.

>>538359742
>accusing someone of having a "pile of handmade scripts to play the game for them"
>because they use Decursive (which 99% of vanilla players use)
Holy shit you are actually cracked. What's your opinion on weakauras btw?

>>538357585
that healer a baddie and i dont mean skill wise

>>538360192
>At no point did they call the addon botting software, cheating, against the rules, illegal, or immoral. Those are all things you have stirred into your own rotted brain
Really? Let's check the record here shall we?
>>537720181
>People need to realize that 1.12 is extremely permissive compared to newer clients, even when unmodified. Many things you can do on it would be considered cheating by modern standards.
Hmm, looks like your brain might be a little rotted yourself.

Now go ahead and answer the question, how much of the game have you automated by abusing this recognized form of cheating?

>Decursive
Man, that was not even the best shit
For that we had Healbot which auto-downranked heals and cast when someone clicked on the raid frame

>>538360243
>>538360334
>no one replied to gay larp #823
>time to samefag and post on timer to something from 30 minutes ago
you are so fuckin insufferable it's insane lmao. you are the worst part of this thread every day, and everyone thinks that.

>>538360398
that literally isn't me you sperg lmao

Unlike wall, I have a family and irl support structure so the opinions of people online don't really matter to me.

>>538360562
Sure it isn't you little disingenuous faggot. Squirm harder lmao.

When's WoD fresh

>>538360413
this guy is just actually both insane and retarded. He's crying about Decursive being botting software in every thread yet has never mentioned healbot or weakauras. The dude is straight schizo or something, like his brain is locked on complaining about an addon that everyone uses in a version of a game he doesn't even play.

>>538360441
thats my first post in the entire thread

>>538360610
it isn't, but there's really nothing I could possibly say to convince you otherwise because you're mentally ill.

>it's perfectly acceptable that 1.12 allows making addons that do literally everything for you in one key press

we really dying on this hill now? who can make and hoard the best third party software isn't a game I want to play.

>>538360961
classic was all about weakauras
wotlk has a ton more addons and macro collections which you're basically required to use, including optimized castsequence macros
vanilla has an addon that makes decursing a one button thing, and not much else.
pick your poison. Or go play gummy tbc where addons are disabled, you can be like the other 56 people there who are autistic about this thing.

>>538361158
weakauras and castsequence macros are way less powerful than literal software that plays the game for you aside from requiring a keystroke. weakauras are just UI, they don't do anything automatically, and castsequence macros are so rigid that they are basically useless in high level play, literally no one uses them because they are so easily derailed when you have to do anything other than spam your rotation which is almost every scenario.

the only time castsequences are useful are when you have a short string of abilities that you always use together like X ability then change stance/form, and even that still requires individual keystrokes.

the ability to blindly hammer one key when the software takes over and not only finds and chooses a target but even prioritizes the ideal target out of all possible targets in range and then casts the most optimized spell on that target is an entirely different fucking galaxy of bullshit than any kind of modern macro or weakaura.

>>538361485
I like how you moved the goalpost from:
>"IT'S LITERALLY BOTTING, IT'S CHEATING, IT'S ILLEGAL"
to:
>"it's like way too overpowered"
Okay but that's your opinion then. No one cares about your opinion. Don't like vanilla? Cool. Anything else?

>>538361909
I didn't change anything, it IS cheating. Which is why they SPECIFICALLY removed the ability to cheat in that way.

I like how you can't even argue against how bullshit it is.

>>538362013
>It's cheating!
show me where blizzard said it was cheating. And if blizzard thought it was cheating, why didn't they disable it immediately? They have the power to disable any addon instantly. So why wait until TBC? Because it's an addon you schizo retard, it's not a bot script and literally everyone used it in vanilla (and still does). You're mentally ill though and no one can convince you otherwise - which is fine. Just don't fuckin play vanilla.

>>538362210
Show me where blizzard said reckoning was cheating.
>THEY DIDN'T DISABLE IT IN MY ARBITRARY WINDOW OF TIME SO THAT MEANS THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS CHEATING!!!! PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THEY DID INDEED DISABLE IT!!!

VERY convincing stuff anon.

>>538362347
So you can't provide any proof that blizzard claimed, said, or thought at any point that it was cheating? Gotcha.

Can you explain why they allowed the addon to exist and be used by 90% of the playerbase for a whole expansion despite having the ability to disable it immediately?


The problem is that you can't explain it without pulling wild claims out of your ass. If blizzard thought it was cheating they would've disabled it immediately, and would've have waited for a whole new expansion to do so.

>>538362347
>show me where blizzard said the reckoning bug which they fixed within the same day was actually a bug
Holy shit you're really off your meds today aren't you lmao

>>538362639
>So you can't provide any proof that blizzard claimed, said, or thought at any point that it was cheating? Gotcha.
They specifically disabled the ability to use such addons. Seems pretty obvious what their intentions were to me.

I'm thinking that you are the mentally ill one here, considering the absurd mental gymnastics you are resorting to here to defend an obviously indefensible position. The fact that they barred the usage of those automated addons isn't enough, they have to have done it on a specific day for it to be acceptable for you.

>>538362347
right here you literal retard lmao
http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/3097293.htm

>>538362347
>>538363106
nta but they only did this change because a dwarf paladin abused it to one shot world bosses

>>538363106
I don't see them saying it's cheating OR a bug there, just that they changed it.

I guess the only honest interpretation of that statement is that they fully intended for reckoning to work like that, until they didn't on 5/12/2005. Just like how they fully intended for you to make botting software until tbc.

>>538362830
>absurd mental gymnastics
>NOOOO BLIZZARD DIDN'T MEAN TO ALLOW THE ADDON TO BE USED FOR OVER A YEAR STRAIGHT!!! IT WAS CHEATING!!! THEY SAID SO TO ME IN A FEVER DREAM, TRUST ME

Meanwhile:
>>538362347
>>538363106

Got any more cope as to why you think you know more than blizzard? face it dude, you're the peak of ignorance. A literal retard nobody who doesn't seem to understand that if a vanilla pserver wanted to disable Decursive they could, but no one wants that except you (because you're legit insane and raving about a client you dont even play)

Lay off the SSRIs dude theyre fuckin you up bad.

>>538363156
>>538363186

it was clearly a bug and was hotfixed immediately upon discovery.

Unlike Decursive which was an addon that was allowed to exist by Blizzard for an entire expansion.

>>538363364
>it was clearly a bug and was hotfixed immediately upon discovery.
They don't say it was a bug anywhere. I think you are just mentally ill, inventing things that don't exist because you are mad about the perfectly intended reckoning bomb technique existing.

>>538363431
Lemme get this straight, you are now unironically claiming that unlimited reck bomb stacking was an intended mechanic despite being HOTFIXED immediately upon discovery (blizzard only applies hotfixes for gamebreaking bugs btw, otherwise it waits for the new patch) yet you simultaneously believe that the Decursive addon was an oversight and a form of cheating that blizzard somehow overlooked (despite 90% of the playerbase using it for the entirety of vanilla)

There's actually no reasoning with you. You're mentally ill and have no sense of what is going on around you.

>>538363106
lmao rekt

>>538363595
I seem to recall you demanding that unless I can produce proof in writing that blizzard considered 1.12 addon capabilities to be cheating than they are conclusively not cheating. Now you are demanding that your own standard not apply to you in your claim that they considered reckoning bombing to be a bug.

Very amusing.

>>538363729
So what is your proof for your claim that it is cheating? The onus is on you, dumb faggot. Show me where they believe it was cheating.

I showed you proof of my claim where blizzard hotfixed reckbomb. Why did they have to hotfix it? Why didn't they hotfix Decursive to disable it if it was gamebreaking cheating like you claim?

You're just arguing semantics over it like a literal kike while providing absolutely nothing to back up your claim that Decursive is cheating lmao

>>538363917
>Why did they have to hotfix it? Why didn't they hotfix Decursive to disable it if it was gamebreaking cheating like you claim?
Probably because it was a much more difficult and complex problem to resolve than tweaking a single ability to not stack infinitely, interestingly there is evidence that they were working on the 2.0 changes to scripting capability in vanilla 1.10 per this forum post,
https://web.archive.org/web/20070519031058/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com:80/thread.html?topicId=36975623&sid=1

>The protected code mechanism introduced in 1.10 has been extended to cover more functions. Blizzard code is considered secure, all other code is untrusted. The following function types are restricted for AddOns:
>* Movement is never allowed.
>* Spell casting and targetting (including focus) are only allowed using secure templates or special slash commands (not /script).
>* Programatic modification of macros, key bindings, and the action bar page only allowed outside of combat.
>* Trading, placing auction bids, querying LFG, crafting, and reloading the UI are only allowed interactively.
>* Action buttons and targeting frames are now "protected". Protected frames cannot be programmatically moved, shown or hidden, or have their attributes (unit, action, etc) changed during combat.

>>538364032
This was more or less about the time they figured out how badly hackers could manipulate their shit, and it was a cat and mouse game ever since

>>538364032
>Probably because it was a much more difficult and complex problem to resolve

Again you're making up absolute shit from nowhere. There is literally zero difficulty in disabling any addon you retarded faggot, maybe if you downloaded an emulator and figured out how it worked you would know this you dumb bitch.

>>538364273
>Again you're making up absolute shit from nowhere.
Just like you are making up how they considered reckoning a bug then :)

>>538364143
Oh, yeah, I just looked it up https://www.escapistmagazine.com/blizzard-clobbers-glider-bot-maker-in-court/

>>538364517
>made $2.5M in 2007 dollars on a wow bot
the extent to which people will go to not play the game they paid for is unreal.

>>538364305
>blizzard didn't consider reckbomb a bug because they didn't use the word bug when applying a same-day hotfix for it
>yet decursive is cheating and blizzard simply didn't have the ability to stop it from being used
this is what happens when parents make their children believe that they're smart without actually teaching them anything. You end up with people like this guy who are contrarian retards with zero knowledge to back it up - even when blatantly wrong they continue to dig in further.

>>538364517
>>538364773
In fact the more I think about this the more I realize that multiplayer gaming was a mistake. You have third worlders making literal millions today with gigantic runescape bot farms, chinks making millions more farming gold in classic wow and even on fucking private servers which is just peak insanity. And that's not even touching the straight money laundering they do in CSGO or whatever the equivalent game is today.

I'm more and more convinced that multiplayer games should have no tradable resource system whatsoever, or only trivial trading.

You two are equally retarded, stop shitting the thread up with your sophistic kike arguments

>>538365080
And the tradable resource system in wow barely even adds anything to the game. Crafted equipment is barely relevant and consumables range from a tiresome chore to game breaking horseshit. I'm tempted to say that the game would be better off if none of it existed in the first place, or if you could only produce them yourself.
It would at least massively reduce the incentive for chinks to bot the game.

>>538357351
And all the warrior mains rerolled to paladin.

It’s insane how with even the slightest hint of viability causes people to flock to the class.

>>538368264
see
>>538331857

>>538348497
add Bassy!

>parry miss miss dodge parry dodge parry parry
man, you know guys, vanilla wow is just so GOOD, it has so much SOVL!, it's so SOVLFVL to have every combat being a roulette simulator

>>538369789
get hit gear lazy ass broke ass

>>538369789
Never had much a problem with it while leveling my rogue, and it's rarely an issue when I play warrior (which is most of the time). Stop fighting same-level mobs and/or improve your gear.

>>538369930
hey yeah, that will solve 10% of 33% of the problem. Why didn't I think of that?

>>538369972
>Never had much a problem with it
Damn you are so cool, do you mind if I ask a preeminent master like yourself for your secrets on how you outskilled the combat roll table through sheer expert ability and force of will?

>>538370092
kek
I'm just saying that if it's really troubling you so much, there's something you should adjust. If you're a melee class fighting yellow/orange mobs while leveling, that's usually the issue.

>>538370179
>If you're a melee class fighting yellow/orange mobs while leveling, that's usually the issue.
Almost like the game is badly designed or something, wait what am I saying??? SOVLLLLL

>>538370246
Cry about it more then. You've been given the solution to your problem. Not having everything be completely piss-easy was part of the appeal of leveling in vanilla, yes. It isn't perfect, but it still beats modern alternatives.

>>538369789
skill issue

>>538370347
>It isn't perfect,
No kidding, if I didn't know better than vanilla wow was indeed a sovlfvl masterpiece of all gaming I might say that it was slapped together by a bunch of drunk retards who barely understood what they were doing. That couldn't possibly be the case though, how could a bunch of drunk retards ship a game with half the classes being blatantly unfinished? Only true SOVL connoisseurs would take such a bold and innovative direction.

>>538370519
If xp and levels are a gamification of your character's combat experience and ability, then you're fighting enemies with the same or higher skill as your character. And you're surprised that it's punishing when you're playing a character that can't mitigate these conditions with magic or a pet. Do you leave your shoes untied and get mad at the shoes when you trip?

>>538370591
They should gamify my character's need to shit, piss and cut his toenails. It would be highly SOVLFVL if I had to make sure I had empty bowels, bladder and tastefully trimmed nails before combat to avoid the risk of being randomly stunlocked by a shit your pants debuff or a bowel cramps debuff or an uncomfortable toes debuff.

>>538370728
You just aren't a TRVE sovl enjoyer sir, go back to your casual modern trash.

>>538370712
Haha imagine watching your fem helf take a massive dump lol....

>>538370821
I can fap to #1 but #2 is just weird.

I hear turtle devs lurk in wpsg

>>538370519
Imagine getting filtered by hit chance lmao

>>538371802
yeah sheena is here with us right now she said she plans to fight blizzard just for us so we can continue playing specifically

Should I take Alchemy and Herbing while leveling my warrior? I'd take mining but every node seems to be camped and Troll Elixers seem nice for HP regen while leveling.

Also first 5 points should always go into Cruelty, then probably pick up Arms? I'd go full Fury but that 30% miss chance on the offhand is brutal and I have zero gold for a second weapon.

>>538374489
go deadmines for early mining

>>538374489
arms blows, 2h fury is probably better if you don't want to dual wield. you get piecing howl which is huge on a server where they added a cooldown to hamstring, and the fact that they made the bloodrage damage always count as a crit means you can trigger enrage on demand and get health back anyway from blood craze. plus that blood drinker talent is probably goated for leveling.

>think about playing feral in wotlk
>remember the snapshotting
aaaaaaaand nope, I'm good

>>538374849
feral sucks on real wotlk anyway without the busted funserver shit they had on classic.

Balor is pretty cool.

>>538374489
if you are really dead set on warrior (i honestly don't know why you would be considering they're pretty fucking garbage on turtle) then give prot a try. rush shield slam and just sword/board to 60, it's quite good and you can tank dungeons better - not as good as a paladin or druid but its still fine

>>538375096
numbers are irrelevant, it's all about the fun

You wouldn't let lady Drazare capture you, right Anon?

>>538376372
i'm gay

>>538377486
seek help

>mining a node
>be faggot pally comes along and tries to snag it
>keep the loot window open so he can't
>he stands there for like a minute before calling me a little bitch
>submit a GM ticket and get a response pretty much instantly
>"this is really upsetting, i thought this server had friendly players? i don't think i want to play here anymore etc"
>gm tells me he's going to give him a warning
>guy whispers me back apologizing
hahahaha suck shit dickhead, i'm gonna be the most pettiest cunt on this gay little server (because i can)

/wowg/ trollfag made some kino non-troll sloppa, not lore accurate to TurtleWoW
https://files.catbox.moe/niz76q.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/huyjle.png

>>538379209
giwtwm

is Anticipation (defense skill) good to take while leveling or is it more of an endgame thing?

>>538374798
This sounds pretty fun, just sucks you miss Sweeping Strikes for some AoE in dungeons but I'll cope with Whirlwind and Cleave.

>>538376048
I'll try prot once it unlocks Shield Slam to see if I like it, the early talents just suck so much dick.

>see someone with the name Gheed
>go up to him and /s "Good day to ya partner"
>he swivels to look at me but doesn't say anything
>ask him if he has anything good to gamble on today?
>"WHAT"
>hmm maybe he doesn't get the reference but he'd have to if he has a name like that
>"you're a long way from the Rogue camp friend"
>"I NO GAMBLE I NO ROGUE"
what the fuck

>>538369679
Are you in Ambershire or Nordanaar?

>>538378258
This never happened.

>>538379835
Nah, just get more armor

>>538379835
It's for raids only really.

omg, I love this game so much, I play it all day, every day.

what can i do with the addons that stopped working/not updated/etc. because the developers cucked out

>>538329290
>Also there is still the Grim Reaches.
The zone with both Alliance and Horde quests? What about it?

jiggly goblin titties

>>538388316
Learn how to make addons yourself. It's easier than you think.

fuck it, one last hurrah
i'll go 2h fury this time. i'll also overlevel like a cunt so i have more of a failure buffer. alch/herb instead of mining/smithing so i can chug pots i make and it feels like there's still fuck all useful shit to craft while leveling

>Rogue's talents on turtle
what is this piece of shit

>>538392321
you're a support class now, suck it up

>>538376372
>walks away from all her demons to fight us
Thanks.

>>538392670
>ambush in combat
>slice and dice in assa
>expo armor in sub
Are they having a giggle?

>>538393348
i mean backstab in combat*

>>538392321
1.17 was a point of no return when they went full retard with class changes

>>538392321
Sub is shit but combat/assassination is unironically the best melee dps specs on turtle right now.

I'm not taking aggro reducing perks and you WILL peel the mobs off me because I'm your healer

>>538262220
Avoid any caves if you are playing hardcore, they are death sentences unless you outlevel these by a lot

>>538344450
For a lot of money

>>538391142
Good luck, remember to avoid caves

>>538379209
Novel AI or SD?