Thread 538382252

flea edition

Store links:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksong
https://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_Knight

is there a 4th pale oil?

>>538382596
You get the 4th one after rescuing every flea

This is a cool crest, but holy crap the healing sucks.

do you get something for being #1 in the flea games?

>>538384073
Sense of pride and accomplishment

>>538384073
couple hundred rosary and a pale oil

>>538381002
anyone?

>>538383904
put faster healing charm on it, it comes out pretty much instantly
it's my favorite crest in the game but it heavily punishes failures in the platforming segments since you can't heal without enemies
the moveset is pure sex tho

>>538384227
did you get the one in sands of karak

Trobbio 2 is cancer

>>538383904
out trobbio tool on it too and enjoy not having to interact with enemies you don't like

>>538384347
not sure, gonna google the location and check it here

act 3 spoiler
there was a black mask here but then in disappeared after I killed the coral guy and the 3 hearts I actually needed was him, ant and mantis, why was the black mask there

maaah wiiiiiife

how does the shaman crest work? why does my heal send me downwards

reminder Hornet is used goods

>>538384681
I'm not certain, but I feel like I'm getting even less healing out of it with trobbio thingie.

what do I get for freeing the green prince? i'd rather use my 2nd key to get the flintslate from deep dicks

I CAN'T FUCKING SURVIVE MORE THAN 30 SECONDS ON PHASE 3 OF LOST LACE I'VE BEEN AT IT FOR 3 HOURS I'M SO FUCKING UPPITY RIGHT NOW

Daddy I don't wanna be in Greymoor anymore

>>538385658
time to pull out the braindead tool strats

What is worth buying here? Aside from crafting kit.

>>538385948
Ah I actually can't buy anything aside from crafting tool, nvm.

>>538385948
The key for crest
Personally her tools are not worth it

where do you find shakira in act 3?

>>538370087
>sherma is a boy
based
favorite character

>>538384978
you aren't expected to get the bug one
go to where the elevator first fell in act 2 and super jump, destroyable wall on the left

>>538386230
right entrance of bellhart

>>538385246
unless you're a virgin so are you
more importantly who do you think she bonked

How do I get into the horizontal part of this contraption?

just finished the game, about 16 hours
was fun but it gets gradually easier? just because of the weapon upgrades I guess

the hardest challenge for me wasn't even a boss, it was the last mob wave challenge thingy
fun game, but I think I liked the first one more

might do some optional stuff later on

>>538386308
lol thanks, almost finished and didn't even think to go right

Game really starts to go full fuck you once you get to Sinner's Road and Blasted Steps, huh? Sinner's definitely screams DLC content.

>>538386382
if you didn't get to act 3 you didn't actually complete the game
this isn't even elitism, there so much content you haven't actually done

>>538386381
explore cogwork

>>538386646
top right of whiteward, can be gotten before act 3

I thought I am gonna start pulling my hairs out, but finally made managed to deliver the package. Holy shit I loathe speed running. Made me still kind of proud to be honest.

>>538386651
ah alright
I'll play it on and off now I guess, because I basically "completed" it in 2 days so I'll now I'll take it slowly

>>538386246
wtf, what do the snails say when you're missing this 1 heart then?

why would i want to play this garbage when i could emulate more cooler shit that this trash is inspired by such as sotn

how do I make my silk skills stronger with shaman crest?

>people spend years hyping up the new moveset
>Silksong drops
>wah the downward slash is too hard
>go back to hollow knight moveset the first chance they get

Reminder if you use anything but the Hunter Crest you are a shitter

>>538387407
okay :)

I'm in Act 3. Once the objectives branched out I first tried to do the Coral Tower. Turns out it's just a bunch of really long and annoying arena fights in a row. I'm out. I don't know what compelled them to take the Trial of the Fool from Hollow Knight and turn it into half of the playtime of the sequel.

>>538387735
I beat that first try with witch crest. The bind is overpowered

>>538387617
i've stuck with the hunter crest the whole time but the down slash definitely has jank, sometimes i can bounce off spikes, sometimes not. not having a way to hit directly down sucks too.

>>538388480
this, it looks cool, but it makes platforming and pogoing a pain in the ass, because i keep misaligning shit and either falling to my death or getting killed by enemies

>>538387617
i'm using wanderer solely for the attack speed, i don't give a shit about which pogo i have, the platforming is fine with hunter

>>538385598
gay sob story
enjoy

Is it possible to go back to white ward from here?

>>538388480
The hitbox for the attack does not match the animation and is shorter than the full animation.

>>538388664
doesn't help that starting from blasted steps nearly all hazards deal 2 damage

>fighting a memory boss
>accidentally play the return to bell song instead of dream nail song
god dammit

>>538388765
Shit did I wonder if I forgot to activate a lever a something?

>>538387617
The default pogo is great for combat, but an absolute mess for platforming. Kinda wish we could switch on the fly

did i fuck up by killing grand mother silk? the game just end there, no act 3 whatsoever

>>538388765
I've used an elevator to get out of there. I don't think you can go back up directly.

>Red memory
Kino.

Im just thankful the run backs are no where near as bad as the blue smelter demon from ds2

tacks are flintslate with poison?

>>538389957
>sir alonne
>blue smelter
>horsefuck valley
and people complain about a few jumps and enemies before last judge

can you get the curse back? I wanna try getting the cursed ending but I got rid of the curse already

>>538390106
To be fair blue shelter and horsefuck ally were meant to be coop zones

I feel like they were way too stingy with the benefits from trinkets in Silksong. Most of them are unjustifiable when compared to the good ones when you're so starved for trinket slots.

>>538385658
Finally fucking did it all thanks to the blue lifeseed tool. Fuck my hands are shaking.
Good game, will definitely not do Steel Soul this time around. I can't imagine how few people will actually get that achievement.

Where the fuck is the key that opens the lock on the bottom left of whiteward?

I found a 0 hp bug (also graphically freaks out the silk meter)
Happens when a wraith pushes you to a new screen at the same time as it kills you.

I wish I was good at games...

>>538391323
somewhere in whiteward, iirc there's either a breakable or fake ceiling around there

>waves of adds before the boss
>unnecessary runback
i hate this shit so much just let me fight the boss
at least you get to keep your tools

is there any tool similar to mark of pride or longnail

>>538392610
The pure malice from the devs

>>538386343
given her history, one of the humanoid bees in the hive
either something like hive knight or something like vespa

>>538392827
yeah

>>538385246
lmao genuinely what was the point of including that line? it adds nothing and is never brought up again as far as I know

>>538392827
you need to beat bilewater boss first

>>538393143
is it possible to get in act 2

it's over for me
im stuck

>>538393428
yeah, it's a reward for a quest at the end of ||bilewater|| good luck

>>538393687
>||

How many attempts did it take for you to complete this?

>go to sinners road
>pay for bench
>bench stuck
i just want to SIT

>>538394047
Go to the left room and do the platforming to repair the bench

>>538394005
4
I got hit 3 times in my successful attempt and made it with like 2% time left

>>538394241
It was about ~10 attempts for me. And also made it in a nick of time.

>>538393630
errrr why don't you try the massive blank space between the egg at the top and 'Choral Chambers' text. Drop through the floor in the room with the voices who want you to sing for them or some shit. Retard

What a charming dude

>>538394993
he just likes food
at least he's not a cunt like emilitia was

There is so much fucking kino and amazing fights in act 3. I pity anyone that is going to "finish" the game and move on without experiencing it.

Things I don't like, rest is kino

>Shards as rewards are fucking awful
>Too many levers have to be rehit to open stuff, forces you to wait
>Run backs for nearly every encounter is way too long
>Env hazards and enemy contact take 2 hit points

>>538394993
wtf happened to your mask?

>>538395596
What do you mean?

>>538394005
1st try, i did the same thing as with the flower in HK
clear all the enemies on your chosen path before picking up the package, and just slowly and carefully make your way to the destination, the timer is quite lenient

>>538396156
Don't they respawn? At least some of them.

My biggest complaint is that most tools and trinkets just suck ass so there is barely any real choices you have to make.

>>538395710
why is it cracked?

>>538396649
Ah that one. You can buy it in Hunter's March, a merchant is above the the trapped bench.

>Missing one spool fragment to get a full 2 heals if fully charged
Do I have any freaking way to find out if I missed anything? I got all the shards I think? I have 9 masks atm, but I can't figure out this one.

Is it in some new area that may appear in act 3?

>>538396649
>>538396987
Forgot the screenshot

>>538397274
where'd you get that middle red lance tool

Oh my fucking god Widow's second life is cancer. Genuinely too much going on on the screen how am I meant to dodge any of this.

>>538397013
Im in the same spot but in act 3 and still haven't found the missing 2 fragments. Im guessing they're in an area i don't know how to access yet.

>slab unequips all of your crest loadouts even after you get your shit back
well that's annoying
is it possible to get captured again or is this a one-off thing? i didn't expect it to actually happen to me but i got memed on in bilewater

>>538397558
it's a gun. you find it broken behind a needolin door in bilewater. you can repair it into three different versions from three different NPCs

>>538397645
Nevermind, got her. Every time I bitch about a boss her I get them next try lmao. Also her pattern is simple after the first few I’m a moron.

Is it cheating to exit to menu and respawn at bench when stuck in some shithole with no hp?

I defeated sister splinter, now what? bellhart people are still stuck in silk

>>538398436
Post your shellwood map?

>>538398436
what do you mean "now what"? splinter didn't curse bellhart, keep playing the game
you get a new ability after splinter. use it to find a new boss above bellhart. it's not very far from splinter & the bench

Are there any homes in this one?

>>538396449
vast majority of them stay dead, and the only ones that respawn that are in your path are a non-issue, shit like birds in graymoore or those small bladed fuckos that spawn in the tunnels in underworks

>>538398520
>>538398696
can't find this new skill

How the fuck was Pharloom ever sustainable with how comically greedy and evil the system was from the outset? Pale king's kingdom is miles better by comparison, even takin into account "No cost too great" to try and stop the ultimate death of the place.

>>538399474
retard

>>538398131
>three different versions from three different NPCs
Which one is the best one?

What does Needolin interact with? Thought it was those big rounded doors like at the bottom of deep docks but it did nothing.
>>538399474
How have you not picked up these mean new skills you should have done like 4 of them by now.

>>538399474
see that huge spike thing sticking out of the ceiling in the room left of splinter? that's the same shape as the structure that gave you silkspear in mosshome

>>538387735
>I don't know what compelled them to take the Trial of the Fool from Hollow Knight and turn it into half of the playtime of the sequel.

Same reason why getting double jump is path of pain lite.

>>538389675
You need to complete a specific quest called silk and soul, getting that means you need to complete the majority of wishboard quests and possibly finding all of the fleas.

>>538399758
I'M NOT A RETARD I SWEAR

>>538399865
it interacts with the face doors, you can find them on the map with this icon
it also interacts with a few npcs besides just having them sing

>>538400334
I tried it on the one in the bottom of deep docks and it did nothing though.

>>538400434
that's a different door, if it doesn't have the icon on the map it's not for needolin, I think

>>538400434
the deep docks door is completely different and has nothing to do with the needolin

>>538400507
Got it, thanks.

>>538398334
Game allows it.

Does progressing past the cocoon icon in blasted lands forcibly move the story forward or lock you out of earlier areas? Thinking I'm about ready to push on after I farm up some more bead strings for later benches.

>did Widow in 3 attempts, Judge and Beastfly in 2
>0 issues with platforming, think i fucked up a pogo once because i sneezed and mistimed it
>completely filtered by Blighttown, explode-on-death enemies together with respawning enemies and maggots and traps and bushniggas with exploding phials
send help god

>>538401765
i think it's supposed to be utter chaos that makes you constantly panic

>>538401765
>for 2 bosses
>one is a gauntlet into the boss, hope you saved your tools~

>>538399474
Ok, I found the Widow, but do they really expect me to walk from the same bench as Silk Sister? These motherfuckers i swear.

Guess how I died to that boss

>>538402590
there's a shortcut

>>538402696
3 fucking masks of damage, and doesn't count as a win for you. Yeah, the second part is just a cunt move.

>>538402590
>>538402832
I'm so tired. I literally just defeated silk sister now they want me to fight another boss.

>>538403343
I killed them before killing 1 of the bosses on the markers and the snails accepted their heart, and then I went and killed that last marker boss and that heart became a memento

>>538403438
then don't fight her, explore somewhere else

>>538403438
the widow is a lot more fun in all regards, it's a good boos

>>538403824
>flying shuriken guys in sinners road
>deflect their shurikan
>no damage
>the shurikan ragdolls on top of you
>1 damage and a tagger
now thats a little much guys

I am the the greymoor flying moth boss . Are there any tips to make this fight easier? i already got the nearby reaper crest.

Architect crest is the most fun crest in the game:
>drill is cool, charged attack is godlike
>a lot of tools are fun and effective
>normal healing unlike beast or witch
>nice set to slots
But relying on tools surely burns through the shards stock. Shard pendant makes manageable during exploration, but bosses put me at zero pretty quickly.

>>538402948
this game needs to be rebalanced
i get that they want you to use all these new movement options and tools, but it's so annoying when trying to experiment because enemies are hyper aggressive and do so much damage

>>538404394
>this game needs to be rebalanced
It's not likely as the soulslike community is having a field day calling everyone a faggot if they find the game too hard.

>>538404351
They really just need to get rid of shards entirely
I have no idea why they want players to grind so much
Also there's no magnet for shards unlike rosaries

>>538403824
forgot to type out my reply to you. agree i liked fourth chorus for the old mega man boss vibe it gave but i think widow is my favorite boss so far. its really good boss design. first phase shows you the different clearly telegraphed attacks she has, second phase she tweaks them a little and uses them together. several ways to fight her, and her amount of health felt pretty fair.

Game falls apart after act 1.

>did the pilgrims rest secret flea jump area
>die to beetle
>do it again
>die to beetle
I just opened the fucking door and said fuck the beetle that blocks all my tools and attacks no matter where you attack from. Hopefully he's a repeatable enemy at the end of the game because he disappears after opening the gate. I was not going to do that stupid last jump for a third time.

>>538404536
Thinking about it shards really do only serve the purpose of annoying you and causing you to backtrack if you start failing.

>>538404681
Level design is trash in act 1 but it becomes good in act 2
Then act 2 lacks bosses and has too fucking many mandatory platforming on top of annoying airborne enemies

I like Bilewater's music. It doesn't fit the area at all but it's nice to have a soothing track to calm your nerves while running that gauntlet for the 50th time. It must have been intentional.

>>538404510
I wonder why there's so many souls fans playing silksong when I've seen many of them saying they haven't even finished hollow knight

>>538404510
As a Dark Souls fan, Dark Souls is 1) easy 2) mostly well balanced. I assume balanced doesn't mean it's easy, just that it isn't unnecessarily punishing or artificially increasing the difficulty.

If you want some difficult shit, go play Nioh 1. But even that is better balanced than Silksong, just hard af.

>>538402948
>>538404394
>>538403438
>>538404510
>>538404536
>>538404571
>>538404267

git gud :)

g

what triggers the eva upgrade?

>>538405124
silk hearts
the upgrades are hunter crest upgrade, +1 yellow slot, on all crests, and +1 blue slot

Idk why people are glazing the soundtrack so hard, it's...fine? Can barely hear any of the boss tracks over the fight and it's mainly just generic strings.

>>538405290
She also upgrades your original crest twice and at the end lets you bind her which enables silk regeneration in benches.

>miss journal entry in verdania
>can't go back
uhhh

>>538405290
i got all those and she still tells me to come back when im stronger

>>538405415
It's plain bad compared to HK. The only memorable track is Cogwork Core

Archtectchads rise up. You are crestmaxing right, anon?

Also I didn't know this until the last boss I killed, but you can use buff tools during the boss intro cutscene.

>That delivery to Mount Fay.
Please god tell me i don't need deliveries to get 100%.

>>538405416
i only got the crest upgrade once and im about to go "down" for the second time, i dont have much left to do

>>538405062
Because soulslike fans aren't human and just follow hype.

did you know
if you kill the great judge and die at the same time, it doesnt fucking count?

>>538405579
It's not that hard, just take your time>>538405593

is there a dash upgrade that gives iframes?

>>538405570
>100 shards to fully restock
good thing batman's a billionaire

>>538405804
Yes.

...because other anons have posted this multiple times along with screenshots kek

>>538405072
something i noticed with later dark souls games and souls like games is that it seems like they only care about combat and nothing else
DS1 had bosses that didn't rely on you just learning attack patterns finding out when you can hit them
it had bosses that required you to pay attention to the environment to defeat them
like the taurus demon having multiple arenas to fight him in, or the iron golem where you can get rid of the giants throwing shit at you or knocking him off the ledge
the only boss i found that does this is that robot in far fields

>>538405124
>>538405441
i figured it out, you have to actually use the memory lockets... i had 14 in invetory

>>538405909
No, only parry (silk skill) and charge (silk skill) have iframes
charge has long ass initial delay like desolate dive so it is kinda hard to utilize iframes
parry lasts fairly long if you parried an attack/collision

>92%
>Still missing 7 tools
What the fuck.

>>538406196
>charge
huh? where do you find that one?

>>538406203
Not all tools are from vendors or mandatory, some are in secret areas.

>>538406367
Blasted steps way on the left out in the sand, nice bug lady will teach it to you in her floating house.

WHY THE FUCK DOES THE SONGSTRESS HAVE A RANDOM PARRY
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, SHE JUST BLOCKS 50% OF YOUR ATTACKS WTF

with the barbed bracelet can you reach 4 masks of damage?

is there a 4th oil? if so where?
its hivesteel right now

>>538406809
rescue all fleas

>Find hunter's march merchant dead
>Apparently he sold some tools
Did i lose them forever?

Why does everything move like it came out of those superiors mods?

Does anyone else find dash jump unreliable/has a noticeable delay after you press jump? Other than the obvious issues we all bitch about, this shit has been the bane of my existence.

>>538407178
I meant to say superboss.

>seamstress and pinstress are sisters
>seamstress gave up violence to create
>pinstress holds onto what remains of what she's lost

Can you even get all tools in one playthrough? The Silkshot has two different entries depending on who you give the broken weapon to.

>>538406936
already did that just unlocked the minigames for me? or is it a reward for winning them all

>>538407878
Yeah go win all three games

>>538407847
really?
what do the other ones look like?

>>538407847
game treats silkshot variants as the same thing

>>538408002
I gave it to the architect in underworks and she gave me a multishot gun. A friend gave it to the smith in deep docks and he got a single shot gun instead. Not sure if there are more options.

Do you lose anything if you don't fight the moorwing in Greymoor? Because it didn't show up for me.

what's with this corner right before the Last Judge, and these eyes?
also, is there a closer bench, I'm breaking my fking balls just getting here

>>538408627
end game area

>>538405570
Does the poison actually feel like it increases your total damage with the tools? I remember the dung synergies in HK1 made basically no difference, just lower base damage redistributed into DoT

>>538408450
it's a sidequest on the wishboard, it doesn't just show up

>Doing the escape sequence in the abyss
>Running from lava
>Get hit by it on a platform that saves my progress
>Game absolutely refuses to let me double jump despite just jumping off the floor
Is there just something fucky with the coding for double jump? I jumped off a few walls that just forgot that I had double jump afterwards and let me free fall.

>>538408981
It definitely felt noticeable to me with the cogflies

>>538409429
I see

>>538395125
the act 2 final boss is too easy I think everyone will intuit that they need to continue. 25 fleas is too much though it should be 20 thats my one balance whine.

S********** K******** is the most kino fight I have ever played in a video game.

Apparently you can finish act 1 through either Blasted Steps OR The Mist? I guess the former is the normal way and The Mist is the hidden way?
Does the path you choose change anything important?

>>538409926
not really.

>>538409462
could be a bug
i remember encountering one early game when fighting lace
when i tried to get my silk back, hornet froze in place and lace kept attacking but not doing any damage

Where do I use the Craw summons? Or was it just to reach the green guy?

>>538411076
it's before him
you go back to that arena where you fought all the birds
there is a locked door on the right

>>538411204
ty

>>538411076
just read nigga. Its hard to find.

beyond the 3 that get marked on the map, how many hearts are there total? I only managed to find 4

>>538400334
WHAT
Genuine question, are you supposed to just find this out by trying to play it everywhere that looked like a blocked path? Do they tell you this somewhere or anything?
I've only used it to make people sing and at/around some of the areas that have music signs. Nothing has happened except ghosts and singing.

Is the poison charm even worth it? Where do I get the tacks?

>>538411678
Poison charm is op

>>538408981
I installed a healthbar to test this and it does work
using the silkshot, it does 10 damage, with the poison it still does 10 damage + 2x2 poision damage
some things to mention, I have 2 tool damage upgrades so I don't know if that changes the numbers, but the base nail is 5 damage and the first upgrade is 8 damage, poison is worth it

>>538411631
they tell you this the moment you get it

>>538411678
Its unironically the biggest dps boos you can get outside barbed bracelet. Game is very anal to any damage upgrades in general.

>>538411631
Those doors have harps in the background as a hint to play something. There is another past the fourth chorus boss fight that gives you a charm.

>>538411631
>are you supposed to just find this out by trying to play it everywhere that looked like a blocked path?
well no, that would be stupid and would make no sense
a regular locked door? why the fuck would music open it?
a magically sealed door built by the weavers? might be needolin time

>>538411631
i randomly discovered it while exploring that area. First door i found in far forest but didnt have needoline at that point. It was cleat you need some sort of upgrade to open it.

>>538411678
Tacks are from a quest in sinners road, top of the room two rooms to the right of the bench. The two bugs in the house want you to kill roach dogs for meat, tacks are the reward. Triple pin throw is also really good shotgun attack for clearing groups of flying enemies.

>>538411631
You can play music for enemies as well to stop them in their tracks and have them sing for you.

>Hear so many complaints online about this boss called The Last Judge and how dire the runback is to it
>Getting antsy as I'm fighting enemies in a new area called Judges and figure I must be pretty close to it
>Reach the boss
>The runback is 30 seconds at most
>The boss itself is extremely fair with well telegraphed attacks and plenty of opportunity to run away and heal
>Beat it within about ten tries
I'm beginning to think the people moaning about this game's level of bullshit have genuinely never played a videogame before

>>538411925
>>538412050
>>538412063
>>538412126
fugg
I don't remember them looking like or having harps anywhere. Maybe I'm actually retarded.

>>538411631
In the subconscious area after you unlock the Needolin they make you play it to open a door that looks just like those faces dude

STOP SWAPPING MY CREST JUST BECAUSE I UNLOCK/UPGRADE ANOTHER ONE

>tfw Mother Silk gives you all her silk so you can launch from the bottom of the abyss
ngl that was pretty fucking good

>>538412429
>The runback is 30 seconds at most
wtf do you mean, the runback's so bad, you have to do parkour with those drillfucks that spawn in the middle of your jumps

>>538413108
You only have to run past 2 of them and you can do it before they even spawn in

>>538402014
It does a good job at it, i swapped back to Reaper from Wanderer to have a bigger pogo hitbox
>>538402072
I only ever use tools for bosses, so yeah

Can I get a hint as to access act 3? I thought it would've came from the boss behind the apostate key door and I even used the spell they give against the final boss and nothing happened, that was my last lead and I don't really feel like running through the entire map.

>>538412429
I don't understand why the judge is the problem boss for these people.
>>538413108
Just don't get hit, try varying your approach until you find one that you can consistently get past them without having to actually kill everything on the way back. The way I see it, if you're dying a lot you have plenty of opportunity to practice.

>>538413509
>reaper
>delay on pogo

>>538413339
until you fail the last bell jump and he's in the middle of the tunnel with an undodgeable ricochet drill and takes 4 hits to kill

>>538413630
I take a delay i can deal with with good positioning over missing my pogo and eating shit in that area

>>538413650
>failing a fucking pogo jump with reaper and wanderer available
no joke man, i can kinda understand that people have trouble parkouring with the Hunter Crest, but both downward swipes together with your umbrella cloak make pogoing stuff like this a joke

>>538413835
at this point juts go back to hunter.

>>538385246
well in this game she gets raped anyways

>>538414050
Hunter will forever stay untouched and unupgraded.

>>538413630
I swear you get a little extra height with reaper.

>>538401765
The respawning enemies are really easy to bait and get health back from, just play slower and watch what they do, you literally can just jump over them and whack them a few times, it's very telegraphed. You can farm for silk/health on them to get rid of the maggots.
The ghillie suit guys I have no answer for at the moment other than spam tools or just run.

>>538385246
she cant get past over John Hollow Knight

>>538387407
if you play Silksong you will feel embarrassed at how long you clung to dead zero challenge one-dimensional meme games like sotn.

>>538413537
find 25 fleas

>>538414028
I am using the hunter crest, and parkour is fun for me, but not when I wanna fight a boss and there's wind against me, and I'm rushing because I wanna get past the spawning enemies

>>538413650
use the cloak

>>538412429
these people start crying after two attempts. i dont know where they came from. my only explanation is they beat a pantheon in HK1 and thought they should be able to breeze through this game with zero challenge for some reason.

>>538414603
Well, this anon nailed it >>538414640
Do a bit of adjusting for Hunter pogo and thats it

why did he do it?

>>538414350
silksong has a lot of problems unironically. I cant remember game with such boring and uninspired progression and upgrades. There are pretty much no builds due to how weak and boring tools and trinkets are. Actual gearing is a big downgrade from hk. And its not even better in movement department. Harpoon is great addition but they took away second dash upgrade so contact damage stays a persistent issue.

>>538414679
I think alot of the online frustration comes from Act 1 being so extremely difficult from the getgo, comparatively to other vanias
You'd think nothing would do more than 1 damage except the Judge and whatevers in Sinner's Road and onwards, since those are "secret areas" and meant to be challenging
You can make arguments for specific enemies too, but so much in Act 1 does 2 damage that it just feels ass, especially with the lack of Harpoon and people starting with Hunter Pogo

>just permanently lost a mossberry in weavenest atla because it fell in spikes
?????????? Why are spikes instantly deleting all drops why the fuck did they design it like this

i've been playing it with the fling trainer and it's pretty fun
i have infinite money and infinite jumps and things and it removes a lot of the retardation out of the game
this sequel has been inflicted with the same disease that made elden ring mediocre

game trainers are a fun way to make bad games more enjoyable

>>538415249
it respawns.

>>538415076
silksong has massively better movement. try going back to hk1. no iframes on dash and contact damage are good things you have to respect bosses the entire game which de-homogenizes gameplay.

>>538415302
pathetic

>>538415318
Thank fuck.

>>538415140
vanias have been slop for at least the past five years. my main A1 complaint is that 4th chorus is babby tier, I was actually worried that Silksong would disappoint then Lace showed up and all was right with the world.

>>538415532
I haven't played HK actually, my most recent Vanias were Bloodstained and Blasphemous 1+2
And Super Metroid X-Fusion if you count that
I found alot of bosses in Blasphemous 2 harder than what i dealt with in Silksong so far, it's the areas that are extremely rough

I wanted to beat Phantom before I finished act 1 but I'm getting wrecked, I might have to give up for now

>>538415913
Relax and take it slow, even in Phase 3 she is actually very slow as far as bosses go
Use Hunter for its Dash-Attack to get easier hits in

please someone tell me you don't need to do all arenas in sequence without dying in Coral Tower for one of the hearts
there's a shortcut, right?

convince not to use a guide to find the mask shards

>>538415745
>I haven't played HK actually
why did you even start silksong then? bizarre

>>538415140
game became too much "platformie". In hk those anal gauntlets were strictly optional and were never part of main progression. silksong puts way too much attention on jump gauntlets and gates major quest behind. Like pretty much area has some sort of anal gauntlet and every "end game" area has a fucking path of pain on steroids. There is nothing wrong platforming and there are plenty hardcore platformers on the market but 1-2 minutes of run back just to retry 1 jump in a sequence of 50 jumps that spans 2 screen is absolutely retarded. People will drop this game not from bosses or overused meme arenas they drop from platforming.

>>538416040
Yes, there is a shortcut at some point

>>538416263
I wouldn't complain about parkour pogo sections into a gauntlet or boss fight if the reward was more than 120 shards or 120 bead rosary.

>>538416263
i guess platforming is too hardcore for /vg/. maybe gacha is more your speed.

what is the word Hornet keeps saying during fights?
it sounds like "friend" or something .. idk

OK, I take back my complaint about Last Judge's runback, just beat her and it was kinda easy.
Where the fuck is phase 3 though? One of you said there was a phase 3 but all I saw was a really long swinging flame and then it was back to normal

>>538415302
i see what you mean
i don't think SS is a bad game, but it does need something like a screwattack and hornet needs to swing faster 100% of the time

Healthbar mod, thoughts?

>weavelight charm
>increases speed of silk regeneration
Okay what does it mean by that exactly?

>>538416128
Sexbug
Some years ago i also said "eh i'll play HK whenever Silksong comes out" and yeah, here we are
>>538416263
I agree honestly, i'm not having any trouble with them so far, but they're getting pretty stale, some areas are designed like shit i'd find in the Blasphemous Bloodstained DLC
>>538416451
>reading comprehension

>>538416473
When she heals, she says VREN!

>>538416716
Thx

>>538416684
the two shitry pips you get when your bar is empty. its only useful for 'poon seauences.

>>538416830
Oh well that’s fucking garbage. Couldn't even be like extra silk on hit or something.

>>538416943
what did you actually expect fucking silk regen? Fool!

Phantom was probably the most fun I had in the game.

>>538385074
I miss her autistic rambling

>>538416830
That's what it means? What the fuck, I thought it was like the Soul Catcher from HK. I've had it on the whole fucking game!

How in the hell do I get into this secret passage? Am I meant to pogo, because the enemy is very uncooperative.

>game is so hard the community is crying for nerfs
>journalists are giving it perfect scores
LOOOOOL

>>538417023
so far. there's a kino only .5% of the player base has gotten to to fight.

can someone remind me where I can turn rosaries into rosary necklace (120)?
it was the machine thingy

I hate moorwing. I hate him.

>>538393315
It adds to her personality and history you clod.

>>538417376
shopkeeper in bellfast does it for me

>>538417376
I think bellhart has a 120 one at the shop?

>>538417376
Vendor in bellhart. The machine to the right of halfway home is a 60 bead stringer.

>>538394005
Killed the enemies on the path and did it in 1. Now the mountain one is scaring me.

>>538417458
>>538417513
>>538417518
thanks, that works too
the machine is somewhere in the citadel I think

>>538416040
You get one after the first 3. A fucking trash area btw, we actually got scammed. it is not even an proper zone.

tool bros... we're so back

>>538418086
you dont need to do coral tower if you do Green Prince quest line.

>>538418086
this, i was so disappointed at that
it's the most visually interesting too

>>538418165
>doubles ammo usage

I wanna drop this game

>>538418165
where did you get it

>>538404747
I just ran away to corridor on the right and spammed my needles on him.

>>538418437
bilewater round 2

So can you upgrade any other crests or is it just the Hunter's one?

>>538418964
only hunter 2 times.

Had to look up the last 4% i was missing but thats it lads. Great game, don't think the difficulty complaints were as bad as people are saying. Some runbacks were bad but the worst one (bilewater) was kind of intentionally annoying. I can only recall 3 other instances of long-ish runbacks among the huge amount of bosses.

What the fuck man

Putrefied Ducts are sooo much worse than Bilewater.

>>538420281
not even close retard.

What the fuck man

>>538420434
Bilewater is easy if you take your time. The enemies are all pinatas.

I hate this "if it's bigger than hornet, it deals 2 damage" bullshit.
it's literally just inflated difficulty

How do I get to those beads?

>>538420715
Dont worry, once you hit act 2 little guys can hit for 2 too.

>>538420956
pogo off top bell and dash

>>538420281
petrefied ducks is a fifteen minute zone. its barely there and the bulk of it is a single room. Bilewater is one of the longest.

How long did it take you guys to get used to the double jump in combat and exploration? After using the cloak for 12 hours, I'm now jumping into fucking spike ceilings or missing where I want to go above the enemy constantly.

>>538420956
Climb up the top left, dash/clawline/glide over.

>dice minigame in blasted steps
cute & comfy

>>538421085
>double jump and float on the same button
>pogo is 3 button combo
>one is down so it always messes with movent
>tools are 2 buttons combo with silk skill
control scheme is made by retards (team cherry)

i hate the cockroach dog thing in sinner's road with all of my being.

OK, I'm 16 hours and just got kidnapped.
Am I locked out of other areas?

>>538421450
The tools make a little more sense after unlocking multiple. Hated it at first, it's manageable now.

what controller are you guys using and d pad right? I only ever played fps games growing up and seeing people do perfect pogoing on heads is baffling to me

>>538421661
Im using an xbox one controller and i use the analog instead. I hate its d-pad.

>>538421607
for now, yes
you need to get your shit back and escape

>>538421661
8bitdo with the snes looking front face. d pad is good.

>>538421661
I'm using a xbox dpad because I am insane.

>>538421661
dualshock 3 that i've owned for more than a decade

I barely caught this. Nice try you tricky motherfuckers

>>538422215
caught what? the bellway really is down there

>theres a secret room a screen above the high halls bench that lets you reduce the spawns for the arena
Damn thats awesome, needs double jump though.

>got the charge slash
>it's different for every crest
this game keeps impressing me and i'm not even done with act 1

>>538422786
i cant believe I brute forced that room. i'm such a god gamer.

>>538421661
using a white label xbox controller, using the sticks for movement and parkour
not kidding, this shit cost me 10$ and it's the best controller I've ever used, I've used like 20 playstation controllers from official to not, from 5$ to 70$ and all of them broke and had defects that this one doesn't

>>538422493
You enter this room through the top left so you don't see this sign until you've already move through the room. The Bellway symbol is always the 3 arrows pointing to the right. They deliberately hung it immediately next to a door on the right side of the screen that leads to more of Bilewater. You would naturally see the white arrows and go that way rather than notice the sign indicating the Bellway is down further and the sign just awkwardly above the wrong door. It would be like putting an exit sign above a door that leads to a basement but the exit sign also has a little arrow pointing to the actual exit

Knight's magic
>ASS FUCK EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF ME
>ASS FUCK EVERYTHING ABOVE ME
>ASS FUCK EVERYTHING BELOW ME WHILE I SWIM IN IFRAMES
Hornet's ""magic""
>ummm so i'm about to do a triple slash aoe PLEASE don't move away few inches or it would miss, PLEASE i spent 30 minutes gathering focus for this

>>538423883
I cant believe that fucker charged us to kill ants.

>>538423691
>You enter this room through the top left
did you get there via an act 2 area? i came in from the right (the door in your screenshot) because i entered bilewater from sinner's rise in act 1

So once you get past the last judge there are a few areas to go through. Anything cool or noteable unlock in the act 1 areas?

>>538423907
The spells wouldn't be so bad if healing wasn't so fucking important in a game where you're constantly getting chunked for 2 masks.

>>538423907
i struggled with magic in hollow knight 1, always felt like i was wasting precious healing juice and it wasn't worth the damage
hornet doesn't just have silk skills, she also has tools which are separate from the silk meter so you can use them without losing heals

>>538424086
Yeah, I finished Sinner's Rise and saw this bullshit looking Valley of Defilement area and was like "I'll come back later after the Blasted Steps."
Kept playing Act 2 and found a different entrance from the vault.

>>538424158
JK pushed ahead and met Lace again so now I have enemies to fight, and completed my enemy log incidentally for Nuu. As soon as I can find a fast travel we are made in the shade.

>got my first simple key
Okay, work ways or whatever they’re called, or the door under the first silk fight?

>>538421661
Do anons just not use keyboard and mouse?

>>538423907
Hornet is a proper lady and would never ass fuck something

>>538421661
i use MnK with Attack on M1 and Skill on M2, got used to the controls from Blasphemous

>>538425246
That sounds extremely painful.

>>538425091
Wormways because Cresto

>>538425023
>Nuu gives tool pouch increase
Nice.

>>538425246
i'm so dogshit at using a controller i often forward slash when i want to pogo, so i switch to keyboard. iirc i use keyboard as well for the first HK.

>>538425809
Keyboard is very good for precise inputs, might be the reason platforming has been so incredibly easy for me compared to seemingly everyone else

>>538425091
deep docks

Bros I wish Witch didn't have hit to heal. The moveset is so good but healing sucks ass even with the amount of damage it does. Enemies either back out of range or attack you when you get that close.

>>538423907
the only good spell locked behind behind act 3, abyss and jump gauntlet.

I think I'm gonna see this guy in nightmares.

>>538421661
I’m using a controller known as the keyboard.

>>538425091
if you go through wormways you can sequence break and skip a boss, also you get the downslash+quickslash crest

Some guy is Hunters March tried to cage me, but I killed him. Did I miss something cool?

no one rocking the beast crest?

>>538426651
yes.

>>538426496
i beat him by getting really wet. glad the ost for that fight is so good.

>>538426651
Yeah. Unique sequence and early look at a late area.

>>538426496
Its not even that hard of a fight but knowing what awaits you if you die really gets you.

>>538426651
yes, you missed the rape sequence.

>>538426651
He shows up in other places i think. You can also eventually find a key to walk right into the place where he would take you.

>>538426651
same as the kung fu sackmasters in bloodborne that steal you away to the gaol, has a cool escape sequence with a unique gauntlet.

>>538426651
I got grabbed by him in Greymoor near the bellway station

>>538426820
Well sure you can avoid a lot stuff by staying in the water, but it means no healing which sucks. I've been mostly hugging corners.
>>538426895
The run back is absolutely miserable. This boss would've been way more manageable if there was a convenient shortcut.

jesus christ, was wisp thicket another way into the citadel? i had to look up where the final flea was. that boss reward is cute but not worth the silk drain especially since im already silk taxing on two other items.

turns out you are supposed to do the cold mountain area under the cold. i was searching for an ability/item to counteract the cold.

>Finally find a spell focused crest
>Its at the end of the fucking game
They should've given every crest in act 1.

>>538428017
They should pull a circle of the moon and have different ng+ modes with alternate starting quests.

>>538427976
The item you get at the end also keeps you warm.

>>538426651
Theres another cage guy by the fast travel in greymarsh, not sure what triggers it though.

>round 15 on moorwing
I hate him. Sometimes I miss hitting him by a tiny amount and the game punishes me for it.

>>538428246
*crests, not quests

Do the different crests have different damage values for their movesets? As in, does a regular attack with reaper's crest do more damage than the regular attack with wanderer's crest?

These are NOT the sounds of a boy...
For those without the audio extension: https://files.catbox.moe/19r3e2.webm

Beat the game, true ending and all, 87% completion. 40 hours.
It's like Dark Souls 2 if Dark Souls 2 were still good. They took a lot of things that people loved about the first game the wrong way, but the game still came out a really good game. I'd give it a 9/10 if I was a pathetic game reviewer.
Best fight in the game is Act 3 Skarrsinger. Overall there were some cool fights but I feel they kind of gave up on designing bosses in some places and just threw a fucking enemy gauntlet. But then you have bosses that are extremely out of the way so what do I know.

Most insane thing is that
Act 3 is 33% of the game basically and you have to do fucking nearly everything to get to it, including all the Bilewater bullshit. So many normies are going to never reach act 3.
Also
Shoutout to Void brother coming in at the end for the clutch save. I love how the achievement is "Sister of the Void".

jesus fuck this gauntlet just never ends. there are like 10 waves of enemies.

>>538428868
Oh also Expedition 33 still GOTY for me, although this was great and Nightreign surprised me how much me and friends loved it.

>>538428691
Sherma is a girl.

>>538429002
apparently there is a secret room that lets you lower the amount of enemies above the bench? havent checked it out though

>>538428512
What annoyed me the most was him wiggling in the air and just clipping you with the hitbox. Made it so I only wanted to bait the charge attack so I could pogo from above.

>>538428868
One more thing: This game has way too many fucking flying enemies. And ALL of them, even the fucking mosquitos, do that thing where you jump at them and they dash/float backwards to play keepaway with you. This is fine for a few enemies but it's like 90% of all flying enemies do this shit. It's incredibly frustrating to play against and annoying as hell.

I thought the claw shot would fix this but claw shotting a flying enemy is just asking to get hit by a projectile or their hitbox.

>some people played through not finding the hand grenade
ngmi
surprised by how little you get from the forge lady for tools, trailer had me expecting HK1 vendors where you go back to them across most of the game

>>538429037
https://www.teamcherry.com.au/hk-physical-late-anniversary-celebration-silksong-mini-update/
>Sherma’s path may often cross with Hornet’s own, but his lack of combat and acrobatic prowess can land him in desperate need of aid.
Sherma is a "boy"

>>538429525
meme. Cogfly is the best tool in the game and its not even close.

Feeling a bit stuck. What should I do next? Vidrel is my map. I didn't go to the far right yet since warrior girl said I shouldn't due to flying enemies.

Also, is there anything special about Reaper's Crest? If feels slower than the default and the diagonal dash is less dashy. Does it have some advantage?

>>538428691
Sherma is certainly voiced by a female voice actor. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter, but some bugs just have voices that don’t match their actual sex.

>>538429671
I stopped using them in the last 20% of the game because the bosses got good and I didn't want to cheese them. They're legit just cheating.

>>538429738
>huge ass quest quest marker in Bellhart
>what do i do next

>>538429975
>using tools the game give you is cheating
this isn't elden ring bwo...

Is this for some wish I haven't unlocked yet?

Best place to farm shards and rosaries in act 2?

>>538430097
How does one reach the marker? Is there a hidden path?

>>538430417
for me it's the room near the cog dancer boss. the big knight enemy drops 32 rosaries each and there are 5 of them.

>>538428868
that fight is the best fight in ANY game.

>>538429738
>>538430552
you beat the splinter boss, so now you can get the wallclimb and go to the top right of shellwood to enter the top of bellheart

Why did they make Mother Silk so hot? Is this how Hornet will look in the future?

>beat Widow
>think "Wow, what a cool boss! I hope we get a harder version in the DLC!"
>reach First Sinner
I TAKE IT BACK I TAKE IT BACK I TAKE IT BACK

>>538428691
Sherma is a femboy, like most of Hornet's mates.

>>538429435
On the way to him I noticed the flying guys can dodge your pogo in a decision designed only to frustrate.

I always forget I have like 1k rosaries in string, every time I reach a new place "totally broke" I have to grind to buy the bench and map when I could've just busted a string, stupid me!
they should remind you you have them

You guys who hate Bilewater are aware there is an anti maggot charm, right?

>>538430264
Yeah, its just shitty lore fluff.

What I'm getting from my horrid Silksong performance is to take a break and play the original first.

>>538431580
that wont really help you. the biggest crybabies who want to nerf silksong all beat hk1.

>the knight shows up
I basedfaced

>>538428691
it's the sounds of a cute boy
i told you guys hornet makes friends with little bug boys

>>538429002
>die to mini-boss
>"damn, I'll try again."
>beat mini boss
>another wave
>"Haha, nice fakeout. Very clever."
>another wave
>another wave
>another wave
>another wave
>2 mini bosses
Fuck this shit.

>>538431548
Let me guess, shows up after bilewater right?

Hardest fight so far yet, fuck this Ant queen. She has counterplay for literally anything. I won by rushing at her with wanderer + burn application.

can the void masses for the Dark Hearts quest spawn anywhere?

>>538433228
You can get to it 2 ways, 1 is after Bilewater but 1 (needs double jump) goes through an act 2 zone. So you can grab it first.

>>538428691
When the hell does this happen?

Do you die if you press the wrong input on the Phantom QTE? I thankfully didn't mess it up

>>538429161
>>538429002
Yes, you can go to the room covered in silk above the bench to the left. You move the carriage and double jump up. This will get rid of the silk stealing enemies.

>>538432726
Was that the ghost or Hollow Knight? Or both?

>Every enemy and boss in the game reacts to attacks by immediately counterattacking
Did HK1 do this? You can see this easily by using cogflys, they make enemies go berserk and never stop attacking.

>>538433246
Like a lot of the endgame bosses, the play is to wait and punish them instead of going at them.

Toss up between Widow and pic related for best fight so far. Took a few tries but I got into a flow state near the end.

>>538433302
if the enemies are already black when you show up that means there's one in the screen you're in

>>538430820
>>538398696
Thanks you two (I see another anon also got stuck here earlier in the thread).
After I beat SplintSis I got to picrel, but I couldn't figure out how to go up, so I just went left, and even though wormways.
After going back to picrel from ya'll advice, I now see there's a tiny ledge there under the flower that I missed.
I have wallcling now. Thanks!

>the map stays voidfucked with tentacles everywhere even after you beat act 3
I was really really hoping it'd go back to normal. The constant shrieks and pulsating noises ruin the atmosphere of basically every area.

>>538433920
I somehow got into the "flow state" with one health left and became untouchable. Probably my favorite fight so far

Is there just nothing you can do for the sake of sinner in the slab, and the guy who refuses to stop running to be able to enter the citadel?

>>538433967
can they respawn in the same place?

>>538420235
Now do it all again, 10 hours faster.

>>538433246
thats the best fight. if you dont learn that one properly why even play this game?

>poison cogflies
I beat the game

Does anyone know the track title off the OST that is used for the arena battles in the early/mid game?

>>538434621
I did learn how she moves, I just fucking suck at timing my jumps against the spike move, which she can change at a dime into a spin to fuck you up mid air.

>died to the solo Cogwork Dancer at the end
Boy that was embarrassing

>>538434965
That bitch could also spin one way and throw the spikes the complete opposite way. That got me a couple of times.

>>538430915
hard if you fight her fair. dont fight her fair. introduce her to some poison cogwork wheels

It looks like there's an opening up here, is there a way for me to get up there?

>>538435364
Yes.

>Green prince quest
GAY BUGS ARE CANON, WOKE GAME

>>538435436
It's ok because Hornet views it as potential narcissism to love something too similar to yourself.

>>538435436
two of the nailmasters were pretty gay in HK1.

At some point these devs really needed to stop huffing their own farts

>>538435582
Also lesbian mantis flower quest.

>>538435436
But you kill him and rip out his heart.

>>538435436
are you telling me I wasted a key to get a gay quest?

>>538408360
3rd variant near one the benches on the mountain it's a laser gun

>>538435571
Hornet is a jealous hag who seeks solace through sex.

>>538435626
this one is a progression roadblock where you can avoid this by unlocking all the other maps and doing shakra's quest or (according to this thread) by having the double jump and lowering the number of adds. ofc I thought the game was just trolling me so I used tacks and cogflies to bruteforce it.

>>538435409
Do I need to come back to it? I finished this area but don't see any way to get in there after looping through it a few times and hitting all the walls / floors

>>538394005
i can't even do it; can't see a path from there to the kitchen without taking the bellbug. though i managed to get to the citadel gate going through blasted steps.

>>538435967
If you keep progressing through act 3 you'll know when you can come back.

>in putrefied ducts you can hit the mosquitos into barnacle tentacles and they scream as they are eaten
Soooooo satisfying

>>538436078
Thanks anon. I'm still in act 2 so I'll try later

>the middle of act 2
>still only 1 weapon upgrade
>Still only 1 health upgrade
>two more health pieces are locked behind bullshit tier fly miniboss and outrageous sum of money
>the next weapon upgrade is locked behind a sprawling side quest that requires a ton of money and by the looks of it another movement upgrade
>constantly getting completely useless spools because your silk pool is going to be drained by doing a ton of clawlines to get anywhere
They really fucked up the feeling of progression in this game
They also fucked up the focus system by giving clawline a silk cost so you can barely even generate enough to heal between encounters
Fucking garbage

>>538433816
yeah hk had some enemies react but not in every single area. most were just doing their thing and were easy pickings when you know how they move.

>>538436379
I haven't gotten the clawline yet but I already got the health upgrade you were bitching about, just fucking nut up and do it.

>>538421661
gamesaar g7 se
the d-pad is pretty bad honestly but it's easier on my hands than kb

>>538436379
>found oil in citadel
>locked behind switch
pls sit just a drop of oil

Do i need double jump for desert of kharaz? There is an sharp acorn thing i cant seem to reach

>>538436379
>Still only 1 health upgrade
Have you tried playing the game instead of rushing main story?

maybe the real hollow knight was the friends we made along the way

>>538436379
You can get oil without the food quest.

>TFW the music during Seth fight
Really cool moveset. Felt pretty fun.

>>538421661
>>538436836
I have a Gamesir too but KB controls feel smoother and more intuitive to me. Maybe I'm just used to it after HK1.

>>538437662
he pissed me off. too much teleportation and too male. but he was a good fight unlike whatever the fuck that thing after him was.

>>538437583
I've explored pretty much everything i came across and banged every single god damned wall for secrets

>>538437662
>Sands of Karak
Eat your heart out, Path of Pain.

>>538437782
My 7 masks tell me you lie, and I barely started exploring Citadel.

>3 mask damage attacks
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>538437990
I don't think those exist. Are you wearing the charm that ups damage?

>>538437798
Didn't mean to reply.

>>538438056
i know of at least two. meemaw's shiny attack and groal's big suck.

>>538438056
The Last Judge explosion and Silk.

>>538437983
Then you grinded money for simple keys

>>538438172
>>538438215
huh, I should probably keep better track of my health bar

worse than needing 4 hits for flies and 8 hits for medium enemies is the constant backstepping, stop fucking running

Shell shards shouldnt exist and tools should just refill at benches. You know I'm right.

>see shitters complain about Moorwing everywhere
>why, he's an Act 2 boss
>google
>turns out shitters ignore flea quest and fight him right after reaching Greymoor
Based Team Cherry dabbing on braindead Skyrim marker niggers

>>538438449
Absolutely. I refuse to grind and simply spending all my tools between checkpoints completely drained my shards midway through citadel.

>Nyleth
What the fuck was that?

>>538438302
>he had to grind to get simple keys
Like I said. Try playing the game, sweetie.

I cannot wait for the shitstorm when shitters get to the high halls gauntlet in a week.

>>538438587
Surprisingly easy is what it was.

>>538438695
You have to grind for them if you simply progress through. Otherwise everything will be spent on charms and unlocks.

>adds shoot a 2 damage lava ball that lingers on the ground
I'm losing my fucking mind holy shit.

>>538439209
Use the magma bell to reduce fire damage

>>538438587
If she had more than 3 attacks she would've been the worst boss in the game. Fighting without a floor is always aids.

>the cogwork dancers sing if you play your needolin
God this game is so fucking charming.

Where the hell is the second key for Whiteward anyway? The one inside of the actual place.

>>538438587
was she a kickstarter character? she looks like rayman or something. i appreciate that they put a real fight Seth right in front of her so you dont feel cheated.

>>538439672
You need the clawshot (needle that lets you hang from hoops). There's a mechanism you can use the clawshot on on the eastern side of the ward above the guys with the scissors. It drops a bunch of shit then a dead body and it has the key.

>dancers are cool, wish there was a harder version
>it's too hard

Really praying they add a dreamgate equivalent via dlc updates, there are some pain in the ass spots that are far from travel points.

I almost have a thousand rosaries just from the runback of the dancers, pretty good farming spot

How do I get more pollip hearts? I have 4 right now, and I need more for that...thing. alling itself Greyroot.

>>538440656
I won it first try on my end. The one I actually struggled with was the fucking Ant queen.

>>538440935
You can find every single one in Shellwood. Look out for any purple roses, its a sign one is near.

What went so RIGHT?

>>538440935
If you see purple leaves falling in the background, then it's above you, but honestly just look it up online if you already sprawled through the map
Scavenger hunt fetch quests where you have to find every single one in a whole zone has got to be one of the worst kinds of quests

>Use silk soar on a spot in the ward
>Find some type of torture contraption that activates with weaver song
>Voices sound like someone wondering why they must go through such insane torture
>Right of it is a room with insane piles of dead bodies and a choral commandment
Man Pharloom is fucked up.

this was KINO, absolute cinema, I spent like a minute just watching

If you didnt give Hornet's house red paint your save is BRICKED

>Go collect this roach meat
>Go collect 35, 10 and 15 pieces of meat from super specific kills, with the most annoying zig zag enemy in the whole game + sniper aim, and a giant one
>To find this, go find that, strip bugs naked, strip fancy bugs naked
Too many farming repetitive quests.

Interactions between Green Prince and Hornet are just too funny
>Mind your business
>You're trespassing now die

>>538442226
bellhart hoa will not approve of you painting it any color but brass

We moving on up.

>>538441008
>>538440656
I thought the Green Prince version was actually easier than the base one.

Reminder that you didn't win if you used cogflies or tacks

I got the singing upgrade, and I'm using it in the Far fields locked area. But it just repeats the text. Am I doing something wrong? I don't understand.

>>538442519
>there are multiple art assets for your bell while it's being painted
So much SOUL in the game

>>538442909
Jokes on you, poison sawblades and triple pins are plenty cheesy for me

>>538442909
Add poison. That shit is what truly makes cogflies and most other tools broken. It wasn't even hard to get IIRC.

>>538442909
I rarely used tools at all because my RB is fucked and i kept using spells instead.

>>if you don't artificially handicap yourself by not using tools the devs give you, you're cheating
we get it, you still aren't over magic or bleed users beating elden ring
nobody cares

Does starting Act 2 lock out previous areas?

>>538443412
Nope

>>538443412
No.

>>538443412
No. There's a not much missable stuff honestly. I won't say there's nothing missable but even up until the very end of True Ending I was able to go almost everywhere and do every quest.

>>538437704
I’ve always found the fan interpretations of Hornet’s “eyes” to be kind of funny. She is wearing a mask, both games go out of their way to show and tell you that the bugs often wear masks. People seem to just ignore this…

>HLTB shows 30 hours for a completionist run
>36 hours in
>still have a ton of areas to explore and things to do
Huh?

>>538443495
What about boomerang? The ant seller seems to die if you take too long to find it even on act 2.

>>538444189
Thats bullshit. Even the 100% speedrun achievement is marked at 30 hours.

I need help
I'm trying to get to a flea in the citadel. I had to break down a wall to get to it. Now there are a bunch of saws where you need tgo pogo bounce to get to it.

I just cannot believe this is a skill check. Is there another entrance or something?

>>538444498
Its a pogo check. Just equip one of the easy pogo crests.

>>538444498
iirc you can enable a fan below you to glide to the top

>>538444498
Go outside and find another breakable wall under it. You CAN do it with double jump, but it's super fucking precise.

>>538444642
>>538444672
Thank you so much I was losing my mind over this

Hello yes I'd like to know how the FUCK do I reach this goddamned spot in the map.

>>538443412
No but you ARE effectively stuck until you get out of the Underworks.

I know most people aren't on their second playthroughs yet but has anyone tried to see if the broken floor in the Choral Chambers that leads back to the Grand Gate can be opened from the Grand Gate side? The scale platform puzzle definitely looks doable from the start.

>>538445231
act 3, trust.

If you were to find and free Prince from sinners, then find him before the baths in the capital, would he show up for the clockwork dancers fight? Or is he fated to always arrive too late?

>>538445441
doomed yaoi as far as i'm aware

Six mask health is a fucking placebo.

What does the blue dice accessory do extra anyway? I sometimes swear I see a blue effect when getting hit while having the dice equipped in my yellow slots.
Does it also improve the chance for wanderer to deal critical hits perhaps?

How is this one hidden npc in Shellwood able to reprogram a god? Does "Greyroot" even exist, or is it mimicry?

>>538445360
I'm very much way deep into act3 anon.

>>538445614
5% chance to not take damage when hit, dunno if it has any other effects

well i just beat the game after only doing mandatory objectives

is there any point in continuing that save file considering all of the things i intentionally avoided?

Tips for Phantom? Seems pretty easy, but I just can read his attacks at all.

This game has way too many asshole moments, like ||the broken bench|||| at the top of bilewater||

>Hero's call
>infested totally not Don Quixote"
This is annoying to even get close to hit him.

>>538445941
nice spoiler discordkun
yeah, the game is borderline kaizo sometimes

>>538445996
Deceptively hard boss. I'm not kidding when I say he was in my top bosses I died most to.

>>538445941
>||||

This game has way too many asshole moments, like the broken bench at the top of bilewater

>>538445617
Its actually sort of explained in act 3. Something about snails knowing ancient shit.

Do you guys actually use tools?
They've been farely underwheliming in my use

>charge attacks give no focus
Are they actually out of their god damned minds?

Moorwing made me his bitch, and I won't lose sleep over $20 for an indie game. Time to start Deltarune.

>people cry about bilewater
It's not even that hard. Just swim past everything.

>>538446257
They are garbage until you find the poison charm and get a few damage upgrades. Then they become vastly superior to spells.

cute bird

>>538445941
why do you keep doing this? how is ||this|| gonna do a spoiler tag? just use ctrl+s

>>538445921
Reaper helped for attacking from above. When she throws the pin horizontal, attack downward where she's going to be.

>>538446414
The area makes me want to puke, in a way the Royal Waterways never did.

I got 5 fleas. And went to Greymoor with the caravan. Was there supposed to be a boss encounter there? I turned back to the path back to the beltway when I heard the menacing music.

>>538445996
his moveset is really limited and his hp pool is low. once you start hopping his projectiles reliably you'll get there pretty fast.

>>538447148
you skipped him, for now

>Found the last spool under the elevator on white ward
For fuck sake, I didn't think to call the elevator up with the top buttons.

>>538446414
it's straight up just a fun area with a lot of open spaces that would have zero challenge without the maggot debuff.

>>538447148
Once Caravan is there they won't allow the boss to spawn, so you can skip him for now. He is relatively annoying for how early you fight him, so it's nice help.

>>538382252 (OP)
Give me a reason to play both games.
I fucking hate metroidvanias, but i've been listening to the OST of both games on youtube very casually and it looks like a beautifully crafted universe.

>>538447525
>even bigger bump after it released
were they waiting to see if it was actually true?

Where did you first enter the citadel from?

>>538447840
last judge

>>538447760
You hated Symphony of the Night?

finally got the true ending but I'm missing these + like 5 mementos

>>538444189
hltb?

>>538447840
Exhaust Organ.

>>538447760
>I hate metroidvanias
>should I play a metroidvania?
Why would you do this to yourself?

>>538448320
The mementos are for side objectives and don't count toward completion.

>>538447760
You should stick to posting basedjacks on /v/ with the other losers.

>>538448656
yeah but they come from boss fights and I like boss fights

Missing only one mask now. No fucking idea where it is. Already did all quests that give shards I believe.

>>538441897
The voice and haughty personality.

>>538447760
If you need persuasion instead of trying it yourself for your own sake, don't bother.

how many endings can you get in one playthrough?

>>538448958
5

How hard is the endgame?
Do we reach pantheon of hallownest levels?

>>538442519
What's the point of even having your own home? The bed just lets you rest, but you already have a bench in town

>>538448052
>>538448595
>>538448709
>>538448917
Listen you niggers, I dislike indie metroidvanias because they're always LOLRANDUMBXD bullshit with horrible level design and worse.
I am kindly asking if Hollow Knight and Silksong are actually the outliers.
You stupid fucking niggers.

>>538449124
you can put cool stuff in it

>>538449132
You are not beating the mentally underage /v/irgin allegations.

>>538449280
SHAW!

Is there a way to refight karmelitta, she's my fave boss

>>538449654
Stopped using poisoned cogflys just for this fight I loved it so much.

>>538449654
Wait for godhome 2 dlc

>>538449280
whose pov is this?

>>538438498
I can't find the fleas. But I've given up fighting him and will search. He's too finicky with the jumping.

>Fighting Widow
>"Oh. That was easier than I expected-"
>SIKE. Here's the actual part 2 of her fight.
Oh, devs, you pranksters.

Knight bug

>>538446257
I would use them much more if I didn't have to grind shards for them, especially since the game has quests that dump a shit ton of your shards
They really should recover at the bench free

>breaks a fat bug's neck in the Slab
BASED AND KINO

>>538444189
it says 45 hours and updated 1 hour ago

>>538449898
mine

what do i do here?

>press dive to enter the abyss
>alt tab for 40 seconds
>alt tab back when the animation is finished to fight the boss
jfc this is retarded, I understand these animations make the game look more polished but holy shit
I made this post in between tries while I was waiting for the animation to finish

who are the other npcs I can take this too? architect is already dead...

>>538451225
you go right, hidden wall

>>538451225
SHAW and EDEEDA

>>538451932
Mountain secret room makes it a laser

Where do I take the broken tool?

>>538452125
where is that?

>>538452290
see >>538451932

>>538452323
Dunno, you need an act 3 ability for it from what I hear and I'm not there yet.

what the hell?
I just found Moorwing after having skipped him
he shows up in front of the bellstation on act 2

>Pass by wilds station
>Walk out
>Hear a very weird sounds as I leave, avian like
>Go back
>A stabbed cloth with a warning from the bird bugs demanding I show up to them
What the hell triggered this? Can it happen anywhere?

>need to actually explore blight town and high halls now
Oh boy surely this will be a pleasant experience.

>>538452845
High Halls is pretty comfy until THAT room.

>>538445241
I just got out of it, once you get back through the top of the scales room you can leave through the front door. To get back on the scales you need to jump up and hit one of the right side column's scales on the bottom to raise one side and lower the other to give yourself a ledge up.

does this guy do anything other than that 1 courier quest?

>>538451239
Yeah it takes forever. It's annoying because the true final boss is actually tough so you're going to be seeing that shit a lot.

Do you need to do the courrier quests?
I did one and it just appeared again
Is this just supposed to be a money farm?

>>538453481
Some unique ones will show up, but quests with a greenish bag are repeatable and just for money, and maybe some dialogue from whoever you gave the supplies to.

>>538453481
I had trouble getting the Act 3 prerequisite quest to show up until I did the non-supplies/non-rasher courier quests.

actual end of the game spoilers
what the fuck was that to be continued message? DLC or another game?

I can't see Moorwing, he's always in the fucking edge of my screen
stop running away

>>538454317
In my game his favourite spot is just low enough so I can't jump and just high enough so I can't hit.

I beat the game

>>538454976
>everyone is depressed
at what cost?

I just defeated the true final boss. mfw.

>>538454273
probably DLC or an expansion

>>538454867
moorwing would be a good fight if he had a fucking ceiling

Widow might be the first boss I've fought that feels like dash is required. She moves so fast and so much.

>>538454317
>>538454867
>>538456180
Was Moorwing really that bad? Do the games differ? Sometimes he'd move back out of reach, but other than that he seemed very easy to hit. I felt he was a good match if one was able to beat Lace's first fight.
I will admit his second wind blade took me a few tries to predict well. If I try to hit him with it around, it's like it's perfectly place to come back, loop, and hit me.

>>538456256
after her dive attack she will always dash in the direction that you dodged, so use that to set up a pogo (which will likely deflect off of her claws but whatever). jump and heal in the air when she dives down and runs under you, probably the best time for it in phase 1. when she summons bells is a good chance to get a few hits in, run if she summons them next to herself. in phase 2 the diagonal bells are easier than the vertical ones, put yourself in the line of one of them and deflect it. its much safer than trying to dodge them. she will use her attacks faster now but pogoing during her dive and dash and when she summons bells are still the best times to hit her. best time to heal is during bells, get above the diagonal lines and avoid where they will bounce.

If you manage to avoid being captured by the mosquito wardens, how are you supposed to explore the deeper parts of the slab?

>>538457221
You get the key of the apostate to access it from bilewater.

>>538456809
maybe it's because I'm fighting him on the second location, all of his moves are very easy to dodge and see, but I'm having a fucking mental breakdown trying to hit him and not getting ran over when he goes so high that is charge traps you

>have already upgraded my silk container thing like 4 times
>Only upgraded health twice
Why are health upgrades so rare

>Flail my arms around
>Beat anon cause I'm dealing 2 damage instead of just 1

Can you get Snare Setter back after Act 3? It's the only thing left

There are places where you can't barely make the jump (wormhole locked door)
I am in act2, are there still upgrades?

>>538457089
I beat her a few hours ago. Was just noting that I can't "walk and fight" for her fight. Thanks though.
>jump and heal in the air
You can heal in the air?!?! I mean, I thought about it, but never really entertained the thought enough to test it. I'll keep this in mind for when thing get scarier.
>so use that to set up a pogo
>put yourself in the line of one of them and deflect it
I'm pretty retarded when I play. I only do simple stuff like dodge, heal, and normal nail strikes. I don't even use RB. I've done this for every boss so far. (Here's my Widow fight: https://files.catbox.moe/9o4lv5.mkv)
I like your deflect idea though. I wanna be able to do that. I think it'll help a lot for future battles. I need something to practice it on though.
>>538457519
>maybe it's because I'm fighting him on the second location
Yeah, maybe that's it. I've only fought him in Greymoor. I'm still in Act 1. I guess this means the next time I see him he'll be a pain...

Hornet has so many boyfriends and girlfriends...

>>538458778
>find the green prince
>Hornet says "tall bug"
Why is she a whore

Fought with double drill bugs boss, I kill one, and while screen shake, the second one kill me, so when I return there were no one. And I have 1 bug missing message in the journal. How fucked am I? 7 years my ass

>>538458993
The other one fucks off and screams in the background enraged that you killed their partner, but they fuck off. So you didn't miss anything.

>>538458778
she's a highly desirable bug, after all

>Judge gets beaten
>Shakes violently and starts chanting something
>Their flame orb is clearly letting way too much fire leak out
>Some people don't move out of the way, and just eat the fucking explosion
How much more of a big tell does it have to be for people to pick up on the "it's going to explode!"

>>538433920
I have no idea how to fight that mf. My style is very aggressive, then hide and heal. And this stopped working half way through the game.

>>538457089
NTA. I didn't know you could heal in the air.. would've made Widow fight easier. I spammed tools for phase 2.

>>538459286
i read the tells, she just died in an unfortunate spot

does this room have any purpose at all? future quest mayhaps?

I just realized that you can climb up walls without bouncing off of them and coming back. Is there any use case for this or is it just a matter of preference?

>>538459873
I'm not really sure where this is, but 99% of the time you see rooms like these, they are for future shortcuts you unlock by coming from the other side.
If this is the elevator room close to the entrance to the citadel, then that's the case.

>>538459956
it's a lot less precise so not good for parkour, but a lot more stable when attacking up, might make hitting levers and walls easier

>>538457941
can you tell me where these 2 are?

>>538460156
I kinda doubt it, doesn't even show up on the map, maybe I'm overthinking it

>>538457814
they want you to play this game like those challenge runners

>>538459286
or you can just not have him explode

>>538458910
She's hundreds of years old and she has a passion for mating, it makes sense she'd have a ton of partners.

>>538460843
You can kill hit them and stop the explosion?

>Crust king
That was the easiest one for sure. The gauntlets themselves were the real challenge.

How the fuck do I get down there? Theres no lever. I beat the Flame Boss and theres no shortcut in his room.

Why is there just a lone ledge in here, on the opposite side of the wall above coral tower?

>>538461464
I remember just being able to at some point, or there being a lever or thing you could do to allow it.

>killing bosses first try with poison cogflies
And people act like this game is hard

>*Blocks your path*
What do?

>>538458778
>>538458910
She is a canon sex lover, as befits a girlboss.

>>538385246
>>538393315
literally the only reason this is a thing is to "own the incels" or something
and if you're going to say "it's insane that people are bothered by this" please consider that this fact makes the person responsible for its inclusion just as insane

Can you find regular craws when you start act 3? I still need to finish killing a few medium and big ones.

>>538462485
Isn't it more about the plight of being a higher being? She's way longer lived than everyone, so every time she forms a connection to someone, they're soon gone anyway.

>Get out of craw lake after beating the boss there
>Head left
>Meet Seth alive sitting there
>The encounter left him amnesiac, acts joyful and full of wonder about the world and wants to explore

>>538462687
Frieren does this without making the female protagonist a used up slut

Is Act 3 big? I got to the boss of act 2 (I believe), just going through the rest of the map first.

>>538459368
>>538458494
You can heal while clinging to walls as well once you have wall cling. And remember that you can down dash as well to quickly get out of the air.

>>538463154
To be fair, she isn't highly autistic like Frieren, so she probably sought companionship.

How do I do Widow’s surprise phase? The diagonal bells keep getting me and then she combos me.

>wow, this is a cool area
>first room I enter
man, fuck you

>>538460698
play your needoline near the glowflies, follow them to the exit. you need to pass through like 5 or 6 rooms through the correct exit door to get through the area. the map will repeat so don't panic, just find the glowflies and play music for them to show you which door to exit from. the ghosts can be killed fairly wasily with traps, but they do damage and eat silk when you attack.

>flea juggle
this is hell. i only got up to 18. also whats a good farming spot for act 3? im getting worrying low on shards

>>538463164
I'd say it's like 20% of the main story.