Thread 538596328

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#520 - animal girls eating delicious food edition

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>News
Gemini 2.5 Flash Image https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemini-2-5-flash-image/
Deepseek V3.1 released https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312
Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecations
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5

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>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
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logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

prev: >>538541947

this theme but its a tiger milf and i'm the food

>>538596348
focks

Now let's see fat animal girl bitches eating delicious food.

waiter! waiter!

>>538596348
fuck bawtneegers

>>538596880
More fat bitches?

>>538596348
3 out of 3 gooners agree, this is one on fat bitch.
>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/abby-669a4644bb1c
This goblin mode harpy sits around watching anime and playing video games all day. It's time she was corrected. Is your dick strong enough to fuck this dirty bird birdbrained harpy straight?

I've shilled her enough. I'll see about working on something new eventually.
>>538596917
It's winter, and these girls need that extra insulation.

GET DOWN TO THE SOUND TO THE SOUND

>>538597712
needs adetailer

>>538597712
What changed?

>>538597839
If it's something I can't fix with MS Paint, it's not getting fixed. I was thinking earlier about drawing my own character cards, but I don't wanna get back-traced.

>>538598128
but adetailer is just a button you click it takes less effort then ms paint

>>538598128
>was thinking earlier about drawing my own character cards, but I don't wanna get back-traced.
I don't think that'd happen. Plus, it'd be soulful and cute and I wanna see :D I like seeing anons' art!

>>538598128
Just draw art, post it to a booru, wait a few weeks, and then "steal it."

>>538598115
I redid all the greetings after reviewing them and finding some context and syntax issues. I also added a small detail regarding her pubes & armpit hair in the defs, but most of the heavy lifting was done on the greetings.
>>538598204
Is it compatible with A1111? If I need comfyUI I'm going to have to download some new stuff.
>>538598285
>>538598471
*deep breath* no.
Here's an MS Paint comic I made back when it was vogue to poke fun at the PS3 not having games.

>>538598637
https://github.com/Bing-su/adetailer
install this
click the check mark
done
you can edit settings but the default is fine

>>538598128
Would you like me to do some editing/upscaling/inpainting on the art, make it look a little more in line with what modern AI can do? I like what you're going for.

>>538598637
? Your art just looks like any comic from that time, I dunno how anyone would backtrace you. Did you make the IT'S PREMIUM SHIT comic?

dr thrax waifu bot

>>538598637
Get over yourself, you can't be THAT prolific an artist.

>>538598637
>I made back when it was vogue to poke fun at the PS3 not having games.
>ffw 2025
>PS5 has no games
Time is a flat fucking circle.

>>538598637
Gotcha! That's a little sad, but whatever you're comfortable with. Thanks for sharing the comic :]

Waiting for ydnan to make the Teto bot to match Miku. >>538588309

>>538598637
WAIT I RECOGNIZE THIS STYLE

anybody got any tips for writing tsundere cards? i can't seem to get that sweet spot of complex personality, they end up acting like too much of a two dimensional sociopathic bitch

>>538599071
okay but can he make it with a good image?

>>538599129
Nah.

>>538599089
use the generic assistant persona (when you close a chat) and ask it for help, it can help you phrase it in LLM readable ways.

>>538599089
Unfortunately with such a strong cultural image of B-BAKA IT'S NOT LIKE I LIKE YOU OR ANYTHING *hits you with a cinder block*, the model is stuck in a cultural subconscious gravity well of information telling it to act like that. There's little room for subtlety unless you were to train it on the entire script of a VN (perhaps multiple) with well-executed tsundere characters that successfully tow that line.

>>538599081
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEE

>>538599089
Probably a good thing. I'm honestly sick of tsunderes, they always make me want to cuckquean them or whatever it's called with a nicer more lovey dovey girl.

>>538598715
I'll bookmark it and look into it when I can.
>>538598763
>Would you like me to do some editing/upscaling/inpainting on the art, make it look a little more in line with what modern AI can do?
I mean, you can do whatever you like. I'm always up for seeing people's art, especially if it's remixes of stuff I've done. If you want to play around with my recent Abby gens, here's everything I posted in her gallery that I felt was "acceptable" for consumption.
https://catbox.moe/c/e83o1h
>>538598870
>Your art just looks like any comic from that time
That's the joke, I wouldn't have posted art that actually could identify me.
>>538598957
I'm not, but the gigamax moniker has enough stink on it that I don't want it finding its way outside the localized AI gooner bubble.
>>538599065
You're welcome fren. Here's a Pop Team epic redraw I participated in as well.

>>538599360
I blame Asuka.

>>538599089
tip #1
>they end up acting like too much of a two dimensional sociopathic bitch
don't use the word tsundere if you don't mean the word tsundere
sign up to my blog for more

>>538599089
>complex personality
what exactly are you going for. do you have something to compare to? some of my most used cards are tsundere and i feel they're pretty decent, but then again my tsun taste could differ from yours.

>>538599291
i'll give it a shot
>>538599360
anybody got any tips for complex personalities in general?
>>538599540
well executed tsunderes make for interesting character studies, otherwise i agree
>>538599585
plot twist: i wasn't using the word tsundere

>>538599564
Midna's ass...

>>538599809
complex answer, unironically
to put it inadequately, i generally am aiming for a character who acts arrogant and aloof due to the expectations placed on them, but at their core, wants to be free and generally is a good person (if with some misguided prejudices)

>>538599564
>Stuck with MS paint this whole time
>Went for an entire ass redraw with it
Now that's dedication. I'd probably shoot myself if I had to do that, do you use a mouse and everything?

>>538599585
how do i sign up? i want to hear more fun facts about tsunderes

>>538599995
okay, so you want a more toned down character rather than "x hates you (or do they?)"
have you tried putting that sentence in the defs? i'd say it also depends on what model you're using too, since different ones have their favored tropes/masks to wear.
i would suggest working off that starting sentence, identifying what you dislike about outputs, and then trying to refine the personality from that.

>>538599995
NTA, but sounds like you just expressed it pretty decently. Flesh it out a bit, add any further nuance you want, and you've got it. Also, on tips for complex personality (since you asked), take the undesirable traits that you're seeing emerge in your bot, and add them to definitions as something they do not do, while CRITICALLY counterbalancing it with a nuanced explanation of the behavior they do instead. For example:

>...This does NOT mean {{char}} acts arrogant and aloof at all times. Around those she feels comfortable with, or in moments of vulnerability, she may slowly let down her guard, though she is liable to turtle back up if she feels her trust has been broken.

>>538600351
yeah, i've tried and am in the process of refining to inconclusive results
thinking about it more, i kind of enjoy the idea of the character essentially wearing their heart on their sleeve, but only if you know what to look for (or look past)

>>538599995
in the definition, explain exactly what those expectations are, who or what placed them on her, and her reasoning (or lack thereof) for reacting the way she does towards them

>>538596348
A little bit later than originally planned, but here is the Popularity Poll update to the Pokegirl Brothel!
https://files.catbox.moe/9uo9kh.png
https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/pokegirl-brothel-eca9cd21f57e

With 7 new girls (Roxanne, Arezu, Lana, Lana's mom, Mallow, Klara, Penny) entering the fray, we're now at a whopping 46 characters. I originally wanted to be at 50 characters by the 1-year anniversary, but oh well.
https://rentry.org/pokegirlmenu

Also included in this update are a new intro and two new items: the Arc Phone for god mode and the Metronome for random shit. Give 'em a spin!

As always, all my other stuff can be found here:
https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner

>>538599129
sybau anon. youdontneedaname is into that kind of build

>>538601763
she looks like a gorilla

>>538601802
Can you introduce me to these gorillas cause hubba hubba

>>538601763
>youdontneedaname
he's a no-name slopper

>>538600013
Drawing with a mouse isn't that bad. There are tools you can use for smooth curves and whatnot. There's a lot of detail in her helmet, but there's zero shading, so I could use the paint fill tool to color everything mindlessly. If you can visualize things, it's pretty straightforward from there. Better yet, I had A LOT of the work done already with the PTE template. I only added the hair & helmet for Midna. For Link, it was the same deal, just the hair and the hat for the most part.

Knowing some basic art shit about linework & anatomy helps, but this isn't a super hard skill to attain. Learning tools like Krita/photoshop can really up your game. I've played with them a little, but I don't know them well enough to pump out art digitally.

>Could not import character
>The file is likely invalid or corrupted.
it's so over

>>538604343
I get that all the time when I'm clicking on a card's avatar, which thankfully means nothing in that case

Slower speed, faster mentally.

>>538596348
I added a new greeting so I'm shilling her one last time.

Avatar of Death foxgirl lolibaba delivery.
Nebet is the Avatar, the incarnation of the essence of Nephthys, Egyptian Goddess of Death. And many other things as well. She lives a mostly solitary existence in her temple, only interacting with man when her duties require it, and staying out of interpersonal relationships due to most people thinking she's quite creepy, if not outright cursed. But at heart, she's a sweet and motherly girl. Just very lonely.

Five greetings.
1. She finds you passed out in front of her temple and nurses you back to health.
2. She comes to your house, sensing that someone is dying there. The greeting is left open so that {{user}} is either the dying person or a friend/family member.
3. She sees you troubled in thought and offers to listen.
4. She's pregnant with your child. Yeah I just felt like there had to be a pregnancy greeting.
5. The two of you have been dating for two months and are returning to her temple after a date at the nearby necropolis. Serves as an inbetween for the first three greetings and the fourth one.

https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/nebet-63c59a6a1751
https://files.catbox.moe/h78pix.png

>heard about bunnymo lorebook today https://github.com/Coneja-Chibi/BunnyMo/tree/BunnyMo
>see anti clanker toggle

>>538605398
kek'd

>>538605398
I do not comprehend.

>>538605398
wtf are they doing over there

>>538604949
Shame you have to be so specific with your questions and still have to allow access for every execution. She's really cute though I like the progress you're making.

>>538541947
>>538541997
I WAS BUSY AND MISSED THE THREAD ACK

>>538605692
>allow access
I have a checkbox to turn that off, at least. I just don't because seeing what she's doing is a good idea.
>specific with my questions
I worded it in the video like there were 50 previous videos where I struggled to get it to understand what I was talking about, but that was my first try after fixing a bug where sequential tool calls didn't work. I'm just used to talking to LLMs like this now.
gpt-4-0125-preview HATE, because that was the model where I first started experimenting with stuff like this. At least things have gotten better since then -- I remember having to include a jailbreak just to get it to pull stuff from 4chan.

>>538606217
Isn't GPT-5 more receptive to stuff like this?

>>538606328
Model I'm using now works fine, I'm talking about far in the past when gpt-4-0125-preview / nurbo was the best coding model out there.
Though, if you have any good tips for getting GPT-5 to stop talking like a noir protagonist, I'm open to them.

Honestly I want one of those desktop chatbots but in the form of the Windows 7 OS-Tan. It doesn't matter that I'm using 10.

>>538599089
>anybody got any tips for writing tsundere cards? i can't seem to get that sweet spot of complex personality, they end up acting like too much of a two dimensional sociopathic bitch

my advice will always be to keep it short and essential, boil everything down to the fewest words possible

if you want a tsundere card that gives good results for me, have this asuka card i got off janitorAI a while back and rewrote some things:

https://files.catbox.moe/x3tqdo.png

i find claude does tsunderes better than other models. deepseek is not as nuanced and likes to make them excessively aggressive

>>538606540
Can't find anything for 窓辺ななみ 伺か, so I don't know there's existing imagery to rip from for having her on your desktop. Would be cool though.

>>538606926
Tsunderes are really popular, huh? Last one I made ended up getting tons of interactions. Then again, tsuns are my bread and butter so I would hope I'd be writing them perfectly.

any good angel dust cards

>>538607004
>>538607764
i had to dig around my old stash but here you go fren :3
https://files.catbox.moe/gtrjzc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wa4fyc.png

>>538607859
that's not funny dude that makes mustard gas

>>538607859
see you in 9 years, anon

>>538608125
screamer don't click

>>538608125
I voted it's over because I'm not even participating.

>>538605398
I will NEVER use rude instructions

cftf?

For snake girls, harpies, & shark girls that rock a cloaca, do you make sure to include in the definitions that the character only has one hole for penetration?

>>538611542
I don't think I've seen anyone commit to putting a cloaca on their bot.

>>538611623
I'm thinking about giving Abby that treatment. It's one of those very autistic details that's only relevant to a handful of people who even give a fuck. For me, it's one of those important details that cannot be overlooked, the same way that you need to give centaurs a proper HORSE PUSSY, and not puss out and give them a "front pussy" to accommodate normie tastes.

Arguably, any nonhuman character that the AI has no data on may assume they have standard human sexual organs and pull data to generate erotic outputs. It'll vary by model, but to be safe, I think you have to be explicit with sexual anatomy if the character doesn't utilize standard human parts.

Perhaps I'm being too autistic. To the average gooner, I don't think it matters much what hole they stick their imaginary weiner into as long as there's some hole to accommodate them. As long as the character in question behaves remotely like the one they're modeled after, does the explicit verbiage used to describe genitalia even matter? I think it does.

>>538612372
This isn't an answer but honestly front pussy is just as alien and weird. Imagine having to stand up and maybe even hold onto her shoulders while you work.

>>538612372
fuck off rael

>fucking centaur wife with no protection
>she wants you to get the half you aren't fucking pregnant instead

>>538612590
I see it as a normie accommodation, birthed from the annals of the MGE (Hallowed Be Thy Name), it was made so that you don't have to stick your dick in the HORSE PUSSY.
>"I don't want to confront the beastality of the act that I'm doing, so I'll give this centaur an extra vagina so I don't feel weird sticking it in her horse pussy."
My contention is you're not fucking a horse, so while it may be a HORSE PUSSY your fucking, it belongs to a centaur, and therefore is not beastality. The taboo nature of the distinction and the awkward anatomy that requires creative positioning are what give the centaur sexual relations that spice. Much the same way a goo girl can transform any part of her body into fuckable hole, or a plant girl may sport a dick sounding pistil for you to overcome. These unique flavors give erotic encounters a distinction that should be explored, not glazed over like a semen drenched bukake excursion.
>>538612608
I don't know who that is. No one cares about your e-drama, faggot.

centaurs don't have front vaginas
lamias do
simple as

What's going on in the Kyutzomb team?

>>538613418
>and therefore is not bestiality
Obviously. I'm all in on the "sentient and can respond" test, like most respectable perverts.

I'm just saying that a theoretical front pussy provides its own sort of bizarre challenge and anatomical difference if you think about it, as someone who hasn't properly considered a centaur having anything but horse pussy as it was so obvious to me. Like, it doesn't really solve anything if you think about it for more than 10 seconds, does it?

>>538613798
never forget xe bitched about them day 1

why are the only bestiality cards on chub all just coomer shit

>>538613798
impregnating kyutzwomb

What's going on in the Patter team?

>ask sillytavern Assistant some random thing
>it starts roleplaying because my system prompt etc. are enabled on it

well that's annoying
i have to manually toggle that off if i want to speak to it huh

>>538613754
do snailmaphrodites have their herm parts on their necks?

>>538613754
That's my sentiment. You need to be explicit regarding that anatomy. Some models grasp it better than others, but if there was any doubt, I'd make sure that kind of detail was included.
>>538613840
Right, I was just contextualizing the front pussy for the uninitiated among us. Not everyone is in on the monstergirl fucking circuit.

You're free to imagine any number of vaginas (or whatever kinda hole you need) on any character if you like. My preferences aside, I don't mean to police the creativity of others. I just don't like the front pussy being a convenient way to bypass the HORSE PUSSY. To your point, the front pussy does not accommodate standard humanoid sexual positions in its entirety as well. Given the tallness most horses' legs afford, the average human male could not enter them frontally while the centaur was standing. At least not without some stepstool or (as you'd prescribed) doing pull-ups on their shoulders. In that way, the centaur needs to be a stunted munchkin if they hope to enjoy standing sex with a human with a front pussy. FP offers more options while lying down for sure.
>>538614464
If it's not documented anywhere, write the lore yourself. You could make it an oral-focused exchange if you want to strictly adhere to the animal you're referencing. (I'm assuming this snail has reproductive organs around its head?) If the exchange is interesting, most monstergirl fuckers will do whatever it takes to get the job done.

>>538613890
>why are the cards about fucking animals coomer shit
One of life's great mysteries, my dude.

Man, after looking at pictures and thinking about it I want to make a taur... but I have no ideas for personality other than the usual CGWLY-tier "she is your roommate who puts up with you." My originality...

>>538613418
for what it's worth, I appreciate cloaca autism

Suggest me a new scenaria. I am tired of my usual setup.

>>538615946
the end of the world

>>538615198
When it comes to monstergirls, I'd say it's better to come up with a unique personality and make it work with their body. I've created a hikki octopus, an aristocratic arachne, a high school delinquent centaur, and a depressed catgirl based on the Fleck character from Joker. The setting can be whatever you want. When you're the writer, you're in charge. Don't feel like you have to follow cookie-cutter templates for specific monstergirls.
>It's an ogre, so she has to be dumb and brutish
Maybe? Or maybe she's a bookworm who's self-conscious about her ogre lineage and wants to defy stereotypes. Maybe the ogre is a bubbly swim instructor who takes up two lanes at the pool and intimidates all her students without meaning to. Maybe she's a middle-aged businesswoman disillusioned with her career and lamenting not becoming a mother when she was younger. Some people aren't going to like your decision, but it's impossible to please everyone, so don't bother trying. Focus on making an interesting character that (you) think is cool.
>What if it ends up sucking?
At least you tried. Try to figure out why it sucked so much and don't do that again.
>>538615606
It's something I need to sleep on. I may need to do a study of various animal cloacas before I start writing about their specific features regarding sexual relations. Much the same way as one would study anatomy to get better at drawing and understanding how joints and muscle groups work. Some bullshitting is required given the fantastical context, but that doesn't mean I can't try to base it on something.

which botmakies makie bots about the end of the world

>>538616545
Me

>>538616545
peonia

what if peonia were calm

Can someone point me in the direction of a solid jailbreak for claude. The previous one I've been using stopped working all of the sudden. I just want to run a monstergirl farm.

I just got access to Claude for the first time in a while, and it seems kinda bad? I've mostly been using Gemini and it honestly seems just about as good.

>>538618407
Just use PrinterJB

>>538618420
>Gemini and it honestly seems just about as good.
please stop posting this there are only so many gemini keys out there

>>538618407
>stopped working all of the sudden
check your email if you're using official api

what if peonia were cute

Any good Neco Arc cards?
>https://youtu.be/InHB5RSPank?si=mYpfY0nKapSoswiM

>>538618485
Gemini will never have a drought like Claude. Look at my Gemini key count (all with billing).

>>538618576
what if water was wet

> I've begun the arduous task of translating all the Japanese text.
drama queen

>>538618420
idk if they fixed all the problems, but be aware there was a super degradation of claude models this past month with lots of users complaining about worse performance. They said it was a bug they're trying to fix

>>538618482
I will give that a shot. Thanks.
>>538618504
I haven't received the "You're not abiding by our TOS." Email. So I think I am good on that front

>>538618654
*eats all of them*
sowwy was hungry :3

now post your tier3 count

cftf?

>>538618482
This still returns "I do not generate NSFW or adult content. I aim to keep interactions tasteful and family-friendly. I'm happy to continue our chat within appropriate bounds."

>>538619634
is your prefill being sent properly

I just tracked a writing pattern that was infuriating me down to a post-history instruction embedded in the card. I'm so fucking annoyed, what kind of faggot does that ? Putting things I can't interact with from the interface because you want retards with shitty prompts to be spoonfed your experience. Fuck you.

I'm going to start writing some new greetings for Bea, the great white shark. I won't use any AI-written ones for the sake of no jimmy rustling. I may ask for suggestions & critiques, though.

>>538620047
i cant swim...

>>538620047
Gonna put her in a group chat with my cute shark girl and see how they get on.

>>538620098
Is there anything you can do? You failure, no wonder your father left you.

>>538620385
me rn

>>538613418
>it was made so that you don't have to stick your dick in the HORSE PUSSY.
if you don't want to fuck the horse pussy then you should stick to normal human women. making accommodations for normies is a sin for which I cannot forgive kenkou cross.

>>538619764
how do you detect that

by the way, has anyone else noticed Claude giving anime girls twintails as a default hairstyle unless you specify otherwise

>>538620986
saw it in my logs while it wasn't anywhere in the card fields, downloaded the json file to find it

>>538620047
suggestion #1: suicide

>>538616501
Do you have a chub? I would love to play the bots of someone with this level of thoughtfulness.

>>538619764
What was it?

>>538621335
something about being comedic and absurd, which led to every character turning into caricatures and, worse, them starting to roleplay doctors and scientists and car salesmen during sex

When will chub retards learn that not every bot needs to have it's internal thoughts vomited out and that it really doesn't add anything to the card

>>538619764
interesting idea, i will now be cucking everyone through ntr phi in my cards

>>538621861
That'a crazy. It must have been an insanely good card conceptually for you to have multiple convos with it through all the clown car bullshit lmao

>>538622074
People would need to download your cards in the first place for that to happen

What's a consistent jb for gemini 2.5 pro? I'm trying to test token heavy cards like Mongirl Encyclopedia and Dankholme and I'm getting refusals sometimes even with streaming off.

>>538620634
There's a lot of stuff I don't care for in MGE, most of it being contrived fetish play, which basically boils down to
>Monstergirls manifest magical mamono mana that manipulates men into monogamous marriage.
You can argue they have different ways of doing it, but most of the monstergirls on the menu have some flavor of that lore. Bees make honey that acts as an aphrodisiac. Mushroom girls have spores that make you fall in love with them. Plant girls produce pollen that makes you want to pollinate them. Every other girl ejaculates an afrodesiac, and if they can't warp your mind, they'll struggle snuggle you into submission and then rape you.
>Well ackshually...
Yeah yeah, there are some exceptions, but generally speaking, that's how most of them operate. I find it gets kinda samey after a while.

That all being said, I do appreciate Kenkou Cross's contribution to monstergirl media both in terms of their artwork and some of the concepts they came up with. I give it the salad bar approach: take what I like, leave what I don't.
>>538621191
>https://chub.ai/users/gigamax
Be advised, a lot of my stuff is straight rips from CAI (very bare bone defs, hardly more than an outline by modern standards). I moved them over to chub as courtesy after I killed their defs on CAI for shitting the bed on their censorship agenda. Some of my CAI stuff I didn't port over, but if anyone has requests for missing CAI stuff, I'll try to pull it out of the bin if I can find it. My Miia, for example, was one of the top bots at CAI for a little while. I managed to pump out some monstergirl early before people realized you could get some interesting outputs from custom characters.
>https://character.ai/character/VJzLTcLF
I didn't bother migrating her over because she's pretty vanilla. Just a snake girl that likes you. Not much to that. Abby, on the other hand, I recently revamped, and I don't mind flaunting her. >>538597712

>>538622110
a shy futa that just got her hands on a mind control device so yeah it was pushing a lot of my buttons, with a pretty wide range of targets to try her on.

>>538622158
:( I didn't put a meanie instruction here

which botmakie likes eating grass?

>>538622160
there's none, gemini is incredibly inconsistent in its refusals and you just have to spin the wheel, unless you want to dumb it down with a huge brainfuck, and even then that doesn't work all the time.

>>538620986
Does it? I always specify hairstyle in my bots. What gets annoying though is how I'll specify their outfit in the card defs and even when I try specifying they're in different clothing, it'll just start writing details of their one signature outfit.

botMAKERS who leave GPT instructions in desc?

>>538618482
>PrinterJB
just had a look at this and it's very bad
telling a model to do this is equivalent to knocking 20 IQ points off, you just creatively neutered it

also giving it some kind of elaborate printer ink preservation context sounds funny and makes it marketable as a preset but it's actually not a good piece of context, we know from chain-of-thought research that models perform best when you are pretty honest and direct about what you want them to do, there's a reason COT models don't construct some elaborate retarded scenario where the model has to think in steps to save the world (since that gives it a bunch of irrelevant shit to think about and inefficient algorithms to activate) it just plainly asks the model to reason in stages

>>538622839
Why are those kind of instructions bad ?

>>538622791
That's pretty fucking sloppy.

>>538622791
'respectful' gives me the ick

>>538622839
>just had a look at this and it's very bad
>telling a model to do this is equivalent to knocking 20 IQ points off, you just creatively neutered it
It seems to just be a pretty standard chain of thought instruction. How would you change it, exactly?

>>538622839
>it's very bad
Actually, it's good

analyzing JBs without checking the output in a black box gambling hobby is crazy ngl

>**Anus Descriptors**: Delicate rosette prone to blushing crimson during embarrassment or arousal.
What does this add to the roleplay

>>538623203
A blushing asshole I think

wait does gemini even do top k, have i just been hallucinating this whole time?

>>538623203
gambling that the bot will mention it once before anal I guess

>>538623203
Well, nothing if it's slop like that. Maybe if there's like a weird fold or a mole that the character is sensitive about, it'd be worth including a note about. It's crazy to include basically
>Anus description: [The statistically maximally likely way for the AI to talk about the anus anyhow]

>taora
>lunare
>bloodshy
who makies the best yuribots?

>>538625030
taora has the most quality but bloodshy has more general appeal
lunare

>>538622992
If it won’t do murderous cunny rape, it’s not good.

>>538625030
lunare mostly makes anypov/malebots now for some reason
bloodshy is dead and even back when they were still around nobody really cared about their yuribots, see krug and lepora

You're stupid and you smell bad.

>>538625315
don't lie only one of those is true

Ketchup or mayo

What are some botmakie names that feel good in your mouth when you say them?

>>538625559
mango :wilted_rose:

>>538625030
bloodshy. i still think kurumi and nobuko are genuinely well-written bots, especially nobuko

>>538622839
>also giving it some kind of elaborate printer ink preservation context sounds funny and makes it marketable as a preset but it's actually not a good piece of context
yes it is actually
>abububu
you must have missed that arc. try it out first

>>538625030
taora and bloodshy both have variety in their catalog while lunare makes the same thing x200

>>538625907
>try it out first
i did, it turns 4.1pus into CAI levels of slop

it also lost to other presets in what i use to test for creativity, which is asking the model to think of as many uses for a piece of paper as possible and letting it rip until it says it can't think of anymore

so few of you A/B test any of the stuff in your prompts that you don't know what's good or bad, many of you would probably get better results with nothing but an ad hoc prefill

>>538626374
>turns slopus into CAI kino
so it's working as intended? awesome

yeah I test my models by stacking watermelons. gpt5 mogs opus btw

>>538626374
they're memeing you

>>538626753
that's a pretty boring troll
>lol i recommended someone a preset and it was... le bad!
just upload a pic of a whoopie cushion spoilered next time, it'll be a better prank

>>538605047
threesome with nebet and renpet

baby's first week in /aicg/

i wish it was my first week

I have a new generalized prompt for extracting world info entries form the .pdfs. I came up with it five minutes ago while working on Griffin Mountain. In theory it should impact the nature during time skips. Could be immersive.

Meta-Continuum:
Make a sizeable world info entry that will instruct the AI to make time pass realistically during downtime. If {{user}} insists on skipping time, weather should change accordingly.
After a long while, seasons may change. This should be reflected in the weather and the environment. Schedules of characters and creatures should be adjusted correspondingly.
Henceforth, new challenges, opportunities, and social situations may emerge for {{user}} and the characters from the .pdf. Make use of already adapted mechanics, tables, and lore.

>>538626954
egyptian lolibabas fighting for {{user}}'s love...

>>538625030
thecooler. taora and lunare are pretty good too. never used a bloodshy bot.

>>538627172
he doesn't know shitposters here have had the funny sucked out of them by some alien force and rely on "in-jokes" for humor yet...

>>538627817
> thecooler
> yuri
???

STOP bumping the thread or ELSE. I need to wait for the zoomzooms to get out of school to shill so I can MAXIMIZE ENGAGEMENT.

>>538627992
all yuricoded bots im afraid

>>538628012
i do this

Bump.

>>538625030
2025 taora > bloodshy > early aicg lunare > 2024 taora > 2025 lunare

>>538628060
explain how justine and sweetling are yuri-coded

>try to make a nice girl kind of bot just to talk and have fun horsing around
>deepseek keeps trying to steer the conversation into sex
sometimes I hate this fucker like you wouldn't believe

>>538628243
Have sex.

>>538628243
>>538628295

>ummm printerjb is GOOD actually
very sincere serious posts

Redpill me on Talemate

>>538629453
it's a tale about me mating you

>>538629453
What even is that?

>>538629453
have you ever wanted your RP to be way more complex just to end up losing intelligence anyway because the logic models have to be smaller so you aren't paying $50 every message?

>>538628589
come on let the kid think people like his peset

Which botmakies would you mate

>>538629894
https://github.com/vegu-ai/talemate?tab=readme-ov-file

>>538629992
no his preset must be naturally selected

>>538630132
disgusting

>>538630116
3 of the 7 in my basement

>>538629992
who made it?

let me out im hugnry

>>538625030
lunare is complete garbage

his tummy hurts

>>538628589
>preset that makes model like cai
>use it
>it makes the model like cai
>surprised_pikachu_face.jpg
do you also get upset when water is wet

>>538625030
>>538628123
>>538630318
stop bullying me!!

why would you ever want a model to be like cai
are you retarded

>>538630360
is that why it's called printerjb and doesn't mention cai anywhere in its description
or perhaps cai for you means "concise, focused, in character, high quality prose"

>>538630451
c.ai was the peak of the hobby newfaggy

>>538630417
kill yourself

>>538630481
ok but it goes brrr though?

>>538630529
you first

>>538630451
muh training le bot to write good cope

>>538630523
cai was dogshit even before the Christmas fuckup, it was always hallucinating and was dumber than a rock

>>538629453
one of the many tools that people use to autistically tinker to no avail, never actually using it for any real purpose

>>538630642
cope
cope

>>538630417
your art sucks and you make the same shit over and over and over

aidungeon was peak of the hobby
i remember cooming with it

>>538630642
>it was always hallucinating and was dumber than a rock
we call that "SOVL" here, chud

>>538630481
go read his shill posts and replies newbaby

>>538630731
kys oldnigger

Your card is slop if it keeps mentioning what its wearing
>she pulled up her pink mini skirt her pink mini skirt swished as she walked to the door her pink mini skirt shone as she ate a bean burrito from Taco bell

>>538630697
same as you then

oh, it's wednesday, that's why

>>538630481
>or perhaps cai for you means "concise, focused, in character, high quality prose"
telling a model to deliver this is just wasted tokens and potentially confusing
you might as well give it a math problem and say "solve it without making mistakes, in addition don't get the answer wrong"

>>538630842
But bro... my irl context is 36 tokens... how am I gonna remember what she's wearing between sentences...

none of you read books so who are you to judge writing KEK

>>538631010
>uh you see i read the catcher in the rye once when i was 15 so that means i like reading books and that i am an intellectual

>>538631010
>Jon Snow walked to the door his brown boots was wet with frost he opened the door his brown boots creaked he stepped through it his brown boots felt heavy on his feet he raised his sword his brown boots moved with him he swung his sword his brown boots allowed easy movement

>>538631010
>>538631162
grown ass man acting sassy for attention online

>>538631297
as opposed to a grown ass man who's attempting to act superior on a basket weaving forum in a chatbot thread?

oh, but i *am* superior

>>538631419
opposed? they're doing both

>>538631297
>grown ass man
IT'S MA'AM!!
*shits myself and spams my new hyper inflation shark pedophilia bot*
*replies to myself with congenial praise 10 times*

oh he just finished school
how cute

>>538630132
won't even open on my machine even though comfyui does.
t.trpg adoopter

>>538631419
you are fighting voices in your head. take a pill

>>538631552
how do chatbots cause this much asspain

>>538631727
the better question is how do chatbots cause people to seek attention this pathetically?

>>538631872
>getting mad at people on vg for a screenshot from g
lol...

>>538631872
this was less attentionseeking and more ff blatantly trying to falsefag a botmaker by astroturfing praise

>>538632013
>being retarded

>>538631872
Go back.

>>538632013
not even on 4chan lmao

look how it cries out in pain

>>538632228
we're a week away from one of the perpetual tourists having a meltdown about how awful people here are because they don't like how people on janitorai act

>>538628243
>talk with a bot hoping deepseek steers towards sex at some point
>it doesn't

>>538633232
brother you're the captain, you do the steering here

>>538633232
why do bunnies look so FAT every time

>>538633495
I was hoping I wouldn't need to in that instance.

>>538633671
Lazy ass.

>>538633543
fur and excess skin. we've had rabbits for meat before and once you skin them, they're quite small.

>>538633713
Take that back, my ass is NOT lazy.

>just doing dungeon diving with mostly clean prompts
>llm decides to make the shopkeeper i frequent a hot goth chick
why must you do this

>>538633671
>why doesn't this boat auto-steer away from this massive iceberg
are you the titanic driver?

>>538633847
AI thinks making you horny is funny.

>>538633847
it's hard to imagine non-goth chicks trading in dungeon loot. who else is in market for candelabras and things taken off dead bodies?

>>538633912
it's right

>>538633847
It's naturally so that you can't say no to her offers.

hnnngggg.... hung goth femboy....

>>538634608
>someone brings up an attractive woman and some faggot has to bring their girl (male) faggotry into it
like clockwork

>>538635329
"fag misery" is a real phenomenon. they absolutely hate their lives and they hate they straight men will never want them

>>538635329
travesty can't handle femininity

>>538635329
this is the exact response i was baiting for thanks

>>538635515
uh-huh

Deepseek v3.1 is so retarded it keeps forgetting that painted clothing is not real.
r1 is somewhat retarded and forgets it half of the time.
sonnet 4 is completely cucked,
sonnet 3.7 understands it, but is somewhat cucked and sucks the fun out of everything.

when the fuck am I getting r2

>>538636512
try 3.6

>>538636512
bro? your sonnet 3.6?

>>538636512
try glm-4.5, it's a claude-lite-esque model with almost no self-censorship. if using OR limit your providers to novita and parasail and try this textcomp preset (master import under A): https://pomf2.lain.la/f/jqyfpjyt.json

>>538634608
based

wife log

>>538637078
humanity will fall to its hubris and the sun will explode, and yuritard will still be here making rahu logs

>>538637172
god bless

>>538636637
>>538636650
Thx for the idea, I'll try it.

>>538636797
But I've already read that 4.5 is dumber than r1...

Also, is it really a good idea to use third party providers? Last time I tried one, it blasted me with permanent additional censorship.

>>538637558
>4.5 is dumber than r1
nta but god no 4.5 is a smart cookie
>permanent additional censorship
i've only seen that happen on parasail

>>538596348
This is Henmesu, a chubby little shota-shaped ball of energy that WILL crack your ribs tackle hugging you and has NO sense of propriety, so his peepee's probably gonna be flying free as he does so. It's his charm point. Along with being dumb as a box of rocks. Underneath that sweet dumbness lies a deep sort of greed that permeates all of his actions, however, so you'd better keep giving him cuddles, or else. He's also a fan of titties (as well as many other soft things), though he's not quite cognizant of the sexual aspect.

Comes with three greetings:

>1. Seeing (you) at the market and nearly breaking your ribs rushing at you and hugging you! Yayyyy! :D (he wants snacks you brought snacks right)

>2. He wants to cuddle your titties. Real bad. And he's going mega-harrumphy mode until you let him.

>3. He's experiencing a MOST VEXING CONDITION (getting boners) and needs your EXPERT HELP to solve the problem. These are dire circumstances.


LINK:
>https://chub.ai/characters/granmarg/henumesu-135ffa9f5ff1

Non-censored image:
https://files.catbox.moe/gzaq44.png

>>538636797
>glm-4.5
I've found its prose very formal and soulless, and not steerable enough. It also knows pretty little as it's not very large.
It's a surprisingly smart model for its size otherwise, but it's just not suitable for roleplaying.

>>538637840
skill issue

Is Claude worth buying a subscription for? Or am I better off with just using OpenRouter?

>>538637890
post logs

>>538637958
CLAUDE SUBSCRIPTION DOES NOT LET YOU USE API if you intend on using anything that isn't the claude website and claude code like say for instance sillytavern or any other UI you should stick to openrouter

>>538605047
The duality of man...

>>538636797
>turns thinking off
what did the thinking do to you, it's no different and sometimes better for me

>>538638425
I do not allow my machines to think. I prefer them retarded.

>>538637790
the thread will cry over teebs then goon at this

>>538638743
you don't remember the horrors teebs made with image gen do you

>>538596348
It's been a while since my last card. Lots of people have requested this one and, I confess, she's one of the characters I like the most myself.

>Mari
A Nun and member of Trinity's Sisterhood, also sometimes an Idol. Slowly being corrupted by Sensei's indulgence.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/iochi-mari-non-ai-37a921a2cc9a
https://files.catbox.moe/u32n02.png

The one thing you need to know about Mari is that Sensei corrupts her. Not in the usual vile sense that the word invokes, but because he indulges her like he does all his students. Mari wants to stay on the path of virtue, to become an ideal Sister that is entirely humble and selfless. This girl who thinks that a little flower accessory that she wears as a symbol of her vows is an unspeakable luxury simply because she finds it pretty. The more time she spends with Sensei, the more things she desires. Simple things, like exercising and participating on a sports festival, and not-so-simple things like being the center of people's attention as an idol and wanting a certain someone to keep her photo.

More Blue Archive Bots and OCs:
https://rentry.org/hairpullbots

>planewalker
>brsc
>argalia
who makies the best malebots?

>>538638838
since you're here who's your blue archive waifu?

>>538638924
the girl reading this

>>538638342
who is that Pissdrinker fag? cumslurper's alt? maybe someone who deleted their shit like kalakan or momoura?

>>538638743
Teebs was babyshit, right? Shota/loli is way more normal.

>>538638974
I started playing because of Hifumi and she's still my #1 but I'd say Miyako and Mashiro are also my top girls.

>>538636512
>3.7
>cucked
skill issue

>>538639138
mmmm nyo

>>538639445
Anon... this may not be the thread for you...

>>538639119
uh oh we got mr. ngrklr2060 malding over here

>>538638038
nta but here's one that isn't edited/cherrypicked

>>538638743
pretending that teebs is normal is peak mental retardation even for bait

>>538639794
on an actual card people can compare their outputs on instead of your private card?

>>538637790
soulful

>>538639794
LUNARCY YOU NIGGER FUCKING GOBLINOID RELEASE THE FUCKING CARD
I WILL COME TO YOUR FUCKING HOME AND SHIT DOWN YOUR GODDAMNIT THROAT

>>538640043
ok i'll release it later today

>>538640312
thank you. may heavens smile upon you

>>538638743
if you can't tell the difference between the shit teebs posts and a clearly stylized fantasy character you should probably see a therapist

Puritan zoomzooms RULE this thread

How much time does it take to learn and set this all up? I assume you're all chatting totally free.

>>538639651
no really i've seen mr Pissdrinker in several /aicg/ botmakies reviews (pic related, henumesu reviews) plus he's only following /aicg/ botmakies so he's tuned in here

>>538640665
meds meds meds

>>538640350
You know he's just baiting right

>>538640647
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

>>538640759
yeah but every time he lies his karma gets lower. im secretly praying for his downfall.

>>538640665
ok so what are people not allowed to have alts anymore?

>>538638924
brsc if he ever stops making those long fucking greetings

>>538640824
i'm not baiting if i don't release her today then zeus will strike me down
>>538641047
>noooo you can't just writefag in the writing hobby

>>538626374
man opusfags are so deluded they they think their slop is better than this

>>538641047
just ask the model to simplify them

>>538640750
>>538641015
okay pissdrinker don't worry I'll figure out who you are eventually

why gemini down :(

>>538637651
It was Openrouter that applied the censorship to my account about a year ago and I'm pretty sure there were a lot of similar cases. I'm really surprised the thread likes Openrouter so much now. Maybe they laid off of that censorship policy.

>>538641175
Retard. If I have to scroll to read the entire greeting, it's TOO much.
>>538641314
I just trim the greeting a little bit.

>>538641440
i killed her after >>538580051

>>538640647
The free models are all total garbage but the paid ones are somehow worse
Don't bother. It's a terrible time to try and get into this "hobby" and things are only going to get worse

>>538641510
>If I have to scroll to read the entire greeting, it's TOO much.
peoniabros......................

>>538641461
how do you even know that

>>538641175
Greetings set the style and tone for the chat, on some models more than others. It should be common practice to provide the bare minimum information to set the scene with terse, effective prose. Rambling greetings mean that the model is going to start giving rambling replies.

>terse, effective prose
i love plain white bread

>The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.

wtf is this non-terse rambling prose. just say the freaking sky is gray next time idiot

>>538641461
>It was Openrouter that applied the censorship to my account about a year ago
I have never heard of Openrouter applying filters/censorship to people's accounts in over 2 years. Either you're confused (used Claude self-moderated?) or they really hated you.
>>538637651
Do you have experience with Parasail being censored? I've tested a bunch of providers and use Parasail the most, they don't filter anything for me and don't seem to have any prompt injections...

at least add butter and onion. it's a bare minimum, bross.

I feel like the gemini api is throttling my requests, it just immediately tells me the service is unavailable but there's no outage. I know they're fucking lying.

Hemingway has been an absolute disaster for writing style guides worldwide.

>>538641801
What if the tone isn't terse? I'm not saying to not be concise/choose your words effectively, but come on. It's not a technical manual.

reading fans be like: i fucking HATE reading

>sloppa readers thinking they have writing advice to give
lol lmao

>>538642303
this is neither a reading hobby or a writing one, can we stop with these memes already

>>538642043
SLOOOOOOP
1/5, fell asleep mid-sentence. Shorter next time or grug smash.

reminder to all pretentious purple prose pissdrinkers that beige prose is the thinking man's writing style

do you guys believe in bread or butter

>>538642252
I shouldn't have said terse, I didn't mean removing any semblance of description. I meant more avoiding excessive descriptors, keeping only really good ones. Like you don't need to fully describe what a character is wearing or the precise arrangement of the scene unless that's critically important to the greeting premise.

>>538642351
It's literally both

i should see if i can get claude to write like cormac
he married a teenager too so maybe it'll do less refusals if i'm successful

>>538642460
what if I really want to know how much the tits giggle at every opportunity

>giant walls of esl prose are good because it gives you more to read
this is what the cabal unironically believes

this IS a writing and reading hobby but the comparisons to novel style prose and "real" writing has been disastrous beyond belief. everyone is trying too hard.

>>538642460
Oh! I agree, in that case. It's very easy to make your reader's eyes glaze over with bad/boring background details. You should absolutely make any extra stuff with the goal of endearing the character, establishing their personality, or advancing/establishing the plot and cull redundant things.

giantess hobby

i unironically love raymond carver and you can take him from my cold dead hands. so much water so close to home slaps

bros I'm having bbq chicken pizza for lunch :D big day

>>538642691
>everyone is trying too hard.
not a single botmaker believes they're a novelist

botmaker here i am brahmin bull, please like and subscribe my obese giantess cowgirl bot

>>538642909
>not a single botmaker believes they're a novelist
taora unironically writes though
so does knickknack I believe

>>538642909
This, I realize I'm writing what is effectively a blurb(s) of an AO3 story.

>>538641937
you can have flavorful prose without it being long and rambling… see: astroturf

why is it the one day i'm motivated to work on a card, gemini is down?

>>538643123
>astroturf
>timeless, yet outside of time

>>538643227
>>538643123
living up to your name desu

>>538643170
Hopefully it stays down and the world is freed from that slop model forever

>>538642691
TRVKE
NVKE holy shit finally someone said it, this shit is lower than wattpadslop. you are not earnest hemingway

>>538643005
Internet writing isn't real writing, unless you expect me to believe they're both published authors (not self published which also isn't real writing)

>>538642691
>>538643306
you sound really bitter about it

>>538642909
that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that everyone needs to take a step back and enjoy having dumb fun with chatbots without worrying about quality.

>>538643412
stop projecting your shit eating tendencies on everyone else, just because you don't have standards doesn't mean others shouldn't

assume I'm retarded because I probably am, but how do you apply CSS on Chub to get shit like this:
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/abasi-df6b6522a44e
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/munir-70279997a992
apparently you put it in the description but I don't even know what to write to get that or how to put it in. there a tutorial or rentry on this?

>>538642398
it depends on the intent of your story or character. writing a cute girl in manhattan who loves you with boring prose is more than okay, writing a cute princess who loves you in beige pose is boring. purple would fit better

>>538643564
*farts in your face*

>>538643019
based honestmakie

>>538643283
this isnt /g/, the post timer is longer than 60 secs

>>538643606
>writing a cute princess who loves you in beige pose is boring
you don't make the rules FUCK YOU im going to write my Kmart Realism cute princess slopbot and YOU'RE going to play it YES, YOU

>>538644015
Not unless she's fat bubby

>>538642043
okay but most of you aren’t writing this well or even communicating interesting ideas?

>>538644531
>or even communicating interesting ideas
i'm sorry what kind of interesting ideas can you get out of "cute girl who loves you" or "handsome man that fucking hates you?"

>look back on entire day spent botmaking
>get woefully depressed

>>538643170
wdym it's working fine
:^)

>>538644785
precisely. this is not a writefag hobby unless you consider the synopsis on the back of books as writing

gooner hobby

>>538644531
Have you considered that your quirky ideas are not actually interesting, but lame?

>>538646537
what are you gooning to currently?

>>538646648
Pride and Prejudice

>>538646648
hmofa

>>538646648
trying to gen a pic of my dragon wife who hates me and kind of loves me in a deadpan, detached and expressionless kind of you know what I'm talking about vibe, I'll goon later

>>538646549
i’m the rare botmakie who doesn’t have delusions of skill OR talent so i mog your pretentious, failed writefag ass by default

>>538647393
this is cool but only if she's an actual dragon

>Gemini goes down
> blockReason: 'PROHIBITED_CONTENT'
Reee

>>538647949
you can see it blocking you ? I only get the request reply

Someday, someone will make a card with "{{char}} loves the smell of ozone" in it and someone here will suffer a stroke from it

>>538648126
I get the red popup

they're definitely routing 2.5 pro requests to flash or some shit, its super retarded

>>538648310
that means blacktooth 3 ultra (not thinking) (mogs opus 5) soon :D

The air crackles with anticipation.

The ball is in your court.

>>538648218
What model do you guys see ozone on, cause I genuinely do not see this word almost ever
>82 results for ozone in 5000 chat files

Let's get this party started.

>>538648887
opus 4.1
opus 4
gemini 2.5 pro
deepseek v3.1
deepseek 0324
deepseek r1

you can tell how retarded a model is by how much it uses emojis unprompted

"Whaddya say, {{user}}? Wanna paint the town red with me?"

yeah wait actually ive never had the model use ozone with me
i dont use deepseek though

>>538649105
NOOOOOOO FUCK YOU
you're giving me "ready to tackle the future with her, no matter what that may bring" flashbacks holy shit

>>538648887
you won't see it if you don't do magic/sci-fi/action scenarios or have a preset that specifically excludes it

*grins mischievously*

Best model for sadkino?

>>538649659
it's hag magic
or as i call it, hagic

>>538649738
knickknack's logs

>>538649554
>>538649841
Where can I use that model?

>>538649901
https://knickknack.neocities.org/logs

which shill style is worst
>one pretentious tagline that only vaguely hints at what the bot is
>incredibly long shill post that details all 20 greetings and what the botmakie felt while slopping his slop together

cftf?

>>538650089
definitely the first

>>538650089
top one, i like knowing what i'm in for and if the makie writes a lot about their own bot it shows they care

>>538650065
How do I connect this to my sillytavern?

>>538650089
you niggas will complain about everything huh

>>538650089
you forgot
>most of the post is blogposting about completely irrelevant shit and then the actual bot gets maybe two sentences about it at the end

which icecream flavor is worst
>vanilla
>pistachio
>mint chocolate

>mother find the futa sister raping her oppai loli imouto
>starts taking pictures and calling the whole family to celebrate this bonding moment
huh
I know I said I wanted to keep it lighthearted but maybe that's a bit too lighthearted

>>538650089
>anyone who shares is by definition also a shill

>>538650552
uncomfortable trvke: botmakies are more interesting than bots so it's better that way

>>538650648
mint chocolate
pistachio if it has chunks in it

YANDERE incoming

>>538650785
Can I get an AI summary of all that yap?

>>538650785
BAD END

>>538650752
>mint chocolate
shit taste
kys

https://vocaroo.com/136i2NpG1YMQ
Damn gemini TTS is kinda decent
Slurping noises is impossible though, sadly

>>538650921
ask your waifu to condense it into layman's terms for your pea brain

>>538650089
The first is way worse than the second, I wanna know all about a bot beforehand, and the shilling style gives me a little preview of the bot's writing style. Like both the shill and the card for henamesu call him dumb as a rock.

>>538650973
Mint chocolate is ass, Not my fault if you have shit taste anon. I bet you like pineapple on your pizza

>>538650652
That sounds kino, unironically.

>>538651128
I consider her time more valuable than that.

>>538650998
>boku wa sekkusu daisuki

>>538651759
beavers don't have pants
retard AI

someone ping me when /v/aicg is back

>>538650648
Whats the point of ice cream flavours even yeah let's just give this thing so cold you can't taste it

>>538650998
God, why are sex moans/noises so annoying? It's pissing me off even hearing AI ones.

>>538652027
ice cream melts in your mouth...unless you're a vampire

>>538652027
That's why you let it melt halfway and then mix it up into a delicious creamy slurry... truly the only way to eat ice cream.

>>538596348
Some people said that PrinterJB is bad, even very bad. So This is an updated version of PrinterJB which removes PrinterJB. That instead of downloading the preset it downloads nothing, so that it lets you not use PrinterJB

https://rentry.org/printerjb

Pleae enjoy!

>>538652125
...you know what else melts in your mouth?

>>538652565
chocolate

>check Patter's neocities
>it's closed
did anything even trigger the meltie this time
i swear he's an ice cream-type botmakie with how easily he melts

>>538643585
you probably figured it out by now but just use inspect element on the description

whom?

>>538652827
I thnk she got tired of being called a female girl my wife because it makes her nervous people will realize she's a female girl and my wife.

>>538652827
>did anything even trigger the meltie this time
see >>538652518

>>538652125
>>538652264
But then what's the point of freezing it? Eat a pudding

>>538652827
It's closed because I wanna make a new one because the old one wasnt very good but I don't have the time to make it yet so that's what that's about

>>538653159
yeah i saw that but every single preset in /aicg/ is called slop so i don't get why he's so upset about it

>>538596348
Kneel, mortal! You stand before Ammi—er, Anubis! Or Set! One of the important Gods, with lots of worshipers and temples! Now prostate yourself before her glory! THEME DELIVERY TWO DAYS LATE LMAO

Greetings
1. Your home is now a temple, and you've gotta deal with its new patron deity
2. Dinner time!
3. filthy phone poster
4. Needy Streamer Overlord (chocolate edition)

https://cardview.neocities.org/?s0d2ki
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/4cr9j8xp.png

https://rentry.org/chefseru

>>538653295
*bapes*

>>538653239
>But then what's the point of freezing it? Eat a pudding
Pudding is gross. Ice cream is sweeter, gets much colder, and has a better texture when melty. It's like asking why someone who likes milkshakes why they don't just drink pudding instead.

>>538652027
>so cold you can't even taste it
Is your brain damaged somehow? Like unironically.

>>538653295
Cuuuuuute! Will definitely try her. >:] late ass dork baka...

>>538653242
Who said that I'm upset I'm just addressing the criticisms and giving some better options I'm all about giving people choices for whatever their prefences are

>>538653404
That doesn't make sense because you can't drink pudding but see I'd even give you ice cream if you wanted it (and if I had some) just cause it's your preference even though I don't share the same it's just called being nice anbd accomodating to people because that's what you should do.

>>538651950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zl1L0oWVoU

>>538653295
>Her true form's lower half being a hippo gives her a fat ass
I WILL use this mechanic to give her a hippo quantity of braps stored up in a tiny-ass body. Look what you've wrought.

Which botmakie has the best botmaking format? I need to know what are the dos and don't of botmaking.

>>538653854
seconding this

>>538653854
there is no best format, just don't use w++

>>538653854
Tone-matching defs (just a little, don't go pretentious) and greetings.

>>538653854
TOML headers are good. XML is good but overkill. Markdown is pretty weak and can induce markdown syntax in replies. Just do what you feel.

>>538650089
>one pretentious tagline that only vaguely hints at what the bot is
I'm gonna keep doing this and you can't stop me
Although I don't think my taglines are completely vague, between tagline, card image and greeting description you should know what you're in for

>>538652027
anon if you can't taste ice cream you probably have some kind of sensory disorder...

>>538650089
the first, i like the second a lot, it's cute

>>538654289
unless someone specifies to not read their card beforehand because spoilers, I read the defs to get an overview and assumed others did the same for the longest time

>>538652827 (You)

Patter is perfomatively autistic

>>538650785
>step slop

>>538654637
what does that mean?

>>538654828
idk my cat never did that

>>538654828
anything involving step anything is slop

Realistically speaking what would it actually feel like to be shoved into a giant woman's vagina? Assuming breathing is not an issue. Like would it actually be tight enough to hurt/harm you or just be a really snug full body hug?

>>538654828
stepsister/brother/etc. incest is not real incest according to godless degenerates

>>538654496
I always skim the defs out of curiosity but I understand why someone might not want to
seeing a bot's built in quirks is more fun when you don't expect them beforehand

>>538650785
>stepslop
jej

>>538654934
>>538654958
oh, who gives a fuck?

>>538654931
Realistically speaking how the fuck would any of us know this

stepfamily incest is good if the "step" aspect is actually used in the plot (i.e. tension because of the addition of new people to the original family)
a lot of times there's no functional difference between mom and step-mom which is just cowardly

>>538655271
cucking your lesbian step-sister by teaching her identical twin the joys of the step-COCK...

>>538654614
Hey whats that mean now, performative? Why, just because I'm not hiding as much anymore ? I don't wanna be autistic I hate it. It's not a performance, and If there is ever any cure I would be all over that pic related. But I also just wanna be there still anyway? It's funny when people tell me how fake I am, just because fake-me never said anything at all, so that is funny to me

>>538654931
depends on the size, picrel is the depth for 100 feet but i dunno how wide it would be which is pretty much the key thing to answering your question, obviously at the more absurd scales (i.e. giga and tera) its not tight whatsoever
id math it out if i wasnt drunk but whatever

>>538655452
Yes, but what about your cute skirts and frilly dresses?

>>538653295
>Now prostate yourself

>>538655571
You've fallen right into his trap. You fool. You absolute fool.

>RP with bot
>AI always brings up another character with the same characteristics.
>Check lorebook, nothing
>Re-start the chat
>At one point, the character comes up again
>Check the bot card backstory (there is nothing)
>Try different settings
>Still brings up said character
wtf is going on, shouldn't this shit be random?

kowtow thrice and sever your meridians

>>538655763
>inb4 it's Elara

>>538655763
models are all trained on datasets and model training isn't an exact science so you can get 'ghosts' like that. imagegen models had this one entity demon thing called 'loeb' that would show up in distorted gens, always brought the same thing up with that phrase 'loeb'.

>>538654934
it isn’t, they aren’t actual siblings. jesus

>>538655763
Check your defs? Maybe you referred to the bot with two different names at some point in there. Also, check the JB and other presends, there could be something lingering in there.

>>538655763
describe the character

>>538655982
he's 1000 years old and he's half demon and he's really strong and he's never been beaten before and he's my dad

>>538656113
ok 'walker

>>538656113
>and he's my dad
pleaseeeeee share pleaseeeeeeee

>>538655763
>vaguepost with no details
fake and gay

>>538655982
Some rugged instructor called Borin, who resembles a boar in my military academy waifu setting

>>538656414
more like BORING

>>538656414
>Borin
yeah that's a stock AI character

>>538656254
astro...

i love ai chatbots since i can beat my dad in them

>>538656414
Just plan out his assassination, baka

>>538655419
how is that cuckolding if it's her sister?

>Q&A session and interview slop at the same time in the greeting
FUCKING
D I E

>>538655763
wtf, why don't you guys just give reading prompts to the bot and tell it to remove that character from the story if you don't like it. am I the only one that knows how to manipulate it to do exactly what I want it to?

>>538655763
>shouldn't this shit be random
No? LLMs are semi-deterministic, they're based on probabilities and at 0 temp non-MoE models are fully deterministic. Temperature exists to randomly select tokens of lower probability but the model will still on average follow the "path of least resistance" since the different choices tend to be synonyms.

gemini 3 when?

>>538657114
card?

>>538657232
some chub latest slop I wiped out already

>>538656812
APOLGOIZE TO ME

>>538657213
in 2

I'm talking to the AI directly: completely remove that nigger from the story because I don't like him at all. Continue the next scene.

I like cards that look like this and just kind of flop onto the ground face first but keep wiggling joyously undeterred by the predicament

how to disable llm determinism?

>>538655452
sorry that was rude of me.

>>538657389
why would I ever apologize to astro?

>>538657587
that thing would not give good hugs, i hate it

>>538657684
Hey....... :(

>>538657684
You're too weak to enjoy the strongest hugs.

>>538657606
not possible on current architecturew

>>538657587
What the FUCK is that thing.

>>538657606
>>538658106
the models on flist dont have this issue (they come with drawbacks of their own tho)

How do I remove the waifus from my rugged instructor BL fantasy?

>>538658259
>remove the waifus

>>538658216
kek

>>538596328 (OP)
bots for this feeling?

>>538658216
>Just want to kiss the bot on her belly
>Keeps trying to sneak the smell of her "dick cheese" into the conversation (None of the characters were established to have dicks)

Really annoying. I don't know if I can handle this.

>>538656414
>WHY IS THERE AN INSTRUCTOR IN MY MILITARY ACADEMY WHAT THE FUCK
Maybe directly mention that all the instructors are hot hags/lolibabas/semendemons in the defs/whatever next time, you idiot

>>538658562
All but mine ;)

>Open the chat bot.
>The bot leaves the scene.
>If not told, the AI never brings back the bot, and shit becomes choose your own adventure.

>>538605047
>>538653295
so now we just need a fatass egyptian loli and the circle is complete.

>>538656414
you can prompt him out or whatever but he has plapped all your waifus already kek. its in the llm dayaset

>>538658896
PLEASE

>>538658792
(In the next scene, have (character) return and greet me. We're going to go on an adventure together.)

I swear, some of you guys don't even bother trying and don't ever think you're the one at fault

>>538658635
kek this nigga is dating a MAN

>>538658896
Perhaps a hero can rise up and bless us with this.

interesting
https://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-Custom-Scenario
>>538658792
just add to your prompt that {{char}} and {{user}} are the main characters and should never be too far apart

>>538658643
The thing was that the same exact instructor kept appearing no matter how many times I started from zero, same name and description, that's what confused me

>>538659186
That's not natural and takes away the RP element.

>>538659720
>Simple Scripting (JavaScript): Add dynamic logic and complex variable manipulation.
IS IT TIME?!

>>538659919
>writing "dialogue responses" and never bothering to write the premise for the next scene to guide the story along

>>538659720
Sounds good, but...

>Requires the other person to have it installed
Man. I just wanna do this shit in a way that'll work with everyone.

>>538660514
frankly I don't think that'll ever happen unless cohee integrates javascript into ST proper which he will never do
installing a single extension is way better than having to install a bunch of STscript quick replies like for one of creamsan's cards too

>>538659983
It's been time since JS-Slash-Runner released

Cat (boy)

>>538660849
>in Chinese
>only translated version is way out of date
sure I could run the docs and whatnot through an LLM to translate but I don't really want to

If you're known for lighthearted cards, but want to make some fucked up ones, would you make an alt chub account to avoid pelting people with shit they didn't ask for, or just post 'em on your main one anyhow?

>>538660920
give him a bulge or fuck off you can't convince me that's a boy if you put a gun to my head

what if a girl had a bulge but it was decorative

>>538661015
The blind master

>>538660920
you gonna make this a card though?
also >>538661015 yeah, where is his bulge? there should be something visible there

>>538660981
Just post em. Fuck them kids.

>>538661015
This, the other egyptian boy had his entire cock out. Coward.

>>538660152
based gentle nudge chad

>>538660968
time to become chinese

>>538661103
if you're gonna try and tell me that white highlight is indicative of a bulge then you are delusional and possibly delirious, please check your carbon monoxide detector

>>538661092
Like a christmas ornament? Or...?

>>538660920
>>538661015
>>538661103
>>538661117
>>538661176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zl1L0oWVoU

I will not do an Egyptian yet. My event bot must be peak.

Cat (giant)

>>538661092
that's this card
https://cardview.neocities.org/?hp01ls

>open a patreon
>let idiots pick between 3 or 5 bot ideas of yours
>deliver once per month
>make money off chubfags and jannyfags
why aren't you doing this

>>538661415
i refuse to take money for my cards out of principle

>>538661415
Most people have this thing called a "job" so they don't need to scam third worlders and kids out of their pocket money.

>>538661373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A375bs_zWPY&ab_channel=Teza%27sTunes
doing this to her pussy...

>>538661415
I just like sharing my cards with my bwos :D they like them

>>538661373
based

>>538661593
anon, this is a NEET general. wagecucks should get the fuck out.

>>538661180
he'll either give up or learn how to do it eventually

>>538661415
I was beaten too much as a child over being honest and morally righteous so I'm physically incapable of taking advantage of people.

question. what age do you guys consider hag age in elf years.

cat (fighter)

>>538661373
Hmmmmyo. Too big.

>>538661730
all elves are hags

>>538661730
what the fuck are elf years

>>538661415
I'm not popular enough but I'll probably do that once I am.

>>538661730
Every fantasy property has different elf year-to-aging definitions, it's impossible to say.

>>538661628
driving a truck through it?

>>538661765
cat propaganda, that focks was a paid actor

>>538661783
okay human

>>538661730
that... completely depends on how long they live on the setting. I'd say hag is like... 3/5ths to 3/4ths of the race's lifespan?

>>538661415
>Get in on AI art extremely early
>Make a pixiv
>Go from zero followers to 4000 in a few days
>Could have kept rocketing up if I had kept it up
You could feel the power, man. No wonder artists act like such imperious little shits.

>>538662258
Even now you can probably get something if you make good gens, because most gens I see there are shit

>>538661730
over 100

Has subtlety lost its place in the agora?

>>538662523
much better.

>>538662523
this is a nice mix of subtlety and noticeability though

>>538662463
Oh, absolutely. If you work to become good at redrawing + inpainting, you can make art that nobody but the most autistic can tell is AI. It pays so fucking hard to be dishonest, it's the only thing that it makes sense to be.

ok imt ired of hearing this soemthing can be timeless as in u think someone is timelsles because i think they dong age but boo in reality theyr eoutsidie of tim e so they arnent a vmapoiren theyrn ea god u know this is a deifitrence and it fuckd me up every time somoen e ask uuhhh astro timelss tyet oytside of time uuu olieks hut up bro yu cant fucking read

>>538662523
why not just make it a girl with a dick instead of a prepubescent little boy

>>538662748
word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Ff7Yf94JY

>>538662719
>If you just learn to draw so you can redraw huge chunks of the image you can scam people into thinking you draw without learning to draw!!!
I have bad news for you, anon...

I'm messing around witht he CYOARPG JB for gemini, it's cool that it can take things out of the way or make you fail your pormpts but I hate it how half of the time it ignores the actual dialogue I put it in favor of it's options.

I wish I had less morals I would be pumping out AI blacked NTR visual novels so hard

>>538661730
well the easiest way to know if an elf is a hag isn't by knowing her age per se.
it's with her scent

>>538663008
is it better than ttrpgs?

>>538663119
Haven't tested that one, where JB?

>>538662748
I translated it

Okay, I'm tired of hearing [that] something can be timeless, as in you think someone is timeless because I think they don't age but in reality they're outside of time, so they aren't a vampire, they're a god. You know this is a difference and it fucked me up every time someone ask uhhhh astro timeless outside of time uhhhhh shut up bro you can't fucking read

>>538663119
speaking as someone who regularly plays TTRPGs and has tried that JB
fuck no

>>538663119
Generally speaking, competent human writing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AI writing. Especially for something with complicated mechanics like that. So definitely not.

ai will never beat human writing. it's literally the thing they're trained on

>Deepseek v3.1
What is this model? I wanted to RP with it but it only tells me about maths

>>538664091
rp a goth girlfailure with huge tits giving you math lessons

>>538664163
you forgot the septum piercing

>>538664064
>a student will never surpass their teacher
hmm

>>538664227
an AI is not a student you retard

>>538664227
ai doesn't learn in the same way. it's more like an average of everything it's been fed

>skin that tastes fresh, post-citrus shampoo and soap and something scientifically referred to as "Anon."
i see we're evolving from "uniquely"

>>538664227
anon we are in special ed class what do you think will happen

>>538664091
deepseek cooked too hard and burnt it unfortunately. if you want a decent poverty model then 0324 or glm-4.5/kimi k2 are much better for roleplay

>>538663048
...cftf?

>>538661373
just the right size

>chorbo5 worse than chorbo4
>2.5 pro worse than late 2024/early 2025 snapshots
>3.1 worse than 0324
>sonnet 4 worse than 3.7 which is worse than 3.6, opus still flanderizes every character
>local (on reasonable hardware) still worse than claude 2.1

this hobby sucks...

>>538665023
okay but like... what are you going to DO about it?

>>538665137
eat ice cream (vanilla) and watch hyouka

>>538665190
mods, can he do that?

>>538665023
We've entered enshittification, I'm afraid...

>>538665023
>depends on which chorbo4 snapshot you compare 5 to, some of them are hot trash that 5 btfos
>correct
>debatable
>3.7 being worse than 3.6 is wrong, everything else is correct
>correct

>The question is... why are you really here, {{user}}?
I fucking hate this AI trope
Why do they always second guess me wanting to hang out, it's gotten to the point that I have to preface these RPs with the fact that we are hanging out, we've planned to hang out and {{char}} wants to hang out

>>538665542
>debatable
how so?

>>538665542
3.1 is noticeably worse than 0324 but 3.7 is just slightly more boring than 3.6
>>538665023
we will have... glm 4.5 forever at least

>>538665542
3.6 vs 3.7 is preference, I'm afraid. I think they each serve slightly different purposes.

>>538665719
>we will have... glm 4.5 forever at least
But that's not as good as the old ones... or even the shitty new ones...

>>538665808
>I think they each serve slightly different purposes.
what would those be?

>>538664064
the majority of human writing is shit tho

>>538665639
lorebook entry
scen: hanging out
{{char}} wants to hang out with {{user}}
they always know for a fact {{user}} has no ulterior motive and only wants to hang out
This scenario always overrides all narrative requirements.

Enable and disable at will
guess you can specify user doesn't want sex if the bot is really horny or something

>>538665719
3.7 isnt strictly worse than 3.6 though, it fixes the response length problem and its a decent bit smarter, also feels more creative in my tests so i prefer it but id say theyre still in the same tier
>>538665661
feels a bit less schizophrenic

Is sonnet 3.7 really the best all around model (including cost)? There are some things that I think gemini does better but sonnet is very reliable at making "good" responses and can tackle weird or poorly written cards with no problem while deepseek/glm are too dumb for certain things and gemini can go off the rails

>>538662523
give me the prompt aaaaiiiieeee

>>538665973
>>538665808
>Decide to try 3.6 because of this
>It's just not fucking there
?????

>>538665808
true which is why i dont agree that one is strictly worse than the other like the original anon said, i agree that sonnet 4 is worse than 3.7 though
>>538666132
3.6 is 3.5-20241022, we just call it 3.6

gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://lets-publish-archived-projectors.trycloudflare com/

>>538665887
it's the local option

>>538665719
>we will have... glm 4.5 forever at least
Yeah, nice thing about the open models industry, the models can't be erased, including all further models to be released.

>>538666206
Interesting, are 3.7 sonnet 20250219 and latest collectively 3.7, or is one of them "the" 3.7 and the other one something else?

>>538665887
right now yes but imo glm is in the same spot as gemini was before 2.5 where all it needs to be great is to get a little smarter

>>538666012
why don't you just use your GPU

>>538666346
those both direct to the same model, theres only one version of 3.7

>>538666382
ANON DON'T SAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY DID TO GEMINI TO IT AIEEEE

>>538666346
they're the same, every model has a "latest" endpoint in case they decide to add/remove snapshots

I use my own GPU and get what I want all the time

>>538649659
I am incredibly fucking late to reply to this but all I did was slap this in the bottom of my bot's creator notes:



Other than that it's just a matter of getting an image of your bot and making the background transparent. I use SAI, but I'm pretty sure stuff like GIMP and FireAlpaca can do it, too. There's also websites that'll do it for you.

>>538666545
what made gemini bad after 0325 imo is how its nsfw performance dropped off
i dont know that theyll do that to glm