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>News:
- Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake releases October 30 2025 on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X/S, and PC.
- Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is now available on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X/S, and PC.
- Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince is now available on Switch, PC, and mobile phones.
- Dragon Quest Keshi Keshi and Dragon Quest Champions ended their service.
- Dragon Quest Builders is now available on PC, including all QoL that the mobile port had.
- Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai is now available on PS4/5, Switch, and PC.
- Dragon Quest Treasures, a treasure hunting RPG featuring Erik and Mia from Dragon Quest XI, is now available for the Switch and PC.
- Dragon Quest X is available on PC in English via a fan translation. Check DQX Resources for more info.
- Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate has been announced. Details aside from the title are unknown.

>Guides:
/dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2
Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqv
DQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/Monsterpedia
Dragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0Ypme
DQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201
DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS

>Links:
ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2S
Anime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuzi
Music: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa
日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/
DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW

>OP
https://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ

>BROTHERS IN ARMS
>>>/vg/eagg/

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>>538632278 (OP)
The owner's puff-puff, please!
I've been waiting since last thread!

>>538633407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLRHejWAo8

Never give Kiefer your seed, no matter how much he begs for it.

Give all seed to your big big sis

Give me the seeds, Arus.

If someone were to play DQ8 for the first time, it should be on PS2, right? Are there any mods they should add? I know the 3DS version had some game balance adjustments.

>>538650910
Maribel... maybe you've had enough...

>>538652763
The 3DS version's "balance adjustments" mostly make it worse and too easy. The benefits of the 3DS version are two new party members, visible encounters on the overworld and menus that weren't uglified in localization.

>>538654071
Someone here once messaged there's like a town or castle that's smoking that you're always supposed to see in the PS2 version, but in the 3DS version, the smoke isn't rendered?

>>538652763
You can try this remaster pack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dY7F9G9898
But I think the PS2 version with emulator speedup is a fine experience.

>>538654320
>messaged
mentioned. My brain is fried rn. My bad, felllas.

>>538654320
I don't remember that specific example but the 3DS version's graphics are definitely worse. It looks fine on a real 3DS screen but blown up it would definitely look worse. There are mods to get it up to snuff with the PS2 version in terms of textures and models but I don't know if they cover everything.

>>538652763
i'd say to wait until we know what they're apparently about to announce on friday, aka a port of DQ7. If it's the 3DS version (or based on the 3DS version at least) then i'd definitively just wait for them to do it with VII too

>>538653320
Imagine the marismell

>>538650910
Wait, that's not how you cast bang!

>>538632537
> post ending in 7
Oh my god. I can already smell her

>>538632537
Every Nintendo Direct I can remember has had at least one thing that got me losing my mind.
I'm hyped.

>>538680743
This one's an hour long too.

>>538683002
very
very
s____

>>538637252
don't say that

I'll take one hourglass big sis's gigaton hip drop please

I propose that Serena is the nicest-smelling, the anti-Maribel. She's like a rabbit, smells like fresh laundry all the time

Reminder that a fella from cobblestone said Serena was a "posh girl from Arboria" if you opted to live with her.

>>538738783
Serena's cute soft tummy...

>>538700501
sexy!

>>538736340
>She's like a rabbit
In how many ways?

>>538683817
i'd temper expectations in the sense that i'm expecting a game, maybe a mario game made for the 40th anniversary (or hell just them explaining every single thing they're doing for the anniversary), to hog like 30 minutes

>>538718039
Remember anons, always practice safe sex when fucking your cousin.

DQ7 REMAKE SOON?

>>538736340
The retarded tend to have poor hygiene, in the timeline where Ronnie dies she probably stinks because she doesn’t have anyone to wipe her flat ass.

>>538749265
Seems like such an odd choice. I+II HD is a little over a month away, and if this is even real, I can't imagine it as anything other than a desperate 3DS port to tide us over until they're ready to talk about XII.

>>538750057
idk about that video but i'm pretty sure the same game said previously that yes, it's gonna be the 3DS version just ported on PC and other modern platforms. I expect at best some new qol stuff but essentially the same exact game otherwise. If we're very lucky they upped the models fidelity so that they're less polygonal but i doubt it

>>538751014
>the same game
the same guy

>>538749265
Do we really need a a DQ7 remake?

>>538759016
me on the left

>>538771269
it's not a remake, they're just porting the 3DS version to other platforms

another year on dqg

oh shi is it birthday slime cake time again already

>>538771269
The older game that needs the most attention at the moment is ix. It's never been ported to anything at all.

So we’re definitely gonna do ‘/dqg/ sings Only Lonely Boy’ when I&II-HD releases, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-uffyJKR1o&pp=ygUWT25seSBsb25lbHkgYm95IHZvY2Fscw%3D%3D

>>538633407
Very nice, but let’s see Princess Gluttonella’s slop.

>>538787924
The world's not ready for curves of that caliber.

>>538778790
Happy anniversary, /dqg/. Hope for another year of shitposting while we wait for n*ws

i love you dqg

>>538800428
We love goo too *blurp*

>>538787149
Never heard this, very nice. I wouldn't be able to sing in Japanese with you though...

which difficulty mode should i pick for dragon quest 3 hd?

>>538804726
Dragon Quest

for some reason the dragon quest hd2d remake doesn't feel as good as the original

GBCkino undefeated

>>538801992
For me, it’s the Momoi Haruko (Princess of Cunnock) version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COF_tzcgrDI

>>538811364
bigger

is it possible to get two supreme ultra swords of light

>>538816868
The second one is called the Super Sword of Light

News soon

>>538814902
true

>>538792429
i'd very much like sakura wars PS4 being made multiplatform

>>538838953
bigger

>mario galaxy movie before dragon quest 12
>mario galaxy port again before dragon quest 12
>mario galaxy 2 port finally before dragon quest 12
>marketable rosalinas story book before dragon quest 12
>new yoshis story before dragon quest 12

>>538746954
>to hog like 30 minutes
i guess it was 20 minutes instead

if you fucking make dq7 switch 2 only....

here it is

IT'S REAL

>it's a full on remake
"insiders" are wrong as usual

WOW! BETTER THAN I EXPECTED

WHY 7 WHY 7 WHY

that looked so fucking ugly...

I'd prefer to re imagine the PS1 version

>>538846448
>>538846571
i liked it

Are you serious right now..
I miss Toriyama

>remake of a remake (just like 3!)
>9 still stuck on DS
>8 only got a port with some new content
>12 in dev hell forever

It's uncanny, but I wouldn't call it ugly. But that's probably what XII is going to look like.

>>538846906
What makes you think 12 isn't going to build on 11S?

>>538846906
>But that's probably what XII is going to look like.
not at all come on, this was made like this cause VII was always super-deformed

>>538846989
>>538847009
Meant the faces, not the top down view

>>538846906
i pray the fuck not i will not buy 12 if it looks like that

>>538845665
i don't think they said it's exclusive right? Plus i noticed at the top it said "footage from the switch 2 version", implying at least a switch 1 version i'm guessing

>i get to spend another quadrillion hours time travelling with smelly
at long last....

>>538847128
i got that, that's what i was referring to with "super-deformed"

>>538847174
can't wait to go back and forth between the same 2 places five times in a row

>>538846571
>>538846906
you guys are blind. that looks amazing. lifted from the artwork itself. re imagined instead of remake could mean major overhauls to gameplay and thats very likely what they will do with the zenithia games. im very happy and excited.

>>538847167
its on both but im not buying it lol its hideous and i love dq7, they fucked up

>>538847410
you WIRR change your mind once you get used to it

Maribel...home

>>538847368
Thank you Square Enix employee san

>>538847368
that art style should never be mixed with that much hyper realism bro and the faces are similar but slightly off, its uncanny valley to the level bravely default 2 was

Is that pokemon builders?

>>538847368
I would rather have a high res version of the 3DS remake with changes to combat and other stuff, this art style looks really ugly.

>>538847653
>>538847690
>>538847816
one day gamefreak will discover higher resolutions than 480p, but that day is not today

>>538847981
they somehow always find a way to make their games look unfinished

>>538847981
yeah it unironically looks worse than the fucking psvita version of builders 1

>>538848026
Please understand, 99% of development resources funneled towards that action game

Here it is

>>538848173
which also looks like shit (comparatevely at least)

>>538848173
but gamefreak-san, that one also looks awful

>>538848237
It doesn't look like shit but it WILL be shit.

this direct was actually awful

>>538848969
i just wish they'd keep "shit that is on other systems but also coming on switch" at reels instead of giving them full trailers as if they were world premieres

>>538848969
I got some more footage of MHStories 3 and that's all I really needed.
But yeah I fully understand that the DQ7 models look weird. It's like they tried to go half-chibi, half-not.

>>538849439
weird inbetween and the very detailed graphics did not help it. should have gone more storybook with it if you were going to try something

>>538849816
this shit should be illegal bro, looks like the pokemon remake movie

>>538850020
come, accept the stinkiness

>>538849816
In this edition, you can choose to kill the roamers before Kiefer leaves you

>DQVII remake
>it stinks

I guess they were trying the DQ Your Story movie style? But they failed, this looks awful.

>>538850159
the worst part is this type of art style is popular in japan. they like those ugly lupin and doremon films

This art direction sucks ass. Still gonna buy it though.
>>538850159
Home.
>No Kiefer
He's still leaving us...

>>538850159
>show everyone but Kiefer
Thanks for the spoiler Nintendo

https://press.na.square-enix.com/DRAGON-QUEST-VII-REIMAGINED-A-BOLD-NEW-REMAKE-OF-THE-RPG-CLASSIC-LAUNC
>DRAGON QUEST VII Reimagined builds on the beloved original game, which finds its colorful cast of characters unlocking a one-of-a-kind storyline across multiple islands, discovering the adventure piece by piece. The modern RPG features fresh visuals, refined gameplay and tightened pacing for a truly unforgettable experience.
>Hand-Crafted Aesthetic - The character designs, originally crafted by world-renowned manga artist Akira Toriyama, have been reimagined into a charming 3D art style using dolls actually created in the real world. Environments and dungeons are also brought to life with a unique hand-crafted, diorama-style aesthetic that vividly illustrates the beloved world of the DRAGON QUEST series.
>Thrilling Battle System - The turn-based battle system has been overhauled with significant changes to offer more dynamic and thrilling battles, including an updated vocation system that features a “Moonlighting” mechanic, allowing players to use two vocations at one, a “Let Loose” ability that can be activated when a character gets worked up, and a new "Monster Master" vocation that introduces the “Positive Reinforcement” vocational perk that summons powerful monsters to assault any enemy.
>Quality-of-Life Improvements - A host of quality-of-life improvements have been implemented in the game for a smooth experience, including a redesigned UI that will allow for easier access to information.

>let loose
Maribel going to be unleashing this limit break 24/7

>>538850858
this is not aesthetically appealing

>>538850858
> dolls actually created in the real world
I want to see those dolls.

>>538850858
basing them off of real life made dolls is cool in concept but the finished product is just so disappointing

uh oh stinky

If they're willing to remake 7 instead of just porting the 3DS version, does it mean we'll get a full 8 remake some day. In the style of 11 it would be cool.

You can no longer complain about hd2d

The director hints at gameplay changes?

>VII remake is real
Is now the time to officially be worried about XII?

>>538850858
>reimagined into a charming 3D art style using dolls
I was thinking Arus had a stop-motion puppet look going on.

>>538850858
>Akira Toriyama
But the person already passed away last year

that will be 70 dollars, anon.

>>538851731
>i don't like this and nobody else should either!!
now you know what people that don't like HD2D feel
t. i don't like hd2d

>>538851985
I think the worst part is how dead it looks. What's with modern games and hating color?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTTfUC4MUZs

>>538851015
pretty big actually

>>538852428
>real life doll is even uglier
impressive

>>538852428
They're cute, I want them.

What do you call this new art style
I hate it..

i think it looks good

>>538851985
>

>>538852627
>>538852887
i hate this artstyle the most of toryama's 7 and 9
it's so ugly and unappealing

>>538852627
i wonder if this is a glimpse on XII's hud

You're telling me they had the resources to do a remake like this when they're supposed to be working on XII?

>>538853108
imagine if they just shaded the game like this? or like 9s opening cinematic, imagine how much better it would have looked without the western noses and lips

I love DQ7 and this looks a little ugly but I’ll definitely play it. Really thought them revamping the vocation system would be too much to ask for but I’m really excited for that. Looks like it’s going to be DQXI style turns instead of rounds as well, judging from the in battle portraits being aligned differently (like they were in XI). Possibility the story is “reimagined” in a dumb way but I doubt they’ll lose the appeal of the core vignettes. Overall I’m pleased and surprised.

>>538853482
Remake is significantly easier than making a new game
We are living in a remake era

>wake up
>find out marismellers won

>>538851731
I'll 100% take this over HD2D, sorry.

>>538853717
this, though i still don't like the top down view. I want to see the details fuck, let me lower that camera

>>538849816
Oh God, the character models…

The art in 3DS version is literally perfect
I'm sorry but this isn't it bud

>>538853710
That always happens on days that end with y.

This is the exact kind of remake I was expecting for FFIX.

>>538854029
if you think that's bad then you must hate HD2D too

>>538851498
this one is a nice surprise i was sure 6 was the first with uderwater levels but had to check just to make sure.

Reimagined means major story changes, doesn’t it? Bet they connect it to the Erdrick (formerly Roto) trilogy somehow.

>>538853536
>Possibility the story is “reimagined” in a dumb way
The Greenthumb Gardens scenario has been expanded with even more stupidity and cuckoldry. Please enjoy!

>>538854362
given they're only ever mentioning the playstation original as a point of comparison i'd say it's pretty much what they already did in the 3DS version, sounds dumb but again they're going like "in this remake of the 2000 playstation game we streamlined the plot" so idk that's what it feels like to me

>>538852120
This is kind of the problem. I like the idea of the puppet/diorama designs. And the real Arus puppet looks pretty nice. But if it had more stylized lighting instead of Video Game Blue Skies Green Grass lighting and felt a little more textured than it would be good.

>>538854154
certainly looks better than that
>>538854405
>colors pop more
>no black skybox
>torches flames are more dynamic and fuller of life

>>538854382
Horii literally started the affair with the woman he left his wife for during the development of this game. The cuckoldry is baked in.

>>538854840
>certainly looks better than that
says you

All modern dragon quest remakes are ugly. Long live V PS2

I liked it

>>538854339
It will be new to II. Nips are theorizing that VII might connect to the end of I+II

>>538855386
me too

It looks like those dq movies...

Is the remake of 3 good? Are there a lot of changes?

Well, at least it doesn't look as bad as the 3DS remake.

>>538855747
Yes. Infinite inventory space and the new class are the big ones

>>538855898
3DS looks better

>>538855747
Meh. The most soulless version of DQ3.
Play the GBC version or the SNES version instead

>>538856078
This is a controversial statement. In the 3DS version, the camera is positioned too close to the characters

I thought both builders games were ugly and thought 11 was right on the line of uncanny but didn’t quite pass it, if im being honest. So im kinda use to not liking the art directions they go with.

>>538852428
Interesting

>>538856304
I agree it’s not perfect but it at least was very colorful and felt more inline with how previous dragon quests looked. The new one is far too much of a jump for me

I pressed upgrade on the Arboria twins

>>538856442
If there’s a Draconian difficulty and this means you have to make genuine choices regarding builds and don’t just have access to everything after learning it and oomph+knuckle sandwich your way through every boss like in the 3DS version then I will be very happy.

>>538857154
>Switch 1 but not PS4
They love doing that with Dragon Quest.

How well does 3DS 7 run on emulator anons? I kinda want to beat it before this new version comes out.

>>538857154
Ship in a bottle is tempting

>>538857460
sony wants to get rid of the PS4 so they can hope to actually sell PS5s (it won't happen, even more so with every jewish price increase)

Smelly bros? How are you feeling?

>>538857460
>>538857771

>>538857771
if i ever upgrade my ps4, is gonna be with the new psp/ps vita.

>>538856427
I think Builders are ugly too despite liking the games. PS4 11 was quite pretty to me but I'm a bigger fan of the 3DS style. Wish they kept using it for lower budget games and remakes instead of HD2D (which I like, but only for actual team asano games instead of random remakes) and the cheap looking DQM3/Treasures style. 7 is the first DQ game in a while I actually like the look of.

>>538857154
>Erik is Ireburn's most trusted ally that sticks with him through the game despite only knowing him for a few months at most
>Kiefer is a slut who leaves his childhood friends for pussy

They look kind of not great in the trailer, but I actually like these renders quite a bit. They're cute.

so we all agree this is 5 yest?

>>538852428
cute. reminds me of dark crystal puppets.

But why not just keep the classic Toriyama style? It's not like they haven't been able to imitate it.

Finally might actually play 7

>>538859442
Or old kiefer rejoining the party?
>>538860687
For what, the 3d models?

>>538858240
11 3ds is cute. I’m glad you like 7s style but this is just another in a long line of games i think are pretty ugly.

>>538850159
I don't know why, but this version of Aishe reminds me of Anri Okita

>>538859323
Yeah, you can see what they’re going for better here. Too bad the gameplay looks like it won’t capture it quite as well. I know I shouldn’t be surprised but the people who have never actually played DQ, or maybe played DQ8 to get the FF12 demo disc in 2004, screeching about how it’s “Pixar style” are really annoying. Looking forward to when they lose interest.

>>538862349
Looks like James and the Giant Peach (derogatory) to me

I don't understand why they ever stepped away from the style of the 8-era games. Even Heroes and XI don't look as good. I'm not even a huge fan of 8 but it looked fantastic and the spinoffs based on that style were great too

BIG WIN
not a fan of the modern™ UE menus though

>>538863315
when mobile games look better than full price releases

>>538863404
That's Monster Battle Road Victory, a Wii game.

>>538862982
Pretty much agree. DQV PS2 or DQ8 are the directions we should have continued down. The Dr Slump PS1 game also would have been a good direction to continue down.

>>538863576
5 PS2 doesn't really look like that and isn't what I'm talking about

>>538863490
when 15 year old arcade ports look better than modern releases

>>538863726
Nigga im saying we should have went with the style of one or the other when making new games not that they are the same

>>538859442
I thought it be that pirate dude that was Arus' father?

>>538863938
And I'm saying I like the style of 8 and don't like the style of 5 PS2

I have no idea why they are doing a 3rd 7 remake and it looks like dogshit too.

imagine if a Chrono Trigger remake looked like this

>>538864090
Why didn’t they just use the art style the FF7 mobile game has?

>>538864090
Square Enix really hired that man

so that 3DS exclusive character does return. and will there be voice acting?

https://youtu.be/3c8xcYHboPs?t=79

>vii of all possible games gets remade
>it looks ugly as fuck
the biggest monkey paw of all time

>>538864090
soul

If they were gonna be pussies and remake a remake, they should have just done 8 so people dont have to choose between extra content of 3ds or better graphics of ps2 anymore.

But everything about this screams low budget sqeenix bullshit so no.

>>538864090
Reminds me of Diablo.

>>538867006
makes no sense making 8 first, just like they went at it on 3DS

>>538867006
A Zodiac Age tier remaster of VIII surely wouldn't have cost more than this

>>538867689
Where is this from?

>>538867689
they should make Jacquline a member. how ironic that my wishes or predictions came true days ago with both DQVII and FE getting another 3H setting.

>>538867689
:^)

>>538868057
SE's newsletter

>>538867006
Low budget?

XIIbros...
XII was totally gonna play like this right? Then when XVI and Rebirth both underperformed they realized what an enormous mistake they have made so they had to remake the entire game from scratch to make it a real DQ game. That's why it's taking so long, right?

>>538868518
anon mad they didn't do it like he wanted them to

>>538869016
very likely, but i both don't think it was going to be like that and i also think it's XVI specifically that made them rethink their approach, cause XVI's fails are the same pitfalls XII could fall into given the "it's a more mature story" whatever (which is they same shit they went for with XVI).
And in both cases it's something born out of wanting to make the games more accessible, aka try to get dudebros to buy them (spoiler: they never will no matter how you change them), for which we of course can blame retarded investors who only care about maximizing profits and will never accept that niches and genres exist for a reason, they just want all the money for everyone ever

tldr ye XII is 100% going through lots of trial and error, and i'd say 1+2 hd2d's interview about Horii not wanting to budge from I being a single character game makes me think they know what has to not change

>>538864090
Bros? BROS???

>>538870224
remake haters???

>>538870657
1. what do you expect from /v/
2. what do you expect when they're consistently censoring the games now

>>538869016
I wouldn't be upset if they were doing exactly this and instead choose to recycle it as a spinoff, like they did with Treasures & Dark Prince.
>>538870657
Please, for your own mental well being, do not engage with /v/ in anything regarding this series.

>>538870873
same, as long as it's not a mainline game they can do whatever they want. Like i'd very much play a soulslike DQ game, just like i played both builders even though i don't like minecraft
also
>do not engage with /v/
that's enough said

>>538652763
The main benefits of the 3DS version are the extra party members and instant alchemy pot crafting instead of that being a postgame bonus.
I don't agree with the anon that said they made the game too easy cause they only added a heal on level up, they made the final boss harder (more physical attacks instead of his weak ass spells) and they nerfed a few attacks on the player side that were just way fucking better than anything else you could use your turns on. Not like shit was hard in the first place but you aren't OHKOing midgame bosses with Twin Dragon Lash anymore.

>>538856442
dual vocation make me diamonds for some reason

>>538870224
and so does this, i know the reason though

>>538850858
>Thrilling Battle System
They removed the monster jobs, so I don't really care. Those were fun to mess around with.

>>538871739
>>538652763
Oh and that the new party members are both really fucking late so for like 70% of the game it's largely the same as the PS2 version but with shittier visuals

>>538872247
there's save bonuses with 1+2, having the save for one game unlocks the bonus in the other and viceversa
it's just an agility ring though so

Isn't weird how early they announced they Erdrick trilogy remake (like 3 years for III, 1.5 years for I+II) compared to VII reimagined (5 months)? Who even did this with all the people on the trilogy and XII?

>>538872247
Eighto chiquito

Why is this thread going so fast?

I like the artstyle, I think it's cute...
They're probably targeting a female audience.

>>538872562
they were clearly working on all of this shit (and more) at the same time, but i guess that far back the only ones they were sure were gonna happen were just XII and 3, which they announced simply cause it was the 35th anniversary year
i don't think any of these have been outsourced though, unless VIIRe is and missed it
and i mean doing remakes means most of the work has already been done if you think about it, it's much harder to make a game from scratch cause you have to design everything and as we know they decided XII has to change shit so that's even more time and work to see what can work and what doesn't

>>538872562
Probably farmed out to a smaller dev like they used to do for the remakes.
>>538851107
They made Arus' face look fat but the others look alright
Maybe he'll look less derpy in the actual Hero job costume later

Boy 4 remakes before we get a new game. I love remake slop culture!

>>538873250
After DQ12 is finally released, remakes and spin-offs will literally be all we get for Dragon Quest.

I see the strategy. SE's going to see which remake aesthetic people like more before finally tackling IV-VI.
>>538873250
4 remakes so far

https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/dragon-quest-vii-reimagined
>The world of DRAGON QUEST VII Reimagined is full of iconic monsters. Don’t be distracted by their appealing new designs - these creatures can do some serious damage if not dealt with promptly.
>Fortunately, your party are more than up to the task. Enemies are visible on the field - touch one, and you’ll start a battle… unless it’s weaker than you. If that’s the case, pre-emptively strike it and you’ll defeat it there and then, which keeps the adventure moving at a brisk pace.
>Combat is turn-based - you issue commands to your party and they execute them. A brand new feature of this game is the ability to Moonlight – essentially, each member of the team can now equip up to two Vocations!
>These Vocations determine what abilities and spells they have access to in battle, and the new Moonlighting feature means you have more options in battle than ever before!
>Each of these vocations also features a special Vocational Perk. These perks range from powerful attacks to buffs for your allies - and although they can only be used when a character is ‘worked up’ they can change the tide of battle in an instant!
>For example - the Monster Master vocation (new for this version of the game), features the ‘Positive Reinforcement’ perk, which summons powerful monsters to attack your foes!
>There are plenty of quality-of-life features to make battles fun and convenient too. As well as automatically defeating weaker foes, you can also set tactics for your protagonist and allies, so they battle to a particular strategy without the need for direct command. You can also speed up fights to make them fly by!

>>538873072
news

>>538873417
I'm really surprised they went for 7 before the others cause of the size of the game
That and with all the assets they already have from 1-3 they barely need new environmental assets for 4-6

>>538873250
Square Enix straight up said that you're going to get mostly remakes and remasters for the next 3 years
DQ12 Never Ever

>>538873479
Monster vocations were confirmed to be removed, though.

>>538873479
>two vocations at once
I hope they make the game harder to balance for this.

>>538873623
Pretty sure they mean this instead of just getting enemy skills/resistances directly

>>538873775
Two jobs is less skills than you'd get before
And its hard to be easier than obliterating every random encounter past when you get jobs with Scorch and Thin Air

>>538873582
They said the story has been streamlined, so presumably it's being cut down to a brisk 50 to 70 hours.
Also they just did a loose trilogy and are probably interested in testing the waters before jumping back in with another, much larger set of games.

>>538872247
Unlike Ireburn, Aruster looks better like this

>>538873993
Wouldn't you get job points for both of the vocations at the same time at the same rate?

>>538874894
Both jobs in the screenshots have progress bars so probably
I would assume they'd reduce the grind again like the last remake, although the game was so fucking long you didn't even really have a problem with the later party members getting some levels in like 6's jobs did.

BROS! I saw the Direct and it was the exact announcement I was hoping for!
I never got to beat VII growing up. I was a poorfag who didn't have a Playstation, but one of my friends did and she'd rent lots of cool rpgs and I'd go over on the afternoons and play 'em. One time she rented VII and I got to play a bit of the start. I don't remember how far I got that day, but I never forgot the experience. It seemed strange compared to I&II on GBC, being on some little island and I don't think I even got to the part where you're finally fighting stuff.
But now, I'll finally be able to play this super long game you guys are always talkin' about.

>>538847368
I agree, this is easily the most beautiful DQ to date.

>>538875270
>be able
You could have emulated it anytime

>>538875270
They're cutting a lot of content from this one to make it shorter for the tiktok generation, so it isn't the same game.

>>538850858
>and tightened pacing
Interesting

>>538850858
>The character designs, originally crafted by world-renowned manga artist Akira Toriyama, have been reimagined into a charming 3D art style using dolls actually created in the real world. Environments and dungeons are also brought to life with a unique hand-crafted, diorama-style aesthetic that vividly illustrates the beloved world of the DRAGON QUEST series.
Kino
>changed pacing
>changed battles
>"QoL"
Ew

I honestly dont even like the original art style of 7, the colors aren’t that vibrant in the original and the sprites always looked fat to me. I thought 5 and 6 looked better.

>>538873103
Baking anon..?

>>538876589
Maybe they'll move the job system earlier in the game and you get the second jobs unlocked at Alltrades

>PR guy for SE
>shits on the original game
Cool. Not buying.

everyone is just always overtly negative because they are over the age of 30 and posting on 4chan instead of having a family and legacy

>>538877335
square enix and bamco have so much in common

>>538877335
I don't even like 7 that much but this type of PR speak makes my skin crawl

>>538877426
im under 30 and i have low expectations but se always somehow shock me with the shit they do still

>>538849816
>>538850159
>>538859323
Eww… It reminds me of the designs from Dragon Quest: Your Story or that Mewtwo movie from the same year, but the in-game characters actually don’t look that bad. Guess it’s just a matter of getting used to it. At least it’s not that 2D-HD stuff, which I can’t stand. Maribel looks cute though, and that’s what matters.

how many GB was the 3DS version for VII? the new version has 4.9 GB.

>>538878587
Under 2 GB
Not many 3DS games went for the bigger cartridge sizes

>>538878428
Kiefer in the back itching to leave the party forever

I mean, what can they even streamline in a remake at this point? The 3DS version didn't remove any story content. The only real tedium they can realistically cut is having to go to the Abbey to change vocations by making it a menu command. I guess the tablet fragments could just be handed to you unceremoniously instead of having to explore for them, but finding them was always so easy since the game is so linear (any fragments you're missing are almost undoubtedly in the most recent island you cleared). It's as easy as any other DQ entry (just noticeably longer), so I have no idea where this meme of it being impossible to play comes from.

>>538879017
as others said they're comparing the remake to the playstation original, not the 3DS remake, so i also think that's what they mean when talking about streamlining and whatnot: they just did what they already did in the 3DS version. Hell, i'm sure the 3DS version is actually running under the hood here, or at least it's what this remake has been directly built upon

>>538879017
It's very streamlined already, that's my biggest problem with it. It's a straight line from start to finish, the line is just really long.
There's definitely room for improvement, but it's hard to imagine that potential being realized if the objective is to make it accessible for everyone™ and add "QoL" instead of improving on what it was going for.

>>538878428
The prerendered scenes in 11 looked way different from the actual game too, obviously its not even the same models.
>>538879017
All anyone ever talks about with 7 is how long it is and that eventually makes its way back to the publisher.
The tablet scavenger hunt is probably the biggest place to chop time off and the simplest way to do that would just be to reduce the number of pieces to go find or an option for a big fucking arrow pointing to them. The 3DS version already added a tablet detector thing.

>>538878587
no way it's just 5 GB

Actually, wouldn't voiced cutscenes just make DQVII even longer? Listening to characters talk takes more time then just reading textboxes.

>>538880873
If its only main story scenes that's not that much
If they voiced every NPC they'd be fucking insane.

I got a question about 3DS VII, did they keep battle party chat in that or was it cut?
Being able to talk to party members mid-fight and see their reactions to the current situation was really cool, like how they would be in shock and mourn the death of party members and stuff. It'd be a shame if the new remake cuts that, but if 3DS kept it, it gives me hope.

>>538881294
Every NPC dialogue and every party chat line fully voiced. Party chat autoplays and is unstoppable and un-muteable. You WILL hear what Maribel has to say.

Only main cutscenes voiced. Party chat and other dialogue voiced with Banjo-Kazooie-style grunts. Maribel makes fart sounds.

>>538882614
Battle chat was cut on 3DS.

>>538882614
It was cut. Talking in battle was only ever in the PS1 version. It was VERY poorly translated in Dragon Warrior VII, though. Like, it was barely proofread, and it was clearly translated completely out of context. (Fun fact: If you use the Talk command three times in a row, your entire party's turns are skipped and the enemies get a free round.)

>>538883060
>Fun fact
Yeah that was a cool part of it too. Really felt immersive as if I was truly wasting time talking instead of fighting.

Really sucks that it got removed though. VII had the best party chat of any game, I don't get why they would toss any part of it.

>>538882930
>Maribel makes fart sounds.
im fine with this

It looks hella ugly.

So now that old man keifer is going to show up in DQ7 Reimagined, what will his role be

>>538884272
To tell the player all about his exciting adventures in the DQ11 Tickington quests

>>538870657
for whataver reason the IDF latched unto DQ and is scouting all discussion of the series online to recruit goylems. just ignore them.

>>538884059
Pretty much. The renders are a bit better but in gameplay and cutscenes its just ehhhh

>>538865532
Its pretty much confirmed, you can hear Kiefer voice actor from DQ Rivals speaking during the intro and the 1-2-3 remakes does have voice acting

This angers the 11fag

>>538886578
im shitting my pants right now

>>538865532
You mean Jacq? She was in the original game but was never a full party member. At most, she helps out on her own during the final boss fight in the Abbey.

>>538884272
to tell the player he was originally slated to be evil, but became turtle hermit.

>>538886578
the issue is the actual game itself looks so much worse than the renders

>>538884272
Tell you to play Caravan Heart available soon at Switch 2™

>>538886578
I don't even think it looks that bad but I can only see this as the result of asking AI to pixar-ize the original art

>>538887290
They used dolls actually

REMINDER
>Dragon Quest creator Yuji Horii has said players will encounter a "new discovery" if they play through the Dragon Quest HD-2D Remake trilogy in chronological order.

>Caravan Heart connects DQ7 to 2
>DQ7's manga connects it to Emblem of Roto
Time to revise your fucking timeline

Hmmmmm

>>538886578
Hero's face seems a little off but I assume that's a concession with the 3D model so he doesn't look like shit in profile

>>538886578
>>538887334

>>538875870
Yeah, that's true. I guess I'm just the laziest motherfucker I know.
>>538876585
That was my concern when I saw they were advertising it as more streamlined and "tightened" up. I imagine they're scared of VII's reputation for being long and boring. Hopefully it's just referring to how battles will be much quicker with the speedup function and being able to skip weaker monsters on the overworld. It would suck to wait all this time only to get a version with less content, when the Erdrick trilogy remakes had extra stuff added.

>>538876585
I really don't get the wave of newfags going like this when it's obviously just reusing the 3DS changes.

>>538877335
>a completely reworked story
Nevermind, that sounds horrible. This gaijin asshole makes it sound like a completely different game.

>>538850858
This battle scene looks okay and the visible equipment is nice but we wont be able to cosplay anymore or what?

>accurately adapt toriyamas worst art style
>its ugly
shocker

>Nintendo throwing around patents to shut down Palworld
>meanwhile makes a game that looks like a damn-near carbon copy of DQBuilders
I'm tired

>>538888719
this was his worst era of art actually

>>538888674
maybe you can choose outfits freely, after all theres 2 preorder dlcs that give characters XI and VIII outfits

>>538889201
The kanzenbans were the same era as DQ7, around 2002~

>>538887334
>>538887772
I know, it's just what comes to mind.

>>538889201
>>538890019
Also, this is one of my favourite eras for Toriyama in regards to his chibi art

>>538891414
The simpler detailing, lined and shading make it work

>>538877335
>long games bad
Then don't buy them and let those who enjoy long games continue enjoying them...? I hate that there are retards genuinely happy with games being shorter than they should be especially with how much they expect you to pay

>>538892402
Look at the game in question again, and then remember the last time it was remade

>>538892402
I mean, given the literal number 1 complaint about 7 is it's length, I don't think they're exactly wrong in trying to trim it down a little.
The real issue would be with HOW they do it, and by how much.

Does every dq really need to be connected? Do we really have to change the timeline and canon so every game ties into one another?

>>538892709
Yes, so we can sell a book about it that everyone hates

>they scanned dolls to create the 3D models
>they aren't going to make dolls for all the class costumes, so those got cut
Please don't be true.

Looking at the trailer again I don't think it looks that bad anymore. It's just the washed colors that you can probably easily fix with reshade on pc.

>>538893332
It's just different outfits. They already announced DLC outfits anyways, so vocation outfits are probably in.

i just want the dq1 and 2 remakes already

>>538893332
i doubt they'd need to make dolls for each costume, and even then it's costumes they don't need a whole ass different doll simply cause it has a new outfit

>>538893343
colors looks fine to me, but i did spent a good few weeks tinkering with my monitor after i finally realized that i had my colors all kinds of fucked up after all that i ended up realizing the best setting was resetting everything, leaving the default options besides tinkering a bit with the color temperature and then slightly increase the gamma on my pc

>>538893959
same

>>538892682
Even the 3ds version had a high encounter rate in dungeons since hallways were so narrow you couldn't really avoid them like in 8's 3ds version
They could cut the encounter spawnrate by like 20% and it'd shave hours off of the game

Why did they skip these fellas? It was their turn!

>>538896795
Of all the games in the series this is the one I actually wouldn't mind being 'reimagined' to some degree, even though I like it more than VII

Just heard the news. Honestly surprised it's not just a remaster of 3DS. Dragon Quest is going brr lately with the remakes, goddamn.

I like the class changes, feels like a good middle ground between the PS1 bullshit and the 3DS limitations, especially if they bring hybrid skills back. "Streamlining" the story sounds awful though, what 7 needs is more character stuff and a better payoff at the end, not LESS story.

wasn't there a guy spamming how there'd be a DQ7 remake and a new musou before DQ12

I'm not sure how I feel about nu-nu-DQ7 but I was reminded of the Diamond & Pearl remakes yesterday so my ability to gauge these things is way out of whack right now.
>>538854029
I've always thought of the color crystal dungeon as one of the lamest in the series so it's funny that they keep drawing attention to it.

>>538886781
He means this guy.

My hard drive won't be able to handle all this Maribel art

The collection grows.

>>538907210
builders 1 isnt on steam?

>>538889201
>>538890019
>Sand Land era
>worst
he gave up (finally) on drawing stuff he didn't care about
his old men and machines were all 10/10 during that period

>>538907210
>subtle Y7
kek

>>538907210
>>538907503
Builders 1 is on steam actually

wait it’s the 3rd birthday devs?

This thread stinks

>>538908808
Breathe deep

>>538908808
It's very very sexy, you mean.

>>538909695
The original release really could have benefitted from a smaller font.

>>538898378
> Dragon Quest is going brr lately with the remakes, goddamn.
That alone shows how in deep shit XII development is

>>538910404
>That alone shows how in deep shit XII development is
DQVIIR probably started development back in 2022, so it likely has little to do with XII's development.
It launching in February is also suspect, since DQ releases like to target the Fall season.

If the humans are this ugly imagine how Orgodemir is going to look.

>>538864090
I unironically prefer this over any of that HD2D stuff

>>538911121
Being ugly/uncanny valley will work in his favor, dolls are perfect for horror.

I feel like this remake would look better with some dark lines around the characters like the Sandland game

>The first HD-2D game to actually look good comes out
>The dicksucking suddenly stops
???

>>538912816
yep and less realistic textures

>>538907503
I got it on Switch way before it hit Steam. I was thinking of grabbing it last steam sale but I forgot. Maybe next time.

I don’t like pep

I like Popp

>>538632278 (OP)
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>>538918370
we only had one female poster in this general and that was food anon. she left a year ago because the mexicans were being transphobic.

>>538918734
didnt she post a valentines thing this year?

>>538910915
>DQVIIR probably started development back in 2022
You just made me realize we now have our own VIIR/7R. Funny how that goes.

so should i just wait for this reimagined version of DQ7 or could i commit to the 3ds version.

>>538922752
In the time it will take DQ7R to release, you could play PSX and 3DS

>>538897509
6 needs the gameplay rework the most I think. Carver just shits on the entire game from beginning to end and then the ultra hyped up Terry joins with 1/5th of a job leveled three hours away from the end of the game.

>>538922752
This one is advertised to be a lot more streamlined than the previous versions, depending on if that's appealing or unappealing to you

>>538922752
You could still finish the 3DS version before this one is out if you wanted to play it already. At most I could see them trying to rebalance the game to not fall apart to Knuckle Sandwich spam.

>>538922752
Unlike most DQ remakes I would recommend the PS1 version over the 3DS version unless you absolutely have to have a modern-style localization.
>>538923307
It could benefit from some updates but I still think VII is far worse than VI in terms of gameplay in just about every way. VI's problems aren't one specific thing so much, it's just a bit sloppy all over.

>>538925459
7 'fixed' 6's job system by being 4x longer but not actually changing anything about the job system

>>538925717
It gave you less characters to try out the jobs on and a tiny number of optimal 'ultimate' jobs, which sucks most of the fun out of the system. At least in VI you could finish the game with a party of 8 characters with mostly different vocations.

>>538927428
Original 6 and 7's job systems are largely the same, 7 is just longer so the amount of fights needed to level the jobs isn't so out of proportion with the game's actual length.
The biggest problem with 6 is that unless you get hopelessly lost trying to find the next progress trigger, the number of battles to even get one second tier job done on the starting party is way above the amount of fights you're likely to do. So if you tried some pair of jobs that doesn't actually get a combined upgrade on someone they're just out of luck
Final jobs added in 7 are a functional victory lap besides raw stats in the original since the best shit is on the base jobs and Pirate which already make the game piss easy past Alltrades, the same way Paladin gives you the only move you'll ever actually need in 6.

>>538922752
3ds

1 - hd2d remake
2 - hd2d remake
3 - hd2d remake
4 - eventual hd2d remake
5 - eventual hd2d remake
6 - eventual hd2d remake
7 - 3d remake
8 - eventual 3d remake
9 - inexplicably never gets remade
10 - westerners get told to mind their own business yet again
11 - stays as is for now
12 - eventually comes out

- Heroes 3 (a refresh with less characters than Heroes 1)
- DQM x Pokemon (inexplicably better than DQM3 or any main Pokemon game in 15 years)
- Torneko's Mystery Dungeon Collection (doesn't contain Young Yangus, there will never be an actual new one)
- DQ Kart (gacha)
- Builders 3 (generally dismissed as a knockoff of that Pokemon one)
- Jade action game spinoff that's just an excuse to use the original DQXII battle system in something
- DQ MOBA

>>538843925
she is becoming too powerful...

>>538849816
worst cast line up in the series

>>538928216
A lot of the people saying the remake looks like Your Story have to be genuinely blind.

Just

>>538936302
>>538936147
shes in your walls or your ceiling, watching you masturbate

>>538936147
Looking forward to this FF9 remake

So we’re all agreed the cloaked dude in the trailer is middle-aged Kiefer, right?

as a longtime fan, please make dq12 available on switch, switch 2, ps4, ps5, xbox 1, xbox s, and pc.

i want to see the series take off in the west and this will certainly help it to do so.

but don't give in to western censorship bullshit and stay true to the vision; i feel if the cartoony art were retained in its initial western run as dragon warrior, it would have done much better as people would have recognized toriyama's artstyle at the same time they were learning about dragon ball.

also do you think they're going retcon god as le numen again or the (god forbid) goddess like they did in 3 hd2d

>>538944905
>but don't give in to western censorship bullshit
sorry anon, but Squeenix has fully drank that koolaid
look no further than 3HD2D female warrior or Aira in the 7 remake
and yeah, they will definitely try to tone down the religious themes to avoid potential drama

I have never played a Dragon Quest game, but I will be buying DQ7R for this beauty. That is all.

how exactly did they 3D print those dolls? and as for vocations, the characters wont change costumes? maybe we'll get more in game costumes?

>>538945684
considering the current zeitgeist and the massive backlash against fedora tipping, feminism, and wokeshit, keeping those themes might help the series reach new heights in the west,

especially if advertised as such

>>538946210
i'll still be getting 1+2HD2D anyway, it doesnt look like it has any of that

>>538946652
we shall see
3hd2d was great except they quite literally changed god to goddess and added stupid ambiguous they/them singular pronous

QRD?

Weird ask here but can one of you guys do a repack of DQX offline for steam please? It's a pain in the ass to get and the translation for it is basically complete. Thanks

>>538880026
>The tablet scavenger hunt is probably the biggest place to chop time off
But re-exploring to see what changed was one of the best parts :(

>>538912816
then you'd have autists screeching "nooo muh realistic UE backgrounds with celshaded characters nooooooo i literally have to claw my eyes out!!!"
you can't please everyone

>Dolls render
Wait a fucking minute.
It’s a fantasian neo dimension style.

IXbros... It's never coming is it?

>>538947149
>3hd2d was great except they quite literally changed god to goddess
This has been a change that's existed for over 20 years now.
It makes sense for III and the games connected to it though since Rubiss is female.

I swear I stepped into an alternate universe, but I would've thought the effort for VII Reimagined would go towards FF9. Feels like SE was hyping up the latter only to bring out the former.

>>538963356
i think it's happening too, and i wouldn't be surprised if both DQVII and FFIX are remade in the same "reimagined" way. Hell i can see SE just using this "reimagined" thing for a bunch more games like xenogears

>>538963906
FFIX I could see, but Xenogears would look horrible with doll models like this, I think they'd just go for realism like they did with FFVII.

>>538965523
to be fair it could evolve and change from game to game, like HD2D did. But my point wasn't on the artstyle but on the "it's a remake but still mostly the same game" template, especially compared to FFVIIremake that isn't like this

Now that the dust has settled, these ugly models have started to grow on me, lads.

>>538975947
I like the renders but not the models in actual gameplay. Also the view is too far away for how small the models are

>>538975947
They're soulful.

>>538946024
It’s interesting what people find attractive

>>538945684
you know thats because of the rating board in japan and not the west right? you know the warrior has been censored in japanese only releases too for like 15 years right?

>>538977687
japan is a g7 nation, subservient to the west for protection against china
this interview happened last year and it was all the outrage when this game's artwork was revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_tD58w6io
cease your gaslighting

>>538978236
>this interview happened last year and it was all the outrage when this game's artwork was revealed
The censored design predates the remake by over a decade and was primarily used in Japan only titles. It's a CERO thing.

>>538947149
>it's the rubiss schizo
Please kill yourself. Genuinely kill yourself.

>>538978236
the remakes design is arguably less censored than some of the jp only releases brother

>>538975947
cause they're not ugly at all duh

>>538977390
>Also the view is too far away for how small the models are
this is true but i'm also biased as i just hate top down/isometric views. Like of course it's fine, if not needed, in some games but if a game where you control a single walking character around an environment then yeah it sucks

>>538979750
I like top down but the view didn’t even look this far away in the og.

>>538977528
Pinocchius

>>538979750
>cause they're not ugly at all

Anyone else think the logo feels stretched?

>>538983963
the "reimagined" text yeah

>>538983963
Probably because VII's logo is fairly unique and just looks kind of odd in composition. The additional word adds another line to the whole thing that makes the big visual piece look even more odd considering the boat appears off center, and thus it makes the logo look like it doesn't quite 'fit'.

>>538977528
I can’t masturbate to this.

in honor of 7make slopanon should post some fat maribels

>>538936810
Like one anon said yesterday, I think it does suit an FFIX remake pretty well.

i like that they kept the scale of the original to make buildings feel large and characters small

>>539000897
The issue is the characters pop more from far away in the original

>>539000897
i'm getting flashbacks from that temple with old man crispin. also what would have caused Kiefer evil in the original draft?

>>539000897
if they're not putting in a toggle to zoom the camera i know mods will

I've only played dq3HD, 4, 11 and 10. (haven't played 4 in years so I really don't remember it).
Anyways I was talking to my friend who is obsessed with DQ, and he said people find 6 to be mid (he thinks it's peak), and I got convinced to play because I think the cast looks cool.
ANYWAYS, this game has fucking HANDS early. I'm literally only at the start, at Lifecod, but I'm basically just bashing my head over and over again at the enemies alone, trying to level up since it seems somewhat impossible to actually progress properly without just dying over and over. Thank gosh that dying doesn't reset your save, and you just get teleported to the church.
For reference, I'm playing the OG, on the Super Famicom. I'm guessing it's just an issue with the original.
I think it's neat so far. Very pretty, good music. The lightning and thunder at the start in the castle was somehow the best I've ever seen in a video game to this date?
I don't really have a question or anything. Just blogging about DQ6. I guess my question would be am I missing out not playing 5 (and replaying 4)? Apparently this is a trilogy just like 1-3.

>>539016252
>am I missing out not playing 5 (and replaying 4)?
In terms of VI's story, not really. It's a very distant prequel to IV, but the connections are pretty minor and don't have anything to do with VI's actual story. IV and V are a lot more closely connected, with VI it feels like a bonus that was thrown in for fun.
IV and V are great games on their own though, so definitely play them sometime if you want a fun RPG.

>>538962878
>>538978554

>>539019129
It's been Goddess and Rubiss longer than you've been alive

>>539019623
you...uh,
keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better

>>539020242
Please post proof to the opposite.

>>539020284
the burden of proof,
typically,
lies with the individual making a claim

>>539020598
This released 35 years ago and outright states Rubiss created the world of DQ1-3.

>>539020716
uh,
you weren't,
supposed to post that

>>539020716
where did it say rubiss was born as a fairy?

the answer is elvenham
so she couldn't have created the world into which she was born

but you would know that if you weren't a filthy casul angling for replacing god just because

Why do people say Maribel smells ? She looks cute

>>539023552
She's just fun to make fun of because she's a huge bitch.

>>539023552
A joke on how she has to transform into multiple monsters to obtain her coveted Magic Burst spell.

Stinky

>>538887772
>can't walk around with a hero, godhand, evilpriest, and a summoner anymore
BOO HISS

>>539025535
More specifically, the monster who teaches Magic Burst, the Gripevine, requires multiple other monsters to master to unlock. One of the attacks it also teaches is Fishy Fog, which is exactly what it smells like.

>>538931334
pretty sure zenith trilogy will use 7 as a template. unlike erdrick trilogy this are story heavy games with characters that benefit from rendered cutscenes.

personally i like rosevine better
the ps1 translation had some gems

>>539027326
It definitely won’t. This style was only because of how different 7s art was compared to the other mainline games. At most i could see a monsters and monsters 2 remake using the style.

Isn’t zenthian trilogy supposedly mentioned in 1&2 hd2d? That pretty much confirms those games will be hd2d too i feel

>>539027526
Fair. PS1 could have used a smaller font size, though.

>x
ZARAKIIMA

>Dragon Quest III Remake Announced
>do normalfag temperature check
>"These games look nice, I might play them!"
>nobody plays them

>Dragon Quest I&II Remake Announced
>do normalfag temperature check
>"These games look nice, I might play them!"
>nobody plays them

>Dragon Quest VII Remake Announced
>...

Honestly, I'm surprised how positive the normalfag reaction is to the art style, while on here everyone hates it, but It really does seem like every DQ game gets the same general interest and then nobody plays them.
Would be funny if VII ended up being the next XI, but even a condensed version of it would probably still be too episodic for most people.

LET'S FUCKING GO BROS

I like Maribel’s game’s remake’s visuals.

Do you think they’ll cut the incestuous lesbian romance between Aishe and Pwincess Lithette?

>while on here everyone hates it
No one said this

>>539047770
I don't remember that, and I'm 99% sure I talked to her with Aishe in my party.

I'm not sure how I feel overall but it definitely looks way better than DQM3.

I will NOT be buying the remake if the rumor about there being no appearance change with vocation change is true

I WILL be buying the remake if vocation costumes are cut but the VERY VERY SEXY camisole is in

>>539048917
Well, you can definitely change appearances since they've got those DQXI outfits. But yeah, the question is if they've got all the vocation ones.

How about... Vocation outfits are in BUT you only get them when you master a vocation, and act as costumes to equip whenever like the XI outfits.

>>539048612
I think the art style is better in M3 but the graphics are worse if that makes sense

>>539042187
I really don’t understand the appeal of the style outside of just being glad it’s not another HD2D release

>>539052307
DQM3 is definitely a compromised version of what they were going for because Switch was the main platform but it just plain looks bad anyway. The environments can be OK but I really dislike the character models. It's all very cheap.

>>539048492
You weren't paying attention. There's a little something called subtext, sweety.

>>539052907
All I remember is Lisette remarking that Aishe reminds her of Kiefer and bonding with her because of that. So I don't believe you, at least until I replay VII.

>>539056424
it's bullshit
some people cannot see bonding in any other context than sexual

sad, really

if I were to play only one dragon quest game to see if I liked the series which game should that be?

>>539059001
I would say IV but it's a little finicky, the worst localization-isms are front-loaded and you need a patched rom to restore a major feature. A great introduction to the series though, short and well-paced with a fun cast of characters.
If you prefer something more recent, XI is good and modern and has a generous demo. It's a bit vanilla even for DQ and slow to get going, but once it's in gear it's solid. Plays great too, though it's worth turning on hard mode.

>>539059001
ROCKET SLIME

It feels crazy to be in a /dqg/ with news

Last time we had any it was for the HD2D remakes, which let’s be honest, barely count.

7 is legitimately shocking. I would have guessed 4 or 5

>>539059001
impossible. even if the template is similar each game has very specific design goals that make it unique you may love one but hate another. try the ones that look fun and dont be afraid to drop it if you are not hooked. short fast paced games are 4 and 9, long slow games are 8 and 11.

how did they 3D print dolls. was it hard to recreate the character from scratch? what about costumes?

>>539067486
What do you mean how did they 3D print dolls, most dolls are 3D printed or molded in small pieces and put together afterwards. The clothes are just normal cloth doll clothes. They probably scanned the whole thing in to use as a base for the character modelers.

>>539050998
"thing you get/unlock when you don't need it anymore" is lame and games should really stop doing it

>>539046615
Mega raichu ( 2 forms ) was recently announced. 2 new psaros when?

>>539059001
Why do you like jrpgs?

>>539059591
The mobile version of DQ4 has Party Chat already restored. Personally, I feel going mobile for 4-6 is a passable alternative as they're all just the DS versions with slight rebalancing.

>>539019129
Rubiss has been consistently depicted as female in every appearance she's had, and in English we have two words for gods based on their gender, unlike the Japanese.
Only an ESL would be confused by this.

>>539059001
3

>>539059001
8 or 3
3 for classic gameplay
8 for a more standard "modern" jrpg

>>539085782
Excuse me, waiter. My tamago is smelling terrible, almost like a fish

>>539085782
*spits*

WAITEEEEERRRRR!!

>>539085782
egghead lol

Reminder this exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y07hPuRK4uI

>>539065307
When will Horii-san give us a fat Warrior-chan spinoff

>>539065307
4 and 9 are sluggish imo

just shade the game differently and it would look fine

It's an ugly game but it's OUR ugly game alright

I think they're just testing the waters with different stuff before they have to finally do a fully post-Toriyama game

>>539111365
The dolls are based on Toriyama's original art of the characters, why are you blind and retarded?

>>539111365
people keep saying this and they keep forgetting Toriyama only did designs, they have an army of copycats doing the actual art and have been for decades at this point. Now that Toriyama obviously can't do new designs they'll just keep doing new ones by themselves (something they likely were already doing, cause i don't think Toriyama did literally every single design in the games to begin with, much less with newer games) but still in that artstyle. Same with the music, even with Sugiyama dead they have other people (one of them iirc is his actual son) doing new music in the same style

It's pretty funny how HD2D and now this have revealed just how little people know about the series. It's especially funny when it's people who claim to be huge fans of the series getting such basic information wrong.

>>539112291
Where did I say they weren't? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>539111365
>>539112454
Yeah, this feels like a DBtard sentiment.
Toriyama had an entire studio of people who drew things in his style. I'd say over half of the art attributed to him wasn't even done by him from what I've seen on this board, and they copycats existed for decades for the express purpose of doing a majority of the art for projects like Dragon Quest.
I've seen a lot of people be unable to tell that the wedding CGs in DQXI are just not done by Toriyama even though I find it painfully obvious that they weren't.

>>539112454
>>539113674
You're reliving some argument you had in the past and not reading what I said. The art style in 7R is clearly different from usual, and at the very least we're going from Toriyama doing some amount of work to none. Why is it so crazy to think that those two things might be related, and that we could be seeing more variety in art style going forward?

>>539113674
it's just natural for franchises like this, especially for long running ones. It just builds up organically too, people that played a game in a series as a kid and then keep playing the games until they end up working on them, whether it's art or music or even story. I bet even Horii has both its already appointed successors and just people around that would really want to direct a DQ game cause they love the series. Of course that's not the same as the actual guy, but still

>>539114076
>The art style in 7R is clearly different from usual,
It's the original key art in 3D. The reason it looks so different is solely that it doesn't use cel shading and heavy black outlines on all the characters and props like DQVIII and XI.
>and at the very least we're going from Toriyama doing some amount of work to none.
To reiterate, the vast, vast majority of people cannot even tell when Toriyama has or has not worked on a DQ project, and even more people cannot tell Toriyama art from non-Toriyama imitations.
This isn't some "past argument", it's something easily noticeable, like when people post DQVI key art and label it as Toriyama's work, when the majority of it had been done by Nakatsuru, or when people claim certain Dragon Ball GT designs were not Toriyama, despite them retaining a lot of his artistic sensibilities (in addition to an outright confirmation on which characters he had designed), stuff like that.
Had Toriyama not died, I'd bet a majority of people would not know that he didn't do any art at all for the DQIII remake.

>>539114076
>The art style in 7R is clearly different from usual
"different" doesn't mean "it's not Toriayama anymore" though, it's still very much based on his art
>and at the very least we're going from Toriyama doing some amount of work to none
but that's the point, that has already been a thing for a long time. And it being a remake means they're still directly using Toriyama's designs instead of coming up with new ones, hence again the point of it not being what you say it is.
And also, i really don't see this other argument, the "they're trying something they'll use again", i think they just thought "this style fits this remake" and they went at it that way (plus there's technical reasons too, as they said it's a "diorama" look simply cause that way they don't have to fundamentally change anything, it's still a top down view game just like the og or the 3DS remake was. And i very much believe the 3DS version is straight up running under the hood here).

>>539114582
>the vast, vast majority of people cannot even tell when Toriyama has or has not worked on a DQ project, and even more people cannot tell Toriyama art from non-Toriyama imitations.
NTA, but guilty. I know all this stuff, but I cannot tell the difference. I basically at this point go by the metric of the newer it is, the less likely Toriyama did it. And even that probably isn't too accurate.

>>539114582
>the vast, vast majority of people
I'm not those people. I know most DQ promotional art wasn't by him personally. That's not what I said. You're writing paragraphs arguing with some other person.
>>539114734
"Based on dolls based on Toriyama's art" isn't the same as "based on Toriyama's art". It's different enough to be a major focus of the marketing. You're being obtuse because you want to pat yourself on the back for knowing Toriyama didn't draw every piece of promotional art for the series.
7R looks a bit different from usual and I think there'll be more of that going forward. I think to some extent they want to see how far they can deviate from standard Toriyama imitation.

>>539115458
>I'm not those people. I know most DQ promotional art wasn't by him personally. That's not what I said. You're writing paragraphs arguing with some other person.
Because you said nothing of substance. You're just saying "It's not Toriyama, that's a shift", and I'm saying the majority of DQ hasn't been Toriyama for over 20 years.

>>539115458
>"Based on dolls based on Toriyama's art" isn't the same as "based on Toriyama's art".
it's as different as "3D CGI models based on Toriyama's art", meaning the same reasoning should go for every 3D DQ game ever made. But i don't see you doing that, stop being "obtuse" and just say you specifically don't like this
>You're being obtuse because you want to pat yourself on the back for knowing Toriyama didn't draw every piece of promotional art for the series.
i'm just saying how it is, do you accuse people of "patting themselves on the back" when they say water is wet? Also, given you went there, it's not just promotional art, it's art in general: again Toriyama only did the designs besides maybe art for the first few games.
>and I think there'll be more of that going forward.
well i think there won't, as i said i think they just went a it from a technical pov, aka
>how do we do the least amount of work on this
>keep it top down
>what else
>uuuh something something link's awakening remake

>I think to some extent they want to see how far they can deviate from standard Toriyama imitation.
but that's the point, why would they do that? They literally have no reason to, unless you think they're that afraid of suddenly being called out for using Toriyama's art after his death (which doesn't look like the case, given the amount of retards itching at the thought of calling them out for "ditching" Toriyama's style now that he's dead, like what already happened when that one artwork for the HD2D games was done by the HD2D art guy instead of being done in Toriyama's style)

tldr all i'm telling you is to not jump the gun, they're not gonna ditch one of their staples just because. It'll probably be even more work too, as doing it in Toriyama's style is just part of the process and finding a new style means even more work for little gain

>>539116665
>how do we do the least amount of work on this
>keep it top down
>what else
>uuuh something something link's awakening remake
That's still more work than usual, and they're putting marketing focus on it. It's not some incidental minor detail that Horii with a doll was how they announced this game.
>they're not gonna ditch one of their staples just because.
I didn't say that. You're making shit up. I think they're going to experiment a little more. Why is this such a sticking point for you? Again, you're making up a guy to argue with.

>>539117716
>That's still more work than usual, and they're putting marketing focus on it. It's not some incidental minor detail that Horii with a doll was how they announced this game.
They showed it off that way because they wanted to talk about a new technique they were using for developing the game.
They're "experimenting" about as much as they do every now and then.
DQ1-3 were also 'experimenting' by adopting the artstyle of Octopath, like how DQ4-6 were 'experimenting' by adapting the games to the original DQVII style, or how DQVIII was 'experimenting' by being fully 3D, or how DQV on PS2 was 'experimenting' by using a chibi art style, and so on, and so on.

>>539117716
that's just how you decided to see it as
>That's still more work than usual, and they're putting marketing focus on it.
what if they just thought simply porting the 3DS version wasn't gonna fly? What if they just wanted to kill two birds with one stone and decided to do this one extra step over the simple 3DS port? It's not that deep
>It's not some incidental minor detail that Horii with a doll was how they announced this game.
that's not how they announced it though, that's just some video they did (and likely just to stave off retards going "MUH CALARTS!!! NEW = BAD!!!")
>Why is this such a sticking point for you? Again, you're making up a guy to argue with.
Am i really when all i'm saying is that you're jumping the gun? You're talking as if you just can't accept them doing it cause they felt like doing it, that there must absolutely be some hidden agenda behind it. Again, maybe they just liked this approach? Making a doll based on an already existing design really isn't that difficult for a company like them, it's not some grand effort they spent 10 years on. Hell, the insiders were saying that it was just a 3DS port cause maybe that's how it started out a few years ago, and it quickly snowballed into what it is now cause again it's not that hard for them to do something like that. And it's not that hard mainly cause they're still using the same old designs, again the whole point of this epic internet fight

>>539107418
you mean like this? >>538852889

i don't think they'll use this style again for the simple fact that it simply doesn't fit other games, besides maybe some eventual monsters remakes like caravan heart
also i think it confirms a "definitive" edition of VIII is happening and won't just be a ps2 or 3ds port but its own thing

>>539121965
would be high brand synergy to have a caravan heart remake happen right after both 1+2 and VII
also more time for them to work on XII lol

caravan heart will be a special mode in VII reimagined and will be what they hinted at with Kiefer (old man)

>>539122263
>>539123052
don't forget 1+2 and VII have save bonuses to and from both games

Aishe got censored btw. So did Maeve, just not as bad as 3's Warrior.

But no one will touch the wind spirit, right?

trodain togs is basically the erdrick's armor of modern DQ. First debuted in VIII, then in XI, now in VIIRe. unsure about IX.

>>539130673
Of course they're in IX. Everyone's clothes are in IX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x60H0alsB5w
In case anyone missed it a couple days ago, the Japanese Direct had a new trailer for I+II showcasing brand new content.

>>539128914
fujin fujo will fu little gabo again
or there will be rioting

>>539131815
>memories of alefgard

>go to censorship thread on /v/
>argue for both sides
>blatantly samefag on both sides
>make other posters look like samefags by timing my posts to be within 60 seconds of their own
>get a few dozen (You)s and stop the cancer
Feels great
Buying VIIR btw.

DQXI gave me a corruption fetish...because of Jinxed Jade.

I don't think I'll finish my stronger monster run in DQXI, I'm still in Act 1 and had trouble with Dora and the tentacular boss.

>>539137649
We all did.

Surprised I don't see anyone bring up Blue Dragon in regards to DQ7R's graphics. It was the first thing the remake reminded me of when I saw the trailer.

>>539138959
blue dragon reimagined Bouquet edition when

>>539139349
im no longer able to find that picture of Bouquet with the fat bastard anywhere.

>>539137649
Just grind, it solves every boss eventually. Except the final boss of postgame, he can maul a level 99 party when you don't know the secret to him.

Alternatively just do the meta Erik dagger build and nuke every boss in a just a couple fully set up attacks.

>>539138959
I really should play this game one of these days.

We are 45 days away from this >>539131815

Alright, what's DQ's equivalent to FF7? Or does that comparison not really work since DQ games are more similar to each other?

>>539154905
Probably DQXI.

>>539154905
There's no DQ game that's disproportionately popular or massively changed the direction of the series the way FF7 was and did, if that's what you mean.

>>539157176
That's what I meant, yeah.

>>539154905
>>539157176
Yeah, most DQ games just function irregardless of what came before.
The closest you can get to "changing the direction of the series" is perhaps DQIV, which marked a shift to character/narrative focused titles, but even then that's a continually evolving idea, and a lot of its gameplay ideas don't make it into DQV, and DQVII radically alters that character/narrative presentation to the point where the remakes of 4-6 are basically reskins of a lot of VII's systems (including its raw presentation).

If you want story centric titles, try the remakes on DS I guess- or wait for the remakes of I&II releasing next month, since they seem to have heavily updated the content of both games to add more story and actual characterization.

I miss her

do you think they'll implement caravan heart in someway?

>>539166198
You'll get HD-2D broccoli or doll broccoli soon enough.

>>539157176
FF7 is just 6 but worse and 3d. Didnt change anything at all it just had a huge marketing compain behind it and awful minigames.

>>539131815
looks fucking phenomenal

>>539120450
no

looking forward to the 4 remake discourse around its censorships given how people freaked out about what happened in monsters 3

why not give us a 1 dollar dlc that removes the censorships? base game still gets the low cero rating and we get to see breasts and hips. visual novels do it all the time

>>539167475
I hope they choose to forget Caravan Heart.

>>539087360
>>539087473
>>539090009
Your replacement, sir

>>539173336
nice got anymore? any with jacquline?

>>539176715
that would probably cause more drama than it'd be worth

>>539154905
>>539157176
>>539162516
it would be 8, first real fully fledged high budget 3d game if you're gonna make the ff7 comparison

https://youtu.be/z13aCVkZaaw?t=86

so is ruff going to lose his companion?

Surely they wouldn't remove the job outfits, right guise?

I reimagined a game without these outfits. And much more!
Gen Z, SE employee-kun

What is top left?

>>539188158
creamapi my beloved

>>539199359
button shortcuts probably, like up for map and left for heal all

Does Horii just love VII the most out of all the games. I thought a remake of 4-6 would have been in the cards and not one of the more recent remaked games.

>>539189148
If you mean being able to walk on his own instead of riding his wolf everywhere, it doesn't look it.

>>539202283
same deal with remaking 3 before 1+2 and saying that's the intended play order, their goals are beyond our understanding

>>539199359
At absolute minimum I have to give credit to the re-remake for massively improving the overworld over the dogshit from the 3DS version

>>539202283
im pretty sure he said V was his favorite in an interview

>>539081347
we already got one mega psaro

Mega Jessica

>>539209485
alpha sized

>>539209485
Cute, but I like Jade better.

>>539209485
her puff puff one shots final boss btw

Maybe those bum ass translators will finally finish with VII comic, or at the very least make finding raws possible. Finding the one for VI was already a colossal pain in the ass.

>>539199359
>Gained 900 experience points and 1 job proficiency!
>Obtained 197 gold!
So you don't even have to fight enemies on the overworld?

>>539211891
only if they're (i'm assuming much) lower level than you, and only if you strike first

>>539211891
Only if you ambush-strike them and you're overleveled. Like EarthBound except with an extra step.

>>539209346
So is this an alternate mega or a mega of a mega?

>>539212328
thanks doc

>>539212014
>EarthBound
Since you brought it up. I always liked the fact closer enemies could gang up and be part of the encounter. Shame I've never seen it after in other games.

>>539218228
i'm pretty sure it's a thing in blue dragon and its carbon copy metaphor refantazio

>>539218228
Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song and Star Ocean 4 had a similar system where if you come into contact with an enemy and other enemies are close by, it'll kick off a chain of consecutive battles.

>>539191421
considering they would have to make new fabric material and 3D scan them for each character, I say slim. the monster vocation class being removed is probably another reason why. maybe we'll get cameo costumes instead? if no costumes, RIP Sage Maribel or Fozu Maribel. Champion costumes were good too.

imagine if they remade chrono trigger with these graphics. imagine the meltdown

>>539244767
A Chrono Trigger remake is the #1 thing people think they want but absolutely do not actually want

>>539244875
what if Chrono Trigger Reimagined? It plays like the original, however there would be additional changes.

>>539236906
pregnant sex with maribel

>>539245257
Maribel with a big sweaty maribelly...

>>539244569
outfits are already in dude