Thread 538981316

>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM

>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo

>VV has a demo now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0

>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon

>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:
https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf

>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/

>Gmode announced they're rereleasing Smt Tokyo Requiem
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/

Last cycle: >>538659908

>>538981316 (OP)
Alice is Hulong Gaming?!

Ruffling Narumi's hair! Pinching Narumi's cheeks! Tearing Narumi apart limb from limb! Kyaaa~!

Narumi is gay.

>>538982015
Oh, I see now... a Psycho Apollyon has possessed this anon...

>>538981316 (OP)
真 /smtg/ plays anchor post

ideas for spurring more interest in 真 /smtg/ plays?

真 /smtg/ plays page:
>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-plays
any suggestions for the event or rentry page?

remember that you'll need 10 points in aleph's magic to progress past a certain point.

how's your playthrough going?

>favorite alignment route in smt 2?
>was aleph's ps1 redesign acceptable?
>what are your smt 2 theories?
>what do you think of how the smt 1 aspects were handled in smt 2?
>what do you think smt 2 did better or worse than smt 1?

>>538983027
Suggestions that may or may not be bad so feel free to disregard them:
1. Make the event period last a month. Starts on the 1st and ends on the last. May be too infrequent for some people's taste but it'd give people ample time to finish.
2. Don't have a separate signup period, just let people join in whenever. May be impractical for you since you have to keep the list updated. Combine with the first point and people would have more freedom to participate when it's convenient for them.

>>538983027
I've never really looked at /smtg/ plays before. Is this a thing were anons come together and livestream the game? Or is it just a thing where we all agree to play the same game for a few weeks

Ano....

>>538983027
might be moot but should we have a longer deadline for finishing smt 2? i mean, i always post a poll for this anyway so:
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3pKVxyA

>>538983654
i wouldn't be opposed to them just being a month long. it got this way because there was a lot of imactivity around the end of the smt 1 event. but there's not much activity right now for smt 2 anyway.
having it be more accessible with no signup date isn't terrible but you're right it would be more inconvenient for me. i'll need to think about it.

>>538984025
we all vote on a game to play through and post progress and thoughts in this general.

>>538983027
I'm not that far into it yet but I wish the bosses had more dialogue. You'd think Betelgeuse would have something to say considering his inspiration.

SMT IX (releases 2098) will have SCPs as demons

sooooo, ummmm...... hikaru.... does she...... hahahaha

>>538986565
have a cock? you know it

>>538983027
the ps1 design is a downgrade but it's not a big deal. i always laugh when i see it.

i quite liked aleph's early design concept as well.

Miyazu's death threats won't stop so Yuzuru came up with a solution to sneak him out of the city for a little while.

I want to fill PM Koshimizu full of holes

>>538988715
shadow imoutos

>>538988172
Reminds me of Atsuya from the Majin Tensei manga

>>538986873
girthy or feminine?

>>538991529
blindingly iridescent

>>538994560
Ai slop generated from soejima characters for some reason?

>>538994650
Probably Avery, he was doing this with Nuwa

>>538994650
Hey man Doi isn't that bad an artist

>>538998743
You can tell its been fed soejima art as a basis by the lips and eyes

Demon design idea, Alice but with jet black hair.

Demon design idea, Jack Frost but black.

>>539006780
what should we name him? ... BLACK frost?

>>538988715
The dandere has had enough

>Yuzuru
>So my sister wants to be with Khonsu? I wanted to protect her, but it's her choice...
>Miyazu
>If I smell that Prime Minister's cologne on my brother one more time I'm telling Khonsu to destroy a national heritage site.

>538988715
>539013180
https://youtu.be/ifaoKZfQpdA?si=zvij7yV5aX92MpUN

>>539014135
You should tell a joke instead of complaining about jokes.

There's apparently a Maken X manga. Has anyone read it? I remember liking the Strange Journey manga so I'll probably read it.

>>538981316 (OP)
Cunnysex with Alice.

>>539017075
no but I know it's by the Dorohedoro mangaka and I liked that

>>539017467
Holy shit really?
You just made a sale downloading it now.

>>539014595
The comedian should be the one making jokes, not the audience.

>>539018103
Doesn't that just make the audience a comedian?

>>539014595
>You should make a game instead of complaining about games.
>You should create a movie instead of complaining about movies.
>You should write a book instead of complaining about books.
>

>>539018103
Not a big Mystery Science Theater fan are we?

>>539018397
unironically yes. be the change you want to see.

>>539018963
How about you just let folx complain about whatever the f*ck they want?

>>539019084
can i complain about people complaining then? i should be able to complain about you all i want by your logic. anyways, the point is that it's stupid to just complain and not try to do anything to change things or make the kind's of things you'd actuality want to watch.

Chefei is fine but i want to see my bro sobek as well.

>>539019084
You can only complain about things he deems acceptable to complain about. b/c he said so

>1st Fionn Mccool's fight
what the fuck were they thinking? o_O
I swear, for the 3 playthroughs (two fresh, one newborn), this fight is ALWAYS a fucking pain in the ass. Hits fucking hard, no good electric demons, only magic nahabino has ruinous thunder. has a ton of fucking health.

SMT VI featuring Stavros Halkias from Tires Franchise

>>539034708
Well they needed to show off the new demon, so I guess making him a hard fight was the answer, to be honest I always forget fionn exist he's petty bland in my opinion.

>>539035650
I mean Fionn is cool and all, he always ends up in my endgame roaster even though he's kinda meh for endgame stuff but jesus fucking luis his first fight ESPECIALLY after Loup-Garou is fucking annoying. iirc, it's really only Yakumo + Nuwa or whatever that's a bitch boss fight in the third area (doing CoC) and that's it. game's difficulty drops like a brick. but fuck I forgot how ass this section is. I don't want to grind or abuse dampeners but at the same time this game isn't giving me great tools here....

Speaking about SMT V, rank the areas?
Taito > Minato > Shinjuku > Shinigawa > Chiyoda.
God I fucking love Taito, wish more of the game was more like that.

>>539035957
Shinjuku > Taito > Minato > Shinagawa > Chiyoda

Shinjuku is by far the most aesthetically pleasing. The lighter colors were mercy on my eyes after staring at red sand and stacks of concrete for so long. Taito was alright, little bit annoying to get around towards the end, but I still liked it.

On the other end of the spectrum, Chiyoda was absolutely miserable to navigate, not to mention everything was just a big grey and blue blob which really didn't do any favors. We went from "destroyed city" to "destroyed city with a bunch of canyons." Shinagawa was just kind of mediocre, not really worth remembering.

>>539014135
>t. Khonsu

>>539018475
>Mystery Science Theater
reddit incarnate

>>539035957
Minato's bmg is awful, almost made me drop the game the first time I played V.

>>539037509
why

>>538988715
>>539013180
Y'know it's weird, I'm not sure if she hated Koshimizu before Yuzuru died or if it only became an issue because he died and it was sort of Koshimizu's fault. I guess she would have expected Yuzuru to be treated with respect the way Khonsu takes such good care of her, but maybe she never understood her brother's wishes in the end after all.

None of the areas were good since they looked the same besides sand color

>>539038456
Taito

>>539038176
It always came off as just kind of desperately lashing out to me. She can't do anything, she's got no say in who does what or why. Her brother spent his life sacrificing for everyone else and now he's dead, the great and powerful 'Bino everyone's been jerking off ate shit and jobbed, and she's stuck watching from the sidelines while everything goes to shit. I can't blame her for wanting someone to take responsibility, especially with how much Yuzuru idolized Koshimizu and how everyone plays up what a great leader Koshimizu is.

>>539038714
Taito wasn't good either since it misleads you into thinking the sand is actually snow and it's nothing more than just traversing to the boss arenas to unlock the final dungeon

>>539038176
Right after she goes with Khonsu she'll tell you she's worried the PM is taking advantage of her brother. I don't think she ever liked him.

After V came out, I made a lot of bets towards what would be in the eventual rerelease. Many of them were right. But the one thing I'm surprised I got wrong was thinking after VV, interviews and an artbook would be out in no time. The last thing I thought would happen is that there would be one interview and most of it would be spent saying they can't say anything.
When IVA happened, a lot of conversation around the game was extended by the dev material and Yamai yapping about the game. V has none of that and it's not just frustrating, it's boring. I hope this doesn't happen with VI too.

>someone was telling me how they took months to program nahabino's hair
>when you're going down a slope it's completely static
wow great job japanese programmers, wasted time spent since tsukiyomi form is cooler anyways.

>>539009263
No, Jack Black

and am i the only anon that actually misses instant revive during death, god I hate saving every 5 seconds in SMT V because holy fucking shit screw you enemy turn first and then instawipe.

>>539045078
I like it more than having to wait to reload every time

>>539045404
>try to juke demons
>off camera demon back hits me
>wipe
>lose 10 minutes of progress because I wasn't autistically saving
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh god this is so annoying.

>>539043970
They did say it. Doesn't mean they did a good job, lol.

>>539046161
it's telling when a fucking GACHA company does hair physics better than you do with less money.

I wanna get into this franchise, what game should I play if I want "true megaten"

>>539046976
Just play Nocturne first.

>>539046976
just play 1 >_> tourist

SMT1: Steak
SMT2: Burger
SMT3: Reuben
SMT4: Mac and Cheese
SMT4A: Pizza
SMT5: Smashburger

>>539048391
You're making me hungry, dude...

>>539043140
>When IVA happened, a lot of conversation around the game was extended by the dev material
There was also DLC and outrage because the concepts were better.

>>539048391
what is SJ

>>539048769
Ribs.

Anyone ever watch Yama's visionary item and it's mainly just showing what an average day for him is? And he stops and goes "Am I even making a difference?" and then he thinks about it and then goes right back to sentencing law fags to death. For some reason it's funny. I don't think it's supposed to be funny but it is.

SMT1: Mcdouble
SMT2: Quarter Pounder with Cheese
SMT3: Mcchicken
SMT4: Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese
SMT4A: Quarter Pounder BLT
SMT5: Fillet o Fish

>>539049975
SJ??

>>539049975
I find this agreeable

Femzai's done, next up male Abdiel.

Famed Ronald McDonald

>>539050085
Fries

>>539046976
Nocturne is the traditional entry to the series. It's not the ball-breaking nightmare game memes like to pretend it is, but it's just hard enough (and jank enough) to give you an idea of how the modern games play and what to expect going forward.

If you wanna focus on the classic titles first and not deal with the more elaborate mechanics of the later games, give Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers a shot instead. It's one of the best written titles in the franchise and a very good bridge between Classic and Modern MegaTen.

SMT1: Persona 1
SMT2: Persona 3
SMT3: Persona 5
SMT4: Persona 2 IS
SMT4A: Persona 2 EP
SMTV: Undertale

>>539050443
how is nocturne jank

>>539050223
Nice. It's more complicated but you should draw their what if Nahobino with a fem Dazai and male Abdiel one day. Or maybe it's the gigga tits that make their Nahobino design, I dunno.

>>539050513
Well there's Mot's weird infinite turns thing, Conversation skills being an odd addition that no one really asked for, the absolutely bizarre math that goes on under the hood (leveling up makes magic skills weaker after you pass a hidden level limit, fun fact), some odd race/compendium sorting choices, and the clunky loading zones because >console memory limitations.

It's still a very good game, it's not terribly buggy or anything, but it's a little bit clunky here and t here.

Can someone recommend me SMTtubers to sleep to? Marsh is nice but I'm looking for more depth. It's fucking insane how most megaten discussion on mainline is just "Did you know the Shin in Shin Megami Tensei means "New" and "True" that means this is the New or True Goddess Reincarnation." jfc. why are good smttubers hard to find.

>>539050868
SimplyDad and Larrue are the only acceptable SMTtubers.

>>539050905
>Simplydad
ughhhhh, him and Nam are insanely whiny fuckkk

>>539050868
I like Nyarly, but he mostly does challenge runs and first impressions rather than any breakdown of lore or mechanics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi2d9nqIkXI

>>538994650
If I had to guess, it's probably got something to do with the fact that she looks kinda like Joker, and that a decent amount of Persona art occasionally includes the "megami tensei" tag.

>>539050990
That's nice, now stop posting AI slop

>>539050243
>>539050373
>when the fries just came out fresh and are better than the rest of the food

People will only do long form lore break downs of the older games because there are interviews and dev materials to pull from. Yet again, one of the setbacks to V is that it has nothing. No one wants to make a super speculative lore break down under the chance they are wrong.

listen I don't even need anything for V or anything, but I can't even find your so called "lorebreakdowns" for the other game. i swear smt tubers are so shallow and it's mostly on gameplay discussion and PERSONA COMPARISONS

>>539050868
kid capes maybe?

>>539051459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmGLMZwubo

>>539051662
haha i baited you THANKS!
>>539051558
yeah i'll take a look because good fuck if I get "WHY REMAKE IS BAD" over and over and over again or THE DARK SOULS OF PERSONA tier videos im gonna lose it

>>539050678
That's a good question, since the demon makes the body of the nahobino a male Abdiel would focus more on masculine features... so a giga cock basically

We need to bring back V subtext autism

man i'd like carlos videos but i can't understand him which is fucking hilarious because im mexican.

>>539051960
If Abdiel was red, their Nahobino would probably just look like Moloch.

>>539052335
>red
I meant male.

>>539052080
I wish NINE were more accessible because NINE and V as far as I know are the games that are the most about gnosticism than all the others and I feel there are a lot of comparisons between them but NINE is just too much of a pain to play. I don't want to use a script. I'm not that desperate.

would you say Majin Tensei 2 is worth playing or nah

>SMTV:V
>Receive essence
>Horny thoughts
why am I like this

Yeah now it's just a reasonable 570 dollars, lmao.

>>539055273
Reminder that Nahobino fusion IS sex. And and the real reason Miyazu never fuses is because she's underage.

>>539055421
I can't agree despite my love for Dazai fucking angel pussy because I make it my mission to prove V is not a gay game despite all odds. Even at the cost of that which pleases my dick.

I heard there was sex in Ronde

>>539058606
Every copy of Ronde was personally jizzed on by Atlus staff before being shipped.

I'm having fun with Soul Hackers 2 even if it's baby SMT

>>539058967
finally an explanation for how I got pregnant

DDS1+2 combo release for $70 or either one digitally for $40 each, coming soon...

>>539038176
I think the implication is that khonsu things gods should not take the aid of their knowledge when it puts them in a vulnerable place, and he makes miyazu believe that too

Raidou on Switch 2 was fine, just a whatever port but the Persona 3 port seems really half baked. Makes those rumors that Sega got next to no dev kits and RGG studios had to help teach everyone how to use it seem real.

>>539035957
shinjuku's mid actually, it relies too much on the gimmick of discovering magatsurails

>>539062815
buy it or SMT commits suicide

>>538981316 (OP)
what would the starter devils be in an atlus monster tamer game?

>>539034960
What? Not enough cash to make a deal for El Donte?

>>539066701
probably those and maybe pixie

>>539067239
I want Stav as a playable character and Nick Mullen already made a good soundboard to use for voice lines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyy-RcI6pxE

I WILL NEVER STOP POSTING 8K SMTVV SCREENSHOTS!

>>539079278
post some demon milkers then

>>539079328
THEN MODS WOULD MAKE ME STOP POSTING 8K SCREENSHOTS! IMPOSSIBLE!

>>539079278
Based.

>>539079476
coward

>>539079328
look closer

>>539079902
bring back the Leeloo angels

>>539079621
It took me a second to realize you added censors and it wasn't just more pointless Doi patterns.

would humanoid demon designs be improved if their nipples, anuses and genitalia were visible

>>539080153
Yes

>>539079967
pits

>>539081137
peropero

>>539080153
Yes

>>539080419
>>539080885
>>539081137
Low poly.
Still would.

why did they removed kaneko's lilith from SMT V? SMT SJ/IV/IVA had two different versions of angel. (why? idk)

>>539084371
because like it or not kaneko's designs and his artistic sensabilities are relics of an atlus that doesn't exist anymore. the only reason they keep his designs around is because they're assets to be reused.

>>539084371
everything will be Doified

>>539084943
I don't even think there will be an artist after Doi. They'll just replace him with Midjourney when the time comes and have nameless interns touch that up.

>>539046976
SMT 4 in terms of story, SMT 3 in terms of gameplay

>>539064442
Was Khonsu wrong though? There is a clear moral dilemma. What he was really wrong for was not realizing it was unavoidable though. They had to fuse. They never would have switched partners otherwise.

just play smt1 damn it, it's not even that hard to play nor does it have any annoying shit like smt2

why does smt have so little information online even though it's suppose to be an autistic game?
>nobody has a chart of which navigators are best for what
>nobody has a list of good end game builds
like lmao what the fuck smtvers? why does this game have the casualtards

>>539091136
you do it if you're so autistic

>>539084371
they didn't feel like justifying co-existing designs (they also had Odin, Angel and Jack Frost who could've gottne that treatment)
it's pretty lazy they didn't even have an equivalent demon for her slot though, so the game just has more demons in every race -except- night which has less

>>539092771
Would it make sense to have two Liliths in the game?

>play smt v
>try really hard to not abuse critical
>keep using critical because nothing else comes close
AHHHHHHHHH

I'm sure TGS will have news.

>>539098037
Haunt Cope

>>539098824
But anon they said there would be new merch. Imagine my surprise an excitement for.... a plushie Mara announcement!
IT'S NEWS

>>539098037
I'm sure it won't but I also said K. Rool won't be in Bananza so what do I know

>>539099170
You made a bad bet is all. From the start they wouldn't shut up about Rare era nostalgia so it was kind of a given at that point.

Trying to level up guest Demi-Fiend in SMT5 to 150 in godborn.
They really did everything they could to make him useless huh.

>>539091136
Because most people's autism is towards the writing/alignments and not so much the mechanics. Doesn't help the game isn't the most open/accurate with info.
>Navigators
Hell to test, even Robin's video has some oddities. I've never gotten a gold card from Yatagarasu in a NG+ situation so I think its either extraordinarily rare or he's conflating the guaranteed pulls you get regardless of navigator (balms/incenses also work the same way, whether its Ippon-Datara or Cleopatra, they'll be guaranteed spawns instead of pulling from the navigator encounter pool).
>End game builds
Bonus points for the new revelation tablets not being infinite which makes respecs, which is what would make build-crafting feasible for NG, a scare/limited thing (no clue why you can't buy this in Godborn, ask the lavish demon box/gold card the same thing).

>>539098037
It will be an SMT3 remake.

>>539102631
good god no

>>539102672
The raw seething would sustain me for the next 10 years.

>>539102631
TGS is so devoid of news these days they wouldn't even announce something like that there. We'll maybe get one piece of new merch if we're lucky.

>>539103120
Pixie fleshlight

>>539102836
spiteful creature

>>539051117
>stop posting megaten images in the megaten thread
Huh?

but why ai art? why even art spam?

>>539105951
>trying to understand the mind of a schizo

I’m generally super anal with art so the anatomy imperfections (when not used in a way that evokes eroticism) and imperfections drive me up the wall. So when I see ai images, it’s like being flashbanged with shit and there’s no way I can enjoy said image when there’s so many glaring problems with it, even if people deem them meh.
Also I want to rape asahi
>>539098037
Who wants to bet it would be an SMT 4 remake…only for the switch 2?

>>539080419
>>539080885
>>539081137
How big is it tho... you know?

>>539111352
commission WHEN
(sorry i know I keep asking, if i'm that annoying you can tell me to stop)

>>539111352
>Who wants to bet it would be an SMT 4 remake…only for the switch 2?
They'll announce a new plushie and nothing else at TGS and you will be happy.

>>539112617
horndog horny for dog

>>539112617
haha what if someone commissioned nozomi pegging asahi haha

>>539112617
Got a new apartment so no internet yet and phone isp blocked catbox but here’s a sample sketch
https://gofile.io/d/ArKdT3
>>539112876
As long as it’s as cute as the Mothman one. Maybe they’ll throw a Moh Shuvuu keychain in there too

>>539113552
nice!

Is SMT good for you?

>>539115752
Usually. V and VV seem to turn people into gay schizos though.

>>539115928
Only you see schizos. What it added was people who appreciate endearing relationships. If one of the scenario writers for smt1 enjoyed it and also that guy that redraws smt1 liked it, I'm more than happy to be counted among them. Also I hope VI gives you a bench with a qt girl next time. Also I think Doi said their his current favorite characters but no one cares what Doi thinks anymore.

are the gay schizos in the room with us now

Is daigaku-imo good?

You can see Kei's boobies and nips in the Maken X manga.
It is a 10/10 manga.

>>539122281
of course, Dorohedoro had a bunch of tits and nipples as well

why is dexter so memed now?

>>539117175
Yes, they are all the Raidou fags.
bless them

>>539122281
I love the Maken manga. Imagine if it sold well and we could've had detailed bossfights against all the Hakke.

>>539125501
It is very cool so far. It's making the fights seem like actual life or death situations instead of the extremely easy battles in the game.

It was probably already pre-planned to be 3 a one-off 3 volumes manga. If it sold well there likely wasn't going to be any continuation regardless because these supplementary tie-in things ultimately act as advertisement for the main product.

Rank the SMT protagonists on a scale of schizo to autist

>>539129426
Schizo
Nanashi
Demifiend
Hero (SMT1)
Aleph
Flynn
Nahabino
Autist

Demifiend is kinda hard since he's a bit of both.

>>539129674
Was gonna rank them about the same except maybe switch Flynn and Aleph. Doomguy goes in the middle with SMT1.

>>539129674
>Demi in schizo
You fell for memes. Demi is just pure autism. Even Hijiri said so.
>Nahobino in autist
He's an autist because Aogami is his schizo limiter. Without that he's full schizo. (Which is one of the best parts of Vengeance despite being so short)

Rank the protagonists by penis size

>>539131149
>hung
Doomguy and Aleph
>average
Demi, Flynn and Futsuo
>small
Nanashi

>>539131731
What about Vkun?

>>539132472
That is Aogami's dick dumbass.

>>539132472
looks like he shit his pants

>>539132103
Small when by himself, hung as Nahobino.

>>539132702
you don't shit the front of your pants moron

>>539132472
that's one puffy vulva...

I just reread the Lone Marebito out of boredom and it got me thinking about Raidou again. Got me thinking about how Narumi could turn into a villain. I wrote it don't but I won't subject fellow anons to what is basically fanfiction. Unless there are other Raidou turboautists in this thread.

>>539132798
no his suit is tight around his ass and the shit is settled towards the front because of how he's kneeling. I'm an expert in pants shitting physics

>>539131149
>10+ Club
Abel, Doomguy, Bino (Fused), Ringo
>7-9, Big
Aleph, Hero, Flynn, Nakajima, Seraph
>4-6, Average
Bino (Human), Bunker Kid, Demi-kun, Hackerman, Kyouji, Raidou XIV
>3 or Less
Nanashi

>>539133041
this nigga shits from his dick

>>539133192
Def move Raidou up a tier, trust me.

>>539133041
Average V fan:

why is there no hentai of tao?

>>539132619
No one can remember the Nahobino is visually 95% Aogami and 5% young man.

>>539134018
fucking delete this RIGHT NOW

>>539134060
>wear a skin tight costume
>That's 95% of your body
it's literally young man's body wearing aogami like clothing, shut up

>>539134263
Its not a costume, his whole body is reformatted. his transformation completely unravels him and rebuilds him
Did you play the game
Theres a demon conversation specifically mocking him for his lack of penis in that form, its not just a human body.

>>539134018
congratulations on his transition

Vkun personality confuses me desu. He seems like a gentle kid but he has a deep ass voice and he does the coldest shit without hesitation. He feels more like Demifiend but less "meh I don't care" and more heartless cold killing machine.

>>539134464
Vkun is trans...

>>539134830
Several haunt conversations mention that he's weirdly intense, to the point that it makes some of the demons uncomfortable. Aogami expresses concern that he's been thrown into too much too fast. I guess the implication is that Vkun just had to harden up fast, where as the very limited characterization Demi-kun has implies he's always been kind of a weirdo.

>>539079767
>dabbing on Lawfags

SMT VI is a gacha game my girlfriend's boyfriend who works at Atlus said so

>>539091136
because V sucks lmao

>>539135456
Close, Dx2 will be rebranded to SMT VI (it will be updated forever and be the final SMT game)

>>539135268
I always pegged Demi-Fiend as a delinquent.
>>539135563
I'm kinda meh on V on my third playthrough (finishing up my marathon, I'm even debating if I should go to CoV after, not really feeling the CoC run). It's not that I hate it, it's just I hate how the game doesn't explain anything to me, except in side dialogue that are one offs (who designed this fucking asshole, if I accidentally press A welp guess I miss that lorepoint). Like how in the fuck does Fake Tokyo work? Is it like in SMT2 where everyone is hooked to matrix machines? That can't be it, you can clearly teleport with your body, is it another world or area in space? I mean could be but how the fuck do you land in real tokyo then after the bridge collapse? And this is just the first few minutes, there's so much questions I have that don't really get answered because it's either A) don't think about it too much. B) described in NPC dialogue you can easily miss. C) it's in the other route D) lol we forgot too.

>>539135456
SMT6(9) will be about a fence-sitting neutral fag who has voiced lines and no dialogue options and aggressively goes after the law and chaos aligned characters and beats the shit out of them for being single minded morons.

>>539133029
>>539133029
>other Raidou turboautists in this thread
That would be me.

>Narumi could turn into a villain
I feel like he's actually the "good" ending someone could take after getting essentially radicalized from his time as a spy. He had the potential to become a horrible person but instead decided to go down a better path, and even though he's questionable sometimes Narumi is ultimately still a good guy. Him being a villain would just trash his entire character imo

>>539133870
She's mid.

Tao >>> Tae

>>539136480
You're right, he is a decent guy all around. But after playing SMT4 recently my idea was kind of inspired by Jonathan, as well as a joke an anon made in the previous thread about Narumi dying in Raidou 3.

In the games we see Narumi feel disgruntled about Raidou constantly risking his life to save the day. About how someone so young has so much responsibility, and how Raidou is always saving his ass in one way or another. He always jokes it off and waves it away though in the end. But what if these feelings effect him more than he lets on? He was upset about Akane sacrificing herself and Tae says he actually feels really deeply about things, but doesn't show it.

Now here me out. In SMT fashion, a demon takes advantage of these negative feelings, dials them up a bit more. Thanks to this he's able hear Gouto speak, and he overhears one of Gouto's and Raidou's (one-sided) conversations about him, where Gouto basically drags his character through the mud. Raidou, obviously the silent protagonist doesn't say anything. Narumi takes this the wrong way and think they fucking hate him.

This post is way too long, and I'm cringing at myself for writing all of this out. Let me know if you want to hear more though

>>539135864
>I always pegged Demi-Fiend
say no more

>>539137894
just write out all your autism, anon. that's what i do. make use of this general's purpose.

>>539138349
This general's purpose is to discuss how IVA ruined Nozomi actually

>>539138953
Calm down there homeslice

>>539138349
Well if you insist... Time to shit up this thread big time!

So anyway. After hearing Gouto bad-mouthing him, he runs off to some place like a widdle baby. It's actually because the demon (I haven't thought about a specific one) is just amplifying the despair in him. The next day Raidou and Co. discover Narumi has gone missing and start searching for him, and whenever they return to the agency it brings home how quiet and empty it feels without it's boss around. Of course during all this more supernatural incidents are happening.

Some time later Narumi is found. This is where the Jonathan inspired stuff comes in. He's nearly fused with the demon at this point. Like it's still Narumi, but he has some inhuman features about him. Anyway in a nutshell he goes on to explain how he wants to make a peaceful world that would have no need for soldiers... or Devil Summoners.

This is very Law coded I know. But in my mind Narumi is somewhat a Law aligned character. Bear with me here. In Raidou 2 there's an extra scene on the rooftop (the infamous "if you were a girl" scene) where he talks about putting others first. You only get this if you choose certain dialogue options which I think give you alignment points(?). He is also dressed like a groom at a gay wedding in that game. Wearing all white, like Akane who gets married to the Tento Lords and thus also wears all white.

Anyway Raidou makes has to make a choice whether to side with Narumi or Fight him. Or try to free him from the demon. I haven't actually thought that far yet.

>>539134830
He is. Multiple demons mention in the haunt that they're disturbed by his cold and unwavering glare that sees through them.

SMT x Utena

>>539066701
Jack Frost, Pixie, Mokoi

>>539066701
Ideally, there would be 1 Law, 1 Chaos, and 1 Neutral rep. Alternatively, they could do 1 for every combination of Law/Chaos/Neutral and Light/Dark/Neutral.

>>539066701
Jack Frost (Ice), Pyro Jack (Fire), Pixie (Force), Agathion (Elec)

SMT Legends YHVH when?

>>539134830
>He seems like a gentle kid
When? Most of his personality is painted a fucking sociopath that Aogami is getting in check.

SMT1: Bernie
SMT2: Judau or Bellri
SMT3: Setsuna
SMTSJ: Amuro (Post 0079)
SMT4: Heero
SMT4A: Kamille
SMT5: Mika

>>538984169
don't forget to vote in the poll for the event deadline:
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3pKVxyA

SMT fans are the Weezer fans of video games, I'm sorry bros but it's true

>>539147796
That's a horrible thing to say about Weezer fans.

i have literally never heard of weezers until it got memed onto tiktok. i don't get the stereotype

>>539147928
>>539147796
what's a weezer?

>>539146694
Kamille is more based than that ugly looking dyke haircut nanashi

The Belmonts are canon to megami tensei

>>539148097
Nanashi is cool

>>539146694
What do any of these words mean

>>539052923
For the average person, no. It's just a slightly better version of MT1 which is in turn a moderately worse version of SMT1. But it's basically the prototype for SMT1 and 2, so if you want to see the rough draft of some of the concepts that would later appear there it's interesting from a novelty standpoint.

>>539148481
He's naming Gundam protagonists
I think comparing to the most similar megaten protags

KMT2>>>SMT1

Spaghetti >>>>> Pizza

ngl I kinda regret going newborn in smt v. it's not that the game is hard or anything it's just fucking annoying. I always have to "die" first to figure out what the fuck these fuckers weakness is THEN prep my team and then unga bunga destroy them with debuffs/buffs. Out of all the press turn games, V feels the most "if your team doesn't abuse weakness, welp you're going back to the load screen". Phys feels kinda nerfed early to mid game. im getting burnt out already damn....

>>539148492
He said majin not megami

>>539148763
I'm retarded and suck cocks, carry on.

>He is also dressed like a groom at a gay wedding
I kek'd

>>539149035
whoops for got to quote the post
>>539140338

>>539148713
skill issue (the skill of just looking up weaknesses for bosses)

>>539127636
Did the book get scanned?

SMTV would be so much better if you had the gameplay of Mario 64 in the open level areas

>>539157973
We're NOT ready for Nahobino to try and fail jumping through walls like a dork with goofy sounds

>>539157973
desu I feel like we're almost there. imo SMT gameplay is a bit too samey with the press turn so the actual combat needs some innovation, but the exploration like you said needs less linearability. I really fucking love Taito and if they wanna do more levels like that that's fine but having more platforming would be fun imo.

I still think Yuzuru was originally gonna be a femc option.

>>539157973
Assassins creed unity parkour x press turn combat

when are we going to get a goofy MC in SMT mainline? a cute genki girl or fun loving dude having a fun time slaying demons and being an adventurer only for things to go very very wrong.

>>539159214
I think smtv was going to be a femMC game with no options.

SMT x Palworld

>>539160197
If it was a feMC with a female overprotective robot wife I would have bought 5 copies...

>>539159829
Dazai spinoff?

>>539160934
dazai is a sperg.

>>539161264
And he's our sperg :)

>>539160758
People think fujo bucks are powerful but yuri bucks are the true gold mine.

>>539161264
Dazai found God while you couldn't

>>539163592
Dazai insulted god by proclaiming he was a warrior for god. You will never reach his level of delusion.

>>539163592
He didn't find god, he found a gold woman with a fat ass.

>>539163750
All true prophets are schizos

Dazai appreciators: God's warriors, stand proud against the evil of chaos, thigh appreciators
Dazai haters: vile sinners, reddit atheists, pedophiles

Dazai used his hate for Nahobinos as an excuse to be homophobic. It's the truth.

>>539164625
Other way around

Hi, im sure this has been asked a lot and I read through a lot of it, but I have a rather specific question: I played persona 5, enjoyed it but got a bit tired with the amount of text/lesser gameplay, cause gaming sessions felt like reading sessions (nothing wrong with it, but I wanted to play with my personas) but I pushed through because I really liked the story and cinematics. I started playing P4 a while ago but didnt get far, same with Tokyo Mirage. But at the same time I want to because what I enjoy the most from a rpg is the story.

After reading many posts, im inclined to play SMT more than retaking persona (4 or 3) but im unsure because many posts talk about non existent/bad story. I surely want more gameplay, but I want a good story too, I know it seems contradictory.

In case you guys convince me to play persona, it will probably be p4 or p3 reload, but in case its smt, im not sure what game to start with. Is playing the mainline series in order important? Story/lore wise? I have a 3ds and a friend offered to lend me his smt games (he owns them all and persona Q 1 and 2 too) but Im also open to playing any other title in steam if its a better approach (must be pc tho, no other consoles aside from 3ds)

Thanks a lot for your time and answers!

How's the performance for raidou on a switch 1?

>>539164953
SMT focuses a lot more on the demons and combat is more challenging than Persona, but the stories are less character driven and more philosophical about one's choices and beliefs.

SMT V Vengeance is the most modern one so most similar to what you've played so I would go with that. SMT IV's story is focused on the main party members, so you might like that one too.

>>539164953
Nocturne and V are the ones with light stories, the rest are fairly standard. I would try IV maybe, or Nocturne which still has a good story even if it's not super present.

>>539164953
If you want a game that bridges the gap between Persona and modern SMT cleanly, I'd recommend SMT V or Soul Hackers 2. You don't really need to know the wider series lore or metaplot to follow either of them. The latter is much more story/character focused than the former, but outside of Persona the wider SMT franchise tends to care about gameplay and mechanics first, narrative second with a few exceptions.

>>539165346
adding on to this: might be controversial to recommend this in this general but you might like Metaphor. not exactly SMT but it's still Atlus. The combat is more SMT while still having Social Links from Persona. However the story does become a yapfest at times. Also a modern Atlus game. No SMT demons though

>>539165816
Saizo NEEDS to give Narumi his hat back!

>>539166232
That hat cost me 25,000 and gives +20 Defense. Narumi can have it when he pries it from my cold dead hands.

How good is Soul Hackers 1? The only thing I know about it is Nemissa (Narissa? I've forgotten her name. The chick in leather with the blue hair) because she's hot

>>539166863
It's pretty solid, easily on par with any of the classic MegaTen titles. There's a lot of exposition dumping but it makes up for it with some certifiably weird shit and a lot of Native American symbolism/spirit quest stuff which is something Megami Tensei never really touches. If you liked I or II you'll probably like SH1.

what are the chances that atlus put raidou remastered on sale for the steam autumn sale?

>>539168623
I remember some Atlus games being around 40% off during the summer sale, so probably will be discounted for autimn sale too

The romantic nature of the relationship between Aogami and the protagonist serves as a poetic metaphor for the conflict of law and chaos, as told through the duality of Susano-o: An Analysis.

>>539168623
Probably, I have no idea if it would be considered too recent of a release to be on sale after a few months but it could happen. Keep an eye out if you're interested.

>>539165165
Loading times between areas are ass but it's pretty playable otherwise, I didn't really notice any lag and I'm not autistic about framerates so I don't notice any drops that aren't significantly horrendous. I really only got the Switch 1 version because Switch 2 game key cards are useless trash and my PC isn't great but it doesn't matter because I wanted it physical.

>>539140338
Not the worst idea. It did occur to me that Narumi would probably just be direct and avoid this conflict to begin with, realistically I could see him going "Gouto talks!? And you never told me!? Well to hell with you too, you mangy cat!" or something to that effect, but if he's been a little more depressed than your version of events is also quite possible.

>He's also dressed like a groom at a gay wedding in that game
I remember being really disoriented that he was in all white because I didn't realize he wasn't wearing brown until Tsukigata. I felt brain damaged at how long it took to notice the change.

>>539164953
if you liked p5 you will like the other persona games and metaphor. you'll probably at least like the newer smt games too.
>p4
>p3
>metaphor
are the closest to p5 and they have fewer / shorter exposition dumps than p5. but they are still vn-ish.
>p2
>p1
archaeic but worth checking out if you like p5. they're not hard either.
>if...
archaeic with not much story at all so you might not like it but i think it's still at least worth checking out to see the roots of persona.
>smt 3 (nocturne)
>smt 4
>smt 5 vengeance
are all good gameplay wise with decent stories.
>smt 2
>smt 1
are archaeic but have interesting stories.

all are playable on either pc through steam / emulation and 3ds (for smt 4)

>>539169306
Give me the tl;dr

>>539170332
gay sex

>>539170828
Well yeah but that's gnostic.

>>539170047
Yeah you're right about Narumi. Like I said it's basically edgy fanfiction and more of a thought experiment because I thought having conflict with the guy who's been rooting for you for two whole games would be interesting. I wanted to come up with a way to make him an antagonist that sounds feasible.

But yeah at the end of the day he's not the type of guy to complain, hold grudges or even give much of a shit. But I need any excuse to think about him because my brain has latched onto him like a vice for some fucking reason

>>539171085
>But I need any excuse to think about him because my brain has latched onto him like a vice for some fucking reason

I understand, I've been thinking about Raidou in the same way for over a year now. Narumi has found his place in my heart too, he's a pretty interesting character and it was nice to see him have a more active role after Raidou 1 where it felt like he didn't really do much. The novel sort of mischaracterized him but he still managed to do something important and he's pretty great in the manga. I don't know much about the Drama CD so I have no idea how that is.

>>539170280
>"are all good gameplay wise with decent stories"
>Saying this for IV and VV
>Calling P2, SMT 1, and SMT 2 "archaic"

>>539172127
Haha thanks for being so understanding anon! By the way I want to ask where you're finding all the DSRK fanart. I've tried looking on zerochan and danbooru but there doesn't seem to be much. I've had a look on Pixiv but that site annoys me as you can't see the most popular artwork without paying for premium

>>539172210
they're pretty archaeic by today's standards. they'll feel archaeic to someone who just played p5.

>>539170332
That all forces, no matter how law or chaos aligned, earn for equilibrium. It is why they hold to their beliefs thinking they will create a lasting world order. But this only proves how much they really yearn for neutrality, the great equalizer. They earn for the human spirit which at its core is love. It is the one thing demons never comprehend. However, humans can grant demons that power through their perception and their faith. Susano-o as a god that represents love due to human faith, can reach a place of equilibrium, true neutrality; which is to embrace law and chaos to the fullest in equal measure. He is a human god.

What is the difference between an orc and a goblin?

We should put Aogami Autist and Narumi Autist in a ring to see who comes out on top

>>539173358
I'm pretty sure they're both bottoms.

>>539173121
Lucifer was proved to be a neutral fag all along, but does this mean YHVH is too?

>>539172631
Most stuff I find on X(formerly Twitter) and I usually search for terms in Japanese (you can find it on the wiki and copy the Japanese from there) and then I look at what artists are retweeting because not everything is tagged and then I just go from there. If you don't want to sign up for an account, try using nitter. It only works half of the time but it's better than using the actual site.

>>539173498
I don't necessarily think Lucifer was a neutralfag all along. I think it's more he realized at some point that the thing preventing him from reaching true freedom was the fundamental mechanics of the universe so his attention turned from fighting YHVH to finding a way to subvert the mechanics of the cycle. Because Law and Chaos are both integral parts of the cosmic balance, slipping towards Neutral was the only other path available.

>>539173841
>was ignorant
>became enlightened
>enlightenment is neutrality
You can believe something but be ignorant to that belief or be in denial.

>>539172210
desu the gameplay isn't just archaic, even by the standards of its time they sucked. you play those for the story and put up with the gameplay

>>539173882
Me on the left.

>>539173167
Ask Tolkien

Y'all see the shoes? Y'all see the money? Legit boss ass niggalo on this gang shit I'm on top

>>539173358
>one is posting about smt
>the other is just horny

>>539166863
I'm playing it currently. It has some quirky mechanics, but nothing hard enough to force you to dig into them if you don't want to.
Demon Loyalty is an interesting idea, but more often than not it ends up being a bit of grinding so that the demons will actually perform the commands you want when you want. You can get around this by giving gifts to your demons to raise their loyalty.
However, demons don't level up or learn new skills, so you're encouraged to frequently fuse new demons anyway.
Dungeon design is all right. Some of them have interesting gimmicks and puzzles to play around with and none of them linger for too long. Some of them just want you to speed through to the end. Exploration isn't super rewarding because there aren't many chests or cool items to find in dungeons.
The pacing of Soul Hackers is fast and you move from locale to locale pretty quickly. I've found that I tear ass through most dungeons with just the MC, Nemissa, and Zeed, though for a while I'd occasionally summon one or two extras just to speed up random battles.
The plot sort of just goes and hasn't been anything to write home about, but there are some cool moments. The atmosphere of the game is nice though. It nails the whole "plucky underdogs fighting the system" feeling.
Overall, I'd say it's worth a play on the basis of it being a decent SMT game that doesn't waste your time with trivialities.

>>539175753
Hmm I wonder which one is which.

>>539173978
Enlightenment is balance and addressing the underlying things that cause imbalance. Neutral is usually less "neutral" and more "stagnant and ignorant."

>>539176213
Neutral is about duality. It's been like that since the first game and in every game.

>>539176213
Neutral is all about balance, the fact that it doesn't last forever doesn't mean it's not worth trying since nothing lasts forever. The obsession with trying to permanently fix the world is one of the pathologies of Law that makes it end poorly.

>>539176363
it's about balance. like yin /yang

>>539177106
Technically neutral is the true eternal state because law and chaos worlds always eventually end one way or another. When a law world ends, it's because it becomes chaotic, and vice versa. It's pushing back towards neutral again.

>>539177498
Which is why the MC and Aogami are the corresponding yin and yang colors respectively

i part about smt but i'm also just horny.

>>539177679
neutral ends lead to law / chaos eventually too.
there's an interview for smt 1 from kaneko that says smt 2 was written from the perspective that no matter which ending you get in smt 1, it leads to conflict again eventually.

>>539177679
>Technically neutral is the true eternal state because law and chaos worlds always eventually end one way or another. When a law world ends, it's because it becomes chaotic, and vice versa. It's pushing back towards neutral again.
What do you base that on? In SMT1 I seem to recall the dialog of Lao Tsu being about how it's a tough balance to achieve and easy to fall one way or the other, and that sounds about right when looking at human society historically.

>>539178060
>it's a tough balance to achieve and easy to fall one way or the other
It is. Neutral wavers but even when one side does over power the other, that state never lasts forever either. My point is if a law world or chaos world wins out, eventually the opposing force will end that alignment's hold over the world. When that happens we return back to neutral. Even if it is temporary, it is still a constant.

Finally finished up the Raidou Remaster. Took my sweet time with it cause I wasn't worried about spoilers, but I also was utterly shocked at how little I remembered about the original game when I played it way back in the day. I give the remaster a B. Fixed a lot of the bad parts, didn't see any og the new bad parts people bitched about. Was just good.

>>539176363
>>539177106
Hard to say it's about duality or balance when many of the neutral endings are more humanity forward and attempt to reset things to the status quo.
Perfect balance is the hypothetical ideal of True Neutral™, but in most of the games it plays out like just telling the demons to piss off and leave humanity alone, which isn't really balance and just recreates the conditions that created the conflict in the first place. In practice, neutral has rarely actually been about balance.

>>539180095
>but in most of the games it plays out like just telling the demons to piss off and leave humanity alone
Uh yeah, because the (bad) demons are manifestations of humanities irrational feelings. Them leaving corresponds with balance returning and the insanity of Law and Chaos factions being dispelled. Again, nothing lasts forever and that's fine, it will fail someday but that's life.

>>539180095
It's about telling the chaos and law related faction leaders to fuck off. That incidentally makes most if not all demons leave because they are there to fight for law or chaos. However, that's not the case in V's true neutral. I'd argue the ending itself is self aware of that because it makes you know it doesn't feel "right". Even in the ending itself, Goko says "actually this idea of removing all demons is probably pointless".

NO SEXY SNAKE LADY
PLEASE DON'T SUCK MY DICK
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Damn, forgot my image

>>539182045
>>539182184
She's not into icky boys, sorry.

>>539182324
Creation Goddesses can't even have sex probably. They're the GW's mega law messengers after all.

>>538981316 (OP)
HOLY SEXOLICE

helllo where do i download and paly smt nine? alice is in there?

>>539182184
What happens if she goes down a water slide but her floating mirror gets caught and stuck

>>539187578
It's sadly not translated

>>539190914
She just dangles there

>>539191161
Id play it raw so any links?

>>539195328
Its on Myrient under Microsoft Xbox

>>539195328
>>539195593
>base64
aHR0cHM6Ly9teXJpZW50LmVyaXN0YS5tZS9maWxlcy9SZWR1bXAvTWljcm9zb2Z0JTIwLSUyMFhib3gv

I love Ringo!

>>539196164
For all it's flaws SH2 had a pretty strong cast. The time spent hanging out at the bar and shooting the shit showed off the personalities in the party and how they all come together or clash better than most Persona Social Links do. I think it's kind of interesting that Milady and Arrow never really stop being antagonistic to one another or get more moderate in their beliefs, they just gradually transition from being enemies to rivals.

Genuinely feels weird to see someone say something good about SH2 when this general and one SMT youtuber said for years that there's nothing worth of value and robbed precious development time from the Nahobino game

>>539200170
Honestly the only mid thing about SH2 is the dungeon design and some quests. Music is good, Character design is awesome. Story is pretty interesting. Characters are fun to watch. The combat is basically just Persona.

I also think that in some ways SH2 looks better than SMT V. In my memory SMT V abuses bloom effects, everything looks bright and glowy but its been a while since I've played it so I might be wrong

>>539200170
I think part of the problem is the weight of expectation put on it. Soul Hackers 1 was such a highly regarded game with such a distinctive visual style nothing was ever going to live up to the hype, especially not after all these years of waiting for a sequel. SH2 made the choice to just say "to hell with it" and do it's own thing disconnected from the wider Devil Summoner franchise and that unsurprisingly rubbed a lot of people who wanted a throwback to the classic games the wrong way, especially with the flashier character designs and simplified combat/element system exacerbating that Persona 5 hangover we were all feeling at the time.

>>539201013
>Disconnected from the wider Devil Summoner franchise
Now that you say that, I've noticed that more and more games are dropping the "Shin Megami Tensei" title. Persona dropped it after Persona 3. Soul Hackers 2 doesn't have it. Raidou Remastered doesn't have it either.

>>539200707
The story is banal and the only character worth something is Milady. Getting all the party members early is also disappointing since
>I also think that in some ways SH2 looks better than SMT V
SH2 looks cheap as hell in both direction and graphics quality, SMT V doesn't go overboard with bloom and effects either, it looks better in every possible way.

>>539201539
Yeah I guess you're right about the graphics. Like I said it's been a while since I actually looked at SMT V but for some reason I remember it looking overly bright and washed out

>>539201539
What didn't you like about the story? I think the biggest complaint I had personally was Figue simping for a man she met once and deciding to go full Skynet based on it but otherwise I didn't have any major complaints.

>>539202390
>Spoiler
Woman moment

>>539201539
I hate that image since it's just cherry picking literal cutscenes in the story or boss battles where most of the budget went into as 95% of the game is just you traveling through generic ruined environments with sand everywhere or the most lifeless city ever

guys did you know that smt iv a is like PERSONAAAA???

>>539207634
Calling IVA's characters like persona is frankly, a disservice to persona. I think IVA has it far worse than any persona. Closest persona comes to IVA levels of character writing is maybe persona 4.

>>539207797
wow you even made me more mad

>>539207852
Does any persona title have a character relationship as tripe and handled in so juvenile a way as the whole love triangle with asahi and toki, complete with her calling you master shit? I genuinely don't think so and I'm being 100% straight with you
At least the bitch who calls you master in p5 works for a maid agency

>>539207852
he's right you know

I consider this whole "seething about IVA being compared to persona" shit this general has been entertaining lately pretty baffling. Guys even the Japanese fans realise it. Fuck, even people on the DEV TEAM realised it.
You're acting as if the game doesn't literally even go as far as to parody the persona all out attack with your gaggle of gay groupies.
Its like seething that someone called the sky blue.
Now if you personally want to argue as to whether the similarities make it objectively bad or not, thats a different matter entirely. But getting mad at the comparison existing period? Pretty retarded desu

haters

You guys keep forgetting that Apocalypse was intentionally made for a teenage audience in mind

it's made for the kino audience in mind

It really started around IV

>>539210306
But the teenage audience is fond of meme like ONE MORE GOD REJECTED.

>>539211759
And what do you do at the end of IVA

>>539212154
call god a poopyhead

Even japanese fans who LIKE the game have no problem admitting its persona-like.
Some mention a japanese interview where the devs themselves alluded to intentionally going for a persona feel on bonds route but I can't find it.

desu I never really got what was the point of denying god during his boss fight in massacre. either way he takes a turn and fucks my ass.

i really like SMT VV opening, shit is so sick. makes me want to replay the game again. no im not gonna.

>>539212856
What the hell is Grok translating as 'cracking'

Persona created characters and character development okay.

>>539213605
I don't know, grok is pretty fucking retarded. You can see in that one tweet its translating the word route as the fucking root mathetical symbol √ lmao
>>539213684
Me when I pretend to be retarded and ignore the obvious intentional parallels. The literal all out attack mechanic they added means nothing guys people are just seething about character developing

>>539213864
Navarre's redesign is also blatantly meant to be envoke a Persona mascot lol

>>539213684
This type of retarded comment isn't just stupid because its playing dumb about the obvious and undeniable ACTUAL persona influences, its also retarded because its implying SMT never had character development until IV/A?
Do you actually play these games or do you just shitpost about them on 4chan?
Yeah bro chiaki, zelenin, zayin etc don't have any development or change bro, they're the exact same from start to the end. SMT only invented character development with IV.

It hurts to know that modern SMT has less teeth than Persona.

i love persona

I love Raidou

>>539213410
It's really good actually yeah. Not many people talk about it but I like how the only mention of Aogami you see out of that whole trailer is his hand during the sacrifice but it has so much impact regardless. And it's a kino shot to end the opening too.

>>539218782
inside Amane...

>>539218782
what did he mean by this

aogomi x MC isn't that heavy handed. all he does is the whole "i'll protect you shit" in the demon haunt but nothing insanely gay. i was hoping to pick up some context that's straight up wow that's kinda gay but there's fucking nothing. you fuckers tricked me.

>>539219450
they're going inside her mind or something. i don't remember the context.

>>539219505
>he missed the gay blowjob cutscene

>>539219505
That's why I think the fujos/gays who obsess over them are weird: there's barely anything there but I guess that's enough for them.

>>539219450
protag is going to cum inside Amane

>>539219450
they're cumming inside her pussy or something. i don't remember the consent

>>539219505
Anon, Susano-o's most famous story is swearing to protect some sad girl from a giant snake and that's their entire love story. He swears to protect her and that's literally it. That is why it's explicit. Have you read any shoujo manga? If a character swears to protect someone, it's basically a love confession. Also I'm mostly saying this as a complaint because Japanese love tropes too much.

SMTV MC's "personality" confuses the fuck outta me. He's definitely cold, he seems pretty not all there especially when talking to his friends, but he has quite "soft" movements especially in his battle animation. Then he has a deep ass japanese voice. Shit confuses the fuck outta me. Sucks we don't even have a "gag manga" or adaptation to even guess how their personality is. He seems like a pure mean killing machine but he's not really "mean" and he does tend to show emotions when Aogomi gets hurt. but when Tao or any of his friends dies he's just like meh. but then again he did hug saori before he killed her so again another what the fuck are they going with.

>>539201502
>Persona dropped it after Persona 3
Persona 1 and 2 didn't actually have Shin Megami Tensei in their titles in Japan. It was added for the Western release.
Persona 1 was Megami Ibunroku Persona, and the PSP release dropped the "Megami Ibunroku" part and was just called "Persona." The Persona 2 duology was just "Persona 2: Sin/Punishment."
The Raidou games didn't have it either. In fact, only the first Devil Summoner game had SMT in the title. Everything else was basically just spin-off territory. The Western releases of some of these games just included them for brand recognition and/or because it sounded exotic.

>>539214126
>Persona mascot
>only the two most recent games have one
And no, the dog in Persona 3 is not a mascot character.

>>539221079
>he shows emotion when something happens to Aogami
>doesn't give a shit about everyone else
It's almost like they tried to tell you he doesn't like people and Aogami the only thing he's tried to get close to. Honestly if you're actually confused look at Yakumo. Nuwa literally tells you that they're so much alike. If you can tell what kind of person Yakumo is, then that's your explanation for what the MC is like.

some guy keeps spamming /vn/ related stuff all over smt /v/ threads. what vn is it? doesn't look like yuzusoft stuff or maybe it is idk

>>539223027
I shall deduce it without seeing a single picture of said VN

>>539223026
I mean sometimes he does which is kinda huh. Yakumo has hard movements though which trips me up. It's weird seeing MC be a huge jerkass and then do shit like evergreen dance lol

>>539221079
Bino comes off as kind of a loner to me, just sort of wants to be left alone and read his books and keep his head down. The only people he really shows any strong emotion to are Aogami, who's literally inside his head (and later Koshimizu on CoV), and the Qadistu, who actively antagonize him. I think a lot of his intensity comes from being thrust into this world of gods and demons so suddenly and being forced to lock in or die. Someone else already said it, but if you think about it's pretty similar to the trauma Yakumo went through with his near-death experience with a demon and subsequent paternal relationship with a demon partner, and he's another stiff and seemingly cold character with a very intense and direct personality.

I think I'm going to play the Survivor games next, is there any reason not to play the 3ds versions over the original ds games? Doesn't sound like it, but you never know with remakes.

>>539223765
MUH MORE PIXELATED GRAPHICS AND LOWER RESOLUTION AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OPENINGS
DeSu2 RB opening is actually fucking sweet since it's animated by a kamige animator.

>>539223765
3DS versions have better balance and more content

SEXOOOOOOOOO LICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>539223765
I can't speak for DeSu 2, but Overclocked is the only good re-release we've ever gotten.

>>539223295
Are the "elegant" moments you're describing when they're in Aogami form? You know most of that is Aogami, right?

>>539228351
I mean Nahobino form but you get what I mean, the blue form basically is Aogami form.

>>539228515
>>539228351
still him.

Best SMT opening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EhDGXyUAaQ

Male Abdiel is done, if I remember correctly an anon requested one with femzai and female Abdiel so i'll do that one next.

>>539230812
Objectively maybe not, but it's my personal favorite.
https://youtu.be/uXjxLUDq1Uc?si=3P_C6CdHzm3demqp

>>539233774
No homo but I think I prefer this design

>>539234192
You are definitely homo

>>539233774
>been hung up about no feMC for V
>now get to be hung up over no male Abdiel

Truly, we were robbed.

>>539233774
It's the same guy

>>539230812
for me it's >>539234156 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma7FntX9PDs

>>539234591
also forgot this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrklaZJmCws

What the fuck man does Sukunda/Sukaja do fucking anything in SMT V?

>>539235043
Barely

>>539235043
Buff and debuff skills in general don't really do much of value in SMT V. I didn't really bother with them except for Dagda and Zeus.

>>539235398
>>539235369
yo I get it xD debuffs/buffs lol that's SMT gaming
but I'm actually starting to get pissed off almost every boss is fucking horseshit.
FUCK YOU YAKUMO

Booted up SH2 after seeing anons talk about it and the combat feels awful. Like, it doesn't flow well. Regular speed feels too slow with the Sabbath Animation, and Fast speed just looks terrible.

I miss Imagine.

>youtube autoplay
>oh shit someone is playing KMT
>it's the background footage for a grooming apology video

>>539238047
SMT moment

>>539235739
Was this the last difficulty spike? jesus fucking christ. Nuwa and hydra are nothing compared to the annoying dickmunchers that are Fionn (1) and Yakumo.

>>539230812
I'm going to agree with >>539234591
DDS2 has a fantastic opening. It's pretty cool that all of the material with Serph at the beginning and end of it was purely just material for the opening video and not something they reused from the game itself. It's pretty well choreographed by SMT standards. The song is also one of the more memorable of the jpop-era of SMT openings.

Tao won btw

>>539238498
unless I'm misremembering nothing in that intro is reused except for the parts at 1:38-2:00

>>539237836
Filtered

>>539239240
You're right. It's mostly original material aside from a couple cut-ins. I was actually mentally mixing a few things up with DDS1's intro, which is mostly reused cutscenes.

I can fix her

>>539240576
she's the joker baby

>>539238047
I knew the allegations against Pazuzu were true.

okay chiyoda feels really inflated. when does this fucking end?

>>539238672
>gets confirmation she's Amaterasu
Damn right she won.

Omagatoki: Critical
How do I get the fuck away from using this shit?

>>539247112
You don't, it's the single best skill in the entire game.

>>539247112
just let 'er rip and don't think about it

>>539250254
ass sucka

>>539250337
the mic rula

Tyrant Master Shake

Food Meatwad

what is eramegaten anyways