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A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
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>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro Truck Sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator, NoLimits2, Nuclear Sloption

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r

get back here

>>539181742 (OP)
How long are the routes in Run8?

>>539193172
I didn't know the Sr-71 had an FTL drive

>>539193382
lol

>>539193172
I hope you plotted that course beforehand. Wouldn't want to get stuck in the middle of an asteroid or something

>>539198031
It's an interstellar VFR flight. I'm not yet qualified for IFRs. just got to take the first to the left after Pluto.

>>539199727
topkek that looks like gmod

>https://www.patreon.com/posts/uh60l-mod-2-0-138859868
>https://www.patreon.com/posts/dcs-world-armed-138916353
all three of you blackhawk people getting thrown a bone

Anyone know that feeling where you're waiting for your HOTAS to shit the bed before upgrading because it feels wrong to just ditch one semi expensive piece of equipment for another piece of equipment?

>>539217287
yes, i ended up selling the previous one on ebay

>>539217287
Just do it and sell the old one

>>539218248
This. I volunteer /simg/ to help propagandize some newfag into buying that worn out junk.

>playing 1968 campaign
>manage to sink a commie sub while evading three torpedos the second one panicked into my general direction
>get on the tail of the second one
>manage to almost smell its asshole
>launch three torps to pound its behind
>forget that I am still rather fast
>apparently faster than my own torpedos
>like two seconds after launch get message I got flooding everywhere
>switch to outside view just in time to see my third torp hit me
RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>539228729
Can you even repair enough in Cold Waters? Just feels like you're completely fucked if you get properly hit.

>>539229064
Nah, I ran into myown barrage. Sunk with all hands.

>>539231052
RIP

>>539231274
...and it was the perfect setup. Like, he didn't notice SHIT. I was completely in his baffles, it was like running up to someone and kicking them in their ass, but to stay with that picture, I missed the ass and did a Charlie Brown flip.
I mean LOOK AT THIS! HE HAD NO FUCKING IDEA! HE PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN HEAR ME EXPLODING!

>>539193290
about 4-5 hours

>>539119084
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w64fyqmLEU
not quite those speeds but people have survived mach 3 ejections.

>>539231629
It's different each time isn't it? Sometimes they get btfo easily and other times you're chasing each other and it's intense.

Bongs, buy our M-346s and we'll let you built them yourselves. An irresistible offer for anyone who grew up with Meccanos.

>>539234804
We don't want your Soviet Russian Communist M-346, I've told you before we're getting the babby plane and that's final.

>>539236251
I'm happy as long as you don't buy something that's not european.

>>539234443
I tried again and this time I iced that fucker.
Sadly in the next mission, when I was just in his baffles, he randomly pinged me and sent a torpedo on my ass without me being able to avoid running into it.
But I saved before that encounter, so who cares.

>>539236564
Honestly the 346 is a great plane but I just want us to make our own fucking aircraft, we used to make great planes, now we do fuck all. Having the Red Arrows fly something that isn't British would be embarrassing.

>>539239037
Yeah It would be the symptom of a bigger illness that has already spread through and damaged Europe, by constantly buy american equipment we slowly lost our manufacturing capabilities. Smaller countries of course have to buy, but the UK should be able to at the very least develop and built a trainer.
The biggest issue is your politicians stalled too much, you should've started development 10 years ago. Second issue is the trainer market is become saturated. M-346, T-7, L-159, T-50, Hurjet, TX etc.
Back in the day the UK alone would've bought enough trainers from an UK company like BAE to justify the development cost, so foreign sales were a bonus. Now the UK,from what I heard, no matter what trainer they choose they might be looking at 30 airframes max. Without guaranteed sales on the foreign markets you're looking at a big risk. Hence why Aeralis offered to partner up with Dassault to jointly develop it, as dangeroud a partnership with Dassault is.

At least on more serious matter the GCAP is surprisingly going smootly. The JV was formed, the consortium for the engines and electronics as well (engines; RR, IHI, AA / avionics: Leonardo UK, Elettronica, Mitsubishi) and the UK is already building the pre-demonstrator for a scheduled first flight in 2027.
Returning to the M-346 the best of both worlds would be to buy/loan some M-346FA armed with APKWS II for antidrone operations and let Aeralis have more time to develop their products, even if it ends up not making money so that the UK can retain critical design capabilities.

>>539241401
I wonder why BAE haven't put anything forward, maybe it's not lucrative enough. The manufacturer won't be selected until next year, but it does appear that Aeralis have a reasonable chance of winning. They'd be built in Scotland apparently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qnv8vvqw9o

>>539241987
>I wonder why BAE haven't put anything forward, maybe it's not lucrative enough
Most likely scenario. One big problem with big companies is risk avoidance. They only want to lower costs and maximize profits.

>>539245912
>slap another engine on the hawk
>stick a modern cockpit in and a full glass variant for F-35 training
>have a light attack variant with a cannon and hardpoints
>call it some other birdy name that hasn't been used like Kestrel
>sorted
BAE please give me a job

>>539247839
that's what they did with the Hawk T-2 but it had airframe and engine issues

>>539248220
Sad. Looking into it, it does sound like it wasn't worth it as the advanced hawk with HAL wasn't a success.

This one was also pretty funny.
Down at 900ft and the Bear was still bothering me. Sure, I was going flank speed, but fucking hell, 900 fucking feet under.
Does anybody know what the range of those sonobuoys and the dipping sonars are?

>>539249921
>Does anybody know what the range of those sonobuoys and the dipping sonars are?
Probably miles if you're at flank speed.

Friday.

>>539254963
four more days

>>539254963
Fucking finally jesus
Good thing, it drops just for the weed end. Bad thing, its going to be fucking hot AGAIN. Just when i thought it was fucking over and i was up for comfy chill and rain gaming. God damn it.

>>539254963
This better not be a shoop

>>539262447
Nah its real

>>539254963
>mfw able to airdrop and pick up pilots without having to land at all
>maybe even able to lift other planes for shit and giggles
Holy based

>>539263325
>destroy enemy air defenses
>hover over revetments waiting for crickets and compasses to spawn
>pick them up and toss them in the water
Oh yeah, it's griefing time

>>539262447
Real

>>539239037
>>539241401
Aren't trainers the one thing where it's ok to cheap out and buy foreign?

>>539254963
Ready to try some crazy figures with that flying fuckery.

>>539266313
https://youtu.be/jCJyeuePf9w?si=m4a3uW4YgqkRJbNt
talking about crazy figures

>>539268056
Didn't Mitch explicitly say that the new heli physics would NOT let you just fly upside down?

>>539268580
Something is definitely fucked because he's lacking a whole rotor and has no collective applied either. Looks like its just bugged.

Any recommendations for a HOTAS? I've been using pic related for like ten years and now that I've gotten into DCS, I realize I'd like to have a way to the targeting pod around, and deploy countermeasures etc in a more easier way.

>>539274903
budget?
I'm using VKB gladiator and STECs for my setup since it's the cheapest premium quality hotas setup I can find.
If you want a HOTAS modeled after specific jets, then winwing has the viper ace for the f-16, and the navy ace for the f-18

>>539274903
On a similar note, I have the HOTAS X but likewise I'm looking for something with more switches and a second hat maybe. The thing is I unironically like the "seesaw" rudders on the back of the throttle and from what I've seen so far there are basically no setups that have them that aren't entry level like the X. Is there anything that fills that niche?

>>539274903
how poor are you?

>>539277613
>>539275578
My budget I would say is up to $500 or so. I'm more interested in just the joystick since I use a saitek 3-axis throttle quadrant (power, prop pitch, mixture) for my throttle. Though looking at the Navy Ace, all those controls do look enticing...

See-saw rudder is a must for me since I don't have rudder pedals and actually prefer the seesaw.

>>539286241
>I'm more interested in just the joystick since I use a saitek 3-axis throttle quadrant (power, prop pitch, mixture) for my throttle.
That's really not going to work with any jet fighter in DCS. (I have one and love it).
Having a real fuel lever is great for the MiG-15 though. And of course for props.

>>539287036
Yeah you're probably right. Apparently the gladiator can twist so I'm satisfied. I'll go with it and the mini stecs. I can always keep my saitek for my prop needs.
Thanks gents.

>>539289003
I'm curious how you got dead set on getting a rocker switch rudder, when you throttle (and my throttle) and your stick don't have that. Are you also using the TWCS? That's the only one I know of that has that.

>>539293140
every ace combat licensed consoleslop stick has had a rocker rudder since at least the xbox 360 era, they're better than a twist stick but are btfo by pedals

>>539293904
oh shit I didn't consider Ace Combat lmao, because it's the two controller triggers put together

>>539265920
I don't have an issue with the RAF using M-346 as trainers, it's mostly the idea of the Red Arrows using them. Maybe we could use the 346s for training and the Red Arrows can just use the Hawk until the 2040s or whenever the supposed 'it's too fackin old mate' date is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uX1V2wlKo8
MSFS B-17 dev update

>>539265920
Yes and no in my opinion. In the past with 3rd and 4th gen planes you could get away with it since fully developing a frontline fighter jet was still feasible by yourself even if you weren't the USA or Russia so your industry could still retain the necessary knowledge and expertise.
Nowadays we're already at the point where we're developing 6th gen fighters which outside of the US and China I don't think anyone can develop and build by themselves simply due to the monetary requirements. Within GCAP as much as we're going to share there are parts of the development that are going to be led mostly by a single country so your industry won't get the same "exercise" as it would've if you had developed it alone. Trainers could be the one thing where you can still fully develop them alone, letting your engineers pay for their bills and stretch their legs.
If your country is too small/poor you have no choice either way so it's a non issue, but bigger countries should take the risk and make their own stuff.
The issue with the UK is literally that they just started too late due to the 2006 decision to not enter the AEJPT but put all their eggs in the T2/128 basket to save some jobs.
But not everything is lost, while the Aeralis proposal is facing an uphill battle due to their modular design idea, it could also be their ace in the hole if they prove they can actually develop it. If they make a fully drone/autonomous variant it could serve as the platform for the loyal adjunct (in the low version) in the GCAP program. They could stretch out their decision by continuing to send their pilots here in Sardinia on the M-346 and allow Aeralis to fully flesh out their stuff.

>>539305861
Why did AEJPT collapse?

>>539303964
>it's mostly the idea of the Red Arrows using them
That reason alone is why I think the Aeralis idea is the most likely one to be chosen, in the UK from what I saw the Reds are seen as a national symbol, here in Italy it's kinda the same but we have a shitload of smelly ""anti-war"" lunatics that want their disbandment since they "promote war" "cost too much" etc.
>>539306016
No real commitment by European nations. Everyone tiptoed (Italy/Aermacchi as well) until it fizzled out into nothingess.

>>539304353
sweet

>>539306351
The Red Arrows are seen as very British and a national symbol so it would be embarrassing for them to use a foreign plane, although having an Italian one wouldn't be as bad as a yank or Fr*nch trainer.

>>539306819
the frogs iirc are in a even worse position. they need to replace theirs as well but have no program yet. I've heard they might go the swiss route and fly PC-21s.

>>539307983
They two alpha jets this year due to a crash too

>>539308254
thankfully no deaths

>>539317061
We need a helicopter with three rotors

>>539305861
>modular design idea
Flight certification is going to be a nightmare

>>539318973
*disassembles mid-air*
nothin personnel

>>539319175
what I never understood with "modular designs" is if it's like with guns that you can swap things out with an allen wrench or if you still need to weld stuff together.

>>539319175
>>539318973
I'm more concerned with the FBW software. imagine having to write something with 4 possible different wings, each of those with a single engine and double engine version.

>>539320372
Imagine if they make a helicopter variant

>>539305861
>They could stretch out their decision by continuing to send their pilots here in Sardinia on the M-346
how does that even work? allowing another country to train your pilots

>>539320564
V22 osprey/helicopter/trainer

>>539320797
>it's just a fucking cockpit you stick on anything
Have a wheeled variant too to drive around

>>539321113
submarine version coming soon

>>539320586
it's nothing new. the ENJJPT and other similar programs have been around a good while. Their aim was to improve interoperation within NATO members. The IFTS is similar but "privately" owned and aimed more at selling Leonardo's products. The end result is the same, getting your wings.

bump

>>539335450
big statues are kino

Mental to think that the RAF will have a modular transformer plane with lasers in my lifetime.

>>539341127
We're in the early Gundam timeline

>>539341127
pilots used to fear people with lasers on the ground blinding them. Now it's the inverse, melting planespotters before touching down

>>539342647
>'Oh my Leonardo did you see that m-ACK'

This was a single mission.
Bring some dudes to Narvik.
The complication was that the narrow passage was patroled by a dipping sonar helo who of course managed to detect me, despite going 3 knots silent running and 900ft under.
I sent a decoy the other way while evading a torpedo (which actually got me, but didn't kill me).
After that they left me alone (one patrol ship actually ran ashore like the retarded fucking zigger he was) and I only had to navigate two mine belts and then I was completely alone; in fact there was NOBODY beyond the minefields, so after unloading I could simply LEAVE COMBAT.
This mission really was not hard.

I think I read too much information and i've got it all fucked up in my head can anyone confirm if this is correct?

If I want to fly an F-15 in DCS my only options are the F-15C which is low fidelity via flaming cliffs 3 (or stand alone?) or the F-15E which is a hi-fidelity from RAZBAM?

>>539225000
i got a really cheap x52 pro because i had a bunch of coupons and shit at a microcenter that was doing a clearance on em, so i picked it up for 80 bucks thinking it was gonna shit itself within 2 years and i could get something else later.

This piece of shit refused to die 7 years later. I kind of like it desu but the biggest problems i have with it is it needs like 2 more hats and the software blows

>>539289003
btw, if you're getting the gladiator, you should try to get it when they have stock in the US.
I bought one a few months ago and I had to pay 40% in tariffs

>>539348496
Correct, and I'm maybe a year there will be a full fidelity F-15C that ED should give away to all current owners of the F-15E if Nick wasn't just using the company as a pyramid scheme to fund his warbird habit.

>>539351347
thanks anon
honestly feel a bit sus grabbing the f-15e with all the shit that's going on, might just snag the f-15c. I haven't lo-fi planes in ages so im gonna have to get creative with binds on my shitbox hotas.

>>539349157
>I kind of like it desu but the biggest problems i have with it is it needs like 2 more hats
That means it's time to buy a collective, anon. You can add a lot more hats that way, and it's not like you're only allowed to use them with helis.

>>539351624
the two hats + pinky trigger as shift is fine on the stick, the real pain point is just having ONE hat on the throttle. Even with the pinky shift one single hat on the throttle sucks. Especially when im flying the F-16C which has so many functions on the throttle hats.

>>539351624
why buy an expensive collective when you can just buy a cheapo left stick and take out the y-axis springs

>>539353030
i've seen those VKB left stick for those HOSAS setups but i always wonder how people modded them so they behaved more like an actual throttle and wouldn't just snap right back to center. Seems like a problem to not have detents for idle cutoff and after burners too.

>>539353312
I have the left stick in the omni throttle configuration because I also use it for Elite.
You can easily change it to a normal throttle by removing the springs on the y axis and tighten the friction screws.
To differentiate between mil power and burners, I set the max range on the y axis to 0 - 80, and have 80-100 be on the twist axis.
This way, pushing the trottle to max doesn't activate the burners until I use the normally unused twist axis

>>539353889
forgot pic

>>539353030
Because I don't have to nigger rig everything that I enjoy.

>>539353889
oh that's pretty clever. Does it get uncomfortable to use the twist axis to stay in AB for an extended amount of time or do you remove the springs for the twist axis as well so it's not trying to snap back to center?

The omni throttle + gladiator combo honestly looks great because you've got so many hats at your disposal.

>>539354142
and I don't enjoy having to swap out for a collective, a throttle, and a left stick on my setup depending on whether I want to fly a heli, a plane, or a space ship

>>539354309
I don't think you can remove the springs, but it also doesn't get tiring for me to twist for the afterburner.
This is the tradeoff I accept for using the left stick as 6DOF strafe controller, a collective, and a throttle.

You WILL spend extortionate amounts of money on flightsim gear and you WILL never use it

>>539357781
I always wonder how much time those people with $10k sim rigs actually spend flying the damn plane.

While the 1968 campaign has really really really shitty torps, simply sneaking up behind a commie and just shadowing him for a bit never really gets old

>>539364530
very little

>>539364530
I've got 900 hours in DCS in the last two years with probably an $8k setup including HOTAS, computer, and VR headset.

>>539374756
How do co-axial helicopters yaw?

>>539357781
Joke's on you, I only spent $700 on flight sim stuff and most of that was just the VR headset.

>>539370773
how much is that minus the vr headset and computer?

>>539364530
i feel like you dont really need to spend more than ~1k total on your setup

You can get far with a decent 500 dollar HOTAS and 250 dollar head tracking setup, throw in some 250 dollar rudder pedals and that's kind of all you need?

>>539370773
this is like four months of NEET gaming, high-end setups are wasted on the employed

>>539386592
>250 head tracking
You can get decent head tracking with a $10 webcam and opentrack

>>539384848
I have probably two grand in the joystick, throttle, collective, pedals, and mounts (all Virpil hardware with Monstertech desk mounts). I am spoiled on it now though, and can't imagine going back to my t.6000000. With VR you can skip basically all the MFD panels and various "cockpit" decorations with their associated hassles.

>>539386825
Kek, this is true. If I ever lose my current job it's going to be real hard to rip myself away from the rig long enough to get another one. Maybe I'll have my picture wind up on the internet when I'm homeless and flying this setup out of a shopping cart with stolen electricity?

>>539396434
That Sea Power?

What's with the physics in farming simulator 25? You make a solid connection with a front loader or a telehandler, and the adapter jumps up and down like jiggle physics.

M-346 begins its US tour, tickets are running out. Only at the best concert halls.

>>539409878
jelly

>>539418878
Is that because they're replacing the T-45? Does the M-346 have a carrier variant?

>>539419424
>Is that because they're replacing the T-45?
Yes, it's for the UJTS competition to replace it, current contenders beside the M-346N are the T-7, the T-50N and the Scorpion lookalike.
>carrier variant
Nope, the Navy said they will do away with carrier qualifications and will only do FCLP to wave off. The only trainer being proposed with a hook and capable of carrier landings is the Scorpion lookalike, but they haven't build any actual prototype yet so it's still just a claim.

>>539234804
There is zero chance the next Red Arrows plane will be foreign.

>>539411923
yes.

>>539427373
What does the rear seat look like?

Speaking of the Red Arrows, there will be a flypast today with American F-35s at Windsor.

>>539434584
Pretty barebone, only the essentials.

up

Miggers rejoice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrHbMd9Lobo

>>539437245
Shame, does X Plane have shared cockpit out of interest?

>>539446969
Not natively. You need to rely on paid mods.

>>539435849
The yanks couldn't handle the weather so just the arrows

>>539448824
nice

>>539443881
I haven't bought a module in years, but I thought I would've caved in for either the MiG-29 or the Eurofighter, yet I feel no desire to buy it. I hope the EF comes out soon, or I'll abandon DCS completely.
The F-4 and F-1 tempt me but not at full price.

>>539449985
F4 is great but i agree. im really considering the mig but at the same time i can go play BMS with a lot more content. EF will be a day one purchase tho

>>539449985
>>539450976
>>539443881
my tinfoil hat theory is that ED decided to shit out this version of the mig29 so that people would obviously not be very exited for it, leading to poor sales and giving them the argument of "we gave you a full fidelity redfor and you didn't buy it! stop asking for the SU-27 etc!"

Which one of you was this? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/breaking-plane-nearly-crashes-trumps-35915766

An air traffic controller on Tuesday had to repeatedly warn a Spirit Airlines flight to turn away from Air Force One's path as both traversed over New York, according to LiveATC audio.
>"Pay attention, Spirit 1300, turn 20 degrees right," the air traffic controller said.
>“Spirit 1300, turn 20 degrees right now. Spirit Wings, 1300 turn 20 degrees right immediately. Pay attention.”
>"I got to talk to you twice every time, Spirit 1300… Pay attention. Get off the iPad," the controller said in the audio.
I think your title is rather sensational and shitty, much like the pilots of Spirit 1300.

>>539455534
Mate it's the Daily Star, some brainless tabloid, the left wing version of the Sun.

>>539449985
F1 will go on sale this cycle, believe in baguette

>>539450976
Hopefully Microprose will save us from slavshit devs.

Assraping soviet subs really never gets old.
But this is getting kind of boring. If I didn't STILL regularly shoot myself by being too fast for my own torpedos this would literally be like clubbing baby seals in a bucket.

I play flight simulators because unlike train sims the gameplay is more exiting.

>>539465540
Haven't played for a while isn't the difficulty based on the mission, are there difficulty settings?

>>539467458
Plane: 3DOF
Car: 2DOF
Train: 1DOF

>>539469306
Human: 4DOF

>>539469306
Coma: 0DOF

>>539469650
Most humans are hylics and cannot access the fourth realm

>Razscam leaks deceptively edited footage of confidential communications with ED
>Using Heatblur the company everyone seems to like as a cudgel again as they have in every other leak they have given bozo
>Give false impression that ED will never work with heatblur again to try to cause panic in redditors
>Strategically timed to the release date of the mig-29 to do maximum damage to ED
Yeah I kinda want Rob Zambrano raped to death. This south american business warfare bullshit is incredibly gay.

>>539467458
When I flew to the Ascension Island in the King Air it was nearly 4 hours of flying in a straight line over the sea hoping I hadn't fucked it and could pick up the VOR.

NEW DRAMA
>NEW DRAMA
NEW DRAMA
https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSExposed/comments/1njkhdq/ed_vs_razbam_internal_zoom_call_leak_part_1/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSExposed/comments/1njmkat/ed_vs_razbam_internal_zoom_call_leak_part_2/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSExposed/comments/1njmldt/ed_vs_razbam_internal_zoom_call_leak_part_3/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSExposed/comments/1njmlwp/ed_vs_razbam_internal_zoom_call_leak_part_4/
apparently nick doesnt want to deal with heatblur. say goodbye to typhoon, f14ub, naval phantom, a6

>>539469843
/simg/ posters have been blessed with divine autism so we are at least psychics on our way to becoming pneumatics.

>>539469979
>intentional interference with contractual relations
ah my favorite tort

>>539469843
The M-346 is a conglomeration of artifacts which will grant you psychic powers beyond normal humans. Or you can manipulate time by going to sleep
>>539469963
Imagine doing that IRL. The open seas scare me.

>>539469979
is the top left guy someone from indiafoxtecho?

>>539470407
Imagine sitting in a fighter for eight hours flying over the sea, getting refuelled, pissing in a bag, shitting your pants, sounds awful.

>>539469979
Finally some more retardation.

>>539469979
>This 51 minute zoom call was confidential and took place in early March 2024. Since then, things have evolved in a significant way with Nick Dackard and our differences have been ironed out very satisfactorily. The working relationship with Heatblur is successful, professional and friendly.
Nineline debunked it pretty quickly, womp womp.

>>539470724
I genuinely never asked myself what they do if they have to shit. They'll probably eat MREs the day before. Those will clog you up for days in my experience.

Been doing some comparisons between DCS and IL-2. Picrel is Chartres Cathedral in IL-2 Normandy map. Looks legit to me. I like the consistency in IL-2.
DCS has got Paris... at 45 fps with an empty map, just my plane. The sun is a dot I can look straight into, yet the reflection on rooftops glow like Hiroshima. No idea what's up with the graphics in DCS. In all the YT vids they look awesome, but in game at 1440p high detail preset it looks like ass... No, actually it looks like Cliff of Dover most of the time with those bright toxic greens and the FPS shits the bed if you dare try and see the treed up close, which you shouldn't, cause they are ugly.

>>539470560
doubt it, he's probably someone from MCS

>>539470560
thats the CEO of ED Mission System
https://www.cymstar.com/news/press-releases/cymstar-announces-its-privileged-partnership-with-ed-mission-systems-to-offer-the-cymlite-mcs-training-system

>>539470961
iirc they plan their diet so they won't need one, but U-2 pilots wear nappies so they're probably shitting at 80,000ft

>>539470560
The indiafoxtechno bloke is called Mario from what I remember

>>539469979
>chile bought simulators from israel
>they don't work
lmao

>>539471742
>prepare for a 12 mission
>takeoff
>immediately shit yourself
>simmer in your own shit for the entire flight

>>539469979
Apparently Nick Gray also just received another 1m pounds to cover his debts from the TFC

>>539467562
There are difficulty settings, apparently they determine detection ability of enemies and your hull strength. Doesn't seem to do anything about the AI.
Mission are basically randomly generated, i.e. you might be lucky with a spawn, or be put right in the middle of a gank squad.
Right now I'm supposed to intercept some dudes in the North Sea. Four attempts so far; two of them were aborted early because I just couldn't find anyone, one I managed to kill one sub, but as it turned out there were three more and if you run after them, all they need to do is a turn and they send a million torps your way and I ate one. Those active sonar torps can be really annoying. Usually they send them to active way too far back so I will have simply passed them before they activate, but sometimes they get right into my face.
Soviet subs are nearly blind, but once they smell the blood, I'm in for a bad time.

>>539472735
call sign "bourguignon"

>>539472817
>POO RECOVER

>>539472905
You really don't want to fly inverted in that situation

>>539471084
I had a look in msfs 24 and they've actually got a model for the cathedral which is nice, they seemed to have gone a bit mad with the concrete out the front though.

>>539473117
At some point in history a piss bag has become detached during manoeuvres and gone everywhere.

>>539469843
There are still ways to sneak through.
*Snorts a kitchen knife bump of ketamine and does a whippit in your face*

>>539469979
NGL I actually have a lot more respect for nick now. I've never really heard him speak much but here he just kinda seems your normal boomer CEO. I feel like I've met this guy dozens of time desu.

>>539473529
let's hope it was from a cute female wso
>>539473773
I haven't bothered to read up too much on the razbam drama since I'm a steam player and I'm fucked anyway.
Every time some new info comes out it makes me symphatize with one, then the other, the the other one again. I just don't understand anything anymore.

>>539473773
yeah nick makes a lot of sense. if what rons saying is true that south american air forces were ready to buy their tucano, then he shoudlve put it on hold for a bit until the official contracts are ready the entire shitstorm couldve been avoided

>>539469979
>"enemies trying to shoot us down"
>"strict rules of engagement"
>more concerned with killing competition than improving core products
>1 hour of shaking down thirdparty devs for SDK fees
>"we like what you do but we don't like that we don't have a clear arrangement"
>"we feel a little bit put in a corner with a knife under our throat"
this sounds like a healthy company

>>539479715
>$150k per seat per year for SDK access
this is the whole fucking dispute, razbam can't afford it up front.
raz also fucked themselves over by taking a contract with ecuador at a loss or break-even for the tucano to gain technical access and break into the market.
they reserved a 15% cut for ED on the tucano contract in negotiations with ecuador, but that wasn't enough to cover ED's SDK fees.
ron alleges there was no license agreement with ED for the tucano at that point and the only version that existed and was shown to ecuador was a 3DS model developed with no SDK tools.
>"MCS is one thing, DCS is a completely different thing. we have not been paid for what we have done in DCS" per ron
nick is trying to claw back alleged SDK fees due for the A-29, cutting that out of any potential commission fees owed to razbam for landing the ecuador contract and also apparently holding their DCS revenues as leverage.
>"every single penny which was invested in the technology for ED mission systems came out of fuckwit's pocket here, every penny"
ED apparently doesn't consider any of these companies separate on their end

>people talking about DCS drama
Well that means the thread won't need bumping for a while at least

When 0.31 drops I will stop being a pussy and try PVP

>>539481707
ron structures his company where he has full ownership, but his products have "shareholders" and divide revenues among subcontractors.
the whole thing seems like a circle of contract hell.
>"if we can sign clearly with MCS, then there's no issue... but we do need to have very clear commercial arrangements with you"
ED also alleges that they haven't made any money on razbam's products in MCS.
raz apparently also gave shit away to the french without setting up proper contracts.
whole thing comes down to profit sharing disputes for commissions on military contracts won by third-parties.
>"what i'm doing is a form of leverage"
>"i think there's another part of the story, which is that everybody is ambitious and that everybody wants to get in on a potential good thing"
nick cites F15 timeline as being 3 years behind schedule, claims he would not have signed a razbam contract if he knew they wouldn't honor timelines
>"it's the same story i'm having right now with nick dackard... is because he doesn't respect the rules of the game and the timelines"
>"it's impossible to do business with him because he's permanently lying"
>"i'm very strict on these things with people and i give people chances, but had you said to me that you'll deliver in december of 2023 instead of december of 21 or whatever or whatever it was, mid 23, i never would've signed the contract with you"
nick claims ED would've just done the strike eagle themselves if they knew how long ron would take
>"i have been in business, doing more than 25 billion dollars worth of business in this weird part of the world which is eastern europe, and it's all been for one reason, and i haven't been shot in the head for it because we've honored our things and we continue to do so."
>"every single time somebody has tried to abuse me, they've paid a heavy price"
ron says don't worry about the MCS money, just asks them to pay them what they're owed for DCS.

>>539483428
Nick kinda sounds like a megalomaniac

>>539483428
the summary of wasting an entire hour listening to the threatening ramblings of a geriatric millionaire is that at least 50% of this is due to ron running his business like a fucking cowboy and ED was approaching and negotiating with them as if they were an actual legitimate company the entire time.

>>539483389
I haven't touched MP at all so far. I wanna try PVE but I refuse to use shitcord and I don't see the point doing MP without comms.

Aside from MiG-15s flown by russians, was chink/nork air power in the Korean War completely irrelevent? If it's historically accurate, I imagine it will just be a F-86 vs MiG-15 and UN ground pounding simulator

>>539488743
Bedcheck Charlie night raids in the Po-2 would be fun

>>539483389
Its really not that bad actually. Most people don't know what the fuck they're doing.

>>539470961
>>539471742
it's a low-residue diet, like old people eat before a colonoscopy.
someday you will learn.

>>539495593
After hurricane Irma I went a whole week without shitting because I couldn't shower since the power was out.

Is ED actually releasing a 3.5th gen fighter for REDFOR and a 5th gen fighter for BLUFOR?

>>539502438
To be fair that's IRL USSR/Russia's fault.

So until Chinks somehow do a 360° moonwalk and give out data for the J-10, J-11/15/16 and J-20, this is the best it's gonna get.

Be happy we have the Jeff as an actual modern REDFOR plane.

>>539495593
>The virgin low-residue diet vs. the Chad Buffet Blowout

>>539502920
it's still on ED for trying to be all things to all people instead of locking in and focusing on an era that can feasibly have parity in full fidelity simulation.
if they put half the effort of the F-35 into revamping trees for a proper vietnam, or fleshing out halfghanistan to do soviet 80s escapades, we might actually have a decent sim.
instead they're cowards who avoid the (mostly declassified) cold war period at all costs for some stupid slavic reason.
modern bvr is a trap, return to steam gauge kino

DCS is just a fucking disaster. On every other matter besides switchology it's a collection of half and quarter baked experiences with no cohesive vision.

>no Ignus map update
Pretty disappointed with that for how long this update is taking. Just fill in those ugly empty areas with some buildings please

>>539473117
What exactly does the envelope warning mean?

>>539506182
It's a cockpit simulator, it says so right there in the name. Go play Ace Combat 7 if you need your tailored anime bukkake experience or whatever.

>>539509236
It means you haven't mailed in your monthly aerobatic capabilities subscription check. 1980's technology, please understand.

>>539509236
Nah, just kidding. It means you have crossed from the greed to the yellow zone, in danger of entering orange. Red zone doesn't matter because you'll be dead.

>>539511406
>please deposit 20 cents for the next 3 minutes of controlled flight

>>539511669
Thanks. I tried a few different searches but nothing relevant came up.

>>539511184
not asking for that level of nippon lorebuilding autism or handholding arcadeslop, just need them to pick a damn era and stay consistent for a bit.
instead the best they can do is keep stacking modern blufor with fantasy youtube zoomer planes while occasionally shitting out pieces of a schizophrenic grandpa's half-remembered history channel version of a proper WW2 hangar

>boring menu music
Unforgivable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Gz8EZvnU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNIxbTrTXo

>>539511669
>>539509236
Technically in that webm I would've been here, it was a flight envelope warning from a low KEAS stall, if I was outside the flight envelope from overG/overspeed I would've gotten the MAX SPEED and RELEASE STICK warning. Usually a speed overg is hard to achieve since the FBW just goes
>nuh huh you'll only get 8Gs.

>>539506182
From yesterday videos my impression is that they only care about MCS and its related services, DCS is just a way for them to rake in extra money and get known.
MCS customers don't really care that it's a barren sandbox since they were alwasy going to make their own missions and scenarios by themselves. A dynamic campaign, balanced full fidelity modules between blue and redfor or QOL features only matter to civilian customers, which have no real modern alternative. Hopefully Falcon 5 will change things.

>>539502952
topkek

>>539495593
was the concept that you shit less (and get diverticulitis) if you eat low fiber foods a state secret in the 50s?

>>539533264
Fun fact, the Cuban Missile Crisis was actually avoided due to the soviets literally shitting themselves. The American scientists had discovered a way to avoid it (now a lost and forgotten technology in the US) and did everything they could to stop the soviets discovering it.

>>539533801
Battle of the bay of oats

finally posting works again.

>>539532531
What even happens if you enter the structural failure zone? Do the wings get torn off?

>>539536720
at the extreme ends yes, otherwise you'd have structural damage that could be so severe the airframe gets written off and scrapped. With FBW it's almost not an issue anymore.

>>539536624
DDoS attack?

>>539533092
>MCS customers don't really care that it's a barren sandbox
if nick stuck to managing MCS as its own company and spun the consumer side out into an independently managed entity like bohemia did with their milsim, the whole scene would be better for it overnight

>>539551684
>origami WW2 game
KINO

>get mission to patrol north sea to bust some diesel subs
>find four of them
>get bfto several times due to bad luck or being retarded (see also >>539472586)
>today is the day
>manage to kill two of them all while evading their and a third one's torps
>don't feel like hunting down the other two unless I happen to detect one of them again
>leave combat
>HURF DURF THIS WAS NOT YOUR MISSION
>realize I only have a handful of torps left, can't get to base in time to intercept what seems to be my *real* assigment
>reload last save, completely voiding all the pain and effort of the past two days
Fuck this fucking retarded mission design how the fuck can I know what my mission is if they all look same? Happened in the 1984 mission where they assigned me to a patrol spot to kill some ballistic sub, but nobody ever appeared there and then they told me I failed the mission. FUCK YOU!
At least that dude exploded very well.

>>539559303
Save more

>>539559381
How would that fucking help? Come here so I can give you an indian burn.

>>539559801
Bring it on, I can hear you from fucking miles away m8, you're cavitating.

>>539560718
Reminds me that I should try the bong campaign

>>539563361
>His airspeed and structural integrity: gone

>>539564123
Sadly accurate

It's so close

Are there tridem (like tandem but 3 instead of 2) cockpit planes? In a row, I mean

Is IL2 Dieppe dead? Havent heard about it in half a year

>>539568685
WW2 torpedo bombers come to mind.

This one was pretty tense.
I caught a group of 4, went on their tail. As I was about to close in on the last one, the second FROM THE FRONT actually managed to detect me because I was JUUUUST not in the baffles. Instantly hit silent running and made for evasion. He came right for me, but lost me again, so resumed his original path, after which I now had him rather isolated from the others AND in front of me.
Not shown was me sinking him.
Also not shown was me getting hit by my own torpedo coming back at me because I somehow missed sending it straight away, so it looped back when the wire broke and hit me.
Then I went to pursue the other three, but apparently one of them actually waited for me and sent a torpedo my way, which activated right in front of me. Had I not done any evasion and just went straight, it would have missed me.
But 1968 is getting really frustrating, because I spend like 20 minutes (with time compression) just looking for dudes and then this kind of shit happens.

>>539570529
Is the third guy there just for good company?

My local library is giving away a bunch of books to whoever wants them and I got a few that were aviation related. This one was a gem. Nice drawings and a lot of info.

>>539570735
He's there to relay messages between the pilot and rear gunner

>>539572539
lmao

>>539568685
WW2 torpedo bombers as mentioned as well as some later ASW planes

>>539574089
The Fairey Gannet which is one of my favourite planes has a cuck pod in the back

>>539575094
Yeah, that's a fairy alright

>>539575742
How dare you

Finally managed to sink three of them fuckers.
One escaped, but that's ok, just glad I managed to evade at least six torps.
Next up I got my first surface ship mission for this campaign.
I heard those are rather easy in 68 because nobody has sonar, so the plan is to get in and out before they know what's up.

>>539579952
Do you use the cruise missiles much?

>>539581238
Nope, especially since they don't exist in 1968.
But I get unguided torpedos instead

>>539579952
I used to play Dangerous Waters back in the day, what is this, and how does it compare to it?

>>539469979
It is confirmed that the Tucano doesn't exist beyond a 3d model, which wasn't made with any ED SDK.

It is confirmed that Razbam hadn't sold anything to anyone without a license, and that they didn't INTEND to sell anything to anyone without a license.

It is confirmed that Razbam didn't have MCS SDKs and did not have access to MCS, so they could not *possibly* sell or have sold anything on MCS.

nick grey explicitly states that he is illegally withholding Razbam's DCS pay to coerce them into signing a new contract with MCS.

nick grey's extortion scheme is justified SOLELY by his fear of the future POSSIBILITY of Razbam providing something to Ecuador in violation of contract. But Razbam HAD NOT provided anything in violation of contract, and the POSSIBILITY of a future violation cannot ethically be considered as justification for ED to seize Razbam's pay.

Ron rightly stood on principle that ED needed to fulfill their obligations under the existing contract before he would sign a new one

Ron rightly points out that ED's actions were abusive of the other Razbam workers, because it was holding their money hostage to coerce Ron into a contract that had NOTHING to do with those workers.

Razbam is under zero legal obligation to sign an MCS contract. None. They just cannot sell any modules to government entities if they do not sign an MCS contract- and yet, nick grey makes it clear that they MUST sign an MCS contract, or they will not get their DCS money (again, in violation of contract), and

nick grey literally theatens Ron with death: he says that people in his industry who do not deliver on their promises "get a bullet in their head", and in the same breath promises that anyone who opposes him "suffer a heavy penalty". That's an explicit threat.

Tomorrow, finally.

>>539579952
Not directly related, but now i wanna play Uboat.

>Fixed Blurry Sepia Night Lighting: Corrected night lighting to remove excessive bloom, and sepia masking - cities and surrounding land will appear darker and more realistic.
Traffic
New SU4 beta update, will have to check this tomorrow as I'm going to bed now.

>>539588238
>remove excessive bloom, and sepia masking
Hallelujah

The Fulcrum's ergonomics are hilarious. HOTAS is alien technology.

I can't believe no KGB spy ever told Mikoyan-Gurevich that pretty much every Western fighter by the 70's had an ACM or a Sidewinder button somewhere on the throttle or stick. Here you take your hands off and flip switches and knobs in completely different places.

Imagine a car that doesn't have steering column stalks. Turn indicator is a rotary switch on the door, wipers are a button you have to keep depressed on the center console, clutch is a switch that you have to flip up so you can shift and then flip back down to connect, also on the center console, and the headlight are a pedal you have to hold down. Also no speedo or tacho, just two lights that say "overspeed" and "overrev".

That's about how the Mig-29 feels.

>>539593102
Hum actually we call that soul, you capitalist dog.

oops

>>539594371
Based Spintires enjoyer. Or it is Mudrunner ?

>HSI seems bugged
>nobody on the server knows wtf I'm talking about because everyone is a hot-start pleb.

>>539594774
Hell yeah. Its Mudrunner. I forgot how kino this game can look.

>>539593102
Yeah exactly my thoughts. Useful buttons that need to be accessed easily without taking your hands off the stick? Of course! We'll put a guarded switch to drop the fuel tanks on the fucking flight stick. I'm sure that's the most important thing of all.

>>539594969
>hot-start pleb
I honestly couldn't care less about having to properly flip the correct (non simulated) switches.
Learning what everything does in the jet is good, but after 1 or 2 cold starts it's useless and boring.

>>539593102
I remember being in a lecture from an american pilot who flies a flogger, basically all cold war jets have no real tought behind the placement of switches and instruments, only what was easier for the engineers during development.

>>539597959
I read about the first time American fighters did a friendly visit in a Warsaw Pact country, when Aviano F-16's visited a Hungarian Mig-23 squadron in 1990 (from the Hungarian perspective).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weAy1JKqUIw

Again, this was the first time ever something like this happened. When the Hungarian Flogger pilots saw the F-16's cockpit they were shocked. When the American Viper pilots saw the Mig-23's cockpit, they were also shocked.

Also there was a bit of an incident. When the F-16's crossed into Hungarian airspace, they were supposed to meet with the Floggers and fly in in formation. Ground-control had trouble finding them (again, first time imperial NATO and metric WP met), so the Flogger pilots had the bright idea to find them with their radar and lock on to them to get a BRA on them. Bit of a scare.

Sim recc for a poor retard with no skills or money?

>>539601364
Nuclear Option is good on a gamepad. Major update in less than 12 hours

>>539304353
That's a huge bitch!

>>539593102
you should barely ever be touching the throttle in an ideal scenario, just learn to do shit in the cockpit lefthanded

Correction: 4 hours.

>>539602252
I gave that a go earlier today actually and it was enjoyable but the lack of real planes puts me off when it shouldn't, I'll keep playing it though

>>539593102
Skill issue.

>>539603318
the equipment is real world in a blender, but the tactics are realistic and will teach you useful skills for the big-boy sims

Viva los Biodome.

>>539607756
What's with the architectural boner raging out of the roof?

>>539608361
Observation tower as part of the living quarters.

>>539181742 (OP)
based run8

>>539604496
The main thing nuclear option has taught me is that nothing is more effective than going into a 90 degree dive from 18000 meters to divebomb something.

>>539618821
there are really only 2-3 SAM systems on either side that can hit you that high, not as dumb as it looks with no A2A threats

0.31 dropped.

I'm guessing the troops are just for capturing bases

>>539488743
nork yaks strafed some airfields early in the war

>>539621670
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2168680/view/544494894020821228?l=english
Fuck you i was going to post this

So far nothing too terribly game breaking. IFF not working in MP is not great, and the RWR is next to useless since it can't filter sources and is just screaming at you at all times, but otherwise its good. Week one patch oughta iron out those.
>>539452137
My theory is they shit-canned razbam so they wouldn't have to compete with a better developed mig-23.

It's up

>>539622559
>RWR is next to useless since it can't filter sources and is just screaming at you at all times
I expect my RWR to be beeping constantly. If it isn't I assume it's broken.

PALA confirmed to be basedpup users

Ibis in clean config can go near 500kph

>>539622554
>Concept Stage: VR Implementation
See you guys in a year.

>>539585379
Cold Waters. I haven't played Dangerous Waters, but from what I can gather it's less simulation-y. There's no inside view or stations or anything, firing solutions are automatically generated depending on TMA quality; that can also automatically identify contacts provided there's enough information, but you can also identify them by yourself through sonar profiles. Detection and ASW play a big role; been raped a bunch of times by RBU and other assorted nasties.
Sometimes you need to evade fast and precise torpedos, and for that the outside view is a godsend.
Again, I haven't played DW, so I can't say what else is different.

>>539599465
>so the Flogger pilots had the bright idea to find them with their radar and lock on to them to get a BRA on them. Bit of a scare
Lmao

>>539181742 (OP)
Why is there no cheap ir tracker? Isn't that fucking wii technology.

>>539643367
There's freetrack and you can build the headpieces yourself.

>>539643696
What just clip a sensor on a hat?

>>539643856
Also possible

I wonder if all of the HUD graphics are raster scan, or if the numerals are like Soviet-equivalent Nimo-tubes or some shit.

Nobody has seen a Mig-29 HUD-unit teardown before? I always have a suspicion these primitive HUD's aren't just a single CRT, but some wacky hybrid system.

Is there a dcs youtuber with a more irritating voice that Spudnocker?

>Carenado releases the original Cessna 172 for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
I forget how old the 172 actually is

>>539588238
>>539590028
It looks a lot better, this is Milan.

>>539650090
Not sure what the glowing spots are, they need to fix that, but other than that a great improvement rather than just big blobs everywhere, this is London.

>>539650460
L O N D O N

>>539650090
>>539650460
346 anon and a yak130 fan are about to meet

>>539651159
>346 and a yak130
They're the same plane

>The UK's last flying Lancaster bomber is to undergo months of maintenance meaning it will not feature in air displays next year.
It's over, the Germans have won.

>>539651363
>the 2 lights merge and chase you

>>539651159
>>539650090

>>539652269
The final battle is in Vegas, that yellow blob isn't the sphere, it's someone going super saiyan. Also look out how weird a grid-based city looks at night.

>>539651363
How dare you
>>539652757
Yeah, american cities always have that weird square grid design. Kinda looks cool

>>539568685
B-58
Pilot, Navigator and tail gunner/defensive ECM

>>539646890
too many, but most at least have good content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9oxV7PncU

>>539622559
>IFF not working in russian plane
just like in real life

>>539656664
Judging by what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan I don't think it worked for the Americans either

There are rumours MSFS 2024 could come to PS5

What are some decent alternatives (preferably free) for headtracking? Currently I'm using DroidCam Classic on my shitty phone (free version) with OpenTrack and NeuralNet Tracker, but it desyncs A LOT.

>>539662508
https://smoothtrack.app/
This, the app costs something like £4, I'd recommend following the guide to have it wired otherwise there's a bit of lag.

>>539662595
Damn it's like 67 BRL in my pieace of shit longhoused chud incel bankrupt country...

>>539663391
I saw a hue moaning about SSD prices the other day, you lot pay loads for anything tech related. There are free alternatives but will require setup, if you have a webcam you can just use that with OpenTrack.

>>539662595
I used this app until I got VR, it's really good and even works in reasonable darkness. You do need to install the iTunes app to connect it to the computer for some reason, but that's probably just a general Apple/IPhone thing

>>539663772
>You do need to install the iTunes app to connect it to the computer
Just realized this sounds a bit ambiguous I meant you need to install iTunes on your computer

>>539663676
Yeah. A 2tb NVME gen 3x4 SSD is like 850 BRL. Our minimum wage is 1.518 BRL.
A mid range PC here is like 4.500 BRL.
Please nuke this government. I can't stand it anymore.

>>539664136
>Our minimum wage is 1.518 BRL.
per what

>>539664249
Its not a fraction. Our currency is BRL (or reais). 1 us dollar equals like ~5.2 reais

>>539664348
have you tried doing onlyfans

>>539664348
PER
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>>539664652
Per lifetime

>>539664652
Sorry saar we ern 1.5 rupees per gift card so aproxmiantely 3 ruppee per month

>>539623453
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/379102-detect-launches-of-sarh-missiles-on-spo-15

apparently its working as intended

>>539665663
i don't know who is worse, dcs players who think dcs is the most realistic thing ever you have to call me captain! Or those who want "balance" in a simulator. Even fucking War Thunder balances the game by match ups instead of giving fake capabilities (fligh model aside) to planes.

>>539665958
WT has the benefit of having a bajillion different planes across multiple eras. In DCS the closest thing we have to a both time period and "gameplay" balance is the F-86F vs MiG-15bis, and even then the sabre has to be stopped from taking sidewinders.

>>539666262
How cancerous is DCS multiplayer in general?

>>539662508
just use opentrack with a non-shit 60fps+ wired webcam. latency is going to fuck up any and every app-based solution.
if you're on thirdie hardware it will be hard on your cpu but probably still better than whatever you're using now.
if you can't find a good webcam, there are plenty of tutorials to diy irtrack with a few leds, a coat hanger, a floppy disk, and a usb cable.

>>539666262
Exactly, the only balance DCS should receive is in terms of the available FF modules.
>>539666376
It's basically 99% F-16/F-18 SPAMRAAM.

>>539666376
>spend 15 minutes programming JDAMs
>spend another 30 minutes flying to target area
>some other player already destroys all your JDAM targets by the time you get there

>>539666376
Entirely dependent on the server/players you come up against. Some days I get awesome dogfights and furballs on niggmas cold war and on others some of the dumbest and most unaware people I've ever seen. Typically the more modern (ie, popular) the server gets, the more retarded the players. Maybe it's just bias since I'm a redfor guy, but the blue players always seem to be the worse ones despite of all the advantages they get in their more modern aircraft.

>>539666640
Which sounds fine, until you realize just how long it takes for one module to be released just in early access, with multiple years of development to get it feature complete. And since DCS aims for the most realism, each FF aircraft is so specific to one model that there's basically no overlap between any of them. I love the Mirage F1, but the variants we get in game are all Spanish, when did Spain ever use F1s in combat again? That's right, never. So instead we dress them up as Iraqi variants and fly them over Syria.

>>539668113
Is the F1 even out of early access?

>>539668113
>And since DCS aims for the most realism
nta, but not really. DCS used the "muh realism" only as an excuse for missing features, they had no problems adding unrealistic stuff for the block if it was easy to do. With the F-16 they even used the excuse of "we're modeling a particular squadron whithin the USAF, that's why it's missing X" until they got bullied into implementing it.
Same with other devs like HB with them wanting to make a mix mash of EF versions

>>539668379
Nope, there's still the F1M and a radar rework coming. Maybe some new weapons, but aside from that its in a pretty good state.

>>539668558
yeah I shoulda put realism in quotes, I meant to imply that the pursuit of it was pointless in a pvp environment.

>Russian warplanes have violated Estonian airspace, the foreign ministry in Tallinn has said, condemning the incursion as "brazen".

>It said three Russian MiG-31 fighter jets "entered Estonian airspace without permission and remained there for a total of 12 minutes" on Friday over the Gulf of Finland.

>>539668558
I remember them saying they won't add the AIM-120D because our version of the F-16 was made before the D variant of the Amraam was made.. like nigga what kind of retarded logic is that just say you're lazy or at use the fairness excuse

>>539666376
redfor coldwar is peak.
the more blue, modern, and organized you get, the more retarded the players

>>539669760
>As of August 1, 2025, the Italian Air Force officially took over the mission from Portugal at Ämari Air Base in Estonia. This marks the start of Operation Baltic Eagle III, Italy’s third deployment to Estonia following previous missions in 2018 and 2021
I wish a pasta would.

>>539669760
>>539671482
I am honestly not too thrilled at the prospect of ww3. I already dreamt of a nuclear war 2 times this year and I have a record for my dreams being more accurate than I would like.

>>539671997
Don't worry about it

>>539671482
>>539671997
>The Italians have been tasked to prevent WW3
We're doomed

>>539672231
Give me an M-346 and I'll win WW3 alone.

>>539646890
I'd say Got Space Games probably has the most annoying voice. Spudknocker just sounds like a corn farmer or something.

>>539673087
>>539563361

>>539673472
it's just taking a nap.

>no range
>barely any weapons
>primitive avionics
Will the Mig-29 become boring pretty fast?

>>539674427
Probably, you would need cool campaigns, autism or servers which ban fox3s

>>539674427
>HMS and IRST in 1980s
>best Fox-1 AND Fox-2 of its era
>best low speed high AOA dogfighter of its era
This thing will dominate in cold war servers (Mostly due to the fact we don't have things like the F-16A/F-15A to go against it).
also
>primitive avionics
>boring
as opposed to another aircraft with 3 mfds?

>>539674427
>this post was made by F-35 schizo

>>539675912
I was under the impression f35 schizo hated the f35

>>539674427
>no range
it was really stupid to do a version that isn't AAR capable.

>>539676098
no it's the exact opposite

>/simg/
>the home of simulation games, autists, and schizos

>>539676528
have you ever met a joystick owner that isn't at least a little bit autistic?

>>539676212
It was really stupid to make this post. Soviet variants don't have that capability, only the most modern russian or other third-world variants have it. They wont do any modern russian jets for fear of breaking their laws, and no one wants a mig the poos have gotten their hands on.

>>539677981
>They wont do any modern russian jets for fear of breaking their laws
I thought they weren't based in Russia anymore, can't they just ignore their laws? I think a lot of western countries don't even enforce these Russian laws because of sanctions and shit

>>539678278
Their address is in switzerland, but all their devs are still in russia

>>539674427
The Vietnamese were dead set on buying this thing for their fleet, solely by it carrying mig name since they basically fought the Vietnam air war entirely with MiGs, only to have cold feet on the last second and went for Su-27 instead. It's a testament to how absolutely garbage the 29 is.

>>539680189
>there are better options so its shit
its the final evolution in a long line of point defense fighters and not a do-it-all multirole, which it was never meant to be. For its intended purpose it excels, but what it was made for is not what every prospective customer wants/can afford.

>everyone excited for mig 29
>everyone knows damn well what the mig 29 is capable of and isn't
>it comes out
>everyone hates it

>>539680808
I don't think people here were that excited, also I don't think the idea of something being in early access for years got anyone excited either.

>>539680808
>everyone
>everyone
>everyone
reddit mentality

>>539628739
>a year
lol, lmao

>>539675771
>Fulcrumschizo ramblings

>>539693801
Is that a nuke?

>>539695630
Technically yes. it's the sun

80k feet in Xplane12

>>539677981
most of what we have in the sim are the monkey models, retard.
if you can only model export versions of everything you might as well pick good ones.
they're doing a eurofighter and F35 for fuck's sake, at least throw us a couple of subvariants like the F1 has so it's not completely useless in modern combat.

>>539698047
80k feet IRL

>>539698334
Imagine sitting there thinking
>this is my fucking job

>>539698542
knowing I'll never be at that altitude genuinely depresses me.

>>539698292
>pick good ones
>only options with AAR are indian and malaysian
hmmm me thinks you are the retard little basedboi who can't handle a based cold war superstar.

>>539698292
>monkey models
Name one that isn't the F1.

>>539698292
Where did you get that picture of me?

Are you guys running the Full-Cum on metric or imperial?

Also it's probably going to remain a dream, but Ukrainian HARM integration would be kino.

Should I get one? Right now all I got is a 1950's Swiss Landeron-movement chrono.

>refuse to lock at 9nm head on
>refuse to lock at 6nm head on
>refuse to lock at 3nm flanking
>refuse to lock
>refuse to lock
>lose bandit
>take missile to face
Peak slavshit engineering.

Now I understand this meme even more.

>>539711064
what red really needs is the mig-25

>>539712091
Seething sour grapes bunkertranny image tho.

>>539712884
Buzzwordy buzzy buzz buzzword post doe

>>539712884
Learn to not get offended by meme pics, snowflake.

>>539707565
I keep all my cockpits in their original languages
>remain a dream
nah, Contention already has the .lua hack to put it on the FC3 29, only a matter of time before its done for the FF.

cant

>NO 0.31 and DCS MiG-29 both released
>still having to bump from page 10
You guys suck

>>539722483
its because people actually play

>>539722483
simboomer autism can't compete with the tsunami of gacha slop

>>539181742 (OP)
After a 4+ year hiatus and because none of my friends want to vidya anymore, I'm finally playing ATS again. Still runs like shit in some big cities, but looks a lot better than I remember, and the mods have improved significantly... satiates the loneliness so far.

>>539680808
It's not the MiG-29's fault for being from the 80's, it's ED's fault for giving us the 2000's versions of the US 4th gens. F-16A vs MiG-29A would have been peak but erectile dysfunction has no long term planning skills and just chases the most modern versions possible. Everything would be great right now if they just had made the A variants of the F-15, F-16, A-10 and Apache and made the modern versions later.

>>539698682
Cheer up anon, there's always doing deliveries for doordash if you need some excitement!

Go my son!

>>539735870
H-he's fast!

>>539731068
they chase what they or their third-party devs have access and legally-obtained documentation to, with no real strategy or overarching plan to develop the environment as a consumer gaming experience.
half of the sim only exists to satisfy military contracts for specific airframes, and the other half only exists to separate westoids from their currencies.

>>539643367
opentrack with neuralnet tracker as input.
It's literally free

>>539648126
Wouldn't it make more sense if it were like one that rolled off the production line straight into a museum? You can fly a beat up old plane with upgraded avionics in real life.

bump

>>539731068
The F-14A and early Mirage 2000 exist in the game and they prove that the 9.12 is just primitive.

>>539748241
good improvement, now they should just add variations to the light colors

>>539758182
I don't usually defend slavshit but:
-The F-14 is a heavy fighter and for its time was probably the most expensive non-prototype/demonstrater aircraft to buy and operate anywhere on earth, you could probably buy multiple MiG-29s for the price of one Tomcat
-The Mirage 2000 we have in game is one of the later pre 2000-5 variants, it's a few years newer than the -29A, and it's not an export variant like the in the game -29A
Anyway operating the MiG-29 like a Western 4th gen is gonna get you wrecked everytime because it was a point defense fighter that always operated under strict control of GCI, the onboard radar was really just for the final stages of an engagement, not start-to-finish

>>539761924
>-The Mirage 2000 we have in game is one of the later pre 2000-5 variants, it's a few years newer than the -29A, and it's not an export variant like the in the game -29A
Peak ChatGPT hallucinationbabble.

I mapped "missile launch" to the side button, because that's closest to where the trigger was on the real thing. The red pickle button is the "drop track" button, because that's closest to where it was on the real Fulcrum.

Autistic, yes or no?

>>539764854
Yes.
Which is a good thing.

>>539707565
>Also it's probably going to remain a dream, but Ukrainian HARM integration would be kino.
What is this obsession with minuscule features? Do people really buy something and excuse the overall mediocrity just to be able to do one specific thing? How can firing a single missile be a reason to buy a product?

>>539768635
Are you schizophrenic?

>>539748241
Great comparison

>>539764854
>posts in /simg/
yes

>>539761924
>a point defense fighter that always operated under strict control of GCI
the real reason nobody plays redfor in MP is that all of the soviet fighters suck to fly without a competent human GCI

bump

>>539764854
wrong, the red pickle button is for canceling the auto pilot, I would center press one of the hats for drop lock.

>>539764854
>>539779863
And its crazy you wouldn't spring the extra ~$40 for the extra features like the second trigger, which would help a lot in these bindings.

>>539783596
love silvias me

>>539770713
damn am I gonna have to reinstall SRS? Not looking forward to that.

>>539783596
>>539783845
>>539784034
https://streamable.com/ridjem

What flight sim or DCS module would you guys recommend if I like Cold War and don't want to do dogfighting missions? I've only been getting into combat flight sims, and won't be able to afford a head tracker for a long time, so evading missiles and such will probably be hemorrhoidal.

>Pavel is apparently working on a new Spintires game
>will finally support tracked vehicles
Holy based. The king is back. Mudrunner/Snowrunner and other spin offs are cool, but they don't have the true Spintires soul.

>>539791515
Viggen is the best non A2A cold war aircraft in DCS, probably one of the best strike fighters of its time. The one we have in game is difficult to do well in in a dogfight, and excels at hit and run on static ground targets.

PSA, if you have to dump fuel before landing remember to stop doing so at some point.

>>539797719
Makes for a fine boat if you ask me

>>539791515
Flaming Cliffs for the Su-25A and the A-10A. Flankers make decent bomb trucks as well.
For full-fidelity, Viggen or Mirage F1.
The free headtracking solutions are all better than having nothing, put in the time and figure one out.

Tried some warbids stuff in DCS, but my God! Is this engine complete ass or what. At medium-high detail I get like 45 FPS over Normandy and that's with 9700X, 32 gigs and 9060XT. Game says I'm GPU-bound. Lowering anything that's intensive on the GPU makes the game look like complete dogshit. This shit used to run way better on my previous PC a few years ago. Fuck it, I'm back to IL-2. The graphics are amazing, there's some artistic style to it that some may not like, but man, nothing beats flying in cloudy weather, when suddenly the skies clear and the sun starts shining through.

>>539792964
Based, I loved Spintires/Mudrunner. I bought Snowrunner ages ago but I still haven't got round to playing it, I see there's tonnes of DLC, is any of it worth getting?

>get mission to return to Holy Loch for repair and rearming
>upon returning to Holy Loch immediately get next assignment, despite repairs and rearming still to be done
>after repair and rearming mission timer is alread expired
Like what fucking retard actually came up with this system and what kind of utter imbecile greenlit it? It doesn't make any fucking sense and just artificially prolongs the campaign (not that I don't still have a long way to go anyway).

>>539801560
>32 gigs and 9060XT
normandy is poorly optimized, but your machine is marginal for making the sim itself look good.
if you want oohs and aahs, (at least) double your RAM and upgrade the card.
you may end up deciding to get into VR and ending up right where you are again after that, though.

>>539306819
You'll buy the T-7 and be happy.

>>539808431
Isn't that programme a bit of a shitshow?

>>539808494
No more than similar projects

>>539808431
>>539808590
>No more than similar projec-ACK
>USAF T-7A Red Hawk Production Phase Pushed Back to 2026
Buying american in the current political climate is absurd.

>>539808231
>you may end up deciding to get into VR and ending up right where you are again after that, though.
Nah, it doesn't seem worth it. For WWII stuff, IL-2 offers a whole lot more than DCS, and for jets, the dynamic campaign from BMS just owns everything. Honestly, the only thing DCS has going is choppers and attention to cockpit detail, but that gets boring fast, once you learn how things work.

>>539809057
cope

>>539809057
>>539808431
So, which is going to be?

>>539811019
This

>>539811951
Kino

>>539379829
i believe the image you posted is for tandem-rotor aircraft. for >>539376901 picrel i believe is more accurate. remember that the rotor and blades are imparting a "spin" to the aircraft already. the second set of blades spinning in the opposite direction negates that "spin". so if you want to perform yaw on a co-axial helicopter, like the one depicted in >>539374756, you need to reduce the effective spin one of the the two sets of blades applies (by reducing speed of one set or by reducing pitch). for more information i found this stack exchange answer that covers this perfectly: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/22707/how-does-a-helicopter-rudder-work

>>539797719
>Amphibious SR-71
Fund it.

>>539809251
>the only thing DCS has going is choppers
the annoying part is that the choppers are good but everything you use them for is trash.
even with the hacked-together ctld stuff, ground units don't really move independently, interact with each other, or react to players in a realistic way.
after mastering the initial challenge of getting around without exploding, it just becomes a cardboard cutout target practice game.
ground combat needs a total overhaul for rotor ops to really be enaging

>Contention "balance"
Bluforbabies would never play the game again if they had their godmode avionics taken away.

>>539817835
>remember that the rotor and blades are imparting a "spin" to the aircraft already. the second set of blades spinning in the opposite direction negates that "spin".
Yeah, i knew that but somehow i fucked up posting that pic even after checking it 2 times

>>539748241
I have to interest to fly over dubai unless I can drop ordinance on it.

>>539804081
Most of the DLC are new maps. If you enjoy the game and want more they are worth grabbing, but there is a shitload to do in the base game maps as it is so I'd suggest playing through them first.

>>539797719
How does that happen?

>>539764854
thanks for posting an image where none of said buttons are visible
nice to see your trigger is red I guess

>>539824621
Okay, level 5 anon.

So, I took the MIG-29A for a spin in multiplayer. Apart from main gyro not working (have ot use the standby one when you cold starting), it's a fun fly. SPO-15 is complete garbage, and main radar is so shitty, that it's actually a chalenge to use it properly. Can't wait to fly it again.

>>539827010
Hot-start for now if the server allows it. Also reminder that you don't have IFF in multi, so make sure to positive ID.

longhoused

>>539827010
>SPO-15 is complete garbage, and main radar is so shitty
Correct as is.

>>539827010
>Apart from main gyro not working
Is this a multiplayer specific bug? I cold started it with no issue in SP, but I've just been hot starting it on contention with no problem as well.

>>539830708
What do these numbers even mean though? What RCS is the target? Is this with or without ground clutter? Is the limiting factor radar power, sensitivity, or the view range of the instrument its connected to?

>>539801560
>there's some artistic style to it that some may not like,
It always seemed washed out to me.

>>539831603
my guess is max lock range, not accounting for target RCS or ground clutter.

she can take a beating.

Unrelated, did the update change the AI in some way? I was playing Escalation as BDF to dick around with the Ibis so I guess I wasn't exactly helpful but PALA was absolutely cleaning house.

>>539839338
forgot pic