Thread 539227219

they hate you edition

>Demo Days
Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>539136130

I don't know if my game should be free or $3

>>539227318
Post your game and I'll tell you what it's worth.

>>539227219 (OP)
So this is what it feels like to be marginalized and discriminated against. I have a lot of things to think over.

sending good vibes to all lolidevs

>>539227470
retard

>>539227219 (OP)
Gamedevs and Palestinians are the most oppressed groups in 2025, not the LGBT and Black women as medias would have you believe.

>>539227439
can I do a twofer? I also want to put up inochicules but more leaning toward free for that one.

So many of these are gonna leave us and go to NextFest…

>>539227219 (OP)
welcome to our clown world, where the hardest working members of society get scraps while nepobabies and VC execs get everything

>>539227759
Once a dev succeeds they leave, simple as.

Blessing this thread

>>539227843
marmo is still here though

>>539227759
They're going to be there next time just like the past 63 DDs. Dirk especially.

https://youtu.be/xrKgdFV923o?si=T61LXEEJ3q8YG_Io

Mongol 2 v 0.0.1.

Doing the sound work for my game right now, can you guys tell me if these sounds "fit"?

https://files.catbox.moe/mvqdak.webm

Man bokusimp was fucking furious last thread huh
Maybe if his game sold 40k copies he wouldn't
Oh right, he doesn't even have a game lol

>>539227719
If you polished the interfaces and designs you could easily sell your FTL clone somewhere between $5 and $10. Just make sure you got some good music to go along with it.

>>539227946
you can't hear sounds in space

>>539227807
>Gabe makes games cheaper

1 hour of playtesting, 1 hour of dev, 1 hour of playtesting, 1 hour of dev
this endless cycle of dev, i will never reach nirvana as long as the bugs keep coming

>>539227472
thats not good vibes at all you're posting a terrible game latching into other loli games popularity

>>539227946
Needs battle music

Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.
About 700 games in the week around your release.
AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.
Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)

Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."

Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.

>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025
Hahahahaha

H O B B Y
O
B
B
Y

>>539228119
You cant rotate apples either

>>539227946
Nice, make the laser sound more powerful

>>539227946
this is sick, the sound is good but the graphics and UI are great.
>>539227439
>>539227719
see, I would pay for vidrel, but I think it may just be me.

>>539228232
at least you got to play a bit. I made the fundamentals of my game and spent the last 5 years making visual assets

https://steamdb.info/app/3602290/charts/

this is the most popular steam nsfw game released in the last 9 months, what can we learn from this?
i feel disgusted sharing the platform with these freaks

>>539228082
>good music
I have a lot of music, but it's mostly not very good.
https://vocaroo.com/1jmlVy7hsPNF

>>539227946
its ok. for sound references, use descent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuMBYZrcQfU

>>539227843
I'll never leave (because I wont be successful, I want to leave)

>>539228606
dont neglect the female gamer base

Loliposting, Ericposting, crying about Steam/Gabe posting, 100 games a day posting, great thread start guys. Any other ritual posts we need to get out of the way?

>>539228606
>AI generated slop lgtb porn is now winning on steam
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

how do just like make game fun?

>>539229140
the pedophile posting nepobaby barone is the same freak posting the CSAM
it comes from shartdew tranney general, a dead pedo thread

>>539228606
Go back

>>539229107
its made by a slavix faggot for other slavix and asixns faggots tough
"made" is a big word considering that its AI slop
>>539229298
ok, defender of faggot slop, you surely arent reddit

>Northernlion got a new PC and will no longer be interested in playing my lightweight Roguelike Deckbuilder few months from now
it's so over for me

>>539228606
shut the fuck up fygoon

>>539229597
>fygoon outta nowhere
yep, it's 'cord

n-gon

>>539227219 (OP)
>>539228606
i felt like charlie kirk when silksong pricing was released

>>539228606
we already saw that AI generated femboy slop did surprisingly okay before. Still not all that great but it meant AI could at least succeed if only once
(the game was shit, AI generated doesn't mean lots of content, real lazy shit)

>>539228071
He's so mad that trainwiz made it and then denies it.
It's crazy how every confirmed crab is either mentally ill or has the shittiest game possible (like that other spacefag)

>>539230340
its literally made by am israeli russian wegger

>>539230456
nanite will fix that

>>539230467
yeah, weg has extremely, extremely low standards. There are amateur drawn games that look like michelangelo by comparison.
I think people into entry level fetishes like "femboy" it means they've yet to develop taste and will take any slop they can get.

I just realized I can make a massive H JRPG if I kept everything under rpg maker 2003 sprites, and make the H custcenes be 150x150 pixel sprites like Marvel 2.

>>539231012
all of this is true

GMI

:: Hirdrih Technologic ::
progress :: A vague idea of what Leon may look like, even if this is just a test.
Want the game to look different from Nortubel outside of some images in the potential art gallery.

>>539231616
DIE

me? im the art director, main artist, main composer, product manager, senior prompt engineer, HR, marketing manager, and writer of my game.

>>539231616
>:: Hirdrih Technologic ::
>progress :: A vague idea of what Leon may look like, even if this is just a test.
>Want the game to look different from Nortubel outside of some images in the potential art gallery.
An actual "ingame" test, I even used some other people's art just to see stuff like the resolution and how complex TileMapLayer is.
Also a preview of the main title image.

>>539230197
KEKYPOW
i think you can still sell at that price
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2853590/Void_War/

>>539231798
wtf that's all the positions I'm working in

And done, anyone has idea how to create heightmap for light effect?

is this nigga for real?

you're a stupid retard if you don't include online multiplayer functionality in your game

>>539233051
bing normal maps nortubro (sorry about eric schizo going insane on you)

Did someone say Project Negrosmell?

>>539233184
Bokusimp you need to have a game first

project CHADtubel + the frydarian's tale + bokube + kaliina (DEBUG) + my secret game = you will be DOMINATED

>>539226769
I just looked up what decorators are and my only current conclusion is that Python is a nonsensical puzzle language made up of gaslighting and bullshit.

>>539233723
Skill issue.

>>539233691
'cord fears this btw

:: Hirdrih Technologic ::
progress :: If Nortubel had the companion system, Hirdrih will have magic mouse/cursors that allow you to interact with some objects in levels.

>need to use call_deferred when working with progress bars or else you risk getting a wrong value because fuck you
Godot never ceases to amaze me. I still curse the day I used this instead of pretty much anything else.

https://x.com/tsoding/status/1967579374535999544

bevy bros the future of the language looks grim

Just got my second laser hair I'm toga almost.

>>539227472
Vibes received.

>>539233723
it's just shorthand for using a function that returns a function
python's first-class functions is one of the only decent things about it. I don't mind the meaningful whitespace garbage as much now that there's good tools that deal with it for me, but that made me despise the language many years ago.
Now I think it's "fine", and the reality is that it won the interpreted language space, so it is what it is and my feelings about it don't matter.
I liked ruby more though

>>539234371
Are you still an outspoken pedo?
When's the last time you drank and rode your motorcycle?

https://noclip.website/
https://play.projectprismatic.com/
https://playcanv.as/e/p/44MRmJRU

Ok, I'm dropping UE5 to become a WebGL chad. Where do I start?

>>539233723
OOP in a nutshell

>>539230372
>(like that other spacefag)
SALVO?

>>539228659
fvark cris won

Making music is not gamedev.
A game can (and often is) played with music turned off, so it's at best peripheral to gamedev.

>>539235157
No there was some shitty looking underspacelike that hated his game and was also a moderator for a homestuck discord

>>539233691
Working on the holy c bindings for raylib atm

>>539234694
Start with Pong.

No music is always better than bad music

All spacefags are mentally ill

>>539235849
well, silence tends to be oppressive depending on the game, so generic filler music > silence > bad

>>539227934
Nine verbs point and click game section.

>>539234694
stay out of web you annoying retarded piece of shit zoomer that uses retarded annoying fucking terms. leave the general too

>>539235754
having a bad day?

I just watched a documentary called Dominion (2018), and I gotta say...

We must put gamers through all that.

>>539227219 (OP)
How do you justify increasing prices for a good that exists in infinite supply? It is not like little Timmy has to go down in the video game mines and risk catching the green lung to meet demand.

>>539235627
>homestuck fans seethe over the superior game (deltarune)
>space fans seethe over the superior game (underspace)
Makes sense

>>539236104
good games keep decreasing in supply, and gamers always need fresh new experiences, so games are perishable in some sense

>>539236042
uhh, no. WebGL is bussin fr bro

i wonned

>>539236104
by spending more money on the game itself
obviously a AAA game has millions of dollars put into the visuals so it's reasonable to charge more
(the price is not based on supply vs demand, since it's art, so instead it's priced so that at a certain amount of sales it can make a profit)

>>539231835
That's a nice minimalist style.

>>539235905
He should have reskinned it to be anything but a space game so that the sim fags wouldn't crowd around it

>yet another tranny seethe lap over "MUUUH AAAAAIIIII"
How about you just go back to making your 3 review flops then?

>>539227807
Is there a creature more disgusting and subhuman than the GAMER?

>>539236738
The game developer

>>539236761
Hi Steamie piggie, did you buy the latest CS2 crate so fatfuck gabencunt can get himself the 10th yacht?

>>539236237
key word good games, you dip. that means only 5% of games from here qualify

>>539227219 (OP)
>>539227807
>>539236738

Gradually
I began
to
hate
them

>>539236183
>>539236761
the lgtb eceleb worshipping creature is here

>>539234694
LFG

>>539236993
So just make your games good?

>>539233723
You'd be correct

>>539227759
I'm targeting February's next fest, I don't think I can get my game done in time for next month. So you're stuck with me for at least one more Demo Day.

>>539227843
Not true, I'll be back for you clowns to test my next game. Demo Day was the best feedback I've ever gotten from playtesters

im struggling to make this guy.. better
idk what he's missing
i feel like i could add more frames to his sprite, but i dont think thats whats bugging me about him

Have you seen any /agdg/ games get mentioned outside of 4chan?
I got reccommended a couple videos about YOMI Hustle, and World of Horror lately. It's not like I've ever searched for those games on Youtube either

>>539237394
anything else?

>>539237930
Yeah fuck Fygoon and fuck Jannies, and I love my mom

>>539237670
Risk of Rain is pretty popular

>>539236237
>good games keep decreasing in supply
entitled gamerbrained cunt shitstain

>>539238017
ngmi alert

>>539238017
>fygoon outta nowhere
let me guess, pedophile?

>>539237670
I saw Underspace from a youtuber I follow and I see Peripeteia get brought up when i-sims get mentioned

Aspiring game developers (aka nodevs) who have yet to ship a successful game are the most entitled creatures on this planet.

>>539237670
Bug Fables was an aggy game and that was pretty popular in 2020

How is using AI voice impermissible? Am I not allowed to replace it with real voices at a later date? What kinda fucking transer tranny logic is that?

>>539237670
All the time. I've even met an aggy dagger or two.

>>539238082
I'm dead serious you fucking shitass. No, I will not play your gambleslop and your rogueslop and your VNslop and your horrorslop and your AAAslop. I want real fucking games. People want real fucking games. Just make real fucking games.

>>539238259
Define "real games".

>>539238259
I'm sure your 2d platformer soulslike metroidvania train simulator will have a ton of players

>>539238486
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3172700/Banquet_for_Fools/

>>539238551
funny meme

>>539238551
show screenshot of playtime.

>>539238486
Pong is the only real game. Everything made after that is derivative bullshit

>>539237670
All the time, my brother will randomly play one once in a while since he follows new indie releases.

Uh oh shouldn't have done that. Banquet tends to send this thread into a full on meltie

I have decided to not go through with AI generated music... Trannies rejoice.

>>539238551
Bffs flopping radicalized me, in the 90s they wouldve become Blizzard big.

>>539238721
>>539238649
What's the joke? I haven't been in the thread for months.

>>539238259
lots of slop but also lots of great games. plus they're not decreasing in supply because games you haven't played are still out there which is why we're competing not only with new releases but also with old releases.

>>539238785
The joke is that most people here are too dumb to see BfF for the colossal accomplishment it is

>>539238772
It probably takes 2-3 months to learn everything you'd need to know about songwriting and production to make a passable soundtrack. 1 month if you already play an instrument, especially keyboard.

>>539238780
it's why we should be making slop until we extract enough money from gamer scum to be able to gamedev for life without worrying about sales.

>>539238721
This general *is* the banquet for fools.

>>539236104
I have to go down in the video game mines and risk my mental health to meet demand althougheverbeit

>>539238785
the joke is that it doesn't matter how much effort you put into a game, if it's for a market that doesn't exist then it won't work

>>539238949
That only degrades the supply of gamercattle and we can't use them to buy the ludokino later

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1082970/Archaelund/
is another fucking disgrace and signs that we're in the slop age. it should have reached 1000 reviews easy. but no, gamers want nodebuster and digseum and the hole digging game.

>>539239042
101% convinced this dude has no soul

never kill yourself
never give up

>>539239197
>gamers want nodebuster and digseum and the hole digging game
Yup. All unironically great games.

There is a lot of bait in this thread. Even the OP is bait.

Unless a given game has value for society, or having a mass of indie devs has value to society, why should people care about having a mass of indie devs?

>>539239363
all slop for braindead retards

>>539239363
retard

>>539238905
Right, cause I also don't have to do coding, the art, the design, the story etc. etc. etc. And I don't have IRL to distract me, retard.

>>539239434
All slop for tired wagies who just want to turn off their brain and relax by enjoying their hobby of gaming after a long hard day in the cagie. You wouldn't understand because you've never worked a day in your life.

>>539238886
>>539239050
alright, thanks

>Playlist: 1 hour of Epic Dwarf Music
>Task: Draw massive cock
>For: Sex scene
we're in, boys

>>539239616
If you don't understand that what you just said is the exact reason we need segregation of gamers then it's too late for you

>>539239413
Creative pursuits of any kind have always been sink or swim. Video games, movies, art, etc, are all luxury goods. People don't have to buy them like they do food. If you want to succeed you have to bring something to the table that others don't and really stand out.

>>539238136
No devs are the most unbiased posters because they aren't blinded by the sunk-cost fallacy

>>539239413
calling something "bait" instead of addressing the point is retarded
its infuriating to read gamers shitting on indie gamedev when we already get fucked by steam, pipe down tranny

>>539239607
Hire someone to do the shit you can't or learn how, there is no other way. If it all seems to much for you maybe a different hobby is more your speed.

>>539239353
Maybe change career?

>>539239830
It's a /v/ subhuman, it's not a sapient creature. Please, just ignore and hide its posts. It's a creature that isn't aware of its surroundings

>>539239920
no? just make gamerslop for gamerpigs
TGD

>>539239746
Successful market participants (gamedevs) give the market what the market wants. Unemployed failed-to-launch zoomer manchildren like you do not have jobs and cannot afford to pay for video games. Therefore, good devs will not make video games for you. You brought this upon yourself.

>>539240098
the market isn't one thing

>>539240059
Gamedev has always been where all the failed artists go

>>539239830
Why would they be thrilled about a situation where they buy 100s of games and play maybe 10 of them? Where they are chasing achievements that are fake achievements, or even indicate negative achieving regarding their real life?

>>539239905
>Hire someone to do the shit you can't
I am but I'm running out of money and my composer's kinda a cunt so Idk what to do... Idk if my publisher can give me any more money either, so that's why I'm freaking out.

Cris is currently requesting yaoi LNs in the jp lit thread

>>539239830
If you really hate Steam and other game competitors that much, then make a game that cures people of playing games, and trick people at large into buying and playing it.

>>539240135
The market is reflected by the Steam front page. Games enjoyed by smaller niche markets like broke ass zoomers who refuse to grow up won't make it to the front page.

I can't believe Hollow Knight: Silksong got away with doing a indie genocide. The Indie Industry doesn't deserve us.

>>539239749
Would >>539240385 stand out?

I guess you could call the game Samson game option.

a game where you suckle on loli toes

>>539240059
>what happens when you copy an old indie classic that's simple but devs haven't properly capitalized on
versus
>what happens when you copy old big studio games that have complexity that AAA studios are still reproducing today ... but with nostalgia!

What you are observing is what happened when an ecosystem of zoomer gamedevs raised on the AAAslop of the 2010s completely take over the industry

>>539175538
And after the 1000 tasks are done, only 2000 will remain. And after the 2000 tasks are done, only 4000 will remain. And after the 4000 tasks are done, only 8000...

>>539240673
Enough hornyposting.

>game flops because it's shit
>blame steam
lol
lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder?useskin=vector

>>539240801
You are just a subhuman with no brain. What actually is happening, is indie games and gaming in general becoming even MORE mainstream than it was in 2010. So all the worthless normies and third worlders are now influencing what sells and what doesn't.

Remember, most gamedevs today only make what sells. Blame the consumers for being subhumans (like you) and having shit taste.

I will exterminate every last slopdev

>>539241238
You don't even have the willpower to eliminate the trash littering your room.

>>539239197
One major factor why it's flopping

>>539241128
Gaming isn't becoming more mainstream. Gaming is still just as niche as it was in the 90s.
I can't take you seriously if you actually refer to mobileshit and consoleshit and casualshit as part of gaming

GMI Games:
Project Landsword
Solitaire Battle
Armaphract
Illusive Domain

NGMI Games:
Everything else.

>>539241965
>not castella

>>539241370
I've seen plenty of indie games with multiple languages fail to reach 10 reviews.

>>539241965
anything else?

>>539242089
post three examples (you won't)

>>539239197
Diggy diggy diggy hole. It's already at 1k reviews from some days ago
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/538838335/#q538845091

>>539241965
yeah... about that

>>539240673
Why is foot fetish the most popular in the Middle East and Africa in the world? Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell had clear foot fetishes as well from photographs, and Jesus washed the feet of a prostitute.

>>539242259
Yep! Your game is NGMI for sure!

>>539227904
Why are his lips so red?

>>539241965
>anime girls and skinnerbox

>>539241965
sigh, snubbed again

>>539243001
shhhh don't tell him

>>539243001
>competing with AAA gacha games that are """free""""
hell to the naw, the only tranime that works is gay shit like futa weg
sit down

>>539243349
>hell to the naw
cringe

>>539243349
>tranime
anime weebsite.
go back.

>>539243451
>cringe
aint no way you use this word while gassing up tranime girls
nahhhhh dfkm
>>539243568
frog website
go back

>>539242998
That was after the make out session with all the fangirls he invited to the vip room

>>539227472
thanks

>>539240632
Not only they got away, the crowd applauded!

Is he right?

>>539227472
Where will you sell your loligames? Steam? Itch.io? Might as well skip the loligames.

>>539242998
Boeing money ain't free

>>539244113
games?

why does this place love lizardmen so much? why not fish men or insect men?

>>539243406
How many of those are throwaway projects or bonafide shovelware.

>>539244113
DLsite

>>539243406
>Out of the 89,467 non-free games on Steam, as many as 9,735 have >500 reviews.

>>539244615
>34 reviews
LMMMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NIGGA IM A FLOPDEV AND I BEAT DAT
SIIIIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

i'm making a dialogue system for my game, what sounds should it have like when typing out the letters or advancing?

>>539244867
941 ratings thoughbeit

>>539242998
Italian negro blood

hey, guy who notices things
did you notice that the poster who accuses fygoon of being secretly a pedo is now silent when actual pedos are posting
just thought that it was interesting enough to point out

uh oh fygoonsimp meltie

>>539238551
>>539238721
read the negative reviews
the game plays like shit

>>539244979
Something that's easy on the ears. Never liked the stupid Rare style grunting or the weird mumbling like the one you hear in Silksong.

>>539245313
i thought of something satisfying, like soft pops or something

>>539239197
I'm surprised how many reviews this has actually...I could pump out something similar in a years time and make a few hundred grans.

>>539245313
>Never liked the stupid Rare style grunting or the weird mumbling like the one you hear in Silksong.
But Anon! It's superior to AI voice acting and real voice acting, and silence is... LE BAD! So you NEED rare style grunting because me and all my tranny friends like it!

>>539245040
wtf

>>539244615
>DLsite
How does its customer base compare to Steam? If less than 10%, might as well rope yourself.

>>539244979
Traditional chiptune cursor noises.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYUnvh6oxw

>>539245290
I played the game nigga. It's fucking amazing

>>539238551
Wish this game was couch co-op as it's the only games I play anymore.

>>539245478
stupid retard, hey there, stupid retard, do you not know how to use steam revenue calc? 300 reviews isn't making a few hundred grand you dink retarded dickhead

>>539245980
okay but you have to understand that you're not normal

>>539246120
300 X 40 X price = few hundred grand.

>>539246294
Is that supposed to be an argument?

>>539246491
yes, it is

>>539246491
>Is that supposed to be an argument?

>>539246491
>Is that supposed to be an argument?

>>539245965
Robot mumbling isn't much better.

>>539240098
>>539240517
Most of the world population is Indians and Chinamen
so I suppose by your logic we should be doing everything we can to appeal to them because everyone else doesn't matter

>>539246120
bokusimp you don't even have money, why are you so obsessed with it?

>make a weird face and do this thing with my lips
>hop back and forth from one foot to the other
>"I make bideogames, I make bideogames"

>>539247365
You do you

>>539246294
why? because i dont support trans "right" and support banquet for fools instead?

MY GAME IS SHIT
CLAUDE CODE IS SHIT
IM GOING BACK TO GRINDING POE2 FUCK GAMEDEVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

>>539246879
India doesn't play PC games, but China does, so yes, you should be doing what you can to appeal to chinks, which is mainly just tits and number go up.

MY GAME IS AWESOME
I'M NEVER USING AI
I'M GOING BACK TO BECOMING A GREAT MAN FUCK EVERYONEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>539248419
good luck with that lil buddy LMAO

I used AI voice in my game.
Yes, I do regret it. But my alternatives were worse.

>>539244445
Lizardmen are canaanite-coded therefore most relatable to /agdg/ and the inner circle

>>539249269
inner circle no longer exists since underspace released

>>539249965
I can't believe trainwiz was the head of the inner circle all along

Let's fucking goooooo

https://godotengine.org/releases/4.5/

>>539250065
C# web export status?

>>539248647
>lil buddy

Ok mabe I am a visionary game designer after all