Thread 539651878

Truth Hellbomb Edition

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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squiggers to spread Managed Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets and their patience, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit and their colleagues. With Joel's blessing, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player is based if they combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is better game, being a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/

>MAJOR NEWS
ODST WARBOND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So
INTO THE UNJUST DEEP DIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE
DUST DEVILS WARBOND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw

>LATEST PATCHES
Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527
Sep 16 1.400.002 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/787688820859470905

>BAAAAAWWWWWW NERF ENEMY
why don't (You) just get good and replace your funslop loadout with something that works?

>>539651878 (OP)
>i've put insane hours
>(rank 80)

That chud is right. The grunt fantasy ruins the game.

>>539652085
It is pretty funny that I've barely touched most of the guns/stratgems/armor and use the same handful for every mission.

Truth is, explosionmaxxers carried the bug front from the start.

>5 weeks to revert a bug fix
Defend this.

There should be 5 difficulties in the game, splitting the playerbase into ten groups makes zero sense whatsoever. diff 5 would be current d10, 4 would be 8, etc.

>>539652275
>/hdg/ and reddit cried really really hard
>AH had to lower the difficulty for them
here you go

>>539652249
>Add stat whose entire purpose is to nerf everything that is not an explosive
>Explosives dominate
It's crazy.

>Players unironically looking for a power fantasy in a meat grinder grunt game
Maybe you should lower the difficulty or play something else.

brown

>>539651878 (OP)
Wonder who is removing all the fun.

Ahh, I have to wait a bit longer I guess.

>>539652189
Helldivers should be hardcore and serious, not something for you and your brainrot gang to enjoy over a bowl of whatever kids smoke these days.

>>539652371
D10 is the only difficulty that matters anyway.

>>539652637
Only being able to name one of Joel or Alexus is truly Sophie's choice.

>>539652275
The bugs were spawning too much SC. They don't know how to separate the code spawning SC from the digger code.

>proof???
AH did not remove fleshmobs, war striders nor roachdragons: SC spawns dried up in oshaune after the diggers got removed.

>>539652461
SEAF soldiers are grunts (shitty basic equipment, no access to stratagems so they can call in a nuke, ect....). Helldivers are the opposite of that, you don't play the game

>>539652275
I won't. These changes will erode the game's foundations just like the disastrous 60-day patch did.

>>539652832
SEAF have standare issue medium pen liberators.

>>539621306
he has some good points but most of this is just raging because his ego got hurt by the game.
the state of the game is in the fucking gutter.
nothings working properly and we get shafted every single patch.
he's completely right about the armors being apple bacon is nonsensical from a videogame perspective.
but you can tell when the anger takes over because he has thousands of hours in the game and still dies to bunker turrets.
his only clip about fleshmobs is the one where they walk under the ground. and he's outraged about the enemy without attempting to shoot it and instead running away.
he's mad about bugs being swarmy (?) although he brings up a good point about hive guards spam.
I wish bugs were like angry ants that force players to make a balanced aoe and anti tank loadout.
but in the current state is just AMR lole because every enemy is an AV3 medium, and AMR one taps all of them in addition to killing chargers in 4 bullets..
he's definitely on the other end of the spectrum, and half of his balance takes are just "skill issue" like he said himself.
doesn't excuse sweden from putting out worse and worse content and nerfing and nerfing.
>there shouldn't be a need for a 60 day plan every 180 days.
this is just the painful truth though.

bugdivers are grunts
squiggers are the same exact brand of zombie they're fighting
botdivers are elites, specialists, living gods of marksmanship, and super girth c-01 permit havers

>ohcuck
so this is the sloptuber you guys chose to fellate huh
fitting, he's a whiteknight for the variable, that's about the same cringe tier as /hdg/'s own anti meta contrarianism

>>539653350
I'll take some asshat fellating the variable and calling everything else shit than some asshat fellating everything else except the variable.

One rifle being terrible > The entire game being terrible

>>539653116
>dunking on slow moving targets with glowing weakspots that couldn't aim for shit are elite
>maining the easy mode faction where you set up a cuck chair on a hill and clear the entire map's worth of outposts are elite
botshitter cope

>>539652832
>helldivers 2 is starshiptroopers inspired
>but you don't play as grunts
You're a retard.

>>539653510
Botdivers are the most based crowd by the simple fact that Helldivers 2 gameplay is at its strongest when aim, cover, and projectile physics are its main focus.

>>539652725
>me I suck AH dicks too much

>>539653350
>wake up
>find out that /hdg/ likes\hates a CC
>it's literally like spookston in /wtg/
I really feel like at home

>>539653547
Call me when we have 16 man squads like the actual starship troopers game or a bajillion man squad, like battlefield.

>high tech mine on Mintoria
>Look inside
>Grass biome

>>539653678
There is no greater joy than projectile physics in games for me. I love hitting eat/recoilless shots on enemies halfway across the map using the markings on the sight, or just winging it and still nailing a gunship cross-map

I unironically think there are some AH employees here defending their company instead of DOING THEIR JOB

>>539653914
your wrong Anon they dont come here because we could be mean to them so they hair SEAs to do it for them

>>539652085
Honestly what I really want is them to keep the players the same, and bring the enemies back to near launch levels of power, ideally with less bugs (lole), you occasionally get close to the feel in 10's and 9's, but I want more

>>539654008
ESL

whatever D10 steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244328698980/76561198088743007

>>539654101
I just want even more enemies at once, with the performance improvements needed to make it reasonable.

>>539654128
?

So are we so over or are we so back as of the rupture strain removal?

>>539654101
Oh yeah I sure want to go back to the leg meta and random one-shots on the bot front, that'll fix everything.

>>539654337
>leg meta
Yes.
>random one-shots
Just impact with less steps.

>>539654332
I had fun with rupture and I will miss oshaune being the closest to bugs actually being challenging that I've experienced in a while

>>539654337
, I thought the oneshot was related to head armour being set at 0 rather than the missiles bing bugged, and in the case of chargers wasn't it also a bug that the butt had such stupid amout of hp?
I guess I just meant I want the old spawnrates with with the actually good strategems and guns we have now.

I enjoyed my nice easy, trivial, almost brainless vacation on oshaune, but it's nice to be back playing against a real faction

The first planet you played on when you started the game is now your home planet. Where are you from?

>>539654614
Errata prime, unfortunately

>>539654614
Mars?

>>539654558
same here, fellow squidsister :)

Reply game again.

Post a thing and ask other posters to theorycraft how that thing would work as an enemy for the game.

Droideka

>>539654614
Erata prime I think
I hate that place

>>539654332
I liked the diggers and playing against them. It's honestly a shame

>>539654614
Super Earth

If you can't solo the hivelord you are a shitter

>>539655413
>rr/eat spam lower plate
>stalward the flesh
>run perpendicular and dive when it attacks
wow

>>539655543
show proof

>>539655543
you spam strafing runs, that method takes way too long

does anything except a hive lord and some buildings survive a full thermite charge? They seem ridiculous

>>539653350
>>ohcuck
I prefer Eravin. :>

>>539654614
Angel's Venture...my home...no longer exists. It was taken from us by the filthy wormongering squids, and through absolutely no fault on the part of Super Earth High Command.

Aww hell, we have to be divers, too?

How do I play bots without getting drowsy?

>>539656418
by diving on Oshaune

>>539655763
Bile Titans, Impalers, Dragon Roaches, War Striders and Factory Striders all take more than one unless you land it on a weak point. But yeah if you land all 3 of your thermites or 5 if you use engineering kit on something you will kill it.

Leviathans obviously not included because you probably arent landing your thermites on them anyways. Maybe with lift pack and servo-assisted. But I think it would take 8 of them at least.

>>539654332
Don't care, minor it's over just on principle of having to claw back content, but I really don't care about rupture strain one way or another

>>539654614
Phact Bay
My favored planet for SC grinding now, actually

>>539656418
By not being dead all the time.
Maybe bring the reinforcement budget booster the next time you get off the bugfront.

>>539653914
Awww
They're spending precious time out of their five week vacation with us?
How sweet.

>>539656796
If you don't care then why are you still here?

AYO COMMANDOS I CAN'T STIM

>>539655849
Same :D

why do botdivers believe themselves to be good

>>539654614
long has it been since i first inged my mar

>"we dont want to enforce a meta"
>now use explosive weapons or pay the stim tax
Why do people go to such lengths to defend this? This shit sucked.

>>539657376
Lower the difficulty

Does anyone here play this game with a tartarus keypad?
I just found mine in a box after a move and kinda want to use it again.

Uhhh framed doko?

>brown hours
>0 lobbies being made
>metric shit tons of shitposts and brown people accusing each other of being brown
>american hours
>tons of lobbies
>healthy discussions about the game
Guess it's true when people say brownoids are too poor to buy the game and play it so they shit up the thread instead

>>539652127
Different time bud. This was much closer to launch.

>>539657602
the Americans ARE the browns retard

>>539657428
Lowering the difficulty changed nothing about how the (now removed) enemies from the game functioned.

>>539657602
This game has one of the best seanigger filters of all time. Relatively high cost, requires a good rig, and p2p so you can't host with shit internet and connecting from halfway across the world is also miserable

>>539657602
>wojack
>doesn't know brown hours = American hours

>>539657716
And now your issues are gone

>>539657768
>brown hours = American hours
>during the hours when americans are sleeping

>>539657716
Lowering the difficulity can also be changing to ordinary bugs instead of the subfaction that is designed to be more challenging.

>>539658020
>thread is nice
>americans wake up
>complaining about brown hours starts
Curious.

>>539658247
No one lives on the east coast

>>539652637
I'm convinced they're all retards. Every single one. The coding team can't code, the balance team can't balance, the writing team can't write, the leadership can't lead, and the QA department can't test. It's a failure at every single stage of the game's development.
>code/dev
It's a fucking mess of spaghetti that unravels if you change one tiny fucking detail. It's on the level of some indie devs first time slapping together blocks of pseudocode. And nobody knows how to unfuck it.
>balance
Alexus actively hates the playerbase and is somehow still in charge of balancing things. As long as he works in balance, the weapons in this game will be inconsistent at best and downright dogshit at worst. He knows he can't touch the core arsenal so that will always stay the same, but anything new will be touched by his serbian fetal alcohol syndrome. He is STILL petulant about how he was forced into line to do the 60 day patch and has been doing his best to revert it slowly as time goes on.
>writing
The story in this game barely exists and doesn't link together cohesively at all. It's barely even there despite them having a narrative team. Joel is also the fucking worst steward of the galactic war possible. He's the worst of the worst GM tropes all bundled up into a swedish meatball. Blatant railroading, changing the rules on the fly, whatever. And, he IS the main avenue for the story in this game, what little of it we're allowed to participate in.
>leadership
Time and time again we saw that the only fucking leader capable of making the team do anything decent was Pilestedt. He had to step down and whip the team into the 60 day patch, and when he left, immediately they reversed course. Shams is a fucking snake, and it seems like there ARE no other leaders. Nikolas in the game director but he seems to have zero presence and a completely different ideology than Piles did. Under his stewardship, the game has degraded to the state it's in today.
>QA
Lol.

>>539658321
I do.
I'm also the whitest person left in America.
This is also my first post today.

How can Swede remove fun if true fun has not been added yet (hopefully soon)?

>>539658372
Congrats, now host a lobby

Haven't had a single game on this MO bot world where I didn't crash

>>539658517
vram and ram?

I understand not making every primary a perfect super weapon that thrives in every scenario but why has it been almost 2 years and LibCon is still in that terrible state? Why don't they just make it less shit in a monthly patch

>>539658743
it's perfectly balanced and top tier according to jewtubers.

>>539658247
Americans are at work/college until like 5-6 pm their local time. They game from like 6pm to 12pm

>>539658743
Reminder that it originally was called the lib explosive but the explosion was so underwhelming they rebranded it as the lib concussive
>captcha:MAYGD
yes captcha, may god help us

>>539658945
They should just fully rework it into an explosive weapon and vault the concussive AR bullshit

>>539654614
Curia

>>539658517
Why are bots crashing as of late? I had stopped playing bots around the halo warbond and they were fine. But now? It's absolute ass.

>>539654614
Oshaune
I really like both versions of it

>>539659750
New bot spamming explosions is the only thing that's really changed

>>539658743
>put a bullet damage penalty AND fire rate penalty on an already meh weapon
>Give it basically nothing in return
Same for that stupid garbo defender stun variant.

>>539654614
Memelon Creek

>>539660181
In return it gets a special effect that makes your enemies weak point move around erratically

>>539658743
The LibCon SHOULD just be an optional ammo type you slap onto the Liberator if you felt like you wanted to be more CC oriented for some retarded reason. But they decided that for the purposes of padding out content they would take different ammo types and/or other customizable options (like the LibCarbine fire rate) and turn them into "unique" guns. The LibCon will never be good and if concussive round were available for the base Liberator, people probably wouldn't have used them much either because killing stuff will always be more effective than displacing/stunning stuff.

>>539653350
>fellates the Variable
Unfathomably based, a man of good taste.

The entire game is a living breathing example of sunk cost fallacy. It's too hard to fix so we'll just keep stacking shit on top of shit until the game slowly dies off (this is happening right now)

>>539653350
nigga just spouts facts, you know he's good if the swiggers banned him from discord for not deepthroating AH enough

>>539660181
To be fair, it does have double durable damage when compared to the basic liberator. So if it had normal firerate it might be a decent gun.
Basic lib:
80 dmg 15 durable
Lib conc:
65 dmg 30 durable

>>539658945
the old explosive tag was fucking stupid tbf
just made them do more damage to bug ass

>>539658743
>>539658945
>>539659495
>>539660181
>>539660310
They should just make it "explosive" by giving it full durable damage. The bullets already visually explode on impact anyway.

Some guns (smgs and shotguns) should have a "shredder" effect that does bonus damage to unarmored areas

>>539660718
Didn't eravin get the same kind of treatment from arrowhead?

Why do you dumbfucks care what a literal fuccboi faggot thinks?

I wonder when AH will realize that guns that are just status effect spready with barely any killingpower will never be used
Like who even uses the Libconc, Pacifier or Sterilizer?

>>539660932
Shotguns get raped by the fraction hardcode issue destroying their damage after it gets reduced by a few feet of distance. This is why all the shotgun defenders have to showcase them by sticking them practically inside the enemy model.

It's related to how they had to increase bleedout to 10 and how durable, drag factir and armor matching work together with the small damage number per pellets.

SMGs are afected by them not being SMGs at all.

>>539661156
Halt did see some use for it's stun power, but that was a 2 in one deal where you get an actual gun to go with the stun.

>>539660965
The CMs hate him for some reason. Don't really know why. Most of their youtube partners shit on them constantly, so I dont know what he did or said that has made them blacklist him in particular.

>>539661376
>fraction hardcoded issue
What, is it that the game can't comprehend decimals, so it rounds all of them?

>>539661450
merely he faggoty, rapeable attitude

>>539661376
>SMGs are afected by them not being SMGs at all
It's this mouthbreather again.

>>539661156
Why are stunning guns even a thing? Where is it better to stun a enemy than killing them in this game?

>>539654614
I don't even remember what desert planet we used to drop on at launch.

>>539660965
>>539661450
It's because Eravin was very maliciously spreading misinformation. And what was that, you may ask?
>Peak Physique's melee damage buff only applies to the quick melee button

Which I think was actually a real thing and other CCs were spreading it around too, but he just said it for a bit longer than most.

>>539661484
Rounds them to zero! And it can round numbers to zero, even if they are not a decimal, if the number is under ten and being affected by percentages.

>>539661737
AI post

>months and months of bitching
>it takes one random level 80 twitter guy to get through to them

concussive EAT when?

>>539661737
Oh, okay, yeah. Exactly what I thought.
The game has a pretty big problem when it comes to decimals, and it's annoying how inconsistently they apply it.
>Damage rounding? Always down, no matter what.
>Stats on the UI? Always up, no matter what.
Like, I'm pretty sure extended mag has a reload stat of 1.5, but it gets rounded to 2 on the UI.

>>539662041
>instead of killing something I just want to stun it a little bit and make it think about what's it's done

>>539661545
When I think about smgs in videogames, I think about weapons dealing the same damage as an assault rifle per round, with the same armor piercing abilities as a full length rifle and slower fire rate than a semi-auto pistol. Yeah, that's an SMG!

>>539662041
Concussive mines to do ragdoll parkour with.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244340642761/76561197960404530
Detroit d10 (bots)

>>539662183
High ergo, big magazine and one handed.
Reprimand isn't an smg.

>>539654614
>fori prime

>>539662041
I want a orbital concussion shot

>>539660932
The guns were initially balanced like this because SMGs did like +20 more damage than assault rifles

This made these weapons much better against bugs, which you'd expect because you can fire them behind yourself and they also do a lot more damage against the generally higher HP pool bugs, vs precision assault rifles and DMRS

However, people went "WHADAFUKKK?? .45 MORE DAMAGE THAN 5.56??? XDDD" at arrowhead enough so now the liberator does the same damage as the defender and there's generally no reason to take SMGs

is Arrowhead Game Studios a developer of Malice, or Incompetence?
it can't be both.

>>539662183
Mp40 has 500ish RPM.
So yes, this checks out.

I think the biggest reason why people get mad about the shitty dev team for this game is because of how much potential HD2 has to be a fun game, if they didn't have a stick up their ass this could actually have been one of the best coopge shooters in the market that would have been a staple for other games to come, instead its sort of like darktide

>>539662041
>Concussive LMG when
>EMS Spear when
>Pineapple Railgun when
>pre-buff Thermite Autocannon when

>>539653792
bot caves next week

>>539659750
>>539659949
They did change a few things about bots without telling anyone.
>eye glow now has a pre-baked fog effect extending outwards in front of the eyes
>eyes are generally brighter during alert phase and certain lighting conditions
>hulk eye visuals updated to be a pinpoint dot instead of a line
>devastator heads now explode instead of simply flaring or collapsing

>>539662683
bot factory worlds*

>>539662314
The only weapons under the SMG banner that are close to meeting the SMG feel are the crossover weapons and maybe the knight. But this means that only one of the SMG class weapons designed by AH directly and not bound by contractual obligations "feels" like an SMG.

>>539662683
>bots in an area where they can't call in more units
The easiest faction gets even fucking easier lmao

>>539662450
jeet incompetence

>>539659750
They're still crashing? fugg
>>539662246
nevermind on this lobby, gonna dive bugs I guess

>>539662816
What makes the pummeler and defender not smgs in your oppinion?

>>539662504
Yeah this is pretty much it. If the devs didn't keep shooting themselves in the limbs and autistically screeching while shitting themselves, this game would be one of the greats of all time. It'd stand among titans that changed the industry like Diablo 2, Super Mario 64, and Doom.

But instead it's run by retarded swiggers who actively pour the lightning out of the bottle and replace it with surstromming.

>>539662816
To be fair I think the defender 'feels' like a low RPM smg like the UMP 45, ironically the gun designed to be a UMP (reprimand) has too much recoil and feels more like an AK or something. The defender slugs are very low velocity and that's definitely what it feels like to shoot that kind of SMG irl

>>539663126
Its actually just incredibly retarded how they slowly but surely removed practically all fun things about the game since launch, I don't know how they do it, it must be some special kind of mental retardation

>>539654747
>theorycraft
no one played your game because of this dumb ass word

>developers put out an announcement:
>if the players lose the GW, we're going back to the start and changing the course of the game balance.
how fast would the playerbase throw the war?

>>539662504
>>539663126
>>539663245
I'm beginning to believe the schizo theory that AHGS doesn't wanna work on the game anymore and they're trying to "naturally" kill it off. This level of repeated staggeringly awful incompetence couldn't be genuine, there's no fucking way.

>>539663910
Why would anyone care about the outcome of this stupid war? Railroading the narrative yet pretending the players have influence is a surefire way to breed nothing but contempt and resentment in everyone but baseddads on reddit who roleplay. Nobody else gives a fuck

>>539663910
>they announce it only on the discord

>>539663910
They don't need any help. The playerbase is so demoralized that they literally cannot complete MOs. Every MO won since control group has been through reduced goals.

>>539662504
This is it. It is always possible to have fun in this game because at its core it is awesome. But the fact that you are constantly navigating bugs, retarded balance, and poor design choices to find that route to have some fun is what makes it so fucking frustrating.

It would be awesome if you had a randomizer button like DRG does. You just queue with random gear and strats into a random mission type at whatever difficulty you operate at and then boom, you are having fun. But you might end up with shit gear, you might end up fighting annoying enemies, you might end up playing a bugged mission type. Its tiresome.

are bots stupid? kind of feels like they could conquer humanity easily if they just did the terminator 3 thing

>haha
They're laughing at you for expecting content. They hate you.

>>539664023
They announced they are moving their staff to work on another, non-helldivers related, game. It should be obvious they don't wanna make more helldivers.

>>539664023
First time playing a swedish game?

Where did all they progress on the side order planets go? Did Joel flip them down to zero or what?

>>539663910
>how fast would the playerbase throw the war?
The blob doesn't care, it's only reddit that even tries to coordinate.
Which, ironically, would cause the MO to fail because reddit would be trying to pull off a shitty gambit, only to stretch the playerbase thin.

>>539664349
This game won't be done until:
- Illuminates have at least 1 sub faction
- Bots and squids have 'home worlds' with bosses (leviathan is technically fine, but would prefer the giant eyeball)
- APC is in the game
I suspect they'll have this game 'complete' in 2 more years at this pace

>>539664371
AH revealed that there was no content involved in winning the minor order contrary to they communication so everybody just decided to ignore it.

>>539664298
>The comment that halted the playerbase's progress

>>539664547
god I hope they activate HD1-style war with randomized major orders rather than this game master shit, I want to win and lose on our own terms, I want to lock out factions by defeating them for at least a week, I want objectives like "kill x hivelords" so the community feels like they're actually doing something challenging to take a home world

>>539663910
>make galactic war mechanics wide and deep as a puddle, make no effort into improving them other than manually changing values when they want a win/lose
>now do the same but with the added punishment of shiting on balance of the game if we fail
Great idea to kill the game, you should apply to Arrowhead

>>539664349
>>539664351
Okay, more in the realm of
>"We don't wanna work on HD2 anymore"
>"But if we announce that the game is finished, people will cry and complain that we scammed them and stole their money"
>"But we really want all of them to go to our next game in 2 swedish business years (8 years)"
>"Oh! I know what to do! Lets just make our game progressively more shitty and frustrating, but blame it on tech debt, so people stop playing naturally!"
>Genius, Sven! Then we can silently stop updating it, and nobody will notice!"

>>539654614
Hellmire

are bugs stupid? why would they evolve giant worms instead of big fat bug tiddies

>>539651878 (OP)
>faggot troon OP posting verbal diarrhea of literally who’s
KYS

>>539663910
As I have no option but to take his word for it, according to my friend the HD1 playerbase would often wipe out the bugs and the cyborgs and then stop playing to let the squids take super earth and lose the war because they didnt like fighting squids. That way they could get back to fighting the bugs and cyborgs after it reset.

>>539664980
holy tourist newfag, did you got this game last week?

>>539654614
Technically every player's first planet was Mars or Super Earth in the tutorial

>>539664725
I want a D10 mission that is just explicitly to kill like 3 hivelords.

War striders are the main reason I'm playing at lot less.
Everytime I wanna dive bots and taking something else than RR/QC/Spear I'm forced to bring along EATs and Thermites just in case I roll into a war strider seed.

>>539665238
You should bring EAT alongside everything anyway...You don't need that extra sentry

>>539665103
not anymore, the Mars recruitment center got glassed in the invasion of Super Earth, its now on a different planet, you can check it yourself by redoing the turorial

>>539665238
skill issue

>>539662450
its always both

Haven't been keeping up with the game recently. I heard that redditors, /hdg/, and other shitters were getting extremely upset with the current balance. Is that right?

>OCR can't kill a single war strider consistently
>3 minute cooldown
>you will often encounter multiple war striders at every objective, in every patrol and in every drop on the wrong seed

>>539665238
Lower the difficulty

>>539665769
surely nobody in this thread could be such a newfag, right? we're all experienced vets, experts at the game

>>539665890
>>539666023
>

War striders are literally Ultimatum-food...

>>539666043
if you dont have the reddit cape you are a newfag and don't belong here

>>539666008
Alexus will never move 50% of the projectile damage to the explosion on all strategems and instantly fix them all with this one singular action.

>>539666112
bro, literally

>>539666112
back in my day I could take whatever retarded bullshit in my secondary slot I wanted against bots and we'd fight it out like men

>Twigsnapper armor
>Predator mask/beret
>Executioner’s Canopy
>LibCarb on burst
>Bushwhacker on volley
>MG-206 on 750 RPM
Oh yeah, Commando time.

>>539666231
You can still do that if you don't mind bringing the RR, Spear, EAT, Commando, Quasar, or Epoch. All of which also demolish war striders if you aren't retarded.

>>539666236

shouldn't you be taking the commando as seen in the movie commando

Imagine struggling with war striders...Why does this game attract so many retarded and useless people?

>>539665970
Eh, more the bugs that cause crashes and jank than anything. Same old same old. Balance is mostly fine, lack of content makes people complain about balance because there's nothing else to talk about

>>539666626
NTA but they're the only things you can't just cut in half with the HMG, also getting ragdolled 10 times in 2 seconds is just annoying

>>539665970
Play with the following loadout

liberator concussive
warrant
throwing knife

orbital precision strike
orbital railcannon strike
eagle rocket pods
anti personnel minefield

any faction
D10

report back.

>>539665970
they're just doomers, it's mostly minor shit

>>539666750
nigga just walk away

Will we ever have a event like battle for super earth again?

>>539660181
>>539658743
Filtered, the pummeler fucks. That said I think the concussive is glitched unless someone can explain to me what’s going on because it doesn’t stagger Illuminate Overseers. If you plap them with the pummeler they get staggered and flinch but not the concussive even when you magdump so what is the point of that fucking gun…? Glitch? Feature?
???

>>539666890
That is not the challenge you think it is.

Randomized loadouts aren't cutting it anymore
Give me your weird loadout ideas for bots, can be as shitty as you want I just wanna try out some gear combos

>>539667090
No, it isn't a challenge. I just asked him to play with it because he said he hasn't played in a long time. You should play with it l, too.

>>539667050
host dot bug they STILL haven't fixed

>>539667214
torcher
crisper
flamethrower
incendiary non impact grenades
orbital napalm
eagle napalm
incinderiary mines
flame sentry

>>539666919
we get it nigga, you can do d10 drops without ever getting touched by anything and your cock is huge

>>539667415
Nope i can't, but war striders are literally easiest enemy there is, just walk away they wont ever hit you and ragdoll grenades do no damage

>>539667214
this >>539667391 but with the incendiary EAT instead of flamethrower

>>539667380
Seriously? So the Concussive doesn’t work if you’re the host or are you fucking with me?

>>539667214
pummeler
crisper
pineapples

ballistic shield
de-escalator
EAS
120

>>539667050
pummeler STUNS. Concussive doesn't do anything. As in, literally, it has no special effect on the bullet profile. It has higher than normal push force. Push force doesn't actually do anything against most enemies, just moves their model away from you if they are vulnerable to it.

>>539664349
And the funny thing is that just like most other studios that create a hit game, nobody is going to give a flying fuck about their new title and it will probably be DOA

>>539667214
siege ready
Ultimatum
Eruptor
Grenade Launcher
Portable hellbomb
380
Walking barrage
500kg

HMG magazines are gigantic yet you can carry multiple of them, but the AC clips are tiny yet you can only reload it if you carry the backpack

>>539667554
if you're 100m away from the host it will lose its ability to stun

>>539666112
And while I do love my Ultimatum, it would be nice to take something else against bots for a change. But any time I do it feels like dead weight.

>>539667706
>Concussive doesn't do anything. As in, literally, it has no special effect on the bullet profile. It has higher than normal push force. Push force doesn't actually do anything against most enemies, just moves their model away from you if they are vulnerable to it.
What the actual fuck are you kidding me? I thought this entire time the concussive was like a pummeler/cookout that flinched the enemies. I don’t know why I thought that.
THAT said, circles back around to what the FUCK is the point of the fucking Consussive??????? Seriously? It’s just a worse gun that doesn’t do anything?
Or did it get creeped/retronerfed by weapon customization because I notice it comes with a drum mag but now if you can put a drum mag on the vanilla liberator……
Seriously I think every weapon has some sort of niche in this game and it pisses me off if there’s ibsolete/bad weapons that are an all around downgrade with no silver lining to them.
I tjink the Adjudicator falls into this category now with the coyote’s existence (yeah they gave the coyote a 10x scope)

>>539666595
Nah. Tank busting is for Thermite (which i forgot to list like a tard)

>>539667937
The other guy says it doesn’t stun. Which is it?

>>539653846
Same. Popping an annihilator turret from hundreds of meters is probably the most fun I'll ever have in this otherwise mostly unsubtle spamslop.

>>539667874
you niggers genuinely don't know just how powerful AC actually is
if it lost its backpack it would give an unprecedented mogging to all other backpackless non-AT weapons

>>539668516
how many hours do you have in the game anon?
show your career page

How do I be a meta slave?

>>539668173
The LibConc is a weapon that had suffered from poor communication within the dev team.
From how it originally launched in its (most likely nonfunctioning) first iteration, it was supposed to be a low-DPS Liberator with AP3 explosive rounds, so it would have stagger and be effective against durable parts.
But it had NONE of those traits except for being low DPS and stagger, so they just removed explosive and medium armour penetration from its description, and left it as a sad and shitty weapon.

>>539668794
You put on the steel collar with the meta tag on it.

>>539668794
>whatch a 1 year old youtube guide on "meta loadout"
>use it on d6
>die a few times
congrats

>>539668794
Siege ready, engineer, or medic armor
Eruptor, Talon or Ultimatum, thermites
RR, your top2 sentries, and a red gem that can make detector towers go boom
on squids replace RR with autocannon and set to flak

>>539668801
Oh, right, it also didn't always have a drum magazine. That was a change that came later.
They also NERFED its push force for some reason.

>>539657630
When that post was made, the average anon was already level 150.

>>539668794
forget that there are support weapons other than the RR, grenades other than the thermite, primaries other than the crossbow and secondaries other than the ultimatum

>>539668980
>all the items you'll ever need
>barely 10 in a selection many times that size
OK giga grim maybe I have to give credit to anons that say loadout diversity is dead

I HATE THE ERUPTOR
IT HAS A FIRE SELECTOR ON THE MODEL AND ON THE WEAPON WHEEL, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY FIRE MODES OTHER THAN MANUAL ACTION. THE THEY PUT THE FUCKING MANUAL ACTION A MILLION MILES AWAY FROM YOUR HAND SO YOUR DUDE HAS TO AWKWARDLY FUCK AROUND WITH IT. IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH.

I'm so distraught bros.
Back in the day people were on high alert. AH's fuckery with the balance didn't slip past anyone.
Now alexus is free to boil the frog (and boil it he does) and he's getting away with it.

Stealth changes everywhere and no one to call him out.

>>539669186
it's a gun that feels like shit and should be shit as well but was made "good" through plebbitesque >muh bolter demands

>>539669270
It's not a bolter though?

>>539651878 (OP)
>tfw really liked diggers but didn't like Roaches
>AH finally fixes a networking problem with enemy desync but that makes diggers unplayable for your average pub (and causes the burrow attack to track you into the air, lmao)
>diggers are gone
>roaches remain
Fuark. I liked cavediving when it wasn't a spewer seed. I even finally got my Ultimatum just in time for them to get turned off.

I dont like how the AMR fires explosive rounds
it should just be a precision weapon that is really good at poking holes in things

>>539668173
As I said before. The whole gun is centered around what likely should have been an optional ammo type for the base liberator. But they decided to turn ammo types into individual guns for more content padding. Which is why we have multiple liberators, punishers and breakers.

Concuasive rounds would have been a dead pick on any gun. So would bird shot on the breaker. And those ammo types got ported to different guns and now they are dead picks

one thing I don't get is that all the bugs dig out of the ground, why is the Rupture strain unique

>>539654614
Born and raised on Mars, sir.
And I say: kill'em all!

>>539669425
It's a bolt operated bolter. (That feels like shit to use)

What is to be done about the Arrowhead problem?

>>539669218
Nah the community at large were a bunch of willfully ignorant asskissers from the start. And it's their default attitude still. The overall mood towards sw*doids didn't sour up until undeniably colossal fuckups like the PSN nonsense, EoF jank patch, and subsequent content drought occurred. And once the current drama is past they'll start deep rimming sw***sh assholes again. The only place pretty much that always called out the arrowhacks for what they are is this general. And even that has lessened. The ass kisser army has a presence here now too.

>>539669476
It doesn't fire explosive rounds. it has lower durable damage and the rounds are not HE.

How would Super Earth react to an alien race that embraces their brand of democracy? Let's say they look humanoid to a modest degree, but alien enough that it's obvious. If they wholeheartedly embraced the ideals of Managed Democracy, would we take them under our wing, or add them to our growing list of enemies?

>>539669785
>ass kisser army has a presence here now too.
It's just newfaggots. They'll learn over time why the Swede is hated.

>>539669742
Helldivers 3 but made by Koreans with S tier coding autism and professional honor
Snoy have the license, they have the capital, they only need to curate the talent and give the order.

>>539669785
Completely right, it was assfucked from the beginning and sycophants got established early. Even the 60 day patch was bullshit, they didn't go nearly far enough with it but people still couldn't line up to suck their cock fast enough for making a bunch of things minimally fucking viable

>>539669842
If they can be easily enslaved and be happy with being third class citizens Super Earth would probably be okay with letting them live.

>>539668516
What I mean is instead of losing its backpack, HMG should get a backpack and every support weapon that 'reloads' should be able to carry at least 1 extra clip.

Would the AC be overpowered if you could reload it only once with a backpack? Would it be OP if you could bring a supply backpack with it to get 4 extra mags instead of the usual amount? That's what I'm suggesting, more flexibility with the backpack weapons. Stalwart comes with 2 stalwarts - HMG and MMG come with backpacks that enable belt feeding - flamethrower comes with backpack that enables longer use (explodes when shot) - etc etc. I think the support weapons are just not as cool as they could be and their balance is inconsistent. The AC was a backpackless weapon in HD1 and it wasn't that good, granted you had to hold still while aiming it

>>539670104
What, you don't love pointless limitations? You don't want to be inconvenienced for zero conceivable reasons?

>>539670124
i dont think super earth is human supremacists considering we have niggers and other undesirables in the game

>>539670280
The ruling class is most likely rich old assholes, some furry ass aliens becoming citizens is a threat to their old rich asshole ways.

What is with the constant freezing after the recent patch? Was able to confirm it happens to me on PC, my friend on XBX & randoms in misc platforms. It varies from annoying 2 second freezes every now & then to unplayable 10 second freezes after every 10 seconds of gameplay.

>>539654614
Grand Errant. One day we'll get it back...

>>539670589
Could be network issue, my friend is from is middle east and he had this issue with cable fuckery was going on.
Once i (EU) started hosting it went away.

>>539670246
apparently they're retarded and can't do backpack-to-gun weapon feeds like that

>>539670246
Belt fed MG would be cool but imo the only cool way to do it would be to give the supply pack the ability to attach to any of the three MGs. I strongly believe this because a dedicated belt feed backpack to drop with the weapon can't really work in a team reload. and the team reload category should retain its integrity for future additions like rumbler. also the potential of getting TR'd lessens the price of not being able to use backpack stratagems.

>>539669597
they can dig horizontally. A unique trait among bugs.

>>539669218
even if something was stealth changed, it was something so niche/obscure that the people using said weapon might as well not exist
https://helldive.live/weapons

anyone wants to play?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244351791651/76561197993853021

>>539669609
Wiping out Mars off-screen was a fucking crime. Imagine the kino.

>>539670743
That's kind of crap if that's the case cause then it means one person with shoddy internet affects everyone in the lobby instead of just themselves cause the whole game hangs up when it happens with enemies freezing in place too.

I’m on ps5 and get disconnected every game now even ones where im the host

>>539671117
Yup, our whole lobby was freezing when it was happening to us.

>>539670748
Neither can Fatshark. Maybe it's the spaghetti engine making it difficult.

>>539670589
i have the same issue. It usually happens on third mission during an operation.

i do not know what i will use when the recoiless rifle gets nerfed

>>539670927
full

>>539671326
RR and AC are the very foundations of balance in this entire game and will only ever be tuned up

>>539670246
>clip
mag*

>>539671326
Take the Eat Ass Today - 17 pill

>>539661737
>And it can round numbers to zero, even if they are not a decimal, if the number is under ten and being affected by percentages.
Spore spewers have 2 armour and are 100% durable. Each breaker spray and pray pellet is AP2 and on paper does 4 durable damage. Since the pellets instantly loses 1 damage from rounding down the damage lost from drag even at point blank range it will do 3 damage, which is then reduced to 65% from the armour, putting it at 1.95 damage that gets rounded down to 1. This is as close to getting a damage number to 0 as I can think of that isn't just shooting heavy armour with light pen, so it definitely should be rounded down to 0 for being a value under 10 that is being reduced by a percentage, if the rounding really is that egregious.

Yet it doesn't seem to be the case as I was able to destroy this spore spewer with the spray & pray. The initial EAT shot was simply to expedite the process, reducing it from 2500 HP to 350 HP. Even at a range in excess of 200 meters the Spray & Pray was still able to destroy the spore spewer. I don't know how far you have to go to get the drag to reduce the damage low enough to get rounded off to 0, but it seems even at a range you would never reasonably engage targets at with a shotgun it's still not enough to completely eliminate the damage.

Rounding down disproportionally affects shotguns over other weapons, but they aren't rendered completely impotent and having their damage automatically and always rounded down to 0 if the combination of durability and armour penetration puts their actual damage below 10. Instantly losing 1 damage from drag and not meeting a breakpoint sucks for sure and should be fixed across the board, and in this particular case of shooting a 100% durable, 2 armour part and having the spray & pray lose half its damage sucks too, but it doesn't appear that the rounding is more aggressive than just rounding down to the nearest whole number.

>>539669186
the eruptor was the only thing saving my sanity during gloom launch

>>539671480
>webm shitposter
Don't care, didn't read.

>>539669597
my headcanon is such
normie bug moves through the ground like a turtle moves through water, it just lives in it, rupture nigga is more like a shark, it became the feared master of it
similar to how normie bugs are more like a stampeding horde of buffalo while predditors are equivalent to fending off chimps+hyenas, actual species nature built to outpace and maim you

>>539671438
wrong

>>539671653
u don't want this heat bro. Back off. This is my final warning

>>539671517
Well, my hatred is not on the performance side. It's entirely on my OCD flaring up at the role-model-animation mismatch.

>>539671856
i can agree with that

>>539671847
reloading my autocannon with my extended clipazine

>>539672040
yes that's a clip
hmg uses a mag
good boy

>>539671480
read

>>539669785
The asskissing is genuinely unreal at times, especially when you see them unironically saying shit like
>"Arrowhead has better player communication than 95% of studios"
When their level of player communication would be considered the bare minimum, even among AAA developers. The only ones worse at it are Japanese devs, but that's usually because of language barriers or that they at least try to release finished games and updates.

>>539670246
>The AC was a backpackless weapon in HD1
Is this why some PoIs have autocannons with no backpacks? leftovers from early development?

>>539671326
there's a shitton of AT options anon.
rocket/AC/mortar sentry, AT emplacement, thermites, pyros, Ulti, Eruptor, xbow, and that's aside the entire category of AT/AP4+ stratagems which is solid as all fuck. for me it's railgun+pyros+EAT or AC/AMR+thermites+EAT. ABRL for memes.

>>539654614
Draupnir.

>>539669842

Well seeing that SE was willing to at least tolerate the illuminate at first or at least that is the story they tell after the fact to their population....Maybe? yeah the masses opinions are all drones to what Strahmann news regurgitates but it says at least 'something' that they do frame illuminate as backstabbing them first says to me that the ran and file citizens needs a barest minimum more then naked chavinism offered up to be convinced to hate them.


"It’s not Super Earth that hates aliens, it’s that aliens hate democracy!"


The people(Voting ai?) who are actually in charge though might have more soberly fascistic intentions of culling and replacing them with humans regardless. Aliens will always be undemocratic, even if they were running a utopian democracy, which Super Earth most definately is no-[redacted] which would be the punchline.

IF the aliens was weaker, was entirely ready and able to buy in, prostrating themselves before them even in the face of multiple provocations and massacres...Maybe they would hand around as a slave caste. From there it would take some time enough SE's stock of people to cycle through to youth who don't know a time when the loyal sidekick aliens were not a thing.

how about a backpack stratagem that automatically reloads holstered weapons

>>539672228
credit where credit is due, leftists hit the mark when they coined the term toxic positivity, that shit is real as all hell and the damage in its wake is deeply felt. I blame reddit and dicksword. undiluted turbo cancer platforms.

>>539670246
>>539671653
stalwart, MMG, HMG, grenade launcher: reloads with belts
laser cannon: reloads with heatsink
AMR: reloads with magazine
recoilless rifle: reloads with shell
ABRL, SPEAR: reloads with rocket
flamethrower, epoch: reloads with fuel canister
WASP: reloads with canister/shell
Railgun: reloads with... I don't know a ferrous slug? a battery? definitely not a clip
De-escalator: reloads with individual grenades
AC: reloads with stripper clips

of all the support weapons only 1 actually uses clips to reload with

>>539672332
>Mortar sentry
>AP3
>anti-tank
Try again

>spawn as a black Helldiver
>immediately run into a landmine

>>539658331
>blatant railroading and changing rules on the fly
Not doubting you but can I get some examples? I'd like to know more

what did they do to the diggers? please, the oshaune /hdg/ lobbies were the most fun i had in a while...

>>539672687
I had the same idea, they could make it a guard dog and call it Fenris as reference to the cute af Mass Effect robodogs

>>539672852
hdg and reddit bitched about them too hard so they removed them for about 5 weeks (10 weeks if you count vacations)

>>539672774
only one uses a magazine

>>539672702
Both toxic positivity and toxic negativity are incredibly harmful for online discussions in pretty much the exact same way.
They prevent any and all opposing opinions from being shared, which in turn stops things from getting better. No kind of information or feedback can be gathered, because all of it is "everything is good/bad and we WON'T elaborate".

Arrowhead should try playing the game at some point

>>539672852
high command won't let us engage with the new strain for the moment because the buttcries about total mission failure and emptied super destroyers became a bit too frequent

>>539672852
Unplugged their life support because of crybabies. Next on the block are war striders because literal retards won’t bring AT weapons to missions where every enemy is made of communist super-steel.

Lobby doko

>>539673209
No, it's because they were spawning extra SC on planets that had the strain.

>>539673361
mfw post 5-week patch warstriders yield to 3 autocannon rounds

>>539673361
war strider literally take one shot to the joint from anything
they're just hulks but you have to aim a wee bit better
and god forbid you miss and hit the leg, just put another one in the leg and it's gone
it's the most basic bitch enemy

>>539673629
>you have to aim
sisters, downboat this bitch
you dare ask me to aim? what's next? you wanna make me shoot from distances greater than 20m too, don't you? fucking slaver nerftranny get off my dadgame REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>539673629
No it isn't

>>539673361
They won't remove war striders, because war striders are not causing extra SC to spawn on planets that have them.

>>539673996
i have more trouble with devastators than war striders

>>539673361
>enemy design is wildly out of line with the entire rest of the roster since the launch of the game
>HURR DURRR GIT GUD ANTI TANK HAS ALWAYS BEEN REQUIRED IM A RETARDED RR SPAMMING BRAINLET
Fuck off back to bugland you goddamn tourist.

>>539674139
Same, but shooting the hip joint isn't a 1 tap and leg isnt a 2 tap with a lot of support weapons

>>539673361
>>539674139
>Poorly designed enemy is easy
Yeah, THAT'S THE PROBLEM EVERYONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT.

How do I git gud vs war striders with AP4 weapons it feels like they're always too far away to get a good angle on the joints and if you're close enough to see it you get hit by grenade rain/bunker turrets
I love the RG but I don't wanna be a slave to thermites and reds to deal with those bastards I wanna be a cool dude who snipes them. Recently took an HMG to a war strider seed too and that weapon felt fucking worthless considering how many there are
Tell me your secrets AP4 anons

>coyote gets a 10x scope but the railgun doesn't
???

>>539673996
nta but it is very basic. same complexity as the rocket chicken. it has two attacks, three if you count the generic melee every bot has. crack a joint, bomb the crotch, or stick a thermite. don't get your balls caught in grenades or pew pews. not super hard, also quite survivable in good anti bot armor like heavy fortified. just adapt, anon.

I think it's funny how in the dispatch they blamed the Rupture strain for the p3rformance issues and said that's ehy they're removing them when it's actually a balancing thing

>>539674310
the secret is to just pretend it's really easy to kill them with various weapons instead of ignoring the ragdoll reality of a half dozen of them that need to be taken out yesterday and all are too shy to show you their panties

>>539674158
i played most of oshaune with the light pen shotty, they take two/three shots, especially when they pounce at you they show their bellies, you just have to dodge and shoot it's that easy

>>539674310
the secret is shoot the leg if you can't get an angle on the joint itself. same armour, same durability, just double the HP, but it's still better than shooting the crotch or upper torso

>>539674158
>is… is that an ARMORED enemy?!
>I can’t handle having to change my loadout in any way FUCKING SWIGGERS
Also “wildly out of line,” you are a STUPID motherfucker and should drink drain cleaner immediately.

>>539674472
you can win by running actual circles around this slow and practically blind enemy so stfu

>>539674351
Aparently, they said that the railgun (one round charge-burst-reload) is would invalidate the anti-material rifle (seven round tapfire-sustained-reload) if it had a good scope. Nonsense from retards.

>War Strider leg joint armour reduced from 4 to 3
there, it now has a weakpoint that's weaker than the heatsink of tanks and all you had to do was change literally 1 number

>>539674596
you can win by running away and around everything in the game
but can you have fun in the process

>Drakeroach wing gets clipped
>it crashes
>transforms into a faster, fire breathing bile titan after amputating its own now busted wings like so.

You can't tell me that wouldn't be kino

>>539674669
>NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>YOU CAN'T DOOOOOOOOO THISSSSSS
>NOW THE ENEMY THAT'S ONESHOT BY A RR CAN BE TRIVIALIZED NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW I'M A HARDCORE GAMER IF THEY CAN KILL IT TOO

>>539674673
I've had less fun with bots when I pitied them for being unable to pose any threat or defense against a single semi-skilled diver. Warstriders went one little step towards changing that and reddit goes mad. it's pathetic. they should uparmor all the other bots instead of listening to buffdiver faggot whiners that need everything dead within a femtosecond of engaging it.

>>539674669
>undocumented
>main health increased from 3,500 to 6,500
>100% durable on all body parts
>increased joint health from 750 to 900

I don't get blaming specifically the strider for ragdolling, every single enemy in the bot roster ragdolls you, down to the fucking basic soldier throwing a grenade
why have a melty over the strider specifically?

>>539675018
Because it being fully-armored like an actual war machine makes crybabies melt down

>>539674956
>hip joint durable increased to 100%
>hip joint explosive DR increased to 100%
>extra undocumented change: hip join hitboxes modified to be extreme angles from the front and back

>>539669597
I think the idea is that normal bugs are popping up from burrows and pre-existing tunnels that are already webbing underneath the planet's surface.

Rupture bugs are straight up sand sharkin' it.

>>539675018
because the strider only has to hit you once and it will stunlock you and start juggling you around until you die,

>>539673629
>war strider literally take one shot to the joint from anything

>enemy is oppressive when you don't have the appropriate weapon or tool to deal with it quickly, or at all
why is this a problem? isn't that how it should be?

>>539675018
because they shit out a gorillion ragdolling grenades (this would be fine alone) but also have the gall to have their other weapon also 50/50 ragdoll or instagib you. And because ragdolling stops being the pinnacle of all humour eventually, and instead when you get bounced around over 10 seconds you just wish you could play the game or die.

are you coming back libconchad?
crashed?

I think they should like reduce the ragdolling for the warstrider's cannons and redo them somehow, I think the enemy's main function is forcing you out of cover since it lobs a bunch of grenades when you take cover, but the cannons ragdolling you so much when you DO leave your cover kinda sucks. I think it should be more forcing you out of it to be killed by the other Automaton units, not doing everything itself. Yeah it like functionally makes sense that they wouldn't hyperspecialize and logically they would make it have both the cover punish and leaving cover punish, they're trying to kill you, but like still it kinda sucks how like battlefield defining the Warstrider is just by itself, it feels like the other units stop mattering as much when it comes to decision-making when one shows up

>>539675743
crashed, yes

>>539675640
No, actually, lock and key enemy design is bad.

>>539675824
name a game with good enemy design

>>539675772
>>539675743
your lobby is friends/invite only

>>539675018
Pretty much every other bot has gaps in its attacks, giving you a bit of breathing room to counterattack.
The war strider just... doesn't. If it isn't shooting its main cannons (which ragdoll on a miss lmao), then it's covering a city-block sized area in grenades (that also ragdoll you, what a surprise).

>>539654101
>Haha I like cock and ball torture, I'm a real gamer I want more
>What's that? You don't like getting sodomized with a sandpaper dildo? Haha, guess you just need to get good

Kill yourself.

>>539675948
Helldivers 2 Bots (Minus Warstrider)

>>539675750
They addressed the ragdolling on the control group patch. They reduced the time to get up from 0.8 to 0.5 seconds. They don't understand what causes the ragdoll stunlock, aparently.

>>539675954
weird I didn't change any settings
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244351791651/76561197993853021

>I should be able to fight a tank with small arms or it’s lock-and-key design
You faggots are insufferable

>>539676050
Can they make it so that there needs to be an actualy amount of damage done to cause ragdolling? Getting ragdolled by something that doesn't even perceptibly damage you sucks.

I do not like war striders.
Their visual design does not clearly accentuate their weak spot(singular): They have glowing 'eyes' on the torso and "head" that are similar to the hulk's/fac striders, but are not weak points at all, which easily misdirects any novice that didn't look in the wiki to know otherwise; Their real weak spot is a tiny, dark joint in between the legs that is barely even visble most of the time and cannot even be reliably sniped from a distance as the legs and crotch are often in the way.
In addition, war striders are the first ever enemy in the entire game other than leviathans that are entirely heavy armor or above. This makes every support weapon other than heavy AT do 65% damage by default, but even worse, even their weak spot is 80% durable at best, meaning an even larger fraction of the damage of an AMR,Autocannon, HMG, Railgun, or other weapon is entirely negated. For an example, using the HMG you need 20 shots on this tiny joint to do the necessary damage to kill it. Assuming you can somehow keep perfect aim on this tiny weak spot using this weapon on the default fire rate (600RPM, good luck), you'll need 2 entire seconds of sustained fire on target to kill. For comparison, an anihilator tank's vent takes 22 shots to kill while being much larger than the war strider's hip joint, much easier to hit by not having tons of shit on the way, as well as literally GLOWING to indicate it is a weak spot.

Furthermore, in the offensive war striders have grenades. To be clear, this is a ragdolling weapon that is:
1. Numerous like the rocket barrages from devastators and gunships (fucking 16 at once)
2. Don't need LoS like the mortars and rocket tanks, meaning you can't take cover from them
3. are infinite, like bunker turrets and cannon turrets that never run out of ammo
4. are spammed nearly constantly.
This is an infuriating combination and I struggle to believe anyone actively enjoys fighting.

>>539676050
That's not good

>>539676165
The Finns beat Russian tanks with molotov cocktails.

You niggers should hang

>>539674310
AC and AMR are the only really worthwhile AP4 Support weapons vs Striders and even those have relatively poor shots-to-kill values vs every part including the joints which require 5/6 shots for each of them, or 2x as much to take out a leg. The LC is... workable against Striders, but still not great in general.
HMG is unfortunately awful vs War Striders, you need around 21 shots to a joint to destroy it and with the recoil pattern the HMG has it's not really practical. 42 shots for the leg is also not particularly encouraging even though it is a much easier target to score consecutive rapid hits against.
If you're not using the AC or AMR or a higher-pen AT launcher your best bet is to just bring EATs and use them on CD to litter the map with disposable canisters of Strider'B'Gone.

>>539675018
shrimple
because the warstrider is a mighty hurdle for enjoyers of what I perceive as "light food" items, for some examples dickle, muh sheen gun forty three, chudwart, pissbeam cannon, which are(were) wildly popular choices among botdivers
meanwhile the AP4/AT crowd are disposing of warstriders with relative ease which is perceived as unfair because those weapons only ever got even more important (this was predictable)
alongside all that you get the standard crybabies that die 7 times minimum any mission because they have an allergy like avoidance of any item that could be categorized as defensive/survival

>putting down war striders with the HMG
It can be done on paper, but has anyone tried it for real?

>>539676286
*a finger on the monkey's paw curls*
Wish granted, now they balance enemies that are supposed to ragdoll you by making them do more damage and end up 2 shooting you anyway instead

>>539676440
>ignores the fact that most tanks were immobilized with mines or other explosives
>or antitank rifles
>thus still highlighting the importance of AT weapons when facing heavy armor
YOU are a RETARD and should deploy your hellpod off a bridge.

>>539676637
you get ragdolled/killed before you can do anything of importance

>>539676165
Yes.

>>539675948
Deep Rock Galactic, for the most part.
Not Rogue Core, though.

>>539676637
actually easy if you're the right kind of player for HMG, that is a person with aim and an ADHD level sufficiently low enough to go prone + FPV

>>539677028
This is literally me. I like to set up a good position and provide support fire.

>>539676847
If you can't beat a tank with pic related then your game isn't a proper milsim.

>>539676637
please fuck off and stay fuck off

>>539676847
Can you immobilize a war strider with AT mines, or an anti-tank rifle (the anti-materiel rifle)? Oh yeah, you can't. You can break the treads off the real, well designed tanks with the AMR. And then shoot its big heatsink with the AMR to kill it in like 3 shots.

All NIGGERS must FUCKING HANG

>>539677028
>ADHD level low enough to go prone + FPV
doing more actions is the ADHD thing to do retard

>AMR
>Railgun
>Grenades Launcher
>Stalwart
>MMG
>Laser Cannon
>Flamethrower
>Arc Thrower
>De-Escalator
>One True Flag
>Sterilizer
>"Actually it is completely fine if all these support weapons sucks."
What did FaggotHead mean by that?

>>539677198
in my experience hyperactive niggas hate to do anything that requires them to stop for a moment

>>539677214
laser cannon and grenade launcher are pretty fun and usable thoughbeit

>>539676637
The only reliable way I've been able to do it is to get behind them. Good luck doing that if there's like 4 of them. Takes 21 shots. Most of your shots end up in the leg or crotch instead of the joint because of how laggy the hitboxes are

>>539677214
The railgun & mechs are supposed to be "end-game" stratagems, why the fuck would they get nerfed if by that point you grinded enough xp and req to get them

>>539677189
Strange melty to have, but you did it anyway. Good for you, anon.

>>539677281
>stop for a second
you mean
>dive prone
>FPV
>epic kill in seconds
>stand up and run
cmon anon if you aren't playing HMG like this you've been missing out since it launched

>>539677415
your behaviour on the other hand is completely common for a retarded faggot.

>>539677196
>let me move the goalpost
Get your stepdad’s gun and end it all, you monkey.

>>539677342
Good to know. Guess I’ll give it a try.
>>539677512
>this mad over a question
Wew, enjoy your hypertension

>>539677472
I prefer to solve the whole mission from the same comfy hill. No movement, just chill & kill from muh hill. More a hellcamper than a hellhiker. Different folks.

>>539677562
I'll impale your ugly rectum on a goalpost you moon cricket

>>539676297
lower the difficulty

>>539677801
That's how me granda died...

>>539675824
left4dead and its consequences have been a disaster for the co-op shooter genre

>>539674310
As someone who's become a Railgun affecionado, the solution is very similar to my solution to Fleshmobs. Ignore them and just keep moving because killing them is a waste of time given they'll spawn faster then you can take them out, except you use the Ultimatum instead of Gas Nades for the ones that you can't.

>>539676297
I just shoot it with the recoilless rifle and it dies

>>539670743
It's not network shit. Its been happening to me for months and I almost always play solo. In my experience it is connected to the sound issues. It usually triggers when explosions go off. It starts out slow and then progressively gets worse and worse usually ending in a crash if you dont restart the game. And its really bad in bot mega-cities.

Barely anybody has been playing bot mega cities or bots much for the last few months, but i have been playing them almost exclusively and I just restart the game when it starts to happen. but now that everybody is they are seeing the issues that have been present in the game for months. These freezes and crashes are probably causing all sorts of DCs and crashes for people playing multiplayer.

>>539676297
i just run away and it despawns

>>539678361
I never had it happen outside of bots you might be right, we also concluded that it only happens with bots.
I dont know why me hosting fixed the issue however

>>539676297
I think grenade attack is cool but the arm cannons are awful.

>>539678520
I've been playing some bugs a little bit, and while I did notice some audio issues it did not seem to cause the same stuttering and freezing. But I haven't been playing the squids at all so I dont know if it happens there.

>>539677214
the only weapons in that list that suck are the one true flag and the sterlizer

>>539677214
>AMR
Railgun but worse
>Railgun
AMR but better
>Grenade Launcher
Total terminid death
>Stalwart
"I don't need AT because I brought the Eruptor"
>MMG
The unloved middle child
>Laser Cannon
The unloved cousin of the unloved middle child
>Flamethrower
Torcher's older brother who dropped out of college to pursue a career as a professional dropout
>Arc Thrower
The quiet kid that makes people jump when he reaches into his backpack
>De-Escalator
Arc Thrower's retarded little brother
>One-True Flag
Buried in a shallow grave
>Sterilizer
Nobody bothered to bury them, left in Arrowhead's basement

>>539678019
the guns in L4D barely mattered

>>539679180
exactly

>>539678301
that is the most effective way to deal with them by far yes, but I would like to bring weapons other than heavy AT to the bot front without entirely kneecapping myself on the event its a war strider seed
>>539678373
can be applied to any enemy in the bot front but it is neither fun nor always reliable (sometimes you have to stand and fight for an objective or extract)
>>539678656
Their main cannons aren't as bad. They direct fire bunker-turret shots with worse accuracy and a generous fire interval, meaning you can take cover after between baiting their bursts.

>>539678991
the sterilizer needs a longer lasting "fire" effect that sticks to the ground like a bug repellant, in that it both creates a line-in-the-sand barrier that discourages enemies from crossing it and confuses the ones that do
this, and double the range on the fucking thing would make it a good solution to crowd control, the thing its supposed to be fucking for

>>539679265
they weren't trying to pretend to, just to have enough differences to have preferences
l4d would not be improved if the hunting rifle was necessary to kill the tank

>>539679453
but it would be improved if the hunting rifle with precision shots to the head was better at killing them than other weapons

>>539677214
Grenade launcher is based if you build around it
LC was pretty good against bots if you could aim for weakpoints until the war strider shoved it back into the locker

>>539679580
why would that be better than buckshot to the head or 2 rounds of AK ammo etc

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244361403145/
less arguing more lobby

>>539679794
I want a exoskeleton/power armor stratagem

>>539679923
Done, it downgrades your armor to light, makes you slower but gives you ragdoll resistance

>>539680027
Worth it

>>539680057
you can only use onehanded weapons and it takes support slot

is ohdough just shit at the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKsXez0UCjU

>>539675824
i agree mostly
as it is, you are discouraged from deviating from cc+anti-tank loadouts for every diver
I don't think it should be possible to kill a dragonroach with a liberator or anything, but someone skilled should be able to put one down with 3 AMR headshots
its absolutely bizzare to me they made a flying bug tank and you can't destroy their wings (litterally begs for airburst utility) to ground them for a stunned/writhing animation. Its like they just ignored 20 years of monster hunter doing exactly this when you break wings.

>>539680220
he's better than the devs

>>539680220
it would be best not to give attention
you buy these people rent/groceries when you do
if you don't like them, starve them

I like how silo cucks point out it can btfo bunkers when thermites can do the same & ATe can solve a bunker mission in far less time than it takes for the silo to cd once

>>539680285
these are the same retards that asked why we were shooting charger legs instead of their heads with AT when a single shot to the head didn't fucking kill them
they are utter imbeciles and all good design is accidental

>>539679794
2/4
Come on people, lets play the game!

>nobody gives a fuck
I don't know what AH expected

>>539680220
Who cares? His points are all correct.

>>539680661
>"go do this thing for a vague reward"
Oh shit there could be new content over there!
>"its not new content"
Oh well fuck that then.

>>539680527
bunkers have been trivial for a very long time. they should put a jammer and a forcefield on every bunker so you have to shut it down before you can destroy it

>>539680220
my favourite part is when he very incorrectly says light pen weapons damage is being reduced to 65% because of how durability works when in reality that's what it gets reduced to for armour penetration matching armour value. despite having thousands of hours in the game and making a living off it he gets basic shit completely wrong

>>539680661
I've been running D10s on Varylia to spite the devs but i'm actually spiting myself by doing so

>>539680568
>>539680285
>we will never have the catharsis of downing a dragonroach and having all four people rush up to cook it with flamethrowers while it flails on the ground
why do i even play this game

Every time I find a new weapon or warbond lr stratagem or whatever that I like/is good, the person I play with gets it too and so we always have the exact same build
It's kinda annoying

>>539681008
>anon discovers the meaning of "meta"

>>539680704
even if hes a correct about the problems, hes a solofag and his solutions are fucking terrible because of it

>6K people on Erata Prime, just some random bug planet
>2K people on the hive world, where the most newest content is
Good job arrowhead. Really killing it.

>>539681153
Why is the metal just whatever I like?

>>539679794
2/4 still.
I'm gonna play in 10 minutes regardless.

>>539680661
I can't wait for Joel to go "eh, close enough" and autocomplete it.

what do they do

>>539680220
Swedes killing things that are fun for the sake of their 'realism' is retarded, I can agree with that. Hang Alexus.

>>539681528
monkey paw railcannon with acceptable cooldown but no power

>>539681528
hit 2 out of 6 on the same part and then whiff the other 4

>>539681528
fail to kill hulks mostly, why?

>>539681528
Sometimes they do something sometimes they don't. They're consistently inconsistent which makes them a perfect representation of Arrowheads design philosophy

>>539681528
these were actually good for killing tanks and cannon towers before the 60 day patch. I took them instead of the strafing run on bots

>>539679794
wow, actually full

>>539652371
Its already like this. 1-5 are tutorial/solo difficulties. 6-10 are multiplayer difficulties.
If you can solo a D6, you have the strength of two helldivers.

>>539681947
what if i can solo fullclear d9 no matter what and solo fullclear d10 when the enemy constellation is not ballbustingly ass

I've been doing bugs for so long I forgot how much the bots love to ragdoll the fuck out of you

>>539680661
>d-don't you want to fail the entire MO for temporary stratagems that will barely last through failing the MO?! Please! you HAVE to get off Mintoria, there's not enough content to pad the week out!! PLEASE!!!!!
no more joelish tricks

>>539681528
they miss everything but buildings
once needed 3 uses to kill 1 hulk and never used them again

>>539681227
I think most quick join heroes don't actually know what to do at Oshaune then leave

There could be one weapon that one shots every enemy in the game with every other weapon being unusable garbage and people would tell you to lower the difficulty if you thought this was bad design

>content being removed at rapid pace
>the game is breaking
>p2w
>will wipe your computer
Yep dead game drg won soon this thread will die and drg will dominate like it always has

>>539681227
>>539683041
it should be noted that Oshaune is literally impossible to capture or remotely influence while Erata is one of two Helmire buffering choices, and although having a higher -1.67% resistance than Estanu to the right or Bore Rock in other the left hand Gloom lane buggers were pushing til now, might actually conceivably start to move once there isn't a bot MO.

Bugniggers are in this case wholly correct for not throwing themselves against the game's most obvious storygated brick wall to instead join botniggers in trying to grab a smart buffer planet that Joel arbitrarily will not allow them to have probably.

>>539683754
you're going to get shot to death in your home by INTERPOL gucci

>>539683662
Why not just use that weapon?

>>539682831
>Don't you wanna liberate a planet only for the Jet brigade to take it back on the next MO?

>>539683754
>content being removed at rapid pace
>the game is breaking
>p2w
>will wipe your computer
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong thread, /dg/ is two blocks down

>>539681227
They removed the SC from oshaune.

>>539681227
Honestly I can live without shitty caves and the bugged as fuck dragons

>>539680220
>let me slurp up some of that swigger slop
he is right about everything

>Halo warbond comes out
>freeform MO
>Maximum players
>Sand people warbond comes out
>shitty plot MO
>Minimum players

>>539674537
Oh good I could still find your smoothbrain response hours later.

The bot front has always felt the best because you are not required to bring AT to deal with any enemy. No shit it makes dealing with heavies easier but it was never required because everything had a weakpoint. The War Strider doesn't have one. A weak point implies an AV lower than the rest, or at the very least, low durable HP. The hip joint sucks as a weakpoint just due to how the damn thing moves and the attacks it uses.

Literally all it needs is for the back vents that are fully modeled as vents to be bot vents like every other bot unit, or for the eye/slit to act like the hulk slit. That's it. Now it can be annoying and ragdolly and spammy and deadly, but at least you can deal with it the same way you can deal with every other heavy on the bot front.

I want the bugs to take Terrek back, I like the meteors

>>539682416
>all missions given minimum of 20 divers (reinforcements) + 4 divers at the start
>D1 has the strength of 24 divers
>24 divers x D10 = 240 divers
>10 SEAF = 1 Helldiver
You have the strength of 2400 SEAF.

>this numbskull is still seething about having to bring AT to bot missions hours later
Lmao what an embarrassing faggot.

Why is Turing still in this sector? They're completely disconnected now and so it's really weird that they would be considered part of the same strategic zone

>>539685510
grunt fantasy btw

There's really people hear who haven't completed a D10 without AT?

>>539685510
I watched an entire squad of SEAF get fire-roasted by a Hulk while I reloaded last night

>>539685002
>all it needs is-
back vent protected from the front by a newly individually destructible crotchplate that you crack if you want to brute force it frontally
front hip vents protected from behind/sides by existing rear greaves that you crack if you want to brute force it from behind
lower leg servos protected by existing calf greaves, limps then kills like Hulk legs
front optics that kill outright, top optics that debuff aim and cause berserk
hip joint made of structural rather than armor steel with AP and durability ratio to match
the War Strider is now as close to perfectly fully interactive as it will ever be

returning player
Did they nerf the orbital airburst at some point? It feels weaker now than it was on launch. Or am I just misremembering it...

>>539685764
>hear
Opinion discarded SAAR

>>539685764
I haven't even unlocked d10>>539685743

>>539685872
Same but Xbox players

Got the helldivers Xbox port so I can experience some progress again and I am fully convinced that the Devs balance the game around consoles cause it's actually a bit of a challenge. No shit PC feels like a cakewalk

>>539686568
But I am an Xbox player, anon

>>539681528
They used to be THE anti turret+tank Eagle on the bot front. Throwing them within 30m of one would result in a guaranteed kill on a tank or turret, and could even soften up other heavies.
But then retarded bugdivers complained that it didn't instakill chargers or bile titans, so Arrowhead reworked them.
By cutting their damage by over half and gutting their targeting.
Now, the only thing they can do is kill tanks (if you get it directly on top of one). Anything else, it'll either miss, plink off of their armour, or soften them a bit.

>>539685661
>Why is Turing still in this sector?
Changing the sector boundaries would break automaton grenades, causing a blue screen when they land on a hill facing southwest.

>accidentally tk a guy
>say nothing and reinforce him instantly
rate my morals

>Play on hard difficulty
>Game is hard

You know those assholes who insist that every speed camera is personally out to get them, and when you ask if they were speeding, they stutter and deflect the conversation?
It's like that. These players willingly play on the hardest difficulties, when there are TEN difficulty levels in the game. These same people then proceed to whine and bitch about MUH BALANCE and MUH SPAWNS. There isn't even a real incentive to play the top difficulties, as all the samples can be obtained from 6+ I think.

Lower. The. Difficulty.

>>539688660
>didn’t say “Affirmative!”
>didn’t salute
7/10, Unremarkable Apology

dragons are badly designed and bugged on all difficulties though
you can't lower bad enemy design and zero QA away

>>539688962
>Enemies would actually be harder if they were properly designed
>faggot would rather just kill them with one RR from the front
Poser.

I sneed the gigaluger hand autocannon with 20000m range + full blown demo force and flak
it wouldn't be more OP than ultigaytum or loyalist
gibe

>>539681528
they make the commando alright on bugs

lobby time
D10 bugs
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244371969210/76561198289235774

>>539681528
Consistent against fabs, tanks, and cannon turrets, inconsistent against everything else. I use them for the above mentioned on bots when i'm not using RR. Loses value when your team brings it's own AT

>>539688962
>If i can't do it, everyone else can't.
>If i'm struggling, everyone else is
>if i'm miserable, so everyone else must be

I had the fair share of these "people" in my life and i cut them ALL off.
Also the real problem isn't much the fact that they live in their own head, but the fact that usually they are entitled animals

>>539681528

piss me off when I accidentally select them when I wanted airstrike

>>539690128
2/4

>>539690128
full

>>539688962
>You know those assholes who insist that every speed camera is personally out to get them, and when you ask if they were speeding, they stutter and deflect the conversation?
I've met these guys, they usually respond with something like "What are you, some cuck that does whatever the government says?"

So are the wings doing nothing an intentional design choice or a bug?

Imagine arrowhead responds with

>we hear your complaints about the war strider encouragin AT meta
>as a result it now takes 3 rockets to down a war strider, to keep it in line with the TTK of other support weapons.

I would laugh.

I see a lot of bitching about performance lately. Am i the only one who has zero performance issues? I am using 1080p - native render scale - high preset. I had major trouble in the past, especially in the jungle biome and urban tilesets but nowadays i am getting a fairly consistent 120fps. At least, until it drops to 0fps because the current patch is randomly freezing my entire OS.

>>539669036
lvl 150 wasnt even a thing on release, of course you wouldn't know that

>>539691965
>Zero performance issues
>randomly freezing my entire OS.
strongest Arrowhead QA tester

>>539653547
inspired doesn't mean 1 to 1
get your grunt fantasy someplace else

>>539691571
Intentional, but they'll say it was a bug and wasn't their fault.

>>539691965
>tfw you have zero issues, other than the game nuking your computer
It's just destroying the entire system. No big deal. Can't afford a new computer every time you boot up helldivers? What are you, poor?

>>539691965
Considering that my mid-tier PC is able to get a pretty solid 60FPS at 1080p, I'm convinced that everyone complaining about it is trying to play this game using 2017 hardware.

>When you're 5 medals, 3 super samples and 15 rare samples into a mission and you CTD
My friend ragequit earlier and I kept going but I don't want to play anymore after that.

Honestly dunno whats worse with bots. Getting constantly ragdolled by distant rockets or dying instantly to distant rockets

why would you design an enemy like this

>>539693289
If you're Swedish this is as natural as breathing

>>539692565
You misquoted me. I was talking specifically about performance issues. I wouldn’t classify freezes or crashes as performance issues. Stability and render performance aren’t necessarily correlated. But your ignorance made me realize that maybe this is where some the complaints about performance are coming from.

>>539692729
Considering how many "people" had melties about AVX2 you're somewhat correct except the hardware is more like c.2011~2013.

>>539692012
>retarded newshit thinking level 80 was a thing when level 150 wasn't

>>539693289
Incompetence.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244376254584/
d10 bogz

>>539693757
3/4

why is the impact damage so ridiculously high

>>539693428
>his computer crashing due to the game is not a game performance issue
So, this is the mind of a glazediver?

no game in history has ever been improved by increasing fall damage

>>539693757
3/4 diving in 3 mins

>>539688962
They.
Spawn.
The.
Same.
On.
5.

>>539692012
>>539657630
>retard is retarded
And water is wet, but someone has to remember for you, I guess.

>>539693757
3/4 diving now

>>539686109
They changed the way it spawns. It comes in at a gay angle based off the ship

They need to raise the level cap
I'm sure I'm already level 200 with how much exp I have

>>539694456
He's just saying that performance and stability are different and they shouldn't necessarily be conflated.
Especially since if it's his entire PC crashing then that probably means its fucking GameGuard being GameGay and not HD2 specifically, and he should try reinstalling GameGuard specifically.
I have no idea why they chose this shitty Korean malware that's mostly just used for old kMMOs, it was probably just cheaper than licensing EAC and Dinnerjani thought he was getting a good deal.

>>539694918
im pretty sure i'd be around lvl 300 so I'd prefer they keep it at 150

>>539694918
Plenty of anons in here that would already be level 1000+

>>539688962
its an ego thing
the idea of not being able to solo diff 10 content at high resistance tears their sense of self worth to shreds and they physically cannot do with it.
Thats why certain 'tubers throw an absolute shitfit when you make an enemy thay can't be one shot railgun's from the front
>oh but the weakspots are super hard to hit on everything else and it takes tons of skill! (not really)

i dont want to solo d10 i want to play a multiplayer game

>>539695349
d10 solo is too much time pressure anyway, the patrician solo diff is 9

>>539694815
Tbf he didn't wanna play a shit game so I can't blame him

>>539695349
then do that and let someone else use RR for warstriders
you don't have to have a kit that can kill every enemy when you're in multiplayer

>>539695349
What does this game do to even reward teamwork outside DPS? (Which gets offset by spawning more shit).

>>539695657
it's fun

Cool meta. Love to see it.

I think war striders are fine. The only problem is that they entirely replaced tanks. Why did they replace tanks? Have you seen any? I haven’t.
I agree the heat vent should be a weak point for the sake of consistency, but I could live without it from a balance angle.

I take arc pack to all factions
it teamkills just the same

>>539695924
>I think war striders are fine.

>>539695848
Where do you see this info?

>>539696052
i think they are fine too
dragon roaches on the other hand need a tune-up

>>539696047
Are arctists worse than flaggots?

>>539693289
When you don't hire competent developers because they might make you look retarded in comparison because you are.

>>539696242
Helldive.live

>>539686109
Don't know when you returned from but the changes since launch were 120s -> 100s cooldown and 4 bursts instead of 3 but with an extra second between bursts; I got confused by the 4th burst back in Jan

>>539695848
who the hell is using quasar
that thing is shit balls useless

>>539696382
People that want to play RR gameplay but also want a backpack I'm assuming.

>>539694951
It's completely retarded for them to use it in the first place, since all it's even doing is seeing if you're running fucking CheatEngine and closes the game if you are.

>>539696382
People who don't want to call down and pick up EATs and then pick their real support weapon back up after. They just want a permanent EAT that they don't have to fuck with, and they don't really care how bad it is as a cost.

>>539695848
charts aren't the same as meta, items are mainly picked for ease of use and low penalty for whiffs, not power level
sole exception being the silo which is only there due to being new
there's a whole range of vastly underrated stratagems that retards just don't use

>>539696382
Never used it much myself but why is it considered useless? I feel like it'd be pretty nice to have an unlimited ammo AT weapon with a free backpack slot

>>539696382
Quasar is pretty good, what do you dislike about it? It's really armored piercing, has infinite ammo, you can fire way more often than EAT, it's super accurate, it can take out bot fabricators and close bugholes in a pinch, leaves backpack slot open
It's really versatile

>>539695657
Playing as a fireteam is more fun than playin le ebin supersoldier solo mode imo

>>539696382
it's the better of the two dedicated backpackless AT options
>b-but EAT
just use QC and EAT, it's not like they're mutually exclusive like mechs

>>539696739
>why is it considered useless?
you have to have to have the ability to extrapolate 3 seconds into the future

>everyone i know decided to ditch helldivers after hive worlds update.
I hate swedes. The amount of bugs, broken audio, shitty new enemies and performance issues and nerfs introduced from "bug fixes" and :reworks" finally broke the camel's back.

>>539695848
Very healthy and diverse meta

>>539696739
>why is it considered useless
It's not. It's an EAT on a 30 second cooldown with 0 drop and absurd projectile velocity. It's fine. It's just a bit cumbersome due to the charge up.

>>539696958
What does this post mean....

>>539647115
>"statfags"
NIGGA ITS HIS JOB TO BE A STATFAG. WHAT DO YOU MEAN

>>539696739
call-in and firing cooldown is atrocious, can't break charger backs in one hit, 4+ (more than four!) needed for warstriders and head hits on factory striders, AH's pattented inconsistency means you can sometimes one shot a shrieker nest node sometimes not, the only thing i will vouch for it on is squid walkers

>>539697557
>can't break charger backs in one hit
It one-shots them to the face so that's pretty whatever.
>4+ (more than four!) needed for warstriders and head hits on factory striders
You just shoot war striders in the nuts like you do with anything else. You're basically never supposed to shoot a warstrider in the face.

Dunno how it does against factory striders. My buddy uses it to scrape off turrets for us normally.

>>539696624
This. I consider the Quasar mandatory on hive planets because you have an infinite anti-tank weapon in caves.

I also drop down two at evac site and hot swap them against dragons / heavies. You get a decent rate of fire as the one on the ground cools down. Pretty darn effective if you have the discipline to constantly cycle them.

OP is a faggot

>>539695848
I use the 500, quasar, rocket sentry, and orbital gatling, it's a great loadout on all front

>>539688962
>>539695148
>

>>539696958
I understood this post

I think its pretty based that everyone just doesnt give a fuck about the extra objective. It'll be the next filler MO anyway

>>539696793
I think lasers are gay
I'll try it anyway

>>539697086
>check all the factions on that site
>the only difference is bugs have the gas grenade in second place instead of HE

>>539698160
>still not buffed

>xbox players review bombing the game
>80k steam players gone in less than a month
>jewtubers stoking the flames with negative videos
>review scores on steam are dropping
Please God make Sony use this as an opportunity to shitcan Arrowhead

>>539696382
It's an infinite ammo hitscan rocket launcher with zero drop. Sure, it has a charge time, but it basically oneshots whatever the fuck it hits so that doesn't matter too much.
>b-but le cooldown!
RR has a long-ass stationary reload, and EAT has a 60 second cooldown.

It's perfectly fine for anti-tank, and exceeds when taking out fabricators as you can snipe them from render distance with it.

>>539698137
botdivers fell for it last time with that stupid ass side obj with the last MO where it had the
>"HOLY SHIT, HELLDIVER! THERES SOME VAGUELY IMPORTANT STUFF HERE! OOPS! YOU FAILED! NOW NOTHING HAPPENS!"
Never again.

>>539698331
Yeah feel the same. Fuck ehm and their stupid ass side games

>>539680220
This video is popping off. I wonder if swiggers will at least watch it.

>>539698234
>Sony kicks out Arrowhead
>puts Bungie in charge
something something le monkey's paw makes a fist

>>539680995
I think he was saying that ap3 gets reduced by ap3 targets

>>539695510
>actually it's fine and fair to be an aggressive retard revisionist lying on the internet when evidence that you are a lying niggerfaggot are everywhere

>>539698670
I know nothing about Bungie, are they as bad at coding as the swedoids?

>>539698147
I also think that, I wish I didn't like the Quasar because I wanted a big gun, but I prefer it and it's kinda what ibwanted from the railgun or anti material rifle, slow but big damage single shots

Finally got 1000 SC.

Which warbond pack should I get?

Debating the following:
- New Desert Dune
- Save up for Halo
- Masters of Ceremony (Dickle One)
- Gas One
- Teleport Backpack One

Thanks Frens!

>>539697557
>can't break charger backs in one hit,
why are you shooting the back and not the head or ass if you only have a rear shot?
>4+ (more than four!) needed for warstriders
a single shot to the crotch or leg will do it and 2 to the upper body. not sure where this 4+ comes from
>and head hits on factory striders,
2 to the eye kills factory striders
>AH's pattented inconsistency means you can sometimes one shot a shrieker nest node sometimes not
each shrieker nest mushroom has 2500 HP and the quasar does 2000 damage shot. if you're one-shotting them it's because they've already taken damage from something, it's not random inconsistency

hold on, anon, you know we're talking about the quasar, right? the quasar being the infinite ammo no backpack energy anti-tank weapon? not the plasma gun epoch

>itz da GRUNT FANTAZEE
in a game where a sitms make you immortal
and you can call in a rocket launcher that oneshots everything
you have a sticky grenade that oneshots everything
you can litter the map in said grenade if you got a supply pack
you can call down an emplacement that has the power of the retardedly strong scorpion tank from Halo also the cooldown is nigh nonexistent
you can have a backpack nuke and a pocket nuke
yup we definitely don't have any power, we are mere grunts, doomed to get raped & buried by unfairly tuned enemies

>>539698816
Well, you'd get wack balancing decisions, they'd make you pay for new content every few months, bad communication with the playerbase, and changes that cause uproars within the subreddit.

I take the EAT, Commando, Silo, and 380.
Got a problem with that?

>>539698889
Teleport backpack one, it's useful for farming future super credits and also is just like ton of fun to run through walls and getting out of danger

>>539699093
thanks for being the fabricator janny so I get to play the game more

>>539699060
But can they code?

>>539698889
Not Halo or Gas. Halo weapons don't change your gameplay and lots of gas warbond items are bad.
The other three are good.

>>539699323
Well, they're using an even older engine that's somehow significantly more stable than Stingray so... yeah.

>laser point silo at mortars/anti-air emplacements
>100+ kills seconds later

>>539698889
I can only speak for dickle, gas, and warp pack

All of them are great in my experience but dickle and gas are considerably more valuable to you if you dive bugs more often than bots, imo. I use dickle with anti-fire armor and flamethrower for synergy, with EATs for shrieker nests. EAT and a few dickle shots takes down a mushroom, so you can take down 2 per EAT call-in rather than just one. Gas nades are excellent for a long stun against medium/large bugs and usually outright kill small ones. Gas dog is also good on bugs, complementing support weapons that don't want to be staggered/interrupted like quasar/flamethrower

>>539698889
out of all of these Servants of Freedom is the best, closely followed by Dust Devils
Halo bond is cosmetics prettty much
Chemical Agents if you really want the brapdiver experience
Control Group is completely skippable beyond warp pack, the SC solo farm aspect is there but still I'd call it a semi skippable one definitely

>>539697023
Honestly, the death of this game couldn't happen to a more deserving dev team with how bad they've dropped the ball with this game.

>>539698684
13:30 is the part I'm talking about. he starts talking about hive guard/alpha commander spam seeds.
>these [hive guard/alpha commander and digger] seeds make it so light penetration weapons are essentially useless
>even the folks you can kill with those guns aren't to be great and that's partly because you give those guns 65% damage based on the way that durable damage works
admittedly it's kind of hard to decipher is autistic speech mannerisms but I'm pretty sure he's talking about hive guard and alpha commanders making light pen worthless because the places you can hit them with light pen have 2 armour, namely the heads of alpha commanders and the claws/body of hive guard. he throws out out the reduction for matching armour penetration, 65%, but says it's because of durability. even though durability and armour penetration/reduction are completely separate things. see behemoth asses having 0 armour but being 100% durable, and the crown of hive lords having 10(!) armour but 0% durability. armour and durability are completely mechanically divorced. hive guard are also 0% durable everywhere so it's only the penetration matching that is reducing the damage light pen does to them.

>>539698889
Servants of freedom > Control Group > Dust Devils

>>539698889
Dust Devils is fine, the armour is forgettable and the grenade sucks ass.
Forget the Halo one, it's quite literally just sidegrades of base game weapons.
Masters of Ceremony is alright, nothing too special.
Gas one is bad, despite what people say about it. Most of it is meh, you can fully substitute gas grenades with OGS or gas mines.
Control Group is fine.

>>539698889
Ultimatum, no contest

>>539699543
I'll take it. Sony, hire Bungie please

The armour from Servants should really drop your remaining grenades on death, primed. Or buff the death explosion.

>>539700086
Though you know, I don't give a shit about ODST or Halo but if you love it do it

>>539700196
>dies with a full stack of gas grenades
Imagine the smell

>>539700196
I just wish you got a free revive if you kill enough shit.

>be me
>be rich
>have all warbonds
Feels good bvos

>>539699947
Both, hive guard and alpha cummander have both, armor matching and durable which jointly make many guns extra garbage. It's probably how he got tripped up.

>>539700196
Should just be the predator death explosion. Much fucking bigger but on a timer.

>>539699873
We don't need to worry. Just be patient. Eventually a new game will pick up this same format and practically replace HD2 by being superior in almost every way. Freedom from Swedes. I just hope it'll have a warlocks+demons faction. I want to conduct tactical nuclear warfare against the forces of hell.

>>539700462
Do you have all the items?

Can you MOcucks hurry the fuck up, I have items to unlock

>>539700485
>both, hive guard and alpha cummander have both, armor matching and durable w
only brood/alpha commanders have durability. hive guard have not a single spot on them with any amount of durability. not a single percent.
maybe he did trip up and accidentally say "how durability works" instead of what he actually meant to say "how armour matching works" but he didn't catch himself if he did

>>539700462
>be me
>get gifted the game
>farm a ton of SC when you could do it easily
>have all the warbonds
>not a single cent given to the swedes ever

>>539698816
>are they as bad at coding as the swedoids?
They were struggling to provide certain pieces of evidence in court because they went so hard into FOMO that primary sources for certain parts of Destiny literally do not exist anymore.

>>539700681
Yes.
>>539700849
I give money to Israel as well anyway.

>per AH's own words, the game is balanced *entirely* around reddit feedback
>reddit, home to the most deranged shitter homonculi ever put onto the Earth
>any post that points out that some enemies are literally broken, like how barrage tanks have been unable to fire any rockets for almost a year now, get downvoted to oblivion
>posts begging for every single enemy to get nerfed stay on their front page for weeks
>game is the easiest co-op game on the market right now but the reddit community bitches about literally everything being too hard nonstop
>pic related

>>539700991
So what is it? Is the game too hard or too easy? What do the based gamers think?

The game doesn't even run on consoles anymore lmao it's so over

>>539700991
The sad part is there is actually good gamerdad games out there, like Hardspace: Shipbreaker and instead they play this swedeslop.

>>539700991
thank fuck, at least they don't listen to their discord.

>Eagle storm active on Super Korea.
To Choepessa it is, then.

I will never understand the complaining about SC. You can earn them faster than you farm medals, so, what's the deal?
Remember to never give money to the eternal swede.

>>539700749
Fine, gee. I'll go liberate that planet right now.

Why are people so down about helldivers? It isn't like they teased a reverse bunny girl outfit with pasties over the nipples and then covered it up with a giant white jacket on release.

>>539701218
>Hardspace: Shipbreaker
>good
Well, the freeplay mode is good but the devs killed the story/career mode.

>>539679147
>Laser Cannon
can you believe this piece of shit used to be light pen

>>539701424
Reverse bunny girl is shit and makes a mockery of the perfection that is the bunny girl outfit

>>539701408
Thanks

>>539701465
The freeplay is all the game needed to begin with. The story was bolted on for no reason at all.

>>539700991
release game:
>AH FUCK I'M GOING TO DIE, EVERYTHING WANTS TO KILL ME, THIS IS WAR!!!! AIEEEEEEEEE-*ACK*
game now:
>look at all these enemies that are just looking at me and doing nothing *snap*, yep *siiiiip* this is a great safari

>>539701424
Because the game can't run reliably on any platform. That's the actual main reason, normies don't give a fuck about muh balance or just lower the difficulty

>>539701465
I'm still pissed that the only things we got when that left EA was 1 new ship and a sassy black woman bitching in your ear about unionizing the entire time instead of several new ships which is all it needed.

>>539698147
Give me your thoughts once you try it btw

It's funny how much more flak Capcom gets for Wilds running like dogshit that the swedes somehow don't get for having their own game run arguably even worse than Wilds does on literally all platforms. I'd just have to assume it's because Narrowhead somehow has a more loyal army of glazers than MH's devs do?

>>539701481
It was never light, but medium. It did have the same DPS as the Scythe though.
But I do remember the short period of time where it did 300 durable at AP4. Utter terror on the bot front. Could slice off both arms on a hulk and blow out its eye, all in a third of a heatsink.

>>539702003
It's because their constant LARPing cultivates a fanbase of manchildren who think the devs are their mom

>>539702003
capcom is known for bad decisions. Like they agreed to put their characters in the ass and tiddy game but then require those characters to be wearing the most concealing clothing possible.

>>539702241
>doesn't know about the armour that makes your character's tits bigger

>>539686920
I'm considering doing the weird steam share free profile thing to restart on a different profile. Just feel what the game is like without upgrades and OP warbonds.

>>539701731
>There are people who think the alexus unleashed nerf era was the best era

>>539700383
Someone's been playing Borderlands.