Thread 539699963

Green Guy edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>539611751

The concerns of the deep do not concern me
get fucked, viscous

i dont know how to win as sinclair when the rest of my team doesnt farm

first for pocket

>>539699963 (OP)

Appreciate someone else making the threads, but please make sure to link back to the previous thread for posterity.

>watching teammate overextend too far out on the map
>map looks like i'm walking towards him
>he gets jumped
>thinks i'm coming to help him
>i stop and start punching the slot machine i was heading towards
heh

>buy extra health
>win lane

Simple as. Extra health is the most soul efficient item in the game and this works on every hero in every matchup

I'm trying to figure out a Drifter build. What could I remove to make room for a survivability item?

So when the Patron is summoned, what does Warden plan to do to kill it? Wish for it to kill itself or something?

>>539700640
stick his finger in its bunghole like a dog

>>539700620
do you really need headhunter?

>he isnt spending 6400 on rescue beam+majestic leap combo

Reminder that games are for fun anon

>17 losses in a row

as far as I'm concerned, this game is just FAGGOTY. Forced losses non-stop. How do you vent this rage? It just builds and builds and builds and gets worse and worse with each loss that's forced on me. I just want to bitch slap the developers.

>>539700620
the punch item has to be the most useless item you have on there.

>>539700737
frankly that's a skill issue

>>539700640
the battle is not the ritual, it's people trying to kill each other so that they CAN complete the ritual uninterrupted. warden will probably go AWOL while they're doing the chanting or some shit

>>539700797
>skill issue
>2 lanes goes 0-4-0

k.

>>539700885
Just win your lane faster and then go help them.

>>539700640
he's gonna throw his cum jar at it

>>539700954
>carrying the game as geist 22-1, 20k objective damage
>Get mo ulted
>wraith ulted
>double dynamo ulted
>HURRR JUST CARRY

remove stuns from the game then?

>>539701135
Or you know, buy unstoppable

>>539701135
Buy unstoppable?

>>539700328
He did though?

>>539701217
>>539701204
Oh my bad, I patched my game to make unstoppable a passive. thanks for the tip

carry this *whips out unstoppable*

>>539700704
>>539700791
Alright, thanks. Another thing. Should I unlock his passive first or last? My thinking is that since laning is always 2v2, you won't get a lot of opportunities for an isolated kill.

I counterspelled shiv's ult today, felt bretty gud

>enemy buys counter items
>I lose
>enemy doesn't buy counter items
>I win

How do I cope with 0 control over my destiny?

What are the lore implications of Paige not shaving her cooter or butthole?

Mo & Cringe has been broken cancer for most of the game's lifespan, nothing happens
Seven has been broken cancer for most of the game's lifespan, nothing happens
Warden has been broken cancer for most of the game's lifespan, nothing happens

Kill Yoshi. At least other broken heroes have been FoTM and were neutered relatively quickly, why do these heroes get a pass? No I don't give a fuck if Drifter or Mina are OP, at least it's fresh cancer, these heroes have BEEN overtuned for so long it gives me metafaggot fatigue something fierce.

>>539701479
buy counter items

>>539701592
bride of stinktor

>>539701610
knockdown completely neuters all these heroes though

new leaked info regarding changes in the test client
>basically the new spawn rooms suck (visually and gameplay wise)
>people hate them
>the spawn room is at the front of blue lane
>lane to guardian zip timing is 20s
>the pit is behind the spawn room
>hard to crack base but once ppl get in defending is impossible
>you can just hug pit wall or pillar cut all angles
>no more tunnels to the shrines so if they sit in the pocket they kill it for free
>everyone hates it
>the spawn room is about the height of where the bridge on blue lane is
>you can just stand on regen while clearing the base guardians
>prob not making it to prod
>nothing new regarding unreleased heroes (fortuna/graf/druid etc.)
>nothing about new hero models
>they're not testing new heroes rn
>it's going to be an npc update

>>539702308
So they just wasted all this time changing the throne room into something nobody wants? WHAT THE FUCK VALVE YOU FUCKING RETARDS.

>>539702308
'npc' update as like the meme npc or jungle creeps?

>>539700737
MM sucks but you if you've lost 10+ matches in a row, you must have 0 impact on the match once it goes south. What the fuck are you doing?

>>539702308
good shit, hotpoo.
they're really using blender at valve?

>>539702308
>Source: MY ASS!!!
I don't care until I see it in the actual game

>>539702685
this is why they had to go to the secret test, they kept putting out these stupid changes expecting them to go over well and then walking them back immediately. Didn't look good to the higher ups.

when are they removing the double dash from full rage shiv, it's op as fuck

>all five players on my team dc because someone feeds and rqs
>guy on the enemy side says gg ez

>>539702308
I heard the soul forge mechanic to replace urn was also dogshit, as in if you had a shitty teamcomp you could not defend them well.

good times ahead for me! don't worry about it! things will get better from here!

>>539703250
>valve
>higher ups

>>539703679
as far as i'm aware the soul forge thing is fake

>>539702850
the latter

>buy knockdown and curse for Warden
>stills gets his ult off
>runs at you
>has greater expanse
>has lightning scroll
>kills everything

Serious question. Are there any good Deadlock streamers?
>Xera
Open his stream he's seething about a Haze who built dagger meme build despite it being the same as his own video
>Metro
Open his stream he's seething because someone said gun builds should be weaker than spirit, then spends the entire game raging at his team.
>Eido
I hate this faggot from when I played top500 lobbies in the finals and he made videos larping that sword was weak(it got nerfed 3x after he quit)
>Deathy
Has some weird superiority complex, and it honestly seems like a trend in the deadlock community.

Do ANY of these niggers enjoy the game. I just want to be able to watch a bit of gameplay on demand without some faggot crying. I'll unironically take any rec that's decently high ranked and seems like they have even a single ounce of fun.

>>539703992
The guys who play on Buff Enjoyers seem to not have huge egos or flame their team on mic and stuff like that maybe try watching them

>>539703992
they're all early adapters hoping to make it big before the game releases, don't expect them to be any good

>>539703772
it was?
fooled me.

>>539703992
Surefour is the only person I watch and he doesn't cry like a faggot. But that is very seldom because I rather play the game unless I'm on a loss streak.

>>539703992
bros I miss mikaels...

is this game unplayable outside like the 5-6 hour range starting 6 pm est

>>539701592
The new leak looks interesting
https://files.catbox.moe/rxqub0.png

>>539703992
use the in-game spectate feature

>>539704210
>6pm est
Wagies and school kids are out on the east coast and mid-west.

>>539704210
I played from 6am till 11pm last Sunday PST time zone.

>>539703992

Watch jamal ))))))))))))

>>539703992
Eskay seems happy and chill

>>539704351
I have but I would actually like someone who commentates their thoughts a bit more. Why they're buying what item or doing xyz thing. With the spectator you have no idea what rank these people even are.

>>539703992
>crayon_fps
lover of deadlock, e6 player, autist, fun-haver
>hootdl
rank 1 eu, insane skill level, good stream if goal is improving, (justified whining here and there)
>lomeine
top player, high skill, chill stream, no rage etc.

>>539704071
>>539704168
>>539704554
>>539704719
I'll take a look when I'm off thanks bros
>>539704569
In the nicest possible way I don't like trannies xer voice grates in my brain and I'm not a fan of their political statements/ agendas they push.

>>539704719
crayon is the most annoying faggot of all time

>>539703992
buds if you like infernus macromaxxing with almost zero talking until he rages about the lobby and abandons :)

>>539699963 (OP)
>play 10 games without speed
>put it in your build again
>feel too fast
>run past people
Making a non-typical gun character (Victor) into one just always surprises people and they do dumb mistakes like fight you with a 10k soul loss. Mina and Infernus both think I'm a sure kill for them here in a 2v1.

>>539701794
>but this ite-
NO, othdr heroes that has their moment to be strong also had items that could shut them down and still got nerfed, why are these 3 the exception?

>>539702308
>>basically the new spawn rooms suck (visually and gameplay wise)
I like how that looks, actually.

>>539703985
The counter to warden is to dash behind him when he ults

>>539702308
>source: my ass
that said
the people at the secret secret playtest are retarded pro wanabes and other some shit, if they think it sucks its probably because they can't giga stall the thing with little effort and probably not as bad

>>539703992
How does deathy have a superiority complex? He's like the nicest one even if he looks like a pedo

I just noticed that all car models have triple headlights.

i am steadily coming to realize you can win almost any game if you just unga bunga push and kill lane objectives when everyone's huddled in a lane waiting for a teamfight
i still don't really understand the map or timings for the jungle, but pushing seems to be the play 99% of the time

>Lash and Kelvin lane
>no one in the team wants to switch
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

>Kill Mina
>Kill Infernus
>Kill Abrams
>We push to base
>drop Patron to pit
>their entire team is now dead
>"guise lets do mid"
wtf is with these people? I told 'em on mic "if you're doing mid I'm just ending the game without you" and one of them, young kid from the sounds of it, goes "lets just do it for the memes"

wtf

>>539702308
I'm fine with waiting for new heroes if the next update is a full NPC/jungle overhaul

>>539705968
death is OK until you run into him in a lobby and then realize he's one of those guys that won't shutup. also is carried by duo queue more often than not

>>539706113
>LAST RESORT
*Lash resort. And it's ski season.

>>539706079
Its the meta for every moba, just play splitpush with an escape and rat hard

Will steal a win every 10 games which is enough to climb to max rank

>>539703992
eskay is alright, even if its mosty mina games, nothing too annoying

>Ult Yamato
>Green circle so I know I got her
>She doesn't get thrown
>Doesn't have any debuff or counterspell or any defensive that get her out of it
>Doesn't get thrown
What???

How does this game still have an audience

>>539703992
>midlock
I just watch midlock, chill dude and from the UK so that's plus.
>chazm
chazm streams on twitch but he's also chill.
>AndrewChicken
I sometimes force myself to watch AndrewChicken but the guy is just so gay and he puts his giant melon on the screen it's distracting.

They play the game casually so I enjoy them the most. Mostly just mid though.

will there be a patch soon

>Mfw trying Blood Tribute for the first time
Yeah, I'm putting this on Drifter.

>>539706686
6 players were on the side that got 23 kills and were having fun

>>539706890
it's ok. if you get CC'd while it's active GG.

God i cant wait for this game to mature and all the braindeads who brute forced themselves into eternus with excessive games get filtered

damn, the drifter is tall as fuck

>>539706890
explain

>>539703992
deathy is fine, really the only one to avoid is metro for being a massive fag

>>539706931
>Mom says its my turn to win!

>>539707103
Great fire rate and move speed bonus (not to mention best debuff resistance) at a price that's pretty low past 20-25 minutes. And it's a toggle, so you don't have to walk around with it damaging you.

>>539707337
low elo issue
should have picked up the game before they started dumping everyone into initiate 1

>3 straight wins
>now 2 straight losses
>both losses I had a dogshit Mina on my team
I can't carry this. I'm not playing an m1 carry

>>539707380
Yeah I've noticed some use a script where when they fire it's put on and automatically off when not firing.

>>539706686
because it feels really good to win despite being on the backburner
also learning how to play from behind is fun

>>539706614
Was she in her ult?

>>539707430
>No no no no ya see its because of your elo bro

>>539707013
50% debuff resist makes it more likely you'll survive during CC than if it was off
Only exception is black hole since you can't count on debuff resist there.

>>539707430
They really should have another one of those patches that redistributes the ranks to a bell curve. Don't have to overhaul mm or anything, I know they are saving that for beta, but its an ez fix for the current boondoggle

>>539707701
Now that you mention it she was. Does that grant immunity or something?

anyone else getting boxless souls?

>>539707871
Yes it's the same as the unstoppable item

>>539707736
probably just a matter of builds then, I'm almost always running debuff remover so the debuff resist isn't that important to me. I much prefer heroic aura for the map presence.

>>539707550
Make your non-m1 into an m1. It's what I did. >>539705478 but expect a lot of losses and never climbing past archon.

>>539707706
/v/ told me sbmm is bad and that good players should be allowed to dominate lobbies so this is a good thing actually

>>539707706
>statlocker ranks
not real

>>539708474
nu-/v/ is gay and smells like farts

>>539708474
off topic, but I cant believe how the gaming community at large has completely misunderstood why COD players began pushing against SBMM in the first place

if deadlock's alternate history continued into the 21st century, what would be the deadlock-universe 9/11?

>>539707901
I get this every 2-3 mini patches. They fix it then it comes back again

>>539702896
I've unironically gone 20-4 as geist with 60k+ but it's just the lanes. I just can't get a game without some lane going 0-4. legitimately, my last game was sinclair. My lane didn't go well against kelvin/warden with paige/sinclair, but it wasn't a stomp. I've uninstalled and remove it from my steam library.

I ended up 12-4-8? and had multiple 3 man double rabbits w/ billy and lash ult combos. I copied mina ult several times and just shut them down. Running max speed with veil as sinclair, stealing greytalon ult then warping back a mile away and getting a double kill with the owl... it's a ton of fun. but the last 20 or so games are all ultimately one of two kinds:

>20k diff at 15 minutes, slow stomp
>completely stomp the game, cannot win alone, ultimately eat chain stuns and die
(hint: the spirit item that makes you invincible hard counters unstoppable)

and I'm 17 losses out of 20 games. It's pissing me off on such a deep level that I struggle to unload the frustration in a healthy way, and it just sits here pissing me off even after I've worked out.

>play lane janitor
>team feeds even though you're constantly facing 1-3 people
when do the state mandated losses stop happening?

>>539708474
There is no sbmm in this game really. It will put people 4 ranks apart in the same lobby on the basis that its 'balanced' if it does the same to both teams. It would probably be more balanced if they did no matchmaking at all and just pulled names out of a hat

>>539709158
just stop playing the fucking game like everyone else
this shit looks like a crypto coin rugpull

*raises paw*

are they going to put out more fliers?

>>539700297
you can't really unless you're a god and building 1 max. some characters just don't really have agency in a soloq environment, turret miku, vindicta etc

>>539709298
lol you lost a game and got mad

sex! with the doorman!!!

>>539709024
qrd?? i never really studied matchmaking & the general opinions on it. the alternative back then was just connection based, right? i.e. just dump you in the lobby with the best ping and the best players dominate?

>>539709298
I have fun playing the game though.

>>539709158
when you become strong enough to kill the people you face and then join the brawl after and kill them too.

>>539709024
people are just retarded and read the acronym and think its inherently good, kind of like antifa actually

>>539709441
>some characters just don't really have agency in a soloq environment

Can someone who knows what they're talking about please make the definitive list of which heroes to play in solo Q where you actually have a hope of carrying / affecting the match with them

possibly the biggest streamoid crashout ive ever seen, watch for a minute and you'll hear it
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2570553993?t=02h34m21s
he keeps going later on when pocket kills him again

Im not a furry but we unironically need a hero with a big knot

>mid match
>.pak crash
good 'game'

>>539709634
how to kill them if they don't get out of position?

>>539709696
let me guess without opening the link: it's lefaa

>>539709298
you've reminded me of an infernus I played with yesterday that
1. was named after a pokemon
2. died twice in lane by suiciding to the enemy laners
3. proceeded to say they're going back to PUBG (lmao) and abandoned the match after calling us niggers

>>539709849
ding ding ding
watch it, its kino

>>539709550
Cod's SBMM pits you against better players 3 games in a row, then against worse player 3 games in a row, repeat ad infinum. Its a psychological tactic to get people to play more

>>539709696
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2570553993?t=02h34m21s
>FAKER OF DEADLOCK | PMA ONLY| 2X CHEAT BANNED| solving shiv
>2X CHEAT BANNED
wtf does this mean? VAC caught him twice? is that why he keeps smurfing?

>>539709285
>It will put people 4 ranks apart in the same lobby on the basis that its 'balanced' if it does the same to both teams.
Thats exactly how SBMM works in all cases unless you have 6 gorillion concurrent players.

>>539710031
That sounds like eomm not sbmm

>>539709696
this is your average ivy player whining about nerfs

>>539709696
you're just as retarded as he is for actually watching him.

>>539709696
>guy having a breakdown because someone took 'his' farm

Is this a thing?

>>539709696
Literally started to cry holy shit kek

>>539710412
it is when you're an egotistical shitter who can only win when he's 20k souls ahead of the enemy, playing with randos that you implicitly hate

>>539709696
this has got to be the most pathetic player in any game Ive ever seen

closed alpha btw

>>539710091
It doesnt technically have to work that way but players chimp out if the q last more than 2 minutes

Idk why people still try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to mm. The chess elo is a literal mathematical proof of the most optimal player sorting algo, but junior game devs with no math skills think they know better.

yoshi this is why you need to nerf ivy

>>539710974
but this isn't a 1v1 game.

>>539709696
holy fuck that's pathetic, WHY does this guy have 12k followers and 200 live viewers right now??? streaming needs to fucking crash and die already

>>539710217
The problem is cod denies using EOMM, hence why SBMM is the term used. Its videogame politics, unironically.

>>539711075

It is, its 1 team vs 1 team except you play with 5 ringers

>>539711120
he's a lolcow

>>539710087
He got frogged twice in deadlock which bans your account because you're a cheater if you get frogged.

I am the smartest Deadlock player
I figured out the winning strategy, simply don't push blue walker until the enemies are all dead.
Your enemies will be dead because they'll push blue walker and die.

>>539710087
bro just play seven why cheat

>>539711860
>guy who's been banned publicly twice is allowed to compete

???

>>539709696
WOAH what was that Geist mod

>>539711942
Is that Doorman's ult lin for Infernus or Wraith?

>>539711952
It's because he's friends with the organizers.
But OBT still can't fucking play in fight night because the group of people who protect an actual cheater thinks that OBT is a cheater despite there never having been any proof of it.

>>539711871
this is actually true.

>>539709696
This is Metro losing an easy game because he dives fountain then spends 2 minutes blaming his team for it from earlier today
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2570375650?t=01h12m49s

>>539709696
>Sperged out
>Still won
Just permaban this stupid nigger

>friend loses 3/4ths of our games by being caught out late even when i repeatedly remind him to back up or have to micro manage his position
i cant do it, im not strong enough

>>539712287
majestic leap + rescue beam

Holy fucking shit Yoshi just give Vyper's 1 a bullet ressist reduction already stop adding a bunch of new retarded characters and fix the ones you already released

>>539712287
at least your friends actually wanna play this game with you, literally none of my friends want to play deadlock against real players they're only willing to go up against bots

>>539711120
hatewatchers.
also the other children who get extraordinarily upset over video games resonate with him.

>>539709696
>possibly the biggest streamoid crashout ive ever seen
faggot that was literally nothing
kys nigger

>>539709696
Forever vindicated in my gut feeling to avoid GunIvy builds like the plague
A magnet for the worst personalities jumping ship from Haze and Wraith

>>539712551
whats up lefaa you worthless faggot

>>539711860
frog was when it's detected? thought it was just when you got reported enough during the match.

This looks like cheater damage. I spectated 10 minutes of the game and it's not that their crosshair jumped irratically but it was glued to people once he started firing. He might shoot a body and then once he aligned with the head it stayed on the head. Also their Steam profile is full of "-rep cheater" comments.

>>539712194
>dives fountain instead of hitting patron
>doesn't actually hit patron then whines about people not hitting patron
>decides to e.shift on top of rejuv instead of just hitting it

this guy will disappear after release

>>539712551
Yes spamming chat and punching your keyboard then muting mic and playing like a braindead caveman for the rest of the match is totally calm behavior

>>539712852
He's gone a gun damage build too and he's just sat there waiting for his aura to do something for him kek

Guys, what is fountain? I dont know what it refers to

>>539713014
The spawn room

why does any reference to another game make this general seethe so much?

>>539713014
spawn room
term from dota because it's a big fountain there that shoots at enemies who enter it

I've been playing like shit the last few days.
any tips how to lock in?

>>539709696
Why does he sound like such a pussy
>WAHHH POCKET OUTPLAYED AND GANKED ME
>WAHHH INFERNUS IF YOU TAKE MY JUNGLE I WILL SHIT MY DIAPER
>>539712551
You're pathetic grow up you fucking HRT chugging faggot.

>whines about pocket and lash lane and one shot spirit nukers
>they immediately fall off and lose to gun builds after 20 mins

lol?

>>539709696
This is literally like some drug addict type behavior.

This is what happens when you play a game too much. The stuff that filled you with joy no longer does so when you aren't getting the absolute best situations it just mindbreaks you because you're receiving no joy from the thing you're spending hours of your time every day on.

>reverb geist ult doesn't work anymore
>but you can still put the imbue on it for some reason

Someone really needs to make compilations of people like Lefaa and Metro throwing their little pussy shit tantrums. It's so funny to watch them whine like little bitches when they throw their own games.

>>539712551
you sound like you punch holes in walls

>>539713296
Unironically I started shaving my entire body and I play so much better. You don't realise until it's gone just how much more relaxed and comfortable you feel when you're totally smooth, it's kind of crazy. You sweat less, you itch less and you just generally feel better about yourself. I also wear a chastity cage while I'm playing but that's not really relevant, but it does make me feel extra special when I get complimented for playing well.

>>539713461
If you buy extra health against lash its a free lane, he will combo you, you dont die, then you just kill him

>>539713651
HANG YOURSELF FUCKING DISGUSTING TRANNY

>>539713296
simply play like a bitch and focus on not dying

>>539712194
That's like the calmest I've seen him, yeah he should have been been shooting the patron instread of doing 100 dps with his gun build aura but what was his team actually doing during that time

>>539709696
>Infernus farming
>WOOOOOOOW HOW COULD HE REEEEEE
Why are people like this? The game has random hero matchmaking, you are going to have games where you have multiple carries, why does he feel entitled to have every single bit of farm on green? What does he expect them to do?

>>539709696
Why didnt he just say "Golly gosh darn it"?
That's what i do when I get upset.
Is only video game :)

>>539713296
5 min warm up shooting orbs in training map. I like to use the sign to block sight of them spawning then just flick

im tired of abysmal games
premadefags should be quarantined

Do you guys still host custom matches

>>539713737
Not even a tranny or even gay. I'm straight and a little fruity. My girlfriend pegs me.

>>539713763
>That's like the calmest I've seen him

He goes on about this moment for the next 30 or so minutes of the stream and starts getting upset at people in chat for saying it was his fault (when it clearly was)

>>539713742
When im way too tired sometimes ill just buy 3 regen items, melee lifesteal, extra regen, resto shot or healing rite. With 3 its pretty hard to die and feed so at minimum its a stale lane

Hitting a good barrel is one of the best feelings I get in this game, but missing it makes me feel completely neutered. It's making me contemplate Gunniday, or at least buying more orange items.

>>539712643
>>539712918
>>539713367
>>539713581
>GRRRRR
>HUUUURMMMPH!
>*pushes keyboard and walks away*
Wow what a crashout.
Yandev had a harder crashout over Cuphead lmfao that shit was tame

this game isn't fun anymore

>>539714158
>anymore
it was never fun

>>539714158
I like it

>>539703992
Zergy is an ADHD zoomer but he's a nice dude, and he definetly feels like he enjoys playing

>>539713651
manliest support main.

>>539709696
this guy sounds like such a fucking pussy lmfao

The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.

I can't win unless I play heroes that shred objectives and I hate it

>>539712221
you can evade deadlock bans as easily as 4chan bans

>>539713742
I'm not feeding, I'm just having extremely low impact.

>>539714425
NTA but I'm actually a multi season top 500 Ana 1 trick. Immortal peak CM/ Enchantress/ Invoker/ Earth Spirit main, and I'm a 6'5 very hairy man who just likes playing cute girls(and hard heros) I've been spamming Paige and I'm like 40 games in with 28 wins or so. Don't assume all support players are faggots.

>>539713651
I forgot to mention but I play Mo n Krill btw.

>>539703992
zergy is the only deadlock main that I can stand.
surefour is enjoyable too, but he's not a deadlock main.
the content creators for this game are insufferable faggots.

>>539712028
wraith, Infernus is a good boy who turned his life around.

>>539714657
can confirm, am this anon's boyfriend

>>539714810
Damn how am I gonna tell my wife I have a boyfriend now

>>539714657
playing support doesn't make you a faggot.
but the way you play support makes you a faggot.

>>539714509
This post made me realize than Mina is a RAT hero. High mobility, shreds objectives...

they should add divine rapier to the game and put it in haze's default build

>>539714509
It's not your fault nobody else can objective damage for shit

>>539714790
>zergy is the only deadlock main that I can stand.
What? That guy is like the xqc of deadlock streamers. absolute autist.

>3 supports
>Yamato, Haze and me
>Yamato and Haze refuse to do anything but solo farm lanes
>literally all three supports orbiting me at all times because they cant go out solo
>Kills constantly stolen and i cant get stacks
>After 15m ganks become impossible because they spot us coming from a mile away and collapse on us over and over again
this is fucking nightmarish. Paige literally acting like a lost dog following me around 24/7

>>539715039
They need to take this shit out of the game. Minas ult should do like 80% less damage to objectives. I'm sick of her getting to the walker and taking it for free. Knockdown takes longer to cast than her ult duration there's no counter play other than never letting the wave get to your side.

>>539715120
I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
zergy is entertaining and doesn't spend every match crashing out.

>>539715120
I don't see the problem with him, he's got a good attitude and he's kind of funny, and not a complete retard, which is what makes him different from xqc.

>>539715245
spergy hyperactive autist. If you find him entertaining you're obviously showing your ass

>>539715120
he never gets mad and thats what matters to me

>>539713651
doing this guy in the butthole literally isn't even gay

>play support
>go to any team fight I see after I finish laning
>team runs away
>I feed
>we lose
do I just stop trying to help these faggots or do I just never queue solo again?

>>539715312
no my clothes cover my butt unless I've taken them off to have sex with your mom.

>>539713964
woah that's heterosexual and based haha

>>539715389
>play support
wrong game.

help

>>539715767
pick a hero that can impact the outcome of the match.

>>539715824
you might be right, my games and winrate are normal on Geist/Victor/Viscous but miku is fun i just cant win with her

>>539715389
>playing support
You still need money. Clean lanes people don't want. Contest the rune. Run the urn. Do box runs, buy Cultist or trophy collector depending on playstyle. Always be ready to rotate and fight. You should aim to counter initiate for most support heros, but if your team doesn't have someone to go in first make sure you build for getting picks. Majestic leap warp stone etc are your friends. Active debuffs like curse knockdown are your good friends. Rescue beam is your BEST friend. It beats every ult in the game.

Fucking McGinnis big muscular ass
(Anal only)

>>539715824
>buy gun items
>kill walkers in 10 seconds
boom. impact

>>539715767
>low elo
Play spirit debuff turret spam
>high elo
Play another hero faggot

>>539715989
every single game without fail my team gets assfucked in 2 lanes and i have to spend the rest of the game jannying both sidelanes or we lose double walkers at 20 minutes, i can never get a splitpush off because there's always some faggot seven/haze/inferni doing the same just better than me on their side. This isn't even giga low elo, I'm in ARCHON ffs I swear I have normal teams on other picks this just has to be the most unlucky streak of matchmaking ever or my miku is just seeded to have guaranteed losses every game

Is this aimbot? He can't hit someone and then suddenly locks on to the head.

>>539715767
you'll start a winstreak soon, its yoshi's vision

>>539716358
might be, could also be spectator bug that makes your bullet tracers look wonky

>>539715767
I feel like matchmaking took a huge shit this last week

>>539716358
this thread is truly pathetic

>>539716358
This looks like me guh. haze name?

>>539716423
it looks so fucking off
they had 50% of their damage be headshot crits >>539712832

>>539716358
Provide more evidence

>>539716569
Eh I'll leave it at that. Was just wondering what the knee jerk reaction is to an obvious aimbot.

>>539716358
>Aims at mina perfectly through wall

Just assume no one ever cheats :^)

Zerggy also doesnt cheat he jusg has magical trackball skills like no one else in history of competetive shooters

>>539716569
Is his Steam profile having 12 pages of comments and every 4th comment is "-rep cheater" evidence?

I wish there was a mordekaiser type hero. I dont even play league but i know of him, and i always like his ult power in games. Any ability that takes you away and makes it a 1v1. Doorman is cool but hes more utility. Kelvin maybe but its not the same ability as mordekaiser.

>>539715389
Sounds like bad positioning, if your team is running you should be running even faster, always have your teammate between you and the enemy

>>539716358
>"locks on" to mina walking 2 feet an hour
>then on seven predictably strafing in the air

>>539717083
doorman ult but it transports you and your target to fy_iceworld

>>539716697
Zerggy has trackball skills so you just can't beat it and he has a FOV of 100 just because he doesn't need to aim because his amazing trackball skills carry him as his ADHD and adderall ridden brain just aimbots just like that :D

>>539717172
>Haze turns around like an absolute noob retard when im melee range of Seven
>scores instant headshots in a row on an airborne spastic Seven

>have a mo krill on team
>starts counting up by 1 every kill
>pushing lane
>3 minutes in and 3 kills against a Bebop and Billy
>on the 4th kill types "domain expansion"
>starts pushing lane even harder and kills enemy guardian and almost solos walker
>enemy Calico pulls into lane and almost kills mokrill
>types "MOHARAGA HELP"
>manages to get back to our guardian in one piece
>every kill after starts typing king of curses attacks
>first death types "I underestimated you (forgot who killed him)"
>helps kill mid boss and win us the game
>10 k / 1 d/ 14 a
>enemy team loss in a landslide against a mo krill roleplaying as Sukuna

do watcha love and ye never werk anutha day in yo life >:D

>>539717273
Kino
>>539717384
Im pretty sure one of his teammates was using same software in comp game
Cant wait till this faggot gets exposed

>>539718176
who? would have been a pretty huge deal considering his team was VP

what's your guys' favorite lash build? gonna try to learn him

>>539716358
nigga are you serious

>>539718292
Haze in a game like 2 weeks ago, i didnt spectate this week

Both of their crosshairs were shaking as if they had 5x dose of adderall

>>539718310
do the opposite of this

how do you play drifter? what's the mentality?
because i barely make use of his passive

>almost killing Yamato
>Yamato ulties
>Pocket drops to ultie you
>Mina drops to ultie you
>Wraith drops to ultie you
sometimes you know you're doing good when the entire enemy team wastes their ulties on you one after the other. :D
webm related

>>539716358
holy fuck lmao

>>539718567
people can't resist attacking victor he's like a vortex that sucks out the brains of every player

>>539712832
>This looks like cheater damage
Not even remotely. This is cheater damage.

>>539718567
they did it because you're playing a tank in seeker

>>539718734
actually I'm in the rank that's just before Phantom. Archon or something?

>steals your underground boxes and urn buffs
what now shit lips

>>539718828
Archon is below Oracle not below Phantom, the times I get dragged into those lobbies I get ridiculous scores like 20 0 15

i wonder if they're going to get rid of headshots and that's as someone who likes them
i think it's a real possibility

>>539718869
>stole your slots while you were doing that
what now niga lips

>>539718869
the thing below mid is worth like two sinner's, right? but it's faster and takes no health

>>539718918
I genuinely think ranks are meaningless after the bellcurve. It's all about who has a job and who doesn't and who spams only Hazes etc.

>>539718941
Don't know why the game has them in the first place, doubt anyone would complain if it never did

>>539718989
>ricochets your small camp
kneel.

>>539719129
Hello?? Skill ceiling? Risk vs reward? Why would they not have headshots? This isn't like TF2 where most of the bullet weapons have silly amounts of spread

>>539719141
>rushed ricochet
oh wood tier niga lips

>stole your entire golden statues and boxes while doing mid camps

>>539719248
>Risk vs reward?
>headshots
is this retard serious?

>>539719249
>farmes enough to make your teammates rage quit
you have no power

>>539719404
You don't exactly have to be a /k/ommando to understand why center-of-mass aiming is easier than hitting the head

>>539719417
>sneaked past lines and took both shrines forcing your team to head back and we get another chance
>all team mates rejoin
>we stomp
>we win
end of da line

>>539718567
When enemy throws 3 ults at you you know you lost because they dont consider your teammates as threat

i will end this retarded argument
*kills u

>>539719674
*Revives because I took midboss*

>>539719565
>slide the patron a benjamin to make you replace me
now who's so high and mighty

>>539719661
actually won that game but ok. I think it's more hatred related. if you do well in a lane and dominate a Haze, they will just target you the entire game etc.

Abrams is so much fun. punching carrytrannies in the mouth and 2 shotting them.

The map has killed all my enjoyment of this game. I've already been playing this game for 20 years 3 fucking boring lanes with nothing interesting about them.
Zero experimentation, zero fresh ideas.
Just boring shit
It makes me physically nauseous when I play the game now.
low ceiling, no interrogator, no sky scrapers, no underground lane, no lane in the air. no nothing.

>>539719921
doorman and geist sex scene when

>>539706793
The chicken guy I hate just because I saw him sperg in his own comment section about how pocket was a 'they' and he came across as so superior and morally correct I can't watch him.

>>539720115
Im sorry I havent drawn it yet idk how to draw hatesex

>>539719952
we used to have that all the time
Valve used to have like map changes every other week

>>539720259
Now only the playtest secret bum buddies get to actually test out new shit

>>539720228
He is truly obnoxious. He's also terrible sometimes and the only reason I watch him is he reminds me of my late brother

>>539718310
There's a Polish build in the browser called
'Wąsaty pedofil porywacz dzieci z Płocka' (Mustashed pedophile kidnapper of children from Płock)

Really fun build focused on sustain and nuking people from orbit.

Geist on Doorman futa on male

Alchemical flask!

>>539699963 (OP)
WHO WILL BE THE FIRST CHARACTER ADDED TO OUTFREAK VYPER????????????
>YWN BE LASH
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>539719921
[Seven voice] CONDOMS SHALL BE DISCARDED. MY DICK WILL GO UNCHAFED.

>>539720449
Nobody is testing any map changes anymore. They're clearly set on making the safest, more derivative, and boring game possible.
Its going to be 3 lanes with a jungle, no real interiors, low ceiling sewage

>>539720241
just read some foid books or something

Who are all those ghost niggers with the one-way doors?

>>539720913
They're the spirits of all the unborn children from your gooning sessions

>>539719952
close your eyes and do literally nothing for 20 minutes and you'll feel better, trust

>friend constantly bitches about teammates and the game
>see him do the exact same thing he's bitching about in the same match even
mobas are a curse

>>539721117
I did. I started feeling this way last night after 600 hours of playtime. I woke up to play and it just became more and more apparent today

>>539721169
I fucking hate playing games with my friends because they get hardcore gamer rage and throw every single game then proceed to crash out about it

They should make a silly objective killer so I can play as them. All the current objective killers are not silly at all.

>>539721879
get better friends, ones that don't have the emotional maturity of 8 year olds.

>>539719952
You are kinda right. Its like 3 copypasted lanes, whereas they could be vastly more differentiated between eachother. Even dota has safelane, offlane and mid that play differently...

>>539721879
Had to recently cut a dude out because he would constantly bitch and moan in game about x or y but he was legitimately terrible and constantly getting caught solo, and if you pointed it out he would make it his point to just follow you around map doing nothing and dying anyway

>>539722152
We are already starting to see that with how different the Amber Hand side of the map is compared to the very much place holder Sapphire Flame one is

>>539722293
deadlock kills friendships confirmed

>>539721076
hey it wouldn't happen if monster women were real

>>539722334
Examples?

>>539722334
Not really at all. The map needs a complete rework

>>539722358
I mean, that nigger had it coming its not a deadlock problem that made me cut him out, it was just a very common occurence across games.

>Recently playing wow private server
>Hes tanking
>Does terrible job at it, loses aggro constantly
>Bitches at all the party members as if they owe him money
>Sit down with him later, because i know for a fact that prot warrior has good threat and he shouldnt be struggling
>He turns on stream, his keybinds are total disaster
>He has completely wrong talents (for example didnt bind or talent revenge, and if you know anything about wow thats pretty big nono)
>Figure it all out with him in a span of an hour
>Issue seems to be resolved, mostly, still has a hissy fit when people bodypull or whatever
>Later on, we have an argument if wearing earrings as a man is gay
>(I dont think its gay really but i tease him about it)
>He throws a massive fit, tells me on discord that its mean i make fun out of him after all the stuff he did for me(??)
>Mfw he specifically made fun out of me in front of his friends on disc and that was apparently okay

Either way
Hes a faggot ripbozo

The "pit" and distance mechanics is extremely frustrating and a failure in map design.

>>539706148
victor players being faggots as usual

>>539713869
I warm up by strafing around the pillars in the hideout and shooting souls from the spawning pit.

>>539723059
How is there not even a visible forcefield to let you know what the arbitrary distance is for the patron to take damage?

>>539722152
but the lanes are copy pasted like they are in dota, with slight variances for sapphire/amber (radiant/dire).

>>539723059
Pit mechanic is a direct result of guns being in game, otherwise you could be applying chip damage from 300m away

With THAT being said and damage dropoff existing, its nothing that a simple patron regen and backdoor protection shouldnt fix.

From what i heard they want to make sieging patrons even harder which im not sure i like, considering pubs are allergic to hitting buildings.

>>539723059
what's the alternative to being able to dps midboss or patron or guardians or walkers from halfway across the map, or by laying down a puddle?

>>539723284
In Dota lanes are symmetrical, but the tower placement and amount of heroes isnt

Across years you had many different setups where you would have 2+1+2,
Suicide lane, mid, trilane safe and so on.

The distance from "centre" of the map where creeps meet is only same for mid lane, in sidelanes one of the teams has further way to safety of their tower at vwry beginning, and that can also be manipulated with creep aggro, pulling into jungle ETC

>>539722152
winning right side lane is more influential because you can invade the jungle with the sinners

>>539713651
I dunno if this is bait, however, I shave and trim regularly. No, it isn't that comfortable. The ideal is when you have enough body hair to prevent friction but not so much it looks like a jungle. Anyway, Paige Deadlock Gaming.

>>539723554
radiant and dire are copies though. and it evolved into that. roshan used to be on the dire side of the river. I don't know what point you're trying to make with stuff like trilanes.

Teleporters from left to right side of the map should be easier to access, similar to what it was earlier, behind the big creep camp

>>539723775
it was too easy to defend side lanes when there were extra teleporters.

you should drop mmr for winning on mo and krill

My mom works for Valve and she told me they're going to split Mo and Krill into two separate heroes

You love to see it

>>539723743
Yes currently the dota map is most symmetrical it ever was. But going offlane always sort of put you at disadvantage due to distance from tower you had
It wasnt uncommon that offlaner would only ever get xp / last hits directly under his tower, because stepping out would often result in his death and 250~ g to enemy team

Back in the day you had scourge / dire rosh advantage, but radiant had advantage of ui and perspective

Yes, despite rosh being on another side of the map, radiant had 52% winrate

I played dota since 6.48b, ive seen it all

>>539724612
Doorman is OWNING

ok so
if theres a team fight to stop mid
dont fucking lane janny
if we dont stop them from taking mid we already lost
so stop sweeping

>>539724854
But if you dont lane janny then they take green walker for free?

>>539724854
i think trading a walker for midboss is acceptable

>>539725052
Looks like the Lash replied to the wrong post...

>>539699963 (OP)
i love Green Guy

>>539724921
thanks, that wave a 8 minions were going to do a real number on the tower.
the 6 man rape squad drugged up on steroids from the rejuv is something we can just put on the back burner

>>539724854
Nah, im gonna do my own thing

>>539724854
ok so
if theres a team fight to stop mid
and i dont fucking lane janny
then when we dont stop them from taking mid we lose the shrines while they take mid
so ill keep sweeping

>>539720627
Nah futa on cuntboy

what can I say, I just like having fun

>>539725178
I mean yeah they do, plus if they have a rat on their team that's easy pickings

>>539715120
The only thing bad about Zerggy is that sometimes he's too "KAPPA CHUNGUS LUL" in his humor. Otherwise he's skilled, high rank, doesn't crash out or cry all the time, and genuinely seems to have fun with the game.

>>539725390
I love using the heal pull item and save my teammates when they get ambushed!

>>539725239
if you are down to shrines and are not there for the 6v6 you already lost, that team fight is the most important one of the match

>>539720615
No results when searching for this build as Lash

>>539725570
doesn't that guy cheat

Sinclair is the only hero where it feels like nothing is sticking, I feel so useless. I've tried a couple of games doing both ult builds and some bunnypunch builds.

Is building gun Abrams with shadow weave viable? I dont want to bother trying it out in a game and be useless that match.
I find it funny to vomit like 20 shells in 1 second from behind the enemy.
If not ill go back to doing spirit Abrams with siphon.

Why do I never see any other Kelvins building range? Ice dome can win an entire teamfight if you build for it.

>>539726689
>gun
yes
>shadow weave
lol

>>539726787
because people only build for teamfight support on heroes like dynamo or paige without stopping to think about white frozone

Wait, you dont go all green when playing as a heavy? Heh, weenies...

>>539703679
I like The Urns personality! I don't want it to change ever :*(

>on a loss streak
>game puts me on a shitlow match
>absolutely fucking rolfstomp the shit out of the other team
is this what smurfing feels like?

i don't need to kill i just need to melt objectives

>>539727170
You'd think people would be more excited about a jar of souls.

>>539727549
I'm fine with doing the needful, but I hate getting teams that don't rotate to help or counter push the other side lane when 2-3 enemy players rush over and dogpile me. Instead they all that time of me trying to juke and run away from the gank, sucking each others dick in the enemy jungle and then dying with the bag they wasted all the time farming up for.

>>539727170
urn sucks
it'll always be a win harder tool because it's poorly balanced and buggy until it's replaced

>>539727781
I've used it even today to help my team comeback from a game that was otherwise lost

>>539728207
and in almost every other case it's a tool for winning harder

the build browser is more overwhelming than the item shop

Urn is so fucking ghoulish when everyone knows basic macro
You can force a favorable teamfight or put the other team at an even steeper soul deficit

>>539718546
find carry, rape.

Please post cute and lewd but not straight up porn of female deadlocks

Cultists niggas be spending the entire match just farming jungle to not ever get into a teamfight and then lose the game

I think Urn probably should go.
It's not a good idea to give the winning team even more shit.

I hate running at a guy for 10 seconds then 3 niggas zipline in full boost like they're firemen sliding down the pole.
They should add the bear pit or whatever Lash's arena is called to the map as a 1v1, one guy from each team go in, winner gets a buff;

>>539699963 (OP)
so it's fair to say we won't be getting a real update (read: not cosmetic halloween or christmas bullshit) until next year yea?

gundicta or birdnaildicta

>>539729864
Yeah getting all the camps and confining the enemy to a zone where they can't do shit is worthless.

weird that the devs specifically went out of their way to imply that paige has a hairy butthole and doesn't shave at all down there

Sorry chud but there is nothing broken with having a Vindicta ultimate on 1/5th of its cooldown and a crossmap 22% max HP execute that is calculated after the initial damage and after Tankburster's 6% max HP, on a 55-second cooldown with Superior Cooldown.

>>539730202
you have to play an old midget instead of a cool blue lady though

Vindicta is so shit now... 0 damage outside of her ult and her builds are counterproductive

>>539729267
Turn it into a very late game stalemate breaker.

I love having Mina in every game! She rapes us or she rapes them! Either way im not having fun!

>>539703992
>Deathy
>Has some weird superiority complex
he's just quebecois

>>539703992
Eido, Deathy and Saiah are great guys. I say bullshit in their chat and they either find it funny or don't care. Chill people with reasonable mindsets too.

Does Lash suck the higher you rank up? Or is he generally strong all around? I'm having WAY too much fun with this guy it's insane.

>>539730064
source?

>>539731495
He's always good but has to work harder as people get better at not getting fucked by Death Slam

>>539731509
it came to me in a dream, you could call it a vision even. I could see each individual ginger curly so vividly

Who do I play if I'm too stupid to do anything other than m1. Like I genuinely don't understand what the other buttons are for and I don't fully believe they have any impact except for movement.

>>539731782
if you're too stupid to press the button that does a billion damage on every spirit character, you're too stupid to play an m1 carry properly
anyways play ivy

>>539731782
Infernus

>press ult
>delete walker
>leave
man mina is pretty good

>>539731878
None of those buttons actually do a billion damage and then they go on cd and you're back to shooting. Why not just shoot better all the time.

>want a nice and fun lane phase of mo & krill
>swap lanes to escape a mina/holliday duo
>they both swap to my lane

despite it not being ranked, it still felt good to do this well

so using an item to cancel a heavy melee is a feature, not a bug?

>>539732654
if they wanted to fix it they would have done so a year ago, so it's a feature

>>539732447
you will give me bat stacks and you will like it :)

>>539732447
Throwing a barrel!

why does the base design favor the attackers more than the defenders? The fucking hidey holes and trenches covered by the roofs only benefit fucking attackers

>new tag is gone from the current batch
>still can't queue Vic +Paige + Haze
Uhh... Yoshi?

>>539729056
i can't

>>539733239
Because the game has to end.

why in the fuck does talon have 4 stamina base
lore wise it's stupid he's old
game wise it's stupid he's a poke character

>>539729524
>*until hl3
we'd be lucky if it comes out before gta6

>go max speed sinclair
>just running past everything
>steal dynamo ult
>teleport back
>run faster than infernus
>rabbit and ult 4
>win

yeah, I'm thinking 13% jogger mode is goat

Haze either sucks ass or somehow is a god amongst men.

This dude really feels like playing the fucking Boogeyman once you get on a roll.
Crazy how many retards just sit in lane with Drifter and go for dogshit ganks

>>539734908
>obvious werewolf
>n-no it's a vampire
What did Valve mean by this???

>>539734430
usain magicbolt is crazy good

Legit just remove Cultist from the game at this point, tired of these dumb retards just rushing this item on any character and spending the whole game just farming jungle and not doing anything else

>>539735192
Sabbat gangrel chads won, cammies seething

>>539736114
>spending the whole game just farming jungle
what does cultist have to do with this when you can just vore one creep every 4 minutes and that's it

>>539735192
Vampires can transform into wolves
A werewolf is literally just a shittier vampire

I'm confused by his build.
>doesn't upgrade Melee Lifesteal
>doesn't upgrade Cold Front
>doesn't buy Melee Charge to upgrade to Crushing Fists
is Lifestrike not worth the slot later?
I don't think he bought Kinetic Dash and Fleetfoot on DNS the other day either?
I'm an retard bros. somebody fill me in. I haven't seem him actually play Abrams. does he only melee after landing charge, and shooting the rest of the time?

>>539736965
opportunity cost
both melee life steal and cold front are great value for their souls, but their improvements less so when compared to other options

why do people buy burst fire on nigfernus

seems like a total waste, uncalled for slot.

>>539737104
I think the root is pretty good though. maybe I'm just playing in newb lobbies still, but when melee is half my damage idk seems good to boost it any way possible.
I guess I should learn how gun damage transfers to melee damage, if at all.

>>539737416
Two things infernus likes are more ammo and more fire rate. Burst fire gives you more fire rate and more ammo (by making it easier to slide).

>>539737416
>why do people buy the best item for shooting people on a hero that wants to shoot people?

>>539737416
Has fire in the name, therefore it goes on the fire character
Simple as

>>539737479
it's good but rarely 4800 soul good

>>539737601
kek'd but that movement at the beginning hurt to watch

>>539737416
infernus shoot enemy, shoot long time enemy catch fire. infernus buy fire rate, make infernus shoot faster, enemy catch fire faster
understand?

>>539716358
I'm not well versed with this general. This is satire right?

I love Doorman but he really feels like he needs some buffs. He's amazing in the laning phase but he's so akward in the mid to late game, especially if you're playing from behind

>>539736965
Pretty sure Eido just hasn't updated it publicly, but his current build on streams has the upgrades. He pretty much never buys the late-game items nor Kinetic Dash though. And Fleetfoot rarely.
As for buying Arctic Blast it depends. Spellbreaker is usually worth more with the current Gay Talon meta.

Do you really get an assist in this game for just being near a kill when it happens

>>539738023
only some of the responses, the anon that posted the webm is a retarded shitter.

>lose oracle lobby but overperform
>rank stays the same
>win ascendant lobby but underperform
>drop 3 ranks
amazing no notes

>>539738376
for trophy collector and soul splitting purposes yes

Every single game is some retard on Mina just going lane to lane ulting to delete every single objective it's unplayable

>>539723476
Nobody can DPS midboss across the map, the objectives only activate when someone or minions are near them anyways or else they're invulnerable

>>539738654
She hovers in the air so high i cant even shoot her while she kills the walker if i wanted to as a close range gun character. This game is so fucking bad you would have to be a retard to play this in this state

What's the optimal weapon accuracy to headshot accuracy ratio? I think I'm throwing away overall dps by trying to click on domes.

>Enemy stack uses all their pauses at the end of the game just to talk shit and call us all bad
Matchmaking is dogshit

>4 wins in a row tonight
>3 of them were close games
hell yeah

vyper is pretty obviously not good but god damn does she annoy the shit out of me

>>539738945
depends on your hero and how good your aim is in the first place, most passives proc faster off of headshots

>>539738654
>gank
>take midboss
>win
wowee

>>539738654
>>539738828
>buy slowing hex
>or silence wave
>or literally anything
>shit on her
>win
damn

fuck it
bebop ult building tonight

>>539738212
ok so I'm doing fine with my build then, because mine is basically his without kdash, ff, debuff, cooldown, eshift, berserker.

>>539739602
those jungle npcs won't know what hit 'em!!!

>>539736965
>names abrams build after himself
>bog standard abrams build with all punch items and tank items

wow such a gifted player

>>539739348
>>buy slowing hex
>>or silence wave
good luck hitting her when she is a hundred feet in the air

>>539740221
there's plenty of tranny's posting builds with essays on them, just go use one instead.

>>539740221
yeah he should be running spirit burn and sharpshooter instead

It's weird to me that basically none of the popular Mina builds have significant fire rate items in them, when her core mechanic is needing to shoot someone a certain number of times (to proc love bites). I understand those builds are the most successful - it's just very counter intuitive. Maybe in the early game I'd be better off buying Rapid Rounds than headshot booster, I suck at proccing it in lane (and Long Range doesn't impact it)

>>539741610
because after you proc it any extra fire rate is more or less wasted as her base gun is dogshit

>Mina has a parasol
>But she can't slowfall while in the air
Missed character flavor.

>nobody knows how to peel
GET THIS FUCKING SHIV OFF OF ME AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>539742161
stickin' 'em...

I just had the thought that this game has the most skill expression out of any video game ever made. Legit, potentially the highest skill ceiling mechanically and decision making in terms of macro.

>>539742471
Lol

>>539740608
>>539740759
he's a streamer not your friend

What are some very fun to play character?
My top 3 would be Holliday, Doorman and Bebop

>>539742618
The Lash.

>>539742561
loL

>>539742652
reminder:
>this is the real conversation between them

>>539737335
the doorman is cute! cute!!!!

>Guy on mic says he hates Mo and Krill
>He read it as "Mokrill"
Jesus

>teammates farming jungle while enemy pushes down walker
I love this episode!

>shitter youtubers insisting than victor is good with gun
>berserk is an obvious choice, cause he takes so much damage!
>brings your damage up a whole 6 per bullet
WOOOOW yeah totally worth a 3200 item+slot

>>539743085
Same with Vindicta. Vindicta's fucking fire rate goes up with spirit but nooooooo. Mongoloids like Metro will tell you to build her gun

>>539743070
>teammates are pushing one lane deep to the base while their other two lanes are fucked
i like this more

>>539743070
every single fucking time.... i'd take endless BROOLS over these braindead creatures just farming as we lose objective after objective

>>539738654
I've been doing this as Sinclair for months so it is funny to me that people are mad at Mina for doing it

>>539743070
>Teammates farming jungle while I'm getting chased by Drifter for 45+ seconds right next to them

>>539742586
thank you for this insight, I had no idea.

>>539703992
discovirtuoso
but his streaming hours are retarded because he is an aussie

>>539703992
i like ster

when are they going to let us choose which individual items to instant cast, like in dota?

>>539739348
she got debuff remover faggot

>>539743085

They are right, you are ass. Honestly if you dont run minimum 9k vit/gun/spirit on everyone you are doing it wrong

>>539743296
Sinclair actually has to build damage to do it. She can literally delet walkers for free and it's low cd

>billy doorman lane
>instantly lose because they're both still wildly overtuned
fun!

I am here to once again ask if you're watching any Deadlock content creators, /dlg/

Who? Vegas? AverageJonas? Zerggy? Eskay? Someone else?

>See Victor on the enemy team
>Rush inhibitor
>Now he can't do shit once I douse him in flames

>>539743654
Ha ha so ebin anon! Hey, hey guys! Check out this anon! He is so based and funny ha ha!

>>539743990
No. This game is completely unbalanced mess there's no point watching "good" players

>>539744173
https://youtu.be/HKXQ3B7MS3s?si=-8ocOEELb_HzOiNE

Its no joke, gotta learn soul efficiency

>>539742471
After 100 heroes and items, yes.

does mirage just lose every duel?

>>539744604
No, the redpill is everyone builds him wrong. He is a bruiser

i dont think ive seen mirage for weeks

>>539713828
t. Pisslow ape monkey subhuman.

>>539732504
I thought all matches are ranked? and you could choose to see the rank or not

valve should add a hero for smart people to play.

tornado mirage was exactly this and they killed it.

>>539745984
You work for me, book!

>guy trashtalks every time our team misplays
>he loses
This game is all about the occult man come on you gotta know about jinxes

>>539745984
I didnt even think tornado mirage was very good. Rushing echoshard is kind of an ass strategy and if you got stunned after the first tornado you just died

>>539743070
I NEED my 4th 6.4K item bro.

>>539746217
It was his main build when he first released

Laning as Drifter is so hard, his base weapon damage is shit, has short range, he's slow and not very tanky. It's so easy to just get bullied out of lane and he's also bad at actually killing the wave quickly

alright /dlg/ post some shit you're ashamed of

>>539746349
he's actually pretty good imo, being able to proc melee lifesteal without risk of parry makes him very nice. just ask your teammates to swap you to mid you get better angles for your shit there

>>539746301
Yea I know but I chalked it up to general player retardation. People wouldn't shoot back or use abilities even tho its a knockup not a stun and you could do both. Dynamo could just stomp mid air and counter it completely for example. People were also running no vit and burning their movement ability aggressively. It was a skill issue

>>539739760
I really like it. Kinda sucked that both games were high phantom lobbies and Bebop is one of my lowest winrate heroes.
Leap is my favorite item in the game. Hit the sky and ult team fights. Also get lightning scroll to cuck everyone and if my ult is down and I need to help I suicide bomb myself into the brool.

>hover over drifter
>giggle at his ridiculous edgelord grin

>>539744463
don't need a 15 minute video to say that gains are good up to 9.6k

>>539744463
Is there somewhere where this is explained without this guy's retarded camera zooms

>>539746795
Not that im aware of, if there was a less cringe source i would have shared it

did they make hazes ass bigger since release

>>539744686
Elaborate

viktor is actually so sick, he lets me utilize the fact that I start fights with my face because everyone else is so scared of their kda being worse

>>539716697
I hope you're joking if you think that Haze is cheating

been having good success with this gun abrams build but I'm unsure on the exact math of exactly how much damage vs firerate vs green items. any ideas? Its been a lot of fun just running at people with left click held down until they die and then if things get too gay fucking off from all the movespeed bonuses to clean up a lane while regening and come back a minute later

>>539747372
rip the image didn't upload i'm retarded

>>539747135

Just look at his kit

Tornado puts you in an aggressive position + evasion which stacks with armor, the scarab gives you max hp, the mark needs fights to drag on for 20+secs implying you need to sustain at least that long, his ulti drops him telegraphed in the middle of teamfights and he needs to be able to tank that first hit. If you struggle on mirage just build a little more tanky than you normally would

>>539747494
swap fort for veil walker or bullet lifesteal
buy vamp burst
hunter's aura much earlier
fleetfoot

the 40 minute impossible games are so much worse than it ever was in dota
and they will not put an ff in this game

>>539747494
i think the 1600 battle/enchanter's armor are so good on most characters that if you don't have at least one of them as an option the builds a meme.

i give up in drifter, if i win it's just because i play him normally
if i try to play him like le epic assassin, i get raped instead

>>539731782
legitimately there isnt a single hard m1 hero, you would have to stretch the definition to even find one that requires a braincell, like mina

>>539747372
In general fire rate is better due to the base dmg it gives and how its calculated, im pretty sure burst fire is the best in the game for example. Id reccomend adding Quicksilver reload

I also buy swift striker over rapid rounds

first retard to yap on mic like a whining bitch always ruins the vibe

>>539748132
>Anyone have a mic?
>
>ANYONE have a mic??
>
>No mics GG!
>Match goes on and others use mics to give callouts
>He proceeds to not use his mic but to bitch
I hate mental ill people

who should i play if i want to be like
>well i played well
when my team loses?

Hmm, Today I will play this game again to choose Mina and go lane to lane only ulting objectives and any players in my way

Is bombmaxxing Paradox even viable? I like playing her but i just have horrible accuracy with the carbine

>>539748132
I throw if they start shit talking our own team
Listening to them gradually get even mad is better than winning

>>539748563
Lash pocket mina

>decide to try and just play gun Ivy
>it's harder to hit people than gun McGinnis cause Ivy's gun has laser beam accuracy while McGinnis' gun has a bullet spread + Split Shot is super forgiving for a slight inaccuracy
>on one side, McGinnis gets picked off super fucking easily but has a better gun for just hosing people down with
>but Ivy is basically a full auto Pocket cause she can just statue certain abilities, gets Fleetfoot on her 2 and can just fucking fly away the moment 3-4 people show up cause you were ratting
They need to put more spread on Ivy's gun cause I'm not a laser beaming human aimbot on adderall.

>>539748665
no, it's shit, it's escalating damage which means the first hit is low, and even before the second one the enemies can get out of the aoe

>>539709696
>cultist up during all this

When can we get an actual vampire added to this game?
>Bro your mina?
Vampires are supposed to be white.

>>539749158
Just use the Remilia skin

>>539749158
i assume you have a response preloaded ready to deploy when someone mentions drifter so lets hear it

why is it that when I play victor, I optimally minmaxx farming and ganking, get overfed by lategame, and still lose 10/3 because of 2/11 mina/paige/doorman players
But when I play drifter, I go 3/8 and get fed a win. Does playing a tank make the autodraft try to shit your team up with supportsissy and goonerbait heroes?

>>539749230
Obviously a werewolf turned into a vampire last minute which is why all his animations sucked ass at release.
>>539749192
There is no remi skin (just a shitty recolour)

>>539749475
They're called Gangrel you stupid fucking zoomer

sinclair is fun as fuck and if you think he's bad you just don't understand him

RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

>every game decided by who gets Mina and if he has subsaharan IQ or not
really cool game

>viktor nerfed, only fun tank
>gaybrams and billy left untouched
lame.

>26k damage pocket in a nearly 40 minute game
>6k of it was from a 5 man ult he suicided for when everyone was dead right at the end
man

Tankshitters stink.

>>539749747
NTA but why are you namedropping a random wrestler?

>Watch eternus players buy kinetic dash
>They hardly ever activate it's effect
Really convinced these people are just dipshits

What do I do when one of my friends hasn't had a game where he goes above 1 kill and is the source of 2/3rds of the teams deaths? He legitimately has the slowest reaction time I've ever seen, can't aim at all, and has shown zero improvement.
>only follows builds, doesn't buy depending on the comp
>never clears lane, thinks he gets more money from neutrals
>only plays Drifter adding to the low kill count pain
>anytime the enemy is at Patron he runs in alone and says "It's impossible"
We give him advice, he follows it for 5 minutes, and forgets. I can't even actively watch him and tell him what to do because his reaction time is that slow.

An example scenario we had
>him and Billy are running down yellow
>Billy leaves and I still see him pushing
>Haze and Mina appear on the map and I tell him to leave
>this registers 5 seconds later, it's too late and he dies
>"I didn't realize Billy left"

Is this fixable?

>>539750365
but they're higher rated than you.

>entire game is falling down a spiral of continual gun nerfs, spirit buffs, melee/tank buffs and healing buffs
>game gets more stale and gay at the same rate
yeah the games basically done for. moba slop cant be divorced from the game design by its fundamentals so the good parts always need to be crowded out. Sad.

>>539750376
He's a low IQ donkey with possible ADHD/general memory issues on top of it. Not really fixable, but he is your friend so I cant assume you're much better. Stupid folk tend to congregate

>>539750376
Doesn't sound like he's actually invested in learning the game. Deadlock (and moba's in general) are extremely poor games to play with people that are only playing to play with their friends and otherwise don't care about the actual game itself.

Starting to get Imposter Syndrome bros. Out of my last 30 matches I've won 26 of them. When is Gayben sending his elo hit squad..

>>539750741
I wonder if he's being put into some super low ELO matches because he actually does play by himself occasionally and talks about how much harder matches are with us. I wish I could see what his solo matches are like, but timezone differences.

>>539751252
do you really not know about replays

>>539751252
just watch a replay?

>get a holy grail team that talks and doesnt just jungle like depressed retards
>have the best game in a week

>>539751414
>staying up past your bedtime

here's the game I just played

>>539751356
>>539751359
Holy fuck I'm retarded, I though they self deleted after a few hours. Didn't think Deadlock saved, seemingly, all match history.

>>539751834
Now I'm curious, how long are replays saved? Are they wiped every patch?

>>539744463
>>539746795
>>539746930
made this during a match during death timers.

>>539751875
At least for me and others online, seems to be a 30 days limit. Don't know if they've ever force wiped replays with an update.

>play with friends
>not allowed to do anything but play the hardest hard carries or we literally never win
i hate it here man

>>539752183
turbo mode soon (tm)

>>539752183
>having friends

>>539751946
I threw this together

It should a be requirement for players to put shoes on. It should be a pop-up as soon as you hit queue, "Do you have shoes on? y/n" I am only alchemist 4 but I am tired of getting the teammates in the match that all just so happen to only be wearing socks or barefoot. It disgusts me. I have to always carry my games and hope I rank up to the point that I can start to see the difference between slides and lace-ups.

>>539750376
My friends who die almost 10 times each game complain that i don't suicide along with them because i'm a "kda-obcessed player". Keep in mind they're Arcanist and i'm Archon. Sometimes it just can't be helped

>>539752183
>having friends who play deadlock

>>539748961
I have the opposite problem for some reason I can lock tf in with ivys gun and laser people but i try mcginnis and suddenly can't aim like i'm an ape

>>539753368
>I adjust to the laser beam spread of Ivy's gun and am landing my shots now
>it feels like her gun fucking sucks anyway-- worse than literally every other gun character including McGinnis-- it's like playing Haze but with no Fixate passive to make up for the shit DPS

I'm new. I like the game for the most part.
Boxes. Boxes are fucking gay. They should not be a thing.

mina niggers tongue my anus

>>539753612
this
the smallest layer of effort, 1 bullet or melee, feels like garbage i wonder what stopped them from making it just mario coins and remove the RNG

>>539751414
Skill issue

whats the paradox build to go for? i tried a gun one, a bomb one and a sort of hybrid one. none of them feel that good

>not very good so lose a lot
>the lower rank I get the better the players are
H-HUH?

Should would be a shame if a 2inch thick plank stopped Mina's 3 mid movement. That would be just awful. Just awful indeed.
Glad its never happened to me!

Guess the hero

>>539754893
calico

>>539751589
Shut up, MOM

>>539727751
i need to learn to just ignore the brool and counterpush, especially when i'm on a hero/build that can really tear shit up. if i'm on one side of the map and a brool starts in the other, by the time i get there it's probably gonna be over already. if my team bitches at me for not showing up to the brool they can bitch about it after i've melted the enemy walker

>>539754893
abrams

>>539754893
drifter

>>539703992
Xera listens to nigger rap constantly that's why I don't really watch him

>>539755118
This is the way.
I also used to feel bad about not going over to fight 24/7 but I find that me going over doesnt really change anything a lot of the time or worse I just end up dying
If my team is distracting the enemies by perma fighting I'll simply take all the objectives
Ive magically been winning more games since I started doing this, cant put my finger on why

>>539756237
i think where things really start getting dicey for me is when i go up to push a walker during a distant brool, but turns out there's someone there to contest me so it feels risky to go for the walker while it's being defended, even by just one person. you could argue that this eases up the brool from a 5v6 to an even 5v5 but i always feel bad whenever i have downtime, and while it feels a little bad to just be jungling instead of going for a splitpush it feels like the safer call than to risk losing the 1v1

>>539754998
>>539755423
wrong
>>539755679
correct! I reported him because his third item was boundless spririt. Fucking tard!!!

>>539754893
Vindicta

>be abrams
>lvl 2 charge
>charge into someone with debuf remover
>cant meele them because insta parry so either have to fake it or wait for them to hopefully auto parry post charge (or just run away).
Is duration extender something i can use to counter debuf reducer/remover, and do i need it at max level to counter debuf remover?

>>539756886
yes, its good with your charge and ult
t. retired abams player

>Calico raping one of my lanes
>she's 10k ahead of me when I meet her
>spams heavy melee and kills me despite 2 successful parries due to sheer stat difference
if you die to a heavy melee masher more than once you should have a rusty nail driven through your left testicle.

>enemy plays Drifter
>the lane fighting him feeds him and everyone is constantly roaming alone giving him free stacks and kills, and nobody builds any support items to keep him from getting easy kills
>any time I play Drifter
>enemy team makes it their life mission to never take remotely risky fights in lane and everyone is roaming with a second teammate + they usually have asscancer team comps full of things that stop me from doing anything in fights/skirmishes/1v1s-- either cause they're able to just escape, CC me, or both and all of them play like their coordinated 5-6 stack smurfs
>this happens 100% of the time
And now I have an actual headache. Time to close this stupid fucking game.

>>539756542
You're still getting value if you're jungling their shit while keeping the waves pushed up to their walker. You'll out farm them and chances are they'll do something stupid as they get impatient and you'll be right there to get the walker.
Ive been playing Drifter recently so ill just wait for the walker to do its stun then hit the guy defending it with the 2 and fuck him up.

>>539747324
I genuinely can't stand how useless he is before 30k
Playing a hero that feels like you have no real agency over the game early on is cock and ball torture to me

>>539756886
you can even if they have debuff remover, you have to hold the melee button during the charge so it goes off frame 1

>>539757660
It's worse having him as a lane partner because you know 100% he won't do a goddamn thing besides sit under guardian and last hit

>>539756542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBEaRgU9s58

>>539757038
Can they remove the stun with debuf remover post/during charge if they use it? Or does stun disable the item use?
>>539757767
I do hold down q while charging but maybe due to latency or whatnot they manage to parry it.

>>539752789
The fortnite monetization model, give Godzilla some sick Yeezys

>>539749158
Pic unrelated, since it’s a gook character
Touhou is for troons exclusively btw

muuh freakin vampireinos

>>539757908
im not exactly sure what the interaction is with the debuff remover rn but usually it cleanses anything for me. regardless if theyre popping remover for your charge stun you got more value out of the cd trade cycle

>>539709696
>Won lane
>Still mad
Unfathomable behavior.

Why does the game think I'm bad at Paige?

>>539754893
>Geist

It's hard to use movement tech in the heat of the moment when fucking everything is happening all at once but I think I'm getting better at it

>>539758565
I've fucked up so many edgeboosts it's not even funny

>>539749158
>Vampires are supposed to be white.
because they're bloodsucking leeches?

>>539758706
t. infernus

Put techies in the game
The REAL one, not that neutered fraud

>>539758276
you must play 1500 games before they consider your playing level on a character.
I am frying my dopamine playing Wraith and winning 85% with 75 games because they want me to smurf the employed still in seeker.

Is metal skin worth it?

Does gun Billy do damage or do you have to use melee to kill shit?

>>539709696
>2 hours into an 11 hour vod
>he played 9 more hours after this
LMAO

>win 4 games in a row
>lose 4 games in a row
>repeat a few times
>go down like 5 ranks
what is this piece of shit fucking system man. At least I had a great game to end the night where my team actually coordinated and closed our the win in just 24 minutes

>>539758816
You need to melee for ammo, Billy shreds people but he has to refill ammo very often

>>539759069
Yeah I get that you need to melee for buffs but if primarily meleeing people to hurt them rather than primarily shooting people to hurt them then I'm out. The gun scaling numbers don't look great.

>play gray talon one time
>entire enemy team has heals, two people build rescue beam, viscous and ivy
the game does this on purpose

>Have team fight ults
>Have numerical advantage
>Have networth lead
>Call that I am going in with ult to initiate
>Pick up my dynamo and throw him into 4 people
>Our mina randomly starts frantically saying we should leave and we have nothing
>We wind up dying
I hate people who give shit call outs. Like they're silent all match and then say some stupid shit and half the team just listens no matter what.

firing goo irl

>>539759289
>Wowie zowie people built items to sustain against my 1000 damage tree logs
>WTF SPELLBREAKER IS CHEATING

I am once again petitionning for the live skinning of infernus players

I just drank some soda and was about to burp and had a hiccup at the same time and it felt like my throat was going to tear from the pressure buildup and I almost died bros

Who should I play as for my first game?

>>539759212
His gun works well enough, the spread is irrelevant when you're in their face and you barely have to aim

>>539759521
someone got shit on by gray talon because i didn't mention that in the slightest

>>539759743
Warden is straightforward enough

>>539711871
The map should be topologically closed along its length (from base top base) so that no lane is the middle lane.

>start popping off in a game, 5 kills 4 assists 0 deaths
>get a fucking power outage because some retard crashed his car into a utility pole

>>539760042
this has been tried with side teleports and Pro Players™ didn't like it

>>539760042
what did he mean by this

>>539760042
the map should be wildly asymmetrical so the idea of a 'middle' lane is ridiculous

>>539759743
the game should give a green thumb in character select for which ones are easy, but seven and haze are braindead easy. do the tutorials and fuck around with the bots a bit before diving into real player matches

>>539760357
Nobody like that original 4 lane thing. It was impossible to roam even with the veils. The smaller map is so good for roamers, perfect time for drifter. Side teleporters were kind of sweet but the map is so small now it would be really bad to add it. Way too much map control for the winning team if they add them back